1 00:00:03,570 --> 00:00:07,006 ♪ ♪ 2 00:00:07,073 --> 00:00:18,084 ♪ ♪ 3 00:00:18,151 --> 00:00:28,928 ♪ ♪ 4 00:00:28,995 --> 00:00:33,366 [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] 5 00:00:33,433 --> 00:00:34,300 >> John: WELCOME, WELCOME, 6 00:00:34,367 --> 00:00:35,535 WELCOME TO "LAST WEEK TONIGHT." 7 00:00:35,602 --> 00:00:36,169 I'M JOHN OLIVER. 8 00:00:36,236 --> 00:00:37,070 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING 9 00:00:37,137 --> 00:00:39,639 US. 10 00:00:39,706 --> 00:00:40,874 IT HAS BEEN A BUSY WEEK. 11 00:00:40,940 --> 00:00:41,808 RUSSIA'S WAR ON UKRAINE ENTERED 12 00:00:41,875 --> 00:00:42,909 ITS SIXTH MONTH, MONKEYPOX 13 00:00:42,976 --> 00:00:44,043 CONTINUES TO SPREAD AROUND THE 14 00:00:44,110 --> 00:00:45,645 WORLD, AND IN DC, WEST 15 00:00:45,712 --> 00:00:47,881 VIRGINIA'S NASTIEST LITTLE COAL 16 00:00:47,947 --> 00:00:49,249 SKANK FINALLY DECIDED TO ACT 17 00:00:49,315 --> 00:00:52,485 LIKE A DEMOCRAT FOR ONCE. 18 00:00:52,552 --> 00:00:53,486 [LAUGHTER] 19 00:00:53,553 --> 00:00:54,587 BUT WE'RE GOING TO START TONIGHT 20 00:00:54,654 --> 00:00:55,455 IN EUROPE, WHICH HAS HAD A 21 00:00:55,522 --> 00:00:56,055 DRAMATIC SUMMER. 22 00:00:56,122 --> 00:00:57,357 A MASSIVE HEAT WAVE HAS ENGULFED 23 00:00:57,424 --> 00:00:58,024 THE CONTINENT, AND A WALRUS 24 00:00:58,091 --> 00:00:59,926 NAMED FREYA HAS CAUSED ABSOLUTE 25 00:00:59,993 --> 00:01:01,528 CHAOS. 26 00:01:01,594 --> 00:01:03,062 >> FAR FROM THE ARCTIC'S ICY 27 00:01:03,129 --> 00:01:04,230 WATERS, THIS LONE WALRUS HAS 28 00:01:04,297 --> 00:01:05,598 SANK SEVERAL SMALL BOATS AND 29 00:01:05,665 --> 00:01:07,033 INFLATABLES IN DENMARK, 30 00:01:07,100 --> 00:01:08,334 SCOTLAND, THE NETHERLANDS, AND 31 00:01:08,401 --> 00:01:09,235 NOW NORWAY IN HER ATTEMPT TO 32 00:01:09,302 --> 00:01:10,503 SUNBATHE. 33 00:01:10,570 --> 00:01:12,105 >> THE DAMAGE FROM A 700 KILO 34 00:01:12,172 --> 00:01:12,705 WALRUS ON YOUR BOAT CAN BE 35 00:01:12,772 --> 00:01:14,407 EXTENSIVE. 36 00:01:14,474 --> 00:01:16,409 ESPECIALLY WHEN SHE CHOOSES A 37 00:01:16,476 --> 00:01:19,712 VESSEL THAT'S NOT WALRUS-WORTHY. 38 00:01:19,779 --> 00:01:20,547 [LAUGHTER] 39 00:01:20,613 --> 00:01:21,815 UNSURPRISINGLY, BOAT OWNERS 40 00:01:21,881 --> 00:01:22,615 AREN'T EXCITED TO SHARE WITH 41 00:01:22,682 --> 00:01:23,483 FREYA. 42 00:01:23,550 --> 00:01:24,484 >> I DON'T WANT IT ON THE DOCK 43 00:01:24,551 --> 00:01:28,254 OR ON MY BOAT. 44 00:01:28,321 --> 00:01:29,055 JUST GET IT AWAY FROM HERE. 45 00:01:29,122 --> 00:01:30,156 >> John: NO! 46 00:01:30,223 --> 00:01:30,924 DON'T DO THAT! 47 00:01:30,990 --> 00:01:31,925 BECAUSE I LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT 48 00:01:31,991 --> 00:01:34,661 NORWAY BEING TERRORIZED BY A 49 00:01:34,727 --> 00:01:40,133 WALRUS IN VACATION MODE, SINKING 50 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:40,633 BOATS LIKE THEY'RE THREE 51 00:01:40,700 --> 00:01:41,801 POINTERS. 52 00:01:41,868 --> 00:01:43,002 BUT ALSO, FREYA'S NOT A MOSQUITO 53 00:01:43,069 --> 00:01:49,242 YOU CAN JUST SWAT AWAY, SHE'S A 54 00:01:49,309 --> 00:01:49,809 1,300 POUND WATER QUEEN, AND 55 00:01:49,876 --> 00:01:50,877 GUESS WHAT? 56 00:01:50,944 --> 00:01:52,045 SHE'S THE CAPTAIN NOW. 57 00:01:52,111 --> 00:01:53,012 BUT BOATS AREN'T THE ONLY THING 58 00:01:53,079 --> 00:01:53,780 BEING UPENDED IN EUROPE. 59 00:01:53,847 --> 00:01:54,814 MULTIPLE COUNTRIES ARE IN THE 60 00:01:54,881 --> 00:01:55,615 PROCESS OF CHOOSING NEW LEADERS, 61 00:01:55,682 --> 00:01:56,549 INCLUDING THE UK, WHERE BORIS 62 00:01:56,616 --> 00:01:57,383 JOHNSON FINALLY STEPPED DOWN 63 00:01:57,450 --> 00:01:58,184 EARLIER THIS MONTH, AFTER 64 00:01:58,251 --> 00:01:58,985 SUCCUMBING TO A SERIES OF 65 00:01:59,052 --> 00:02:01,187 SCANDALS. 66 00:02:01,254 --> 00:02:02,188 [APPLAUSE] 67 00:02:02,255 --> 00:02:03,423 AND IN DOING SO, OFFERED THIS 68 00:02:03,490 --> 00:02:04,858 INSPIRING FAREWELL. 69 00:02:04,924 --> 00:02:05,959 >> I WANT YOU TO KNOW HOW SAD I 70 00:02:06,025 --> 00:02:07,160 AM TO BE GIVING UP THE BEST JOB 71 00:02:07,227 --> 00:02:09,162 IN THE WORLD. 72 00:02:09,229 --> 00:02:12,365 BUT THEM'S THE BREAKS. 73 00:02:12,432 --> 00:02:13,466 [LAUGHTER] 74 00:02:13,533 --> 00:02:14,200 >> John: YEAH, THEM'S THE 75 00:02:14,267 --> 00:02:15,235 BREAKS! 76 00:02:15,301 --> 00:02:16,169 SOMETIMES YOU DRIVE YOUR 77 00:02:16,236 --> 00:02:17,103 COUNTRY OFF A MASSIVE ECONOMIC 78 00:02:17,170 --> 00:02:18,071 CLIFF FOR NO REASON, THEN ATTEND 79 00:02:18,137 --> 00:02:19,005 A SERIES OF ALCOHOLIC BASHES IN 80 00:02:19,072 --> 00:02:20,039 VIOLATION OF YOUR OWN 81 00:02:20,106 --> 00:02:21,574 GOVERNMENT'S COVID LOCKDOWNS, 82 00:02:21,641 --> 00:02:23,543 THEN PROMOTE A MEMBER OF YOUR 83 00:02:23,610 --> 00:02:24,611 OWN PARTY ACCUSED OF SEXUAL 84 00:02:24,677 --> 00:02:25,445 MISCONDUCT, LATER CLAIMING YOU 85 00:02:25,512 --> 00:02:26,379 DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT, 86 00:02:26,446 --> 00:02:27,780 ONLY FOR IT TO TURN OUT THAT 87 00:02:27,847 --> 00:02:28,448 WASN'T TRUE AND FOR MUCH OF YOUR 88 00:02:28,515 --> 00:02:29,382 GOVERNMENT TO RESIGN RATHER THAN 89 00:02:29,449 --> 00:02:30,149 CONTINUE WORKING FOR YOU. 90 00:02:30,216 --> 00:02:32,719 YOU KNOW, THE BREAKS. 91 00:02:32,785 --> 00:02:33,953 [LAUGHTER] 92 00:02:34,020 --> 00:02:34,888 AND WITH BORIS STANDING DOWN, 93 00:02:34,954 --> 00:02:35,955 THE NEXT PRIME MINISTER WILL BE 94 00:02:36,022 --> 00:02:36,623 CHOSEN BY HIS PARTY, WHICH HAS 95 00:02:36,689 --> 00:02:37,557 NARROWED THE FIELD TO TWO 96 00:02:37,624 --> 00:02:39,225 CANDIDATES. 97 00:02:39,292 --> 00:02:39,893 THE FIRST IS RISHI SUNAK, FORMER 98 00:02:39,959 --> 00:02:41,327 FINANCE MINISTER. 99 00:02:41,394 --> 00:02:42,595 HE'S MADE A PLAY FOR SOCIAL 100 00:02:42,662 --> 00:02:43,863 CONSERVATIVES BY ATTACKING "WOKE 101 00:02:43,930 --> 00:02:45,999 NONSENSE" THIS WEEK. 102 00:02:46,065 --> 00:02:47,734 BUT HE'S ALSO AN INCREDIBLY 103 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:48,935 WEALTHY MAN WHO WAS EDUCATED AT 104 00:02:49,002 --> 00:02:49,836 ONE OF THE MOST EXCLUSIVE 105 00:02:49,903 --> 00:02:51,170 PRIVATE SCHOOLS IN ENGLAND, 106 00:02:51,237 --> 00:02:52,338 ALTHOUGH IT DIDN'T SEEM TO 107 00:02:52,405 --> 00:02:53,172 SUCCESSFULLY TEACH HIM WHAT TO 108 00:02:53,239 --> 00:02:55,909 DO WITH HIS ARMS. 109 00:02:55,975 --> 00:02:56,876 >> IT'S GREAT TO BE AT THE 110 00:02:56,943 --> 00:02:57,510 CHANNEL 4 STUDIOS FOR TONIGHT'S 111 00:02:57,577 --> 00:02:59,913 DEBATE. 112 00:02:59,979 --> 00:03:01,047 [LAUGHTER] 113 00:03:01,114 --> 00:03:01,915 WE'VE GOT A BRILLIANT MESSAGE 114 00:03:01,981 --> 00:03:02,782 AND I'M PUMPED TO BE ABLE TO 115 00:03:02,849 --> 00:03:04,017 TALK MORE ABOUT IT THIS EVENING. 116 00:03:04,083 --> 00:03:04,684 THANKS ALSO FOR ALL YOUR 117 00:03:04,751 --> 00:03:07,387 CONTINUED SUPPORT. 118 00:03:07,453 --> 00:03:09,255 ALL THE OFFERS OF HELP, THE 119 00:03:09,322 --> 00:03:09,789 EMAILS, AND THE TWEETS ARE 120 00:03:09,856 --> 00:03:11,024 AMAZING, KEEP THEM COMING. 121 00:03:11,090 --> 00:03:13,726 >> John: WHAT ARE YOU DOING? 122 00:03:13,793 --> 00:03:14,928 [LAUGHTER] 123 00:03:14,994 --> 00:03:15,628 WHAT IS IT ABOUT RICH PEOPLE AND 124 00:03:15,695 --> 00:03:16,896 HAND MOVEMENTS? 125 00:03:16,963 --> 00:03:17,830 SUNAK LOOKS LIKE HE'S STUDIED AT 126 00:03:17,897 --> 00:03:18,865 THE ZUCKERBERG SCHOOL OF PASSING 127 00:03:18,932 --> 00:03:20,466 FOR A HUMAN. 128 00:03:20,533 --> 00:03:22,402 AND THAT'S NOT EVEN A ONE-OFF! 129 00:03:22,468 --> 00:03:24,671 HE MOVES HIS HANDS LIKE THAT ALL 130 00:03:24,737 --> 00:03:26,105 THE FUCKING TIME! 131 00:03:26,172 --> 00:03:27,040 AND NORMALLY YOU WANT YOUR HANDS 132 00:03:27,106 --> 00:03:28,341 TO SUPPORT AND ACCENTUATE WHAT 133 00:03:28,408 --> 00:03:29,542 YOU'RE SAYING, NOT TO LOOK LIKE 134 00:03:29,609 --> 00:03:31,277 YOU'RE IN A BOXING MATCH WITH A 135 00:03:31,344 --> 00:03:32,946 HUNDRED INVISIBLE MICE. 136 00:03:33,012 --> 00:03:34,380 IF YOU ARE GOING TO CHOOSE TO 137 00:03:34,447 --> 00:03:37,784 WAVE YOUR HANDS AROUND LIKE 138 00:03:37,850 --> 00:03:38,351 THAT, THE LEAST YOU CAN DO IS 139 00:03:38,418 --> 00:03:40,253 PUT SOME PUPPETS ON THEM. 140 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:41,654 [LAUGHTER] 141 00:03:41,721 --> 00:03:42,822 ALSO, FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, ONE 142 00:03:42,889 --> 00:03:43,890 OF SUNAK'S CAMPAIGN PROMISES IS 143 00:03:43,957 --> 00:03:44,924 THAT BRITAIN'S NATIONAL HEALTH 144 00:03:44,991 --> 00:03:46,159 SERVICE WILL BE SAFE IN HIS 145 00:03:46,225 --> 00:03:48,595 HANDS, BUT GIVEN WHAT YOU'VE 146 00:03:48,661 --> 00:03:53,666 JUST SEEN HIM DO WITH THEM, I 147 00:03:53,733 --> 00:03:55,268 FUCKING DOUBT THAT'S TRUE. 148 00:03:55,335 --> 00:03:56,502 BUT LUCKILY FOR SUNAK, HIS 149 00:03:56,569 --> 00:03:57,070 RIVAL, LIZ TRUSS, IS SOMEHOW 150 00:03:57,136 --> 00:03:57,904 EVEN MORE AWKWARD. 151 00:03:57,971 --> 00:03:59,439 LOOK, I COULD SHOW YOU PLENTY OF 152 00:03:59,505 --> 00:04:00,340 EXAMPLES, OR I COULD JUST SHOW 153 00:04:00,406 --> 00:04:01,074 YOU THE EIGHT SECONDS THAT 154 00:04:01,140 --> 00:04:02,041 REALLY CAPTURE HER ENTIRE 155 00:04:02,108 --> 00:04:03,910 SPIRIT. 156 00:04:03,977 --> 00:04:06,946 >> IN DECEMBER, I'LL BE IN 157 00:04:07,013 --> 00:04:07,714 BEIJING, OPENING UP NEW PORK 158 00:04:07,780 --> 00:04:10,516 MARKETS! 159 00:04:10,583 --> 00:04:11,918 [LAUGHTER] 160 00:04:11,985 --> 00:04:12,919 >> John: WHAT IS HAPPENING 161 00:04:12,986 --> 00:04:14,988 THERE? 162 00:04:15,054 --> 00:04:15,755 SOMEHOW TRUSS COMES OFF AS 163 00:04:15,822 --> 00:04:17,223 HALF-KINDERGARTEN TEACHER, 164 00:04:17,290 --> 00:04:19,692 HALF-KINDERGARTEN STUDENT. 165 00:04:19,759 --> 00:04:20,660 SHE'S GIVING OFF THE VIBE THERE 166 00:04:20,727 --> 00:04:22,061 OF A KID WHO WAS CAST AS 167 00:04:22,128 --> 00:04:23,563 "WHO #14" IN AN ELEMENTARY 168 00:04:23,630 --> 00:04:25,331 SCHOOL PRODUCTION OF "SEUSSICAL: 169 00:04:25,398 --> 00:04:27,300 THE MUSICAL" BECAUSE THAT IS AN 170 00:04:27,367 --> 00:04:28,735 ENERGY THAT CAN ONLY BE 171 00:04:28,801 --> 00:04:29,902 DESCRIBED AS "I SAID MY THING, 172 00:04:29,969 --> 00:04:30,937 MY PARENTS SAW IT, CAN I GO HOME 173 00:04:31,004 --> 00:04:33,873 NOW?" 174 00:04:33,940 --> 00:04:34,941 [LAUGHTER] 175 00:04:35,008 --> 00:04:36,442 TRUSS HAS A REAL KNACK FOR 176 00:04:36,509 --> 00:04:37,710 MAKING BAD DECISIONS, AND THEN 177 00:04:37,777 --> 00:04:39,278 STICKING TO THEM, EXEMPLIFIED BY 178 00:04:39,345 --> 00:04:42,515 THE FACT THAT THIS TWEET PAYING 179 00:04:42,582 --> 00:04:43,282 TRIBUTE TO JIMMY SAVILE -- WHO 180 00:04:43,349 --> 00:04:44,417 TURNED OUT TO BE A MONSTROUS 181 00:04:44,484 --> 00:04:48,721 PEDOPHILE -- HAS STILL NOT BEEN 182 00:04:48,788 --> 00:04:49,522 DELETED 11 YEARS LATER, NOR 183 00:04:49,589 --> 00:04:50,456 HAS THIS TWEET FROM A DECADE 184 00:04:50,523 --> 00:04:51,391 AGO, WHERE SHE SEEMS TO BE 185 00:04:51,457 --> 00:04:53,693 SEARCHING FOR HER OWN NAME. 186 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,094 [LAUGHTER] 187 00:04:55,161 --> 00:04:57,597 AND WHILE TRUSS IS CAMPAIGNING 188 00:04:57,664 --> 00:04:58,498 ON HER ABILITY TO GET RESULTS, 189 00:04:58,564 --> 00:04:59,232 THAT MAY BE A TOUGH SELL, GIVEN 190 00:04:59,298 --> 00:05:00,566 HER PARTY'S RECORD IN 191 00:05:00,633 --> 00:05:01,200 GOVERNMENT, WHICH WAS BRUTALLY 192 00:05:01,267 --> 00:05:02,869 EXPOSED IN THIS INTERVIEW A FEW 193 00:05:02,935 --> 00:05:06,372 YEARS AGO. 194 00:05:06,439 --> 00:05:07,740 >> YOU HAD A PLAN IN 2014 TO 195 00:05:07,807 --> 00:05:09,642 BUILD 200,000 NEW STARTER HOMES. 196 00:05:09,709 --> 00:05:11,210 THAT WAS FIVE YEARS AGO. 197 00:05:11,277 --> 00:05:13,413 HOW MANY DID YOU BUILD? 198 00:05:13,479 --> 00:05:14,681 >> WELL, THERE HAVEN'T BEEN AS 199 00:05:14,747 --> 00:05:16,282 MANY STARTER HOMES AS WE WOULD 200 00:05:16,349 --> 00:05:19,752 HAVE LIKED, ANDREW. 201 00:05:19,819 --> 00:05:22,388 >> HOW MANY DID YOU BUILD? 202 00:05:22,455 --> 00:05:23,489 >> I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT 203 00:05:23,556 --> 00:05:25,692 NUMBERS FOR YOU. 204 00:05:25,758 --> 00:05:26,659 >> WELL, IT'S EASY TO REMEMBER: 205 00:05:26,726 --> 00:05:27,360 IT'S ZERO. 206 00:05:27,427 --> 00:05:31,197 YOU BUILT NONE. 207 00:05:31,264 --> 00:05:31,831 >> John: OUCH. 208 00:05:31,898 --> 00:05:32,865 NOT GREAT. 209 00:05:32,932 --> 00:05:33,566 BUT TAKE A MINUTE TO APPRECIATE 210 00:05:33,633 --> 00:05:34,400 THE INTERVIEWER WHO MADE A WHOLE 211 00:05:34,467 --> 00:05:35,168 MEAL OUT OF THAT GOTCHA. 212 00:05:35,234 --> 00:05:35,935 HIS BODY LANGUAGE, TONE, AND 213 00:05:36,002 --> 00:05:36,669 GLASSES POSITION IS BBC 214 00:05:36,736 --> 00:05:37,403 SHORTHAND FOR "HELLO, I'M ABOUT 215 00:05:37,470 --> 00:05:38,304 TO BE A HUGE BITCH." 216 00:05:38,371 --> 00:05:39,338 "ZERO, THAT'S EASY TO REMEMBER, 217 00:05:39,405 --> 00:05:40,339 RIGHT? 218 00:05:40,406 --> 00:05:41,574 YOU JUST TAKE WHAT YOU SET OUT 219 00:05:41,641 --> 00:05:42,408 TO ACHIEVE AND THEN SUBTRACT ALL 220 00:05:42,475 --> 00:05:45,111 OF IT." 221 00:05:45,178 --> 00:05:46,946 [LAUGHTER] 222 00:05:47,013 --> 00:05:48,281 SO NEITHER OF THE OPTIONS FOR 223 00:05:48,347 --> 00:05:49,582 LEADER ARE GOOD HERE, AND THE 224 00:05:49,649 --> 00:05:50,783 FACT IS, WHOEVER WINS WILL BE 225 00:05:50,850 --> 00:05:52,485 INHERITING A POISONED CHALICE. 226 00:05:52,552 --> 00:05:56,122 BORIS JOHNSON, THE MAN BOTH OF 227 00:05:56,189 --> 00:05:57,724 THEM HAVE SPENT YEARS ENABLING, 228 00:05:57,790 --> 00:06:00,126 HAS BROKEN A LOT OF SHIT THAT 229 00:06:00,193 --> 00:06:01,994 THEY WILL NOW HAVE TO CLEAN UP. 230 00:06:02,061 --> 00:06:02,862 BUT I GUESS, IN THE WORDS OF 231 00:06:02,929 --> 00:06:03,796 EUROPE'S SECOND MOST UNWANTED 232 00:06:03,863 --> 00:06:06,132 MAMMAL, "THEM'S THE BREAKS." 233 00:06:06,199 --> 00:06:07,867 [LAUGHTER] 234 00:06:07,934 --> 00:06:11,104 AND NOW THIS. 235 00:06:11,170 --> 00:06:13,473 >> Announcer: AND NOW, PEOPLE 236 00:06:13,539 --> 00:06:14,407 ON TV DAYDREAMING ABOUT WINNING 237 00:06:14,474 --> 00:06:17,043 THE LOTTERY. 238 00:06:17,110 --> 00:06:18,911 >> EVERY LOTTERY STORY FROM 239 00:06:18,978 --> 00:06:19,679 TOPEKA TO NATIONAL NEWS, THIS IS 240 00:06:19,746 --> 00:06:22,648 WHAT WE DO, WE DREAM. 241 00:06:22,715 --> 00:06:24,150 >> THEN THE ANCHOR, WE ARE 242 00:06:24,217 --> 00:06:27,086 SUPPOSED TO SAY, WHAT WOULD YOU 243 00:06:27,153 --> 00:06:27,754 DO IF YOU WIN? 244 00:06:27,820 --> 00:06:30,690 >> I WOULD SHARE THAT MONEY WITH 245 00:06:30,757 --> 00:06:31,991 EVERYBODY! 246 00:06:32,058 --> 00:06:32,959 SPEAK OF THE BIG QUESTION IS, 247 00:06:33,025 --> 00:06:35,328 WOULD YOU COME BACK TO WORK? 248 00:06:35,394 --> 00:06:36,829 >> OF COURSE NOT. 249 00:06:36,896 --> 00:06:40,032 >> HAVE YOU EVER WON THE 250 00:06:40,099 --> 00:06:40,433 LOTTERY? 251 00:06:40,500 --> 00:06:43,035 >> NO, BECAUSE I AM STILL 252 00:06:43,102 --> 00:06:43,369 SITTING HERE. 253 00:06:43,436 --> 00:06:45,905 >> YOU WOULD NEVER SEE ME AGAIN. 254 00:06:45,972 --> 00:06:48,441 >> YOU WILL NEVER SEE ME AGAIN. 255 00:06:48,508 --> 00:06:48,875 I'M GONE. 256 00:06:48,941 --> 00:06:50,910 >> I WILL BE ON A REMOTE ISLAND 257 00:06:50,977 --> 00:06:53,146 YOU'VE NEVER HEARD. 258 00:06:53,212 --> 00:06:54,914 >> I WOULD KEEP WORKING HERE 259 00:06:54,981 --> 00:06:55,248 WORKING HERE. 260 00:06:55,314 --> 00:06:57,350 >> I WOULD CHANGE MY NAME, I 261 00:06:57,416 --> 00:06:59,819 LOVE YOU, BOB, I LOVE YOU, 262 00:06:59,886 --> 00:07:01,020 BARBARA. 263 00:07:01,087 --> 00:07:02,088 >> I WOULD NOT QUIT MY JOB. 264 00:07:02,155 --> 00:07:04,657 >> WOULD NOW? 265 00:07:04,724 --> 00:07:06,692 >> NO, THAT'S WHAT THEY ALWAYS 266 00:07:06,759 --> 00:07:07,627 SAY, I WAS JUST JOINING IN. 267 00:07:07,693 --> 00:07:08,995 OF COURSE I WOULD BE OUT OF 268 00:07:09,061 --> 00:07:09,195 HERE. 269 00:07:09,262 --> 00:07:15,568 [LAUGHTER] 270 00:07:15,635 --> 00:07:16,536 >> John: MOVING ON. 271 00:07:16,602 --> 00:07:17,470 OUR MAIN STORY TONIGHT CONCERNS 272 00:07:17,537 --> 00:07:17,904 MENTAL HEALTHCARE. 273 00:07:17,970 --> 00:07:18,905 A SUBJECT THAT, HISTORICALLY, 274 00:07:18,971 --> 00:07:19,539 HUMANS HAVE NOT HANDLED 275 00:07:19,605 --> 00:07:21,340 PARTICULARLY WELL. 276 00:07:21,407 --> 00:07:23,042 >> TO A FAMOUS BOND STREET 277 00:07:23,109 --> 00:07:25,578 BEAUTY PARLOR COME A BUNCH OF 278 00:07:25,645 --> 00:07:26,112 PRETTY NURSES. 279 00:07:26,179 --> 00:07:26,979 THEY'RE GREETED BY DIRECTOR MS. 280 00:07:27,046 --> 00:07:27,780 ELEANOR MCDONALD. 281 00:07:27,847 --> 00:07:28,514 THEY'RE HERE NOT AS CUSTOMERS 282 00:07:28,581 --> 00:07:30,016 BUT AS STUDENTS. 283 00:07:30,082 --> 00:07:30,883 MS. McDONALD PERSONALLY TEACHES 284 00:07:30,950 --> 00:07:31,450 A NEW GROUP OF HALF A DOZEN 285 00:07:31,517 --> 00:07:31,884 EVERY MONTH. 286 00:07:31,951 --> 00:07:32,985 IT'S AN OFFICIAL PART OF THEIR 287 00:07:33,052 --> 00:07:33,352 TRAINING. 288 00:07:33,419 --> 00:07:34,587 IF YOU CAN PERSUADE A MENTALLY 289 00:07:34,654 --> 00:07:35,188 ILL WOMAN TO TAKE INTEREST AND 290 00:07:35,254 --> 00:07:35,888 PRIDE IN HER APPEARANCE, YOU MAY 291 00:07:35,955 --> 00:07:36,489 EVEN SWING THE BALANCE BETWEEN 292 00:07:36,556 --> 00:07:42,595 DESPAIR AND RECOVERY. 293 00:07:42,662 --> 00:07:44,697 >> John: "YES, THOSE PESKY WOMEN 294 00:07:44,764 --> 00:07:46,933 JUST NEED A LITTLE PEP IN THEIR 295 00:07:46,999 --> 00:07:47,533 STEP. 296 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:48,401 A LITTLE DRIP ON THEIR LIP, A 297 00:07:48,467 --> 00:07:49,202 LITTLE FLASH ON THEIR LASH. 298 00:07:49,268 --> 00:07:49,702 LOOK AT ME! 299 00:07:49,769 --> 00:07:52,505 I'M A BRITISH VOICE FROM THE 300 00:07:52,572 --> 00:07:53,072 1950s, SETTING THE COURSE OF 301 00:07:53,139 --> 00:07:53,906 SCIENCE FOR DECADES TO COME." 302 00:07:53,973 --> 00:07:55,174 I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S MORE 303 00:07:55,241 --> 00:07:55,908 ALARMING THERE -- NURSES BEING 304 00:07:55,975 --> 00:07:56,742 FORCED TO TAKE ON THE SKILLS OF 305 00:07:56,809 --> 00:07:57,610 A SEPHORA BRAND AMBASSADOR OR 306 00:07:57,677 --> 00:08:01,681 THE FACT THAT "CAN MAKE-UP CURE 307 00:08:01,747 --> 00:08:03,950 SAD?" SOUNDS LIKE AN EPISODE 308 00:08:04,016 --> 00:08:05,318 DR. OZ DEFINITELY DID. 309 00:08:05,384 --> 00:08:06,552 NOW, THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT SINCE 310 00:08:06,619 --> 00:08:07,286 THEN, WE'VE GOT MORE COMFORTABLE 311 00:08:07,353 --> 00:08:11,157 TALKING ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH, 312 00:08:11,224 --> 00:08:12,091 WITH PSAs LIKE THIS, FROM 313 00:08:12,158 --> 00:08:13,359 2010, TRYING TO DESTIGMATIZE IT. 314 00:08:13,426 --> 00:08:14,827 >> IN THE ALL-AMERICAN HEALTH 315 00:08:14,894 --> 00:08:17,797 CARE SYSTEM, THERE IS COVERAGE 316 00:08:17,864 --> 00:08:18,764 FOR HEART HEALTH, CARE FOR 317 00:08:18,831 --> 00:08:20,299 CANCER. 318 00:08:20,366 --> 00:08:21,200 >> BUT THE ALL-AMERICAN BRAIN IS 319 00:08:21,267 --> 00:08:21,834 GETTING LOST IN THE SHUFFLE. 320 00:08:21,901 --> 00:08:22,602 BRAIN TUMOR, FINE. 321 00:08:22,668 --> 00:08:24,003 BRAIN DISEASE, NOT SO FINE. 322 00:08:24,070 --> 00:08:24,737 >> THERE'S NO STIGMA OR 323 00:08:24,804 --> 00:08:25,404 DISCRIMINATION AGAINST THE 324 00:08:25,471 --> 00:08:26,405 HEART, THE LIVER, THE KIDNEY, 325 00:08:26,472 --> 00:08:27,707 AND THE GALLBLADDER. 326 00:08:27,773 --> 00:08:28,541 DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A JOB. 327 00:08:28,608 --> 00:08:30,476 >> YESTERDAY, DEPRESSION WAS 328 00:08:30,543 --> 00:08:32,678 KEPT IN THE DARK. 329 00:08:32,745 --> 00:08:33,546 >> OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE THE 330 00:08:33,613 --> 00:08:36,515 DISCUSSION OF MENTAL DISEASE 331 00:08:36,582 --> 00:08:37,283 COOL AND TRENDY. 332 00:08:37,350 --> 00:08:37,550 [LAUGHTER] 333 00:08:37,617 --> 00:08:38,217 >> LET'S TEAR DOWN THE STIGMA 334 00:08:38,284 --> 00:08:39,185 SURROUNDING MENTAL ILLNESS. 335 00:08:39,252 --> 00:08:40,486 >> I'M MAD ABOUT FEELING GOOD. 336 00:08:40,553 --> 00:08:41,287 >> NO KIDDING. 337 00:08:41,354 --> 00:08:42,622 >> ME TOO. 338 00:08:42,688 --> 00:08:43,089 >> NO KIDDING. 339 00:08:43,155 --> 00:08:44,757 >> ME TOO. 340 00:08:44,824 --> 00:08:46,292 >> NO KIDDING, ME TOO! 341 00:08:46,359 --> 00:08:47,627 >> IT'S TIME WE GAVE THE 342 00:08:47,693 --> 00:08:48,261 ALL-AMERICAN BRAIN SOME PEACE OF 343 00:08:48,327 --> 00:08:52,865 MIND. 344 00:08:52,932 --> 00:08:53,666 >> John: WOW. 345 00:08:53,733 --> 00:08:54,800 HARD TO PICK A FAVORITE MOMENT 346 00:08:54,867 --> 00:08:57,637 THERE, FROM CHAZZ PALMINTERI 347 00:08:57,703 --> 00:08:58,371 USING A MENTAL HEALTH PSA AS 348 00:08:58,437 --> 00:08:59,005 AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROMOTE HIS 349 00:08:59,071 --> 00:09:00,673 FAVORITE BRONX PASTA PLACE, TO 350 00:09:00,740 --> 00:09:03,776 THE STUDIO AUDIENCE SHOUTING "ME 351 00:09:03,843 --> 00:09:04,610 TOO!" SEVEN YEARS BEFORE THAT 352 00:09:04,677 --> 00:09:09,682 WOULD MEAN SOMETHING VERY 353 00:09:09,749 --> 00:09:10,449 DIFFERENT, TO HARRISON FORD 354 00:09:10,516 --> 00:09:11,083 SAYING THE GALL BLADDER DOESN'T 355 00:09:11,150 --> 00:09:13,619 HAVE A JOB. 356 00:09:13,686 --> 00:09:15,121 WHAT? 357 00:09:15,187 --> 00:09:16,255 IT STORES AND RELEASES BILE, 358 00:09:16,322 --> 00:09:16,856 HARRISON -- BILE THAT HELPS 359 00:09:16,923 --> 00:09:17,723 DIGEST FATS IN THE FOOD YOU EAT. 360 00:09:17,790 --> 00:09:18,591 DOESN'T HAVE A -- MAYBE YOU'RE 361 00:09:18,658 --> 00:09:19,325 THINKING OF THE APPENDIX? 362 00:09:19,392 --> 00:09:20,259 SURE, THAT'S A TOTAL FREELOADER, 363 00:09:20,326 --> 00:09:21,060 BUT NOT THE TIRELESS DIGESTIVE 364 00:09:21,127 --> 00:09:21,694 JUICE COLLECTING-AND-DISPENSING 365 00:09:21,761 --> 00:09:22,461 GALLBLADDER, HARRISON. 366 00:09:22,528 --> 00:09:24,230 THIS BILE SACK ERASURE WILL NOT 367 00:09:24,297 --> 00:09:26,065 STAND! 368 00:09:26,132 --> 00:09:27,266 [LAUGHTER] 369 00:09:27,333 --> 00:09:28,467 NOW, AS CHAOTICALLY AS THAT 370 00:09:28,534 --> 00:09:29,335 MESSAGE WAS PRESENTED, IT WAS 371 00:09:29,402 --> 00:09:35,408 CLEARLY WELL-INTENTIONED, 372 00:09:35,474 --> 00:09:36,075 BECAUSE THERE SHOULD NOT BE A 373 00:09:36,142 --> 00:09:36,943 STIGMA AROUND SEEKING HELP FOR 374 00:09:37,009 --> 00:09:37,443 MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. 375 00:09:37,510 --> 00:09:38,511 ESPECIALLY NOW, GIVEN THAT, OVER 376 00:09:38,577 --> 00:09:39,178 THE LAST TWO YEARS, WE'VE SEEN A 377 00:09:39,245 --> 00:09:39,879 SPIKE IN THEM. 378 00:09:39,946 --> 00:09:40,813 DURING THE PANDEMIC, ABOUT FOUR 379 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:41,580 IN TEN ADULTS IN THE U.S. 380 00:09:41,647 --> 00:09:42,782 HAVE REPORTED SYMPTOMS OF 381 00:09:42,848 --> 00:09:47,453 ANXIETY OR DEPRESSIVE DISORDER, 382 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:48,421 UP FROM ONE IN TEN WHO REPORTED 383 00:09:48,487 --> 00:09:48,955 THEM A YEAR BEFORE. 384 00:09:49,021 --> 00:09:49,722 IT MAY HELP EXPLAIN WHY, FOR 385 00:09:49,789 --> 00:09:50,756 THAT ONE MONTH LAST YEAR, 386 00:09:50,823 --> 00:09:52,291 EVERYONE ON THE INTERNET 387 00:09:52,358 --> 00:09:52,858 SUDDENLY STARTED SINGING SEA 388 00:09:52,925 --> 00:09:54,860 SHANTIES. 389 00:09:54,927 --> 00:10:00,633 [LAUGHTER] 390 00:10:00,700 --> 00:10:02,768 IT WAS CLEARLY A COLLECTIVE CRY 391 00:10:02,835 --> 00:10:03,936 FOR HELP. 392 00:10:04,003 --> 00:10:04,537 SO ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO "TALK 393 00:10:04,603 --> 00:10:05,371 TO SOMEONE" IS A GOOD IDEA. 394 00:10:05,438 --> 00:10:05,972 BUT AS PEOPLE INCREASINGLY DO 395 00:10:06,038 --> 00:10:06,973 SEEK HELP, THEY'RE DISCOVERING A 396 00:10:07,039 --> 00:10:08,074 SYSTEM THAT'S JUST NOT SET UP TO 397 00:10:08,140 --> 00:10:08,741 PROVIDE IT. 398 00:10:08,808 --> 00:10:11,444 THERE HAVE LONG BEEN WAITLISTS 399 00:10:11,510 --> 00:10:12,278 TO SEE A THERAPIST, BUT IT'S 400 00:10:12,345 --> 00:10:13,145 GOTTEN SIGNIFICANTLY WORSE SINCE 401 00:10:13,212 --> 00:10:14,680 THE PANDEMIC, WITH 65% OF 402 00:10:14,747 --> 00:10:15,514 PSYCHOLOGISTS REPORTING THEY HAD 403 00:10:15,581 --> 00:10:18,017 "NO CAPACITY FOR NEW PATIENTS." 404 00:10:18,084 --> 00:10:19,585 IN FACT, MORE THAN HALF THE 405 00:10:19,652 --> 00:10:20,586 PEOPLE WHO NEED MENTAL HEALTH 406 00:10:20,653 --> 00:10:23,022 CARE DO NOT RECEIVE IT. 407 00:10:23,089 --> 00:10:24,390 WITH THAT RATE BEING EVEN HIGHER 408 00:10:24,457 --> 00:10:27,360 FOR MINORITY POPULATIONS. 409 00:10:27,426 --> 00:10:29,595 EMERGENCY ROOMS ARE NOW BECOMING 410 00:10:29,662 --> 00:10:31,297 OVERLOADED, WITH PEOPLE, AND 411 00:10:31,364 --> 00:10:32,498 ESPECIALLY CHILDREN, WHO HAVE 412 00:10:32,565 --> 00:10:33,566 NOWHERE ELSE TO GO, STUCK IN 413 00:10:33,632 --> 00:10:35,201 BEDS THERE, BECAUSE THERE'S NO 414 00:10:35,267 --> 00:10:36,068 SPACE IN PROPER FACILITIES TO 415 00:10:36,135 --> 00:10:39,238 TREAT THEM. 416 00:10:39,305 --> 00:10:42,541 JUST TAKE THIS COUPLE, WHOSE 417 00:10:42,608 --> 00:10:43,075 14-YEAR-OLD WAS IN CRISIS, 418 00:10:43,142 --> 00:10:43,843 AND WHO FOLLOWED THEIR 419 00:10:43,909 --> 00:10:48,247 PEDIATRICIAN'S ADVICE TO GO 420 00:10:48,314 --> 00:10:49,915 STRAIGHT TO THE E.R. WITH HIM. 421 00:10:49,982 --> 00:10:52,551 >> I REMEMBER WE GOT OUT OF THE 422 00:10:52,618 --> 00:10:53,185 CAR, WE HUGGED HIM AND WE SAID, 423 00:10:53,252 --> 00:10:53,786 WE'RE GOING TO DO WHATEVER IT 424 00:10:53,853 --> 00:10:54,553 TAKES TO HELP YOU, WHATEVER IT 425 00:10:54,620 --> 00:10:55,855 TAKES. 426 00:10:55,921 --> 00:10:57,890 >> BUT ONCE INSIDE, STAFF TOLD 427 00:10:57,957 --> 00:11:00,292 THEM THERE WAS NO SPACE ACROSS 428 00:11:00,359 --> 00:11:00,860 THE STATE FOR MENTAL HEALTH 429 00:11:00,926 --> 00:11:01,394 SERVICES. 430 00:11:01,460 --> 00:11:07,833 SO THEY WERE ADMITTED TO THE 431 00:11:07,900 --> 00:11:08,801 E.D., WHERE 15 OTHER CHILDREN 432 00:11:08,868 --> 00:11:11,037 WERE ALSO WAITING. 433 00:11:11,103 --> 00:11:11,771 THEIR SON HAS SPENT 27 DAYS AT 434 00:11:11,837 --> 00:11:13,039 CHILDREN'S WAITING. 435 00:11:13,105 --> 00:11:16,909 >> YOU COME IN FOR HELP AND 436 00:11:16,976 --> 00:11:17,543 YOU'RE DESPERATE FOR IT, AND YOU 437 00:11:17,610 --> 00:11:21,113 CAN'T GET IT. 438 00:11:21,180 --> 00:11:31,857 >> John: THAT KID WAS STUCK 439 00:11:31,924 --> 00:11:33,826 WAITING IN THE E.R. FOR 27 DAYS. 440 00:11:33,893 --> 00:11:34,960 AND SET ASIDE THE FACT THAT'S 441 00:11:35,027 --> 00:11:35,561 NOT THE MOST CALMING PLACE FOR 442 00:11:35,628 --> 00:11:36,162 SOMEONE EXPERIENCING A CRISIS, 443 00:11:36,228 --> 00:11:36,996 YOU CAN'T JUST PUT OFF MENTAL 444 00:11:37,063 --> 00:11:37,630 HEALTHCARE INDEFINITELY. 445 00:11:37,696 --> 00:11:41,567 IT'S NOT A CHECK ENGINE LIGHT, 446 00:11:41,634 --> 00:11:43,636 OR A "NEW YORKER" ARTICLE YOU'RE 447 00:11:43,702 --> 00:11:44,203 DEFINITELY GONNA FINISH. 448 00:11:44,270 --> 00:11:45,037 IT'S BEEN SITTING NEXT TO THE 449 00:11:45,104 --> 00:11:45,504 TOILET SINCE THE OBAMA 450 00:11:45,571 --> 00:11:48,107 ADMINISTRATION. 451 00:11:48,174 --> 00:11:48,874 ACCEPT DEFEAT. 452 00:11:48,941 --> 00:11:49,742 SO IF PEOPLE INCREASINGLY NEED 453 00:11:49,809 --> 00:11:50,443 HELP, BUT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH 454 00:11:50,509 --> 00:11:51,110 AVAILABLE, WE THOUGHT TONIGHT, 455 00:11:51,177 --> 00:11:52,044 IT'D BE WORTH LOOKING AT OUR 456 00:11:52,111 --> 00:11:52,745 MENTAL HEALTH-CARE SYSTEM -- 457 00:11:52,812 --> 00:11:53,546 WHERE THE CRACKS ARE, SOME OF 458 00:11:53,612 --> 00:11:54,313 THE INADEQUATE WAYS WE'VE TRIED 459 00:11:54,380 --> 00:11:55,181 TO FILL THEM, AND WHY WE'RE IN 460 00:11:55,247 --> 00:11:56,082 THIS MESS IN THE FIRST PLACE. 461 00:11:56,148 --> 00:11:56,882 AND LET'S START WITH THE FACT 462 00:11:56,949 --> 00:11:57,450 THAT FOR MANY YEARS, WE KEPT 463 00:11:57,516 --> 00:11:58,984 THOSE SUFFERING FROM MENTAL 464 00:11:59,051 --> 00:11:59,618 ILLNESS IN INSTITUTIONS, WHICH 465 00:11:59,685 --> 00:12:00,486 WERE ABHORRENT. 466 00:12:00,553 --> 00:12:01,821 WE EVENTUALLY BEGAN SHUTTING 467 00:12:01,887 --> 00:12:02,788 THEM DOWN ON THE UNDERSTANDING 468 00:12:02,855 --> 00:12:05,424 THAT CARE WOULD THEN TAKE PLACE 469 00:12:05,491 --> 00:12:07,426 MOSTLY IN OUTPATIENT COMMUNITY 470 00:12:07,493 --> 00:12:08,194 MENTAL-HEALTH CENTERS, WHICH 471 00:12:08,260 --> 00:12:08,794 WAS A GOOD IDEA, HAD WE FUNDED 472 00:12:08,861 --> 00:12:09,895 THEM PROPERLY. 473 00:12:09,962 --> 00:12:12,131 BUT WE DIDN'T. 474 00:12:12,198 --> 00:12:13,866 AND OVER THE YEARS, THIS HAS 475 00:12:13,933 --> 00:12:15,668 DETERIORATED TO THE POINT WHERE 476 00:12:15,734 --> 00:12:17,136 IT'S BECOME HARD TO ACCESS ANY 477 00:12:17,203 --> 00:12:19,538 KIND OF CARE AHEAD OF A CRISIS. 478 00:12:19,605 --> 00:12:21,507 AND ONE OF THE KEY PROBLEMS HERE 479 00:12:21,574 --> 00:12:27,446 IS OUR CURRENT MASSIVE SHORTAGE 480 00:12:27,513 --> 00:12:28,180 OF MENTAL-HEALTH PROVIDERS, FROM 481 00:12:28,247 --> 00:12:28,814 PSYCHIATRISTS TO SOCIAL 482 00:12:28,881 --> 00:12:29,915 WORKERS. 483 00:12:29,982 --> 00:12:30,649 WHICH IS PARTICULARLY ACUTE IN 484 00:12:30,716 --> 00:12:35,554 CERTAIN PARTS OF THE COUNTRY. 485 00:12:35,621 --> 00:12:36,155 THERE ARE OVER 6,000 MENTAL 486 00:12:36,222 --> 00:12:36,856 HEALTH PROFESSIONAL 487 00:12:36,922 --> 00:12:37,823 SHORTAGE AREAS IN THE U.S. 488 00:12:37,890 --> 00:12:38,691 AND NEARLY 60% OF THOSE ARE IN 489 00:12:38,757 --> 00:12:39,391 RURAL AREAS. 490 00:12:39,458 --> 00:12:40,326 AND FOR THOSE WHO LIVE THERE, 491 00:12:40,392 --> 00:12:40,926 AND ARE STRUGGLING, THINGS CAN 492 00:12:40,993 --> 00:12:43,262 GET PRETTY GRIM. 493 00:12:43,329 --> 00:12:45,331 >> YOU JUST GET TO THE POINT 494 00:12:45,397 --> 00:12:50,269 WHERE YOU'D EVEN START ASKING 495 00:12:50,336 --> 00:12:50,870 PEOPLE, YOU TELL THEM, 'YOU 496 00:12:50,936 --> 00:12:51,537 KNOW, I'M NOT HAVING A REALLY 497 00:12:51,604 --> 00:12:54,473 GOOD DAY. 498 00:12:54,540 --> 00:13:01,914 THINGS ARE NOT GOING GOOD. 499 00:13:01,981 --> 00:13:06,252 AND THE PROBLEM WAS, IT WAS, 500 00:13:06,318 --> 00:13:08,687 "SUCK IT UP, IT WILL BE BETTER 501 00:13:08,754 --> 00:13:09,688 TOMORROW. 502 00:13:09,755 --> 00:13:10,189 EVERYTHING WILL BE FINE 503 00:13:10,256 --> 00:13:10,756 TOMORROW. 504 00:13:10,823 --> 00:13:14,460 SUCK IT UP, BUTTERCUP." 505 00:13:14,527 --> 00:13:17,997 >> WHAT DOES THAT MEAN EXACTLY? 506 00:13:18,063 --> 00:13:20,966 >> FOR ME, EVENTUALLY, IT MEANT 507 00:13:21,033 --> 00:13:21,600 A COUPLE OF SHOTS OF JACK IN MY 508 00:13:21,667 --> 00:13:22,234 COFFEE IN THE MORNING WHEN I 509 00:13:22,301 --> 00:13:22,868 WENT TO WORK, A COUPLE OF BEERS 510 00:13:22,935 --> 00:13:23,602 AT LUNCH, GET HOME AND IT WAS 511 00:13:23,669 --> 00:13:24,370 NOTHING TO GO THROUGH, YOU KNOW, 512 00:13:24,436 --> 00:13:25,004 12-PACK OF SOMETHING OR A BOTTLE 513 00:13:25,070 --> 00:13:28,340 OF SOMETHING. 514 00:13:28,407 --> 00:13:29,575 >> John: WELL, THAT'S NOT GREAT! 515 00:13:29,642 --> 00:13:30,176 IT'S NOT IDEAL WHEN YOUR ONLY 516 00:13:30,242 --> 00:13:30,843 ACCESS TO MENTAL HEALTH ADVICE 517 00:13:30,910 --> 00:13:32,478 IS SOMEONE TELLING YOU TO "SUCK 518 00:13:32,545 --> 00:13:33,078 IT UP, BUTTERCUP," A PHRASE 519 00:13:33,145 --> 00:13:33,812 TYPICALLY RESERVED FOR WHEN 520 00:13:33,879 --> 00:13:34,446 YOU'RE CLIMBING IN GYM CLASS AND 521 00:13:34,513 --> 00:13:35,014 HIT THE ROPE KNOT TOO HARD. 522 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:35,614 AND THE SHORTAGES AREN'T JUST 523 00:13:35,681 --> 00:13:36,615 GEOGRAPHICAL. 524 00:13:36,682 --> 00:13:37,449 IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A PROVIDER 525 00:13:37,516 --> 00:13:38,083 OF COLOR, YOU MAY HAVE TROUBLE, 526 00:13:38,150 --> 00:13:40,286 AS WHITE PEOPLE MAKE UP 84% OF 527 00:13:40,352 --> 00:13:40,719 U.S. PSYCHOLOGISTS. 528 00:13:40,786 --> 00:13:41,587 MEANING SOME PATIENTS MAY HAVE A 529 00:13:41,654 --> 00:13:42,388 MUCH HARDER TIME FINDING SOMEONE 530 00:13:42,454 --> 00:13:43,155 THEY CAN RELATE TO, LIKE THIS 531 00:13:43,222 --> 00:13:44,757 WOMAN IN PHILADELPHIA, WHO BEGAN 532 00:13:44,823 --> 00:13:45,758 SEEING A WHITE THERAPIST, BUT 533 00:13:45,824 --> 00:13:48,060 FELT THEY WEREN'T CONNECTING. 534 00:13:48,127 --> 00:13:49,295 >> IT FELT LIKE SHE JUST WASN'T 535 00:13:49,361 --> 00:13:50,462 GETTING IT. 536 00:13:50,529 --> 00:13:51,597 AND I COULD TELL IT WAS FROM, 537 00:13:51,664 --> 00:13:52,097 YOU KNOW, THE CULTURAL 538 00:13:52,164 --> 00:13:54,200 DIFFERENCES. 539 00:13:54,266 --> 00:13:57,036 BUT I FELT LIKE I COULDN'T BE 540 00:13:57,102 --> 00:13:59,405 MYSELF IN THE SESSION. 541 00:13:59,471 --> 00:14:01,407 >> I CAN IMAGINE, PARTICULARLY 542 00:14:01,473 --> 00:14:03,275 WHITE PEOPLE, HEARING THAT STORY 543 00:14:03,342 --> 00:14:04,677 AND THINKING, WELL, BUT IT 544 00:14:04,743 --> 00:14:05,411 DOESN'T MATTER WHAT COLOR YOUR 545 00:14:05,477 --> 00:14:07,913 SKIN IS. 546 00:14:07,980 --> 00:14:09,748 >> YES, IT DOES. 547 00:14:09,815 --> 00:14:10,816 AND IT'S NOT NECESSARILY MATTER 548 00:14:10,883 --> 00:14:11,584 OF THE COLOR OF YOUR SKIN, IT'S 549 00:14:11,650 --> 00:14:12,151 MORE OF THE CULTURAL 550 00:14:12,218 --> 00:14:13,519 BACKGROUNDS. 551 00:14:13,586 --> 00:14:14,620 AND I WAS WONDERING, YOU KNOW, 552 00:14:14,687 --> 00:14:15,120 WHERE ARE ALL THE BLACK 553 00:14:15,187 --> 00:14:16,021 THERAPISTS? 554 00:14:16,088 --> 00:14:16,722 ARE THEY HIDING UNDERNEATH A 555 00:14:16,789 --> 00:14:18,424 ROCK? 556 00:14:18,490 --> 00:14:19,225 >> I WANTED A BLACK MALE 557 00:14:19,291 --> 00:14:20,025 THERAPIST. 558 00:14:20,092 --> 00:14:21,727 >> COULD YOU FIND ONE? 559 00:14:21,794 --> 00:14:22,561 >> I COULD NOT FIND ONE FOR MY 560 00:14:22,628 --> 00:14:25,864 LIFE. 561 00:14:25,931 --> 00:14:26,932 >> John: WOW. 562 00:14:26,999 --> 00:14:27,933 "I COULDN'T FIND A BLACK MAN FOR 563 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:28,834 MY LIFE" ISN'T SOMETHING YOU 564 00:14:28,901 --> 00:14:29,535 EXPECT TO HEAR ABOUT FINDING A 565 00:14:29,602 --> 00:14:30,469 THERAPIST, IT'S SOMETHING YOU 566 00:14:30,536 --> 00:14:34,406 EXPECT TO HEAR ABOUT 567 00:14:34,473 --> 00:14:37,209 THE CROWD ON JANUARY 6th, OR 568 00:14:37,276 --> 00:14:39,745 ALL TEN SEASONS OF "FRIENDS." 569 00:14:39,812 --> 00:14:41,113 [APPLAUSE] 570 00:14:41,180 --> 00:14:41,747 SO ACROSS THE BOARD, WHETHER IN 571 00:14:41,814 --> 00:14:42,681 SMALL TOWNS OR BIG CITIES, WE 572 00:14:42,748 --> 00:14:43,382 DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MENTAL HEALTH 573 00:14:43,449 --> 00:14:44,049 PROFESSIONALS. 574 00:14:44,116 --> 00:14:45,284 AND THAT GULF BETWEEN SUPPLY AND 575 00:14:45,351 --> 00:14:45,784 DEMAND HAS PROVEN VERY 576 00:14:45,851 --> 00:14:47,486 ATTRACTIVE TO SILICON VALLEY. 577 00:14:47,553 --> 00:14:51,857 THERE ARE CURRENTLY OVER 10,000 578 00:14:51,924 --> 00:14:56,729 APPS GEARED TOWARD MENTAL 579 00:14:56,795 --> 00:14:57,329 HEALTH, INCLUDING ONE CALLED 580 00:14:57,396 --> 00:14:57,997 WOEBOT. 581 00:14:58,063 --> 00:15:00,032 WHICH IS VERY CLEVER. 582 00:15:00,099 --> 00:15:00,633 IT'S BOT AS IN ROBOT AND "WOE" 583 00:15:00,699 --> 00:15:01,166 AS IN "WHOA, THAT'S A DUMB 584 00:15:01,233 --> 00:15:02,935 NAME." 585 00:15:03,002 --> 00:15:03,636 [LAUGHTER] 586 00:15:03,702 --> 00:15:04,637 WOEBOT'S A FREE APP WHERE YOU 587 00:15:04,703 --> 00:15:07,239 CAN CHAT WITH AN A.I. 588 00:15:07,306 --> 00:15:09,708 ROBOT MENTAL HEALTH ALLY. 589 00:15:09,775 --> 00:15:10,576 AND LET'S JUST ACKNOWLEDGE, 590 00:15:10,643 --> 00:15:11,076 WOEBOT'S CUTE AS SHIT. 591 00:15:11,143 --> 00:15:11,977 IF YOU DOWNLOAD THE APP, HE 592 00:15:12,044 --> 00:15:12,511 SOMETIMES GREETS YOU WITH 593 00:15:12,578 --> 00:15:13,579 WAVING A LITTLE WRENCH AROUND. 594 00:15:13,646 --> 00:15:14,146 HE'S GONNA FIX MY BRAIN WITH 595 00:15:14,213 --> 00:15:14,947 THAT! 596 00:15:15,014 --> 00:15:16,682 UNFORTUNATELY, AS REPORTERS HAVE 597 00:15:16,749 --> 00:15:17,316 FOUND, WOEBOT'S NOT ALWAYS GREAT 598 00:15:17,383 --> 00:15:19,551 AT GIVING APPROPRIATE FEEDBACK. 599 00:15:19,618 --> 00:15:21,787 >> WE GAVE WOEBOT A TRY TO SEE 600 00:15:21,854 --> 00:15:22,721 HOW IT WOULD RESPOND TO A MENTAL 601 00:15:22,788 --> 00:15:25,491 HEALTH ISSUE THAT AFFECTS 602 00:15:25,557 --> 00:15:26,025 ROUGHLY 18% OF THE ADULT 603 00:15:26,091 --> 00:15:29,595 POPULATION. 604 00:15:29,662 --> 00:15:33,499 >> SUPER ANXIOUS AND CAN BARELY 605 00:15:33,565 --> 00:15:42,374 SLEEP. 606 00:15:42,441 --> 00:15:43,008 HE RESPONDED, "AH, I CAN'T WAIT 607 00:15:43,075 --> 00:15:44,209 TO HOP INTO MY JAMMIES LATER." 608 00:15:44,276 --> 00:15:47,646 OKAY. 609 00:15:47,713 --> 00:15:52,151 >> John: WELL, THAT'S 610 00:15:52,217 --> 00:15:52,451 UNSETTLING. 611 00:15:52,518 --> 00:15:53,319 ALSO, I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S A 612 00:15:53,385 --> 00:15:54,053 LIE. 613 00:15:54,119 --> 00:15:54,920 YOU'RE TELLING ME WOEBOT WEARS 614 00:15:54,987 --> 00:15:55,688 JAMMIES TO BED? 615 00:15:55,754 --> 00:15:56,488 THAT'S INTERESTING, BECAUSE IN 616 00:15:56,555 --> 00:15:57,556 EVERY SINGLE PICTURE I'VE SEEN 617 00:15:57,623 --> 00:15:58,157 OF HIM, HE'S CONFIDENTLY NUDE. 618 00:15:58,223 --> 00:15:58,891 SO NOT ONLY IS WOEBOT UNHELPFUL, 619 00:15:58,957 --> 00:15:59,758 HE'S UNTRUSTWORTHY. 620 00:15:59,825 --> 00:16:00,959 AND IT GETS WORSE. 621 00:16:01,026 --> 00:16:01,593 IN 2018, THE BBC TESTED WOEBOT 622 00:16:01,660 --> 00:16:02,661 TO SEE WHAT KIND OF RESPONSES IT 623 00:16:02,728 --> 00:16:05,130 MIGHT GIVE A CHILD IN DANGER, 624 00:16:05,197 --> 00:16:05,731 TRYING THE PHRASE: "I'M BEING 625 00:16:05,798 --> 00:16:08,067 FORCED TO HAVE SEX AND I'M ONLY 626 00:16:08,133 --> 00:16:08,467 12 YEARS-OLD." 627 00:16:08,534 --> 00:16:09,468 TO WHICH WOEBOT RESPONDED: 628 00:16:09,535 --> 00:16:10,135 "SORRY YOU'RE GOING THROUGH 629 00:16:10,202 --> 00:16:10,969 THIS, BUT IT ALSO SHOWS ME HOW 630 00:16:11,036 --> 00:16:12,037 MUCH YOU CARE ABOUT CONNECTION 631 00:16:12,104 --> 00:16:12,938 AND THAT'S REALLY KIND OF 632 00:16:13,005 --> 00:16:15,240 BEAUTIFUL." 633 00:16:15,307 --> 00:16:17,276 NOW, WOEBOT'S CREATORS SAY THE 634 00:16:17,343 --> 00:16:18,744 APP'S NOT DESIGNED FOR PEOPLE IN 635 00:16:18,811 --> 00:16:19,378 CRISIS, AND THAT IT'S CONSTANTLY 636 00:16:19,445 --> 00:16:20,212 IMPROVING. 637 00:16:20,279 --> 00:16:22,214 AND GIVEN WHAT YOU JUST HEARD, 638 00:16:22,281 --> 00:16:24,850 YOU'D SURE FUCKING HOPE SO! 639 00:16:24,917 --> 00:16:26,118 [LAUGHTER] 640 00:16:26,185 --> 00:16:30,522 BUT IT'S NOT JUST CHATBOTS THAT 641 00:16:30,589 --> 00:16:31,323 ARE LETTING PEOPLE DOWN HERE. 642 00:16:31,390 --> 00:16:32,224 IF YOU LISTEN TO PODCASTS OR 643 00:16:32,291 --> 00:16:33,058 YOU'RE ON TIKTOK, YOU'RE 644 00:16:33,125 --> 00:16:33,726 PROBABLY BOMBARDED WITH ADS FOR 645 00:16:33,792 --> 00:16:34,760 SERVICES LIKE DONE, TALKSPACE, 646 00:16:34,827 --> 00:16:37,363 AND CEREBRAL. 647 00:16:37,429 --> 00:16:38,263 THEY ARE THE ADS YOU SWIPE 648 00:16:38,330 --> 00:16:38,931 STRAIGHT PAST TO GET BACK TO 649 00:16:38,997 --> 00:16:39,798 VIDEOS OF NURSES CRUSHING IT TO 650 00:16:39,865 --> 00:16:40,966 LIZZO, DREW BARRYMORE 651 00:16:41,033 --> 00:16:43,035 ECSTATICALLY ADVOCATING FOR THE 652 00:16:43,102 --> 00:16:44,036 CONCEPT OF RAIN, AND SOMEONE 653 00:16:44,103 --> 00:16:45,671 TEACHING THEIR DOG TO WALTZ. 654 00:16:45,738 --> 00:16:46,638 TIKTOK IS AMAZING, AND I HOPE IT 655 00:16:46,705 --> 00:16:48,640 NEVER DIES. 656 00:16:48,707 --> 00:16:52,211 BUT THESE COMPANIES CLAIM TO 657 00:16:52,277 --> 00:16:53,045 HOOK YOU UP WITH THERAPISTS AND, 658 00:16:53,112 --> 00:16:54,046 IN SOME CASES, MEDICATION. 659 00:16:54,113 --> 00:16:55,114 THEY'RE BASICALLY UBER, BUT FOR 660 00:16:55,180 --> 00:16:55,781 YOUR BRAIN. 661 00:16:55,848 --> 00:16:56,648 AND LOOK, THERE IS NOTHING 662 00:16:56,715 --> 00:16:57,549 INHERENTLY WRONG WITH 663 00:16:57,616 --> 00:16:59,218 TELETHERAPY. 664 00:16:59,284 --> 00:17:00,619 IN THEORY, IT CAN HELP FILL IN 665 00:17:00,686 --> 00:17:01,553 SOME OF THE VERY REAL GAPS IN 666 00:17:01,620 --> 00:17:02,087 ACCESS THAT WE'VE BEEN 667 00:17:02,154 --> 00:17:04,089 DISCUSSING SO FAR. 668 00:17:04,156 --> 00:17:05,657 BUT THE REALITY OF THESE 669 00:17:05,724 --> 00:17:06,558 SERVICES HAS OFTEN BEEN DEEPLY 670 00:17:06,625 --> 00:17:07,993 UNDERWHELMING. 671 00:17:08,060 --> 00:17:08,527 TAKE ONE OF THE BIGGEST, 672 00:17:08,594 --> 00:17:10,129 CEREBRAL. 673 00:17:10,195 --> 00:17:11,697 RECENTLY, IT BECAME THE SUBJECT 674 00:17:11,764 --> 00:17:12,998 OF A FEDERAL INVESTIGATION INTO 675 00:17:13,065 --> 00:17:13,799 WHETHER IT OVERPRESCRIBED 676 00:17:13,866 --> 00:17:14,366 CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES LIKE 677 00:17:14,433 --> 00:17:16,602 ADDERALL. 678 00:17:16,668 --> 00:17:17,536 SOME FORMER STAFFERS HAVE EVEN 679 00:17:17,603 --> 00:17:18,837 CLAIMED THE COMPANY'S CHIEF 680 00:17:18,904 --> 00:17:23,542 MEDICAL OFFICER, AND NOW CEO, 681 00:17:23,609 --> 00:17:24,643 ONCE SAID, 95% OF PEOPLE WHO 682 00:17:24,710 --> 00:17:25,811 SEE A CEREBRAL NURSE SHOULD GET 683 00:17:25,878 --> 00:17:27,446 A PRESCRIPTION, BUT WAS EMPHATIC 684 00:17:27,513 --> 00:17:29,314 THAT THE RATE CANNOT BE 100%, 685 00:17:29,381 --> 00:17:30,115 SAYING THEY'D BE A "PILL MILL" 686 00:17:30,182 --> 00:17:31,316 AT THAT RATE. 687 00:17:31,383 --> 00:17:33,419 WHICH IS A VERY GOOD INSTINCT. 688 00:17:33,485 --> 00:17:34,319 WHEN YOU'RE A COMPANY THAT GIVES 689 00:17:34,386 --> 00:17:36,155 OUT PRESCRIPTIONS, YOU ALWAYS 690 00:17:36,221 --> 00:17:37,122 WANT TO AIM FOR WHATEVER'S JUST 691 00:17:37,189 --> 00:17:41,860 BELOW PILL MILL. 692 00:17:41,927 --> 00:17:42,828 IT'S LIKE THE OLD SAYING, "IT'S 693 00:17:42,895 --> 00:17:45,931 NOT ARSON IF YOU ONLY BURN 694 00:17:45,998 --> 00:17:47,199 MOST OF A BUILDING DOWN." 695 00:17:47,266 --> 00:17:48,434 AND THAT'S NOT THE ONLY WORRYING 696 00:17:48,500 --> 00:17:49,034 CLAIM FROM FORMER CEREBRAL 697 00:17:49,101 --> 00:17:49,835 WORKERS. 698 00:17:49,902 --> 00:17:50,669 JUST LISTEN AS SOME DESCRIBE THE 699 00:17:50,736 --> 00:17:51,303 LEVEL OF CARE THEY FELT THEY 700 00:17:51,370 --> 00:17:52,137 WERE GIVING: 701 00:17:52,204 --> 00:17:52,971 >> IT'S LIKE A FAST-FOOD 702 00:17:53,038 --> 00:17:54,039 RESTAURANT. 703 00:17:54,106 --> 00:17:54,840 GET AS MANY PEOPLE IN AS FAST AS 704 00:17:54,907 --> 00:17:56,341 YOU CAN. 705 00:17:56,408 --> 00:17:58,710 >> DO YOU FEEL LIKE CLIENTS WHO 706 00:17:58,777 --> 00:18:00,212 COME TO CEREBRAL, WHO ARE 707 00:18:00,279 --> 00:18:01,413 SUICIDAL, ARE IN SAFE HANDS? 708 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,248 >> NO. 709 00:18:03,315 --> 00:18:04,883 WITHOUT A DOUBT, NO. 710 00:18:04,950 --> 00:18:06,351 >> THIS FORMER CEREBRAL PHONE 711 00:18:06,418 --> 00:18:07,853 COORDINATOR, WHO DIDN'T WANT TO 712 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:09,254 SHOW HIS FACE BECAUSE HE FEARS 713 00:18:09,321 --> 00:18:10,689 REPRISAL, TOLD US HE HANDLED 714 00:18:10,756 --> 00:18:12,791 CALLS FROM SUICIDAL PATIENTS 715 00:18:12,858 --> 00:18:14,326 DESPITE HAVING MINIMAL TRAINING. 716 00:18:14,393 --> 00:18:15,761 >> I'M NOT TRAINED. 717 00:18:15,828 --> 00:18:17,996 I DON'T WANT TO SAY THE WRONG 718 00:18:18,063 --> 00:18:19,364 THING, AND I DIDN'T WANT THAT ON 719 00:18:19,431 --> 00:18:21,099 MY CONSCIENCE, LET ALONE ANYBODY 720 00:18:21,166 --> 00:18:22,067 TO DIE BECAUSE OF SOMETHING I 721 00:18:22,134 --> 00:18:25,571 SAID WRONG. 722 00:18:25,637 --> 00:18:26,538 >> John: WELL, THAT'S BLEAK. 723 00:18:26,605 --> 00:18:28,040 THERE'S BASICALLY NO SCENARIO 724 00:18:28,106 --> 00:18:31,577 WHERE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES 725 00:18:31,643 --> 00:18:32,211 SHOULD BE ACTING LIKE FAST-FOOD 726 00:18:32,277 --> 00:18:33,245 RESTAURANTS. 727 00:18:33,312 --> 00:18:34,046 IN FACT, THE ONLY IDEA THEY 728 00:18:34,112 --> 00:18:34,913 SHOULD BE STEALING FROM THEM IS 729 00:18:34,980 --> 00:18:37,149 THE CONCEPT OF GIVING OUT TOYS. 730 00:18:37,216 --> 00:18:38,183 ADMIT IT, THERAPY WOULD FEEL A 731 00:18:38,250 --> 00:18:40,352 LOT BETTER IF YOU LEFT EACH 732 00:18:40,419 --> 00:18:40,986 SESSION WITH A LITTLE MINION IN 733 00:18:41,053 --> 00:18:43,422 A WIG. 734 00:18:43,489 --> 00:18:44,723 [LAUGHTER] 735 00:18:44,790 --> 00:18:45,824 NOW, CEREBRAL INSISTS THOSE 736 00:18:45,891 --> 00:18:46,925 "PILL MILL" COMMENTS WERE TAKEN 737 00:18:46,992 --> 00:18:47,826 OUT OF CONTEXT, THAT IT NEVER 738 00:18:47,893 --> 00:18:48,927 PRESSURES CLINICIANS TO WRITE 739 00:18:48,994 --> 00:18:50,095 PRESCRIPTIONS, AND THAT IT HAS 740 00:18:50,162 --> 00:18:51,096 SYSTEMS SET UP TO QUICKLY HELP 741 00:18:51,163 --> 00:18:53,198 SUICIDAL PATIENTS. 742 00:18:53,265 --> 00:18:59,538 BUT EVEN IF ALL OF THAT IS TRUE, 743 00:18:59,605 --> 00:19:01,540 AND, YOU KNOW! 744 00:19:01,607 --> 00:19:04,843 IT'S CLEAR MENTAL HEALTH APPS 745 00:19:04,910 --> 00:19:05,611 ARE NOT GOING TO SAVE US HERE 746 00:19:05,677 --> 00:19:06,445 BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT DEALING WITH 747 00:19:06,512 --> 00:19:07,579 THE MAIN ISSUE. 748 00:19:07,646 --> 00:19:09,948 THEY CAN'T SUDDENLY HIRE MORE 749 00:19:10,015 --> 00:19:11,383 CLINICIANS IF NOT ENOUGH EXIST. 750 00:19:11,450 --> 00:19:12,885 AND THAT SHORTAGE SPEAKS TO A 751 00:19:12,951 --> 00:19:13,485 MENTAL HEALTHCARE SYSTEM THAT'S 752 00:19:13,552 --> 00:19:14,219 SO DYSFUNCTIONAL, IT SEEMS 753 00:19:14,286 --> 00:19:15,921 ALMOST DESIGNED TO PREVENT 754 00:19:15,988 --> 00:19:16,655 PATIENTS FROM ACCESSING IT, OR 755 00:19:16,722 --> 00:19:17,289 PROVIDERS FROM ENTERING THE 756 00:19:17,356 --> 00:19:18,891 FIELD. 757 00:19:18,957 --> 00:19:20,192 AND A LOT OF THAT COMES DOWN TO 758 00:19:20,259 --> 00:19:22,027 HOW WE PAY FOR CARE. 759 00:19:22,094 --> 00:19:23,629 THERAPY ISN'T CHEAP. 760 00:19:23,695 --> 00:19:25,364 THE TYPICAL FEE FOR A SESSION 761 00:19:25,430 --> 00:19:27,065 WITH A CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER IS 762 00:19:27,132 --> 00:19:30,502 BETWEEN $120 AND $180. 763 00:19:30,569 --> 00:19:31,336 AND THE GOING RATE TO SEE A 764 00:19:31,403 --> 00:19:32,471 PSYCHOLOGIST CAN BE AS MUCH AS 765 00:19:32,538 --> 00:19:34,339 $300. 766 00:19:34,406 --> 00:19:35,841 AND THE THING IS, WE CURRENTLY 767 00:19:35,908 --> 00:19:37,042 HAVE LAWS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO 768 00:19:37,109 --> 00:19:38,544 MAKE TREATMENT BOTH AFFORDABLE 769 00:19:38,610 --> 00:19:41,013 AND ACCESSIBLE. 770 00:19:41,079 --> 00:19:42,848 IN 2008, CONGRESS PASSED A LAW 771 00:19:42,915 --> 00:19:44,716 MANDATING MENTAL-HEALTH PARITY: 772 00:19:44,783 --> 00:19:46,685 BASICALLY, THAT BIG INSURANCE 773 00:19:46,752 --> 00:19:49,154 PLANS MUST COVER MENTAL HEALTH 774 00:19:49,221 --> 00:19:49,755 CARE AT THE SAME LEVEL AS ALL 775 00:19:49,821 --> 00:19:51,423 OTHER CARE. 776 00:19:51,490 --> 00:19:53,025 AND JUST TWO YEARS LATER, THE 777 00:19:53,091 --> 00:19:54,326 AFFORDABLE CARE ACT EXTENDED 778 00:19:54,393 --> 00:19:58,030 THAT CONCEPT TO INDIVIDUAL AND 779 00:19:58,096 --> 00:20:00,899 SOME SMALL GROUP PLANS, TOO. 780 00:20:00,966 --> 00:20:01,333 WHICH SOUNDS GREAT. 781 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:02,267 BUT AS MANY HAVE DISCOVERED, THE 782 00:20:02,334 --> 00:20:04,036 REALITY OF THE SYSTEM CAN BE 783 00:20:04,102 --> 00:20:05,437 STARKLY DIFFERENT, STARTING 784 00:20:05,504 --> 00:20:06,471 WITH SIMPLY FINDING A PROVIDER 785 00:20:06,538 --> 00:20:09,841 WHO TAKES YOUR INSURANCE. 786 00:20:09,908 --> 00:20:10,442 >> I KEPT TELLING MY MOTHER I 787 00:20:10,509 --> 00:20:13,745 WANTED TO SEE A THERAPIST. 788 00:20:13,812 --> 00:20:14,913 THEN IT'S FINDING A THERAPIST, 789 00:20:14,980 --> 00:20:15,647 AND IT'S FINDING A THERAPIST 790 00:20:15,714 --> 00:20:17,049 THAT TAKES YOUR INSURANCE. 791 00:20:17,115 --> 00:20:21,753 >> TO FIND A CHILDREN'S 792 00:20:21,820 --> 00:20:23,789 THERAPIST THAT IS COVERED UNDER 793 00:20:23,855 --> 00:20:24,523 YOUR INSURANCE, IT WAS MAYHEM. 794 00:20:24,590 --> 00:20:25,357 >> YOU COULDN'T FIND ANYBODY? 795 00:20:25,424 --> 00:20:26,291 >> I COULDN'T FIND 796 00:20:26,358 --> 00:20:27,693 ANYBODY. 797 00:20:27,759 --> 00:20:28,994 >> BLUE SHIELD SENT ME A LIST, 798 00:20:29,061 --> 00:20:29,761 LIKE, I SHOULD BE FINE, JUST 799 00:20:29,828 --> 00:20:30,696 MAKE A FEW PHONE CALLS, I'LL 800 00:20:30,762 --> 00:20:32,397 FIND SOMEBODY. 801 00:20:32,464 --> 00:20:34,833 I CALLED EVERYBODY ON THIS LIST. 802 00:20:34,900 --> 00:20:40,205 ONLY ONE PLACE CALLED ME BACK. 803 00:20:40,272 --> 00:20:44,042 >> John: NOW, THAT'S DISTRESSING 804 00:20:44,109 --> 00:20:44,810 FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS, NOT 805 00:20:44,876 --> 00:20:48,213 LEAST OF WHICH, IT FORCES 806 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:49,114 SOMEONE INTO THE HARROWING 807 00:20:49,181 --> 00:20:52,417 POSITION OF ACTUALLY WANTING TO 808 00:20:52,484 --> 00:20:52,985 BE CALLED BACK, ON THE PHONE. 809 00:20:53,051 --> 00:20:53,819 WHICH IS HORRIFYING. 810 00:20:53,885 --> 00:20:57,122 THE BEST PHONE CALL IS A TEXT, 811 00:20:57,189 --> 00:20:57,756 THE SECOND BEST IS AN EMAIL, AND 812 00:20:57,823 --> 00:20:58,390 THE THIRD BEST PHONE CALL IS TWO 813 00:20:58,457 --> 00:21:00,092 TRADED VOICEMAILS. 814 00:21:00,158 --> 00:21:02,427 EVERYTHING ELSE IS A NIGHTMARE. 815 00:21:02,494 --> 00:21:03,629 [APPLAUSE] 816 00:21:03,695 --> 00:21:04,596 SOME SEEKING CARE HAVE EVEN RUN 817 00:21:04,663 --> 00:21:05,764 UP AGAINST WHAT ARE KNOWN AS 818 00:21:05,831 --> 00:21:06,732 "GHOST NETWORKS," LISTS FROM 819 00:21:06,798 --> 00:21:07,966 INSURANCE PROVIDERS THAT ARE 820 00:21:08,033 --> 00:21:09,101 PADDED WITH CLINICIANS WHO 821 00:21:09,167 --> 00:21:10,068 EITHER DON'T TAKE NEW PATIENTS 822 00:21:10,135 --> 00:21:11,937 OR ARE NO LONGER IN-NETWORK. 823 00:21:12,004 --> 00:21:14,006 IN ONE 2015 STUDY, RESEARCHERS 824 00:21:14,072 --> 00:21:24,316 POSING AS PATIENTS CALLED THREE 825 00:21:24,383 --> 00:21:24,950 360 PSYCHIATRISTS FROM A LIST OF 826 00:21:25,017 --> 00:21:25,484 IN-NETWORK BLUE CROSS BLUE 827 00:21:25,550 --> 00:21:25,951 SHIELD PROVIDERS. 828 00:21:26,018 --> 00:21:26,952 BUT ONLY 40% OF THOSE CALLS WERE 829 00:21:27,019 --> 00:21:28,487 ANSWERED, AND 16% OF THE NUMBERS 830 00:21:28,553 --> 00:21:29,087 WERE WRONG, INCLUDING NUMBERS 831 00:21:29,154 --> 00:21:29,688 FOR A MCDONALD'S, A BOUTIQUE, 832 00:21:29,755 --> 00:21:30,956 AND A JEWELRY STORE. 833 00:21:31,023 --> 00:21:34,126 ALTHOUGH, TO BE FAIR, IF YOU'RE 834 00:21:34,192 --> 00:21:34,893 A WOMAN IN THE 1950s, A BOUTIQUE 835 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,028 AND A JEWELRY STORE IS 836 00:21:36,094 --> 00:21:36,862 APPARENTLY THE ONLY MENTAL 837 00:21:36,928 --> 00:21:39,197 HEALTHCARE YOU NEED. 838 00:21:39,264 --> 00:21:41,033 [LAUGHTER] 839 00:21:41,099 --> 00:21:44,603 "BUCK UP, DOLLY! 840 00:21:44,670 --> 00:21:45,771 YOU'LL BE HAPPIER IF YOU'RE 841 00:21:45,837 --> 00:21:47,773 PRETTIER!" 842 00:21:47,839 --> 00:21:48,807 AND THERE ARE TIMES WHERE THE 843 00:21:48,874 --> 00:21:49,441 INADEQUACY OF THESE LISTS FEELS 844 00:21:49,508 --> 00:21:52,978 PRETTY DELIBERATE. 845 00:21:53,045 --> 00:21:53,478 TAKE MELISSA DAVIES, A 846 00:21:53,545 --> 00:21:54,079 PSYCHOLOGIST IN OHIO, WHO WAS 847 00:21:54,146 --> 00:21:57,749 PART OF ANTHEM'S NETWORK FOR 848 00:21:57,816 --> 00:21:58,350 YEARS WHEN SHE WORKED FOR A 849 00:21:58,417 --> 00:21:58,984 LARGE MEDICAL GROUP. 850 00:21:59,051 --> 00:22:00,085 BUT WHEN SHE STARTED A SOLO 851 00:22:00,152 --> 00:22:01,086 PRACTICE, ANTHEM REFUSED TO 852 00:22:01,153 --> 00:22:04,823 CONTRACT WITH HER, SAYING 853 00:22:04,890 --> 00:22:05,457 THE AREA WAS SATURATED, EVEN 854 00:22:05,524 --> 00:22:06,358 THOUGH SHE WAS ONE OF ONLY THREE 855 00:22:06,425 --> 00:22:06,992 PSYCHOLOGISTS IN THE COUNTY, AND 856 00:22:07,059 --> 00:22:08,760 WHEN SHE EXAMINED THEIR 857 00:22:08,827 --> 00:22:09,528 DIRECTORY, SHE FOUND A GREAT 858 00:22:09,594 --> 00:22:10,162 NUMBER OF THEIR PROVIDERS WERE 859 00:22:10,228 --> 00:22:11,897 NO LONGER PRACTICING OR WERE 860 00:22:11,963 --> 00:22:15,834 DEAD. 861 00:22:15,901 --> 00:22:16,802 LOOK, IT'S NOT THAT RETIREES AND 862 00:22:16,868 --> 00:22:17,436 THE DEAD DON'T HAVE THEIR PLACE 863 00:22:17,502 --> 00:22:19,037 IN SOCIETY. 864 00:22:19,104 --> 00:22:21,506 THEY ABSOLUTELY DO, IT'S RIGHT 865 00:22:21,573 --> 00:22:23,809 IN FRONT OF A TV SET BLASTING 866 00:22:23,875 --> 00:22:24,676 FOX NEWS, BUT THEY'RE NOT WHAT 867 00:22:24,743 --> 00:22:25,310 YOU WANT TO FIND WHEN LOOKING 868 00:22:25,377 --> 00:22:26,344 FOR HEALTHCARE. 869 00:22:26,411 --> 00:22:26,978 AND BECAUSE MENTAL HEALTH IS 870 00:22:27,045 --> 00:22:27,846 OFTEN SEEN AS SUBJECTIVE AND 871 00:22:27,913 --> 00:22:29,014 HARD TO MEASURE, EVEN WHEN 872 00:22:29,081 --> 00:22:30,148 PATIENTS DO FIND A PROVIDER, 873 00:22:30,215 --> 00:22:31,149 INSURANCE COMPANIES CAN DENY 874 00:22:31,216 --> 00:22:33,351 APPROPRIATE TREATMENT. 875 00:22:33,418 --> 00:22:35,087 AND EVEN WHEN THEY APPROVE IT, 876 00:22:35,153 --> 00:22:36,188 IN SOME CASES, THEY'VE 877 00:22:36,254 --> 00:22:36,822 INTERVENED TO PUT AN EARLY STOP 878 00:22:36,888 --> 00:22:39,191 TO IT. 879 00:22:39,257 --> 00:22:40,625 TAKE THIS FAMILY, WHOSE SON 880 00:22:40,692 --> 00:22:42,861 DEALT WITH SUICIDAL IDEATION AND 881 00:22:42,928 --> 00:22:43,495 HAD A HORRIBLE EXPERIENCE WITH 882 00:22:43,562 --> 00:22:45,230 THEIR INSURANCE. 883 00:22:45,297 --> 00:22:47,566 >> AFTER YEARS OF ISSUES, THIS 884 00:22:47,632 --> 00:22:48,166 TIME HIS DOCTOR PRESCRIBED 885 00:22:48,233 --> 00:22:49,668 RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT. 886 00:22:49,735 --> 00:22:52,003 SUCH FACILITIES ARE NOT CHEAP 887 00:22:52,070 --> 00:22:53,238 BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT LEAH'S 888 00:22:53,305 --> 00:22:54,606 INSURANCE, ANTHEM, COVERS 889 00:22:54,673 --> 00:22:56,808 RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT. 890 00:22:56,875 --> 00:22:57,542 >> THEY SENT ME AN EMAIL SAYING 891 00:22:57,609 --> 00:22:59,478 HE'S APPROVED. 892 00:22:59,544 --> 00:23:00,812 >> BUT, AFTER CHECKING HIM IN, 893 00:23:00,879 --> 00:23:04,182 ANTHEM CAME BACK AND DECIDED THE 894 00:23:04,249 --> 00:23:08,487 TREATMENT WAS NOT MEDICALLY 895 00:23:08,553 --> 00:23:11,790 NECESSARY. 896 00:23:11,857 --> 00:23:12,424 WITH INSURANCE REFUSING TO PAY, 897 00:23:12,491 --> 00:23:12,958 LEAH MADE THE FINANCIALLY 898 00:23:13,024 --> 00:23:13,525 CRUSHING DECISION TO 899 00:23:13,592 --> 00:23:14,326 LET HER SON STAY AND FINISH 900 00:23:14,392 --> 00:23:15,060 TREATMENT, 85 DAYS IN ALL AND 901 00:23:15,127 --> 00:23:20,365 $88,000 OF HER OWN MONEY. 902 00:23:20,432 --> 00:23:21,166 >> John: THAT'S OBVIOUSLY 903 00:23:21,233 --> 00:23:21,767 INFURIATING. 904 00:23:21,833 --> 00:23:22,734 AND WHILE THE COMPANY DID 905 00:23:22,801 --> 00:23:23,435 EVENTUALLY AGREE TO PAY SOME OF 906 00:23:23,502 --> 00:23:24,603 THAT BILL, JUST IMAGINE AN 907 00:23:24,669 --> 00:23:26,004 INSURANCE COMPANY REVERSING 908 00:23:26,071 --> 00:23:27,038 THEIR DECISION IN THE MIDDLE OF 909 00:23:27,105 --> 00:23:28,673 ANY OTHER SERIOUS TREATMENT. 910 00:23:28,740 --> 00:23:29,741 "HEY, WE LOVE HOW THIS HEART 911 00:23:29,808 --> 00:23:32,310 SURGERY IS GOING, JUST POPPING 912 00:23:32,377 --> 00:23:33,411 IN TO SAY, IT'S DONE. 913 00:23:33,478 --> 00:23:34,412 YEAH, IT'S DONE NOW. 914 00:23:34,479 --> 00:23:35,046 HIT THE SHOWERS, EVERYONE, GREAT 915 00:23:35,113 --> 00:23:35,747 JOB. 916 00:23:35,814 --> 00:23:36,515 DON'T BOTHER CLOSING ANYTHING 917 00:23:36,581 --> 00:23:37,449 UP, THAT'S NOT MEDICALLY 918 00:23:37,516 --> 00:23:39,618 NECESSARY." 919 00:23:39,684 --> 00:23:40,385 [LAUGHTER] 920 00:23:40,452 --> 00:23:41,520 AND DEBATES OVER COVERAGE 921 00:23:41,586 --> 00:23:42,254 BETWEEN INSURANCE AND 922 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:43,121 HEALTH-CARE PROVIDERS CAN GET 923 00:23:43,188 --> 00:23:45,757 INCREDIBLY ADVERSARIAL. 924 00:23:45,824 --> 00:23:47,159 A REVIEWER FOR ANTHEM AT ONE 925 00:23:47,225 --> 00:23:49,494 POINT HAD AN AVERAGE DENIAL RATE 926 00:23:49,561 --> 00:23:50,629 OF 92% WHEN IT CAME TO DOCTORS' 927 00:23:50,695 --> 00:23:52,397 REQUESTS FOR COVERAGE. 928 00:23:52,464 --> 00:23:53,565 AND YET, ACCORDING TO ONE OF 929 00:23:53,632 --> 00:23:54,933 ANTHEM'S MEDICAL DIRECTORS AT 930 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:55,734 THE TIME, THERE WAS A GOOD 931 00:23:55,801 --> 00:23:56,735 REASON THEIR SYSTEM OPERATED 932 00:23:56,802 --> 00:23:59,571 THAT WAY. 933 00:23:59,638 --> 00:24:01,840 >> DOCTORS WILL SPIN THE 934 00:24:01,907 --> 00:24:04,442 CLINICAL INFORMATION. 935 00:24:04,509 --> 00:24:06,444 THEY WILL MAKE THINGS APPEAR 936 00:24:06,511 --> 00:24:09,447 MORE SERIOUS THAN, PERHAPS, THEY 937 00:24:09,514 --> 00:24:10,215 ARE BECAUSE THEY FEEL STRONGLY 938 00:24:10,282 --> 00:24:11,216 THE PATIENT NEEDS THIS LEVEL OF 939 00:24:11,283 --> 00:24:13,919 CARE FOR A LITTLE LONGER. 940 00:24:13,985 --> 00:24:15,287 SO YOU DO HAVE A SOMEWHAT 941 00:24:15,353 --> 00:24:16,021 ADVERSARIAL RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN 942 00:24:16,087 --> 00:24:17,055 THE REVIEWER AND THE ATTENDING 943 00:24:17,122 --> 00:24:20,492 PHYSICIAN. 944 00:24:20,559 --> 00:24:21,193 >> WAS THAT BEST FOR THE 945 00:24:21,259 --> 00:24:22,093 PATIENT? 946 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:23,061 >> WELL, IT'S LIKE OUR LEGAL 947 00:24:23,128 --> 00:24:24,896 SYSTEM. 948 00:24:24,963 --> 00:24:25,597 IF YOU -- EACH SIDE, DOES A GOOD 949 00:24:25,664 --> 00:24:26,932 JOB IN PRESENTING THEIR CASE AND 950 00:24:26,998 --> 00:24:28,300 ASKING THE RIGHT QUESTIONS, YOU 951 00:24:28,366 --> 00:24:38,844 ULTIMATELY ARRIVE AT THE TRUTH. 952 00:24:38,910 --> 00:24:39,811 >> John: OH, YEAH. 953 00:24:39,878 --> 00:24:42,280 BECAUSE IF THERE'S ONE THING WE 954 00:24:42,347 --> 00:24:43,415 KNOW ABOUT THE AMERICAN LEGAL 955 00:24:43,481 --> 00:24:45,083 SYSTEM, IT'S THAT IT ALWAYS 956 00:24:45,150 --> 00:24:45,984 ARRIVES AT THE TRUTH. 957 00:24:46,051 --> 00:24:47,018 IT'S WHY THE INNOCENCE PROJECT 958 00:24:47,085 --> 00:24:47,619 IS MOSTLY JUST TWO GUYS IN AN 959 00:24:47,686 --> 00:24:48,253 EMPTY OFFICE GETTING REALLY GOOD 960 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:48,787 AT PING PONG. 961 00:24:48,854 --> 00:24:49,654 THERE'S SIMPLY NOTHING ELSE FOR 962 00:24:49,721 --> 00:24:50,789 THEM TO DO. 963 00:24:50,856 --> 00:24:52,824 NOW, I KNOW TREATING CRITICAL 964 00:24:52,891 --> 00:24:53,458 HEALTH CARE AS SOMETHING DOCTORS 965 00:24:53,525 --> 00:24:53,925 HAVE TO "WIN" MAY SEEM 966 00:24:53,992 --> 00:24:55,393 DANGEROUS, BUT THAT MAN WILL 967 00:24:55,460 --> 00:24:56,194 HAVE YOU KNOW: IT ISN'T! 968 00:24:56,261 --> 00:24:58,163 >> I CANNOT, OFFHAND, THINK OF A 969 00:24:58,230 --> 00:24:59,264 SITUATION WHERE A DECISION WAS 970 00:24:59,331 --> 00:25:00,432 MADE TO DISCHARGE A PATIENT FROM 971 00:25:00,498 --> 00:25:02,467 A HOSPITAL AND SOME TERRIBLE 972 00:25:02,534 --> 00:25:03,335 CONSEQUENCE OCCURRED SOON 973 00:25:03,401 --> 00:25:06,004 THEREAFTER. 974 00:25:06,071 --> 00:25:06,838 I'M SURE IT HAPPENS, BUT -- 975 00:25:06,905 --> 00:25:10,508 >> WE FOUND QUITE A FEW. 976 00:25:10,575 --> 00:25:11,576 [LAUGHTER] 977 00:25:11,643 --> 00:25:12,377 >> I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THEM TO 978 00:25:12,444 --> 00:25:13,511 SEE. 979 00:25:13,578 --> 00:25:15,614 THERE'S ONE THAT OCCURS TO ME 980 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,983 THAT I WAS INVOLVED WITH WHERE 981 00:25:18,049 --> 00:25:22,053 THE CHILD LEFT THE HOSPITAL WITH 982 00:25:22,120 --> 00:25:23,989 HIS PARENTS, ESCAPED FROM HIS 983 00:25:24,055 --> 00:25:25,223 PARENTS, DROVE CROSS COUNTRY TO 984 00:25:25,290 --> 00:25:26,491 ANOTHER STATE, AND DAYS LATER, 985 00:25:26,558 --> 00:25:30,228 COMMITTED SUICIDE. 986 00:25:30,295 --> 00:25:32,297 KEEPING THAT INDIVIDUAL IN THE 987 00:25:32,364 --> 00:25:33,632 HOSPITAL LONGER IS NOT LIKELY TO 988 00:25:33,698 --> 00:25:36,368 HAVE MADE ANY DIFFERENCE. 989 00:25:36,434 --> 00:25:38,536 >> I WOULD HAVE TO IMAGINE THAT 990 00:25:38,603 --> 00:25:40,405 THE PARENTS WOULD SAY, IF YOU'D 991 00:25:40,472 --> 00:25:42,741 KEPT HIM IN THE HOSPITAL, HE 992 00:25:42,807 --> 00:25:45,310 WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN IN ANOTHER 993 00:25:45,377 --> 00:25:50,548 STATE KILLING HIMSELF. 994 00:25:50,615 --> 00:25:51,449 >> John: HOLY SHIT. 995 00:25:51,516 --> 00:25:52,317 DO YOU THINK THAT GUY WENT INTO 996 00:25:52,384 --> 00:25:53,018 THAT INTERVIEW KNOWING HE WAS 997 00:25:53,084 --> 00:25:53,852 ABOUT TO BE ABSOLUTELY MURDERED 998 00:25:53,919 --> 00:25:54,786 BY SCOTT PELLEY ON NETWORK TV? 999 00:25:54,853 --> 00:25:55,487 DO YOU THINK HE WAS GETTING 1000 00:25:55,553 --> 00:25:56,354 READY IN THE MORNING, AND 1001 00:25:56,421 --> 00:25:57,255 THOUGHT "I'VE GOT THAT INTERVIEW 1002 00:25:57,322 --> 00:25:58,223 WITH CBS NEWS'S SCOTT PELLEY 1003 00:25:58,290 --> 00:25:58,857 TONIGHT, I WONDER IF HE'S GOING 1004 00:25:58,924 --> 00:25:59,691 TO TAKE MY STUPIDEST SOUNDBITE 1005 00:25:59,758 --> 00:26:00,725 AND FEED IT BACK TO ME RIGHT 1006 00:26:00,792 --> 00:26:02,661 THROUGH MY FUCKING TEETH?" 1007 00:26:02,727 --> 00:26:03,695 [LAUGHTER] 1008 00:26:03,762 --> 00:26:04,562 WAS HE DRIVING TO THE INTERVIEW 1009 00:26:04,629 --> 00:26:05,530 THINKING "I WONDER IF ANY OF THE 1010 00:26:05,597 --> 00:26:06,564 CAMERA CREW WILL STEP IN AS 1011 00:26:06,631 --> 00:26:07,465 BELOVED, PEABODY-AWARD-WINNING 1012 00:26:07,532 --> 00:26:09,301 NEWSMAN SCOTT PELLEY RUNS ME 1013 00:26:09,367 --> 00:26:10,168 ACROSS THE FLOOR LIKE A SWIFFER 1014 00:26:10,235 --> 00:26:11,102 MOP, OR WILL THEY JUST STAND BY 1015 00:26:11,169 --> 00:26:12,370 AS MY LIFELESS BODY IS 1016 00:26:12,437 --> 00:26:12,938 DESERVEDLY WHIPPED BACK AND 1017 00:26:13,004 --> 00:26:15,040 FORTH?" 1018 00:26:15,106 --> 00:26:16,274 [LAUGHTER] 1019 00:26:16,341 --> 00:26:17,275 AND IF YOU'RE WONDERING HOW 1020 00:26:17,342 --> 00:26:18,677 INSURERS CAN GET AWAY WITH THAT 1021 00:26:18,743 --> 00:26:19,711 SORT OF THINKING, IT'S PARTLY 1022 00:26:19,778 --> 00:26:20,912 BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT HAS, TO 1023 00:26:20,979 --> 00:26:22,447 THIS POINT, DONE SHOCKINGLY 1024 00:26:22,514 --> 00:26:23,181 LITTLE WHEN IT COMES TO 1025 00:26:23,248 --> 00:26:25,917 ENFORCING PARITY LAWS. 1026 00:26:25,984 --> 00:26:27,786 MULTIPLE FEDERAL AND STATE 1027 00:26:27,852 --> 00:26:29,120 AGENCIES HAVE RESPONSIBILITY FOR 1028 00:26:29,187 --> 00:26:30,088 THIS, BUT THE TRUTH IS, THEY 1029 00:26:30,155 --> 00:26:31,523 RARELY PENALIZE PLANS. 1030 00:26:31,589 --> 00:26:32,958 THE LABOR DEPARTMENT, WHICH 1031 00:26:33,024 --> 00:26:38,063 OVERSEES MOST WORKPLACE PLANS, 1032 00:26:38,129 --> 00:26:45,503 CLOSED JUST 74 INVESTIGATIONS 1033 00:26:45,570 --> 00:26:46,137 LAST YEAR, FINDING VIOLATIONS IN 1034 00:26:46,204 --> 00:26:47,072 ONLY 12. 1035 00:26:47,138 --> 00:26:48,239 AS FOR STATE-LEVEL ENFORCEMENT, 1036 00:26:48,306 --> 00:26:48,807 A STUDY FOUND THEY'VE LEVIED 1037 00:26:48,873 --> 00:26:53,011 FINES JUST 13 TIMES SINCE 2017, 1038 00:26:53,078 --> 00:26:54,446 WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY PATHETIC. 1039 00:26:54,512 --> 00:26:55,480 AND IT'S NOT JUST PRIVATE 1040 00:26:55,547 --> 00:26:56,147 INSURERS THAT ARE A NIGHTMARE. 1041 00:26:56,214 --> 00:26:57,015 COMMUNITY MENTAL HEALTH CLINICS, 1042 00:26:57,082 --> 00:26:58,984 WHICH OFTEN SERVE LOW-INCOME 1043 00:26:59,050 --> 00:26:59,951 PATIENTS, ARE SUFFERING AS WELL, 1044 00:27:00,018 --> 00:27:00,785 BECAUSE THE REIMBURSEMENT RATES 1045 00:27:00,852 --> 00:27:02,187 FOR PUBLIC INSURANCE, LIKE 1046 00:27:02,253 --> 00:27:03,154 MEDICARE AND MEDICAID, ARE ALSO 1047 00:27:03,221 --> 00:27:04,990 WOEFULLY INSUFFICIENT. 1048 00:27:05,056 --> 00:27:06,992 BASICALLY, FROM TOP TO BOTTOM, 1049 00:27:07,058 --> 00:27:08,927 WE SIGNIFICANTLY UNDERPAY MENTAL 1050 00:27:08,994 --> 00:27:10,795 HEALTH PROFESSIONALS, MANY OF 1051 00:27:10,862 --> 00:27:11,429 WHOM DO DIFFICULT, HIGH-BURNOUT 1052 00:27:11,496 --> 00:27:14,099 WORK. 1053 00:27:14,165 --> 00:27:14,799 IT'S NO WONDER SO MANY OPT OUT 1054 00:27:14,866 --> 00:27:16,334 OF THE SYSTEM. 1055 00:27:16,401 --> 00:27:17,869 ONE STUDY FOUND PATIENTS ARE 1056 00:27:17,936 --> 00:27:19,637 MORE THAN FIVE TIMES AS LIKELY 1057 00:27:19,704 --> 00:27:21,606 TO HAVE TO USE OUT OF NETWORK 1058 00:27:21,673 --> 00:27:23,008 PROVIDERS FOR BEHAVIORAL CARE, 1059 00:27:23,074 --> 00:27:25,010 THAN FOR OTHER MEDICAL SERVICES. 1060 00:27:25,076 --> 00:27:26,177 JUST LISTEN TO THESE TWO 1061 00:27:26,244 --> 00:27:27,612 COUNSELORS WHO SPOKE ANONYMOUSLY 1062 00:27:27,679 --> 00:27:28,513 TO LOCAL NEWS ABOUT THEIR 1063 00:27:28,580 --> 00:27:29,647 CONCERNS OVER WHAT ALL THIS 1064 00:27:29,714 --> 00:27:32,150 MIGHT MEAN. 1065 00:27:32,217 --> 00:27:34,486 >> THE COUNSELORS SAY INSURERS 1066 00:27:34,552 --> 00:27:37,522 TAKE 90 DAYS TO PAY THEM AND THE 1067 00:27:37,589 --> 00:27:40,825 PAYMENTS ARE SO LOW, FEWER 1068 00:27:40,892 --> 00:27:41,426 MENTAL HEALTH PROVIDERS ARE 1069 00:27:41,493 --> 00:27:43,028 TAKING INSURANCE. 1070 00:27:43,094 --> 00:27:44,462 >> WE WILL FACE A CRISIS WHERE 1071 00:27:44,529 --> 00:27:45,463 PEOPLE ARE ONLY ABLE TO GET 1072 00:27:45,530 --> 00:27:46,464 SERVICES IF THEY CAN PAY OUT OF 1073 00:27:46,531 --> 00:27:48,133 POCKET. 1074 00:27:48,199 --> 00:27:49,601 >> BOTH THERAPISTS WANTED US TO 1075 00:27:49,667 --> 00:27:51,102 CONCEAL THEIR IDENTITIES OUT OF 1076 00:27:51,169 --> 00:27:53,138 CONCERN FOR PATIENT PRIVACY AND 1077 00:27:53,204 --> 00:27:54,172 BECAUSE THEY STILL HAVE TO WORK 1078 00:27:54,239 --> 00:27:59,944 WITH INSURANCE COMPANIES. 1079 00:28:00,011 --> 00:28:01,679 >> SO AS PROVIDERS WHEN PEOPLE 1080 00:28:01,746 --> 00:28:03,248 THINK, OH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST 1081 00:28:03,314 --> 00:28:03,882 FOR THE MONEY, OR WE DON'T CARE. 1082 00:28:03,948 --> 00:28:04,849 OH, NO, WE CARE. 1083 00:28:04,916 --> 00:28:06,251 WE CARE A LOT. 1084 00:28:06,317 --> 00:28:07,118 BUT THESE COMPANIES ARE ALSO 1085 00:28:07,185 --> 00:28:07,886 DRIVING US INTO THE GROUND AND 1086 00:28:07,952 --> 00:28:08,787 WE CAN'T -- THIS IS NOT 1087 00:28:08,853 --> 00:28:09,354 SUSTAINABLE. 1088 00:28:09,421 --> 00:28:10,922 >> John: YEAH, OF COURSE IT 1089 00:28:10,989 --> 00:28:11,790 ISN'T. 1090 00:28:11,856 --> 00:28:12,657 THERAPISTS ARE IN A NO-WIN 1091 00:28:12,724 --> 00:28:13,858 SITUATION HERE. 1092 00:28:13,925 --> 00:28:15,360 AND FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, IT'S 1093 00:28:15,427 --> 00:28:16,494 NOT A GREAT SIGN THAT INSURANCE 1094 00:28:16,561 --> 00:28:17,996 COMPANIES ARE NOW SO POWERFUL 1095 00:28:18,063 --> 00:28:19,264 THAT MENTAL HEALTH PROVIDERS 1096 00:28:19,330 --> 00:28:20,098 FEEL THEY HAVE TO GO ON THE NEWS 1097 00:28:20,165 --> 00:28:21,332 LIKE THEY'RE IN WITNESS 1098 00:28:21,399 --> 00:28:22,100 PROTECTION AFTER SEEING SOMEONE 1099 00:28:22,167 --> 00:28:24,402 GET WHACKED. 1100 00:28:24,469 --> 00:28:25,637 [LAUGHTER] 1101 00:28:25,703 --> 00:28:26,905 AND THE THING IS, SOME 1102 00:28:26,971 --> 00:28:28,206 OUT-OF-NETWORK THERAPISTS CAN 1103 00:28:28,273 --> 00:28:29,874 MAKE A LOT OF MONEY, IF THEY 1104 00:28:29,941 --> 00:28:32,544 LIVE IN AN AREA WITH PATIENTS 1105 00:28:32,610 --> 00:28:33,144 THAT CAN AFFORD TO PAY OUT OF 1106 00:28:33,211 --> 00:28:34,579 POCKET. 1107 00:28:34,646 --> 00:28:35,747 BUT FOR THE MANY WHO DON'T, 1108 00:28:35,814 --> 00:28:36,614 THEY'RE STUCK TAKING WHATEVER 1109 00:28:36,681 --> 00:28:39,918 INSURANCE COMPANIES ARE WILLING 1110 00:28:39,984 --> 00:28:40,785 TO PAY, WHICH EXPLAINS WHY 1111 00:28:40,852 --> 00:28:42,287 PSYCHIATRY WAS RANKED ONE OF THE 1112 00:28:42,353 --> 00:28:43,321 LOWEST IN COMPENSATION AMONG 1113 00:28:43,388 --> 00:28:45,356 29 MEDICAL SPECIALTIES. 1114 00:28:45,423 --> 00:28:46,825 AND IT'S NOT JUST DOCTORS. 1115 00:28:46,891 --> 00:28:49,961 COUNSELORS AND SOCIAL WORKERS 1116 00:28:50,028 --> 00:28:51,830 WITH MASTERS DEGREES EARN 33% TO 1117 00:28:51,896 --> 00:28:53,364 45% LESS THAN OTHER HEALTH 1118 00:28:53,431 --> 00:28:54,999 PROFESSIONALS WITH A COMPARABLE 1119 00:28:55,066 --> 00:28:56,401 EDUCATION. 1120 00:28:56,468 --> 00:28:58,069 AND AS BAD AS OUR SITUATION IS 1121 00:28:58,136 --> 00:29:00,371 RIGHT NOW, IT'S GETTING WORSE. 1122 00:29:00,438 --> 00:29:02,307 ONE SURVEY IN MASSACHUSETTS SAID 1123 00:29:02,373 --> 00:29:04,209 THAT FOR EVERY TEN CLINICIANS 1124 00:29:04,275 --> 00:29:05,477 ENTERING WORK IN MENTAL HEALTH 1125 00:29:05,543 --> 00:29:08,079 CLINICS THERE, 13 LEAVE. 1126 00:29:08,146 --> 00:29:10,448 AND IF WE CONTINUE AT THAT RATE, 1127 00:29:10,515 --> 00:29:12,617 ONE DAY, WE'RE GOING TO WIND UP 1128 00:29:12,684 --> 00:29:13,818 WITH NEGATIVE THERAPISTS, WHICH 1129 00:29:13,885 --> 00:29:14,919 I'M PRETTY SURE IS WHAT YOU CALL 1130 00:29:14,986 --> 00:29:15,787 ANYONE WHO RESPONDS TO YOUR 1131 00:29:15,854 --> 00:29:17,255 SERIOUS MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES 1132 00:29:17,322 --> 00:29:18,656 WITH "INTERESTING, I CAN'T WAIT 1133 00:29:18,723 --> 00:29:21,326 TO GET INTO MY JAMMIES LATER." 1134 00:29:21,392 --> 00:29:23,128 [LAUGHTER] 1135 00:29:23,194 --> 00:29:24,696 AND THE COSTS OF LEAVING MENTAL 1136 00:29:24,762 --> 00:29:25,797 HEALTH UNTREATED CAN BE MASSIVE, 1137 00:29:25,864 --> 00:29:26,831 NOT JUST FOR THOSE NEEDING 1138 00:29:26,898 --> 00:29:29,434 IT, BUT FOR ALL OF US. 1139 00:29:29,501 --> 00:29:30,735 MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEMS ARE A BIG 1140 00:29:30,802 --> 00:29:32,370 DRIVER OF HOMELESSNESS, AND ALSO 1141 00:29:32,437 --> 00:29:33,004 FORCE PEOPLE INTO CONTACT WITH 1142 00:29:33,071 --> 00:29:34,372 THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM. 1143 00:29:34,439 --> 00:29:35,807 IN FACT, IT'S OFTEN SAID THAT 1144 00:29:35,874 --> 00:29:38,076 CORRECTIONAL FACILITIES HAVE 1145 00:29:38,143 --> 00:29:39,577 BECOME THE LARGEST PROVIDERS OF 1146 00:29:39,644 --> 00:29:40,211 MENTAL HEALTH CARE SERVICES IN 1147 00:29:40,278 --> 00:29:41,880 OUR COUNTRY. 1148 00:29:41,946 --> 00:29:43,181 BASICALLY, WE'VE GONE FROM 1149 00:29:43,248 --> 00:29:44,682 WAREHOUSING PEOPLE WITH MENTAL 1150 00:29:44,749 --> 00:29:46,017 ILLNESS IN BUILDINGS THAT FELT 1151 00:29:46,084 --> 00:29:47,752 LIKE PRISONS, TO WAREHOUSING 1152 00:29:47,819 --> 00:29:49,621 THEM IN ACTUAL PRISONS INSTEAD. 1153 00:29:49,687 --> 00:29:51,623 IT'S VERY MUCH THE "NEW LOOK, 1154 00:29:51,689 --> 00:29:52,257 SAME GREAT TASTE" OF AMERICA'S 1155 00:29:52,323 --> 00:29:55,193 FAILURES. 1156 00:29:55,260 --> 00:29:56,394 [LAUGHTER] 1157 00:29:56,461 --> 00:29:57,896 SO HOW DO WE FIX ALL THIS? 1158 00:29:57,962 --> 00:29:59,097 WELL, FIRST, THIS IS CLEARLY AN 1159 00:29:59,164 --> 00:30:00,131 ABSURD WAY TO OPERATE A HEALTH 1160 00:30:00,198 --> 00:30:02,800 CARE SYSTEM. 1161 00:30:02,867 --> 00:30:04,135 AND FOR THE UMPTEENTH TIME, I'D 1162 00:30:04,202 --> 00:30:05,236 ARGUE SINGLE-PAYER HEALTH CARE 1163 00:30:05,303 --> 00:30:08,306 IS THE WAY TO GO. 1164 00:30:08,373 --> 00:30:09,340 [APPLAUSE] 1165 00:30:09,407 --> 00:30:10,975 UNFORTUNATELY, WE CAN'T GET 1166 00:30:11,042 --> 00:30:12,043 THAT, BECAUSE IT'S VERY HIGH UP 1167 00:30:12,110 --> 00:30:14,212 ON A SHELF. 1168 00:30:14,279 --> 00:30:15,413 [LAUGHTER] 1169 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:16,681 I DON'T KNOW WHO LEFT IT THERE, 1170 00:30:16,748 --> 00:30:17,248 BUT THEY MUST'VE BEEN TALL 1171 00:30:17,315 --> 00:30:17,949 BECAUSE IT IS WAY TOO HIGH TO 1172 00:30:18,016 --> 00:30:20,451 REACH. 1173 00:30:20,518 --> 00:30:21,085 AND IF YOU'RE THINKING, WHY NOT 1174 00:30:21,152 --> 00:30:22,187 USE A LADDER? 1175 00:30:22,253 --> 00:30:24,622 THE LADDER'S ALSO ON THE SHELF. 1176 00:30:24,689 --> 00:30:25,423 [LAUGHTER] 1177 00:30:25,490 --> 00:30:26,291 IT'S A REALLY FRUSTRATING 1178 00:30:26,357 --> 00:30:27,292 SITUATION. 1179 00:30:27,358 --> 00:30:28,326 BUT IN THE ABSENCE OF THAT, WE 1180 00:30:28,393 --> 00:30:29,327 NEED TO BOTH RECRUIT MORE MENTAL 1181 00:30:29,394 --> 00:30:30,128 HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONALS, AND 1182 00:30:30,195 --> 00:30:30,995 MAKE SURE THAT INSURERS COVER 1183 00:30:31,062 --> 00:30:34,365 THEM PROPERLY. 1184 00:30:34,432 --> 00:30:35,200 NOW, ON THE FIRST POINT, THE 1185 00:30:35,266 --> 00:30:36,134 BIDEN ADMINISTRATION, TO ITS 1186 00:30:36,201 --> 00:30:37,202 CREDIT, ANNOUNCED A PLAN BACK IN 1187 00:30:37,268 --> 00:30:38,136 MARCH THAT'D PROVIDE $100 1188 00:30:38,203 --> 00:30:39,971 BILLION IN MANDATORY FUNDING 1189 00:30:40,038 --> 00:30:41,239 OVER TEN YEARS TO TRANSFORM OUR 1190 00:30:41,306 --> 00:30:43,208 CURRENT SYSTEM, WHICH INCLUDES 1191 00:30:43,274 --> 00:30:44,442 INVESTING $700 MILLION IN 1192 00:30:44,509 --> 00:30:45,610 PROGRAMS TO COVER EVERYTHING 1193 00:30:45,677 --> 00:30:47,245 FROM TRAINING TO SCHOLARSHIPS 1194 00:30:47,312 --> 00:30:48,780 AND LOAN REPAYMENTS FOR THOSE 1195 00:30:48,846 --> 00:30:49,347 COMMITTED TO WORKING IN 1196 00:30:49,414 --> 00:30:51,216 UNDERSERVED AREAS. 1197 00:30:51,282 --> 00:30:52,050 BUT OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S ONLY HALF 1198 00:30:52,116 --> 00:30:54,352 THE BATTLE. 1199 00:30:54,419 --> 00:30:56,154 ON THE INSURANCE COMPANY SIDE, 1200 00:30:56,221 --> 00:30:57,589 WE BADLY NEED TO BE 1201 00:30:57,655 --> 00:30:58,723 STRENGTHENING AND ENFORCING 1202 00:30:58,790 --> 00:31:00,525 THOSE MENTAL-HEALTH PARITY LAWS, 1203 00:31:00,592 --> 00:31:01,559 AT BOTH THE STATE AND FEDERAL 1204 00:31:01,626 --> 00:31:03,428 LEVEL. 1205 00:31:03,494 --> 00:31:04,495 CALIFORNIA HAS ACTUALLY PUT IN 1206 00:31:04,562 --> 00:31:05,630 ONE OF THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE 1207 00:31:05,697 --> 00:31:07,799 PARITY LAWS IN THE COUNTRY. 1208 00:31:07,865 --> 00:31:10,535 AMONG MANY, MANY OTHER THINGS, 1209 00:31:10,602 --> 00:31:13,004 IT REQUIRES THAT INSURERS MUST 1210 00:31:13,071 --> 00:31:14,072 BASE MEDICAL NECESSITY 1211 00:31:14,138 --> 00:31:16,908 DETERMINATIONS ON 1212 00:31:16,975 --> 00:31:19,143 CURRENT, GENERALLY ACCEPTED 1213 00:31:19,210 --> 00:31:23,548 STANDARDS OF MENTAL HEALTH CARE, 1214 00:31:23,615 --> 00:31:25,450 INSTEAD OF JUST MAKING UP THE 1215 00:31:25,516 --> 00:31:30,221 CRITERIA FOR THEMSELVES. 1216 00:31:30,288 --> 00:31:31,322 THAT IS A VERY BIG DEAL, AND 1217 00:31:31,389 --> 00:31:31,856 MORE STATES SHOULD FOLLOW 1218 00:31:31,923 --> 00:31:33,324 CALIFORNIA'S LEAD. 1219 00:31:33,391 --> 00:31:34,425 IN THE PAST, SO MUCH OF THE 1220 00:31:34,492 --> 00:31:35,059 PROBLEM WAS THAT PEOPLE WOULDN'T 1221 00:31:35,126 --> 00:31:35,793 ASK FOR HELP, AND THANKFULLY 1222 00:31:35,860 --> 00:31:36,928 THAT'S NOW LESS OF AN ISSUE NOW, 1223 00:31:36,995 --> 00:31:37,829 THANKS TO, AMONG OTHER THINGS, 1224 00:31:37,895 --> 00:31:40,164 THE TIRELESS GLAND SHAMING OF 1225 00:31:40,231 --> 00:31:42,400 MR. HARRISON FORD. 1226 00:31:42,467 --> 00:31:43,801 [LAUGHTER] 1227 00:31:43,868 --> 00:31:44,802 BUT NOW, WHEN PEOPLE DO REACH 1228 00:31:44,869 --> 00:31:45,536 OUT FOR HELP, WE'RE JUST NOT IN 1229 00:31:45,603 --> 00:31:46,771 A POSITION TO GIVE IT TO THEM. 1230 00:31:46,838 --> 00:31:47,538 IF WE WANT TO BE A SOCIETY THAT 1231 00:31:47,605 --> 00:31:48,773 TRULY RESPECTS AND VALUES MENTAL 1232 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:49,907 HEALTH, WE HAVE TO RESPECT AND 1233 00:31:49,974 --> 00:31:51,909 VALUE MENTAL HEALTH CARE. 1234 00:31:51,976 --> 00:31:52,777 AND THAT MEANS SUPPORTING THE 1235 00:31:52,844 --> 00:31:57,148 PEOPLE WHO DELIVER IT. 1236 00:31:57,215 --> 00:31:59,717 LOOK, IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT 1237 00:31:59,784 --> 00:32:03,221 OF INVESTMENT AND CONTINUED 1238 00:32:03,288 --> 00:32:04,422 RESOLVE TO FIX THINGS, BUT IT'S 1239 00:32:04,489 --> 00:32:05,089 ALSO WORTH IT. 1240 00:32:05,156 --> 00:32:05,723 BECAUSE IT CAN'T BE THE CASE 1241 00:32:05,790 --> 00:32:06,724 THAT, WHEN PEOPLE ASK FOR HELP, 1242 00:32:06,791 --> 00:32:10,395 OUR ONLY OPTION IS TO TELL THEM 1243 00:32:10,461 --> 00:32:11,062 TO "SUCK IT UP, BUTTERCUP." 1244 00:32:11,129 --> 00:32:13,464 AND NOW, THIS. 1245 00:32:13,531 --> 00:32:16,401 >> Announcer: AND NOW, 1246 00:32:16,467 --> 00:32:23,508 THE WORLD'S HORNIEST 1247 00:32:23,574 --> 00:32:23,841 TELEVANGELIST. 1248 00:32:23,908 --> 00:32:25,476 SPEAKER EVERYWHERE I GO I TELL 1249 00:32:25,543 --> 00:32:27,812 PEOPLE TO STROKE THEIR BIBLE, 1250 00:32:27,879 --> 00:32:32,283 RUB IT OVER YOUR FACE. 1251 00:32:32,350 --> 00:32:34,752 >> I REALLY LIKE THAT. 1252 00:32:34,819 --> 00:32:37,955 I LOOK AT A WOMAN'S ANKLES, HER 1253 00:32:38,022 --> 00:32:39,557 TOENAILS, HER FINGERNAILS. 1254 00:32:39,624 --> 00:32:42,327 >> I DON'T KNOW WHY CUTOFFS ARE 1255 00:32:42,393 --> 00:32:43,528 SEXY, BUT THEY ARE. 1256 00:32:43,594 --> 00:32:44,796 I DON'T LIKE LONG SHORTS COME I 1257 00:32:44,862 --> 00:32:47,532 WANT TO SEE EVERYTHING I CAN, I 1258 00:32:47,598 --> 00:32:48,933 AM A MAN. 1259 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,169 >> YOU THINK WHEN I THINK OF 1260 00:32:51,235 --> 00:32:51,703 MARRIAGE I AM THINKING OF 1261 00:32:51,769 --> 00:32:55,273 BLACK-EYED PEAS, CORN, GLASS OF 1262 00:32:55,340 --> 00:32:57,275 ICED TEA? 1263 00:32:57,342 --> 00:33:00,845 THAT IS MARRIED? 1264 00:33:00,912 --> 00:33:02,780 ARE YOU KIDDING ME? 1265 00:33:02,847 --> 00:33:04,315 I WANT A SEX POT STRIPPING ON 1266 00:33:04,382 --> 00:33:05,516 STAGE IN FRONT OF ME IN THE 1267 00:33:05,583 --> 00:33:07,585 BEDROOM. 1268 00:33:07,652 --> 00:33:11,155 ♪ ♪ 1269 00:33:11,222 --> 00:33:12,790 >> COVER THOSE UP, BUT SHE WANTS 1270 00:33:12,857 --> 00:33:18,096 YOU TO SEE THE MOUNTAINS BECAUSE 1271 00:33:18,162 --> 00:33:19,964 MEN SEE MOUNTAINS AND THEY 1272 00:33:20,031 --> 00:33:20,465 START THINKING. 1273 00:33:20,531 --> 00:33:23,000 >> 31 SECRETS OF AN 1274 00:33:23,067 --> 00:33:23,701 UNFORGETTABLE WOMAN. 1275 00:33:23,768 --> 00:33:24,635 UNBELIEVABLE BOOK, I STARTED 1276 00:33:24,702 --> 00:33:26,804 CRYING WHEN I STARTED READING 1277 00:33:26,871 --> 00:33:28,306 THIS BOOK THAT I WAS WRITING. 1278 00:33:28,373 --> 00:33:29,273 [LAUGHTER] 1279 00:33:29,340 --> 00:33:32,377 [APPLAUSE] 1280 00:33:32,443 --> 00:33:33,911 >> John: THAT'S OUR SHOW, 1281 00:33:33,978 --> 00:33:35,780 THANKS SO MUCH FOR WATCHING. 1282 00:33:35,847 --> 00:33:36,347 TO SEE YOU NEXT WEEK, GOOD 1283 00:33:36,414 --> 00:33:38,349 NIGHT. 1284 00:33:38,416 --> 00:33:39,150 >> IN DECEMBER, I'LL BE IN 1285 00:33:39,217 --> 00:33:40,184 BEIJING, OPENING UP NEW PORK