1 00:00:01,626 --> 00:00:02,752 >> DEMOCRATS ARE CURRENTLY DEBATING WHETHER TO INCLUDE THE 2 00:00:02,836 --> 00:00:03,920 MINIMUM WAGE HIKE IN THE STIMULUS PACKAGE, BUT NOT ALL OF 3 00:00:04,003 --> 00:00:06,172 THEM ARE ON BOARD. 4 00:00:06,256 --> 00:00:07,048 SENATOR JOE MANCHIN SAID HE SUPPORTS A MINIMUM WAGE 5 00:00:07,132 --> 00:00:11,469 INCREASE, BUT NOT AS HIGH AS $15 AN HOUR. 6 00:00:11,553 --> 00:00:14,222 >> MANCHIN SAYS $11 WOULD ALLOW THE PARTY TO COMPROMISE ON ONE 7 00:00:14,305 --> 00:00:15,265 OF THE THORNIEST ISSUES IN THIS DEBATE. 8 00:00:15,348 --> 00:00:20,437 >> JOE MANCHIN, HE'S REALLY PLAYING DEAL MAKER HERE. 9 00:00:58,933 --> 00:01:03,438 >> Announcer: IT'S "A LATE SHOW WITH STEPHEN COLBERT." 10 00:01:03,521 --> 00:01:09,152 TONIGHT: A DOSE OF GOOD NEWS. 11 00:01:09,235 --> 00:01:15,033 PLUS STEPHEN WELCOMES BILLIE EILISH 12 00:01:15,116 --> 00:01:16,117 AND ANNA PALMER AND JAKE SHERMAN 13 00:01:16,201 --> 00:01:22,332 FEATURING JON BATISTE AND STAY HUMAN. 14 00:01:22,415 --> 00:01:23,500 AND NOW, LIVE oN TAPE FROM THE ED SULLIVAN THEATER OFFICE 15 00:01:23,583 --> 00:01:31,007 BUILDING IN NEW YORK CITY, IT'S STEPHEN COLBERT! 16 00:01:31,090 --> 00:01:31,633 >> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY! 17 00:01:31,716 --> 00:01:33,134 WELCOME TO "A LATE SHOW." 18 00:01:33,218 --> 00:01:34,677 I'M YOUR HOST, STEPHEN COLBERT. 19 00:01:34,761 --> 00:01:35,303 I HOPE YOU'RE DOING OKAY. 20 00:01:35,386 --> 00:01:39,307 IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU. 21 00:01:39,390 --> 00:01:44,479 IT HAS BEEN-- IT'S BEEN A ROUGH YEAR. 22 00:01:44,562 --> 00:01:45,730 HOW ROUGH? 23 00:01:45,814 --> 00:01:47,524 WELL, IN THE LAST 24 HOURS, THE BIGGEST STORIES ALL INVOLVE OLD 24 00:01:47,607 --> 00:01:49,192 MEN CRYING. 25 00:01:49,275 --> 00:01:51,486 IT'S LIKE BEING AT DENNY'S THE DAY THEY DISCONTINUE THE $6.99 26 00:01:51,569 --> 00:01:54,197 SUPER SLAM. 27 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:58,201 THE FIRST WEEPING SEPTUAGENARIAN: PRESIDENT JOE 28 00:01:58,284 --> 00:01:59,244 BIDEN. 29 00:01:59,327 --> 00:02:05,834 AND IT IS OUR GOOD GRACE THAT HE IS WILLING TO WEEP. 30 00:02:05,917 --> 00:02:07,001 BECAUSE YESTERDAY, THE PRESIDENT 31 00:02:07,085 --> 00:02:09,379 COMMEMORATED THE HEARTBREAKING NUMBER OF AMERICANS WHO HAVE 32 00:02:09,462 --> 00:02:11,506 DIED DURING THE PANDEMIC. 33 00:02:11,589 --> 00:02:19,514 >> TODAY, WE MARK A TRULY GRIM, HEARTBREAKING MILESTONE, 34 00:02:19,597 --> 00:02:21,724 500,071 DEAD. 35 00:02:21,808 --> 00:02:27,522 THAT'S MORE AMERICANS WHO DIED IN ONE YEAR IN THIS PANDEMIC 36 00:02:27,605 --> 00:02:31,526 THAN IN WORLD WAR I, WORLD WAR II, AND THE VIETNAM WAR 37 00:02:31,609 --> 00:02:33,611 COMBINED. 38 00:02:33,695 --> 00:02:36,072 >> Stephen: THAT IS A HORRIFYING AND TRAGIC NUMBER THAT WAS 39 00:02:36,155 --> 00:02:42,412 COMPLETELY AVOIDABLE, THAT WE COULD ALL SEE COMING, AND WAS 40 00:02:42,495 --> 00:02:43,872 CLEARLY THE RESULT OF FAILED LEADERSHIP. 41 00:02:43,955 --> 00:02:45,290 AFTER ALL, THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN WAY MORE CASUALTIES IN WORLD 42 00:02:45,373 --> 00:02:47,542 WAR II IF PATTON'S SPEECH WENT LIKE THIS: 43 00:02:47,625 --> 00:02:51,588 >> NOW, I WANT YOU TO REMEMBER THAT NO BASTARD EVER WON A WAR 44 00:02:51,671 --> 00:02:53,464 BY DYING FOR HIS COUNTRY. 45 00:02:53,548 --> 00:02:55,466 SO DON'T LET THE NAZIS DOMINATE YOUR LIFE. 46 00:02:55,550 --> 00:02:59,429 THEY'LL BE GONE BY THE SPRING. 47 00:02:59,512 --> 00:03:02,181 NOW, TAKE THE ADVICE OF MY FAVORITE PILLOW SALESMAN, AND 48 00:03:02,265 --> 00:03:03,141 EAT YOUR BLEACH. 49 00:03:03,224 --> 00:03:07,145 IT'LL GO THROUGH YOU LIKE CRAP THROUGH A GOOSE. 50 00:03:07,228 --> 00:03:09,188 >> Stephen: IT WAS A DEVASTATING, BUT POWERFUL SPEECH 51 00:03:09,272 --> 00:03:11,941 BECAUSE OF BIDEN'S WILLINGNESS TO SHARE IN OUR NATIONAL GRIEF 52 00:03:12,025 --> 00:03:15,570 BY NAMING HIS PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH UNIMAGINABLE 53 00:03:15,653 --> 00:03:19,574 LOSS. 54 00:03:19,657 --> 00:03:26,456 IT'S HARD FOOTAGE TO PLAY ON A COMEDY SHOW LIKE THIS, BUT IT'S 55 00:03:26,539 --> 00:03:27,749 NUTRITIOUS TO THE SOUL TO SEE A PRESIDENT FINALLY FACING OUR 56 00:03:27,832 --> 00:03:30,084 EMOTIONAL REALITY. 57 00:03:30,168 --> 00:03:32,879 AND IT'S REFRESHING. 58 00:03:32,962 --> 00:03:34,672 BECAUSE THE PREVIOUS GUY'S EMOTIONAL RANGE RAN THE GAMUT 59 00:03:34,756 --> 00:03:35,924 FROM ANGRY TO HANGRY. 60 00:03:36,007 --> 00:03:39,302 TO PUT THE MONUMENTAL LOSS HE WAS ADDRESSING INTO PERSPECTIVE, 61 00:03:39,385 --> 00:03:42,263 THE U.S. HAS ABOUT 4% OF THE WORLD'S POPULATION AND RECORDED 62 00:03:42,347 --> 00:03:44,307 25% OF THE COVID CASES AND 20% OF THE FATALITIES. 63 00:03:44,390 --> 00:03:47,560 IF A RESTAURANT HAD THE HEALTH RECORD THE UNITED STATES DOES, 64 00:03:47,644 --> 00:03:51,648 THE LETTER GRADE OUT FRONT WOULD BE "NOT AVAILABLE-- INSPECTOR 65 00:03:51,731 --> 00:03:53,983 DEVOURED BY RATS." 66 00:03:54,067 --> 00:03:55,985 BUT DESPITE THE HISTORY OF BADNESS, THERE ARE REASONS FOR 67 00:03:56,069 --> 00:03:57,654 HOPE. 68 00:03:57,737 --> 00:03:59,530 THE VACCINATIONS ARE SPEEDING UP. 69 00:03:59,614 --> 00:04:02,200 AND, YESTERDAY, WE LEARNED ANOTHER ONE IS ABOUT TO COME ON 70 00:04:02,283 --> 00:04:05,453 THE MARKET, BECAUSE JOHNSON & JOHNSON ANNOUNCED IT CAN 71 00:04:05,536 --> 00:04:09,499 PROVIDE 20 MILLION VACCINE DOSES BY LATE MARCH. 72 00:04:09,582 --> 00:04:11,626 THAT IS SUCH GREAT NEWS, I COULD CRY! 73 00:04:11,709 --> 00:04:15,630 BUT I KNOW JOHNSON & JOHNSON HAS A STRICT POLICY OF "NO MORE 74 00:04:15,713 --> 00:04:18,675 TEARS." 75 00:04:18,758 --> 00:04:21,386 OH, AND THERE'S MORE GOOD NEWS: THE SEVEN-DAY AVERAGE NUMBER OF 76 00:04:21,469 --> 00:04:24,138 CASES IS DOWN 75%, DAILY HOSPITAL ADMISSION RATE DROPPED 77 00:04:24,222 --> 00:04:30,812 60%, AND IN THE PAST WEEK, DEATHS HAVE DROPPED NEARLY 39%. 78 00:04:30,895 --> 00:04:32,855 THAT IS WONDERFUL-- IF YOU IGNORE THE FACT THAT THESE 79 00:04:32,939 --> 00:04:35,650 NUMBERS ARE COMPARABLE TO LAST SUMMER'S PEAK. 80 00:04:35,733 --> 00:04:37,819 ALL RIGHT! 81 00:04:37,902 --> 00:04:40,196 WE'RE BACK WHERE WE WERE WHEN WE THOUGHT IT COULDN'T GET ANY 82 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:40,989 WORSE, BUT WE WERE WRONG! 83 00:04:41,072 --> 00:04:43,574 WOO-HOO! 84 00:04:43,658 --> 00:04:48,830 JIMMY, HIT THE FIREWORKS! 85 00:04:48,913 --> 00:04:49,163 YEEEEAH. 86 00:04:49,247 --> 00:04:54,002 ICA BOOM! 87 00:04:54,085 --> 00:04:55,586 I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE BANKING DOWN MY ENTHUSIASM. 88 00:04:55,670 --> 00:05:06,222 APPARENTLY, THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION ITSELF HAS 89 00:05:06,305 --> 00:05:07,724 REFUSED TO PUBLICLY CELEBRATE THE PROGRESS WE'RE MAKING 90 00:05:07,807 --> 00:05:09,225 BECAUSE THEY FEAR "IT WILL PROMPT PANDEMIC-WEARY 91 00:05:09,308 --> 00:05:10,184 AMERICANS TO RELAX TOO SOON." 92 00:05:10,268 --> 00:05:11,269 ( AS BIDEN ) "DON'T LET YOUR GUARD DOWN, 93 00:05:11,352 --> 00:05:12,145 JACK! 94 00:05:12,228 --> 00:05:15,565 OL' CORONA COULD JUST BE PLAYIN' POSSUM! 95 00:05:15,648 --> 00:05:16,816 OKAY? 96 00:05:16,899 --> 00:05:17,608 THE BOTTOM OF THE TRASH CAN, YOU THINK IT'S A DEAD RAT, THEN IT 97 00:05:17,692 --> 00:05:18,901 JUMPS UP AND GRABS YOU BY THE EARS. 98 00:05:18,985 --> 00:05:19,694 THEY GOT OPPOSABLE THUMBS! 99 00:05:19,777 --> 00:05:22,155 START BURROWING IN YOUR EYE SOCKET! 100 00:05:22,238 --> 00:05:24,282 ANYWAY, STOP, DROP, AND ROLL-- DON'T DO DRUGS. 101 00:05:24,365 --> 00:05:28,036 ( LAUGHTER ) READING IS FUNDAMENTAL. 102 00:05:28,119 --> 00:05:33,708 ONLY DOPES DO DOPE." 103 00:05:33,791 --> 00:05:38,296 LAUGH ONE OF THOSE IS APPLICABLE. 104 00:05:38,379 --> 00:05:39,714 THE POINT IS, I KNOW IT'S BEEN ALMOST A YEAR, BUT WE CAN'T LET 105 00:05:39,797 --> 00:05:41,090 UP NOW. 106 00:05:41,174 --> 00:05:43,718 AND SOMEBODY OUGHT TO TELL THAT TO NEW YORK GOVERNOR AND MAN 107 00:05:43,801 --> 00:05:47,430 JUST DARING YOU TO PULL HIS FINGER, ANDREW CUOMO. 108 00:05:47,513 --> 00:05:50,933 BECAUSE, YESTERDAY, THE GOVERNOR ANNOUNCED THAT, FOR THE FIRST 109 00:05:51,017 --> 00:05:52,101 TIME IN NEARLY A YEAR, MOVIE THEATERS IN NEW YORK CITY WILL 110 00:05:52,185 --> 00:05:55,646 BE PERMITTED TO OPEN. 111 00:05:55,730 --> 00:05:58,191 IT'S ALL PART OF CUOMO'S NEW COVID RESPONSE PLAN, "OPERATION: 112 00:05:58,274 --> 00:05:59,984 PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT THE NURSING HOME THING." 113 00:06:00,068 --> 00:06:03,446 ( AS CUOMO ) "I WAS A MEME! 114 00:06:03,529 --> 00:06:04,197 REMEMBER? 115 00:06:04,280 --> 00:06:07,784 DO I HAVE A NIPPLE RING OR DON'T I? 116 00:06:07,867 --> 00:06:10,828 WHERE ARE MY CUOMOSEXUALS AT?" NOW, I AM NOT A PUBLIC HEALTH 117 00:06:10,912 --> 00:06:13,748 EXPERT, NOR DO I RUN A MOVIE THEATER, BUT THIS SOUNDS 118 00:06:13,831 --> 00:06:14,957 QUESTIONABLE TO ME. 119 00:06:15,041 --> 00:06:20,671 THE WHOLE REASON CASES ARE GOING DOWN IS THAT WE'RE NOT DOING 120 00:06:20,755 --> 00:06:21,839 THINGS LIKE GOING TO THE MOVIES. 121 00:06:21,923 --> 00:06:26,636 BUT IT'S HARDLY WORTH IT JUST TO BE COMPLETELY CONFUSED BY 122 00:06:26,719 --> 00:06:27,804 "TENET" ON THE BIG SCREEN! 123 00:06:27,887 --> 00:06:31,766 OF COURSE, THE GOVERNOR PROMISES THERE WILL BE PRECAUTIONS. 124 00:06:31,849 --> 00:06:34,644 FOR INSTANCE, THE THEATERS WILL ONLY BE PERMITTED TO OPERATE AT 125 00:06:34,727 --> 00:06:35,978 25% OF THEIR MAXIMUM CAPACITY, WITH NO MORE THAN 50 PEOPLE PER 126 00:06:36,062 --> 00:06:39,524 SCREENING. 127 00:06:39,607 --> 00:06:43,152 SO, IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE NEW LIAM NEESON MOVIE "MARKSMAN," 128 00:06:43,236 --> 00:06:43,778 YOU SHOULD BE SAFE. 129 00:06:43,861 --> 00:06:47,240 BRING 49 FRIENDS. 130 00:06:47,323 --> 00:06:48,491 ( LAUGHTER ) ARE YOU A BIG FAN? 131 00:06:48,574 --> 00:06:50,660 ARE YOU A BIG MAN. 132 00:06:50,743 --> 00:06:53,871 ARE YOU LOOKED FORWARD TO SEEING "MARKSMAN"? 133 00:06:53,955 --> 00:06:57,208 YOU'RE AFRAID LIAM IS GOING TO BE MAD ABOUT THE JOKE. 134 00:06:57,291 --> 00:06:58,668 LIAM AND I ARE FRIENDS. 135 00:06:58,751 --> 00:07:01,838 YOU CAN'T TELL FROM THAT JOKE, BUT WE'RE FRIENDS! 136 00:07:01,921 --> 00:07:03,840 HE DOESN'T WRITE THEM. 137 00:07:03,923 --> 00:07:08,636 ( LAUGHTER ) HEHE HAS A CERTAIN SET OF SKILLS 138 00:07:08,719 --> 00:07:11,848 THEY DO NOT INVOLVE WRITING MOVIES. 139 00:07:11,931 --> 00:07:15,184 ( LAUGHTER ) IN ADDITION, MASKS WILL BE 140 00:07:15,268 --> 00:07:17,895 MANDATORY, AND THEATERS WILL BE REQUIRED TO HAVE ENHANCED AIR 141 00:07:17,979 --> 00:07:19,438 FILTRATION SYSTEMS. 142 00:07:19,522 --> 00:07:21,858 AND YOU'D BETTER HOPE THESE PRECAUTIONS WORK, BECAUSE TESTS 143 00:07:21,941 --> 00:07:23,651 FOR THE CORONAVIRUS WILL NOT BE REQUIRED. 144 00:07:23,734 --> 00:07:27,655 IT EXPLAINS THE UPDATE TO THEIR LITTLE SONG: 145 00:07:27,738 --> 00:07:30,533 ♪ LET'S ALL GO TO THE HOSPITAL 146 00:07:30,616 --> 00:07:34,203 ♪ AND HAVE THE DOC SWAB OUR SPITTLE 147 00:07:34,287 --> 00:07:35,872 ♪ LET'S ALL GO TO THE HOSPITAL 148 00:07:35,955 --> 00:07:41,669 ♪ BECAUSE WE WATCHED "THE CROODS" ♪ 149 00:07:41,752 --> 00:07:43,546 >> Stephen: DESPITE THE ENHANCED RISK, THE GOVERNOR MADE IT CLEAR 150 00:07:43,629 --> 00:07:46,507 THAT MOVIE THEATER EMPLOYEES ARE NOT YET ELIGIBLE FOR THE 151 00:07:46,591 --> 00:07:47,508 COVID-19 VACCINE. 152 00:07:47,592 --> 00:07:51,888 SO, THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO USE A LOT OF PURELL. 153 00:07:51,971 --> 00:07:55,850 OR THE POPCORN TOPPING. 154 00:07:55,933 --> 00:07:57,518 THAT WILL EVENTUALLY KILL EVERYTHING IT TOUCHES. 155 00:07:57,602 --> 00:07:59,729 THIS STORY UNDERLINES THE FUNDAMENTAL INEQUITY IN 156 00:07:59,812 --> 00:08:02,148 DISTRIBUTING VACCINES IN THIS COUNTRY. 157 00:08:02,231 --> 00:08:07,695 FOR INSTANCE, ACCORDING TO THE C.D.C., BLACK PEOPLE AND LATINOS 158 00:08:07,778 --> 00:08:08,905 ARE THREE TIMES MORE LIKELY TO BE HOSPITALIZED AND TWICE AS 159 00:08:08,988 --> 00:08:11,199 LIKELY TO DIE FROM THE VIRUS, BUT BLACK AND LATINO AMERICANS 160 00:08:11,282 --> 00:08:12,909 ARE BEING VACCINATED AT LOWER RATES. 161 00:08:12,992 --> 00:08:18,080 SO THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA DECIDED TO DO SOMETHING 162 00:08:18,164 --> 00:08:18,748 ABOUT THAT. 163 00:08:18,831 --> 00:08:19,832 THAT'S NICE. 164 00:08:19,916 --> 00:08:21,500 THEY CREATED A PROGRAM WHERE MEMBERS OF UNDER-SERVED 165 00:08:21,584 --> 00:08:23,920 COMMUNITIES WOULD BE THE ONLY ONES ALLOWED TO MAKE CERTAIN 166 00:08:24,003 --> 00:08:27,256 VACCINATION APPOINTMENTS USING SPECIAL ACCESS CODES PROVIDED TO 167 00:08:27,340 --> 00:08:28,507 COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS. 168 00:08:28,591 --> 00:08:31,928 AND IF YOU USE THE CODE "UP, UP, DOWN, DOWN, LEFT, RIGHT, LEFT, 169 00:08:32,011 --> 00:08:35,932 RIGHT, B., A., START," YOU GET A VACCINE APPOINTMENT AND THE 170 00:08:36,015 --> 00:08:36,933 FEATHER THAT MAKES YOU FLY. 171 00:08:37,016 --> 00:08:40,186 THIS IS AN EQUITABLE SYSTEM PROMOTING FAIRNESS, SO 172 00:08:40,269 --> 00:08:43,606 NATURALLY, LOS ANGELES' WEALTHY ARE NABBING THE SECRET VACCINE 173 00:08:43,689 --> 00:08:46,984 APPOINTMENT CODES FROM MINORITY COMMUNITIES. 174 00:08:47,068 --> 00:08:48,277 IT'S ALL CHRONICLED IN THE NEW SERIES, "THE REAL ASS WIPES OF 175 00:08:48,361 --> 00:08:51,948 BEVERLY HILLS." 176 00:08:52,031 --> 00:08:55,910 ONTO THE NEXT CRYING OLD MAN, ATTORNEY GENERAL NOMINEE, AND 177 00:08:55,993 --> 00:08:59,747 MAN DESCRIBING HIS INVISIBLE RABBIT FRIEND, MERRICK GARLAND, 178 00:08:59,830 --> 00:09:01,791 WHO VOWS TO TARGET WHITE SUPREMACISTS AS ATTORNEY 179 00:09:01,874 --> 00:09:03,125 GENERAL. 180 00:09:03,209 --> 00:09:06,087 AND FOR A CHANGE, IT'S NOT TO GIVE THEM MEDALS OF FREEDOM. 181 00:09:06,170 --> 00:09:07,964 GARLAND ALREADY HAS A LIFETIME APPOINTMENT AS A FEDERAL JUDGE, 182 00:09:08,047 --> 00:09:11,968 BUT HE'S GIVING THAT UP TO BE ATTORNEY GENERAL, AND YESTERDAY, 183 00:09:12,051 --> 00:09:18,683 HE TEARFULLY EXPLAINED WHY. 184 00:09:18,766 --> 00:09:23,980 >> I COME FROM A FAMILY WHERE MY GRANDPARENTS FLED ANTI-SEMITISM 185 00:09:24,063 --> 00:09:25,648 AND PERSECUTION. 186 00:09:25,731 --> 00:09:39,829 THE COUNTRY TOOK US IN-- AND PROTECTED US. 187 00:09:39,912 --> 00:09:43,958 AND I FEEL AN OBLIGATION TO THE COUNTRY TO PAY BACK, AND THIS IS 188 00:09:44,041 --> 00:09:48,504 THE HIGHEST, BEST USE OF MY OWN SET OF SKILLS TO PAY BACK. 189 00:09:48,587 --> 00:09:52,008 >> Stephen: THAT'S WHAT WE'VE COME TO IN THIS COUNTRY: THE 190 00:09:52,091 --> 00:09:54,677 GRANDSON OF PEOPLE WHO FLED GENOCIDE IS PROMISING TO SAVE 191 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,804 OUR COUNTRY FROM WHITE SUPREMACISTS. 192 00:09:56,887 --> 00:10:01,225 AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE HARD TO FIND. 193 00:10:01,309 --> 00:10:06,480 JOSH HAWLEY IS SITTING RIGHT ACROSS THE ROOM FROM HIM. 194 00:10:06,564 --> 00:10:07,982 SPEAKING OF MOBS OF ANGRY IDIOTS, THIS WEEK IS THE 195 00:10:08,065 --> 00:10:09,567 CONSERVATIVE POLITICAL ACTION CONFERENCE, OR CPAC. 196 00:10:09,650 --> 00:10:11,861 IT'S A WHO'S WHO OF "WHO NEEDS THAT MANY GUNS IN THEIR REC 197 00:10:11,944 --> 00:10:15,406 ROOM?" OF COURSE, WITH ALL THE CRISES 198 00:10:15,489 --> 00:10:19,910 FACING OUR NATION, CONSERVATIVES ARE FOCUSING ON THE MOST 199 00:10:19,994 --> 00:10:23,497 PRESSING ISSUE OF ALL: FASCISTS BEING KICKED OFF OF TWITTER. 200 00:10:23,581 --> 00:10:25,458 THIS YEAR'S THEME IS "AMERICA UNCANCELED." 201 00:10:25,541 --> 00:10:26,584 I DIDN'T KNOW AMERICA WAS CANCELED! 202 00:10:26,667 --> 00:10:27,460 ALTHOUGH, I'M NOT SURPRISED. 203 00:10:27,543 --> 00:10:31,922 THE LAST SEASON WAS PRETTY UNBELIEVABLE. 204 00:10:32,006 --> 00:10:34,216 A PANDEMIC AND NAZIS? 205 00:10:34,300 --> 00:10:35,968 OKAY, PICK ONE. 206 00:10:36,052 --> 00:10:39,930 WE'VE JUMPED THE SHARK. 207 00:10:40,014 --> 00:10:42,099 OOOH, NAZI SHARKS. 208 00:10:42,183 --> 00:10:43,934 STILL, BETTER THAN LAST YEAR'S CPAC THEME: "GIVING THE FLAG THE 209 00:10:44,018 --> 00:10:45,728 CLAP." 210 00:10:45,811 --> 00:10:48,022 ACCORDING-- REALLY, REALLY? 211 00:10:48,105 --> 00:10:50,566 YOU THINK I'M AFRAID OF OFFENDING THE FLAG? 212 00:10:50,649 --> 00:10:54,737 IS THAT-- OKAY. 213 00:10:54,820 --> 00:10:55,905 ACCORDING TO CPAC-- I JUST HAVE TO CHECK. 214 00:10:55,988 --> 00:10:58,616 WHEN YOU TURN YOUR BACK ON ME AND WALK AWAY I HAVE TO MAKE 215 00:10:58,699 --> 00:11:04,038 SURE THERE'S A REASON FOR YOU REMOVING YOURSELF FROM THE ROOM. 216 00:11:04,121 --> 00:11:05,373 ACCORDING TO CPAC, IT'S TIME TO STAND UP FOR AMERICANS WHOSE 217 00:11:05,456 --> 00:11:07,458 VIEWS HAVE GOTTEN THEM "CANCELED." 218 00:11:07,541 --> 00:11:10,294 WHICH IS WHY THEY KICKED THINGS OFF BY CANCELING AN APPEARANCE 219 00:11:10,378 --> 00:11:12,046 FROM ONE OF THEIR PANELISTS FOR A HISTORY OF MAKING ANTI-SEMITIC 220 00:11:12,129 --> 00:11:13,631 CLAIMS. 221 00:11:13,714 --> 00:11:16,050 GOOD-- CONSERVATIVES DON'T WANT TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH ANYONE 222 00:11:16,133 --> 00:11:18,469 LIKE THAT. 223 00:11:18,552 --> 00:11:22,932 IT COULD SULLY THE GOOD NAME OF THE MOB WITH ALUMINUM BATS WHO 224 00:11:23,015 --> 00:11:24,141 TRIED TO MURDER MIKE PENCE. 225 00:11:24,225 --> 00:11:27,103 THE CANCELED MAN IN QUESTION IS A RAPPER NAMED YOUNG PHARAOH, 226 00:11:27,186 --> 00:11:30,147 WHO WAS PULLED FROM THE LINEUP AFTER JOURNALISTS POINTED OUT 227 00:11:30,231 --> 00:11:32,108 HIS RECORD OF PUBLICLY REJECTING THE EXISTENCE OF 228 00:11:32,191 --> 00:11:34,777 JUDAISM OUTRIGHT. 229 00:11:34,860 --> 00:11:38,280 OKAY, PRETTY BOLD STANCE TO REJECT THE EXISTENCE OF THE 230 00:11:38,364 --> 00:11:40,074 WORLD'S OLDEST MONOTHEISTIC RELIGION. 231 00:11:40,157 --> 00:11:46,455 THEY'VE BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE, AND THEY WRITE IT ALL DOWN! 232 00:11:46,539 --> 00:11:47,623 IT'S KIND OF THEIR THING. 233 00:11:47,706 --> 00:11:48,249 YOU KNOW WHO COULD TELL YOUNG PHARAOH THAT JUDAISM EXISTS? 234 00:11:48,332 --> 00:11:49,125 OLD PHARAOH! 235 00:11:49,208 --> 00:11:50,626 THERE'S A PRETTY FAMOUS OLD BOOK ABOUT IT! 236 00:11:50,709 --> 00:11:54,171 THERE'S EVEN A NEW BOOK ABOUT IT! 237 00:11:54,255 --> 00:11:56,757 CPAC APPARENTLY HADN'T KNOWN ABOUT YOUNG PHARAOH'S HISTORY OF 238 00:11:56,841 --> 00:11:59,677 ANTI-SEMITISM, AND CALLED HIS VIEWS "REPREHENSIBLE," SAYING 239 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,762 THEY HAVE "NO HOME WITH THEIR CONFERENCE." 240 00:12:01,846 --> 00:12:04,598 YES, CONSERVATIVES WOULD NEVER DOUBT THE EXISTENCE OF JEWISH 241 00:12:04,682 --> 00:12:06,767 PEOPLE. 242 00:12:06,851 --> 00:12:20,114 OTHERWISE, WHO'S OPERATING THE SPACE LASER? 243 00:12:20,197 --> 00:12:24,785 SPEAKING OF SPACE, IT'S TIME FOR "SPACE NEWS: MARS EDITION." 244 00:12:24,869 --> 00:12:28,122 IT'S BEEN A BIG WEEK FOR SPACE. 245 00:12:28,205 --> 00:12:30,791 ON THURSDAY, NASA SUCCESSFULLY LANDED THE PERSEVERANCE ROVER ON 246 00:12:30,875 --> 00:12:32,042 MARS. 247 00:12:32,126 --> 00:12:37,339 AND YESTERDAY, THEY DROPPED THE HOT FOOTAGE. 248 00:12:37,423 --> 00:12:39,175 LOOK AT THAT I HAD-DEF! 249 00:12:39,258 --> 00:12:46,515 MAN THE FIRST INTERPLANETARY LANDING IN FULL COLOR! 250 00:12:46,599 --> 00:12:46,932 THE RED AND WHITE PARACHUTE, JUST LIKE THE APOLLO MISSIONS-- 251 00:12:47,016 --> 00:12:47,433 BUT IT'S MARS! 252 00:12:47,516 --> 00:12:49,185 THIS IS SO EXCITING! 253 00:12:49,268 --> 00:12:50,186 IT'S LIKE I'M THERE! 254 00:12:50,269 --> 00:12:52,188 I CAN ALMOST TASTE MATT DAMON'S POOP POTATOES! 255 00:12:52,271 --> 00:12:56,525 AND HERE'S ANOTHER AMAZING SHOT OF THE JET-POWERED SKYCRANE 256 00:12:56,609 --> 00:12:59,195 LOWERING THE ROVER DOWN TO THE SURFACE. 257 00:12:59,278 --> 00:13:00,863 THAT'S AMAZING! 258 00:13:00,946 --> 00:13:03,824 AND YOU KNOW THAT SKYCRANE'S GOING TO HAVE A HELL OF A TIME 259 00:13:03,908 --> 00:13:04,950 PICKING THAT ROVER BACK UP. 260 00:13:05,034 --> 00:13:07,912 EVEN WHEN YOU'RE RIGHT OVER IT, YOU END UP PICKING UP A 261 00:13:07,995 --> 00:13:11,832 KNOCK-OFF BEANIE BABY, OR SOMETHING UPON 262 00:13:11,916 --> 00:13:13,042 IT WASN'T JUST VIDEO. 263 00:13:13,125 --> 00:13:13,876 WE ALSO GOT OUR FIRST LISTEN TO THE SOUND OF MARS FROM NASA'S 264 00:13:13,959 --> 00:13:16,212 OFFICIAL SOUNDCLOUD: >> Stephen: WOW. 265 00:13:24,261 --> 00:13:28,182 WE FINALLY KNOW WHAT IT WOULD SOUND LIKE IF SOMEBODY 266 00:13:28,265 --> 00:13:29,767 BUTT-DIALED YOU FROM MARS. 267 00:13:29,850 --> 00:13:33,229 THIS WAS TRULY AN HISTORIC EVENT. 268 00:13:33,312 --> 00:13:37,399 BUT TODAY, WELL, NOTHING WOULD BE COMPLETE WITHOUT ANOTHER OLD 269 00:13:37,483 --> 00:13:40,194 MAN CRYING. 270 00:13:40,277 --> 00:13:41,237 THIS IS THE MOMENT THAT ALEJANDRO MIGUEL SAN MARTEEN, 271 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,114 THE CHIEF ENGINEER OF FOUR PREVIOUS MARS LANDINGS, 272 00:13:44,198 --> 00:13:48,118 CELEBRATED THE PERSEVERANCE TOUCHING DOWN FROM HIS HOME 273 00:13:48,202 --> 00:13:52,248 OFFICE! 274 00:13:52,331 --> 00:13:52,831 >> YES! 275 00:13:52,915 --> 00:13:56,126 >> DON'T BREAK THE TABLE! 276 00:13:56,210 --> 00:14:00,214 ( LAUGHTER ) >> Stephen: YES, THAT'S A 277 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,561 THING. 278 00:14:13,644 --> 00:14:19,441 AND FROM ONE OLD MAN ON THE EDGE OF TEARS TO ANOTHER: AMERICA IS 279 00:14:19,525 --> 00:14:20,276 SO FRUCKING PROUD. 280 00:14:20,359 --> 00:14:21,527 WE'VE GOT A GREAT SHOW FOR YOU TONIGHT. 281 00:14:21,610 --> 00:14:26,240 MY GUESTS ARE BILLIE EILISH, AND VETERAN JOURNALISTS ANNA PALMER 282 00:14:26,323 --> 00:14:26,615 AND JAKE SHERMAN. 283 00:14:26,699 --> 00:14:29,285 STICK AROUND! 284 00:14:29,368 --> 00:14:33,080 ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪█ç 285 00:14:44,925 --> 00:14:52,683 ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ 286 00:14:52,766 --> 00:14:55,311 >> Stephen: HEY, WELCOME BACK, EVERYBODY. 287 00:14:55,394 --> 00:14:57,146 TO "A LATE SHOW." 288 00:14:57,229 --> 00:14:59,148 LET'S SAY HELLO TO JON BATISTE. 289 00:14:59,231 --> 00:15:00,649 HELLO, JON. 290 00:15:00,733 --> 00:15:01,734 >> Jon: HELLO, STEPHEN. 291 00:15:01,817 --> 00:15:02,818 WHAT'S THE WORD. 292 00:15:02,901 --> 00:15:06,488 >> Stephen: THE WORD IS I'M WORRIED ABOUT TIGER WOODS. 293 00:15:06,572 --> 00:15:08,282 YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT A PHONE THERE. 294 00:15:08,365 --> 00:15:09,491 HAVE YOU HEARD ANYTHING. 295 00:15:09,575 --> 00:15:12,870 WE'RE ABOUT 6:00 RIGHT NOW, AND LAST I HEARD HE WAS STILL IN 296 00:15:12,953 --> 00:15:13,412 SURGERY. 297 00:15:13,495 --> 00:15:14,872 >> Jon: YUP, I HEARD. 298 00:15:14,955 --> 00:15:15,998 I HEARD. 299 00:15:16,081 --> 00:15:17,166 AND IT'S TERRIBLE NEWS. 300 00:15:17,249 --> 00:15:18,334 IT'S THE WORST NEWS. 301 00:15:18,417 --> 00:15:22,880 SOMEBODY LIKE HIM WHO HAS INSPIRED SO MANY, AND GIVEN HIS 302 00:15:22,963 --> 00:15:25,549 LIFE TO GOLF, YOU KNOW. 303 00:15:25,633 --> 00:15:28,677 WE HOPE THAT HE CAN PULL THROUGH, BECAUSE HE'S INSPIRED 304 00:15:28,761 --> 00:15:32,181 US, AND WE NEED TO SEND OUR GOOD ENERGY TO HIM RIGHT NOW. 305 00:15:32,264 --> 00:15:34,892 >> Stephen: AS OF THE STAEMENT RIGHT NOW, THE REPORTS 306 00:15:34,975 --> 00:15:36,977 ARE IT'S NOT LIFE THREATENING. 307 00:15:37,061 --> 00:15:38,103 >> Jon: OKAY. 308 00:15:38,187 --> 00:15:41,732 >> Stephen: BUT WHO KNOWS WHAT IT DOES TO THE REST OF HIS 309 00:15:41,815 --> 00:15:43,025 CAREER, TOO. 310 00:15:43,108 --> 00:15:45,402 WHILE HE'S AT THE END OF IT, TWO YEARS AGO, THE AMAZING COMEBACK 311 00:15:45,486 --> 00:15:48,030 WINNING THE MASTER'S, YOU KNOW-- >> Jon: THAT WAS INSPIRING TO 312 00:15:48,113 --> 00:15:49,198 SEE. 313 00:15:49,281 --> 00:15:51,867 I REMEMBER WATCHING HIM WHEN I WAS, LIKE, FIVE YEARS OLD, AND 314 00:15:51,950 --> 00:15:55,579 HE WAS COMING UP AND JUST WHAT HE HAS REPRESENT GLD YEAH, BACK 315 00:15:55,663 --> 00:16:00,042 IN '97, WHEN HE WON THE MASTER'S. 316 00:16:00,125 --> 00:16:02,169 YOUNGEST PERSON EVER, LARGEST MARGIN TO EVER WIN IT BY. 317 00:16:02,252 --> 00:16:03,212 I WAS NOT FIVE. 318 00:16:03,295 --> 00:16:05,923 I WAS A LITTLE OLDER THAN FIVE WHEN I WATCHED THAT. 319 00:16:06,006 --> 00:16:09,343 ( LAUGHTER ) BUT IN THAT AREA. 320 00:16:09,426 --> 00:16:10,260 IT WAS INTJERZ. 321 00:16:10,344 --> 00:16:11,303 >> Jon: AROUND THERE. 322 00:16:11,387 --> 00:16:13,972 >> Stephen: THERE WAS A 5, THERE WAS A 5 IN THERE. 323 00:16:14,056 --> 00:16:16,183 A MULTIPLE OF FIVE. 324 00:16:16,266 --> 00:16:19,311 >> Jon: IT WAS JUST AS GOOD, I BET, THOUGH. 325 00:16:19,395 --> 00:16:21,647 >> Stephen: IT WAS PRETTY EXCITING. 326 00:16:21,730 --> 00:16:24,108 I REMEMBER EVIE GOING, "YOU DON'T WATCH SPORTS." 327 00:16:24,191 --> 00:16:25,943 I SAID, "SHHH! 328 00:16:26,026 --> 00:16:29,655 I CAN'T BELIEVE WHAT I'M WATCHING." 329 00:16:29,738 --> 00:16:32,157 WE WISH HIM THE BEST AND, OF COURSE, THE BEST FOR HIS FAMILY. 330 00:16:32,241 --> 00:16:33,367 >> Jon: ABSOLUTELY. 331 00:16:33,450 --> 00:16:34,118 >> Stephen: JON BATISTE, DO YOU HAVE ANY MUSIC THAT WANTS TO 332 00:16:34,201 --> 00:16:37,454 COME OUT OF YOU RIGHT NOW? 333 00:16:37,538 --> 00:16:43,085 >> Jon: LET'S SEE, I WAS THINKING... 334 00:16:43,168 --> 00:16:54,012 ♪ ♪ ♪ >> Stephen: JON BATISTE, 335 00:16:54,096 --> 00:16:54,430 EVERYBODY. 336 00:16:54,513 --> 00:16:54,930 THANK YOU, JON. 337 00:16:55,013 --> 00:16:57,558 >> Jon: YES, INDEED. 338 00:16:57,641 --> 00:16:59,143 >> Stephen: MY FIRST GUEST TONIGHT IS A MUSICIAN WHO MADE 339 00:16:59,226 --> 00:17:01,979 HISTORY LAST YEAR WHEN SHE WON FIVE GRAMMY AWARDS, INCLUDING 340 00:17:02,062 --> 00:17:07,276 BEST NEW ARTIST AND ALBUM OF THE YEAR, AT THE AGE OF 18. 341 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:11,947 PLEASE WELCOME TO "A LATE SHOW," BILLIE EILISH. 342 00:17:12,030 --> 00:17:12,406 HI, BILLIE. 343 00:17:12,489 --> 00:17:13,282 >> HI, STEPHEN. 344 00:17:13,365 --> 00:17:14,116 HOW ARE YOU? 345 00:17:14,199 --> 00:17:15,451 >> Stephen: I'M DOING GREAT. 346 00:17:15,534 --> 00:17:17,286 IT'S REALLY NICE TO HAVE YOU ON. 347 00:17:17,369 --> 00:17:20,497 >> IT'S SO GOOD TO BE ON. 348 00:17:20,581 --> 00:17:21,248 I'M GEEKED. 349 00:17:21,331 --> 00:17:21,874 HOW ARE YOU? 350 00:17:21,957 --> 00:17:22,916 >> Stephen: GOOD, I'M GLAD. 351 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,794 I HOPE THAT'S A GOOD THING. 352 00:17:25,878 --> 00:17:28,630 EVERYBODY KNOWS-- EVERYBODY KNOWS WHO HAS BEEN PAYING 353 00:17:28,714 --> 00:17:31,133 ATTENTION IS NOT ONLY ARE YOU A GIFTED ARTIST, BUT YOU SHOT OUT 354 00:17:31,216 --> 00:17:35,971 OF A CANNON A FEW YEARS AGO. 355 00:17:36,054 --> 00:17:39,641 SUDDENLY, YOU'RE-- YOUR LIFE WENT FROM, YOU KNOW, FUN, YOU 356 00:17:39,725 --> 00:17:46,648 KNOW, CONCERTS, TO JUST EXPLODING AND BEING A WORLDWIDE 357 00:17:46,732 --> 00:17:47,399 PHENOMENON. 358 00:17:47,483 --> 00:17:50,486 BUT THEN SUDDENLY COVID COMES IN. 359 00:17:50,569 --> 00:17:53,614 YOU'RE THROW SHOWS IN TO A MASSIVE WORLDWIDE TOUR, AND 360 00:17:53,697 --> 00:17:54,156 EVERYTHING HAS TO GO QUIET. 361 00:17:54,239 --> 00:17:58,160 HOW DID THAT FEEL? 362 00:17:58,243 --> 00:18:00,829 >> IT FELT... 363 00:18:00,913 --> 00:18:02,998 THE SAME AS IT FELT FOR EVERYBODY ELSE. 364 00:18:03,081 --> 00:18:05,542 IT WAS SO WEIRD. 365 00:18:05,626 --> 00:18:08,587 I MEAN, IT WAS WEIRD. 366 00:18:08,670 --> 00:18:11,131 I MEAN, LIKE, NONE OF THE YEAR WENT AT ALL THE WAY I THOUGHT. 367 00:18:11,215 --> 00:18:14,301 AND I DON'T THINK-- LIKE, I REALLY THINK THAT'S FOR 368 00:18:14,384 --> 00:18:14,843 EVERYONE, OBVIOUSLY. 369 00:18:14,927 --> 00:18:16,011 >> Stephen: OF COURSE. 370 00:18:16,095 --> 00:18:20,516 >> I THINK I'M JUST GLAD THAT I HAD THE YEAR BEFORE THAT TO 371 00:18:20,599 --> 00:18:22,309 REALLY HAVE A MOMENT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I JUST-- I JUST THINK 372 00:18:22,392 --> 00:18:25,187 ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT AT THE BEGINNING OF 2020 WERE HAVING A 373 00:18:25,270 --> 00:18:29,650 BIG MOMENT, AND, LIKE, THINGS WERE HAPPENING, AND THINGS WERE 374 00:18:29,733 --> 00:18:32,653 COMING, AND THEN... THAT MAKES ME SO SAD. 375 00:18:32,736 --> 00:18:34,029 SO I FEEL FOR THEM. 376 00:18:34,112 --> 00:18:35,572 BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN HARD FOR EVERYBODY. 377 00:18:35,656 --> 00:18:37,574 IT'S BEEN SO WEIRD. 378 00:18:37,658 --> 00:18:38,367 SO WEIRD. 379 00:18:38,450 --> 00:18:40,327 >> Stephen: YEAH, IT'S BEEN BIZARRE. 380 00:18:40,410 --> 00:18:44,039 IT ALMOST FEELS LIKE WE'RE ALL LIVING UNDER SOME WEIRD SPELL. 381 00:18:44,122 --> 00:18:45,207 >> ( LAUGHS ) 382 00:18:45,290 --> 00:18:46,416 YEAH, IT DOES. 383 00:18:46,500 --> 00:18:48,919 >> Stephen: THE REASON I ASK-- WE'LL GET TO THE DOCUMENTARY IN 384 00:18:49,002 --> 00:18:51,755 JUST A MOMENT-- BUT I KNOW AT TIMES THE PACE YOU HAVE TO LIVE 385 00:18:51,839 --> 00:18:54,258 WHEN THIS IS YOUR TIME TO SHINE AND THIS IS YOUR TIME TO TAKE 386 00:18:54,341 --> 00:18:59,054 ADVANTAGE OF THE AUDIENCE PERCEIVING YOUR ART FOR THE 387 00:18:59,137 --> 00:19:01,181 FIRST TIME AS SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL AND SOMETHING THEY 388 00:19:01,265 --> 00:19:03,183 WANT TO BE PART OF. 389 00:19:03,267 --> 00:19:06,061 BUT IT CAN ALSO BE VERY TAXING. 390 00:19:06,144 --> 00:19:09,064 I MEAN, THIS DOCUMENTARY WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IN A MOMENT, 391 00:19:09,147 --> 00:19:10,566 YOU'RE EXHAUSTED IN A LOT OF THIS. 392 00:19:10,649 --> 00:19:13,110 YOUR ANKLES ARE GOING, YOUR SHINS ARE GOING, YOUR BACK IS 393 00:19:13,193 --> 00:19:14,236 GOING. 394 00:19:14,319 --> 00:19:17,698 AND THEN YOU HAVE THIS ARTIFICIALLY IMPOSED TIME TO BE 395 00:19:17,781 --> 00:19:18,824 QUIET. 396 00:19:18,907 --> 00:19:21,243 IS THERE ANYTHING ABOUT THAT, THAT YOU'RE GRATEFUL FOR? 397 00:19:21,326 --> 00:19:22,578 >> YEAH, TOTALLY. 398 00:19:22,661 --> 00:19:27,082 I MEAN, LISTEN, THE YEAR HAS SUCKED, AND I DON'T-- IF I COULD 399 00:19:27,165 --> 00:19:29,418 GO BACK AND I COULD CHANGE IT, I WOULD. 400 00:19:29,501 --> 00:19:33,255 BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOTTEN MORE TIME OFF THAN 401 00:19:33,338 --> 00:19:38,802 I'VE EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER HAD, AND OF COURSE I THINK THAT GOES 402 00:19:38,886 --> 00:19:39,928 FOR EVERYONE. 403 00:19:40,012 --> 00:19:42,306 BUT THAT WAS TRUE FOR ME AFTER TWO WEEKS OF IT, YOU KNOW. 404 00:19:42,389 --> 00:19:45,767 THAT WAS, LIKE, TWO WEEKS ALREADY AT THE BEGINNING OF 405 00:19:45,851 --> 00:19:49,646 QUARANTINE WAS THE MOST TIME I'D HAD OFF IN, LIKE, FOUR YEARS. 406 00:19:49,730 --> 00:19:52,566 SO-- AND ALSO, I MADE AN ALBUM IN IT. 407 00:19:52,649 --> 00:19:53,442 >> Stephen: OH, GOOD! 408 00:19:53,525 --> 00:19:54,651 >> YEAH, I'VE MADE AN ALBUM. 409 00:19:54,735 --> 00:20:00,282 AND I JUST DON'T THINK I WOULD HAVE MADE THE SAME ALBUM OR EVEN 410 00:20:00,365 --> 00:20:02,784 THE ALBUM AT ALL IF IT WEREN'T FOR COVID. 411 00:20:02,868 --> 00:20:05,996 SO, YOU KNOW, THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S ABOUT COVID AT ALL. 412 00:20:06,079 --> 00:20:08,916 IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE JUST-- WHEN THINGS ARE DIFFERENT 413 00:20:08,999 --> 00:20:10,500 IN YOUR LIFE, YOU'RE DIFFERENT. 414 00:20:10,584 --> 00:20:11,293 IT'S JUST HOW IT IS. 415 00:20:11,376 --> 00:20:13,295 SO I HAVE TO THANK COVID FOR THAT. 416 00:20:13,378 --> 00:20:15,172 AND THAT'S ABOUT IT ( LAUGHS ) 417 00:20:15,255 --> 00:20:16,423 THAT'S ABOUT IT. 418 00:20:16,506 --> 00:20:20,469 >> Stephen: WELL, THE NEW MOVIE IS "BILLIE EILISH: THE 419 00:20:20,552 --> 00:20:22,137 WORLD'S A LITTLE BLURRY." 420 00:20:22,221 --> 00:20:26,266 IT'S A DOCUMENTARY ON APPLE TV+, AND IT COMES OUT THIS FRIDAY. 421 00:20:26,350 --> 00:20:28,310 AND IT'S ABOUT TWO HOURS, 15 MINUTES LONG. 422 00:20:28,393 --> 00:20:31,313 I'VE SEEN AN HOUR AND 45 MINUTES SO FAR. 423 00:20:31,396 --> 00:20:33,148 DON'T TELL ME HOW YOU END. 424 00:20:33,231 --> 00:20:36,318 AND IT'S BY THE GREAT DOCUMENTARY FILMMAKER R.J. 425 00:20:36,401 --> 00:20:37,569 CUTLER. 426 00:20:37,653 --> 00:20:40,405 AND, FIRST OF ALL, I MEAN, I'VE BEEN ON TV A LOT, BUT WHAT'S IT 427 00:20:40,489 --> 00:20:43,659 LIKE TO HAVE A CAMERA LIVING WITH YOU? 428 00:20:43,742 --> 00:20:46,536 WHAT IS THAT EXPERIENCE LIKE? 429 00:20:46,620 --> 00:20:49,665 >> IT'S VERY INVASIVE. 430 00:20:49,748 --> 00:20:55,128 BUT IT'S ALSO FUN BECAUSE THE WAY THAT I PUT IT THE OTHER WAY 431 00:20:55,212 --> 00:20:58,674 WAS, LIKE, YOU KNOW, AS HUMAN BEINGS, I THINK WE ALL TEND TO 432 00:20:58,757 --> 00:21:01,301 FEEL PRETTY IRRELEVANT ALL THE TIME. 433 00:21:01,385 --> 00:21:06,056 AND EVEN THOUGH IT WAS VERY INVASIVE AND A LOT AT SOME 434 00:21:06,139 --> 00:21:13,146 POINTS-- AND SOMETIMES I JUST WAS LIKE, "YOU GOTTA GO--" IT 435 00:21:13,230 --> 00:21:17,651 WAS FUN-- IT WAS FUN TO HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE LITERALLY JUST 436 00:21:17,734 --> 00:21:19,361 THERE TO WATCH YOU LIVE YOUR LIFE. 437 00:21:19,444 --> 00:21:20,278 THERE IS NOTHING LIKE THAT. 438 00:21:20,362 --> 00:21:22,280 THERE IS NOTHING IN LIFE THAT IS LIKE THAT. 439 00:21:22,364 --> 00:21:25,200 SO IT WAS VERY FUN. 440 00:21:25,283 --> 00:21:27,703 AND I KIND OF LOVED IT, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU UPON. 441 00:21:27,786 --> 00:21:31,581 IT WAS A LOT, AT TIMES, AGAIN, BUT IT WAS ALSO FUN. 442 00:21:31,665 --> 00:21:34,876 IT WAS FUN TO BE ABLE TO-- THERE'S A CAMERA THERE. 443 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,211 AND I DON'T KNOW. 444 00:21:36,294 --> 00:21:37,129 IT WAS WEIRD. 445 00:21:37,212 --> 00:21:39,047 IT'S A WEIRD WAY TO LIVE, BUT IT'S ALSO FUN. 446 00:21:39,131 --> 00:21:40,298 AND THEY WERE REALLY RESPECTFUL. 447 00:21:40,382 --> 00:21:43,719 SO THEY WERE VERY MUCH, LIKE, IF I WAS LIKE, "OKAY, I CAN'T DO 448 00:21:43,802 --> 00:21:46,555 THIS RIGHT NOW," THEY WOULD JUST LEAVE, WHICH WAS GREAT. 449 00:21:46,638 --> 00:21:47,723 AND THAT'S SO NEEDED. 450 00:21:47,806 --> 00:21:53,895 >> Stephen: IT'S AN AMAZING FILM, AND IT SHOWS WELL HOW MUCH 451 00:21:53,979 --> 00:21:57,858 YOU AND YOUR FAMILY LOVE EACH OTHER, AND HOW SUPPORTIVE THEY 452 00:21:57,941 --> 00:22:02,195 ARE OF YOU AND YOUR BROTHER, FINNEAS. 453 00:22:02,279 --> 00:22:04,197 YOU'RE WRITING AND YOUR PRODUCING PARTNER. 454 00:22:04,281 --> 00:22:08,326 AND IT ALSO SHOWS YOU AS A COMPLEX AND BEAUTIFUL ARTIST. 455 00:22:08,410 --> 00:22:09,453 >> THANKS. 456 00:22:09,536 --> 00:22:12,789 >> Stephen: IS THERE ANY WAY THAT-- WHO IS ALSO KNOWN FOR 457 00:22:12,873 --> 00:22:14,916 BEING VERY AUTHENTIC, TRYING TO BE HERSELF. 458 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:15,959 >> YEAH. 459 00:22:16,043 --> 00:22:18,545 >> Stephen: HER-- AND BEING VERY TRUE TO YOUR OWN 460 00:22:18,628 --> 00:22:19,504 EXPRESSION. 461 00:22:19,588 --> 00:22:22,549 DOES THE CAMERA CHANGE THE OBSERVED IN ANY WAY? 462 00:22:22,632 --> 00:22:27,429 THERE'S A MAXIM OF PHYSICS, I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND, 463 00:22:27,512 --> 00:22:29,973 OBSERVATION CHANGES WHAT'S BEING OBSERVED. 464 00:22:30,057 --> 00:22:30,766 >> RIGHT. 465 00:22:30,849 --> 00:22:31,475 >> Stephen: HOW DID IT CHANGE YOU? 466 00:22:31,558 --> 00:22:33,477 ARE YOU REALLY YOU IN THIS? 467 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:34,644 >> GOOD QUESTION! 468 00:22:34,728 --> 00:22:37,064 >> Stephen: IT'S WHAT I DO. 469 00:22:37,147 --> 00:22:38,440 >> SO I THINK I AM. 470 00:22:38,523 --> 00:22:43,111 I THINK THAT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO KNOW, THOUGH, AS 471 00:22:43,195 --> 00:22:51,328 A-- AN AUDIENCE MEMORY OF A DOC, THIS DOC, AND EVERY OTHER DOC, 472 00:22:51,411 --> 00:22:54,623 OF BEING VERY CONSCIOUS OF THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT EVERYTHING. 473 00:22:54,706 --> 00:22:59,336 YOU'RE SEEING A SLIVER OF MY LIFE AT THAT TIME, YOU KNOW. 474 00:22:59,419 --> 00:23:01,588 AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE I GREW UP WATCHING DOCUMENTARIES ABOUT 475 00:23:01,671 --> 00:23:04,007 ARTISTS AND ABOUT WHATEVER. 476 00:23:04,091 --> 00:23:06,593 IN MY HEAD WHEN I WAS YOUNGER, I JUST IMMEDIATELY, NATURALLY WAS 477 00:23:06,676 --> 00:23:09,513 LIKE, "OH, NOW I KNOW EVERY SINGLE THING ABOUT THEM. 478 00:23:09,596 --> 00:23:12,474 I KNOW EVERYTHING THEY'VE BEEN THROUGH AND EVERYTHING THEY WERE 479 00:23:12,557 --> 00:23:13,809 GOING THROUGH AND THINKING ABOUT." 480 00:23:13,892 --> 00:23:17,687 AND I THINK YOU TEND TO FEEL LIKE THAT BECAUSE, AS PEOPLE, WE 481 00:23:17,771 --> 00:23:21,817 GO, "WELL, WHAT I KNOW IS ALL THERE IS TO KNOW." 482 00:23:21,900 --> 00:23:23,443 ( LAUGHS ) NATURALLY. 483 00:23:23,527 --> 00:23:25,987 SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT IT'S NOT-- 484 00:23:26,071 --> 00:23:27,322 IT'S NOT ALL THAT WAS GOING ON. 485 00:23:27,405 --> 00:23:30,200 THERE'S A TON THAT ISN'T IN THERE. 486 00:23:30,283 --> 00:23:32,494 BUT I-- IT'S PRETTY MUCH ME. 487 00:23:32,577 --> 00:23:35,747 AND IT'S KIND OF A HUGE BUMMER BECAUSE I WAS SUPER ANNOYING 488 00:23:35,831 --> 00:23:36,289 THEN. 489 00:23:36,373 --> 00:23:36,873 YOU KNOW, IT'S ROUGH. 490 00:23:36,957 --> 00:23:39,292 IT'S HARD FOR ME TO WATCH. 491 00:23:39,376 --> 00:23:41,044 >> Stephen: IT'S VERY-- IT'S FEARLESS. 492 00:23:41,128 --> 00:23:45,132 IT'S VERY GENEROUS OF YOU TO SHARE YOUR LIFE, AND IT'S REALLY 493 00:23:45,215 --> 00:23:46,299 INSTRUCTIVE. 494 00:23:46,383 --> 00:23:47,384 BECAUSE AS I SAID, YOU'RE A COMPLEX AND BEAUTIFUL AYERST, 495 00:23:47,467 --> 00:23:51,471 AND YOU SEE THE COMPLEXITY AND HOW AUTHENTIC YOU ARE TO 496 00:23:51,555 --> 00:23:52,848 YOURSELF IN WATCHING THIS DOCUMENTARY. 497 00:23:52,931 --> 00:23:54,057 AND IT PAID OFF. 498 00:23:54,141 --> 00:23:57,686 TURNS OUT YOU BET ON YOURSELF, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE AGREED THAT 499 00:23:57,769 --> 00:24:01,857 THEY WANTED TO HEAR YOUR MUSIC, AND YOU'VE HAD AN AMAZING, 500 00:24:01,940 --> 00:24:03,024 AMAZING COUPLE OF YEARS. 501 00:24:03,108 --> 00:24:03,900 AND THERE'S A CLIP HERE I WOULDN'T MIND YOU SETTING UP, IF 502 00:24:03,984 --> 00:24:06,194 YOU DON'T MIND, FROM THE FILM. 503 00:24:06,278 --> 00:24:07,571 WHAT ARE YOU FINDING OUT IN THIS MOMENT? 504 00:24:07,654 --> 00:24:11,825 >> THIS IS ME DEAD ASLEEP BEING WOKEN UP BY MY FAMILY TO TALK 505 00:24:11,908 --> 00:24:15,370 ABOUT GRAMMY NOMINATIONS. 506 00:24:15,453 --> 00:24:18,206 >> Stephen: JIM. 507 00:24:18,290 --> 00:24:21,543 >> NOMINATIONS. 508 00:24:21,626 --> 00:24:24,045 RECORD OF THE YEAR. 509 00:24:24,129 --> 00:24:25,172 "BAD GUY." 510 00:24:25,255 --> 00:24:27,841 ALBUM OF THE YEAR. 511 00:24:27,924 --> 00:24:32,053 WHAT ALBUM WOULD THAT BE? 512 00:24:32,137 --> 00:24:35,682 "WHEN WE ALL FALL ASLEEP, WHERE DO WE GO." 513 00:24:35,765 --> 00:24:37,601 SONG OF THE YEAR, "BAD GUY." 514 00:24:37,684 --> 00:24:41,521 BEST NEW ARTIST. 515 00:24:41,605 --> 00:24:42,647 >> WHY DO YOU SOUND LIKE THAT? 516 00:24:42,731 --> 00:24:50,238 >> BEST POP SOLO PERFORMANCE, AND BEST POP VOCAL ALBUM. 517 00:24:50,322 --> 00:24:53,033 AND PRODUCER OF THE YEAR WOULD BE OUR BROTHER. 518 00:24:53,116 --> 00:24:54,201 >> OH, HE GOT IT? 519 00:24:54,284 --> 00:24:54,576 >> YEAH. 520 00:24:54,659 --> 00:24:57,078 >> YAY! 521 00:24:57,162 --> 00:24:58,914 HE WAS SO ANXIOUS ABOUT THAT. 522 00:24:58,997 --> 00:25:02,709 ( LAUGHTER ) >> Stephen: THAT'S GREAT. 523 00:25:02,792 --> 00:25:03,793 THAT'S GREAT! 524 00:25:03,877 --> 00:25:07,923 AND AS SOMEONE WHO HAS HAD TEENAGED CHILDREN, HAVING TO 525 00:25:08,006 --> 00:25:11,635 WAKE THEM UP FOR IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENTS, I THINK THAT'S 526 00:25:11,718 --> 00:25:14,262 100% AUTHENTIC ( LAUGHS ) 527 00:25:14,346 --> 00:25:14,846 >> OH, GOD. 528 00:25:14,930 --> 00:25:16,264 WHAT A CRAZY DAY THAT WAS. 529 00:25:16,348 --> 00:25:20,560 AND IT'S FUNNY LISTENING TO THAT NOW AND SEEING THAT NOW, BECAUSE 530 00:25:20,644 --> 00:25:24,272 I ONLY CARED ABOUT FINNEAS' NOMINATIONS. 531 00:25:24,356 --> 00:25:28,401 AS SOON AS SHE WAS LIKE, "FINNEAS GOT NOMINATED," I WAS 532 00:25:28,485 --> 00:25:30,654 LIKE, "THAT'S SO COOL," BECAUSE I WAS SO HAPPY FOR HIM. 533 00:25:30,737 --> 00:25:35,116 >> Stephen: NOT ONLY NOMINATED BUT YOU GUYS SWEPT RIGHT THERE. 534 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,953 THAT'S YOU AND YOUR BROTHER, FINNEAS, WITH YOUR 11 GRAMMYS 535 00:25:38,036 --> 00:25:39,746 BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU. 536 00:25:39,829 --> 00:25:40,956 CONGRATULATIONS. 537 00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:42,582 WE HAVE TO TAKE A QUICK BREAK, BUT WHEN WE COME BACK, I WILL 538 00:25:42,666 --> 00:25:47,754 ASK BILLIE HOW YOU DEAL WITH WORLDWIDE FANDOM AND STILL STAY 539 00:25:47,837 --> 00:25:48,296 YOURSELF. 540 00:25:48,380 --> 00:25:50,674 ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ 541 00:26:00,517 --> 00:26:03,103 ♪ ♪ ♪ >> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY. 542 00:26:03,186 --> 00:26:06,773 WE'RE BACK WITH SUPER STAR BILLIE EILISH. 543 00:26:06,856 --> 00:26:10,610 YOU-- YOU SAY SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL ABOUT YOUR FANS, YOU 544 00:26:10,694 --> 00:26:14,447 SAY YOU DON'T THINK OF THEM AS YOUR FANS. 545 00:26:14,531 --> 00:26:15,323 THEY'RE A PART OF YOU. 546 00:26:15,407 --> 00:26:16,491 >> YEAH. 547 00:26:16,574 --> 00:26:19,828 >> Stephen: BUT THEY ALSO-- AND YOU'RE VERY AUTHENTIC WITH 548 00:26:19,911 --> 00:26:20,412 THEM. 549 00:26:20,495 --> 00:26:22,622 YOU WANT TO GIVE TO THEM. 550 00:26:22,706 --> 00:26:26,126 DO YOU EVER-- DO YOU EVER HAVE TROUBLE GIVING THEM EVERYTHING 551 00:26:26,209 --> 00:26:27,210 THAT THEY MIGHT WANT FROM YOU? 552 00:26:27,294 --> 00:26:28,628 >> ALL THE TIME. 553 00:26:28,712 --> 00:26:30,505 ALL THE TIME. 554 00:26:30,588 --> 00:26:33,800 I MEAN, IT'S HALF THE TIME THAT I FEEL LIKE I NEED TO GIVE THEM 555 00:26:33,883 --> 00:26:37,721 MORE, AND HALF THE TIME I FEEL LIKE I'VE GIVEN TOO MUCH. 556 00:26:37,804 --> 00:26:43,727 AND IT'S A-- IT'S A FUNNY BALANCE BECAUSE IT'S-- YOU KNOW, 557 00:26:43,810 --> 00:26:45,812 SINCE THE BEGINNING I'VE WANTED TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE 558 00:26:45,895 --> 00:26:49,316 FANS THAT I WOULD HAVE WANTED AS A FAN. 559 00:26:49,399 --> 00:26:50,483 LIKE, THAT WAS MY GOAL. 560 00:26:50,567 --> 00:26:53,570 I WANTED TO BE THE ARTIST THAT I WOULD WANT TO BE A FAN OF. 561 00:26:53,653 --> 00:26:59,534 YOU CAN'T HAVE A BAD MOMENT, LIKE DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU'RE 562 00:26:59,617 --> 00:27:00,702 FEELING OR THINKING OR WHAT'S GOING ON, WHAT YOU JUST WENT 563 00:27:00,785 --> 00:27:04,331 THROUGH OR ANYTHING AT ALL. 564 00:27:04,414 --> 00:27:04,706 LIKE -- >> Stephen: BECAUSE IT'S THEIR 565 00:27:04,789 --> 00:27:05,248 BEST MOMENT. 566 00:27:05,332 --> 00:27:07,876 >> IT'S THEIR-- EXACTLY. 567 00:27:07,959 --> 00:27:10,670 IT'S THEIR BEST MOMENT, AND THAT'S THE THING OF, LIKE YOU 568 00:27:10,754 --> 00:27:13,256 KNOW, I FIND MYSELF BEING LIKE, "OH, MY GOD! 569 00:27:13,340 --> 00:27:16,509 I DON'T WANT TO TAKE A PICTURE! 570 00:27:16,593 --> 00:27:21,389 I DON'T WANT TO--" IN MY HEAD I'M THINKING THAT. 571 00:27:21,473 --> 00:27:22,515 I'M LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT? 572 00:27:22,599 --> 00:27:25,685 YOU KNOW HOW MINOR THIS IS FOR ME TO DO, TO MAKE SOMEBODY 573 00:27:25,769 --> 00:27:26,895 REALLY HAPPY? 574 00:27:26,978 --> 00:27:28,104 YOU FORGET THAT. 575 00:27:28,188 --> 00:27:32,192 BUT YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THAT THAT MOMENT MEANS SO MUCH 576 00:27:32,275 --> 00:27:33,360 TO THOSE PEOPLE. 577 00:27:33,443 --> 00:27:35,445 THE SMALLEST THING CAN MEAN THE BIGGEST THING. 578 00:27:35,528 --> 00:27:38,656 AND THAT GOES WITH EVERYTHING IN LIFE, LIKE, LITERALLY 579 00:27:38,740 --> 00:27:39,741 EVERYTHING. 580 00:27:39,824 --> 00:27:41,409 YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, HOW IT'S AFFECTING 581 00:27:41,493 --> 00:27:42,577 PEOPLE. 582 00:27:42,660 --> 00:27:44,245 YOU CAN SAY THE LITTLEST THING AND NOT REMEMBER YOU SAID IT, 583 00:27:44,329 --> 00:27:46,581 AND IT COULD RUIN SOMEBODY'S LIFE. 584 00:27:46,664 --> 00:27:49,292 OR THE OTHER WAY AROUND, YOU COULD SAY ONE COMPLIMENT, AND IT 585 00:27:49,376 --> 00:27:51,711 WAS JUST SOMETHING YOU THOUGHT, AND IT MAKES SOMEBODY FEEL 586 00:27:51,795 --> 00:27:54,381 COMPLETELY DIFFERENT AND BETTER ABOUT THEMSELVES. 587 00:27:54,464 --> 00:27:57,717 AND IT'S JUST LIKE WE FORGET WHAT WE DO REALLY AFFECTS OTHER 588 00:27:57,801 --> 00:28:01,096 PEOPLE, IN VERY LARGE WAYS. 589 00:28:01,179 --> 00:28:06,267 AND SO IT'S KIND OF A TOUGH BATTLE OF, LIKE, I AM FEELING 590 00:28:06,351 --> 00:28:09,646 REALLY, REALLY, REALLY HORRIBLE, AND I WANT TO BE SCREAMING, AND 591 00:28:09,729 --> 00:28:13,983 I CAN'T BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THEM TO HAVE A BAD EXPERIENCE, 592 00:28:14,067 --> 00:28:17,112 AND I DON'T WANT THEM TO HAVE A BAD MOMENT, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, 593 00:28:17,195 --> 00:28:18,279 THEY THINK ABOUT IT. 594 00:28:18,363 --> 00:28:22,325 THAT-- THAT-- THE IDEA THAT SOMEBODY COULD MEET ME AND HAVE 595 00:28:22,409 --> 00:28:27,247 A BAD EXPERIENCE█ç MAKES ME WANT TO JUMP OFF A CLIFF, LIKE, 596 00:28:27,330 --> 00:28:28,456 SERIOUSLY. 597 00:28:28,540 --> 00:28:32,127 I WANT EVERYONE THAT I COME IN CONTACT WITH TO FEEL COMPLETELY 598 00:28:32,210 --> 00:28:35,046 JUST THE HIGHEST HIGH THAT THEY COULD POSSIBLY FEEL. 599 00:28:35,130 --> 00:28:39,467 AND IF ANYBODY HASN'T FELT THAT, I HATE THAT, AND I'M SURE IT'S 600 00:28:39,551 --> 00:28:42,137 BECAUSE I WAS, YOU KNOW, GOING THROUGH SOMETHING. 601 00:28:42,220 --> 00:28:42,846 >> Stephen: BECAUSE YOU'RE HUMAN. 602 00:28:42,929 --> 00:28:43,596 BECAUSE YOU'RE HUMAN. 603 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:44,431 >> YEAH, YEAH. 604 00:28:44,514 --> 00:28:46,641 >> Stephen: IT'S TOUGH BEING A MORTAL. 605 00:28:46,724 --> 00:28:48,768 BUT YOU'VE ALSO-- YOU KNOW, YOU ALSO HAVE BEEN THAT FAN. 606 00:28:48,852 --> 00:28:53,314 ONE OF THE GREAT MOMENTS IN IT IS YOU MEETING JUSTIN BIEBER. 607 00:28:53,398 --> 00:28:53,982 >> YUP! 608 00:28:54,065 --> 00:28:56,651 >> Stephen: IT'S EXTRAORDINARY. 609 00:28:56,734 --> 00:28:59,279 BECAUSE YOU TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH YOU LOVE HIM, ESPECIALLY WHEN 610 00:28:59,362 --> 00:29:01,156 YOU WERE YOUNGER, WHEN YOU WERE, LIKE, 12. 611 00:29:01,239 --> 00:29:04,617 WHEN THAT MOMENT COMES, FOR THE AUDIENCE, WE SEE EXACTLY YOU 612 00:29:04,701 --> 00:29:06,995 HAVING THAT EXPERIENCE THAT YOUR FANS ARE HAVING WITH YOU. 613 00:29:07,078 --> 00:29:10,039 IT'S A BEAUTIFUL CIRCLE. 614 00:29:10,123 --> 00:29:12,000 WHAT WAS THAT LIKE FOR YOU? 615 00:29:12,083 --> 00:29:12,876 >> IT WAS INSANE. 616 00:29:12,959 --> 00:29:15,211 I CAN'T EVEN TELL YOU. 617 00:29:15,295 --> 00:29:16,671 I MEAN... 618 00:29:16,754 --> 00:29:18,006 I DON'T KNOW. 619 00:29:18,089 --> 00:29:25,013 I CAN'T-- I CAN'T EVEN-- I CAN'T EVEN BEGIN TO THINK ABOUT ME AT 620 00:29:25,096 --> 00:29:30,143 12 HEARING WHAT MY LIFE IS NOW. 621 00:29:30,226 --> 00:29:33,563 I MEAN, I CAN'T-- I CAN'T EVEN-- I CAN'T EVEN-- 622 00:29:33,646 --> 00:29:36,649 ( LAUGHS ) I CAN'T EVEN FATHOM IT. 623 00:29:36,733 --> 00:29:40,195 I, LIKE, WISH-- I WISH THAT, LIKE, SOME SPIRIT COULD HAVE 624 00:29:40,278 --> 00:29:43,865 COME DOWN AND BEEN LIKE, "BILLIE, GUESS WHAT'S ABOUT TO 625 00:29:43,948 --> 00:29:47,410 HAPPEN TO YOU IN A FEW YEARS?" BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THEN IT 626 00:29:47,494 --> 00:29:49,329 WOULD HAVE MESSED EVERYTHING UP. 627 00:29:49,412 --> 00:29:50,330 I WOULD HAVE BEEN FLIPPING OUT. 628 00:29:50,413 --> 00:29:51,706 YEAH, I DON'T UPON. 629 00:29:51,789 --> 00:29:52,874 IT WAS UNBELIEVABLE. 630 00:29:52,957 --> 00:29:57,712 I DON'T KNOW-- YOU KNOW, NOBODY GETS TO MEET THEIR IDOLS, 631 00:29:57,795 --> 00:30:00,548 REALLY, AND I NEVER WOULD HAVE THOUGHT I WOULD HAVE GOTTEN TO. 632 00:30:00,632 --> 00:30:02,592 AND I'VE GOTTEN TO DO MUCH MORE THAN THAT. 633 00:30:02,675 --> 00:30:04,177 AND IT'S COMPLETELY SURREAL. 634 00:30:04,260 --> 00:30:06,596 AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT AT ALL. 635 00:30:06,679 --> 00:30:08,014 >> Stephen: I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU-- AND FORGIVE 636 00:30:08,097 --> 00:30:11,893 ME IF THIS IS JUST ME NOT KNOWING ENOUGH OF YOUR WORK. 637 00:30:11,976 --> 00:30:13,895 BUT I'VE LISTENED -O YOUR STUFF IN THE PAST, AND I'VE LISTENED 638 00:30:13,978 --> 00:30:20,735 TO A LOT LEADING UP TO THIS INTERVIEW, AND, OBVIOUSLY, THAT 639 00:30:20,818 --> 00:30:24,113 YOU█ç SOUND LIKE IF YOU WANTED TO-- YOU HAVE A BEAUTIFUL 640 00:30:24,197 --> 00:30:27,408 VOICE-- YOU SOUND LIKE IF YOU WANTED TO, YOU COULD BURN THE 641 00:30:27,492 --> 00:30:28,576 ROOM DOWN. 642 00:30:28,660 --> 00:30:30,828 YOU COULD TURN THE POWER SWITCH, AND BLOW SOME WINDOWS OUT. 643 00:30:30,912 --> 00:30:33,831 BUT INSTEAD OF BURNING IT DOWN, YOU SMOLDER THE ROOM. 644 00:30:33,915 --> 00:30:39,087 LIKE, YOU'RE SETTING FIRES EVERYWHERE, BUT IT'S NOT A FLAME 645 00:30:39,170 --> 00:30:40,171 THROWER. 646 00:30:40,255 --> 00:30:43,216 ARE YOU EVER-- ARE YOU EVER GOING TO BELT FOR US, JUST 647 00:30:43,299 --> 00:30:44,467 ABSOLUTELY SHATTER SOME GLASS? 648 00:30:44,551 --> 00:30:47,095 ( LAUGHS ) >> THERE'S A COUPLE OF MOMENTS. 649 00:30:47,178 --> 00:30:48,263 >> Stephen: OKAY. 650 00:30:48,346 --> 00:30:51,724 >> A COUPLE MOMENTS ON THIS ALBUM WHERE I PULL SOME TRICKS 651 00:30:51,808 --> 00:30:52,183 OUT. 652 00:30:52,267 --> 00:30:53,393 >> Stephen: OKAY. 653 00:30:53,476 --> 00:30:57,063 >> YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY JUST ABOUT WHAT I FEEL LIKE SOUNDS 654 00:30:57,146 --> 00:30:57,689 GOOD, YOU KNOW. 655 00:30:57,772 --> 00:30:59,774 IT'S NOT LIKE I CAN'T DO IT. 656 00:30:59,857 --> 00:31:02,777 I JUST-- I JUST -- >> Stephen: CLEARLY, YOU CAN 657 00:31:02,860 --> 00:31:03,945 DO IT. 658 00:31:04,028 --> 00:31:06,573 I'M JUST WONDERING WHEN-- >> YEAH, NO, YOU'LL GET-- YOU'LL 659 00:31:06,656 --> 00:31:07,407 GET A LITTLE BIT. 660 00:31:07,490 --> 00:31:08,283 IT WILL COME. 661 00:31:08,366 --> 00:31:10,201 >> Stephen: ALL RIGHT, GOOD. 662 00:31:10,285 --> 00:31:12,787 WELL, IT'S LOVELY TALKING TO YOU. 663 00:31:12,870 --> 00:31:13,955 THANKS SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. 664 00:31:14,038 --> 00:31:16,583 AND, LISTEN, WHEN THE ALBUM COMES OUT, I HOPE YOU'LL COME 665 00:31:16,666 --> 00:31:21,629 BACK AND PERFORM LIVE, I HOPE IN FRONT OF THE AUDIENCE AT THE ED 666 00:31:21,713 --> 00:31:23,089 SULLIVAN THEATER BECAUSE-- ANY DAY NOW, RIGHT? 667 00:31:23,172 --> 00:31:24,215 >> ANY DAY. 668 00:31:24,299 --> 00:31:26,801 >> Stephen: ANY DAY NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE VACCINE. 669 00:31:26,884 --> 00:31:27,468 >> YES! 670 00:31:27,552 --> 00:31:28,928 OH, MY GOD, I WOULD LOVE TO. 671 00:31:29,012 --> 00:31:30,096 I WOULD LOVE TO. 672 00:31:30,179 --> 00:31:33,308 >> Stephen: THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 673 00:31:33,391 --> 00:31:36,811 BILLIE, THANK YOU AGAIN. 674 00:31:36,894 --> 00:31:37,979 "BILLIE EILISH: THE WORLD'S A LITTLE BLURRY" WILL OPEN IN 675 00:31:38,062 --> 00:31:41,316 SELECT THEATERS AND PREMIERE GLOBALLY ON APPLE TV+ ON FRIDAY. 676 00:31:41,399 --> 00:31:42,442 THANKS, BILLIE. 677 00:31:42,525 --> 00:31:43,067 WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH JOURNALISTS ANNA PALMER AND JAKE 678 00:31:43,151 --> 00:31:45,445 SHERMAN. 679 00:31:45,737 --> 00:31:48,531 ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ 680 00:31:53,786 --> 00:32:04,505 ♪ ♪ ♪ >> Stephen: HELLO, AND WELCOME 681 00:32:04,589 --> 00:32:05,715 BACK. 682 00:32:05,798 --> 00:32:06,883 MY NEXT GUESTS ARE JOURNALISTS WHO HAVE BEEN COVERING NATIONAL 683 00:32:06,966 --> 00:32:08,009 POLITICS FOR OVER A DECADE. 684 00:32:08,092 --> 00:32:10,887 NOW THEY'RE CO-FOUNDERS OF "PUNCHBOWL NEWS" AND HOSTS OF 685 00:32:10,970 --> 00:32:12,055 "THE DAILY PUNCH" PODCAST. 686 00:32:12,138 --> 00:32:15,141 PLEASE WELCOME BACK TO "A LATE SHOW," ANNA PALMER AND JAKE 687 00:32:15,224 --> 00:32:16,809 SHERMAN. 688 00:32:16,893 --> 00:32:19,187 ANNA, JAKE, THANKS FOR BEING HERE. 689 00:32:19,270 --> 00:32:20,438 >> THANKS FOR HAVING US. 690 00:32:20,521 --> 00:32:23,775 >> Stephen: BEFORE WE GET INTO ANYTHING ELSE, YOU BOTH REPORTED 691 00:32:23,858 --> 00:32:25,526 ON CONGRESS FOR OVER A DECADE. 692 00:32:25,610 --> 00:32:29,489 I WANT TO ASK YOU-- I'VE HEARD THAT'S KIND OF A CRAZY BEAT, 693 00:32:29,572 --> 00:32:36,079 THAT THAT'S LIKE A SEVEN-DAYS-A WEEK, 365 DAYS A YEAR. 694 00:32:36,162 --> 00:32:38,498 YOU'RE ESSENTIALLY ALWAYS WORKING. 695 00:32:38,581 --> 00:32:39,040 IS THAT TRUE? 696 00:32:39,123 --> 00:32:39,540 >> IT IS, UNFORTUNATELY. 697 00:32:39,624 --> 00:32:40,750 >> YES. 698 00:32:40,833 --> 00:32:43,169 >> Stephen: AND YOU-- AND YOU HAVE ESSENTIALLY NO SOCIAL LIFE 699 00:32:43,252 --> 00:32:46,172 OUTSIDE OF THE JOB BECAUSE EVERY TIME YOU HAVE TIME TO GO OUT FOR 700 00:32:46,255 --> 00:32:48,257 DRINKS, YOU HAVE TO GO OUT WITH SOMEBODY WHO MIGHT BE A SOURCE 701 00:32:48,341 --> 00:32:49,717 FOR YOU ON CAPITOL HILL. 702 00:32:49,801 --> 00:32:52,220 IS THAT TRUE? 703 00:32:52,303 --> 00:32:54,055 >> IT'S NOT UNTRUE. 704 00:32:54,138 --> 00:32:55,098 ( LAUGHTER ) REPUBLICAN. 705 00:32:55,181 --> 00:32:58,601 >> Stephen: YOU'RE NOT UNDER OATH. 706 00:32:58,685 --> 00:32:59,394 IT'S OKAY. 707 00:32:59,477 --> 00:33:01,062 YOU CAN-- YOU CAN FUDGE IF YOU WANT. 708 00:33:01,145 --> 00:33:02,355 IT'S ALL RIGHT. 709 00:33:02,438 --> 00:33:05,441 BUT THEN-- OKAY, SO, BUT, THEN, ALL YOUR FRIENDS ARE THE PEOPLE 710 00:33:05,525 --> 00:33:08,611 WHO ARE YOUR SOURCES, AND THEN YOU'RE THE PEOPLE WHO THEY WANT 711 00:33:08,695 --> 00:33:10,405 TO PLANT, YOU KNOW, STORIES WITH. 712 00:33:10,488 --> 00:33:13,616 DO YOU GUYS EVER, LIKE, GET MAD-- DO YOUR FRIENDS ON CAPITOL 713 00:33:13,700 --> 00:33:16,035 HILL EVER GET MAD AT YOU FOR WRITING ABOUT THEM? 714 00:33:16,119 --> 00:33:19,580 AND DO YOU EVER GET MAD AT THEM FOR PLANTING STORIES WITH YOU, 715 00:33:19,664 --> 00:33:22,875 LIKE THIS MUTUAL SORT OF CODEPENDENCY? 716 00:33:22,959 --> 00:33:26,045 >> WELL, I HAVE-- I HAVE A "NO FRIEND ZONE" ON CAPITOL HILL PB 717 00:33:26,129 --> 00:33:30,967 SO I TRY NOT TO BE FRIEND WITH ANYBODY WHO I WRITE ABOUT, WILL 718 00:33:31,050 --> 00:33:34,095 WRITE ABOUT, MIGHT WRITE ABOUT, OR MIGHT EVEN THINK ABOUT. 719 00:33:34,178 --> 00:33:38,057 SO IT'S A GOOD RULE-- IT'S A GOOD RULE OF THUMB WHEN YOU'RE 720 00:33:38,141 --> 00:33:39,100 COVERING CONGRESS. 721 00:33:39,183 --> 00:33:42,103 >> Stephen: ANNA, DO YOU HAVE A "NO FRIEND ZONE." 722 00:33:42,186 --> 00:33:48,943 >> NO, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT. 723 00:33:49,026 --> 00:33:51,738 I THINK OUR JOB IS CHARM, DISARM, GET PEOPLE TO TELL YOU 724 00:33:51,821 --> 00:33:53,156 INFORMATION THAT COULD GET THEM FIRED. 725 00:33:53,239 --> 00:33:54,282 ( LAUGHTER ). 726 00:33:54,365 --> 00:33:57,118 >> Stephen: AND HOW MANY TIMESES HAVE YOU HAD TO PUNCH 727 00:33:57,201 --> 00:34:01,289 MONORAJU IN THE THROAT TO GET TO MITCH McCONNELL BEFORE HE CAN? 728 00:34:01,372 --> 00:34:02,457 >> IT'S FUNNY YOU SAY THAT. 729 00:34:02,540 --> 00:34:05,960 WE WORKED WITH HIM FOR A VERY LONG TIME AT POLITICO, AND HE 730 00:34:06,043 --> 00:34:08,171 IS-- HE IS KNOWN TO JUMP OUT OF BUSHES AND BE AROUND A CORNER 731 00:34:08,254 --> 00:34:10,631 WHEN YOU LEAST WANT TO SEE HIM. 732 00:34:10,715 --> 00:34:11,174 I MEAN, HE IS OUR FRIEND. 733 00:34:11,257 --> 00:34:13,301 WE DON'T REPORT ON HIM. 734 00:34:13,384 --> 00:34:15,136 HE DOESN'T JUMP OUT OF BUSHES ON US -- 735 00:34:15,219 --> 00:34:18,973 >> Stephen: I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO BEAT HIM TO THE CONGRESSMEN. 736 00:34:19,056 --> 00:34:19,974 YOU HAVE TO BEAT HIM. 737 00:34:20,057 --> 00:34:20,600 >> RIGHT. 738 00:34:20,683 --> 00:34:22,477 BUT WE ALSO DON'T PUNCH HIM. 739 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,604 >> Stephen: ANNA, DO YOU PUNCH HIM? 740 00:34:24,687 --> 00:34:29,025 >> NO THE PUNCHBOWL IS THE ONLY PUNCHING I'M DOING THESE DAYS. 741 00:34:29,108 --> 00:34:32,153 >> Stephen: JAKE, YOU WERE IN THE CAPITOL DURING THE ATTACK. 742 00:34:32,236 --> 00:34:33,112 WHAT WAS THAT EXPERIENCE LIKE? 743 00:34:33,196 --> 00:34:35,656 >> IT WAS VERY SEARING. 744 00:34:35,740 --> 00:34:38,493 IT'S LIKE-- NOT TO MINIMIZE IT AT ALL-- BUT IT'S LIKE SOMEBODY 745 00:34:38,576 --> 00:34:41,162 COMING INTO YOUR HOUSE-- I MEAN, WE BASICALLY LIVE IN THE 746 00:34:41,245 --> 00:34:42,330 CAPITOL. 747 00:34:42,413 --> 00:34:44,165 WE SPEND ALL OF OUR DAYS THERE, 12 HOURS A DAY FOR THE LAST 748 00:34:44,248 --> 00:34:45,374 DECADE OR SO. 749 00:34:45,458 --> 00:34:48,669 AND IT'S LIKE SOMEONE COMING INTO YOUR HOUSE AND INVADING IT. 750 00:34:48,753 --> 00:34:49,921 IT WAS VERY SCARY. 751 00:34:50,004 --> 00:34:54,509 I MEAN, PEOPLE WERE BANGING ON THE DOORS, WHEREAS AT A CERTAIN 752 00:34:54,592 --> 00:34:57,553 POINT OUR OFFICE AND THE CAPITOL IS JUST, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF 753 00:34:57,637 --> 00:35:01,516 HUNDRED FEET OR SO FROM THE HOUSE FLOOR, WHERE KIND OF THE 754 00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:04,227 CENTER STAGE OF THE INSURRECTION, WHERE SOMEONE WAS 755 00:35:04,310 --> 00:35:05,520 SHOT AND KILLED. 756 00:35:05,603 --> 00:35:09,357 AND WE WERE-- WE TURNED TO EACH OTHER AT SOME POINT IN THIS ROOM 757 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:14,070 AND SAID TO OURSELVES, "HOW DO WE MAKE SURE NO ONE FINDS US?" 758 00:35:14,153 --> 00:35:20,868 THERE'S A BIG SIGN ON THE DOOR THAT SAYS "PRESS," "PERIODICAL 759 00:35:20,952 --> 00:35:22,745 PRESS," WHICH IS NOT COMFORTING. 760 00:35:22,829 --> 00:35:25,665 WE DIDN'T GET EVACUATED UNTIL SEVERAL HOURS INTO THE 761 00:35:25,748 --> 00:35:26,457 INSURRECTION. 762 00:35:26,541 --> 00:35:27,542 IT WAS SOMETHING I'VE NEVER FORGET. 763 00:35:27,625 --> 00:35:30,044 IT WAS VERY-- VERY ALARMING AND VERY FRIGHTENING. 764 00:35:30,127 --> 00:35:34,173 >> Stephen: YOU KNOW, HAVING THAT VIOLATION OF YOUR 765 00:35:34,257 --> 00:35:37,927 WORKSPACE, AND OF COURSE OF THE SORT OF DEMOCRATICALLY SACRED 766 00:35:38,010 --> 00:35:40,555 SPACE FOR AMERICANS, WHAT DOES IT FEEL LIKE TO BE REPORTING ON 767 00:35:40,638 --> 00:35:42,890 CONGRESS RIGHT NOW, WHEN YOU SEE PEOPLE LIKE TED CRUZ AND JOSH 768 00:35:42,974 --> 00:35:46,394 HAWLEY OUT THERE STROKING THEIR CHINS AND GOING, "OH, GOSH, I 769 00:35:46,477 --> 00:35:48,563 WONDER HOW SOMETHING LIKE THIS COULD HAVE COME ABOUT?" 770 00:35:48,646 --> 00:35:50,606 >> I THINK IT'S DIFFICULT, RIGHT. 771 00:35:50,690 --> 00:35:53,234 I MEAN, WE ALL EXPERIENCED IT. 772 00:35:53,317 --> 00:35:56,737 WE SAW THAT IT WAS AN ARMED INSURRECTION. 773 00:35:56,821 --> 00:36:00,408 THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE MEMBERS GASLIGHLIGHTING AND KIND OF SAYI 774 00:36:00,491 --> 00:36:02,243 THAT THEY WEREN'T ARMED, IT'S JUST FALSE. 775 00:36:02,326 --> 00:36:05,246 AND I USED TO ALWAYS TELL ME MOM, "DON'T WORRY. 776 00:36:05,329 --> 00:36:06,289 WE'RE IN THE CAPITOL. 777 00:36:06,372 --> 00:36:10,084 WE'RE IN THE SAFEST PLACE THAT COULD EVER HAPPEN. 778 00:36:10,167 --> 00:36:11,419 D.C. HAS SO MANY PROTESTS." 779 00:36:11,502 --> 00:36:14,255 AND TO SEE IT TOTALLY DESECRATED LIKE THAT WITH SO MUCH DISREGARD 780 00:36:14,338 --> 00:36:18,926 AND, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT IT WAS REALLY PLANNED, YOU KNOW, 781 00:36:19,010 --> 00:36:19,385 OUT. 782 00:36:19,468 --> 00:36:20,595 IT'S VERY SCARY. 783 00:36:20,678 --> 00:36:24,932 AND I THINK IT'S REALLY ALARMING TO THINK THAT THESE MEMBERS-- 784 00:36:25,016 --> 00:36:27,351 THERE ARE ONLY A FEW OF THEM, BUT THEY ARE LOUD, AND THEY ARE 785 00:36:27,435 --> 00:36:29,228 REALLY PLANTING FALSEHOODS INTO THE PUBLIC. 786 00:36:29,312 --> 00:36:34,066 >> Stephen: WHAT'S GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES IN THE G.O.P. 787 00:36:34,150 --> 00:36:40,615 BETWEEN THE FACTIONS THAT WANT TO STAY CONNECTED TO DONALD 788 00:36:40,698 --> 00:36:42,783 TRUMP, AND THOSE WHO WANT TO DISTANCE THEMSELVES? 789 00:36:42,867 --> 00:36:46,078 >> WE WROTE THIS MORNING THAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS PERHAPS 790 00:36:46,162 --> 00:36:48,831 MORE ADRIFT THAN IT HAS BEEN AT ANY POINT SINCE WATERGATE. 791 00:36:48,915 --> 00:36:53,127 I MEAN, WE HAVE A SMALL MINORITY OF THE G.O.P.-- WHICH, BY THE 792 00:36:53,210 --> 00:36:56,631 WAY, INCLUDES MITCH McCONNELL. 793 00:36:56,714 --> 00:36:59,926 TODAY RAJU ASKED MITCH McCONNELL AT A NEWS CONFERENCE 794 00:37:00,009 --> 00:37:03,930 I WAS AT BASICALLY WHERE HE SHOULD HAVE-- WHETHER HE REGRETS 795 00:37:04,013 --> 00:37:05,139 SPEAKING OUT AGAINST TRUMP. 796 00:37:05,222 --> 00:37:08,142 AND McCONNELL SAID, "I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS ABOUT 797 00:37:08,225 --> 00:37:09,644 THAT EPISODE," OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 798 00:37:09,727 --> 00:37:11,437 SO HE'S NOT EVEN SAYING DONALD TRUMP'S NAME ANYMORE. 799 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:16,984 BUT IT'S AMAZING HOW MUCH ENERGY IS SPENT TRYING TO KEEP DONALD 800 00:37:17,068 --> 00:37:17,944 TRUMP HAPPY. 801 00:37:18,027 --> 00:37:21,030 I MEAN, IT'S JUST-- GOING DOWN TO MAR-A-LAGO. 802 00:37:21,113 --> 00:37:24,200 , MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE WHEN IT COMES TO 803 00:37:24,283 --> 00:37:27,328 DONALD TRUMP, IT'S JUST AMAZING TO WATCH THE ENERGY THAT'S 804 00:37:27,411 --> 00:37:30,331 EXPENDED, THAT'S SPENT KEEPING THE FORMER PRESIDENT HAPPY. 805 00:37:30,414 --> 00:37:32,500 >> Stephen: WE HAVE TO TAKE A QUICK BREAK. 806 00:37:32,583 --> 00:37:36,629 WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH ANNA PALMER AND JAKE SHERMAN OF 807 00:37:36,712 --> 00:37:40,383 "PUNCHBOWL NEWS." 808 00:37:46,430 --> 00:37:50,476 ♪ ♪ ♪ 809 00:38:04,115 --> 00:38:07,410 ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ 810 00:38:07,493 --> 00:38:10,246 >> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY. 811 00:38:10,329 --> 00:38:16,168 WE'RE BACK WITH THE HOSTS OF "THE DAILY PUNCH," ANNA PALMER 812 00:38:16,252 --> 00:38:17,336 AND JAKE SHERMAN. 813 00:38:17,420 --> 00:38:22,258 OKAY, YOU JUST STARTED A NEW NEWS OUTLET CALLED "PUNCHBOWL 814 00:38:22,341 --> 00:38:23,676 NEWS." 815 00:38:23,759 --> 00:38:24,719 WHAT IS IT? 816 00:38:24,802 --> 00:38:26,387 >> PUNCHBOWL IS THE SECRET SERVICE NICKNAME FOR THE 817 00:38:26,470 --> 00:38:29,890 CAPITOL, WHICH WE'VE KIND OF LONG BEEN OBSESSED WITH. 818 00:38:29,974 --> 00:38:34,395 AND OUR THEORY OF THE CASE IS THAT THE CENTER OF THE POLITICAL 819 00:38:34,478 --> 00:38:34,979 UNIVERSE IS THE CAPITOL. 820 00:38:35,062 --> 00:38:36,397 IT'S KIND OF OUR ONE BIAS. 821 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,526 AND OUR MOTTO IS, "POWER, PEOPLE, POLITICS." 822 00:38:40,609 --> 00:38:45,406 WE VIEW EVERYTHING THROUGH THE LEADERSHIP OF CAPITOL HILL-- 823 00:38:45,489 --> 00:38:50,411 KEVIN McCARTHY, MITCH McCONNELL, NANCY PELOSI, AND 824 00:38:50,494 --> 00:38:52,705 CHUCK SCHUMER, HOW THEY OPERATE AND EXERCISE THEIR POWER. 825 00:38:52,788 --> 00:38:54,373 WE THINK THROUGH UNDERSTANDING THEM AND UNDERSTANDING THE 826 00:38:54,457 --> 00:38:59,587 LEADERSHIP AT THE WHITE HOUSE AND HOW THOSE TWO INTERACT YOU 827 00:38:59,670 --> 00:39:00,713 REALLY UNDERSTAND WASHINGTON MUCH BETTER. 828 00:39:00,796 --> 00:39:04,467 WE'RE KIND OF OBSESSED WITH THOSE FOUR PEOPLE AND TRY TO 829 00:39:04,550 --> 00:39:07,053 FOLLOWING EVERYTHING THEY DO AND EVERYTHING THEY SAY BEFORE THEY 830 00:39:07,136 --> 00:39:07,845 SAY IT. 831 00:39:07,928 --> 00:39:09,096 >> Stephen: POWER, PEOPLE, POLITICS. 832 00:39:09,180 --> 00:39:09,805 POWER IS FIRST. 833 00:39:09,889 --> 00:39:11,557 WHO HAS THE MOST POWER RIGHT NOW? 834 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,060 >> I WOULD SAY NANCY PELOSI. 835 00:39:14,143 --> 00:39:18,773 SHE'S BY FAR ONE OF THE MOST, IF NOT THE MOST POWERFUL PEOPLE IN 836 00:39:18,856 --> 00:39:19,940 WASHINGTON. 837 00:39:20,024 --> 00:39:21,942 NOTHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN JOE BIDEN'S WASHINGTON UNLESS 838 00:39:22,026 --> 00:39:24,070 SHE IS ABLE TO GET IT DONE. 839 00:39:24,153 --> 00:39:28,783 I THINK PEOPLE OFTEN MISREAD HER AND HER ABILITY. 840 00:39:28,866 --> 00:39:32,203 JAKE AND I OFTEN SAY YOU DO THAT AT YOUR OWN PERIL. 841 00:39:32,286 --> 00:39:36,165 BECAUSE SHE AND, ACTUALLY, MITCH McCONNELL, ARE MORE ALIKE THAN 842 00:39:36,248 --> 00:39:37,291 NOT. 843 00:39:37,375 --> 00:39:40,127 THEIR POLITICS COULDN'T BE FURTHER FROM EACH OTHER, BUT 844 00:39:40,211 --> 00:39:44,799 THEY BOTH PICK A POSITION, AND THEY JUST WORK TOWARDS IT 845 00:39:44,882 --> 00:39:45,925 ENDLESSLY. 846 00:39:46,008 --> 00:39:47,885 THEY AREN'T, LIKE SO MANY LEADERS, GIVEN TO THE WHIMS OF 847 00:39:47,968 --> 00:39:51,097 THE DAY OR W THE NEWS CYCLE. 848 00:39:51,180 --> 00:39:52,306 SHE WILL OUTWORK EVERYONE. 849 00:39:52,389 --> 00:39:53,516 SHE WILL BE IN THAT POSITION AS LONG AS POSSIBLE. 850 00:39:53,599 --> 00:39:57,520 SHE HAD A LOT OF SUCCESS WITH DONALD TRUMP IN TERMS OF PUSHING 851 00:39:57,603 --> 00:40:02,441 BACK ON HIM, SO SHE WILL BE HUGELY IMPORTANT OVER THE NEXT 852 00:40:02,525 --> 00:40:04,276 TWO YEARS. 853 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,320 >> Stephen: THEIR WEBSITE IS punchbowl.news AND THEIR PODCAST 854 00:40:06,403 --> 00:40:07,154 IS "THE DAILY PUNCH." 855 00:40:07,238 --> 00:40:08,280 ANNA PALMER AND JAKE SHERMAN, EVERYBODY. 856 00:40:08,364 --> 00:40:11,033 WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK. 857 00:40:14,203 --> 00:40:15,329 LATE SHOW," EVERYBODY. 858 00:40:15,413 --> 00:40:19,041 TUNE IN TOMORROW WHEN MY GUEST WILL BE ARSENIO HALL AND MUSICAL 859 00:40:19,125 --> 00:40:20,459 GUEST CELESTE. 860 00:40:20,543 --> 00:40:22,378 JAMES CORDEN IS NEXT. 861 00:40:22,461 --> 00:40:22,920 GOOD NIGHT. 862 00:40:23,003 --> 00:40:25,673 ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ 863 00:40:25,756 --> 00:40:25,798 Captioning sponsored by CBS Captioned by 864 00:40:26,757 --> 00:40:33,848 Media Access Group at WGBH access.wgbh.org