1 00:00:06,473 --> 00:00:31,498 ♪ ♪ 2 00:00:31,564 --> 00:00:32,432 [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] 3 00:00:32,499 --> 00:00:33,433 >> John: WELCOME, WELCOME, 4 00:00:33,500 --> 00:00:34,300 WELCOME TO "LAST WEEK TONIGHT!" 5 00:00:34,367 --> 00:00:35,034 I'M JOHN OLIVER. 6 00:00:35,101 --> 00:00:37,103 THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING US. 7 00:00:37,170 --> 00:00:38,805 IT'S BEEN A BUSY WEEK FROM 8 00:00:38,872 --> 00:00:40,373 MASSIVE PROTESTS STILL ONGOING 9 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,375 IN IRAN, TO THE FACT TOM BRADY 10 00:00:42,442 --> 00:00:43,810 SUDDENLY HAS ONE LESS RING. 11 00:00:43,877 --> 00:00:45,678 BUT WE'RE GOING TO START IN THE 12 00:00:45,745 --> 00:00:46,980 UK, WHERE THERE'S BEEN A MAJOR 13 00:00:47,046 --> 00:00:48,815 CHANGE IN LEADERSHIP. 14 00:00:48,882 --> 00:00:50,049 >> AFTER JUST 45 DAYS ON THE 15 00:00:50,116 --> 00:00:52,585 JOB, LIZ TRUSS IS OUT. 16 00:00:52,652 --> 00:00:54,354 HER VERY BRIEF STINT AT DOWNING 17 00:00:54,421 --> 00:00:55,755 STREET CHAOTIC FROM THE START. 18 00:00:55,822 --> 00:00:57,090 THIS MEME TAKING OVER THE 19 00:00:57,157 --> 00:00:58,725 INTERNET, THE CHALLENGE FROM A 20 00:00:58,792 --> 00:01:00,860 TABLOID HERE WHICH WILL LAST 21 00:01:00,927 --> 00:01:02,896 LONGER, THIS HEAD OF ICEBERG 22 00:01:02,962 --> 00:01:04,197 LETTUCE OR LIZ TRUSS? 23 00:01:04,264 --> 00:01:06,399 THERE WAS EVEN A LETTUCE LIVE 24 00:01:06,466 --> 00:01:07,834 STREAM, AND LAST NIGHT IT WAS 25 00:01:07,901 --> 00:01:09,202 PROJECTED ON THE WALLS OF 26 00:01:09,269 --> 00:01:10,503 PARLIAMENT THE VICTORIOUS HEAD 27 00:01:10,570 --> 00:01:11,738 OF LETTUCE. 28 00:01:11,805 --> 00:01:13,773 >> John: PRETTY GOOD! 29 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:14,808 FROM THE CHALLENGE ITSELF, TO 30 00:01:14,874 --> 00:01:17,010 THE PHRASE "VICTORIOUS HEAD OF 31 00:01:17,076 --> 00:01:18,711 LETTUCE," TO THE GOOGLY EYES AND 32 00:01:18,778 --> 00:01:20,847 THE ADORABLE BLONDE BOB, EVERY 33 00:01:20,914 --> 00:01:21,581 STEP WAS WELL THOUGHT OUT AND 34 00:01:21,648 --> 00:01:24,651 BEAUTIFULLY EXECUTED. 35 00:01:24,717 --> 00:01:27,253 HONESTLY, FROM ONE LEAF 36 00:01:27,320 --> 00:01:31,124 VEGETABLE LOVER TO ANOTHER? 37 00:01:31,191 --> 00:01:31,591 YOU HAVE MY RESPECT. 38 00:01:31,658 --> 00:01:32,192 AND INCREDIBLY, THE RUN-UP TO 39 00:01:32,258 --> 00:01:32,859 ALL THAT WAS EVEN MORE CHAOTIC. 40 00:01:32,926 --> 00:01:33,660 VERY BASICALLY, LIZ TRUSS'S 41 00:01:33,726 --> 00:01:34,494 CHANCELLOR WAS FIRED, BECOMING 42 00:01:34,561 --> 00:01:35,929 THE SECOND-SHORTEST-SERVING 43 00:01:35,995 --> 00:01:37,831 CHANCELLOR IN BRITISH HISTORY, 44 00:01:37,897 --> 00:01:38,598 AFTER THIS GUY, THOUGH AT LEAST 45 00:01:38,665 --> 00:01:39,299 HE HAD THE GOOD EXCUSE OF 46 00:01:39,365 --> 00:01:40,767 "HE DIED." 47 00:01:40,834 --> 00:01:42,368 THEN HER HOME SECRETARY, SUELLA 48 00:01:42,435 --> 00:01:43,703 BRAVERMAN, WAS FORCED TO RESIGN 49 00:01:43,770 --> 00:01:44,737 AFTER BREACHING SECURITY 50 00:01:44,804 --> 00:01:46,039 PROCEDURES BY USING HER PERSONAL 51 00:01:46,105 --> 00:01:46,606 EMAIL TO SEND A GOVERNMENT 52 00:01:46,673 --> 00:01:47,707 DOCUMENT. 53 00:01:47,774 --> 00:01:49,476 THEN HER OWN PARTY TORE ITSELF 54 00:01:49,542 --> 00:01:50,844 APART IN A CHAOTIC VOTE ON 55 00:01:50,910 --> 00:01:52,245 FRACKING, PROMPTING ONE PARTY 56 00:01:52,312 --> 00:01:53,913 LEADER TO GIVE AN INCREDIBLE 57 00:01:53,980 --> 00:01:55,515 QUOTE, PERHAPS BEST DELIVERED BY 58 00:01:55,582 --> 00:01:57,116 THIS GERMAN NEWS OUTLET. 59 00:01:57,183 --> 00:01:58,451 AND IF YOU DON'T SPEAK GERMAN, 60 00:01:58,518 --> 00:02:01,421 DON'T WORRY -- THEY SWITCH TO 61 00:02:01,488 --> 00:02:02,355 ENGLISH FOR THE IMPORTANT PART. 62 00:02:02,422 --> 00:02:02,856 >> [SPEAKING NON-ENGLISH 63 00:02:02,922 --> 00:02:05,391 LANGUAGE] 64 00:02:05,458 --> 00:02:07,560 I'M FUCKING FURIOUS AND I DON'T 65 00:02:07,627 --> 00:02:10,196 FUCKING CARE ANYMORE. 66 00:02:10,263 --> 00:02:11,965 >> John: PERFECT. 67 00:02:12,031 --> 00:02:13,500 AND SO MUCH BETTER WITH A GERMAN 68 00:02:13,566 --> 00:02:16,135 ACCENT WHICH MAKES EVERYTHING 69 00:02:16,202 --> 00:02:17,670 SOUND A THOUSAND TIMES MEANER. 70 00:02:17,737 --> 00:02:18,505 IF SOMEONE SAID TO YOU "NICE 71 00:02:18,571 --> 00:02:19,839 OUTFIT," YOU'D BE DELIGHTED. 72 00:02:19,906 --> 00:02:21,908 BUT IF THEY SAID "NICE OUTFIT," 73 00:02:21,975 --> 00:02:24,177 YOU WOULD KILL YOURSELF. 74 00:02:24,244 --> 00:02:26,112 AT THAT POINT, ALL DECORUM WAS 75 00:02:26,179 --> 00:02:26,713 BASICALLY GONE. 76 00:02:26,779 --> 00:02:29,415 PERHAPS THE NADIR WAS AFTER THIS 77 00:02:29,482 --> 00:02:31,851 CONTENTIOUS INTERVIEW BETWEEN A 78 00:02:31,918 --> 00:02:33,286 REPORTER AT DOWNING STREET, AND 79 00:02:33,353 --> 00:02:34,320 MP STEVE BAKER, ONE OF THE LAST 80 00:02:34,387 --> 00:02:35,188 TRUSS SUPPORTERS. 81 00:02:35,255 --> 00:02:36,422 THE REPORTER'S MIC WAS LEFT ON 82 00:02:36,489 --> 00:02:37,724 AFTER THE INTERVIEW HAD ENDED, 83 00:02:37,790 --> 00:02:39,158 AND YOU COULD HEAR HIM RESPOND 84 00:02:39,225 --> 00:02:42,262 TO BAKER CLAIMING HE'D ASKED A 85 00:02:42,328 --> 00:02:42,629 STUPID QUESTION. 86 00:02:42,695 --> 00:02:46,199 >> THANKS A LOT, STEVE. 87 00:02:46,266 --> 00:02:47,800 IT WASN'T A STUPID QUESTION, 88 00:02:47,867 --> 00:02:49,068 STEVE, YOU KNOW IT. 89 00:02:49,135 --> 00:02:50,203 I'M VERY HAPPY TO GO UP AGAINST 90 00:02:50,270 --> 00:02:54,107 YOU ON TRUSS ANY DAY. 91 00:02:54,173 --> 00:02:55,808 [LAUGHS] 92 00:02:55,875 --> 00:02:58,077 WHAT A CUNT. 93 00:02:58,144 --> 00:03:00,446 >> John: NOW, I KNOW THAT SOUNDS 94 00:03:00,513 --> 00:03:01,848 BAD TO AMERICAN EARS. 95 00:03:01,915 --> 00:03:03,283 BUT YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND -- 96 00:03:03,349 --> 00:03:05,718 THERE'S NOTHING MORE BRITISH 97 00:03:05,785 --> 00:03:06,819 THAN POLITELY THANKING SOMEONE 98 00:03:06,886 --> 00:03:08,221 FOR A DISAGREEMENT, THEN 99 00:03:08,288 --> 00:03:09,756 CHEERILY CALLING THEM A CUNT. 100 00:03:09,822 --> 00:03:11,224 IT WASN'T IN THE U.S. VERSION, 101 00:03:11,291 --> 00:03:13,526 BUT IT IS HOW "PADDINGTON 2" 102 00:03:13,593 --> 00:03:14,994 ENDS. 103 00:03:15,061 --> 00:03:16,930 SO LONG STORY SHORT: TRUSS IS 104 00:03:16,996 --> 00:03:17,664 OUT, AND THIS MAN, RISHI SUNAK, 105 00:03:17,730 --> 00:03:18,064 IS IN. 106 00:03:18,131 --> 00:03:19,732 AND HE INHERITS AN EVEN BIGGER 107 00:03:19,799 --> 00:03:20,667 MESS THAN THE ONE TRUSS DID. 108 00:03:20,733 --> 00:03:22,435 BECAUSE HE'S ABOUT TO MAKE 109 00:03:22,502 --> 00:03:23,570 SEVERE CUTS TO PUBLIC SPENDING 110 00:03:23,636 --> 00:03:25,271 -- WHICH WILL BE ESPECIALLY 111 00:03:25,338 --> 00:03:26,272 DIFFICULT TO TAKE COMING FROM 112 00:03:26,339 --> 00:03:26,973 HIM, BECAUSE HE'S INCREDIBLY 113 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,241 WEALTHY. 114 00:03:28,308 --> 00:03:29,776 >> SUNAK RANKS AMONG THE U.K.'S 115 00:03:29,842 --> 00:03:31,578 RICHEST AND HAS BEEN LABELED OUT 116 00:03:31,644 --> 00:03:34,347 OF TOUCH WITH ORDINARY VOTERS. 117 00:03:34,414 --> 00:03:37,016 THIS 2001 BBC DOCUMENTARY CLIP 118 00:03:37,083 --> 00:03:38,384 WHEN HE WAS STILL AT UNIVERSITY 119 00:03:38,451 --> 00:03:39,586 LATER WENT VIRAL AND IT DIDN'T 120 00:03:39,652 --> 00:03:41,087 HELP. 121 00:03:41,154 --> 00:03:42,388 >> I HAVE FRIENDS WHO ARE, YOU 122 00:03:42,455 --> 00:03:43,590 KNOW, WORKING CLASS, BUT -- 123 00:03:43,656 --> 00:03:44,857 WELL, NOT WORKING CLASS, BUT I 124 00:03:44,924 --> 00:03:46,225 MIX AND MATCH AND THEN I GO TO 125 00:03:46,292 --> 00:03:48,461 SEE KIDS FROM AN INNER CITY 126 00:03:48,528 --> 00:03:49,262 STATE SCHOOL AND TELL THEM, YOU 127 00:03:49,329 --> 00:03:53,066 KNOW, TO APPLY TO OXFORD. 128 00:03:53,132 --> 00:03:53,800 >> John: AH, GREAT STRATEGY. 129 00:03:53,866 --> 00:03:54,434 "MY ELITE EDUCATION HAS TAUGHT 130 00:03:54,500 --> 00:03:56,669 ME THAT YOU'RE MERE VICTIMS OF A 131 00:03:56,736 --> 00:03:57,403 COMPLEX WEB OF SYSTEMIC 132 00:03:57,470 --> 00:03:58,805 INEQUITY, BUT ALSO... 133 00:03:58,871 --> 00:04:02,175 WHAT IF YOU JUST WEREN'T?" 134 00:04:02,241 --> 00:04:03,343 AND IT'S NOT LIKE SUNAK'S GOTTEN 135 00:04:03,409 --> 00:04:06,579 MUCH BETTER AT DISPLAYING A 136 00:04:06,646 --> 00:04:07,213 COMMON TOUCH SINCE THEN -- HE 137 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:08,715 ONCE TRIED TO PROMOTE A CUT IN 138 00:04:08,781 --> 00:04:09,782 FUEL PRICES BY BEING 139 00:04:09,849 --> 00:04:10,984 PHOTOGRAPHED FILLING UP A CAR 140 00:04:11,050 --> 00:04:12,952 THAT, IT TURNED OUT, WASN'T HIS. 141 00:04:13,019 --> 00:04:17,590 WHICH, TO BE FAIR, I COULD'VE 142 00:04:17,657 --> 00:04:18,057 TOLD YOU STRAIGHTAWAY. 143 00:04:18,124 --> 00:04:19,258 THAT CAR IS A BURGUNDY KIA RIO. 144 00:04:19,325 --> 00:04:19,926 THE CLOSEST RISHI WOULD GET TO A 145 00:04:19,993 --> 00:04:21,027 CAR LIKE THAT IS TO TELL IT TO 146 00:04:21,094 --> 00:04:22,762 CONSIDER BECOMING A ROLLS ROYCE. 147 00:04:22,829 --> 00:04:24,464 AND HIS TENURE AS PRIME MINISTER 148 00:04:24,530 --> 00:04:26,299 IS ALREADY OFF TO A QUESTIONABLE 149 00:04:26,366 --> 00:04:27,433 START, GIVEN ONE OF HIS FIRST 150 00:04:27,500 --> 00:04:29,168 MOVES WAS TO RE-APPOINT SUELLA 151 00:04:29,235 --> 00:04:30,470 BRAVERMAN AS HOME SECRETARY, 152 00:04:30,536 --> 00:04:32,305 DESPITE THE FACT, REMEMBER, 153 00:04:32,372 --> 00:04:33,573 SHE'D BEEN FORCED OUT OF THAT 154 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:34,874 JOB IN DISGRACE JUST SIX DAYS 155 00:04:34,941 --> 00:04:37,110 PREVIOUSLY. 156 00:04:37,176 --> 00:04:38,411 AND SHE IS A HARD-LINER, KNOWN 157 00:04:38,478 --> 00:04:39,912 FOR BOTH HER ANTI-IMMIGRATION 158 00:04:39,979 --> 00:04:41,481 STANCES, AND STATEMENTS LIKE 159 00:04:41,547 --> 00:04:43,116 THIS, ON UK WELFARE RECIPIENTS. 160 00:04:43,182 --> 00:04:44,884 >> THERE IS STILL A STUBBORN 161 00:04:44,951 --> 00:04:46,419 CORE OF OUR POPULATION THAT SEES 162 00:04:46,486 --> 00:04:48,821 WELFARE AS THE GO-TO OPTION AND 163 00:04:48,888 --> 00:04:50,556 IS NOT MOTIVATED FOR FINANCIAL 164 00:04:50,623 --> 00:04:51,357 OR OTHER REASONS TO GET OUT 165 00:04:51,424 --> 00:04:53,559 THERE AND WORK. 166 00:04:53,626 --> 00:04:55,028 AND I THINK THE STICK -- WE'VE 167 00:04:55,094 --> 00:04:56,596 GOT WE'VE GOT LOTS OF CARROTS, 168 00:04:56,663 --> 00:04:58,197 WE'VE GOT LOTS OF CARROTS TO GET 169 00:04:58,264 --> 00:04:58,798 PEOPLE INTO WORK -- BUT WE'VE 170 00:04:58,865 --> 00:05:00,700 GOT TO ACTUALLY ADD MORE 171 00:05:00,767 --> 00:05:02,702 CONDITIONALITY TO THE WAY WE 172 00:05:02,769 --> 00:05:03,603 ADMINISTER WELFARE AND MORE -- A 173 00:05:03,670 --> 00:05:06,239 BIT MORE STICK TO ENSURE THAT IT 174 00:05:06,305 --> 00:05:07,206 ACTUALLY PAYS FOR PEOPLE TO GET 175 00:05:07,273 --> 00:05:07,740 OFF WELFARE. 176 00:05:07,807 --> 00:05:08,975 >> John: WOW. 177 00:05:09,042 --> 00:05:11,310 THERE'S SO MUCH WRONG WITH THAT, 178 00:05:11,377 --> 00:05:12,845 BUT IF YOU WANT A PORTION OF THE 179 00:05:12,912 --> 00:05:14,747 POPULATION TO BELIEVE YOU 180 00:05:14,814 --> 00:05:17,250 RESPECT THEM, MAYBE DON'T REFER 181 00:05:17,316 --> 00:05:18,117 TO THEM AS HORSES. 182 00:05:18,184 --> 00:05:18,851 AND THAT'S COMING FROM ME, 183 00:05:18,918 --> 00:05:20,453 SOMEONE WHO, ARGUABLY, RESPECTS 184 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,922 HORSES TOO MUCH. 185 00:05:22,989 --> 00:05:24,157 I JUST WANT TO MAKE YOU FEEL 186 00:05:24,223 --> 00:05:25,658 GOOD. 187 00:05:25,725 --> 00:05:27,627 BUT ULTIMATELY, SUNAK'S 188 00:05:27,694 --> 00:05:28,394 INCREDIBLY LUCKY THAT HE'S 189 00:05:28,461 --> 00:05:29,095 FOLLOWING LIZ TRUSS. 190 00:05:29,162 --> 00:05:31,464 BECAUSE THE BAR IS SO LOW. 191 00:05:31,531 --> 00:05:32,999 ALL HE REALLY HAS TO DO IS NOT 192 00:05:33,066 --> 00:05:34,067 PERSONALLY THROW THE ECONOMY 193 00:05:34,133 --> 00:05:35,234 INTO A TAILSPIN, AND DELIVER A 194 00:05:35,301 --> 00:05:37,036 SPEECH WITHOUT LEAVING A WEIRD 195 00:05:37,103 --> 00:05:38,204 PAUSE FOR CLAPTER AFTER SAYING 196 00:05:38,271 --> 00:05:39,672 "PORK MARKETS." 197 00:05:39,739 --> 00:05:41,207 BUT HE'S NOT EVEN OFF TO A GOOD 198 00:05:41,274 --> 00:05:42,508 START THERE, BECAUSE THIS WAS 199 00:05:42,575 --> 00:05:43,943 HOW HE ENDED HIS FIRST PUBLIC 200 00:05:44,010 --> 00:05:45,278 ADDRESS. 201 00:05:45,344 --> 00:05:48,114 >> I WILL WORK DAY-IN, DAY-OUT, 202 00:05:48,181 --> 00:05:49,782 TO DELIVER FOR THE BRITISH 203 00:05:49,849 --> 00:05:57,824 PEOPLE. 204 00:05:57,890 --> 00:05:58,257 [LAUGHTER] 205 00:05:58,324 --> 00:06:00,426 >> John: WHAT ARE YOU DOING? 206 00:06:00,493 --> 00:06:01,027 HE LOOKS LIKE HE WAS READING A 207 00:06:01,094 --> 00:06:02,395 TELEPROMPTER THAT MALFUNCTIONED 208 00:06:02,462 --> 00:06:03,696 BY REPLACING HIS SPEECH WITH THE 209 00:06:03,763 --> 00:06:04,664 COMMAND "HAVE A PANIC ATTACK, 210 00:06:04,731 --> 00:06:06,632 NOW." 211 00:06:06,699 --> 00:06:08,201 DESPITE SUNAK'S MANY 212 00:06:08,267 --> 00:06:11,704 SHORTCOMINGS, HE'LL PROBABLY 213 00:06:11,771 --> 00:06:12,271 LAST LONGER THAN LIZ TRUSS. 214 00:06:12,338 --> 00:06:12,905 BUT MAYBE NOT MUCH LONGER. 215 00:06:12,972 --> 00:06:14,173 BECAUSE THE BRITISH PEOPLE ARE 216 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:15,541 JUSTIFIABLY -- TO QUOTE MY NEW 217 00:06:15,608 --> 00:06:16,976 FAVORITE BROADCASTER -- "FUCKING 218 00:06:17,043 --> 00:06:18,211 FURIOUS AND THEY DON'T FUCKING 219 00:06:18,277 --> 00:06:19,645 CARE ANYMORE." 220 00:06:19,712 --> 00:06:21,347 AND NOW THIS. 221 00:06:21,414 --> 00:06:24,083 >> Announcer: AND NOW, 222 00:06:24,150 --> 00:06:25,752 UNNECESSARY FULL DISCLOSURE. 223 00:06:25,818 --> 00:06:27,053 >> FULL DISCLOSURE, I'M NOT A 224 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:28,454 FINANCE GUY. 225 00:06:28,521 --> 00:06:29,822 HAVEN'T STUDIED IT, DON'T 226 00:06:29,889 --> 00:06:30,757 MUCH UNDERSTAND IT. 227 00:06:30,823 --> 00:06:32,725 >> FULL DISCLOSURE, I WAS A VERY 228 00:06:32,792 --> 00:06:34,961 AMATEUR NATIONAL ANTHEM SINGER. 229 00:06:35,027 --> 00:06:36,863 >> FULL DISCLOSURE, I WAS A 230 00:06:36,929 --> 00:06:40,600 WAITER AT THE OLIVE GARDEN. 231 00:06:40,666 --> 00:06:41,701 >> FULL DISCLOSURE, I'VE ALWAYS 232 00:06:41,768 --> 00:06:43,636 WANTED A BOSTON WHALER. 233 00:06:43,703 --> 00:06:45,538 >> FULL DISCLOSURE, I HAD A QTIP 234 00:06:45,605 --> 00:06:46,572 IN MY EAR LAST NIGHT. 235 00:06:46,639 --> 00:06:52,378 >> FULL DISCLOSURE, THE OYSTERS 236 00:06:52,445 --> 00:06:56,749 WERE NOT FROM THE EAST RIVER. 237 00:06:56,816 --> 00:06:57,416 >> FULL DISCLOSURE, I'M A COOKIE 238 00:06:57,483 --> 00:06:58,351 GUY. 239 00:06:58,417 --> 00:07:00,620 >> FULL DISCLOSURE, GO GATERS. 240 00:07:00,686 --> 00:07:02,755 >> FULL DISCLOSURE, NOT THE BEST 241 00:07:02,822 --> 00:07:04,090 JOB I'VE HAD. 242 00:07:04,157 --> 00:07:05,858 >> FULL DISCLOSURE, THERE'S AN 243 00:07:05,925 --> 00:07:07,426 ACTION FIGURE OF ME IN MY OFFICE 244 00:07:07,493 --> 00:07:10,930 MADE OUT OF FONDANT. 245 00:07:10,997 --> 00:07:12,899 ♪ ♪ 246 00:07:12,965 --> 00:07:13,232 [LAUGHTER] 247 00:07:13,299 --> 00:07:13,666 >> John: MOVING ON. 248 00:07:13,733 --> 00:07:14,300 OUR MAIN STORY TONIGHT CONCERNS 249 00:07:14,367 --> 00:07:15,601 CRIME. 250 00:07:15,668 --> 00:07:16,369 BATMAN'S ADVERSARY, AND ALSO, 251 00:07:16,435 --> 00:07:19,071 HIS KINK. 252 00:07:19,138 --> 00:07:22,175 YOU THINK SOMEONE DRESSES IN A 253 00:07:22,241 --> 00:07:22,708 RUBBER SUIT JUST TO AVENGE 254 00:07:22,775 --> 00:07:23,042 THEIR PARENTS? 255 00:07:23,109 --> 00:07:23,676 HE'S A FURRY WITH A GADGET BELT. 256 00:07:23,743 --> 00:07:25,478 GROW UP. 257 00:07:25,545 --> 00:07:26,579 WITH THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS FAST 258 00:07:26,646 --> 00:07:27,947 APPROACHING, "TOUGH ON CRIME" 259 00:07:28,014 --> 00:07:29,148 RHETORIC HAS BEEN A KEY FEATURE 260 00:07:29,215 --> 00:07:30,817 OF REPUBLICAN ATTACK ADS, OFTEN 261 00:07:30,883 --> 00:07:31,918 HIGHLIGHTING ONE POLICY IN 262 00:07:31,984 --> 00:07:34,821 PARTICULAR: BAIL REFORM. 263 00:07:34,887 --> 00:07:36,622 >> DO YOU FEEL SAFE? 264 00:07:36,689 --> 00:07:38,658 MANDELA BARNES WOULD ELIMINATE 265 00:07:38,724 --> 00:07:40,259 CASH BAIL, SETTING ACCUSED 266 00:07:40,326 --> 00:07:41,260 CRIMINALS FREE INTO THE 267 00:07:41,327 --> 00:07:42,895 COMMUNITY BEFORE TRIAL. 268 00:07:42,962 --> 00:07:44,897 >> LANDSMAN WANTS TO END CASH 269 00:07:44,964 --> 00:07:46,265 BAIL, PUTTING DANGEROUS 270 00:07:46,332 --> 00:07:47,300 CRIMINALS BACK ON THE STREETS. 271 00:07:47,366 --> 00:07:49,569 >> BEASLEY SUPPORTS ENDING CASH 272 00:07:49,635 --> 00:07:50,236 BAIL, LETTING CRIMINALS OUT OF 273 00:07:50,303 --> 00:07:55,675 JAIL. 274 00:07:55,741 --> 00:07:57,577 >> USING CASHLESS BAILS AND HIS 275 00:07:57,643 --> 00:08:00,513 OWN LAWLESS POLICIES, HE PUT 276 00:08:00,580 --> 00:08:02,248 CRIMINALS BACK ON THE STREETS 277 00:08:02,315 --> 00:08:02,849 AND TURNED NEIGHBORHOODS INTO 278 00:08:02,915 --> 00:08:03,616 DANGER ZONES. 279 00:08:03,683 --> 00:08:04,116 >> John: OKAY, OF COURSE 280 00:08:04,183 --> 00:08:04,750 EVERYTHING SEEMS SCARIER IF YOU 281 00:08:04,817 --> 00:08:05,318 END IT WITH A SHOT OF A BODY 282 00:08:05,384 --> 00:08:06,552 BAG. 283 00:08:06,619 --> 00:08:07,486 FOR INSTANCE, DOC MCSTUFFINS? 284 00:08:07,553 --> 00:08:08,321 NOT A SCARY SHOW. 285 00:08:08,387 --> 00:08:09,989 BUT IF THEY DID AN EPISODE SET 286 00:08:10,056 --> 00:08:11,757 IN THE MCSTUFFINS MORGUE, YOUR 287 00:08:11,824 --> 00:08:12,358 KID'S GOING TO HAVE NIGHTMARES 288 00:08:12,425 --> 00:08:14,293 FOR A WHILE. 289 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:15,194 THESE ATTACK ADS COME AT A 290 00:08:15,261 --> 00:08:16,295 CRITICAL JUNCTURE FOR THE 291 00:08:16,362 --> 00:08:17,763 MOVEMENT TO REDUCE THE USE OF 292 00:08:17,830 --> 00:08:18,998 CASH BAIL. 293 00:08:19,065 --> 00:08:20,733 BECAUSE SINCE 2011 AT LEAST 19 294 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:22,902 STATES AND DOZENS OF LOCAL 295 00:08:22,969 --> 00:08:24,403 JURISDICTIONS HAVE ADOPTED 296 00:08:24,470 --> 00:08:26,739 BAIL-REFORM POLICIES. 297 00:08:26,806 --> 00:08:28,674 BUT MANY PLACES HAVE RECENTLY 298 00:08:28,741 --> 00:08:31,077 BEGUN ROLLING BACK THOSE REFORMS 299 00:08:31,143 --> 00:08:31,777 BECAUSE AMID THE RECENT SPIKE 300 00:08:31,844 --> 00:08:33,246 IN CERTAIN CATEGORIES OF CRIME, 301 00:08:33,312 --> 00:08:35,214 CRITICS ARE POINTING AT BAIL 302 00:08:35,281 --> 00:08:36,682 REFORM AS THE MAJOR CAUSE OF IT. 303 00:08:36,749 --> 00:08:39,886 >> LIBERAL LAWMAKERS ENDED THE 304 00:08:39,952 --> 00:08:41,654 BAIL FOR MOST OFFENSES. 305 00:08:41,721 --> 00:08:42,321 THEY CREATED A REVOLVING DOOR OF 306 00:08:42,388 --> 00:08:43,389 CRIMINALITY. 307 00:08:43,456 --> 00:08:45,391 >> IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO GET 308 00:08:45,458 --> 00:08:47,693 ARRESTED AND THEN PUT IN JAIL 309 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,028 UNLESS YOU KILL SOMEBODY. 310 00:08:49,095 --> 00:08:50,796 >> IT IS BAFFLING TO ME THAT WE 311 00:08:50,863 --> 00:08:52,365 HAVE POLITICIANS THAT AREN'T 312 00:08:52,431 --> 00:08:55,301 SUPPORTING POLICIES THAT ARE 313 00:08:55,368 --> 00:08:57,003 GONNA MAKE THINGS BETTER. 314 00:08:57,069 --> 00:08:57,536 IN FACT, THEY'RE DOING THE 315 00:08:57,603 --> 00:08:58,137 OPPOSITE, AND STILL SUPPORTING 316 00:08:58,204 --> 00:08:58,738 BAIL REFORM AND DEFUNDING THE 317 00:08:58,804 --> 00:08:59,238 POLICE. 318 00:08:59,305 --> 00:09:00,773 >> THERE'S A CORRELATION BETWEEN 319 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:02,575 THE BAIL REFORM AND WHAT'S 320 00:09:02,642 --> 00:09:05,411 HAPPENING IN OUR CITY. 321 00:09:05,478 --> 00:09:06,779 >> IT SEEMS SO CLEAR THAT IT IS, 322 00:09:06,846 --> 00:09:08,247 AND TO DESTROY THE COUNTRY'S 323 00:09:08,314 --> 00:09:10,283 FINEST POLICE DEPARTMENT IS A 324 00:09:10,349 --> 00:09:11,450 CRIME, I THINK, ON ITS OWN. 325 00:09:11,517 --> 00:09:12,251 >> John: WOW. 326 00:09:12,318 --> 00:09:13,486 I'M HONESTLY SURPRISED ANYTHING 327 00:09:13,552 --> 00:09:15,154 SEEMS CLEAR TO A MAN WITH 328 00:09:15,221 --> 00:09:16,689 RESTING CONCUSSION FACE. 329 00:09:16,756 --> 00:09:18,324 HE LOOKS LIKE HE'S STUDYING A 330 00:09:18,391 --> 00:09:20,559 FULL BODY MIRROR, DESPERATELY 331 00:09:20,626 --> 00:09:21,794 TRYING TO FIND HIS PENIS. 332 00:09:21,861 --> 00:09:23,062 IT'S TO THE POINT WHERE ANY 333 00:09:23,129 --> 00:09:24,864 CRIME MENTIONED ON FOX NEWS GETS 334 00:09:24,931 --> 00:09:27,400 LINKED TO BAIL REFORM, WHETHER 335 00:09:27,466 --> 00:09:28,668 IT'S RELEVANT OR NOT. 336 00:09:28,734 --> 00:09:30,536 EVEN AFTER NANCY PELOSI'S 337 00:09:30,603 --> 00:09:31,904 HUSBAND WAS ATTACKED WITH A 338 00:09:31,971 --> 00:09:33,205 HAMMER ON FRIDAY MORNING -- BY 339 00:09:33,272 --> 00:09:35,007 SOMEONE WHO WAS NOT OUT ON BAIL 340 00:09:35,074 --> 00:09:36,108 -- THEY HAD A REPUBLICAN 341 00:09:36,175 --> 00:09:37,810 CONGRESSMAN ON TO SAY THIS. 342 00:09:37,877 --> 00:09:39,011 >> WHEN YOU LET DANGEROUS 343 00:09:39,078 --> 00:09:41,981 CRIMINALS OUT ON THE STREETS 344 00:09:42,048 --> 00:09:44,083 WITH BAIL AND NOT PUT THEM IN 345 00:09:44,150 --> 00:09:47,219 PRISON, YOU'RE ASKING FOR THIS 346 00:09:47,286 --> 00:09:48,387 INCIDENT TO HAPPEN. 347 00:09:48,454 --> 00:09:50,823 >> John: NOW HE'S WRONG ABOUT A 348 00:09:50,890 --> 00:09:51,424 FEW THINGS THERE -- AGAIN, THE 349 00:09:51,490 --> 00:09:52,959 SUSPECT WASN'T OUT ON BAIL. 350 00:09:53,025 --> 00:09:55,161 ALSO, NO ONE GETS BAILED OUT OF 351 00:09:55,227 --> 00:09:55,761 PRISON, THAT'S WHERE CONVICTED 352 00:09:55,828 --> 00:09:56,796 PEOPLE GO. 353 00:09:56,862 --> 00:09:58,331 AND FINALLY, CHOOSING A NARROW 354 00:09:58,397 --> 00:09:59,398 TIE KNOT WHEN YOUR HEAD'S THAT 355 00:09:59,465 --> 00:10:01,200 BIG MAKES IT LOOK LIKE A 356 00:10:01,267 --> 00:10:03,069 BIRTHDAY BALLOON SAILING OVER 357 00:10:03,135 --> 00:10:03,769 THE CAPITOL DOME. 358 00:10:03,836 --> 00:10:05,504 THAT'S THREE BIG MISTAKES FROM 359 00:10:05,571 --> 00:10:07,440 THAT VERY GRUMPY BALLOON. 360 00:10:07,506 --> 00:10:09,075 BUT GIVEN THAT YOU'RE HEARING 361 00:10:09,141 --> 00:10:09,976 MISLEADING ATTACKS LIKE THAT 362 00:10:10,042 --> 00:10:12,211 EVERYWHERE RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A 363 00:10:12,278 --> 00:10:13,412 REAL CHANCE OF ALL THE PROGRESS 364 00:10:13,479 --> 00:10:15,181 WE'VE MADE BEING UNDONE. 365 00:10:15,247 --> 00:10:16,549 SO TONIGHT, LET'S LOOK AT BAIL 366 00:10:16,615 --> 00:10:17,717 REFORM. 367 00:10:17,783 --> 00:10:20,186 AND THIS IS ACTUALLY OUR SECOND 368 00:10:20,252 --> 00:10:20,853 STORY ON BAIL, WE FIRST 369 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:21,620 COVERED IT BACK IN 2015. 370 00:10:21,687 --> 00:10:22,521 BUT MAYBE YOU DIDN'T SEE THAT 371 00:10:22,588 --> 00:10:24,123 EPISODE BECAUSE YOU WERE TOO 372 00:10:24,190 --> 00:10:25,758 BUSY WATCHING THE 69TH ANNUAL 373 00:10:25,825 --> 00:10:27,460 TONY AWARDS AIRING THE SAME 374 00:10:27,526 --> 00:10:28,761 NIGHT WHERE -- AND THIS IS TRUE 375 00:10:28,828 --> 00:10:30,062 -- KRISTIN CHENOWTH AND ALAN 376 00:10:30,129 --> 00:10:31,230 CUMMING OPENED THE SHOW BY 377 00:10:31,297 --> 00:10:32,565 HIGHLIGHTING ONE PARTICULAR 378 00:10:32,631 --> 00:10:34,800 CELEBRITY IN THE AUDIENCE. 379 00:10:34,867 --> 00:10:35,434 >> AND THE PRODUCER OF FINDING 380 00:10:35,501 --> 00:10:37,136 NEVERLAND: HARVEY WEINSTEIN. 381 00:10:37,203 --> 00:10:39,605 >> ♪ HEEEEERE! ♪ 382 00:10:39,672 --> 00:10:44,343 [APPLAUSE] 383 00:10:44,410 --> 00:10:46,779 ♪ SMILE THOUGH YOUR HEART IS 384 00:10:46,846 --> 00:10:47,446 ACHING ♪ 385 00:10:47,513 --> 00:10:49,415 ♪ SMILE EVEN THOUGH IT'S 386 00:10:49,482 --> 00:10:51,684 BREAKING ♪ 387 00:10:51,751 --> 00:10:53,753 ♪ YOU'LL FIND THAT LIFE IS STILL 388 00:10:53,819 --> 00:10:56,489 WORTHWHILE ♪ 389 00:10:56,555 --> 00:10:59,592 ♪ IF YOU JUST COUNT YOUR OVER A 390 00:10:59,658 --> 00:11:01,160 MILLION DOLLAR A WEEK BOX OFFICE 391 00:11:01,227 --> 00:11:02,328 RECEIPTS FOR THE LAST THREE 392 00:11:02,395 --> 00:11:04,430 MONTHS ♪ 393 00:11:04,497 --> 00:11:08,934 ♪ SMIIIILE! ♪ 394 00:11:09,001 --> 00:11:10,870 >> John: YEAH, MY POINT IS, IT'S 395 00:11:10,936 --> 00:11:13,773 BEEN A MINUTE SINCE THEN. 396 00:11:13,839 --> 00:11:15,708 SO IF YOU MISSED OUR FIRST 397 00:11:15,775 --> 00:11:17,176 STORY, HERE'S A BRIEF RECAP: IF 398 00:11:17,243 --> 00:11:18,778 YOU'RE ARRESTED, IN ORDER TO BE 399 00:11:18,844 --> 00:11:20,179 RELEASED AWAITING TRIAL, YOU'RE 400 00:11:20,246 --> 00:11:21,047 OFTEN REQUIRED TO LEAVE A 401 00:11:21,113 --> 00:11:22,148 CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY, OR 402 00:11:22,214 --> 00:11:23,849 "BAIL," WITH THE COURT, AS 403 00:11:23,916 --> 00:11:25,951 COLLATERAL, WITH THE IDEA THAT 404 00:11:26,018 --> 00:11:27,086 IT'LL ENSURE YOU RETURN. 405 00:11:27,153 --> 00:11:29,321 AND THERE ARE PLENTY OF ISSUES 406 00:11:29,388 --> 00:11:29,889 WITH THIS SYSTEM -- STARTING 407 00:11:29,955 --> 00:11:30,689 WITH THE FACT THAT BAIL HEARINGS 408 00:11:30,756 --> 00:11:32,992 CAN BE ARBITRARY, AT BEST. 409 00:11:33,059 --> 00:11:33,726 BECAUSE WHILE YOU MIGHT ASSUME A 410 00:11:33,793 --> 00:11:35,127 JUDGE WOULD CAREFULLY WEIGH 411 00:11:35,194 --> 00:11:36,362 SOMEONE'S CHARGES AND 412 00:11:36,429 --> 00:11:38,030 CIRCUMSTANCES TO DECIDE WHETHER 413 00:11:38,097 --> 00:11:39,131 THERE'S ANY REASON THEY 414 00:11:39,198 --> 00:11:40,699 SHOULDN'T BE RELEASED, THE 415 00:11:40,766 --> 00:11:42,501 REALITY CAN LOOK VERY DIFFERENT. 416 00:11:42,568 --> 00:11:43,669 TAKE THIS HEARING IN DALLAS. 417 00:11:43,736 --> 00:11:45,871 WE'RE GOING TO BLEEP THE 418 00:11:45,938 --> 00:11:47,006 PERSON'S LAST NAME, BUT I'M 419 00:11:47,073 --> 00:11:48,174 GOING TO SHOW YOU HER HEARING IN 420 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:49,475 ITS ENTIRETY. 421 00:11:49,542 --> 00:11:53,446 >> PENNY [BLEEP], YOU'RE HERE ON 422 00:11:53,512 --> 00:11:54,947 STATE JAIL FELONY, THEFT WITH 423 00:11:55,014 --> 00:11:55,915 PREVIOUS CONVICTION, BOND IS 424 00:11:55,981 --> 00:11:57,149 $5000. 425 00:11:57,216 --> 00:12:00,386 >> John: YEAH, THAT'S IT. 426 00:12:00,453 --> 00:12:02,488 I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT SHOULD 427 00:12:02,555 --> 00:12:03,122 TAKE TO PUT A PRICE ON SOMEONE'S 428 00:12:03,189 --> 00:12:04,590 FREEDOM, BUT IT PROBABLY 429 00:12:04,657 --> 00:12:05,825 SHOULDN'T FIT NEATLY INTO AN 430 00:12:05,891 --> 00:12:07,960 INSTAGRAM STORY. 431 00:12:08,027 --> 00:12:09,261 AND THAT'S NOT AN OUTLIER. 432 00:12:09,328 --> 00:12:10,696 OVERALL, IT'S COMMON FOR BAIL 433 00:12:10,763 --> 00:12:11,964 HEARINGS TO LAST ONLY A FEW 434 00:12:12,031 --> 00:12:13,466 MINUTES, WITH NO DEFENSE COUNSEL 435 00:12:13,532 --> 00:12:15,134 PRESENT. 436 00:12:15,201 --> 00:12:16,769 AND THEY CAN BE CONDUCTED WITH 437 00:12:16,836 --> 00:12:17,336 INCREDIBLE PETTINESS. 438 00:12:17,403 --> 00:12:19,038 JUST WATCH THIS HEARING FROM 439 00:12:19,105 --> 00:12:20,573 2016, IN HARRIS COUNTY, TEXAS, 440 00:12:20,639 --> 00:12:21,907 WHERE A WOMAN HAD BEEN CHARGED 441 00:12:21,974 --> 00:12:23,375 WITH A MISDEMEANOR OF POSSESSING 442 00:12:23,442 --> 00:12:25,644 LESS THAN TWO OUNCES OF 443 00:12:25,711 --> 00:12:26,545 MARIJUANA. 444 00:12:26,612 --> 00:12:27,446 >> THERE'S PROBABLE CAUSE. 445 00:12:27,513 --> 00:12:29,048 BOND IS $1000. 446 00:12:29,115 --> 00:12:30,883 ARE YOU REQUESTING A COURT 447 00:12:30,950 --> 00:12:32,885 APPOINTED LAWYER? 448 00:12:32,952 --> 00:12:35,154 >> I GUESS, SURE. 449 00:12:35,221 --> 00:12:36,956 >> GIVE ME A "YES" OR "NO." 450 00:12:37,022 --> 00:12:38,557 >> YEAH. 451 00:12:38,624 --> 00:12:40,126 >> GIVE ME A "YES" OR "NO." 452 00:12:40,192 --> 00:12:41,560 >> YEAH. 453 00:12:41,627 --> 00:12:43,429 >> I ASKED A QUESTION THAT CALLS 454 00:12:43,496 --> 00:12:44,597 FOR A "YES" OR A "NO," I DON'T 455 00:12:44,663 --> 00:12:45,231 EXPECT ANYTHING BUT A "YES" OR A 456 00:12:45,297 --> 00:12:46,532 "NO." 457 00:12:46,599 --> 00:12:48,067 NOT A MM-HMM, MAYBE SO, OR A 458 00:12:48,134 --> 00:12:48,601 YELL, OR ANYTHING ELSE -- 459 00:12:48,667 --> 00:12:49,869 >> I SAID "YEAH." 460 00:12:49,935 --> 00:12:50,503 >> OR SOMETHING -- I HEARD WHAT 461 00:12:50,569 --> 00:12:51,370 YOU SAID. 462 00:12:51,437 --> 00:12:53,472 YOUR BOND JUST WENT UP TO $2000. 463 00:12:53,539 --> 00:13:00,779 >> John: WOW. 464 00:13:00,846 --> 00:13:01,447 FIRST, FUCK OFF ALL THE WAY OFF. 465 00:13:01,514 --> 00:13:01,981 SECOND, "YEAH" MEANS YES. 466 00:13:02,047 --> 00:13:02,581 IT'S NOT LIKE SHE GAVE YOU A 467 00:13:02,648 --> 00:13:03,048 THUMBS UP AND WINKED. 468 00:13:03,115 --> 00:13:03,682 YOU KNEW WHAT SHE MEANT AND YOU 469 00:13:03,749 --> 00:13:04,817 JUST WANTED TO BE A DICK. 470 00:13:04,884 --> 00:13:06,519 AND IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD WHATEVER 471 00:13:06,585 --> 00:13:08,888 BAIL A SASSY JUDGE FELT LIKE 472 00:13:08,954 --> 00:13:10,322 DISHING OUT, YOU MIGHT BE FORCED 473 00:13:10,389 --> 00:13:11,157 TO TURN TO A BAIL BONDSMAN. 474 00:13:11,223 --> 00:13:13,058 THE WAY THEIR BUSINESS WORKS IS, 475 00:13:13,125 --> 00:13:14,293 THEY'LL POST YOUR BAIL FOR YOU, 476 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:15,761 IN EXCHANGE FOR A FEE THAT'S 477 00:13:15,828 --> 00:13:17,163 NORMALLY AROUND TEN PERCENT OF 478 00:13:17,229 --> 00:13:18,297 IT -- MONEY, BY THE WAY, YOU 479 00:13:18,364 --> 00:13:20,099 DON'T GET BACK, NO MATTER WHAT 480 00:13:20,166 --> 00:13:21,734 THE OUTCOME OF YOUR CASE. 481 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,068 IT'S A LUCRATIVE BUSINESS, WHICH 482 00:13:23,135 --> 00:13:25,304 RAKES IN ABOUT "$2 BILLION 483 00:13:25,371 --> 00:13:25,938 DOLLARS" PER YEAR, ALMOST NONE 484 00:13:26,005 --> 00:13:27,106 OF WHICH GOES INTO THEIR 485 00:13:27,173 --> 00:13:32,311 SPENDING ON ADS LIKE THESE. 486 00:13:32,378 --> 00:13:32,912 >> THEY SAY I BROKE THE LAW, 487 00:13:32,978 --> 00:13:33,379 POLICE ARE ON MY TAIL. 488 00:13:33,445 --> 00:13:33,946 LOOKS LIKE I'M GOING TO THE 489 00:13:34,013 --> 00:13:35,281 COUNTY JAIL. 490 00:13:35,347 --> 00:13:36,849 >> GOTTA GO, GOTTA GO, CALL 491 00:13:36,916 --> 00:13:38,284 GOTTA GO BAIL BONDS. 492 00:13:38,350 --> 00:13:38,918 >> BAD BOYS BAIL BONDS IS WHO I 493 00:13:38,984 --> 00:13:40,953 CALL, THEIR COURTESY AND SERVICE 494 00:13:41,020 --> 00:13:42,388 TOP THEM ALL, THEY WORKED IT ALL 495 00:13:42,454 --> 00:13:44,156 OUT WITH A CALL ON THE PHONE AND 496 00:13:44,223 --> 00:13:45,391 BEFORE I EVEN KNEW IT I WAS FREE 497 00:13:45,457 --> 00:13:48,160 TO ROAM. 498 00:13:48,227 --> 00:13:49,628 >> LIPSTICK BAIL BONDS! 499 00:13:49,695 --> 00:13:52,731 KISS JAIL GOODBYE! 500 00:13:52,798 --> 00:13:53,966 >> John: YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THE 501 00:13:54,033 --> 00:13:55,267 DIRECTION I WOULD'VE TAKEN FOR 502 00:13:55,334 --> 00:13:56,602 THE BARBIE MOVIE, BUT I TRUST 503 00:13:56,669 --> 00:13:58,437 GRETA GERWIG'S VISION. 504 00:13:58,504 --> 00:14:00,005 ALTHOUGH -- CREDIT TO ALL THREE 505 00:14:00,072 --> 00:14:02,007 SONGWRITERS THERE -- YOU CAN 506 00:14:02,074 --> 00:14:02,708 FIND THOSE TRACKS ON "NOW THAT'S 507 00:14:02,775 --> 00:14:04,210 WHAT I CALL SONGS WRITTEN BY THE 508 00:14:04,276 --> 00:14:05,444 NEPHEW OF A GUY WHO OWNS A BAIL 509 00:14:05,511 --> 00:14:09,148 BOND AGENCY VOLUME 25" BUT IF 510 00:14:09,215 --> 00:14:10,282 YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY A BAIL 511 00:14:10,349 --> 00:14:11,417 BONDSMAN TO GET YOU OUT, YOU ARE 512 00:14:11,483 --> 00:14:13,519 STUCK. 513 00:14:13,586 --> 00:14:14,787 AND MANY, MANY PEOPLE ARE IN 514 00:14:14,853 --> 00:14:19,425 THAT SITUATION, WHICH HAS LED TO 515 00:14:19,491 --> 00:14:20,326 A TRULY STAGGERING STATISTIC. 516 00:14:20,392 --> 00:14:20,960 >> THIS GRAPH SHOWS LOCAL JAIL 517 00:14:21,026 --> 00:14:22,361 INMATES IN THE UNITED STATES. 518 00:14:22,428 --> 00:14:23,796 IN THE PAST 20 YEARS, THAT 519 00:14:23,862 --> 00:14:25,397 POPULATION HAS SHOT WAY UP, AND 520 00:14:25,464 --> 00:14:26,799 THERE'S SOMETHING SURPRISING 521 00:14:26,865 --> 00:14:28,400 ABOUT THAT RISE. 522 00:14:28,467 --> 00:14:30,502 YOU CAN SEE IT ONLY IF YOU LOOK 523 00:14:30,569 --> 00:14:32,771 AT INMATES WITH CONVICTIONS. 524 00:14:32,838 --> 00:14:34,406 AROUND 1999 THAT POPULATION 525 00:14:34,473 --> 00:14:36,075 LEVELED OFF, MEANING MOST OF THE 526 00:14:36,141 --> 00:14:37,843 RISE CAME FROM THIS GROUP. 527 00:14:37,910 --> 00:14:39,812 NON-CONVICTED PRISONERS. 528 00:14:39,878 --> 00:14:41,347 EVERY DAY IN THE U.S. NEARLY 529 00:14:41,413 --> 00:14:43,649 HALF A MILLION PEOPLE SITTING IN 530 00:14:43,716 --> 00:14:45,251 LOCAL JAILS HAVEN'T BEEN 531 00:14:45,317 --> 00:14:46,719 CONVICTED OF ANYTHING. 532 00:14:46,785 --> 00:14:47,853 >> John: IT'S TRUE. 533 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:49,321 IN FACT, RIGHT NOW, ROUGHLY 534 00:14:49,388 --> 00:14:50,522 TWO-THIRDS OF OUR JAIL 535 00:14:50,589 --> 00:14:52,024 POPULATION ON ANY GIVEN DAY ARE 536 00:14:52,091 --> 00:14:53,125 PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T BEEN 537 00:14:53,192 --> 00:14:54,260 CONVICTED OF A CRIME. 538 00:14:54,326 --> 00:14:55,594 AND MOST OF THEM ARE THERE, 539 00:14:55,661 --> 00:14:56,328 BECAUSE THEY SIMPLY COULDN'T 540 00:14:56,395 --> 00:14:56,929 AFFORD TO BAIL THEMSELVES OUT. 541 00:14:56,996 --> 00:14:58,831 WHICH IS TERRIBLE. 542 00:14:58,897 --> 00:15:00,099 WE SHOULDN'T HOLD PEOPLE CAPTIVE 543 00:15:00,165 --> 00:15:01,433 IN SHITTY CONDITIONS SIMPLY 544 00:15:01,500 --> 00:15:03,902 BECAUSE THEY CAN'T BUY THEIR WAY 545 00:15:03,969 --> 00:15:05,804 OUT, THAT'S WHAT SPIRIT AIRLINES 546 00:15:05,871 --> 00:15:07,573 IS FOR. 547 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,475 WHAT ALL THIS MEANS IS THAT A 548 00:15:09,541 --> 00:15:10,276 SIMPLE ARREST -- EVEN FOR A 549 00:15:10,342 --> 00:15:12,077 CRIME YOU DIDN'T COMMIT -- CAN 550 00:15:12,144 --> 00:15:13,279 DESTROY YOUR LIFE. 551 00:15:13,345 --> 00:15:14,713 BECAUSE EVEN A SHORT AMOUNT OF 552 00:15:14,780 --> 00:15:17,149 TIME IN JAIL CAN TURN IT UPSIDE 553 00:15:17,216 --> 00:15:19,151 DOWN. 554 00:15:19,218 --> 00:15:19,685 AND IT'S OFTEN NOT A SHORT 555 00:15:19,752 --> 00:15:20,619 AMOUNT OF TIME. 556 00:15:20,686 --> 00:15:22,454 TAKE MARVIN MAYFIELD. 557 00:15:22,521 --> 00:15:24,023 HE WAS ARRESTED FOR A BURGLARY 558 00:15:24,089 --> 00:15:25,991 HE INSISTS HE DIDN'T COMMIT, AND 559 00:15:26,058 --> 00:15:26,659 GOT STUCK IN RIKERS FOR NEARLY A 560 00:15:26,725 --> 00:15:28,093 YEAR. 561 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:29,428 >> BEFORE YOU WENT IN, YOU -- 562 00:15:29,495 --> 00:15:30,963 YOU HAD STARTED A JOB -- 563 00:15:31,030 --> 00:15:31,864 >> MM-HM, HAD A CAR. 564 00:15:31,930 --> 00:15:33,365 >> YOU HAD SECURED IN A -- A 565 00:15:33,432 --> 00:15:33,999 PLACE, YOU HAD A CAR. 566 00:15:34,066 --> 00:15:34,700 >> RIGHT. 567 00:15:34,767 --> 00:15:36,168 >> WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL OF IT? 568 00:15:36,235 --> 00:15:37,636 >> ALL OF THOSE THINGS, MY JOB, 569 00:15:37,703 --> 00:15:39,338 MY CAR, AND MY PLACE, WERE ALL 570 00:15:39,405 --> 00:15:40,339 GONE AFTER 11 MONTHS. 571 00:15:40,406 --> 00:15:42,141 I COULDN'T HOLD ON TO IT. 572 00:15:42,207 --> 00:15:43,709 >> John: YEAH, HE WAS IN THERE 573 00:15:43,776 --> 00:15:45,277 FOR 11 MONTHS. 574 00:15:45,344 --> 00:15:46,712 AND OBVIOUSLY, NO JOB IS COOL 575 00:15:46,779 --> 00:15:48,380 WITH YOU JUST NOT SHOWING UP FOR 576 00:15:48,447 --> 00:15:49,515 ELEVEN MONTHS, UNLESS, OF 577 00:15:49,581 --> 00:15:52,418 COURSE, YOU'RE THIS LAZY BITCH. 578 00:15:52,484 --> 00:15:53,752 AND ALL THIS IS BEFORE YOU GET 579 00:15:53,819 --> 00:15:55,454 TO THE FACT THAT HOLDING SOMEONE 580 00:15:55,521 --> 00:15:56,989 PRETRIAL CAN GIVE A PROSECUTOR A 581 00:15:57,056 --> 00:15:58,390 HUGE AMOUNT OF LEVERAGE IN 582 00:15:58,457 --> 00:16:00,192 OBTAINING A GUILTY PLEA. 583 00:16:00,259 --> 00:16:01,660 AGAIN, MARVIN MAYFIELD MAINTAINS 584 00:16:01,727 --> 00:16:03,595 HE WAS INNOCENT, BUT HE PLED 585 00:16:03,662 --> 00:16:05,531 GUILTY ANYWAY, AND WHEN YOU HEAR 586 00:16:05,597 --> 00:16:08,200 HIM EXPLAIN WHY, IT MAKES SENSE. 587 00:16:08,267 --> 00:16:09,935 >> AFTER 11 MONTHS, THEY SAID 588 00:16:10,002 --> 00:16:12,071 THAT IF YOU PLEAD GUILTY TODAY, 589 00:16:12,137 --> 00:16:13,706 YOU GET TIME SERVED AND GO HOME. 590 00:16:13,772 --> 00:16:15,541 >> SO, YOUR OPTION WAS TO STAY 591 00:16:15,607 --> 00:16:16,675 IN AND -- AND FIGHT THIS CASE -- 592 00:16:16,742 --> 00:16:17,543 >> MMM-HM. 593 00:16:17,609 --> 00:16:19,111 >> OR YOU CAN GO HOME TODAY. 594 00:16:19,178 --> 00:16:20,813 >> OR I CAN GO HOME TODAY. 595 00:16:20,879 --> 00:16:22,848 BUT ANOTHER GUILTY PLEA, ANOTHER 596 00:16:22,915 --> 00:16:23,449 GUILTY PLEA TO A FELONY ON MY 597 00:16:23,515 --> 00:16:24,950 RECORD. 598 00:16:25,017 --> 00:16:27,820 THE WORST AND HARDEST BLOW OF 599 00:16:27,886 --> 00:16:28,787 EVERYTHING WAS TO PLEAD GUILTY 600 00:16:28,854 --> 00:16:30,356 TO SOMETHING I DIDN'T DO JUST TO 601 00:16:30,422 --> 00:16:33,659 STOP THAT SUFFERING. 602 00:16:33,726 --> 00:16:34,259 >> John: AND I GET THAT. 603 00:16:34,326 --> 00:16:35,994 IF I'D BEEN HELD IN RIKERS FOR 604 00:16:36,061 --> 00:16:36,829 11 MONTHS WITH NO TRIAL AND NO 605 00:16:36,895 --> 00:16:38,697 END IN SIGHT, I'D CONFESS TO 606 00:16:38,764 --> 00:16:39,732 ANYTHING IF IT MEANT GOING HOME. 607 00:16:39,798 --> 00:16:40,699 LINDBERGH BABY? 608 00:16:40,766 --> 00:16:41,433 SNATCHED IT. 609 00:16:41,500 --> 00:16:42,334 JFK? 610 00:16:42,401 --> 00:16:43,168 CAPPED HIM. 611 00:16:43,235 --> 00:16:44,036 ZODIAC KILLER? 612 00:16:44,103 --> 00:16:46,605 IT ME. 613 00:16:46,672 --> 00:16:47,806 JUST PLEASE LET ME GO HOME. 614 00:16:47,873 --> 00:16:49,074 AND YES, I CAN SEE IT, TOO. 615 00:16:49,141 --> 00:16:50,309 THERE IS A RESEMBLANCE. 616 00:16:50,376 --> 00:16:51,176 EXCEPT I'M KIDDING, I LOOK 617 00:16:51,243 --> 00:16:52,578 NOTHING LIKE THE ZODIAC KILLER. 618 00:16:52,644 --> 00:16:54,046 AND YOU'LL AGREE WITH THAT IF 619 00:16:54,113 --> 00:16:57,950 YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOOD FOR YOU. 620 00:16:58,016 --> 00:16:59,551 SO CASH BAIL IS ARBITRARY, 621 00:16:59,618 --> 00:17:01,920 DESTRUCTIVE, AND BASICALLY 622 00:17:01,987 --> 00:17:02,488 CRIMINALIZES POVERTY -- AND 623 00:17:02,554 --> 00:17:03,722 THAT'S WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE 624 00:17:03,789 --> 00:17:04,256 MASSIVE RACIAL DISPARITIES 625 00:17:04,323 --> 00:17:05,991 INVOLVED. 626 00:17:06,058 --> 00:17:07,359 AND WHEN YOU TAKE ALL THIS 627 00:17:07,426 --> 00:17:08,527 TOGETHER, YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHY 628 00:17:08,594 --> 00:17:10,429 SO MANY JURISDICTIONS PASSED 629 00:17:10,496 --> 00:17:11,797 SOME FORM OF BAIL REFORM OVER 630 00:17:11,864 --> 00:17:13,298 THE LAST FEW YEARS. 631 00:17:13,365 --> 00:17:16,101 AND NOTABLY, IN SOME PLACES, IT 632 00:17:16,168 --> 00:17:17,736 WAS DONE WITH BIPARTISAN SUPPORT 633 00:17:17,803 --> 00:17:18,604 IN 2014, NEW JERSEY PASSED A 634 00:17:18,670 --> 00:17:20,472 BILL THAT'S SINCE CUT THE NUMBER 635 00:17:20,539 --> 00:17:22,541 OF PEOPLE IN ITS JAILS BY HALF, 636 00:17:22,608 --> 00:17:24,376 AND IT WAS CHAMPIONED BY A 637 00:17:24,443 --> 00:17:25,911 SURPRISING FIGURE. 638 00:17:25,978 --> 00:17:27,546 >> NO LONGER MUST YOU STAY IN 639 00:17:27,613 --> 00:17:29,114 JAIL FOR MINOR OFFENSES, LONGER 640 00:17:29,181 --> 00:17:31,550 THAN YOU WOULD HAVE IF YOU'D 641 00:17:31,617 --> 00:17:33,485 ACTUALLY BEEN CONVICTED OF THE 642 00:17:33,552 --> 00:17:34,753 CRIME WHICH YOU'RE ACCUSED OF 643 00:17:34,820 --> 00:17:36,121 COMMITTING, JUST BECAUSE YOUR 644 00:17:36,188 --> 00:17:37,890 FAMILY DOESN'T HAVE $500 TO POST 645 00:17:37,956 --> 00:17:38,924 BAIL. 646 00:17:38,991 --> 00:17:41,360 >> John: YEAH, TO HIS CREDIT, 647 00:17:41,427 --> 00:17:42,361 CHRIS CHRISTIE SUPPORTED BAIL 648 00:17:42,428 --> 00:17:43,695 REFORM. 649 00:17:43,762 --> 00:17:45,364 AND REMEMBER, THIS IS THE SAME 650 00:17:45,431 --> 00:17:46,098 CHRIS CHRISTIE WHO THOUGHT IT 651 00:17:46,165 --> 00:17:46,865 WAS A GOOD IDEA TO BE 652 00:17:46,932 --> 00:17:48,133 "PRO-TRAFFIC JAM," GOT 653 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:49,301 PHOTOGRAPHED ENJOYING A BEACH 654 00:17:49,368 --> 00:17:50,436 THAT HAD BEEN CLOSED TO THE 655 00:17:50,502 --> 00:17:52,337 PUBLIC BY A GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN, 656 00:17:52,404 --> 00:17:53,839 AND WAS THE FIRST MAJOR 657 00:17:53,906 --> 00:17:54,573 REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE TO ENDORSE 658 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,008 THIS HISTORIC WHOOPSIE. 659 00:17:56,074 --> 00:17:56,975 THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY HAS TO 660 00:17:57,042 --> 00:17:58,544 BE PRETTY FUCKING OBVIOUS IF 661 00:17:58,610 --> 00:18:01,447 EVEN CHRIS CHRISTIE CAN FIND IT. 662 00:18:01,513 --> 00:18:02,815 AND YET, IN MANY PLACES, THE 663 00:18:02,881 --> 00:18:04,283 BACKLASH TO THESE REFORMS HAS 664 00:18:04,349 --> 00:18:05,684 BEEN SWIFT, AND UGLY. 665 00:18:05,751 --> 00:18:07,653 AND IT ALWAYS TAKES THE SAME 666 00:18:07,719 --> 00:18:08,620 FORM YOU SAW EARLIER: 667 00:18:08,687 --> 00:18:09,955 FEARMONGERING ABOUT HOW 668 00:18:10,022 --> 00:18:11,590 REFORMING CASH BAIL MEANS 669 00:18:11,657 --> 00:18:13,258 VIOLENT CRIMINALS ARE GOING TO 670 00:18:13,325 --> 00:18:14,193 BE WANTONLY SET LOOSE ON THE 671 00:18:14,259 --> 00:18:15,494 STREETS TO REOFFEND. 672 00:18:15,561 --> 00:18:18,297 BUT EVERY PART OF THAT IS MUCH 673 00:18:18,363 --> 00:18:19,631 MORE COMPLICATED THAN IT SOUNDS. 674 00:18:19,698 --> 00:18:22,000 FOR STARTERS, A HUGE AMOUNT OF 675 00:18:22,067 --> 00:18:23,569 PEOPLE IN JAIL ARE STUCK THERE 676 00:18:23,635 --> 00:18:25,237 ON SIMPLE MISDEMEANORS OR 677 00:18:25,304 --> 00:18:26,205 NON-VIOLENT CHARGES. 678 00:18:26,271 --> 00:18:28,440 AND EVEN WHEN IT COMES TO 679 00:18:28,507 --> 00:18:29,708 VIOLENT FELONY CHARGES, THOSE 680 00:18:29,775 --> 00:18:31,410 HAPPEN ON A VERY BROAD SPECTRUM 681 00:18:31,477 --> 00:18:33,545 FROM MURDER TO SIMPLY BEING 682 00:18:33,612 --> 00:18:35,314 INVOLVED IN A FIGHT. 683 00:18:35,380 --> 00:18:36,348 AND IMPORTANTLY, BEING CHARGED 684 00:18:36,415 --> 00:18:37,583 WITH SOMETHING DOESN'T 685 00:18:37,649 --> 00:18:39,718 NECESSARILY MEAN YOU'RE GUILTY 686 00:18:39,785 --> 00:18:41,386 THAT'S FOR A TRIAL TO DECIDE. 687 00:18:41,453 --> 00:18:42,821 YET, TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE ONLY 688 00:18:42,888 --> 00:18:44,823 TOO HAPPY TO BLUR THE LINE 689 00:18:44,890 --> 00:18:45,257 BETWEEN "CHARGE" AND 690 00:18:45,324 --> 00:18:47,159 "CONVICTION." 691 00:18:47,226 --> 00:18:48,327 EARLIER THIS YEAR, CHICAGO MAYOR 692 00:18:48,393 --> 00:18:50,395 LORI LIGHTFOOT DID EXACTLY THAT, 693 00:18:50,462 --> 00:18:51,997 WHEN CRITICIZING PRETRIAL 694 00:18:52,064 --> 00:18:53,932 RELEASE PROGRAMS IN COOK COUNTY, 695 00:18:53,999 --> 00:18:57,002 WHICH IMPLEMENTED ITS BAIL 696 00:18:57,069 --> 00:18:57,569 REFORMS BACK IN 2017. 697 00:18:57,636 --> 00:18:58,537 >> THE MAYOR SAYING JUDGES 698 00:18:58,604 --> 00:19:00,506 SHOULD NOT ALLOW PEOPLE CHARGED 699 00:19:00,572 --> 00:19:01,740 WITH VIOLENT CRIMES TO WALK FREE 700 00:19:01,807 --> 00:19:03,509 ON BAIL OR ELECTRONIC 701 00:19:03,575 --> 00:19:04,643 MONITORING, BECAUSE IF THEY'RE 702 00:19:04,710 --> 00:19:06,945 CHARGED, THEY'RE GUILTY. 703 00:19:07,012 --> 00:19:07,980 >> WHEN THOSE CASE -- CHARGES 704 00:19:08,046 --> 00:19:09,348 ARE BROUGHT, THESE PEOPLE ARE 705 00:19:09,414 --> 00:19:11,817 GUILTY. 706 00:19:11,884 --> 00:19:13,085 AND OF COURSE, THEY'RE ENTITLED 707 00:19:13,151 --> 00:19:14,253 TO A PRESUMPTION OF INNOCENCE, 708 00:19:14,319 --> 00:19:16,021 OF COURSE THEY'RE ENTITLED TO 709 00:19:16,088 --> 00:19:18,390 THEIR DAY IN COURT, BUT 710 00:19:18,457 --> 00:19:19,525 RESIDENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY ARE 711 00:19:19,591 --> 00:19:21,627 ALSO ENTITLED TO SAFETY. 712 00:19:21,693 --> 00:19:23,262 >> John: WAIT, HOLD ON. 713 00:19:23,328 --> 00:19:26,031 YOU CAN'T SAY SOMEONE'S GUILTY 714 00:19:26,098 --> 00:19:26,732 AND THEN SAY THEY'RE ENTITLED 715 00:19:26,798 --> 00:19:27,933 TO A PRESUMPTION OF INNOCENCE. 716 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,536 THOSE TWO IDEAS CANNOT COEXIST. 717 00:19:30,602 --> 00:19:32,604 YOU CAN'T BE GUILTY AND INNOCENT 718 00:19:32,671 --> 00:19:33,572 AT THE SAME TIME JUST LIKE YOU 719 00:19:33,639 --> 00:19:35,507 CAN'T BE HUNGRY AND FULL OR TALL 720 00:19:35,574 --> 00:19:37,676 AND SHORT OR BRITISH AND HAPPY. 721 00:19:37,743 --> 00:19:42,314 IT'S ONE OR THE OTHER! 722 00:19:42,381 --> 00:19:42,881 BELIEVE ME! 723 00:19:42,948 --> 00:19:44,249 AND ILLINOIS' BAIL CONVERSATION 724 00:19:44,316 --> 00:19:45,350 HAS ONLY GOTTEN MORE HEATED, NOW 725 00:19:45,417 --> 00:19:47,319 A STATEWIDE LAW ELIMINATING THE 726 00:19:47,386 --> 00:19:48,954 USE OF CASH BAIL IS SET TO TAKE 727 00:19:49,021 --> 00:19:50,355 EFFECT IN JANUARY. 728 00:19:50,422 --> 00:19:50,989 REPUBLICANS HAVE CALLED IT "THE 729 00:19:51,056 --> 00:19:53,025 PURGE" LAW, AND HAVE ATTACKED IT 730 00:19:53,091 --> 00:19:55,093 IN SOME PRETTY GROSS WAYS, 731 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,095 INCLUDING THESE UNUSUAL MAILERS 732 00:19:57,162 --> 00:19:58,764 TO VOTERS. 733 00:19:58,830 --> 00:19:59,565 >> THE PAPERS, THEY'VE BEEN 734 00:19:59,631 --> 00:20:00,866 DELIVERED UNDER DIFFERENT NAMES, 735 00:20:00,933 --> 00:20:02,568 THIS ONE THE CHICAGO CITY WIRE. 736 00:20:02,634 --> 00:20:04,636 THEY ALL CLAIM TO HAVE REAL DATA 737 00:20:04,703 --> 00:20:06,838 AND REAL NEWS, BUT IT'S ALSO A 738 00:20:06,905 --> 00:20:08,273 CAMPAIGN MESSAGE, NOT A REAL 739 00:20:08,340 --> 00:20:09,708 NEWSPAPER. 740 00:20:09,775 --> 00:20:11,143 >> THERE ARE TWO PAGES OF PHOTOS 741 00:20:11,209 --> 00:20:13,879 OF MEN, MOSTLY BLACK AND LATINO, 742 00:20:13,946 --> 00:20:15,080 WHO, ACCORDING TO THE PAPER, 743 00:20:15,147 --> 00:20:17,482 WILL BE RELEASED ON BOND IN 744 00:20:17,549 --> 00:20:18,417 DUPAGE COUNTY. 745 00:20:18,483 --> 00:20:20,018 >> THE CONTROVERSIAL 746 00:20:20,085 --> 00:20:21,320 NEWSPAPER-LIKE MAILINGS ARE FROM 747 00:20:21,386 --> 00:20:23,188 REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST DAN PROFT 748 00:20:23,255 --> 00:20:25,324 WHO RUNS THE PEOPLE WHO PLAY BY 749 00:20:25,390 --> 00:20:26,425 THE RULES PAC. 750 00:20:26,491 --> 00:20:27,459 >> John: WOW. 751 00:20:27,526 --> 00:20:27,993 FIRST, THAT IS STRIKINGLY 752 00:20:28,060 --> 00:20:29,661 RACIST. 753 00:20:29,728 --> 00:20:30,796 AND SECOND, THOSE MAILERS WERE 754 00:20:30,862 --> 00:20:33,365 ABSOLUTE HORSESHIT. 755 00:20:33,432 --> 00:20:34,800 THEY STATED THE NEW LAW 756 00:20:34,866 --> 00:20:35,334 "MANDATES" MURDER SUSPECTS 757 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:36,735 AWAITING TRIAL BE RELEASED FROM 758 00:20:36,802 --> 00:20:38,770 JAIL, WHICH IT DOESN'T. 759 00:20:38,837 --> 00:20:40,405 THEY ALSO FEATURED A LIST OF 760 00:20:40,472 --> 00:20:41,039 CHARGES THAT THEY CLAIMED WERE 761 00:20:41,106 --> 00:20:42,274 "NON-DETAINABLE." 762 00:20:42,341 --> 00:20:43,842 BUT THE TRUTH IS THAT IN 763 00:20:43,909 --> 00:20:45,477 ILLINOIS, AS IN MOST PLACES THAT 764 00:20:45,544 --> 00:20:46,678 HAVE PASSED BAIL REFORM -- FOR 765 00:20:46,745 --> 00:20:48,880 SERIOUS AND VIOLENT CRIMES, 766 00:20:48,947 --> 00:20:51,283 SUSPECTS CAN STILL BE JAILED 767 00:20:51,350 --> 00:20:52,951 PRETRIAL IF THEY'RE CONSIDERED 768 00:20:53,018 --> 00:20:54,353 A PUBLIC SAFETY RISK, OR LIKELY 769 00:20:54,419 --> 00:20:57,456 TO FLEE. 770 00:20:57,522 --> 00:20:58,190 SO THOSE CLAIMS WERE BASICALLY 771 00:20:58,256 --> 00:20:59,691 THE MOST MISLEADING THING TO 772 00:20:59,758 --> 00:21:00,626 APPEAR IN NEWSPRINT SINCE THE 773 00:21:00,692 --> 00:21:01,193 IDEA THAT DAGWOOD COULD PULL 774 00:21:01,259 --> 00:21:01,727 BLONDIE. 775 00:21:01,793 --> 00:21:03,128 COME ON. 776 00:21:03,195 --> 00:21:05,230 LOOK AT HIM, THEN LOOK AT HER. 777 00:21:05,297 --> 00:21:06,999 THERE'S NO WAY. 778 00:21:07,065 --> 00:21:08,433 SHE'S A STONE COLD TEN AND 779 00:21:08,500 --> 00:21:09,334 DAGWOOD'S NOT EVEN A CATCH BY 780 00:21:09,401 --> 00:21:16,174 "FUNNY PAGES" STANDARDS. 781 00:21:16,241 --> 00:21:16,842 SHE MARRIED DOWN. 782 00:21:16,908 --> 00:21:17,509 AND TO SEE JUST HOW SUCCESSFULLY 783 00:21:17,576 --> 00:21:18,143 BAIL REFORM OPPONENTS CAN 784 00:21:18,210 --> 00:21:21,246 DEMAGOGUE THIS ISSUE, JUST LOOK 785 00:21:21,313 --> 00:21:21,647 HERE IN NEW YORK. 786 00:21:21,713 --> 00:21:22,247 THE BIG KOO-KOO CITY THAT GO 787 00:21:22,314 --> 00:21:24,616 HONK HONK. 788 00:21:24,683 --> 00:21:25,717 THIS STATE'S BAIL REFORM LAW 789 00:21:25,784 --> 00:21:27,953 TOOK EFFECT ON NEW YEAR'S DAY OF 790 00:21:28,020 --> 00:21:29,788 2020, AND JUST EIGHT DAYS LATER 791 00:21:29,855 --> 00:21:31,089 -- LONG BEFORE THERE WAS ANY 792 00:21:31,156 --> 00:21:33,492 DATA ON ITS IMPACTS -- STATE 793 00:21:33,558 --> 00:21:34,359 LEGISLATORS WERE OUT THERE 794 00:21:34,426 --> 00:21:35,694 TRYING TO GET IT REPEALED. 795 00:21:35,761 --> 00:21:37,429 >> I THINK PEOPLE ARE GETTING 796 00:21:37,496 --> 00:21:39,064 SCARED, I THINK PEOPLE ARE 797 00:21:39,131 --> 00:21:40,332 FEELING UNSAFE AND MORE UNSAFE 798 00:21:40,399 --> 00:21:41,466 AS EACH DAY GOES BY. 799 00:21:41,533 --> 00:21:43,368 >> WE'RE GOING TO HAMMER THIS -- 800 00:21:43,435 --> 00:21:44,169 I WANT TO BE CLEAR -- WE'RE 801 00:21:44,236 --> 00:21:46,438 GOING TO HAMMER THIS EVERY 802 00:21:46,505 --> 00:21:48,407 SINGLE DAY. 803 00:21:48,473 --> 00:21:50,042 WE'RE GOING TO MAKE 804 00:21:50,108 --> 00:21:51,209 THE POINT THIS IS WHAT THE 805 00:21:51,276 --> 00:21:53,045 PUBLIC CARES ABOUT. 806 00:21:53,111 --> 00:21:54,579 >> John: THAT WAS JUST EIGHT 807 00:21:54,646 --> 00:21:55,647 DAYS IN. 808 00:21:55,714 --> 00:21:57,149 SO UNLESS A TON OF PEOPLE CHOSE 809 00:21:57,215 --> 00:21:59,017 THE NEW YEAR'S RESOLUTION "BE 810 00:21:59,084 --> 00:22:01,620 SCARED OF BAIL REFORM," AND THEY 811 00:22:01,687 --> 00:22:03,155 ACTUALLY STUCK WITH IT PAST 812 00:22:03,221 --> 00:22:04,990 JANUARY 3RD -- TWO EQUALLY 813 00:22:05,057 --> 00:22:07,092 UNREALISTIC SCENARIOS -- I'M 814 00:22:07,159 --> 00:22:10,362 PRETTY SURE SUFFOLK COUNTY KYLE 815 00:22:10,429 --> 00:22:10,929 MACLACHLAN HERE IS HAMMERING 816 00:22:10,996 --> 00:22:11,997 AWAY AT THIN AIR. 817 00:22:12,064 --> 00:22:16,101 AND THE THING IS, VIOLENT CRIME 818 00:22:16,168 --> 00:22:16,868 DID RISE IN NEW YORK IN 2020 -- 819 00:22:16,935 --> 00:22:17,936 JUST LIKE IT DID EVERYWHERE ELSE 820 00:22:18,003 --> 00:22:19,171 IN AMERICA, BOTH IN PLACES THAT 821 00:22:19,237 --> 00:22:20,505 PASSED BAIL REFORM, AND IN 822 00:22:20,572 --> 00:22:21,907 PLACES THAT DIDN'T. 823 00:22:21,973 --> 00:22:24,009 AND YET, THE NYPD RELENTLESSLY 824 00:22:24,076 --> 00:22:26,478 LABELED BAIL REFORM THE CAUSE. 825 00:22:26,545 --> 00:22:27,546 ITS THEN-COMMISSIONER, DERMOT 826 00:22:27,612 --> 00:22:28,914 SHEA, REPEATEDLY TOOK TO THE 827 00:22:28,980 --> 00:22:30,348 PRESS TO LABEL IT A MAJOR REASON 828 00:22:30,415 --> 00:22:31,516 FOR INCREASES IN CRIME AND GUN 829 00:22:31,583 --> 00:22:33,452 VIOLENCE. 830 00:22:33,518 --> 00:22:34,853 BUT WHEN THE NEW YORK POST 831 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:36,888 CHECKED THOSE CLAIMS, USING THE 832 00:22:36,955 --> 00:22:38,090 NYPD'S OWN DATA, THEY FOUND THAT 833 00:22:38,156 --> 00:22:39,224 IN THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF 2020, 834 00:22:39,291 --> 00:22:41,760 OUT OF 528 SHOOTING INCIDENTS, 835 00:22:41,827 --> 00:22:43,995 EXACTLY ONE HAD BEEN COMMITTED 836 00:22:44,062 --> 00:22:45,263 BY SOMEONE RELEASED UNDER BAIL 837 00:22:45,330 --> 00:22:46,198 REFORM. 838 00:22:46,264 --> 00:22:47,833 AND THAT WASN'T THE ONLY TIME 839 00:22:47,899 --> 00:22:48,467 SHEA WAS MISLEADING. 840 00:22:48,533 --> 00:22:50,435 HE ALSO WENT ON A LOCAL MORNING 841 00:22:50,502 --> 00:22:52,037 SHOW TO SUGGEST THE SUSPECT IN A 842 00:22:52,104 --> 00:22:54,239 PURSE SNATCHING WAS OUT ON BAIL. 843 00:22:54,306 --> 00:22:56,441 >> HE HAS 11 OPEN COURT CASES 844 00:22:56,508 --> 00:22:57,042 RIGHT NOW. 845 00:22:57,109 --> 00:23:01,113 THINK ABOUT THAT. 846 00:23:01,179 --> 00:23:02,047 >> HOW IS THIS ALLOWED TO -- HOW 847 00:23:02,114 --> 00:23:02,981 IS THIS ALLOWED TO CONTINUE TO 848 00:23:03,048 --> 00:23:05,417 FOSTER LIKE THIS? 849 00:23:05,484 --> 00:23:07,052 >> ONE SIDE WILL SAY AS LONG AS 850 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:08,887 HE SHOWS UP AT COURT THEN 851 00:23:08,954 --> 00:23:11,490 EVERYTHING IS WORKING WELL AND I 852 00:23:11,556 --> 00:23:13,425 WOULD -- I WOULD SAY THAT 853 00:23:13,492 --> 00:23:14,559 EVERYTHING IS NOT WORKING WELL. 854 00:23:14,626 --> 00:23:16,027 >> 11 OPEN COURT CASES IS 855 00:23:16,094 --> 00:23:17,829 SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO 856 00:23:17,896 --> 00:23:18,697 DEAL WITH, SOMEONE YOU WOULDN'T 857 00:23:18,764 --> 00:23:19,197 WANT TO ENCOUNTER ON THE 858 00:23:19,264 --> 00:23:20,165 STREETS. 859 00:23:20,232 --> 00:23:22,100 >> John: NOW THAT MIGHT SOUND 860 00:23:22,167 --> 00:23:22,400 SCARY. 861 00:23:22,467 --> 00:23:23,268 BUT I'VE GOT SOME GOOD NEWS, 862 00:23:23,335 --> 00:23:24,636 THEY FOUND THAT GUY WITH 11 OPEN 863 00:23:24,703 --> 00:23:25,737 CASES. 864 00:23:25,804 --> 00:23:27,072 IT WAS PRETTY EASY, BECAUSE IT 865 00:23:27,139 --> 00:23:28,640 TURNS OUT, HE WAS ALREADY LOCKED 866 00:23:28,707 --> 00:23:29,841 UP IN RIKERS AT THE TIME THE 867 00:23:29,908 --> 00:23:31,076 CRIME TOOK PLACE. 868 00:23:31,143 --> 00:23:32,544 SO SHEA ACCUSED THE WRONG GUY 869 00:23:32,611 --> 00:23:33,245 ENTIRELY. 870 00:23:33,311 --> 00:23:34,613 BUT I'M SURE NEW YORK SLEPT MUCH 871 00:23:34,679 --> 00:23:36,648 SAFER KNOWING THAT THAT GUY WAS 872 00:23:36,715 --> 00:23:38,083 SAFELY BEHIND THE SAME BARS HE 873 00:23:38,150 --> 00:23:40,786 WAS ALREADY BEHIND BEFORE. 874 00:23:40,852 --> 00:23:43,155 JUST TWO DAYS AFTER THAT, SHEA 875 00:23:43,221 --> 00:23:44,189 HAD TO APPEAR BEFORE THE STATE 876 00:23:44,256 --> 00:23:44,656 LEGISLATURE. 877 00:23:44,723 --> 00:23:46,324 AND INTERESTINGLY, ALL THE 878 00:23:46,391 --> 00:23:48,460 FEARMONGERING AND BLUSTER HE'D 879 00:23:48,527 --> 00:23:49,828 SPREAD ON NEWSPAPERS AND TV 880 00:23:49,895 --> 00:23:51,696 COMPLETELY COLLAPSED IN A FORUM 881 00:23:51,763 --> 00:23:53,365 WHERE HE WAS EXPECTED TO ANSWER 882 00:23:53,431 --> 00:23:56,134 HONESTLY. 883 00:23:56,201 --> 00:23:58,303 >> WERE THERE PEOPLE OUT WHO -- 884 00:23:58,370 --> 00:23:59,471 WHO, YOU KNOW, WITH NO BAIL FOR 885 00:23:59,538 --> 00:24:01,506 EXAMPLE OR BAIL BEING SET AND 886 00:24:01,573 --> 00:24:02,908 THEY MADE BAIL -- I DON'T KNOW 887 00:24:02,974 --> 00:24:04,776 -- AND THEN COMMITTED ANOTHER 888 00:24:04,843 --> 00:24:06,645 SHOOTING AND WERE ARRESTED AGAIN 889 00:24:06,711 --> 00:24:08,046 FOR BASICALLY THE SAME CRIME? 890 00:24:08,113 --> 00:24:09,481 >> WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHO WE 891 00:24:09,548 --> 00:24:10,782 ARREST FOR CRIMES, IT'S GOING TO 892 00:24:10,849 --> 00:24:11,683 BE SMALL NUMBERS. 893 00:24:11,750 --> 00:24:13,785 WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ENTIRETY OF 894 00:24:13,852 --> 00:24:15,153 HOW MANY SHOOTING ARRESTS WE 895 00:24:15,220 --> 00:24:17,189 MAKE AND THE PERCENTAGE, IT'S 896 00:24:17,255 --> 00:24:18,890 NOT DRAMATIC. 897 00:24:18,957 --> 00:24:19,724 >> John: I'M SORRY -- "THE 898 00:24:19,791 --> 00:24:22,060 PERCENTAGE IS NOT DRAMATIC?" 899 00:24:22,127 --> 00:24:23,328 YOU WERE CONSTANTLY CLAIMING 900 00:24:23,395 --> 00:24:24,296 BAIL REFORM WAS DRIVING UP 901 00:24:24,362 --> 00:24:24,963 SHOOTINGS. 902 00:24:25,030 --> 00:24:26,398 THERE ARE HERMITS ON 903 00:24:26,464 --> 00:24:27,432 MOUNTAINTOPS WHO KNOW EXACTLY 904 00:24:27,499 --> 00:24:29,734 TWO THINGS: ALL OF REALITY IS 905 00:24:29,801 --> 00:24:31,069 BUT THE BRIEF DANCE OF LIGHT 906 00:24:31,136 --> 00:24:32,571 ACROSS THE WATER'S SURFACE, AND 907 00:24:32,637 --> 00:24:35,106 DERMOT SHEA SAYS BAIL REFORM IS 908 00:24:35,173 --> 00:24:36,575 RESPONSIBLE FOR THE RISE IN 909 00:24:36,641 --> 00:24:37,676 CRIME IN NEW YORK. 910 00:24:37,742 --> 00:24:39,811 YOU'D THINK HE'D BE EMBARRASSED 911 00:24:39,878 --> 00:24:40,812 BY BEING FORCED TO ADMIT "THE 912 00:24:40,879 --> 00:24:41,980 PERCENTAGE IS NOT DRAMATIC." 913 00:24:42,047 --> 00:24:44,282 BUT JUST TWO MONTHS LATER, HE 914 00:24:44,349 --> 00:24:46,651 WAS BACK ON TV, SAYING THIS. 915 00:24:46,718 --> 00:24:48,887 >> IS BAIL REFORM WHAT'S LEADING 916 00:24:48,954 --> 00:24:51,356 TO MORE SHOOTINGS -- 917 00:24:51,423 --> 00:24:52,791 >> 100%. 918 00:24:52,858 --> 00:24:56,795 >> AND MORE GUN POSSESSIONS 919 00:24:56,862 --> 00:24:59,197 HAPPENING ON THE STREETS -- 920 00:24:59,264 --> 00:25:02,167 >> 100%. 921 00:25:02,234 --> 00:25:03,768 100%. 922 00:25:03,835 --> 00:25:04,169 THERE IS NO DOUBT. 923 00:25:04,236 --> 00:25:04,736 >> John: WELL, WHICH IS IT, 924 00:25:04,803 --> 00:25:04,970 DERMOT? 925 00:25:05,036 --> 00:25:05,604 ARE THE NUMBERS "NOT DRAMATIC?" 926 00:25:05,670 --> 00:25:06,238 OR IS BAIL REFORM "100 PERCENT" 927 00:25:06,304 --> 00:25:06,771 LEADING TO MORE SHOOTINGS? 928 00:25:06,838 --> 00:25:07,272 BECAUSE THOSE THINGS ARE 929 00:25:07,339 --> 00:25:07,706 MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE. 930 00:25:07,772 --> 00:25:08,240 THE ONLY PLACE WHERE "NOT 931 00:25:08,306 --> 00:25:08,840 DRAMATIC" AND "100%" CAN EXIST 932 00:25:08,907 --> 00:25:10,976 AT THE SAME TIME IS IN KRISTEN 933 00:25:11,042 --> 00:25:12,577 STEWART'S WHOLE GENERAL VIBE. 934 00:25:12,644 --> 00:25:13,511 SHE'S GIVING IT HER ALL. 935 00:25:13,578 --> 00:25:14,379 BUT SHE'S ALSO GIVING US 936 00:25:14,446 --> 00:25:20,518 NOTHING. 937 00:25:20,585 --> 00:25:20,986 IT'S TOTALLY AMAZING. 938 00:25:21,052 --> 00:25:21,620 AND THE PROBLEM IS, ALL OF THIS 939 00:25:21,686 --> 00:25:22,320 -- THE EXAGGERATED CLAIMS AND 940 00:25:22,387 --> 00:25:23,355 SENSATIONAL HEADLINES -- HAVE 941 00:25:23,421 --> 00:25:23,889 MADE A REAL IMPRESSION ON 942 00:25:23,955 --> 00:25:25,490 PEOPLE. 943 00:25:25,557 --> 00:25:27,292 PUBLIC APPROVAL OF BAIL REFORM 944 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:28,426 IN THIS STATE HAS PLUMMETED, AND 945 00:25:28,493 --> 00:25:29,394 THE STATE LEGISLATURE HAS NOW 946 00:25:29,461 --> 00:25:30,262 ROLLED BACK PORTIONS OF THE LAW, 947 00:25:30,328 --> 00:25:31,263 TWICE. 948 00:25:31,329 --> 00:25:33,899 AND THAT'S THE THING. 949 00:25:33,965 --> 00:25:35,100 IT'S HARD TO OVERCOME THE 950 00:25:35,166 --> 00:25:36,401 EMOTIONAL IMPACT OF THE CLAIM 951 00:25:36,468 --> 00:25:37,335 THAT BAIL REFORM HARMS PUBLIC 952 00:25:37,402 --> 00:25:38,303 SAFETY. 953 00:25:38,370 --> 00:25:39,671 AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT YOU 954 00:25:39,738 --> 00:25:41,973 CAN'T FIND ISOLATED INSTANCES OF 955 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,541 INDIVIDUALS WHO'VE BEEN 956 00:25:43,608 --> 00:25:44,676 REARRESTED FOR NEW CRIMES WHILE 957 00:25:44,743 --> 00:25:45,744 OUT AWAITING TRIAL. 958 00:25:45,810 --> 00:25:47,812 YOU CAN. 959 00:25:47,879 --> 00:25:48,880 AND ANYTIME SOMEONE'S A VICTIM 960 00:25:48,947 --> 00:25:50,415 OF A CRIME, THAT IS TERRIBLE. 961 00:25:50,482 --> 00:25:52,684 BUT IF PUBLIC SAFETY IS 962 00:25:52,751 --> 00:25:54,452 GENUINELY YOUR PRIORITY -- CASH 963 00:25:54,519 --> 00:25:55,854 BAIL HAS NEVER FUNDAMENTALLY 964 00:25:55,921 --> 00:25:58,723 BEEN ABOUT THAT. 965 00:25:58,790 --> 00:25:59,925 FOR ALL THE ADS CURRENTLY 966 00:25:59,991 --> 00:26:01,192 CLAIMING THAT "PEOPLE CHARGED 967 00:26:01,259 --> 00:26:02,928 WITH VIOLENT CRIMES ARE NOW 968 00:26:02,994 --> 00:26:04,896 WALKING THE STREETS" -- THEY 969 00:26:04,963 --> 00:26:06,531 ALWAYS WERE, AS LONG AS THEY HAD 970 00:26:06,598 --> 00:26:08,233 ENOUGH MONEY TO MAKE BAIL. 971 00:26:08,300 --> 00:26:09,234 UNDER TOO MANY PLACES' CURRENT 972 00:26:09,301 --> 00:26:10,835 SYSTEMS, A PERSON FACING A 973 00:26:10,902 --> 00:26:12,804 MARIJUANA MISDEMEANOR WHO 974 00:26:12,871 --> 00:26:14,272 DOESN'T HAVE $2,000 IS GOING TO 975 00:26:14,339 --> 00:26:15,674 GET STUCK INSIDE JAIL. 976 00:26:15,740 --> 00:26:17,509 BUT A SERIAL SEX OFFENDER WHO 977 00:26:17,575 --> 00:26:19,277 MAKES -- HYPOTHETICALLY -- A 978 00:26:19,344 --> 00:26:20,712 MILLION DOLLARS A WEEK IN 979 00:26:20,779 --> 00:26:21,646 "FINDING NEVERLAND" RECEIPTS 980 00:26:21,713 --> 00:26:24,082 GETS TO STAY AT HOME. 981 00:26:24,149 --> 00:26:25,350 AND WHEN YOU PULL BACK AND LOOK 982 00:26:25,417 --> 00:26:26,251 AT THE OVERALL FIGURES OF 983 00:26:26,318 --> 00:26:27,852 WHETHER BAIL REFORM HAS ANY 984 00:26:27,919 --> 00:26:29,154 STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT LINK 985 00:26:29,220 --> 00:26:30,455 TO CRIME, THE ANSWER -- SO FAR 986 00:26:30,522 --> 00:26:31,690 -- HAS BEEN PRETTY CONCLUSIVELY 987 00:26:31,756 --> 00:26:34,059 "NO." 988 00:26:34,125 --> 00:26:35,327 ONE ANALYSIS LOOKED AT STUDIES 989 00:26:35,393 --> 00:26:36,494 IN SEVEN DIFFERENT 990 00:26:36,561 --> 00:26:39,030 JURISDICTIONS, AND NONE OF THEM 991 00:26:39,097 --> 00:26:40,432 FOUND THAT BAIL REFORMS LEAD TO 992 00:26:40,498 --> 00:26:42,100 A MEANINGFUL INCREASE IN CRIME. 993 00:26:42,167 --> 00:26:44,602 AND RESEARCH SUGGESTS BAIL 994 00:26:44,669 --> 00:26:47,038 REFORM CAN ACTUALLY MAKE PEOPLE 995 00:26:47,105 --> 00:26:48,740 LESS LIKELY TO RE-OFFEND -- 996 00:26:48,807 --> 00:26:49,975 WHICH MAKES SENSE. 997 00:26:50,041 --> 00:26:52,043 IF YOU DON'T UPEND PEOPLE'S 998 00:26:52,110 --> 00:26:55,180 LIVES BY NEEDLESSLY THROWING 999 00:26:55,246 --> 00:26:56,147 THEM IN JAIL PRE-TRIAL, THEY'RE 1000 00:26:56,214 --> 00:26:56,715 IN A MUCH BETTER POSITION TO 1001 00:26:56,781 --> 00:26:58,750 STAY OUT OF TROUBLE. 1002 00:26:58,817 --> 00:26:59,851 IN HARRIS COUNTY, TEXAS -- THE 1003 00:26:59,918 --> 00:27:01,119 PLACE YOU SAW THAT DICKISH JUDGE 1004 00:27:01,186 --> 00:27:02,120 EARLIER -- RESEARCHERS FOUND 1005 00:27:02,187 --> 00:27:05,156 THAT, AFTER THEY DRASTICALLY 1006 00:27:05,223 --> 00:27:05,690 REDUCED CASH BAIL IN THEIR 1007 00:27:05,757 --> 00:27:11,396 MISDEMEANOR COURTS, THERE WAS 1008 00:27:11,463 --> 00:27:11,796 ACTUALLY A 6% 1009 00:27:11,863 --> 00:27:12,397 "DECREASE" IN NEW PROSECUTIONS 1010 00:27:12,464 --> 00:27:12,998 OF PEOPLE OVER THE THREE YEARS 1011 00:27:13,064 --> 00:27:13,498 FOLLOWING THEIR ARREST. 1012 00:27:13,565 --> 00:27:16,167 SO IT'S BETTER FOR EVERYBODY. 1013 00:27:16,234 --> 00:27:16,801 BUT I GET THAT THOSE STATS DON'T 1014 00:27:16,868 --> 00:27:18,870 SOUND NEARLY AS FLASHY OVER 1015 00:27:18,937 --> 00:27:23,441 FOOTAGE OF A CRIME SCENE. 1016 00:27:23,508 --> 00:27:24,809 YOU CAN'T MAKE A CAMPAIGN AD 1017 00:27:24,876 --> 00:27:25,276 THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS. 1018 00:27:25,343 --> 00:27:26,611 >> DO YOU FEEL SAFE? 1019 00:27:26,678 --> 00:27:27,512 YOU SHOULD. 1020 00:27:27,579 --> 00:27:28,713 STUDY AFTER STUDY 1021 00:27:28,780 --> 00:27:31,983 SHOWS BAIL REFORM DOES NOT 1022 00:27:32,050 --> 00:27:38,223 IMPACT RISING CRIME, AND IN FACT 1023 00:27:38,289 --> 00:27:38,857 CAN EVEN GO SO FAR AS TO REDUCE 1024 00:27:38,923 --> 00:27:39,157 RECIDIVISM. 1025 00:27:39,224 --> 00:27:39,591 AND THIS DEAD BODY? 1026 00:27:39,657 --> 00:27:40,191 IT'S JUST 70 POUNDS OF HAM IN 1027 00:27:40,258 --> 00:27:41,092 THE SHAPE OF MAN. 1028 00:27:41,159 --> 00:27:42,260 >> John: YEAH, IT'S HONEST, BUT 1029 00:27:42,327 --> 00:27:43,294 IT DOESN'T PACK QUITE THE SAME 1030 00:27:43,361 --> 00:27:45,597 PUNCH. 1031 00:27:45,663 --> 00:27:47,265 AND FOR ALL THE FEARS OF LETTING 1032 00:27:47,332 --> 00:27:49,134 SOMEONE WHO'S A DANGER ONTO THE 1033 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,468 STREETS -- AGAIN, BAIL REFORM 1034 00:27:50,535 --> 00:27:52,203 DOESN'T TAKE AWAY JUDGES' 1035 00:27:52,270 --> 00:27:54,472 ABILITY TO DETAIN SOMEONE THEY 1036 00:27:54,539 --> 00:27:57,375 BELIEVE TO BE A GENUINE THREAT. 1037 00:27:57,442 --> 00:27:58,877 IN 49 STATES, ALL EXCEPT NEW 1038 00:27:58,943 --> 00:28:00,545 YORK, JUDGES ARE ALLOWED TO 1039 00:28:00,612 --> 00:28:02,714 CONSIDER BOTH RISK OF FAILURE TO 1040 00:28:02,781 --> 00:28:04,082 APPEAR AND PUBLIC SAFETY IN 1041 00:28:04,149 --> 00:28:05,016 PRETRIAL DECISIONS. 1042 00:28:05,083 --> 00:28:06,951 AND EVEN IN NEW YORK, IT WAS 1043 00:28:07,018 --> 00:28:08,953 GENERALLY ACCEPTED JUDGES DID IT 1044 00:28:09,020 --> 00:28:10,522 ANYWAY, AS "POTENTIAL 1045 00:28:10,588 --> 00:28:11,890 DANGEROUSNESS" HAS BEEN THE DE 1046 00:28:11,956 --> 00:28:12,891 FACTO USE OF BAIL HERE FOR 1047 00:28:12,957 --> 00:28:14,459 DECADES. 1048 00:28:14,526 --> 00:28:16,027 AND REASONABLE PEOPLE CAN 1049 00:28:16,094 --> 00:28:17,095 DISAGREE ON HOW EXACTLY TO MAKE 1050 00:28:17,162 --> 00:28:18,930 THOSE DETERMINATIONS. 1051 00:28:18,997 --> 00:28:20,565 ONE PLACE THAT SOME EXPERTS 1052 00:28:20,632 --> 00:28:21,900 POINT TO AS A MODEL IS NEW 1053 00:28:21,966 --> 00:28:22,667 JERSEY, WHOSE SYSTEM NOW LOOKS 1054 00:28:22,734 --> 00:28:24,536 LIKE THIS. 1055 00:28:24,602 --> 00:28:26,671 >> JUDGE SYBIL ELIAS IS WEIGHING 1056 00:28:26,738 --> 00:28:28,139 WHETHER TO FREE OR DETAIN A MAN 1057 00:28:28,206 --> 00:28:30,108 WHO APPEARS FROM THE COUNTY JAIL 1058 00:28:30,175 --> 00:28:31,076 BY CLOSED-CIRCUIT. 1059 00:28:31,142 --> 00:28:34,012 NOTICE THERE IS NO MENTION OF 1060 00:28:34,079 --> 00:28:35,080 MONEY FOR BAIL BECAUSE THE NEW 1061 00:28:35,146 --> 00:28:36,281 SYSTEM ELIMINATES THAT. 1062 00:28:36,347 --> 00:28:38,516 INSTEAD, IT USES INFORMATION 1063 00:28:38,583 --> 00:28:40,185 SUCH AS CONVICTIONS, NOT 1064 00:28:40,251 --> 00:28:41,619 ARRESTS, NOT SOCIO-ECONOMIC 1065 00:28:41,686 --> 00:28:43,054 FACTORS, PUNCHED INTO A 1066 00:28:43,121 --> 00:28:44,355 COMPUTER. 1067 00:28:44,422 --> 00:28:46,391 THE TRIAL COURT ADMINISTRATOR 1068 00:28:46,458 --> 00:28:47,959 WILL GIVE EACH DEFENDANT A SCORE 1069 00:28:48,026 --> 00:28:49,894 OF 1 TO 6 FOR RISK OF 1070 00:28:49,961 --> 00:28:50,628 REOFFENDING AND RISK OF SKIPPING 1071 00:28:50,695 --> 00:28:52,297 COURT. 1072 00:28:52,363 --> 00:28:54,065 EVEN IF A DEFENDANT HAS A HIGH 1073 00:28:54,132 --> 00:28:55,533 SCORE, PROSECUTORS MUST ASK FOR 1074 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,435 A DETENTION HEARING WITHIN THREE 1075 00:28:57,502 --> 00:28:58,970 TO FIVE DAYS, AND MUST PRESENT 1076 00:28:59,037 --> 00:29:01,272 CLEAR AND CONVINCING EVIDENCE TO 1077 00:29:01,339 --> 00:29:02,707 DETAIN SOMEONE. 1078 00:29:02,774 --> 00:29:03,975 >> John: YEAH, THAT SEEMS PRETTY 1079 00:29:04,042 --> 00:29:04,776 GOOD RIGHT? 1080 00:29:04,843 --> 00:29:06,277 ALTHOUGH IT'S BY NO MEANS 1081 00:29:06,344 --> 00:29:07,078 PERFECT. 1082 00:29:07,145 --> 00:29:08,113 FOR ONE, ASSIGNING PEOPLE A 1083 00:29:08,179 --> 00:29:09,314 "CRIME SCORE" SOUNDS LIKE 1084 00:29:09,380 --> 00:29:11,382 SOMETHING ROBOCOP DOES RIGHT 1085 00:29:11,449 --> 00:29:12,584 BEFORE HE PUNCHES YOU OUT A 1086 00:29:12,650 --> 00:29:13,585 WINDOW. 1087 00:29:13,651 --> 00:29:15,186 AND IT'S WORTH NOTING, COMPUTER 1088 00:29:15,253 --> 00:29:16,254 ALGORITHMS ARE NOT IMMUNE TO 1089 00:29:16,321 --> 00:29:18,490 BIAS THEMSELVES. 1090 00:29:18,556 --> 00:29:19,190 ONE SUCH SYSTEM IN BROWARD 1091 00:29:19,257 --> 00:29:20,425 COUNTY, FLORIDA, "WAS 1092 00:29:20,492 --> 00:29:21,526 PARTICULARLY LIKELY TO FALSELY 1093 00:29:21,593 --> 00:29:23,128 FLAG BLACK DEFENDANTS AS FUTURE 1094 00:29:23,194 --> 00:29:25,930 CRIMINALS, WRONGLY LABELING THEM 1095 00:29:25,997 --> 00:29:26,998 AT ALMOST TWICE THE RATE AS 1096 00:29:27,065 --> 00:29:28,066 WHITE DEFENDANTS." 1097 00:29:28,133 --> 00:29:28,833 IT WAS BASICALLY A RACIST 1098 00:29:28,900 --> 00:29:30,034 COMPUTER. 1099 00:29:30,101 --> 00:29:32,070 WHICH I REALIZE IS PROBABLY ELON 1100 00:29:32,137 --> 00:29:34,906 MUSK'S NEXT BILLION-DOLLAR IDEA. 1101 00:29:34,973 --> 00:29:36,341 AND NEW JERSEY'S APPROACH ISN'T 1102 00:29:36,407 --> 00:29:48,753 THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN WORK. 1103 00:29:48,820 --> 00:29:49,621 BAIL REFORM HAS LOOKED DIFFERENT 1104 00:29:49,687 --> 00:29:50,722 IN HARRIS COUNTY, FOR EXAMPLE, 1105 00:29:50,788 --> 00:29:52,123 HAS HAD SIMILAR SUCCESS WITHOUT 1106 00:29:52,190 --> 00:29:53,925 ANY KIND OF COMPUTER SCORING, AS 1107 00:29:53,992 --> 00:29:54,592 ANY KIND OF COMPUTER SCORING, AS 1108 00:29:54,659 --> 00:29:54,926 HAS NEW YORK. 1109 00:29:54,993 --> 00:29:55,527 THE POINT IS, IF WE WANTED TO, 1110 00:29:55,593 --> 00:29:56,060 THERE ARE MULTIPLE WAYS TO 1111 00:29:56,127 --> 00:29:56,594 DESIGN A SYSTEM THAT TRULY 1112 00:29:56,661 --> 00:29:57,162 PRIORITIZES "PUBLIC SAFETY." 1113 00:29:57,228 --> 00:29:58,062 BUT IF YOU COUNT THE ACCUSED AS 1114 00:29:58,129 --> 00:30:00,165 PART OF THE PUBLIC, WHICH YOU 1115 00:30:00,231 --> 00:30:01,900 REALLY SHOULD, WE SHOULD BE 1116 00:30:01,966 --> 00:30:02,934 CONSIDERING THEIR SAFETY, TOO. 1117 00:30:03,001 --> 00:30:04,369 BECAUSE TERRIBLE THINGS HAPPEN 1118 00:30:04,435 --> 00:30:07,672 WHEN YOU'RE LOCKED UP PRE-TRIAL. 1119 00:30:07,739 --> 00:30:09,440 AND IT'S NOT JUST THAT YOU CAN 1120 00:30:09,507 --> 00:30:10,041 LOSE YOUR JOB AND YOUR HOME. 1121 00:30:10,108 --> 00:30:11,442 YOU CAN LOSE YOUR LIFE. 1122 00:30:11,509 --> 00:30:14,179 AN INVESTIGATION OF OVER 500 U-S 1123 00:30:14,245 --> 00:30:16,147 JAILS FOUND THAT BETWEEN 2008 1124 00:30:16,214 --> 00:30:18,983 AND 2019, THEY SAW OVER 7,500 1125 00:30:19,050 --> 00:30:20,385 INMATE DEATHS -- AND OF THOSE 1126 00:30:20,451 --> 00:30:24,055 PEOPLE, NEARLY 5,000 WERE NEVER 1127 00:30:24,122 --> 00:30:25,523 CONVICTED OF THE CHARGES ON 1128 00:30:25,590 --> 00:30:26,724 WHICH THEY WERE BEING HELD. 1129 00:30:26,791 --> 00:30:27,892 HERE IN NEW YORK, AT RIKERS, 1130 00:30:27,959 --> 00:30:29,928 WHERE MOST PEOPLE ARE HELD 1131 00:30:29,994 --> 00:30:32,363 PRE-TRIAL, 17 PEOPLE HAVE DIED 1132 00:30:32,430 --> 00:30:34,332 THIS YEAR, SO FAR. 1133 00:30:34,399 --> 00:30:34,966 AND I KNOW THIS CONVERSATION 1134 00:30:35,033 --> 00:30:35,767 GETS HEATED. 1135 00:30:35,833 --> 00:30:37,302 BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER 1136 00:30:37,368 --> 00:30:39,537 WHY BAIL REFORM WAS IMPORTANT TO 1137 00:30:39,604 --> 00:30:41,072 BEGIN WITH. 1138 00:30:41,139 --> 00:30:42,173 AND IN THINKING ABOUT THIS 1139 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,309 STORY, I'D LIKE TO SHARE 1140 00:30:44,375 --> 00:30:45,843 SOMETHING THAT'S STUCK WITH ME. 1141 00:30:45,910 --> 00:30:47,412 WHEN WE DID OUR BAIL SEGMENT 1142 00:30:47,478 --> 00:30:48,680 SEVEN YEARS AGO, RIGHT UNTIL THE 1143 00:30:48,746 --> 00:30:50,114 LAST MINUTE, WE WERE GOING TO 1144 00:30:50,181 --> 00:30:50,615 INCLUDE A CLIP OF KALIEF 1145 00:30:50,682 --> 00:30:52,283 BROWDER. 1146 00:30:52,350 --> 00:30:52,917 IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH HIS 1147 00:30:52,984 --> 00:30:54,185 STORY, AT 16, HE WAS WRONGLY 1148 00:30:54,252 --> 00:30:54,686 ARRESTED FOR STEALING A 1149 00:30:54,752 --> 00:30:56,454 BACKPACK. 1150 00:30:56,521 --> 00:30:57,989 THIS WAS THE CLIP WE WERE GOING 1151 00:30:58,056 --> 00:30:58,923 TO USE. 1152 00:30:58,990 --> 00:31:00,091 >> THE GUY COMES OUT OF NOWHERE, 1153 00:31:00,158 --> 00:31:00,692 SAYS I ROBBED HIM. 1154 00:31:00,758 --> 00:31:01,826 AND THE NEXT THING I KNOW 1155 00:31:01,893 --> 00:31:02,760 THEY'RE PUTTING THE CUFFS ON ME. 1156 00:31:02,827 --> 00:31:03,928 I DON'T EVEN KNOW THIS DUDE. 1157 00:31:03,995 --> 00:31:05,163 >> BROWDER'S FAMILY COULDN'T 1158 00:31:05,230 --> 00:31:06,831 MAKE THE $10,000 BAIL ON THE 1159 00:31:06,898 --> 00:31:08,333 ROBBERY CHARGES. 1160 00:31:08,399 --> 00:31:09,300 MONTHS TURNED INTO YEARS. 1161 00:31:09,367 --> 00:31:11,336 HE TRIED TO COMMIT SUICIDE 1162 00:31:11,402 --> 00:31:12,403 SEVERAL TIMES. 1163 00:31:12,470 --> 00:31:14,405 IN JUNE HE WAS SUDDENLY FREED 1164 00:31:14,472 --> 00:31:16,207 WITH NO EXPLANATION. 1165 00:31:16,274 --> 00:31:17,909 >> NO APOLOGY, NO NOTHING. THEY 1166 00:31:17,976 --> 00:31:19,177 JUST SAID 'OH, CASE DISMISSED. 1167 00:31:19,244 --> 00:31:26,451 DON'T WORRY ABOUT NOTHING.' 1168 00:31:26,517 --> 00:31:26,985 LIKE, WHAT DO YOU MEAN DON'T 1169 00:31:27,051 --> 00:31:27,418 WORRY ABOUT NOTHING. 1170 00:31:27,485 --> 00:31:28,052 Y'ALL JUST TOOK OVER 3 YEARS OF 1171 00:31:28,119 --> 00:31:28,286 MY LIFE. 1172 00:31:28,353 --> 00:31:28,853 I DIDN'T GET TO GO TO PROM, 1173 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:29,721 GRADUATION, NOTHING. 1174 00:31:29,787 --> 00:31:30,488 IT WAS MISSED YEARS, I'M NEVER 1175 00:31:30,555 --> 00:31:31,155 GONNA GET THOSE YEARS BACK. 1176 00:31:31,222 --> 00:31:33,024 NEVER. 1177 00:31:33,091 --> 00:31:34,459 NEVER. 1178 00:31:34,525 --> 00:31:36,661 >> John: NOW, WE PULLED THAT 1179 00:31:36,728 --> 00:31:38,029 CLIP OUT JUST BEFORE TAPING, 1180 00:31:38,096 --> 00:31:39,397 WHEN WE FOUND OUT HE'D KILLED 1181 00:31:39,464 --> 00:31:41,032 HIMSELF THE NIGHT BEFORE. 1182 00:31:41,099 --> 00:31:42,400 HIS DEATH ISN'T EVEN INCLUDED IN 1183 00:31:42,467 --> 00:31:44,535 ANY OF THE TALLIES OF PEOPLE WHO 1184 00:31:44,602 --> 00:31:45,637 WERE KILLED BY RIKERS, DESPITE 1185 00:31:45,703 --> 00:31:47,071 THE FACT IT SURE FEELS LIKE IT 1186 00:31:47,138 --> 00:31:48,172 SHOULD BE. 1187 00:31:48,239 --> 00:31:49,674 THE COLLATERAL DAMAGE OF LOCKING 1188 00:31:49,741 --> 00:31:51,009 SO MANY PEOPLE UP PRE-TRIAL IS 1189 00:31:51,075 --> 00:31:52,677 ENORMOUS. 1190 00:31:52,744 --> 00:31:54,379 TO DEFEND THIS SYSTEM IS TO 1191 00:31:54,445 --> 00:31:55,580 DEFEND A PEOPLE-WRECKING 1192 00:31:55,647 --> 00:31:57,482 MACHINE. 1193 00:31:57,548 --> 00:32:00,251 SO, WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? 1194 00:32:00,318 --> 00:32:01,452 WELL, IF WE'RE NOT CAREFUL WE'RE 1195 00:32:01,519 --> 00:32:02,287 GOING TO GO BACKWARDS. 1196 00:32:02,353 --> 00:32:03,554 WHICH WOULD BE A HUGE MISTAKE. 1197 00:32:03,621 --> 00:32:05,556 AND I'D ARGUE ANY FUTURE SYSTEM 1198 00:32:05,623 --> 00:32:07,125 SHOULD BE BUILT ON A FEW BASIC 1199 00:32:07,191 --> 00:32:08,660 PRINCIPLES. 1200 00:32:08,726 --> 00:32:10,194 FIRST, FOR SOMEONE CHARGED WITH 1201 00:32:10,261 --> 00:32:11,663 A LOW-LEVEL OFFENSE, WE SHOULD 1202 00:32:11,729 --> 00:32:12,697 PRIORITIZE LETTING THEM REMAIN 1203 00:32:12,764 --> 00:32:14,799 FREE PRETRIAL, INSTEAD OF 1204 00:32:14,866 --> 00:32:16,167 DEFAULTING TO KEEPING THEM IN 1205 00:32:16,234 --> 00:32:17,635 JAIL. 1206 00:32:17,702 --> 00:32:19,704 SECOND, WHENEVER ANY BAIL 1207 00:32:19,771 --> 00:32:21,773 HEARINGS DO HAPPEN, THEY SHOULD 1208 00:32:21,839 --> 00:32:22,940 BE LONGER THAN TEN SECONDS. 1209 00:32:23,007 --> 00:32:24,909 I CAN'T FUCKING BELIEVE THAT HAS 1210 00:32:24,976 --> 00:32:26,778 TO BE SAID OUT LOUD. 1211 00:32:26,844 --> 00:32:28,179 ALSO, PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE COUNSEL 1212 00:32:28,246 --> 00:32:29,847 WITH THEM AT BAIL HEARINGS. 1213 00:32:29,914 --> 00:32:31,249 I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT HAS TO BE 1214 00:32:31,316 --> 00:32:32,450 SAID EITHER. 1215 00:32:32,517 --> 00:32:34,052 AND FINALLY, IF SOMEONE IS 1216 00:32:34,118 --> 00:32:35,620 DETAINED, WE SHOULD BE 1217 00:32:35,687 --> 00:32:36,187 EXPEDITING THEIR TRIAL, SO 1218 00:32:36,254 --> 00:32:37,288 THEY'RE NOT WAITING YEARS FOR A 1219 00:32:37,355 --> 00:32:37,989 COURT DATE. 1220 00:32:38,056 --> 00:32:40,258 AND I'M NOT SAYING REFORM IS 1221 00:32:40,325 --> 00:32:42,293 EASY OR SIMPLE. 1222 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:43,728 THERE ARE GOING TO BE 1223 00:32:43,795 --> 00:32:45,563 DISAGREEMENTS EVEN AMONG 1224 00:32:45,630 --> 00:32:46,831 ADVOCATES ABOUT BEST PRACTICES 1225 00:32:46,898 --> 00:32:47,665 HERE. 1226 00:32:47,732 --> 00:32:49,834 BUT RIGHT NOW WE CAN'T EVEN HAVE 1227 00:32:49,901 --> 00:32:50,902 THOSE IMPORTANT CONVERSATIONS 1228 00:32:50,968 --> 00:32:52,637 BECAUSE ALL THE AIR IN THE ROOM 1229 00:32:52,704 --> 00:32:54,339 IS BEING TAKEN UP BY BULLSHIT 1230 00:32:54,405 --> 00:32:55,740 FEARMONGERING ADS, FAKE 1231 00:32:55,807 --> 00:32:57,709 NEWSPAPERS, AND 1232 00:32:57,775 --> 00:32:58,910 CONFIDENTLY-DELIVERED LIES FROM 1233 00:32:58,976 --> 00:32:59,744 MEN IN UNIFORM. 1234 00:32:59,811 --> 00:33:02,013 AND LOOK, EVEN AFTER 1235 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,381 CONVICTIONS, WE'RE CLEARLY 1236 00:33:03,448 --> 00:33:04,415 LOCKING FAR TOO MANY PEOPLE UP 1237 00:33:04,482 --> 00:33:05,583 IN THIS COUNTRY. 1238 00:33:05,650 --> 00:33:06,851 BUT TO DO IT BEFORE THEY'VE EVEN 1239 00:33:06,918 --> 00:33:09,454 BEEN CONVICTED OF ANYTHING IS 1240 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,322 PROOF THAT CIVIL LIBERTIES ONLY 1241 00:33:11,389 --> 00:33:13,024 APPLY TANGIBLY TO THE PRIVILEGED 1242 00:33:13,091 --> 00:33:13,858 -- FOR EVERYONE ELSE, THEY'RE 1243 00:33:13,925 --> 00:33:16,561 ENTIRELY THEORETICAL. 1244 00:33:16,627 --> 00:33:18,896 AND ANYONE EVEN TRYING TO DEFEND 1245 00:33:18,963 --> 00:33:21,466 A SYSTEM LIKE THAT IS BASICALLY 1246 00:33:21,532 --> 00:33:24,969 MORALLY BANKRUPT. 1247 00:33:25,036 --> 00:33:25,503 ISN'T THAT RIGHT, DERMOT? 1248 00:33:25,570 --> 00:33:26,070 >> 100%. 1249 00:33:26,137 --> 00:33:26,471 100%. 1250 00:33:26,537 --> 00:33:28,406 THERE IS NO DOUBT. 1251 00:33:28,473 --> 00:33:30,141 >> John: FOR ONCE, DERMOT, I 1252 00:33:30,208 --> 00:33:31,409 CAN'T ARGUE WITH YOU THERE! 1253 00:33:31,476 --> 00:33:33,711 AND NOW THIS. 1254 00:33:33,778 --> 00:33:38,116 >> Announcer: AND NOW, 1255 00:33:38,182 --> 00:33:39,384 UNNECESSARY FULL DISCLOSURE: ALL 1256 00:33:39,450 --> 00:33:40,485 TAMRON HALL EDITION. 1257 00:33:40,551 --> 00:33:42,286 >> FULL DISCLOSURE MY DAD WAS 25 1258 00:33:42,353 --> 00:33:49,894 YEARS OLDER THAN MY MOM. 1259 00:33:49,961 --> 00:33:52,130 AND GROWING UP PEOPLE WOULD 1260 00:33:52,196 --> 00:33:52,764 THINK HE WAS MY GRANDAD. 1261 00:33:52,830 --> 00:33:53,398 FULL DISCLOSURE, I CANNOT STAND 1262 00:33:53,464 --> 00:33:55,600 PUSHUPS. 1263 00:33:55,666 --> 00:33:56,200 FULL DISCLOSURE, I DO DYE MY 1264 00:33:56,267 --> 00:33:57,535 HAIR AND I'LL DYE IT TONIGHT. 1265 00:33:57,602 --> 00:33:59,003 FULL DISCLOSURE, MY NAME IS 1266 00:33:59,070 --> 00:33:59,570 TAMRON AND I SUFFER FROM 1267 00:33:59,637 --> 00:34:01,739 REALLY DRY FEET. 1268 00:34:01,806 --> 00:34:03,207 FULL DISCLOSURE, WE EAT TWO 1269 00:34:03,274 --> 00:34:06,177 BURGERS A WEEK. 1270 00:34:06,244 --> 00:34:07,812 FULL DISCLOSURE, I DRINK WINE, 1271 00:34:07,879 --> 00:34:09,881 CHAMPAGNE, AND VODKA. 1272 00:34:09,947 --> 00:34:10,715 FULL DISCLOSURE, I DO NOT HAVE A 1273 00:34:10,782 --> 00:34:12,650 SECRET TALENT. 1274 00:34:12,717 --> 00:34:13,651 FULL DISCLOSURE, I DON'T KNOW 1275 00:34:13,718 --> 00:34:14,419 HOW COMFORTABLE I AM TALKING 1276 00:34:14,485 --> 00:34:16,621 ABOUT SEX ON TV. 1277 00:34:16,687 --> 00:34:17,155 FULL DISCLOSURE, I HAVE A 1278 00:34:17,221 --> 00:34:17,889 PELOTON. 1279 00:34:17,955 --> 00:34:18,423 FULL DISCLOSURE, I HAVE A 1280 00:34:18,489 --> 00:34:18,923 TATTOO. 1281 00:34:18,990 --> 00:34:21,492 FULL DISCLOSURE, I KNOW NOTHING 1282 00:34:21,559 --> 00:34:24,529 THAT IS HAPPENING IN THIS SHOW! 1283 00:34:24,595 --> 00:34:25,229 ♪ ♪ 1284 00:34:25,296 --> 00:34:26,063 >> John: THAT'S OUR SHOW! 1285 00:34:26,130 --> 00:34:26,798 THANKS SO MUCH FOR WATCHING! 1286 00:34:26,864 --> 00:34:27,832 WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK! 1287 00:34:27,899 --> 00:34:30,134 GOOD NIGHT! 1288 00:34:30,201 --> 00:34:35,239 ♪ ♪ 1289 00:34:35,306 --> 00:34:37,041 [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] 1290 00:34:37,108 --> 00:34:37,675 >> I WILL WORK DAY-IN, DAY-OUT, 1291 00:34:37,742 --> 00:34:38,209 TO DELIVER FOR THE BRITISH 1292 00:34:38,276 --> 00:34:39,277 PEOPLE.