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[CHEERING AND APPLAUSE]

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>> John: WELCOME, WELCOME,

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WELCOME TO LAST WEEK TONIGHT!

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I'M JOHN OLIVER, THANKS FOR

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JOINING US!

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IT'S BEEN A BUSY WEEK.

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ZELENSKY AND NETANYAHU MET WITH

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TRUMP, WE SAW THE INCREDIBLE

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HEADLINE "KASH PATEL LOSES

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LAWSUIT AGAINST MAN WHO CALLED

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HIM "GOOGLY EYED CHUD"-- WHICH

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I THINK MEANS THAT'S HIS LEGAL

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NAME NOW.

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AND THIS HAPPENED:

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>> THE CHASE FOR THE SQUIRREL IS

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ON.

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AND THE SQUIRREL IS IN THE

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CORNER, AND THE SQUIRREL IS

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STILL ELUDING AN ENTIRE HOARD OF

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GROUNDS CREW MEMBERS.

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AND THE SQUIRREL IS FREE ONCE

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AGAIN.

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HEMMED IN?

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NO I WON'T BE HEMMED IN, I HAVE

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FREEDOM ON MY MIND.

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TRYING TO GO IN BETWEEN THE LEGS

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AND EVENTUALLY...

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HE GETS AWAY AGAIN!

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AND HOPS THROUGH THE TOWEL!

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AND HOPS THROUGH ANOTHER TOWEL!

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>> John: OH, K, I THINK FROM

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NOW ON EVERY BASEBALL GAME

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SHOULD JUST BE A BUNCH OF ADULTS

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TRYING TO TRAP A SQUIRREL WITH A

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TOWEL.

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AND CREDIT TO THAT ANNOUNCER FOR

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NARRATING THAT LIKE IT WAS "THE

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ODYSSEY".

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IT TAKES VISION TO SEE A

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SQUIRREL EVADING A GROUNDS CREW

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AND TO SHOUT, "I HAVE FREEDOM ON

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MY MIND!"

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SADLY, THE SQUIRREL WAS

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EVENTUALLY CAUGHT, BUT BY THE

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TOP OF THE EIGHTH INNING, THE

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TIGERS MASCOT WAS HOLDING UP A

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SIGN SAYING "FREE THE SQUIRREL."

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WHICH IS EXCELLENT-- AND A SIGN

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WE MIGHT ACTUALLY HAVE TO BORROW

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SOON IF BUC-EE'S COMES FOR OUR

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MR. NUTTERBUTTER MERCH.

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STILL AVAILABLE BY THE WAY,

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UNTIL IT LEGALLY ISN'T!

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MEANWHILE, AMERICA'S CYCLOSPORA

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OUTBREAK CONTINUED TO SPREAD.

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>> THE CDC SAYS FOUR MORE

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STATES: ILLINOIS, KANSAS,

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OKLAHOMA, AND PENNSYLVANIA ARE

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LINKED TO THAT SPIKE IN

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CYCLOSPORIASIS CASES ACROSS A

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TOTAL OF NINE STATES CAUSED BY

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SHREDDED ICEBERG LETTUCE SOURCED

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BY TAYLOR FARMS.

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NEARLY 2,000 PEOPLE IN THOSE

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STATES GOT SICK AFTER EATING THE

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LETTUCE AT TACO BELL WHICH HAS

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REMOVED ALL AFFECTED PRODUCTS

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BUT THAT IS JUST THE FRACTION OF

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THE RECORD BREAKING NEARLY

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12,000 POTENTIAL CASES OF THIS

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PARASITE NATIONWIDE AND THAT

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NUMBER IS EXPECTED TO GO UP.

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SO, IF YOU'RE EATING AT A

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RESTAURANT, IT IS RECOMMENDED

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THAT YOU ASK THE SOURCE OF THEIR

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LETTUCE, OR YOU EAT COOKED

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VEGETABLES FOR NOW.

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>> JOHN: YEAH.

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THE BEST ADVICE THEY HAVE FOR

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YOU RIGHT NOW IS TO BASICALLY

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PLAY LETTUCE DETECTIVE AT EVERY

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RESTAURANT.

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AND WHAT'RE YOU REALLY EXPECTING

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THEM TO SAY?

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"AW, SHIT, WE ACTUALLY GET IT

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FROM SAM'S PARASITE BARN.

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WE WERE HOPING NO ONE WOULD

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ASK."

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BECAUSE LET'S BE HONEST, YOUR

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SERVER DOESN'T KNOW WHERE THE

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RESTAURANT SOURCES THEIR

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LETTUCE.

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THEIR MAIN CONCERN IS THAT THE

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BARTENDER THEY FUCKED LAST WEEK

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STOPPED WORKING MONDAYS, AND

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THEIR MANAGER WON'T RELEASE NEXT

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MONTH'S SCHEDULE UNLESS EVERYONE

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GOES TO HER POETRY NIGHT.

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SO WHY NOT GIVE THEM ALL A BREAK

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AND JUST ORDER SOUP?

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NOW, IF YOU HAVEN'T GOT

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CYCLOSPORIASIS, THE SYMPTOMS ARE

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UNPLEASANT TO SAY THE LEAST:

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>> IT GIVES YOU, AND I'M SORRY

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TO HAVE TO SAY THIS,

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DEBILITATING, EXPLOSIVE DIARRHEA

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THAT CAN LAST FOR WEEKS.

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>> I WASN'T FEELING WELL.

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THE PAIN IN MY STOMACH WAS LIKE

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UNBEARABLE.

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>> I IMMEDIATELY HAD TO SPRINT

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TO THE BATHROOM.

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IT WAS HORRIBLE.

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>> THE PEOPLE SAYING, "OH, I

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WANT TO GET THE PARASITE, I WANT

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TO LOSE WEIGHT."

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NO YOU DON'T.

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>> JOHN: YEAH, OF COURSE YOU

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DON'T.

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NOBODY SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THE

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PEOPLE WHO POOPED SO WEIRD THAT

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THEY MADE IT ONTO THE NEWS AND

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THINK: "SHOULD'VE BEEN ME."

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AN EPIDEMIOLOGIST EVEN DESCRIBED

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THE SYMPTOMS AS, "IT'S

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UNCONTROLLABLE AND IT'S VERY

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IF YOU'VE SEEN PICTURES FROM

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CHOLERA WARDS, WHERE THE

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PATIENTS ARE ON GURNEYS, AND THE

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GURNEY HAS A HOLE WHERE YOUR

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BUTT GOES, AND THERE'S A BUCKET

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UNDERNEATH THE HOLE, IT'S VERY

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SIMILAR."

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AND NO OFFENSE, BUT I DON'T

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THINK THAT EPIDEMIOLOGIST SHOULD

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BE ALLOWED TO GIVE STATEMENTS

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ANYMORE.

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WE WERE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING

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LIKE, "IT'LL CAUSE DIGESTIVE

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ISSUES," NOT "TACO BELL MADE

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AMERICANS SHIT SO HARD AND WET

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THEY NEED ASSLESS BEDS LIKE A

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19TH CENTURY POOP WARD."

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IT'S NO WONDER TACO BELL VISITS

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BRIEFLY DROPPED BY NEARLY A

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THIRD, AND THE COMPANY'S GONE

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OUT OF ITS WAY TO TRY AND

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REASSURE PEOPLE.

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>> WE ACTUALLY HAVE A STATEMENT

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FROM TACO BELL THAT THEY PUT OUT

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NOT LONG AGO SAYING, "WE WANT

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YOU TO HEAR IT FROM US.

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WE TAKE YOUR HEALTH AND SAFETY

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SERIOUSLY AND HAVE REMOVED ALL

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AFFECTED TAYLOR FARMS LETTUCE

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SO GO AHEAD AND ENJOY YOUR TACO

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BELL TODAY.

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YOU ALWAYS GOT US.

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WE ALWAYS GOT YOU.

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SEE YOU IN THE DRIVE-THRU.

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>> JOHN: NO YOU FUCKING WON'T!

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AND THERE'S TRULY NO MORE

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EFFICIENT WAY TO SAY THERE'S A

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NATIONWIDE DIARRHEA EPIDEMIC

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THAN THE PHRASE "WE HAVE A

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STATEMENT FROM TACO BELL."

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BECAUSE IT'S NEVER GOING TO BE

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GOOD NEWS.

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IT'S NEVER GOING TO BE "WE HAVE

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A STATEMENT FROM TACO BELL: THEY

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FOUND AMELIA EARHART.

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SHE'S 129 AND HOUSING A

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CRUNCHWRAP.

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SHE JUST LOST TRACK OF TIME!"

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BUT IT'S NOT JUST A NOTES APP

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NON-APOLOGY-- TO WIN CUSTOMERS

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BACK, TACO BELL'S EVEN BEEN

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OFFERING $1 MENU ITEM DEALS FOR

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ITEMS THAT DON'T CONTAIN ANY

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LETTUCE.

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LIKE THIS ENCHIRITO-- WHICH

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LOOKS LIKE A MURDERED BURRITO

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DYING IN A POOL OF ITS OWN BLOOD

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-- AND THIS MEXICAN PIZZA--

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WHICH LOOKS LIKE A PLATE OF

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NACHOS THAT STUDIED ABROAD IN

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ROME FOR SIX MONTHS AND NOW

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CALLS ITSELF PIZZA.

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AND LOOK-- I'LL GIVE TACO BELL

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CREDIT FOR ONE THING.

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THEY PROACTIVELY ADDRESSED THIS

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PROBLEM.

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AND TO BE FAIR: CYCLOSPORA IS

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HARD TO TRACK.

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AND AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT

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BEFORE, THE FDA'S BEEN

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UNDERFUNDED FOR DECADES NOW.

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BUT THIS SECOND TRUMP

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ADMINISTRATION HAS SOMEHOW

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MANAGED TO MAKE A BAD SITUATION

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SIGNIFICANTLY WORSE.

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>> IN PRESIDENT TRUMP'S SECOND

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TERM, THE FDA HAS LOST ABOUT 20%

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OF ITS STAFF.

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THE CDC IS DOWN 25%.

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THE CDC USED TO HAVE 11

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SCIENTISTS TRACKING FOOD

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PARASITES.

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NOW IT'S THREE.

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>> JOHN: WAIT, ONLY "THREE"

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PEOPLE!?

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THAT'S CLEARLY NOT ENOUGH!

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IT REALLY FEELS LIKE WE

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SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO FIT THE

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CDC'S ENTIRE PARASITE TRACKING

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TEAM COMFORTABLY ONTO A PORCH

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GLIDER.

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LOOK, AS WE'VE SAID BEFORE, A

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GOOD PUBLIC HEALTH SYSTEM IS ONE

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YOU DON'T NOTICE.

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A BAD ONE MAKES HEADLINES.

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AND BOY ARE WE SEEING THAT NOW.

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AND MEANWHILE, SECRETARY OF

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HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES ROBERT

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KENNEDY-- OR AS HIS FRIENDS

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CALL HIM...

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HAS TRIED TO REASSURE PEOPLE.

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BUT JUST THE DAY AFTER HE

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CLAIMED THE CYCLOSPORA OUTBREAK

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WAS "UNDER CONTROL", THE FDA

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ANNOUNCED IT WAS INVESTIGATING A

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NEW OUTBREAK, WITH CASES ONLY

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GROWING SINCE.

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AND LOOK-- CLEARLY, NONE OF

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THIS IS IDEAL.

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AND IT SAYS SOMETHING PRETTY

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GRIM ABOUT AMERICA THAT WHEN IT

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COMES TO ACTING SWIFTLY TO

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PREVENT A PUBLIC HEALTH THREAT,

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THE CURRENT GOVERNMENT JUST LOST

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THE MORAL HIGH GROUND TO FUCKING

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TACO BELL.

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BUT SINCE THEY SEEM TO BE IN THE

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MOOD TO MAKE AMENDS TO CUSTOMERS

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RIGHT NOW, WE FIGURED THE LEAST

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WE COULD DO IS HELP THEM OUT.

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>> HEY AMERICA, WE AT TACO BELL

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WANT YOU TO KNOW WE CARE ABOUT

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YOUR HEALTH AND SAFETY.

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THAT'S RIGHT, THE INVENTORS OF

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FIERY DORITOS LOCOS TACOS CARE

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ABOUT YOUR PHYSICAL WELL-BEING.

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SO WE ARE HERE TO SAY, WE ARE

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WE ARE GOING TO LIVE CONTRITO,

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WHICH IS HOW A CHIHUAHUA WOULD

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SAY SORRY IF HE HADN'T DIED

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RUSHING THE COCKPIT IN 911.

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WE KNOW THAT BECAUSE OF OUR

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FOOD, MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN

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SHITTING YOUR BRAINS OUT IN A

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WAY THAT WE NEVER INTENDED.

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BECAUSE TACO BELL HAS ALWAYS

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PRIDED ITSELF ON TWO THINGS.

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HAVING THE WETTEST FOOD IN

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AMERICA, AND ONLY GIVING YOU THE

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REGULAR, NORMAL LEVEL OF

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DIARRHEA.

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THAT'S WHY WE TEMPORARILY

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REMOVED LETTUCE FROM OUR FOOD.

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SO WHILE YOU ARE POWERING

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THROUGH OUR MEXICAN FOOD

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ADJACENT MENU, INCLUDING OUR--

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JESUS CHRIST-- SAUSAGE

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CRUNCHWRAP SUPREME, YOU CAN FEEL

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CONFIDENT YOU WERE AVOIDING ONE

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NARROW DEFINITION OF

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GASTROINTESTINAL DISEASE.

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AGAIN, WE ARE NOT PROMISING YOU

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WON'T GET REGULAR DIARRHEA.

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I MEAN, YOU'VE SEEN OUR FOOD,

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RIGHT?

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THERE'S SOMETHING ON THE MENU

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CALLED DIABLO DUSTED CHICKEN

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NUGGETS, OKAY?

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WE ARE JUST SAYING.

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WE WILL TRY NOT TO GIVE YOU THE

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KIND OF DIARRHEA THAT WILL PUT

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YOU ON THE NEWS.

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AND IF THAT'S NOT ENOUGH, THEN

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FRANKLY THAT'S ON YOU, BIG GUY!

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FOR EATING SOMETHING CALLED THE

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BEEFY POTATO LOADED THRILLER.

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AND YOU EXPECTED NOT TO SHIT

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YOUR PANTS?

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TACO BELL.

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WHERE ELSE ARE YOU GOING TO GO

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WHEN YOU'RE DRUNK?

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FUCKING WENDY'S?

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GET OUT OF HERE!

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>> JOHN: MOVING ON.

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OUR MAIN STORY TONIGHT CONCERNS

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SURVEILLANCE.

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Y'KNOW, THE THING THIS PERVERT

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DOES ALL YEAR LONG.

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HE SEES YOU WHEN YOU'RE

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SLEEPING, HE KNOWS WHEN YOU'RE

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JACKIN' IT TO THE GILDED AGE.

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SPECIFICALLY, WE'RE GOING TO

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LOOK AT POLICE SURVEILLANCE

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TECHNOLOGY.

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IT TAKES MANY FORMS, FROM

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CAMERAS, TO FACIAL RECOGNITION,

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TO EVEN THIS:

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>> THE ROBOT ITSELF WAS GIVEN

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THE NAME HP ROBOCOP, FOR

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HUNTINGTON PARK.

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IT'S, YOU KNOW, RATHER A

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FUTURISTIC PIECE OF EQUIPMENT

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THAT ESSENTIALLY IS A

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SOPHISTICATED CURRENT-TIME

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HIGH-DEFINITION CAMERA SYSTEM.

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>> PLEASE HELP KEEP THE PARK

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CLEAN.

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>> SO, INITIALLY, THERE WAS SOME

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NEGATIVE SORT OF REACTION TO THE

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ROBOT.

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THE ROBOT WAS VANDALIZED AND IT

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WAS TIPPED OVER.

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>> JOHN: YEAH, OF COURSE IT WAS!

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CAUSE LOOK AT IT!

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IT'S A GLORIFIED ROOMBA THAT

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NARCS.

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AND DID YOU HEAR ITS VOICE?

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I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS POSSIBLE

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TO CREATE A DWEEBIER ROBOT THAN

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THIS VIRGIN, BUT ENTER STAGE

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LEFT-- THE POLICE EGG.

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IT'S GOT THE BODY OF A WEEBLE

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AND THE VOICE OF A HALL MONITOR.

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AND IT'S OKAY FOR ME TO SAY THAT

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BECAUSE... SAME.

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THE POLICE LOVE USING

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SURVEILLANCE TECH, AND IN RECENT

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YEARS, THE PREVALENCE OF LOCAL

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MASS SURVEILLANCE SYSTEMS HAS

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EXPLODED, THANKS TO CHEAPER

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TECHNOLOGY AND INCREASED FUNDING

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FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

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AND THIS ALL TENDS TO GET

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PRESENTED AS A BOON TO PUBLIC

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SAFETY.

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LOCAL NEWS LOVES TO COVER

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CITIES' "REAL TIME CRIME

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CENTERS".

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HERE'S A STORY ABOUT ONE IN LAS

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VEGAS...

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HERE'S ONE IN DETROIT...

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AND HERE'S ONE IN COOPER CITY,

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FLORIDA.

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AND IN THAT STORY, THE TOWN'S

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THEN-MAYOR OFFERED THIS UPBEAT

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ASSESSMENT.

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>> EVERYONE IS BEING WATCHED.

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AND IF YOU'RE DOING NOTHING

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WRONG, DOESN'T MATTER WHAT

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YOU'RE DOING.

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BUT WHEN YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING

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WRONG, WE'RE GONNA FIND OUT,

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WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE

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WHEREWITH-ALL TO COME AND GET

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YOU.

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WE'VE GOT ESSENTIALLY BIG

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BROTHER ON STEROIDS.

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>> JOHN: OKAY, I'M NOT SURE

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THAT'S QUITE THE SELL HE THINKS

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IT IS.

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FOR ONE THING, "BIG BROTHER" IS

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PRETTY FAMOUSLY NOT THE HERO OF

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1984.

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BUT THE TRUTH IS, A LOT OF THE

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TECHNOLOGIES THAT FEED INTO

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THOSE CENTERS HAVE SIGNIFICANT

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PROBLEMS-- FROM CIVIL LIBERTIES

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ISSUES, TO THE WAY THAT MORE

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RECENTLY, THEY'VE BEEN

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WEAPONIZED TO TARGET IMMIGRANTS.

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AND IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE NOW AT A

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POINT WHERE THERE NEEDS TO BE

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MORE AWARENESS OF WHAT'S

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ACTUALLY OUT THERE.

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SO GIVEN THAT, TONIGHT, WE

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THOUGHT WE'D DO SOMETHING A BIT

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DIFFERENT, AND TRY TO GIVE YOU A

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FIELD GUIDE FOR SOME OF THE MOST

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COMMON SURVEILLANCE TOOLS.

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SPECIFICALLY: CAMERAS,

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MICROPHONES, LICENSE PLATE

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READERS, "CELL SITE SIMULATORS",

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AND THE PRACTICE OF "PREDICTIVE

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POLICING" THAT COMBINES ALL OF

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THEM TO MAKE THAT "BIG BROTHER"

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ON STEROIDS LINE TRUE IN ALL THE

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WORST WAYS.

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AND LET'S START WITH CAMERAS.

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YOU'VE UNDOUBTEDLY SEEN POLICE

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SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS ALL OVER

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THE PLACE, AND THE CASE FOR THEM

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IS PRETTY SIMPLE.

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HERE'S A POLICE OFFICER IN NEW

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ORLEANS-- WHERE COPS HAVE

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ACCESS TO OVER 2,000 CAMERAS--

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PITCHING THE UPSIDE:

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>> WE HAD A SHOOTING AT THIS

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VERY INTERSECTION AT 4:30 IN THE

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MORNING.

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THE GENTLEMAN THAT GOT SHOT

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CLAIMED TO BE THE VICTIM.

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WE WATCHED THE VIDEO

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SURVEILLANCE, WENT BACK AND

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SHOWED THAT ACTUALLY HE WAS

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ACTUALLY SHOOTING AT THE YOUNG

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MAN FIRST.

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SO IT KIND OF, YOU KNOW, HELPED

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US EXONERATE THE GUY WE WERE

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LOOKING FOR.

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>> AND IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE

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CAMERA, DO YOU THINK YOU WOULD

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HAVE KNOWN THE TRUTH?

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>> NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT.

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>> JOHN: REALLY?

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IF THAT'S TRUE, THAT SOUNDS LESS

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AN ARGUMENT "FOR" CAMERAS, THAN

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IT IS AN ARGUMENT "AGAINST" YOU.

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BECAUSE YOU BASICALLY JUST

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ADMITTED, "WE COULDN'T DO DICK

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ALL UNTIL WE GOT THEM VIDEO

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DOO-DADS."

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BUT THE THING IS, POLICE DON'T

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JUST USE CAMERAS TO FIND

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EVIDENCE OF SOMETHING THAT

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HAPPENED.

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THEY CAN ALSO USE THEM TO FISH

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FOR CRIMES THAT THEY THINK

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MIGHT.

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ESSENTIALLY USING THEM AS A

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DIGITAL FORM OF STOP-AND-FRISK.

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STAYING IN NEW ORLEANS, TAKE THE

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CASE OF MICHAEL CELESTINE, WHO

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POLICE THERE ACCOSTED, AFTER

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THEY WATCHED HIM WALKING AROUND

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IN A PUFFY JACKET.

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YOU CAN SEE THEM ZOOM THE CAMERA

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IN ON HIM, AND TRACK HIS

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MOVEMENTS FOR 15 MINUTES.

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AND THEIR JUSTIFICATION FOR

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DOING THAT IS THEY CLAIM HE HAD

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A SUSPICIOUS BULGE IN HIS JACKET

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-- WHICH IS ALREADY A WEIRD

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THING TO BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR

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IN A STATE WHICH ALLOWS FOR

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CONCEALED CARRY, BUT AN EVEN

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WEIRDER THING TO DO WHEN THE

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WHOLE IDEA BEHIND PUFFY JACKETS

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IS THAT THEY BULGE.

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IT'S QUITE LITERALLY, THE PUFF

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PART.

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PUFFY JACKETS ARE ESSENTIALLY

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FASHION BUBBLE WRAP.

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BABES, READ A VOGUE.

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THE POLICE ULTIMATELY CHASED,

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AND THEN ARRESTED AND TASED

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CELESTINE, BEFORE FINDING A

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WEAPON IN HIS PANTS LEG, ONLY

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FOR THE DA TO ULTIMATELY DROP

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ALL CHARGES.

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BUT BECAUSE HE HAPPENED TO BE

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OUT ON PAROLE, HE WASN'T ALLOWED

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TO MAKE BAIL, AND HAD TO SIT IN

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JAIL FOR A YEAR.

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AND IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT

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POLICE AREN'T JUST LIMITED TO

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USING THEIR OWN SURVEILLANCE

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CAMERAS.

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INCREASINGLY, THEY'RE ABLE TO

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USE THOSE OWNED BY PRIVATE

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BUSINESSES OR HOMEOWNERS.

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THERE ARE AN ESTIMATED 85

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MILLION IN THIS COUNTRY, AND

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POLICE NOW ROUTINELY REQUEST

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ACCESS TO THEM.

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IN FACT, HERE'S AN AD FROM ONE

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COMPANY THAT FACILITATES THAT,

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FUSUS, EXPLAINING TO BUSINESSES

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HOW IT WORKS.

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>> SETTING UP FUSUS IS FAST,

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REQUIRES MINIMAL HARDWARE, AND

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HAS NO ACTIVATION FEES.

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IN AN INVESTIGATION, POLICE CAN

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AUTOMATICALLY REQUEST FOOTAGE

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FROM ALL NEARBY BUSINESSES AT

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THE CLICK OF A BUTTON, AND

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CAMERA OWNERS CAN SECURELY SHARE

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RECORDED AS WELL AS LIVE VIDEO

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FEEDS TO AID IN THE

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INVESTIGATION.

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>> JOHN: YEAH, IT'S THAT EASY.

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WITH A CLICK OF A BUTTON, POLICE

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CAN GET ACCESS TO HOURS OF

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PRIVATE SECURITY FOOTAGE.

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AND LOOK, TECHNOLOGY'S MADE A

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LOT OF THINGS EASIER TO DO WITH

516
00:13:27,807 --> 00:13:29,308
THE CLICK OF A BUTTON, LIKE

517
00:13:29,309 --> 00:13:30,309
ORDER MEDICINE, PAY BILLS, OR

518
00:13:30,310 --> 00:13:32,811
BUY THIS INEXPLICABLE WALL DECAL

519
00:13:32,812 --> 00:13:34,813
OF A SENIOR WOMAN WITH ASTHMA,

520
00:13:34,814 --> 00:13:35,814
OR ONE OF THAT SAME WOMAN

521
00:13:35,815 --> 00:13:37,816
WIELDING A FRYING PAN AS A

522
00:13:37,817 --> 00:13:38,417
WEAPON, OR A DECAL OF DR. PHIL

523
00:13:38,418 --> 00:13:40,319
AS AN M&M.

524
00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:41,820
ADD ALL THREE TO YOUR CART, AND

525
00:13:41,821 --> 00:13:42,454
NOW YOU'VE GOT A HOME WORTHY OF

526
00:13:42,455 --> 00:13:47,826
ARCHITECTURAL DIGEST.

527
00:13:47,827 --> 00:13:48,327
TECHNOLOGY IS AMAZING!

528
00:13:48,328 --> 00:13:49,895
BUT IT DOES FEEL LIKE TURNING ON

529
00:13:49,896 --> 00:13:56,903
THE PANOPTICON SHOULD BE A BIT

530
00:13:59,339 --> 00:13:59,838
HARDER THAN THAT.

531
00:13:59,839 --> 00:14:00,806
AND IT DOESN'T STOP THERE.

532
00:14:00,807 --> 00:14:01,306
FUSUS HAS GONE SO FAR AS

533
00:14:01,307 --> 00:14:01,873
DEVELOPING TECHNOLOGY THAT

534
00:14:01,874 --> 00:14:02,474
ALLOWS AMAZON'S RING DOORBELLS

535
00:14:02,475 --> 00:14:03,008
TO LIVE STREAM STRAIGHT TO

536
00:14:03,009 --> 00:14:03,475
POLICE CRIME CENTERS.

537
00:14:03,476 --> 00:14:04,076
WHICH IS A PRETTY WILD USE OF

538
00:14:04,077 --> 00:14:04,643
SOMETHING I MAINLY ASSOCIATE

539
00:14:04,644 --> 00:14:05,177
WITH BRINGING US VIDEOS OF

540
00:14:05,178 --> 00:14:05,744
ANIMALS WHO JUST WANNA COME

541
00:14:05,745 --> 00:14:05,977
INSIDE.

542
00:14:05,978 --> 00:14:07,346
JUST FOR A MINUTE.

543
00:14:07,347 --> 00:14:07,946
IT'S COLD OUT HERE AND YOU'VE

544
00:14:07,947 --> 00:14:10,849
GOT TREATS IN THERE.

545
00:14:10,850 --> 00:14:12,351
AND WHILE SOME BUSINESSES OR

546
00:14:12,352 --> 00:14:13,418
HOMEOWNERS MIGHT WANT TO DO

547
00:14:13,419 --> 00:14:14,353
THAT, IN OTHER PLACES, THEY'RE

548
00:14:14,354 --> 00:14:16,355
NOT GIVEN MUCH OF A CHOICE.

549
00:14:16,356 --> 00:14:18,323
RIALTO, CALIFORNIA HAS MADE

550
00:14:18,324 --> 00:14:20,359
STARTING A BUSINESS CONTINGENT

551
00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,361
ON SIGNING UP WITH FUSUS, WITH

552
00:14:22,362 --> 00:14:22,928
PERMITS CONTAINING LANGUAGE

553
00:14:22,929 --> 00:14:24,363
LIKE, "THE SECURITY CAMERAS

554
00:14:24,364 --> 00:14:26,732
SHALL BE ACCESSIBLE TO THE

555
00:14:26,733 --> 00:14:27,299
RIALTO POLICE DEPARTMENT...

556
00:14:27,300 --> 00:14:30,869
THROUGH FUSUS."

557
00:14:30,870 --> 00:14:31,870
AND COME ON-- OPENING A SMALL

558
00:14:31,871 --> 00:14:33,872
BUSINESS IS ALREADY HARD ENOUGH.

559
00:14:33,873 --> 00:14:34,873
THERE'S CASH FLOW ISSUES, HIRING

560
00:14:34,874 --> 00:14:36,375
AND FIRING AND OF COURSE,

561
00:14:36,376 --> 00:14:37,476
DEALING WITH YELP REVIEWS THAT

562
00:14:37,477 --> 00:14:38,377
SAY "WOMAN AT THE FRONT DESK HAD

563
00:14:38,378 --> 00:14:38,877
A WEIRD EYE.

564
00:14:38,878 --> 00:14:40,879
SCARED MY SON!

565
00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,882
HE IS NINE!!!!"

566
00:14:43,883 --> 00:14:44,883
BUT NOW, YOU ALSO HAVE TO DECIDE

567
00:14:44,884 --> 00:14:47,386
IF OPENING YOUR NAIL SALON IS

568
00:14:47,387 --> 00:14:49,888
WORTH BEING A NARC ON PASSERSBY.

569
00:14:49,889 --> 00:14:50,522
BUT IT'S NOT JUST CAMERAS BEING

570
00:14:50,523 --> 00:14:51,890
DOTTED ALL OVER THE PLACE.

571
00:14:51,891 --> 00:14:53,358
IT'S ALSO MICROPHONES, LIKE THE

572
00:14:53,359 --> 00:14:54,559
ONES OPERATED BY A COMPANY

573
00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,395
CALLED SHOTSPOTTER.

574
00:14:56,396 --> 00:14:57,763
IT'S USED IN OVER 200

575
00:14:57,764 --> 00:14:58,897
JURISDICTIONS, AND THE WAY

576
00:14:58,898 --> 00:15:00,132
SHOTSPOTTER WORKS IS, IT

577
00:15:00,133 --> 00:15:01,900
BASICALLY SETS UP MICROPHONES

578
00:15:01,901 --> 00:15:03,001
ALL OVER A CITY, WHICH ALERT

579
00:15:03,002 --> 00:15:03,902
POLICE IF THEY SENSE A LOUD

580
00:15:03,903 --> 00:15:05,904
NOISE THAT COULD BE A GUNSHOT.

581
00:15:05,905 --> 00:15:07,406
AND SOME PLACES TREAT IT AS

582
00:15:07,407 --> 00:15:10,409
HIGHLY RELIABLE.

583
00:15:10,410 --> 00:15:11,910
IN HOUSTON, THEIR DEPARTMENT

584
00:15:11,911 --> 00:15:13,412
DOESN'T DISPATCH OFFICERS FOR

585
00:15:13,413 --> 00:15:14,913
ALL 911 CALLS ABOUT GUNFIRE, BUT

586
00:15:14,914 --> 00:15:16,915
THEY TREAT EVERY SHOTSPOTTER

587
00:15:16,916 --> 00:15:18,417
ALERT AS A TOP-PRIORITY REPORT.

588
00:15:18,418 --> 00:15:19,918
ONE OFFICER EVEN SAID "NO MATTER

589
00:15:19,919 --> 00:15:22,421
WHAT OTHER CALL YOU'RE ON, IF A

590
00:15:22,422 --> 00:15:23,221
SHOTSPOTTER ALERT DROPS, YOU

591
00:15:23,222 --> 00:15:24,423
GO."

592
00:15:24,424 --> 00:15:27,426
UNFORTUNATELY, THE TECHNOLOGY

593
00:15:27,427 --> 00:15:28,927
SEEMS NOWHERE NEAR AS GOOD AS

594
00:15:28,928 --> 00:15:29,895
YOU'D WANT IT TO BE FOR THAT

595
00:15:29,896 --> 00:15:31,430
KIND OF RESPONSE.

596
00:15:31,431 --> 00:15:33,432
AN AP INVESTIGATION FOUND THE

597
00:15:33,433 --> 00:15:34,933
SYSTEMS CAN MISS LIVE GUNFIRE

598
00:15:34,934 --> 00:15:35,934
RIGHT UNDER ITS MICROPHONES, OR

599
00:15:35,935 --> 00:15:37,936
MISCLASSIFY THE SOUNDS OF

600
00:15:37,937 --> 00:15:40,439
FIREWORKS AS GUNSHOTS, WHILE

601
00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:41,339
OTHER REPORTING'S FOUND

602
00:15:41,340 --> 00:15:41,940
SHOTSPOTTER BEING ACTIVATED BY

603
00:15:41,941 --> 00:15:42,941
CARS BACKFIRING, OR EVEN PEOPLE

604
00:15:42,942 --> 00:15:44,443
USING A NAIL GUN.

605
00:15:44,444 --> 00:15:47,446
WHICH IS NOT GOOD.

606
00:15:47,447 --> 00:15:49,047
YOU DON'T WANT HYPED-UP COPS

607
00:15:49,048 --> 00:15:49,948
SHOWING UP, WEAPONS DRAWN,

608
00:15:49,949 --> 00:15:56,955
BECAUSE DAD FINALLY GOT AROUND

609
00:15:56,956 --> 00:15:57,522
TO PUTTING UP THE CHRISTMAS

610
00:15:57,523 --> 00:15:57,756
LIGHTS.

611
00:15:57,757 --> 00:15:58,457
AND THERE'VE BEEN CASES OF

612
00:15:58,458 --> 00:15:59,458
PEOPLE SEARCHED AND ARRESTED FOR

613
00:15:59,459 --> 00:16:00,025
THINGS LIKE DRUG POSSESSION,

614
00:16:00,026 --> 00:16:00,659
SIMPLY BECAUSE SHOTSPOTTER SENT

615
00:16:00,660 --> 00:16:01,960
POLICE TO THEIR LOCATION.

616
00:16:01,961 --> 00:16:03,962
SO ITS INACCURACY CAN CAUSE REAL

617
00:16:03,963 --> 00:16:04,963
PROBLEMS-- AND THE EVIDENCE IT

618
00:16:04,964 --> 00:16:06,465
ACTUALLY PREVENTS CRIME IS

619
00:16:06,466 --> 00:16:07,466
SCANT.

620
00:16:07,467 --> 00:16:09,468
IN FACT, WHEN A LOCAL NEWS TEAM

621
00:16:09,469 --> 00:16:12,471
IN MINNEAPOLIS LOOKED INTO

622
00:16:12,472 --> 00:16:13,038
NEARLY TWO YEARS WORTH OF

623
00:16:13,039 --> 00:16:13,972
RESULTS FROM ITS SHOTSPOTTER

624
00:16:13,973 --> 00:16:15,974
SYSTEM, THE RESULTS WERE DIRE.

625
00:16:15,975 --> 00:16:17,476
>> THE DATA REVEALS DURING THAT

626
00:16:17,477 --> 00:16:20,479
TIME, MPD RESPONDED TO

627
00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:21,480
SHOTSPOTTER ACTIVATIONS ROUGHLY

628
00:16:21,481 --> 00:16:24,483
8500 TIMES.

629
00:16:24,484 --> 00:16:28,487
THE DATA ALSO SHOWS ABOUT 80% OF

630
00:16:28,488 --> 00:16:35,495
THE TIME OFFICERS DOCUMENTED NO

631
00:16:36,496 --> 00:16:37,128
EVIDENCE OF A GUN RELATED CRIME,

632
00:16:37,129 --> 00:16:37,729
AND ONLY 32 ACTIVATIONS TOTAL

633
00:16:37,730 --> 00:16:38,129
LED TO AN ARREST.

634
00:16:38,130 --> 00:16:39,498
THAT'S LESS THAN 1% OF THE TIME.

635
00:16:39,499 --> 00:16:40,999
>> THAT PERCENTAGE THERE, THAT'S

636
00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,000
INSANE, THAT'S CRAZY.

637
00:16:42,001 --> 00:16:43,502
>> JOHN: HE'S RIGHT!

638
00:16:43,503 --> 00:16:45,504
IT IS CRAZY!

639
00:16:45,505 --> 00:16:46,505
AND WHILE THIS ISN'T THE POINT,

640
00:16:46,506 --> 00:16:48,006
THAT MAN SHOULD BE ASKED FOR

641
00:16:48,007 --> 00:16:48,707
COMMENT ON LITERALLY EVERY NEWS

642
00:16:48,708 --> 00:16:50,509
STORY:

643
00:16:50,510 --> 00:16:51,510
SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE MIKE

644
00:16:51,511 --> 00:16:53,011
JOHNSON AND HIS SON MONITOR EACH

645
00:16:53,012 --> 00:16:54,346
OTHER'S PORN INTAKE?

646
00:16:54,347 --> 00:16:55,013
>> THAT'S CRAZY.

647
00:16:55,014 --> 00:16:58,016
>> JOHN: IT IS!

648
00:16:58,017 --> 00:16:59,084
REBA MCENTIRE PARTNERED WITH 40

649
00:16:59,085 --> 00:17:00,018
FARMS TO MAKE CORN MAZES OUT OF

650
00:17:00,019 --> 00:17:01,620
HER FACE?

651
00:17:01,621 --> 00:17:02,521
>> THAT'S CRAZY.

652
00:17:02,522 --> 00:17:05,023
>> JOHN: I AGREE!

653
00:17:05,024 --> 00:17:06,124
HALF A MILLION ITALIANS SEEK

654
00:17:06,125 --> 00:17:08,527
EXORCISMS EVERY YEAR?

655
00:17:08,528 --> 00:17:11,530
>> THAT PERCENTAGE THERE, THAT'S

656
00:17:11,531 --> 00:17:13,031
INSANE, THAT'S CRAZY.

657
00:17:13,032 --> 00:17:13,565
>> JOHN: YEAH, MY THOUGHTS

658
00:17:13,566 --> 00:17:15,534
EXACTLY.

659
00:17:15,535 --> 00:17:17,536
THE POINT IS, IT SURE SEEMS LIKE

660
00:17:17,537 --> 00:17:20,038
A TECHNOLOGY THIS FLAWED

661
00:17:20,039 --> 00:17:21,039
SHOULDN'T BE DISPATCHING POLICE

662
00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:22,541
ALL OVER A CITY.

663
00:17:22,542 --> 00:17:24,042
AND THERE'S A SIMILAR ISSUE WITH

664
00:17:24,043 --> 00:17:26,044
OUR NEXT TECHNOLOGY, AUTOMATED

665
00:17:26,045 --> 00:17:26,578
LICENSE PLATE READERS, OR

666
00:17:26,579 --> 00:17:28,547
A-L-P-R'S.

667
00:17:28,548 --> 00:17:29,614
YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN THEM BY THE

668
00:17:29,615 --> 00:17:31,049
SIDE OF THE ROAD, AND COPS WILL

669
00:17:31,050 --> 00:17:32,551
CLAIM THEY'RE A WAY TO FIND

670
00:17:32,552 --> 00:17:34,052
STOLEN CARS, OR THOSE ENGAGED IN

671
00:17:34,053 --> 00:17:35,887
SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY.

672
00:17:35,888 --> 00:17:37,656
THE MOST POPULAR ARE MADE BY A

673
00:17:37,657 --> 00:17:38,323
COMPANY CALLED FLOCK, AND HERE'S

674
00:17:38,324 --> 00:17:40,058
HOW THEY WORK:

675
00:17:40,059 --> 00:17:42,060
>> FLOCK LICENSE PLATE READERS

676
00:17:42,061 --> 00:17:45,063
DON'T JUST SCAN TAGS LOOKING FOR

677
00:17:45,064 --> 00:17:45,697
STOLEN CARS OR VEHICLES ON A HOT

678
00:17:45,698 --> 00:17:47,065
LIST.

679
00:17:47,066 --> 00:17:50,068
THE CAMERAS TAKE A PHOTO OF

680
00:17:50,069 --> 00:17:50,669
EVERY CAR THAT PASSES, STAMPED

681
00:17:50,670 --> 00:17:51,202
WITH THE PRECISE TIME AND

682
00:17:51,203 --> 00:17:53,572
LOCATION.

683
00:17:53,573 --> 00:17:54,573
THE MORE CAMERAS YOU PASS, THE

684
00:17:54,574 --> 00:17:55,140
CLEARER THE PICTURE OF YOUR

685
00:17:55,141 --> 00:17:57,576
MOVEMENTS.

686
00:17:57,577 --> 00:18:00,078
ALL OF THAT DATA IS SAVED IN A

687
00:18:00,079 --> 00:18:01,079
DATABASE FOR 30 DAYS, SHARED

688
00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,081
WITH CONNECTED POLICE

689
00:18:03,082 --> 00:18:05,584
DEPARTMENTS, ALLOWING THE

690
00:18:05,585 --> 00:18:07,586
GOVERNMENT TO GO BACK IN TIME TO

691
00:18:07,587 --> 00:18:10,088
SEE WHERE YOUR CAR WAS AND WHEN.

692
00:18:10,089 --> 00:18:11,089
NO WARRANT REQUIRED, WHETHER

693
00:18:11,090 --> 00:18:12,591
YOU'RE SUSPECTED OF A CRIME OR

694
00:18:12,592 --> 00:18:14,593
NOT.

695
00:18:14,594 --> 00:18:16,595
>> JOHN: OKAY, FIRST, THE OSCAR

696
00:18:16,596 --> 00:18:17,696
FOR CINEMATOGRAPHY GOES TO THAT

697
00:18:17,697 --> 00:18:19,598
NEWS PIECE.

698
00:18:19,599 --> 00:18:21,099
DRONE SHOTS, DRIVE-AND-TALKS,

699
00:18:21,100 --> 00:18:23,602
AND A LICENSE PLATE CLOSE-UP

700
00:18:23,603 --> 00:18:24,235
THAT'D MAKE TARANTINO BUST BOTH

701
00:18:24,236 --> 00:18:26,104
NUTS?

702
00:18:26,105 --> 00:18:26,705
CALL THE ACADEMY, THE RACE IS

703
00:18:26,706 --> 00:18:29,608
OFFICIALLY OVER.

704
00:18:29,609 --> 00:18:31,610
THE POINT IS, ALPR'S WILL SEND

705
00:18:31,611 --> 00:18:33,111
UP A LOT OF ALERTS-- BUT,

706
00:18:33,112 --> 00:18:33,712
UNFORTUNATELY, MANY ARE FALSE

707
00:18:33,713 --> 00:18:35,614
ALARMS.

708
00:18:35,615 --> 00:18:42,622
A RANDOMIZED TRIAL IN VALLEJO,

709
00:18:45,124 --> 00:18:45,824
CALIFORNIA FOUND THAT 37% OF ALL

710
00:18:45,825 --> 00:18:46,625
ALPR "HITS" FROM FIXED READERS,

711
00:18:46,626 --> 00:18:52,130
LIKE THOSE ATTACHED TO A STREET

712
00:18:52,131 --> 00:18:53,131
LIGHT, AND 35% FROM MOBILE

713
00:18:53,132 --> 00:18:54,232
ALPRS, LIKE THOSE ON COP CARS,

714
00:18:54,233 --> 00:18:54,866
WERE MISREADS.

715
00:18:54,867 --> 00:18:55,467
WHICH IS AN ASTONISHINGLY HIGH

716
00:18:55,468 --> 00:18:55,767
ERROR RATE.

717
00:18:55,768 --> 00:18:56,201
AND THAT'S HAD REAL

718
00:18:56,202 --> 00:18:56,635
CONSEQUENCES.

719
00:18:56,636 --> 00:18:57,202
DRIVERS HAVE BEEN REPEATEDLY

720
00:18:57,203 --> 00:18:57,769
PULLED OVER BECAUSE A READER

721
00:18:57,770 --> 00:18:58,637
READ THE NUMBERS ON THEIR PLATES

722
00:18:58,638 --> 00:18:59,337
WRONG AND TAGGED THE VEHICLES AS

723
00:18:59,338 --> 00:19:01,139
STOLEN.

724
00:19:01,140 --> 00:19:04,142
AND SOME OF THOSE INCIDENTS HAVE

725
00:19:04,143 --> 00:19:05,143
BEEN HIDEOUS, LIKE THIS ONE,

726
00:19:05,144 --> 00:19:06,144
WHERE THE POLICE WRONGLY ASSUMED

727
00:19:06,145 --> 00:19:07,646
A CAR FULL OF CHILDREN WAS

728
00:19:07,647 --> 00:19:09,147
STOLEN-- AND I'LL WARN YOU,

729
00:19:09,148 --> 00:19:10,649
THIS IS HARD TO WATCH.

730
00:19:10,650 --> 00:19:13,652
>> THERE'S KIDS.

731
00:19:13,653 --> 00:19:15,654
>> IT'S THESE CRIES AND SCREAMS,

732
00:19:15,655 --> 00:19:16,221
BRITTNEY GILLIAM CAN'T BRING

733
00:19:16,222 --> 00:19:18,857
HERSELF TO RELIVE.

734
00:19:18,858 --> 00:19:20,659
>> THAT'S TERRIFYING.

735
00:19:20,660 --> 00:19:21,159
AS A PARENT, THAT'S

736
00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:22,160
HEARTBREAKING.

737
00:19:22,161 --> 00:19:24,162
>> GILLIAM SAYS SHE WAS

738
00:19:24,163 --> 00:19:25,163
SEARCHING FOR AN OPEN NAIL SALON

739
00:19:25,164 --> 00:19:28,667
WHILE SITTING IN A PARKING LOT

740
00:19:28,668 --> 00:19:29,200
ON BUCKLET AND EYELESS IN

741
00:19:29,201 --> 00:19:29,668
AURORA.

742
00:19:29,669 --> 00:19:30,669
>> AND SHE'S SCREAMING, LIKE,

743
00:19:30,670 --> 00:19:32,170
"HEY, HEY AUNTIE, THE POLICE."

744
00:19:32,171 --> 00:19:32,804
>> WHEN OFFICERS PULLED UP FROM

745
00:19:32,805 --> 00:19:33,672
BEHIND.

746
00:19:33,673 --> 00:19:34,673
>> THEY GOT THEIR GUNS ON US,

747
00:19:34,674 --> 00:19:36,675
THEY GOT THEIR GUNS ON US.

748
00:19:36,676 --> 00:19:37,676
>> GILLIAM WAS IN THE SUV WITH

749
00:19:37,677 --> 00:19:40,178
HER SIX-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER,

750
00:19:40,179 --> 00:19:41,179
12-YEAR-OLD SISTER AND TWO

751
00:19:41,180 --> 00:19:42,681
NIECES, ONE 14, THE OTHER 17

752
00:19:42,682 --> 00:19:44,683
YEARS OLD.

753
00:19:44,684 --> 00:19:46,685
POLICE SAY A LICENSE PLATE

754
00:19:46,686 --> 00:19:47,686
READER ALERTED THEM THE SUV WAS

755
00:19:47,687 --> 00:19:49,688
STOLEN.

756
00:19:49,689 --> 00:19:50,321
>> JOHN: YEAH, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY

757
00:19:50,322 --> 00:19:52,190
TERRIBLE.

758
00:19:52,191 --> 00:19:53,191
AND YOU ALREADY KNOW THE POLICE

759
00:19:53,192 --> 00:19:55,527
FUCKED UP THERE, BUT I PROMISE,

760
00:19:55,528 --> 00:19:56,127
YOU'RE NOT READY FOR JUST HOW

761
00:19:56,128 --> 00:19:58,763
DUMB THAT FUCKUP WAS.

762
00:19:58,764 --> 00:20:00,198
>> IT TURNS OUT THE STOLEN

763
00:20:00,199 --> 00:20:01,700
VEHICLE WAS ACTUALLY A

764
00:20:01,701 --> 00:20:04,202
MOTORCYCLE, NOT GILLIAM'S SUV.

765
00:20:04,203 --> 00:20:06,204
BOTH VEHICLES SHARE THE PLATE

766
00:20:06,205 --> 00:20:06,738
NUMBER, BUT THEY WERE FROM

767
00:20:06,739 --> 00:20:08,206
DIFFERENT STATES.

768
00:20:08,207 --> 00:20:09,708
>> JOHN: YEAH, IT WAS A

769
00:20:09,709 --> 00:20:11,710
MOTORCYCLE FROM ANOTHER STATE.

770
00:20:11,711 --> 00:20:13,211
AND THE ONLY THING THAT COULD BE

771
00:20:13,212 --> 00:20:14,979
FURTHER FROM AN SUV IN COLORADO

772
00:20:14,980 --> 00:20:16,214
WOULD BE IF THE LICENSE ACTUALLY

773
00:20:16,215 --> 00:20:17,449
BELONGED TO A HORSE IN

774
00:20:17,450 --> 00:20:19,384
TENNESSEE.

775
00:20:19,385 --> 00:20:20,719
AND LOOK-- SO FAR, I'VE BEEN

776
00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,220
FOCUSING ON WHEN POLICE

777
00:20:22,221 --> 00:20:23,221
TECHNOLOGY GETS STUFF ACTIVELY

778
00:20:23,222 --> 00:20:24,222
WRONG, BUT IT'S WORTH

779
00:20:24,223 --> 00:20:27,225
REMEMBERING-- EVEN WHEN THESE

780
00:20:27,226 --> 00:20:28,226
SYSTEMS WORK PERFECTLY, THEY CAN

781
00:20:28,227 --> 00:20:29,728
STILL BE WILDLY INVASIVE.

782
00:20:29,729 --> 00:20:31,229
CAMERAS AND LICENSE PLATE

783
00:20:31,230 --> 00:20:33,231
READERS CAN TRACK YOUR MOVEMENTS

784
00:20:33,232 --> 00:20:35,233
WHEREVER YOU GO-- WHICH MEANS

785
00:20:35,234 --> 00:20:35,900
THEY COULD FIND OUT IF YOU, SAY,

786
00:20:35,901 --> 00:20:37,736
ATTENDED A PROTEST, OR VISITED

787
00:20:37,737 --> 00:20:39,237
AN ABORTION CLINIC.

788
00:20:39,238 --> 00:20:40,739
WHAT'S MORE, SOME COMPANIES,

789
00:20:40,740 --> 00:20:42,240
LIKE FLOCK, MAKE A FEATURE OUT

790
00:20:42,241 --> 00:20:43,742
OF THE FACT THEIR DATABASES CAN

791
00:20:43,743 --> 00:20:45,744
BE ACCESSED BY NOT JUST YOUR

792
00:20:45,745 --> 00:20:46,745
LOCAL POLICE, BUT ALSO BY THOSE

793
00:20:46,746 --> 00:20:47,746
FROM OTHER TOWNS.

794
00:20:47,747 --> 00:20:48,747
AND ON TOP OF ALL THAT, THE

795
00:20:48,748 --> 00:20:50,248
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT-- MEANING

796
00:20:50,249 --> 00:20:51,750
AGENCIES LIKE ICE AND BORDER

797
00:20:51,751 --> 00:20:53,251
PATROL-- HAS BEEN KNOWN TO USE

798
00:20:53,252 --> 00:20:55,253
THIS NETWORK.

799
00:20:55,254 --> 00:20:56,254
FLOCK USED TO MAKE ARRANGEMENTS

800
00:20:56,255 --> 00:20:57,756
WITH THEM TO DO SO DIRECTLY, BUT

801
00:20:57,757 --> 00:21:00,258
HAS SINCE DISCONTINUED THAT.

802
00:21:00,259 --> 00:21:01,259
THOUGH THE GOVERNMENT'S STILL

803
00:21:01,260 --> 00:21:02,761
ABLE TO USE THE NETWORK THROUGH

804
00:21:02,762 --> 00:21:04,763
LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT.

805
00:21:04,764 --> 00:21:05,764
AND WHILE ALL THAT'S ALREADY

806
00:21:05,765 --> 00:21:07,766
COMFORTABLY BAD ENOUGH, OTHER

807
00:21:07,767 --> 00:21:08,366
TECHNOLOGIES CAN BE EVEN MORE

808
00:21:08,367 --> 00:21:09,768
INVASIVE.

809
00:21:09,769 --> 00:21:11,803
TAKE CELL-SITE SIMULATORS.

810
00:21:11,804 --> 00:21:13,271
THEY'RE DEVICES WITH NAMES LIKE

811
00:21:13,272 --> 00:21:14,773
"STINGRAY", AND THEY ALLOW COPS

812
00:21:14,774 --> 00:21:15,774
TO BASICALLY SNOOP ON ANY PHONE

813
00:21:15,775 --> 00:21:18,276
THAT'S NEAR THEM.

814
00:21:18,277 --> 00:21:20,278
>> HERE'S HOW IT WORKS.

815
00:21:20,279 --> 00:21:21,780
CELL PHONES ARE ALWAYS TRYING TO

816
00:21:21,781 --> 00:21:23,782
CONNECT TO NEARBY CELL TOWERS.

817
00:21:23,783 --> 00:21:25,784
A STINGRAY ACTS LIKE A CELL

818
00:21:25,785 --> 00:21:27,285
TOWER DECOY IN WHAT'S CALLED "A

819
00:21:27,286 --> 00:21:30,288
MAN IN THE MIDDLE" ATTACK.

820
00:21:30,289 --> 00:21:31,289
IT TRICKS CELL PHONES INTO

821
00:21:31,290 --> 00:21:32,290
THINKING IT'S THE NEAREST CELL

822
00:21:32,291 --> 00:21:34,292
TOWER, PHONES CONNECT TO THE

823
00:21:34,293 --> 00:21:35,160
STINGRAY, AND POLICE CAN ACCESS

824
00:21:35,161 --> 00:21:41,800
A RANGE OF PERSONAL INFORMATION.

825
00:21:41,801 --> 00:21:42,433
BUT THEY DON'T JUST GET INTEL ON

826
00:21:42,434 --> 00:21:42,801
ONE PHONE.

827
00:21:42,802 --> 00:21:43,434
EVERY PHONE NEARBY IS FORCED TO

828
00:21:43,435 --> 00:21:45,303
DIVERT TO THE STINGRAY.

829
00:21:45,304 --> 00:21:47,305
CALLS ARE PASSED ON TO A REAL

830
00:21:47,306 --> 00:21:48,706
CELL TOWER, DATA SCOOPED UP

831
00:21:48,707 --> 00:21:50,542
STAYS WITH POLICE.

832
00:21:50,543 --> 00:21:53,812
>> JOHN: YEAH, NOT GREAT!

833
00:21:53,813 --> 00:21:54,512
I DON'T WANT A DECOY CELL TOWER

834
00:21:54,513 --> 00:21:55,079
GETTING ANY OF MY CELL PHONE

835
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:56,815
DATA.

836
00:21:56,816 --> 00:21:57,448
BECAUSE WHAT YOU DO ON YOUR CELL

837
00:21:57,449 --> 00:21:58,316
PHONE IS YOUR MOST PERSONAL OF

838
00:21:58,317 --> 00:21:58,817
BUSINESS.

839
00:21:58,818 --> 00:22:01,319
YOUR LAPTOP?

840
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:02,821
THAT'S FOR BUYING PLANE TICKETS,

841
00:22:02,822 --> 00:22:04,823
OR MAKING AN EXCEL SPREADSHEET,

842
00:22:04,824 --> 00:22:05,423
OR BROWSING CIVIL WAR MAPS AT

843
00:22:05,424 --> 00:22:07,725
THE LIBRARY OF CONGRESS.

844
00:22:07,726 --> 00:22:08,326
YOU KNOW, BUSINESS SHIT.

845
00:22:08,327 --> 00:22:10,328
BUT YOUR CELL PHONE?

846
00:22:10,329 --> 00:22:10,995
THAT'S FOR YOUR MOST DEPRAVED

847
00:22:10,996 --> 00:22:12,831
BEHAVIORS.

848
00:22:12,832 --> 00:22:13,932
THAT'S FOR SEXTING, OR A PHOTO

849
00:22:13,933 --> 00:22:14,833
OF A RASH YOU WANT TO SHOW YOUR

850
00:22:14,834 --> 00:22:16,334
DOCTOR.

851
00:22:16,335 --> 00:22:18,336
IT'S FOR A PHONE NOTE THAT JUST

852
00:22:18,337 --> 00:22:19,838
READS "YOUNG GADDAFI HANDSOME?"

853
00:22:19,839 --> 00:22:21,339
AND SOME SAVED PHOTOS THAT

854
00:22:21,340 --> 00:22:23,341
EMPHATICALLY ANSWER THE

855
00:22:23,342 --> 00:22:29,347
QUESTION, AGAIN AND AGAIN.

856
00:22:29,348 --> 00:22:31,349
GOOD LORD THOSE THINGS NEED TO

857
00:22:31,350 --> 00:22:34,853
GO TO THE GRAVE!

858
00:22:34,854 --> 00:22:35,486
CELL-SITE SIMULATORS ARE A MASS

859
00:22:35,487 --> 00:22:35,887
SURVEILLANCE TOOL.

860
00:22:35,888 --> 00:22:36,487
AND POLICE CAN GET A LOT FROM

861
00:22:36,488 --> 00:22:37,088
THEM, FROM WHO YOU'RE CALLING,

862
00:22:37,089 --> 00:22:38,256
TO WHAT YOU'RE TEXTING.

863
00:22:38,257 --> 00:22:38,890
AND THE THING IS, WE DON'T KNOW

864
00:22:38,891 --> 00:22:39,591
HOW OFTEN THEY DO THAT, BECAUSE

865
00:22:39,592 --> 00:22:40,959
GENERALLY, LAW ENFORCEMENT KEEPS

866
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,293
A TIGHT LID ON ITS USAGE OF

867
00:22:42,294 --> 00:22:44,362
THESE DEVICES.

868
00:22:44,363 --> 00:22:45,864
IN FACT, FOR DECADES, THE FBI'S

869
00:22:45,865 --> 00:22:47,866
IMPOSED SECRECY OBLIGATIONS ON

870
00:22:47,867 --> 00:22:49,367
STATE AND LOCAL AGENCIES, MAKING

871
00:22:49,368 --> 00:22:51,236
THEM SIGN NDAS TO PREVENT

872
00:22:51,237 --> 00:22:52,871
DISCLOSURE OF ANY INFORMATION

873
00:22:52,872 --> 00:22:55,006
ABOUT THE DEVICES TO THE PUBLIC.

874
00:22:55,007 --> 00:22:56,374
AND SOME POLICE DEPARTMENTS HAVE

875
00:22:56,375 --> 00:22:57,375
FOUND PRETTY CREATIVE WAYS TO

876
00:22:57,376 --> 00:22:58,042
HIDE THEIR USAGE OF THESE

877
00:22:58,043 --> 00:23:00,378
SIMULATORS.

878
00:23:00,379 --> 00:23:01,379
ONE IN FLORIDA ADVISED OFFICERS,

879
00:23:01,380 --> 00:23:02,380
WHEN USING DATA OBTAINED WITH

880
00:23:02,381 --> 00:23:04,883
THEM, TO JUST DESCRIBE IT AS

881
00:23:04,884 --> 00:23:06,718
"INFORMATION FROM A CONFIDENTIAL

882
00:23:06,719 --> 00:23:07,352
SOURCE REGARDING THE LOCATION OF

883
00:23:07,353 --> 00:23:10,889
THE SUSPECT."

884
00:23:10,890 --> 00:23:11,890
AND IF YOU'RE THINKING, "WELL,

885
00:23:11,891 --> 00:23:12,891
MAYBE COPS NEED DEVICES LIKE

886
00:23:12,892 --> 00:23:14,759
THESE FOR DIRE SITUATIONS.

887
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:15,393
WHAT IF THERE'S A KIDNAPPING OR

888
00:23:15,394 --> 00:23:17,896
A BOMB THREAT?"

889
00:23:17,897 --> 00:23:18,897
YOU SHOULD KNOW-- THAT'S IN NO

890
00:23:18,898 --> 00:23:20,398
WAY ALL THEY GET USED FOR.

891
00:23:20,399 --> 00:23:21,900
BECAUSE ONCE COPS GET A NEW TOY,

892
00:23:21,901 --> 00:23:22,433
THEY TEND TO FIND LOTS OF

893
00:23:22,434 --> 00:23:24,903
EXCUSES TO USE IT.

894
00:23:24,904 --> 00:23:25,904
IN AT LEAST ONE INSTANCE,

895
00:23:25,905 --> 00:23:27,906
STINGRAY TECH WAS USED TO TRY

896
00:23:27,907 --> 00:23:29,908
AND TRACK DOWN SOMEONE WHO STOLE

897
00:23:29,909 --> 00:23:30,909
15 CHICKEN WINGS AND THREE SUB

898
00:23:30,910 --> 00:23:32,410
SANDWICHES.

899
00:23:32,411 --> 00:23:34,913
AND LOOK: IF YOU DO THAT AND GET

900
00:23:34,914 --> 00:23:36,414
AWAY SO EFFECTIVELY POLICE HAVE

901
00:23:36,415 --> 00:23:37,916
TO USE A HIGH TECH CELL-SITE

902
00:23:37,917 --> 00:23:39,417
SIMULATOR TO FIND YOU, I THINK

903
00:23:39,418 --> 00:23:44,923
YOU'VE TECHNICALLY EARNED THOSE

904
00:23:44,924 --> 00:23:46,057
FUCKING WINGS!

905
00:23:46,058 --> 00:23:48,426
[CHEERING AND APPLAUSE]

906
00:23:48,427 --> 00:23:49,060
AND I KNOW I'VE ALREADY THROWN A

907
00:23:49,061 --> 00:23:49,694
LOT OF PROGRAMS AT YOU TONIGHT,

908
00:23:49,695 --> 00:23:50,295
BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER

909
00:23:50,296 --> 00:23:50,929
THAT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY WORK

910
00:23:50,930 --> 00:23:51,429
IN ISOLATION.

911
00:23:51,430 --> 00:23:52,430
THEY CAN FEED INTO "REAL TIME

912
00:23:52,431 --> 00:23:53,431
CRIME CENTERS" LIKE THE ONES YOU

913
00:23:53,432 --> 00:23:55,633
SAW EARLIER.

914
00:23:55,634 --> 00:23:56,434
AND SOME DEPARTMENTS CAN THEN

915
00:23:56,435 --> 00:23:58,436
USE ALL THE DATA FED INTO THEM

916
00:23:58,437 --> 00:23:59,938
TO ENGAGE IN OUR FINAL, AND

917
00:23:59,939 --> 00:24:02,440
MAYBE DUMBEST, USE OF THIS TECH.

918
00:24:02,441 --> 00:24:03,908
IT'S CALLED "PREDICTIVE

919
00:24:03,909 --> 00:24:05,443
POLICING"-- BASICALLY, USING

920
00:24:05,444 --> 00:24:06,511
ALL THAT DATA TO FIGURE OUT

921
00:24:06,512 --> 00:24:08,446
WHICH AREAS OR INDIVIDUALS MIGHT

922
00:24:08,447 --> 00:24:10,448
BE LIKELY SOURCES OF CRIME.

923
00:24:10,449 --> 00:24:12,450
THINK "MINORITY REPORT" BUT

924
00:24:12,451 --> 00:24:13,451
INSTEAD OF THREE PALE ORPHANS

925
00:24:13,452 --> 00:24:15,954
HANGING OUT IN GOO, IT'S A BUNCH

926
00:24:15,955 --> 00:24:17,956
OF BLAND-LOOKING COMPUTERS.

927
00:24:17,957 --> 00:24:20,458
SANTA CRUZ WAS ONE OF THE FIRST

928
00:24:20,459 --> 00:24:21,960
BIG CITIES TO LAUNCH PREDICTIVE

929
00:24:21,961 --> 00:24:22,961
POLICING, BACK IN 2011, AFTER

930
00:24:22,962 --> 00:24:23,962
DEVELOPING IT WITH THE HELP OF A

931
00:24:23,963 --> 00:24:25,463
LOCAL UNIVERSITY.

932
00:24:25,464 --> 00:24:26,464
AND IT WAS PROMOTED AT THE TIME

933
00:24:26,465 --> 00:24:27,966
LIKE THIS:

934
00:24:27,967 --> 00:24:29,467
>> ASSISTANT PROFESSOR OF

935
00:24:29,468 --> 00:24:30,468
MATHEMATICS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF

936
00:24:30,469 --> 00:24:31,970
SANTA CLARA COMPARES THIS KIND

937
00:24:31,971 --> 00:24:32,971
OF REPETITIVE CRIME TO

938
00:24:32,972 --> 00:24:33,972
EARTHQUAKES.

939
00:24:33,973 --> 00:24:34,973
THE INITIAL CRIME IS THE FIRST

940
00:24:34,974 --> 00:24:35,974
TREMOR.

941
00:24:35,975 --> 00:24:36,975
SUBSEQUENT CRIMES FOLLOW LIKE

942
00:24:36,976 --> 00:24:38,977
AFTERSHOCKS.

943
00:24:38,978 --> 00:24:40,478
>> WHAT YOU MIGHT THINK OF AS

944
00:24:40,479 --> 00:24:41,980
AFTER CRIMES, CRIMES TRIGGERED

945
00:24:41,981 --> 00:24:43,982
BY AN INITIAL EVENT.

946
00:24:43,983 --> 00:24:48,486
AND WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THIS

947
00:24:48,487 --> 00:24:48,987
MODEL IS CREATE MAPS.

948
00:24:48,988 --> 00:24:49,620
>> MAPS OF WHEN AND WHERE POLICE

949
00:24:49,621 --> 00:24:50,188
SHOULD DIRECT THEIR EFFORTS.

950
00:24:50,189 --> 00:24:50,989
>> WE PUT THAT INTO THE SOFTWARE

951
00:24:50,990 --> 00:24:52,490
PROGRAM.

952
00:24:52,491 --> 00:24:53,992
IT PRODUCES RESULTS IN A VERY

953
00:24:53,993 --> 00:24:55,994
SIMPLE, EASY-TO-USE GOOGLE MAP

954
00:24:55,995 --> 00:24:56,995
FORMAT THAT WE CAN THEN PROVIDE

955
00:24:56,996 --> 00:24:57,996
TO THE OFFICERS TO TELL THEM

956
00:24:57,997 --> 00:24:58,997
WHEN AND WHERE TO BE ON ANY

957
00:24:58,998 --> 00:25:00,498
GIVEN DAY.

958
00:25:00,499 --> 00:25:01,499
>> JOHN: OKAY, SO FIRST, BEFORE

959
00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:02,500
YOU SAY ANYTHING-- I KNOW.

960
00:25:02,501 --> 00:25:05,503
WE ALL SEE IT.

961
00:25:05,504 --> 00:25:07,105
NO NEED TO DWELL ON IT.

962
00:25:07,106 --> 00:25:07,505
HE'S PURE SEX.

963
00:25:07,506 --> 00:25:09,540
EVERYONE AGREES.

964
00:25:09,541 --> 00:25:14,512
END OF STORY.

965
00:25:14,513 --> 00:25:16,214
LET IT ALL OUT.

966
00:25:16,215 --> 00:25:17,515
[CHEERING AND APPLAUSE]

967
00:25:17,516 --> 00:25:18,116
THERE WAS A LOT OF HYPE AROUND

968
00:25:18,117 --> 00:25:18,750
WHAT SANTA CRUZ DID AT THE TIME.

969
00:25:18,751 --> 00:25:19,350
TIME MAGAZINE EVEN CALLED ITS

970
00:25:19,351 --> 00:25:20,018
PREDICTIVE POLICING ONE OF THE

971
00:25:20,019 --> 00:25:22,020
50 BEST NEW INVENTIONS OF 2011,

972
00:25:22,021 --> 00:25:23,621
ALONG WITH-- AND THIS IS TRUE

973
00:25:23,622 --> 00:25:26,024
-- THE BOEING 787.

974
00:25:26,025 --> 00:25:26,657
I GUESS IT'S TRUE WHAT THEY SAY:

975
00:25:26,658 --> 00:25:29,027
WHEN YOU'RE AT THE TOP, THERE'S

976
00:25:29,028 --> 00:25:30,028
SIMPLY NO PLACE TO GO BUT UP IN

977
00:25:30,029 --> 00:25:31,529
FLAMES.

978
00:25:31,530 --> 00:25:33,031
AND SINCE THEN, OTHER CITIES

979
00:25:33,032 --> 00:25:34,532
HAVE ROLLED IT OUT, INCLUDING

980
00:25:34,533 --> 00:25:36,034
LA, ATLANTA, PHILADELPHIA,

981
00:25:36,035 --> 00:25:37,535
CHICAGO, AND ST. LOUIS.

982
00:25:37,536 --> 00:25:39,037
AND SOME POLICE DEPARTMENTS HAVE

983
00:25:39,038 --> 00:25:41,039
APPLIED PREDICTIVE POLICING WITH

984
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:41,639
THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF A LIGHT

985
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,541
TOUCH.

986
00:25:43,542 --> 00:25:44,542
IN PASCO COUNTY, FLORIDA, THE

987
00:25:44,543 --> 00:25:45,543
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT USED IT TO

988
00:25:45,544 --> 00:25:47,545
COMPILE A LIST OF "TOP FIVE"

989
00:25:47,546 --> 00:25:49,047
OFFENDERS AND OTHER SUSPECTS--

990
00:25:49,048 --> 00:25:50,048
MANY OF THEM TEENAGERS-- BASED

991
00:25:50,049 --> 00:25:52,550
ON ARREST HISTORIES, UNSPECIFIED

992
00:25:52,551 --> 00:25:53,718
INTELLIGENCE AND ARBITRARY

993
00:25:53,719 --> 00:25:56,054
DECISIONS BY POLICE ANALYSTS.

994
00:25:56,055 --> 00:25:57,555
COPS WOULD THEN CONSTANTLY VISIT

995
00:25:57,556 --> 00:25:59,057
AND QUESTION THOSE OFFENDERS

996
00:25:59,058 --> 00:26:00,058
ABOUT THEIR ACTIVITIES, FILING

997
00:26:00,059 --> 00:26:02,060
REPORTS WITH DETAILS LIKE, OF

998
00:26:02,061 --> 00:26:03,061
ONE KID ON THEIR LIST, "HE HAS

999
00:26:03,062 --> 00:26:03,594
CUT HIS HAIR, WHICH IS NOW

1000
00:26:03,595 --> 00:26:05,063
SHORT."

1001
00:26:05,064 --> 00:26:06,064
"HE ADVISED AFTER THE SUMMER

1002
00:26:06,065 --> 00:26:07,065
BREAK HE WILL BE GOING TO 9TH

1003
00:26:07,066 --> 00:26:08,066
GRADE."

1004
00:26:08,067 --> 00:26:09,667
AND "HE CLAIMED NOT TO BE

1005
00:26:09,668 --> 00:26:10,301
ASSOCIATING WITH ANY OF HIS OLD

1006
00:26:10,302 --> 00:26:11,569
FRIENDS."

1007
00:26:11,570 --> 00:26:12,570
AND THAT'S SOME CRACKER JACK

1008
00:26:12,571 --> 00:26:15,373
POLICE WORK RIGHT THERE!

1009
00:26:15,374 --> 00:26:16,574
"THIS JUST IN: LOCAL TEEN TRYING

1010
00:26:16,575 --> 00:26:19,710
OUT NEW VIBE THIS SCHOOL YEAR."

1011
00:26:19,711 --> 00:26:22,080
AND TO SEE JUST HOW RIDICULOUS

1012
00:26:22,081 --> 00:26:23,581
THIS GOT, TAKE THE CASE OF A KID

1013
00:26:23,582 --> 00:26:26,084
CALLED RIO-- A 15-YEAR-OLD BOY

1014
00:26:26,085 --> 00:26:27,151
WHO'D HAD ONE ARREST, FOR

1015
00:26:27,152 --> 00:26:28,086
STEALING MOTORIZED BICYCLES WITH

1016
00:26:28,087 --> 00:26:29,087
A FRIEND.

1017
00:26:29,088 --> 00:26:30,588
HE'D BEEN PLACED ON PROBATION,

1018
00:26:30,589 --> 00:26:32,090
AND HAD A PROBATION OFFICER

1019
00:26:32,091 --> 00:26:33,591
CHECKING UP ON HIM, BUT A YEAR

1020
00:26:33,592 --> 00:26:35,093
AFTER HE WAS SENTENCED, THE

1021
00:26:35,094 --> 00:26:36,094
COMPUTER INEXPLICABLY PLACED HIM

1022
00:26:36,095 --> 00:26:38,096
ON THAT TOP-FIVE LIST.

1023
00:26:38,097 --> 00:26:38,696
AND SUDDENLY, THE POLICE WERE

1024
00:26:38,697 --> 00:26:39,597
CONSTANTLY TURNING UP TO HIS

1025
00:26:39,598 --> 00:26:40,698
HOUSE.

1026
00:26:40,699 --> 00:26:42,266
THE TAMPA BAY TIMES ACTUALLY

1027
00:26:42,267 --> 00:26:43,101
PULLED BODY CAMERA FOOTAGE OF

1028
00:26:43,102 --> 00:26:44,602
THOSE INTERACTIONS, AND IT'S

1029
00:26:44,603 --> 00:26:46,104
JUST RELENTLESS.

1030
00:26:46,105 --> 00:26:46,704
>> WHY AM I ON THE TOP FIVE?

1031
00:26:46,705 --> 00:26:48,106
I ONLY HAVE ONE CHARGE.

1032
00:26:48,107 --> 00:26:50,108
>> IT'S NOT ABOUT YOUR CHARGE.

1033
00:26:50,109 --> 00:26:51,609
IT GOES DEEPER THAN THAT.

1034
00:26:51,610 --> 00:26:53,111
IT'S ABOUT YOUR NETWORK, WHO YOU

1035
00:26:53,112 --> 00:26:54,112
ASSOCIATE WITH, YOU'RE ON

1036
00:26:54,113 --> 00:26:56,114
PROBATION, SO.

1037
00:26:56,115 --> 00:26:56,614
>> OKAY.

1038
00:26:56,615 --> 00:26:57,281
I THOUGHT I ONLY HAD ONE CHARGE.

1039
00:26:57,282 --> 00:26:58,116
>> YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF

1040
00:26:58,117 --> 00:26:58,716
INVOLVEMENTS AND HISTORY WITH

1041
00:26:58,717 --> 00:27:00,118
PEOPLE THAT COMMIT CRIME.

1042
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,119
>> I'LL GIVE IT THE (INAUDIBLE)

1043
00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:02,620
AND I'LL LET YOU KNOCK IN THE

1044
00:27:02,621 --> 00:27:03,621
OFF CHANCE HE'S SLEEPING HERE OR

1045
00:27:03,622 --> 00:27:10,628
SOME SHIT.

1046
00:27:10,629 --> 00:27:11,129
>> SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

1047
00:27:11,130 --> 00:27:11,629
>> YOU NEED RIO?

1048
00:27:11,630 --> 00:27:12,130
>> YEP.

1049
00:27:12,131 --> 00:27:12,630
>> SHE'S NICE.

1050
00:27:12,631 --> 00:27:13,131
I PROMISE.

1051
00:27:13,132 --> 00:27:14,165
>> HEY, BRO.

1052
00:27:14,166 --> 00:27:15,133
>> JUST COMING TO SAY HI TO RIO.

1053
00:27:15,134 --> 00:27:15,633
>> IS HE HOME?

1054
00:27:15,634 --> 00:27:16,634
>> NO.

1055
00:27:16,635 --> 00:27:18,636
HE'S WITH HIS MOM.

1056
00:27:18,637 --> 00:27:19,137
>> YOU NEED RIO?

1057
00:27:19,138 --> 00:27:21,139
>> YEAH.

1058
00:27:21,140 --> 00:27:21,939
>> AN OFFICER WANTED TO TALK TO

1059
00:27:21,940 --> 00:27:22,640
YOU, RIO.

1060
00:27:22,641 --> 00:27:23,274
>> WE'RE JUST HERE TO SAY HI TO

1061
00:27:23,275 --> 00:27:23,641
RIO.

1062
00:27:23,642 --> 00:27:24,175
HEY, RIO, WHAT'S GOING ON,

1063
00:27:24,176 --> 00:27:25,143
BUDDY?

1064
00:27:25,144 --> 00:27:25,676
MIND IF WE CHIT-CHAT FOR A

1065
00:27:25,677 --> 00:27:26,644
COUPLE MINUTES?

1066
00:27:26,645 --> 00:27:28,646
HAPPY NEW YEAR.

1067
00:27:28,647 --> 00:27:29,647
>> 2020.

1068
00:27:29,648 --> 00:27:32,150
>> JOHN: YEAH, HAPPY 2020!

1069
00:27:32,151 --> 00:27:35,653
IT'S GONNA BE A GREAT YEAR!

1070
00:27:35,654 --> 00:27:37,188
BUT IT GETS EVEN DUMBER.

1071
00:27:37,189 --> 00:27:38,156
ANOTHER TIME, THE COPS SHOWED UP

1072
00:27:38,157 --> 00:27:39,223
AND DEMANDED TO SEE RIO-- AND

1073
00:27:39,224 --> 00:27:40,158
WHEN HIS SISTERS SAID HE WASN'T

1074
00:27:40,159 --> 00:27:42,160
HOME, BECAUSE HE WAS WITH HIS

1075
00:27:42,161 --> 00:27:43,661
MOM AT HER WORK, JUST WATCH AS

1076
00:27:43,662 --> 00:27:44,662
ONE DEPUTY TRIED TO BULLY HIS

1077
00:27:44,663 --> 00:27:47,165
WAY INTO THE HOUSE ANYWAY.

1078
00:27:47,166 --> 00:27:48,166
>> SO, YOU CAN LET US WALK

1079
00:27:48,167 --> 00:27:49,667
THROUGH RIGHT NOW AND MAKE SURE

1080
00:27:49,668 --> 00:27:51,169
HE'S NOT HERE IN COMPLIANCE WITH

1081
00:27:51,170 --> 00:27:52,670
HIS PROBATION, OR I CAN THROW

1082
00:27:52,671 --> 00:27:53,304
BOTH YOU GUYS A CITATION FOR NOT

1083
00:27:53,305 --> 00:27:54,539
HAVING NUMBERS OF THE HOUSE.

1084
00:27:54,540 --> 00:27:55,039
WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

1085
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:55,640
>> WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?

1086
00:27:55,641 --> 00:27:56,174
>> NUMBERS ON THE HOUSE?

1087
00:27:56,175 --> 00:27:57,675
>> YOU DON'T HAVE AN ADDRESS ON

1088
00:27:57,676 --> 00:27:58,209
EITHER THE MAILBOX OR THIS

1089
00:27:58,210 --> 00:27:58,676
HOUSE.

1090
00:27:58,677 --> 00:27:59,577
>> IS THAT BLACKMAIL OR

1091
00:27:59,578 --> 00:27:59,844
SOMETHING?

1092
00:27:59,845 --> 00:28:00,211
>> YES, WE DO!

1093
00:28:00,212 --> 00:28:00,745
WE HAVE OUR ADDRESS ON OUR

1094
00:28:00,746 --> 00:28:01,179
MAILBOX RIGHT NOW.

1095
00:28:01,180 --> 00:28:02,513
>> ON THE MAILBOX?

1096
00:28:02,514 --> 00:28:04,682
>> ON THE OTHER SIDE.

1097
00:28:04,683 --> 00:28:06,184
>> JOHN: THAT IS PATHETIC.

1098
00:28:06,185 --> 00:28:08,186
USUALLY WHEN YOU HEAR THE WORDS

1099
00:28:08,187 --> 00:28:09,187
"COPS" AND "BLACKMAIL," YOU

1100
00:28:09,188 --> 00:28:11,189
THINK OF HIGH STAKES SITUATIONS

1101
00:28:11,190 --> 00:28:12,190
LIKE INFILTRATING DRUG RINGS OR

1102
00:28:12,191 --> 00:28:14,692
CORRUPT GAMBLING SCHEMES.

1103
00:28:14,693 --> 00:28:16,194
NOT "LET ME SEE YOUR TEEN OR

1104
00:28:16,195 --> 00:28:19,330
I'LL FINE YOUR MAILBOX TO HELL."

1105
00:28:19,331 --> 00:28:20,198
AND LOOK-- OBVIOUSLY, COPS CAN

1106
00:28:20,199 --> 00:28:21,699
BE ASSHOLES NO MATTER WHAT.

1107
00:28:21,700 --> 00:28:23,301
BUT IT DEFINITELY DOESN'T HELP

1108
00:28:23,302 --> 00:28:24,202
TO HAVE A COMPUTER PROGRAM

1109
00:28:24,203 --> 00:28:26,137
TELLING THEM, "YOU SHOULD

1110
00:28:26,138 --> 00:28:27,705
ABSOLUTELY GO BE AN ASSHOLE TO

1111
00:28:27,706 --> 00:28:29,207
THIS PARTICULAR PERSON, BECAUSE

1112
00:28:29,208 --> 00:28:29,840
WE THINK THEY'RE A CRIMINAL JUST

1113
00:28:29,841 --> 00:28:31,709
WAITING TO HAPPEN."

1114
00:28:31,710 --> 00:28:32,877
AND IT'S WORTH POINTING OUT THAT

1115
00:28:32,878 --> 00:28:34,712
A LOT OF THE TECHNOLOGIES YOU'VE

1116
00:28:34,713 --> 00:28:36,714
SEEN TONIGHT-- LIKE SHOTSPOTTER

1117
00:28:36,715 --> 00:28:37,348
AND LICENSE PLATE READERS-- ARE

1118
00:28:37,349 --> 00:28:38,849
DISPROPORTIONATELY USED IN

1119
00:28:38,850 --> 00:28:40,218
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR.

1120
00:28:40,219 --> 00:28:42,220
AND CAMERAS ARE OFTEN USED IN

1121
00:28:42,221 --> 00:28:44,222
TANDEM WITH FACIAL RECOGNITION

1122
00:28:44,223 --> 00:28:49,727
SOFTWARE, WHICH, AS WE'VE

1123
00:28:49,728 --> 00:28:50,728
DISCUSSED BEFORE, TENDS TO

1124
00:28:50,729 --> 00:28:51,329
MISIDENTIFY SUSPECTS FAR MORE

1125
00:28:51,330 --> 00:28:52,230
OFTEN BASED ON RACE.

1126
00:28:52,231 --> 00:28:52,830
SO THERE'S ALREADY RACIAL BIAS

1127
00:28:52,831 --> 00:28:54,232
BUILT INTO MANY OF THESE

1128
00:28:54,233 --> 00:28:55,233
TECHNOLOGIES, AND WHEN YOU START

1129
00:28:55,234 --> 00:28:56,234
FEEDING THEM INTO PREDICTIVE

1130
00:28:56,235 --> 00:28:58,169
POLICING, THAT ONLY GETS

1131
00:28:58,170 --> 00:28:59,237
COMPOUNDED.

1132
00:28:59,238 --> 00:29:00,738
AND IT FRANKLY SAYS SOMETHING

1133
00:29:00,739 --> 00:29:02,740
THAT THE PLACE THAT STARTED

1134
00:29:02,741 --> 00:29:04,242
PREDICTIVE POLICING, SANTA CRUZ,

1135
00:29:04,243 --> 00:29:05,743
ACTUALLY BACKED AWAY FROM IT A

1136
00:29:05,744 --> 00:29:08,346
FEW YEARS AGO, FOR EXACTLY THOSE

1137
00:29:08,347 --> 00:29:08,913
REASONS, AS THE POLICE CHIEF

1138
00:29:08,914 --> 00:29:09,747
THERE EXPLAINED.

1139
00:29:09,748 --> 00:29:12,750
>> THE PEOPLE WHO CREATED IT

1140
00:29:12,751 --> 00:29:15,253
WEREN'T INHERENTLY RACIST, BUT

1141
00:29:15,254 --> 00:29:16,754
THE EFFECT OF IT CAN BE RACIST.

1142
00:29:16,755 --> 00:29:17,755
AND THAT'S WHAT WE WERE

1143
00:29:17,756 --> 00:29:19,257
CONCERNED ABOUT.

1144
00:29:19,258 --> 00:29:22,260
BECAUSE IF YOU'RE PUTTING POLICE

1145
00:29:22,261 --> 00:29:24,262
OFFICERS IN A LOCATION WHERE

1146
00:29:24,263 --> 00:29:26,264
THEY'RE LIKELY TO ENGAGE PEOPLE

1147
00:29:26,265 --> 00:29:27,265
IN A NEGATIVE WAY, THEN THAT

1148
00:29:27,266 --> 00:29:28,266
BECOMES THE PROBLEM.

1149
00:29:28,267 --> 00:29:30,001
>> JOHN: RIGHT.

1150
00:29:30,002 --> 00:29:31,769
AND I KNOW HE'S BEING VERY

1151
00:29:31,770 --> 00:29:32,770
CAREFUL THERE, BUT LUCKILY, I

1152
00:29:32,771 --> 00:29:34,272
CAN BE A BIT MORE BLUNT.

1153
00:29:34,273 --> 00:29:35,773
THE PEOPLE WHO CREATED

1154
00:29:35,774 --> 00:29:36,774
PREDICTIVE POLICING THAT

1155
00:29:36,775 --> 00:29:39,277
INCORPORATED RACIST POLICE

1156
00:29:39,278 --> 00:29:39,910
PRACTICES AND DATA WERE PROBABLY

1157
00:29:39,911 --> 00:29:41,612
INHERENTLY RACIST.

1158
00:29:41,613 --> 00:29:43,281
A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE, EITHER

1159
00:29:43,282 --> 00:29:44,282
KNOWINGLY OR NOT, AND THE EFFECT

1160
00:29:44,283 --> 00:29:45,283
IS DEFINITELY RACIST.

1161
00:29:45,284 --> 00:29:47,285
IT'S JUST ONE OF MANY

1162
00:29:47,286 --> 00:29:48,786
UNCOMFORTABLE TRUTHS WE SHOULD

1163
00:29:48,787 --> 00:29:49,787
PROBABLY ALL BE MORE UPFRONT

1164
00:29:49,788 --> 00:29:50,788
ABOUT, ALONG WITH "DEATH COMES

1165
00:29:50,789 --> 00:29:52,790
FOR ALL OF US," "PEOPLE LIE,"

1166
00:29:52,791 --> 00:29:54,859
AND UNFORTUNATELY, "THE GOAL OF

1167
00:29:54,860 --> 00:29:55,860
MOST DATING REALITY SHOWS ISN'T

1168
00:29:55,861 --> 00:29:57,862
TO FIND LOVE, IT'S TO GET ENOUGH

1169
00:29:57,863 --> 00:29:59,363
INSTAGRAM FOLLOWERS SO YOU CAN

1170
00:29:59,364 --> 00:30:00,798
GET A COUPLE BRAND DEALS AND

1171
00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:07,806
MAYBE START A SKINCARE COMPANY."

1172
00:30:11,810 --> 00:30:14,312
IT'S JUST A REGRETTABLE FACT.

1173
00:30:14,313 --> 00:30:14,912
AND THOSE WHO PUSH ALL THESE

1174
00:30:14,913 --> 00:30:15,379
TOOLS WILL INSIST THAT

1175
00:30:15,380 --> 00:30:16,314
TECHNOLOGY ISN'T THE PROBLEM

1176
00:30:16,315 --> 00:30:16,881
HERE, IT'S HOW IT GETS USED.

1177
00:30:16,882 --> 00:30:17,448
FLOCK-- WHICH MAKES MANY OF

1178
00:30:17,449 --> 00:30:18,082
THOSE ALPRS I SHOWED YOU EARLIER

1179
00:30:18,083 --> 00:30:18,683
-- HAS BEEN BRANCHING OUT INTO

1180
00:30:18,684 --> 00:30:19,283
SELLING CAMERAS AND REAL-TIME

1181
00:30:19,284 --> 00:30:19,750
CRIME CENTERS TO LOCAL

1182
00:30:19,751 --> 00:30:20,318
DEPARTMENTS.

1183
00:30:20,319 --> 00:30:21,819
AND HERE'S HOW A SEGMENT ON ONE

1184
00:30:21,820 --> 00:30:22,386
OF THEM DEALT WITH CITIZENS'

1185
00:30:22,387 --> 00:30:24,322
CONCERNS.

1186
00:30:24,323 --> 00:30:26,891
>> THOSE EYES IN THE SKY AND ON

1187
00:30:26,892 --> 00:30:27,491
THE ROADS RAISE CONCERNS OVER

1188
00:30:27,492 --> 00:30:28,826
PRIVACY.

1189
00:30:28,827 --> 00:30:29,827
THE ACLU HAS RAISED CONCERNS

1190
00:30:29,828 --> 00:30:31,829
WITH FLOCK'S SURVEILLANCE

1191
00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:33,331
NETWORK, BUT FLOCK SAYS IT'S ALL

1192
00:30:33,332 --> 00:30:35,333
ABOUT HOW YOU USE IT.

1193
00:30:35,334 --> 00:30:36,334
>> AS LONG AS DEPARTMENTS HIRE

1194
00:30:36,335 --> 00:30:37,835
ETHICAL PEOPLE, WRITE SOUND

1195
00:30:37,836 --> 00:30:40,838
POLICY, AND HAVE OVERSIGHT ON

1196
00:30:40,839 --> 00:30:41,839
THOSE POLICIES, THEN YOU CAN

1197
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,341
START TO ENSURE THAT THIS IS ALL

1198
00:30:43,342 --> 00:30:45,343
USED ETHICALLY.

1199
00:30:45,344 --> 00:30:45,910
>> JOHN: OKAY, FIRST, ENOUGH

1200
00:30:45,911 --> 00:30:46,277
WITH THE BEARD.

1201
00:30:46,278 --> 00:30:48,346
WE GET IT.

1202
00:30:48,347 --> 00:30:48,979
BUT SECOND-- IT'S THAT EASY, IS

1203
00:30:48,980 --> 00:30:50,848
IT?

1204
00:30:50,849 --> 00:30:52,350
JUST HIRE ETHICAL PEOPLE, WRITE

1205
00:30:52,351 --> 00:30:53,351
SOUND POLICY, AND HAVE OVERSIGHT

1206
00:30:53,352 --> 00:30:55,853
AND IT'LL ALL BE FINE.

1207
00:30:55,854 --> 00:30:57,355
MY BROTHER IN CHRIST, HAVE YOU

1208
00:30:57,356 --> 00:30:59,357
-- AND THIS IS A TECHNICAL TERM

1209
00:30:59,358 --> 00:31:01,359
-- LOOKED AROUND RECENTLY?

1210
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,861
BECAUSE AS NICE AS THAT SOUNDS,

1211
00:31:03,862 --> 00:31:05,363
THE FACT IS, DEPARTMENTS DON'T

1212
00:31:05,364 --> 00:31:06,364
NECESSARILY DO ANY OF THOSE

1213
00:31:06,365 --> 00:31:08,366
THINGS.

1214
00:31:08,367 --> 00:31:09,700
THERE'VE NOW BEEN MANY, MANY

1215
00:31:09,701 --> 00:31:10,368
STORIES FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY

1216
00:31:10,369 --> 00:31:12,370
OF POLICE OFFICERS ACCUSED OF

1217
00:31:12,371 --> 00:31:13,371
USING ALPR DATABASES TO STALK

1218
00:31:13,372 --> 00:31:15,373
AND HARASS WOMEN.

1219
00:31:15,374 --> 00:31:17,842
AS FOR OVERSIGHT, WHILE FLOCK

1220
00:31:17,843 --> 00:31:18,476
CLAIMS THAT EVERY SEARCH REQUEST

1221
00:31:18,477 --> 00:31:20,378
IS LOGGED FOR ACCOUNTABILITY

1222
00:31:20,379 --> 00:31:21,879
PURPOSES, WHEN THIS MAN IN

1223
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,414
GEORGIA TRIED TO FIND OUT WHO'D

1224
00:31:23,415 --> 00:31:24,882
ACCESSED THE CAMERAS NEAR HIS

1225
00:31:24,883 --> 00:31:25,883
HOME, HIS CITY TOLD HIM IT WOULD

1226
00:31:25,884 --> 00:31:27,885
COST HIM HALF A MILLION DOLLARS

1227
00:31:27,886 --> 00:31:29,387
TO FULFILL HIS REQUEST.

1228
00:31:29,388 --> 00:31:36,395
WHICH IS CLEARLY CRAZY!

1229
00:31:41,900 --> 00:31:42,500
NOW, THEY DID GIVE HIM A MUCH

1230
00:31:42,501 --> 00:31:42,967
MORE LIMITED DATA SET.

1231
00:31:42,968 --> 00:31:43,534
BUT INTERESTINGLY, HE STILL

1232
00:31:43,535 --> 00:31:44,068
FOUND ENOUGH TROUBLING NEW

1233
00:31:44,069 --> 00:31:44,635
INFORMATION IN THERE TO THEN

1234
00:31:44,636 --> 00:31:45,169
TAKE IT TO A CITY COUNCIL

1235
00:31:45,170 --> 00:31:45,403
MEETING.

1236
00:31:45,404 --> 00:31:46,003
>> HUNYAR WENT TO CITY COUNCIL

1237
00:31:46,004 --> 00:31:46,570
WITH THE LIMITED FLOCK AUDIT

1238
00:31:46,571 --> 00:31:47,104
RECORDS DUNWOODY GAVE HIM.

1239
00:31:47,105 --> 00:31:47,705
>> NOBODY FROM FLOCK SAFETY IS

1240
00:31:47,706 --> 00:31:48,739
ACCESSING OR MONITORING YOUR

1241
00:31:48,740 --> 00:31:49,407
FOOTAGE.

1242
00:31:49,408 --> 00:31:51,342
ONCE AGAIN, I HAVE EVIDENCE OF

1243
00:31:51,343 --> 00:31:52,910
FLOCK EMPLOYEES LOOKING AT

1244
00:31:52,911 --> 00:31:54,779
PARKS, SCHOOLS, PLAYGROUNDS.

1245
00:31:54,780 --> 00:31:56,914
>> THE AUDIT LOGS ALSO SHOWED

1246
00:31:56,915 --> 00:31:58,916
FLOCK EXECUTIVES WATCHING

1247
00:31:58,917 --> 00:32:00,418
PRIVATE CAMERAS INSIDE THE

1248
00:32:00,419 --> 00:32:01,552
CITY'S JEWISH COMMUNITY CENTER,

1249
00:32:01,553 --> 00:32:04,422
WHICH THE MAYOR CONFIRMED.

1250
00:32:04,423 --> 00:32:08,426
>> MEMBERS OF THE FLOCK SALES

1251
00:32:08,427 --> 00:32:09,427
TEAM WERE USING IT AS A

1252
00:32:09,428 --> 00:32:10,928
DEMONSTRATION.

1253
00:32:10,929 --> 00:32:12,930
>> JOHN: HOLD ON.

1254
00:32:12,931 --> 00:32:14,432
THERE'S JUST A CASCADING SET OF

1255
00:32:14,433 --> 00:32:16,434
"YIKES" THERE.

1256
00:32:16,435 --> 00:32:18,035
FIRST, YOU GET THE NEWS THAT

1257
00:32:18,036 --> 00:32:19,437
IT'S NOT JUST COPS AND SECURITY

1258
00:32:19,438 --> 00:32:20,438
GUARDS-- FLOCK EMPLOYEES ARE

1259
00:32:20,439 --> 00:32:21,439
WATCHING THESE CAMERAS, TOO.

1260
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,441
THEN YOU GET TO "PARKS SCHOOLS

1261
00:32:23,442 --> 00:32:25,443
PLAYGROUNDS" AND A SCROLLING

1262
00:32:25,444 --> 00:32:26,444
LIST OF CAMERAS WITH LABELS LIKE

1263
00:32:26,445 --> 00:32:27,144
"GYMNASTICS" AND "GYMNASTICS

1264
00:32:27,145 --> 00:32:28,946
SIDE VIEW".

1265
00:32:28,947 --> 00:32:29,947
THEN YOU LEARN THEY'RE AT THE

1266
00:32:29,948 --> 00:32:31,582
JEWISH COMMUNITY CENTER.

1267
00:32:31,583 --> 00:32:32,450
AND FINALLY THAT "IT WAS FOR A

1268
00:32:32,451 --> 00:32:34,452
SALES DEMONSTRATION."

1269
00:32:34,453 --> 00:32:36,954
WHAT WAS EVEN THE PITCH THERE?

1270
00:32:36,955 --> 00:32:38,989
"EVER WONDER WHAT YOUR JEWISH

1271
00:32:38,990 --> 00:32:39,623
NEIGHBORS WERE UP TO, BUT DIDN'T

1272
00:32:39,624 --> 00:32:40,224
FEEL LIKE GOING OVER THERE TO

1273
00:32:40,225 --> 00:32:41,459
ASK?

1274
00:32:41,460 --> 00:32:42,092
EVER WONDER WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE

1275
00:32:42,093 --> 00:32:43,461
DOING YOGA?

1276
00:32:43,462 --> 00:32:45,463
NOW YOU DON'T HAVE TO!

1277
00:32:45,464 --> 00:32:48,466
WHY KNOCK WHEN YOU CAN FLOCK!"

1278
00:32:48,467 --> 00:32:50,468
AND WHEN A REPORTER ASKED A

1279
00:32:50,469 --> 00:32:52,470
FLOCK SPOKESPERSON ABOUT THAT,

1280
00:32:52,471 --> 00:32:54,472
IT DIDN'T GO GREAT:

1281
00:32:54,473 --> 00:32:55,473
>> WHY DIDN'T FLOCK FIND THOSE

1282
00:32:55,474 --> 00:32:56,974
VULNERABILITIES?

1283
00:32:56,975 --> 00:32:58,476
>> JOSH?

1284
00:32:58,477 --> 00:32:59,109
>> WHY DID IT TAKE A CITIZEN--

1285
00:32:59,110 --> 00:32:59,977
SORRY, GO AHEAD.

1286
00:32:59,978 --> 00:33:01,479
>> WE ACTUALLY CAN'T TALK ABOUT

1287
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,215
THE JCC BY NAME.

1288
00:33:04,216 --> 00:33:04,982
SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT SOMETHING

1289
00:33:04,983 --> 00:33:05,983
ELSE NOW.

1290
00:33:05,984 --> 00:33:06,984
>> WHY CAN'T YOU TALK ABOUT THE

1291
00:33:06,985 --> 00:33:07,985
JCC?

1292
00:33:07,986 --> 00:33:10,488
>> BECAUSE WE'VE WORKED WITH

1293
00:33:10,489 --> 00:33:11,121
THEIR TEAM, AND WE'RE NOT GOING

1294
00:33:11,122 --> 00:33:11,989
TO TALK ABOUT THAT TODAY.

1295
00:33:11,990 --> 00:33:13,491
>> A FLOCK PR PERSON STOPPED OUR

1296
00:33:13,492 --> 00:33:14,992
INTERVIEW TWICE WHEN WE TRIED TO

1297
00:33:14,993 --> 00:33:16,494
ASK ABOUT FLOCK EMPLOYEES

1298
00:33:16,495 --> 00:33:18,496
VIEWING CAMERAS INSIDE THE

1299
00:33:18,497 --> 00:33:19,997
JEWISH COMMUNITY CENTER.

1300
00:33:19,998 --> 00:33:21,131
DID THE PEOPLE IN THOSE VIDEOS

1301
00:33:21,132 --> 00:33:21,999
GIVE PERMISSION TO BE PART OF A

1302
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:22,500
DEMO?

1303
00:33:22,501 --> 00:33:23,501
>> WE'RE NOT GOING TO ANSWER

1304
00:33:23,502 --> 00:33:25,002
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE JCC.

1305
00:33:25,003 --> 00:33:25,636
NOT GONNA ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT

1306
00:33:25,637 --> 00:33:27,137
THE JCC.

1307
00:33:27,138 --> 00:33:28,606
BUT ANY PARTNERSHIP GOING

1308
00:33:28,607 --> 00:33:29,507
THROUGH--

1309
00:33:29,508 --> 00:33:30,674
>> I HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTION,

1310
00:33:30,675 --> 00:33:31,308
HOWEVER YOU GUYS WANT TO ANSWER

1311
00:33:31,309 --> 00:33:32,009
IT, AND IF YOU WANT TO SAY YOU

1312
00:33:32,010 --> 00:33:34,011
CAN'T ANSWER IT, YOU CAN'T

1313
00:33:34,012 --> 00:33:34,512
ANSWER IT.

1314
00:33:34,513 --> 00:33:35,045
THAT'S FINE.

1315
00:33:35,046 --> 00:33:36,013
BUT I HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTION.

1316
00:33:36,014 --> 00:33:37,515
I CAN'T-- IT'S NOT A PR VIDEO.

1317
00:33:37,516 --> 00:33:38,249
THIS ISN'T, LIKE, A PROMOTIONAL

1318
00:33:38,250 --> 00:33:40,017
VIDEO.

1319
00:33:40,018 --> 00:33:40,651
IT'S A-- IT'S A-- I MEAN, THIS

1320
00:33:40,652 --> 00:33:41,018
IS--

1321
00:33:41,019 --> 00:33:42,453
>> I THINK IT'S PRETTY CLEAR

1322
00:33:42,454 --> 00:33:43,053
WE'RE NOT-- THIS IS NOT A PR

1323
00:33:43,054 --> 00:33:43,254
VIDEO.

1324
00:33:43,255 --> 00:33:45,022
WE'RE GOOD, THOUGH.

1325
00:33:45,023 --> 00:33:46,023
>> JOHN: YEAH, I'M NOT SURE

1326
00:33:46,024 --> 00:33:47,091
YOU'RE AS GOOD AS YOU THINK YOU

1327
00:33:47,092 --> 00:33:49,026
ARE THERE.

1328
00:33:49,027 --> 00:33:49,660
AND I KNOW IT'S HARD FOR YOU TO

1329
00:33:49,661 --> 00:33:52,530
DEAL WITH CAMERAS YOU DON'T

1330
00:33:52,531 --> 00:33:53,163
CONTROL, BUT WHAT DID YOU THINK

1331
00:33:53,164 --> 00:33:54,532
THAT NEWS CREW WERE GOING TO DO?

1332
00:33:54,533 --> 00:33:57,535
LEAVE THAT EXCHANGE OUT?

1333
00:33:57,536 --> 00:33:59,036
NEWS STATIONS FUCKING LOVE IT

1334
00:33:59,037 --> 00:33:59,637
WHEN SOMEONE TRIES TO STOP AN

1335
00:33:59,638 --> 00:34:01,539
INTERVIEW!

1336
00:34:01,540 --> 00:34:02,606
ALL YOU'VE REALLY DONE THERE IS

1337
00:34:02,607 --> 00:34:04,041
MANAGE TO LOOK SUSPICIOUS AND TO

1338
00:34:04,042 --> 00:34:04,675
GET THEM TO BREAK OUT THE "GOOD"

1339
00:34:04,676 --> 00:34:08,045
SUBTITLES.

1340
00:34:08,046 --> 00:34:09,046
THE FACT IS, IT CURRENTLY TAKES

1341
00:34:09,047 --> 00:34:12,049
FAR TOO MUCH PRESSURE TO EXPOSE

1342
00:34:12,050 --> 00:34:14,552
WHAT SYSTEMS CITIES ARE USING,

1343
00:34:14,553 --> 00:34:17,054
AND HOW THEY'RE USING THEM.

1344
00:34:17,055 --> 00:34:17,555
IN FACT, REMEMBER HOW I

1345
00:34:17,556 --> 00:34:18,689
MENTIONED THAT RIALTO,

1346
00:34:18,690 --> 00:34:19,557
CALIFORNIA REQUIRES NEW

1347
00:34:19,558 --> 00:34:21,058
BUSINESSES TO HOOK THEIR

1348
00:34:21,059 --> 00:34:23,060
SECURITY CAMERAS UP TO FUSUS?

1349
00:34:23,061 --> 00:34:24,562
WELL, THREE YEARS AGO WE FILED A

1350
00:34:24,563 --> 00:34:25,563
NARROW PUBLIC-RECORDS REQUEST

1351
00:34:25,564 --> 00:34:27,064
WITH THEIR POLICE DEPARTMENT,

1352
00:34:27,065 --> 00:34:28,065
ASKING FOR EMAILS IN WHICH FUSUS

1353
00:34:28,066 --> 00:34:29,567
WAS DISCUSSED.

1354
00:34:29,568 --> 00:34:31,068
THEY TOLD US THEY DIDN'T HAVE

1355
00:34:31,069 --> 00:34:33,571
ANY, WHICH SEEMED IMPLAUSIBLE.

1356
00:34:33,572 --> 00:34:34,572
SO WE FILED A MUCH BROADER

1357
00:34:34,573 --> 00:34:36,574
REQUEST, AND OVER THE NEXT TWO

1358
00:34:36,575 --> 00:34:39,310
YEARS, THEY SENT US 28 PAGES,

1359
00:34:39,311 --> 00:34:40,578
WHICH STILL DIDN'T SEEM LIKE ALL

1360
00:34:40,579 --> 00:34:42,580
THE MATERIAL THEY PROBABLY HAD.

1361
00:34:42,581 --> 00:34:44,081
SO LAST FEBRUARY, WE SAID FUCK

1362
00:34:44,082 --> 00:34:46,584
IT, SEND US AN EXPORT OF YOUR

1363
00:34:46,585 --> 00:34:47,585
WHOLE LOG DATABASE FOR FUSUS,

1364
00:34:47,586 --> 00:34:49,086
SHOWING US EVERY TIME YOUR

1365
00:34:49,087 --> 00:34:50,421
OFFICERS PEEKED AT A

1366
00:34:50,422 --> 00:34:51,989
PRIVATELY-OWNED CAMERA.

1367
00:34:51,990 --> 00:34:53,090
AND WE ASKED FOR IT AS A

1368
00:34:53,091 --> 00:34:54,091
SEARCHABLE DIGITAL FILE, AS THE

1369
00:34:54,092 --> 00:34:57,094
LAW REQUIRES.

1370
00:34:57,095 --> 00:35:00,097
BUT INSTEAD, WHAT THEY DID WAS

1371
00:35:00,098 --> 00:35:01,599
SEND US A 30,413 PAGE PDF.

1372
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,667
TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF JUST HOW

1373
00:35:03,668 --> 00:35:10,675
MASSIVE THAT IS, IF YOU PRINTED

1374
00:35:12,611 --> 00:35:13,243
IT OUT, IT'S ALL THIS SHIT RIGHT

1375
00:35:13,244 --> 00:35:13,444
HERE.

1376
00:35:13,445 --> 00:35:13,944
WHICH WAS CLEARLY PRETTY

1377
00:35:13,945 --> 00:35:14,578
IRRITATING, BECAUSE IT'S A HUGE

1378
00:35:14,579 --> 00:35:15,145
AMOUNT OF INFORMATION THAT'S

1379
00:35:15,146 --> 00:35:15,679
IMPOSSIBLE TO LOOK THROUGH

1380
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:16,113
QUICKLY.

1381
00:35:16,114 --> 00:35:18,048
THANKFULLY, WE MANAGED TO

1382
00:35:18,049 --> 00:35:18,616
CONVERT IT INTO A SEARCHABLE

1383
00:35:18,617 --> 00:35:22,620
FILE, AND IN DOING SO, FOUND

1384
00:35:22,621 --> 00:35:23,220
SOME THINGS THAT IT FEELS THE

1385
00:35:23,221 --> 00:35:23,854
PEOPLE OF RIALTO SHOULD PROBABLY

1386
00:35:23,855 --> 00:35:27,124
KNOW ABOUT.

1387
00:35:27,125 --> 00:35:27,725
FOR INSTANCE, THIS IS JUST ALL

1388
00:35:27,726 --> 00:35:28,626
THE TIMES POLICE THERE ACCESSED

1389
00:35:28,627 --> 00:35:31,095
CAMERAS AT FAST-FOOD PLACES.

1390
00:35:31,096 --> 00:35:32,129
AND YOU SHOULD KNOW, SOME OF

1391
00:35:32,130 --> 00:35:33,130
THOSE CAMERAS ARE INSIDE THE

1392
00:35:33,131 --> 00:35:34,131
RESTAURANT, IN AREAS ONLY

1393
00:35:34,132 --> 00:35:35,633
EMPLOYEES CAN ACCESS.

1394
00:35:35,634 --> 00:35:37,134
FOR INSTANCE, IT SEEMS THEY CAN

1395
00:35:37,135 --> 00:35:39,136
CHECK IN ON THE GRILL AT THE

1396
00:35:39,137 --> 00:35:40,137
LOCAL WIENERSCHNITZEL ANYTIME

1397
00:35:40,138 --> 00:35:41,639
THEY WANT.

1398
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,841
AND IF YOU WORK AT THE

1399
00:35:43,842 --> 00:35:45,643
CHICK-FIL-A, JUST KNOW THAT ON

1400
00:35:45,644 --> 00:35:47,144
ONE TUESDAY AFTERNOON RIALTO HAD

1401
00:35:47,145 --> 00:35:48,145
FIVE OF YOUR INTERIOR CAMERAS

1402
00:35:48,146 --> 00:35:49,647
OPEN FOR TWO HOURS STRAIGHT.

1403
00:35:49,648 --> 00:35:51,515
THE FRONT COUNTER, THE

1404
00:35:51,516 --> 00:35:52,149
DRIVE-THRU REGISTER, THE

1405
00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:53,317
MULTIPURPOSE ROOM, THE MANAGER'S

1406
00:35:53,318 --> 00:35:55,653
STATION, AND THE OFFICE.

1407
00:35:55,654 --> 00:35:57,655
WHICH FEELS A LITTLE WEIRD.

1408
00:35:57,656 --> 00:35:59,823
AS DOES THE FACT THEY ACCESSED

1409
00:35:59,824 --> 00:36:01,158
CAMERAS AT THE RIALTO DAYS INN,

1410
00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:02,660
FOR HUNDREDS OF HOURS, INCLUDING

1411
00:36:02,661 --> 00:36:03,661
THE ONE FACING THE POOL.

1412
00:36:03,662 --> 00:36:06,163
AND COME ON.

1413
00:36:06,164 --> 00:36:08,165
GETTING SECRETLY WATCHED IN YOUR

1414
00:36:08,166 --> 00:36:09,667
SWIMSUIT IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE

1415
00:36:09,668 --> 00:36:11,168
ONE OF THE PERKS OF STAYING AT A

1416
00:36:11,169 --> 00:36:12,169
DAYS INN.

1417
00:36:12,170 --> 00:36:13,170
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO GET A ROOM

1418
00:36:13,171 --> 00:36:14,672
THAT'S FINE.

1419
00:36:14,673 --> 00:36:16,173
A BED THAT'LL DO.

1420
00:36:16,174 --> 00:36:17,675
AND A FRONT DESK THAT

1421
00:36:17,676 --> 00:36:18,242
OCCASIONALLY HAS AN EMPLOYEE

1422
00:36:18,243 --> 00:36:21,178
BEHIND IT.

1423
00:36:21,179 --> 00:36:23,180
THAT'S THE DAYS INN PROMISE.

1424
00:36:23,181 --> 00:36:25,683
AND I SHOULD SAY, THE RIALTO PD

1425
00:36:25,684 --> 00:36:26,850
INSISTS SOME OF THOSE HITS ARE

1426
00:36:26,851 --> 00:36:28,185
BECAUSE THEY WERE WATCHING A

1427
00:36:28,186 --> 00:36:30,688
WHOLE AREA, AND SCOOPING UP ALL

1428
00:36:30,689 --> 00:36:31,689
THE CAMERAS, OR THAT THEY'D LEFT

1429
00:36:31,690 --> 00:36:33,257
A SET OF CAMERAS ON IN THE

1430
00:36:33,258 --> 00:36:36,193
BACKGROUND AT THEIR OFFICE.

1431
00:36:36,194 --> 00:36:37,194
BUT THAT IS NOT AS REASSURING AS

1432
00:36:37,195 --> 00:36:41,198
I THINK THEY WANT IT TO SOUND.

1433
00:36:41,199 --> 00:36:42,199
LOOK, IT SURE SEEMS LIKE THESE

1434
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,200
SURVEILLANCE TOOLS HAVE MUCH

1435
00:36:43,201 --> 00:36:44,702
BIGGER FLAWS THAN THE PEOPLE

1436
00:36:44,703 --> 00:36:46,203
BOTH SELLING AND USING THEM ARE

1437
00:36:46,204 --> 00:36:48,706
COMFORTABLE ADMITTING.

1438
00:36:48,707 --> 00:36:49,707
BECAUSE TIME AND AGAIN, THE

1439
00:36:49,708 --> 00:36:50,708
PATTERN WHEN THEY GET ROLLED OUT

1440
00:36:50,709 --> 00:36:52,710
IS, THEY GET DEPLOYED IN SECRET,

1441
00:36:52,711 --> 00:36:54,712
THEN PUBLICLY PRESENTED IN THE

1442
00:36:54,713 --> 00:36:56,213
MOST POSITIVE LIGHT, AND ONLY

1443
00:36:56,214 --> 00:36:57,715
MUCH LATER DO WE START TO FULLY

1444
00:36:57,716 --> 00:36:58,315
UNDERSTAND THE DAMAGE THEY CAN

1445
00:36:58,316 --> 00:36:59,717
DO.

1446
00:36:59,718 --> 00:37:01,218
BASICALLY, THE PUBLIC

1447
00:37:01,219 --> 00:37:02,219
CONVERSATION COMES LAST, NOT

1448
00:37:02,220 --> 00:37:03,854
FIRST.

1449
00:37:03,855 --> 00:37:05,723
AND THE GOOD NEWS IS, DUE IN

1450
00:37:05,724 --> 00:37:06,724
PART TO THE VAST OVERREACH OF

1451
00:37:06,725 --> 00:37:08,225
THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION, WE

1452
00:37:08,226 --> 00:37:09,326
ARE NOW FINALLY STARTING TO HAVE

1453
00:37:09,327 --> 00:37:11,729
THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

1454
00:37:11,730 --> 00:37:13,230
AROUND THE COUNTRY, PEOPLE ARE

1455
00:37:13,231 --> 00:37:14,231
SHOWING UP TO DEMAND THEIR

1456
00:37:14,232 --> 00:37:15,466
CITIES AND TOWNS END CONTRACTS

1457
00:37:15,467 --> 00:37:17,735
WITH COMPANIES LIKE FLOCK,

1458
00:37:17,736 --> 00:37:20,237
INCLUDING A MAN IN SEATTLE WHO

1459
00:37:20,238 --> 00:37:22,740
DID SO WHILE DRESSED AS AN ALPR.

1460
00:37:22,741 --> 00:37:29,748
AND WHILE I ADMIRE HIS

1461
00:37:30,248 --> 00:37:31,248
COMMITMENT TO THE CAUSE, HE DOES

1462
00:37:31,249 --> 00:37:31,882
LOOK MORE LIKE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN

1463
00:37:31,883 --> 00:37:32,516
IF A PIXAR DAD FUCKED THE PIXAR

1464
00:37:32,517 --> 00:37:32,750
LAMP.

1465
00:37:32,751 --> 00:37:33,383
BECAUSE I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE

1466
00:37:33,384 --> 00:37:35,252
THIS IS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN.

1467
00:37:35,253 --> 00:37:36,253
BUT IT'S WORTH REMEMBERING,

1468
00:37:36,254 --> 00:37:38,255
FLOCK CAMERAS ARE JUST ONE PART

1469
00:37:38,256 --> 00:37:40,257
OF A VAST ECOSYSTEM HERE.

1470
00:37:40,258 --> 00:37:41,759
AND EVEN IF YOUR TOWN GETS RID

1471
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:42,760
OF THEM, COPS MIGHT STILL BE

1472
00:37:42,761 --> 00:37:44,261
LOOKING AT CAMERAS IN PRIVATE

1473
00:37:44,262 --> 00:37:46,263
BUSINESSES, OR USING STINGRAYS,

1474
00:37:46,264 --> 00:37:47,731
OR EMPLOYING ANY OF THE OTHER

1475
00:37:47,732 --> 00:37:48,232
TECHNOLOGIES YOU'VE SEEN

1476
00:37:48,233 --> 00:37:49,266
TONIGHT.

1477
00:37:49,267 --> 00:37:51,268
IF YOU NOW WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S

1478
00:37:51,269 --> 00:37:52,269
BEING USED IN YOUR TOWN, YOU CAN

1479
00:37:52,270 --> 00:37:53,871
CHECK OUT RESOURCES LIKE

1480
00:37:53,872 --> 00:37:54,772
THE EFF'S "ATLAS OF

1481
00:37:54,773 --> 00:37:56,273
SURVEILLANCE", WHICH CATALOGS

1482
00:37:56,274 --> 00:37:56,907
EACH OF THE TECHNOLOGIES USED IN

1483
00:37:56,908 --> 00:38:03,280
YOUR AREA.

1484
00:38:03,281 --> 00:38:03,881
AND I'LL WARN YOU, THE ANSWER

1485
00:38:03,882 --> 00:38:04,515
PROBABLY ISN'T GOING TO MAKE YOU

1486
00:38:04,516 --> 00:38:04,782
HAPPY.

1487
00:38:04,783 --> 00:38:05,349
AND AS FOR WHAT TO DO ABOUT

1488
00:38:05,350 --> 00:38:06,850
THIS, EXPERTS SAY THAT, TO THE

1489
00:38:06,851 --> 00:38:08,786
EXTENT WE USE ANY OF THESE

1490
00:38:08,787 --> 00:38:09,787
TECHNOLOGIES AT ALL, WE AT THE

1491
00:38:09,788 --> 00:38:10,788
VERY LEAST NEED TO MAKE SURE

1492
00:38:10,789 --> 00:38:12,790
THEY'RE THOROUGHLY VETTED AND

1493
00:38:12,791 --> 00:38:14,792
DEBATED BEFORE INSTALLATION, AND

1494
00:38:14,793 --> 00:38:15,959
MANDATE AUDITS FOCUSED ON CIVIL

1495
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:16,794
RIGHTS, CIVIL LIBERTIES,

1496
00:38:16,795 --> 00:38:18,796
PRIVACY, AND RACIAL JUSTICE

1497
00:38:18,797 --> 00:38:20,798
RISKS, TO BE CONDUCTED BOTH

1498
00:38:20,799 --> 00:38:21,431
BEFORE AND AFTER A TECHNOLOGY IS

1499
00:38:21,432 --> 00:38:22,800
ADOPTED.

1500
00:38:22,801 --> 00:38:26,303
AND THAT REALLY DOESN'T SEEM

1501
00:38:26,304 --> 00:38:27,304
LIKE TOO MUCH TO ASK, BECAUSE

1502
00:38:27,305 --> 00:38:29,807
THE VERY FACT THAT WE DON'T

1503
00:38:29,808 --> 00:38:30,808
CURRENTLY HAVE ALL THOSE

1504
00:38:30,809 --> 00:38:31,809
REQUIREMENTS IN PLACE IS--

1505
00:38:31,810 --> 00:38:33,377
WHAT'S THE BEST PHRASE TO USE

1506
00:38:33,378 --> 00:38:35,312
HERE?

1507
00:38:35,313 --> 00:38:42,319
>> THAT'S INSANE, THAT'S CRAZY.

1508
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,321
>> John: YEAH, IT REALLY IS.

1509
00:38:44,322 --> 00:38:45,322
THAT'S OUR SHOW, THANK YOU SO

1510
00:38:45,323 --> 00:38:46,924
MUCH FOR WATCHING, SEE YOU NEXT

1511
00:38:46,925 --> 00:38:48,325
WEEK.

1512
00:38:48,326 --> 00:38:48,625
GOOD NIGHT!

1513
00:38:48,626 --> 00:38:52,329
[CHEERING AND APPLAUSE]

1514
00:38:52,330 --> 00:38:59,837
♪ ♪

1515
00:38:59,838 --> 00:39:01,839
>> HELLO?

1516
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:08,345
HELLO?

1517
00:39:08,346 --> 00:39:09,180
SO ALONE