ELMO.
IN RESPONSE TO A RECENT EPISODE OFU"SESAME STREET" IN WHICH ELMO
REFLECTS ON HIS COVID VACCINATION, TED CRUZ SLAMMED
THE SHOW FOR AGGRESSIVELY ADVOCATING FOR YOUNG KIDS' COVID
VACCINES. >> EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY!
SNUFFY, BIG BIRD. >> WHAT IS IT?
>> COME SEE WHAT ELMO DID. >> WHAT HAVE YOU DONE, ELMO?
>> ELMO IS ABOUT TO CLAP BACK. >> OH, THIS COULD GET UGLY.
>> I LOVE A GOOD BEEF. ♪ ♪ ♪
>> Announcer: IT'S "THE LATE
SHOW WITH STEPHEN COLBERT." TONIGHT:
PLUS, STEPHEN WELCOMES: HEIDI KLUM
AND IBRAM X. KENDI
FEATURING JON BATISTE AND STAY HUMAN.
AND NOW, LIVE ON TAPE FROM THE
ED SULLIVAN THEATER IN NEW YORK CITY, IT'S STEPHEN COLBERT!
>> Stephen: GOOD TO SEE YOU. GOOD TO SEE YOU.
HAPPY THURSDAY.
HAPPY GETAWAY DAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WELCOME, ONE AND ALL TO "THE LATE SHOW."
I AM YOUR HOST, STEPHEN COLBERT. TODAY--
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) YEAR'S SUPREME COURT SESSION.
IT'S BEEN A REAL ROLLER-COASTER RIDE, IN THAT I AM NAUSEOUS AND
SCARED WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE. ( LAUGHTER )
JUSTICES HAVE WEAKENED THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND
STATE, OVERTURNED "ROE V. WADE," STRUCK DOWN A 109-YEAR-OLD NEW
YORK LAW LIMITING GUNS IN PUBLIC, AND TODAY, THEY DROPPED
A RULING THAT LIMITS THE E.P.A.'S REGULATION OF CARBON
DIOXIDE EMISSIONS FROM POWER PLANTS.
( AUDIENCE BOOING ) WHAT ARE YOU THINKING, SUPREME
COURT? IT'S THE ENVIRONMENTAL
PROTECTION AGENCY! IF THEY CAN'T LIMIT THE
EMISSIONS, THEN THE AGENCY CAN'T PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT!
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE WHAT THE "P" STANDS FOR.
MAYBE "ENVIRONMENTAL PUNCH-DOLPHINS-IN-THE-TAINT
AGENCY." AND THE CONSERVATIVE MAJORITY
THAT GRAPHIC TOOK ME BY SURPRISE.
A LITTLE BIT. ( LAUGHTER )
ON THE DOLPHIN'S PART. AND THE CONSERVATIVE MAJORITY
KNOWS HOW DANGEROUS IT IS, ESPECIALLY CHIEF JUSTICE JOHN
ROBERTS, SEEN HERE LOOKING AT THE SUPREME COURT'S POLL
NUMBERS. IN HIS OPINION, ROBERTS WRITES,
"CAPPING CARBON DIOXIDE EMISSIONS AT A LEVEL THAT WILL
FORCE A NATIONWIDE TRANSITION AWAY FROM THE USE OF COAL MAY BE
A SENSIBLE "SOLUTION TO THE CRISIS OF THE DAY, BUT A
DECISION OF SUCH MAGNITUDE AND CONSEQUENCE RESTS WITH CONGRESS
ITSELF." HEY, JOHNNY BOBBY!
THIS IS AN EMERGENCY! YOU DON'T STAND ON THE SIDE OF
THE POOL WATCHING SOMEBODY DROWN AND SAY, "WELL, ACTUALLY,
MR. LIFEGUARD, YOU CAN'T JUMP IN AND SAVE HIM, 'CUZ I SAW YOU
EAT LESS THAN HALF AN HOUR AGO. OKAY.
THERE ARE RULES." IS
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) ♪ LA-LA-LA-LA.
IN HER SCATHING DISSENT, JUSTICE KAGAN WRITES, "THE COURT
APPOINTS ITSELF, INSTEAD OF CONGRESS OR THE EXPERT AGENCY,
THE DECISION-MAKER ON CLIMATE POLICY.
I CANNOT THINK OF MANY THINGS MORE FRIGHTENING."
REALLY? HAVE YOU SEEN THEIR OTHER
DECISIONS? WITH THESE MANIACS IN CHARGE,
OUR ONLY HOPE IS THAT THE SMOKESTACKS PUT ON A CONDOM.
( LAUGHTER ) SUPREME COURT NEWS TODAY BECAUSE
KETANJI BROWN JACKSON WAS SWORN IN AS THE COURT'S FIRST BLACK
FEMALE JUSTICE. ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )
I AGREE. I 100% AGREE.
JACKSON'S SWEARING-IN MEANS THAT THE SUPREME COURT, FOR THE FIRST
TIME, WILL HAVE FOUR FEMALE JUSTICES AMONG ITS NINE
MEMBERS. ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )
BARRETT BOUGHT THEM ALL MATCHING OUTFITS.
( LAUGHTER ) IT WAS A NICE GESTURE, THOUGH.
JUSTICE JACKSON CREDITS THREE FACTORS WITH HER SUCCESS: "HARD
WORK, BIG BREAKS, AND TOUGH SKIN."
AS OPPOSED TO THE THREE FACTORS OF BRETT KAVANAUGH'S SUCCESS.
>> BEER. BEER.
TOO MANY BEERS. ( LAUGHTER )
THE MAN-- REMEMBER HIM? REMEMBER HIM?
REMEMBER THAT GUY? THE MAN WHO APPOINTED JUSTICE
JACKSON MISSED HER BIG MOMENT, BECAUSE PRESIDENT BIDEN WAS IN
EUROPE TODAY, WRAPPING UP A NATO SUMMIT WITH A BIG ANNOUNCEMENT.
>> WE'VE INVITED TWO NEW MEMBERS TO JOIN NATO.
IT WAS A HISTORIC ACT. FINLAND AND SWEDEN.
>> Stephen: FINLAND AND SWEDEN ARE JOINING NATO!
IF-- IF THEY MAKE IT THROUGH PLEDGE WEEK.
( LAUGHTER ) BE PADDLED BY JENS STOLTENBERG:
"I'M GOING TO PADDLE YOUR BUTT UNTIL IT'S SO SWOLLEN AND SHINY,
I CAN SEE MY FACE IN IT." COME ON, PLEBES.
OF COURSE, BIDEN BEING BIDEN, HE BRIEFLY ANNOUNCED A THIRD NEW
MEMBER. >> SOME OF THE AMERICAN PRESS
WILL REMEMBER WHEN I GOT A PHONE CALL FROM THE LEADER OF FINLAND
SAYING COULD HE COME AND SEE ME? WE GOT ON THE TELEPHONE, AND HE
SUGGESTED WE CALL THE LEADER OF SWITZERLAND-- SWITZERLAND-- MY
GOODNESS. I'M GETTING REALLY ANXIOUS HERE
ABOUT EXPANDING NATO. OF SWEDEN.
>> Stephen: "SWEDEN, "SWEDEN, SWITZERLAND,
SWAZILAND-- THE IMPORTANT THING IS WE GOT SOME NEW PALOOKAS
CMIN' IN WHO REALLY KNOW THEIR ONIONS!
I MEAN THE MEATBALLS. ANYWAY, WELCOME SWEDEN AND
FURBY. I MEAN FINLAND.
MAMA MIA, HERE WE GO AGAIN! BORK, BORK, BORK!"
( LAUGHTER ) THE NATO SUMMIT WAS RIGHT AFTER
THE ANNUAL MEETING OF THE G7. THE RUSSIAN INVASION OF
UKRAINE WAS ON EVERYONE'S MIND. IN FACT, BRITISH PRIME MINISTER
BORIS JOHNSON JESTED THAT G7 LEADERS COULD TAKE THEIR CLOTHES
OFF TO "SHOW THAT WE'RE TOUGHER THAN PUTIN."
OH, MY GOD, BORIS! STOP TRYING TO START PARTIES!
"LET'S ALL TAKE OUR CLOTHES OFF! IT'S OKAY!
IT'S A WORK SUMMIT! LAST ONE IN THE HOT TUB IS A
DAMP PASTY! COME ON, OLAF.
DON'T YOU WANT TO FIND OUT IF THE THATCHED ROOF MATCHES THE
HAYSTACK?" ( LAUGHTER )
I DON'T. >> Louis: A DISTURBING IMAGE.
>> Stephen: IN RESPONSE, CANADIAN PREMIER JUSTIN TRUDEAU
JOKED THAT WESTERN LEADERS COULD TRY TO MATCH PUTIN'S NAKED TORSO
PICTURES WITH A "BARE-CHESTED HORSEBACK RIDING DISPLAY."
YES, THAT'S HOW YOU SHOW THE RUSSIANS WHO'S BOSS.
WHO COULD FORGET THE POTSDAM CONFERENCE WHEN HARRY TRUMAN
INTIMIDATED STALIN WITH A NIP-SLIP.
( LAUGHTER ) PUTIN WASN'T AMUSED BY THE
COMMENTS. TODAY, HE RESPONDED, "I DON'T
KNOW HOW THEY WANTED TO GET UNDRESSED, ABOVE OR BELOW THE
WAIST, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE A DISGUSTING SIGHT IN ANY CASE."
BELOW THE WAIST? SO, BORIS'S JOHNSON?
( LAUGHTER ) VERY GENERAL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JOSEPH. AND I'LL HAVE YOU KNOW THAT MANY
G7 LEADERS ARE ACTUALLY VERY FIT.
I MEAN, WHO DOESN'T WANT TO SEE EMMANUEL MACRON TAKE HIS SHIRT
OFF-- AND THEN MAYBE THAT SWEATER HE'S GOT ON UNDER THAT
SHIRT. ( LAUGHTER )
CONDITIONER. VLAD CONTINUED, "TO LOOK GOOD
IT'S NECESSARY TO STOP ABUSING ALCOHOL AND OTHER BAD HABITS, DO
PHYSICAL EXERCISE, AND TAKE PART IN SPORTS."
SORRY TO INFORM YOU, VLAD, BUT BORIS...
JOHNSON... PLAYS...
SPORT. ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )
WIMBLEDON IS GOING ON, RIGHT? IT'S SUMMERTIME, AND THE HOTTEST
TREND IS FIGURING OUT WHAT TO DO IN THE WAKE OF THE SUPREME
COURT'S ELIMINATION OF BODILY AUTONOMY.
SO, LET'S HEAD TO THE BATHING SUIT AREA FOR "THE LATE SHOW'S"
NEW SEGMENT, "CROTCH WOTCH"! ♪ ♪ ♪
( APPLAUSE ) THE SUPREME COURT'S ONLY KICK TO
YOUR GROIN, BECAUSE IN A CONCURRING OPINION, JUSTICE
CLARENCE THOMAS SAID THE COURT SHOULD ALSO REVISIT DECISIONS ON
THE RIGHT TO CONTRACEPTION, THE RIGHT OF GAY COUPLES TO
MARRY, AND THE OVERTURNING OF SODOMY LAWS.
( AUDIENCE BOOING ) WHICH, AMONG OTHER THINGS, WOULD
BAN ORAL SEX. AND IN RESPONSE, I JUST WANT
TO SAY, CLARENCE THOMAS CAN SUCK IT.
( LAUGHTER ) WITH-- AND I MEAN THAT.
AND I MEAN THAT IN THE NICEST WAY POSSIBLE.
I WANT TO ENCOURAGE THAT. WITH CONTRACEPTION IN THE
JUDICIAL CROSSHAIRS, FOLKS ARE TAKING THEIR GENITALS INTO THEIR
OWN HANDS, WITH MEN RUSHING TO GET VASECTOMIES.
AND THEN VERY SLOWLY WALKING HOME FROM THEM.
( LAUGHTER ) BEFORE THE SUPREME COURT'S
RULING, HE RECEIVED FOUR OR FIVE VASECTOMY REQUESTS A DAY.
BUT SINCE THE DECISION, THAT NUMBER HAS SPIKED TO
12 TO 18. MAKES SENSE.
THE MOST EFFECTIVE FORMS OF BIRTH CONTROL FOR MEN ARE
ABSTINENCE AND VASECTOMIES. THEY HAVE A SIMILAR RESULT, BUT
THERE'S A VAS DEFERENS. ( LAUGHTER )
REALLY? REALLY?
THERE YOU GO. SOMEONE-- SOMEONE WENT TO HEALTH
CLASS. THOSE PATIENT NUMBERS ARE FROM
DOUG STEIN, A FLORIDA UROLOGIST KNOWN AS THE "VASECTOMY KING."
OH, I LOVE VASECTOMY KING. THEY HAVE WAY BETTER FRIES THAN
SACK-DONALD'S. ( LAUGHTER )
NEXT UP ON NEWS FROM DOWNTOWN, A 72-YEAR-OLD AMERICAN HAS
BECOME THE FIRST PERSON IN THE WORLD DIAGNOSED WITH A
"WHISTLING SCROTUM." WHY WAS HIS SCROTUM WHISTLING?
IT COULDN'T REMEMBER THE WORDS. ( LAUGHTER )
( APPLAUSE ) THAT JOKE IS FROM WAY DOWNTOWN.
APPARENTLY, THE OHIO MAN WAS QUICKLY SENT TO A HOSPITAL AFTER
HE COMPLAINED OF A "HISSING" NOISE COMING FROM HIS GENITALIA,
LEADING WOMEN TO ASK, "IS THAT A SNAKE IN YOUR POCKET, OR ARE YOU
JUST HAPPY TO SEE ME? OR, THIRD OPTION, ARE YOUR
GENITALS HISSING?" AFTER TAKING SOME SCANS, DOCTORS
DISCOVERED HIS LUNGS HAD COLLAPSED, CAUSING A BUILD-UP
OF AIR INSIDE HIS BODY, WHICH WAS ESCAPING THROUGH AN OPEN
WOUND ON THE LEFT SIDE OF HIS SCROTUM.
WHEN HE HEARD THE DIAGNOSIS, HIS SCROTUM WENT
( WHISTLING ) ( APPLAUSE )
>> Louis: IT'S A QUALITY JOKE. >> Stephen: PRETTY GOOD ONE,
ISN'T IT? VERY GOOD.
THERE YOU GO. LAST UP IN THE CROTCHES WE'RE
WATCHING: AN AUSTRIAN MAN HAS CONTRACTED SUPER-GONORRHEA.
IT'S EXTREMELY HARD TO DIAGNOSE, BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE NORMAL
GONORRHEA, UNTIL IT TAKES OFF ITS GLASSES.
( LAUGHTER ) APPARENTLY-- LOOK, UP IN THE
SKY! APPARENTLY, THE MAN GOT IT AFTER
HAVING UNPROTECTED SEX ON VACATION.
AND IT'S NOT JUST A PESKY SOUVENIR, BECAUSE SCIENTISTS ARE
SAYING SUPER GONORRHEA POSES A MAJOR GLOBAL PUBLIC HEALTH
THREAT. THAT'S WHY WE HERE AT "THE LATE
SHOW" HAVE WRITTEN A SING-A-LONG P.S.A. TO RAISE AWARENESS.
A-FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT! ( SINGING TO
♪ SUPER GONORRHEA, NOW I'VE GOT A GIANT TESTE
♪ IT'S A SUPER STRAIN SO PENICILLIN WILL NOT
HELP ME ♪ IT FEELS LIKE MY JUNK JUST GOT
SUCKED INTO A VACUUM CLEANER
♪ SUPER GONORRHEA SUPER REALLY HURTS MY WIENER ♪
( APPLAUSE ) TONIGHT.
THERE YOU GO. THERE YOU GO.
THANK YOU, MY FRIENDS. MY GUESTS ARE HEIDI KLUM
AND IBRAM X. KENDI. BUT WHEN WE COME BACK, IN HONOR
OF PRIDE MONTH, WE'VE GOT A RAINBOW OF JOKES.
STICK AROUND. ♪ ♪ ♪
PLEASE SAY HELLO TO THE BAND. THAT'S STAY HUMAN RIGHT OVER
THERE. COME ON!
( APPLAUSE ) LOUIS, TONIGHT, WE'VE GOT SOME
DELIGHTFUL-- I HAVE NEVER INTERVIEWED HER BEFORE.
>> Louis: COME ON. >> Stephen: I CAN'T BELIEVE
IT. I FEEL LIKE MET HER, BUT I CAN'T
NAME WHEN. HEIDI KLUM IS GOING TO BE OUT
HERE IN A LITTLE WHILE. "PROJECT RUNWAY," "MAKING THE
CUT." AND ALMOST ON THE TWO-YEAR
ANNIVERSARY OF WHEN WE LAST HAD HIM ON, IBRAM X. KENDI, WILL BE
OUT HERE A LITTLE LATER ON IN THE SHOW.
FOLKS, IT'S THE LAST DAY OF PRIDE MONTH, WHEN WE CELEBRATE
L.G.B.T.Q.I.A. CULTURE, NOT ONLY A VIBRANT AND UNIQUE COMMUNITY,
BUT ALSO A BRUTAL SCRABBLE RACK. ( LAUGHTER )
YEAR'S PRIDE MONTH HIGHLIGHTS IN MY SEGMENT:
♪ ♪ ♪ >> THE LATE SHOW'S PRIDE
MONTH NEWS PARADE! GOOGLE STONEWALL!
PL >> Stephen: FIRST UP, IN A YEAR
WHEN OVER 300 ANTI-L.G.B.T.Q. BILLS HAVE BEEN INTRODUCED
ACROSS THE COUNTRY, IT'S IMPORTANT TO SHOW ALLY-SHIP.
AND AS ALWAYS, WE LOOK TO OUR BURGERS FOR MORAL GUIDANCE.
CASE IN POINT, BURGER KING DEBUTED A "PRIDE WHOPPER" WITH
"TWO EQUAL BUNS." ( LAUGHTER )
BURGERS... GAY?
( LAUGHTER ) TWO TOP BUNS OR TWO BOTTOM
BUNS." ( LAUGHTER )
"WE UNDERSTAND GAY CULTURE" LIKE TWO TOPS.
( LAUGHTER ) PROMOTIONS A LITTLE MORE RIGHT.
FOR INSTANCE, NASCAR TWEETED "YASCAR" FOR THE LAUNCH OF THEIR
PRIDE MONTH T-SHIRTS. GOOD FOR NASCAR.
THOUGH, I GOTTA SAY, NASCAR'S ACTUAL LOGO?
ALREADY PRETTY GAY. OF COURSE, NOT ALL NASCAR FANS
ARE ON BOARD WITH THIS, WITH ONE TWEETING "NO LONGER A FAN OF
NASCAR AFTER I SAW THIS." WELL, IF YOU'RE UPSET ABOUT
NASCAR BEING GAY FRIENDLY, WAIT 'TIL YOU HEAR WHAT RUPAUL DID
( APPLAUSE ) KIDS' TOYS.
FOR INSTANCE, BRATZ HAS LAUNCHED A SPECIAL PRIDE DOLL PACK.
THAT'S GREAT, BUT I'M STILL OPPOSED TO BRATZ'S UNREALISTIC
BODY IMAGE. THERE IS NO HEALTHY WAY FOR A
GIRL TO ACHIEVE A HEAD THAT BIG. THE DOLLS ARE NAMED ROXXI AND
NEVRA, AND WERE REVEALED TO BE GIRLFRIENDS IN 2020.
WELL, IT'S NICE TO KNOW WE'VE REACHED A POINT WHERE A BRAND
CAN ANNOUNCE THEIR DOLLS ARE QUEER.
IT WASN'T LONG AGO THAT MATTEL LAUNCHED THEIR HIGHLY
CONTROVERSIAL "BARBIE AND HER FRIEND WHO'S DEFINITELY JUST
HER ROOMMATE, KAYLA." ( LAUGHTER )
( APPLAUSE ) IN EUROPE, IN HONOR OF PRIDE
MONTH, LUFTHANSA HAS A PLANE UNDER THE BANNER "LOVE-HANSA"
AND SAYS THE NEW DECALS SHOW THAT IT'S A COMPANY THAT STANDS
FOR OPENNESS, DIVERSITY, AND UNDERSTANDING.
NOT TO BE OUTDONE, SPIRIT AIRLINES RELEASED THIS PRO-PRIDE
STATEMENT: "AT SPIRIT, WE EMBRACE ALL PEOPLE WHO ARE
WILLING TO SIT IN PET CARGO AND PAY FOR THEIR GINGER ALE AND
PEANUTS WITH HUMAN TEETH." ( LAUGHTER )
BACK STATESIDE, THERE'S PROGRESS FOR L.G.B.T.Q. ACCEPTANCE.
2022 SAW A SURGE IN SMALL-TOWN PRIDE EVENTS, LIKE IN
PULASKI, TENNESSEE, A TOWN OF 7,600 RESIDENTS, WHICH FEATURED
SEVERAL HUNDRED CARS, INCLUDING A JEEP SPORTING THE PHRASE
"REDNECKS 4 RAINBOWS." THAT'S NIE.
( APPLAUSE ) REDNECK CULTURE IS GETTING MORE
INCLUSIVE. PRETTY SOON, LARRY THE CABLE GUY
WILL HAVE TO CHANGE HIS CATCHPHRASE TO "GIT 'ER/'IM/'EM
DONE." IN SPORTS NEWS, FIFA HAS ISSUED
A WARNING TO QATAR WORLD CUP HOTELS OVER L.G.B.T.Q.
DISCRIMINATION, SAYING ESTABLISHMENTS ARE "REQUIRED TO
WELCOME GUESTS IN A 'NONDISCRIMINATORY MANNER' OR
FACE TERMINATION OF CONTRACTS." YOU KNOW YOU SUCK WHEN THE VOICE
OF MORALITY IS FIFA. THAT'S LIKE GETTING LECTURED
( APPLAUSE ) "WOAH, WHOAH, WOAH, COOL IT ON
THE ANTI-SEMITISM, SUGAR ( BLEEP ).
IN LINGUISTICS NEWS, HIP HOP ARTIST LIL NAS X WANTS THE WORD
"BUSSY" ADDED TO THE DICTIONARY FOR PRIDE MONTH.
IN CASE YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR-- AND I WAS NOT-- "BUSSY" REFERS
TO THE MALE ANUS, AND IS A PORTMANTEAU OF THE WORDS "BOY"
AND... ANOTHER WORD.
( LAUGHTER ) IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT IT IS.
OF COURSE, IN POLITE COMPANY, YOU DON'T USE "BUSSY."
INSTEAD, YOU USE THE MORE FORMAL "BAGINA."
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH HEIDI KLUM.
♪ ♪ ♪ ( APPLAUSE )
WELCOME BACK! WELCOME BACK.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, MY FIRST GUEST THIS EVENING IS A MODEL
AND EMMY AWARD-WINNING TELEVISION HOST YOU KNOW FROM
"AMERICA'S GOT TALENT," "GERMANY'S NEXT TOP MODEL," AND
"MAKING THE CUT." PLEASE WELCOME TO "THE LATE
SHOW," HEIDI KLUM! ♪ ♪ ♪
( APPLAUSE ) HI!
I'M SO EXCITED TO BE HERE BECAUSE YOU'VE NEVER INVITED ME
EVER. THIS IS MY FIRST TIME.
>> Stephen: I DON'T KNOW WHETHER I'VE NEVER INVITED YOU.
MAYBE YOU'VE NEVER ACCEPTED THE INVITATION BEFORE.
>> I ALWAYS WOULD. >> Stephen: I FEEL LIKE I MET
YOU BACKSTAGE AT THE EMMYS OR SOMETHING, WE RUBBED SHOULDERS.
>> SOME MAKEUP ON YOUR SHOULDER. >> Stephen: EXACTLY.
I KNOW I'VE SEEN YOU IN THE WILD.
>> YES. >> Stephen: YES.
>> I SEE YOU ON TV ALL THE TIME SO I FEEL LIKE I KNOW YOU.
>> Stephen: THIS IS MY NATURAL HABITAT.
>> YOU LOOK GREAT IN PERSON. >> Stephen: THANK YOU.
YOU LOOK FANTASTIC IN PERSON. THIS IS A REALLY GOOD INTERVIEW
SO FAR. >> THANKS.
>> Stephen: YOU-- YOU'RE A HOST AND A JUDGE, BUT YOU ARE NO
STRANGER TO COMPETITION YOURSELF, BECAUSE YOU STARTED
MODELING BY WINNING A MODELING CONTEST IN 19--
>> I DID. IN 1992.
>> Stephen: HAPPY 30th ANNIVERSARY OF STARTING YOUR
MODELING CAREER. >> THANK YOU.
>> Stephen: WHAT WERE THE FIRST-- WHAT WERE THE FIRST
MODELING GIGS YOU GOT? >> OH, I DID ONE ONE COMMERCIAL
FOR SWATCH WATCHES. I DID ONE WHERE IT WAS FOR A
BRA, I THINK IT WAS WONDER BRA, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHERE IT
WAS NOT MY FACE, UNFORTUNATELY. IT WAS JUST MY BRE BREASTS AND Y
HANDS. I DID A LOT OF HAND MODELING
THEN. >> Stephen: THEY HIRED YOU TO
BE A HAND MODEL. >> HANDS AND BREASTS.
>> Stephen: ONE MORE TIME. >> I WAS SUPPOSED TO OPEN THE
CLASP IN THE FRONT, AS I OPENED IT, AND IT OPENS, AND THE TV
GOES FOR IT, AND THE TV BREAKS. BUT THAT WAS IT.
NO HEAD, NOTHING ELSE, IT WAS JUST THIS PART.
>> Stephen: AT WHAT POINT WERE YOU ALLOWED TO USE YOUR SKULL?
>> A FEW YEARS AFTER THAT. >> Stephen: REALLY?
>> YEAH. >> Stephen: IT IT TOOK A FEW
YEARS TO GO, "THAT'S GOOD, TOO." >> BUT I NEVER LEFT, AND I I'M
STILL HERE. THAT'S GOOD.
I START HERD, MOVED MY WAY UP TO HERE.
( APPLAUSE ). MOVE DOWN FOR A MOMENT.
>> YOU HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE. >> Stephen: IS IT TRUE YOUR
LEGS ARE INSURED BY LLOYD'S OF LONDON?
>> YES. NOT ANYMORE, NOT ANYMORE.
>> Stephen: THEY WERE. >> IT WAS $2 MILLION.
>> Stephen: WAIT, $2 MILLION A LEG.
OR ONE PER LEG. >> THIS ONE LEG WAS WAY MORE
EXPENSIVE THAN THE OTHER LEG. I THINK THIS ONE WAS ONLY, LIKE,
$700,000 AND THIS ONE WAS $1.3. BECAUSE I HAVE A LITTLE SCAR ON
THIS LEG, WHEN I FELL INTO A GLASS.
>> Stephen: LET ME SEE. >> SEE IT.
>> Stephen: HIDEOUS. ABSOLUTELY HIDEOUS.
THAT'S $300,000 OF DAMAGE RIGHT THERE.
>> LOOK AT THAT. LOOK AT THAT!
>> Stephen: HOW DID THAT HAPPEN?
>> I FELL ON A IN A CLASS BECAUSE I WASN'T LISTENING, I
WAS YOUNG. I STILL DON'T LISTEN.
I WAS RUNNING AROUND A TABLE, OUTSIDE, WITH LOTS OF FRIENDS,
AND THEY SAID, "STOP RUNNING AROUND UNDERSTAND THE TABLE
BECAUSE THERE ARE ALL THESE GLASSES."
BOOM, CONNECT, SEVEN STITCHES LATER AND $700,000 LEG, VERSUS
-- >> Stephen: STILL PRETTY WILL
GOOD PRICE FOR A LEG. >> IT WASN'T ME.
IT WAS A CLIENT WHO DID THAT. >> Stephen: WHO INSURED YOUR
LEGS. >> YES.
>> Stephen: WHAT WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN TO GET THEM, SOMETHING
BAD? >> I DON'T KNOW.
IT WAS LIKE AN EPI -- >> Stephen: TO TAKE THE HAIR
OFF YOUR LEGGING. >> SO THEY INSURE MID LEGS.
THEY'RE NOT INSURED ANYMORE. IT WAS MANY, MANY MOONS AGO.
>> Stephen: ROGER CONWAY, HOSTING THAT FOR 16 SEASONS.
AND NOW THIRD SEASON OF "MAKING THE CUT."
>> YES. >> Stephen: IT'S A FASHION
DESIGN REALITY SHOW-- >> IT'S A DESIGN COMPETITION
SHOW. >> Stephen: HOW DOES "MAKING
THE CUT" DIFFER FROM "PROJECT RUN WAY."
>> I'M STILL WITH MY TV HUSBAND, TIM GUNN.
WHO I LOVE SO DEARLY. I MEAN, 16 YEARS WE DID "PROJECT
RUNWAY TOGETHER, SCBTS NOW THREE YEARS "MAKING THE CUT."
WHAT IS DIFFERENT NOW IS ACTUALLY ALL OF YOU CAN SHOP THE
BEAUTIFUL CLOTHES THAT ARE BEING MADE ON THE SHOW.
YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A VERY SHORT TIME, AND I GIVE THEM A
CHALLENGE, AND THEN THEY HAVE TO KNOW-- SOMETIMES THEY HAVE ONE
DAY OR TWO DAYS TO PLAC THIS ASSIGNMENT.
AND THEN WE HAVE A WINNING LOOK, AND THAT LOOK YOU CAN BUY ON
AMAZON, BECAUSE MY SHOW IS ON AMAZON PRIME.
IMMEDIATELY YOU SEE IT -- >> Stephen: YOU SAY, "I LIKE
THOSE PANTS OR THAT BLOUSE," AND I CAN GO BUY IT.
>> EXACTLY. >> Stephen: WHAT IS TIM GUNN
LIKE IN REALITY? >> EXACTLY--LY --
>> Stephen: I THINK HE'S JUST A TREASURE.
>> HE IS. >> Stephen: HE'S SO CALMING,
LIKE JUST A WARM BATH TO LISTEN TO.
( LAUGHTER ). AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND HALF THE
THINGS HE SAYS SO WE GET ALONG GREAT.
HE HAS SO MANY WORDS-- I LEARNED ONE THE OTHER DAY.
TITILLATING, I THOUGHT IT HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH SOMETHING
ELSE. THAT IT WAS A NAUGHTY THING TO
SAY. >> Stephen: SOMETIMES IT DOES.
>> TITILLATING. >> Stephen: DEPENDING WHAT
YOU'RE INTO. >> I SAID, "TIM, I DON'T THINK
YOU CAN SAY THAT." HE SAID, "OF COURSE WE CAN SAY
TITILLATING. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT."
SO THAT'S AMAZING. HE ALWAYS TEACHES ME NEW WORDS.
>> Stephen: DOES HE GET EMBARRASSED?
>> ABOUT ME. >> Stephen: NO, DOES HE GET--
HE LOOKS LIKE A GUY WHO WOULD BLUSH EASILY.
>> AND HE DOESN'T WEAR ANY MAKEUP.
>> Stephen: HE DOESN'T? WHAT'S HIS REGIMEN?
DOES HE JUST EXFOLATE BECAUSE HE LOOKS POLISHED.
>> I DON'T KNOW. HE FEELS LIKE IT'S NOT FOR HIM.
HE DOESN'T WANT TO DO IT. NO FOUNDATION, NO POWDER,
NOTHING. NORMALLY PEOPLE ON TV, MEN AND
WOMEN, USUALLY WEAR -- >> Stephen: I NEVER WEAR
MAKEUP, SO I WOULDN'T KNOW. WE HAVE A CLIP HERE.
WHAT DO WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE TWO OF YOU, OUT IN THE
DESERT SOMEPLACE? >> YES, WE'RE OUT IN THE DESERT.
THIS IS A CHALLENGE ABOUT FESTIVALWARE.
WHAT THE DESIGNERS ALWAYS HAVE TO DO, THEY HAVE TO DO AN
OVER-THE-TOP FANTASY OUTFIT, AND THE SECOND LOOK IS THE LOOK YOU
CAN HOPEFULLY BUY ON AMAZON. >> Stephen: SO READY TO WEAR.
>> ONLY ONE WINS. HERE WE ARE IN THE DESERT AND
THEY'RE MAKING FESTIVEWARE. I'M SO INTO THE DESERT RUNWAY
SHOW. >> HIDE, AS YOU KNOW, I'M MUCH
MORE OF A CITY PERSON BUT THIS IS BREATHTAKING.
>> IT IS. >> WE ARE IN THE HIGH DESERT OF
CALIFORNIA. IT HAS BEEN A HOLLYWOOD FILMING
LOCATION SINCE 1905. HOW FABULOUS IS THAT?
>> LOVE IT. >> I MEAN, IT DOES LOOK LIKE
WE'RE IN HOLLYWOOD. IT LOOKS LI LOOKS LIKE THIS WASN
SCREEN, DOESN'T IT? BUT THOSE ARE REAL.
>> Stephen: YOU'RE WEARING BASICALLY A TURTLENECK
LONG-SLEEVED DRESS. >> IT'S A DOLCE.
>> Stephen: HOW MUCH WERE YOU SWEATING UNDER THERE.
>> YOU ALSO KNOW THIS IS TELEVISION AND THINGS ARE NOT IN
SEQUENCE. WE FILMED MANY, MANY MOONS AGO
AND IN THE DESERT IT IS FREEZING.
>> Stephen: AT NIGHT IT'S FREEZING.
IN THE DAY, ISN'T IT HOT? >> NO, NO, NO.
WHEN WE WERE FILMING THIS-- I THINK WE WERE FILMING THIS, I
WANT TO SAY IN NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER WE WERE FILMING THIS.
>> Stephen: OKAY. IT MUST BE HIGH DESERT,
SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >> IT IS COLD OUT THERE.
>> Stephen: YEAH. >> YEAH, IT'S COLD IN THE
MORNING AND GETS REALLY COLD AT THE END OF THE DAY.
>> Stephen: WE HAVE TO TAKE A QUICK BREAK, BUT WHEN WE COME
BACK, WE WILL FIND OUT HEIDI'S SECRET TALENT.
STICK AROUND, Y'ALL.
WE'RE BACK WITH BURGEONING HAND MODEL, HEIDI KLUM.
NINTH SEASON AMERICA'S GOT TALENT AS WELL.
>> I HAVE TOO MUCH FUN. "AMERICA'S GOT TALENT" IS SO
MUCH FUN. IT IS SO MUCH FUN.
I HAVE THE BEST TIME. I MEAN, I'M SITTING NEXT TO
SOPHIA. SHE IS THE BEST.
WE HAVE THE BEST TIME. AND YOU JUST NEVER KNOW WHO
COMES ON TO THAT STAGE AND EVERYONE IS JUST MORE AMAZING
THAN THE NEXT, AND THEY'RE ALSO A LOT OF FUN.
>> Stephen: I LIKE WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW-- LIKE, YOU'RE
COMPLETELY SURPRISED BY THE TALENT.
THAT'S WHAT I LIKE. "WHAT IS THIS GOING TO BE?"
AND IT BLOWS YOU OUT OF THE WATER.
YOU'RE AWE MULTITALENTED PERSON, YOU SING, YOU MODEL, YOU DESIGN.
DO YOU HAVE A SECRET TALENT? >> OOOH.
WELL, I CAN MAKE MYSELF NOT SWEAT IN THE FACE.
I WILL SWEAT LIKE CRAZY HERE WHERE YOU CAN'T SEE IT, BUT I
WILL TELL MYSELF, "DON'T SWEAT IN THE FACE RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE I
DON'T WANT TO HAVE A SHINY FACE."
>> Stephen: HOW-- WAIT A SECOND.
HOLD ON. WAIT A SECOND.
LET'S FIND OUT-- I WANT TO DIG IN HERE JUST A LITTLE BIT.
HOW DO YOU TELL YOURSELF? WHAT DO YOU SAY TO YOUR FACE?
BECAUSE I NEED THAT SKILL. I-- I SWEAT IN THE FACE--
>> I JUST TELL MYSELF, "DON'T SWEAT IN THE FACE."
( LAUGHTER ). DISCOVER YOU COULD DO THIS?
>> I GUESS IT'S THROUGH MODELING.
BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE OUT AND ABOUT-- BECAUSE THEY COME ALL
THE TIME AND THEY WILL PUT THAT POWDER PUFF IN YOUR FACE.
>> Stephen: THOSE LITTLE PIECES OF PAPER AND STUFF LIKE
THIS. >> AND THEN IT'S LIKE THIS.
SO I'M LIKE, "DON'T SWEAT IN THE FACE."
AND I SWEAT EVERYWHERE WHERE YOU DON'T SEE IT.
THAT'S MYITAL PENT IT'S HIDDEN, BECAUSE I DON'T SHOW IT.
( LAUGHTER ) IS.
>> Stephen: BRAVA! >> THANK YOU.
>> Stephen: HEIDI, IT WAS LOVELY IT MEET YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING ON. >> IT WAS NICE TO MEET YOU.
>> Stephen: SEASON THREE OF "MAKING THE CUT" PREMIERES
AUGUST 19 ON PRIME VIDEO. HEIDI KLUM, EVERYBODY!
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH IBRAM X. KENDI.
( APPLAUSE ) WELCOME BACK!
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, MY NEXT GUEST IS AN HISTORIAN AND
LEADING ANTIRACIST SCHOLAR. HE HAS JUST WRITTEN TWO NEW
BOOKS: "HOW TO RAISE AN ANTIRACIST" AND
"GOODNIGHT RACISM." PLEASE WELCOME BACK TO
"THE LATE SHOW," IBRAM X. KENDI! ♪ ♪ ♪
( APPLAUSE ) >> Stephen: NICE TO SEE YOU
AGAIN. >> IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE.
>> Stephen: FIRST TIME WE'VE SEEN EACH OTHER IN PERSON,
BECAUSE THE LAST TIME WE TALKED WAS AT THE HEIGHT OF COVID, AND
IT WAS ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO THIS WEEK, JUNE 25, 2020.
AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT "HOW TO BE AN ANTIRACIST" AT THE
TIME, YOUR BOOK AT THE TIME, AND ALSO THE ONGOING PROTESTS IN THE
STREETS FOLLOWING THE DEATH OF GEORGE FLOYD.
I WANT TO GET INTO HOW YOU SEE THE UNITED STATES AND HOW YOU
SEE PROGRESS TWO YEARS LATER. FIRST I WANT TO TALK ABOUT YOUR
NEW BOOKS. HERE WE GO.
THIS IS A BOOK FOR AN ADULT CALLED "HOW TO RAISE AN
ANTIRACIST." AND A BOOK FOR CHILDREN CALLED
"GOODNIGHT RACISM." ( APPLAUSE )
AUDIO BOOK OF THE CHILDREN'S BOOK HERE IS ACTUALLY READ BY
YOUR DAUGHTER. >> Audience: OOOOH!
( APPLAUSE ) WHAT'S IT LIKE TO, YOU KNOW,
LISTEN TO YOUR DAUGHTER READING YOUR WORK?
>> IT WAS JUST UNSPEAKABLE. I MEAN IT WAS...
INCREDIBLE, I THINK, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE SHE HAD BEEN ACTUALLY
DOING SPEECH THERAPY. >> Stephen: OH, REALLY?
>> AND SO TO SEE HER AND TO SEE HER CONFIDENCE AND SEE HOW PROUD
OF HERSELF THAT SHE WAS. I MEAN, IT WAS JUST-- I MEAN,
THERE WAS NOTHING LIKE IT. NOW, IT ALMOST DIDN'T HAPPEN
BECAUSE HER GRANDPARENTS NEGOTIATED HARD FOR HER.
>> Stephen: OH, SHE HAS REMS. REPRESENTATION.
>> SHE DEFINITELY HAS REPRESENTATION.
>> Stephen: ANYTHING IN HER RIDER, LIKE NO M&M.
S. >> I HAVE TO PUT A GIFT UNDER
HER PILLOW EVERY NIGHT. >> Stephen: FOR HOW LONG?
>> SHE WAS LIKE EAT THE PRESENT TIMER, BUT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE
OUT HOW TO STOP IT. >> Stephen: DEPENDS ON HOW
LONG IT STAYS ON THE BESTSELLER LIST?
WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ANTIRACISM AS OPPOSED TO NOT
BEING NOT RACIST. >> BEING ANTIRACIST IS RECOGNIZE
THE RACIAL GROUPS AS EQUALS, IS TO CHALLENGE POLICIES THAT ARE
LEADING TO INEQUITY AND INJUSTICE, AND TO REALLY SEEK TO
DECONSTRUCT RACISM AND CREATE EQUITY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
>> Stephen: SO IT'S ACTIVIVE AS OPPOSED TO A PASSIVE
RESPONSE? >> EXACTLY
( APPLAUSE ). YOU WERE RELUCTANT TO TALK TO
YOUR DAUGHTER ABOUT RACISM. WHAT-- WELL, WHAT CHANGED FOR
YOU? WHAT MADE YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND,
OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, ALL THE RACISM?
MORE THAT I RESEARCHED THIS TOPIC, THE MORE THAT I REALIZED
THAT THE VERY PEOPLE WHO ARE THE MOST VULNERABLE TO RACISM ARE
THE PEOPLE LEAST LIKELY TO ENGAGE ABOUT IT, ARE CHILDREN.
SO IT'S ACTUALLY PROTECTIVE TO ENGAGE THEM.
IT'S PROTECTIVE FOR A CHILD TO LEARN.
THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THEM BECAUSE OF THE COLOR OF THEIR
SKIN OR THERE'S NOTHING SPECIAL ABOUT THEM BECAUSE OF THE COLOR
OF THEIR SKIN. IT'S PROTECTIVE WHEN OUR KIDS
ARE CROSSING THE STREETS OF THE WORLD THAT WE TEACH THEM TO LOOK
BOTH WAYS, TO IDENTIFY THINGS THAT CAN HIT THEM AND HARM THEM.
AND CERTAINLY, THESE MESSAGES CAN HIT THEM AND HARM THEM.
>> Stephen: ONE OF THE ARGUMENTS YOU HEAR IN OPPOSITION
TO TALKING TO YOUNG CHILDREN OR TO TEACH ELEMENTARY-LEVEL SCHOOL
CHILDREN ABOUT RACISM OR HISTORY OF RACISM IN AMERICA, THE
ARGUMENT GOES SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF, "WELL, YOU'RE
GOING TO MAKE WHITE KIDS FEEL BAD ABOUT BEING WHITE."
WHAT-- WHAT IS YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT?
>> WELL, I WOULD SAY THOSE PEOPLE ARE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT
OR TEACHING OF SLAVERY. SO LET'S JUST TALK ABOUT
SLAVERY. >> Stephen: SURE.
>> IF WE TEACH WHITE KIDS ABOUT SLAVERY, WE'RE GOING TO TEACH
THEM THAT THERE WERE WHITE PEOPLE WHO ENSLAVED PEOPLE AND
THERE WERE BLACK PEOPLE WHO WERE ENSLAVED.
AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO TEACH THEM THAT THERE WERE WHITE
PEOPLE AND BLACK PEOPLE WHO CHALLENGED AND FOUGHT AGAINST
SLAVERY. AND SO MY QUESTION BACK TO THEM
WOULD BE, "WHY CAN'T WE ALLOW WHITE CHILDREN TO IDENTIFY WITH
WHITE ABOLITIONISTS?" ( APPLAUSE )
DEMONSTRATING TO ME THAT THESE FOLKS RECOGNIZE THAT KIDS ARE
NOT COLOR BLIND. AND THAT HOW WE SHAPE THE
CURRICULUM IMPACTS OUR CHILDREN. SO THEN WHY AREN'T THEY
CONCERNED ABOUT HOW BLACK KIDS FEEL WHEN THEY'RE NOT
REPRESENTED IN THE CURRICULUM? ( APPLAUSE )
ABOUT ANOTHER ONE OF YOUR BOOKS, WHICH IS "ANTIRACIST BABY."
AND KETANJI BROWN JACKSON WAS SWORN IN TODAY AS THE FIRST
BLACK FEMALE SUPREME COURT JUSTICE.
( APPLAUSE ) UP EARLIER THIS YEAR IN THE
CONFIRMATION HEARINGS FOR JUSTICE JACKSON, WHO WAS SWORN
IN TODAY. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED.
TED CRUZ TALKED TO HER ABOUT A CURRICULUM OF A SCHOOL SHE WAS
ON THE BOARD OF, THAT INCLUDED IN THEIR LIBRARY AND SOME OF
THEIR TEACHINGS ONE OF YOUR BOOKS OR SOME OF YOUR BOOKS, ONE
OF THEM BEING "ANTIRACIST BABY." WHAT WAS IT LIKE SEEING YOUR
WORK BEING USED THAT WAY, SORT OF MISUSED AS A CUDGEL FOR
POLITICAL PERSONS IN SUPREME COURT CONFIRMATION HEARINGS?
>> I THINK IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME AT FIRST BECAUSE I DIDN'T
KNOW WHAT IMPACT IT WOULD HAVE ON HER ACTUAL CONFIRMATION.
>> Stephen: THAT YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING TO POSSIBLY
HURT HER CHANCES. >> EXACTLY.
SO THE FACT THAT JUSTICE JACKSON WAS SWORN IN TODAY, YOU KNOW,
WAS CERTAINLY-- I'M JUST EXCITED ABOUT IT AS EVERYONE ELSE,
PROBABLY EVEN MORE EXCITED ABOUT BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED.
BUT WHAT IT-- WHAT I ALSO THOUGHT ABOUT IS THAT, LIKE,
LITERALLY-- I SUSPECT THAT SENATOR CRUZ DIDN'T READ HOW TO
BE AN ANTIRACIST. IT'S A COUPLE OF HUNDRED PAGES.
( LAUGHTER ) BUT...
>> Stephen: I'M GUESSING HOLDING THIS UP IS NOT ONE OF
THE THINGS YOU DO TO BE AN ANTIRACIST.
>> NO, AND I WOULD JUST HOPE-- OKAY, IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO
READ THE ADULT BOOK, YOU CAN AT LEAST READ THE CHILDREN'S BOOK
BEFORE YOU ATTACK IT? ( APPLAUSE )
YEARS AGO, YOU TOLD ME "AMERICA HAS STAGE FOUR METASTATIC
RACISM, BUT I STILL BELIEVE THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE CAN FIGHT
AGAINST THE ODDS AND STILL HEAL ITSELF."
HAVE YOU SEEN ANY PROGRESS SINCE THEN?
AND WHAT ARE YOU PAYING ATTENTION TO PARTICULARLY GOING
FORWARD? >> SO IN CERTAIN WAYS, THERE ARE
PEOPLE, PARTICULARLY AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, AT THE STATE LEVEL
WHO ARE BUILDING ANTIRACIST ORGANIZATIONS, WHO ARE PUSHING
FOR EQUITABLE POLICIES. THEY'RE LARGELY BEHIND THE
SCENES OF HISTORY. BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU KNOW,
IN THE MAIN STREAM OF HISTORY, YOU CAN MAKE A CASE THAT THINGS
HAVE EVEN GOTTEN WORSE. BECAUSE AT LEAST IN 2020, WE
WERE DISCUSSING THINGS LIKE ENSURING THAT EVERYONE CAN VOTE
EASILY. AT LEAST WE WERE DISCUSSING,
IMAGINING AN AMERICA WHERE NOBODY WAS KILLED BY THE POLICE.
BUT NOW, WE'RE NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, AT A
NATIONAL LEVEL. BUT BEHIND THE SCENES, IN LOCAL
AREAS, PEOPLE ARE ORGANIZING, AND PEOPLE ARE FIGHTING IT, AND
PEOPLE ARE STRIVING TO CREATE AN EQUITABLE AND JUST WORLD.
SO THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR, AND I'M CONSTANTLY LOOKING FOR
ARE WE CHANGING POLICY? WHO'S GETTING INTO POSITIONS OF
POWER? AND ARE THESE POLICIES AND
POWERFUL PEOPLE COMMITTED TO EQUITY AND JUSTICE?
>> Stephen: WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
>> THANK YOU. >> Stephen: HIS BOOKS, "HOW TO
RAISE AN ANTIRACIST" AND "GOODNIGHT RACISM" ARE ON SALE
>> Stephen: THAT'S IT FOR "THE LATE SHOW."
HAPPY FOURTH OF JULY! JAMES CORDEN IS NEXT.
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