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>> John: WELCOME, WELCOME,

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WELCOME TO "LAST WEEK TONIGHT."

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I'M JOHN OLIVER.

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THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING

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US.

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IT HAS BEEN A BUSY WEEK.

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AL QAIDA'S LEADER WAS KILLED BY

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THE U.S., KANSANS OVERWHELMINGLY

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PRESERVED ABORTION PROTECTIONS,

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AND THERE WAS A BIG SCANDAL IN

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THE WORLD OF SCIENCE.

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>> A PROMINENT FRENCH SCIENTIST

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IS APOLOGIZING AFTER TWEETING A

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PHOTO HE CLAIMED WAS THE IMAGE

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OF A DISTANT STAR TAKEN BY THE

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JAMES WEBB SPACE TELESCOPE.

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TURNS OUT IT WAS ACTUALLY A

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CLOSE UP PHOTO OF A SLICE OF

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CHORIZO SAUSAGE.

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[LAUGHTER]

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>> John: WHAT A GREAT SCIENCE

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JOKE!

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ALSO, THIS IS PROBABLY A GOOD

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TIME TO TELL YOU, THAT OTHER

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JAMES WEBB TELESCOPE PHOTO WAS

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ACTUALLY JUST ONE OF THOSE OLD

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YOU IDIOT!

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[LAUGHTER]

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YOU SERIOUSLY GRAPPLED WITH THE

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EXISTENCE OF EXTRATERRESTRIAL

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LIFE OVER THAT PHOTO.

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WHAT A FUCKING MORON!

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ANYWAY, WE'RE GOING TO START

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TONIGHT WITH ALEX JONES.

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A MAN WHO BOLDLY ANSWERS THE

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QUESTION, "WHAT IF GRIMACE WERE

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A PROUD BOY?"

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[LAUGHTER]

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BECAUSE JONES HAS HAD HIMSELF

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QUITE THE WEEK.

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>> JONES UNDER PRESSURE, FOUND

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LIABLE IN THREE SEPARATE

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DEFAMATION LAWSUITS BROUGHT BY

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THE FAMILIES OF TEN VICTIMS OF

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THE SANDY HOOK MASSACRE.

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THE JURY FOR THIS CASE

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DETERMINING HOW MUCH JONES MUST

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PAY FOR HIS LIES.

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>> SANDY HOOK IS A SYNTHETIC,

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COMPLETELY FAKE, WITH ACTORS, IN

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MY VIEW, MANUFACTURED.

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>> John: LOOK, OBVIOUSLY, THOSE

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CLAIMS WERE DISGUSTING.

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BUT THEY SHOULDN'T BE THAT

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SURPRISING, COMING FROM A GUY

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WHO LITERALLY NAMED HIS PLATFORM

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AFTER GOING TO WAR WITH

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GUESS WHAT, ALEX?

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YOU FUCKED WITH INFO, AND THIS

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TIME, INFO FUCKING WON.

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NOT THAT JONES HAS PUT UP MUCH

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OF A FIGHT.

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IN FACT, JUDGES HAVE ISSUED

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DEFAULT JUDGMENTS AGAINST JONES

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IN MULTIPLE SUITS REGARDING HIS

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SANDY HOOK REMARKS, AFTER HE

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SO THE TRIAL THIS WEEK WAS

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THE FIRST OF THREE IN WHICH THE

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ONLY QUESTION IS DETERMINING HOW

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MUCH HE'LL HAVE TO PAY.

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AND THE WAY HE'S HANDLED THIS

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TRIAL IS ALMOST A MASTER CLASS

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IN "WHAT NOT TO DO IN COURT."

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STARTING WITH THE FACT HE LIED

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SO MANY TIMES, THE EXASPERATED

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>> IT SEEMS ABSURD TO INSTRUCT

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YOU, AGAIN, THAT YOU MUST TELL

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THE TRUTH WHILE YOU TESTIFY, YET

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HERE I AM: YOU MUST TELL THE

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TRUTH WHILE YOU TESTIFY.

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THIS IS NOT YOUR SHOW.

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DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I HAVE

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YES OR NO?

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DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I HAVE

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SAID?

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I BELIEVE WHAT I SAID WAS TRUE,

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SO I DON'T --

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>> YES, YOU BELIEVE EVERYTHING

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YOU SAY IS TRUE, BUT IT ISN'T.

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YOUR BELIEFS DO NOT MAKE

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SOMETHING TRUE.

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THAT IS -- THAT IS WHAT WE'RE

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DOING HERE!

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>> John: YEAH, AND YOU CAN

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UNDERSTAND HER FRUSTRATION

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THERE.

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WHEN IT COMES TO RULES A JUDGE

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DOESN'T EXPECT TO HAVE TO SPELL

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RIGHT UP THERE WITH "YOU HAVE TO

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LEAVE YOUR BEER OUTSIDE,"

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"IT'S NOT ADMISSIBLE EVIDENCE IF

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IT HAPPENED IN A DREAM," AND

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"WE DO NOT CELEBRATE HALLOWEEN

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[LAUGHTER]

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BUT THAT'S NOT THE ONLY WAY

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THAT JONES PROVOKED THE JUDGE.

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BECAUSE HE'S ALSO CONTINUED TO

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DO HIS SHOW, ON WHICH HE

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HAS -- AMONG OTHER THINGS --

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BASELESSLY LINKED HER TO

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PEDOPHILIA, AND SHOWN THIS IMAGE

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OF HER ENGULFED IN FLAMES.

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HE ALSO WENT AFTER THE JURY,

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QUESTIONING THEIR INTELLIGENCE

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AND IMPLYING THAT HIS POLITICAL

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ENEMIES HAD HANDPICKED

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BLUE-COLLAR PEOPLE WHO WERE

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ILL-EQUIPPED TO DECIDE WHAT

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MONETARY DAMAGES HE MUST PAY.

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HE EVEN ENGAGED IN THE PETTIEST

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KIND OF BEHAVIOR, LIKE THIS:

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>> SPIT YOUR GUM OUT, MR JONES.

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>> IT'S NOT GUM.

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>> WELL, WHAT IS IT?

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BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED FOOD

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OR GUM OF ANY KIND IN THE

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COURTROOM.

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>> I HAD MY TOOTH PULLED A WEEK

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AND A HALF AGO.

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AND I HAD SOME GAUZE IN THERE

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EARLIER.

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AND IT'S BEEN CAUSING ME TO HAVE

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SOME PAIN.

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>> SO, YOU'RE CHEWING ON YOUR

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GAUZE?

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>> WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO SHOW

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YOU?

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>> NO.

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>> RIGHT HERE.

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>> I JUST WANT YOU TO ANSWER

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MY QUESTION.

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>> I WAS MASSAGING THE HOLE IN

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MY MOUTH WITH MY TONGUE.

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I'LL SHOW YOU RIGHT HERE.

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INSIDE OF YOUR MOUTH.

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>> John: HOLY SHIT.

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IF YOU HEARD JUST HER SIDE OF

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THAT INTERACTION -- FROM "SPIT

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IT OUT" TO "I DON'T WANT TO SEE

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THE INSIDE OF YOUR MOUTH" --

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A, A SMALL CHILD, OR B, A DOG.

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TALKING TO PROFESSIONAL

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- CONSPIRACIST/
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JONES, UNTIL AT LEAST GUESS D.

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THAT IS PATHETIC ENOUGH BEFORE

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YOU LEARN, LATER THAT DAY, YOU

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COULD VERY CLEARLY SEE HIM

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TURNING AWAY FROM THE JUDGE AND

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PUTTING SOMETHING IN HIS MOUTH.

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LOOK, OBVIOUSLY, A LOT OF THIS

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WAS DELIBERATE SHTICK ON JONES'S

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HE DECIDED TO MAKE THIS COURT

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HEARING A CIRCUS, BECAUSE HE'S

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IN THE CIRCUS BUSINESS.

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WHICH IS PARTICULARLY

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DESPICABLE, BECAUSE THE PARENTS

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OF ONE OF THE CHILDREN THAT WAS

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KILLED AT SANDY HOOK, WHO WERE

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HARASSED CONSTANTLY BY JONES'S

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FANS, WERE IN THAT ROOM.

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BUT THERE WAS ONE TWIST THAT HE

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MAY NOT HAVE SEEN COMING.

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BECAUSE ON WEDNESDAY, ONE OF THE

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LAWYERS FOR THE PARENTS

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INTRODUCED A TEXT MESSAGE FROM

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ALEX JONES'S PHONE, REGARDING

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THE SANDY HOOK SHOOTING.

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WHICH WAS NOTABLE, BECAUSE HE'D

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PREVIOUSLY TESTIFIED THAT HE'D

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SEARCHED HIS PHONE, AND COULD

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FIND NO SUCH MESSAGES.

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AND IT THEN EMERGED EXACTLY HOW

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IT HAD BEEN OBTAINED.

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>> DO YOU KNOW WHERE I GOT THIS?

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>> NO.

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>> MR. JONES, DID YOU KNOW THAT

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12 DAYS AGO -- 12 DAYS AGO --

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YOUR ATTORNEYS MESSED UP AND

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SENT ME AN ENTIRE DIGITAL COPY

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OF YOUR ENTIRE CELL PHONE WITH

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EVERY TEXT MESSAGE YOU'VE SENT

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FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS?

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AND WHEN INFORMED, DID NOT TAKE

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ANY STEPS TO IDENTIFY IT AS

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PRIVILEGED OR PROTECTED IN ANY

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WAY, AND AS OF TWO DAYS AGO, IT

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FELL FREE AND CLEAR INTO MY

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POSSESSION, AND THAT IS HOW I

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KNOW YOU LIED TO ME WHEN YOU

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SAID YOU DIDN'T HAVE TEXT

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MESSAGES ABOUT SANDY HOOK.

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>> John: OH, SHIT!

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[LAUGHTER]

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FIRST, CREDIT TO THAT LAWYER FOR

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HAVING THE SUPERHUMAN PATIENCE

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TO SIT ON THOSE TEXT MESSAGES

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FOR 12 WHOLE DAYS.

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JUST IMAGINE RECEIVING THOSE

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RECORDS, WITH TEXTS THAT

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PROBABLY SAID THINGS LIKE,

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"I KNOW SANDY HOOK REALLY

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HAPPENED, I'M JUST A GHOUL WHO

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WANTS TO MAKE THE WORLD SUFFER

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AND MAKE MONEY DOING IT."

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FOLLOWED IMMEDIATELY BY ONE

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SAYING, "CAN YOU MAKE THE FROGS

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LOOK GAYER IN THE GRAPHICS?"

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[LAUGHTER]

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AND SAYING TO YOURSELF "WAIT,

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YOUR TIME WILL COME."

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BUT THE CONTENTS OF JONES'S

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PHONE COULD BECOME A PROBLEM FOR

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HIM.

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NOT ONLY HAS THE JANUARY 6th

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COMMITTEE ALREADY REQUESTED

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THOSE PHONE RECORDS, BUT THEY

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ALSO SHOW THAT JONES -- WHO'S

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TRIED TO PLEAD POVERTY IN THIS

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CASE -- WAS EARNING REVENUE OF

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AS MUCH AS $800,000 PER DAY IN

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RECENT YEARS FROM SALES.

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IN THE END, IT WAS DETERMINED

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THAT HAS TO PAY $4 MILLION IN

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COMPENSATORY DAMAGES -- BUT, AS

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WE NOW KNOW, THAT COULD BE A

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WEEK'S WORK FOR HIM -- AND

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ANOTHER $45 MILLION IN PUNITIVE

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DAMAGES, THOUGH THAT'LL

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UNDOUBTEDLY BE THE SUBJECT OF

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FURTHER LITIGATION.

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NONE OF THIS IS GOING TO STOP

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HIM.

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THERE ARE TWO MORE TRIALS COMING

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UP, BUT HE'S PROBABLY GOING TO

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FIND WAYS TO TURN THOSE INTO A

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CLOWN SHOW, AND FUNDRAISE OFF

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THEM, TOO.

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BUT AT THE VERY LEAST, THIS

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PHONE THING COULD MAKE HIS LIFE

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MUCH MORE DIFFICULT, AND FOR A

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WHILE.

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AND THAT IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD

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ALL BE ALLOWED TO ENJOY.

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BECAUSE TO WAKE UP ONE MORNING

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AND FIND OUT THAT ALEX JONES'

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LAWYERS MISTAKENLY SHARED HIS

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CELL PHONE RECORDS IS A TRUE

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BLESSING.

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WE DON'T DESERVE THIS, BUT ONE

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THING'S FOR SURE: HE DEFINITELY

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DOES.

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[APPLAUSE]

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AND NOW THIS.

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>> Announcer: AND NOW, SOME

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THOUGHTS FROM C-SPAN'S MOST

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FREQUENT CALLER.

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>> LET'S GET TO SOME PHONE

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CALLS.

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LET'S GO TO WALTER IN BUTLER,

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INDIANA, GOOD MORNING.

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IS THE GOVERNMENT DOING ENOUGH

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TO PREVENT CYBERATTACKS?

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>> THANKS FOR TAKING MY CALL.

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I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER, I HAVE

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NO IDEA.

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>> HERE'S BUTLER, INDIANA, WE

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HEAR FROM WALTER.

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>> WALTER, BUTLER, INDIANA.

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>> WALTER IS JOINING US FROM

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BUTLER, INDIANA.

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>> ON THE REPUBLICAN LINE,

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WALTER.

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>> WALTER.

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>> WALTER, REPUBLICAN LINE.

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GOOD MORNING.

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>> WHEN THIS WHOLE CORONA THING

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STARTED, I HUNKERED DOWN IN MY

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BUNKER, I WENT AND BOUGHT ABOUT

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400 BOTTLES OF GOOD IRISH

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WHISKEY, I LOADED UP WITH ALL

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THE TOP QUALITY MADURO CIGARS.

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I WENT TO THE SUPERMARKET AND

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GOT CORNED BEEF HASH AND SPAM,

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AND I'VE BEEN HANGING OUT IN MY

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BUNKER EVER SINCE.

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I LOVE WATCHING TV BECAUSE

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I'M TOO OLD TO DO EXERCISE SO I

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SIT AND WATCH THE BOOB TUBE.

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>> THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL.

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I USUALLY TALK TO MYSELF AND NO

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ONE LISTENS, BUT NOW I HAVE YOU

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ON THE LINE.

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I DON'T HAVE THE INTERNET, I

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DON'T HAVE FACEBOOK, I DON'T

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HAVE A CELL PHONE.

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WHEN I GET A LITTLE BUMMED OUT,

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I GO OUT AND FEED THE DUCKS.

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>> I AM THE PROUD OWNER OF NO

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INTERNET, NO CELL PHONE, I DON'T

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TWEET, FACEBOOK.

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I WRITE LETTERS IN CURSIVE, I

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PUT THEM IN A MAILBOX WITH A

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RETURN-TO-SENDER ADDRESS ON IT.

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>> I FEEL BAD, YOU'VE GOT YOUR

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CUP OF COFFEE AND YOU'RE

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PROBABLY DYING TO TAKE A SWIG

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OF IT.

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>> I'LL TAKE IT, THANK YOU.

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>> THAT'S PROBABLY ALL I'VE GOT

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TO SAY, BUT I'VE STILL GOT SPAM.

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REMEMBER SPAM?

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THE KEY IS TO OPEN IT UP AND PUT

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IT ON A FRYING PAN, PUT IT

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TOGETHER WITH SOME BREAD AND

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MAYO AND YOU'RE GOOD TO GO.

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>> REMEMBER, WALTER, 30 DAYS IS

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THE IN-BETWEEN CALLS HERE ON

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"WASHINGTON JOURNAL."

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[APPLAUSE]

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>> John: MOVING ON.

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OUR MAIN STORY TONIGHT CONCERNS

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SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN GETTING

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MORE AND MORE URGENT OVER THE

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PAST TWO MONTHS: LEA MICHELE'S

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COMEBACK.

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IT'S AN UNPLEASANT SURPRISE, AND

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THE LONGER WE LET IT CONTINUE,

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THE HARDER IT'LL BE TO STOP.

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SORRY, DID I SAY LEA MICHELE'S

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COMEBACK?

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I MEANT MONKEYPOX.

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MONKEYPOX HAS COME AS AN

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UNPLEASANT SURPRISE, AND IS

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BECOMING INCREASINGLY HARD TO

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STOP.

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FOR THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS, YOU

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MAY HAVE NOTICED MONKEYPOX BEING

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DISCUSSED WITH AN INCREASING

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SENSE OF ALARM.

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>> THERE ARE NOW DOZENS OF

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CONFIRMED CASES OF MONKEYPOX IN

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THE UNITED STATES.

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>> HUNDREDS OF CONFIRMED

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MONKEYPOX CASES IN THE U.S.

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>> U.S. CASES SKYROCKET FROM

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1,400 LESS THAN TWO WEEKS AGO TO

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NEARLY 3,000 TODAY.

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>> THE CDC NOW REPORTING MORE

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THAN 4,600 CASES.

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>> MORE THAN 5,200 CASES

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REPORTED.

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>> MORE THAN 6,300 CASES NOW

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REPORTED.

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>> CURRENTLY, THE U.S. LEADS THE

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WORLD IN CASE COUNT, WITH OVER

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7,000.

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>> John: YEAH, MONKEYPOX CASES

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ARE RISING SHARPLY.

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AND THAT'S THE ABSOLUTE WORST

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COLLECTION OF WORDS YOU'RE GOING

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TO HEAR THIS SUMMER, ASIDE FROM

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MAYBE "50 YEAR-OLD DANE COOK

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ENGAGED TO LONGTIME 23 YEAR-OLD

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GIRLFRIEND."

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ALTHOUGH THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY

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FAIR.

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IT'S NOT THAT BIG OF AN AGE

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DIFFERENCE, THEY'RE JUST AN

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ENTIRE TIMOTHEE CHALAMET APART.

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MATH IS FUN!

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BUT THE SPREAD OF MONKEYPOX IS

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GENUINELY ALARMING.

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ITS MOST OBVIOUS SYMPTOM IS SKIN

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LESIONS, WHICH CAN IN SEVERE

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CASES BE EXTREMELY PAINFUL, AND

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WHILE THE PAIN IS NOT REMOTELY

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FUNNY, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN GETTING

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VERY CREATIVE IN HOW THEY

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DESCRIBE IT.

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>> I HAD BETWEEN 6 AND 800

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LESIONS.

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IT WAS LIKE SOMEONE TAKING A

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HOLE PUNCHER ALL OVER MY BODY,

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RIGHT UNDER MY SKIN.

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>> IT'S LIKE SOMEBODY TAKES A

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DULL KNIFE THAT IS SEARINGLY HOT

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AND IS CUTTING INSIDE OF YOU AND

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THEN USES A TOOTHBRUSH

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AFTERWARDS AND BRUSHES IT.

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>> ANY TIME IT GRAZES SOMETHING

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OR TOUCHES SOMETHING, IT

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LITERALLY FEELS LIKE SOMEONE'S

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TAKING A POTATO PEELER TO YOUR

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SKIN.

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>> IT'S LIKE SITTING ON SHARDS

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OF GLASS.

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AND I HOPE THAT'S PG-RATED

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ENOUGH.

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>> John: THAT SOUNDS REALLY BAD.

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AND THIS ISN'T THE POINT, BUT

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"SITTING ON SHARDS OF GLASS,"

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WHILE NOT ENTIRELY GRAPHIC,

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ISN'T EXACTLY PG EITHER.

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IF YOU TOOK YOUR KIDS TO SEE

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"MINIONS: RISE OF GRU" AND THE

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FIRST TEN MINUTES WAS THE YELLOW

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THUMBS PLOPPING THEIR ASSES ON

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SHARDS OF GLASS, YOU'D RACE YOUR

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KIDS OUT OF THE THEATER

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IMMEDIATELY.

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SADLY, AS WITH COVID, THERE'S A

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LOT OF MISINFORMATION FLYING

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AROUND RIGHT NOW.

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ONLINE, THERE ARE THEORIES LIKE

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"MONKEYPOX CAN BE CAUSED BY THE

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COVID VACCINE."

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WHICH IT CAN'T.

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AND THAT IT ESCAPED FROM A LAB,

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WHICH IT DIDN'T.

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A SPREADING VIRUS, YET AGAIN,

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IS BRINGING OUT THE WORST IN

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PEOPLE, INCLUDING TARGETING

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THOSE SUSPECTED OF CARRYING IT.

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TAKE THIS TIKTOK VIDEO OF A

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WOMAN ON THE SUBWAY, WITH AN

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IMAGE OF A MONKEY AND A QUESTION

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MARK, CLEARLY IMPLYING SHE HAD

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MONKEYPOX.

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IT GOT OVER TWO MILLION VIEWS,

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AND WHEN THE WOMAN IN QUESTION

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FOUND OUT, THIS IS HOW SHE

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RESPONDED:

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>> HI, I'M THE GIRL FROM THE

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VIDEO IN WHICH YOU'RE WATCHING

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IS ME SITTING ON THE TRAIN

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TALKING ON THE PHONE.

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THE SKIN CONDITION THAT I HAVE

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IS CALLED NF1, AND THE BUMPS

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THAT YOU SEE ARE TUMORS.

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THE TUMORS ARE BENIGN, BUT

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THEY'RE STILL ALL OVER MY SKIN

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AND GIVE ME A LOT OF HEALTH

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COMPLICATIONS, BOTH PHYSICAL AND

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MENTAL.

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YOU KNOW, I'VE COME A LONG WAY,

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AND I LIKE ME.

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BUT YOU KNOW, I'M NOT THAT

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HEALED, AND I'M NOT ABOVE BEING

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VENGEFUL.

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>> John: YEAH, 5,000 MIDDLE

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FINGERS TO THE DUMB FUCK THAT

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THOUGHT TAKING AN UNSOLICITED

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VIDEO OF A COMPLETE STRANGER AND

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STIGMATIZING THEM FOR A MEDICAL

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CONDITION WAS A GOOD IDEA.

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THAT IS CLEARLY NOT WHAT TIKTOK

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IS FOR.

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TIKTOK IS FOR DISCOVERING YOU'VE

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BEEN OPENING FREEZER POPS WRONG

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YOUR ENTIRE LIFE.

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YEAH, YOU JUST SNAP IT IN THE

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MIDDLE!

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NO SCISSORS NECESSARY, MY WHOLE

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LIFE HAS BEEN A LIE!

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[LAUGHTER]

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FRUSTRATINGLY, DESPITE THE FACT

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WE'RE STILL IN THE MIDDLE OF THE

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COVID PANDEMIC, WE SEEM TO BE

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REPLICATING SOME OF ITS KEY

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MISTAKES, FROM PERSECUTING

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STRANGERS TO SPREADING

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MISINFORMATION TO BADLY

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MISMANAGING THE PUBLIC-HEALTH

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RESPONSE.

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SO TONIGHT, WE THOUGHT IT'D BE

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WORTH TALKING ABOUT MONKEYPOX:

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WHAT IT IS, HOW WE'VE FUMBLED

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OUR RESPONSE TO IT, AND WHAT WE

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SHOULD DO GOING FORWARD.

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AND LET'S START WITH THE BASICS

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HERE.

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MONKEYPOX IS A POX VIRUS.

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IT'S PART OF THE SAME FAMILY

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THAT CAUSES SMALLPOX, THOUGH

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THANKFULLY, IT'S NOT NEARLY AS

518
00:13:19,866 --> 00:13:21,433
TRANSMISSIBLE OR AS FATAL.

519
00:13:21,500 --> 00:13:23,266
IT USUALLY PRESENTS IN HUMANS

520
00:13:23,333 --> 00:13:24,633
WITH FEVER, SWOLLEN LYMPH NODES,

521
00:13:24,700 --> 00:13:25,833
EXHAUSTION, HEADACHE, AND A

522
00:13:25,900 --> 00:13:28,833
RASH, THOUGH IT CAN ALSO CAUSE

523
00:13:28,900 --> 00:13:29,733
COMPLICATIONS LIKE BLINDNESS, IF

524
00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,100
THE LESIONS REACH YOUR EYES, AND

525
00:13:31,166 --> 00:13:31,833
IN RARE CASES, CAN RESULT IN

526
00:13:31,900 --> 00:13:33,266
DEATH.

527
00:13:33,333 --> 00:13:35,133
NOW, QUICK NOTE ON THE NAME.

528
00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:35,833
DESPITE BEING CALLED MONKEYPOX,

529
00:13:35,900 --> 00:13:37,000
IT DIDN'T ACTUALLY ORIGINATE IN

530
00:13:37,066 --> 00:13:38,200
MONKEYS.

531
00:13:38,266 --> 00:13:40,500
IT WAS FIRST DISCOVERED IN 1958

532
00:13:40,566 --> 00:13:41,900
IN MONKEYS, IN DENMARK, BUT THEY

533
00:13:41,966 --> 00:13:43,066
LIKELY GOT IT FROM RODENTS, WHO

534
00:13:43,133 --> 00:13:43,666
ARE THOUGHT TO BE THE MAIN

535
00:13:43,733 --> 00:13:46,100
CARRIERS.

536
00:13:46,166 --> 00:13:47,433
IN FACT, IT'S ENDEMIC IN RODENTS

537
00:13:47,500 --> 00:13:48,966
IN CENTRAL AND WEST AFRICA,

538
00:13:49,033 --> 00:13:50,733
WHERE THERE'VE BEEN SPORADIC

539
00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:52,733
OUTBREAKS FOR DECADES NOW, AND

540
00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:53,866
IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN TRANSMITTING

541
00:13:53,933 --> 00:13:54,766
BETWEEN PEOPLE CONTINUOUSLY IN

542
00:13:54,833 --> 00:13:55,633
NIGERIA FOR AT LEAST FIVE YEARS

543
00:13:55,700 --> 00:13:58,466
NOW.

544
00:13:58,533 --> 00:13:59,733
INTERESTINGLY, THE U.S. EVEN HAD

545
00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:01,466
ITS OWN MONKEYPOX OUTBREAK

546
00:14:01,533 --> 00:14:02,700
NEARLY 20 YEARS AGO, WHICH CAME

547
00:14:02,766 --> 00:14:03,633
ABOUT THANKS TO AN UNEXPECTED

548
00:14:03,700 --> 00:14:06,400
CULPRIT.

549
00:14:06,466 --> 00:14:07,266
>> HEALTH OFFICIALS ARE

550
00:14:07,333 --> 00:14:09,000
INVESTIGATING WHAT APPEARS TO BE

551
00:14:09,066 --> 00:14:09,933
ANOTHER CASE OF AN ANIMAL VIRUS

552
00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,700
THAT HAS JUMPED TO HUMAN BEINGS.

553
00:14:12,766 --> 00:14:14,000
IT'S CALLED MONKEYPOX AND IT

554
00:14:14,066 --> 00:14:14,900
MAY BE LINKED TO PET PRAIRIE

555
00:14:14,966 --> 00:14:17,366
DOGS IN THE MIDWEST.

556
00:14:17,433 --> 00:14:19,100
>> THE MIDWESTERN PRAIRIE DOG IS

557
00:14:19,166 --> 00:14:20,500
NOT A COMMON PET, BUT SOME PET

558
00:14:20,566 --> 00:14:22,033
STORES HAVE BEEN SELLING THEM,

559
00:14:22,100 --> 00:14:23,133
ALONG WITH OTHER EXOTIC ANIMALS

560
00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,800
FROM AROUND THE WORLD.

561
00:14:25,866 --> 00:14:27,200
AND THAT, SAY INVESTIGATORS, IS

562
00:14:27,266 --> 00:14:29,133
WHY 30 PEOPLE TODAY ARE

563
00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,100
SUSPECTED OF HAVING A DISEASE

564
00:14:31,166 --> 00:14:31,766
THAT HAS NEVER BEEN SEEN BEFORE

565
00:14:31,833 --> 00:14:33,533
IN THIS COUNTRY.

566
00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:40,466
>> John: OKAY, I HAVE ONE MAIN

567
00:14:40,533 --> 00:14:42,833
QUESTION, AND IT'S THIS: WHY THE

568
00:14:42,900 --> 00:14:44,666
FUCK ANYONE WOULD WANT TO OWN A

569
00:14:44,733 --> 00:14:47,100
PRAIRIE DOG?

570
00:14:47,166 --> 00:14:47,966
AND YOU KNOW ME -- I HAVE AN

571
00:14:48,033 --> 00:14:48,566
ABOUNDING LOVE FOR THE RODENT

572
00:14:48,633 --> 00:14:49,100
COMMUNITY.

573
00:14:49,166 --> 00:14:49,966
GUINEA PIGS?

574
00:14:50,033 --> 00:14:50,766
EXCELLENT.

575
00:14:50,833 --> 00:14:51,433
HAMSTERS?

576
00:14:51,500 --> 00:14:52,100
PERFECT.

577
00:14:52,166 --> 00:14:52,900
CAPYBARA?

578
00:14:52,966 --> 00:14:53,600
BIG, PENSIVE SWEETIE.

579
00:14:53,666 --> 00:14:54,366
BUT IT'S GONNA BE A HARD PASS

580
00:14:54,433 --> 00:14:55,133
FROM ME ON THIS LITTLE

581
00:14:55,200 --> 00:15:00,333
PLAGUE-RIDDEN FREDDY KRUGER.

582
00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:01,433
LOOK AT THOSE FUCKING HANDS!

583
00:15:01,500 --> 00:15:02,533
ALSO, QUICK SHOUT OUT TO THE

584
00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:03,266
ABSOLUTE DIPSHIT THAT CAME UP

585
00:15:03,333 --> 00:15:04,100
WITH THAT NAME.

586
00:15:04,166 --> 00:15:05,100
POUR ONE OUT FOR THE STUPIDEST

587
00:15:05,166 --> 00:15:05,833
FRIEND OF LAURA INGALLS WILDER,

588
00:15:05,900 --> 00:15:06,733
WHO SAW AN ANIMAL THAT IS,

589
00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:07,600
GENEROUSLY, A BIG HAMSTER THAT

590
00:15:07,666 --> 00:15:09,633
FUCKED A MEERKAT WITH GARDEN

591
00:15:09,700 --> 00:15:10,900
RAKES FOR HANDS, AND WENT "DOG,"

592
00:15:10,966 --> 00:15:12,133
AND IT SOMEHOW STUCK.

593
00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:13,100
NOW, THANKFULLY, WE MANAGED TO

594
00:15:13,166 --> 00:15:14,166
CONTAIN THAT PARTICULAR

595
00:15:14,233 --> 00:15:15,200
OUTBREAK, AND PUT A STOP TO THE

596
00:15:15,266 --> 00:15:16,100
SALE OF PRAIRIE DOGS BEFORE

597
00:15:16,166 --> 00:15:17,066
PERSON-TO-PERSON CONTACT COULD

598
00:15:17,133 --> 00:15:19,233
BEGIN.

599
00:15:19,300 --> 00:15:19,933
BUT NOW, THINGS ARE CLEARLY

600
00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:24,500
DIFFERENT.

601
00:15:24,566 --> 00:15:29,466
AND LOOK, THERE'S STILL A LOT WE

602
00:15:29,533 --> 00:15:30,066
DON'T KNOW, AND INFORMATION WE

603
00:15:30,133 --> 00:15:30,733
HAVE IS STILL VERY MUCH SUBJECT

604
00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:31,366
TO CHANGE.

605
00:15:31,433 --> 00:15:32,200
BUT AS IT STANDS, AS OF THIS

606
00:15:32,266 --> 00:15:32,800
TAPING, THE VAST MAJORITY OF

607
00:15:32,866 --> 00:15:33,600
CASES HAVE BEEN AMONG GAY AND

608
00:15:33,666 --> 00:15:34,366
BISEXUAL MEN AND THEIR SEXUAL

609
00:15:34,433 --> 00:15:35,300
NETWORKS.

610
00:15:35,366 --> 00:15:36,133
THE VIRUS SPREADS THROUGH

611
00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:37,066
SUSTAINED SKIN-TO-SKIN CONTACT.

612
00:15:37,133 --> 00:15:37,933
AND IT'S CURRENTLY BELIEVED TO

613
00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:38,833
BE SPREADING MOST COMMONLY

614
00:15:38,900 --> 00:15:40,900
DURING SEX.

615
00:15:40,966 --> 00:15:41,766
THOUGH IN RARER CASES, IT CAN

616
00:15:41,833 --> 00:15:42,866
SPREAD THROUGH RESPIRATORY

617
00:15:42,933 --> 00:15:44,233
DROPLETS DURING PROLONGED

618
00:15:44,300 --> 00:15:46,033
FACE-TO-FACE CONTACT, OR THROUGH

619
00:15:46,100 --> 00:15:47,233
BEDDING OR TOWELS USED BY

620
00:15:47,300 --> 00:15:49,166
SOMEONE WITH MONKEYPOX.

621
00:15:49,233 --> 00:15:50,666
AND THE THING IS, NOT LONG AGO,

622
00:15:50,733 --> 00:15:52,033
THERE WAS AN EXPECTATION THAT

623
00:15:52,100 --> 00:15:52,533
THIS OUTBREAK MIGHT BE

624
00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,833
CONTAINABLE.

625
00:15:54,900 --> 00:15:56,933
AT THE END OF MAY, WHEN THERE

626
00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:58,100
WERE ROUGHLY 130 CONFIRMED CASES

627
00:15:58,166 --> 00:16:01,533
OUTSIDE OF AFRICA, ONE W.H.O.

628
00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:02,666
OFFICIAL SAID THIS:

629
00:16:02,733 --> 00:16:04,133
>> THIS OUTBREAK CAN STILL BE

630
00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:05,666
CONTAINED, AND IT IS THE

631
00:16:05,733 --> 00:16:07,100
OBJECTIVE OF THE WORLD HEALTH

632
00:16:07,166 --> 00:16:08,966
ORGANIZATION AND MEMBER STATES

633
00:16:09,033 --> 00:16:09,600
TO CONTAIN THIS OUTBREAK AND TO

634
00:16:09,666 --> 00:16:11,400
STOP IT.

635
00:16:11,466 --> 00:16:17,800
>> John: YEAH, THAT SOUNDED

636
00:16:17,866 --> 00:16:18,900
PRETTY REASSURING, DIDN'T IT?

637
00:16:18,966 --> 00:16:19,733
AND I, FOR ONE, WANT TO BELIEVE

638
00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:25,333
THE WORDS OF THE HEAD OF THE

639
00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:26,566
"SMALLPOX SECRETARIAT," WHICH IS

640
00:16:26,633 --> 00:16:27,600
A VERY IMPRESSIVE-SOUNDING JOB,

641
00:16:27,666 --> 00:16:28,300
WHILE ALSO SOUNDING LIKE THE

642
00:16:28,366 --> 00:16:29,266
MOST DEPRESSING MOVIE SEQUEL OF

643
00:16:29,333 --> 00:16:31,366
ALL TIME.

644
00:16:31,433 --> 00:16:32,200
[LAUGHTER]

645
00:16:32,266 --> 00:16:33,433
AND TO BE FAIR, THAT OPTIMISM

646
00:16:33,500 --> 00:16:33,866
WASN'T UNWARRANTED.

647
00:16:33,933 --> 00:16:34,833
THERE WERE MANY REASONS TO THINK

648
00:16:34,900 --> 00:16:35,400
THAT WE COULD, AND INDEED

649
00:16:35,466 --> 00:16:36,333
SHOULD, QUICKLY GET THIS UNDER

650
00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:37,166
CONTROL.

651
00:16:37,233 --> 00:16:37,966
FIRST, BECAUSE MONKEYPOX HAS

652
00:16:38,033 --> 00:16:38,800
BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE, WE'RE

653
00:16:38,866 --> 00:16:39,566
AT LEAST SOMEWHAT FAMILIAR WITH

654
00:16:39,633 --> 00:16:40,800
IT.

655
00:16:40,866 --> 00:16:42,433
ALSO, BECAUSE IT'S SIMILAR TO

656
00:16:42,500 --> 00:16:44,700
SMALLPOX, THERE'S GOOD REASON TO

657
00:16:44,766 --> 00:16:45,566
BELIEVE THE TOOLS WE ALREADY

658
00:16:45,633 --> 00:16:46,600
HAVE TO FIGHT THAT, WORK ON

659
00:16:46,666 --> 00:16:48,066
MONKEYPOX, TOO.

660
00:16:48,133 --> 00:16:49,500
SO THIS WASN'T LIKE THE EARLY

661
00:16:49,566 --> 00:16:51,433
DAYS OF COVID, WHEN WE DIDN'T

662
00:16:51,500 --> 00:16:53,200
KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ANYTHING.

663
00:16:53,266 --> 00:16:55,133
REMEMBER MARCH 2020?

664
00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,133
WE WERE LYSOLING OUR GROCERIES

665
00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,100
LIKE THEY CAME OUT OF THE SEWER,

666
00:16:59,166 --> 00:17:00,833
GERALDO WAS ON TV CLAIMING YOU

667
00:17:00,900 --> 00:17:02,433
COULD TEST FOR COVID BY HOLDING

668
00:17:02,500 --> 00:17:07,466
YOUR BREATH, AND WE DID A SHOW

669
00:17:07,533 --> 00:17:08,800
ON THE CORONAVIRUS ON MARCH 1st,

670
00:17:08,866 --> 00:17:10,433
2020, IN WHICH THE MAIN ADVICE

671
00:17:10,500 --> 00:17:11,666
THAT WE GAVE OUR FULL, UNMASKED,

672
00:17:11,733 --> 00:17:12,300
STUDIO AUDIENCE WAS TO WASH

673
00:17:12,366 --> 00:17:13,133
THEIR HANDS.

674
00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:13,933
I EVEN DID A LITTLE DANCE ABOUT

675
00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:14,933
IT.

676
00:17:15,033 --> 00:17:16,600
AND WHILE I WAS CLEARLY WRONG

677
00:17:16,666 --> 00:17:20,133
ABOUT COVID, I WAS RIGHT ABOUT

678
00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:21,000
THOSE MOVES.

679
00:17:21,066 --> 00:17:21,933
I LOOK LIKE JULIA STILES IN

680
00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,900
"SAVE THE LAST DANCE."

681
00:17:23,966 --> 00:17:25,033
VERY WHITE AND UNNECESSARILY

682
00:17:25,100 --> 00:17:27,800
HYPED UP BY THE CROWD.

683
00:17:27,866 --> 00:17:28,466
[LAUGHTER]

684
00:17:28,533 --> 00:17:29,733
BUT WITH MONKEYPOX WE WERE IN

685
00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:30,900
THE FORTUNATE POSITION OF HAVING

686
00:17:30,966 --> 00:17:31,800
PRE-EXISTING TESTS, VACCINES,

687
00:17:31,866 --> 00:17:33,433
AND TREATMENTS.

688
00:17:33,500 --> 00:17:35,033
UNFORTUNATELY, THE ROLLOUT OF

689
00:17:35,100 --> 00:17:35,966
EACH OF THEM HAS BEEN PAINFULLY

690
00:17:36,033 --> 00:17:36,900
FLAWED.

691
00:17:36,966 --> 00:17:39,166
AND LET'S START WITH TESTS.

692
00:17:39,233 --> 00:17:41,000
TESTING FOR MONKEYPOX WAS

693
00:17:41,066 --> 00:17:42,733
INITIALLY SILOED WITHIN THE CDC

694
00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:43,966
AND ITS NETWORK OF PUBLIC-HEALTH

695
00:17:44,033 --> 00:17:44,600
LABS, OF WHICH THERE ARE AROUND

696
00:17:44,666 --> 00:17:46,466
70.

697
00:17:46,533 --> 00:17:49,400
PEOPLE ALSO HAD TO MEET CERTAIN

698
00:17:49,466 --> 00:17:50,533
ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA TO QUALIFY

699
00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,366
FOR TESTING, MAKING THE WHOLE

700
00:17:52,433 --> 00:17:55,066
PROCESS SLOW AND CUMBERSOME.

701
00:17:55,133 --> 00:17:56,266
AND "SLOW AND CUMBERSOME" ARE

702
00:17:56,333 --> 00:17:58,033
THE LAST WORDS YOU WANT TO HEAR

703
00:17:58,100 --> 00:17:59,366
IN THE EARLY DAYS OF A DISEASE

704
00:17:59,433 --> 00:18:01,266
OUTBREAK, APART FROM, OF COURSE,

705
00:18:01,333 --> 00:18:02,633
THE OPENING LINES OF "IMAGINE"

706
00:18:02,700 --> 00:18:05,566
SUNG A CAPPELLA.

707
00:18:05,633 --> 00:18:07,433
[LAUGHTER]

708
00:18:07,500 --> 00:18:08,500
AS OF EARLY JUNE, WE WERE ONLY

709
00:18:08,566 --> 00:18:10,466
CONDUCTING TEN TESTS PER DAY, IN

710
00:18:10,533 --> 00:18:13,033
TOTAL, ACROSS THE COUNTRY,

711
00:18:13,100 --> 00:18:13,666
INCREASING TO JUST 60 BY THE END

712
00:18:13,733 --> 00:18:16,033
OF THE MONTH.

713
00:18:16,100 --> 00:18:17,233
THANKFULLY, TESTING HAS RAMPED

714
00:18:17,300 --> 00:18:18,966
UP SINCE THEN, WITH THE BIDEN

715
00:18:19,033 --> 00:18:20,400
ADMINISTRATION FINALLY ALLOWING

716
00:18:20,466 --> 00:18:21,900
COMMERCIAL LABS TO TEST AS WELL,

717
00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:22,833
BUT BARRIERS STILL VERY MUCH

718
00:18:22,900 --> 00:18:32,533
REMAIN.

719
00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:36,600
FOR ONE THING, THERE IS ONLY ONE

720
00:18:36,666 --> 00:18:41,600
FDA APPROVED TEST, REQUIRING YOU

721
00:18:41,666 --> 00:18:42,600
TO SWAB LESIONS.

722
00:18:42,666 --> 00:18:43,400
WHICH, ASIDE FROM BEING PAINFUL,

723
00:18:43,466 --> 00:18:44,166
MEANS YOU HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL

724
00:18:44,233 --> 00:18:44,866
THEY APPEAR TO EVEN RUN A TEST,

725
00:18:44,933 --> 00:18:45,866
AND THEY MAY NOT BE THE FIRST

726
00:18:45,933 --> 00:18:46,666
SYMPTOM.

727
00:18:46,733 --> 00:18:47,600
SO UNTIL WE GET NEW TESTS, LIKE

728
00:18:47,666 --> 00:18:48,600
THE SALIVA ONES ALREADY BEING

729
00:18:48,666 --> 00:18:49,333
USED IN EUROPE, OUR CASE NUMBERS

730
00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:50,333
ARE ALWAYS GOING TO LAG.

731
00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:51,133
BUT WHAT'S MORE, WE,

732
00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:51,966
RIDICULOUSLY, DON'T HAVE A

733
00:18:52,033 --> 00:18:52,900
SYSTEM FOR GATHERING AND SHARING

734
00:18:52,966 --> 00:18:53,966
DATA.

735
00:18:54,033 --> 00:18:55,100
MONKEYPOX WAS SPREADING FOR MORE

736
00:18:55,166 --> 00:18:56,100
THAN TWO MONTHS BEFORE STATES

737
00:18:56,166 --> 00:18:57,433
WERE EVEN REQUIRED TO SHARE DATA

738
00:18:57,500 --> 00:18:58,766
WITH THE CDC, MAKING TRACKING

739
00:18:58,833 --> 00:19:00,066
CASES ACROSS THE COUNTRY

740
00:19:00,133 --> 00:19:02,033
INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT.

741
00:19:02,100 --> 00:19:03,500
AND THE TRUTH IS, EVEN

742
00:19:03,566 --> 00:19:05,433
COMMUNICATION WITHIN STATES CAN

743
00:19:05,500 --> 00:19:07,200
BE ABSURDLY ANTIQUATED.

744
00:19:07,266 --> 00:19:08,666
>> YOU KNOW, I TALKED TO

745
00:19:08,733 --> 00:19:10,266
OFFICIALS IN MISSOURI AND

746
00:19:10,333 --> 00:19:11,800
FLORIDA WHO ARE COUNTING

747
00:19:11,866 --> 00:19:13,500
MONKEYPOX CASES VIA FAX.

748
00:19:13,566 --> 00:19:14,666
I THINK WE ALL, IN THE UNITED

749
00:19:14,733 --> 00:19:15,566
STATES, KIND OF EXPECT PUBLIC

750
00:19:15,633 --> 00:19:16,433
HEALTH TO WORK LIKE AMAZON

751
00:19:16,500 --> 00:19:17,566
PRIME.

752
00:19:17,633 --> 00:19:18,633
YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA GET OUR

753
00:19:18,700 --> 00:19:19,366
PACKAGES IN TWO DAYS AND

754
00:19:19,433 --> 00:19:21,200
EVERYTHING WILL BE FIXED.

755
00:19:21,266 --> 00:19:23,266
BUT, UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW,

756
00:19:23,333 --> 00:19:24,066
PUBLIC HEALTH IN THIS COUNTRY

757
00:19:24,133 --> 00:19:24,733
HAS BEEN UNDERFUNDED FOR

758
00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,366
DECADES.

759
00:19:26,433 --> 00:19:28,000
>> John: OKAY, FIRST, THE ONLY

760
00:19:28,066 --> 00:19:29,333
WAY WE THINK PUBLIC HEALTH IS

761
00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:30,566
LIKE AMAZON PRIME IS THAT THEY

762
00:19:30,633 --> 00:19:31,200
BOTH FORCE PEOPLE TO PEE IN

763
00:19:31,266 --> 00:19:34,233
PLASTIC CONTAINERS.

764
00:19:34,300 --> 00:19:35,166
[LAUGHTER]

765
00:19:35,233 --> 00:19:36,933
BUT SECOND, FAX MACHINES?

766
00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:38,066
THE ONLY THING FAX MACHINES

767
00:19:38,133 --> 00:19:39,200
SHOULD BE USED FOR NOWADAYS IS

768
00:19:39,266 --> 00:19:40,333
FOR ENDING THE SENTENCE, "HEY,

769
00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,733
REMEMBER FAX MACHINES?"

770
00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:44,433
[LAUGHTER]

771
00:19:44,500 --> 00:19:46,600
AND THAT IS IT.

772
00:19:46,666 --> 00:19:47,866
SO, WE DIDN'T KNOW WHERE THE

773
00:19:47,933 --> 00:19:49,000
CASES WERE OR HOW MANY THERE

774
00:19:49,066 --> 00:19:49,866
WERE, AND WHATEVER NUMBERS WE

775
00:19:49,933 --> 00:19:51,200
DID HAVE WERE LIKELY DRASTIC

776
00:19:51,266 --> 00:19:51,933
UNDERCOUNTS, BECAUSE WE WEREN'T

777
00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:53,000
TESTING ENOUGH.

778
00:19:53,066 --> 00:19:54,933
WHICH IS ALREADY VERY BAD.

779
00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,566
THEN, THERE'S THE VACCINES.

780
00:19:56,633 --> 00:19:57,500
WHERE, AGAIN, WE SHOULD'VE BEEN

781
00:19:57,566 --> 00:19:59,466
IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE.

782
00:19:59,533 --> 00:20:01,000
THE U.S. GOVERNMENT'S ACTUALLY

783
00:20:01,066 --> 00:20:02,400
BEEN DEVELOPING AND STOCKPILING

784
00:20:02,466 --> 00:20:04,500
NEW SMALLPOX VACCINES SINCE

785
00:20:04,566 --> 00:20:05,566
9/11, WHEN THERE WERE FEARS THAT

786
00:20:05,633 --> 00:20:07,533
IT WOULD BE USED AS A BIOWEAPON.

787
00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:08,633
JUST WATCH THIS SEGMENT FROM

788
00:20:08,700 --> 00:20:09,566
2002, WHICH FEATURES A FAMILIAR

789
00:20:09,633 --> 00:20:11,600
FACE.

790
00:20:11,666 --> 00:20:13,333
>> THE U.S. GOVERNMENT BEGAN

791
00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,466
STOCKPILING SMALLPOX VACCINE

792
00:20:15,533 --> 00:20:17,200
LAST YEAR AND HAS PLACED ORDERS

793
00:20:17,266 --> 00:20:19,966
FOR TENS OF MILLIONS MORE DOSES.

794
00:20:20,033 --> 00:20:21,400
>> WE HAVE ENOUGH MATERIAL THAT

795
00:20:21,466 --> 00:20:23,700
IF WE NEEDED TO, GOD FORBID, A

796
00:20:23,766 --> 00:20:25,733
CATASTROPHE OF A MASSIVE ATTACK,

797
00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:26,900
WE WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE A

798
00:20:26,966 --> 00:20:27,733
VACCINE FOR EVERYONE IN THE

799
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:28,966
COUNTRY.

800
00:20:29,033 --> 00:20:31,033
>> John: YEAH, THERE HE IS!

801
00:20:31,100 --> 00:20:32,366
ANTHONY FAUCI, THE FORREST GUMP

802
00:20:32,433 --> 00:20:35,366
OF CATASTROPHIC CONTAGION.

803
00:20:35,433 --> 00:20:36,533
[LAUGHTER]

804
00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,333
BUT THE POINT IS, THE GOVERNMENT

805
00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:39,466
VERY SMARTLY BUILT UP MASSIVE

806
00:20:39,533 --> 00:20:42,466
RESERVES OF SMALLPOX VACCINE.

807
00:20:42,533 --> 00:20:43,666
IT IS JUST ONE OF THE ONE WAYS

808
00:20:43,733 --> 00:20:44,266
THAT THE WAR ON TERROR MADE US

809
00:20:44,333 --> 00:20:47,766
SAFER.

810
00:20:47,833 --> 00:20:48,900
[LAUGHTER]

811
00:20:48,966 --> 00:20:49,733
BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THOSE HUGE

812
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:50,500
STOCKPILES WEREN'T AVAILABLE AT

813
00:20:50,566 --> 00:20:51,500
THE START OF THIS MONKEYPOX

814
00:20:51,566 --> 00:20:52,333
OUTBREAK, THANKS TO A NUMBER OF

815
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:53,933
KEY STRATEGIC ERRORS.

816
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,166
FOR A START, INCREDIBLY, WE LET

817
00:20:56,233 --> 00:20:58,566
20 MILLION DOSES EXPIRE.

818
00:20:58,633 --> 00:21:01,866
WE JUST... DID THAT.

819
00:21:01,933 --> 00:21:02,833
[LAUGHTER]

820
00:21:02,900 --> 00:21:03,900
WHICH SEEMS ESPECIALLY

821
00:21:03,966 --> 00:21:04,966
UNCONSCIONABLE GIVEN, AS I

822
00:21:05,033 --> 00:21:06,200
MENTIONED EARLIER, MULTIPLE

823
00:21:06,266 --> 00:21:07,300
AFRICAN COUNTRIES HAVE HAD

824
00:21:07,366 --> 00:21:08,700
OUTBREAKS OF MONKEYPOX FOR

825
00:21:08,766 --> 00:21:09,700
DECADES NOW, AND MIGHT'VE

826
00:21:09,766 --> 00:21:11,900
APPRECIATED A SHOT OR TWO.

827
00:21:11,966 --> 00:21:13,266
SHARING VACCINES WOULD'VE SERVED

828
00:21:13,333 --> 00:21:15,300
TWO PURPOSES: BASIC HUMAN

829
00:21:15,366 --> 00:21:17,366
DECENCY, BUT ALSO, ABJECT

830
00:21:17,433 --> 00:21:19,100
SELFISHNESS, IN THAT STOPPING

831
00:21:19,166 --> 00:21:20,300
OUTBREAKS OVER THERE MIGHT WELL

832
00:21:20,366 --> 00:21:21,766
HAVE PREVENTED THE CURRENT

833
00:21:21,833 --> 00:21:23,800
OUTBREAK OVER HERE.

834
00:21:23,866 --> 00:21:25,433
AND YET, FOR SOME REASON, WE LET

835
00:21:25,500 --> 00:21:27,000
THE VACCINE SIT UNUSED ON A

836
00:21:27,066 --> 00:21:29,366
SHELF IN OUR RESERVES LIKE

837
00:21:29,433 --> 00:21:31,633
AN EXPIRED CHOBANI, OR A

838
00:21:31,700 --> 00:21:32,566
$90 MILLION DOLLAR MOVIE ON HBO

839
00:21:32,633 --> 00:21:34,500
MAX.

840
00:21:34,566 --> 00:21:35,333
[LAUGHTER]

841
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:36,466
BY THE WAY -- HI THERE, NEW

842
00:21:36,533 --> 00:21:37,633
BUSINESS DADDY.

843
00:21:37,700 --> 00:21:38,300
SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE DOING A REALLY

844
00:21:38,366 --> 00:21:41,500
GREAT JOB!

845
00:21:41,566 --> 00:21:42,466
[LAUGHTER]

846
00:21:42,533 --> 00:21:43,933
I DO GET THE VAGUE SENSE YOU'RE

847
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:44,566
BURNING DOWN MY NETWORK FOR THE

848
00:21:44,633 --> 00:21:46,766
INSURANCE MONEY, BUT I'M SURE

849
00:21:46,833 --> 00:21:48,866
THAT'LL ALL PASS.

850
00:21:48,933 --> 00:21:50,766
[LAUGHTER]

851
00:21:50,833 --> 00:21:52,033
[APPLAUSE]

852
00:21:52,100 --> 00:21:53,266
SO, AT ONE TIME, WE HAD MORE

853
00:21:53,333 --> 00:21:53,966
THAN 20 MILLION VACCINES

854
00:21:54,033 --> 00:21:55,133
AVAILABLE.

855
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,800
BUT WHEN THIS OUTBREAK BEGAN, WE

856
00:21:57,866 --> 00:21:59,500
WERE DOWN TO JUST 2,400 USABLE

857
00:21:59,566 --> 00:22:01,400
DOSES, WHICH IS ENOUGH TO FULLY

858
00:22:01,466 --> 00:22:04,300
VACCINATE JUST 1,200 PEOPLE.

859
00:22:04,366 --> 00:22:05,433
NOW, WE DID HAVE 300,000 DOSES

860
00:22:05,500 --> 00:22:06,566
SITTING IN A WAREHOUSE IN

861
00:22:06,633 --> 00:22:08,033
DENMARK, BUT FOR SOME REASON,

862
00:22:08,100 --> 00:22:09,666
OFFICIALS WAITED WEEKS AS THE

863
00:22:09,733 --> 00:22:10,900
VIRUS SPREAD, BEFORE FINALLY

864
00:22:10,966 --> 00:22:11,500
DECIDING TO SHIP THEM TO THE

865
00:22:11,566 --> 00:22:13,300
U.S.

866
00:22:13,366 --> 00:22:14,600
AND THAT SEQUENCE OF BAD

867
00:22:14,666 --> 00:22:17,200
DECISIONS IS WHY WE'VE BEEN

868
00:22:17,266 --> 00:22:18,400
SEEING SCENES LIKE THESE.

869
00:22:18,466 --> 00:22:19,866
>> HUNDREDS LINED UP FOR THE

870
00:22:19,933 --> 00:22:21,200
MONKEYPOX VACCINE LAST WEEK AT

871
00:22:21,266 --> 00:22:22,266
THIS CLINIC IN MANHATTAN, BUT

872
00:22:22,333 --> 00:22:24,366
SUPPLIES QUICKLY RAN OUT.

873
00:22:24,433 --> 00:22:25,366
>> I CAME HERE FOR LIKE A FEW

874
00:22:25,433 --> 00:22:25,933
DAYS ALREADY BECAUSE I DON'T

875
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,566
HAVE APPOINTMENT.

876
00:22:27,633 --> 00:22:29,200
I WENT TO THE WEBSITE AND THE --

877
00:22:29,266 --> 00:22:30,966
THE WEBSITE CRASHED.

878
00:22:31,033 --> 00:22:32,366
>> BEEN TRYING TO GET A VACCINE

879
00:22:32,433 --> 00:22:33,033
FOR THE LAST ALMOST TWO AND A

880
00:22:33,100 --> 00:22:36,833
HALF, THREE WEEKS.

881
00:22:36,900 --> 00:22:37,600
TRIED AT MULTIPLE VACCINE

882
00:22:37,666 --> 00:22:38,200
CENTERS AND EVERYONE'S OUT OF

883
00:22:38,266 --> 00:22:39,900
VACCINES.

884
00:22:39,966 --> 00:22:41,500
SO HERE I AM.

885
00:22:41,566 --> 00:22:42,500
>> John: YEAH, VACCINES ARE

886
00:22:42,566 --> 00:22:43,133
APPARENTLY THE BEYONCE CONCERT

887
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:43,966
TICKETS OF HEALTHCARE.

888
00:22:44,033 --> 00:22:44,900
ANNOUNCED WITH LITTLE WARNING,

889
00:22:44,966 --> 00:22:45,800
GONE IN 30 MINUTES, AND WILL

890
00:22:45,866 --> 00:22:47,033
LIKELY HAVE YOU SCREAMING

891
00:22:47,100 --> 00:22:47,866
"YOU WON'T BREAK MY SOUL" AT THE

892
00:22:47,933 --> 00:22:51,166
TOP OF YOUR LUNGS.

893
00:22:51,233 --> 00:22:52,066
[LAUGHTER]

894
00:22:52,133 --> 00:22:52,866
SO, TESTS?

895
00:22:52,933 --> 00:22:54,066
HAMPERED BY RED TAPE.

896
00:22:54,133 --> 00:22:55,300
VACCINES?

897
00:22:55,366 --> 00:22:56,233
EXPIRED BY THE MILLIONS.

898
00:22:56,300 --> 00:22:57,366
AND FINALLY, THERE'S TREATMENTS.

899
00:22:57,433 --> 00:22:58,766
REMEMBER, MONKEYPOX CAN BE

900
00:22:58,833 --> 00:23:00,366
INCREDIBLY PAINFUL.

901
00:23:00,433 --> 00:23:01,600
AND THERE IS A DRUG THAT SHOWS

902
00:23:01,666 --> 00:23:02,133
PROMISE IN REDUCING THOSE

903
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,233
SYMPTOMS.

904
00:23:04,300 --> 00:23:05,533
BUT IT, TOO, IS WAY HARDER TO

905
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,566
GET THAN IT SHOULD BE.

906
00:23:07,633 --> 00:23:08,833
>> AN EXPERIMENTAL DRUG THAT

907
00:23:08,900 --> 00:23:10,333
COULD HELP SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE

908
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:11,800
MONKEYPOX IS AVAILABLE, BUT THE

909
00:23:11,866 --> 00:23:13,266
QUESTION IS, CAN THEY GET IT?

910
00:23:13,333 --> 00:23:15,566
>> THE MEDICATION IS CALLED

911
00:23:15,633 --> 00:23:18,033
TECOVIRIMAT, BRAND NAME TPOXX.

912
00:23:18,100 --> 00:23:20,400
THERE'S NO SHORTAGE OF TPOXX,

913
00:23:20,466 --> 00:23:21,433
BUT IT'S ONLY FDA APPROVED FOR

914
00:23:21,500 --> 00:23:23,366
SMALLPOX.

915
00:23:23,433 --> 00:23:24,366
FOR MONKEYPOX, IT'S STILL

916
00:23:24,433 --> 00:23:25,000
CONSIDERED AN INVESTIGATIONAL

917
00:23:25,066 --> 00:23:26,766
DRUG.

918
00:23:26,833 --> 00:23:28,466
THE CDC HAS LIFTED SOME

919
00:23:28,533 --> 00:23:29,833
REQUIREMENTS SO DOCTORS CAN

920
00:23:29,900 --> 00:23:32,233
PRESCRIBE IT UNDER SOMETHING

921
00:23:32,300 --> 00:23:33,400
CALLED EXPANDED ACCESS, BUT THAT

922
00:23:33,466 --> 00:23:34,566
INVOLVES HOURS OF FORMS AND

923
00:23:34,633 --> 00:23:36,233
EXTRA APPOINTMENTS.

924
00:23:36,300 --> 00:23:37,433
>> John: YEAH, AND EVEN IF YOU

925
00:23:37,500 --> 00:23:43,500
FOUND A DOCTOR WILLING TO DO ALL

926
00:23:43,566 --> 00:23:49,366
OF THAT, SOME PATIENTS ARE THEN

927
00:23:49,433 --> 00:23:50,266
FINDING THEMSELVES WAITING DAYS

928
00:23:50,333 --> 00:23:51,166
FOR SHIPMENTS OF THE DRUG TO

929
00:23:51,233 --> 00:23:51,933
ARRIVE FROM THE STRATEGIC

930
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:52,666
NATIONAL STOCKPILE.

931
00:23:52,733 --> 00:23:53,333
WHICH JUST ISN'T GREAT,

932
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:54,166
CONSIDERING, REMEMBER, THIS CAN

933
00:23:54,233 --> 00:23:55,333
FEEL LIKE SITTING ON SHARDS OF

934
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:55,800
GLASS.

935
00:23:55,866 --> 00:23:56,700
IT IS NOT A CONDITION YOU CAN

936
00:23:56,766 --> 00:23:57,533
JUST PUT OFF DEALING WITH FOR A

937
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:58,833
FEW DAYS, LIKE A COLD, OR A UTI

938
00:23:58,900 --> 00:24:00,200
IF YOU'RE SUPER TIRED.

939
00:24:00,266 --> 00:24:01,900
[LAUGHTER]

940
00:24:01,966 --> 00:24:03,633
BASICALLY, EVERY PART OF OUR

941
00:24:03,700 --> 00:24:04,633
EARLY RESPONSE TO THIS MADE

942
00:24:04,700 --> 00:24:05,300
THINGS HARDER THAN THEY NEEDED

943
00:24:05,366 --> 00:24:06,500
TO BE.

944
00:24:06,566 --> 00:24:08,133
AND I WILL SAY, THERE HAVE BEEN

945
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:09,533
SOME IMPROVEMENTS RECENTLY.

946
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:10,133
WE'VE SEEN SOME PROGRESS ON

947
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:11,866
TESTING.

948
00:24:11,933 --> 00:24:13,333
MORE VACCINES ARE FINALLY

949
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:14,266
COMING, WITH LARGE NUMBERS SET

950
00:24:14,333 --> 00:24:16,633
TO START ARRIVING IN OCTOBER.

951
00:24:16,700 --> 00:24:17,666
AND THE PAPERWORK FOR TPOXX HAS

952
00:24:17,733 --> 00:24:20,466
BEEN STREAMLINED SOMEWHAT.

953
00:24:20,533 --> 00:24:21,600
SO IF YOU THINK YOU NEED ANY OF

954
00:24:21,666 --> 00:24:23,600
THOSE, YOU SHOULD STILL,

955
00:24:23,666 --> 00:24:25,133
ABSOLUTELY, BE SEEKING THEM OUT.

956
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:30,100
BUT THE DELAYS WE'VE SEEN IN

957
00:24:30,166 --> 00:24:30,966
FIXING THESE PROBLEMS HAVE BEEN

958
00:24:31,033 --> 00:24:31,833
ABSOLUTELY MADDENING.

959
00:24:31,900 --> 00:24:32,600
AND IT HAS BEEN HARD NOT TO

960
00:24:32,666 --> 00:24:33,566
WONDER WHETHER THE LACK OF

961
00:24:33,633 --> 00:24:34,666
URGENCY HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH

962
00:24:34,733 --> 00:24:35,200
WHO'S BEEN GETTING HIT THE

963
00:24:35,266 --> 00:24:37,066
HARDEST.

964
00:24:37,133 --> 00:24:37,700
>> YOU KNOW, THIS IS OBVIOUSLY

965
00:24:37,766 --> 00:24:39,733
SPREADING.

966
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:40,300
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WARRANTS

967
00:24:40,366 --> 00:24:41,633
CONCERN.

968
00:24:41,700 --> 00:24:45,033
WHAT I DON'T WANT TO SEE FOR

969
00:24:45,100 --> 00:24:45,766
OUR COMMUNITY IS THE 1980s, HIV

970
00:24:45,833 --> 00:24:47,300
ALL OVER AGAIN.

971
00:24:47,366 --> 00:24:52,000
WHERE IT WASN'T TALKED ABOUT, IT

972
00:24:52,066 --> 00:24:57,433
WAS KNOWN THAT IT WAS OUT THERE

973
00:24:57,500 --> 00:25:01,333
BUT THERE WAS NO PRESSURE TO DO

974
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,166
ANYTHING ABOUT IT BECAUSE, "OH,

975
00:25:05,233 --> 00:25:05,766
IT'S JUST THE GAYS.

976
00:25:05,833 --> 00:25:07,300
IT'S FINE."

977
00:25:07,366 --> 00:25:08,133
>> John: RIGHT.

978
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:08,966
YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT IF

979
00:25:09,033 --> 00:25:09,800
MONKEYPOX WERE SPREADING THROUGH

980
00:25:09,866 --> 00:25:10,533
HETEROSEXUAL SEX, THINGS WOULD

981
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:11,366
BE DIFFERENT.

982
00:25:11,433 --> 00:25:12,266
BY NOW, YOU'D PROBABLY BE ABLE

983
00:25:12,333 --> 00:25:13,366
TO GET A FREE VAX WITH PURCHASE

984
00:25:13,433 --> 00:25:14,333
- AT EVERY J.
- CREW IN THE COUNTRY.

985
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:15,200
BECAUSE, LISTEN, IT IS NOT

986
00:25:15,266 --> 00:25:15,933
HOMOPHOBIC TO ACKNOWLEDGE WHO'S

987
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:16,700
CURRENTLY MOST AFFECTED, WHICH

988
00:25:16,766 --> 00:25:17,600
IS GAY AND BISEXUAL MEN, SEX

989
00:25:17,666 --> 00:25:18,366
WORKERS, AND PEOPLE WHO

990
00:25:18,433 --> 00:25:19,566
PARTICIPATE IN SEX WITH MULTIPLE

991
00:25:19,633 --> 00:25:20,933
PARTNERS.

992
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,300
WHAT IS HOMOPHOBIC IS WHEN YOU

993
00:25:22,366 --> 00:25:23,633
BLAME OR SHAME THE PEOPLE WHO

994
00:25:23,700 --> 00:25:24,600
ARE SUFFERING, OR WHEN YOU

995
00:25:24,666 --> 00:25:26,066
DECIDE YOU DON'T NEED TO CARE

996
00:25:26,133 --> 00:25:27,066
ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE YOU DON'T

997
00:25:27,133 --> 00:25:28,333
SEE THEIR LIVES AS VALUABLE OR

998
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:29,266
THEIR SUFFERING AS

999
00:25:29,333 --> 00:25:31,266
CONSEQUENTIAL.

1000
00:25:31,333 --> 00:25:33,066
AND THAT IS WHERE THERE ARE

1001
00:25:33,133 --> 00:25:34,466
STRONG ECHOES OF THE AIDS CRISIS

1002
00:25:34,533 --> 00:25:35,233
IN SOME OF THE DISCUSSION AROUND

1003
00:25:35,300 --> 00:25:37,000
MONKEYPOX.

1004
00:25:37,066 --> 00:25:38,366
JUST LISTEN TO MARJORIE TAYLOR

1005
00:25:38,433 --> 00:25:40,600
GREENE, ELECTED OFFICIAL AND

1006
00:25:40,666 --> 00:25:42,700
ONE-STAR UBER PASSENGER, WHO

1007
00:25:42,766 --> 00:25:44,433
DISMISSED IT LIKE THIS:

1008
00:25:44,500 --> 00:25:45,700
>> OF COURSE, MONKEYPOX IS A

1009
00:25:45,766 --> 00:25:46,266
THREAT TO SOME PEOPLE IN OUR

1010
00:25:46,333 --> 00:25:49,633
POPULATION.

1011
00:25:49,700 --> 00:25:51,200
BUT WE KNOW WHAT CAUSES IT AND

1012
00:25:51,266 --> 00:25:52,733
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH -- IT'S

1013
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:53,333
BASICALLY A SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED

1014
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,466
DISEASE.

1015
00:25:55,533 --> 00:25:57,033
SO IT'S NOT A THREAT TO MOST OF

1016
00:25:57,100 --> 00:25:59,500
THE POPULATION.

1017
00:25:59,566 --> 00:26:00,666
AND SO, IT'S NOT A GLOBAL

1018
00:26:00,733 --> 00:26:03,633
PANDEMIC, IT'S REALLY NOT.

1019
00:26:03,700 --> 00:26:05,700
AND PEOPLE JUST HAVE TO LAUGH AT

1020
00:26:05,766 --> 00:26:09,066
IT, MOCK IT, AND REJECT IT.

1021
00:26:09,133 --> 00:26:09,700
SO, I THINK IT'S -- IT'S ANOTHER

1022
00:26:09,766 --> 00:26:11,300
SCAM.

1023
00:26:11,366 --> 00:26:11,933
>> John: OKAY, OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S

1024
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:12,800
RIDICULOUS.

1025
00:26:12,866 --> 00:26:13,666
IF THE WAY TO GET RID OF

1026
00:26:13,733 --> 00:26:15,100
SOMETHING AWFUL WAS FOR PEOPLE

1027
00:26:15,166 --> 00:26:16,266
TO LAUGH AT IT AND MOCK IT, THAT

1028
00:26:16,333 --> 00:26:22,366
WOMAN CLEARLY WOULDN'T BE IN

1029
00:26:22,433 --> 00:26:22,966
CONGRESS AND YET, HERE WE ALL

1030
00:26:23,033 --> 00:26:26,066
ARE.

1031
00:26:26,133 --> 00:26:27,500
[APPLAUSE]

1032
00:26:27,566 --> 00:26:28,233
GREENE ALSO TWEETED, "IF

1033
00:26:28,300 --> 00:26:29,033
MONKEYPOX IS A SEXUALLY

1034
00:26:29,100 --> 00:26:30,200
TRANSMITTED DISEASE, WHY ARE

1035
00:26:30,266 --> 00:26:32,166
KIDS GETTING IT?" IN AN ACT OF

1036
00:26:32,233 --> 00:26:32,966
OBVIOUS DOG WHISTLE BIGOTRY,

1037
00:26:33,033 --> 00:26:33,766
SUGGESTING GAY PEOPLE ARE A

1038
00:26:33,833 --> 00:26:35,033
DANGER TO CHILDREN.

1039
00:26:35,100 --> 00:26:35,733
WHEN WHAT'S CLEARLY AN ACTUAL

1040
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,033
DANGER TO CHILDREN IS THE QANON

1041
00:26:37,100 --> 00:26:38,600
CONGRESSWOMAN WHO ONCE TWEETED

1042
00:26:38,666 --> 00:26:39,400
"THE KIDS AT UVALDE NEEDED

1043
00:26:39,466 --> 00:26:42,366
JR-15s"

1044
00:26:42,433 --> 00:26:44,133
AND I KNOW THERE'S A TEMPTATION,

1045
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:44,766
WHEN YOU SEE HOMOPHOBIA LIKE

1046
00:26:44,833 --> 00:26:47,966
THAT, TO PUSH BACK AND SAY,

1047
00:26:48,033 --> 00:26:49,500
"HEY!

1048
00:26:49,566 --> 00:26:50,833
IT'S NOT JUST GAY PEOPLE, ANYONE

1049
00:26:50,900 --> 00:26:51,566
CAN GET MONKEYPOX," WHICH IS

1050
00:26:51,633 --> 00:26:53,900
TRUE.

1051
00:26:53,966 --> 00:26:55,066
BUT IT'S ALSO TRUE THAT, WHILE

1052
00:26:55,133 --> 00:26:56,533
ANYONE CAN GET IT, RIGHT NOW,

1053
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:57,133
CERTAIN PEOPLE ARE GETTING IT

1054
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:58,800
MORE.

1055
00:26:58,866 --> 00:27:00,233
AND CRUCIALLY, THEY ARE THE ONES

1056
00:27:00,300 --> 00:27:02,000
WHO SHOULD BE RECEIVING THE

1057
00:27:02,066 --> 00:27:03,566
LION'S SHARE OF THE RESOURCES

1058
00:27:03,633 --> 00:27:05,333
RIGHT NOW, AND SPECIFIC,

1059
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,333
TARGETED PUBLIC-HEALTH GUIDANCE.

1060
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:08,733
AND THE MESSAGING HERE CAN

1061
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:09,366
ADMITTEDLY BE A BIT OF A

1062
00:27:09,433 --> 00:27:11,433
MINEFIELD.

1063
00:27:11,500 --> 00:27:12,833
THE QUEER COMMUNITY MAY BE

1064
00:27:12,900 --> 00:27:14,300
UNDERSTANDABLY RELUCTANT TO HEAR

1065
00:27:14,366 --> 00:27:15,933
SOME STRAIGHT PERSON LECTURING

1066
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,700
THEM ABOUT THEIR SEX LIVES,

1067
00:27:17,766 --> 00:27:19,366
ESPECIALLY WHEN THAT ADVICE,

1068
00:27:19,433 --> 00:27:20,866
HISTORICALLY, HAS SO OFTEN COME

1069
00:27:20,933 --> 00:27:22,100
WITH AN AIR OF DISAPPROVAL ABOUT

1070
00:27:22,166 --> 00:27:23,266
IT.

1071
00:27:23,333 --> 00:27:25,066
AND SOME, IN THIS CURRENT

1072
00:27:25,133 --> 00:27:26,566
CRISIS, HAVE BEEN TONE DEAF.

1073
00:27:26,633 --> 00:27:28,566
ONE PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIAL HERE

1074
00:27:28,633 --> 00:27:29,766
IN NEW YORK PUSHED FOR A MORE

1075
00:27:29,833 --> 00:27:31,566
ABSTINENCE-BASED APPROACH,

1076
00:27:31,633 --> 00:27:32,866
POSTING ON HIS WEBSITE, "IF WE

1077
00:27:32,933 --> 00:27:34,400
HAD AN OUTBREAK ASSOCIATED WITH

1078
00:27:34,466 --> 00:27:35,400
BOWLING, WOULD WE NOT WARN

1079
00:27:35,466 --> 00:27:37,966
PEOPLE TO STOP BOWLING?"

1080
00:27:38,033 --> 00:27:38,600
WHICH ISN'T A GREAT WAY TO PUT

1081
00:27:38,666 --> 00:27:40,333
IT.

1082
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:41,633
IN FACT, AN OPENLY GAY HEALTH

1083
00:27:41,700 --> 00:27:43,766
OFFICIAL RESPONDED BY TWEETING

1084
00:27:43,833 --> 00:27:45,166
"A WHITE STRAIGHT CIS MAN

1085
00:27:45,233 --> 00:27:47,233
COMPARING SEX TO BOWLING TELLS

1086
00:27:47,300 --> 00:27:50,200
ME SO MUCH ABOUT STRAIGHT SEX."

1087
00:27:50,266 --> 00:27:51,533
[LAUGHTER]

1088
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:52,733
WHICH, HONESTLY?

1089
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:53,966
THAT'S A FAIR HIT.

1090
00:27:54,033 --> 00:27:56,000
THAT'S A FAIR HIT, RIGHT THERE.

1091
00:27:56,066 --> 00:27:56,633
THE OFFICIAL WHO WROTE THAT

1092
00:27:56,700 --> 00:27:57,700
TWEET IS ACTUALLY NOW THE DEPUTY

1093
00:27:57,766 --> 00:27:58,833
COORDINATOR OF THE FEDERAL

1094
00:27:58,900 --> 00:28:00,133
MONKEYPOX RESPONSE, AND HE'S

1095
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:01,533
BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS WITH A

1096
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,066
REFRESHING FRANKNESS.

1097
00:28:03,133 --> 00:28:04,433
LIKE IN THIS OFFICIAL VIDEO,

1098
00:28:04,500 --> 00:28:06,200
WHERE HE WALKS THROUGH PRACTICAL

1099
00:28:06,266 --> 00:28:07,566
STEPS TO AVOID EXPOSURE, THEN

1100
00:28:07,633 --> 00:28:10,900
OFFERS THIS ADVICE TO PEOPLE WHO

1101
00:28:10,966 --> 00:28:11,633
THINK THEY, OR THEIR PARTNER,

1102
00:28:11,700 --> 00:28:12,866
MAY HAVE BEEN EXPOSED.

1103
00:28:12,933 --> 00:28:13,933
>> CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING WAYS

1104
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:14,500
TO REDUCE THE CHANCE OF

1105
00:28:14,566 --> 00:28:17,000
SPREADING THE VIRUS.

1106
00:28:17,066 --> 00:28:17,800
HAVE VIRTUAL SEX WITH NO

1107
00:28:17,866 --> 00:28:20,433
IN-PERSON CONTACT.

1108
00:28:20,500 --> 00:28:21,566
MASTURBATE TOGETHER AT A

1109
00:28:21,633 --> 00:28:22,866
DISTANCE WITHOUT TOUCHING EACH

1110
00:28:22,933 --> 00:28:23,933
OTHER AND WITHOUT TOUCHING ANY

1111
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,733
RASH OR SORES.

1112
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,166
REMEMBER TO WASH YOUR HANDS

1113
00:28:27,233 --> 00:28:29,033
WITH SOAP AND WATER AND

1114
00:28:29,100 --> 00:28:31,033
DISINFECT FETISH GEAR, SEX TOYS,

1115
00:28:31,100 --> 00:28:33,400
AND ANY FABRICS SUCH AS BEDDING,

1116
00:28:33,466 --> 00:28:34,133
TOWELS, CLOTHING AFTER HAVING

1117
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:35,900
SEX.

1118
00:28:35,966 --> 00:28:37,800
>> John: THAT'S GREAT!

1119
00:28:37,866 --> 00:28:38,700
THAT IS HONESTLY SOME OF THE

1120
00:28:38,766 --> 00:28:42,866
BEST COMMUNICATION OF PUBLIC

1121
00:28:42,933 --> 00:28:45,533
HEALTH GUIDANCE I'VE EVER SEEN.

1122
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:46,100
IT'S HELPFUL, SPECIFIC, AND

1123
00:28:46,166 --> 00:28:49,866
NON-JUDGMENTAL.

1124
00:28:49,933 --> 00:28:50,866
AND HONESTLY, IT'S PRETTY GOOD

1125
00:28:50,933 --> 00:28:51,733
ADVICE FOR EVERYONE.

1126
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:52,600
FAR MORE PEOPLE SHOULD BE

1127
00:28:52,666 --> 00:28:53,366
EXPLORING VIRTUAL SEX WITH NO

1128
00:28:53,433 --> 00:28:54,233
IN-PERSON CONTACT, JUST MAKE

1129
00:28:54,300 --> 00:28:54,800
SURE YOU AREN'T DOING IT IN

1130
00:28:54,866 --> 00:28:55,666
THE MIDDLE OF A WORK MEETING,

1131
00:28:55,733 --> 00:28:57,066
JEFFREY.

1132
00:28:57,133 --> 00:28:57,700
ALTHOUGH, THAT REALLY SHOULD NOT

1133
00:28:57,766 --> 00:29:01,766
BE THAT HARD.

1134
00:29:01,833 --> 00:29:02,333
AND IT IS NOT JUST THE

1135
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:03,366
GOVERNMENT.

1136
00:29:03,433 --> 00:29:04,233
COMMUNITY GROUPS HAVE BEEN

1137
00:29:04,300 --> 00:29:05,100
TRYING TO FRAME HEALTH ADVICE IN

1138
00:29:05,166 --> 00:29:08,533
A WAY THAT'S MUCH MORE

1139
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,666
SEX-POSITIVE, MAKING IT MORE

1140
00:29:10,733 --> 00:29:11,666
LIKELY TO BE WELL-RECEIVED.

1141
00:29:11,733 --> 00:29:12,266
LIKE THIS FLYER FROM AN L.A.

1142
00:29:12,333 --> 00:29:13,333
LGBT CENTER WITH THE VERY

1143
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:14,200
PRACTICAL TIP: "FORGET SLUTTY

1144
00:29:14,266 --> 00:29:15,033
SUMMER, HOLD OFF FOR ANAL

1145
00:29:15,100 --> 00:29:16,500
AUTUMN!

1146
00:29:16,566 --> 00:29:18,600
DO IT IN CIDER DONUT SEASON."

1147
00:29:18,666 --> 00:29:20,866
WHICH, AGAIN, IS EXCELLENT.

1148
00:29:20,933 --> 00:29:22,266
IT'S GOOD ADVICE FOR NOW, IT'S

1149
00:29:22,333 --> 00:29:23,566
GOOD ADVICE FOR THE FALL, AND

1150
00:29:23,633 --> 00:29:24,566
IT'S ALSO A PRETTY GOOD SLOGAN

1151
00:29:24,633 --> 00:29:27,800
FOR DUNKIN'.

1152
00:29:27,866 --> 00:29:29,233
[LAUGHTER]

1153
00:29:29,300 --> 00:29:30,666
AND WHILE GOOD MESSAGING IS

1154
00:29:30,733 --> 00:29:32,633
CERTAINLY WELCOME HERE, IT IS

1155
00:29:32,700 --> 00:29:33,666
DEPRESSING THAT WE HAVE TO RELY

1156
00:29:33,733 --> 00:29:35,200
SO HEAVILY ON IT IN THE FIRST

1157
00:29:35,266 --> 00:29:36,700
PLACE, GIVEN THE MANY SYSTEMIC

1158
00:29:36,766 --> 00:29:37,366
FAILURES THAT HAVE BROUGHT US TO

1159
00:29:37,433 --> 00:29:39,766
THIS POINT.

1160
00:29:39,833 --> 00:29:41,366
SO, WHAT CAN WE DO NOW?

1161
00:29:41,433 --> 00:29:42,866
WELL, IN THE SHORT TERM, THE

1162
00:29:42,933 --> 00:29:43,433
NEXT SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS ARE

1163
00:29:43,500 --> 00:29:44,933
GOING TO BE CRUCIAL.

1164
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,333
SO WE NEED TO BE RAMPING UP

1165
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,066
TESTING AND DATA COLLECTION, AND

1166
00:29:48,133 --> 00:29:49,333
GETTING VACCINES AND ANTIVIRALS

1167
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,300
TO THOSE WHO NEED THEM MOST.

1168
00:29:51,366 --> 00:29:52,866
WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE

1169
00:29:52,933 --> 00:29:54,133
QUARANTINING MORE LOGISTICALLY

1170
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:55,633
POSSIBLE FOR PEOPLE, BECAUSE

1171
00:29:55,700 --> 00:29:56,866
MONKEYPOX CAN REQUIRE AS LONG AS

1172
00:29:56,933 --> 00:29:59,166
FOUR WEEKS OF ISOLATION.

1173
00:29:59,233 --> 00:30:00,466
AND FOR MANY, THAT'S GOING TO BE

1174
00:30:00,533 --> 00:30:01,566
DIFFICULT TO MANAGE WITHOUT

1175
00:30:01,633 --> 00:30:04,133
EXTRA SUPPORT.

1176
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,566
BUT IN THE LONGER TERM, AS IF

1177
00:30:05,633 --> 00:30:07,733
COVID HAD NOT ALREADY MADE THIS

1178
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,800
ABUNDANTLY CLEAR, WE BADLY NEED

1179
00:30:09,866 --> 00:30:12,400
TO RESTRUCTURE OUR PUBLIC HEALTH

1180
00:30:12,466 --> 00:30:13,266
SYSTEM SO IT'S BETTER ABLE TO

1181
00:30:13,333 --> 00:30:15,366
RESPOND TO A VIRAL OUTBREAK.

1182
00:30:15,433 --> 00:30:16,000
AND I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE SAYING

1183
00:30:16,066 --> 00:30:17,133
THAT.

1184
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:17,733
JUST LISTEN TO NEW YORK CITY'S

1185
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:18,866
HEALTH COMMISSIONER.

1186
00:30:18,933 --> 00:30:20,600
>> IT IS FRUSTRATING.

1187
00:30:20,666 --> 00:30:22,733
WE HAD A VACCINE, WE HAD A

1188
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,100
TREATMENT, WE HAD A TEST.

1189
00:30:25,166 --> 00:30:27,433
AND ALL OF IT WAS KIND OF ROLLED

1190
00:30:27,500 --> 00:30:29,966
OUT MORE SLOWLY THAN WE WOULD

1191
00:30:30,033 --> 00:30:31,800
HAVE LIKED, BECAUSE OF THE FACT

1192
00:30:31,866 --> 00:30:33,366
THAT OUR PERMANENT PUBLIC HEALTH

1193
00:30:33,433 --> 00:30:34,366
INFRASTRUCTURE HAS NOT BEEN

1194
00:30:34,433 --> 00:30:36,433
INVESTED IN FOR DECADES.

1195
00:30:36,500 --> 00:30:37,566
>> John: YEAH, HE'S ABSOLUTELY

1196
00:30:37,633 --> 00:30:40,000
RIGHT, AND HE IS NOT ALONE.

1197
00:30:40,066 --> 00:30:41,166
AGAIN AND AGAIN, WHEN WE TALKED

1198
00:30:41,233 --> 00:30:41,966
TO PUBLIC HEALTH PROFESSIONALS

1199
00:30:42,033 --> 00:30:43,666
THIS WEEK, THERE HAS BEEN A

1200
00:30:43,733 --> 00:30:44,533
SENSE THAT THIS WAS A GIGANTIC

1201
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,733
FUCK UP.

1202
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:51,333
JAY VARMA, AN EPIDEMIOLOGIST WHO

1203
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:52,200
PREVIOUSLY WORKED AT THE CDC,

1204
00:30:52,266 --> 00:30:53,066
TOLD US THIS WAS A REAL, PERFECT

1205
00:30:53,133 --> 00:30:53,900
STRESS TEST FOR US.

1206
00:30:53,966 --> 00:30:54,633
IN THIS SITUATION, WE WERE

1207
00:30:54,700 --> 00:30:55,900
UNIQUELY PREPARED.

1208
00:30:55,966 --> 00:30:56,733
WE KIND OF HAD THE QUESTIONS

1209
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,433
AHEAD OF TIME.

1210
00:30:58,500 --> 00:31:01,266
WE'RE GOING TO THROW YOU A

1211
00:31:01,333 --> 00:31:01,866
VIRUS YOU ALREADY HAVE A TEST

1212
00:31:01,933 --> 00:31:02,666
FOR, ALREADY HAVE VACCINE FOR,

1213
00:31:02,733 --> 00:31:03,966
ALREADY HAVE A DRUG YOUR

1214
00:31:04,033 --> 00:31:05,100
GOVERNMENT PAID FOR AND

1215
00:31:05,166 --> 00:31:06,800
DEVELOPED AND DISCOVERED AND

1216
00:31:06,866 --> 00:31:07,733
STOCKPILED, LET'S SEE HOW YOU

1217
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,000
RESPOND TO THAT.

1218
00:31:10,066 --> 00:31:12,366
AND WE SCREWED IT UP.

1219
00:31:12,433 --> 00:31:14,166
WHICH IS HUMILIATINGLY BAD.

1220
00:31:14,233 --> 00:31:16,300
BASICALLY, ON A SCALE FROM

1221
00:31:16,366 --> 00:31:18,233
1-100, WE SCORED A "NO."

1222
00:31:18,300 --> 00:31:20,100
[LAUGHTER]

1223
00:31:20,166 --> 00:31:22,066
BUT THE THING IS, EVEN IF WE DO

1224
00:31:22,133 --> 00:31:23,466
CONTAIN THIS OUTBREAK, AND EVEN

1225
00:31:23,533 --> 00:31:25,533
IF WE BUILD UP OUR PUBLIC HEALTH

1226
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:26,333
INFRASTRUCTURE, THERE'S A BIGGER

1227
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,466
CONVERSATION WORTH HAVING HERE.

1228
00:31:28,533 --> 00:31:29,766
BECAUSE FOR FAR TOO LONG, WE'VE

1229
00:31:29,833 --> 00:31:31,766
INDULGED IN THE MAGICAL THINKING

1230
00:31:31,833 --> 00:31:33,533
THAT VIRUSES THAT EXIST

1231
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:34,633
SOMEWHERE ELSE, A, DON'T MATTER,

1232
00:31:34,700 --> 00:31:37,600
AND B, WILL STAY THERE.

1233
00:31:37,666 --> 00:31:39,800
AND MONKEYPOX IS SUCH A CLEAR

1234
00:31:39,866 --> 00:31:41,233
EXAMPLE OF HOW FLAWED AND RACIST

1235
00:31:41,300 --> 00:31:44,200
THAT THINKING IS.

1236
00:31:44,266 --> 00:31:45,733
WE HAD 20 MILLION DOSES OF A

1237
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,100
VACCINE THAT COULD'VE HELPED

1238
00:31:47,166 --> 00:31:49,366
COUNTRIES IN AFRICA THAT WERE

1239
00:31:49,433 --> 00:31:53,500
KNOWN TO BE HIGH-RISK FOR

1240
00:31:53,566 --> 00:31:54,166
OUTBREAKS, AND WE DIDN'T HELP

1241
00:31:54,233 --> 00:31:55,200
THEM.

1242
00:31:55,266 --> 00:31:55,766
AND WE'RE STILL NOT HELPING

1243
00:31:55,833 --> 00:31:56,866
THEM.

1244
00:31:56,933 --> 00:31:57,533
THE SUDDEN GLOBAL DEMAND FOR

1245
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,233
VACCINES MEANS THAT CURRENTLY,

1246
00:31:59,300 --> 00:32:00,366
ZERO DOSES ARE GOING TO NIGERIA

1247
00:32:00,433 --> 00:32:02,600
AND OTHER COUNTRIES IN AFRICA.

1248
00:32:02,666 --> 00:32:04,300
WHICH I KNOW SOUNDS AWFUL, BUT

1249
00:32:04,366 --> 00:32:05,666
TO BE FAIR, INDIFFERENCE TO

1250
00:32:05,733 --> 00:32:10,366
THOSE SUFFERING FROM POX-BASED

1251
00:32:10,433 --> 00:32:12,000
VIRUSES HAS BEEN THE STORY OF

1252
00:32:12,066 --> 00:32:14,066
AMERICA FROM DAY ONE.

1253
00:32:14,133 --> 00:32:15,566
AND I KNOW FIXING ALL OF THIS

1254
00:32:15,633 --> 00:32:16,200
MAY FEEL DAUNTING.

1255
00:32:16,266 --> 00:32:16,866
BUT WE'RE LIVING THROUGH THE

1256
00:32:16,933 --> 00:32:17,700
ALTERNATIVE RIGHT NOW, AND IT'S

1257
00:32:17,766 --> 00:32:20,300
NOT GREAT.

1258
00:32:20,366 --> 00:32:21,033
AND THINK OF IT THIS WAY, IF WE

1259
00:32:21,100 --> 00:32:21,933
CAN ACTUALLY GET OUR ACT

1260
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,666
TOGETHER, MAYBE FINALLY THIS

1261
00:32:23,733 --> 00:32:25,200
COUNTRY, AND INDEED THE WHOLE

1262
00:32:25,266 --> 00:32:26,466
WORLD, CAN HAVE THE ANAL AUTUMN

1263
00:32:26,533 --> 00:32:29,366
THAT WE'VE ALL BEEN PROMISED.

1264
00:32:29,433 --> 00:32:29,633
[LAUGHTER]

1265
00:32:29,700 --> 00:32:31,633
AND NOW THIS.

1266
00:32:31,700 --> 00:32:33,633
>> Announcer: AND NOW, WALTER

1267
00:32:33,700 --> 00:32:35,566
FROM BUTLER, INDIANA, HAS SOME

1268
00:32:35,633 --> 00:32:37,733
THOUGHTS ON MORTALITY.

1269
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,000
>> LET'S TALK TO WALTER WHO IS

1270
00:32:39,066 --> 00:32:40,733
CALLING FROM BUTLER, INDIANA.

1271
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,466
WALTER, GOOD MORNING.

1272
00:32:42,533 --> 00:32:43,366
>> GOOD MORNING, THANKS FOR

1273
00:32:43,433 --> 00:32:45,366
TAKING MY CALL.

1274
00:32:45,433 --> 00:32:46,666
I'M CONFUSED AND I DON'T MEAN TO

1275
00:32:46,733 --> 00:32:47,433
BE SNARKY BUT SO WHAT?

1276
00:32:47,500 --> 00:32:48,400
THEY DIE.

1277
00:32:48,466 --> 00:32:49,033
WHEN YOU'RE GONNA DIE, YOU'RE

1278
00:32:49,100 --> 00:32:50,633
GONNA DIE.

1279
00:32:50,700 --> 00:32:56,466
I HAVEN'T BEEN TO A DOCTOR

1280
00:32:56,533 --> 00:32:57,366
SINCE -- I'M 65, 41 YEARS.

1281
00:32:57,433 --> 00:32:58,266
I DON'T TAKE ANY VITAMINS, I

1282
00:32:58,333 --> 00:32:59,000
DON'T TRY TO EAT WELL, AND I DO

1283
00:32:59,066 --> 00:32:59,533
WHAT I WANT.

1284
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:00,400
WHEN YOU'RE GONNA GO, YOU'RE

1285
00:33:00,466 --> 00:33:01,366
GONNA GO.

1286
00:33:01,433 --> 00:33:02,233
I'VE NEVER TAKEN A MEDICATION IN

1287
00:33:02,300 --> 00:33:03,900
MY LIFE, I'VE NEVER TAKEN

1288
00:33:03,966 --> 00:33:11,633
ANYTHING EXCEPT A VITAMIN.

1289
00:33:11,700 --> 00:33:12,666
AND I GOT ALL SORTS OF HITCHES

1290
00:33:12,733 --> 00:33:13,333
AND PROBLEMS AND THIS AND THAT.

1291
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:14,166
I DON'T GO TO A DOCTOR, AND I

1292
00:33:14,233 --> 00:33:14,833
FEEL LIKE WHENEVER THE GOOD LORD

1293
00:33:14,900 --> 00:33:15,533
IS READY TO TAKE ME HOME, I'M

1294
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,566
GOING TO BE TAKEN HOME.

1295
00:33:18,633 --> 00:33:19,200
IN THE END, WE ALL DIE ANYWAY SO

1296
00:33:19,266 --> 00:33:19,800
WHAT DOES IT MATTER WHICH WAY

1297
00:33:19,866 --> 00:33:20,600
YOU GO?

1298
00:33:20,666 --> 00:33:21,400
JUST SHUT UP AND DEAL WITH LIFE

1299
00:33:21,466 --> 00:33:22,200
THE BEST YOU CAN.

1300
00:33:22,266 --> 00:33:23,100
MY FRIENDS AND I WOULD GET OUT

1301
00:33:23,166 --> 00:33:24,133
OF THE HOUSE EARLY IN THE

1302
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:25,000
MORNING, WE'D GET ON OUR

1303
00:33:25,066 --> 00:33:27,166
BICYCLES, AND WE'D PLAY

1304
00:33:27,233 --> 00:33:31,766
STICKBALL IN THE STREETS, AND IF

1305
00:33:31,833 --> 00:33:35,100
WE WANTED TO GO UP TO SEARS WE'D

1306
00:33:35,166 --> 00:33:35,700
ACTUALLY HANG ON THE BACK OF A

1307
00:33:35,766 --> 00:33:36,433
BUS AND DRIVE UP OVER --

1308
00:33:36,500 --> 00:33:37,433
>> DON'T DO THAT.

1309
00:33:37,500 --> 00:33:38,533
>> IT WAS JUST INSANE.

1310
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,666
NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE.

1311
00:33:40,733 --> 00:33:44,033
WHATEVER, THE MYSTERY OF LIFE.

1312
00:33:44,100 --> 00:33:45,333
WHAT'S MY END GAME?

1313
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:46,033
TO BE IN A NURSING HOME?

1314
00:33:46,100 --> 00:33:46,766
NOT KNOW WHAT I'M DOING, WITH

1315
00:33:46,833 --> 00:33:47,566
DROOL COMING OUT OF MY MOUTH,

1316
00:33:47,633 --> 00:33:48,366
AND EVERYONE AROUND ME IS DEAD?

1317
00:33:48,433 --> 00:33:49,266
NOT ON MY WATCH.

1318
00:33:49,333 --> 00:33:50,066
>> ALL RIGHT.

1319
00:33:50,133 --> 00:33:50,866
>> YOU DON'T WIN STAYING AROUND

1320
00:33:50,933 --> 00:33:52,366
LONGER.

1321
00:33:52,433 --> 00:33:52,966
EVERYBODY PASSES AWAY AND YOU

1322
00:33:53,033 --> 00:33:53,633
HAVE NOBODY TO CARE FOR YOU

1323
00:33:53,700 --> 00:33:56,100
ANYWAY.

1324
00:33:56,166 --> 00:33:57,133
I THINK YOU SHOULD JUST THROW

1325
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:58,066
OUT ALL YOUR MEDICATIONS, GET UP

1326
00:33:58,133 --> 00:33:59,033
EVERY DAY, THANK THE LORD FOR

1327
00:33:59,100 --> 00:34:04,433
THE DAY YOU HAVE.

1328
00:34:04,500 --> 00:34:05,133
WHEN YOU'RE GONNA GO, GO.

1329
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:05,700
NOTHING IS PROMISED TO YOU.

1330
00:34:05,766 --> 00:34:06,666
WHEN YOU WANT TO DIE, JUST DROP

1331
00:34:06,733 --> 00:34:10,100
DEAD.

1332
00:34:10,166 --> 00:34:11,100
[APPLAUSE]

1333
00:34:11,166 --> 00:34:12,166
>> JOHN: THAT'S OUR SHOW.

1334
00:34:12,233 --> 00:34:13,233
SEE YOU NEXT WEEK.

1335
00:34:13,300 --> 00:34:17,300
THANKS FOR WATCHING, GOOD NIGHT!

1336
00:34:17,366 --> 00:34:34,366
♪ ♪