1 00:00:10,324 --> 00:00:18,740 ♪ ♪ 2 00:00:23,902 --> 00:00:28,594 ♪ ♪ 3 00:00:28,595 --> 00:00:29,940 >> John: WELCOME, WELCOME, 4 00:00:29,941 --> 00:00:31,285 WELCOME TO "LAST WEEK TONIGHT!" 5 00:00:31,286 --> 00:00:32,349 I'M JOHN OLIVER. 6 00:00:32,350 --> 00:00:34,349 THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING US. 7 00:00:34,350 --> 00:00:36,010 IT'S BEEN A BUSY WEEK. 8 00:00:36,170 --> 00:00:37,449 PROTESTS CONTINUED IN FRANCE AND 9 00:00:37,450 --> 00:00:39,069 INDIA, THE USS ABRAHAM LINCOLN 10 00:00:39,070 --> 00:00:41,189 FINALLY RETURNED HOME, AND A NEW 11 00:00:41,190 --> 00:00:42,190 SCANDAL HIT THE TRUMP 12 00:00:42,574 --> 00:00:45,128 ADMINISTRATION-- AND EVEN BY 13 00:00:45,129 --> 00:00:45,212 THEIR STANDARDS, IT'S A PRETTY 14 00:00:45,213 --> 00:00:45,849 TACKY ONE. 15 00:00:45,850 --> 00:00:47,409 >> A MAJOR TRUMP DONOR IS 16 00:00:47,410 --> 00:00:49,539 ACCUSING KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE OF 17 00:00:49,540 --> 00:00:51,109 BEGGING HIM TO PLAY HER AMERICAN 18 00:00:51,110 --> 00:00:52,069 EXPRESS BILL. 19 00:00:52,070 --> 00:00:53,809 ERIC DETERS, WHO ONCE RAN FOR 20 00:00:53,810 --> 00:00:55,409 GOVERNOR OF KENTUCKY, SAYS 21 00:00:55,410 --> 00:00:56,970 DONALD TRUMP JR'S FORMER FIANCE 22 00:00:57,690 --> 00:00:59,049 BEGGED HIM TO PAY OFF HER 23 00:00:59,050 --> 00:01:01,909 $100,000 BILL, JUST SIX DAYS 24 00:01:01,910 --> 00:01:03,708 BEFORE SHE WAS CONFIRMED AS THE 25 00:01:03,709 --> 00:01:04,128 NEW U.S. 26 00:01:04,129 --> 00:01:05,230 AMBASSADOR TO GREECE. 27 00:01:05,410 --> 00:01:07,109 "IT WON'T SHOW UP ANYWHERE IF 28 00:01:07,110 --> 00:01:08,589 YOU WIRE MONEY TO AMERICAN 29 00:01:08,590 --> 00:01:10,229 EXPRESS," SHE WROTE HIM ON THE 30 00:01:10,230 --> 00:01:11,230 SIGNAL MESSAGING APP. 31 00:01:11,570 --> 00:01:13,349 "PLEASE, HONEY, PLEASE," SHE 32 00:01:13,350 --> 00:01:14,490 BEGGED IN ANOTHER MESSAGE. 33 00:01:14,670 --> 00:01:16,389 "I NEED YOU TO GET THIS DONE FOR 34 00:01:16,390 --> 00:01:17,369 ME TODAY." 35 00:01:17,370 --> 00:01:19,529 >> John: OK, FIRST, THAT TEXT IS 36 00:01:19,530 --> 00:01:19,969 SOMETHING. 37 00:01:19,970 --> 00:01:22,129 "HONEY, PLEASE SEND $100,000 TO 38 00:01:22,130 --> 00:01:22,768 MY CREDIT CARD. 39 00:01:22,769 --> 00:01:23,909 AND SWEETIE, DON'T GO ON THE 40 00:01:23,910 --> 00:01:25,269 NEWS LATER TO TALK ABOUT IT. 41 00:01:25,270 --> 00:01:26,689 AND PUNKIN, PLEASE ALSO SEND 42 00:01:26,690 --> 00:01:27,750 100 GRAND TO SEPHORA. 43 00:01:27,950 --> 00:01:29,489 I NEED A NEW VAT OF CHARCOAL 44 00:01:29,490 --> 00:01:30,069 EYELINER. 45 00:01:30,070 --> 00:01:32,169 MY STYLE ICON IS A RACCOON. 46 00:01:32,170 --> 00:01:33,229 PRAYER HANDS." 47 00:01:33,230 --> 00:01:35,768 BUT LET'S BACK UP FOR A SECOND. 48 00:01:35,769 --> 00:01:37,228 KIMBERLEY GUILFOYLE IS THE 49 00:01:37,229 --> 00:01:38,889 CURRENT AMBASSADOR TO GREECE. 50 00:01:38,890 --> 00:01:40,249 AND IT WAS ALWAYS AN ODD JOB FOR 51 00:01:40,250 --> 00:01:41,349 HER TO GET, GIVEN SHE'S PROBABLY 52 00:01:41,350 --> 00:01:43,059 BEST KNOWN FOR THIS MOMENT AT 53 00:01:43,060 --> 00:01:44,185 THE 2020 RNC: 54 00:01:44,186 --> 00:01:45,416 >> THE BEST! 55 00:01:45,417 --> 00:01:46,018 IS YET! 56 00:01:46,019 --> 00:01:47,993 TO COME! 57 00:01:47,994 --> 00:01:48,595 >> John: YEAH, THAT'S JUST TOO 58 00:01:48,596 --> 00:01:50,629 MUCH. 59 00:01:50,630 --> 00:01:52,929 OUTDOOR VOICE, COCAINE EYES, AND 60 00:01:52,930 --> 00:01:54,130 EVITA ARMS? 61 00:01:54,469 --> 00:01:55,389 TONE IT DOWN. 62 00:01:55,390 --> 00:01:56,829 SHE'S ONE STEP AWAY FROM 63 00:01:56,830 --> 00:01:58,589 TRANSFORMING INTO A FLOCK OF 64 00:01:58,590 --> 00:01:59,590 CROWS. 65 00:01:59,770 --> 00:02:01,629 ANYWAY, GUILFOYLE'S BEEN ACCUSED 66 00:02:01,630 --> 00:02:02,869 OF USING HER POLITICAL INFLUENCE 67 00:02:02,870 --> 00:02:04,109 TO MAKE MONEY FROM ERIC DETERS, 68 00:02:04,289 --> 00:02:05,909 AN EX-LAWYER, RADIO HOST, AND 69 00:02:05,910 --> 00:02:07,489 FORMER CO-OWNER OF THE "SNAPPY 70 00:02:07,490 --> 00:02:08,669 TOMATO" PIZZA CHAIN. 71 00:02:09,009 --> 00:02:10,549 HE APPARENTLY WANTED A NUMBER OF 72 00:02:10,550 --> 00:02:11,709 FAVORS FROM GUILFOYLE, INCLUDING 73 00:02:11,710 --> 00:02:12,729 CONNECTING HIM WITH THE IRS, 74 00:02:12,730 --> 00:02:13,749 WHICH WAS QUESTIONING A 75 00:02:13,750 --> 00:02:15,109 DEDUCTION HE'D MADE A FEW YEARS 76 00:02:15,110 --> 00:02:16,049 AGO, AND HAVING THE GOVERNMENT 77 00:02:16,050 --> 00:02:17,349 HELP OUT IN A MALPRACTICE CASE 78 00:02:17,350 --> 00:02:18,629 AGAINST A DOCTOR WHO'D FLED THE 79 00:02:18,630 --> 00:02:19,008 COUNTRY. 80 00:02:19,009 --> 00:02:20,848 AND DETERS SAYS HE'S COMING OUT 81 00:02:20,849 --> 00:02:21,424 NOW BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT 82 00:02:21,425 --> 00:02:22,425 DIDN'T FOLLOW THROUGH ON THAT 83 00:02:22,710 --> 00:02:24,589 LAST ONE-- OR, INDEED, ANY OF 84 00:02:24,590 --> 00:02:25,769 THE THINGS HE ASKED OF 85 00:02:25,770 --> 00:02:27,309 GUILFOYLE, SOME OF WHICH ARE 86 00:02:27,310 --> 00:02:28,609 TRULY NUTS. 87 00:02:28,610 --> 00:02:29,221 >> I SAID, "WAIT A MINUTE, 88 00:02:29,222 --> 00:02:30,769 KIMBERLY. 89 00:02:30,770 --> 00:02:32,209 YOU'VE NOT DONE ANYTHING THAT 90 00:02:32,210 --> 00:02:33,068 YOU'VE PROMISED ME. 91 00:02:33,069 --> 00:02:34,509 YOU HAVEN'T GOT ME ON, TUCKER. 92 00:02:34,670 --> 00:02:35,929 YOU HAVEN'T GOT ME ON A FOX 93 00:02:35,930 --> 00:02:36,609 INTERVIEW. 94 00:02:36,610 --> 00:02:37,870 YOU HAVEN'T DONE SQUAT. 95 00:02:38,050 --> 00:02:39,549 YOU DIDN'T GET KID ROCK THE SONG 96 00:02:39,550 --> 00:02:40,101 THAT I WROTE." 97 00:02:40,102 --> 00:02:42,449 >> John: HOLD ON. 98 00:02:42,450 --> 00:02:44,349 "YOU DIDN'T GET KID ROCK THE 99 00:02:44,350 --> 00:02:45,370 SONG I WROTE." 100 00:02:45,510 --> 00:02:47,689 DO YOU KNOW HOW BAD A SONG HAS 101 00:02:47,690 --> 00:02:50,029 TO BE FOR IT TO BE NOT GOOD 102 00:02:50,030 --> 00:02:51,430 ENOUGH FOR KID ROCK? 103 00:02:51,850 --> 00:02:53,389 THE GUY WHO WROTE A SONG, 104 00:02:53,390 --> 00:02:54,529 FEATURED IN THE CHILDREN'S MOVIE 105 00:02:54,530 --> 00:02:55,768 "OSMOSIS JONES," IN WHICH HE 106 00:02:55,769 --> 00:02:57,289 SANG "YOUNG LADIES, YOUNG 107 00:02:57,290 --> 00:02:59,049 LADIES, I LIKE 'EM UNDERAGE, 108 00:02:59,050 --> 00:03:01,010 SEE, SOME SAY THAT'S STATUTORY, 109 00:03:01,410 --> 00:03:02,950 BUT I SAY IT'S MANDATORY." 110 00:03:03,290 --> 00:03:05,389 HE PERFORMED THAT SONG IN A 111 00:03:05,390 --> 00:03:06,390 KIDs' MOVIE! 112 00:03:06,910 --> 00:03:08,369 YOU KNOW IT'S BAD WHEN YOU HAVE 113 00:03:08,370 --> 00:03:09,669 THE CREEPIEST SONG ON AN ALBUM 114 00:03:09,670 --> 00:03:11,890 THAT ALSO FEATURES R KELLY. 115 00:03:12,809 --> 00:03:14,309 ANYWAY, BASED ON THOSE 116 00:03:14,310 --> 00:03:15,469 MESSAGES, GUILFOYLE SEEMED 117 00:03:15,470 --> 00:03:16,690 WORRIED ABOUT ALL THIS BECOMING 118 00:03:17,099 --> 00:03:19,164 PUBLIC, AS SHE WARNED DETERS 119 00:03:19,165 --> 00:03:20,267 REPEATEDLY NOT TO COMMIT TALK OF 120 00:03:20,268 --> 00:03:21,634 MONEY OR PAYMENTS TO TEXT, 121 00:03:21,635 --> 00:03:22,789 SAYING, "ERIC, I REALLY WISH YOU 122 00:03:22,790 --> 00:03:23,768 WOULD STOP PAPERING ALL THESE 123 00:03:23,769 --> 00:03:24,988 THINGS, IT'S REALLY DANGEROUS 124 00:03:24,989 --> 00:03:26,250 AND NOT HELPFUL TO YOU OR ME 125 00:03:26,470 --> 00:03:28,089 WHILE YOU COULD SIMPLY JUST CALL 126 00:03:28,090 --> 00:03:28,809 ME ON SIGNAL." 127 00:03:28,810 --> 00:03:30,259 AND WHEN HE STILL DIDN'T TAKE 128 00:03:30,260 --> 00:03:31,750 THE HINT, SHE LATER TEXTED, 129 00:03:32,070 --> 00:03:33,328 "WHAT A NIGHTMARE YOU'LL 130 00:03:33,329 --> 00:03:34,189 LITERALLY COST ME MY 131 00:03:34,190 --> 00:03:36,430 AMBASSADORSHIP STOP WRITING." 132 00:03:36,769 --> 00:03:38,649 NOW, GUILFOYLE'S LAWYER HAS 133 00:03:38,650 --> 00:03:39,869 DISPUTED THE AUTHENTICITY OF THE 134 00:03:39,870 --> 00:03:40,869 MESSAGES, WITHOUT GIVING 135 00:03:40,870 --> 00:03:41,409 SPECIFICS. 136 00:03:41,410 --> 00:03:43,029 BUT IT'S JUST THE LATEST CONCERN 137 00:03:43,030 --> 00:03:44,429 ABOUT HER APPOINTMENT AS 138 00:03:44,430 --> 00:03:45,349 AMBASSADOR, GIVEN THERE'S ALSO 139 00:03:45,350 --> 00:03:46,950 BEEN COVERAGE OF, AMONG OTHER 140 00:03:47,893 --> 00:03:48,892 THINGS, HER BRINGING A 141 00:03:48,893 --> 00:03:49,929 REGISTERED LOBBYIST TO MEETINGS 142 00:03:49,930 --> 00:03:50,930 WITH FOREIGN OFFICIALS. 143 00:03:51,169 --> 00:03:52,989 AND SHE HASN'T EVEN BEEN GOOD AT 144 00:03:53,329 --> 00:03:54,870 THE EASIEST PART OF HER JOB-- 145 00:03:55,237 --> 00:03:56,237 ESSENTIALLY JUST DOING P.R. 146 00:03:56,790 --> 00:03:57,930 FOR AMERICA OVERSEAS. 147 00:03:58,190 --> 00:04:00,129 IN FACT, WATCH THIS VIDEO HER 148 00:04:00,130 --> 00:04:01,169 EMBASSY PUT OUT, FEATURING A 149 00:04:01,170 --> 00:04:02,328 SPEECH SHE GAVE AT A FOURTH OF 150 00:04:02,329 --> 00:04:04,289 JULY EVENT, MEANT TO FIRE UP THE 151 00:04:04,290 --> 00:04:05,129 ASSEMBLED CROWD. 152 00:04:05,130 --> 00:04:06,870 BECAUSE IT WASN'T EXACTLY 153 00:04:07,310 --> 00:04:08,005 ELECTRIFYING. 154 00:04:08,006 --> 00:04:10,860 >> AS PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID, THIS 155 00:04:10,957 --> 00:04:11,957 ANNIVERSARY IS A TIME TO BE 156 00:04:12,170 --> 00:04:13,370 PROUD OF OUR PAST. 157 00:04:13,750 --> 00:04:15,869 BUT IT IS ALSO A TIME TO LIFT 158 00:04:15,870 --> 00:04:17,870 OUR SIGHTS, EXPAND OUR 159 00:04:18,370 --> 00:04:19,469 AMBITIONS, AND RAISE OUR 160 00:04:19,470 --> 00:04:21,268 EXPECTATIONS OF WHAT AMERICA CAN 161 00:04:21,269 --> 00:04:21,529 BE. 162 00:04:21,530 --> 00:04:23,530 WE WILL LEAVE OUR CHILDREN 163 00:04:24,070 --> 00:04:26,710 NOTHING LESS THAN THE RICHEST 164 00:04:27,090 --> 00:04:28,797 INHERITANCE, MOST ADVANCED 165 00:04:28,798 --> 00:04:30,705 CIVILIZATION, AND HIGHEST 166 00:04:30,706 --> 00:04:31,381 STANDARD OF LIVING IN HUMAN 167 00:04:31,382 --> 00:04:35,111 HISTORY. 168 00:04:35,212 --> 00:04:37,328 >> John: WHAT HAPPENED THERE? 169 00:04:37,430 --> 00:04:38,969 DID THE TELEPROMPTER JUST SAY 170 00:04:38,970 --> 00:04:40,049 "DO THIS PART LIKE YOU'RE A 171 00:04:40,050 --> 00:04:41,489 DISNEY ANIMATRONIC WHOSE BATTERY 172 00:04:41,490 --> 00:04:42,490 IS RUNNING OUT?" 173 00:04:42,870 --> 00:04:44,610 NOW, THE WHITE HOUSE SEEMS TO BE 174 00:04:44,810 --> 00:04:45,989 TRYING TO DISTANCE ITSELF FROM 175 00:04:45,990 --> 00:04:46,869 GUILFOYLE, WITH ADMINISTRATION 176 00:04:46,870 --> 00:04:48,029 OFFICIALS APPARENTLY DISCUSSING 177 00:04:48,030 --> 00:04:49,189 WHETHER SHE SHOULD BE REMOVED 178 00:04:49,190 --> 00:04:49,909 FROM HER POST. 179 00:04:49,910 --> 00:04:51,566 SO THERE MAY WELL BE MORE TO SAY 180 00:04:51,567 --> 00:04:52,758 ABOUT THIS GOING FORWARD. 181 00:04:52,759 --> 00:04:53,696 OR, TO BORROW A PHRASE-- 182 00:04:53,697 --> 00:04:55,003 >> THE BEST! 183 00:04:55,004 --> 00:04:55,457 IS YET! 184 00:04:55,458 --> 00:04:57,077 TO COME! 185 00:04:57,078 --> 00:04:58,078 >> John: RIGHT. 186 00:04:58,610 --> 00:04:59,969 I COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT LOUDER 187 00:04:59,970 --> 00:05:00,970 MYSELF. 188 00:05:01,190 --> 00:05:02,469 BUT FOR NOW, WE'RE ACTUALLY 189 00:05:02,470 --> 00:05:03,509 GOING TO DIVE STRAIGHT IN WITH 190 00:05:03,510 --> 00:05:04,649 OUR MAIN STORY THIS WEEK, WHICH 191 00:05:04,650 --> 00:05:05,650 CONCERNS MEDICATION. 192 00:05:05,990 --> 00:05:08,129 THE SUBJECT OF THIS 1980S PSA 193 00:05:08,130 --> 00:05:09,130 WHERE A GROUP OF PILLS 194 00:05:09,570 --> 00:05:10,629 DISCOURAGE KIDS FROM EATING 195 00:05:10,630 --> 00:05:11,322 THEM. 196 00:05:11,323 --> 00:05:17,146 ♪ THIS IS SERIOUS ♪ 197 00:05:17,259 --> 00:05:22,235 ♪ WE COULD MAKE YOU DELIRIOUS ♪ 198 00:05:22,349 --> 00:05:23,537 ♪ YOU SHOULD HAVE A HEALTHY FEAR 199 00:05:23,650 --> 00:05:28,173 OF US ♪ 200 00:05:28,287 --> 00:05:31,735 ♪ TOO MUCH OF US IS DANGEROUS ♪ 201 00:05:31,849 --> 00:05:35,806 ♪ NO NO NO NO ♪ 202 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:36,958 ♪ WE'RE NOT CANDY ♪ 203 00:05:36,959 --> 00:05:37,379 ♪ EVEN THOUGH WE LOOK SO FINE 204 00:05:37,380 --> 00:05:38,483 AND DANDY ♪ 205 00:05:38,484 --> 00:05:38,803 ♪ WHEN YOU'RE SICK WE COME IN 206 00:05:38,804 --> 00:05:39,864 HANDY ♪ 207 00:05:39,865 --> 00:05:41,070 ♪ BUT WE'RE NOT CANDY ♪ 208 00:05:41,071 --> 00:05:41,782 ♪ OH, NO ♪ 209 00:05:41,783 --> 00:05:42,421 >> John: LISTEN, I APPRECIATE 210 00:05:42,422 --> 00:05:42,779 THE MESSAGE THERE, BUT 211 00:05:42,780 --> 00:05:44,159 UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T THINK 212 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:45,979 I'VE EVER WANTED TO EAT A PILE 213 00:05:45,980 --> 00:05:47,140 OF LOOSE PILLS MORE. 214 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:47,819 I MEAN IT. 215 00:05:47,820 --> 00:05:48,559 THERE ARE LITERALLY 216 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,239 CANDY COMMERCIALS THAT'VE MADE 217 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:51,199 ME WANT TO EAT THEIR PRODUCT 218 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:52,939 LESS THAN THOSE ADORABLE SINGING 219 00:05:52,940 --> 00:05:53,938 SKITTLES. 220 00:05:53,939 --> 00:05:55,819 GET IN MY MOUTH! 221 00:05:56,780 --> 00:05:57,780 SPECIFICALLY, WE'RE GOING TO 222 00:05:57,940 --> 00:05:59,439 FOCUS ON GENERIC MEDICATIONS. 223 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:00,519 YOU KNOW, DRUGS THAT CONTAIN THE 224 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:01,899 SAME ACTIVE INGREDIENTS, DOSAGE 225 00:06:01,900 --> 00:06:03,320 FORM, STRENGTH, SAFETY, QUALITY, 226 00:06:03,420 --> 00:06:04,635 AND INTENDED USE AS THEIR 227 00:06:04,636 --> 00:06:06,019 BRAND-NAME COUNTERPARTS. 228 00:06:06,020 --> 00:06:07,539 OR, AS THIS DIRECTOR OF PHARMACY 229 00:06:07,540 --> 00:06:08,601 SERVICES PUTS IT: 230 00:06:08,602 --> 00:06:09,602 >> THE GENERIC IS THE SAME AS 231 00:06:09,706 --> 00:06:11,237 THE BRAND. 232 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:12,360 THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE. 233 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,619 THE ONLY DIFFERENCE MIGHT BE IN 234 00:06:14,620 --> 00:06:16,139 THE FILLER, NOT THE ACTIVE 235 00:06:16,140 --> 00:06:16,959 INGREDIENT. 236 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:18,199 IT'S THAT ACTIVE INGREDIENT 237 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:18,898 THAT'S THE SAME. 238 00:06:18,899 --> 00:06:20,164 >> THAT'S THE IMPORTANT PART. 239 00:06:20,165 --> 00:06:21,019 >> WELL, THAT'S THAT PART THAT 240 00:06:21,020 --> 00:06:22,434 DOES THE MAGIC, YES. 241 00:06:22,435 --> 00:06:23,760 >> John: NOW, I'LL BE HONEST. 242 00:06:23,761 --> 00:06:25,499 "THE PART THAT DOES THE MAGIC" 243 00:06:25,500 --> 00:06:27,220 IS A WEIRD ENOUGH PHRASE AS IS 244 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:28,999 BEFORE YOU REALIZE THEY CHOSE TO 245 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:30,840 USE VIAGRA AS THE EXAMPLE THERE, 246 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:32,658 FORCING US ALL TO REMEMBER 247 00:06:32,659 --> 00:06:33,839 THAT, IN CERTAIN CASES, "DOING 248 00:06:33,840 --> 00:06:35,039 THE MAGIC" COULD WELL MEAN 249 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,200 "MAKING GRANDPA ROCK-HARD." 250 00:06:37,670 --> 00:06:40,459 BUT GENERICS ARE, BY FAR, THE 251 00:06:40,460 --> 00:06:41,539 MOST COMMON TYPE OF MEDICATION 252 00:06:41,540 --> 00:06:42,658 PEOPLE TAKE IN THE U.S. 253 00:06:42,659 --> 00:06:43,599 THEY CURRENTLY MAKE UP MORE THAN 254 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,499 90 PERCENT OF ALL U.S 255 00:06:45,500 --> 00:06:46,079 PRESCRIPTIONS. 256 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:47,579 YOU MAY EVEN TAKE THEM WITHOUT 257 00:06:47,580 --> 00:06:48,329 REALIZING IT. 258 00:06:48,330 --> 00:06:49,158 YOU MAY'VE BEEN PRESCRIBED 259 00:06:49,159 --> 00:06:50,279 ZOLOFT, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR 260 00:06:50,280 --> 00:06:51,400 BOTTLE, IT MIGHT SAY SERTRALINE. 261 00:06:51,620 --> 00:06:52,699 THAT'S THE GENERIC. 262 00:06:52,700 --> 00:06:53,699 SIMILARLY, IF YOU'RE PRESCRIBED 263 00:06:53,700 --> 00:06:55,245 LEXAPRO, YOUR BOTTLE MAY SAY 264 00:06:55,246 --> 00:06:56,472 ESCITALOPRAM. 265 00:06:56,473 --> 00:06:57,999 OR IF YOU'RE PRESCRIBED PROZAC 266 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,439 IT MAY SAY FLUOXETINE. 267 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:00,319 AND IF YOU'VE NEVER TAKEN ANY OF 268 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:01,219 THOSE MEDS, THEN CONGRATULATIONS 269 00:07:01,220 --> 00:07:02,899 ON BEING A HAPPY, WELL-ADJUSTED 270 00:07:02,900 --> 00:07:05,340 PERSON, AND KINDLY GO FUCK 271 00:07:05,968 --> 00:07:07,755 YOURSELF. 272 00:07:07,756 --> 00:07:08,239 BUT UNFORTUNATELY, IN RECENT 273 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:09,230 YEARS, THERE'VE BEEN 274 00:07:09,231 --> 00:07:10,270 EYE-CATCHING STORIES ABOUT 275 00:07:10,540 --> 00:07:12,279 SUDDEN DRUG SHORTAGES, OFTEN 276 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:13,899 INVOLVING SOME EXCEPTIONALLY 277 00:07:13,900 --> 00:07:15,119 COMMON GENERICS. 278 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:16,161 >> MASS GENERAL HAS A TOUGH 279 00:07:16,162 --> 00:07:17,625 ENOUGH JOB WITHOUT HAVING TO 280 00:07:17,626 --> 00:07:19,514 DEAL WITH A DRUG SHORTAGE. 281 00:07:19,515 --> 00:07:20,556 >> I NEVER THOUGHT WE WOULD GET 282 00:07:20,557 --> 00:07:21,794 TO A POINT IN THE U.S. 283 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:23,379 HEALTHCARE SYSTEM WHERE WE 284 00:07:23,380 --> 00:07:24,439 WOULDN'T HAVE ESSENTIAL 285 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:25,499 MEDICINES TO BE ABLE TO TREAT 286 00:07:25,500 --> 00:07:25,982 PATIENTS. 287 00:07:25,983 --> 00:07:27,666 >> THE HOSPITAL CAN'T GET ENOUGH 288 00:07:27,667 --> 00:07:29,559 OF THE BLOOD THINNER HEPARIN, 289 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,060 CRUCIAL FOR CARDIAC SURGERY. 290 00:07:31,460 --> 00:07:34,199 HOW SURPRISING WAS IT FOR YOU TO 291 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:35,739 HEAR THAT THERE WAS A HEPARIN 292 00:07:35,740 --> 00:07:36,006 SHORTAGE? 293 00:07:36,007 --> 00:07:36,871 >> OH, IT WAS COMPLETELY 294 00:07:36,872 --> 00:07:38,330 SURPRISING. 295 00:07:38,439 --> 00:07:39,779 IT'S EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING. 296 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:41,759 I MEAN, IT'S LIKE MCDONALD'S 297 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:42,760 RUNNING OUT OF KETCHUP. 298 00:07:42,939 --> 00:07:43,979 >> John: YEAH, THAT'S A PRETTY 299 00:07:43,980 --> 00:07:45,000 APT COMPARISON. 300 00:07:45,620 --> 00:07:47,079 A HOSPITAL WITHOUT HEPARIN IS 301 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:48,658 INDEED LIKE A MCDONALD'S WITHOUT 302 00:07:48,659 --> 00:07:49,939 KETCHUP, OR A SUBWAY WITHOUT 303 00:07:49,940 --> 00:07:51,359 BREAD, OR A CHICK-FIL-A WITHOUT 304 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:52,979 THE PERVADING UNDERCURRENT OF 305 00:07:52,980 --> 00:07:53,538 HOMOPHOBIA. 306 00:07:53,539 --> 00:07:55,559 WE'VE COME TO EXPECT CERTAIN 307 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,159 THINGS AT CERTAIN PLACES! 308 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,120 AND IT'S NOT JUST HEPARIN. 309 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,779 APPARENTLY, THERE ARE 227 ACTIVE 310 00:08:01,780 --> 00:08:03,119 DRUG SHORTAGES RIGHT NOW, AND 311 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:04,720 THAT'S INCLUDING MANY ESSENTIAL 312 00:08:04,860 --> 00:08:06,139 MEDICINES, WITH SOME THE WORST 313 00:08:06,140 --> 00:08:07,620 SHORTAGES INVOLVING STERILE 314 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:08,979 INJECTABLES-- DRUGS OFTEN USED 315 00:08:08,980 --> 00:08:11,119 IN IV BAGS THAT ARE A STAPLE OF 316 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:12,119 HOSPITAL TREATMENT. 317 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:13,120 IT'S NOW AT THE POINT THAT THE 318 00:08:13,220 --> 00:08:15,359 AMA HAS DEEMED DRUG SHORTAGES TO 319 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:16,579 BE "AN URGENT PUBLIC HEALTH 320 00:08:16,580 --> 00:08:18,439 CRISIS AND A NATIONAL SECURITY 321 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:19,139 THREAT." 322 00:08:19,140 --> 00:08:21,239 AND FOR ANYONE RELYING ON A 323 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:22,899 CERTAIN DRUG, SUDDENLY LEARNING 324 00:08:22,900 --> 00:08:24,380 OF A SHORTAGE CAN BE TERRIFYING. 325 00:08:24,660 --> 00:08:25,559 TAKE THIS WOMAN, WHOSE 326 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,158 CHEMOTHERAPY WAS DELAYED FOR 327 00:08:27,159 --> 00:08:28,255 EXACTLY THAT REASON. 328 00:08:28,256 --> 00:08:30,840 >> IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING TO KNOW 329 00:08:30,841 --> 00:08:32,461 THAT THERE'S A STANDARD OF CARE. 330 00:08:33,079 --> 00:08:34,499 THESE TWO GENERIC DRUGS, AND I 331 00:08:34,500 --> 00:08:35,339 CAN'T GET THEM. 332 00:08:35,340 --> 00:08:36,340 SOMEDAY, I'M GONNA DIE. 333 00:08:37,879 --> 00:08:40,639 I REALLY WOULD RATHER NOT DIE 334 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,699 BECAUSE THESE STANDARD GENERIC 335 00:08:42,700 --> 00:08:45,340 DRUGS WEREN'T AVAILABLE TO ME. 336 00:08:45,539 --> 00:08:48,479 AND I CAN'T IMAGINE MY FAMILY 337 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,509 HAVING THAT DOUBT, WAS IT THE 338 00:08:50,510 --> 00:08:52,079 CANCER OR WAS IT THAT THERE WAS 339 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:53,918 NOT ENOUGH CHEMOTHERAPY, AND IT 340 00:08:53,919 --> 00:08:54,737 GOT RATIONED? 341 00:08:54,738 --> 00:08:55,965 >> John: RIGHT. 342 00:08:55,966 --> 00:08:57,165 THAT'S A QUESTION NO FAMILY 343 00:08:57,166 --> 00:08:58,276 SHOULD HAVE TO ASK AFTER A LOVED 344 00:08:58,277 --> 00:08:59,799 ONE'S PASSING. 345 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:01,039 IT'S RIGHT UP THERE WITH, "WHY 346 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:02,679 DID DAD STORE ALL THESE OLD MAPS 347 00:09:02,680 --> 00:09:04,098 OF THE SAN FRANCISCO BAY AREA IN 348 00:09:04,099 --> 00:09:04,419 THE ATTIC?" 349 00:09:04,420 --> 00:09:05,640 AND "WHY DID HE HIDE THIS 350 00:09:05,788 --> 00:09:06,787 DOG-EARED GUIDE BOOK ON HOW TO 351 00:09:06,788 --> 00:09:07,639 MAKE CIPHER MESSAGES?" 352 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:08,959 AND "WHY DID HE PUT THIS OLD 353 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:10,159 PAIR OF THICK-RIM GLASSES, A 354 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:11,379 HANDGUN, AND A KNIFE IN THIS 355 00:09:11,380 --> 00:09:12,739 SHOEBOX HE MARKED WITH THE 356 00:09:12,740 --> 00:09:13,558 ZODIAC SYMBOL-- 357 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:14,559 OH, FUCK." 358 00:09:16,259 --> 00:09:18,120 AND AS YOU'RE ABOUT TO SEE, 359 00:09:18,700 --> 00:09:19,999 SUDDEN SHORTAGES ARE JUST THE 360 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:21,479 BEGINNING OF THE ISSUES HERE. 361 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:22,539 SO GIVEN THAT, TONIGHT, LET'S 362 00:09:22,540 --> 00:09:23,819 TALK ABOUT GENERIC DRUGS. 363 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:25,659 HOW THEY'RE MADE, WHERE THEY'RE 364 00:09:25,660 --> 00:09:27,219 MADE, AND WHAT THE PROBLEMS CAN 365 00:09:27,220 --> 00:09:27,459 BE. 366 00:09:27,460 --> 00:09:28,899 AND LET'S START WITH THE BASICS. 367 00:09:29,340 --> 00:09:30,539 UNDER CURRENT LAW, IF A COMPANY 368 00:09:30,540 --> 00:09:32,239 INVENTS AND PATENTS A DRUG, IT'S 369 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:33,280 ALLOWED THE EXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO 370 00:09:33,457 --> 00:09:34,201 SELL IT FOR A CERTAIN NUMBER OF 371 00:09:34,202 --> 00:09:34,976 YEARS. 372 00:09:34,977 --> 00:09:37,530 THE IDEA BEING, IT CAN THEN 373 00:09:37,531 --> 00:09:38,763 RECOUP ITS COSTS ON R&D, AS WELL 374 00:09:38,764 --> 00:09:39,681 AS, Y'KNOW, MAKE A SHIT-TON IN 375 00:09:39,682 --> 00:09:41,519 PROFIT. 376 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,620 BUT ONCE THAT PATENT EXPIRES, 377 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:45,099 GENERIC MANUFACTURERS CAN MAKE 378 00:09:45,100 --> 00:09:45,939 THEIR OWN VERSION-- AND 379 00:09:45,940 --> 00:09:47,260 USUALLY, CHARGE FAR LESS. 380 00:09:47,540 --> 00:09:49,119 TAKE-- AS IT SEEMS TO BE THE 381 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:50,900 GO-TO EXAMPLE HERE-- VIAGRA. 382 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:53,519 PFIZER INTRODUCED VIAGRA ONTO 383 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,019 THE MARKET IN 1998, AND HAD 384 00:09:55,020 --> 00:09:56,399 PATENT PROTECTIONS FOR NEARLY 385 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:57,318 TWO DECADES. 386 00:09:57,319 --> 00:09:58,818 THEN, CHEAPER GENERIC VERSIONS 387 00:09:58,819 --> 00:10:00,259 LIKE ALL THESE STARTED TO 388 00:10:00,260 --> 00:10:01,662 EMERGE, WHICH WAS GREAT NEWS FOR 389 00:10:01,663 --> 00:10:02,266 THRIFTY, HORNY GRANDPAS 390 00:10:02,267 --> 00:10:04,250 EVERYWHERE. 391 00:10:04,338 --> 00:10:06,922 SIMILARLY, WHILE OZEMPIC'S 392 00:10:06,923 --> 00:10:07,924 EXPENSIVE RIGHT NOW, CHEAPER 393 00:10:07,925 --> 00:10:09,119 GENERICS WILL PRESUMABLY COME 394 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:10,200 WHEN ITS PATENTS EXPIRE. 395 00:10:10,319 --> 00:10:11,679 AND FROM A CONSUMER COST 396 00:10:11,680 --> 00:10:13,740 PERSPECTIVE, GENERICS HAVE BEEN 397 00:10:14,339 --> 00:10:15,332 GREAT, COLLECTIVELY SAVING 398 00:10:15,333 --> 00:10:16,659 PATIENTS AND THE HEALTH CARE 399 00:10:16,660 --> 00:10:18,179 SYSTEM TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS, AND 400 00:10:18,180 --> 00:10:19,568 OFTEN SLASHING PRICES BY AS MUCH 401 00:10:19,569 --> 00:10:20,559 AS 85%. 402 00:10:20,560 --> 00:10:22,399 AND THAT'S MAINLY BECAUSE THE 403 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:23,919 MAJOR BUYERS THAT PURCHASE DRUGS 404 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:24,919 ON BEHALF OF HOSPITALS AND 405 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:25,799 PHARMACY CHAINS ARE STRONGLY 406 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,818 INCENTIVIZED TO SEEK OUT THE 407 00:10:27,819 --> 00:10:29,279 LOWEST-COST PRODUCT. 408 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,899 THE PROBLEM IS, AS PRICES GET 409 00:10:31,900 --> 00:10:33,539 DRIVEN DOWN, COMPANIES CAN 410 00:10:33,540 --> 00:10:35,519 SUDDENLY DECIDE MAKING A GENERIC 411 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:36,919 IS NO LONGER PROFITABLE ENOUGH 412 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:38,639 FOR THEM, WHICH CAN RESULT IN 413 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:39,838 WORRYINGLY FEW MANUFACTURERS 414 00:10:39,839 --> 00:10:40,879 MAKING CERTAIN DRUGS-- OR IN 415 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,139 EXTREME CASES, ONLY ONE DOING 416 00:10:43,140 --> 00:10:43,359 IT. 417 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,420 AND THAT CAN BE AN ISSUE. 418 00:10:45,819 --> 00:10:47,420 TAKE THIS STORY FROM 2019. 419 00:10:48,079 --> 00:10:50,199 >> VINCRISTINE IS ONE OF THE IV 420 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:51,869 DRUGS USED IN CHEMOTHERAPY TO 421 00:10:51,870 --> 00:10:53,979 TREAT ABOUT 85% OF PEDIATRIC 422 00:10:53,980 --> 00:10:54,980 CANCER CASES. 423 00:10:55,180 --> 00:10:56,999 BUT THIS SUMMER, TEVA, ONE OF 424 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,499 TWO U.S. COMPANIES THAT MAKES 425 00:10:58,500 --> 00:11:00,099 IT, ANNOUNCED THEY WOULD STOP 426 00:11:00,100 --> 00:11:01,540 MAKING IT, CITING A BUSINESS 427 00:11:01,910 --> 00:11:03,120 MOVE. 428 00:11:03,121 --> 00:11:03,634 >> ONLY NOW IS IT STARTING TO 429 00:11:03,635 --> 00:11:04,635 CATCH UP TO PATIENTS. 430 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,099 BRENNA'S MOM KRISTI FEARS THE 431 00:11:06,100 --> 00:11:06,587 WORST. 432 00:11:06,588 --> 00:11:07,826 >> RELAPSE, OR, IN HER CASE, NOT 433 00:11:07,915 --> 00:11:09,770 EVER BEATING THE CANCER. 434 00:11:09,771 --> 00:11:10,779 THE KIDS WHO DON'T FINISH THEIR 435 00:11:10,780 --> 00:11:11,960 TREATMENT WON'T GET A CURE. 436 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:13,539 I'M COMPLETELY DISHEARTENED THAT 437 00:11:13,540 --> 00:11:14,939 A BUSINESS DECISION STANDS TO 438 00:11:14,940 --> 00:11:17,575 KILL 15,000 KIDS A YEAR. 439 00:11:17,576 --> 00:11:18,953 >> KRISTI HOPES WITH THE HELP OF 440 00:11:18,954 --> 00:11:20,599 CELEBRITIES LIKE KEVIN BACON, 441 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,019 WHO HAS ALSO SPOKEN ABOUT THE 442 00:11:22,020 --> 00:11:23,439 DRUG SHORTAGE, SHE'LL FINALLY 443 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:24,790 START TO MAKE SOME WAVES OF 444 00:11:24,791 --> 00:11:25,384 CHANGE FOR THE SAKE OF HER 445 00:11:25,385 --> 00:11:26,563 DAUGHTER. 446 00:11:26,564 --> 00:11:27,966 >> John: LOOK, THAT'S TERRIBLE. 447 00:11:27,967 --> 00:11:29,640 AND IT'S CLEARLY ABSURD THAT 448 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:31,420 IT'S SOMEHOW UP TO KEVIN BACON 449 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,019 TO TRY AND FIX THIS. 450 00:11:33,020 --> 00:11:34,099 THOUGH-- AND I HATE TO BE A 451 00:11:34,100 --> 00:11:35,459 PETTY BITCH-- TECHNICALLY, HE 452 00:11:35,460 --> 00:11:36,680 DIDN'T POST ABOUT THAT SHORTAGE. 453 00:11:36,899 --> 00:11:38,240 HIS WIFE KYRA SEDGWICK DID. 454 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:39,959 KEVIN BACON JUST RETWEETED IT, 455 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:41,019 WHICH IS NOT THE SAME. 456 00:11:41,020 --> 00:11:42,140 STILL, I'M GLAD HE DID IT. 457 00:11:42,339 --> 00:11:43,439 MAINLY TO GET THE WORD OUT, BUT 458 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:44,760 ALSO BECAUSE IT WAS A REFRESHING 459 00:11:45,193 --> 00:11:46,794 BREAK FROM THE UNHINGED CONTENT 460 00:11:46,795 --> 00:11:47,859 THAT FILLED UP HIS FEED, LIKE 461 00:11:47,860 --> 00:11:49,259 THIS PHOTO OF HIM SHOWING OFF A 462 00:11:49,260 --> 00:11:51,399 GIANT ZUCCHINI, AND THIS VIDEO 463 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:52,473 WHERE HE MADE A NECKLACE OUT OF 464 00:11:52,474 --> 00:11:53,631 POPCORN SO THAT-- AND THIS IS 465 00:11:53,632 --> 00:11:56,159 TRUE-- A GOAT COULD SNACK ON IT 466 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:57,879 WHILE HE SERENADED IT WITH A 467 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,160 HARRY STYLES SONG. 468 00:11:59,319 --> 00:12:01,119 THE MAN'S ENTIRE TWITTER FEED 469 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:02,860 WAS AN LSD FEVER DREAM. 470 00:12:03,220 --> 00:12:05,179 THE POINT IS, WHILE I'M GLAD 471 00:12:05,180 --> 00:12:06,419 THAT KEVIN BACON-- BUT MOSTLY 472 00:12:06,420 --> 00:12:07,829 KYRA SEDGWICK-- HELPED GET THE 473 00:12:07,830 --> 00:12:09,779 WORD OUT, AND THAT WOMAN'S 474 00:12:09,780 --> 00:12:10,809 DAUGHTER WAS EVENTUALLY ABLE TO 475 00:12:10,810 --> 00:12:11,899 GET THE DRUGS SHE NEEDED, WE 476 00:12:11,900 --> 00:12:12,999 SHOULDN'T HAVE TO RELY ON 477 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:14,838 CELEBRITIES TO ENSURE ADEQUATE 478 00:12:14,839 --> 00:12:16,799 SUPPLIES OF DRUGS TO TREAT KIDS 479 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:17,800 WITH CANCER. 480 00:12:18,060 --> 00:12:19,824 BUT THE BROADER STORY THERE IS 481 00:12:19,825 --> 00:12:21,967 NOT UNCOMMON: BASICALLY, THERE 482 00:12:21,968 --> 00:12:23,317 WERE TWO COMPANIES LEFT MAKING 483 00:12:23,318 --> 00:12:25,180 THE DRUG, ONE LEFT THE MARKET 484 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:26,239 AND WHEN THE OTHER HAD A 485 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:27,600 PRODUCTION GLITCH, SUDDENLY 486 00:12:27,780 --> 00:12:28,999 THERE WAS A BIG PROBLEM. 487 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:30,818 AND THE THING IS, GLITCHES CAN 488 00:12:30,819 --> 00:12:32,218 HAPPEN IN PRODUCTION-- THAT'S 489 00:12:32,219 --> 00:12:33,259 TRUE IN DRUG MANUFACTURING 490 00:12:33,260 --> 00:12:35,318 GENERALLY, BUT EVEN MORE SO IN 491 00:12:35,319 --> 00:12:36,328 THE GENERIC SPACE, WHERE 492 00:12:36,329 --> 00:12:37,699 COMPANIES ARE IN A RACE TO MAKE 493 00:12:37,700 --> 00:12:39,359 DRUGS AT THE CHEAPEST POSSIBLE 494 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:40,078 COST. 495 00:12:40,079 --> 00:12:41,699 AND THINGS HAVE GOTTEN WORSE AS 496 00:12:41,700 --> 00:12:42,899 PRODUCTION'S INCREASINGLY MOVED 497 00:12:42,900 --> 00:12:45,039 OVERSEAS TO CHASE EVEN MORE 498 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:45,398 SAVINGS. 499 00:12:45,399 --> 00:12:47,329 IN FACT, THESE DAYS, ROUGHLY 60 500 00:12:47,330 --> 00:12:48,799 PERCENT OF PRESCRIPTION TABLETS 501 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:49,899 AND CAPSULES FOR THE U.S. MARKET 502 00:12:49,900 --> 00:12:50,900 ARE MADE IN INDIA. 503 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:52,019 AND IT'S ESTIMATED NEARLY A 504 00:12:52,020 --> 00:12:53,229 QUARTER OF OUR GENERIC DRUG 505 00:12:53,230 --> 00:12:54,779 SUPPLY CONTAINS ACTIVE 506 00:12:54,780 --> 00:12:56,019 INGREDIENTS ORIGINATED FROM 507 00:12:56,020 --> 00:12:56,499 CHINA. 508 00:12:56,500 --> 00:12:58,420 AND LOOK: I'M NOT SAYING 509 00:12:59,020 --> 00:13:00,199 MANUFACTURING DRUGS IN OTHER 510 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:01,779 COUNTRIES IS INHERENTLY BAD. 511 00:13:01,780 --> 00:13:04,059 BUT BEING THAT RELIANT ON THEM 512 00:13:04,060 --> 00:13:05,359 CAN BE A PROBLEM. 513 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:06,600 IT'S LIKE FINDING OUT 80 PERCENT 514 00:13:06,839 --> 00:13:08,439 OF AMERICA'S MILK SUPPLY COMES 515 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,159 FROM COWS PERSONALLY MILKED BY 516 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:11,232 JAVIER BARDEM. 517 00:13:11,233 --> 00:13:15,649 NOTHING AGAINST THE MAN 518 00:13:15,650 --> 00:13:16,753 PERSONALLY, BUT IF ANYTHING 519 00:13:16,754 --> 00:13:18,672 HAPPENS TO THAT BEAUTIFUL 520 00:13:18,673 --> 00:13:19,818 SPANIARD, OUR BREAKFASTS GOING 521 00:13:19,819 --> 00:13:21,800 FORWARD ARE GOING TO BE FUCKED. 522 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,059 BUT THERE'S GROWING EVIDENCE 523 00:13:25,060 --> 00:13:26,749 THAT WHERE GENERICS ARE 524 00:13:26,750 --> 00:13:28,379 MANUFACTURED CAN MAKE A 525 00:13:28,380 --> 00:13:29,019 DIFFERENCE. 526 00:13:29,020 --> 00:13:30,519 A STUDY LAST YEAR FOUND THE RISK 527 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,059 OF SERIOUS ADVERSE EVENTS WAS 528 00:13:32,060 --> 00:13:33,959 54% HIGHER WITH GENERICS MADE IN 529 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:35,559 INDIA, COMPARED WITH THOSE MADE 530 00:13:35,560 --> 00:13:36,639 HERE IN THE U.S. 531 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,039 AND RESEARCHERS WHO'VE TESTED 532 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:39,619 THEM HAVE FOUND THEY CAN VARY 533 00:13:39,620 --> 00:13:41,318 WILDLY IN QUALITY, WITH ISSUES 534 00:13:41,319 --> 00:13:43,059 RANGING FROM CONTAMINATION TO 535 00:13:43,060 --> 00:13:44,578 THE WRONG DOSAGE TO PROBLEMS 536 00:13:44,579 --> 00:13:45,619 WITH HOW THE MEDICATION 537 00:13:45,620 --> 00:13:46,519 DISSOLVES. 538 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:47,919 JUST LISTEN TO THIS WOMAN, WHO 539 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:49,219 HAD A HEART TRANSPLANT AND WAS 540 00:13:49,220 --> 00:13:50,419 RELIANT ON A DRUG CALLED 541 00:13:50,420 --> 00:13:52,160 TACROLIMUS TO STOP HER BODY 542 00:13:52,961 --> 00:13:53,960 REJECTING IT. 543 00:13:53,961 --> 00:13:54,714 SHE FOUND THAT SOME GENERIC 544 00:13:54,715 --> 00:13:56,799 VERSIONS OF THAT DRUG MADE BY 545 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:57,474 OVERSEAS COMPANIES DIDN'T WORK 546 00:13:57,475 --> 00:13:59,939 AND THAT COULD'VE HAD MASSIVE 547 00:13:59,940 --> 00:14:00,722 CONSEQUENCES. 548 00:14:00,723 --> 00:14:03,234 >> IF YOU GET A ONE-MONTH SUPPLY 549 00:14:03,235 --> 00:14:05,119 OF AN ANTI-REJECTION MEDICATION 550 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:06,359 THAT ISN'T MADE RIGHT, WHAT'S 551 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:07,350 THE CONSEQUENCE FOR YOU? 552 00:14:07,351 --> 00:14:10,138 >> DEATH. 553 00:14:10,139 --> 00:14:11,198 I WOULD DIE. 554 00:14:11,199 --> 00:14:13,015 >> TO PREVENT HER BODY FROM 555 00:14:13,016 --> 00:14:14,559 REJECTING HER NEW HEART, HER 556 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:16,459 MEDICATION LEVELS ARE SUPPOSED 557 00:14:16,460 --> 00:14:19,659 TO BE BETWEEN 6.8 AND 7.5. 558 00:14:19,660 --> 00:14:21,120 ON ONE BRAND OF GENERIC 559 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,221 TACROLIMUS, SHE TESTED AT 3.9. 560 00:14:24,222 --> 00:14:25,342 >> I WAS OPEN FOR THAT WHOLE 561 00:14:25,343 --> 00:14:27,298 WEEK FOR REJECTION. 562 00:14:27,299 --> 00:14:28,480 I'M LIKE, OH MY GOD. 563 00:14:28,799 --> 00:14:29,960 >> SHE SWITCHED TO ANOTHER 564 00:14:30,380 --> 00:14:32,039 WHICH ELEVATED HER BLOOD LEVELS 565 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,459 TO 9.9, AN OVERDOSE, LEAVING HER 566 00:14:35,460 --> 00:14:36,759 NEWLY-TRANSPLANTED HEART 567 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:38,219 VULNERABLE TO LIFE-THREATENING 568 00:14:38,220 --> 00:14:39,014 COMPLICATIONS. 569 00:14:39,015 --> 00:14:40,922 >> I STARTED SHAKING AGAIN, 570 00:14:41,060 --> 00:14:42,499 WHICH IS THE SIDE EFFECT OF 571 00:14:42,500 --> 00:14:44,399 BEING OVERDOSED ON TACROLIMUS. 572 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:45,239 YOU SHAKE. 573 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:46,859 IT IS A COMPLETE CRAPSHOOT 574 00:14:46,860 --> 00:14:48,139 WHICH ONE YOU'RE GONNA GET WHEN 575 00:14:48,140 --> 00:14:50,839 YOUR PHARMACY PICKS ONE TO GIVE 576 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:51,840 YOU. 577 00:14:51,940 --> 00:14:52,980 THAT'S FRIGHTENING. 578 00:14:53,639 --> 00:14:55,059 >> John: YEAH, OF COURSE IT IS! 579 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,039 YOU DON'T WANT YOUR LIFE-SAVING 580 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:58,319 MEDICINE TO HAVE THE SAME 581 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,279 SELLING POINT AS AN LOL SURPRISE 582 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:01,059 BALL. 583 00:15:01,060 --> 00:15:02,799 BECAUSE IT COULD BE ANYTHING IN 584 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:02,919 THERE! 585 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:04,000 IT COULD BE KITTY QUEEN. 586 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,029 OR COCONUT Q.T. 587 00:15:06,030 --> 00:15:07,219 OR STEVE BUSCEMI! 588 00:15:07,220 --> 00:15:09,359 AND WHILE, OBVIOUSLY, SOME VERY 589 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,339 SPECIFIC LITTLE WEIRD GIRL WILL 590 00:15:11,340 --> 00:15:14,079 LOVE THAT, WHEN IT COMES TO YOUR 591 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:15,079 MEDICINE BOTTLE, YOU WANT A 592 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:16,038 HIGHER DEGREE OF CERTAINTY 593 00:15:16,039 --> 00:15:17,479 REGARDING WHAT'S INSIDE. 594 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,279 BUT UNFORTUNATELY, TOO OFTEN 595 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:20,540 THAT'S NOT THE CASE. 596 00:15:20,860 --> 00:15:22,359 IN FACT, WHEN THE D.O.D HAD AN 597 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:23,238 INDEPENDENT LAB TEST THE 598 00:15:23,239 --> 00:15:24,779 MILITARY'S MOST CRITICAL DRUGS, 599 00:15:24,980 --> 00:15:26,079 OUT OF THE FIRST GROUP THEY 600 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:27,999 LOOKED AT, 15 PERCENT OF 601 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:29,420 SUPPLIERS SCORED "RED," MEANING 602 00:15:29,540 --> 00:15:31,219 THEIR PRODUCT HAD "MAJOR QUALITY 603 00:15:31,220 --> 00:15:31,959 CONCERNS." 604 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:33,440 AND WHEN IT CAME TO TACROLIMUS, 605 00:15:33,620 --> 00:15:34,639 THE MEDICATION THAT WOMAN WAS 606 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,039 TAKING TO STOP HER BODY HITTING 607 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:37,680 "EJECT" ON HER NEW HEART, 608 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,139 ONE-THIRD OF SAMPLES TESTED RED. 609 00:15:40,140 --> 00:15:41,180 WHICH IS NOT GOOD. 610 00:15:41,340 --> 00:15:43,499 AND THE HARMS OF POORLY-MADE 611 00:15:43,500 --> 00:15:45,260 DRUGS AREN'T JUST THEORETICAL. 612 00:15:45,420 --> 00:15:46,659 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HURT. 613 00:15:46,660 --> 00:15:48,259 TAKE WHAT HAPPENED A FEW YEARS 614 00:15:48,260 --> 00:15:49,539 BACK WITH SOMETHING AS SIMPLE 615 00:15:49,540 --> 00:15:51,080 AS GENERIC, OVER-THE-COUNTER 616 00:15:51,081 --> 00:15:52,081 EYEDROPS. 617 00:15:52,209 --> 00:15:53,822 >> SHE SAID, YOU HAVE AN ULCER 618 00:15:53,823 --> 00:15:55,505 ON YOUR EYE, AND IF WE DON'T GET 619 00:15:55,506 --> 00:15:56,418 THIS UNDER CONTROL, YOU WILL 620 00:15:56,419 --> 00:15:57,720 LOSE ALL YOUR VISION. 621 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,740 >> IN 2023, FOUR PEOPLE DIED, 622 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:02,459 FOUR HAD TO HAVE THEIR EYES 623 00:16:02,460 --> 00:16:06,639 REMOVED, 14 LOST VISION, AND 114 624 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,039 SUFFERED INFECTIONS FROM 625 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:09,806 CONTAMINATED EYE DROPS MADE IN 626 00:16:09,807 --> 00:16:11,245 INDIA. 627 00:16:11,246 --> 00:16:12,724 >> John: HOLY SHIT. 628 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:14,819 ANYTIME YOU HEAR ABOUT SOMEONE 629 00:16:14,820 --> 00:16:16,259 GETTING THEIR EYES REMOVED-- 630 00:16:16,260 --> 00:16:17,959 AND THAT SOMEONE ISN'T 631 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,720 MR. POTATO HEAD —- IT'S 632 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:22,578 AUTOMATICALLY HORRIFYING. 633 00:16:22,579 --> 00:16:24,159 AND AT THIS POINT, YOU MIGHT BE 634 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:25,659 THINKING, "WHERE THE FUCK IS THE 635 00:16:25,660 --> 00:16:26,720 FDA IN ALL THIS? 636 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:27,919 AREN'T THEY SUPPOSED TO BE 637 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:29,479 MAKING SURE THAT NO ONE HAS TO 638 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:30,940 GET THEIR EYEBALLS REMOVED?" 639 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,039 WELL, THEY ARE INDEED TASKED 640 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:34,299 WITH REVIEWING GENERIC DRUGS 641 00:16:34,300 --> 00:16:35,439 AND INSPECTING FACTORIES TO 642 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:36,619 MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S SAFE. 643 00:16:36,620 --> 00:16:38,479 BUT UNFORTUNATELY THE AGENCY 644 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,070 ISN'T RESOURCED OR STAFFED 645 00:16:40,071 --> 00:16:41,674 REMOTELY WELL ENOUGH TO DO THAT 646 00:16:41,675 --> 00:16:44,133 REGULARLY, ESPECIALLY GIVEN SO 647 00:16:44,134 --> 00:16:44,882 MANY FACTORIES ARE NOW HALFWAY 648 00:16:44,883 --> 00:16:45,419 AROUND THE WORLD. 649 00:16:45,420 --> 00:16:46,739 AND WHAT THAT MEANS IN PRACTICE 650 00:16:46,740 --> 00:16:48,819 IS, YEARS CAN PASS BETWEEN 651 00:16:48,820 --> 00:16:49,539 INSPECTIONS. 652 00:16:49,540 --> 00:16:51,559 AND EVEN WHEN THE FDA DOES SHOW 653 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:52,739 UP TO A FACTORY OVERSEAS, SOME 654 00:16:52,740 --> 00:16:54,139 COMPANIES HAVE TRIED TO OBSCURE 655 00:16:54,140 --> 00:16:54,999 ANY PROBLEMS. 656 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,399 JUST TAKE WHAT HAPPENED AT A 657 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:57,539 FACTORY IN INDIA RUN BY A 658 00:16:57,540 --> 00:16:58,540 COMPANY CALLED INTAS. 659 00:16:58,669 --> 00:17:01,235 >> FDA INSPECTORS FOUND A 660 00:17:01,236 --> 00:17:03,316 CASCADE OF FAILURE, INCLUDING A 661 00:17:03,317 --> 00:17:05,328 WORKER THROWING ACID INTO A 662 00:17:05,329 --> 00:17:05,953 TRASH BIN TO DESTROY TEST 663 00:17:05,954 --> 00:17:07,999 RECORDS. 664 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,359 >> John: WOW, THAT LOOKS BAD. 665 00:17:09,679 --> 00:17:11,519 BECAUSE LET ME BE CLEAR, THERE'S 666 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,158 PLENTY OF GOOD USES FOR ACID. 667 00:17:13,159 --> 00:17:14,379 YOU CAN USE IT TO NEUTRALIZE 668 00:17:14,380 --> 00:17:15,719 EXCESS ALKALINITY IN A CHEMICAL 669 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,259 SOLUTION, OR TO INCREASE 670 00:17:17,260 --> 00:17:18,999 HYDROGEN ION CONCENTRATION, OR 671 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:20,578 TO MELT ALL OF MANCHESTER CITY'S 672 00:17:20,579 --> 00:17:21,579 PREMIER LEAGUE TITLE MEDALS. 673 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,999 BUT DESTROYING CRITICAL DRUG 674 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,039 TEST RESULTS IS NOT ONE OF THEM. 675 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:27,678 AND ON TOP OF THAT, YOU SHOULD 676 00:17:27,679 --> 00:17:29,059 KNOW-- WHILE SURPRISE FDA 677 00:17:29,060 --> 00:17:30,741 INSPECTIONS ARE COMMON FOR U.S. 678 00:17:30,742 --> 00:17:31,776 FACTORIES, MOST INSPECTIONS DONE 679 00:17:31,777 --> 00:17:33,624 OVERSEAS ARE ACTUALLY ANNOUNCED 680 00:17:33,736 --> 00:17:35,307 BEFOREHAND, ALLOWING 681 00:17:35,679 --> 00:17:36,859 MANUFACTURERS TO BOTH PREPARE 682 00:17:36,860 --> 00:17:38,379 FOR THEM AND POTENTIALLY HIDE 683 00:17:38,380 --> 00:17:38,819 ANY ISSUES. 684 00:17:38,820 --> 00:17:40,638 IN FACT, ONE STUDY FOUND THE 685 00:17:40,639 --> 00:17:42,719 ODDS OF A FACILITY RECEIVING THE 686 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,138 MOST SEVERE INSPECTION OUTCOME 687 00:17:44,139 --> 00:17:46,859 ARE OVER 250% HIGHER FOR 688 00:17:46,860 --> 00:17:47,838 UNANNOUNCED INSPECTIONS. 689 00:17:47,839 --> 00:17:49,079 WHICH MAKES SENSE. 690 00:17:49,340 --> 00:17:50,899 YOU CLEAN UP WHEN YOU KNOW 691 00:17:50,900 --> 00:17:52,079 PEOPLE ARE COMING OVER. 692 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:54,779 THE ONLY REASON THIS STUDIO'S SO 693 00:17:54,780 --> 00:17:56,039 CLEAN IS BECAUSE I KNEW YOU WERE 694 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:57,080 ALL COMING HERE TODAY. 695 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:58,939 OTHERWISE, THIS PLACE WOULD BE A 696 00:17:58,940 --> 00:18:00,419 COMPLETE PIGSTY, AND I MEAN 697 00:18:00,420 --> 00:18:01,158 THAT LITERALLY. 698 00:18:01,159 --> 00:18:02,658 I RUN A WET MARKET HERE THE REST 699 00:18:02,659 --> 00:18:03,419 OF THE WEEK. 700 00:18:03,420 --> 00:18:05,539 I'M JUST TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF 701 00:18:05,540 --> 00:18:06,980 ANY PARAMOUNT BUDGET CUTS. 702 00:18:07,540 --> 00:18:09,519 AND WHEN THE FDA HAS ACTUALLY 703 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,060 DONE UNANNOUNCED INSPECTIONS, 704 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:12,580 THE RESULTS HAVE SOMETIMES BEEN 705 00:18:12,740 --> 00:18:13,405 TERRIFYING. 706 00:18:13,406 --> 00:18:15,646 >> INVESTIGATORS CITED HETERO, A 707 00:18:15,647 --> 00:18:18,086 MAJOR MAKER OF HIV, CANCER, AND 708 00:18:18,087 --> 00:18:20,098 NEUROLOGICAL DRUGS, FOR RUNNING 709 00:18:20,099 --> 00:18:22,820 AN UNREGISTERED TESTING LAB 710 00:18:23,239 --> 00:18:25,299 AND, SOMEWHERE IN THIS VILLAGE, 711 00:18:25,580 --> 00:18:27,479 STORING CRITICAL INGREDIENTS IN 712 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:28,820 AN UNDISCLOSED WAREHOUSE. 713 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:30,840 WHEN FDA INSPECTORS ARRIVED, 714 00:18:31,060 --> 00:18:32,859 WORKERS RAN AND LOCKED THE 715 00:18:32,860 --> 00:18:35,219 GATES, REFUSING ENTRY FOR TWO 716 00:18:35,220 --> 00:18:35,899 HOURS. 717 00:18:35,900 --> 00:18:37,919 ONCE INSIDE, INSPECTORS FOUND 718 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,099 BIRD DROPPINGS ON STORAGE UNITS 719 00:18:40,100 --> 00:18:42,259 AND LIZARDS AND CATS AMONG 720 00:18:42,260 --> 00:18:43,560 ACTIVE PHARMACEUTICAL 721 00:18:43,780 --> 00:18:44,446 INGREDIENTS. 722 00:18:44,447 --> 00:18:46,440 >> John: WOW. 723 00:18:46,441 --> 00:18:47,961 THERE IS SO MUCH THERE, I DON'T 724 00:18:47,962 --> 00:18:49,482 EVEN HAVE TIME TO GET INTO THE 725 00:18:49,483 --> 00:18:51,744 FACT THAT THE COMPANY'S CALLED 726 00:18:51,745 --> 00:18:53,079 HETERO, WHICH SOUNDS LIKE THE 727 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:54,359 NAME OF A FITNESS STUDIO PETE 728 00:18:54,360 --> 00:18:56,199 HEGSETH WILL OPEN AFTER HE 729 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:57,620 LEAVES THE DEFENSE DEPARTMENT. 730 00:18:58,020 --> 00:18:59,699 AND YES, PETE, THAT IS A GREAT 731 00:18:59,700 --> 00:19:01,820 LOGO, AND NO, YOU CAN'T HAVE IT. 732 00:19:02,780 --> 00:19:04,499 BUT CLEARLY, YOU WANT TO BE ABLE 733 00:19:04,500 --> 00:19:05,678 TO ASSUME YOUR MEDICATION'S 734 00:19:05,679 --> 00:19:06,899 BEING HANDLED IN PRISTINE 735 00:19:06,900 --> 00:19:08,740 CONDITIONS WITH HIGH SAFETY 736 00:19:09,154 --> 00:19:10,337 STANDARDS, NOT IN A 737 00:19:10,338 --> 00:19:11,301 LIZARD-AND-CAT-INFESTED BIRD 738 00:19:11,302 --> 00:19:12,403 TOILET. 739 00:19:12,404 --> 00:19:13,404 AND IF YOU'RE THINKING, "I 740 00:19:13,500 --> 00:19:14,799 DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE THAT LIZARDS 741 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:15,980 AND CATS HANG OUT TOGETHER!" 742 00:19:16,500 --> 00:19:17,999 THEN YOU'RE CLEARLY UNAWARE OF 743 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,699 JUNIOR AND ATLAS, A REAL 744 00:19:19,700 --> 00:19:20,899 LIZARD-AND-CAT DUO WHO LIVE 745 00:19:20,900 --> 00:19:22,428 TOGETHER IN AN APARTMENT AND, 746 00:19:22,429 --> 00:19:23,428 CRUCIALLY, ARE BEST FRIENDS. 747 00:19:23,429 --> 00:19:23,999 TAKE A LOOK. 748 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:24,805 >> ATLAS WANTS TO RUB UP AGAINST 749 00:19:24,806 --> 00:19:30,049 HIM. 750 00:19:30,050 --> 00:19:31,929 ATLAS, I DON'T THINK HE WANTS TO 751 00:19:31,930 --> 00:19:32,930 LOVE ON YOU TODAY. 752 00:19:33,509 --> 00:19:34,809 SHE WANTS TO FOLLOW HIM. 753 00:19:36,350 --> 00:19:38,429 SHE WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT HE'S 754 00:19:38,430 --> 00:19:39,850 GOING WHERE SHE WANTS TO GO. 755 00:19:39,970 --> 00:19:41,989 THE NEATEST THING TO SEE IS WHAT 756 00:19:41,990 --> 00:19:45,009 THEY ENJOY DOING TOGETHER, AND 757 00:19:45,010 --> 00:19:46,709 THEIR FRIENDSHIP AS THEY GET 758 00:19:46,710 --> 00:19:47,548 OLDER, TOO. 759 00:19:47,549 --> 00:19:49,068 THEY'RE IN LOVE WITH EACH OTHER. 760 00:19:49,069 --> 00:19:50,540 >> John: WHAT A BEAUTIFUL 761 00:19:50,541 --> 00:19:52,648 FRIENDSHIP FULL OF LOVE, JOY, 762 00:19:52,649 --> 00:19:54,289 AND A PALPABLE SEXUAL TENSION. 763 00:19:54,810 --> 00:19:56,449 IS IT JUST ME, OR ARE THEY 764 00:19:56,450 --> 00:19:58,088 GIVING OFF STRONG "WILL THEY OR 765 00:19:58,089 --> 00:19:59,109 WON'T THEY" VIBES? 766 00:19:59,110 --> 00:20:01,329 ANYWAY, AT THIS POINT, YOU MIGHT 767 00:20:01,330 --> 00:20:02,229 BE THINKING, "WELL, IF THINGS 768 00:20:02,230 --> 00:20:04,388 ARE REALLY BAD, THE FDA BANS 769 00:20:04,389 --> 00:20:05,810 IMPORTS FROM FACTORIES THAT FAIL 770 00:20:06,491 --> 00:20:07,492 INSPECTIONS, RIGHT?" 771 00:20:07,493 --> 00:20:09,009 WELL, SORT OF. 772 00:20:09,010 --> 00:20:10,888 THE PROBLEM IS, WITH SO FEW 773 00:20:10,889 --> 00:20:12,408 MANUFACTURERS MAKING CERTAIN 774 00:20:12,409 --> 00:20:14,388 DRUGS, BANS CAN LEAD TO CRITICAL 775 00:20:14,389 --> 00:20:15,069 SHORTAGES. 776 00:20:15,070 --> 00:20:16,729 SO WHAT THE FDA WILL SOMETIMES 777 00:20:16,730 --> 00:20:18,529 DO IS CREATE "CARVE-OUTS" FOR 778 00:20:18,530 --> 00:20:19,870 CERTAIN DRUGS IN SHORT SUPPLY, 779 00:20:20,010 --> 00:20:21,849 EVEN IF THEY'RE COMING FROM A 780 00:20:21,850 --> 00:20:23,009 FACTORY WITH KNOWN QUALITY 781 00:20:23,010 --> 00:20:23,749 ISSUES. 782 00:20:23,750 --> 00:20:25,290 TAKE WHAT HAPPENED AT THAT INTAS 783 00:20:25,389 --> 00:20:26,949 FACTORY WHERE WORKERS WERE 784 00:20:26,950 --> 00:20:28,450 POURING ACID ON TEST RESULTS. 785 00:20:28,789 --> 00:20:30,970 PRODUCTION THERE GOT SUSPENDED. 786 00:20:31,509 --> 00:20:33,729 BUT THAT HAD REAL CONSEQUENCES, 787 00:20:33,730 --> 00:20:35,049 BECAUSE THAT FACTORY MADE, AMONG 788 00:20:35,050 --> 00:20:37,408 OTHER THINGS, 50 PERCENT OF THE 789 00:20:37,409 --> 00:20:38,609 CRITICAL CHEMOTHERAPY DRUG 790 00:20:38,610 --> 00:20:40,449 CISPLATIN USED IN THE U.S. 791 00:20:40,610 --> 00:20:42,689 THAT'S WHAT LED TO THE DRUG 792 00:20:42,690 --> 00:20:44,009 SHORTAGE THAT WOMAN WAS TALKING 793 00:20:44,010 --> 00:20:44,789 ABOUT EARLIER. 794 00:20:44,790 --> 00:20:46,369 AND IT WASN'T EVEN THE ONLY 795 00:20:46,370 --> 00:20:48,130 INTAS FACTORY WITH PROBLEMS. 796 00:20:48,310 --> 00:20:50,529 THAT SAME YEAR, ANOTHER PLANT 797 00:20:50,530 --> 00:20:51,749 FAILED INSPECTION AND THE FDA 798 00:20:51,750 --> 00:20:54,009 BARRED BOTH FROM SHIPPING DRUGS 799 00:20:54,010 --> 00:20:54,948 TO THE U.S. 800 00:20:54,949 --> 00:20:56,329 BUT HERE'S THE THING: BECAUSE IT 801 00:20:56,455 --> 00:20:59,129 WAS SO WORRIED ABOUT CREATING 802 00:20:59,130 --> 00:21:00,168 SHORTAGES, THE FDA 803 00:21:00,169 --> 00:21:01,489 SIMULTANEOUSLY GRANTED THOSE 804 00:21:01,490 --> 00:21:02,550 FACTORIES MORE THAN 50 805 00:21:03,030 --> 00:21:04,029 EXEMPTIONS, MEANING THEY COULD 806 00:21:04,030 --> 00:21:05,750 KEEP SENDING CERTAIN DRUGS HERE. 807 00:21:06,070 --> 00:21:07,069 NOW, THE FDA SAYS THOSE 808 00:21:07,070 --> 00:21:08,070 CARVEOUTS CAME WITH REQUIREMENTS 809 00:21:08,190 --> 00:21:10,669 THAT INTAS HIRE "THIRD-PARTY" 810 00:21:10,670 --> 00:21:12,669 EXPERTS TO DO ADDITIONAL SAFETY 811 00:21:12,670 --> 00:21:14,369 TESTING, AND INTAS INSISTS IT 812 00:21:14,370 --> 00:21:14,709 DID THAT. 813 00:21:14,710 --> 00:21:16,549 BUT IT'S A LITTLE WEIRD TO 814 00:21:16,550 --> 00:21:18,029 HAPPILY TRUST A MANUFACTURER 815 00:21:18,030 --> 00:21:18,789 WITH THAT LEVEL OF 816 00:21:18,790 --> 00:21:19,669 RESPONSIBILITY WHEN YOU'VE 817 00:21:19,670 --> 00:21:21,469 ALREADY, Y'KNOW, CAUGHT THEM 818 00:21:21,470 --> 00:21:22,880 DOUSING TEST RECORDS WITH 819 00:21:22,881 --> 00:21:24,449 FUCKING ACID. 820 00:21:24,450 --> 00:21:27,529 AND ALL OF THIS IS OBVIOUSLY 821 00:21:27,530 --> 00:21:29,869 VERY WORRYING-- OR IT WOULD BE, 822 00:21:29,870 --> 00:21:31,709 IF IT WAS MORE WIDELY KNOWN. 823 00:21:31,710 --> 00:21:33,829 BUT THE FDA'S ACTUALLY KEPT ITS 824 00:21:34,050 --> 00:21:35,388 DRUG EXEMPTIONS LARGELY HIDDEN 825 00:21:35,389 --> 00:21:36,428 FROM THE PUBLIC AND FROM 826 00:21:36,429 --> 00:21:37,809 CONGRESS, WITH THE AGENCY'S 827 00:21:37,810 --> 00:21:38,729 FORMER TOP DRUG OFFICIAL 828 00:21:38,730 --> 00:21:40,169 JUSTIFYING THAT BY SAYING THE 829 00:21:40,170 --> 00:21:41,769 INFORMATION WOULD HAVE CAUSED 830 00:21:41,770 --> 00:21:43,290 "SOME KIND OF FRENZY." 831 00:21:43,649 --> 00:21:45,928 BUT THAT FRENZY WOULD'VE BEEN 832 00:21:45,929 --> 00:21:46,969 FOR A REASON. 833 00:21:46,970 --> 00:21:49,269 BECAUSE I ADMIT, SOMETIMES WHAT 834 00:21:49,270 --> 00:21:50,529 YOU DON'T KNOW REALLY DOESN'T 835 00:21:50,530 --> 00:21:51,614 HURT YOU-- LIKE THE FACT THE 836 00:21:51,615 --> 00:21:52,326 McRIB IS ACTUALLY MADE OUT OF 837 00:21:52,327 --> 00:21:53,868 SQUIRREL MEAT. 838 00:21:53,869 --> 00:21:56,789 BUT THIS IS NOT THAT. 839 00:21:57,210 --> 00:21:59,888 NOW, THE FDA INSISTS IT WORKS TO 840 00:21:59,889 --> 00:22:01,229 ENSURE ALL DRUGS MEET A HIGH 841 00:22:01,230 --> 00:22:02,189 STANDARD, AND THAT THEY 842 00:22:02,190 --> 00:22:03,709 "RECOGNIZE AREAS WHERE OUR 843 00:22:03,710 --> 00:22:04,908 AUTHORITY COULD BE STRENGTHENED 844 00:22:04,909 --> 00:22:06,049 AND ARE ACTIVELY WORKING TO 845 00:22:06,050 --> 00:22:06,589 ADDRESS THIS." 846 00:22:06,590 --> 00:22:09,489 AND TO BE FAIR TO THE FDA, RIGHT 847 00:22:09,490 --> 00:22:11,090 NOW THIS IS A STRUGGLE. 848 00:22:11,590 --> 00:22:12,678 THEY'RE HAVING TO PLAY WHAC A 849 00:22:12,679 --> 00:22:13,679 MOLE WITH 850 00:22:16,789 --> 00:22:18,628 CERTAIN DRUGS ARE CRITICAL, SO 851 00:22:18,629 --> 00:22:19,089 THESE. 852 00:22:19,090 --> 00:22:19,989 YOU DON'T WANT THERE TO BE A 853 00:22:19,990 --> 00:22:20,709 SHORTAGE. 854 00:22:20,710 --> 00:22:21,869 AND WHILE YOU OBVIOUSLY DON'T 855 00:22:21,870 --> 00:22:22,908 WANT DRUGS COMING OUT OF 856 00:22:22,909 --> 00:22:24,350 DANGEROUS FACTORIES, YOU ALSO 857 00:22:24,709 --> 00:22:26,309 DON'T WANT TO SCARE PEOPLE AWAY 858 00:22:26,310 --> 00:22:27,109 FROM TAKING THEIR MEDS 859 00:22:27,110 --> 00:22:27,669 ALTOGETHER. 860 00:22:27,670 --> 00:22:29,309 IN FACT, EVEN A FORMER FDA 861 00:22:29,310 --> 00:22:30,549 INSPECTOR ADMITTED, WHEN 862 00:22:30,550 --> 00:22:31,550 TESTIFYING TO CONGRESS-- 863 00:22:31,870 --> 00:22:33,109 THERE'VE BEEN TIMES WHEN HE'S 864 00:22:33,110 --> 00:22:34,648 PRIORITIZED KEEPING PEOPLE CALM 865 00:22:34,649 --> 00:22:35,869 OVER TELLING THEM THE WHOLE 866 00:22:35,870 --> 00:22:36,275 TRUTH. 867 00:22:36,276 --> 00:22:38,610 >> YOU DON'T WANT TO CAUSE 868 00:22:38,611 --> 00:22:39,729 UNNECESSARY PANIC IN SOMEONE. 869 00:22:39,730 --> 00:22:40,888 AND YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE 870 00:22:40,889 --> 00:22:42,810 ASK ME BEFORE THEY'LL TAKE IT, 871 00:22:43,030 --> 00:22:44,189 THEY'LL GIVE ME A CALL OR SEND 872 00:22:44,190 --> 00:22:45,509 ME AN EMAIL LIKE, "HEY, WHAT DO 873 00:22:45,510 --> 00:22:46,408 YOU THINK ABOUT THIS ONE?" 874 00:22:46,409 --> 00:22:47,408 AND I'LL GIVE THEM ADVICE. 875 00:22:47,409 --> 00:22:48,788 AND TO BE HONEST, OVER THE 876 00:22:48,789 --> 00:22:50,449 YEARS, SOMETIMES I HAVE TO FAKE 877 00:22:50,450 --> 00:22:52,069 THAT ADVICE, BECAUSE I KNOW 878 00:22:52,070 --> 00:22:54,668 THERE'S NO ALTERNATIVE, AND I'LL 879 00:22:54,669 --> 00:22:55,629 HAVE TO JUST SEND A POSITIVE 880 00:22:55,630 --> 00:22:58,648 EMAIL WHEN IN FACT, INSIDE, I 881 00:22:58,649 --> 00:23:00,790 KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT THE TRUTH. 882 00:23:00,877 --> 00:23:02,780 >> John: YEAH, THAT'S NOT GREAT. 883 00:23:02,870 --> 00:23:04,129 AND A TELEVISED CONGRESSIONAL 884 00:23:04,130 --> 00:23:06,029 COMMITTEE IS A HELL OF A TIME TO 885 00:23:06,030 --> 00:23:07,030 COME CLEAN ABOUT THAT. 886 00:23:07,409 --> 00:23:09,629 JUST SPARE A THOUGHT FOR ANY OF 887 00:23:09,630 --> 00:23:11,669 HIS FRIENDS WATCHING WHO'D SENT 888 00:23:11,670 --> 00:23:12,749 HIM ONE OF THOSE EMAILS. 889 00:23:12,750 --> 00:23:13,750 YOU'RE RELAXING AT HOME 890 00:23:13,850 --> 00:23:15,169 WATCHING A CONGRESSIONAL HEARING 891 00:23:15,170 --> 00:23:16,469 ON THE GENERIC DRUG SUPPLY 892 00:23:16,470 --> 00:23:18,530 CHAIN, AS WE ALL LIKE TO DO, AND 893 00:23:18,670 --> 00:23:20,269 YOU'RE JUST ABOUT TO PUT A PILL 894 00:23:20,270 --> 00:23:21,949 IN YOUR MOUTH WHEN SUDDENLY HE 895 00:23:21,950 --> 00:23:22,733 SAYS THAT SHIT. 896 00:23:22,734 --> 00:23:24,669 WHAT THE FUCK, PETER? 897 00:23:24,670 --> 00:23:26,250 YOU LIED TO ME! 898 00:23:27,370 --> 00:23:28,928 SO, WHAT DO WE DO? 899 00:23:28,929 --> 00:23:30,189 WELL, UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S NO 900 00:23:30,190 --> 00:23:31,690 ONE BIG SOLUTION HERE. 901 00:23:31,909 --> 00:23:33,189 INSTEAD, EXPERTS POINT TO A LOT 902 00:23:33,190 --> 00:23:34,089 OF PARTIAL ONES. 903 00:23:34,090 --> 00:23:35,310 FOR INSTANCE, FOR OUR MOST 904 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:36,638 IMPORTANT MEDICINES, WE MAY WANT 905 00:23:36,639 --> 00:23:37,941 TO CONSIDER ONSHORING OR EVEN 906 00:23:37,942 --> 00:23:39,622 "FRIEND-SHORING" PRODUCTION OF 907 00:23:40,470 --> 00:23:41,529 THOSE DRUGS AND THEIR ACTIVE 908 00:23:41,530 --> 00:23:42,908 INGREDIENTS, MEANING WE CHOOSE 909 00:23:42,909 --> 00:23:44,349 TO PRODUCE THEM OURSELVES, OR 910 00:23:44,350 --> 00:23:45,670 ENSURE THAT ALLIED COUNTRIES DO 911 00:23:45,863 --> 00:23:47,083 IT. 912 00:23:47,084 --> 00:23:48,359 THAT MIGHT BE WISE, IN CASE WE 913 00:23:48,360 --> 00:23:49,934 EVER HAVE, I DUNNO, A CRAZY 914 00:23:49,935 --> 00:23:51,128 PRESIDENT WHO STARTS A MASSIVE 915 00:23:51,129 --> 00:23:52,128 TRADE WAR WITH CHINA FOR NO 916 00:23:52,129 --> 00:23:52,789 FUCKING REASON. 917 00:23:52,790 --> 00:23:54,129 BUT DON'T WORRY, I CAN'T SEE 918 00:23:54,130 --> 00:23:55,130 THAT EVER HAPPENING. 919 00:23:55,889 --> 00:23:57,029 MEANWHILE, WHEN IT COMES TO 920 00:23:57,030 --> 00:23:58,729 OVERSEAS FACTORIES, WE SHOULD 921 00:23:58,730 --> 00:24:00,769 PROBABLY BE MAKING SURE THE FDA 922 00:24:00,770 --> 00:24:02,408 HAS ENOUGH RESOURCES TO PROPERLY 923 00:24:02,409 --> 00:24:04,249 INSPECT THEM, AND TO TEST DRUGS 924 00:24:04,250 --> 00:24:05,969 FROM MANUFACTURERS OF PARTICULAR 925 00:24:05,970 --> 00:24:06,589 CONCERN. 926 00:24:06,590 --> 00:24:08,849 TO ITS CREDIT, THE FDA PROMISED 927 00:24:08,850 --> 00:24:10,669 LAST YEAR TO DO MORE SURPRISE 928 00:24:10,670 --> 00:24:11,670 INSPECTIONS OVERSEAS. 929 00:24:12,309 --> 00:24:14,149 THOUGH RECENT LAYOFFS THERE WILL 930 00:24:14,150 --> 00:24:15,269 PROBABLY COMPLICATE THOSE 931 00:24:15,270 --> 00:24:16,009 EFFORTS, ESPECIALLY GIVEN 932 00:24:16,010 --> 00:24:17,209 "DOZENS OF PEOPLE WHO HELP 933 00:24:17,210 --> 00:24:18,169 COORDINATE TRAVEL FOR 934 00:24:18,170 --> 00:24:19,309 INVESTIGATIONS LIKE THAT HAVE 935 00:24:19,310 --> 00:24:20,189 BEEN LET GO." 936 00:24:20,190 --> 00:24:21,689 WHICH IS BOTH VERY STUPID, AND 937 00:24:21,690 --> 00:24:23,710 COMPLETELY UNSURPRISING, GIVEN 938 00:24:23,949 --> 00:24:25,189 IT FEELS LIKE RFK'S ULTIMATE 939 00:24:25,190 --> 00:24:26,729 VISION FOR THE FDA IS JUST ONE 940 00:24:26,730 --> 00:24:28,249 SMALL OFFICE WHERE A RABID BEAR 941 00:24:28,250 --> 00:24:29,609 DOES PULL-UPS ALL DAY. 942 00:24:30,990 --> 00:24:33,569 AS FOR WHAT YOU CAN DO AS A 943 00:24:33,570 --> 00:24:34,829 CONSUMER, WELL, THE FIRST THING 944 00:24:34,830 --> 00:24:36,249 I SHOULD SAY IS-- AND I KNOW 945 00:24:36,250 --> 00:24:37,250 THIS IS GOING TO SOUND 946 00:24:37,713 --> 00:24:38,720 RIDICULOUS GIVEN EVERYTHING 947 00:24:38,721 --> 00:24:40,668 YOU'VE SEEN SO FAR-- IF YOU'RE 948 00:24:40,669 --> 00:24:41,669 TAKING A DRUG, IT "IS" REALLY 949 00:24:42,870 --> 00:24:44,249 IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO KEEP DOING 950 00:24:44,250 --> 00:24:44,829 THAT. 951 00:24:44,830 --> 00:24:46,809 THE MAJORITY OF GENERICS ARE 952 00:24:46,810 --> 00:24:47,149 SAFE. 953 00:24:47,150 --> 00:24:48,969 THE LAST HEADLINE ANYONE NEEDS 954 00:24:48,970 --> 00:24:50,529 RIGHT NOW IS "SOAP OPERA STAR 955 00:24:50,530 --> 00:24:52,169 JOHN OLIVER TELLS AUDIENCE TO 956 00:24:52,170 --> 00:24:53,408 STOP TAKING THEIR MEDS." 957 00:24:53,409 --> 00:24:55,149 BECAUSE ONLY THE FIRST PART OF 958 00:24:55,150 --> 00:24:56,150 THAT IS TRUE. 959 00:24:57,290 --> 00:24:59,469 THAT SAID, IT IS WORTH PAYING 960 00:24:59,470 --> 00:25:00,729 CLOSER ATTENTION TO WHAT YOU'RE 961 00:25:00,730 --> 00:25:02,209 TAKING-- AND THAT'S ADVICE SOME 962 00:25:02,210 --> 00:25:03,868 DOCTORS, LIKE THIS ONE, HAVE 963 00:25:03,869 --> 00:25:05,019 FOUND THEMSELVES GIVING. 964 00:25:05,020 --> 00:25:06,089 >> YEARS AGO, I DIDN'T KNOW 965 00:25:06,090 --> 00:25:08,229 THIS, AND PEOPLE WOULD COME IN 966 00:25:08,230 --> 00:25:09,709 AND THEY MAYBE HAVE BEEN STABLE 967 00:25:09,710 --> 00:25:11,149 ON THEIR MEDICATION FOR YEARS 968 00:25:11,150 --> 00:25:12,139 AND YEARS, AND THEN THEY COME IN 969 00:25:12,140 --> 00:25:13,169 AND THEY SAY, "I DON'T KNOW 970 00:25:13,170 --> 00:25:14,549 WHAT'S GOING ON, I'M HAVING A 971 00:25:14,550 --> 00:25:15,849 LOT MORE ANXIETY, OR I'M GETTING 972 00:25:15,850 --> 00:25:17,129 HEADACHES OR STOMACHACHES." 973 00:25:17,130 --> 00:25:18,948 NOW, YEARS, AGO, I USED TO PROBE 974 00:25:18,949 --> 00:25:20,109 WITH THOSE QUESTIONS, "WHAT'S 975 00:25:20,110 --> 00:25:20,928 GOING ON?" 976 00:25:20,929 --> 00:25:21,929 REALLY ASKING A BUNCH OF 977 00:25:22,062 --> 00:25:22,766 QUESTIONS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S 978 00:25:22,767 --> 00:25:23,729 HAPPENING. 979 00:25:23,730 --> 00:25:25,469 NOW, THE FIRST QUESTION I ASK 980 00:25:25,470 --> 00:25:27,769 IS, "DOES YOUR PILL LOOK THE 981 00:25:27,770 --> 00:25:28,789 EXACT SAME?" 982 00:25:28,790 --> 00:25:31,649 AND I WOULD SAY PROBABLY 75% OF 983 00:25:31,650 --> 00:25:34,349 THE TIME, THE ISSUE IS THAT 984 00:25:34,350 --> 00:25:35,350 THERE'S A CHANGE OF 985 00:25:35,783 --> 00:25:36,938 MANUFACTURER, AND THAT'S CAUSING 986 00:25:36,939 --> 00:25:37,932 THEM TO HAVE ISSUES WITH THE WAY 987 00:25:37,933 --> 00:25:38,471 THEY'RE RESPONDING TO THE 988 00:25:38,472 --> 00:25:39,411 MEDICATION." 989 00:25:39,412 --> 00:25:40,676 >> John: RIGHT, IF YOU'RE 990 00:25:41,310 --> 00:25:42,769 NOTICING ISSUES WHEN IT COMES TO 991 00:25:42,770 --> 00:25:43,949 HOW YOUR MEDICATION'S WORKING 992 00:25:44,070 --> 00:25:45,209 MAYBE THE FIRST THING TO ASK 993 00:25:45,210 --> 00:25:47,329 YOURSELF IS, DO YOUR PILLS LOOK 994 00:25:47,330 --> 00:25:48,269 DIFFERENT? 995 00:25:48,270 --> 00:25:49,669 AND THE SECOND IS, DID YOUR NEW 996 00:25:49,670 --> 00:25:50,928 PRESCRIPTION BOTTLE RANDOMLY 997 00:25:50,929 --> 00:25:52,609 COME WITH A FREE LIZARD INSIDE 998 00:25:52,610 --> 00:25:53,129 IT? 999 00:25:53,130 --> 00:25:54,509 OR-- IF YOUR PAST PRESCRIPTIONS 1000 00:25:54,510 --> 00:25:56,009 ALWAYS CAME WITH A LIZARD-- WAS 1001 00:25:56,010 --> 00:25:57,050 YOUR NEW BOTTLE SUDDENLY 1002 00:25:57,750 --> 00:25:58,750 LIZARD-LESS? 1003 00:25:58,850 --> 00:26:00,189 AND IF THE ANSWER TO ANY OF 1004 00:26:00,190 --> 00:26:01,349 THOSE QUESTIONS IS YES, THAT 1005 00:26:01,350 --> 00:26:02,309 MIGHT MEAN YOUR PILL 1006 00:26:02,310 --> 00:26:04,010 MANUFACTURER HAS CHANGED. 1007 00:26:04,110 --> 00:26:05,769 AND LOOK: IF YOU'RE WORRIED 1008 00:26:05,770 --> 00:26:06,928 ABOUT A DRUG YOU'RE CURRENTLY 1009 00:26:06,929 --> 00:26:08,129 TAKING, PROPUBLICA RECENTLY 1010 00:26:08,130 --> 00:26:09,489 BUILT THIS TOOL, RX INSPECTOR 1011 00:26:10,490 --> 00:26:11,849 WHICH COULD BE USEFUL FOR YOU. 1012 00:26:12,090 --> 00:26:13,649 BASICALLY, JUST LOOK ON THE 1013 00:26:13,650 --> 00:26:14,949 PACKAGING YOUR PILLS CAME IN 1014 00:26:15,050 --> 00:26:16,829 AND SEE IF YOU CAN FIND THE 1015 00:26:16,830 --> 00:26:17,369 MANUFACTURER. 1016 00:26:17,370 --> 00:26:19,408 BECAUSE IF YOU THEN SEARCH FOR 1017 00:26:19,409 --> 00:26:21,219 THAT MANUFACTURER ON THEIR SITE 1018 00:26:21,220 --> 00:26:25,382 YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIND MORE 1019 00:26:25,383 --> 00:26:26,253 ON THE COMPANY, ITS INSPECTION 1020 00:26:26,254 --> 00:26:27,489 HISTORY — AND EVEN INSPECTION 1021 00:26:27,490 --> 00:26:28,949 REPORTS IF THEY'RE AVAILABLE. 1022 00:26:29,170 --> 00:26:31,029 BUT OBVIOUSLY, IN AN IDEAL 1023 00:26:31,030 --> 00:26:32,810 WORLD, WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE 1024 00:26:33,255 --> 00:26:34,940 LOOKING UP INTERNATIONAL 1025 00:26:34,941 --> 00:26:35,951 INSPECTION REPORTS JUST TO FEEL 1026 00:26:35,952 --> 00:26:40,334 CONFIDENT IN THE DRUGS WE NEED. 1027 00:26:40,335 --> 00:26:42,020 IDEALLY WE'D HAVE A RELIABLE 1028 00:26:42,021 --> 00:26:43,031 SYSTEM FOR QUALITY THAT EVERYONE 1029 00:26:43,032 --> 00:26:44,380 COULD SEE TO INCENTIVIZE 1030 00:26:44,381 --> 00:26:45,729 PRODUCTION OF BETTER GENERICS. 1031 00:26:45,730 --> 00:26:48,289 UNTIL BIG CHANGES LIKE THAT 1032 00:26:48,509 --> 00:26:49,529 HAPPEN, MORE PEOPLE SHOULD 1033 00:26:49,530 --> 00:26:51,169 PROBABLY BE AWARE OF SOME OF THE 1034 00:26:51,170 --> 00:26:51,659 ISSUES HERE 1035 00:26:51,660 --> 00:26:52,989 AND I CAN THINK OF NO BETTER WAY 1036 00:26:52,990 --> 00:26:54,849 TO DO THAT THAN TO WELCOME SOME 1037 00:26:54,850 --> 00:26:55,726 OF MY FRIENDS. 1038 00:26:55,727 --> 00:27:02,715 >> John: HEY, GUYS! 1039 00:27:02,716 --> 00:27:05,083 GOOD TO SEE YOU! 1040 00:27:05,084 --> 00:27:06,054 ♪ NO, NO, NO, NO! ♪ 1041 00:27:06,055 --> 00:27:06,637 ♪ WE'RE NOT CANDY! ♪ 1042 00:27:06,638 --> 00:27:07,491 ♪ EVEN THOUGH WE LOOK SO FINE 1043 00:27:07,492 --> 00:27:09,121 AND-- ♪ 1044 00:27:09,122 --> 00:27:10,946 >> John: NO, I GET IT, I GET IT. 1045 00:27:10,947 --> 00:27:13,199 I GET YOU'RE NOT CANDY. 1046 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:14,979 YOU'RE GENERIC DRUGS AND YOU'RE 1047 00:27:14,980 --> 00:27:16,316 ALL VERY IMPORTANT! 1048 00:27:16,317 --> 00:27:17,878 >> THAT'S RIGHT! 1049 00:27:17,879 --> 00:27:18,999 AND YOU SHOULD BE A LOT MORE 1050 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,018 CAREFUL ABOUT HOW YOU MAKE US. 1051 00:27:21,019 --> 00:27:21,831 >> AND ALSO, INSPECT OUR 1052 00:27:21,832 --> 00:27:24,394 FACTORIES MUCH MORE OFTEN! 1053 00:27:24,395 --> 00:27:28,831 >> AND ALSO, WE'RE NOT CANDY! 1054 00:27:28,832 --> 00:27:29,890 >> John: YOU'VE MADE THAT 1055 00:27:29,891 --> 00:27:30,778 EMPHATICALLY CLEAR. 1056 00:27:30,779 --> 00:27:32,225 IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU GUYS 1057 00:27:32,226 --> 00:27:33,225 WOULD LIKE TO TELL PEOPLE? 1058 00:27:33,226 --> 00:27:34,094 >> SURE! 1059 00:27:34,095 --> 00:27:36,464 ♪ OH! OH! OH!♪ 1060 00:27:36,465 --> 00:27:37,466 ♪ THIS IS SERIOUS!♪ 1061 00:27:37,467 --> 00:27:39,704 >> John: IT IS! 1062 00:27:39,705 --> 00:27:40,404 ♪ YOU DON'T WANT YOUR DRUGS TO 1063 00:27:40,405 --> 00:27:41,473 BE MYSTERIOUS ♪ 1064 00:27:41,474 --> 00:27:42,475 ♪ MYSTERIOUS ♪ 1065 00:27:42,476 --> 00:27:43,978 ♪ YES WE'RE CHEAPER ♪ 1066 00:27:43,979 --> 00:27:45,480 >> John: TRUE! 1067 00:27:45,481 --> 00:27:46,515 ♪ BUT WE SHOULDN'T ALSO COST YOU 1068 00:27:46,516 --> 00:27:48,986 A PEEPER ♪ 1069 00:27:48,987 --> 00:27:52,359 ♪ USE YOUR BRAINS ♪ 1070 00:27:52,360 --> 00:27:54,996 ♪ FIX YOUR SUPPLY CHAINS ♪ 1071 00:27:54,997 --> 00:28:00,505 ♪ SO WE CAN HELP YOU! ♪ 1072 00:28:00,506 --> 00:28:04,012 >> John: EXACTLY, GUYS! 1073 00:28:04,013 --> 00:28:05,548 THAT'S PERFECTLY PUT. 1074 00:28:05,549 --> 00:28:06,515 >> SO I CAN HELP YOUR HEART 1075 00:28:06,516 --> 00:28:07,050 TRANSPLANT. 1076 00:28:07,051 --> 00:28:07,551 >> John: SOUNDS GOOD! 1077 00:28:07,552 --> 00:28:08,051 >> AND I CAN CURE YOUR 1078 00:28:08,052 --> 00:28:09,220 DEPRESSION! 1079 00:28:09,221 --> 00:28:11,089 >> John: GOOD LUCK WITH THAT! 1080 00:28:11,090 --> 00:28:12,058 >> AND I CAN GIVE YOUR GRANDPA A 1081 00:28:12,059 --> 00:28:19,059 BONER. 1082 00:28:20,841 --> 00:28:21,308 [LAUGHTER] 1083 00:28:21,309 --> 00:28:22,042 >> John: GENERIC DRUGS, LADIES 1084 00:28:22,043 --> 00:28:29,043 AND GENTLEMEN! 1085 00:28:29,355 --> 00:28:29,754 ♪ ♪ 1086 00:28:29,755 --> 00:28:36,697 >> AND NOW, THIS! 1087 00:28:36,698 --> 00:28:38,668 >> Announcer: AND NOW, PIERS 1088 00:28:38,669 --> 00:28:41,703 MORGAN CAN'T CONTROL HIS GUESTS. 1089 00:28:41,704 --> 00:28:45,159 >> I WAS JUST TELLING YOU-- 1090 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,902 >> HANG ON, HANG ON. 1091 00:28:47,903 --> 00:28:51,847 >> HANG ON. 1092 00:28:51,848 --> 00:28:56,919 >> I WAS-- 1093 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,662 >> I'M-- 1094 00:28:59,663 --> 00:29:00,075 >> I.-- 1095 00:29:00,076 --> 00:29:02,555 >> I WOULD SAY-- 1096 00:29:02,556 --> 00:29:05,937 >> HANG ON-- 1097 00:29:05,938 --> 00:29:10,445 >> HANG ON. 1098 00:29:10,446 --> 00:29:14,954 >> WAIT A MINUTE. 1099 00:29:14,955 --> 00:29:21,641 >> I WOULD LIKE THE VIEWERS-- 1100 00:29:21,642 --> 00:29:22,543 >> BRIANNA. 1101 00:29:22,544 --> 00:29:29,044 BRIANNA. 1102 00:29:29,045 --> 00:29:30,734 >> WE DON'T HEAR ANY OF YOU IF 1103 00:29:30,735 --> 00:29:31,861 YOU DO. 1104 00:29:31,862 --> 00:29:33,553 JUST TO BE CLEAR. 1105 00:29:33,554 --> 00:29:36,370 LET ME ASK YOU THIS. 1106 00:29:36,371 --> 00:29:39,189 ALLEN BAKER. 1107 00:29:39,190 --> 00:29:40,390 ALLEN-- 1108 00:29:40,391 --> 00:29:44,299 >> STOP INTERRUPTING AND RELAX. 1109 00:29:44,300 --> 00:29:46,439 >> John: BEFORE WE GO, A QUICK 1110 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:47,329 WORD ABOUT BRAND MASCOTS-- YOU 1111 00:29:47,330 --> 00:29:48,329 KNOW, LIKE THE HONEY NUT 1112 00:29:48,330 --> 00:29:49,849 CHEERIOS BEE, OR THE PILLSBURY 1113 00:29:49,850 --> 00:29:51,430 DOUGHBOY, OR RONALD MCDONALD. 1114 00:29:51,730 --> 00:29:53,289 FUN FACT: RONALD DIDN'T ALWAYS 1115 00:29:53,290 --> 00:29:54,308 LOOK LIKE THIS. 1116 00:29:54,309 --> 00:29:56,446 THIS IS ACTUALLY HOW HE STARTED 1117 00:29:56,447 --> 00:29:58,038 OUT: 1118 00:29:58,039 --> 00:29:59,233 >> I LIKE TO DO EVERYTHING BOYS 1119 00:29:59,234 --> 00:29:59,689 AND GIRLS LIKE TO DO. 1120 00:29:59,690 --> 00:30:00,629 ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO 1121 00:30:00,630 --> 00:30:01,469 EATING THOSE DELICIOUS 1122 00:30:01,470 --> 00:30:02,610 MCDONALD'S HAMBURGERS. 1123 00:30:03,070 --> 00:30:04,469 A MAGIC TRAY HERE KEEPS ME WELL 1124 00:30:04,470 --> 00:30:05,289 SUPPLIED. 1125 00:30:05,290 --> 00:30:06,829 MCDONALD'S HAMBURGERS, FRENCH 1126 00:30:06,830 --> 00:30:07,890 FRIES AND MILKSHAKES. 1127 00:30:08,450 --> 00:30:09,670 WATCH FOR ME ON TV. 1128 00:30:10,010 --> 00:30:11,169 WE'LL HAVE LOTS OF FUN! 1129 00:30:11,170 --> 00:30:12,765 [HONKS] 1130 00:30:12,766 --> 00:30:15,929 >> John: FUCK NO. 1131 00:30:15,930 --> 00:30:18,769 THAT ORIGINAL RONALD IS NOT FUN. 1132 00:30:19,430 --> 00:30:20,909 THAT'S A DIVORCED DAD TRYING TO 1133 00:30:20,910 --> 00:30:21,909 SAVE A FEW BUCKS ON HIRING 1134 00:30:21,910 --> 00:30:23,269 BIRTHDAY PARTY ENTERTAINMENT BY 1135 00:30:23,270 --> 00:30:24,689 PUTTING TOGETHER A COSTUME FROM 1136 00:30:24,690 --> 00:30:25,729 WHAT HE FOUND ON THE FLOOR OF 1137 00:30:25,730 --> 00:30:26,528 HIS CAR. 1138 00:30:26,529 --> 00:30:27,650 NO, THANK YOU! 1139 00:30:28,530 --> 00:30:29,749 BUT TONIGHT, I WANT TO TALK 1140 00:30:29,750 --> 00:30:31,589 ABOUT TWO RECENT INNOVATIONS IN 1141 00:30:31,590 --> 00:30:32,469 THE MASCOT FIELD. 1142 00:30:32,470 --> 00:30:34,250 THE FIRST INVOLVES THIS THING: 1143 00:30:34,510 --> 00:30:35,284 >> HELLO. 1144 00:30:35,285 --> 00:30:39,249 >> OH. 1145 00:30:39,250 --> 00:30:40,678 I'M SORRY WHO ARE YOU? 1146 00:30:40,679 --> 00:30:42,183 >> I'M LIBERTY BIBERTY. 1147 00:30:42,184 --> 00:30:43,093 >> John: YEAH. 1148 00:30:43,094 --> 00:30:43,373 LIBERTY. 1149 00:30:43,374 --> 00:30:43,864 FUCKING. 1150 00:30:43,865 --> 00:30:45,929 BIBERTY. 1151 00:30:45,930 --> 00:30:48,269 YOU CAN'T HAVE MISSED HIM, AS 1152 00:30:48,270 --> 00:30:49,649 HE'S CURRENTLY IN COUNTLESS ADS 1153 00:30:49,650 --> 00:30:51,369 INTERRUPTING SPORTS, DANCING 1154 00:30:51,370 --> 00:30:52,849 WITH THE STARS, NEWS, OR 1155 00:30:52,850 --> 00:30:54,029 BASICALLY ANYTHING THAT COMES 1156 00:30:54,030 --> 00:30:54,819 WITH COMMERCIAL BREAKS. 1157 00:30:54,820 --> 00:30:56,689 AND WHILE THIS SHOW IS FIRMLY ON 1158 00:30:56,690 --> 00:30:58,490 THE RECORD AS BEING PRO-PUPPET 1159 00:30:58,910 --> 00:31:01,108 LET ME BE CLEAR: NOT THIS ONE. 1160 00:31:01,109 --> 00:31:03,089 BECAUSE I HATE THIS THING. 1161 00:31:03,090 --> 00:31:04,429 THAT RIGHT THERE IS A FUZZY 1162 00:31:04,430 --> 00:31:05,530 TESTICLE WITH TEETH. 1163 00:31:06,070 --> 00:31:07,849 IT LOOKS LIKE BIG BIRD'S SLEEP 1164 00:31:07,850 --> 00:31:08,729 PARALYSIS DEMON. 1165 00:31:08,730 --> 00:31:10,670 THE VERY NAME "LIBERTY BIBERTY" 1166 00:31:11,150 --> 00:31:12,289 SOUNDS LIKE WHAT THE DEVIL WOULD 1167 00:31:12,290 --> 00:31:13,549 SHOUT IN TONGUES TO HERALD HIS 1168 00:31:13,550 --> 00:31:14,550 ARRIVAL ON EARTH. 1169 00:31:15,390 --> 00:31:16,749 AND WHILE I DON'T KNOW MUCH 1170 00:31:16,750 --> 00:31:18,349 ABOUT ADVERTISING, I DON'T THINK 1171 00:31:18,350 --> 00:31:19,549 IT'S A GREAT SIGN THAT MY FIRST 1172 00:31:19,550 --> 00:31:21,330 REACTION TO THAT AD WAS LESS 1173 00:31:21,570 --> 00:31:22,749 "MAYBE I SHOULD SWITCH INSURANCE 1174 00:31:22,750 --> 00:31:24,249 PROVIDERS" AND MORE "IS IT 1175 00:31:24,250 --> 00:31:25,489 TECHNICALLY MURDER IF THE THING 1176 00:31:25,490 --> 00:31:26,869 IS ALREADY DEAD BEHIND THE 1177 00:31:26,870 --> 00:31:27,729 EYES?" 1178 00:31:27,730 --> 00:31:30,409 AND I'M NOT ALONE IN FEELING 1179 00:31:30,410 --> 00:31:31,061 THIS WAY. 1180 00:31:31,062 --> 00:31:33,231 >> I'VE NEVER HAD BEEF WITH AN 1181 00:31:33,232 --> 00:31:34,316 OBJECT LIKE I HAVE BEEF WITH 1182 00:31:34,317 --> 00:31:35,401 FUCKING LIBERTY BIBERTY. 1183 00:31:35,402 --> 00:31:36,522 >> CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE TELL 1184 00:31:36,523 --> 00:31:37,571 LIBERTY MUTUAL TO LET THE 1185 00:31:37,572 --> 00:31:39,198 LIBERTY BIBERTY SHIT GO? 1186 00:31:39,199 --> 00:31:41,369 >> CANCELLING MY LIBERTY MUTUAL 1187 00:31:41,370 --> 00:31:43,430 AUTO INSURANCE BECAUSE I CAN'T 1188 00:31:43,431 --> 00:31:44,190 FUCKING STAND LIBERTY BIBERTY. 1189 00:31:44,191 --> 00:31:46,179 >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT THING 1190 00:31:46,180 --> 00:31:47,229 IS AND AT THIS POINT I DON'T 1191 00:31:47,230 --> 00:31:48,293 EVEN KNOW WHAT YOU SELL. 1192 00:31:48,294 --> 00:31:49,669 >> DAY ONE OF THE PLAYOFFS-- 1193 00:31:49,670 --> 00:31:51,549 GET LIBERTY BIBERTY OFF MY 1194 00:31:51,550 --> 00:31:52,017 SCREEN! 1195 00:31:52,018 --> 00:31:54,199 >> LISTEN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT 1196 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,974 THAT FURRY LIBERTY BIBERTY THING 1197 00:31:56,975 --> 00:32:00,769 IS, BUT I KNOW THAT NEITHER OF 1198 00:32:00,770 --> 00:32:02,489 US CAN LIVE WHILE THE OTHER 1199 00:32:02,490 --> 00:32:03,288 SURVIVES. 1200 00:32:03,289 --> 00:32:07,429 >> John: I AGREE. 1201 00:32:07,430 --> 00:32:09,009 AND THIS GUY RAISES A GOOD 1202 00:32:09,110 --> 00:32:11,089 POINT: WHAT DOES A SEMI-SENTIENT 1203 00:32:11,090 --> 00:32:12,229 BALL OF WINNIE THE POOH'S BUTT 1204 00:32:12,230 --> 00:32:13,909 FUZZ HAVE TO DO WITH 1205 00:32:13,910 --> 00:32:14,529 "INSURANCE?" 1206 00:32:14,530 --> 00:32:15,789 IMAGINE IF YOU WERE IN A CAR 1207 00:32:15,790 --> 00:32:17,610 ACCIDENT AND THIS FUCKING PELLET 1208 00:32:17,770 --> 00:32:19,609 ROLLED UP TO THE SCENE TO TALK 1209 00:32:19,610 --> 00:32:20,569 TO YOU ABOUT YOUR DEDUCTIBLE. 1210 00:32:20,570 --> 00:32:21,989 YOU'D PUNT IT INTO THE GOD DAMN 1211 00:32:22,090 --> 00:32:23,090 SUN. 1212 00:32:23,390 --> 00:32:24,970 BUT HERE'S THE PROBLEM. 1213 00:32:25,330 --> 00:32:27,109 IN THE WORLD OF MARKETING, HATE 1214 00:32:27,110 --> 00:32:29,209 LIKE THIS ISN'T CONSIDERED A BAD 1215 00:32:29,210 --> 00:32:29,369 THING. 1216 00:32:29,370 --> 00:32:30,429 IF ANYTHING, IT JUST MAKES THE 1217 00:32:30,430 --> 00:32:31,730 BRAND FEEL MORE RELEVANT. 1218 00:32:32,070 --> 00:32:33,509 FOR COMPANIES, BASICALLY ANY 1219 00:32:33,510 --> 00:32:35,329 ATTENTION IS GOOD ATTENTION. 1220 00:32:35,330 --> 00:32:37,549 ALTHOUGH THERE IS ONE NOTABLE 1221 00:32:37,550 --> 00:32:38,609 EXCEPTION. 1222 00:32:38,610 --> 00:32:39,789 AND THAT BRINGS US TO THE SECOND 1223 00:32:39,790 --> 00:32:41,178 MASCOT I WANT TO DISCUSS. 1224 00:32:41,179 --> 00:32:41,969 IT'S FOR A COMPANY CALLED 1225 00:32:41,970 --> 00:32:44,049 KIWIBANK, A SMALL, STATE-OWNED 1226 00:32:44,050 --> 00:32:45,050 BANK IN NEW ZEALAND. 1227 00:32:45,530 --> 00:32:47,089 IT ROLLED OUT A NEW CAMPAIGN 1228 00:32:47,090 --> 00:32:49,049 FEATURING A GREEN SHEEP WHO 1229 00:32:49,050 --> 00:32:50,449 LEAVES THE FARM FOR THE BIG 1230 00:32:50,450 --> 00:32:51,869 CITY, ONLY TO DISCOVER THE JOYS 1231 00:32:51,870 --> 00:32:52,725 OF BANKING WITH THEM. 1232 00:32:52,726 --> 00:32:53,409 >> BEING MY OWN SHEPHERD WAS 1233 00:32:53,410 --> 00:32:55,870 HARDER THAN IT LOOKS. 1234 00:32:55,871 --> 00:32:58,189 BUT THEN I FOUND SOMEWHERE THAT 1235 00:32:58,190 --> 00:32:59,190 SAW THINGS DIFFERENTLY. 1236 00:32:59,970 --> 00:33:02,929 AFTER THAT, NO FENCE COULD HOLD 1237 00:33:02,930 --> 00:33:03,409 ME BACK. 1238 00:33:03,410 --> 00:33:05,329 I ARRIVED ALONE, BUT I NEVER 1239 00:33:05,330 --> 00:33:06,589 WOULD HAVE MADE IT HERE ON MY 1240 00:33:06,590 --> 00:33:07,629 OWN. 1241 00:33:07,630 --> 00:33:09,429 I JUST NEEDED A BANK THAT WAS 1242 00:33:09,430 --> 00:33:10,666 BUCKING THE SYSTEM TOO. 1243 00:33:10,667 --> 00:33:12,275 >> BANK KIWI. 1244 00:33:12,276 --> 00:33:13,333 KIWIBANK. 1245 00:33:13,334 --> 00:33:14,353 >> John: YEAH, THAT SEEMS PRETTY 1246 00:33:14,354 --> 00:33:16,649 HARMLESS. 1247 00:33:16,650 --> 00:33:18,469 THOUGH, PERSONALLY, I'M NOT SURE 1248 00:33:18,470 --> 00:33:19,669 I WANT MY BANK TO BE "BUCKING 1249 00:33:19,670 --> 00:33:20,369 THE SYSTEM." 1250 00:33:20,370 --> 00:33:22,858 IF ANYTHING, I'D LIKE IT TO BE 1251 00:33:22,859 --> 00:33:23,990 FIRMLY WITHIN THE SYSTEM 1252 00:33:24,749 --> 00:33:25,749 MAINTAINING ALL LEGAL 1253 00:33:25,850 --> 00:33:27,009 REQUIREMENTS FOR MY MONEY AND 1254 00:33:27,010 --> 00:33:28,508 NOT NECESSARILY GIVING IT TO A 1255 00:33:28,509 --> 00:33:29,969 SHEEP WHO IS GOOD AT DANCE DANCE 1256 00:33:29,970 --> 00:33:30,588 REVOLUTION. 1257 00:33:30,589 --> 00:33:32,369 BUT TO EACH HIS OWN. 1258 00:33:32,750 --> 00:33:34,349 SOME PEOPLE, THOUGH, HAD A VERY 1259 00:33:34,350 --> 00:33:35,689 DIFFERENT REACTION TO THAT AD 1260 00:33:35,690 --> 00:33:36,189 CAMPAIGN. 1261 00:33:36,190 --> 00:33:37,389 BECAUSE ABOUT A MONTH AFTER IT 1262 00:33:37,670 --> 00:33:39,029 LAUNCHED, ONE USER ON TWITTER 1263 00:33:39,030 --> 00:33:40,030 POSTED, AND I QUOTE: 1264 00:33:40,610 --> 00:33:42,209 "I WANT TO FUCK THE KIWIBANK 1265 00:33:42,210 --> 00:33:43,210 SHEEP." 1266 00:33:43,610 --> 00:33:46,129 A POST THAT QUICKLY GAINED STEAM 1267 00:33:46,130 --> 00:33:47,789 AFTER ANOTHER USER REPOSTED IT 1268 00:33:47,790 --> 00:33:49,429 AND SAID, "YEARS OF EFFORT TO 1269 00:33:49,430 --> 00:33:50,369 CONVINCE THE WORLD NEW 1270 00:33:50,370 --> 00:33:51,549 ZEALANDERS DON'T WANT TO FUCK 1271 00:33:51,550 --> 00:33:54,369 SHEEP HAS GONE DOWN THE DRAIN IN 1272 00:33:54,370 --> 00:33:55,370 ONE TWEET." 1273 00:33:55,590 --> 00:33:57,909 THAT WENT VIRAL, UNDERSTANDABLY 1274 00:33:57,910 --> 00:33:59,109 AND TOUCHED OFF A ROUND OF 1275 00:33:59,110 --> 00:34:00,649 SEXUALIZED POSTS AND DRAWINGS OF 1276 00:34:00,650 --> 00:34:01,109 BUCK THE SHEEP. 1277 00:34:01,110 --> 00:34:02,449 BUT EVEN THAT MIGHT'VE QUICKLY 1278 00:34:02,450 --> 00:34:04,669 DIED DOWN, WERE IT NOT FOR A KEY 1279 00:34:04,670 --> 00:34:06,909 DECISION KIWIBANK THEN MADE. 1280 00:34:06,910 --> 00:34:08,009 BECAUSE PEOPLE SOON NOTICED THAT 1281 00:34:08,010 --> 00:34:09,329 THE ORIGINAL POST HAD BEEN 1282 00:34:09,330 --> 00:34:09,888 CENSORED. 1283 00:34:09,889 --> 00:34:11,729 IT ORIGINALLY FEATURED A GIF OF 1284 00:34:11,730 --> 00:34:13,309 THE SHEEP FROM THE AD, BUT IT 1285 00:34:13,310 --> 00:34:14,310 HAD BEEN REPLACED WITH THE 1286 00:34:14,529 --> 00:34:15,529 MESSAGE "THIS MEDIA HAS BEEN 1287 00:34:15,710 --> 00:34:17,229 DISABLED IN RESPONSE TO A REPORT 1288 00:34:17,230 --> 00:34:18,530 BY THE COPYRIGHT OWNER." 1289 00:34:18,710 --> 00:34:20,209 AND OTHER POSTS RAN INTO SIMILAR 1290 00:34:20,210 --> 00:34:21,589 ISSUES, WITH KIWIBANK ISSUING A 1291 00:34:21,590 --> 00:34:23,510 BARRAGE OF TAKE DOWN NOTICES 1292 00:34:23,610 --> 00:34:24,629 SOME OF WHICH ACCUSED USERS OF 1293 00:34:24,630 --> 00:34:25,968 HAVING "TAKEN KIWIBANK'S 1294 00:34:25,969 --> 00:34:27,589 DISTINCTIVE BUCK IMAGE AND USED 1295 00:34:27,590 --> 00:34:29,029 IT TO MAKE HIGHLY SEXUALISED AND 1296 00:34:29,030 --> 00:34:30,489 INAPPROPRIATE COPIES WHICH 1297 00:34:30,629 --> 00:34:31,480 INFRINGE THE KIWIBANK 1298 00:34:31,481 --> 00:34:32,237 COPYRIGHT." 1299 00:34:32,238 --> 00:34:33,238 A REPORTER IN NEW ZEALAND 1300 00:34:33,549 --> 00:34:34,809 ACTUALLY SPOKE TO SOMEONE WHOSE 1301 00:34:34,810 --> 00:34:36,669 POST WAS REMOVED, WHO SAID "MY 1302 00:34:36,670 --> 00:34:38,669 TWEET WAS A JOKE, OBVIOUSLY I 1303 00:34:38,670 --> 00:34:39,408 HOPE. 1304 00:34:39,409 --> 00:34:41,109 I DO NOT THINK THE DRAWING OF A 1305 00:34:41,110 --> 00:34:42,169 SHEEP IS SEXY. 1306 00:34:42,170 --> 00:34:43,349 PUT THAT IN THE PAPER!" 1307 00:34:43,889 --> 00:34:46,089 WHICH IS JUST AN INCREDIBLE 1308 00:34:46,090 --> 00:34:47,529 THING TO FEEL THE NEED TO 1309 00:34:47,530 --> 00:34:48,530 CLARIFY. 1310 00:34:48,630 --> 00:34:50,309 THOUGH, AS THAT REPORTER LATER 1311 00:34:50,310 --> 00:34:51,968 TOLD A RADIO INTERVIEWER, OTHER 1312 00:34:51,969 --> 00:34:53,488 PEOPLE HE SPOKE TO WEREN'T QUITE 1313 00:34:53,489 --> 00:34:54,389 SO RETICENT. 1314 00:34:54,390 --> 00:34:55,493 >> I DID TALK TO SOMEONE IN THE 1315 00:34:55,494 --> 00:34:56,474 FURRY COMMUNITY, AND THEY DID 1316 00:34:56,475 --> 00:34:59,141 SAY, 'LOOK, THIS IS A, THIS IS 1317 00:34:59,142 --> 00:34:59,754 AN ATTRACTIVE SHEEP AS FURRY 1318 00:34:59,755 --> 00:35:01,289 CULTURE GOES. 1319 00:35:01,290 --> 00:35:03,089 THIS IS A VERY GOOD-LOOKING 1320 00:35:03,090 --> 00:35:03,658 SHEEP.' 1321 00:35:03,659 --> 00:35:07,396 AND SHE DOES HAVE WHAT SOME HAVE 1322 00:35:07,397 --> 00:35:08,939 REFERRED TO AS 'COME HITHER' 1323 00:35:08,940 --> 00:35:11,511 EYES AND PARTICULARLY IN THE 1324 00:35:11,512 --> 00:35:12,540 MOMENT IN THE AD WHERE SHE GETS 1325 00:35:12,541 --> 00:35:13,569 A HAIRCUT. 1326 00:35:13,570 --> 00:35:15,169 THIS IS WHAT'S REALLY GOT PEOPLE 1327 00:35:15,170 --> 00:35:16,170 GOING. 1328 00:35:16,969 --> 00:35:19,229 SO, A LOT OF PEOPLE ONLINE ARE 1329 00:35:19,230 --> 00:35:20,108 SAYING, 'IF YOU DIDN'T WANT 1330 00:35:20,109 --> 00:35:21,754 PEOPLE TO SAY YOUR SHEEP IS SO 1331 00:35:21,755 --> 00:35:22,488 SEXY, YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE MADE 1332 00:35:22,489 --> 00:35:23,566 SUCH A SEXY SHEEP. 1333 00:35:23,567 --> 00:35:26,408 >> John: YEAH, THAT'S FAIR. 1334 00:35:26,409 --> 00:35:27,749 AND WHILE I KNOW THIS ISN'T THE 1335 00:35:27,750 --> 00:35:29,229 POINT, I DO FEEL A LITTLE 1336 00:35:29,230 --> 00:35:30,669 VALIDATED BECAUSE IF I'M HONEST 1337 00:35:30,670 --> 00:35:32,049 THIS IS "EXACTLY" WHAT I ASSUMED 1338 00:35:32,050 --> 00:35:33,509 RADIO IN NEW ZEALAND WAS LIKE 1339 00:35:33,510 --> 00:35:34,510 EVERY SINGLE DAY. 1340 00:35:34,989 --> 00:35:37,649 BUT THE THING IS, KIWIBANK'S 1341 00:35:37,650 --> 00:35:38,528 AGGRESSIVE RESPONSE WAS 1342 00:35:38,529 --> 00:35:39,988 COMPLETELY COUNTERPRODUCTIVE, AS 1343 00:35:39,989 --> 00:35:41,069 APPARENTLY, FOR EVERY LUSTFUL 1344 00:35:41,070 --> 00:35:42,489 POST KILLED BY A LEGAL THREAT 1345 00:35:42,849 --> 00:35:44,389 ANOTHER 10 TOOK ITS PLACE. 1346 00:35:44,770 --> 00:35:46,189 IN FACT, PEOPLE STARTED POSTING 1347 00:35:46,190 --> 00:35:47,730 IN SOLIDARITY, SAYING THINGS 1348 00:35:48,270 --> 00:35:49,490 LIKE: I'M A KIWIBANK CUSTOMER 1349 00:35:49,770 --> 00:35:51,109 AND I DEMAND YOU ALLOW SOCIAL 1350 00:35:51,110 --> 00:35:52,429 MEDIA USERS TO SEXUALISE THAT 1351 00:35:52,430 --> 00:35:54,369 SHEEP OR I'LL MOVE MY MONEY TO A 1352 00:35:54,370 --> 00:35:57,269 BANK THAT WILL" AND I'M JOINING 1353 00:35:57,270 --> 00:35:58,729 THE WAR ON "STOP SAYING YOU WANT 1354 00:35:58,730 --> 00:36:00,469 TO FUCK ITS SHEEP MASCOT" ON THE 1355 00:36:00,470 --> 00:36:01,869 SIDE OF I WANT TO FUCK THE SHEEP 1356 00:36:01,870 --> 00:36:02,889 MASCOT. 1357 00:36:02,890 --> 00:36:04,429 BASICALLY A LOT OF NEW 1358 00:36:04,430 --> 00:36:05,855 ZEALANDERS ARE GOING FULL "I AM 1359 00:36:05,856 --> 00:36:06,921 SPARTACUS"-- IF, THAT IS 1360 00:36:06,922 --> 00:36:07,972 SPARTACUS WANTED TO FUCK THE 1361 00:36:07,973 --> 00:36:11,173 KIWIBANK SHEEP. 1362 00:36:11,269 --> 00:36:13,908 AND AS A RESULT THE BANK SEEMS 1363 00:36:13,909 --> 00:36:14,678 TO HAVE CURTAILED ITS SHEEP 1364 00:36:14,679 --> 00:36:15,761 CONTENT-- AS IN THE FIRST FIVE 1365 00:36:15,762 --> 00:36:17,204 WEEKS AFTER THAT AD CAMPAIGN 1366 00:36:17,205 --> 00:36:19,009 LAUNCHED, OUT OF THE 10 TIKTOKS 1367 00:36:19,010 --> 00:36:21,269 THEY POSTED, SIX FEATURED BUCK. 1368 00:36:21,550 --> 00:36:22,609 BUT SINCE THEN, THEY'VE POSTED 1369 00:36:22,610 --> 00:36:23,989 18 TIMES, AND THE SHEEP'S IN 1370 00:36:23,990 --> 00:36:25,189 EXACTLY NONE OF THEM. 1371 00:36:25,190 --> 00:36:26,869 BASICALLY, THE SHEEP'S GONE! 1372 00:36:28,230 --> 00:36:30,269 ALL OF WHICH BRINGS US BACK TO 1373 00:36:30,270 --> 00:36:32,609 LIBERTY BIBERTY, BECAUSE NEW 1374 00:36:32,610 --> 00:36:34,570 ZEALAND MAY'VE INADVERTENTLY 1375 00:36:34,970 --> 00:36:36,469 JUST GIVEN US A BLUEPRINT FOR 1376 00:36:36,470 --> 00:36:37,550 HOW TO GET RID OF HIM FOREVER. 1377 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,259 ALL THOSE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO 1378 00:36:41,260 --> 00:36:42,959 KILL BIBERTY HAVE CLEARLY BEEN 1379 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,239 COMING AT THIS THE WRONG WAY. 1380 00:36:44,240 --> 00:36:45,719 FOR ONE THING, BIBERTY CAN'T 1381 00:36:45,720 --> 00:36:46,039 DIE. 1382 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:47,259 HE WAS CREATED IN DEFIANCE OF 1383 00:36:47,260 --> 00:36:47,699 GOD'S WILL. 1384 00:36:47,700 --> 00:36:50,399 BUT FOR ANOTHER, AS KIWIBANK HAS 1385 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,319 TAUGHT US, LOVE CAN DO WHAT HATE 1386 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:54,320 CAN'T. 1387 00:36:54,940 --> 00:36:57,699 MY POINT IS, COMPANIES SEEM TO 1388 00:36:57,700 --> 00:36:59,689 BE ENDLESSLY THIRSTY FOR 1389 00:36:59,690 --> 00:37:01,019 CONSUMER ENGAGEMENT, WITH ONE 1390 00:37:01,020 --> 00:37:02,500 VERY NOTABLE EXCEPTION. 1391 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,039 SO, IF WE WANT TO SEE THE END OF 1392 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:06,899 LIBERTY BIBERTY, AND I THINK WE 1393 00:37:06,900 --> 00:37:09,119 DO, IT APPEARS WE HAVE A 1394 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:10,099 PATHWAY. 1395 00:37:10,100 --> 00:37:12,499 WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IT MAY BE 1396 00:37:12,500 --> 00:37:13,959 TIME TO THIRST OPENLY AND 1397 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,319 ENTHUSIASTICALLY AFTER THIS 1398 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:15,799 ATROCITY. 1399 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,019 BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT LIBERTY 1400 00:37:17,020 --> 00:37:18,579 MUTUAL PROBABLY DOESN'T WANT TO 1401 00:37:18,580 --> 00:37:19,580 SEE RIGHT NOW? 1402 00:37:19,780 --> 00:37:20,780 IMAGES LIKE THIS. 1403 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,559 I'LL BE HONEST-- I DON'T WANT 1404 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:25,560 TO SEE IT. 1405 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,899 BUT REMEMBER, THIS IS A MEANS TO 1406 00:37:27,900 --> 00:37:28,639 AN END. 1407 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,679 AND THE COMPANY SHOULD KNOW: IF 1408 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:31,880 THIS DOESN'T GET THE JOB DONE 1409 00:37:32,060 --> 00:37:33,539 WE HAVE OTHER BULLETS IN THE 1410 00:37:33,540 --> 00:37:34,459 CHAMBER. 1411 00:37:34,460 --> 00:37:35,460 LIKE THIS. 1412 00:37:35,860 --> 00:37:37,780 OR INDEED, THIS. 1413 00:37:38,260 --> 00:37:40,099 WE HAVE SOMEONE ON STAFF WHO 1414 00:37:40,100 --> 00:37:41,380 DOES THESE DRAWINGS, BY THE WAY. 1415 00:37:41,540 --> 00:37:42,739 AND YOU SHOULD KNOW-- WE ASKED 1416 00:37:42,740 --> 00:37:45,519 HIM FOR A FOUR OUT OF TEN, AND 1417 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:46,459 THIS IS WHAT HE GAVE US. 1418 00:37:46,460 --> 00:37:48,259 LIBERTY MUTUAL: DON'T MAKE ME 1419 00:37:48,260 --> 00:37:49,440 ASK HIM TO GO HIGHER. 1420 00:37:50,460 --> 00:37:52,499 YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW WHAT A 1421 00:37:52,500 --> 00:37:53,760 SIX LOOKS LIKE. 1422 00:37:54,380 --> 00:37:55,580 LOOK, THE FURRY COMMUNITY'S 1423 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,219 ALWAYS HAD A VERY PARTICULAR SET 1424 00:37:58,220 --> 00:38:00,219 OF SKILLS, AND IT MAY NOW BE 1425 00:38:00,220 --> 00:38:01,240 TIME FOR THEM TO USE THOSE 1426 00:38:01,572 --> 00:38:02,767 SKILLS FOR THE GREATER GOOD. 1427 00:38:02,768 --> 00:38:04,309 SO EVERYONE MIGHT WANT TO MUTE 1428 00:38:04,310 --> 00:38:05,319 THE WORD "BIBERTY" ON WHICHEVER 1429 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,339 SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM YOU'RE ON 1430 00:38:07,340 --> 00:38:08,299 IN THE NEXT WEEK. 1431 00:38:08,300 --> 00:38:09,739 BECAUSE I THINK THINGS ARE ABOUT 1432 00:38:09,740 --> 00:38:10,860 TO GET A LITTLE SPICY. 1433 00:38:11,519 --> 00:38:14,090 AND TO LIBERTY MUTUAL, LET ME 1434 00:38:14,091 --> 00:38:15,545 JUST SAY THIS: IF YOU DIDN'T 1435 00:38:15,546 --> 00:38:16,542 WANT PEOPLE ONLINE TO SAY YOUR 1436 00:38:16,543 --> 00:38:18,219 BIBERTY IS SEXY, YOU SHOULDN'T 1437 00:38:18,220 --> 00:38:19,580 HAVE MADE SUCH A SEXY BIBERTY. 1438 00:38:21,020 --> 00:38:22,019 THAT'S OUR SHOW! 1439 00:38:22,020 --> 00:38:23,079 THANKS SO MUCH FOR WATCHING! 1440 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:24,159 WE'RE OFF NEXT WEEK, BACK 1441 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:25,160 OCTOBER 25TH! 1442 00:38:25,340 --> 00:38:27,319 I'M THRILLED TO BE PART OF THE 1443 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:28,520 SKYDANCE FAMILY! 1444 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:30,459 HOPE YOU'RE HAPPY WITH WHAT YOU 1445 00:38:30,460 --> 00:38:31,460 BOUGHT, GUYS! 1446 00:38:31,740 --> 00:38:33,480 WE'RE NEVER GONNA CHANGE! 1447 00:38:33,900 --> 00:38:34,920 GOOD NIGHT! 1448 00:38:36,169 --> 00:38:36,948 NEVER! 1449 00:38:36,949 --> 00:38:37,949 WE'RE NEVER CHANGING! 1450 00:38:42,533 --> 00:38:43,539 ♪ ♪