1 00:00:03,128 --> 00:00:04,212 >> STEPHEN, WE'RE FEEDING. 2 00:00:04,295 --> 00:00:06,798 >> Stephen: ALL RIGHT, I'M JUST ENJOYING BARACK OBAMA'S NEW 3 00:00:06,881 --> 00:00:07,757 BOOK. 4 00:00:07,841 --> 00:00:08,425 I CAN'T WAIT TO FIND OUT WHAT HE'S BEEN UP TO. 5 00:00:08,508 --> 00:00:08,967 >> STEPHEN, I'M RIGHT HERE. 6 00:00:09,050 --> 00:00:11,219 >> Stephen: NO SPOILERS! 7 00:00:13,179 --> 00:00:17,600 >> Announcer: IT'S A "LATE SHOW" WITH STEPHEN COLBERT. 8 00:00:17,684 --> 00:00:23,606 TONIGHT, PART TWO OF STEPHEN'S INTERVIEW WITH PRESIDENT BARACK 9 00:00:23,690 --> 00:00:26,109 OBAMA, FEATURING JON BATISTE AND "STAY HOMIN." 10 00:00:26,192 --> 00:00:31,614 AND NOW, LIVE ON TAPE FROM THE ED SULLIVAN THEATER OFFICE 11 00:00:31,698 --> 00:00:35,243 BUILDING IN NEW YORK CITY, IT'S STEPHEN COLBERT! 12 00:00:35,326 --> 00:00:39,080 >> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY! 13 00:00:39,164 --> 00:00:41,291 WELCOME TO "A LATE SHOW." 14 00:00:41,374 --> 00:00:44,544 I'M YOUR SHOWS STEPHEN COLBERT. 15 00:00:44,627 --> 00:00:47,338 AND TONIGHT IS A VERY SPECIAL "A LATE SHOW." 16 00:00:47,422 --> 00:00:49,799 YOU MAY REMEMBER LAST WEEK, WHEN I SAT DOWN WITH MY CLOSE 17 00:00:49,883 --> 00:00:52,635 PERSONAL FRIEND BARACK, AS HE HAS ASKED ME NOT TO CALL HIM, 18 00:00:52,719 --> 00:00:53,887 PRESIDENT OBAMA. 19 00:00:53,970 --> 00:00:56,181 WELL, IT TURNS OUT THE PRESIDENT AND I HAD SO MUCH TO TALK ABOUT, 20 00:00:56,264 --> 00:01:00,977 WE ACTUALLY COULDN'T FIT IT ALL IN ONE SHOW. 21 00:01:01,060 --> 00:01:02,187 I MEAN, WE COULD HAVE, BUT THAT WOULD HAVE MEANT MORE TIME WITH 22 00:01:02,270 --> 00:01:06,524 AN AMERICAN ICON, AND FEWER COMMERCIALS FOR NASAL 23 00:01:06,608 --> 00:01:09,152 DECONGESTANT-- AND OBVIOUSLY NO ONE WANTS THAT. 24 00:01:09,235 --> 00:01:12,530 SO IN THE GREAT TRADITION OF THIS POST-THANKSGIVING SEASON, 25 00:01:12,614 --> 00:01:18,536 TONIGHT, I'M GOING TO SERVE UP SOME DELICIOUS LEFTOVERS, IN 26 00:01:18,620 --> 00:01:21,122 WHAT I'M CALLING "A LATE SHOW'S CHOCK-A-BLOCK-A-BARACK 27 00:01:21,206 --> 00:01:25,168 OBAMA-RAMA EXTRAVAGAMA!" AS YOU KNOW, THE FORMER 28 00:01:25,251 --> 00:01:29,088 PRESIDENT HAS BEEN MAKING THE ROUNDS RECENTLY TO PROMOTE HIS 29 00:01:29,172 --> 00:01:30,340 NEW BOOK, "A PROMISED LAND." 30 00:01:30,423 --> 00:01:34,177 IT'S THE STORY OF BARACK OBAMA'S FIRST 27 MONTHS AS PRESIDENT, 31 00:01:34,260 --> 00:01:38,056 AND, AT ALMOST 800 PAGES, IT WILL TAKE MOST PEOPLE 27 MONTHS 32 00:01:38,139 --> 00:01:39,140 TO FINISH. 33 00:01:39,224 --> 00:01:41,142 IT'S THE FIRST MEMOIR MEANT TO BE READ IN REAL-TIME. 34 00:01:41,226 --> 00:01:43,186 MY FAVORITE PART ABOUT "A PROMISED LAND" IS THAT, JUST 35 00:01:43,269 --> 00:01:50,985 LIKE MOST BOOKS, ON THE DUST JACKET, IT'S GOT A LITTLE AUTHOR 36 00:01:51,069 --> 00:01:54,197 BIO: "BARACK OBAMA WAS THE 44TH PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES 37 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,075 ELECTED IN NOVEMBER OF 2008," ETC, ETC. 38 00:01:57,158 --> 00:01:58,201 WHO IS THAT FOR, EXACTLY? 39 00:01:58,284 --> 00:02:05,124 WHO PICKS UP THIS BOOK WITHOUT KNOWING WHO WROTE IT? 40 00:02:05,208 --> 00:02:06,292 "LET'S SEE, I'M A BIG FAN OF PROMISES, AND I'M A LAND 41 00:02:06,376 --> 00:02:11,881 MAMMAL... LET ME FIND OUT WHO THIS 'BARACK OBAMA' GUY IS." 42 00:02:11,965 --> 00:02:15,009 "A PROMISED LAND" HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING. 43 00:02:15,093 --> 00:02:17,428 PRESIDENT OBAMA SAYS IT TOOK HIM TWO AND A HALF YEARS LONGER THAN 44 00:02:17,512 --> 00:02:18,263 EXPECTED TO FINISH. 45 00:02:18,346 --> 00:02:19,514 NOT SURPRISING. 46 00:02:19,597 --> 00:02:22,267 IF HE DICTATED IT, THE PAUSES WOULD EAT UP BIG CHUNK OF THAT. 47 00:02:22,350 --> 00:02:26,604 THIS BOOK IS ALREADY A HUGE DEAL, SELLING A RECORD-BREAKING 48 00:02:26,688 --> 00:02:31,025 1.7 MILLION COPIES IN THE FIRST WEEK. 49 00:02:31,109 --> 00:02:33,903 IN FACT, DEMAND FOR "A PROMISED LAND" IN AMERICA WAS SO HIGH 50 00:02:33,987 --> 00:02:37,907 THAT THE INTERNATIONAL PUBLISHER HAS PRINTED 1.5 MILLION COPIES 51 00:02:37,991 --> 00:02:40,118 IN GERMANY TO BRING OVER ON CARGO SHIPS. 52 00:02:40,201 --> 00:02:42,245 BUT I'M ASSURED CUSTOMERS WON'T NOTICE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 53 00:02:42,328 --> 00:02:46,249 THE AMERICAN VERSION AND THE GERMAN ONE. 54 00:02:46,332 --> 00:02:50,587 AND IF YOU'RE HAPPY TO SEE OBAMA BACK IN THE SPOTLIGHT 55 00:02:50,670 --> 00:02:51,671 AGAIN, YOU'RE NOT ALONE: INDEPENDENT BOOKSTORES IN 56 00:02:51,754 --> 00:02:55,425 PARTICULAR ARE REPORTING UNPRECEDENTED FIRST-DAY SALES, 57 00:02:55,508 --> 00:02:58,261 WHICH COULD PROVE CRUCIAL IN RECOVERING SOME OF THE LOSSES 58 00:02:58,344 --> 00:03:02,432 SUFFERED DURING THE SHUTDOWN. 59 00:03:02,515 --> 00:03:06,311 HOW MANY TIMES DOES THIS MAN NEED TO SAVE THE ECONOMY? 60 00:03:06,394 --> 00:03:10,315 HE PROPPED UP THE AUTO INDUSTRY, NOW PUBLISHING, AND NEXT WEEK, 61 00:03:10,398 --> 00:03:18,781 HE'S BRINGING BACK AMERICA'S SHOPPING MALLS BY GETTING HIS 62 00:03:18,865 --> 00:03:20,033 EARS PIERCED AT CLAIRE'S. 63 00:03:20,116 --> 00:03:21,284 OBAMA IS A DEMOCRAT, BUT IN HIS EARLY YEARS, HE DID FLIRT WITH 64 00:03:21,367 --> 00:03:22,911 OTHER POLITICAL IDEOLOGIES. 65 00:03:22,994 --> 00:03:23,995 AND I DO MEAN "FLIRT." 66 00:03:24,078 --> 00:03:25,496 AS HE SAYS IN HIS BOOK, A PERFORMATIVE INTEREST IN THE 67 00:03:25,580 --> 00:03:26,664 WRITINGS OF POLITICAL PHILOSOPHERS LIKE KARL MARX AND 68 00:03:26,748 --> 00:03:30,335 FRANTZ FANON GAVE HIM SOMETHING TO SAY TO THE LONG-LEGGED 69 00:03:30,418 --> 00:03:34,631 SOCIALIST WHO LIVED IN HIS DORM AND THE ETHEREAL BISEXUAL WHO 70 00:03:34,714 --> 00:03:38,301 WORE MOSTLY BLACK. 71 00:03:38,384 --> 00:03:41,304 OH, YEAH, NOTHING GETS THE LADIES GOING LIKE MARXISM. 72 00:03:41,387 --> 00:03:43,806 (FLIRTY) "HEY, BABY, ARE YOU RELIGION? 73 00:03:43,890 --> 00:03:46,309 BECAUSE YOU'RE THE OPIATE OF MY MASSES. 74 00:03:46,392 --> 00:03:50,313 LET'S MAKE LIKE THE PROLETARIAT AND SEIZE EACH OTHER'S MEANS OF 75 00:03:50,396 --> 00:03:53,858 PRODUCTION." 76 00:03:53,942 --> 00:03:54,317 OBAMA ALSO REVEALS WHO HAD THE FINAL SAY ON ONE OF HIS MOST 77 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,278 ICONIC SLOGANS. 78 00:03:57,362 --> 00:04:01,157 HE WAS PITCHED A CAMPAIGN AD WHERE HE LOOKED INTO THE CAMERA 79 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:02,784 AND SAID "YES WE CAN." 80 00:04:02,867 --> 00:04:06,329 OBAMA SAYS "I THOUGHT IT WAS CORNY, BUT THE DIRECTOR SHOWED 81 00:04:06,412 --> 00:04:09,332 IT TO MICHELLE, WHO DEEMED IT 'NOT CORNY AT ALL'." 82 00:04:09,415 --> 00:04:10,583 THANK GOODNESS MICHELLE OBAMA TOLD HIM NOT TO PLAY IT SO COOL! 83 00:04:10,667 --> 00:04:14,379 OTHERWISE WE WOULD'VE BEEN STUCK WITH POSTERS THAT SAID "HOPE, OR 84 00:04:14,462 --> 00:04:15,588 WHATEVER, NO BIG DEAL." 85 00:04:15,672 --> 00:04:18,383 NOW THAT THE BOOK IS ON THE SHELVES, OBAMA IS NOT RESTING ON 86 00:04:18,466 --> 00:04:20,802 HIS LAURELS. 87 00:04:20,885 --> 00:04:22,345 HE AND THE FORMER FIRST LADY HAVE ANNOUNCED THEY'LL BE 88 00:04:22,428 --> 00:04:26,432 PRODUCING A NETFLIX SKETCH COMEDY SERIES ABOUT THE 89 00:04:26,516 --> 00:04:30,395 TRANSITION CHAOS FROM HIS ADMINISTRATION TO NUMBER 45. 90 00:04:30,478 --> 00:04:34,399 A NETFLIX SHOW ABOUT TAKING OVER THE WHITE HOUSE FROM OBAMA? 91 00:04:34,482 --> 00:04:39,153 PLEASE CALL IT "ORANGE IS THE NEW BLACK." 92 00:04:39,237 --> 00:04:40,363 BUT YOU'VE HEARD ENOUGH OF ME TALKING ABOUT BARACK OBAMA. 93 00:04:40,446 --> 00:04:42,407 LET'S CHANGE THINGS UP AND WATCH ME TALKING TO BARACK OBAMA. 94 00:04:42,490 --> 00:04:45,368 JIM? 95 00:04:45,451 --> 00:04:47,370 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING DOWN. 96 00:04:47,453 --> 00:04:49,372 YOU NEEDED A CHANGE IN VENUE. 97 00:04:49,455 --> 00:04:54,168 >> Stephen: I GOT NOTHING ELSE GOING ON RIGHT NOW. 98 00:04:54,252 --> 00:04:55,670 ( LAUGHTER ) >> YEAH, IT'S GOOD TO SEA YA. 99 00:04:55,753 --> 00:04:59,590 >> Stephen: NICE TO TEE ZE YOU, TOO. 100 00:04:59,674 --> 00:05:00,008 >> HOW HAVE YOU BEEN? 101 00:05:00,091 --> 00:05:01,259 YOU LOOK WELL. 102 00:05:01,342 --> 00:05:02,385 >> Stephen: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 103 00:05:02,468 --> 00:05:04,053 YOU LOOK WELL, TOO. 104 00:05:04,137 --> 00:05:06,556 >> THAT'S AN EXCEPTIONALLY NICE SUIT. 105 00:05:06,639 --> 00:05:07,265 >> Stephen: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 106 00:05:07,348 --> 00:05:08,057 DO YOU NOT OWN A TIE? 107 00:05:08,141 --> 00:05:10,435 >> I DON'T BELIEVE IN TIES ANYMORE. 108 00:05:10,518 --> 00:05:11,602 >> Stephen: REALLY? 109 00:05:11,686 --> 00:05:13,396 FUNERALS AND WEDDINGS, THE ONLY TIME YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ME 110 00:05:13,479 --> 00:05:14,564 IN A TIE. 111 00:05:14,647 --> 00:05:17,442 >> Stephen: NOW THAT YOU'RE NO LONGER THE PRESIDENT OF THE 112 00:05:17,525 --> 00:05:24,949 UNITED STATES, DO I STILL HAVE TO BE DIGNIFIED AROUND YOU? 113 00:05:25,033 --> 00:05:25,825 >> NO. 114 00:05:25,908 --> 00:05:31,122 YOU WEREN'T DIGNIFIED PREVI PREVIOUSLY. 115 00:05:31,205 --> 00:05:34,917 >> AFTER EIGHT MONTHS, MY BODY IS NO LONGER SUIT SPAIPPED 116 00:05:35,001 --> 00:05:36,085 SHAPED. 117 00:05:36,169 --> 00:05:37,420 >> LISTEN, YOU LOOK GOOD IN YOUR SOUGHT, YOU SHAVED, SHOES 118 00:05:37,503 --> 00:05:38,129 POLISHED. 119 00:05:38,212 --> 00:05:39,338 >> Stephen: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 120 00:05:39,422 --> 00:05:42,759 >> I THINK SHE JUST WANTED TO SEE YOU UPGRADED A LITTLE BIT. 121 00:05:42,842 --> 00:05:44,427 >> Stephen: I THINK SO, TOO. 122 00:05:44,510 --> 00:05:48,264 BY THE WAY, I AM ENJOYING "A PROMISED LAND." 123 00:05:48,347 --> 00:05:49,432 >> THANK YOU. 124 00:05:49,515 --> 00:05:51,434 >> Stephen: YOU WRITE IN THE BOOK THAT ONE OF THE THINGS YOU 125 00:05:51,517 --> 00:05:55,563 NOTICE ABOUT BECOMING PRESIDENT IS NO ONE EVER CALLS YOU BY YOUR 126 00:05:55,646 --> 00:05:56,773 FIRST NAME AGAIN. 127 00:05:56,856 --> 00:05:57,982 >> YEAH. 128 00:05:58,066 --> 00:06:01,569 >> Stephen: I HAVEN'T SEEN YOU IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS, BUT I'VE 129 00:06:01,652 --> 00:06:04,072 SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH YOUR LIFE. 130 00:06:04,155 --> 00:06:08,326 TRAVELED TO LONDON TOGETHER AND INTERVIEWED FOR HER BOOK IN 131 00:06:08,409 --> 00:06:13,915 NASHVILLE, SE GAVE ME A CAKE ON MY BIRTHDAY, DANCED FOR MY 132 00:06:13,998 --> 00:06:15,124 BIRTHDAY. 133 00:06:15,208 --> 00:06:16,417 SHE ACTUALLY GOT AN EMAIL FROM ONE OF HER ASSISTANTS SAYING SHE 134 00:06:16,501 --> 00:06:21,464 IS DONE WITH ME CALLING HER MADAM FIRST LADY AND I AM TO 135 00:06:21,547 --> 00:06:25,343 CALL HER MICHELLE IN SO UNCERTAIN TERMS AND I HAVE NOT 136 00:06:25,426 --> 00:06:28,471 SEEN HER TO DO THAT YET, BUT I AM GOING TO GET THE COURAGE TO 137 00:06:28,554 --> 00:06:31,599 DO THAT WHEN I SEE HER NEXT. 138 00:06:31,682 --> 00:06:38,314 MR. PRESIDENT, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY TO ME? 139 00:06:38,397 --> 00:06:38,981 >> NO. 140 00:06:39,065 --> 00:06:39,857 YOU KNOW WHAT, I TAKE THAT BACK. 141 00:06:39,941 --> 00:06:43,027 >> Stephen: I'M SORRY? 142 00:06:43,111 --> 00:06:46,030 YOU DON'T HAVE TO CALL ME MR. PRESIDENT, YOU CAN JUST CALL 143 00:06:46,114 --> 00:06:46,989 ME PRESIDENT. 144 00:06:47,073 --> 00:06:47,323 >> Stephen: THANK YOU. 145 00:06:47,406 --> 00:06:47,698 THANK YOU. 146 00:06:47,782 --> 00:06:48,950 >> ALL RIGHT. 147 00:06:49,033 --> 00:06:52,036 >> Stephen: ON BEHALF OF A LOT OF AMERICANS, I THINK I CAN SAY 148 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,956 WITH CONFIDENCE THAT WE'VE MISSED YOU. 149 00:06:55,039 --> 00:06:55,706 >> THANK YOU. 150 00:06:55,790 --> 00:06:56,874 >> Stephen: THESE LAST FOUR YEARS. 151 00:06:56,958 --> 00:06:58,126 DID YOU MISS YOU? 152 00:06:58,209 --> 00:06:59,502 DID YOU EVER LOOK AT SOMETHING GOING ON IN THE NEWS AND GO, YOU 153 00:06:59,585 --> 00:07:02,505 KNOW WHAT THIS SITUATION NEEDS? 154 00:07:02,588 --> 00:07:07,802 BARACK OBAMA. 155 00:07:07,885 --> 00:07:11,305 >> (LAUGHING) I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, PEOPLE WOULD ASK ME, 156 00:07:11,389 --> 00:07:15,518 KNOWING WHAT YOU KNOW NOW, DO YOU WISH YOU HAD A THIRD TERM? 157 00:07:15,601 --> 00:07:26,529 AND I USED TO SAY, IF I COULD MAKE AN ARRANGEMENT WHERE I HAD 158 00:07:26,612 --> 00:07:31,701 A STAND-IN, A FRONT-MAN OR FRONT-WOMAN AND THEY HAD AN EAR 159 00:07:31,784 --> 00:07:35,538 PIECE IN AND I WAS IN MY BASEMENT OR SWEATS LOOKING 160 00:07:35,621 --> 00:07:37,540 THROUGH THE STUFF AND I COULD DELIVER THE LINES, BUT SOMEBODY 161 00:07:37,623 --> 00:07:42,086 ELSE WAS DOING ALL THE TALKING AND CEREMONY, I WOULD BE FINE 162 00:07:42,170 --> 00:07:45,214 WITH THAT BECAUSE I FOUND THE WORK FASCINATING. 163 00:07:45,298 --> 00:07:51,554 I MEAN, I WRITE ABOUT THE -- EVEN ON MY WORST DAYS, I FOUND 164 00:07:51,637 --> 00:07:57,935 PUZZLING OUT, YOU KNOW, THESE BIG, COMPLICATED, DIFFICULT 165 00:07:58,019 --> 00:08:00,897 ISSUES, ESPECIALLY IF YOU WERE WORKING WITH SOME GREAT PEOPLE, 166 00:08:00,980 --> 00:08:06,485 TO BE PROFESSIONALLY REALLY SATISFYING. 167 00:08:06,569 --> 00:08:13,701 BUT I DO NOT MISS HAVING TO WEAR A TIE EVERY DAY. 168 00:08:13,784 --> 00:08:17,538 >> Stephen: ARE THERE ASPECTS OF THE JOB -- BECAUSE WE FOUND 169 00:08:17,622 --> 00:08:21,584 OUT FROM YOUR SUCCESSOR THAT THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF 170 00:08:21,667 --> 00:08:27,465 YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO AND PEOPLE STILL LOOK AT YOU AS PRESIDENT. 171 00:08:27,548 --> 00:08:33,763 ARE THERE A FEW THINGS YOU CHUCKED OUT AND YOU WENT, OH, IF 172 00:08:33,846 --> 00:08:36,265 ONLY I HAD KNOWN I DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT? 173 00:08:36,349 --> 00:08:37,099 >> I THINK THERE WAS A LOT. 174 00:08:37,183 --> 00:08:39,602 >> Stephen: RESPOND TO SUBPOENAS? 175 00:08:39,685 --> 00:08:40,436 >> FOLLOW THE CONSTITUTION. 176 00:08:40,519 --> 00:08:44,732 >> Stephen: YEAH, THAT'S A GRAYING DRAG. 177 00:08:44,815 --> 00:08:45,900 THAT CONSTITUTION IS A DRAG. 178 00:08:45,983 --> 00:08:49,779 YOU SAY YOU'VE WRITTEN THIS BOOK FOR YUM PEOPLE OF THE NEXT 179 00:08:49,862 --> 00:08:50,238 GENERATION. 180 00:08:50,321 --> 00:08:51,280 YOU'RE 59, I'M 56. 181 00:08:51,364 --> 00:08:57,453 WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE US GEN XERES TO KNOW? 182 00:08:57,536 --> 00:08:58,120 >> GET OUT OF THE WAY. 183 00:08:58,204 --> 00:09:03,292 >> Stephen: OKAY, BOOMER. 184 00:09:03,376 --> 00:09:09,131 (LAUGHING) I WILL SAY I AM SO OPTIMISTIC ABOUT OUR KIDS, AND 185 00:09:09,215 --> 00:09:12,301 THEY'RE SMARTER THAN WE WERE, THEY'RE MORE SOPHISTICATED, 186 00:09:12,385 --> 00:09:14,637 THEY'RE KINDER, THEY'RE ENVIRONMENTALLY MORE CONSCIOUS, 187 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:21,143 THEY BELIEVED IN STUFF, AS I WRITE IN THE PREFACE, THAT MAYBE 188 00:09:21,227 --> 00:09:24,981 WE GAVE LIP SERVICE TO BUT DIDN'T WANT TO LIVE OUT BECAUSE 189 00:09:25,064 --> 00:09:27,650 IT REQUIRED SOME SACRIFICE AND YOU SEE THEM LIVING OUT THEIR 190 00:09:27,733 --> 00:09:30,778 COMMITMENTS IN REALLY POWERFUL WAYS. 191 00:09:30,861 --> 00:09:38,619 BUT WE HAVE TO BE WILLING TO GIVE THEM THE CHANCE TO REMAKE 192 00:09:38,703 --> 00:09:41,330 INSTITUTIONS AND CHANGE OLD HABITS. 193 00:09:41,414 --> 00:09:45,001 SO THEY MAKE ME OPEN MYSTIC, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE 194 00:09:45,084 --> 00:09:48,963 DON'T SCREW THINGS UP SO BAD THAT, BY THE TIME THEY'RE IN 195 00:09:49,046 --> 00:09:50,131 CHARGE, THAT, YOU KNOW, IT BECOMES THAT MUCH HARDER. 196 00:09:50,214 --> 00:09:54,510 >> Stephen: BY THE WAY, HAVE YOU LISTENED TO YOUR OWN AUDIO 197 00:09:54,593 --> 00:09:55,052 BOOK OF THIS? 198 00:09:55,136 --> 00:09:56,178 I KNOW YOU RECORDED IT. 199 00:09:56,262 --> 00:09:56,637 >> I DID RECORD IT, SO I WAS LISTENING TO IT WHILE I WAS 200 00:09:56,721 --> 00:09:57,221 READING. 201 00:09:57,305 --> 00:09:58,681 >> I ENJOY THE AUDIO BOOK. 202 00:09:58,764 --> 00:10:04,353 YOU CAN LISTEN TO YOUR AUDIO BOOK AT DOUBLE SPEED AND CAN'T 203 00:10:04,437 --> 00:10:06,230 TELL IT'S GOING FASTER. 204 00:10:06,314 --> 00:10:08,482 >> YOUR VOICE IS HIGHER ISN'T IT? 205 00:10:08,566 --> 00:10:12,194 >> Stephen: NO, YOUR VOICE STAYS AT THE SAME LEVEL, JUST AS 206 00:10:12,278 --> 00:10:16,657 NORMAL HUMAN TALKING SPEED. 207 00:10:16,741 --> 00:10:17,450 OKAY. 208 00:10:17,533 --> 00:10:18,534 >> (LAUGHING) WHAT ELSE HAVE YOU GOT. 209 00:10:18,617 --> 00:10:22,580 >> Stephen: HOLD THAT THAWVMENT BACK WITH MORE OF THE 210 00:10:22,663 --> 00:10:24,582 44th PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. 211 00:10:24,665 --> 00:10:25,541 BARACK OBAMA. 212 00:10:50,316 --> 00:10:51,525 >> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY. 213 00:10:51,609 --> 00:10:55,571 WE'RE BACK WITH THE AUTHOR OF "A PROMISED LAND," PRESIDENT BARACK 214 00:10:55,654 --> 00:10:56,739 OBAMA. 215 00:10:56,822 --> 00:10:59,241 WHAT DO YOU THINK OF PEOPLE WHO SAY IT WOULD BE GOOD IF 216 00:10:59,325 --> 00:11:05,790 REPUBLICAN HELD THE SENATE BECAUSE DEMOCRATS WILL GO TOO 217 00:11:05,873 --> 00:11:09,251 FAR IF THEY CONTROL EVERYTHING. 218 00:11:09,335 --> 00:11:11,754 >> I EXPERIENCED DIVIDED GOVERNMENT AND I WILL TELL YOU 219 00:11:11,837 --> 00:11:17,927 THAT GRIDLOCK AND DYSFUNCTION IS A RECIPE FOR NOT ONLY NOT 220 00:11:18,010 --> 00:11:22,390 SOLVING BIG PROBLEMS BUT ALSO GROWING CYNICISM AMONG THE 221 00:11:22,473 --> 00:11:24,642 ELECTORATE THAT FURTHER POLARIZES FOLKS. 222 00:11:24,725 --> 00:11:29,939 >> Stephen: WHY WEREN'T YOU NICER TO MITCH McCONNELL? 223 00:11:30,022 --> 00:11:33,275 WHY WEREN'T YOU NICER TO HIM? 224 00:11:33,359 --> 00:11:35,778 >> LET ME TELL YOU, OF ALL THE ARGUMENTS MADE DURING MY 225 00:11:35,861 --> 00:11:43,077 PRESIDENCY, THE NOTION THAT MY BIG PROBLEM WAS NOT SCHMOOZING 226 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:47,748 MITCH McCONNELL ENOUGH WAS MORE OF THE MORE FRUSTRATING 227 00:11:47,832 --> 00:11:51,293 ONES I HEARD BUT WAS ENTIRELY ACCEPTED. 228 00:11:51,377 --> 00:11:56,173 IT'S STILL CONVENTIONAL WISDOM TO THIS DAY IN PARTS OF 229 00:11:56,257 --> 00:11:57,216 WASHINGTON. 230 00:11:57,299 --> 00:12:02,930 MITCH McCONNELL UNDERSTOOD, AND I WRITE ABOUT THIS 231 00:12:03,013 --> 00:12:07,476 EXTENSIVELY, THAT, IF YOU THROW SAND IN THE GEARS AND STUFF 232 00:12:07,560 --> 00:12:13,691 DOESN'T WORK, THE AVERAGE VOTER DOESN'T REALLY KNOW WHY IT'S NOT 233 00:12:13,774 --> 00:12:15,860 WORKING, THEY DON'T KNOW WHO'S IN CHARGE, THEY DON'T KNOW THE 234 00:12:15,943 --> 00:12:19,989 DETAILS OF SENATE PROCEDURE, WHAT THEY DO UNDERSTAND IS THE 235 00:12:20,072 --> 00:12:22,992 PRESIDENT'S IN CHARGE, AND WE'RE STILL SEEING THE SAME ARGUMENTS 236 00:12:23,075 --> 00:12:23,868 THAT WE USED TO SEE. 237 00:12:23,951 --> 00:12:27,329 SO THAT'S GOOD FOR THE OPPOSITION PARTY. 238 00:12:27,413 --> 00:12:30,875 >> Stephen: IF I ONLY HAD ONE QUESTION TO ASK YOU RIGHT NOW, 239 00:12:30,958 --> 00:12:35,129 IT WOULD BE, WHAT HAPPENS NOW? 240 00:12:35,212 --> 00:12:39,049 WHAT THE HELL HAPPENS NOW? 241 00:12:39,133 --> 00:12:40,217 >> YEAH. 242 00:12:40,301 --> 00:12:43,345 >> Stephen: WHEN YOU HAVE HALF OR 70% OF THE REPUBLICANS OR 243 00:12:43,429 --> 00:12:49,810 MAYBE ABOUT 40% OF THE PUBLIC THINK THAT JOE BIDEN WON BY 244 00:12:49,894 --> 00:12:50,519 CHEATING? 245 00:12:50,603 --> 00:12:51,687 HOW DOES HE REACH THOSE PEOPLE? 246 00:12:51,770 --> 00:12:55,900 >> WELL, LOOK, I THINK HE'S IN A GOOD POSITION TO MAKE THE 247 00:12:55,983 --> 00:12:56,984 EFFORT. 248 00:12:57,067 --> 00:13:01,989 THE FACT THAT HE WON IS INDICATIVE OF THE MESSAGE HE 249 00:13:02,072 --> 00:13:03,866 SENT OF WANTING TO UNIFY THE COUNTRY. 250 00:13:03,949 --> 00:13:11,957 I DO THINK PEOPLE ARE EXHAUSTED BY JUST THIS, YOU KNOW, -- YOU 251 00:13:12,041 --> 00:13:15,920 KNOW, WORLD WRESTLING FEDERATION, CONSTANT CAGE MATCH, 252 00:13:16,003 --> 00:13:24,720 AND PEOPLE JUST WANT TO FEEL AS IF A DAY PASSES WITHOUT IT BEING 253 00:13:24,803 --> 00:13:27,681 DOMINATED BY SOMETHING CRAZY COMING OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE OR 254 00:13:27,765 --> 00:13:28,390 WASHINGTON. 255 00:13:28,474 --> 00:13:30,267 >> Stephen: DON'T GET ME WRONG. 256 00:13:30,351 --> 00:13:33,896 YOU ARE A GREAT PRESIDENT AND PEOPLE ACCUSED YOU OF BEING A 257 00:13:33,979 --> 00:13:34,813 CELEBRITY. 258 00:13:34,897 --> 00:13:37,483 THERE WERE DAYS I DID NOT THINK ABOUT YOU. 259 00:13:37,566 --> 00:13:39,151 >> YOU DID NOT THINK ABOUT ME. 260 00:13:39,235 --> 00:13:40,903 AND I THINK JOE WILL GET BACK TO THAT. 261 00:13:40,986 --> 00:13:46,575 I THINK HE WILL HAVE SOME SUCCESS IN BUILDING BACK SOCIAL 262 00:13:46,659 --> 00:13:51,872 TRUST BECAUSE HE IS NATURALLY SOMEONE WHO IS EMPATHETIC AND 263 00:13:51,956 --> 00:13:55,918 CARES ABOUT PEOPLE. 264 00:13:56,001 --> 00:14:00,756 BUT I THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LARGER CHALLENGE IN 265 00:14:00,839 --> 00:14:04,927 FIGURING OUT WHAT TO DO ABOUT THIS SPLINTERED MEDIA LANDSCAPE. 266 00:14:05,010 --> 00:14:10,766 I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, BUT I CAN'T EMPHASIZE THIS ENOUGH, 267 00:14:10,849 --> 00:14:14,937 WHEN YOU AND I WERE GROWING UP, YOU HAD WALTER CRONKITE, DAVID 268 00:14:15,020 --> 00:14:21,318 BRINKLEY, JOHN CHANCELLOR. 269 00:14:21,402 --> 00:14:27,992 IT WASN'IT WASN'T SCINTILLATING TELEVISION, BUT WHETHER YOU WERE 270 00:14:28,075 --> 00:14:32,538 A CONSERVATIVE OR LIBERAL, YOU GOT YOUR NEWS FROM THE SAME 271 00:14:32,621 --> 00:14:36,584 PLACE, SO YOU HAD SOME COMMON BASELINE OF FACTS, AND NOW YOU 272 00:14:36,667 --> 00:14:37,793 DON'T. 273 00:14:37,876 --> 00:14:43,257 AND HOW YOU CHANGE THAT FORMULA, WITH THE INTERNET AND 5,000 274 00:14:43,340 --> 00:14:49,930 CABLE STATIONS AND THE DEATH OF SMALLTOWN NEWSPAPERS AND EVEN 275 00:14:50,014 --> 00:14:55,019 LOCAL TV NOW BEING BOUGHT OUT BY SINCLAIR SO THAT THEY'RE NOW 276 00:14:55,102 --> 00:15:00,024 PUMPING OUT SORT OF A MORE UNIFORM IDEOLOGICAL LINE ON 277 00:15:00,107 --> 00:15:07,114 EVERYTHING, THAT MAKES THINGS MORE DIFFICULT, AND I THINK THAT 278 00:15:07,197 --> 00:15:13,495 JOE'S PRESIDENCY WILL HELP LOWER THE TEMPERATURE, BUT THE 279 00:15:13,579 --> 00:15:17,499 UNDERLYING CHALLENGE OF US GETTING BACK TO THE POINT WHERE 280 00:15:17,583 --> 00:15:26,800 WE CAN AT LEAST AGREE THAT, LET'S SAY JOE BIDEN GOT MORE 281 00:15:26,884 --> 00:15:30,012 VOTES, YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S -- WE CAN ARGUE ABOUT WHY, WHETHER HE 282 00:15:30,095 --> 00:15:34,850 DESERVED TO GET MORE VOTES, ET CETERA, BUT HE GOT MORE 283 00:15:34,933 --> 00:15:36,060 VOTES. 284 00:15:36,143 --> 00:15:38,145 >> Stephen: WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THIS ARGUMENT, YOU SAY JOE BIDEN 285 00:15:38,228 --> 00:15:40,522 GOT MORE VOTES. 286 00:15:40,606 --> 00:15:41,649 >> YEAH. 287 00:15:41,732 --> 00:15:44,026 >> Stephen: HOW COULD HE HAVE GOTTEN MORE VOTES IF THE 288 00:15:44,109 --> 00:15:46,528 PRESIDENT WON? 289 00:15:46,612 --> 00:15:51,075 HE WON, SO THE OTHER GUY GETTING MORE VOTES FEELS FISHY, DOESN'T 290 00:15:51,158 --> 00:15:52,326 IT? 291 00:15:52,409 --> 00:15:53,869 WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT THAT WAY, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND HOW OTHER 292 00:15:53,952 --> 00:15:55,371 PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT IT. 293 00:15:55,454 --> 00:16:00,292 GET OUTSIDE YOUR BUBBLE, SIR. 294 00:16:00,376 --> 00:16:04,088 THINK ABOUT HOW SOMEBODY ELSE IS LOOKING AT IT. 295 00:16:04,171 --> 00:16:08,384 HE WON SO WHY ARE THERE SO MANY VOTES ON THE OTHER SIDE? 296 00:16:08,467 --> 00:16:08,926 >> SOMETHING'S WRONG. 297 00:16:09,009 --> 00:16:11,345 >> Stephen: THANK YOU. 298 00:16:11,428 --> 00:16:14,682 ON BEHALF OF SO MANY AMERICANS, I ACCEPT YOUR APOLOGY. 299 00:16:14,765 --> 00:16:18,018 >> I WAS TALKING TO FRIEND OF MINE ABOUT THIS AND I WAS TRYING 300 00:16:18,102 --> 00:16:22,022 TO USE A SIMPLE ANALOGY THAT I THINK EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS, 301 00:16:22,106 --> 00:16:27,111 WHAT'S SOMETHING WE STILL HAVE IN COMMON, AND DESPITE 302 00:16:27,194 --> 00:16:32,574 CONTROVERSIES AROUND C.T., ET CETERA, PEOPLE STILT WATCH 303 00:16:32,658 --> 00:16:33,784 FOOTBALL. 304 00:16:33,867 --> 00:16:35,911 SO YOU IMAGINE THE SUPER BOWL AND, YOU KNOW, THE GAME'S GOING 305 00:16:35,994 --> 00:16:39,581 ON AND TOUCHDOWNs ARE SUPPOSED TO BE WORTH SIX POINTS WITH THE 306 00:16:39,665 --> 00:16:43,127 EXTRA POINT, UNLESS YOU GO FOR TWO, AND FIELD GOALS ARE WORTH 307 00:16:43,210 --> 00:16:47,965 THREE POINTS, AND YOU'RE KEEPING SCORE THE WHOLE TIME, AND THERE 308 00:16:48,048 --> 00:16:51,093 ARE REFS, AND AT THE END OF THE GAME A TEAM'S WON AND SOMEBODY 309 00:16:51,176 --> 00:16:53,137 SAYS, NO! 310 00:16:53,220 --> 00:16:57,766 FIELD GOALS AREN'T WORTH ETHREE, OR THAT WASN'T REALLY A 311 00:16:57,850 --> 00:16:58,976 TOUCHDOWN. 312 00:16:59,059 --> 00:17:01,937 >> Stephen: HUGO CHAVEZ KEPT BLOCKING THE FIELD GOAL FROM THE 313 00:17:02,020 --> 00:17:03,188 GRAVE! 314 00:17:03,272 --> 00:17:07,109 >> WE'VE ALL BEEN WATCHING, AND I GUESS, IF YOU HAD -- THE OTHER 315 00:17:07,192 --> 00:17:12,114 PEOPLE JUST REFUSED TO ACKNOWLEDGE IT AND YOU HAD HALF 316 00:17:12,197 --> 00:17:20,122 THE LEAGUE SAY WE'RE NOT SURE IT'S TRUE, YOU WOULD HAVE A 317 00:17:20,205 --> 00:17:25,127 SIMILAR CONTROVERSY, BUT WHEN THAT STARTS HAPPENING, THE GAME 318 00:17:25,210 --> 00:17:29,131 BREAKS DOWN AND IN THIS CASE IT'S OUR DEMOCRACY, OUR 319 00:17:29,214 --> 00:17:31,216 DEMOCRACY STARTS FALLING APART. 320 00:17:31,300 --> 00:17:36,138 IMAGINE IF, GOING FORWARD, EVERY SINGLE ELECTION IS TREATED THIS 321 00:17:36,221 --> 00:17:43,145 WAY AT EVERY LEVEL, IMAGINE IF DEMOCRATS START ACTING THIS 322 00:17:43,228 --> 00:17:44,313 WAY -- >> Stephen: IS THAT PART OF 323 00:17:44,396 --> 00:17:46,190 THE DANGER THAT HE'S BROKEN THE SEAL ON THAT IDEA. 324 00:17:46,273 --> 00:17:49,443 >> THAT IS THE CONCERN THAT I THINK WE ALL HAVE. 325 00:17:49,526 --> 00:17:55,407 JOE BIDEN'S GOING TO BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT, KAMALA HARRIS IS 326 00:17:55,491 --> 00:17:57,034 GOING TO BE THE NEXT VICE PRESIDENT, BUT WE DON'T 327 00:17:57,117 --> 00:18:03,290 WANT TO GET INTO A PATTERN WHERE WE JUST ARE WILLING TO THROW OUT 328 00:18:03,373 --> 00:18:08,504 WHAT WE'VE AGREED TO PREVIOUSLY, INCLUDING OUR CONSTITUTIONAL 329 00:18:08,587 --> 00:18:11,215 STRUCTURE, JUST BECAUSE WE FIND IT POLITICALLY EXPEDIENT. 330 00:18:11,298 --> 00:18:14,301 >> Stephen: A LOT OF PRESIDENTS, ONCE THEY LEAVE 331 00:18:14,384 --> 00:18:16,720 OFFICE, BECOMES FRIENDS OR ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE OTHER 332 00:18:16,804 --> 00:18:17,763 PRESIDENT. 333 00:18:17,846 --> 00:18:20,057 THEY LAY DOWN THEIR SWORD AND SHIELD A LITTLE BIT. 334 00:18:20,140 --> 00:18:25,687 YOU'VE PLAYED GOLF WITH PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH AND 335 00:18:25,771 --> 00:18:26,814 BILL CLINTON. 336 00:18:26,897 --> 00:18:30,192 DO YOU HAVE A TEE TIME WITH THE CURRENT PRESIDENT YET? 337 00:18:30,275 --> 00:18:31,193 >> I DO NOT. 338 00:18:31,276 --> 00:18:34,905 FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, HE'S A PRETTY GOOD GOLFER. 339 00:18:34,988 --> 00:18:35,989 >> Stephen: ALL RIGHT. 340 00:18:36,073 --> 00:18:37,199 I UNDERSTAND, SHOCKINGLY ENOUGH, THERE ARE SOMETIMES 341 00:18:37,282 --> 00:18:42,704 PROBLEMS WITH THE SCORING, AND WHETHER HE'S KEEPING TRACK OF 342 00:18:42,788 --> 00:18:43,497 HIS STROKES. 343 00:18:43,580 --> 00:18:44,289 >> Stephen: THAT'S HUGO CHAVEZ AGAIN. 344 00:18:44,373 --> 00:18:46,458 THAT'S HIS CADDY. 345 00:18:46,542 --> 00:18:47,584 >> IT'S SURPRISING. 346 00:18:47,668 --> 00:18:51,255 >> Stephen: I LOVE THE PLANS OF THE OBAMA LIBRARY ON THE 347 00:18:51,338 --> 00:18:52,172 SOUTH SIDE OF CHICAGO. 348 00:18:52,256 --> 00:18:55,884 IT'S BEAUTIFUL. 349 00:18:55,968 --> 00:18:59,263 LOOKS LIKE STAR FLIGHT HEADQUARTERS LANDED THERE. 350 00:18:59,346 --> 00:19:06,436 YOU HAVE A MUSEUM, GYM WHERE YOU CAN PLAY BASKETBALL, BUMPER 351 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:07,896 CARS, WATER SLIDE, WHAT ELSE. 352 00:19:07,980 --> 00:19:08,730 >> THE BUMPER CARS, NO. 353 00:19:08,814 --> 00:19:11,191 >> Stephen: YOU COULDN'T FUND THAT? 354 00:19:11,275 --> 00:19:14,361 >> NO, UNLESS YOU WANT TO CONFUSE THAT. 355 00:19:14,444 --> 00:19:15,904 STEPHEN COLBERT MEMORIAL BUMPER CARS. 356 00:19:15,988 --> 00:19:22,035 >> Stephen: SOMEBODY PRICE IT AND I'LL THINK ABOUT IT. 357 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:26,415 >> THIS COULD END UP BEING NOT JUST -- THE GOAL IS NOT JUST 358 00:19:26,498 --> 00:19:29,751 HAVE SOME MAUSOLEUM TO ME. 359 00:19:29,835 --> 00:19:34,298 IT'S RATHER TO CREATE A LIVING DYNAMIC CENTER AROUND WHICH 360 00:19:34,381 --> 00:19:39,428 YOUNG PEOPLE CAN GET INSPIRED AND EVEN TRY THEIR HAND AT AND 361 00:19:39,511 --> 00:19:41,889 LEARN ABOUT HOW THEIR VOICES CAN BRING ABOUT CHANGE. 362 00:19:41,972 --> 00:19:44,725 >> Stephen: ONE OF THE DETAILS I LIKE IS THIS IS GOING TO BE 363 00:19:44,808 --> 00:19:47,769 THE FIRST PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY THAT'S ALL DIGITAL. 364 00:19:47,853 --> 00:19:48,937 THERE'S NO PAPER. 365 00:19:49,021 --> 00:19:51,607 IS THAT BECAUSE AFTER THIS BOOK THERE IS NO PAPER LEFT? 366 00:19:51,690 --> 00:19:52,774 >> THAT'S IT. 367 00:19:52,858 --> 00:19:56,445 >> Stephen: IS THIS WHY THERE WAS A PAPER SHORTAGE IN THE 368 00:19:56,528 --> 00:19:57,654 SPRING? 369 00:19:57,738 --> 00:20:04,161 DID ALL THE TOILET PAPER FETE REROUTED AND RE-PULPED INTO THIS 370 00:20:04,244 --> 00:20:04,786 THING? 371 00:20:04,870 --> 00:20:08,457 A LOT OF PAGES, 740 PAGES. 372 00:20:08,540 --> 00:20:10,250 >> 701, THE ACTUAL STUFF TO READ. 373 00:20:10,334 --> 00:20:12,252 >> Stephen: INDEX IS THERE AND I'M NOT IN IT. 374 00:20:12,336 --> 00:20:15,964 748 PAGES AND I DON'T EVEN GET MENTIONED IN HERE. 375 00:20:16,048 --> 00:20:20,385 WE DID A BUNCH OF STUFF TOGETHER. 376 00:20:20,469 --> 00:20:20,969 >> VOLUME TWO. 377 00:20:21,053 --> 00:20:22,471 >> Stephen: OKAY, GOOD. 378 00:20:22,554 --> 00:20:24,306 A LOT OF SIMILAR STORIES BETWEEN THESE TWO. 379 00:20:24,389 --> 00:20:27,100 A LITTLE CROSSOVER IN THINGS LIKE THIS. 380 00:20:27,184 --> 00:20:28,185 >> YES. 381 00:20:28,268 --> 00:20:29,311 >> Stephen: IN HER BOOK, MEETING AND YOUR COURTSHIP TO 382 00:20:29,394 --> 00:20:32,314 YOUR ENGAGEMENT, 63 PAGES. 383 00:20:32,397 --> 00:20:33,440 THREE PAGES. 384 00:20:33,523 --> 00:20:36,276 THREE PAGES! 385 00:20:36,360 --> 00:20:39,196 >> ARE YOU TRYING TO GET ME IN TROUBLE? 386 00:20:39,279 --> 00:20:43,492 >> Stephen: I'M JUST SURPRISED YOUR EDITOR DIDN'T STOP YOU FROM 387 00:20:43,575 --> 00:20:44,701 GETTING IN TROUBLE. 388 00:20:44,785 --> 00:20:45,410 >> NUMBER ONE, I'M NOT GOING TO CHALLENGE HER VERSION TO HAVE 389 00:20:45,494 --> 00:20:47,537 THE EVENTS. 390 00:20:47,621 --> 00:20:49,998 SO SHE'S DONE IT, THAT'S HOW IT HAPPENED. 391 00:20:50,082 --> 00:20:51,083 >> Stephen: YEAH. 392 00:20:51,166 --> 00:20:54,503 ECONDLY, IN MY SECOND BOOK, I TALK ABOUT MEETING HER, 393 00:20:54,586 --> 00:20:55,796 ALREADY. 394 00:20:55,879 --> 00:20:58,048 SO I'VE SPREAD THE STORY OF OUR MEETING OVER THREE BOOKS AND SHE 395 00:20:58,131 --> 00:21:00,008 JUST CONDENSED IT ALL INTO ONE. 396 00:21:00,092 --> 00:21:03,971 >> Stephen: WE HAVE TO TAKE ANOTHER BREAK, SIR, BUT STICK 397 00:21:04,054 --> 00:21:05,013 AROUND. 398 00:21:05,097 --> 00:21:07,891 WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH MICHELLE OBAMA'S HUSBAND. 399 00:21:07,975 --> 00:21:12,980 ♪ AT LAST ♪ ♪ MY LOVE HAS COME ALONG ♪ 400 00:21:13,063 --> 00:21:14,147 ♪ MY LONELY DAYS ARE OVER ♪ 401 00:21:21,071 --> 00:21:28,370 ♪ MY LONELY DAYS ARE OVER ♪ AND LIFE IS LIKE A SONG, WHOO ♪ 402 00:21:28,453 --> 00:21:32,666 >> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY, WE'RE HERE WITH PRESIDENT BARACK 403 00:21:32,749 --> 00:21:36,378 OBAMA, DISCUSSING HIS PRESIDENCY AND HIS NEW BOOK, "A PROMISED 404 00:21:36,461 --> 00:21:37,462 LAND." 405 00:21:37,546 --> 00:21:40,298 YOU WRITE ABOUT A TRIP TO EGYPT AND SEEING AN ANCIENT 406 00:21:40,382 --> 00:21:43,385 HIEROGLYPHIC, A PAINTING OR DRAWING ON THE WALL OF A TOMB 407 00:21:43,468 --> 00:21:50,058 THAT ONE OF YOUR STAFFERS SAYS, BOY, THAT REALLY LOOKS LIKE YOU. 408 00:21:50,142 --> 00:21:52,394 YOU SAW IT AND IMAGINED THE LIFE OF THE MAN IN THE ETCHING AND 409 00:21:52,477 --> 00:21:57,357 SAID ALL OF IT IS FORGOT B NOW, NONE OF IT MATTERED, THE 410 00:21:57,441 --> 00:22:02,029 PHARAOH, SLAVE, VANDAL ALL TURNED TO DUST, JUST LIKE EVERY 411 00:22:02,112 --> 00:22:05,782 SPEECH I DELIVERED, LAW I PASSED AND DECISION I MADE WOULD SOON 412 00:22:05,866 --> 00:22:10,746 BE FORGOTTEN JUST AS I AND ALL THOSE I LOVE WOULD SOME DAY TURN 413 00:22:10,829 --> 00:22:11,371 TO DUST. 414 00:22:11,455 --> 00:22:14,541 ARE YOU OKAY? 415 00:22:14,624 --> 00:22:19,129 BECAUSE IF I SAW THAT IN THE DIARY OF A 13-YEAR-OLD GIRL, I 416 00:22:19,212 --> 00:22:27,387 WOULD GO, WE'RE GOING TO GET YOU SOME HELP. 417 00:22:27,471 --> 00:22:31,475 >> LOOK, YOU KNOW, I SHOULD POINT OUT THAT THAT IS IN THE 418 00:22:31,558 --> 00:22:36,646 SAME CHAPTER THAT THEN ENDS IN NORMANDY, AND I GUESS PART OF 419 00:22:36,730 --> 00:22:47,115 WHAT THAT CHAPTER IS ABOUT IS, YOU KNOW, PART OF HOW TO 420 00:22:47,199 --> 00:22:50,577 MAINTAIN YOUR STEADY STATE IN THIS HIGH-PRESSURED JOB, FOR ME, 421 00:22:50,660 --> 00:22:56,625 AT LEAST, WAS TO TAKE THE LONG VIEW AND TO REMIND YOURSELF, 422 00:22:56,708 --> 00:22:59,544 LOOK, THERE ARE GOING TO BE UPS AND DOWNS, THERE ARE POLL 423 00:22:59,628 --> 00:23:06,343 NUMBERS, SOMEBODY IS AGGRAVATING YOU, YOU LOST A VOTE ON THIS, 424 00:23:06,426 --> 00:23:09,471 THAT OR THE OTHER, AND JUST REMINDING YOURSELVES THAT, IN 425 00:23:09,554 --> 00:23:13,850 THE SWEEP OF HISTORY, THIS IS NOT TRAGIC, WHAT'S HAPPENING 426 00:23:13,934 --> 00:23:14,643 RIGHT NOW. 427 00:23:14,726 --> 00:23:19,314 THERE ARE BIGGER THINGS THAT MATTER. 428 00:23:19,397 --> 00:23:22,818 BUT YOU HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT IT 429 00:23:22,901 --> 00:23:28,532 ALL TURNS TO DUST, WITH THIS OTHER POINT OF VIEW, WHICH IS, 430 00:23:28,615 --> 00:23:32,202 WITHIN THE TIME FRAME OF HUMAN HISTORY THAT AT LEAST WE CAN 431 00:23:32,285 --> 00:23:35,664 COMPREHEND, ACTUALLY WHAT YOU'RE DOING DOES MATTER, AND YOU HAVE 432 00:23:35,747 --> 00:23:39,209 TO KIND OF MAINTAIN THOSE TWO IDEAS AT THE SAME TIME. 433 00:23:39,292 --> 00:23:42,170 IF YOU UNDERSTAND THE MAGNITUDE OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING EVERY 434 00:23:42,254 --> 00:23:45,465 SINGLE MOMENT, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO BE PARALYZED. 435 00:23:45,549 --> 00:23:51,638 SO OCCASIONALLY, YOU HAVE TO PULL BACK AND SAY, LOOK, YOU DO 436 00:23:51,721 --> 00:23:53,140 YOUR BEST AND YOU WILL BE OKAY. 437 00:23:53,223 --> 00:23:55,517 BUT THEN YOU ALSO HAVE TO SAY, MAN, THIS COUNTS, YOU KNOW, 438 00:23:55,600 --> 00:24:02,023 PEOPLE'S LIVES ARE SAVED, SOMEBODY'S GOING TO GET 439 00:24:02,107 --> 00:24:03,525 HEALTHCARE, SOME CHILD'S GOING TO GET EDUCATION. 440 00:24:03,608 --> 00:24:11,324 YOU KNOW, IF YOU MAKE THIS STEP INSTEAD OF THAT STEP, MAYBE, YOU 441 00:24:11,408 --> 00:24:19,166 KNOW, THIS COUNTRY DOESN'T DESCEND INTO CONFLICT AND CIVIL 442 00:24:19,249 --> 00:24:24,045 WAR, YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE MISTAKES, THERE ARE GOING TO BE 443 00:24:24,129 --> 00:24:25,172 UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES, YOU HAVE TO TRY ANYWAY. 444 00:24:25,255 --> 00:24:27,591 >> Stephen: WHEN YOU BECAME PRESIDENT, HOW QUICK DID YOU 445 00:24:27,674 --> 00:24:31,011 LOOK BACK AT SENATOR BARACK OBAMA AND SAY THAT GUY DOESN'T 446 00:24:31,094 --> 00:24:35,557 KNOW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT, THAT GUY NEEDS A TALKING TO? 447 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,144 >> YEAH, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF TIMES WHERE YOU, PARTICULARLY 448 00:24:39,227 --> 00:24:43,190 AROUND COUNTERTERRORISM ISSUES, WHERE I THINK IT IS DIFFERENT 449 00:24:43,273 --> 00:24:47,569 WHEN YOU'RE ON THE SIDELINES THAN WHEN YOU ARE IN THE SEAT 450 00:24:47,652 --> 00:24:57,537 AND YOU ARE SEEING COMING THROUGH THE TRANSOM JUST A 451 00:24:57,621 --> 00:25:02,250 SERIES OF CLEAR, ACTIONABLE INTELLIGENCE INDICATING THAT 452 00:25:02,334 --> 00:25:09,090 SOME ATTACK MIGHT BE TAKING PLACE, AND YOUR OVERRIDING 453 00:25:09,174 --> 00:25:15,597 CONCERN ABOUT MAKING SURE THE COUNTRY IS SAFE, HOW YOU BALANCE 454 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,809 THAT CONCERN WITH CIVIL LIBERTIES ISSUES, WITH THEY 455 00:25:19,893 --> 00:25:23,188 CANNING SURE THAT YOU ARE -- WITH MAKING SURE THAT YOU ARE 456 00:25:23,271 --> 00:25:29,611 FOLLOWING THE LAW, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS FOR ME THAT WERE 457 00:25:29,694 --> 00:25:33,573 CLEAR, BRIGHT-LINE RULES, WE DON'T TORTURE, WE DON'T 458 00:25:33,657 --> 00:25:36,284 INDEFINITELY HOLD PEOPLE, BUT THERE WERE OTHER ISSUES WHERE, 459 00:25:36,368 --> 00:25:44,459 AS A SENATOR, MY ATTITUDE WAS, YOU KNOW, VERY HARD-NOSED, YOU 460 00:25:44,542 --> 00:25:47,295 KNOW, WE SHOULDN'T BE DOING THIS, WE SHOULDN'T BE DOING THAT 461 00:25:47,379 --> 00:25:51,132 AND THEN, WHEN YOU'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT, YOU'RE THINKING, 462 00:25:51,216 --> 00:25:54,803 OKAY, BUT I REALLY DON'T WANT THIS PERSON TO BLOW UP A SUBWAY, 463 00:25:54,886 --> 00:25:56,304 HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THAT. 464 00:25:56,388 --> 00:25:59,182 >> Stephen: WOULD YOU PUT THE DRONE PROGRAM INTO THE THING 465 00:25:59,266 --> 00:26:03,645 THAT YOUR SENATOR BARACK OBAMA DID NOT UNDERSTAND AS WELL AS 466 00:26:03,728 --> 00:26:07,607 PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA BECAUSE THAT IS SOMETHING YOU GOT A LOT 467 00:26:07,691 --> 00:26:09,317 OF CRITICISM OVER. 468 00:26:09,401 --> 00:26:12,362 >> THE DRONE PROGRAM I DEAL MORE IN THE SECOND VOLUME BECAUSE 469 00:26:12,445 --> 00:26:19,703 WHAT I ACTUALLY DISCOVERED WAS THAT THE CONCERNS WERE BOTH 470 00:26:19,786 --> 00:26:23,832 LEGITIMATE BUT NOT ALWAYS UNDERSTOOD. 471 00:26:23,915 --> 00:26:28,670 THE PROBLEM WITH THE DRONE PROGRAM WAS NOT THAT IT CAUSED 472 00:26:28,753 --> 00:26:34,676 AN INORDINATE AMOUNT OF CIVILIAN CASUALTIES, ALTHOUGH EVEN ONE 473 00:26:34,759 --> 00:26:39,723 CIVILIAN CASUALTY IS TRAGIC, BUT IT ACTUALLY, THE DRONES PROBABLY 474 00:26:39,806 --> 00:26:45,520 HAD LESS COLLATERAL DAMAGE, WHICH IS THE ANTISEPTIC WAY OF 475 00:26:45,603 --> 00:26:49,899 SAYING IT KILLED PEOPLE WHO WERE INNOCENT AND NOT JUST TARGETS, 476 00:26:49,983 --> 00:26:53,403 PROBABLY HAD FEWER -- LESS COLLATERAL DAMAGE THAN IF YOU 477 00:26:53,486 --> 00:26:59,576 SEND IN TROOPS, FOR EXAMPLE, AND YOU'RE IN A FIREFIGHT, OR YOU'RE 478 00:26:59,659 --> 00:27:02,746 DROPPING ORDINATES USING CONVENTIONAL PILOTS. 479 00:27:02,829 --> 00:27:06,708 THE PROBLEM IS IT STARTS GIVING YOU THE ILLUSION THAT IT'S NOT 480 00:27:06,791 --> 00:27:07,625 WAR. 481 00:27:07,709 --> 00:27:10,253 >> Stephen: THE DISTANCE MAKES IT STERILE. 482 00:27:10,337 --> 00:27:14,215 >> YES, AND WHAT I DISCOVERED, AND I WRITE ABOUT THIS IN THE 483 00:27:14,299 --> 00:27:18,720 SECOND VOLUME, THE MACHINERY OF IT STARTED BECOMING TOO EASY, 484 00:27:18,803 --> 00:27:26,686 AND I HAD TO ACTUALLY IMPOSE INTERNALLY A SUBSTANTIAL SET OF 485 00:27:26,770 --> 00:27:30,857 REFORMS IN THE PROCESS TO STEP BACK AND REFINEDMIND EVERYONE 486 00:27:30,940 --> 00:27:36,279 IN-- AND REMIND EVERYONE INVOLVED THIS ISN'T TARGET 487 00:27:36,363 --> 00:27:37,447 PRACTICE. 488 00:27:37,530 --> 00:27:39,741 EACH TIME WE MAKE THIS DECISION, WE ARE ENGAGED IN THE MOST 489 00:27:39,824 --> 00:27:43,787 PROFOUND ACT THAT ANY GOVERNMENT CAN TAKE, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, 490 00:27:43,870 --> 00:27:51,419 USING LETHAL FORCE AGAINST PEOPLE, AND THERE HAVE TO BE 491 00:27:51,503 --> 00:27:52,754 BETTER CHECKS AND BALANCES IN DOING IT. 492 00:27:52,837 --> 00:27:55,882 >> Stephen: YOU HAVE A FAMOUSLY UNLEAKY WHITE HOUSE, NO 493 00:27:55,965 --> 00:27:58,718 DRAMA OBAMA AND NO LEAKS IN THIS WHITE HOUSE. 494 00:27:58,802 --> 00:28:02,680 I'VE SPOKEN TO FORMER STAFF MEMBERS OF YOURS WHO SAID THERE 495 00:28:02,764 --> 00:28:05,600 WERE HEATED DEBATES OVER THE USE OF THE DRONES. 496 00:28:05,683 --> 00:28:06,810 >> YEAH. 497 00:28:06,893 --> 00:28:07,977 >> Stephen: AND I SAID, HOW COME WE DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT THIS? 498 00:28:08,061 --> 00:28:15,777 LIKE, FOR THOSE OUT HERE WHO DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THIS USE OF 499 00:28:15,860 --> 00:28:16,945 EXECUTIVE POWER -- >> RIGHT. 500 00:28:17,028 --> 00:28:21,574 >> Stephen: -- A LITTLE LEAK ON THOSE HEATED DEBATES WOULD 501 00:28:21,658 --> 00:28:23,993 HAVE HELPFUL FOR US TO UNDERSTAND THE THINKING THAT 502 00:28:24,077 --> 00:28:25,161 WENT INTO THIS. 503 00:28:25,245 --> 00:28:27,789 >> THAT'S PART OF WHAT I MEAN ABOUT THE IMBALANCE WHERE SO 504 00:28:27,872 --> 00:28:36,464 MUCH OF FOREIGN POLICY AND MILITARY POLICY IS NOW ENTIRELY 505 00:28:36,548 --> 00:28:45,932 HOUSED IN THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH, THAT CONGRESS GENERALLY IS -- 506 00:28:46,015 --> 00:28:49,894 AND THIS IS TRUE FOR BOTH SIDES -- 507 00:28:49,978 --> 00:28:51,855 >> Stephen: YOU MEAN BOTH SIDES OF THE POLITICAL AISLE? 508 00:28:51,938 --> 00:28:57,318 >> BOTH SIDES OF THE POLITICAL AYE AISLE, THERE'S A TENDENCY 509 00:28:57,402 --> 00:28:59,654 AMONG MEMBERS OF CONGRESS TO SAY WE'LL LET THE PRESIDENT MAKE A 510 00:28:59,737 --> 00:29:03,158 FOREIGN POLICY DECISION AND WE'LL SEE DID IT WORK OR NOT AND 511 00:29:03,241 --> 00:29:07,036 WEIGH IN BASED ON HOW ITS -- >> Stephen: WE'LL KEEP OUR 512 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,832 POWDER DREW BUT NOT AGAINST OUR ENEMY, MAYBE OUR POLITICAL 513 00:29:10,915 --> 00:29:11,166 ENEMIES. 514 00:29:11,249 --> 00:29:11,833 >> YEAH. 515 00:29:11,916 --> 00:29:14,961 AND SOME OF THIS IS INEVITABLE. 516 00:29:15,044 --> 00:29:20,049 IT'S ONE OF THE CHALLENGES OF THESE TERRORIST NETWORKS IS THAT 517 00:29:20,133 --> 00:29:23,720 THEY HAVE -- BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT STATE ACTORS, YOU DON'T KNOW -- 518 00:29:23,803 --> 00:29:35,899 YOU DON'T HAVE A CLEAR VICTORY, YOU DON'T HAVE McARTHUR AND AN 519 00:29:35,982 --> 00:29:37,192 ARMISTICE. 520 00:29:37,275 --> 00:29:42,530 SO YOU HAD THE ENTIRE APPARATUS OF SECURITY THAT'S GROWN UP THAT 521 00:29:42,614 --> 00:29:46,868 IS SOMEWHAT PERPETUAL, AND I THINK ONE OF THE BIG JOBS I HAD 522 00:29:46,951 --> 00:29:54,375 WAS TO TRY TO, FIRST OF ALL, NOT MKE THAT THE END-ALL AND BE-ALL 523 00:29:54,459 --> 00:30:00,840 OF OUR FOREIGN POLICY, TO TRY TO CREATE LEGAL STRUCTURES AROUND 524 00:30:00,924 --> 00:30:08,556 IT, AND I THINK THAT I WAS SUCCESSFUL IN A LOT OF RESPECTS, 525 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:19,442 BUT THERE ARE SOME AREAS, LIKE CLOSING GUANTANAMO, THAT I 526 00:30:19,526 --> 00:30:21,903 COULDN'T GET IT DONE. 527 00:30:21,986 --> 00:30:31,162 >> Stephen: IT WAS MOVES IN PLACE THAT COULDN'T BE UNDONE? 528 00:30:31,246 --> 00:30:35,750 >> I WAS SURPRISED AS COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF I COULD NOT 529 00:30:35,833 --> 00:30:42,465 SHUT DOWN A FACILITY THAT WAS BOTH UNNECESSARY AND, IN MY 530 00:30:42,549 --> 00:30:45,093 VIEW, CONTRARY TO OUR LEGAL TRADITIONS. 531 00:30:45,176 --> 00:30:48,096 >> Stephen: DID YOU EVER ASK FOR INFORMATION AND THEY SAID WE 532 00:30:48,179 --> 00:30:50,139 CAN'T TELL YOU? 533 00:30:50,223 --> 00:30:53,226 >> NO, BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT THERE WERE TIMES WHEN I ASKED 534 00:30:53,309 --> 00:30:55,937 FOR INFORMATION AND IT CAME SLOWER THAN I WANTED. 535 00:30:56,020 --> 00:31:02,068 >> Stephen: WHEN YOU SAY, GET ME THE DECLARATION OF 536 00:31:02,151 --> 00:31:06,155 INDEPENDENCE, LEMON JUICE AND A BLOW DRYER AND WE'RE GOING TO 537 00:31:06,239 --> 00:31:09,951 NICOLAS CAGE THIS BOY AND FIND A TREASURE MAP ON THE BACK. 538 00:31:10,034 --> 00:31:13,288 >> THERE ARE TIMES WHEN PRYING INFORMATION OUT OF THE BOWELS 539 00:31:13,371 --> 00:31:16,416 OVERAN AGENCY CAN BE CHALLENGING. 540 00:31:16,499 --> 00:31:19,460 >> Stephen: U.F.O.s DID YOU ASK ABOUT THAT? 541 00:31:19,544 --> 00:31:24,340 >> CERTAINLY ASKED ABOUT IT. 542 00:31:24,424 --> 00:31:25,550 CAN'T TELL YOU ABOUT IT. 543 00:31:25,633 --> 00:31:31,514 >> Stephen: IF YOU WOULD SAY THERE ARE NONE, THERE ARE NONE. 544 00:31:31,598 --> 00:31:33,474 YOU JUST 100% SHOWED YOUR CARDS. 545 00:31:33,558 --> 00:31:34,142 >> FEEL FREE TO THINK THAT. 546 00:31:34,225 --> 00:31:35,476 >> Stephen: I DO. 547 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,856 IT MAKES ME HAPPY TO THINK YOU WON'T TELL ME ABOUT U.F.O.s. 548 00:31:39,939 --> 00:31:41,983 >> CAN I SAY IT USED TO BE U.F.O.s, ROZ ROSWELL WAS THE 549 00:31:42,066 --> 00:31:45,111 BIGGEST CONSPIRACY, AND NOW THAT'S TAME TO THINK THE 550 00:31:45,194 --> 00:31:47,614 GOVERNMENT MIGHT HAVE AN ALIEN SPACE SHIP. 551 00:31:47,697 --> 00:31:53,828 >> Stephen: NOW THE BIGGEST CONSPIRACY IS PEOPLE IN MICHIGAN 552 00:31:53,911 --> 00:31:54,287 VOTE. 553 00:31:54,370 --> 00:31:55,788 TAKING A BREAK. 554 00:31:55,872 --> 00:32:01,127 BACK WITH MORE OF PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA. 555 00:32:01,210 --> 00:32:02,045 ♪ YOU CAN FEEL IT ALL OVER ♪ 556 00:32:19,103 --> 00:32:21,189 >> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY. 557 00:32:21,272 --> 00:32:23,358 WELCOME BACK TO A "LATE SHOW." 558 00:32:23,441 --> 00:32:27,403 HONOR TO BE SITTING DOWN WITH PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA. 559 00:32:27,487 --> 00:32:30,490 I TALKED TO YOUR WIFE ABOUT THIS. 560 00:32:30,573 --> 00:32:31,949 Y'ALL SEEM STRIKINGLY NORMAL. 561 00:32:32,033 --> 00:32:36,079 LIKE IF I STILL LIVED IN CHICAGO, IF I HAD STAYED THERE, 562 00:32:36,162 --> 00:32:39,165 I'M SURE WE WOULD RUN INTO EACH OTHER. 563 00:32:39,248 --> 00:32:40,166 >> WE WOULD HANG OUT. 564 00:32:40,249 --> 00:32:41,876 >> Stephen: YOU SEEM LIKE PEOPLE WE WOULD KNOW. 565 00:32:41,959 --> 00:32:45,046 NOT EVERYBODY IN WASHINGTON, D.C. SEEMS THAT WAY 566 00:32:45,129 --> 00:32:47,090 AFTER BEING HERE FOR 40 YEARS. 567 00:32:47,173 --> 00:32:52,887 THEY'RE LOVELY PEOPLE, BUT THEY DON'T SEEM LIKE JUST FOLKS. 568 00:32:52,970 --> 00:32:54,055 >> RIGHT. 569 00:32:54,138 --> 00:32:56,432 >> Stephen: WHAT DID YOU THINK YOU GOT FROM, AND YOU TOUCH ON 570 00:32:56,516 --> 00:33:01,020 THIS IN THE BOOK, BEING A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER, TO SNSHT, 571 00:33:01,104 --> 00:33:04,732 TO PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, TO OUT, THAT ALLOWED YOU 572 00:33:04,816 --> 00:33:09,237 TO ATTAIN A LITTLE BIT OF YOUR HUMANITY OR YOUR COMMONALITY OF 573 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,740 THE AMERICAN EXPERIENCE? 574 00:33:12,824 --> 00:33:20,415 >> YOU KNOW, I THINK PART OF IT WAS MY POLITICAL SUCCESS 575 00:33:20,498 --> 00:33:21,666 HAPPENED LATE. 576 00:33:21,749 --> 00:33:25,044 YOU KNOW, IF YOU THINK ABOUT, LET'S SAY, BILL CLINTON, HE WAS, 577 00:33:25,128 --> 00:33:29,257 I THINK, THE YOUNGEST GOVERNOR EVER IN ARKANSAS. 578 00:33:29,340 --> 00:33:32,468 JOE BIDEN WAS A U.S. SENATOR AT 29. 579 00:33:32,552 --> 00:33:39,976 YOU KNOW, AT 40, I HAD JUST LOST A CONGRESSIONAL RACE, I MAXED 580 00:33:40,059 --> 00:33:46,774 OUT ON MY CREDIT CARDS, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO THE GROCERY 581 00:33:46,858 --> 00:33:54,240 STORE WITH MARIA AND SASHA IN TOW -- MALIA AND SASHA IN TOW. 582 00:33:54,323 --> 00:33:59,495 ACTUALLY MALIA, BECAUSE SASHA WAS BORN A YEAR LATER. 583 00:33:59,579 --> 00:34:06,794 AND, SO, WE HAD LIVED A NORMAL, MIDDLE CLASS LIFE WITH STUDENT 584 00:34:06,878 --> 00:34:12,258 LOANS AND WASHING YOUR OWN CAR AND, YOU KNOW, WAITING FOR 585 00:34:12,341 --> 00:34:17,305 LUGGAGE AT THE AIRPORT, YOU KNOW, COMING BACK FROM, YOU 586 00:34:17,388 --> 00:34:21,809 KNOW, A VACATION. 587 00:34:21,893 --> 00:34:25,646 AND, SO, WE THEN GET KIND OF SHOT OUT OF A CANON. 588 00:34:25,730 --> 00:34:28,107 BUT YOU'RE FORMED BY THAT POINT, YOU KNOW. 589 00:34:28,191 --> 00:34:34,655 AS I USED TO DESCRIBE TO FOLKS RIGHT AFTER I GAVE THAT SPEECH 590 00:34:34,739 --> 00:34:40,244 AT THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION, I WASN'T SMARTER THE 591 00:34:40,328 --> 00:34:48,044 DAY AFTER THAT SPEECH THAN I HAD BEEN THE DAY BEFORE. 592 00:34:48,127 --> 00:34:52,215 MY FIRST BOOK WAS NO DIFFERENT, THE ONE THAT SOLD 14,000 COPIES 593 00:34:52,298 --> 00:34:56,969 AND THEN SOLD 3 MILLION COPIES AFTER THAT SPEECH, RIGHT. 594 00:34:57,053 --> 00:35:00,056 IT'S JUST, SUDDENLY, YOU'RE GETTING ALL THIS ATTENTION. 595 00:35:00,139 --> 00:35:08,856 SO, I THINK, FOR MICHELLE AND FOR ME, WE BOTH TOOK THE 596 00:35:08,940 --> 00:35:11,526 OUTSIZED FAME WITH A GRAIN OF SALT. 597 00:35:11,609 --> 00:35:14,654 AND THEN, AS I WRITE ABOUT IN THE BOOK, IT ALSO HELPED TO HAVE 598 00:35:14,737 --> 00:35:19,033 MY MOTHER-IN-LAW AROUND, WHO IS THE LEAST PRETENTIOUS PERSON I 599 00:35:19,116 --> 00:35:19,700 KNOW. 600 00:35:19,784 --> 00:35:20,868 >> Stephen: I HAVE MET HER. 601 00:35:20,952 --> 00:35:25,373 HE'S DOWN TO EARTH AND SHE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND ALL THE FUSS, 602 00:35:25,456 --> 00:35:28,876 AND, YOU KNOW, AND SHE WAS GREAT TO HAVE AROUND, ALSO, WITH THE 603 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:29,919 GIRLS. 604 00:35:30,002 --> 00:35:32,672 I WRITE ABOUT THE FACT THAT PROBABLY MAYBE ONE OF MY 605 00:35:32,755 --> 00:35:36,425 GREATEST SUCCESSES AND MICHELLE'S GREATEST SUCCESS IN 606 00:35:36,509 --> 00:35:40,388 THOSE EIGHT YEARS WAS RAISING THESE GREAT GIRLS WHO DON'T HAVE 607 00:35:40,471 --> 00:35:43,516 AN ATTITUDE AND DON'T FEEL ENTITLED, BUT PART OF IT IS 608 00:35:43,599 --> 00:35:49,105 BECAUSE MY MOTHER-IN-LAW, IF SHE SAW THEM ACTING BRATTY OR -- YOU 609 00:35:49,188 --> 00:35:54,110 GUYS HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING, WHY ARE YOU ACTING SPECIAL? 610 00:35:54,193 --> 00:35:58,197 YOU'RE JUST HERE FOR THE RIDE, YOU KNOW. 611 00:35:58,281 --> 00:36:02,201 AND THEY'D SUDDENLY GO, YOU'RE RIGHT, GRANDMA. 612 00:36:02,285 --> 00:36:05,413 SO SHE WAS A HUGE BLESSING. 613 00:36:05,496 --> 00:36:10,251 >> Stephen: IN THAT SPEECH IN 2004 IN THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL 614 00:36:10,334 --> 00:36:12,378 CONVENTION, I WAS IN BOSTON WATCHING IT FROM ACROSS THE 615 00:36:12,461 --> 00:36:16,299 STREET, WE WERE STRUCK -- I WAS WATCHING IT WITH ME AND JON 616 00:36:16,382 --> 00:36:21,429 STEWART AND SOME OTHERS WERE WATCHING YOU GIVE THIS SPEECH 617 00:36:21,512 --> 00:36:24,307 AND WERE SAYING, WHO'S THIS BARACK OBAMA GUY? 618 00:36:24,390 --> 00:36:28,644 AND I BELIEVE THAT'S THE SPEECH WHERE YOU THREW IN I AM THE 619 00:36:28,728 --> 00:36:32,106 GRANDSON OF A GOAT HERDER. 620 00:36:32,190 --> 00:36:33,065 BOOM! 621 00:36:33,149 --> 00:36:35,943 THAT IS THE HUMBLE BEGINNINGS NEUTRON BOMB. 622 00:36:36,027 --> 00:36:41,782 DID YOU KNOW, LET'S PUT THIS IN HERE AND I'LL BLOW SON OF A MILK 623 00:36:41,866 --> 00:36:44,744 MAN OFF THE STREENCHTS GOAT HERDER IS HARD TO TOP. 624 00:36:44,827 --> 00:36:50,333 YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO LOG CABIN DAYS TO BEAT GOAT HERDER. 625 00:36:50,416 --> 00:36:52,668 >> Stephen: WE HAVE TO PAY THE BILLS AGAIN. 626 00:36:52,752 --> 00:36:53,377 EVERYBODY STICK AROUND. 627 00:36:53,461 --> 00:36:53,502 BACK WITH MORE PRESIDENT BRACH. 628 00:37:33,918 --> 00:37:34,961 >> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY, WELCOME BACK. 629 00:37:35,044 --> 00:37:36,128 I CAN'T BELIEVE I GET TO TALK TO PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA. 630 00:37:36,212 --> 00:37:41,008 BARACK OBAMA, AFTER EIGHT YEARS OF PRESIDENT AND NUMEROUS 631 00:37:41,092 --> 00:37:43,511 INTERVIEWS, I'M SURE YOU HAVE BEEN ASKED EVERY QUESTION IN THE 632 00:37:43,594 --> 00:37:44,679 WORLD. 633 00:37:44,762 --> 00:37:47,723 WE WOULD LIKE TO DO A SEGMENT WE'RE CALLING QUESTIONS WE'RE 634 00:37:47,807 --> 00:37:51,018 PRETTY SURE BARACK OBAMA HAS NEVER BEEN ASKED. 635 00:37:51,102 --> 00:37:57,692 DAIRY QUEEN BLIZZARD OR FROSTIES FROM WENDY'S. 636 00:37:57,775 --> 00:37:58,693 >> FROSTIES FROM WENDY'S. 637 00:37:58,776 --> 00:38:01,320 >> Stephen: BEST MONOPOLY PLAYING PIECE? 638 00:38:01,404 --> 00:38:02,321 >> THE CAR. 639 00:38:02,405 --> 00:38:03,781 >> Stephen: THAT'S RIGHT, WHAT DID I SAY BEFORE? 640 00:38:03,864 --> 00:38:04,824 THE CAR. 641 00:38:04,907 --> 00:38:05,533 >> IT DOESN'T TIP OVER. 642 00:38:05,616 --> 00:38:07,159 IT'S GOT GOOD STABILITY. 643 00:38:07,243 --> 00:38:07,702 >> Stephen: IT'S THE CAR. 644 00:38:07,785 --> 00:38:10,162 WHAT GOES IN A TOASTER. 645 00:38:10,246 --> 00:38:10,997 >> TOAST. 646 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:11,872 >> Stephen: BREAD GOES IN THE TOASTER. 647 00:38:11,956 --> 00:38:13,040 TOAST COMES OUT. 648 00:38:13,124 --> 00:38:15,543 >> THAT WAS A TRICK QUESTION. 649 00:38:15,626 --> 00:38:19,755 >> Stephen: HOW DOES DOLLY PARTON NOT HAVE A PRESIDENTIAL 650 00:38:19,839 --> 00:38:21,257 MEDAL OF FREEDOM? 651 00:38:21,340 --> 00:38:22,008 >> THAT'S A MISTAKE. 652 00:38:22,091 --> 00:38:23,050 >> Stephen: YES. 653 00:38:23,134 --> 00:38:24,218 I'M SHOCKED. 654 00:38:24,301 --> 00:38:26,387 >> Stephen: LOOKING BACK ON YOUR EIGHT YEARS, DO YOU REALIZE 655 00:38:26,470 --> 00:38:29,223 THAT'S THE MISTAKE THAT YOU MADE. 656 00:38:29,306 --> 00:38:30,391 >> ACTUALLY, THAT WAS A SCREWUP. 657 00:38:30,474 --> 00:38:33,728 I'M SURPRISED -- I THINK I ASSUMED THAT SHE HAD ALREADY GOT 658 00:38:33,811 --> 00:38:34,395 ONE AND THAT WAS INCORRECT. 659 00:38:34,478 --> 00:38:37,565 >> Stephen: I ASSUME, TOO. 660 00:38:37,648 --> 00:38:38,065 I'M SURPRISED. 661 00:38:38,149 --> 00:38:38,482 SHE DESERVES ONE. 662 00:38:38,566 --> 00:38:38,941 I'LL CALL BIDEN. 663 00:38:39,025 --> 00:38:40,943 >> Stephen: DO IT. 664 00:38:41,027 --> 00:38:43,571 WE'RE A COUPLE OF DAYS BEFORE THANKSGIVING. 665 00:38:43,654 --> 00:38:48,617 C.D.C. IS URGING FAMILIES TO JUST DO ZOOM THANKSGIVINGS RIGHT 666 00:38:48,701 --> 00:38:54,081 NOW, DON'T HAVE YOUR FRIENDS OVER, SO I KNOW YOU CAN'T INVITE 667 00:38:54,165 --> 00:38:58,377 ME BECAUSE IT JUST WOULDN'T BE SAY, IT WOULDN'T BE THE 668 00:38:58,461 --> 00:38:59,628 RESPONSIBLE THING TO DO. 669 00:38:59,712 --> 00:39:02,590 SO YOU KNOW I CAN'T COME AND I'M NOT GOING TO COME, BUT JUST FOR 670 00:39:02,673 --> 00:39:04,550 NICETIES, WOULD YOU LIKE TO INVITE ME? 671 00:39:04,633 --> 00:39:06,218 BECAUSE YOU KNOW I CAN'T COME. 672 00:39:06,302 --> 00:39:07,595 >> I DID INVITE YOUR WIFE. 673 00:39:07,678 --> 00:39:09,096 >> Stephen: WHAT? 674 00:39:09,180 --> 00:39:10,097 I WOULDN'T INVITE YOU. 675 00:39:10,181 --> 00:39:12,391 >> Stephen: YOU WOULD INVITE MY WIFE? 676 00:39:12,475 --> 00:39:13,642 HONEY! 677 00:39:13,726 --> 00:39:16,812 >> I ALSO THINK THAT SHE WILL BE OBSERVING ALL THE PERI PROTOCOLS 678 00:39:16,896 --> 00:39:17,563 BETTER THAN YOU. 679 00:39:17,646 --> 00:39:20,316 >> Stephen: CAN BY HER PLUS ONE? 680 00:39:20,399 --> 00:39:21,108 >> WE'LL THINK ABOUT IT. 681 00:39:21,192 --> 00:39:22,943 >> Stephen: OKAY. 682 00:39:23,027 --> 00:39:26,447 PRESIDENT OBAMA, I'VE REALLY ENJOYED TALKING TO YOU ABOUT 683 00:39:26,530 --> 00:39:28,574 PART ONE OF YOUR MEMOIRS. 684 00:39:28,657 --> 00:39:29,658 >> THANK YOU. 685 00:39:29,742 --> 00:39:32,953 >> Stephen: THANK YOU SPHOIRTING DOWN FOR PART ONE OF 686 00:39:33,037 --> 00:39:33,913 OUR INTERVIEW. 687 00:39:33,996 --> 00:39:34,789 >> IT'S BEEN FANTASTIC. 688 00:39:34,872 --> 00:39:48,219 >> Stephen: YEAH. 689 00:39:48,219 --> 00:39:50,638 >> STEPHEN: WELL, THAT'S IT FOR "A LATE SHOW," EVERYBODY. 690 00:39:50,721 --> 00:39:54,809 I WANT TO THANK MY GUEST PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA. 691 00:39:54,892 --> 00:39:55,893 OKAY, HE'S GONE. 692 00:39:55,976 --> 00:40:01,941 IS THERE ANY CHANCE -- DO WE KNOW IF HE'S COMING BACK? 693 00:40:02,024 --> 00:40:03,484 AND EVERYONE IS GONE. 694 00:40:03,567 --> 00:40:04,193 THERE'S NO ONE HERE. 695 00:40:04,276 --> 00:40:05,569 DO WE KNOW HOW I'M GETTING HOME? 696 00:40:05,653 --> 00:40:09,365 I'M SURE SOMEONE WILL COME BACK. 697 00:40:09,448 --> 00:40:13,369 GOOD NIGHT. 698 00:40:13,452 --> 00:40:14,745 HLLO! 699 00:40:19,875 --> 00:40:21,001 Captioning sponsored by CBS Captioned by 700 00:40:21,085 --> 00:40:26,841 Media Access Group at WGBH access.wgbh.org 701 00:40:26,924 --> 00:40:27,508 >> Stephen: HELLO! 702 00:40:27,591 --> 00:40:28,467 IS THERE ROOM SERVICE HERE?