1 00:00:01,368 --> 00:00:06,106 Announcer: IT'S "THE LATE SHOW WITH STEPHEN COLBERT." 2 00:00:06,106 --> 00:00:12,445 TONIGHT... FIRST, STEPHEN WELCOMES... 3 00:00:12,445 --> 00:00:16,783 STEVEN SPIELBERG AND COMPOSER JOHN WILLIAMS. 4 00:00:16,783 --> 00:00:21,955 FEATURING LOUIS CATO AND "THE LATE SHOW" BAND. 5 00:00:21,955 --> 00:00:26,993 AND NOW, LIVE ON TAPE FROM THE ED SULLIVAN THEATER 6 00:00:26,993 --> 00:00:38,805 IN NEW YORK CITY, IT'S STEPHEN COLBERT. 7 00:00:38,805 --> 00:01:01,661 ♪ ♪ [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] 8 00:01:01,661 --> 00:01:02,896 Audience: [CHANTING] 9 00:01:02,896 --> 00:01:03,663 STEPHEN! STEPHEN! 10 00:01:03,663 --> 00:01:06,833 Stephen: WELCOME ONE AND ALL. 11 00:01:06,833 --> 00:01:08,601 ALL AROUND THE WORLD. WELCOME TO "THE LATE SHOW." 12 00:01:08,601 --> 00:01:14,974 I'M YOUR HOST, STEPHEN COLBERT. I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING TO 13 00:01:14,974 --> 00:01:18,511 EVERYBODY AT HOME. IF YOU'RE STANDING, 14 00:01:18,511 --> 00:01:20,146 YOU'D BETTER SIT DOWN. AND IF YOU'RE SITTING DOWN, 15 00:01:20,146 --> 00:01:21,581 GET ON THE FLOOR AND WEEP. BECAUSE THERE IS A MASSIVE 16 00:01:21,581 --> 00:01:24,350 CONTROVERSY ROCKING D.C. THIS WEEK, THE WASHINGTON POST 17 00:01:24,350 --> 00:01:26,519 ASKED A QUESTION THAT GENERATIONS OF HISTORIANS 18 00:01:26,519 --> 00:01:28,655 WILL DEBATE. THE BIDENS ORDERED THE SAME DISH 19 00:01:28,655 --> 00:01:32,091 AT A RESTAURANT. WHO DOES THAT? 20 00:01:32,091 --> 00:01:35,094 I'LL TELL YOU WHO! I'LL TELL YOU WHO! 21 00:01:35,094 --> 00:01:37,730 A RENEGADE PRESIDENT WHO'S UP TO HIS BIB IN THE BIGGEST NATIONAL 22 00:01:37,730 --> 00:01:40,333 FOOD SCANDAL SINCE NIXON SAID THIS. 23 00:01:40,333 --> 00:01:51,110 "I AM NOT A COOK." Stephen: YES, 24 00:01:51,110 --> 00:01:53,847 THANK YOU. THAT'S RARE. 25 00:01:53,847 --> 00:01:55,615 WHICH IS WHY TONIGHT, WE'RE CALLING THE 26 00:01:55,615 --> 00:01:56,883 BIDENS' REDUNDANT-ENTREE SCANDAL 27 00:01:56,883 --> 00:02:02,489 "ALL THE PRESIDENT'S MENU!" NOW, ADMITTEDLY, IT'S A BIT OF 28 00:02:02,489 --> 00:02:05,225 A SLOW NEWS DAY. AND I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE 29 00:02:05,225 --> 00:02:08,761 WHO IS SO STARVED FOR A STORY THAT IT'S MAKING ME HANGRY. 30 00:02:08,761 --> 00:02:12,165 THE MEDIA LANDSCAPE IS BRISTLING WITH HEADLINES LIKE 31 00:02:12,165 --> 00:02:15,368 "BIDEN AND FIRST LADY'S ORDER SPARKS STRONG REACTIONS," 32 00:02:15,368 --> 00:02:17,904 "BIDENS' RESTAURANT ORDER SPARKS FURIOUS DEBATE," 33 00:02:17,904 --> 00:02:20,807 AND "THE BIDENS WENT TO DINNER AND ORDERED THE SAME DISH, 34 00:02:20,807 --> 00:02:26,746 DIVIDING THE INTERNET." YES. 35 00:02:26,746 --> 00:02:29,749 THIS IS A FAR CRY FROM THE LAST PRESIDENT AND HIS FIRST LADY. 36 00:02:29,749 --> 00:02:32,652 THEY NEVER GOT THE SAME DISH. HE WOULD ORDER A BURNT STEAK 37 00:02:32,652 --> 00:02:40,927 WITH KETCHUP, AND SHE ALWAYS HAD A SMALL SIDE OF BLOOD DIAMONDS. 38 00:02:40,927 --> 00:02:45,331 BUT ONE THING THIS FIRESTORM PROVES: AFTER FOUR YEARS OF 39 00:02:45,331 --> 00:02:51,838 THE LAST GUY PUTTING US THROUGH A DAILY ROLLERCOASTER OF 40 00:02:51,838 --> 00:02:56,709 NEOFASCIST GRIFT, WE FINALLY GET TO BE OUTRAGED ABOUT 41 00:02:56,709 --> 00:03:04,551 LOW-STAKE SCANDALS. SO BREAK OUT... 42 00:03:04,551 --> 00:03:07,120 SO BREAK OUT YOUR TAN SUIT, EAT YOUR PIZZA WITH A FORK 43 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:13,026 AND KNIFE, AND PUKE ON THE PRIME MINISTER OF JAPAN, 'CAUSE 44 00:03:13,026 --> 00:03:16,729 I THINK EVERYTHING'S GONNA BE OKAY! 45 00:03:16,729 --> 00:03:18,831 SO LET ME WALK YOU THROUGH EXACTLY WHAT WENT DOWN 46 00:03:18,831 --> 00:03:22,402 WITH THE BIDENS. EVERY DETAIL. 47 00:03:22,402 --> 00:03:23,469 A FEW WEEKS BACK, JOE AND JILL SNUCK OUT FOR A DATE 48 00:03:23,469 --> 00:03:26,272 TO A D.C.-AREA RESTAURANT. OKAY, THAT'S RIGHT. 49 00:03:26,272 --> 00:03:31,344 NOT ONLY IS TODAY'S BIG STORY ABOUT TWO OLD PEOPLE EATING, 50 00:03:31,344 --> 00:03:34,213 IT HAPPENED A WHILE AGO. AND HERE ARE EVERY SINGLE ONE 51 00:03:34,213 --> 00:03:36,816 OF THE DETAILS. THE FIRST COUPLE ORDERED 52 00:03:36,816 --> 00:03:39,485 A CHICORY SALAD, GRILLED BREAD AND BUTTER, 53 00:03:39,485 --> 00:03:43,089 AND TWO BOWLS OF RIGATONI! HOW DARE THEY ORDER 54 00:03:43,089 --> 00:03:47,060 THE SAME ENTREE! THIS IS AMERICA! 55 00:03:47,060 --> 00:03:48,561 DAMN IT! THE RULE IS, YOU AND YOUR SPOUSE 56 00:03:48,561 --> 00:03:51,097 GO IN WITH A PLAN. YOU ORDER DIFFERENT ENTREES, 57 00:03:51,097 --> 00:03:53,900 SO YOU CAN TRY TWO THINGS. BUT THEN THE OTHER PERSON 58 00:03:53,900 --> 00:03:55,735 SEEMS TO LIKE YOUR THING MORE THAN THE THING THEY SAID THAT 59 00:03:55,735 --> 00:03:58,605 THEY WANTED. SO THEY KEEP TAKING BITES 60 00:03:58,605 --> 00:04:01,975 UNTIL YOU SAY, "YOU KNOW WHAT, WHY DON'T YOU JUST FINISH IT." 61 00:04:01,975 --> 00:04:03,509 AND THEN THEY SAY, NO, NO, IT'S YOURS. 62 00:04:03,509 --> 00:04:04,978 I'LL EAT MY CHICKEN CAESAR." AND YOU SAY, "THIS IS THE 63 00:04:04,978 --> 00:04:08,181 CHEESECAKE FACTORY ALL OVER AGAIN!" 64 00:04:08,181 --> 00:04:10,016 THEN YOU FORGET YOUR LEFTOVERS ON THE TABLE AND DRIVE HOME 65 00:04:10,016 --> 00:04:17,690 IN SILENCE, THE WAY GOD INTENDED! 66 00:04:17,690 --> 00:04:20,526 BUT I'M SORRY. 67 00:04:20,526 --> 00:04:24,364 THERE ARE RULES. THESE DAYS, IT ISN'T ALL PASTA 68 00:04:24,364 --> 00:04:26,633 FOR THE PREZ. YESTERDAY, BIDEN GAVE A SPEECH 69 00:04:26,633 --> 00:04:28,501 TO HOUSE DEMOCRATS, WHERE HE TOUTED HIS ADMINISTRATION'S 70 00:04:28,501 --> 00:04:35,575 REDUCTION OF THE DEFICIT. JUST ONE PROBLEM: HE WAS A BIT 71 00:04:35,575 --> 00:04:42,115 OFF ON THE NUMBER. WE CUT THE DEFICIT BY 72 00:04:42,115 --> 00:04:46,185 1.7 BILLION IN TWO YEARS, THE LARGEST DEFICIT REDUCTION IN 73 00:04:46,185 --> 00:04:48,221 AMERICAN HISTORY. TRILLIUM. 74 00:04:48,221 --> 00:04:51,424 Stephen: IT'S PRETTY RARE FOR HECKLERS TO TELL YOU THAT 75 00:04:51,424 --> 00:04:55,061 YOU'RE DOING BETTER THAN YOU THOUGHT. 76 00:04:55,061 --> 00:04:57,864 "YOU SUCK...SESSFULLY RE-BOOTED THE ECONOMY! 77 00:04:57,864 --> 00:05:08,174 BOOO-TIFUL JOB!" BIDEN ALSO HIGHLIGHTED A HUGE 78 00:05:08,174 --> 00:05:10,476 WIN FROM YESTERDAY, WHEN ELI LILLY ANNOUNCED IT WOULD 79 00:05:10,476 --> 00:05:16,049 FINALLY LOWER THE COST OF INSULIN. 80 00:05:16,049 --> 00:05:20,720 SO MANY PEOPLE GET INSULIN. GUESS WHAT, INSTEAD OF 400 TO 81 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:25,024 500 BUCKS A MONTH, THEY'RE GOING TO PAY $35 A MONTH. 82 00:05:25,024 --> 00:05:26,926 Stephen: THAT'S AN OVER 90% DISCOUNT! 83 00:05:26,926 --> 00:05:32,598 THAT'S LIKE IF THE DOLLAR TREE CHANGED THEIR NAME TO 84 00:05:32,598 --> 00:05:37,537 [BLEEP] IT, IT'S FREE. OF COURSE, BIDEN'S CHIEF RIVAL 85 00:05:37,537 --> 00:05:39,605 IS LIKELY TO BE THE FORMER PRESIDENT. 86 00:05:39,605 --> 00:05:42,542 BUT HE'S NO SURE THING. IN PART BECAUSE ACCORDING TO 87 00:05:42,542 --> 00:05:50,016 INSIDERS, THE FORMER PRESIDENT IS FACING A "SOFT BAN" AT FOX. 88 00:05:50,016 --> 00:05:52,885 [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] 89 00:05:52,885 --> 00:05:54,921 WHAT? THEY'RE BANNING 90 00:05:54,921 --> 00:06:00,993 THE EX PRESIDENT? THAT'S LIKE THE DISCOVERY 91 00:06:00,993 --> 00:06:06,399 CHANNEL BANNING SHARKS. NO ONE WANTS TO WATCH 92 00:06:06,399 --> 00:06:07,967 "SALTY WATER" WEEK. APPARENTLY, THE FORMER PRESIDENT 93 00:06:07,967 --> 00:06:10,069 HAS FALLEN OUT OF FAVOR WITH NEWSCORP CHAIRMAN AND PLUM 94 00:06:10,069 --> 00:06:15,041 YOU SHOULD HAVE EATEN FIVE DAYS AGO, RUPERT MURDOCH. 95 00:06:15,041 --> 00:06:18,478 ACCORDING TO FILINGS IN THE DOMINION LAWSUIT, MURDOCH HAS 96 00:06:18,478 --> 00:06:21,881 BEEN TRYING TO KEEP THE EX PREZ OFF FOX FOR A LONG TIME. 97 00:06:21,881 --> 00:06:25,852 AFTER JANUARY 6, MURDOCH INSTRUCTED AN AIDE "TO MAKE THE 98 00:06:25,852 --> 00:06:29,856 FORMER PRESIDENT A NONPERSON." HE WANTS TO MAKE THE FORMER 99 00:06:29,856 --> 00:06:32,959 PRESIDENT "PERSONA NON GRATA". AS OPPOSED TO NOW, 100 00:06:32,959 --> 00:06:40,099 WHEN HE'S "PERSONA AU GRATIN." INSTEAD, FOX NEWS IS TRYING 101 00:06:40,099 --> 00:06:42,235 TO PROMOTE OTHER CANDIDATES, ESPECIALLY FLORIDA GOVERNOR 102 00:06:42,235 --> 00:06:51,077 RON DESANTIS, SEEN HERE STANDING IN THE MIDDLE OF 103 00:06:51,077 --> 00:07:03,756 "I'M WITH STUPID" BOULEVARD. YOU SEE? 104 00:07:03,756 --> 00:07:05,958 IT'S WORTH WAITING FOR THE JOKE. BUT THINGS ARE NOT GOING 105 00:07:05,958 --> 00:07:07,894 ACCORDING TO UNCLE RUPEY'S PLAN. EARLIER THIS WEEK, FOX SENT 106 00:07:07,894 --> 00:07:11,063 THE MOST INFORMATION-RESISTANT OF THE "FOX AND FRIENDS" DOWN 107 00:07:11,063 --> 00:07:14,567 TO A DINER IN DESANTIS' HOME STATE OF FLORIDA IN HIS OLD 108 00:07:14,567 --> 00:07:18,471 CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT TO SHOW JUST HOW POPULAR DESANTIS IS. 109 00:07:18,471 --> 00:07:26,045 2024. WHO'S PUMPED UP FOR THE ELEC 110 00:07:26,045 --> 00:07:28,114 ELECTION? RAPID FIRE. 111 00:07:28,114 --> 00:07:31,684 WHO IS YOUR MAN? WHO'S YOUR WOMAN? 112 00:07:31,684 --> 00:07:36,155 MY MAN, DONALD TRUMP. WHO'S YOUR MAN OR WOMAN? 113 00:07:36,155 --> 00:07:41,828 I WOULD SAY TRUMP. A LODGE OF TRUMP FANS. 114 00:07:41,828 --> 00:07:43,396 Stephen: "HA HA. NOT THE ANSWER I WAS LOOKING 115 00:07:43,396 --> 00:07:44,363 FOR. HAVE YOU GUYS NOT HEARD THERE'S 116 00:07:44,363 --> 00:07:45,631 A SOFT BAN? PLEASE, SOMEONE SAY ANYONE 117 00:07:45,631 --> 00:07:48,801 ELSE'S NAME OR RUPERT'S GONNA TAKE MY THUMBS." 118 00:07:48,801 --> 00:07:51,904 YOU, SIR? ANYTHING? 119 00:07:51,904 --> 00:07:55,308 THEN HE SAW ONE RAY OF HOPE. A WOMAN WEARING 120 00:07:55,308 --> 00:08:03,282 A DESANTIS SHIRT. I SEE-- 121 00:08:03,282 --> 00:08:08,087 I SEE GOVERNOR DeSANTIS. WHAT ABOUT PRESIDENT DeSANTIS? 122 00:08:08,087 --> 00:08:11,457 I LIKE IT. WHO'S YOUR PICK? 123 00:08:11,457 --> 00:08:14,961 OH, GOSH. I DON'T KNOW. 124 00:08:14,961 --> 00:08:18,531 TRUMP OR DeSANTIS. EITHER OR. 125 00:08:18,531 --> 00:08:20,266 Stephen: EITHER/OR? YOU'RE WEARING A RON DESANTIS 126 00:08:20,266 --> 00:08:21,734 T-SHIRT! THAT'S LIKE MR. MET SAYING, 127 00:08:21,734 --> 00:08:23,002 "GO METS! OR YANKEES. 128 00:08:23,002 --> 00:08:24,136 I'M NOT REALLY INTO BASEBALL. THIS IS JUST AN UNRELATED 129 00:08:24,136 --> 00:08:30,610 MEDICAL CONDITION." IT'S A WEIRD PRIORITY, 130 00:08:30,610 --> 00:08:34,280 BUT ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY, REPUBLICANS ARE LASER-FOCUSED 131 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:43,389 ON ONE ISSUE: BANNING DRAG. THE LATEST HATEFUL DUMMY 132 00:08:43,389 --> 00:08:49,962 TO JUMP ON THE TURDWAGON IS TEXAS STATE REPRESENTATIVE AND 133 00:08:49,962 --> 00:08:52,131 GUY WHO BROKE UP WITH HIS LAST GIRLFRIEND BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T 134 00:08:52,131 --> 00:08:54,100 LIKE "IMPRACTICAL JOKERS," NATE SCHATZLINE. 135 00:08:54,100 --> 00:08:57,370 SCHATZLINE HAS AUTHORED A BILL THAT WOULD SEEK TO LIMIT DRAG BY 136 00:08:57,370 --> 00:09:00,373 DESIGNATING ANY ESTABLISHMENT AS A "SEXUALLY ORIENTED 137 00:09:00,373 --> 00:09:03,242 BUSINESS" IF IT ALLOWS "ON-PREMISES CONSUMPTION 138 00:09:03,242 --> 00:09:06,279 OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES" AND PERFORMANCES BY A PERSON 139 00:09:06,279 --> 00:09:09,282 WEARING ANY CLOTHING OR MAKEUP NOT STEREOTYPICAL 140 00:09:09,282 --> 00:09:12,818 TO THEIR BORN SEX. IF SERVING ALCOHOL AND HAVING 141 00:09:12,818 --> 00:09:16,856 MEN IN GOWNS MAKES YOU A SEXUALLY ORIENTED BUSINESS, 142 00:09:16,856 --> 00:09:29,568 I'VE GOT BAD NEWS ABOUT CHURCH. NOT ME. 143 00:09:29,568 --> 00:09:33,839 THAT'S HIM SAYING THAT. HE IS SAYING THAT. 144 00:09:33,839 --> 00:09:36,042 SO, SCHATZLINE WANTS TO STOP PEOPLE FROM PUBLICLY WEARING 145 00:09:36,042 --> 00:09:38,811 ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T CONFORM TO TRADITIONAL DEFINITIONS OF 146 00:09:38,811 --> 00:09:42,214 GENDER. WHICH IS WHY PEOPLE HAD SOME 147 00:09:42,214 --> 00:09:44,850 CONFUSION WHEN THIS VIDEO EMERGED OF HIM IN HIGH SCHOOL 148 00:09:44,850 --> 00:09:57,363 RUNNING AROUND. ♪ ♪ 149 00:09:57,363 --> 00:10:01,534 OKAY, THAT'S HIM IN FRONT IN THE DRESS, AND THAT'S DRAG, AND 150 00:10:01,534 --> 00:10:02,868 NOW HE'S TRYING TO BAN IT FOR EVERYONE ELSE? 151 00:10:02,868 --> 00:10:04,437 THIS IS THE MOST HYPOCRITICAL MOVE SINCE NANCY REAGAN'S 152 00:10:04,437 --> 00:10:06,038 FAMOUS ANTI-DRUG CAMPAIGN. "JUST SAY NO... 153 00:10:06,038 --> 00:10:09,408 BECAUSE THAT'S MY BAG OF COKE. BACK OFF, OR I'LL CUT A BITCH!" 154 00:10:09,408 --> 00:10:12,311 WE'VE GOT A GREAT SHOW FOR YOU TONIGHT. 155 00:10:12,311 --> 00:10:17,750 MY GUESTS ARE STEVEN SPIELBERG AND COMPOSER JOHN WILLIAMS. 156 00:10:17,750 --> 00:10:19,485 THAT'S RIGHT. STICK AROUND. 157 00:10:46,479 --> 00:10:47,346 ♪ ♪ Stephen: GIVE IT UP FOR THE 158 00:10:47,346 --> 00:10:53,252 BAND PERRY LOUIS CATO AND "THE LATE SHOW." 159 00:10:53,252 --> 00:10:58,124 WELCOME BACK. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, LADIES AND 160 00:10:58,124 --> 00:11:01,727 GENTLEMEN, LAST WEEK I HAVE THE HONOR TO SIT DOWN WITH A MAN 161 00:11:01,727 --> 00:11:06,399 WHO'S BEEN DELIGHTING MOVIEGOERS FOR THE LAST 50 YEARS, 162 00:11:06,399 --> 00:11:08,501 STEVEN SPIELBERG. THE LEGENDARY DIRECTOR, 163 00:11:08,501 --> 00:11:10,770 WHO RARELY DOES TELEVISION AND HAS NEVER DONE 164 00:11:10,770 --> 00:11:11,904 LATE NIGHT HAS BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR SOME OF OUR GREATEST 165 00:11:11,904 --> 00:11:13,406 CULTURAL TOUCHSTONES: "JAWS," "CLOSE ENCOUNTERS 166 00:11:13,406 --> 00:11:20,346 OF THE THIRD KIND," "RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK," 167 00:11:20,346 --> 00:11:21,847 "E.T.," "JURASSIC PARK," 168 00:11:21,847 --> 00:11:23,382 "SCHINDLER'S LIST," "SAVING PRIVATE RYAN," 169 00:11:23,382 --> 00:11:24,383 "MUNICH," "LINCOLN," AND LAST YEAR'S 170 00:11:24,383 --> 00:11:25,785 "WEST SIDE STORY." HIS LATEST, 171 00:11:25,785 --> 00:11:28,988 "THE FABELMANS," IS NOMINATED FOR SEVEN ACADEMY AWARDS, 172 00:11:28,988 --> 00:11:33,492 INCLUDING BEST DIRECTOR AND BEST PICTURE. 173 00:11:33,492 --> 00:11:35,628 IT IS A SEMIAUTOBIOGRAPHICAL TELLING OF STEVEN SPIELBERG'S 174 00:11:35,628 --> 00:11:39,732 OWN YOUTH. THROUGH SAMMY FABELMAN, WE LEARN 175 00:11:39,732 --> 00:11:43,969 ABOUT HOW THIS ICONIC DIRECTOR FELL IN LOVE WITH MAKING MOVIES, 176 00:11:43,969 --> 00:11:48,174 AND THE SECRET HE KEPT THAT LED TO THE SHATTERING OF HIS FAMILY. 177 00:11:48,174 --> 00:11:50,943 MR. SPIELBERG WAS KIND ENOUGH TO INVITE ME INTO HIS AMBLIN 178 00:11:50,943 --> 00:11:53,312 OFFICES FOR AN EXTENSIVE CONVERSATION ABOUT HIS LIFE 179 00:11:53,312 --> 00:12:01,153 AND HIS FILMS. JIM? 180 00:12:01,153 --> 00:12:08,194 STEVEN SPIELBERG, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE AT AND SITTING 181 00:12:08,194 --> 00:12:10,863 DOWN TO TALK ABOUT THE FABELMANS IN YOUR CAREER. 182 00:12:10,863 --> 00:12:12,731 Steven: WELCOME. Stephen: THERE IS A 183 00:12:12,731 --> 00:12:15,334 MYTHICAL STORY THAT YOU GOT INTO UNIVERSALIST PART OF A TOUR AND 184 00:12:15,334 --> 00:12:18,237 JUST STAYED. Steven: I DID. 185 00:12:18,237 --> 00:12:21,006 I HID IN THE BATHROOM DURING A BATHROOM BREAK. 186 00:12:21,006 --> 00:12:25,511 THERE IS A BIG BUS. YOU GOT ON A BIG BUS AND THEY 187 00:12:25,511 --> 00:12:29,682 TOOK YOU AROUND A LOT AND SHOWED YOU THE BACK LOT TEN THE 188 00:12:29,682 --> 00:12:33,586 SOUNDSTAGES FROM OUTSIDE. I KEPT WANTING TO GET INSIDE THE 189 00:12:33,586 --> 00:12:35,654 SOUNDSTAGES. THEY WOULDN'T LET US OFF THE BUS 190 00:12:35,654 --> 00:12:38,624 SO THEY GAVE US ONE BATHROOM BREAK AND I STAYED IN THE STALL 191 00:12:38,624 --> 00:12:41,694 UNTIL I HEARD ALL THE DOORS CLOSE AND I GAVE IT ANOTHER 192 00:12:41,694 --> 00:12:44,930 10 MINUTES. I WAS SORT OF LOOSE ON THE LOT. 193 00:12:44,930 --> 00:12:48,234 Stephen: IS IT TRUE THAT YOU TOOK AN EMPTY OFFICE AND 194 00:12:48,234 --> 00:12:51,604 JUST CLAIMED IT AS YOUR OWN AND PUT YOUR NAME ON THE DOOR? 195 00:12:51,604 --> 00:12:54,473 Steven: YEAH. THERE WAS A CAMERA STORE IN 196 00:12:54,473 --> 00:13:00,779 LAUREL CANYON THAT SOLD THESE LITTLE TILE LETTERS, STICK ON 197 00:13:00,779 --> 00:13:01,947 LETTERS. I BOUGHT A SET OF THOSE THAT I 198 00:13:01,947 --> 00:13:06,519 PUT MY NAME IN THAT LITTLE DIRECTORY THAT YOU OPEN UP THE 199 00:13:06,519 --> 00:13:10,156 LITTLE DOOR, THE GLASS DOOR. I PUT MY NAME ON THAT OF THE 200 00:13:10,156 --> 00:13:13,993 ROOM UMBER. THAT WAS WHERE I HUNG MY HAT 201 00:13:13,993 --> 00:13:16,629 DURING THE SUMMER. THE SECOND SUMMER I HAD DONE 202 00:13:16,629 --> 00:13:18,931 THAT. Stephen: NOBODY KNEW THAT 203 00:13:18,931 --> 00:13:21,367 YOU WERE DOING THIS? Steven: YEAH, THERE WERE 204 00:13:21,367 --> 00:13:25,971 PEOPLE THAT KNEW I WAS DOING IT BUT NO ONE WOULD KICK ME OFF THE 205 00:13:25,971 --> 00:13:27,373 LOT. Stephen: THE VP OF THE 206 00:13:27,373 --> 00:13:33,179 STUDIO WAS IMPRESSED WITH YOUR SHORT FILM, AMBLIN. 207 00:13:33,179 --> 00:13:35,814 1968? '68 AND HE OFFERED YOU A 208 00:13:35,814 --> 00:13:38,884 SEVEN-YEAR DIRECTING CONTRACT AND IS PART OF THAT, THE VERY 209 00:13:38,884 --> 00:13:43,155 FIRST PERSON YOU EVER DIRECTED, I UNDERSTAND, WHO HAD A SAY 210 00:13:43,155 --> 00:13:48,027 UNION CARD WAS JOAN CRAWFORD. Steven: THAT'S RIGHT. 211 00:13:48,027 --> 00:13:49,662 YOU ARE HOW OLD? Steven: 22. 212 00:13:49,662 --> 00:13:54,466 Stephen: HOW DID YOU HAS A 22-YEAR-OLD GIVE NOTES AND 213 00:13:54,466 --> 00:13:58,671 DIRECT ON ICON LIKE JOAN CRAWFORD? 214 00:13:58,671 --> 00:14:06,312 WHERE DID YOU FINALLY, WHAT WHAT IS THE YIDDISH WORD, HUEVOS 215 00:14:06,312 --> 00:14:10,649 RANCHEROS? Steven: CHUTZPAH IS ANOTHER 216 00:14:10,649 --> 00:14:12,685 WORD. Stephen: WHAT IS THAT FIRST 217 00:14:12,685 --> 00:14:15,821 MOMENT, YOU WALK ON THE SET AND THERE IS JOHN CRAWFORD? 218 00:14:15,821 --> 00:14:19,391 Steven: I HAD MET JOAN BEFORE AT THE HOUSE THAT SHE WAS 219 00:14:19,391 --> 00:14:21,160 RENTING. SHE WANTED TO MEET ME. 220 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:25,497 HOW I WENT UP THERE WITH JOHN, THE ASSOCIATE PRODUCER. 221 00:14:25,497 --> 00:14:29,068 WE WERE SUPPOSED TO GO OUT TO DINNER, WE WALKED INTO THE FRONT 222 00:14:29,068 --> 00:14:32,504 DOOR AND JOAN TOOK ONE LOOK AT ME AND SAID, WE CAN'T GO TO 223 00:14:32,504 --> 00:14:35,140 DINNER NOW. PEOPLE WILL THINK YOU'RE MY SON. 224 00:14:35,140 --> 00:14:37,743 THAT WAS THE FIRST THING SHE SAID TO ME. 225 00:14:37,743 --> 00:14:39,812 THE FIRST WORDS OUT OF JOAN CRAWFORD'S MOUTH, PEOPLE WILL 226 00:14:39,812 --> 00:14:44,883 THINK YOU'RE MY SON. Stephen: WERE YOU SHAVING? 227 00:14:44,883 --> 00:14:46,585 Steven: NO. [LAUGHTER] 228 00:14:46,585 --> 00:14:52,057 I WAS USING CLEARASIL. Stephen: YOU DIRECTED A 229 00:14:52,057 --> 00:14:54,460 BUNCH OF TV. MARCUS WELBY MD, COLOMBO, THE 230 00:14:54,460 --> 00:14:58,297 NAME OF THE GAME. ANY ADVICE FOR THE YOUNG GUY 231 00:14:58,297 --> 00:15:00,366 SHOOTING THESE TV THINGS? ANYTHING YOU SEE IN THAT WORK 232 00:15:00,366 --> 00:15:04,870 AND YOU GO, I WISH I COULD GO BACK AND TELL HIM THIS? 233 00:15:04,870 --> 00:15:06,505 Steven: THERE'S ALWAYS THINGS. 234 00:15:06,505 --> 00:15:09,775 THIS IS MY DON'T LOOK AT A LOT OF MY MOVIES AFTER I'VE MADE 235 00:15:09,775 --> 00:15:12,544 THEM. I DON'T SIT DOWN. 236 00:15:12,544 --> 00:15:15,147 I AM NOT GLORIA SWANSON ON SUNSET BOULEVARD HAVING 237 00:15:15,147 --> 00:15:17,082 SCREENINGS OF HER OWN SILENT MOVIES OF HERSELF. 238 00:15:17,082 --> 00:15:19,485 I DON'T LOOK BACK THAT OFTEN BUT EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, I'LL SEE 239 00:15:19,485 --> 00:15:24,690 A MOVIE WITH MY KIDS. I WANT TO ACCOMPANY MY KIDS WHEN 240 00:15:24,690 --> 00:15:26,692 THEY SEE "E.T." FOR THE FIRST TIME. 241 00:15:26,692 --> 00:15:29,295 I DON'T WANT THEM TO SEE IT WITHOUT DAD SITTING THERE, 242 00:15:29,295 --> 00:15:33,365 ESPECIALLY THE SCARY PARTS OF THE BEGINNING. 243 00:15:33,365 --> 00:15:35,467 SOMETIMES I SEE THINGS THAT I HAD INTENDED TO DO THAT I DIDN'T 244 00:15:35,467 --> 00:15:40,139 DO AND SOMETIMES I SEE THINGS THAT WOULD'VE BEEN A BETTER IDEA 245 00:15:40,139 --> 00:15:42,875 THAN WHAT I AM NOW SAYING ALL THESE YEARS LATER. 246 00:15:42,875 --> 00:15:48,414 FOR THE MOST PART, "E.T." IS A PRETTY PERFECT MOVIE. 247 00:15:48,414 --> 00:15:54,186 Stephen: IT'S PRETTY GOOD. CALLING "E.T." PRETTY GOOD. 248 00:15:54,186 --> 00:15:57,489 Steven: ONE OF THE MOVIES I CAN LOOK AT AGAIN AND AGAIN. 249 00:15:57,489 --> 00:16:01,327 THERE'S ONLY A HANDFUL OF MOVIES I CAN WATCH MORE THAN ONCE, NOT 250 00:16:01,327 --> 00:16:03,529 A LOT. I'VE MADE LIKE 34 FILMS. 251 00:16:03,529 --> 00:16:07,132 I'M NOT GOING TO NAME WHICH ONES THEY ARE BEYOND "E.T.." 252 00:16:07,132 --> 00:16:09,401 THERE'S ABOUT FIVE OR SIX THAT I CAN WATCH AGAIN BUT I DON'T 253 00:16:09,401 --> 00:16:12,504 USUALLY DO THAT. Stephen: BEFORE "THE 254 00:16:12,504 --> 00:16:15,574 FABELMANS," YOU'VE SAID "CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND" 255 00:16:15,574 --> 00:16:19,078 WAS THE MOST PERSONAL FILM YOU HAD MADE. 256 00:16:19,078 --> 00:16:20,279 WHY? Steven: IT WAS THE FIRST 257 00:16:20,279 --> 00:16:24,850 FILM I'D EVER MADE ABOUT A FAMILY BREAKING UP. 258 00:16:24,850 --> 00:16:31,790 I HAD NEVER MADE A PICTURE OF A FAMILY COMING INTO, COLLIDING 259 00:16:31,790 --> 00:16:39,231 WITH THEIR VALUES OR WITH THEIR OBSESSIONS. 260 00:16:39,231 --> 00:16:42,634 SO A LOT OF THE BREAKUP, I WROTE THE SCRIPT. 261 00:16:42,634 --> 00:16:46,905 IT WAS VERY EVOCATIVE OF MY OWN LIFE AND THE DRAMA THAT WILL 262 00:16:46,905 --> 00:16:48,640 SUFFER. MY PARENTS ANNOUNCED TO ALL OF 263 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:52,478 US THAT THEY WERE SEPARATING. AND THEN LATER THEY WOULD BE 264 00:16:52,478 --> 00:16:54,446 DIVORCING. Stephen: FOR THE 265 00:16:54,446 --> 00:16:56,882 CHARACTERS, FOR THE KIDS, CERTAINLY IN "CLOSE ENCOUNTERS 266 00:16:56,882 --> 00:17:01,053 CHEMICALS BUT IT'S INEXPLICABLE. THEIR FATHER'S BEHAVIOR IS 267 00:17:01,053 --> 00:17:03,756 MADNESS. IS THAT WHAT IT FELT LIKE TO YOU 268 00:17:03,756 --> 00:17:06,892 AT THE TIME? Steven: I WAS NOT THAT 269 00:17:06,892 --> 00:17:08,127 YOUNG ONE MY PARENTS TO ANNOUNCE. 270 00:17:08,127 --> 00:17:10,896 I WAS 17. ABOUT READY TO GO OFF TO 271 00:17:10,896 --> 00:17:12,231 COLLEGE. I THINK IT IS MADNESS. 272 00:17:12,231 --> 00:17:19,138 YOU'RE SO CONFIDENT. IT MAY SNOW IN THE DESERT IN 273 00:17:19,138 --> 00:17:21,840 ARIZONA THAT WOULDN'T SURPRISE YOU SOMEDAY BUT YOUR PARENTS 274 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:27,112 WILL NEVER LEAVE YOU. YOU WILL NEVER BE UNACCOMPANIED. 275 00:17:27,112 --> 00:17:30,082 WEN I SAW THAT HAPPENING, WHAT MY SISTER SAW THAT ALL OF A 276 00:17:30,082 --> 00:17:35,888 SUDDEN WHAT WE CONSIDERED TO BE NORMAL WITH A MOM AND DAD, WE 277 00:17:35,888 --> 00:17:39,057 WERE SUDDENLY GOING TO HAVE A MOM LIVING THERE AND A FATHER 278 00:17:39,057 --> 00:17:40,325 LIVING THERE. WE'RE GOING TO SEPARATE AND 279 00:17:40,325 --> 00:17:46,198 DIVIDE UP. BETH HAS INFORMED MANY OF MY 280 00:17:46,198 --> 00:17:49,635 STORIES. Stephen: WHEN WE COME BACK, 281 00:17:49,635 --> 00:17:52,671 I ASK STEVEN SPIELBERG WHY NOW IS THE RIGHT TIME FOR HIM TO 282 00:17:52,671 --> 00:17:53,439 MAKE "THE FABELMANS." STICK AROUND. 283 00:18:00,546 --> 00:18:01,246 ♪ ♪ Stephen: WELCOME BACK, 284 00:18:01,246 --> 00:18:03,649 EVERYBODY. NOW HE RETURNED TO MY 285 00:18:03,649 --> 00:18:07,553 CONVERSATION WITH STEVEN SPIELBERG. 286 00:18:07,553 --> 00:18:11,457 HAD YOU BEEN THINKING ABOUT TELLING THE STORY OF THE 287 00:18:11,457 --> 00:18:13,425 FABELMANS FOR A LONG TIME? Steven: FOR YEARS. 288 00:18:13,425 --> 00:18:16,695 Stephen: WHAT KEPT YOU FROM TELLING IT BEFORE THIS OR WHY 289 00:18:16,695 --> 00:18:19,631 WAS THIS THE RIGHT MOMENT? Steven: FOR ONE THING, I 290 00:18:19,631 --> 00:18:22,000 HAD A LOT OF PASSIONS AND THINGS, STORIES I WAS TELLING 291 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:26,038 HIM THINGS I HAD ON MY WISH LIST. 292 00:18:26,038 --> 00:18:28,273 IT WOULDN'T EVEN CALL IT A BUCKET LIST. 293 00:18:28,273 --> 00:18:31,143 I REALLY WANT TO MAKE THIS KIND OF MOVIE. 294 00:18:31,143 --> 00:18:35,948 I WANT TO GET INTO THAT GENRE. I WANT TO DO A MOVIE ABOUT, I 295 00:18:35,948 --> 00:18:40,886 WANT TO DO A MOVIE ABOUT AI. I HAD ALL THESE OTHER THINGS. 296 00:18:40,886 --> 00:18:45,491 I REALIZED I KEPT PUTTING SEGMENTS OF THE FABELMANS' STORY 297 00:18:45,491 --> 00:18:48,227 INTO ALL OF THESE OTHER FILMS. Stephen: IT'S A DARING 298 00:18:48,227 --> 00:18:52,898 THING TO LOOK AT YOUR OWN LIFE, I THINK, IF YOU CAN DO IT 299 00:18:52,898 --> 00:18:54,032 HONESTLY. THERE ARE THINGS YOU MAYBE 300 00:18:54,032 --> 00:18:56,535 DIDN'T WANT TO REMEMBER ABOUT YOUR LIFE. 301 00:18:56,535 --> 00:18:59,271 IS THERE ANY POINT WHERE YOU SAID, THIS MIGHT BE A MISTAKE? 302 00:18:59,271 --> 00:19:03,809 Steven: YES. I THOUGHT BY TELLING A STORY 303 00:19:03,809 --> 00:19:08,714 ABOUT HOW I DISCOVERED MY MOM WAS HAVING AN AFFAIR OF THE 304 00:19:08,714 --> 00:19:11,550 HEART WITH HER AND MY FATHER'S BEST FRIEND AND MY FATHER'S 305 00:19:11,550 --> 00:19:15,988 BUSINESS PARTNER, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT NEVER HAD TO BE 306 00:19:15,988 --> 00:19:20,492 PUBLICLY EXPRESSED. I HAD A LOT OF SECOND THOUGHTS 307 00:19:20,492 --> 00:19:24,830 ABOUT THAT. BUT TO HIS CREDIT, TONY KUSHNER 308 00:19:24,830 --> 00:19:30,068 CONTINUED TO SAY, THAT IS THE MacGUFFIN OF THIS MOVIE. 309 00:19:30,068 --> 00:19:34,239 THE CENTER RING, THE CENTER OF YOUR LIFE, THE CENTER RING. 310 00:19:34,239 --> 00:19:36,108 THAT'S WHERE YOU GOING TO BE FLYING THROUGH THE AIR ON A 311 00:19:36,108 --> 00:19:38,944 TRAPEZE AND THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A NET. 312 00:19:38,944 --> 00:19:43,215 I THINK YOU CAN AFFORD WITH ALL YOUR SUCCESS TO POSSIBLY SLIP 313 00:19:43,215 --> 00:19:46,418 AND FALL TO HER DEATH. DON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT BECAUSE 314 00:19:46,418 --> 00:19:48,654 YOU'VE EARNED THE RIGHT TO TELL THE STORY. 315 00:19:48,654 --> 00:19:50,989 Stephen: IT'S BRILLIANT MOVIE. 316 00:19:50,989 --> 00:19:53,692 I THINK IT'S VERY BEAUTIFUL. THAT MIGHT BE THE GREATEST 317 00:19:53,692 --> 00:19:58,931 MOMENT IN IT, THE MOMENT OF DISCOVERY. 318 00:19:58,931 --> 00:20:08,440 WHERE SAM, WITHOUT WORDS, IN THE PUREST FILM WAY DISCOVER 319 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:23,855 SOMETHING TO THE LENS OF HIS CAMERA. 320 00:20:23,855 --> 00:20:41,106 [FILM CLICKING] 321 00:20:44,543 --> 00:20:48,013 DO YOU HAVE A CONSCIOUS SENSE THAT YOU CAN SEE MORE THROUGH 322 00:20:48,013 --> 00:20:50,115 THE LENS AND YOU SEE IN YOUR DAILY LIFE? 323 00:20:50,115 --> 00:20:55,020 Steven: YES. BECAUSE I OBVIOUSLY OBSERVED MY 324 00:20:55,020 --> 00:21:00,859 MOM'S BEHAVIOR, HOW SHE LIT UP WHEN SHE WAS AROUND BERNIE. 325 00:21:00,859 --> 00:21:03,929 I NEVER THOUGHT THERE WAS ANYTHING UNTOWARD ABOUT IT. 326 00:21:03,929 --> 00:21:06,898 I WAS NEVER SUSPICIOUS ABOUT IT. MY MOM HAD A BEST FRIEND WHO 327 00:21:06,898 --> 00:21:10,369 HAPPENED TO BE MY DAD'S BUSINESS PARTNER. 328 00:21:10,369 --> 00:21:13,338 SOMEHOW WHEN I PUT AN ASPECT RATIO AROUND THAT LOOKED THROUGH 329 00:21:13,338 --> 00:21:24,249 MY LITTLE BOLEX 8 MILLIMETERS CAMERA AND CUTTING THE FILM 330 00:21:24,249 --> 00:21:26,118 TOGETHER, THE FILM TOLD ME THE TRUTH WHERE MY EYES COULD 331 00:21:26,118 --> 00:21:31,256 PERCEIVE IT. IT WAS SOMETHING I COULDN'T SEE. 332 00:21:31,256 --> 00:21:35,994 AS A HUMAN INTERACTING WITH MY MOM AND DAD AND BERNIE, ON THESE 333 00:21:35,994 --> 00:21:40,599 CAMPING TRIPS. SOMEHOW ON THAT LITTLE SCREEN OF 334 00:21:40,599 --> 00:21:44,503 THE MOVIE EDITOR, I SAW SOMETHING THAT I'D NEVER SOUND 335 00:21:44,503 --> 00:21:46,772 WITH MY OWN EYES. Stephen: WHAT WAS IT LIKE 336 00:21:46,772 --> 00:21:50,809 TO STEP ON THE SET FOR THE FIRST DAY WITH PAUL DANO AND MICHELLE 337 00:21:50,809 --> 00:21:53,545 WILLIAMS AS YOUR MOM AND DAD? Steven: I THOUGHT IT WAS 338 00:21:53,545 --> 00:21:56,248 GOING TO BE ROUTINE. Stephen: DONE IT A MILLION 339 00:21:56,248 --> 00:21:57,349 TIMES. Steven: DONE IT A MILLION 340 00:21:57,349 --> 00:21:59,685 TIMES. I KNOW IT THE FIRST DAY OF 341 00:21:59,685 --> 00:22:02,320 SHOOTING IS LIKE. I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO GET THE 342 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,456 CAST ASSEMBLED AND GET THE BLOCKING COME OF THE CAST AND 343 00:22:04,456 --> 00:22:07,893 THE CAMERA. IT WAS VERY ROUTINE. 344 00:22:07,893 --> 00:22:10,562 BUT I HAVE NEVER SEEN THEM TOGETHER. 345 00:22:10,562 --> 00:22:15,434 I'D ONLY SEEN MICHELLE IN HER COSTUME WITH MARK BRIDGES, WHO 346 00:22:15,434 --> 00:22:19,638 DESIGNED THE COSTUMES, AND PAUL DANO, I SAW THEM SEPARATE. 347 00:22:19,638 --> 00:22:24,009 THE FIRST DAY OF SHOOTING, MARK BRIDGES CAME OVER TO ME AND 348 00:22:24,009 --> 00:22:28,847 SAID, I'VE GOT PAUL AND MICHELLE HERE. 349 00:22:28,847 --> 00:22:30,849 THEIR HAIR AND MAKEUP AND COSTUMES. 350 00:22:30,849 --> 00:22:34,820 I WAS TALKING TO CHRISTY. I TURNED AROUND AND I TURNED 351 00:22:34,820 --> 00:22:37,656 AROUND AND THERE WAS MY FATHER AND MY MOTHER. 352 00:22:37,656 --> 00:22:40,058 I JUST BURST INTO TEARS. JUST LIKE THAT. 353 00:22:40,058 --> 00:22:43,462 I DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT. IT JUST HAPPENED. 354 00:22:43,462 --> 00:22:47,933 MICHELLE RAN TO ME, HUGGED ME. PAUL CAME AROUND THE BACK OF ME, 355 00:22:47,933 --> 00:22:51,870 HE'S REALLY TALL, HUG ME AROUND THE SHOULDERS AND JUST HELD ME. 356 00:22:51,870 --> 00:22:55,507 BY THE WAY, AND GIVEN THEM SPEECHES LONG BEFORE THE FIRST 357 00:22:55,507 --> 00:22:58,276 DAY OF SHOOTING. I GOT ALL MY TEARS OUT IN THE 358 00:22:58,276 --> 00:23:01,646 SCRIPT WITH TONY KUSHNER. WHEN TONY AND I COWROTE THIS, I 359 00:23:01,646 --> 00:23:03,849 GOT ALL MY EMOTION OUT. I'M A PROFESSIONAL. 360 00:23:03,849 --> 00:23:05,717 DON'T WORRY ABOUT ME. YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE CARE O 361 00:23:05,717 --> 00:23:08,220 ME. MY JOB IS TO TAKE CARE OF YOU 362 00:23:08,220 --> 00:23:13,625 AND GUIDE YOU TO GIVING SOME GREAT PERFORMANCES. 363 00:23:13,625 --> 00:23:15,727 IT WASN'T TO BE. [LAUGHTER] 364 00:23:15,727 --> 00:23:17,329 Stephen: LET'S TALK ABOUT THE MONKEY. 365 00:23:17,329 --> 00:23:19,731 HOW LONG DOES YOUR FAMILY HAVE THE MONKEY? 366 00:23:19,731 --> 00:23:21,500 Steven: MY FAMILY DIDN'T HAVE THE MONKEY. 367 00:23:21,500 --> 00:23:26,872 MY MOM HAD THE MONKEY. Stephen: YOUR SPLITTING 368 00:23:26,872 --> 00:23:28,840 HAIRS, STEVEN SPIELBERG. IF THERE IS A MONKEY IN THE 369 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,510 HOUSE, THE WHOLE FAMILY HAS THE MONKEY. 370 00:23:31,510 --> 00:23:34,279 Steven: I DIDN'T PUT THIS IN "THE FABELMANS" BUT THE 371 00:23:34,279 --> 00:23:40,252 MONKEY WOULD BASICALLY THROW ITS FECES AT US TO THE MISSION OF 372 00:23:40,252 --> 00:23:44,456 HIS CAGE. MONKEY. 373 00:23:44,456 --> 00:23:49,027 Stephen: YOUNG SAM, AND I ASSUME YOUNG STEVEN SPIELBERG IS 374 00:23:49,027 --> 00:23:52,831 BULLIED AND FEELS ALIENATED BY HIS JEWISHNESS. 375 00:23:52,831 --> 00:23:56,535 YOU HAVE SAID IT TOOK YEARS FOR YOU TO EMBRACE YOUR HERITAGE. 376 00:23:56,535 --> 00:24:03,041 NOT DOING SO FULLY UNTIL YOU'RE ACTUALLY MAKING "SCHINDLER'S 377 00:24:03,041 --> 00:24:11,183 LIST." YOU CREATED THE SHOA FOUNDATION. 378 00:24:11,183 --> 00:24:15,654 I'M CURIOUS, AS SOMEONE WHO HAS EXAMINED HIS OWN JEWISHNESS, DO 379 00:24:15,654 --> 00:24:27,098 YOU FIND IT SURPRISING, THE RISE OF PUBLIC ANTI-SEMITISM NOT ONLY 380 00:24:27,098 --> 00:24:30,202 IN THE UNITED STATES BUT IN AUTHORITARIAN COUNTRIES ALL 381 00:24:30,202 --> 00:24:35,540 AROUND THE WORLD NOW? Steven: I FIND IT VERY, 382 00:24:35,540 --> 00:24:38,009 VERY SURPRISING. ANTI-SEMITISM HAS ALWAYS BEEN 383 00:24:38,009 --> 00:24:40,779 THERE. IT'S EITHER BEEN JUST AROUND THE 384 00:24:40,779 --> 00:24:43,682 CORNER AND SLIGHTLY OUT OF SIGHT BUT ALWAYS LURKING. 385 00:24:43,682 --> 00:24:49,855 OR IT HAS BEEN MUCH MORE OVERT, LIKE IN GERMANY IN THE '30s. 386 00:24:49,855 --> 00:24:54,993 BUT NOT SINCE GERMANY AND THE '30s HAVE I WITNESSED 387 00:24:54,993 --> 00:25:00,699 ANTI-SEMITISM NO LONGER LURKING BUT STANDING PROUD WITH HANDS ON 388 00:25:00,699 --> 00:25:06,571 HIPS LIKE HITLER AND MUSSOLINI, KIND OF DARING US TO DEFY IT. 389 00:25:06,571 --> 00:25:10,876 I'VE NEVER EXPERIENCED THIS IN MY ENTIRE LIFE ESPECIALLY IN 390 00:25:10,876 --> 00:25:12,410 THIS COUNTRY. Stephen: IT'S DISTURBING. 391 00:25:12,410 --> 00:25:15,814 IT'S HEARTBREAKING. DO YOU HAVE ANY THEORIES AS TO 392 00:25:15,814 --> 00:25:22,187 WHY IT'S RAISING ITS UGLY HEAD? Steven: SOMEHOW THE 393 00:25:22,187 --> 00:25:28,460 MARGINALIZING OF PEOPLE THAT AREN'T PART OF SOME KIND OF A 394 00:25:28,460 --> 00:25:35,233 MAJORITY RACE IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN CREEPING UP ON US FOR 395 00:25:35,233 --> 00:25:41,806 YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS. SOMEHOW. 396 00:25:41,806 --> 00:25:48,813 2014, 2015, 2016, HEAT BECAME A KIND OF MEMBERSHIP. 397 00:25:48,813 --> 00:25:51,683 HATE BECAME A KIND OF MEMBERSHIP TO A CLUB THAT HAS GOTTEN MORE 398 00:25:51,683 --> 00:25:56,054 MEMBERS THAN I EVER THOUGHT WAS POSSIBLE IN AMERICA. 399 00:25:56,054 --> 00:25:58,156 HATE AND ANTI-SEMITISM GO HAND-IN-HAND. 400 00:25:58,156 --> 00:26:01,226 YOU CAN'T SEPARATE ONE FROM THE OTHER. 401 00:26:01,226 --> 00:26:04,729 Stephen: IS ONE OF THE GREATEST, GATORS IN THE WORLD, 402 00:26:04,729 --> 00:26:13,405 WHAT GIVES YOU HOPE THAT THE GAMBIT THAT IS DIVISIVENESS AND 403 00:26:13,405 --> 00:26:20,178 HATE AND ANGER IS THE POLITICAL POLICY, THAT IT WILL NOT 404 00:26:20,178 --> 00:26:22,080 SUCCEED? WHAT IS THE COUNTERVAILING 405 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:26,551 MESSAGE TO THAT THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO SAY? 406 00:26:26,551 --> 00:26:31,456 Steven: I JUST THINK WITHOUT PAINTING A NAIVE 407 00:26:31,456 --> 00:26:37,028 PORTRAIT OF MYSELF SITTING HERE TALKING TO YOU AND TO QUOTE 408 00:26:37,028 --> 00:26:41,733 ANNE FRANK, I THINK SHE'S RIGHT WHEN SHE SAID IN MOST PEOPLE 409 00:26:41,733 --> 00:26:46,237 THERE IS GOOD. SHE SAW GOOD IN MOST PEOPLE. 410 00:26:46,237 --> 00:26:51,443 I THINK ESSENTIALLY AT OUR CORE, THERE IS GOODNESS AND THERE IS 411 00:26:51,443 --> 00:26:54,813 EMPATHY. Stephen: WHEN WE COME BACK, 412 00:26:54,813 --> 00:26:56,314 STEVEN SPIELBERG AND I ARE JOINED BY LEGENDARY COMPOSER, 413 00:26:56,314 --> 00:26:58,717 THE GREAT JOHN WILLIAMS. STICK AROUND 414 00:27:05,557 --> 00:27:07,892 Stephen: WELCOME BACK, EVERYBODY. 415 00:27:07,892 --> 00:27:10,795 FOLKS, AS IF IT WASN'T EXCITING ENOUGH TO TALK TO 416 00:27:10,795 --> 00:27:16,167 STEVEN SPIELBERG, WE WERE JOINED BY A VERY SPECIAL GUEST. 417 00:27:16,167 --> 00:27:17,802 JOHN WILLIAMS HAS BEEN STEVEN SPIELBERG'S CLOSEST 418 00:27:17,802 --> 00:27:20,171 COLLABORATOR. THEY HAVE WORKED ON NEARLY EVERY 419 00:27:20,171 --> 00:27:27,312 PROJECT TOGETHER FROM 1974'S "SUGAR LAND EXPRESS" TO 420 00:27:27,312 --> 00:27:30,915 "THE FABELMANS," JOHN WILLIAMS' 53RD OSCAR NOMINATION. 421 00:27:30,915 --> 00:27:33,585 HE HAS BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR SOME OF THE MOST ICONIC SCORES IN 422 00:27:33,585 --> 00:27:44,496 FILM HISTORY. [LIGHT, DELICATE MUSIC] 423 00:27:44,496 --> 00:27:47,298 Stephen: YOUR 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF WORKING TOGETHER. 424 00:27:47,298 --> 00:27:52,037 YOU MET IN 1972. THE FIRST FILM YOU DID WAS 425 00:27:52,037 --> 00:27:54,706 "SUGAR LAND EXPRESS" IN 1974 WITH STEVEN. 426 00:27:54,706 --> 00:27:58,076 IS IT TRUE THAT YOU MET ON BASICALLY A FIRST DATE THAT 427 00:27:58,076 --> 00:28:02,480 SOMEBODY ELSE SET UP? WAS IT A BLIND DATE? 428 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,416 John: SOMEBODY SET UP A LUNCH MEETING FOR US IN SOME 429 00:28:04,416 --> 00:28:08,820 FANCY RESTAURANT. THE HEAD WAITER CAME AND HE SAID 430 00:28:08,820 --> 00:28:12,657 I WILL BRING YOU TO MR. SPIELBERG. 431 00:28:12,657 --> 00:28:17,028 I SAW THIS TEENAGER, I THOUGHT, YOU'VE GOT TO FORGIVE ME. 432 00:28:17,028 --> 00:28:21,099 TELL THE STORY. Steven: I'M NOT EVEN HERE. 433 00:28:21,099 --> 00:28:23,935 TELL THE STORY. John: I THOUGHT THAT IS 434 00:28:23,935 --> 00:28:28,440 MR. SPIELBERG'S SON. IS SPIELBERG? 435 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,644 WITHIN A MINUTE OR TWO? I REALIZED IT WAS SOME OF THE 436 00:28:32,644 --> 00:28:37,415 VERY, VERY SPECIAL WITH KEENAN WRESTLING AND DAZZLING INTELLECT 437 00:28:37,415 --> 00:28:40,085 WHO REMEMBERED EVERYTHING I'D EVER WRITTEN. 438 00:28:40,085 --> 00:28:42,921 Steven: I HAD A HUGE COLLECTION OF SOUNDTRACKS AND 439 00:28:42,921 --> 00:28:49,928 WHEN I HEARD JOHN'S SCORE, I SAID TO MYSELF, IF I EVER GET A 440 00:28:49,928 --> 00:28:54,265 CHANCE TO DIRECT MOVIES, I WANT THIS GUY TO SCORE ALL OF THEM. 441 00:28:54,265 --> 00:28:57,936 THIS WAS BACK IN 1972. Stephen: I HAVE A VERY 442 00:28:57,936 --> 00:29:00,572 SIMPLE QUESTION, WHAT IS YOUR JOB? 443 00:29:00,572 --> 00:29:04,809 I DON'T MEAN THAT FICTITIOUSLY. John: IT'S A WONDERFUL 444 00:29:04,809 --> 00:29:05,810 QUESTION. IT'S VERY SIMPLE. 445 00:29:05,810 --> 00:29:08,880 I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN GIVE YOU A SIMPLE ANSWER. 446 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:17,455 I THINK THE FIRST ANSWER I CAN GIVE YOU IS TO INFORM AND 447 00:29:17,455 --> 00:29:20,658 IMPROVE THE PROCESS OF STORYTELLING THROUGH MUSIC, IF I 448 00:29:20,658 --> 00:29:22,494 CAN. DESCRIBE THE CHARACTERS, 449 00:29:22,494 --> 00:29:25,997 DESCRIBED THE ATMOSPHERE, THE AMBIENCE OF WHAT THE STORY 450 00:29:25,997 --> 00:29:30,068 REQUIRES. MY JOB IS TO BE A COLLABORATOR 451 00:29:30,068 --> 00:29:33,037 WITH THE DIRECTOR IN ACHIEVING ALL THESE THINGS. 452 00:29:33,037 --> 00:29:37,542 THE ATMOSPHERICS, EMOTIONAL CONTENT AND SO ON. 453 00:29:37,542 --> 00:29:40,945 Stephen: STEVEN, YOU HAVE SAID I DEPEND ON JON MORE THAN I 454 00:29:40,945 --> 00:29:43,715 DEPEND ON ANYONE TO REWRITE MY MOVIES MUSICALLY AND PUT THEM ON 455 00:29:43,715 --> 00:29:45,216 A RUN HIGHER THAN I COULD EVER REACH. 456 00:29:45,216 --> 00:29:49,487 WHAT DO YOU THINK IT IS ABOUT JOHN THAT ALLOWS HIM TO 457 00:29:49,487 --> 00:29:54,592 UNDERSTAND YOUR INTENTION AND AMPLIFY THAT IN NO WAY YOU CAN'T 458 00:29:54,592 --> 00:29:57,195 REACH HERSELF? Steven: JOHN PUTS A LOT OF 459 00:29:57,195 --> 00:30:02,667 STOCK IN THE FIRST IMPRESSION OF WATCHING THE STORY ON THE SPOOL. 460 00:30:02,667 --> 00:30:05,503 WHEN HE SEES THE FILM FOR THE FIRST TIME. 461 00:30:05,503 --> 00:30:11,876 HE PUTS A LOT OF STOCK IN THEM. I THINK THERE IS SOME KIND OF, 462 00:30:11,876 --> 00:30:17,015 SOMETHING HAPPENS WHICH IS BEYOND, CERTAINLY WAY BEYOND MY 463 00:30:17,015 --> 00:30:19,884 ABILITY TO SORT OF DO AN AUTOPSY ON THE GENIUS OF JOHN WILLIAMS. 464 00:30:19,884 --> 00:30:24,055 I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT. I JUST KNOW SOMETHING HAPPENS. 465 00:30:24,055 --> 00:30:25,957 THE FILM CONNECTS. JOHNNY HAS IDEAS AND IS WATCHING 466 00:30:25,957 --> 00:30:31,796 THE FILM. HE LET THE STORY ON SPOOLING 467 00:30:31,796 --> 00:30:35,099 ROLLOVER HIM, MAKE HIM FEEL SOMETHING AND HE SOMEHOW ABLE TO 468 00:30:35,099 --> 00:30:37,635 TAKE THOSE FEELINGS, THOSE EMOTIONS, AND IS ABLE TO FIND 469 00:30:37,635 --> 00:30:43,107 THE MUSICAL EQUIVALENT OF EMOTION, OF ENERGY, OF CREATING 470 00:30:43,107 --> 00:30:47,779 A MUSICAL NARRATIVE, BINDING ALL THE DISPARATE PARTS OF A MOVIE 471 00:30:47,779 --> 00:30:53,518 STORY INTO A VERY SMOOTH NARRATIVE MUSICALLY AND HE JUST 472 00:30:53,518 --> 00:30:59,090 HAS A WAY OF DOING THIS UNLIKE ANYONE I'VE EVER SEEN PERFORM 473 00:30:59,090 --> 00:31:02,694 HIS JOB. John: WE JUST AGREE ABOUT 474 00:31:02,694 --> 00:31:04,462 AESTHETIC CHOICES. MATTERS OF TASTE. 475 00:31:04,462 --> 00:31:09,801 WE HAVE NEVER HAD AN ARGUMENT. Stephen: REALLY? 476 00:31:09,801 --> 00:31:12,003 Steven: NO. 29 FILMS WE HAVE DONE TOGETHER. 477 00:31:12,003 --> 00:31:14,839 SPHERE AND THAT IS REALLY SURPRISING QUESTION LIKE IS IT 478 00:31:14,839 --> 00:31:18,543 BECAUSE YOU BOTH ACKNOWLEDGE EACH OTHER'S LANES, YOU 479 00:31:18,543 --> 00:31:19,777 ARE A MASTER SPEAKING TO A MASTER? 480 00:31:19,777 --> 00:31:23,982 Steven: I DON'T GET THAT AS MUCH AS WE ARE IN THE SAME LANE 481 00:31:23,982 --> 00:31:28,019 WITHOUT PLAYING BUMPER CARS. WE HAVE A WAY. 482 00:31:28,019 --> 00:31:31,689 I HAVE NEVER NOT LIKED SOMETHING THAT JOHN HAS WRITTEN FOR ONE OF 483 00:31:31,689 --> 00:31:34,092 MY MOVIES. I'VE NEVER SAID "OH, I DON'T 484 00:31:34,092 --> 00:31:37,562 FEEL THAT'S RIGHT FOR MY MOVIE." OR "I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD USE 485 00:31:37,562 --> 00:31:40,832 THIS PIECE OF MUSIC AT THIS POINT." 486 00:31:40,832 --> 00:31:44,902 EVERYTHING JOHNNY HAS WRITTEN HAS FIT LIKE A GLOVE. 487 00:31:44,902 --> 00:31:47,739 THERE'S NEVER BEEN BUMPS ABOUT MY DISAGREEING WITH SOMETHING 488 00:31:47,739 --> 00:31:52,410 THAT HE HAS COMPOSED. EVER. 489 00:31:52,410 --> 00:31:55,813 Stephen: WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME AND TONIGHT'S SHOW 490 00:31:55,813 --> 00:31:57,582 WITH MY FULL CONVERSATION WITH JOHN WILLIAMS BUT TUNE IN NEXT 491 00:31:57,582 --> 00:32:00,885 WEEK. WE'LL HAVE MORE WITH STEVEN AND 492 00:32:00,885 --> 00:32:03,755 JOHN ON THEIR FAMOUS COLLABORATIONS AND WHEN WE 493 00:32:03,755 --> 00:32:06,424 RETURN, ASK STEVEN SPIELBERG ABOUT UFOs. 494 00:32:06,424 --> 00:32:07,358 STICK AROUND. 495 00:32:13,798 --> 00:32:15,433 Stephen: WELCOME BACK, EVERYBODY. 496 00:32:15,433 --> 00:32:18,670 AND NOW THE THRILLING CONCLUSION OF MY CONVERSATION WITH THE MAN 497 00:32:18,670 --> 00:32:23,474 I NOW FEEL COMFORTABLE CALLING "MR. SPIELBERG." 498 00:32:23,474 --> 00:32:25,076 LET'S TALK ABOUT UFOs FOR A MINUTE. 499 00:32:25,076 --> 00:32:29,814 WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW? 500 00:32:29,814 --> 00:32:32,684 Steven: OH, IT'S EXCITING. [LAUGHS] 501 00:32:32,684 --> 00:32:35,687 THERE IS SOMETHING OUT THERE. Stephen: SO YOU'RE A 502 00:32:35,687 --> 00:32:36,888 BELIEVER? PICCHU I DON'T KNOW IF I'M A 503 00:32:36,888 --> 00:32:39,691 BELIEVER IN THE SENSE THAT I'M KIND OF A PERSON THAT WOULD 504 00:32:39,691 --> 00:32:44,062 THINK, I'VE GOT TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO BELIEVE IT. 505 00:32:44,062 --> 00:32:46,698 I CAN MAKE STUFF UP AND MAKE MOVIES ABOUT THINGS THAT I'VE 506 00:32:46,698 --> 00:32:48,933 NEVER SEEN OR EXPERIENCED BUT IN TERMS OF REALLY BELIEVING 507 00:32:48,933 --> 00:32:53,204 SOMETHING I THINK I WOULD HAVE TO HAVE MY OWN CLOSE ENCOUNTER. 508 00:32:53,204 --> 00:32:56,007 I HAVE NEVER SEEN A UFO. I WISH I DID. 509 00:32:56,007 --> 00:32:57,775 Stephen: NOTHING THAT'S UNEXPLAINABLE? 510 00:32:57,775 --> 00:32:59,610 Steven: I'VE NEVER SEEN AN THING I COULDN'T EXPLAIN. 511 00:32:59,610 --> 00:33:04,982 BUT I BELIEVE CERTAIN PEOPLE WHO HAVE SEEN THINGS THAT THEY CAN'T 512 00:33:04,982 --> 00:33:09,354 EXPLAIN, THAT'S UNEXPLAINABLE. I THINK WHAT HAS BEEN COMING UP 513 00:33:09,354 --> 00:33:12,724 RECENTLY IS FASCINATING, JUST ABSOLUTELY FASCINATING. 514 00:33:12,724 --> 00:33:18,329 I THINK THE SECRECY THAT IS SHROUDING ALL OF THESE SIGHTIGS 515 00:33:18,329 --> 00:33:23,167 AND THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY UNTIL FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT 516 00:33:23,167 --> 00:33:26,704 COMPELS CERTAIN MATERIALS TO BE RELEASED PUBLICLY, I THINK THAT 517 00:33:26,704 --> 00:33:32,243 THERE IS SOMETHING GOING ON THAT SIMPLY NEEDS EXTRAORDINARY DUE 518 00:33:32,243 --> 00:33:34,045 DILIGENCE. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT 519 00:33:34,045 --> 00:33:36,848 IT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE. 520 00:33:36,848 --> 00:33:43,020 MY IMAGINATION AND MY LOVE. I DON'T BELIEVE WE ARE ALONE IN 521 00:33:43,020 --> 00:33:45,656 THE UNIVERSE. I THINK IT'S MATHEMATICALLY 522 00:33:45,656 --> 00:33:49,160 IMPOSSIBLE THAT WE ARE THE ONLY INTELLIGENT SPECIES IN THE 523 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,963 COSMOS. I THINK THAT'S TOTALLY 524 00:33:51,963 --> 00:33:54,966 IMPOSSIBLE. AT THE SAME TIME, IT ALMOST 525 00:33:54,966 --> 00:33:58,202 SEEMS IMPOSSIBLE THAT ANYBODY WOULD VISIT US FROM 400 MILLION 526 00:33:58,202 --> 00:34:00,872 LIGHT-YEARS FROM HERE, EXCEPT IN THE MOVIES, UNLESS IT FIGURES 527 00:34:00,872 --> 00:34:07,178 OUT SOME WAY OF SORT OF BASICALLY JUMPING THE SHARK, SO 528 00:34:07,178 --> 00:34:12,750 TO SPEAK, AND GETTING HERE THROUGH WORMHOLES. 529 00:34:12,750 --> 00:34:15,186 I'M NOT AN ASTROPHYSICIST. I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK THE 530 00:34:15,186 --> 00:34:17,688 LANGUAGE OF THE PEOPLE THAT DO IT SO WELL AT JPL. 531 00:34:17,688 --> 00:34:22,393 BUT I JUST KNOW AS A PERSON THAT MAKES MOVIE AND USES HIS 532 00:34:22,393 --> 00:34:30,601 IMAGINATION AND ALSO AS A PERSON THAT'S INSATIABLY CURIOUS ABOUT 533 00:34:30,601 --> 00:34:36,207 UFOs, OR UAPs, THERE IS SOMETHING GOING ON THAT WE ARE 534 00:34:36,207 --> 00:34:39,043 REALLY NOT-- THAT IS NOT BEING DISCLOSED TO 535 00:34:39,043 --> 00:34:40,611 US. Stephen: SENATORS THAT HAVE 536 00:34:40,611 --> 00:34:43,581 BEEN BRIEFED ON THIS, AND NOT JUST THESE LATEST BALLOON 537 00:34:43,581 --> 00:34:45,983 INCIDENTS, SENATORS WHO HAVE BEEN BRIEFED ON THE SAID THERE 538 00:34:45,983 --> 00:34:48,286 ARE THINGS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DESERVE TO KNOW ON THE QUOTE I 539 00:34:48,286 --> 00:34:51,522 LOVE IS "AND THEY'RE READY TO LEARN." 540 00:34:51,522 --> 00:34:57,562 THAT SAYS TO ME THERE IS SOMETHING SORT OF PARADIGM 541 00:34:57,562 --> 00:35:00,565 SHATTERING ABOUT THIS NEWS THAT WE ARE NOT BEING TOLD. 542 00:35:00,565 --> 00:35:03,134 Steven: THE MOST OPTIMISTIC THING I FEEL ABOUT THESE THINGS 543 00:35:03,134 --> 00:35:08,406 THAT WE ARE SEEING IN THE SKIES, THE ARMY AND NAVY AND AIR FORCE 544 00:35:08,406 --> 00:35:13,044 ARE RECORDING ON THEIR GUN CAMERAS, IS THAT WHAT IF THEY'RE 545 00:35:13,044 --> 00:35:16,414 NOT FROM AN ADVANCED CIVILIZATION 300 MILLION 546 00:35:16,414 --> 00:35:21,018 LIGHT-YEARS FROM HERE. WHAT IF IT'S US 500,000 YEARS 547 00:35:21,018 --> 00:35:25,189 INTO THE FUTURE THAT IS COMING BACK TO DOCUMENT THE SECOND HALF 548 00:35:25,189 --> 00:35:29,927 OF THE 20TH CENTURY AND INTO THE 21ST CENTURY BECAUSE THEY ARE 549 00:35:29,927 --> 00:35:32,864 ANTHROPOLOGISTS AND THEY KNOW SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T QUITE 550 00:35:32,864 --> 00:35:39,904 KNOW YET THAT HAS OCCURRED. AND THEY ARE TRYING TO TRACK THE 551 00:35:39,904 --> 00:35:42,707 LAST 100 YEARS OF OUR HISTORY? Stephen: THE HOPEFUL PART 552 00:35:42,707 --> 00:35:45,977 OF THAT TO ME IS THAT WE SURVIVE. 553 00:35:45,977 --> 00:35:48,279 Steven: YES, THAT WE SURVIVE. 554 00:35:48,279 --> 00:35:52,850 OR A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF US SURVIVE THAT ALLOWS THESE OTHER 555 00:35:52,850 --> 00:35:56,220 GENERATIONS TO FLOURISH. Stephen: OKAY, IF THERE ARE 556 00:35:56,220 --> 00:36:02,360 ALIENS, IS YOUR BET ON ET OR WERE OF THE WORLD? 557 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,996 Steven: ET. WAR OF THE WORLDS WAS A 558 00:36:04,996 --> 00:36:07,632 REFLECTION OF 9/11. MY WAY OF MAKING A STORY ABOUT 559 00:36:07,632 --> 00:36:09,233 THE IMPACT THAT 9/11 HAD ON ALL OF US. 560 00:36:09,233 --> 00:36:14,839 I BELIEVE THAT IF ANY EXTRATERRESTRIAL CIVILIZATION 561 00:36:14,839 --> 00:36:21,345 HAS JOURNEYED ALL THE WAY HERE, IT'S BECAUSE OF CURIOSITY AND 562 00:36:21,345 --> 00:36:23,214 SCIENCE AND IT'S NOT ABOUT AGGRESSION. 563 00:36:23,214 --> 00:36:25,616 Stephen: BECAUSE IF THEY CAN GET HERE, THEY DON'T NEED 564 00:36:25,616 --> 00:36:28,185 OUR RESOURCES. THEY MUST HAVE ENORMOUS 565 00:36:28,185 --> 00:36:29,420 RESOURCES ALREADY. Steven: EXACTLY. 566 00:36:29,420 --> 00:36:32,023 THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE BEEN THIS PATIENT WITH US AND HAVEN'T 567 00:36:32,023 --> 00:36:43,334 TURNED THE EARTH INTO A BURNED-OUT CINDER IS 568 00:36:43,334 --> 00:36:45,636 EXTRAORDINARY. Stephen: YOU ARE 569 00:36:45,636 --> 00:36:47,805 STEVEN SPIELBERG. OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE PICCHU MOVIE 570 00:36:47,805 --> 00:36:49,907 IDEAS ALL THE TIME. I HAVE A GREAT IDEA. 571 00:36:49,907 --> 00:36:52,543 USE IT. DON'T USE IT. 572 00:36:52,543 --> 00:37:00,251 HEAR ME OUT. ET 2. 573 00:37:00,251 --> 00:37:05,323 IT'S TIME. Steven: IS THAT THE TITLE? 574 00:37:05,323 --> 00:37:07,858 "E.T. 2: IT'S TIME." Stephen: IT DOESN'T MATTER 575 00:37:07,858 --> 00:37:11,796 WHAT THE TITLE IS. ET 2, ELECTRIC BOOGALOO. 576 00:37:11,796 --> 00:37:14,332 WE MAKE IT. WHAT'S IT ABOUT? 577 00:37:14,332 --> 00:37:18,402 IT'S ABOUT A BILLION-DOLLAR OPENING WEEKEND. 578 00:37:18,402 --> 00:37:22,173 THE HIGHEST GROSSING OPENING WEEKEND OF ALL TIME. 579 00:37:22,173 --> 00:37:24,175 ET 2. Steven: OR NOBODY WILL SHOW 580 00:37:24,175 --> 00:37:27,979 UP BECAUSE THEY LOVE "E.T. 1" SO MUCH. 581 00:37:27,979 --> 00:37:33,117 Stephen: YOU'RE CRAZY. I'VE GOT SOME TITLES. 582 00:37:33,117 --> 00:37:38,789 ET AGAIN. LOOK WHO IS ETING NOW. 583 00:37:38,789 --> 00:37:42,360 ET PREDATOR. WOULD YOU WANT TO SEE THE 584 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,863 PREDATOR FIGHT ET? Steven: IT IS LIKE YODA IN 585 00:37:45,863 --> 00:37:49,700 THE LAST "STAR WARS" MOVIE WHERE HE FOUGHT SO WONDERFULLY. 586 00:37:49,700 --> 00:37:53,838 Stephen: EXACTLY. CGI ET, GIVE THEM A LIGHTSABER, 587 00:37:53,838 --> 00:37:55,973 CROSSOVER. Steven: I DON'T KNOW. 588 00:37:55,973 --> 00:37:58,075 Stephen: THINK ABOUT IT. DON'T ANSWER ME NOW. 589 00:37:58,075 --> 00:38:01,345 Steven: THE WEAPONIZING OF "E.T.," I DON'T THINK THAT SUCH 590 00:38:01,345 --> 00:38:03,247 A GOOD IDEA. Stephen: REALLY? 591 00:38:03,247 --> 00:38:07,284 IT'S A DIFFERENT WORLD. 1982, OBVIOUSLY ET ISN'T GOING 592 00:38:07,284 --> 00:38:10,888 TO HAVE A LIGHTSABER. Steven: HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY 593 00:38:10,888 --> 00:38:13,224 ARMOR. HE HAS NO CLOTHES. 594 00:38:13,224 --> 00:38:23,067 IF IT WASN'T FOR GERTIE AND ELLIOT, HE WOULDN'T HAVE ANY 595 00:38:23,067 --> 00:38:27,171 CLOTHES. PEOPLE REPORT BEING ABDUCTED BY 596 00:38:27,171 --> 00:38:28,873 EXTRATERRESTRIALS, WHY THEY ARE NOT WEARING CLOTHES. 597 00:38:28,873 --> 00:38:30,741 WHY ARE THEY NAKED? Stephen: MAYBE IT'S A VERY 598 00:38:30,741 --> 00:38:34,845 TIGHT SKIN SUIT. MAYBE IT'S A CATSUIT. 599 00:38:34,845 --> 00:38:37,715 Steven: MAYBE IT'S A WHOLE THERMOSTATIC SYSTEM. 600 00:38:37,715 --> 00:38:40,518 Stephen: MAYBE THEY ARE NOT GRAY. 601 00:38:40,518 --> 00:38:43,320 MAYBE HAD ZIPS UP. ALL RIGHT. 602 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,191 ONE MORE TIME ON THE ET 2, THIS TIME WE DO IT RIGHT. 603 00:38:47,191 --> 00:38:49,927 FORGET REESE'S PIECES. THE M&M PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE 604 00:38:49,927 --> 00:38:52,463 CRAWLING TO YOU. Steven: YOU KNOW SOMETHING, 605 00:38:52,463 --> 00:38:57,201 THEY HAD THEIR SHOT. I'M STICKING WITH REESE'S. 606 00:38:57,201 --> 00:38:59,370 Stephen: LOYALTY. YOU LIKE TO WORK WITH THE SAME 607 00:38:59,370 --> 00:39:01,806 PEOPLE OVER AND OVER AGAIN. Steven: I AM LOYAL TO THE 608 00:39:01,806 --> 00:39:04,675 PEOPLE THAT ARE LOYAL TO ME. Stephen: IT IS NOT A HARD 609 00:39:04,675 --> 00:39:07,378 KNOW IS WHAT I'M HEARING, THAT YOU'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IT. 610 00:39:07,378 --> 00:39:10,948 Steven: I HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT IT, AN ENDLESS SUPPLY OF 611 00:39:10,948 --> 00:39:13,417 REESE'S PIECES. Stephen: DID YOU EVER THINK 612 00:39:13,417 --> 00:39:17,154 ABOUT A SEQUEL TO "E.T."? Steven: NO, NEVER. 613 00:39:17,154 --> 00:39:19,290 Stephen: I'M JUST GOING TO LEAVE THIS WITH YOU. 614 00:39:19,290 --> 00:39:22,660 Steven: I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M LOOKING AT THAT RIGHT NOW. 615 00:39:22,660 --> 00:39:25,996 Stephen: I WANT YOU, JUST WHATEVER. 616 00:39:25,996 --> 00:39:27,565 LOOK THROUGH IT. DON'T LOOK THROUGH IT. 617 00:39:27,565 --> 00:39:35,773 DON'T LOOK AT IT NOW. Steven: IT SAYS ET ETU 618 00:39:35,773 --> 00:39:39,276 BRUTE. IT'S THE ONE I WANT SENTENCE FOR 619 00:39:39,276 --> 00:39:43,380 YOU. "E.T. MAKE BANK." 620 00:39:43,380 --> 00:39:45,449 THAT'S MY CHRISTMAS CARD. Steven: I AM GOING TO OPEN 621 00:39:45,449 --> 00:39:48,252 THIS WHEN I'M IN THE OFFICE AND I WILL WRITE YOU A LETTER ABOUT 622 00:39:48,252 --> 00:39:50,855 IT. OH, MY GOD, THERE IS ACTUALLY A 623 00:39:50,855 --> 00:39:52,490 SCRIPT HERE. Stephen: DO YOU THINK I'M 624 00:39:52,490 --> 00:39:57,495 NOT GOING TO PITCH STEVEN SPIELBERG-- 625 00:39:57,495 --> 00:40:03,834 I AM GIVING IT TO J.J. ABRAMS. THANKS AGAIN TO 626 00:40:03,834 --> 00:40:05,770 STEVEN SPIELBERG. JOHN WILLIAMS. 627 00:40:05,770 --> 00:40:07,938 EVERYONE AT AMBLIN. YOU CAN WATCH "THE FABELMANS" IN 628 00:40:07,938 --> 00:40:10,241 THEATERS AND AT HOME NOW. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK. 629 00:40:19,250 --> 00:40:20,384 Stephen: THAT'S IT FOR "THE LATE SHOW." 630 00:40:20,384 --> 00:40:22,253 TUNE IN NEXT WEEK MY GUESTS WILL BE 631 00:40:22,253 --> 00:40:25,890 JAMES TAYLOR, IDRIS ELBA, JANE FONDA, LILY TOMLIN. 632 00:40:25,890 --> 00:40:28,225 STICK AROUND FOR JAMES. GOOD NIGHT!