1 00:00:04,637 --> 00:00:21,287 ♪ ♪ 2 00:00:21,354 --> 00:00:32,365 ♪ ♪ 3 00:00:32,432 --> 00:00:34,000 >> John: WELCOME, WELCOME, 4 00:00:34,067 --> 00:00:35,402 WELCOME TO "LAST WEEK TONIGHT!" 5 00:00:35,468 --> 00:00:36,603 I'M JOHN OLIVER, THANKS SO MUCH 6 00:00:36,669 --> 00:00:38,138 FOR JOINING US. 7 00:00:38,204 --> 00:00:39,773 WE'RE BACK, AND WE'VE MISSED A 8 00:00:39,839 --> 00:00:40,740 LOT, FROM STEVE BANNON BEING 9 00:00:40,807 --> 00:00:42,175 CHARGED WITH MONEY-LAUNDERING, 10 00:00:42,242 --> 00:00:43,276 TO PAKISTAN SUFFERING MASSIVE 11 00:00:43,343 --> 00:00:45,245 FLOODING, TO THE PRESIDENT OF 12 00:00:45,311 --> 00:00:46,312 CHILE, SPEAKING ON THE DAY HIS 13 00:00:46,379 --> 00:00:47,514 COUNTRY REJECTED A NEW 14 00:00:47,580 --> 00:00:49,349 CONSTITUTION, WHILE BEING 15 00:00:49,416 --> 00:00:49,916 UNDERMINED BY AN UNEXPECTED 16 00:00:49,983 --> 00:00:50,884 GUEST. 17 00:00:50,950 --> 00:00:53,153 >> THE ROLE THAT I WILL PLAY AS 18 00:00:53,219 --> 00:00:54,287 PRESIDENT OF THE REPUBLIC IN OUR 19 00:00:54,354 --> 00:00:55,889 GOVERNMENT, AND WHICH WE ARE 20 00:00:55,955 --> 00:00:57,490 GOING TO COMMIT OURSELVES 21 00:00:57,557 --> 00:00:59,592 TOGETHER WITH ALL OF YOU IS TO 22 00:00:59,659 --> 00:01:01,227 DEFINE OURSELVES AS A COUNTRY, 23 00:01:01,294 --> 00:01:02,595 TO ADVANCE JUSTICE AND EQUALITY, 24 00:01:02,662 --> 00:01:04,130 AND TO ADVANCE GREATER 25 00:01:04,197 --> 00:01:04,998 DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH FOR ALL 26 00:01:05,064 --> 00:01:06,466 OF US. 27 00:01:06,533 --> 00:01:07,734 AND KNOW THAT THIS HISTORIC 28 00:01:07,801 --> 00:01:08,435 MOMENT WILL SURELY REMAIN IN OUR 29 00:01:08,501 --> 00:01:10,603 MEMORIES FOR A LONG TIME TO 30 00:01:10,670 --> 00:01:11,504 COME. 31 00:01:11,571 --> 00:01:14,140 THEY'RE WATCHING US FROM ALL 32 00:01:14,207 --> 00:01:16,309 OVER THE WORLD. 33 00:01:16,376 --> 00:01:16,709 >> John: OH, YEAH! 34 00:01:16,776 --> 00:01:17,143 THEY SURE ARE! 35 00:01:17,210 --> 00:01:20,947 JUST MAYBE NOT FOR THE EXACT 36 00:01:21,014 --> 00:01:21,781 REASONS YOU WERE HOPING FOR. 37 00:01:21,848 --> 00:01:22,449 QUICK TIP FOR ANY WORLD LEADERS: 38 00:01:22,515 --> 00:01:23,049 IF YOU WANT PEOPLE TO FOCUS ON 39 00:01:23,116 --> 00:01:24,150 WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, TRY NOT TO 40 00:01:24,217 --> 00:01:25,985 SAY IT NEXT TO A BICYCLE-RIDING, 41 00:01:26,052 --> 00:01:26,920 FUN-SIZED SUPERMAN HAVING THE 42 00:01:26,986 --> 00:01:28,822 TIME OF HIS FUCKING LIFE. 43 00:01:28,888 --> 00:01:30,356 BUT WE OBVIOUSLY NEED TO START 44 00:01:30,423 --> 00:01:32,225 WITH THE UK, WHICH IS CLEARLY 45 00:01:32,292 --> 00:01:34,661 STILL REELING FROM THE SHOCKING 46 00:01:34,727 --> 00:01:36,162 DEATH OF A 96-YEAR-OLD WOMAN 47 00:01:36,229 --> 00:01:38,298 FROM NATURAL CAUSES. 48 00:01:38,364 --> 00:01:40,200 IT'S A BIG MOMENT, WHICH, FOR 49 00:01:40,266 --> 00:01:42,235 SOME REASON, ABSOLUTELY EVERYONE 50 00:01:42,302 --> 00:01:43,770 FELT THEY HAD TO WEIGH IN ON, 51 00:01:43,837 --> 00:01:48,608 FROM CRAZY FROG, WHICH TWEETED 52 00:01:48,675 --> 00:01:49,209 OUT "R.I.P. THE QUEEN, CANDLE 53 00:01:49,275 --> 00:01:49,709 EMOJI" -- A TWEET THAT'S 54 00:01:49,776 --> 00:01:52,412 IMPOSSIBLE TO READ WITHOUT 55 00:01:52,479 --> 00:01:53,947 MENTALLY ADDING -- TO DOMINO'S 56 00:01:54,013 --> 00:01:55,548 UK, WHICH POSTED "EVERYONE AT 57 00:01:55,615 --> 00:01:57,450 DOMINO'S JOINS THE NATION AND 58 00:01:57,517 --> 00:01:58,418 THE WORLD IN MOURNING THE DEATH 59 00:01:58,485 --> 00:02:00,153 OF QUEEN ELIZABETH II. 60 00:02:00,220 --> 00:02:01,421 OUR THOUGHTS AND CONDOLENCES ARE 61 00:02:01,488 --> 00:02:02,589 WITH THE ROYAL FAMILY." 62 00:02:02,655 --> 00:02:04,457 WHICH I GUESS IS NICE, ALTHOUGH 63 00:02:04,524 --> 00:02:06,626 IF "THE WORLD IS MOURNING," THEY 64 00:02:06,693 --> 00:02:08,361 SHOULD MAYBE TELL THE U.S. 65 00:02:08,428 --> 00:02:09,929 DOMINO'S ACCOUNT, WHOSE MOST 66 00:02:09,996 --> 00:02:11,464 RECENT TWEET, AS OF THIS TAPING, 67 00:02:11,531 --> 00:02:12,632 IS "IF UR READING THIS IT MEANS 68 00:02:12,699 --> 00:02:13,433 U NEED PIZZA. 69 00:02:13,500 --> 00:02:18,171 LIKE TO CONFIRM." 70 00:02:18,238 --> 00:02:20,673 GET YOUR FUCKING HOUSE IN ORDER, 71 00:02:20,740 --> 00:02:21,741 U.S. DOMINO'S, A LADY IS DEAD! 72 00:02:21,808 --> 00:02:23,576 BUT THE QUEEN'S DEATH IS NOT THE 73 00:02:23,643 --> 00:02:24,811 ONLY TRAUMATIC EVENT BRITAIN'S 74 00:02:24,878 --> 00:02:26,846 HAD TO DEAL WITH THIS WEEK. 75 00:02:26,913 --> 00:02:28,281 BECAUSE ON TUESDAY, LIZ TRUSS -- 76 00:02:28,348 --> 00:02:29,282 BASICALLY, MARGARET THATCHER IF 77 00:02:29,349 --> 00:02:31,017 SHE WERE HIGH ON GLUE -- BECAME 78 00:02:31,084 --> 00:02:32,151 ITS NEW PRIME MINISTER. 79 00:02:32,218 --> 00:02:33,887 YOU MAY REMEMBER, A FEW WEEKS 80 00:02:33,953 --> 00:02:35,421 AGO, WHEN COVERING THE BATTLE TO 81 00:02:35,488 --> 00:02:35,955 REPLACE BORIS JOHNSON, WE 82 00:02:36,022 --> 00:02:37,490 INTRODUCED YOU TO HER MOST 83 00:02:37,557 --> 00:02:39,425 ICONIC MOMENT: 84 00:02:39,492 --> 00:02:41,728 >> IN DECEMBER, I'LL BE IN 85 00:02:41,794 --> 00:02:42,428 BEIJING, OPENING UP NEW PORK 86 00:02:42,495 --> 00:02:48,234 MARKETS! 87 00:02:48,301 --> 00:02:48,735 [LAUGHTER] 88 00:02:48,801 --> 00:02:49,502 >> John: EXCELLENT. 89 00:02:49,569 --> 00:02:50,370 I GENUINELY DON'T THINK SHE 90 00:02:50,436 --> 00:02:51,871 COULD HAVE GOTTEN A MORE TEPID 91 00:02:51,938 --> 00:02:53,106 RESPONSE TO "I'LL BE OPENING UP 92 00:02:53,172 --> 00:02:54,374 NEW PORK MARKETS" IF THAT 93 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:55,508 AUDIENCE WAS LITERALLY FULL OF 94 00:02:55,575 --> 00:02:57,577 PIGS. 95 00:02:57,644 --> 00:02:59,112 AND IF YOU THINK SHE LEARNED 96 00:02:59,178 --> 00:02:59,879 ANYTHING AFTER THAT ABOUT THE 97 00:02:59,946 --> 00:03:01,047 DANGER OF HOLDING FOR APPLAUSE 98 00:03:01,114 --> 00:03:02,982 AFTER MAKING A LUDICROUS 99 00:03:03,049 --> 00:03:04,918 STATEMENT, JUST WATCH THE SPEECH 100 00:03:04,984 --> 00:03:06,519 SHE GAVE TO HER PARTY ON MONDAY, 101 00:03:06,586 --> 00:03:07,587 WHERE SHE TRIED TO PAY TRIBUTE 102 00:03:07,654 --> 00:03:10,256 TO HER PREDECESSOR. 103 00:03:10,323 --> 00:03:12,525 >> BORIS, YOU GOT BREXIT DONE. 104 00:03:12,592 --> 00:03:14,661 YOU CRUSHED JEREMY CORBYN. 105 00:03:14,727 --> 00:03:17,497 YOU ROLLED OUT THE VACCINE, AND 106 00:03:17,564 --> 00:03:21,334 YOU STOOD UP TO VLADIMIR PUTIN. 107 00:03:21,401 --> 00:03:22,468 YOU ARE ADMIRED FROM KIEV TO 108 00:03:22,535 --> 00:03:29,242 CARLISLE. 109 00:03:29,309 --> 00:03:29,509 [LAUGHTER] 110 00:03:29,576 --> 00:03:29,776 [APPLAUSE] 111 00:03:29,842 --> 00:03:30,310 >> John: OKAY, A COUPLE OF 112 00:03:30,376 --> 00:03:30,944 THINGS: FIRST, THE UK GOES ABOVE 113 00:03:31,010 --> 00:03:32,245 CARLISLE. 114 00:03:32,312 --> 00:03:33,580 SO THAT'S BASICALLY AN ADMISSION 115 00:03:33,646 --> 00:03:34,547 THAT EVERYONE NORTH OF THIS 116 00:03:34,614 --> 00:03:38,451 POINT FUCKING HATES BORIS. 117 00:03:38,518 --> 00:03:39,786 AND SECOND, PRAISING BORIS 118 00:03:39,852 --> 00:03:40,386 JOHNSON ISN'T HOW YOU GET AN 119 00:03:40,453 --> 00:03:41,454 AUDIENCE TO LOVE YOU. 120 00:03:41,521 --> 00:03:42,989 AS WE ALL KNOW, THE WAY TO DO 121 00:03:43,056 --> 00:03:44,924 THAT IS TO HAVE A CHILEAN CHILD 122 00:03:44,991 --> 00:03:46,492 SUPERMAN RIDE AROUND YOU. 123 00:03:46,559 --> 00:03:48,661 THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO DISTRACT 124 00:03:48,728 --> 00:03:50,530 PEOPLE FROM THE STUPIDITY OF 125 00:03:50,597 --> 00:03:51,898 WHAT YOU JUST SAID. 126 00:03:51,965 --> 00:03:53,333 LIZ TRUSS IS NOW FACING A 127 00:03:53,399 --> 00:03:55,068 MULTITUDE OF PROBLEMS, WITH THE 128 00:03:55,134 --> 00:03:55,868 MOST PRESSING BEING THE FACT 129 00:03:55,935 --> 00:03:56,936 THAT -- DUE TO FACTORS LIKE 130 00:03:57,003 --> 00:03:58,605 COVID AND RUSSIA'S WAR IN 131 00:03:58,671 --> 00:03:59,205 UKRAINE -- BRITISH HOUSEHOLDS 132 00:03:59,272 --> 00:04:01,074 FACE AN EIGHTY PERCENT INCREASE 133 00:04:01,140 --> 00:04:02,241 ON THEIR ENERGY BILLS STARTING 134 00:04:02,308 --> 00:04:03,776 NEXT MONTH. 135 00:04:03,843 --> 00:04:05,445 WHICH IS CLEARLY TERRIFYING -- 136 00:04:05,511 --> 00:04:06,913 AND SOMEHOW MADE EVEN GRIMMER BY 137 00:04:06,980 --> 00:04:08,147 HOW ONE DAYTIME SHOW TRIED TO 138 00:04:08,214 --> 00:04:10,350 DEAL WITH IT: 139 00:04:10,416 --> 00:04:11,317 >> HOW ARE YOUR ENERGY BILLS? 140 00:04:11,384 --> 00:04:11,918 ARE YOU A BIT WORRIED ABOUT IT 141 00:04:11,985 --> 00:04:13,486 ALL? 142 00:04:13,553 --> 00:04:16,589 >> MAJOR. 143 00:04:16,656 --> 00:04:17,223 I'VE GOT ONE OF THESE PREPAYMENT 144 00:04:17,290 --> 00:04:18,057 METERS AND IT'S ABSOLUTELY 145 00:04:18,124 --> 00:04:24,530 MURDER. 146 00:04:24,597 --> 00:04:24,897 >> OH GOD... 147 00:04:24,964 --> 00:04:25,732 >> WELL, LET'S HOPE IT LANDS ON 148 00:04:25,798 --> 00:04:26,132 ONE OF THOSE THEN. 149 00:04:26,199 --> 00:04:26,766 >> WHATEVER, YOU'RE GOING TO WIN 150 00:04:26,833 --> 00:04:27,433 SOME MONEY, SO DON'T WORRY, HERE 151 00:04:27,500 --> 00:04:27,634 WE GO. 152 00:04:27,700 --> 00:04:30,069 >> 1000 POUNDS OR ENERGY BILLS, 153 00:04:30,136 --> 00:04:30,637 1000 POUNDS OR ENERGY BILLS. 154 00:04:30,703 --> 00:04:37,176 IT IS GOING TO BE... 155 00:04:37,243 --> 00:04:39,145 IT'S YOUR ENERGY BILL! 156 00:04:39,212 --> 00:04:39,812 >> OH MY GOD. 157 00:04:39,879 --> 00:04:41,447 THANK YOU! 158 00:04:41,514 --> 00:04:43,016 >> WE ARE PAYING YOUR ENERGY 159 00:04:43,082 --> 00:04:44,717 BILL FOR FOUR MONTHS. 160 00:04:44,784 --> 00:04:46,753 >> OH FANTASTIC! 161 00:04:46,819 --> 00:04:47,620 >> NO WORRIES. 162 00:04:47,687 --> 00:04:51,024 >> John: WOW, THAT'S BLEAK. 163 00:04:51,090 --> 00:04:52,558 FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO AREN'T 164 00:04:52,625 --> 00:04:53,660 FAMILIAR WITH BRITISH TV, THAT'S 165 00:04:53,726 --> 00:04:55,795 FROM A PROGRAM CALLED "ORWELLIAN 166 00:04:55,862 --> 00:04:56,329 NIGHTMARE DOOM SPIRAL THIS 167 00:04:56,396 --> 00:04:57,897 MORNING." 168 00:04:57,964 --> 00:04:58,765 TRUSS HAS NOW PROPOSED LIMITING 169 00:04:58,831 --> 00:05:00,299 ENERGY PRICES, WHICH COULD 170 00:05:00,366 --> 00:05:01,267 REPORTEDLY COST THE GOVERNMENT 171 00:05:01,334 --> 00:05:02,368 MORE THAN A HUNDRED BILLION 172 00:05:02,435 --> 00:05:04,103 POUNDS. 173 00:05:04,170 --> 00:05:05,071 AND MANY HAVE SUGGESTED THAT, 174 00:05:05,138 --> 00:05:07,473 RATHER THAN PASSING THAT COST 175 00:05:07,540 --> 00:05:08,074 ALONG TO TAXPAYERS, SOME OF IT 176 00:05:08,141 --> 00:05:09,809 SHOULD BE RECOUPED THROUGH A NEW 177 00:05:09,876 --> 00:05:10,576 SO-CALLED "WINDFALL TAX" ON OIL 178 00:05:10,643 --> 00:05:12,045 AND GAS COMPANIES, WHO HAVE MADE 179 00:05:12,111 --> 00:05:13,246 HUGE PROFITS DURING THE PRICE 180 00:05:13,312 --> 00:05:13,780 SPIKE FOR DOING ABSOLUTELY 181 00:05:13,846 --> 00:05:14,514 NOTHING. 182 00:05:14,580 --> 00:05:15,982 BUT TRUSS HAS NO INTEREST IN 183 00:05:16,049 --> 00:05:17,517 DOING THAT. 184 00:05:17,583 --> 00:05:18,751 >> ONE THING I ABSOLUTELY DON'T 185 00:05:18,818 --> 00:05:23,956 SUPPORT IS A WINDFALL TAX. 186 00:05:24,023 --> 00:05:24,490 I THINK IT'S A LABOR IDEA. 187 00:05:24,557 --> 00:05:25,124 IT'S ALL ABOUT BASHING BUSINESS, 188 00:05:25,191 --> 00:05:26,859 AND IT SENDS THE WRONG MESSAGE 189 00:05:26,926 --> 00:05:27,593 TO INTERNATIONAL INVESTORS AND 190 00:05:27,660 --> 00:05:29,195 TO THE PUBLIC. 191 00:05:29,262 --> 00:05:30,630 I DON'T THINK PROFIT IS A DIRTY 192 00:05:30,697 --> 00:05:32,999 WORD AND THE FACT IT'S BECOME A 193 00:05:33,066 --> 00:05:34,634 DIRTY WORD IN OUR SOCIETY IS A 194 00:05:34,701 --> 00:05:36,335 MASSIVE PROBLEM BECAUSE THERE 195 00:05:36,402 --> 00:05:38,838 ARE, YOU KNOW, IN THIS AUDIENCE 196 00:05:38,905 --> 00:05:39,739 TODAY WE HAVE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE 197 00:05:39,806 --> 00:05:42,408 WHO RUN BUSINESSES AND MAKE A 198 00:05:42,475 --> 00:05:43,076 PROFIT AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD 199 00:05:43,142 --> 00:05:43,276 THING. 200 00:05:43,342 --> 00:05:44,777 >> John: WHAT ARE YOU TALKING 201 00:05:44,844 --> 00:05:46,012 ABOUT? 202 00:05:46,079 --> 00:05:47,914 I'M JUST GOING TO SAY IT -- AND 203 00:05:47,980 --> 00:05:48,781 YOU MAY NOT LIKE IT, BUT IT 204 00:05:48,848 --> 00:05:49,682 DOESN'T MAKE IT ANY LESS TRUE: 205 00:05:49,749 --> 00:05:51,217 THE NICEST THING THE QUEEN OF 206 00:05:51,284 --> 00:05:53,286 ENGLAND EVER DID FOR ANYONE WAS 207 00:05:53,352 --> 00:05:54,153 DIE THE WEEK THAT WOMAN BECAME 208 00:05:54,220 --> 00:05:55,388 PRIME MINISTER. 209 00:05:55,455 --> 00:05:56,789 BECAUSE FOR AT LEAST A WEEK, 210 00:05:56,856 --> 00:05:58,524 SHE'S NOT GOING TO BE GETTING 211 00:05:58,591 --> 00:06:00,093 JUSTIFIABLY DESTROYED FOR 212 00:06:00,159 --> 00:06:02,061 ANSWERS LIKE THAT. 213 00:06:02,128 --> 00:06:03,096 LOOK, THINGS ARE PRETTY BLEAK IN 214 00:06:03,162 --> 00:06:05,498 THE UK RIGHT NOW. 215 00:06:05,565 --> 00:06:07,500 THIS GUY'S ABOUT TO BE ON ALL 216 00:06:07,567 --> 00:06:09,502 THE MONEY, AND MORNING TV IS NOW 217 00:06:09,569 --> 00:06:10,903 BASICALLY THE HUNGER GAMES, BUT 218 00:06:10,970 --> 00:06:11,971 DON'T WORRY, BRITAIN -- YOUR 219 00:06:12,038 --> 00:06:13,506 FUTURE IS NOW SECURELY IN THE 220 00:06:13,573 --> 00:06:14,507 HANDS OF DOLLAR STORE BRITISH 221 00:06:14,574 --> 00:06:17,276 LESLIE KNOPE. 222 00:06:17,343 --> 00:06:17,910 EVERYTHING'S GOING TO BE FINE. 223 00:06:17,977 --> 00:06:22,982 "AND NOW THIS." 224 00:06:23,049 --> 00:06:23,950 >> Announcer: AND NOW, SEAN 225 00:06:24,016 --> 00:06:26,285 HANNITY DOES THE OPPOSITE FOR AN 226 00:06:26,352 --> 00:06:28,721 AD FOR WALMART. 227 00:06:28,788 --> 00:06:30,556 >> FOUR YEARS AGAINST 228 00:06:30,623 --> 00:06:31,991 PRESIDENT TRUMP AND WE THEY 229 00:06:32,058 --> 00:06:33,960 SMELLY WALMART SHOPPERS THAT 230 00:06:34,026 --> 00:06:34,260 SUPPORT HIM. 231 00:06:34,327 --> 00:06:37,029 THEY ALSO HATE WE'VE COME THE 232 00:06:37,096 --> 00:06:39,232 PEOPLE, WE SMELLY WALMART 233 00:06:39,298 --> 00:06:40,366 SHOPPERS. 234 00:06:40,433 --> 00:06:41,968 WE THE SMELLY WALMART SHOPPERS, 235 00:06:42,034 --> 00:06:42,568 IRREDEEMABLE DEPLORABLE IS NO 236 00:06:42,635 --> 00:06:46,139 BETTER THAT WE THE SMELLY 237 00:06:46,205 --> 00:06:47,039 WALMART. 238 00:06:47,106 --> 00:06:48,074 TRUMP VOTERS, SMELLY WALMART 239 00:06:48,141 --> 00:06:48,341 PEOPLE. 240 00:06:48,407 --> 00:06:50,443 WE JUST A BUNCH OF SMELLY 241 00:06:50,510 --> 00:06:52,445 WALMART VOTERS BUT WHAT DO WE 242 00:06:52,512 --> 00:06:52,645 KNOW? 243 00:06:52,712 --> 00:06:55,348 WE ARE SMELLY WALMART SHOPPERS. 244 00:06:55,414 --> 00:06:57,216 BY THE WAY, GUILTY, I GO TO 245 00:06:57,283 --> 00:06:58,584 WALMART. 246 00:06:58,651 --> 00:06:59,185 I LIKE TO CONFESS, I LIKE TO 247 00:06:59,252 --> 00:07:02,522 SHOP AT WALMART. 248 00:07:02,588 --> 00:07:03,589 SMELLY WALMART SHOPPER. 249 00:07:03,656 --> 00:07:06,826 I LIKE TO SHOP AT WALMART TOO. 250 00:07:06,893 --> 00:07:08,127 JOE BIDEN IS DOING EVERYTHING 251 00:07:08,194 --> 00:07:10,530 RIGHT AND EVERYBODY ELSE IS A 252 00:07:10,596 --> 00:07:11,397 BUNCH OF NAZIS AND FASCISTS AND 253 00:07:11,464 --> 00:07:14,967 JERKS THAT SUCK. 254 00:07:15,034 --> 00:07:15,635 WE SHOP AT WALMART. 255 00:07:15,701 --> 00:07:19,472 TURN AROUND AND TELL EVERYBODY 256 00:07:19,539 --> 00:07:21,541 SEAN HANNITY SAID THAT YOUR 257 00:07:21,607 --> 00:07:23,643 IRREDEEMABLE DEPLORABLE IS THAT 258 00:07:23,709 --> 00:07:24,610 SHOPS AT WALMART. 259 00:07:24,677 --> 00:07:26,913 >> SEAN HANNITY SAYS YOU'RE A 260 00:07:26,979 --> 00:07:28,548 SMELLY WALMART PEOPLE THAT ARE 261 00:07:28,614 --> 00:07:32,285 DEPLORABLE'S THAT LOVE GOD. 262 00:07:32,351 --> 00:07:35,321 THEY SAY THEY ARE PROUD OF IT, 263 00:07:35,388 --> 00:07:35,521 SEAN! 264 00:07:35,588 --> 00:07:36,355 ♪ ♪ 265 00:07:36,422 --> 00:07:38,124 [APPLAUSE] 266 00:07:38,191 --> 00:07:38,724 >> John: MOVING ON. 267 00:07:38,791 --> 00:07:39,292 FOR OUR MAIN STORY TONIGHT, 268 00:07:39,358 --> 00:07:39,892 WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING A 269 00:07:39,959 --> 00:07:40,793 LITTLE DIFFERENT, AND TALK ABOUT 270 00:07:40,860 --> 00:07:41,828 ANOTHER TV SHOW. 271 00:07:41,894 --> 00:07:43,563 SPECIFICALLY, "LAW & ORDER," THE 272 00:07:43,629 --> 00:07:44,831 WILDLY POPULAR FRANCHISE THAT'S 273 00:07:44,897 --> 00:07:46,265 BEEN ON TV FOR DECADES, TREATING 274 00:07:46,332 --> 00:07:47,466 US TO INCREDIBLE DIALOGUE LIKE 275 00:07:47,533 --> 00:07:49,302 THIS: 276 00:07:49,368 --> 00:07:50,736 >> DO YOU THINK THAT THERE WAS A 277 00:07:50,803 --> 00:07:51,737 REASON THAT THE KILLER SODOMIZED 278 00:07:51,804 --> 00:07:53,673 YOUR HUSBAND WITH A BANANA? 279 00:07:53,739 --> 00:07:56,342 >> John: NOW "THAT" IS ACTING. 280 00:07:56,409 --> 00:07:57,877 EVEN IF I WASN'T LISTENING TO 281 00:07:57,944 --> 00:07:58,511 THE WORDS COMING OUT OF MARISKA 282 00:07:58,578 --> 00:07:59,478 HARGITAY'S MOUTH, I'D KNOW, 283 00:07:59,545 --> 00:08:01,147 BASED ON HER DELIVERY ALONE, 284 00:08:01,214 --> 00:08:02,315 THAT THE KILLER HAD SODOMIZED 285 00:08:02,381 --> 00:08:03,149 THIS PERSON'S HUSBAND WITH A 286 00:08:03,216 --> 00:08:09,822 BANANA, AND THAT SHE WAS TRYING 287 00:08:09,889 --> 00:08:10,323 TO FIGURE OUT WHY. 288 00:08:10,389 --> 00:08:10,957 NOW, IT TURNS OUT, THE VICTIM'S 289 00:08:11,023 --> 00:08:11,524 WIFE ACTUALLY ANSWERED THAT 290 00:08:11,591 --> 00:08:11,791 QUESTION. 291 00:08:11,858 --> 00:08:12,358 AND THINK OF THE FUNNIEST 292 00:08:12,425 --> 00:08:12,859 POSSIBLE RESPONSE. 293 00:08:12,925 --> 00:08:13,926 YOU'RE WRONG, IT'S THIS. 294 00:08:13,993 --> 00:08:14,694 >> DO YOU THINK THAT THERE WAS A 295 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,262 REASON THAT THE KILLER SODOMIZED 296 00:08:16,329 --> 00:08:19,665 YOUR HUSBAND WITH A BANANA? 297 00:08:19,732 --> 00:08:21,968 >> HE WAS ALLERGIC TO BANANAS. 298 00:08:22,034 --> 00:08:24,270 >> John: EXCELLENT. 299 00:08:24,337 --> 00:08:26,172 I LOVE THE IDEA OF A KILLER 300 00:08:26,239 --> 00:08:27,874 ASKING, "BEFORE I MURDER AND 301 00:08:27,940 --> 00:08:29,308 SODOMIZE YOU, I'VE GOT JUST ONE 302 00:08:29,375 --> 00:08:31,344 QUESTION: DO YOU HAVE ANY 303 00:08:31,410 --> 00:08:33,179 ALLERGIES I SHOULD BE AWARE OF?" 304 00:08:33,246 --> 00:08:34,413 THAT EXCHANGE IS JUST ONE OF THE 305 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,082 REASONS WHY "LAW & ORDER" IS THE 306 00:08:36,148 --> 00:08:37,283 KING OF COP SHOWS. 307 00:08:37,350 --> 00:08:38,384 BETWEEN ALL ITS VARIOUS 308 00:08:38,451 --> 00:08:39,552 SPINOFFS, THERE ARE OVER 1,200 309 00:08:39,619 --> 00:08:41,487 EPISODES OF IT. 310 00:08:41,554 --> 00:08:42,154 IT'S BEEN AROUND FOR SO LONG, 311 00:08:42,221 --> 00:08:43,022 IT'S GENUINELY HARD TO THINK OF 312 00:08:43,089 --> 00:08:45,558 AN ACTOR WHO HASN'T APPEARED ON 313 00:08:45,625 --> 00:08:46,192 IT AT SOME POINT, BECAUSE IT'S 314 00:08:46,259 --> 00:08:46,893 FEATURED EVERYONE FROM 315 00:08:46,959 --> 00:08:48,594 CHEVY CHASE, TO 316 00:08:48,661 --> 00:08:50,162 SAMUEL L. JACKSON, TO 317 00:08:50,229 --> 00:08:52,431 PHILIP SEYMOUR HOFFMAN, TO 318 00:08:52,498 --> 00:08:54,700 ANGELA LANSBURY APPEARING WITH 319 00:08:54,767 --> 00:08:55,835 HER LAWYER, BRADLEY COOPER, TO 320 00:08:55,902 --> 00:08:56,969 ADAM DRIVER, WHO'S ON SEASON 13 321 00:08:57,036 --> 00:08:58,437 EPISODE 11 OF SVU, FOR 322 00:08:58,504 --> 00:09:00,506 APPROXIMATELY THREE MINUTES AND 323 00:09:00,573 --> 00:09:01,641 32 SECONDS OF SCREENTIME. 324 00:09:01,707 --> 00:09:02,308 IF YOU'RE THE KIND OF PERSON WHO 325 00:09:02,375 --> 00:09:04,810 COUNTS THAT SORT OF THING. 326 00:09:04,877 --> 00:09:06,112 EVEN POLITICIANS HAVE BEEN ON 327 00:09:06,178 --> 00:09:07,747 IT, LIKE RUDY GIULIANI, 328 00:09:07,813 --> 00:09:09,248 MIKE BLOOMBERG, AND JOE BIDEN, 329 00:09:09,315 --> 00:09:10,983 ALL OF WHOM GUEST-STARRED AS 330 00:09:11,050 --> 00:09:13,286 THEMSELVES. 331 00:09:13,352 --> 00:09:13,986 WHICH IS A LITTLE WEIRD. 332 00:09:14,053 --> 00:09:14,954 ALTHOUGH IT'D CLEARLY BE WEIRDER 333 00:09:15,021 --> 00:09:16,489 IF BIDEN APPEARED AS SOMEONE 334 00:09:16,555 --> 00:09:17,390 ELSE, LIKE A TIMES SQUARE 335 00:09:17,456 --> 00:09:19,358 NINJA TURTLE WHO STUMBLED ACROSS 336 00:09:19,425 --> 00:09:22,862 A GRISLY MURDER VICTIM SUFFERING 337 00:09:22,929 --> 00:09:23,963 FROM BANANAPHYLACTIC SHOCK. 338 00:09:24,030 --> 00:09:24,997 "LAW & ORDER" IS ON ALL THE 339 00:09:25,064 --> 00:09:27,033 TIME, AND FOR MANY, IT'S COMFORT 340 00:09:27,099 --> 00:09:27,833 TV. 341 00:09:27,900 --> 00:09:30,569 BUT IT, AND SHOWS LIKE IT, HAVE 342 00:09:30,636 --> 00:09:32,004 A REAL IMPACT -- ONE STUDY FOUND 343 00:09:32,071 --> 00:09:33,172 "VIEWERS OF CRIME DRAMAS ARE 344 00:09:33,239 --> 00:09:34,340 MORE LIKELY TO BELIEVE THE 345 00:09:34,407 --> 00:09:35,975 POLICE ARE SUCCESSFUL AT 346 00:09:36,042 --> 00:09:37,310 LOWERING CRIME, USE FORCE ONLY 347 00:09:37,376 --> 00:09:38,711 WHEN NECESSARY, AND THAT 348 00:09:38,778 --> 00:09:40,146 MISCONDUCT DOES NOT TYPICALLY 349 00:09:40,212 --> 00:09:42,181 LEAD TO FALSE CONFESSIONS." 350 00:09:42,248 --> 00:09:43,482 WHICH WOULD BE GREAT IF IT WERE 351 00:09:43,549 --> 00:09:44,750 TRUE, BUT IF YOU'RE WATCHING 352 00:09:44,817 --> 00:09:45,751 THIS SHOW, YOU PROBABLY KNOW... 353 00:09:45,818 --> 00:09:47,820 IT ISN'T. 354 00:09:47,887 --> 00:09:48,955 AND "LAW & ORDER" IN PARTICULAR 355 00:09:49,021 --> 00:09:50,022 HAS BECOME AN AMERICAN 356 00:09:50,089 --> 00:09:51,490 INSTITUTION, WITH HUGE CULTURAL 357 00:09:51,557 --> 00:09:53,059 INFLUENCE. 358 00:09:53,125 --> 00:09:54,393 SOME HAVE ARGUED ITS FORMULA 359 00:09:54,460 --> 00:09:55,194 SHAPED A GENERATION'S 360 00:09:55,261 --> 00:09:55,761 UNDERSTANDING OF THE LEGAL 361 00:09:55,828 --> 00:09:57,430 SYSTEM. 362 00:09:57,496 --> 00:09:59,332 AND YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN PEOPLE 363 00:09:59,398 --> 00:10:00,166 USING IT AS A GO-TO REFERENCE 364 00:10:00,232 --> 00:10:01,300 POINT, LIKE THIS: 365 00:10:01,367 --> 00:10:03,836 >> I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY, I WATCH 366 00:10:03,903 --> 00:10:04,904 "LAW & ORDER" FROM TIME TO TIME. 367 00:10:04,971 --> 00:10:07,606 >> MY LEGAL EXPERIENCE IS 368 00:10:07,673 --> 00:10:10,443 WATCHING "LAW & ORDER" AND "LAW 369 00:10:10,509 --> 00:10:10,776 & ORDER: SVU." 370 00:10:10,843 --> 00:10:11,444 >> I THINK THE AVERAGE VIEWER OF 371 00:10:11,510 --> 00:10:12,011 "LAW & ORDER" PROBABLY KNOWS 372 00:10:12,078 --> 00:10:12,645 THAT YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO DO 373 00:10:12,712 --> 00:10:12,845 THIS. 374 00:10:12,912 --> 00:10:13,813 >> WELL, I WENT TO A GREAT LAW 375 00:10:13,879 --> 00:10:14,547 SCHOOL, BUT MOST OF WHAT I DO ON 376 00:10:14,613 --> 00:10:16,282 A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS IS BASED OFF 377 00:10:16,349 --> 00:10:19,752 OF WHAT I LEARNED ON "LAW & 378 00:10:19,819 --> 00:10:20,419 ORDER." 379 00:10:20,486 --> 00:10:21,020 >> John: LOOK, I'M NOT SAYING 380 00:10:21,087 --> 00:10:21,620 THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN LEARN 381 00:10:21,687 --> 00:10:22,088 FROM "LAW & ORDER." 382 00:10:22,154 --> 00:10:23,622 I'VE LEARNED A TON FROM ICE-T'S 383 00:10:23,689 --> 00:10:25,491 TWITTER FEED ALONE, WHERE HE 384 00:10:25,558 --> 00:10:26,492 DROPS TRUTH BOMBS LIKE "A REAL 385 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:27,660 NUT... 386 00:10:27,727 --> 00:10:29,061 FEELS LIKE EVERY BONE IN YOUR 387 00:10:29,128 --> 00:10:29,695 BODY COMES OUT THE HEAD OF YOUR 388 00:10:29,762 --> 00:10:30,062 DICK... 389 00:10:30,129 --> 00:10:30,730 SAY NO MORE. 390 00:10:30,796 --> 00:10:31,564 I'M DONE. 391 00:10:31,630 --> 00:10:34,000 FALL ASLEEP IN 2 MINUTES." 392 00:10:34,066 --> 00:10:35,768 LOOK, THE MAN IS A TRUTH TELLER. 393 00:10:35,835 --> 00:10:36,702 IF YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE ICE, 394 00:10:36,769 --> 00:10:39,105 STAY OUT OF THE FREEZER. 395 00:10:39,171 --> 00:10:41,374 IT CAN BE GENUINELY ALARMING HOW 396 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:42,975 SERIOUSLY SOME PEOPLE TAKE THE 397 00:10:43,042 --> 00:10:44,577 SHOW -- IN FACT, JUST LISTEN TO 398 00:10:44,643 --> 00:10:45,344 WARREN LEIGHT, "LAW & ORDER: 399 00:10:45,411 --> 00:10:47,213 SVU"'S FORMER LONGTIME 400 00:10:47,279 --> 00:10:48,280 SHOWRUNNER, TALK ABOUT AN 401 00:10:48,347 --> 00:10:49,682 UNEXPECTED GROUP OF VIEWERS HE 402 00:10:49,749 --> 00:10:50,783 LEARNED ABOUT. 403 00:10:50,850 --> 00:10:52,018 >> WE'VE ALSO FOUND OUT OVER 404 00:10:52,084 --> 00:10:54,420 TIME, AND THIS IS A LITTLE 405 00:10:54,487 --> 00:10:56,922 ANXIETY-PROVOKING FOR ME, THAT A 406 00:10:56,989 --> 00:11:04,330 LOT OF COPS AREN'T TRAINED IN 407 00:11:04,397 --> 00:11:04,997 HOW TO -- HOW TO DO THEIR JOB IN 408 00:11:05,064 --> 00:11:05,631 CERTAIN CASES OF SEXUAL ASSAULT. 409 00:11:05,698 --> 00:11:06,232 AND A LOT OF COPS GET A LOT OF 410 00:11:06,298 --> 00:11:07,666 THEIR INFORMATION FROM WATCHING 411 00:11:07,733 --> 00:11:08,267 "SVU", WHICH, A LOT OF POLICE 412 00:11:08,334 --> 00:11:09,168 DEPARTMENTS DON'T HAVE THE TIME 413 00:11:09,235 --> 00:11:10,970 OR THE MONEY TO-TO PUT PEOPLE 414 00:11:11,037 --> 00:11:19,645 THROUGH FORMAL TRAINING. 415 00:11:19,712 --> 00:11:20,212 >> John: THAT'S NOT GREAT! 416 00:11:20,279 --> 00:11:20,846 NOBODY SHOULD BE LEARNING HOW TO 417 00:11:20,913 --> 00:11:21,447 DO THEIR JOB FROM A TV SHOW. 418 00:11:21,514 --> 00:11:22,014 UNLESS, OF COURSE, YOUR JOB 419 00:11:22,081 --> 00:11:22,648 HAPPENS TO BE "TELLING JOKES TO 420 00:11:22,715 --> 00:11:23,249 MASK YOUR DEEP-SEATED FEELINGS 421 00:11:23,315 --> 00:11:23,816 OF EMPTINESS AND EXISTENTIAL 422 00:11:23,883 --> 00:11:24,383 DREAD," IN WHICH CASE: KEEP 423 00:11:24,450 --> 00:11:24,650 WATCHING! 424 00:11:24,717 --> 00:11:26,318 YOU MIGHT PICK UP SOME TIPS! 425 00:11:26,385 --> 00:11:28,587 SO IF "LAW & ORDER" IS BEING 426 00:11:28,654 --> 00:11:29,922 CO-SIGNED BY ELECTED LEADERS, 427 00:11:29,989 --> 00:11:31,657 AND EVERYONE FROM TV PUNDITS TO 428 00:11:31,724 --> 00:11:33,025 ACTUAL COPS ARE USING IT TO 429 00:11:33,092 --> 00:11:34,593 LEARN ABOUT LAW ENFORCEMENT, WE 430 00:11:34,660 --> 00:11:35,928 THOUGHT TONIGHT, WE'D TAKE A 431 00:11:35,995 --> 00:11:37,463 LOOK AT WHAT THIS FRANCHISE HAS 432 00:11:37,530 --> 00:11:38,230 ACTUALLY BEEN TEACHING US. 433 00:11:38,297 --> 00:11:39,799 AND LET'S START WITH THE FACT 434 00:11:39,865 --> 00:11:41,133 THAT THE LINE BETWEEN COP SHOWS 435 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:42,234 AND ACTUAL COPS HAS ALWAYS BEEN 436 00:11:42,301 --> 00:11:45,771 A LITTLE BLURRY. 437 00:11:45,838 --> 00:11:48,340 IN FACT THE FIRST HIT COP SHOW, 438 00:11:48,407 --> 00:11:50,342 "DRAGNET," WHICH DEBUTED ON TV 439 00:11:50,409 --> 00:11:51,677 IN 1951, MADE A BIG SELLING 440 00:11:51,744 --> 00:11:54,146 POINT OF ITS AUTHENTICITY, RIGHT 441 00:11:54,213 --> 00:11:56,082 FROM THE START OF EACH EPISODE. 442 00:11:56,148 --> 00:11:56,849 >> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE 443 00:11:56,916 --> 00:11:57,550 STORY YOU ARE ABOUT TO SEE IS 444 00:11:57,616 --> 00:11:58,851 TRUE. 445 00:11:58,918 --> 00:11:59,552 THE NAMES HAVE BEEN CHANGED TO 446 00:11:59,618 --> 00:12:02,988 PROTECT THE INNOCENT. 447 00:12:03,055 --> 00:12:04,590 ♪ ♪ 448 00:12:04,657 --> 00:12:05,758 >> John: I GOTTA SAY, THE 449 00:12:05,825 --> 00:12:06,992 SURPRISING THING THERE IS THAT 450 00:12:07,059 --> 00:12:08,394 IT STARTS WITH "LADIES AND 451 00:12:08,461 --> 00:12:09,328 GENTLEMEN," AS THAT SOUNDS LIKE 452 00:12:09,395 --> 00:12:10,596 THE SORT OF VOICE THAT WOULD SAY 453 00:12:10,663 --> 00:12:11,897 "LETTING YOUR WIFE WATCH 454 00:12:11,964 --> 00:12:12,431 TELEVISION COULD GIVE HER 455 00:12:12,498 --> 00:12:14,567 NOTIONS." 456 00:12:14,633 --> 00:12:17,269 BUT THAT CLAIM OF VERISIMILITUDE 457 00:12:17,336 --> 00:12:19,205 CAME AT A PRICE -- DRAGNET'S 458 00:12:19,271 --> 00:12:20,172 STAR AND CREATOR, JACK WEBB, 459 00:12:20,239 --> 00:12:21,507 AGREED THAT SCRIPTS WOULD BE 460 00:12:21,574 --> 00:12:24,677 FORMALLY APPROVED BY THE LAPD'S 461 00:12:24,743 --> 00:12:25,744 PUBLIC INFORMATION DIVISION -- 462 00:12:25,811 --> 00:12:26,645 AND IN RETURN, THE SHOW COULD 463 00:12:26,712 --> 00:12:28,681 SHOOT WHEREVER THEY WANTED, HAVE 464 00:12:28,747 --> 00:12:29,815 COPS FOR EXTRAS, AND USE POLICE 465 00:12:29,882 --> 00:12:30,950 VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT. 466 00:12:31,016 --> 00:12:32,618 WHICH WAS A PRETTY GOOD DEAL FOR 467 00:12:32,685 --> 00:12:34,920 BOTH SIDES -- THE SHOW GOT A 468 00:12:34,987 --> 00:12:37,056 PATINA OF AUTHENTICITY, AND THE 469 00:12:37,123 --> 00:12:39,258 LAPD GOT A FLATTERING PORTRAYAL, 470 00:12:39,325 --> 00:12:41,427 WHICH IT FRANKLY NEEDED, GIVEN 471 00:12:41,494 --> 00:12:41,961 THAT, RIGHT AFTER DRAGNET 472 00:12:42,027 --> 00:12:43,963 PREMIERED, APPROXIMATELY FIFTY 473 00:12:44,029 --> 00:12:45,231 LAPD OFFICERS BRUTALLY BEAT 474 00:12:45,297 --> 00:12:46,732 SEVEN MEN IN THEIR CUSTODY FOR 475 00:12:46,799 --> 00:12:47,466 OVER AN HOUR, LEAVING THEM 476 00:12:47,533 --> 00:12:49,068 HOSPITALIZED WITH BROKEN BONES 477 00:12:49,135 --> 00:12:50,136 AND RUPTURED ORGANS -- IN AN 478 00:12:50,202 --> 00:12:51,570 INCIDENT THAT LATER BECOME KNOWN 479 00:12:51,637 --> 00:12:52,838 AS "BLOODY CHRISTMAS." 480 00:12:52,905 --> 00:12:55,040 SO IF DRAGNET REALLY WANTED TO 481 00:12:55,107 --> 00:12:57,576 BE AUTHENTIC, EVERY EPISODE 482 00:12:57,643 --> 00:12:58,711 SHOULD'VE PROBABLY STARTED LIKE 483 00:12:58,777 --> 00:12:58,911 THIS: 484 00:12:58,978 --> 00:12:59,545 >> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. 485 00:12:59,612 --> 00:13:01,080 THE STORY YOU ARE ABOUT TO SEE 486 00:13:01,147 --> 00:13:02,548 IS BULLSHIT. 487 00:13:02,615 --> 00:13:04,216 THE NAMES HAVE BEEN CHANGED TO 488 00:13:04,283 --> 00:13:05,618 PROTECT THE LAPD BECAUSE THEY 489 00:13:05,684 --> 00:13:06,852 HELPED SAVE US A BUNCH OF MONEY 490 00:13:06,919 --> 00:13:11,056 ON PROPS. 491 00:13:11,123 --> 00:13:11,824 ♪ ♪ 492 00:13:11,891 --> 00:13:14,193 >> John: DRAGNET HAD A BIG 493 00:13:14,260 --> 00:13:15,161 IMPACT ON VIEWERS AT THE TIME, 494 00:13:15,227 --> 00:13:16,996 INCLUDING ONE PARTICULAR LITTLE 495 00:13:17,062 --> 00:13:18,931 BOY, WHO LATER REMINISCED ABOUT 496 00:13:18,998 --> 00:13:19,965 BEING FIVE OR SIX YEARS OLD, AND 497 00:13:20,032 --> 00:13:21,100 ALLOWED TO STAY UP BECAUSE 498 00:13:21,167 --> 00:13:23,302 "DRAGNET" WAS ON. 499 00:13:23,369 --> 00:13:25,804 THAT BOY EVENTUALLY GREW UP TO 500 00:13:25,871 --> 00:13:27,940 BECOME SUCH A HOUSEHOLD NAME, 501 00:13:28,007 --> 00:13:28,741 SOMEONE ONCE DID THIS TO THEIR 502 00:13:28,807 --> 00:13:30,042 OWN BODY: 503 00:13:30,109 --> 00:13:31,477 >> HERE IT IS, THE WORDS, 504 00:13:31,544 --> 00:13:34,780 "EXECUTIVE PRODUCER: DICK WOLF." 505 00:13:34,847 --> 00:13:35,414 >> LOOK AT -- LOOK AT -- 506 00:13:35,481 --> 00:13:36,148 >> ON HIS LOWER BACK. 507 00:13:36,215 --> 00:13:37,116 >> YES, YEAH. 508 00:13:37,183 --> 00:13:38,017 >> THE MAN SAYS HE GOT IT 509 00:13:38,083 --> 00:13:38,651 BECAUSE HE'S OBSESSED WITH "LAW 510 00:13:38,717 --> 00:13:39,118 & ORDER." 511 00:13:39,185 --> 00:13:40,352 >> John: YEAH. 512 00:13:40,419 --> 00:13:42,621 A DICK WOLF TATTOO. 513 00:13:42,688 --> 00:13:43,556 THAT'S REAL STAR POWER, 514 00:13:43,622 --> 00:13:45,024 ESPECIALLY FOR AN EXECUTIVE 515 00:13:45,090 --> 00:13:45,658 PRODUCER. 516 00:13:45,724 --> 00:13:47,159 PERHAPS THAT'S WHY ICE-T HIMSELF 517 00:13:47,226 --> 00:13:49,795 ONCE SIMPLY TWEETED, 518 00:13:49,862 --> 00:13:50,963 "DICK WOLF," AND IT GOT 519 00:13:51,030 --> 00:13:52,865 108 LIKES. 520 00:13:52,932 --> 00:13:54,967 DICK WOLF IS ONE OF THOSE NAMES, 521 00:13:55,034 --> 00:13:55,935 LIKE "STEVE MADDEN" OR "CHARLES 522 00:13:56,001 --> 00:13:57,169 SCHWAB," THAT YOU SEE ALL THE 523 00:13:57,236 --> 00:13:59,605 TIME, EVEN IF YOU HAVE NO IDEA 524 00:13:59,672 --> 00:14:00,706 WHAT DICK WOLF HIMSELF ACTUALLY 525 00:14:00,773 --> 00:14:04,843 LOOKS LIKE. 526 00:14:04,910 --> 00:14:05,477 CASE IN POINT: THAT'S NOT DICK 527 00:14:05,544 --> 00:14:06,278 WOLF, THAT'S CHARLES SCHWAB -- 528 00:14:06,345 --> 00:14:07,746 THIS IS DICK WOLF. 529 00:14:07,813 --> 00:14:08,881 EXCEPT IT ISN'T, THAT'S STEVE 530 00:14:08,948 --> 00:14:10,249 MADDEN. 531 00:14:10,316 --> 00:14:11,917 THIS IS DICK WOLF. 532 00:14:11,984 --> 00:14:14,520 IS WHAT I WOULD SAY IF THAT WAS 533 00:14:14,587 --> 00:14:15,154 HIM, BUT IT'S JUST A STOCK IMAGE 534 00:14:15,221 --> 00:14:16,055 THAT CAME UP WHEN WE SEARCHED 535 00:14:16,121 --> 00:14:16,889 "BUSINESS GRANDPA." 536 00:14:16,956 --> 00:14:18,557 THIS, I PROMISE, IS THE REAL 537 00:14:18,624 --> 00:14:20,159 DICK WOLF. 538 00:14:20,226 --> 00:14:22,127 AND DICK WOLF WAS THE 539 00:14:22,194 --> 00:14:24,597 SIX-YEAR-OLD "DRAGNET" FAN WHO 540 00:14:24,663 --> 00:14:26,332 THEN GREW UP TO CREATE "LAW & 541 00:14:26,398 --> 00:14:27,032 ORDER." 542 00:14:27,099 --> 00:14:28,167 AND INTERESTINGLY, HE ACTUALLY 543 00:14:28,234 --> 00:14:29,635 STARTED OUT IN ADVERTISING, 544 00:14:29,702 --> 00:14:30,202 WHERE AMONG OTHER THINGS, HE 545 00:14:30,269 --> 00:14:33,038 HELPED CREATE THIS WILDLY SEXIST 546 00:14:33,105 --> 00:14:33,639 AD CAMPAIGN FOR NATIONAL 547 00:14:33,706 --> 00:14:35,341 AIRLINES. 548 00:14:35,407 --> 00:14:35,941 >> I'M JUDY, AND I WAS BORN TO 549 00:14:36,008 --> 00:14:38,444 FLY. 550 00:14:38,510 --> 00:14:41,313 FLY ME TO HOUSTON. 551 00:14:41,380 --> 00:14:43,716 NATIONAL HAS NONSTOP DC-10S 552 00:14:43,782 --> 00:14:44,883 EVERY DAY, OR FLY ME TO NEW 553 00:14:44,950 --> 00:14:46,218 ORLEANS ON THE ONLY DC-10S. 554 00:14:46,285 --> 00:14:47,653 YOU CAN FLY ME MORNING, 555 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:48,988 AFTERNOON, OR NIGHT. 556 00:14:49,054 --> 00:14:50,956 JUST SAY WHEN. 557 00:14:51,023 --> 00:14:54,293 I'M JUDY, AND I WAS BORN TO FLY. 558 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:55,227 FLY ME. 559 00:14:55,294 --> 00:14:55,961 >> FLY JUDY. 560 00:14:56,028 --> 00:14:57,963 FLY NATIONAL. 561 00:14:58,030 --> 00:15:00,199 >> John: HOLY SHIT. 562 00:15:00,266 --> 00:15:01,800 I CAN ONLY IMAGINE THE TARGET 563 00:15:01,867 --> 00:15:04,003 DEMO OF THAT WERE MEN AGED 564 00:15:04,069 --> 00:15:05,504 EIGHTEEN TO FORTY WHO LIVE BY 565 00:15:05,571 --> 00:15:06,972 THE MOTTO "CAN'T FUCK IT? 566 00:15:07,039 --> 00:15:07,806 DON'T WANT IT." 567 00:15:07,873 --> 00:15:10,643 THE WHOLE "FLY ME" CAMPAIGN WAS 568 00:15:10,709 --> 00:15:11,810 A BIG SUCCESS, AND DICK WOLF 569 00:15:11,877 --> 00:15:13,812 LATER BRAGGED ABOUT IT TO THE 570 00:15:13,879 --> 00:15:14,647 LEAST APPROPRIATE PERSON 571 00:15:14,713 --> 00:15:16,582 IMAGINABLE. 572 00:15:16,649 --> 00:15:17,483 >> YOU WERE IN ADVERTISING 573 00:15:17,549 --> 00:15:21,654 BEFORE AS A WRITER. 574 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:22,454 >> AS A WRITER-PRODUCER, I 575 00:15:22,521 --> 00:15:22,855 MADE COMMERCIALS. 576 00:15:22,921 --> 00:15:23,756 >> YOU MADE COMMERCIALS. WHAT 577 00:15:23,822 --> 00:15:24,356 WERE SOME OF THE COMMERCIALS? 578 00:15:24,423 --> 00:15:24,923 WOULD PEOPLE RECOGNIZE THESE 579 00:15:24,990 --> 00:15:25,357 COMMERCIALS TODAY? 580 00:15:25,424 --> 00:15:26,158 >> OH, SURE. 581 00:15:26,225 --> 00:15:27,493 "I'M CHERYL -- FLY ME." 582 00:15:27,559 --> 00:15:29,128 >> "I'M CHERYL -- FLY ME." 583 00:15:29,194 --> 00:15:31,530 HEY, HEY, THAT'S -- TODAY, 584 00:15:31,597 --> 00:15:32,031 THAT'S IMMEDIATE SEXUAL 585 00:15:32,097 --> 00:15:32,564 DISCRIMEN -- IT'S SEXUAL 586 00:15:32,631 --> 00:15:33,165 HARASSMENT, IT'S IMMEDIATELY 587 00:15:33,232 --> 00:15:33,632 GOING TO PRISON. 588 00:15:33,699 --> 00:15:35,000 >> [LAUGHS] 589 00:15:35,067 --> 00:15:35,567 THAT'S -- OH, NO, IT -- BUT 590 00:15:35,634 --> 00:15:36,101 INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH -- 591 00:15:36,168 --> 00:15:36,735 >> SEVEN YEARS. 592 00:15:36,802 --> 00:15:37,369 >> INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, I THINK 593 00:15:37,436 --> 00:15:38,203 I -- IT WAS AT THE TIME ONE OF 594 00:15:38,270 --> 00:15:38,771 THE MOST SUCCESSFUL AIRLINE 595 00:15:38,837 --> 00:15:39,505 CAMPAIGNS EVER 'CAUSE IT WAS 596 00:15:39,571 --> 00:15:41,140 AIMED AT THE -- 597 00:15:41,206 --> 00:15:41,874 >> I'M -- "I'M CHERYL -- FLY 598 00:15:41,940 --> 00:15:42,641 ME." 599 00:15:42,708 --> 00:15:44,143 >> IT WAS AIMED AT BUSINESSMEN, 600 00:15:44,209 --> 00:15:46,312 AND ALL THE STEWARDESSES WERE 601 00:15:46,378 --> 00:15:46,912 FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA 602 00:15:46,979 --> 00:15:47,379 AND WERE 22 YEARS OLD. 603 00:15:47,446 --> 00:15:47,880 THAT'S WHY THEY FLEW THE 604 00:15:47,946 --> 00:15:49,615 AIRLINE. 605 00:15:49,682 --> 00:15:50,015 >> OH, WOW. 606 00:15:50,082 --> 00:15:50,616 I'M SURPRISED THAT DIDN'T END 607 00:15:50,683 --> 00:15:51,483 YOUR CAREER. 608 00:15:51,550 --> 00:15:52,318 >> John: YEAH. 609 00:15:52,384 --> 00:15:53,319 IF YOU'VE OUT-MISOGYNIED ROGER 610 00:15:53,385 --> 00:15:54,687 AILES, THE MAN BEST KNOWN FOR 611 00:15:54,753 --> 00:15:57,890 SEXUALLY HARASSING SO HARD HE 612 00:15:57,956 --> 00:15:58,924 DIED, YOU KNOW YOU'VE MADE AN 613 00:15:58,991 --> 00:16:00,426 OUTRAGEOUSLY WRONG TURN. 614 00:16:00,492 --> 00:16:01,860 IT'S LIKE SOMEONE SAYING "YOU 615 00:16:01,927 --> 00:16:02,995 LOOK LOST" AND IT TURNING OUT 616 00:16:03,062 --> 00:16:05,564 THAT SOMEONE WAS AMELIA EARHART. 617 00:16:05,631 --> 00:16:08,834 YOU'RE IN BIG TROUBLE. 618 00:16:08,901 --> 00:16:10,436 AFTER LEAVING ADVERTISING, WOLF 619 00:16:10,502 --> 00:16:11,870 WORKED ON COP SHOWS LIKE "HILL 620 00:16:11,937 --> 00:16:14,807 STREET BLUES" AND "MIAMI VICE," 621 00:16:14,873 --> 00:16:15,441 AND IN 1990, HE HAD HIS MONSTER 622 00:16:15,507 --> 00:16:18,177 HIT, "LAW & ORDER," WHICH HE 623 00:16:18,243 --> 00:16:19,945 EVEN GAVE HIS OWN VERSION OF THE 624 00:16:20,012 --> 00:16:20,579 "DRAGNET" PREAMBLE, ONE THAT I'M 625 00:16:20,646 --> 00:16:21,580 GUESSING YOU CAN RECITE BY 626 00:16:21,647 --> 00:16:23,215 HEART. 627 00:16:23,282 --> 00:16:24,383 YOU KNOW HOW IT GOES: 628 00:16:24,450 --> 00:16:25,951 >> IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE 629 00:16:26,018 --> 00:16:27,052 SYSTEM, THE PEOPLE ARE 630 00:16:27,119 --> 00:16:28,721 REPRESENTED BY TWO SEPARATE YET 631 00:16:28,787 --> 00:16:30,122 EQUALLY IMPORTANT GROUPS. 632 00:16:30,189 --> 00:16:31,357 THE POLICE WHO INVESTIGATE CRIME 633 00:16:31,423 --> 00:16:32,691 AND THE DISTRICT ATTORNEYS WHO 634 00:16:32,758 --> 00:16:33,192 PROSECUTE THE OFFENDERS. 635 00:16:33,258 --> 00:16:36,495 THESE ARE THEIR STORIES. 636 00:16:36,562 --> 00:16:37,830 THESE ARE THEIR STORIES. 637 00:16:37,896 --> 00:16:40,699 DUN-DUN." 638 00:16:40,766 --> 00:16:41,233 NOW, THE "THESE ARE THEIR 639 00:16:41,300 --> 00:16:41,734 STORIES" PART IS REALLY 640 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:42,034 IMPORTANT. 641 00:16:42,101 --> 00:16:43,569 BECAUSE A BIG SELLING POINT FOR 642 00:16:43,635 --> 00:16:45,070 "LAW & ORDER" IS THAT, SIMILAR 643 00:16:45,137 --> 00:16:45,537 TO "DRAGNET," IT DRAWS 644 00:16:45,604 --> 00:16:46,505 INSPIRATION FROM REAL-LIFE 645 00:16:46,572 --> 00:16:49,441 CASES. 646 00:16:49,508 --> 00:16:50,676 IN FACT, AS WOLF RECOUNTS, WHEN 647 00:16:50,743 --> 00:16:51,143 THE NETWORK ASKED HIM, 648 00:16:51,210 --> 00:16:52,144 "WHAT'S THE BIBLE FOR THE SHOW?" 649 00:16:52,211 --> 00:16:52,778 HE SAID, "THE FRONT PAGE OF THE 650 00:16:52,845 --> 00:16:55,314 NEW YORK POST. 651 00:16:55,381 --> 00:16:56,815 NO WRITERS ARE GOING TO DO 652 00:16:56,882 --> 00:16:57,449 BETTER THAN HEADLESS BODY FOUND 653 00:16:57,516 --> 00:17:01,887 IN TOPLESS BAR." 654 00:17:01,954 --> 00:17:02,521 WHICH IS A CATCHY THING TO SAY, 655 00:17:02,588 --> 00:17:03,088 BUT I'M NOT SURE IT'S TRUE. 656 00:17:03,155 --> 00:17:03,722 "ASSLESS CORPSE FOUND AT 657 00:17:03,789 --> 00:17:04,156 BOTTOMLESS BRUNCH." 658 00:17:04,223 --> 00:17:06,792 THERE, I JUST DID IT. 659 00:17:06,859 --> 00:17:08,293 AND LIKE JACK WEBB IN LA, DICK 660 00:17:08,360 --> 00:17:09,495 WOLF CULTIVATED A CLOSE 661 00:17:09,561 --> 00:17:11,663 BEHIND-THE-SCENES RELATIONSHIP 662 00:17:11,730 --> 00:17:13,766 WITH THE NYPD, EMPLOYING FORMER 663 00:17:13,832 --> 00:17:14,867 OFFICERS AS CONSULTANTS, AND 664 00:17:14,933 --> 00:17:15,501 BOASTING ABOUT THE ACCESS HE 665 00:17:15,567 --> 00:17:16,568 HAD. 666 00:17:16,635 --> 00:17:18,137 >> I'VE PROBABLY SPENT MORE 667 00:17:18,203 --> 00:17:19,338 TIME-SPENT MORE TIME WITH COPS 668 00:17:19,405 --> 00:17:20,873 THAN ANYBODY WHO DOESN'T CARRY A 669 00:17:20,939 --> 00:17:21,340 BADGE. 670 00:17:21,407 --> 00:17:22,841 SO, I MEAN, WHEN YOU MEET 671 00:17:22,908 --> 00:17:25,077 PEOPLE, YOU MEET COPS, YOU MEET 672 00:17:25,144 --> 00:17:26,979 WHETHER IT'S BILL BRATTON OR RAY 673 00:17:27,045 --> 00:17:28,881 KELLY OR SHERIFF BACA, YOU KNOW, 674 00:17:28,947 --> 00:17:31,450 THERE IS A SHARED INTEREST IN 675 00:17:31,517 --> 00:17:34,219 PUTTING BAD GUYS AWAY AND HAVING 676 00:17:34,286 --> 00:17:35,954 COPS, YOU KNOW, SHOWN IN A 677 00:17:36,021 --> 00:17:37,523 DECENT LIGHT. 678 00:17:37,589 --> 00:17:38,157 I AM KIND OF UNABASHEDLY PRO LAW 679 00:17:38,223 --> 00:17:42,761 ENFORCEMENT. 680 00:17:42,828 --> 00:17:43,562 >> John: YIKES. 681 00:17:43,629 --> 00:17:44,029 DICK WOLF IS THE MOST 682 00:17:44,096 --> 00:17:45,330 ENTHUSIASTIC CHRONICLER OF BLUE 683 00:17:45,397 --> 00:17:48,600 LIVES SINCE JAMES CAMERON. 684 00:17:48,667 --> 00:17:50,803 AND WHILE NOT AS FORMAL AS 685 00:17:50,869 --> 00:17:51,970 "DRAGNET"'S ARRANGEMENT, "LAW & 686 00:17:52,037 --> 00:17:52,638 ORDER" HAS SIMILARLY BENEFITED 687 00:17:52,704 --> 00:17:53,238 FROM ITS RELATIONSHIP WITH THE 688 00:17:53,305 --> 00:17:55,507 NYPD. 689 00:17:55,574 --> 00:17:56,809 ONE WRITER WHO'S WORKED ON THE 690 00:17:56,875 --> 00:17:57,810 SHOW HAS SAID, "THERE WAS ALWAYS 691 00:17:57,876 --> 00:17:59,211 THE SENSE THAT IF WE TOLD 692 00:17:59,278 --> 00:18:00,479 STORIES THAT REFLECTED TOO BADLY 693 00:18:00,546 --> 00:18:03,215 ON THE POLICE, THE NYPD COULD 694 00:18:03,282 --> 00:18:04,416 MAKE IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO 695 00:18:04,483 --> 00:18:06,084 SHOOT IN NEW YORK." 696 00:18:06,151 --> 00:18:07,319 WHICH DOES MAKE SENSE. 697 00:18:07,386 --> 00:18:08,987 THE NYPD IS FAMOUSLY 698 00:18:09,054 --> 00:18:10,055 ANTI-SHOOTING UNLESS THEY'RE THE 699 00:18:10,122 --> 00:18:12,357 ONES DOING IT. 700 00:18:12,424 --> 00:18:13,759 IN FACT, FOR AS MUCH AS DICK 701 00:18:13,826 --> 00:18:14,827 WOLF BRAGS ABOUT HOW THE SHOW IS 702 00:18:14,893 --> 00:18:16,528 WRITTEN IN SHADES OF GREY, OR 703 00:18:16,595 --> 00:18:18,096 HOW IT'LL SHOW BOTH SIDES OF AN 704 00:18:18,163 --> 00:18:19,598 ISSUE, THERE'S ONE SIDE THAT 705 00:18:19,665 --> 00:18:20,833 IT'S ALWAYS ON, AND THAT'S THE 706 00:18:20,899 --> 00:18:22,468 POLICE. 707 00:18:22,534 --> 00:18:24,236 BECAUSE HOWEVER FLAWED HIS 708 00:18:24,303 --> 00:18:26,104 CHARACTERS MAY BE, THEY'RE ALL, 709 00:18:26,171 --> 00:18:26,738 FUNDAMENTALLY, PURSUING JUSTICE 710 00:18:26,805 --> 00:18:29,274 -- AND COPS LOVE BEING PORTRAYED 711 00:18:29,341 --> 00:18:30,375 THAT WAY, AS ACTORS ON THE SHOW 712 00:18:30,442 --> 00:18:32,578 HAVE ATTESTED OVER THE YEARS. 713 00:18:32,644 --> 00:18:33,479 >> POLICE AROUND THE COUNTRY, I 714 00:18:33,545 --> 00:18:34,680 MUST SAY, ARE BIG FANS OF THE 715 00:18:34,746 --> 00:18:35,681 SHOW BECAUSE THEY FEEL IT'S 716 00:18:35,747 --> 00:18:36,815 AUTHENTIC. 717 00:18:36,882 --> 00:18:38,350 >> A COUPLE HOMICIDE COPS CAME 718 00:18:38,417 --> 00:18:38,884 OVER TO VISIT. 719 00:18:38,951 --> 00:18:39,384 >> THEY JUST HAD WONDERFUL 720 00:18:39,451 --> 00:18:40,452 THINGS TO SAY ABOUT THE SHOW AND 721 00:18:40,519 --> 00:18:41,820 THEY SAID THANK YOU AND -- THEY 722 00:18:41,887 --> 00:18:42,721 WERE THANKING ME, WHICH WAS 723 00:18:42,788 --> 00:18:46,992 WEIRD. 724 00:18:47,059 --> 00:18:47,626 THEY FELT LIKE THEY WERE BEING 725 00:18:47,693 --> 00:18:49,528 WELL-REPRESENTED. 726 00:18:49,595 --> 00:18:50,629 >> WELL, MY FAVORITE QUOTE FROM 727 00:18:50,696 --> 00:18:51,497 THE POLICE IS, "KEEP MAKING US 728 00:18:51,563 --> 00:18:53,298 LOOK GOOD," WHICH IS A NICE 729 00:18:53,365 --> 00:18:53,599 COMPLIMENT. 730 00:18:53,665 --> 00:18:55,868 THEY'RE VERY, VERY KIND. 731 00:18:55,934 --> 00:18:58,704 >> John: YEAH, I BET THEY ARE! 732 00:18:58,770 --> 00:19:00,005 THOUGH, FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, 733 00:19:00,072 --> 00:19:02,174 THERE IS A PRETTY MAJOR 734 00:19:02,241 --> 00:19:02,774 DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "THEY FEEL 735 00:19:02,841 --> 00:19:03,375 IT'S AUTHENTIC" AND "THEY FEEL 736 00:19:03,442 --> 00:19:04,776 IT MAKES THEM LOOK GOOD." 737 00:19:04,843 --> 00:19:05,611 AND IT'S THE SAME DIFFERENCE 738 00:19:05,677 --> 00:19:07,346 BETWEEN THESE TWO PHOTOS. 739 00:19:07,412 --> 00:19:09,047 ONE IS A MIRROR OF REALITY, AND 740 00:19:09,114 --> 00:19:12,551 THE OTHER IS A LIE. 741 00:19:12,618 --> 00:19:14,386 AND LOOK, THANKS TO "LAW & 742 00:19:14,453 --> 00:19:15,153 ORDER"'S CLOSE COLLABORATION 743 00:19:15,220 --> 00:19:16,188 WITH ITS POLICE CONSULTANTS, THE 744 00:19:16,255 --> 00:19:19,558 SHOW DOES GET A LOT OF SMALLER 745 00:19:19,625 --> 00:19:20,459 DETAILS RIGHT -- LIKE SPECIFIC 746 00:19:20,526 --> 00:19:21,093 LAWS, JARGON, AND CRIME SCENE 747 00:19:21,159 --> 00:19:22,394 PROCEDURES. 748 00:19:22,461 --> 00:19:23,795 BUT CRUCIALLY, IT ALSO MAKES A 749 00:19:23,862 --> 00:19:25,430 LOT OF CHOICES THAT 750 00:19:25,497 --> 00:19:26,899 SIGNIFICANTLY DISTORT THE BIG 751 00:19:26,965 --> 00:19:30,569 PICTURE OF POLICING. 752 00:19:30,636 --> 00:19:31,136 FOR INSTANCE, MOST EPISODES 753 00:19:31,203 --> 00:19:31,770 ARREST THE RIGHT PERPETRATORS AT 754 00:19:31,837 --> 00:19:32,871 THE MIDPOINT, AND THEN CONVICT 755 00:19:32,938 --> 00:19:34,172 THEM AT THE END. 756 00:19:34,239 --> 00:19:35,841 AND IT'S STRUCTURED LIKE THIS 757 00:19:35,908 --> 00:19:37,042 FOR OBVIOUS REASONS -- IT'S A 758 00:19:37,109 --> 00:19:37,776 SELF-CONTAINED EPISODE OF TV, 759 00:19:37,843 --> 00:19:39,311 AND THOSE NEED SATISFYING 760 00:19:39,378 --> 00:19:42,514 NARRATIVE ARC FULFILLMENT. 761 00:19:42,581 --> 00:19:44,816 BUT IN REALITY, NOT ONLY DO MANY 762 00:19:44,883 --> 00:19:45,584 CASES SIMPLY GO UNSOLVED, ALMOST 763 00:19:45,651 --> 00:19:49,855 NONE OF THE ONES THAT DO GET 764 00:19:49,922 --> 00:19:50,289 SOLVED, GO TO TRIAL. 765 00:19:50,355 --> 00:19:51,089 PROSECUTORS PUT MASSIVE PRESSURE 766 00:19:51,156 --> 00:19:52,558 ON DEFENDANTS TO TAKE PLEA 767 00:19:52,624 --> 00:19:55,160 DEALS, MEANING THAT 97% OF 768 00:19:55,227 --> 00:19:56,161 CRIMINAL CASES DON'T GO TO 769 00:19:56,228 --> 00:19:58,030 TRIAL. 770 00:19:58,096 --> 00:19:59,998 AND OBVIOUSLY, "LAW & ORDER" 771 00:20:00,065 --> 00:20:01,833 CAN'T REFLECT THAT REALITY. 772 00:20:01,900 --> 00:20:02,701 IT'D BE UNWATCHABLE. 773 00:20:02,768 --> 00:20:06,471 NO ONE WANTS A SHOW WHERE 97% OF 774 00:20:06,538 --> 00:20:07,606 EPISODES END WITH TWO LAWYERS 775 00:20:07,673 --> 00:20:08,774 STRIKING A DEAL IN A WINDOWLESS 776 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,108 ROOM, AND THEN YOU GET TO WATCH 777 00:20:10,175 --> 00:20:12,044 THE DEFENDANT SERVE 6 MONTHS, 778 00:20:12,110 --> 00:20:13,845 THEN STRUGGLE TO GET A JOB AT 779 00:20:13,912 --> 00:20:16,648 THEIR LOCAL JIFFY LUBE. 780 00:20:16,715 --> 00:20:18,150 BUT THE COURTROOM HALF OF "LAW & 781 00:20:18,216 --> 00:20:18,951 ORDER" ACTUALLY REPRESENTS A 782 00:20:19,017 --> 00:20:20,018 SIGNIFICANT DEPARTURE FROM TV 783 00:20:20,085 --> 00:20:22,054 TRADITION. 784 00:20:22,120 --> 00:20:23,322 BECAUSE HISTORICALLY, LAWYER 785 00:20:23,388 --> 00:20:24,556 SHOWS CENTERED DEFENSE LAWYERS 786 00:20:24,623 --> 00:20:26,024 LIKE PERRY MASON, WHO TRIED TO 787 00:20:26,091 --> 00:20:27,459 WORK AGAINST THE SYSTEM AS THE 788 00:20:27,526 --> 00:20:29,328 UNDERDOG AND FREE INNOCENT 789 00:20:29,394 --> 00:20:30,228 PEOPLE. 790 00:20:30,295 --> 00:20:33,799 BUT "LAW & ORDER" IS DIFFERENT, 791 00:20:33,865 --> 00:20:34,433 AND THAT'S VERY MUCH BY DESIGN. 792 00:20:34,499 --> 00:20:35,067 DICK WOLF HAS SAID, "I BELIEVED 793 00:20:35,133 --> 00:20:36,335 THE HEROES WEREN'T THE DEFENSE 794 00:20:36,401 --> 00:20:37,669 ATTORNEYS WHO WERE GETTING THESE 795 00:20:37,736 --> 00:20:40,539 SCUMBAGS OFF, THE HEROES WERE 796 00:20:40,606 --> 00:20:41,807 THE PROSECUTORS." 797 00:20:41,873 --> 00:20:43,208 AND YOU CAN SEE THAT ON HIS 798 00:20:43,275 --> 00:20:44,643 SHOWS, WHERE DEFENSE ATTORNEYS 799 00:20:44,710 --> 00:20:45,344 ARE USUALLY PRESENTED AS AN 800 00:20:45,410 --> 00:20:48,146 IMPEDIMENT TO CONVICTING 801 00:20:48,213 --> 00:20:49,014 OBVIOUSLY-GUILTY SUSPECTS, AND 802 00:20:49,081 --> 00:20:51,249 THE TARGET OF LINES LIKE THIS: 803 00:20:51,316 --> 00:20:53,218 >> IF A COLD CHILL JUST RAN UP 804 00:20:53,285 --> 00:20:53,752 YOUR SPINE, IT'S BECAUSE A 805 00:20:53,819 --> 00:20:54,386 DEFENSE ATTORNEY JUST WALKED IN 806 00:20:54,453 --> 00:20:55,320 HERE. 807 00:20:55,387 --> 00:20:56,488 >> DEFENSE ATTORNEYS DISTORT THE 808 00:20:56,555 --> 00:20:56,955 FACTS. 809 00:20:57,022 --> 00:20:59,858 THEY TWIST EVIDENCE. 810 00:20:59,925 --> 00:21:01,126 >> I BELIEVE IN MONSTERS AND 811 00:21:01,193 --> 00:21:02,561 THINGS THAT GO BUMP IN THE 812 00:21:02,628 --> 00:21:04,696 NIGHT, JACK. 813 00:21:04,763 --> 00:21:06,965 MAY THEY ROT IN HELL, ALONG WITH 814 00:21:07,032 --> 00:21:08,133 THEIR ATTORNEYS. 815 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:09,101 >> OH, LET ME GUESS. 816 00:21:09,167 --> 00:21:09,868 THE DEVIL'S ERRAND BOY, 817 00:21:09,935 --> 00:21:11,436 OTHERWISE KNOWN AS A 818 00:21:11,503 --> 00:21:12,771 DEFENSE ATTORNEY? 819 00:21:12,838 --> 00:21:15,707 >> John: OKAY, COUPLE THINGS. 820 00:21:15,774 --> 00:21:16,341 ONE, YES, THAT IS A POST-O-C 821 00:21:16,408 --> 00:21:17,175 MISCHA BARTON DOING SOME 822 00:21:17,242 --> 00:21:19,077 AWARD-WORTHY EYEBROW ACTING. 823 00:21:19,144 --> 00:21:20,679 BUT TWO, DEFENSE ATTORNEYS ARE A 824 00:21:20,746 --> 00:21:22,180 VITAL PART OF THE JUSTICE 825 00:21:22,247 --> 00:21:23,448 SYSTEM, SO IT'S A BIT WEIRD THAT 826 00:21:23,515 --> 00:21:25,317 "LAW & ORDER" CAN SOMETIMES GO 827 00:21:25,384 --> 00:21:26,551 OUT OF ITS WAY TO PRESENT THEM 828 00:21:26,618 --> 00:21:28,053 LIKE THE BABADOOK. 829 00:21:28,120 --> 00:21:30,288 AND AGAIN, YOU CAN ABSOLUTELY 830 00:21:30,355 --> 00:21:32,057 JUSTIFY THOSE DECISIONS BY 831 00:21:32,124 --> 00:21:33,725 SAYING, "COME ON, THEY'RE MAKING 832 00:21:33,792 --> 00:21:35,160 FICTION, NOT A DOCUMENTARY. 833 00:21:35,227 --> 00:21:35,994 NOT EVERYONE WANTS TO WATCH 834 00:21:36,061 --> 00:21:39,831 HYPER-REALISTIC PORTRAYALS OF 835 00:21:39,898 --> 00:21:40,632 OUR EVER-DESSICATING SOCIETY, 836 00:21:40,699 --> 00:21:43,869 JOHN." 837 00:21:43,935 --> 00:21:44,703 AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT. 838 00:21:44,770 --> 00:21:45,504 BUT IT'S NOT JUST THE PORTRAYAL 839 00:21:45,570 --> 00:21:46,104 OF DEFENSE LAWYERS WHERE BIG 840 00:21:46,171 --> 00:21:46,738 EDITORIAL DECISIONS ARE BEING 841 00:21:46,805 --> 00:21:47,873 MADE. 842 00:21:47,939 --> 00:21:49,041 ONE STUDY FOUND THAT OFFENDERS 843 00:21:49,107 --> 00:21:50,509 ON "LAW & ORDER" WERE 844 00:21:50,575 --> 00:21:52,144 DISPROPORTIONATELY WHITE, MALE, 845 00:21:52,210 --> 00:21:52,811 OLDER, AND FROM THE MIDDLE OR 846 00:21:52,878 --> 00:21:54,579 UPPER CLASSES. 847 00:21:54,646 --> 00:21:55,914 DICK WOLF'S ACTUALLY EXPLAINED 848 00:21:55,981 --> 00:21:57,049 HIS REASONING FOR WHY THE SHOW'S 849 00:21:57,115 --> 00:21:58,417 CRIMINALS SKEW THAT WAY, SAYING, 850 00:21:58,483 --> 00:21:59,351 "THERE ARE NO RICH WHITE GUY 851 00:21:59,418 --> 00:22:00,786 PRESSURE GROUPS. 852 00:22:00,852 --> 00:22:02,054 YOU CAN DO ANYTHING YOU WANT TO 853 00:22:02,120 --> 00:22:02,654 RICH, WHITE GUYS, AND NOBODY 854 00:22:02,721 --> 00:22:04,589 CARES." 855 00:22:04,656 --> 00:22:06,658 AND YOU CAN SEE WHY HE MIGHT NOT 856 00:22:06,725 --> 00:22:08,226 WANT TO MAKE A SHOW IN WHICH HIS 857 00:22:08,293 --> 00:22:09,161 GOOD-GUY COPS ARE 858 00:22:09,227 --> 00:22:11,129 DISPROPORTIONATELY TARGETING 859 00:22:11,196 --> 00:22:13,131 COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. 860 00:22:13,198 --> 00:22:15,367 HE WANTS PEOPLE TO LIKE THEM. 861 00:22:15,434 --> 00:22:16,168 BUT THE RESULT OF ALL THESE 862 00:22:16,234 --> 00:22:17,369 CREATIVE DECISIONS IS THAT, 863 00:22:17,436 --> 00:22:20,939 INSTEAD OF DEPICTING A FLAWED 864 00:22:21,006 --> 00:22:21,540 SYSTEM RIDDLED WITH STRUCTURAL 865 00:22:21,606 --> 00:22:22,074 RACISM, THE SHOW PRESENTS 866 00:22:22,140 --> 00:22:23,275 EXCEPTIONALLY COMPETENT COPS, 867 00:22:23,341 --> 00:22:24,876 WORKING WITHIN A LARGELY FAIR 868 00:22:24,943 --> 00:22:25,844 FRAMEWORK THAT MOSTLY CONVICTS 869 00:22:25,911 --> 00:22:28,480 WHITE PEOPLE. 870 00:22:28,547 --> 00:22:29,214 AND WHILE IT'S TRUE THAT THEY'VE 871 00:22:29,281 --> 00:22:30,315 OCCASIONALLY DONE EPISODES 872 00:22:30,382 --> 00:22:32,517 FOCUSING ON INDIVIDUAL BAD COPS, 873 00:22:32,584 --> 00:22:33,251 OR REFERENCED REAL-WORLD 874 00:22:33,318 --> 00:22:33,785 CRITICISMS -- ESPECIALLY 875 00:22:33,852 --> 00:22:38,190 RECENTLY, WITH DISCUSSIONS OF 876 00:22:38,256 --> 00:22:38,757 ANTI-POLICE SENTIMENT BEING 877 00:22:38,824 --> 00:22:40,592 SHOEHORNED INTO CONVERSATIONS -- 878 00:22:40,659 --> 00:22:41,893 IN GENERAL, POLICE REFORMS ARE 879 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:43,328 OFTEN PORTRAYED BY THE MAIN 880 00:22:43,395 --> 00:22:45,430 CHARACTERS AS AT BEST A NUISANCE 881 00:22:45,497 --> 00:22:46,798 TO THEM, AND AT WORST A THREAT 882 00:22:46,865 --> 00:22:48,600 TO PUBLIC SAFETY. 883 00:22:48,667 --> 00:22:49,568 >> 16 MURDERS OVER FOURTH OF 884 00:22:49,634 --> 00:22:51,336 JULY. 885 00:22:51,403 --> 00:22:52,871 >> THEY CUT BACK ON THE STOP AND 886 00:22:52,938 --> 00:22:54,306 SEARCHES, PEOPLE START CARRYING. 887 00:22:54,372 --> 00:22:54,906 >> YOU TWO HAD HIM YESTERDAY, 888 00:22:54,973 --> 00:22:56,074 AND YOU LET HIM GO? 889 00:22:56,141 --> 00:22:56,708 >> THERE WASN'T PROBABLE CAUSE 890 00:22:56,775 --> 00:22:57,709 FOR AN ARREST. 891 00:22:57,776 --> 00:22:58,877 >> YOU CREATE PROBABLE CAUSE. 892 00:22:58,944 --> 00:22:59,711 YOU PUSH HIM AROUND, YOU PROVOKE 893 00:22:59,778 --> 00:23:01,480 HIM! 894 00:23:01,546 --> 00:23:03,115 >> AFTER ERIC GARNER AND THE 895 00:23:03,181 --> 00:23:03,815 STOP-AND-FRISK LAWSUITS, 1PP'S 896 00:23:03,882 --> 00:23:05,283 BEEN VERY CLEAR. 897 00:23:05,350 --> 00:23:06,251 DON'T MAKE A SCENE. 898 00:23:06,318 --> 00:23:09,221 >> LIKE IT OR NOT, NOLAN, THE 899 00:23:09,287 --> 00:23:11,556 BIG BAD POLICE DEPARTMENT IS OUR 900 00:23:11,623 --> 00:23:11,923 PARTNER. 901 00:23:11,990 --> 00:23:14,259 AND IN CASE YOU HAVEN'T BEEN 902 00:23:14,326 --> 00:23:14,893 PAYING ATTENTION, THEY'RE UNDER 903 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:15,360 ATTACK. 904 00:23:15,427 --> 00:23:16,661 EVERY DECISION, EVERY ARREST IS 905 00:23:16,728 --> 00:23:18,396 SCRUTINIZED. 906 00:23:18,463 --> 00:23:19,898 THERE ARE PEOPLE TRYING TO 907 00:23:19,965 --> 00:23:21,733 DEFUND THEM, FOR GOD'S SAKE. 908 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,502 AND HERE YOU ARE, ASKING ME TO 909 00:23:23,568 --> 00:23:24,770 CASTRATE THEM? 910 00:23:24,836 --> 00:23:26,838 >> John: OH, NO! 911 00:23:26,905 --> 00:23:33,011 SCRUTINIZING ARRESTS?! 912 00:23:33,078 --> 00:23:33,311 HOW AWFUL! 913 00:23:33,378 --> 00:23:33,912 IT'S PRETTY TELLING THAT, EVEN 914 00:23:33,979 --> 00:23:34,780 IN THIS FICTIONAL UNIVERSE, 915 00:23:34,846 --> 00:23:35,647 BASIC POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY IS 916 00:23:35,714 --> 00:23:36,214 TREATED AS AN EQUIVALENT TO 917 00:23:36,281 --> 00:23:38,650 GETTING YOUR BALLS CUT OFF. 918 00:23:38,717 --> 00:23:39,384 BUT MAYBE THE BEST EXPRESSION OF 919 00:23:39,451 --> 00:23:42,687 THE DISPARITY BETWEEN "LAW & 920 00:23:42,754 --> 00:23:43,288 ORDER" AND REAL LIFE IS IN ITS 921 00:23:43,355 --> 00:23:45,690 MOST POPULAR SPINOFF, "SVU." 922 00:23:45,757 --> 00:23:47,259 IT'S A SHOW BUILT ON THE APPEAL 923 00:23:47,325 --> 00:23:48,894 OF HAVING COPS WHO'LL STOP AT 924 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,429 NOTHING TO CRACK HORRIFIC CASES. 925 00:23:51,496 --> 00:23:52,831 COPS LIKE ELLIOTT STABLER, 926 00:23:52,898 --> 00:23:54,299 WHO -- BEFORE GETTING A SPINOFF 927 00:23:54,366 --> 00:23:55,066 SHOW -- ROUTINELY DID SHIT LIKE 928 00:23:55,133 --> 00:23:56,768 THIS: 929 00:23:56,835 --> 00:23:58,236 >> SORRY TO KEEP YOU WAITING. 930 00:23:58,303 --> 00:23:59,638 >> HEY! 931 00:23:59,704 --> 00:24:00,272 >> I GET A LITTLE CLUMSY AROUND 932 00:24:00,338 --> 00:24:02,340 SCUMBAG PEDOPHILES. 933 00:24:02,407 --> 00:24:03,108 >> WHY YOU GOT TO BE SO ROUGH? 934 00:24:03,175 --> 00:24:03,675 >> BECAUSE YOU STILL GOT ONE 935 00:24:03,742 --> 00:24:05,644 GOOD ARM LEFT TO BREAK. 936 00:24:05,710 --> 00:24:06,511 I SHOULD PUT YOU IN PIGTAILS, 937 00:24:06,578 --> 00:24:07,445 YOU LITTLE BITCH. 938 00:24:07,512 --> 00:24:08,013 COME ON, YOU LITTLE BITCH, I 939 00:24:08,079 --> 00:24:09,314 WANT YOU TO CRY FOR ME. 940 00:24:09,381 --> 00:24:10,282 COME ON, TELL ME! 941 00:24:10,348 --> 00:24:12,150 COME ON! 942 00:24:12,217 --> 00:24:13,285 CRY FOR ME! 943 00:24:13,351 --> 00:24:13,885 >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL 944 00:24:13,952 --> 00:24:16,788 YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. 945 00:24:16,855 --> 00:24:17,823 >> DO YOU THINK I AM SOME DUMB 946 00:24:17,889 --> 00:24:18,523 COP? 947 00:24:18,590 --> 00:24:19,591 >> I HAD NOTHING TO -- 948 00:24:19,658 --> 00:24:20,525 >> ELLIOT. 949 00:24:20,592 --> 00:24:21,226 >> YOU THINK YOU'RE SMARTER THAN 950 00:24:21,293 --> 00:24:21,459 ME? 951 00:24:21,526 --> 00:24:22,160 >> I NEED A DOCTOR. 952 00:24:22,227 --> 00:24:22,761 >> YOU'RE GONNA NEED A MORGUE, 953 00:24:22,828 --> 00:24:23,829 PAL. 954 00:24:23,895 --> 00:24:24,696 >> John: LEAVE WILL ARNETT 955 00:24:24,763 --> 00:24:27,632 ALONE! 956 00:24:27,699 --> 00:24:29,334 LOOK, I ADMIT, AS A VIEWER, IT 957 00:24:29,401 --> 00:24:31,870 IS SOMETHING TO SEE STABLER CHEW 958 00:24:31,937 --> 00:24:33,605 UP THE SCENERY AND SPIT IT OUT 959 00:24:33,672 --> 00:24:34,906 DIRECTLY INTO MATTHEW MODINE'S 960 00:24:34,973 --> 00:24:36,107 FACE. 961 00:24:36,174 --> 00:24:36,741 IS IT THE MODEL OF GOOD POLICE 962 00:24:36,808 --> 00:24:37,342 BEHAVIOR? 963 00:24:37,409 --> 00:24:38,810 ABSOLUTELY NOT. 964 00:24:38,877 --> 00:24:39,744 IS IT COMPELLING TO WATCH? 965 00:24:39,811 --> 00:24:40,412 FOR SURE. 966 00:24:40,478 --> 00:24:42,848 IS IT HOT? 967 00:24:42,914 --> 00:24:45,917 REASONABLE PEOPLE CAN DISAGREE. 968 00:24:45,984 --> 00:24:48,019 BUT GENERALLY, THE THESIS ON 969 00:24:48,086 --> 00:24:50,288 "SVU" IS THAT THE COPS DEEPLY 970 00:24:50,355 --> 00:24:51,523 CARE ABOUT GETTING JUSTICE FOR 971 00:24:51,590 --> 00:24:53,758 VICTIMS, AND THEIR GUT INSTINCTS 972 00:24:53,825 --> 00:24:55,327 MEAN THEY ALMOST ALWAYS GET THE 973 00:24:55,393 --> 00:24:56,461 JOB DONE IN THE END. 974 00:24:56,528 --> 00:24:57,596 IN ONE EPISODE, WE LEARN THAT 975 00:24:57,662 --> 00:24:59,464 STABLER HAS A 97% CASE CLOSURE 976 00:24:59,531 --> 00:25:00,732 RATE. 977 00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:03,501 AND PEOPLE LOVE THIS SHOW. 978 00:25:03,568 --> 00:25:04,736 CHRISTOPHER MELONI IS THE 979 00:25:04,803 --> 00:25:06,004 INTERNET'S "ZADDY," AND YOU CAN 980 00:25:06,071 --> 00:25:08,039 SEE WHY -- HIS ASS ALONE IS A 981 00:25:08,106 --> 00:25:10,308 POP-CULTURE ICON. 982 00:25:10,375 --> 00:25:11,610 AND MARISKA HARGITAY HAS A HUGE 983 00:25:11,676 --> 00:25:13,178 CULT FOLLOWING, TOO. 984 00:25:13,245 --> 00:25:15,847 FANS HAVE TATTOOS OF HER, TAYLOR 985 00:25:15,914 --> 00:25:17,449 SWIFT HAS A CAT NAMED FOR HER 986 00:25:17,515 --> 00:25:18,583 CHARACTER, OLIVIA BENSON, AND 987 00:25:18,650 --> 00:25:20,552 THERE ARE EVEN TIKTOKS LIKE 988 00:25:20,619 --> 00:25:20,752 THIS: 989 00:25:20,819 --> 00:25:21,353 >> DIDDLE YOU WHEN YOU WERE A 990 00:25:21,419 --> 00:25:21,519 KID? 991 00:25:21,586 --> 00:25:22,287 DADDY'S LITTLE GIRL? 992 00:25:22,354 --> 00:25:33,331 ♪ ♪ 993 00:25:33,398 --> 00:25:36,401 [LAUGHTER] 994 00:25:36,468 --> 00:25:37,435 >> John: IN GENERAL, I THINK 995 00:25:37,502 --> 00:25:38,603 I'VE MADE MY POSITION ON POLICE 996 00:25:38,670 --> 00:25:40,038 BRUTALITY PRETTY CLEAR. 997 00:25:40,105 --> 00:25:42,007 BUT I'LL ADMIT, IT'S HARD TO 998 00:25:42,073 --> 00:25:43,341 RESIST THE SIGHT OF OLIVIA 999 00:25:43,408 --> 00:25:44,042 BENSON SLAMMING AN ASSHOLE'S 1000 00:25:44,109 --> 00:25:48,647 HEAD ON A TABLE TO THE BEAT OF 1001 00:25:48,713 --> 00:25:49,047 "HOLLABACK GIRL." 1002 00:25:49,114 --> 00:25:49,447 GO OFF, GIRL BOSS! 1003 00:25:49,514 --> 00:25:49,981 LEAN IN TO STATE SPONSORED 1004 00:25:50,048 --> 00:25:53,785 VIOLENCE! 1005 00:25:53,852 --> 00:25:54,853 AND THERE'S SOMETHING INCREDIBLY 1006 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,788 APPEALING ABOUT THE IDEA OF A 1007 00:25:56,855 --> 00:25:57,822 WORLD WHERE SURVIVORS OF SEXUAL 1008 00:25:57,889 --> 00:25:59,090 ASSAULT ARE TAKEN SERIOUSLY BY 1009 00:25:59,157 --> 00:25:59,958 THE POLICE. 1010 00:26:00,025 --> 00:26:01,026 HARGITAY'S EVEN SPOKEN ABOUT 1011 00:26:01,092 --> 00:26:02,827 SOME OF THE SHOW'S POSITIVE 1012 00:26:02,894 --> 00:26:04,729 REAL-WORLD IMPACTS. 1013 00:26:04,796 --> 00:26:08,400 >> I HAVE SO MANY TIMES 1014 00:26:08,466 --> 00:26:10,869 ENCOUNTERED PEOPLE THAT HAVE 1015 00:26:10,936 --> 00:26:13,071 SAID BECAUSE OF THIS SHOW THEY 1016 00:26:13,138 --> 00:26:14,339 KNEW WHAT TO DO AFTER THEIR 1017 00:26:14,406 --> 00:26:16,207 ASSAULT. 1018 00:26:16,274 --> 00:26:18,043 BECAUSE OF THIS SHOW, THEY HAD A 1019 00:26:18,109 --> 00:26:20,712 RAPE KIT DONE. 1020 00:26:20,779 --> 00:26:22,180 BECAUSE OF THE SHOW, THEY 1021 00:26:22,247 --> 00:26:24,516 REPORTED AND HAD FAITH IN THAT. 1022 00:26:24,582 --> 00:26:26,217 AND BECAUSE OF THE SHOW, MOST OF 1023 00:26:26,284 --> 00:26:26,785 ALL, THEY DIDN'T FEEL ALONE 1024 00:26:26,851 --> 00:26:32,924 ANYMORE. 1025 00:26:32,991 --> 00:26:34,726 AND TO ME, WHEN I STARTED 1026 00:26:34,793 --> 00:26:36,027 HEARING THOSE STORIES IS WHEN I 1027 00:26:36,094 --> 00:26:37,462 KNEW THAT IT WASN'T JUST A TV 1028 00:26:37,529 --> 00:26:39,331 SHOW ANYMORE. 1029 00:26:39,397 --> 00:26:40,832 IT WAS SO MUCH MORE. 1030 00:26:40,899 --> 00:26:41,833 >> John: YEAH, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY 1031 00:26:41,900 --> 00:26:43,835 MOVING. 1032 00:26:43,902 --> 00:26:45,270 AND I DON'T DOUBT THE SHOW IS 1033 00:26:45,337 --> 00:26:46,938 DOING IMPORTANT WORK FOR SOME OF 1034 00:26:47,005 --> 00:26:50,442 ITS VIEWERS, IN BETWEEN SHOWING 1035 00:26:50,508 --> 00:26:51,810 HER SLAMMING A SUSPECT'S FACE 1036 00:26:51,876 --> 00:26:53,211 INTO A TABLE LIKE SHE'S A 1037 00:26:53,278 --> 00:26:55,080 TODDLER MAKING TWO BARBIES KISS. 1038 00:26:55,146 --> 00:26:57,716 AND TO HER CREDIT, MARISKA 1039 00:26:57,782 --> 00:26:58,717 HARGITAY HAS TRIED TO PARLAY HER 1040 00:26:58,783 --> 00:27:00,051 FAME INTO ADVOCACY, FOUNDING AN 1041 00:27:00,118 --> 00:27:01,886 ORGANIZATION WHICH ADVOCATES FOR 1042 00:27:01,953 --> 00:27:03,154 SURVIVORS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT, 1043 00:27:03,221 --> 00:27:05,023 DOMESTIC ABUSE, AND CHILD ABUSE. 1044 00:27:05,090 --> 00:27:06,591 BUT IF, AS HARGITAY SAYS, THE 1045 00:27:06,658 --> 00:27:09,494 SHOW ENCOURAGES PEOPLE TO AVAIL 1046 00:27:09,561 --> 00:27:11,896 THEMSELVES OF THIS SYSTEM, IT'S 1047 00:27:11,963 --> 00:27:12,764 WORTH KNOWING WHAT THAT SYSTEM 1048 00:27:12,831 --> 00:27:14,232 CAN LOOK LIKE IN PRACTICE. 1049 00:27:14,299 --> 00:27:15,700 BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOOD. 1050 00:27:15,767 --> 00:27:16,901 GOVERNMENT AND PRESS REPORTS 1051 00:27:16,968 --> 00:27:19,337 HAVE REPEATEDLY SHOWN THAT 1052 00:27:19,404 --> 00:27:20,472 NEW YORK'S ACTUAL SEX CRIMES 1053 00:27:20,538 --> 00:27:22,674 UNIT IS SET UP TO FAIL VICTIMS 1054 00:27:22,741 --> 00:27:24,642 OF SEXUAL ASSAULT. 1055 00:27:24,709 --> 00:27:25,777 BECAUSE ITS CASE CLOSURE RATE IS 1056 00:27:25,844 --> 00:27:34,452 A LONG WAY FROM ELLIOT STABLER'S 1057 00:27:34,519 --> 00:27:34,786 97%. 1058 00:27:34,853 --> 00:27:35,420 THE NYPD'S OFFICIAL FIGURES SHOW 1059 00:27:35,487 --> 00:27:36,087 THEY ONLY CLOSE ABOUT A THIRD OF 1060 00:27:36,154 --> 00:27:36,588 SEXUAL-ASSAULT CASES. 1061 00:27:36,654 --> 00:27:38,123 BUT ONE ANALYSIS OF CASES 1062 00:27:38,189 --> 00:27:42,494 HANDLED OVER A TWO-YEAR PERIOD 1063 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:43,228 FOUND A CLOSURE RATE OF JUST 6%. 1064 00:27:43,294 --> 00:27:46,631 AND A DAMNING 2018 INVESTIGATION 1065 00:27:46,698 --> 00:27:47,198 INTO NEW YORK'S SVD QUOTED 1066 00:27:47,265 --> 00:27:47,832 MULTIPLE PROSECUTORS DESCRIBING 1067 00:27:47,899 --> 00:27:48,500 IMPROPER HANDLING OF CASES BY 1068 00:27:48,566 --> 00:27:50,602 OVERLOADED OR INEXPERIENCED 1069 00:27:50,668 --> 00:27:51,503 INVESTIGATORS, WHO UNTIL 1070 00:27:51,569 --> 00:27:53,405 RECENTLY WERE ONLY GIVEN FIVE 1071 00:27:53,471 --> 00:27:55,040 DAYS OF FORMAL SPECIALIZED 1072 00:27:55,106 --> 00:27:57,108 TRAINING. 1073 00:27:57,175 --> 00:27:58,243 IS IT ANY WONDER THAT SOME COPS 1074 00:27:58,309 --> 00:28:00,412 ARE WATCHING "SVU" FOR TIPS? 1075 00:28:00,478 --> 00:28:01,513 WHICH MAY NOT BE SUCH A BAD 1076 00:28:01,579 --> 00:28:03,181 THING WHEN YOU GET JUSTICE 1077 00:28:03,248 --> 00:28:04,349 CRUSADER OLIVIA BENSON, BUT GETS 1078 00:28:04,416 --> 00:28:07,018 A LITTLE HAIRY WHEN YOU GET USE 1079 00:28:07,085 --> 00:28:09,587 OF EXCESSIVE FORCE ZADDY. 1080 00:28:09,654 --> 00:28:10,855 AND WHILE THE NYPD INSISTS 1081 00:28:10,922 --> 00:28:12,357 THEY'VE SINCE IMPROVED STAFFING 1082 00:28:12,424 --> 00:28:14,259 AND TRAINING, THE DOJ RECENTLY 1083 00:28:14,325 --> 00:28:15,527 ANNOUNCED THEIR OWN 1084 00:28:15,593 --> 00:28:16,995 INVESTIGATION, CITING REPORTS 1085 00:28:17,062 --> 00:28:18,363 THAT THE UNIT'S OFFICERS WERE 1086 00:28:18,430 --> 00:28:19,297 "FAILING TO CONDUCT BASIC 1087 00:28:19,364 --> 00:28:20,632 INVESTIGATIVE STEPS AND INSTEAD 1088 00:28:20,698 --> 00:28:25,036 SHAMING AND ABUSING SURVIVORS 1089 00:28:25,103 --> 00:28:25,703 AND RE-TRAUMATIZING THEM DURING 1090 00:28:25,770 --> 00:28:26,438 INVESTIGATIONS." 1091 00:28:26,504 --> 00:28:27,639 AND YET, THE PORTRAIT "SVU" 1092 00:28:27,705 --> 00:28:29,774 PAINTS OF THE DIVISION IS SO 1093 00:28:29,841 --> 00:28:30,809 CONVINCING THAT WHEN A NEW 1094 00:28:30,875 --> 00:28:33,745 COMMANDER TOOK OVER IN 2020, IN 1095 00:28:33,812 --> 00:28:34,679 AN INTERVIEW THAT DISCUSSED THAT 1096 00:28:34,746 --> 00:28:36,614 SCATHING INTERNAL REPORT I JUST 1097 00:28:36,681 --> 00:28:39,184 MENTIONED, HERE'S HOW THE ANCHOR 1098 00:28:39,250 --> 00:28:40,318 WRAPPED UP THE CONVERSATION. 1099 00:28:40,385 --> 00:28:42,220 >> YOU KNOW I'M GONNA ASK THIS 1100 00:28:42,287 --> 00:28:44,255 BECAUSE I'M OBSESSED WITH THE TV 1101 00:28:44,322 --> 00:28:45,190 SHOW "LAW & ORDER: SVU," HOW 1102 00:28:45,256 --> 00:28:47,792 REAL IS THE TV SHOW TO REAL 1103 00:28:47,859 --> 00:28:50,895 LIFE? 1104 00:28:50,962 --> 00:28:53,064 >> I CAN TELL YOU THIS, THE 1105 00:28:53,131 --> 00:28:54,632 DEDICATION YOU SEE ON TV WITH 1106 00:28:54,699 --> 00:28:55,834 THE INVESTIGATORS, THAT'S THE 1107 00:28:55,900 --> 00:28:56,234 SAME DEDICATION -- 1108 00:28:56,301 --> 00:28:56,868 >> YEAH. 1109 00:28:56,935 --> 00:28:58,770 >> THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE REAL 1110 00:28:58,837 --> 00:29:00,772 SPECIAL VICTIMS UNIT AND THE 1111 00:29:00,839 --> 00:29:03,074 CASES ARE VERY, VERY SIMILAR. 1112 00:29:03,141 --> 00:29:04,742 AS HEINOUS AS YOU SEE THEM ON 1113 00:29:04,809 --> 00:29:06,211 TV, WE ARE SEEING THE SAME THING 1114 00:29:06,277 --> 00:29:07,846 IN REAL LIFE. 1115 00:29:07,912 --> 00:29:09,414 >> SO MANY OF THEM ARE RIPPED 1116 00:29:09,481 --> 00:29:10,548 FROM THE HEADLINES, YOU KNOW. 1117 00:29:10,615 --> 00:29:11,449 >> John: WHAT ARE YOU DOING? 1118 00:29:11,516 --> 00:29:14,819 WHY STOP THE FAWNING THERE? 1119 00:29:14,886 --> 00:29:15,453 JUST KEEP IT GOING! 1120 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:16,054 "ARE YOU REALLY AS COOL AS YOU 1121 00:29:16,121 --> 00:29:16,554 SEEM ON TV? 1122 00:29:16,621 --> 00:29:17,989 DO YOU SOMETIMES MAKE THE CAR GO 1123 00:29:18,056 --> 00:29:19,524 WEE-WOO EVEN IF IT DOESN'T NEED 1124 00:29:19,591 --> 00:29:20,225 TO GO WEE-WOO? 1125 00:29:20,291 --> 00:29:24,195 IS ICE-T NICE?" 1126 00:29:24,262 --> 00:29:25,730 AND IT'S WORTH KNOWING: SOME 1127 00:29:25,797 --> 00:29:26,998 SURVIVORS HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT WHAT 1128 00:29:27,065 --> 00:29:29,067 IT'S LIKE SEEING THESE 1129 00:29:29,134 --> 00:29:30,301 DETECTIVES VALORIZED ON TV, WITH 1130 00:29:30,368 --> 00:29:32,237 ONE SAYING, "LAW & ORDER: SVU" 1131 00:29:32,303 --> 00:29:34,639 GAVE ME THE FALSE IMPRESSION 1132 00:29:34,706 --> 00:29:36,508 THAT THIS SQUAD CARED DEEPLY 1133 00:29:36,574 --> 00:29:38,943 ABOUT VICTIMS AND THEIR JOBS, 1134 00:29:39,010 --> 00:29:39,811 AND ANOTHER SAYING, "IF I HAD A 1135 00:29:39,878 --> 00:29:41,179 DOLLAR FOR EVERY TIME I HEARD, 1136 00:29:41,246 --> 00:29:41,679 'THIS CAN'T BE TRUE. 1137 00:29:41,746 --> 00:29:42,614 OLIVIA BENSON WOULD NEVER LET 1138 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:43,148 THIS HAPPEN!' I WOULD HAVE 1139 00:29:43,214 --> 00:29:44,616 ENOUGH TO COVER MY HOSPITAL 1140 00:29:44,682 --> 00:29:45,150 BILLS AND THERAPY FOR MY 1141 00:29:45,216 --> 00:29:47,118 TRAUMA." 1142 00:29:47,185 --> 00:29:48,353 AND YOU SHOULD KNOW: EVEN THE 1143 00:29:48,419 --> 00:29:51,389 REAL-WORLD VERSION OF THE 1144 00:29:51,456 --> 00:29:55,894 TENACIOUS, UNCOMPROMISING OLIVIA 1145 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,596 BENSON, AND THE SHOW'S TOUGH 1146 00:29:58,663 --> 00:29:59,164 ADA, ALEXANDRA CABOT, HAS A 1147 00:29:59,230 --> 00:29:59,998 SIGNIFICANT ASTERISK, BECAUSE A 1148 00:30:00,064 --> 00:30:01,065 MAJOR INSPIRATION FOR BOTH 1149 00:30:01,132 --> 00:30:02,000 CHARACTERS IS LINDA FAIRSTEIN, 1150 00:30:02,066 --> 00:30:03,067 THE WOMAN INFAMOUS FOR 1151 00:30:03,134 --> 00:30:04,269 PROSECUTING THE CENTRAL PARK 1152 00:30:04,335 --> 00:30:06,104 FIVE, OR AS THEY'RE NOW KNOWN, 1153 00:30:06,171 --> 00:30:07,739 THE EXONERATED FIVE. 1154 00:30:07,805 --> 00:30:09,407 AND I WILL SAY: SOME BEHIND THE 1155 00:30:09,474 --> 00:30:12,510 SHOW ARE AWARE OF ITS ROLE IN 1156 00:30:12,577 --> 00:30:13,244 PERPETUATING A FALSE NARRATIVE 1157 00:30:13,311 --> 00:30:14,145 ABOUT POLICE. 1158 00:30:14,212 --> 00:30:16,814 IN FACT, IN 2020, AT THE PEAK OF 1159 00:30:16,881 --> 00:30:18,149 THE BLACK LIVES MATTER PROTESTS, 1160 00:30:18,216 --> 00:30:19,651 WARREN LEIGHT REFLECTED ON THE 1161 00:30:19,717 --> 00:30:20,685 ROLE THE SHOW PLAYS IN OUR 1162 00:30:20,752 --> 00:30:22,320 DISCUSSION OF POLICING. 1163 00:30:22,387 --> 00:30:24,756 >> SO, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUALLY, 1164 00:30:24,822 --> 00:30:26,658 AM I DOING -- AM I CONTRIBUTING 1165 00:30:26,724 --> 00:30:27,892 -- MIS-CONTRIBUTING TO SOCIETY? 1166 00:30:27,959 --> 00:30:28,259 I DON'T KNOW. 1167 00:30:28,326 --> 00:30:29,060 COLLECTIVELY, ARE WE? 1168 00:30:29,127 --> 00:30:31,029 YEAH. 1169 00:30:31,095 --> 00:30:32,297 SO -- SO, HOW DO YOU-WHAT DO YOU 1170 00:30:32,363 --> 00:30:33,598 DO? 1171 00:30:33,665 --> 00:30:38,836 CAN YOU GO INTO THE NETWORK? 1172 00:30:38,903 --> 00:30:40,705 I HAVE PITCHED THE -- BY THE 1173 00:30:40,772 --> 00:30:41,906 WAY, I THINK EVERY WRITER HAS 1174 00:30:41,973 --> 00:30:44,576 PITCHED THE INNOCENCE PROJECT 1175 00:30:44,642 --> 00:30:45,143 SERIES TO THE NETWORKS. 1176 00:30:45,210 --> 00:30:45,610 I'VE MADE THAT PITCH. 1177 00:30:45,677 --> 00:30:46,244 I BET IT HAS A BETTER CHANCE OF 1178 00:30:46,311 --> 00:30:46,511 GOING NOW. 1179 00:30:46,578 --> 00:30:47,412 AND WITHIN THE DICK WOLF LAW AND 1180 00:30:47,478 --> 00:30:49,314 ORDER UNIVERSE, IT WON'T BE 1181 00:30:49,380 --> 00:30:51,482 LIKELY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO 1182 00:30:51,549 --> 00:30:54,219 A SHOW THAT REVEALS THAT -- THAT 1183 00:30:54,285 --> 00:30:55,753 BASES ITSELF ON COPS BEHAVING 1184 00:30:55,820 --> 00:30:58,990 ILLEGAL. 1185 00:30:59,057 --> 00:31:02,460 THAT'S NOT PART OF -- OF THAT -- 1186 00:31:02,527 --> 00:31:03,861 OF DICK'S BRAND. 1187 00:31:03,928 --> 00:31:05,430 >> John: EXACTLY. 1188 00:31:05,496 --> 00:31:07,432 EVEN IF THE PEOPLE WORKING ON 1189 00:31:07,498 --> 00:31:12,537 THE SHOW -- THE ACTORS, WRITERS 1190 00:31:12,604 --> 00:31:13,104 AND SHOWRUNNERS -- HAVE GOOD 1191 00:31:13,171 --> 00:31:13,738 INTENTIONS ABOUT CORRECTING THE 1192 00:31:13,805 --> 00:31:14,305 RECORD, THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH 1193 00:31:14,372 --> 00:31:14,973 THEY CAN DO. 1194 00:31:15,039 --> 00:31:16,474 "LAW & ORDER" IS NEVER GOING TO 1195 00:31:16,541 --> 00:31:17,742 GRAPPLE WITH THE REALITY OF 1196 00:31:17,809 --> 00:31:18,977 POLICING IN A MEANINGFUL WAY, 1197 00:31:19,043 --> 00:31:21,112 FOR THE SAME REASONS DANIEL 1198 00:31:21,179 --> 00:31:22,480 TIGER WON'T. 1199 00:31:22,547 --> 00:31:23,815 IT'S JUST NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN, 1200 00:31:23,881 --> 00:31:24,849 AND HONESTLY, YOU'D BE PRETTY 1201 00:31:24,916 --> 00:31:27,018 WEIRDED OUT IF IT DID. 1202 00:31:27,085 --> 00:31:28,386 BECAUSE FUNDAMENTALLY, THE 1203 00:31:28,453 --> 00:31:30,188 PERSON WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR 1204 00:31:30,255 --> 00:31:31,856 "LAW & ORDER" AND ITS BRAND IS 1205 00:31:31,923 --> 00:31:33,124 DICK WOLF. 1206 00:31:33,191 --> 00:31:35,793 AND HE KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT HE 1207 00:31:35,860 --> 00:31:37,462 WANTS HE WANTS HIS SHOW TO DO, 1208 00:31:37,528 --> 00:31:38,863 AND -- IMPORTANTLY -- NOT TO DO. 1209 00:31:38,930 --> 00:31:39,897 HERE HE IS INVOKING ONE OF THE 1210 00:31:39,964 --> 00:31:41,399 MOST NOTORIOUS CASES OF POLICE 1211 00:31:41,466 --> 00:31:43,301 ABUSE IN NEW YORK CITY, ABNER 1212 00:31:43,368 --> 00:31:44,702 LOUIMA, WHO WAS BEATEN BY NYPD 1213 00:31:44,769 --> 00:31:48,840 OFFICERS AND SODOMIZED IN 1997. 1214 00:31:48,906 --> 00:31:51,476 >> WE'RE NOT THERE TO DO ABNER 1215 00:31:51,542 --> 00:31:54,212 LOUIMA. 1216 00:31:54,279 --> 00:31:54,946 THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A 1217 00:31:55,013 --> 00:31:56,914 TERRIBLE THING THAT HAPPENED BUT 1218 00:31:56,981 --> 00:31:58,016 THAT REPRESENTS ONE OR TWO BAD 1219 00:31:58,082 --> 00:31:58,616 APPLES IN A POLICE FORCE OF 1220 00:31:58,683 --> 00:32:01,252 35,000 PEOPLE. 1221 00:32:01,319 --> 00:32:03,121 >> WE'RE CERTAINLY THE SHOW -- 1222 00:32:03,187 --> 00:32:06,291 ALL THREE SHOWS ARE PROBABLY THE 1223 00:32:06,357 --> 00:32:07,458 BEST RECRUITING POSTER YOU COULD 1224 00:32:07,525 --> 00:32:09,294 HAVE FOR BEING A NEW YORK CITY 1225 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:14,666 COP. 1226 00:32:14,732 --> 00:32:15,266 >> John: RIGHT. 1227 00:32:15,333 --> 00:32:15,867 BECAUSE A RECRUITING POSTER IS 1228 00:32:15,933 --> 00:32:16,301 ALWAYS GOING TO BE A 1229 00:32:16,367 --> 00:32:16,834 PROPAGANDIZED, HERO-WASHED 1230 00:32:16,901 --> 00:32:17,402 VERSION OF THE TRUTH. 1231 00:32:17,468 --> 00:32:18,703 A TRUTH WHICH IS MORE OFTEN THAN 1232 00:32:18,770 --> 00:32:20,338 NOT, VERY UGLY. 1233 00:32:20,405 --> 00:32:22,573 AND FOR THE 300TH TIME, I KNOW 1234 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,175 "LAW & ORDER" IS JUST A TV SHOW. 1235 00:32:24,242 --> 00:32:25,209 I KNOW IT'S MEANT TO BE 1236 00:32:25,276 --> 00:32:27,345 ENTERTAINMENT. 1237 00:32:27,412 --> 00:32:28,313 AND HONESTLY, I'M NOT EVEN 1238 00:32:28,379 --> 00:32:29,614 TELLING YOU NOT TO WATCH IT. 1239 00:32:29,681 --> 00:32:31,082 IT'S COMPLETELY FINE TO ENJOY 1240 00:32:31,149 --> 00:32:33,351 IT, AND IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE TO 1241 00:32:33,418 --> 00:32:35,787 WANT OLIVIA BENSON TO EXIST. 1242 00:32:35,853 --> 00:32:37,488 BUT IT IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER 1243 00:32:37,555 --> 00:32:39,123 JUST HOW FAR IT IS FROM 1244 00:32:39,190 --> 00:32:40,058 REPRESENTING ANYTHING RESEMBLING 1245 00:32:40,124 --> 00:32:41,759 REALITY. 1246 00:32:41,826 --> 00:32:43,027 AS ONE CRITIC OF "LAW & ORDER" 1247 00:32:43,094 --> 00:32:44,862 HAS PUT IT, "IF A MEDICAL SHOW 1248 00:32:44,929 --> 00:32:46,731 WAS GIVING US INACCURATE 1249 00:32:46,798 --> 00:32:47,732 INFORMATION, WE WOULD SAY IT'S 1250 00:32:47,799 --> 00:32:48,966 DANGEROUS." 1251 00:32:49,033 --> 00:32:50,568 WHICH IS TRUE, BECAUSE THINK 1252 00:32:50,635 --> 00:32:51,669 ABOUT IT -- YOU KNOW 1253 00:32:51,736 --> 00:32:53,104 "GREY'S ANATOMY" DOESN'T DEPICT 1254 00:32:53,171 --> 00:32:53,871 WHAT HAPPENS INSIDE AN ACTUAL 1255 00:32:53,938 --> 00:32:55,640 HOSPITAL. 1256 00:32:55,707 --> 00:32:57,675 THOSE DOCTORS ARE RIDICULOUSLY 1257 00:32:57,742 --> 00:32:58,643 HOT, NONE OF THEM ARE NEARLY 1258 00:32:58,710 --> 00:33:00,111 TIRED ENOUGH, AND IT NEEDS ABOUT 1259 00:33:00,178 --> 00:33:02,747 5000% MORE DISCUSSION OF 1260 00:33:02,814 --> 00:33:04,682 INSURANCE. 1261 00:33:04,749 --> 00:33:06,217 BUT IF THOSE MEDICAL 1262 00:33:06,284 --> 00:33:07,385 PROFESSIONALS WERE ROUTINELY 1263 00:33:07,452 --> 00:33:08,486 CLAIMING THAT VACCINES CAUSE 1264 00:33:08,553 --> 00:33:10,988 AUTISM AND HERBAL REMEDIES CURE 1265 00:33:11,055 --> 00:33:13,558 CANCER, WE'D PROBABLY BE HAVING 1266 00:33:13,624 --> 00:33:14,525 A CONVERSATION ABOUT IT. 1267 00:33:14,592 --> 00:33:15,626 BECAUSE THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT 1268 00:33:15,693 --> 00:33:17,495 "LAW & ORDER" IS DOING. 1269 00:33:17,562 --> 00:33:18,863 IT'S PRESENTING A WORLD WHERE 1270 00:33:18,930 --> 00:33:20,231 THE COPS CAN ALWAYS FIGURE OUT 1271 00:33:20,298 --> 00:33:22,467 WHO DID IT, DEFENSE ATTORNEYS 1272 00:33:22,533 --> 00:33:23,801 ARE IRRITATING OBSTACLES TO BE 1273 00:33:23,868 --> 00:33:24,602 OVERCOME, AND EVEN IF A COP 1274 00:33:24,669 --> 00:33:28,973 ROUGHS UP A SUSPECT, IT'S ALL IN 1275 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:29,507 PURSUIT OF A JUST OUTCOME. 1276 00:33:29,574 --> 00:33:30,842 AND IT BLASTS THAT FANTASY AT 1277 00:33:30,908 --> 00:33:32,343 YOU IN ENDLESS RERUNS AND 1278 00:33:32,410 --> 00:33:34,479 MARATHONS, IN THE GUISE OF VERY 1279 00:33:34,545 --> 00:33:37,882 WELL-PRODUCED TV. 1280 00:33:37,949 --> 00:33:40,785 BUT UNDERNEATH IT ALL, IT'S A 1281 00:33:40,852 --> 00:33:41,919 COMMERCIAL, PRODUCED BY A MAN 1282 00:33:41,986 --> 00:33:43,020 WHO IS, IN HIS WORDS, 1283 00:33:43,087 --> 00:33:45,323 "UNABASHEDLY PRO-LAW 1284 00:33:45,390 --> 00:33:46,657 ENFORCEMENT," AND IS VERY GOOD 1285 00:33:46,724 --> 00:33:48,292 AT SELLING THINGS. 1286 00:33:48,359 --> 00:33:50,027 AND IN THIS INSTANCE, HE'S 1287 00:33:50,094 --> 00:33:51,562 SELLING A COMPLETE FANTASY THAT 1288 00:33:51,629 --> 00:33:53,564 MANY PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY ARE 1289 00:33:53,631 --> 00:33:55,566 ONLY TOO HAPPY TO BUY. 1290 00:33:55,633 --> 00:33:57,235 WHICH IS FINE -- AS LONG AS WE 1291 00:33:57,301 --> 00:33:58,603 DON'T LOSE SIGHT OF THE FACT 1292 00:33:58,669 --> 00:34:00,037 THAT IT'S AN AD FOR A DEFECTIVE 1293 00:34:00,104 --> 00:34:01,472 PRODUCT. 1294 00:34:01,539 --> 00:34:03,975 BECAUSE, IF I MAY QUOTE ONE LAST 1295 00:34:04,041 --> 00:34:06,577 TIME FROM THE LIBRARY OF 1296 00:34:06,644 --> 00:34:08,312 ALEXANDRIA THAT IS ICE-T'S 1297 00:34:08,379 --> 00:34:11,249 TWITTER ACCOUNT, "YOU GOTTA KNOW 1298 00:34:11,315 --> 00:34:12,116 WHO THE F YOU'RE DEALING WITH. 1299 00:34:12,183 --> 00:34:12,917 COULD BE THE COPS." 1300 00:34:12,984 --> 00:34:14,719 THAT'S OUR SHOW. 1301 00:34:14,786 --> 00:34:15,420 THANKS SO MUCH FOR WATCHING. 1302 00:34:15,486 --> 00:34:16,087 AND GIVEN TONIGHT'S STORY, 1303 00:34:16,154 --> 00:34:17,355 THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY TO END IT, 1304 00:34:17,422 --> 00:34:18,890 AND THAT'S THIS. 1305 00:34:18,956 --> 00:34:21,058 [DUN-DUN] 1306 00:34:21,125 --> 00:34:22,126 [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] 1307 00:34:22,193 --> 00:34:23,194 ♪ ♪