1 00:00:01,501 --> 00:00:02,535 DONALD TRUMP HELD A 2 00:00:02,602 --> 00:00:05,739 RALLY IN OHIO YESTERDAY, SOMETHING REALLY WEIRD AND 3 00:00:05,805 --> 00:00:09,209 DISTURBING HAPPENED. HAVE A LOOK AT SOME OF THESE 4 00:00:09,275 --> 00:00:13,380 IMAGES OF HIS SUPPORTERS HOLDING UP THEIR ARMS, HOLDING UP THEIR 5 00:00:13,446 --> 00:00:17,384 FINGERS. >> WHERE THAT SALUTE ACTUALLY 6 00:00:17,450 --> 00:00:21,254 COMES FROM, WE DO NOT KNOW. 7 00:00:25,425 --> 00:00:29,429 >> WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND A VERY SPECIAL HELLO TO 8 00:00:29,496 --> 00:00:35,635 YOUNGSTOWN, YOUNGSTOWN, OHIO. SHOULD I DO THE TWO-HOUR VERSION 9 00:00:35,702 --> 00:00:40,874 OF THIS SPEECH OR THE ONE-OUR VERSION? 10 00:00:41,408 --> 00:00:45,211 >> Announcer: IT'S "THE LATE SHOW WITH STEPHEN COLBERT." 11 00:00:45,278 --> 00:00:49,449 TONIGHT: >> THE GREAT BRITISH SEND-OFF! 12 00:00:49,516 --> 00:00:54,287 PLUS, STEPHEN WELCOMES: ANA de ARMAS 13 00:00:54,354 --> 00:00:58,458 KEN BURNS AND MUSICAL GUEST 14 00:00:58,525 --> 00:01:00,326 SUDAN ARCHIVES 15 00:01:02,162 --> 00:01:04,631 FEATURING LOUIS CATO AND THE LATE SHOW BAND. 16 00:01:10,503 --> 00:01:12,305 AND NOW, LIVE ON TAPE FROM THE ED SULLIVAN THEATER IN NEW YORK 17 00:01:12,372 --> 00:01:17,744 CITY, IT'S STEPHEN COLBERT! 18 00:01:18,378 --> 00:01:27,787 ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) >> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY! 19 00:01:27,854 --> 00:01:32,859 SPARKLES! I LIKE THAT. 20 00:01:32,926 --> 00:01:34,461 HELLO. HELLO. 21 00:01:34,527 --> 00:01:36,029 HELLO. HAPPY MONDAY. 22 00:01:36,095 --> 00:01:42,135 GOOD TO SEE YOU. HEY, EVERYBODY! 23 00:01:42,202 --> 00:01:52,312 UP THERE. ♪ ♪ ♪ 24 00:01:52,378 --> 00:01:58,451 PLEASE, HAVE A SEAT, EVERYBODY. WHAT'S UP, LOUIS? 25 00:01:58,518 --> 00:02:01,754 WELCOME TO "THE LATE SHOW." WELCOME TO "THE LATE SHOW." 26 00:02:01,821 --> 00:02:09,562 I AM YOUR HOST, STEPHEN COLBERT. RIGHT NOW, IN THE UNITED KINGDOM 27 00:02:09,629 --> 00:02:14,534 RIGHT NOW, IT IS ABOUT 4:35 A.M WHICH MEANS QUEEN ELIZABETH'S 28 00:02:14,601 --> 00:02:20,073 FUNERAL HAS ALMOST ENDED. AFTER 70 YEARS ON THE THRONE, 29 00:02:20,139 --> 00:02:22,509 SHE DESERVES A PROPER SEND-OFF. THE CEREMONY BEGAN THIS MORNING, 30 00:02:22,575 --> 00:02:25,278 WITH A BRITISH MILITARY ESCORT THROUGH LONDON TO THE WELLINGTON 31 00:02:25,345 --> 00:02:29,082 ARCH, WITH BRITISH SUBJECTS PAYING THEIR RESPECTS AS HER 32 00:02:29,148 --> 00:02:33,219 CASKET PASSED BY. A FITTING TRIBUTE FOR A BELOVED 33 00:02:33,286 --> 00:02:35,054 MONARCH, BUT PRETTY EMBARRASSING FOR WHOEVER FORGOT TO PUT THE 34 00:02:35,121 --> 00:02:37,390 CROWN INSIDE BEFORE THEY CLOSED THE LID. 35 00:02:37,457 --> 00:02:41,060 ( LAUGHTER ) "OH, DASH IT ALL. 36 00:02:41,127 --> 00:02:43,997 JUST STICK IT ON TOP. IT'S FINE! 37 00:02:44,063 --> 00:02:47,033 IT'S FINE!" ( LAUGHTER ) 38 00:02:47,100 --> 00:02:51,671 KING CHARLES AND SIBLINGS WALKING BEHIND THE COFFIN FOR 39 00:02:51,738 --> 00:02:54,607 NEARLY ONE AND A HALF HOURS. THAT'S NOT EASY. 40 00:02:54,674 --> 00:02:56,242 FOR YEARS, THE ROYAL FAMILY'S ONLY FORM OF EXERCISE HAS BEEN 41 00:02:56,309 --> 00:02:58,244 WALKING BACK STATEMENTS FROM ANDREW. 42 00:02:58,311 --> 00:03:05,051 ( LAUGHTER ) THE QUEEN'S-- 43 00:03:05,118 --> 00:03:09,923 ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) THERE, AND BECAUSE OF THEIR 44 00:03:09,989 --> 00:03:13,226 SHORT LEGS, THEY WERE ALL GIVEN FUNERAL SKATEBOARDS. 45 00:03:13,293 --> 00:03:21,200 ( LAUGHTER ) ALONG THE ROUTE TO HONOR THE 46 00:03:21,267 --> 00:03:28,107 LATE MONARCH, REQUIRING 22 MILES OF BARRIERS TO BE 47 00:03:28,174 --> 00:03:32,078 ERECTED IN CENTRAL LONDON ALONE. OF COURSE, THOSE IN THE CITY WHO 48 00:03:32,145 --> 00:03:36,215 WANTED TO KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE PROVEGZ WAS AT ANY ONE MOMENT 49 00:03:36,282 --> 00:03:40,219 ALONG THE ROUTE, COULD DOWNLOAD THE DOMINO'S 50 00:03:40,286 --> 00:03:45,091 MONARCH TRACKER. "C'MON, THEY'RE TAKING A LEFT AT 51 00:03:45,158 --> 00:03:46,225 THE WELLINGTON ARCH! THAT'S GONNA BE TWO MORE LIGHTS! 52 00:03:46,292 --> 00:03:51,531 SHE BETTER COME WITH FREE GARLIC KNOTS." 53 00:03:51,598 --> 00:03:55,368 THE PROCESSION... THE PROCESSION WAS LED INTO 54 00:03:55,435 --> 00:03:56,603 CHURCH BY OFFICERS IN ARMS WITH SOME PRETTY FANCY TITLES, 55 00:03:56,669 --> 00:04:04,243 INCLUDING-- AND THESE ARE ALL REAL-- THE MALTRAVERS HERALD 56 00:04:04,310 --> 00:04:08,081 EXTRAORDINARY, THE ROUGE DRAGON PURSUIVANT, AND 57 00:04:08,147 --> 00:04:12,952 THE LADY USHER OF THE BLACK ROD. ( LAUGHTER ) 58 00:04:13,019 --> 00:04:19,993 COINCIDENTALLY, ALSO THE U.K.'S NUMBER-ONE SEARCH ON PORNHUB. 59 00:04:20,059 --> 00:04:26,966 ( LAUGHTER ) ONE INTERESTING MOMENT WAS WHEN 60 00:04:27,033 --> 00:04:30,069 THE LORD CHAMBERLAIN CEREMONIALLY BROKE THE "WAND OF 61 00:04:30,136 --> 00:04:33,039 OFFICE," SIGNIFYING THE END OF THE QUEEN'S REIGN. 62 00:04:33,106 --> 00:04:37,110 SO, IF I KNOW MY ROYAL PROTOCOL, I BELIEVE KING CHARLES HAS TO GO 63 00:04:37,176 --> 00:04:41,214 PICK OUT A NEW WAND AT OLLIVANDER'S IN DIAGON ALLEY 64 00:04:41,280 --> 00:04:48,121 BEFORE HE CAN RETURN TO TO THE HEADMASTER OF HOGWARTS. 65 00:04:48,187 --> 00:04:49,389 IN OBSERVANCE OF THE MEMORIAL, THE U.K. GOVERNMENT DECLARED 66 00:04:49,455 --> 00:04:51,557 TODAY AN OFFICIAL HOLIDAY. MOST MOVIE THEATERS WERE ALSO 67 00:04:51,624 --> 00:04:55,395 CLOSED BUT OFFERED SCREENINGS OF THE QUEEN'S FUNERAL. 68 00:04:55,461 --> 00:05:00,533 I BELIEVE WE HAVE FOOTAGE-- IS THIS TRUE-- OF THE MOVING 69 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,036 OPENING REMARK. >> SOMEHOW, HEARTBREAK FEELS 70 00:05:03,102 --> 00:05:07,340 GOOD IN A PLACE LIKE THIS. >> Stephen: AMEN, NICOLE. 71 00:05:07,407 --> 00:05:09,008 OF COURSE, THE QUEEN'S FUNERAL WASN'T THE ONLY SOLEMN 72 00:05:09,075 --> 00:05:11,244 OBSERVANCE TODAY. SEPTEMBER 19 IS ALSO 73 00:05:11,310 --> 00:05:16,649 "INTERNATIONAL TALK LIKE A PIRATE DAY." 74 00:05:16,716 --> 00:05:23,523 SO WITH A HEAVY HEART AND THE GRAVEST OF RESPECTS, I SAY, 75 00:05:23,589 --> 00:05:24,557 "YARR... SHE WILL BE MISSED." ( APPLAUSE ) 76 00:05:24,624 --> 00:05:36,936 YARR. ( LAUGHTER ) 77 00:05:37,003 --> 00:05:43,976 LEADERS ATTENDED THE FUNERAL. EVENTUALLY, THEY ATTENDED. 78 00:05:44,043 --> 00:05:48,481 JOE BIDEN WAS FORCED TO WAIT FOR A SEAT AFTER HE ARRIVED LATE. 79 00:05:48,548 --> 00:05:51,417 THE PRESIDENT MAY HAVE BEEN DELAYED BECAUSE BEFORE HE LEFT 80 00:05:51,484 --> 00:05:56,422 HE SAT DOWN WITH AN INTERVIEW WITH "60 MINUTES" ZADDY SCOTT 81 00:05:56,489 --> 00:06:03,029 PELLEY AND MADE A SUDDEN ANNOUNCEMENT. 82 00:06:03,096 --> 00:06:07,867 >> IS THE PANDEMIC OVER? >> THE PANDEMIC IS OVER. 83 00:06:07,934 --> 00:06:09,635 WE STILL HAVE A PROBLEM WITH COVID. WE'RE STILL DOING A LOT 84 00:06:09,702 --> 00:06:12,705 OF WORK ON IT. IT'S-- BUT THE PANDEMIC IS OVER. 85 00:06:12,772 --> 00:06:16,642 >> Stephen: WHICH IS IT, JOE? "LORRAINE, THE AFFAIR IS OVER. 86 00:06:16,709 --> 00:06:19,645 I STILL HAVE SEX WITH BETHANY EVERY TUESDAY AT 6:00. BUT THE 87 00:06:19,712 --> 00:06:29,956 AFFAIR IS OVER! I GOTTA GO, IT'S 5:45." 88 00:06:30,022 --> 00:06:33,993 I'LL BE RIGHT BACK." ( APPLAUSE ) 89 00:06:34,060 --> 00:06:37,029 EVERYTHING IS ALL SUPER CHILL NOW? 90 00:06:37,096 --> 00:06:38,664 >> EVERYBODY SEEMS TO BE IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE. 91 00:06:38,731 --> 00:06:40,666 IF YOU NOTICE, NO ONE'S WEARING MASKS. 92 00:06:40,733 --> 00:06:43,002 >> Stephen: YEAH! NO ONE'S WEARING MASKS. 93 00:06:43,069 --> 00:06:55,047 RIGHT, AUDIENCE? ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) 94 00:06:55,114 --> 00:06:59,085 BIDEN ALSO GAVE PELLEY A LITTLE TOUR AND SHOWED HIM A FAVORITE 95 00:06:59,152 --> 00:07:03,189 KEEPSAKE: >> HE SHOWED US HIS OTHER 96 00:07:03,256 --> 00:07:07,026 INSPIRATION IN A CARTOON THAT HIS FATHER HAD FRAMED. 97 00:07:07,093 --> 00:07:12,031 IN IT, THE VIKING HAGAR CONFRONTS GOD AFTER A LIGHTENING 98 00:07:12,098 --> 00:07:19,872 STRIKE, A BLOW LIKE THOSE ENDURED BY THE PRESIDENT. 99 00:07:19,939 --> 00:07:21,407 >> AND HE'S LOOKING UP AND YOU SEE HE SAYS "WHY ME, GOD?" 100 00:07:21,474 --> 00:07:25,878 AND THE NEXT SCENE, A VOICE FROM HEAVEN, "WHY NOT?" 101 00:07:25,945 --> 00:07:31,117 ( LAUGHTER ) THROUGH THE NIGHT. 102 00:07:31,184 --> 00:07:35,021 A LITTLE-- IT'S A LITTLE WEIRD. OF COURSE, HE'S NOT THE FIRST 103 00:07:35,087 --> 00:07:37,890 PRESIDENT TO DRAW INSPIRATION FROM A SUNDAY COMIC. 104 00:07:37,957 --> 00:07:43,496 WHO CAN FORGET THE FAMOUS SIGN ON TRUMAN'S DESK: 105 00:07:43,563 --> 00:07:47,366 "THE BUCK STOPS... BECAUSE I FEEL FAT! 106 00:07:47,433 --> 00:07:52,038 IT'S CATHY. IT'S CATHY. 107 00:07:52,104 --> 00:07:54,540 THERE WAS ONE NOTABLE MOMENT IN THE INTERVIEW. 108 00:07:54,607 --> 00:07:56,175 SEE, USUALLY, WHEN IT COMES TO THE ONGOING TENSIONS BETWEEN 109 00:07:56,242 --> 00:07:58,411 CHINA AND TAIWAN, THE UNITED STATES MAINTAINS WHAT'S CALLED 110 00:07:58,477 --> 00:08:00,179 "STRATEGIC AMBIGUITY." BUT BIDEN WAS TACTICALLY PRETTY 111 00:08:00,246 --> 00:08:05,184 CLEAR: >> WHAT SHOULD CHINESE PRESIDENT 112 00:08:05,251 --> 00:08:07,887 XI KNOW ABOUT YOUR COMMITMENT TO TAIWAN? 113 00:08:07,954 --> 00:08:13,292 >> WE AGREE WITH WHAT WE SIGNED ONTO A LONG TIME AGO, THAT 114 00:08:13,359 --> 00:08:14,527 THERE'S ONE CHINA POLICY, AND TAIWAN MAKES THEIR OWN JUDGMENTS 115 00:08:14,594 --> 00:08:18,998 ABOUT THEIR INDEPENDENCE. >> BUT WOULD U.S. FORCES DEFEND 116 00:08:19,065 --> 00:08:23,002 THE ISLAND? >> YES, IF, IN FACT, THERE WAS 117 00:08:23,069 --> 00:08:25,872 AN UNPRECEDENTED ATTACK. >> SO UNLIKE UKRAINE, TO BE 118 00:08:25,938 --> 00:08:28,975 CLEAR, SIR, U.S. FORCES, U.S. MEN AND WOMEN WOULD DEFEND 119 00:08:29,041 --> 00:08:31,878 TAIWAN IN THE EVENT OF A CHINESE INVASION? 120 00:08:31,944 --> 00:08:38,384 >> YES. >> Stephen: OKAY, OKAY, CALM 121 00:08:38,451 --> 00:08:40,019 DOWN, CHINA. YOU KNOW WE BUY ALL THE iPHONES 122 00:08:40,086 --> 00:08:41,320 YOU MAKE, RIGHT? YOU WANT MORE "TRANSFORMERS" 123 00:08:41,387 --> 00:08:44,290 MOVIES? WE CAN MAKE MORE "TRANSFORMERS" 124 00:08:44,357 --> 00:08:48,961 MOVIES. WE GOT MICHAEL BAY CHAINED IN A 125 00:08:49,028 --> 00:08:50,830 BASEMENT, OKAY. WE'LL SEND YOU SHIA LABOUF. 126 00:08:50,897 --> 00:08:53,366 HE'S GOT SOME FREE TIME RIGHT NOW. 127 00:08:53,432 --> 00:09:00,439 OKAY, JUST CALM DOWN. YOU DON'T WANT TAIWAN. 128 00:09:00,506 --> 00:09:04,977 THERE'S AN UPDATE ABOUT WHO MIGHT WANT TO BE THE PRESIDENT 129 00:09:05,044 --> 00:09:07,079 NEXT: FLORIDA GOVERNOR, RON DeSANTIS 130 00:09:07,146 --> 00:09:14,820 ( AUDIENCE BOOING ) SEEN HERE WATCHING YOUR GRANDMA 131 00:09:14,887 --> 00:09:16,956 FALL INTO A DITCH. ( LAUGHTER ) 132 00:09:17,023 --> 00:09:21,594 LAST WEEK-- WOW! WOW! 133 00:09:21,661 --> 00:09:24,964 HE HAS BECOME FAMOUS! LAST WEEK, DESANTIS MADE 134 00:09:25,031 --> 00:09:27,366 HEADLINES FOR KIDNAPPING TWO PLANELOADS OF MIGRANTS AND 135 00:09:27,433 --> 00:09:29,101 FLYING THEM TO MARTHA'S VINEYARD. 136 00:09:29,168 --> 00:09:32,905 TURNS OUT, IT WAS WORSE THAN WE IMAGINED, BECAUSE HE ACTUALLY 137 00:09:32,972 --> 00:09:36,943 ABDUCTED THEM FROM TEXAS. FOR A GUY WHO ACTS SO CONCERNED 138 00:09:37,009 --> 00:09:42,248 ABOUT BORDERS, HE DOESN'T SEEM TO KNOW WHERE HIS STATE ENDS. 139 00:09:42,315 --> 00:09:46,852 SO WHY IS THE GOVERNOR-- WHY? WHY, I SAY. 140 00:09:46,919 --> 00:09:52,959 WHY? ( APPLAUSE ) 141 00:09:53,025 --> 00:09:56,796 FLORIDA SPENDING HIS TAXPAYERS' MONEY TO SNATCH ASYLUM-SEEKERS 142 00:09:56,862 --> 00:10:00,967 IN TEXAS? BECAUSE HE CAN READ THEIR 143 00:10:01,033 --> 00:10:04,971 MINDS. >> HOW DO YOU JUSTIFY USING THE 144 00:10:05,037 --> 00:10:07,974 MONEY IF THEY STARTED IN TEXAS? >> BECAUSE THEIR INTENT-- MOST 145 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:19,485 OF THEM WERE INTENDING TO COME TO FLORIDA. 146 00:10:19,552 --> 00:10:20,820 >> C'MON. NO ONE "INTENDS" TO GO TO 147 00:10:20,886 --> 00:10:23,956 FLORIDA. ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) 148 00:10:24,023 --> 00:10:32,798 YOU'RE FORCED TO GO THERE FOR TWO REASONS: YOU'RE ABOUT TO 149 00:10:32,865 --> 00:10:35,568 DIE AND WANT TO EAT PUDDING NEXT TO AN ALLIGATOR, OR YOU WANNA DO 150 00:10:35,634 --> 00:10:38,804 THAT THING AT DISNEY WHERE YOU CAN BUILD YOUR OWN LIGHTSABER. 151 00:10:38,871 --> 00:10:43,109 THEY HAVE FOUR AVAILABLE HILT STYLES! 152 00:10:43,175 --> 00:10:44,810 DeSANTIS WENT ON, EXPLAINING THAT YOU CAN'T EVER KNOW WHAT 153 00:10:44,877 --> 00:10:48,948 ASYLUM-SEEKERS MIGHT BE THINKING BECAUSE... 154 00:10:49,015 --> 00:10:51,484 CARS. >> IF YOU WANT TO DO IT 155 00:10:51,550 --> 00:10:54,954 EFFECTIVELY, YOU JUST CAN'T POLICE. 156 00:10:55,021 --> 00:10:58,357 IF YOU HAVE TWO PEOPLE IN A CAR, AND THERE'S A HUNDRED DIFFERENT 157 00:10:58,424 --> 00:11:00,593 CARS THAT COME IN A DIFFERENT WEEK BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE YOUR 158 00:11:00,659 --> 00:11:02,795 CAR OR ANYBODY ELSE. >> Stephen: OH, I REMEMBER THAT 159 00:11:02,862 --> 00:11:06,799 ONE FROM THE S.A.T.: "IF TWO PEOPLE ARE TRAVELING IN 160 00:11:06,866 --> 00:11:08,801 A CAR, AND THERE ARE A HUNDRED DIFFERENT CARS, HOW BIG OF AN 161 00:11:08,868 --> 00:11:23,749 A-HOLE IS RON DeSANTIS? ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) 162 00:11:23,816 --> 00:11:26,819 A-HOLE IS RON DeSANTIS? ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) 163 00:11:26,886 --> 00:11:32,825 MIGRANTS THEMSELVES. ACCORDING TO THEIR LAWYER, 164 00:11:32,892 --> 00:11:38,264 DeSANTIS'S PEOPLE LIED TO THEM TO LURE THEM ONTO THE PLANES. 165 00:11:38,330 --> 00:11:39,732 >> ACCOUNTS FROM THE MIGRANTS WHO ARRIVED LAST NIGHT MAKE IT 166 00:11:39,799 --> 00:11:43,102 CLEAR THEY WERE LIED TO AGAIN AND AGAIN. 167 00:11:43,169 --> 00:11:45,204 THEY WERE TOLD THERE WAS A SURPRISE PRESENT FOR THEM AND 168 00:11:45,271 --> 00:11:48,774 THAT THERE WOULD BE JOBS AND HOUSING AWAITING FOR THEM WHEN 169 00:11:48,841 --> 00:11:50,810 THEY ARRIVED. THIS WAS OBVIOUSLY A SADISTIC 170 00:11:50,876 --> 00:11:53,079 LIE. >> Stephen: YES, IMAGINE BEING 171 00:11:53,145 --> 00:11:59,885 TOLD THAT YOU'RE GETTING A SURPRISE PRESENT, AND THEN WHEN 172 00:11:59,952 --> 00:12:00,886 YOU LAND, SOMEONE HANDS YOU A BOWL OF CHOWDER. 173 00:12:00,953 --> 00:12:02,822 IT'S CLAMS IN HOT MILK. IT'S SADISTIC. 174 00:12:02,888 --> 00:12:11,530 CALL THE HAGUE. ( LAUGHTER ) 175 00:12:11,597 --> 00:12:14,767 THEMSELVES, THEY WERE APPROACHED AT A McDONALD'S, WHERE A 176 00:12:14,834 --> 00:12:16,969 WELL-DRESSED WOMAN WHO INTRODUCED HERSELF AS PERLA 177 00:12:17,036 --> 00:12:24,777 HANDED THEM GIFT CARDS. WAIT A SECOND, THEY WERE AT A 178 00:12:24,844 --> 00:12:26,812 McDONALD'S, AND THEY LOVE GIFT CARDS? 179 00:12:26,879 --> 00:12:32,818 THEY'RE ALREADY AMERICANS. ( APPLAUSE ) 180 00:12:32,885 --> 00:12:42,528 TEST IS JUST THAT, AND NAMING ONE FOOTBALL TEAM, 181 00:12:42,595 --> 00:12:46,132 LIKE THE NEW YORK... STRONG BOYS. 182 00:12:46,198 --> 00:12:47,666 OR THE KANSAS CITY BALLOONS. BEFORE BOARDING, THE MIGRANTS 183 00:12:47,733 --> 00:12:48,968 WERE TOLD THEY WERE GOING TO BOSTON AND WERE INFORMED MIDAIR 184 00:12:49,034 --> 00:12:50,703 THAT THEY WERE ACTUALLY GOING TO LAND IN MARTHA'S 185 00:12:50,769 --> 00:12:52,805 VINEYARD. DeSANTIS' GOONS DIDN'T DO MUCH 186 00:12:52,872 --> 00:12:56,275 TO HELP THEM PREPARE, AS THEIR LAWYER EXPLAINED: 187 00:12:56,342 --> 00:13:00,646 >> THEY WERE PROVIDED WITH A CARTOONISHLY SIMPLE MAP OF 188 00:13:00,713 --> 00:13:02,281 MARTHA'S VINEYARD, AND THE UNITED STATES. 189 00:13:02,348 --> 00:13:04,950 >> Stephen: NOW, THAT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A VERY USEFUL MAP, 190 00:13:05,017 --> 00:13:07,419 BUT THEY ALSO GAVE THEM A POSTER OF THE MILKY WAY THAT SAID, "YOU 191 00:13:07,486 --> 00:13:10,322 ARE HERE." ( LAUGHTER ) 192 00:13:10,389 --> 00:13:14,793 TONIGHT. ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) 193 00:13:14,860 --> 00:13:20,332 ANA de ARMAS AND KEN BURNS. BUT WHEN WE COME BACK, I'LL 194 00:13:20,399 --> 00:13:22,568 CELEBRATE HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH. 195 00:13:22,635 --> 00:13:24,970 STICK AROUND. ♪ ♪ ♪ 196 00:13:25,037 --> 00:13:25,337 ( APPLAUSE ) ♪ ♪ ♪ 197 00:14:04,310 --> 00:14:06,679 BAND. LOUIS CATO AND "THE LATE SHOW"" 198 00:14:06,745 --> 00:14:13,552 BAND RIGHT THERE. SHOW THEM SOME LOVE. 199 00:14:13,619 --> 00:14:16,555 I KNOW, LOUIS, I KNOW. >> Louis: STEPHEN! 200 00:14:16,622 --> 00:14:22,828 >> Stephen: I KNOW ON THE KIT OVER THERE WE HAVE JACK DEBEAU, 201 00:14:22,895 --> 00:14:24,463 SITTING IN FOR OUR GREND. WHO DO WE HAVE ON THE GUITAR. 202 00:14:24,530 --> 00:14:29,802 >> WE HAVE A BAND FAVORITE AND DEAR FRIEND, RANDY RUN UNION. 203 00:14:29,868 --> 00:14:34,406 >> Stephen: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 204 00:14:34,473 --> 00:14:36,775 YOU'VE GOT GUESTS AND I'VE GOT GUESTS, TOO. 205 00:14:36,842 --> 00:14:40,412 WE HAVE COMING UP IN A LITTLE BIT, THE GREAT KEN BURNS. 206 00:14:40,479 --> 00:14:43,015 >> Louis: THAT'S RIGHT. >> Stephen: WE'LL BE OUT HERE 207 00:14:43,082 --> 00:14:45,017 IN JUST A MOMENT, EDUCATE US ABOUT OUR OWN COUNTRY. 208 00:14:45,084 --> 00:14:48,220 AND FROM THE MOVIE "BLONDE," ANA de ARMAS IS GOING TO BE OUT 209 00:14:48,287 --> 00:14:50,689 HERE IN JUST A LITTLE BIT. ( APPLAUSE ) 210 00:14:50,756 --> 00:14:56,462 BOND MOVIE. SHE'S FROM "KNIVES OUT," AND AN 211 00:14:56,528 --> 00:14:58,964 AMAZING PORTRAYAL OF MARILYN MONROE. 212 00:14:59,031 --> 00:15:00,933 FANTASTIC. TURNS OUT, SAD LIFE. 213 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,035 >> Louis: OH, YEAH. SO IT SEEMS. 214 00:15:03,102 --> 00:15:09,642 >> Stephen: WHO KNEW? FOLKS... 215 00:15:09,708 --> 00:15:13,812 ( LAUGHTER ) WHEN WE COMMEMORATE THE 216 00:15:13,879 --> 00:15:16,715 IMPORTANCE AND INFLUENCE OF HISPANICS IN AMERICAN SOCIETY. 217 00:15:16,782 --> 00:15:26,025 ( APPLAUSE ) AND WHEN BRANDS COMMEMORATE HOW 218 00:15:26,091 --> 00:15:29,662 MUCH FRIDA KAHLO LOVED THE ALL-NEW 2023 KIA SORRENTO. 219 00:15:29,728 --> 00:15:34,366 AND AS MUCH AS LATINOS AND HISPANICS ARE BEING CELEBRATED, 220 00:15:34,433 --> 00:15:35,968 THEY'RE STILL NOT RECOGNIZED IN THE ONLY PLACE THAT MATTERS: 221 00:15:36,035 --> 00:15:39,972 TELEVISION. BECAUSE ACCORDING TO THE LATEST 222 00:15:40,039 --> 00:15:43,475 STUDIES, WHILE HOLLYWOOD IS MORE ETHNICALLY DIVERSE THAN 223 00:15:43,542 --> 00:15:46,278 EVER, HISPANIC AND LATINO CREATIVES REMAIN EXTREMELY 224 00:15:46,345 --> 00:15:49,715 UNDER-REPRESENTED. IN FACT, JUST LAST YEAR, DISNEY 225 00:15:49,782 --> 00:15:51,950 RELEASED A WHOLE SONG ABOUT HOW MUCH THEY DON'T WANT TO TALK 226 00:15:52,017 --> 00:15:55,120 ABOUT THEM. AND EVEN WHEN THEY ARE 227 00:15:55,187 --> 00:15:59,658 REPRESENTED, THEY TEND TO BE PIGEONHOLED. 228 00:15:59,725 --> 00:16:02,194 MORE THAN ONE-QUARTER OF HISPANIC AND LATINO CHARACTERS 229 00:16:02,261 --> 00:16:05,798 WERE DEPICTED AS CRIMINALS, AND 40% OF THOSE ARE DEPICTED 230 00:16:05,864 --> 00:16:08,367 COMMITTING VIOLENT CRIME. EVEN WORSE, NOW THAT "BETTER 231 00:16:08,434 --> 00:16:14,473 CALL SAUL" IS OVER, ALL THOSE ACTORS ARE UNEMPLOYED. 232 00:16:14,540 --> 00:16:17,576 WELL, THIS NEEDS TO CHANGE. AND CHANGE NOW. 233 00:16:17,643 --> 00:16:19,978 SO HERE TO DISCUSS THE LACK OF REPRESENTATION FOR HISPANICS ON 234 00:16:20,045 --> 00:16:23,816 TELEVISION IS AN HISPANIC ON TELEVISION, MY WRITER, FELIPE 235 00:16:23,882 --> 00:16:26,118 TORRES MEDINA. FELIPEA COME OUT HERE. 236 00:16:26,185 --> 00:16:27,953 FELIPE TORRES MEDINA, EVERYBODY. GOOD TO SEE YOU. 237 00:16:28,020 --> 00:16:31,523 >> HI, STEVE. >> Stephen: HAVE A SEAT. 238 00:16:31,590 --> 00:16:34,093 GOOD TO SEE YOU. ( APPLAUSE ) 239 00:16:34,159 --> 00:16:38,530 HI, STEPHEN. AND HOLA, HOLLYWOOD. 240 00:16:38,597 --> 00:16:39,965 >> Stephen: SO, FELIPE, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THIS LACK OF 241 00:16:40,032 --> 00:16:43,402 HISPANIC REPRESENTATION? >> WELL, TO PUT IT IN TERMS 242 00:16:43,469 --> 00:16:45,637 HOLLYWOOD WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND, IT'S NO BUENO. 243 00:16:45,704 --> 00:16:49,041 >> Stephen: SO WHAT SHOULD TELEVISION DO DIFFERENTLY? 244 00:16:49,108 --> 00:16:51,143 >> WELL, THIS SHOW'S OFF TO A GREAT START. 245 00:16:51,210 --> 00:16:52,978 YOU HAVE A HISPANIC ON SCREEN WITH YOU RIGHT NOW WHO'S NOT 246 00:16:53,045 --> 00:16:58,984 PLAYING A CRIMINAL. >> Stephen: HOW BRAVE OF ME. 247 00:16:59,051 --> 00:17:03,088 ( LAUGHTER ) YOU THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE AN 248 00:17:03,155 --> 00:17:07,126 EFFORT TO HIRE OTHER LATINO AND HISPANIC ACTORS. 249 00:17:07,192 --> 00:17:13,565 >> WHOA WHOA WHOA. "OTHER" LATINO ACTORS? 250 00:17:13,632 --> 00:17:15,067 WHAT'S WRONG WITH ME? I NEED THE WORK. 251 00:17:15,134 --> 00:17:16,969 >> Stephen: NO, YOU DON'T. YOU HAVE A FULL-TIME JOB HERE. 252 00:17:17,035 --> 00:17:19,138 >> PROGRESS IS INCREMENTAL, STEVE! 253 00:17:19,204 --> 00:17:22,408 AND I BELIEVE I CAN SINGLEHANDEDLY SOLVE THIS 254 00:17:22,474 --> 00:17:23,575 REPRESENTATION ISSUE WITH AN EXCITING NEW SYSTEM THAT I'VE 255 00:17:23,642 --> 00:17:25,644 BEEN WORKING ON. >> Stephen: DURING WORK HOURS AT 256 00:17:25,711 --> 00:17:27,946 MY SHOW? >> ROLL IT, JIM! 257 00:17:28,013 --> 00:17:31,817 >> ARE YOU A PRODUCER MAKING A MORE AND/OR A TV SHOW, AND YOU 258 00:17:31,884 --> 00:17:34,353 REALIZE YOU HAVE NO HISPANIC CHARACTERS? 259 00:17:34,420 --> 00:17:38,290 OR THAT ALL YOUR HISPANIC ROLES ARE DRUG DEALER NUMBER ONE, OR 260 00:17:38,357 --> 00:17:41,794 ANT MAN'S FRIEND FROM JAIL? FEAR NOT, BECAUSE I'VE RECORDED 261 00:17:41,860 --> 00:17:45,030 MYSELF AGAINST A GREEN SCREEN SAYING PHRASES THAT MAKE ME 262 00:17:45,097 --> 00:17:49,334 SOUND LIKE A GOOD PERSON SO YOU CAN EASILY INSERT SOME HISPANIC 263 00:17:49,401 --> 00:17:51,003 REPRESENTATION INTO YOUR SHOW OR A MOVIE. 264 00:17:51,069 --> 00:17:53,772 TAKE A LOOK. HEY, GUYS, JUST GOT BACK FROM MY 265 00:17:53,839 --> 00:17:58,110 JOB AS A BRAIN SURGEON. KNOCK, KNOCK. 266 00:17:58,177 --> 00:18:00,379 DID SOMEBODY SAY BIRTHDAY CAKE IN THE BREAK ROOM? 267 00:18:00,446 --> 00:18:02,114 I DID. IT WAS ME. 268 00:18:02,181 --> 00:18:06,752 I'M GAINFULLY EMPLOYED. I HAVE TAPED MYSELF IN HUNDREDS 269 00:18:06,819 --> 00:18:10,189 OF SCENARIOS THAT WILL FIT SEAMLESSLY INTO YOUR SHOW. 270 00:18:10,255 --> 00:18:12,224 TAKE A LOOK. >> I.D.? 271 00:18:12,291 --> 00:18:15,994 >> NOPE, NOTHING ON HIM. >> BOBBY, MAKE SURE YOU BAG IT 272 00:18:16,061 --> 00:18:18,697 ALL. >> HEY, GUYS, I BROUGHT BAGELS! 273 00:18:18,764 --> 00:18:21,066 >> PERFECTION. I ALSO OFFER A DISCOUNTED 274 00:18:21,133 --> 00:18:24,436 VERSION WHERE I HAVE NO LINES BUT JUST HANG IN THE BACKGROUND 275 00:18:24,503 --> 00:18:26,338 OF YOUR SHOW DRESSED LIKE AN ASTRONAUT. 276 00:18:26,405 --> 00:18:29,408 YOU CAN MAKE A WHOLE SHOW JUST USING CLIPS OF ME. 277 00:18:29,475 --> 00:18:30,509 I SET FIRE TO THIS HOUSE, BUT IT WASN'T ARSON. 278 00:18:30,576 --> 00:18:33,245 IT WAS AN ACCIDENT. I HOPE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT GETS 279 00:18:33,312 --> 00:18:37,883 HERE SOON. DID SOMEBODY SAY FIRE 280 00:18:37,950 --> 00:18:40,552 DEAPARTMENT! AND I BROUGHT MY DALMATIAN. 281 00:18:40,619 --> 00:18:44,189 SO ORDER YOUR KIT TODAY. IF YOU NEED HISPANIC 282 00:18:44,256 --> 00:18:46,492 REPRESENTATION, I'M YOUR MAN OR DOG. 283 00:18:46,558 --> 00:18:51,730 >> Stephen: IT'S YOURS IF YOU WANT IT, HOLLYWOOD. 284 00:18:51,797 --> 00:18:54,032 FELIPE TORRES MEDINA AND MY HISPANIC ASTRONAUT, 285 00:18:54,099 --> 00:18:57,503 WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH BLONDE STAR ANA de ARMAS 286 00:19:16,855 --> 00:19:18,490 ( APPLAUSE ) LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. 287 00:19:18,557 --> 00:19:25,731 FOLKS, YOU KNOW MY FIRST GUEST FROM FILMS SUCH AS "KNIVES OUT" 288 00:19:25,797 --> 00:19:29,768 AND "NO TIME TO DIE." SHE NOW STARS AS MARILYN MONROE 289 00:19:29,835 --> 00:19:37,743 IN "BLONDE." >> PLEASE COME. 290 00:19:37,809 --> 00:19:40,979 PLEASE COME. PLEASE. 291 00:19:41,046 --> 00:19:43,348 >> HE'S COMING. >> PLEASE COME. 292 00:19:43,415 --> 00:19:50,322 >> SHE'S COMING. SHE'S COMING. 293 00:19:50,389 --> 00:19:58,330 SHE'S ALMOST HERE. >> PLEASE COME. 294 00:19:58,397 --> 00:20:10,042 ♪ ♪ ♪ 295 00:20:20,218 --> 00:20:22,354 >> MARILYN! MARILYN! 296 00:20:22,421 --> 00:20:27,192 MARILYN! MARILYN! 297 00:20:27,259 --> 00:20:30,596 >> Stephen: PLEASE WELCOME ANA de ARMAS! 298 00:20:30,662 --> 00:20:45,544 ♪ ♪ ♪ ( APPLAUSE ) 299 00:20:45,611 --> 00:20:46,511 ♪ ♪ ♪ ( APPLAUSE ) 300 00:20:46,578 --> 00:20:53,018 >> Stephen: THANK YOU. LOVELY TO HAVE YOU ON. 301 00:20:53,085 --> 00:20:55,520 I'VE NEVER HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO YOU BEFORE. 302 00:20:55,587 --> 00:20:57,689 >> ME, EITHER. >> Stephen: BUT I'VE BEEN A 303 00:20:57,756 --> 00:20:59,958 LONG ADMIRERS OF YOURS. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. 304 00:21:00,025 --> 00:21:02,127 >> Stephen: THAT IS SUCH AN EXTRAORDINARY MOMENT. 305 00:21:02,194 --> 00:21:04,062 >> YES. >> Stephen: IN THAT MOVIE. 306 00:21:04,129 --> 00:21:07,566 AS I WAS SAYING TO YOU BACKSTAGE, WHO KNEW THAT ANA 307 00:21:07,633 --> 00:21:09,668 de ARMAS LOOKED LIKE MARILYN MONROE. 308 00:21:09,735 --> 00:21:10,969 >> NOT ME. >> Stephen: YOU DID NOT 309 00:21:11,036 --> 00:21:12,638 SUSPECT IT? THIS IS-- THIS IS ONE OF THE 310 00:21:12,704 --> 00:21:16,642 SCENES FROM THE MOVIE NEXT TO THE SORT OF ICONIC PHOTOGRAPH 311 00:21:16,708 --> 00:21:18,644 THAT INSPIRED IT. LOOK AT THE TWO OF YOU TOGETHER. 312 00:21:18,710 --> 00:21:20,646 >> YEAH. >> Stephen: AND THERE IS 313 00:21:20,712 --> 00:21:24,249 ACTUALLY-- THIS IS NOT SIMPLY, YOU KNOW, THE WAY YOU NATURALLY 314 00:21:24,316 --> 00:21:25,951 LOOK. THAT MOMENT RIGHT THERE, YOU 315 00:21:26,018 --> 00:21:28,587 ACTUALLY TURN INTO WHAT WE THINK OF AS MARILYN. 316 00:21:28,654 --> 00:21:32,457 >> RIGHT. >> Stephen: AND I'M JUST 317 00:21:32,524 --> 00:21:36,461 CURIOUS, IS THE CHARACTER IN THE MOVIE, NORMA JEANE-- IF I CAN 318 00:21:36,528 --> 00:21:41,566 CALL HER A CHARACTER EVEN THOUGH IT IS A BIO-PIC. 319 00:21:41,633 --> 00:21:44,169 NORMA JEANNE SAYS THERE IS NO MARILYN. 320 00:21:44,236 --> 00:21:45,437 IT'S NORMA JEANNE. >> YES. 321 00:21:45,504 --> 00:21:49,107 >> Stephen: BUT IT FEELS LIKE MARILYN ARRIVES IN THAT MOMENT. 322 00:21:49,174 --> 00:21:52,411 WHAT DO YOU THINK IS HAPPENING AS AN ACTRESS YOURSELF WHO HAS 323 00:21:52,477 --> 00:21:55,380 TO IS HAVE SOMETHING OF A PUBLIC PERSONA, I KNOWLEDGE. 324 00:21:55,447 --> 00:21:59,618 >> YEAH, I THINK WE ALL HAVE OUR PUBLIC SELF AND OUR PRIVATE 325 00:21:59,685 --> 00:22:01,286 SELF. WITH MARILYN, YOU KNOW, 326 00:22:01,353 --> 00:22:04,589 EVERYTHING GETS AMPLIFIED BECAUSE THE STAR THAT SHE IS. 327 00:22:04,656 --> 00:22:09,327 AND MARILYN, FOR HER, WAS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WAS 328 00:22:09,394 --> 00:22:13,298 SOMETHING THAT SHE KIND OF, LIKE, HAD TO TURN ON AND OFF 329 00:22:13,365 --> 00:22:19,371 WHENEVER SHE NEEDED IO. IT WAS KIND OF LIKE A... 330 00:22:19,438 --> 00:22:23,875 SOMETHING OF A SURVIVAL THING. >> Stephen:-- LIKE A COMIC 331 00:22:23,942 --> 00:22:26,712 MAKING JOKES SO THE FOOTBALL TEAM WON'T BEAT HIM UP, 332 00:22:26,778 --> 00:22:29,381 SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >> OKAY... 333 00:22:29,448 --> 00:22:31,883 >> Stephen: THAT WAS MY EXPERIENCE. 334 00:22:31,950 --> 00:22:33,351 THAT'S HOW I BECAME A COMEDIAN. >> YEAH. 335 00:22:33,418 --> 00:22:38,056 SO I THINK FOR THE MOST PART IN THE MOVIE, NORMA JEANE IS 336 00:22:38,123 --> 00:22:41,159 PRESENT, AND MARILYN COMES, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER SHE NEED. 337 00:22:41,226 --> 00:22:43,895 >> Stephen: NOW, THE DIRECTOR ANDREW DOMINIK SAID THAT THE 338 00:22:43,962 --> 00:22:47,399 MINUTE FROM, YOU KNOW, HE SAW YOU IN YOUR AUDITION, HE KNEW 339 00:22:47,466 --> 00:22:50,702 THAT YOU WOULD BE HIS MARILYN. DID YOU HAVE A SENSE-- 340 00:22:50,769 --> 00:22:53,004 >> TAKE THREE, HE SAID. >> Stephen: TAKE THREE. 341 00:22:53,071 --> 00:22:55,240 THE THIRD TIME YOU AUDITIONED, HE KNEW IT. 342 00:22:55,307 --> 00:22:57,008 >> YEAH. >> Stephen: DID YOU TALK OUT 343 00:22:57,075 --> 00:22:59,411 OF THERE THINKING THAT YOU HAD THE PART? 344 00:22:59,478 --> 00:23:03,215 >> AH, OH, MY GOSH, NO, I DON'T THINK I DID. 345 00:23:03,281 --> 00:23:07,886 I WAS JUST, LIKE, DRIVING DOWN HOLLYWOOD BOULEVARD WITH THIS 346 00:23:07,953 --> 00:23:11,623 VERY CHEAP BLOND WIG AND SOME KIND OF LIKE MAKEUP, AND I JUST 347 00:23:11,690 --> 00:23:13,892 HAD THE FEELING THAT I DID SOMETHING GOOD. 348 00:23:13,959 --> 00:23:16,728 >> Stephen: YES. >> BUT I WASN'T SURE. 349 00:23:16,795 --> 00:23:20,732 I-- I -- >> Stephen: YOU WERE LITERALLY 350 00:23:20,799 --> 00:23:25,370 GOING DOWN HOLLYWOOD BOULEVARD IN A CAR DRESSED LIKE MARILYN 351 00:23:25,437 --> 00:23:28,540 RON ROW. BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF MARILYNS 352 00:23:28,607 --> 00:23:30,842 ON HOLLYWOOD BOULEVARD. >> YES, I DID. 353 00:23:30,909 --> 00:23:32,444 >> Stephen: POSING FOR PHOTOGRAPHS. 354 00:23:32,511 --> 00:23:36,448 GROWING UP IN CUBA, YOU WERE 18? >> YES. 355 00:23:36,515 --> 00:23:38,049 >> Stephen: WHAT DID YOU KNOW ABOUT MARILYN? 356 00:23:38,116 --> 00:23:41,086 WHAT WAS YOUR EXPOSURE. SHE'S AN INTERNATIONAL ICON, BUT 357 00:23:41,153 --> 00:23:44,222 WHAT DID YOU KNOW ABOUT HER? >> I WASN'T SURE AND I ASKED MY 358 00:23:44,289 --> 00:23:48,193 MOM THE OTHER DAY IF SHE REMEMBERED MARILYN MOVIES ON TV 359 00:23:48,260 --> 00:23:51,797 AND SHE DEFINITELY DID. I GUESS AT THAT TIME I WASN'T 360 00:23:51,863 --> 00:23:53,598 AWARE THAT SHE WAS MARILYN, YOU KNOW. 361 00:23:53,665 --> 00:23:57,235 SO IT WAS LATER ON WHERE I STARTED WATCHING FILMS AFTER 362 00:23:57,302 --> 00:24:02,908 STUDYING IN DRAMA SCHOOL THAT I, YOU KNOW, REALIZED THIS IS 363 00:24:02,974 --> 00:24:04,810 MARILYN MONROE AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT SHE MEANT. 364 00:24:04,876 --> 00:24:08,680 >> Stephen: ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK GETS MISUNDERSTOOD 365 00:24:08,747 --> 00:24:12,984 ABOUT MARILYN MONROE, OR NORMA JEANE, IS THAT VERY INTELLIGENT, 366 00:24:13,051 --> 00:24:15,420 VERY THOUGHTFUL. >> YES. 367 00:24:15,487 --> 00:24:19,891 >> Stephen: SHE WAS VERY WELL INFORMED ON THE ROLES THAT SHE 368 00:24:19,958 --> 00:24:23,795 DID, AND HER-- THERE'S A WONDERFUL SCENE WHERE SHE SORT 369 00:24:23,862 --> 00:24:27,899 OF SURPRISES ARTHUR MILLER WITH HER INSIGHT, A CHARACTER INFORMS 370 00:24:27,966 --> 00:24:32,404 HIM ABOUT THE SCRIPT THAT HE ACTUALLY SHOWS HER THAT HE 371 00:24:32,470 --> 00:24:34,406 DOESN'T UNDERSTAND ABOUT HIS CHARACTERS. 372 00:24:34,472 --> 00:24:37,642 SORT OF FAMOUSLY SAID ABOUT HER THAT THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH HER 373 00:24:37,709 --> 00:24:43,448 BEING A DUMB BLOND IS WHAT SHE WASN'T DUMB AND SHE WASN'T A 374 00:24:43,515 --> 00:24:44,349 BLOND. >> THAT'S RIGHT. 375 00:24:44,416 --> 00:24:45,584 >> Stephen: THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH THAT. 376 00:24:45,650 --> 00:24:51,356 I WONDER, AS A YOUNG ACTRESS ON A RAPID, UPWARD TRAJECTORY, IN 377 00:24:51,423 --> 00:24:55,894 WHAT WE MIGHT CALL HOLLYWOOD IN THE WORLD, IS SOME OF HER STORY 378 00:24:55,961 --> 00:24:59,231 RESONANT FOR YOU, AS SOMEONE WHO IS BEAUTIFUL BUT NEEDS TO BE 379 00:24:59,297 --> 00:25:01,833 TKEN SERIOUSLY AS AN ARTIST? >> ABSOLUTELY. 380 00:25:01,900 --> 00:25:03,702 I THINK AT THE BEGINNING I THOUGHT-- I WAS WONDERING WHAT I 381 00:25:03,768 --> 00:25:07,472 WOULD HAVE IN COMMON WITH HER. AND TO MY SURPRISE, IT WAS RAY 382 00:25:07,539 --> 00:25:12,377 LOT MORE THAN I THOUGHT. AND JUST THIS OPPORTUNITY ALONE 383 00:25:12,444 --> 00:25:16,648 IS ALMOST CLOSE TO, YOU KNOW, A MIRACLE. 384 00:25:16,715 --> 00:25:19,885 A ROLE LIKE THIS WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO COME MY WAY. 385 00:25:19,951 --> 00:25:24,689 IT WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN. NOT JUST BECAUSE I'M LATINA AND 386 00:25:24,756 --> 00:25:27,926 CUBAN, IT JUST DOESN'T-- THEY DON'T EXIST JUST IN GENERAL. 387 00:25:27,993 --> 00:25:31,229 THIS IS SOMETHING VERY, VERY SPECIAL. 388 00:25:31,296 --> 00:25:34,165 SO THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO PLAY THIS PART WAS JUST, YOU 389 00:25:34,232 --> 00:25:36,935 KNOW, A DREAM. >> Stephen: WE HAVE TO TAKE A 390 00:25:37,002 --> 00:25:39,471 QUICK BREAK, BUT WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH MORE ANA de ARMAS, 391 00:25:39,537 --> 00:25:40,572 EVERYBODY, STICK AROUND. ♪ ♪ ♪ 392 00:25:52,617 --> 00:25:54,486 ( APPLAUSE ) WE'RE BACK HERE WITH THE STAR OF 393 00:25:54,552 --> 00:25:56,955 "BLONDE," ANA de ARMAS. I WANTED TO SHOW THIS. 394 00:25:57,022 --> 00:26:01,459 >> YEAH. I WAS. 395 00:26:01,526 --> 00:26:04,429 >> Stephen: THIS IS-- THIS IS YOU AT THE VENICE FILM FESTIVAL. 396 00:26:04,496 --> 00:26:08,500 AND THIS IS ACTUALLY VERY RESONANT OF ONE OF THE SCENES-- 397 00:26:08,566 --> 00:26:12,971 MANY OF THE SCENES, ACTUALLY, ON MARILYN BEING IN FRONT OF THE 398 00:26:13,038 --> 00:26:14,306 PAPARAZZI ON THE RED CARPET. WHAT IS THAT MOMENT LIKE FOR 399 00:26:14,372 --> 00:26:17,642 YOU? BECAUSE MOVIE STARS KNOW THAT 400 00:26:17,709 --> 00:26:20,812 PEOPLE LIKE ME DON'T UNDERSTAND, WHAT IT'S LIKE ON THE RED 401 00:26:20,879 --> 00:26:22,147 CARPET. WHAT DO YOU DO WITH YOURSELF 402 00:26:22,213 --> 00:26:24,215 WHEN ALL THAT ATTENTION IS FOCUSED ON YOU? 403 00:26:24,282 --> 00:26:27,619 >> I JUST TRY NOT TO TRIP. JUST, YOU KNOW... 404 00:26:27,686 --> 00:26:32,991 ( LAUGHTER ) IT TOGETHER. 405 00:26:33,058 --> 00:26:39,531 IT'S VERY EXCITING. IT'S VERY EMOTIONAL. 406 00:26:39,597 --> 00:26:42,734 YOU GET BACK TOGETHER WITH THE CAST. 407 00:26:42,801 --> 00:26:45,937 THIS MOVIE WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THREE YEARS TO COME OUT. 408 00:26:46,004 --> 00:26:48,873 >> Stephen: DID YOU START SHOOTING THIS BEFORE COVID? 409 00:26:48,940 --> 00:26:50,342 >> 2019. >> Stephen: WOW. 410 00:26:50,408 --> 00:26:52,711 >> YES, I KNOW. ( LAUGHTER ). 411 00:26:52,777 --> 00:26:57,549 14-MINUTE STANDING OVATION AT THE VENICE FILM FESTIVAL. 412 00:26:57,615 --> 00:27:00,752 WHAT DO YOU DO FOR THOSE 14 MINUTES? 413 00:27:00,819 --> 00:27:07,425 TO GIVE-- GIVE THE AUDIENCE SOM. THE MONOLOGUE I DID TONIGHT WAS 414 00:27:07,492 --> 00:27:10,161 13 MINUTES LONG. YOU STOOD THERE IN FRONT OF 415 00:27:10,228 --> 00:27:13,365 APPLAUSE FOR 14 MINUTES. WHAT DO YOU DO WITH YOUR HANDS? 416 00:27:13,431 --> 00:27:17,769 >> WELL, YOU HAVE TO TAKE BREAKS CLAPPING, BECAUSE THEY DO HURT. 417 00:27:17,836 --> 00:27:20,005 IT WAS VERY EMOTIONAL. YOU'RE THERE WITH THE AUDIENCE, 418 00:27:20,071 --> 00:27:22,674 AND THE BEST THING THAT CAN HAPPEN IS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU 419 00:27:22,741 --> 00:27:25,410 GET THAT REACTION. YO JUST DON'T EXPECT THAT IT'S 420 00:27:25,477 --> 00:27:29,581 GOING TO BE THAT LONG. BUT THE AUDIENCE DOESN'T LIE. 421 00:27:29,647 --> 00:27:32,350 IT'S JUST HAPPENING FOR REAL. THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE FEELING. 422 00:27:32,417 --> 00:27:35,086 AND IT'S VERY-- IT'S VERY MOVING. 423 00:27:35,153 --> 00:27:37,756 AND, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE THERE WITH ALL THESE PEOPLE. 424 00:27:37,822 --> 00:27:40,692 MY FAMILY WAS THERE, MY MOM WAS THERE, MY CLOSEST FRIENDS. 425 00:27:40,759 --> 00:27:42,594 AND IT'S A MOMENT THAT'S BEAUTIFUL AND YOU SHARE THIS, 426 00:27:42,660 --> 00:27:44,696 YOU KNOW, THE FIRST AUDIENCE EVER TO WATCH THIS FILM. 427 00:27:44,763 --> 00:27:53,071 AND IT'S KIND OF LIKE A RELIEF AND AT THE SAME TIME IT'S 428 00:27:53,138 --> 00:27:54,873 NERVE-RACKING BECAUSE NOW EVERYONE IS GOING TO JUDGE IT 429 00:27:54,939 --> 00:27:56,775 AND SEE IT, YOU KNOW. >> Stephen: HOW LONG DID YOU 430 00:27:56,841 --> 00:28:00,745 WORK ON IT? >> UH, YOU MEAN THE SHOOT? 431 00:28:00,812 --> 00:28:03,581 >> Stephen: LIKE, THE ACTUAL-- HOW LONG WERE YOU ACTUALLY 432 00:28:03,648 --> 00:28:04,949 PLAYING THE CHARACTER? >> NINE WEEKS. 433 00:28:05,016 --> 00:28:08,086 >> Stephen: THAT'S A FAIRLY QUICK SHOOT. 434 00:28:08,153 --> 00:28:09,988 >> IT WAS HORRIBLE. ( LAUGHTER ) 435 00:28:10,055 --> 00:28:15,026 A VERY TAXING ROLE FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET. 436 00:28:15,093 --> 00:28:18,930 >> NINE WEEKS IS NOTHING CONSIDERING EVERYTHING WE 437 00:28:18,997 --> 00:28:20,165 COVERED IN THE MOVIE. >> Stephen: YES. 438 00:28:20,231 --> 00:28:23,301 AND WERE YOU ABLE TO TAKE A BREAK AFTER THAT? 439 00:28:23,368 --> 00:28:24,803 BECAUSE IT MUST HAVE BEEN EXHAUSTING? 440 00:28:24,869 --> 00:28:28,473 >> IT WAS EXHAUSTING. I DID HAVE NO-- NO BREAKS. 441 00:28:28,540 --> 00:28:30,141 >> Stephen: WHAT DID YOU SHOOT NEXT? 442 00:28:30,208 --> 00:28:31,910 >> WE FINISHED SHOOTING THIS MOVIE ON A FRIDAY. 443 00:28:31,976 --> 00:28:36,848 AND I GOT ON A PLANE AND STARTED SHOOTING JAMES BOND ON MONDAY. 444 00:28:36,915 --> 00:28:40,552 >> Stephen: "NO TIME TO DIE." >> YES. 445 00:28:40,618 --> 00:28:43,788 >> Stephen: I WAS IN PALOMA TWO DAYS LATER WHICH WAS, YOU 446 00:28:43,855 --> 00:28:48,293 KNOW, PROBABLY MY THERAPY. AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL BECAUSE THIS 447 00:28:48,359 --> 00:28:54,866 CHARACTER WAS SO BUBBLY AND SO, YOU KNOW, BAD-ASS, AND A 448 00:28:54,933 --> 00:28:57,235 COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ENERGY. BUT IF YOU REALLY LOOK AT IT, 449 00:28:57,302 --> 00:28:58,937 THERE IS SOME KIND OF MAYORAL NIN HER. 450 00:28:59,003 --> 00:29:05,577 AND I THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS-- OVERLAPPING THERE, AND 451 00:29:05,643 --> 00:29:07,345 SEE-THROUGH, YOU KNOW, WAS REALLY CHARMING. 452 00:29:07,412 --> 00:29:10,482 >> Stephen: I'M GOING TO WATCH RIGHT NOW TO LOOK FOR A LITTLE 453 00:29:10,548 --> 00:29:12,083 MARILYN IN THERE. IT WAS SO LOVELY TO MEET YOU. 454 00:29:12,150 --> 00:29:14,586 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> Stephen: CONGRATULATIONS ON 455 00:29:14,652 --> 00:29:19,624 A BEAUTIFUL PERFORMANCE. >> THANK YOU. 456 00:29:19,691 --> 00:29:20,859 >> Stephen: "BLONDE" IS IN SELECT THEATERS NOW AND ON 457 00:29:20,925 --> 00:29:22,160 NETFLIX SEPTEMBER 28. ANA de ARMAS, EVERYBODY! 458 00:29:22,227 --> 00:29:24,863 WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH KEN BURNS. 459 00:29:24,929 --> 00:29:25,363 ♪ ♪ ♪ ( APPLAUSE ) 460 00:29:37,876 --> 00:29:39,077 ( APPLAUSE ) >> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY! 461 00:29:39,144 --> 00:29:47,519 WELCOME BACK TO "THE LATE SHOW." FOLKS, MY NEXT GUEST IS AN EMMY 462 00:29:47,585 --> 00:29:49,988 AND PEABODY AWARD-WINNING DIRECTOR WHO HAS BEEN MAKING 463 00:29:50,054 --> 00:29:51,356 DOCUMENTARIES FOR THE PAST 40 YEARS. 464 00:29:51,422 --> 00:29:56,094 PLEASE WELCOME BACK TO "THE LATE SHOW," KEN BURNS! 465 00:29:56,161 --> 00:30:11,042 ♪ ♪ ♪ ( APPLAUSE ) 466 00:30:11,109 --> 00:30:14,045 ♪ ♪ ♪ ( APPLAUSE ) 467 00:30:14,112 --> 00:30:16,648 >> Stephen: NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN. 468 00:30:16,714 --> 00:30:19,551 >> GOOD TO SEE YOU. >> Stephen: WE ALWAYS LEARN SO 469 00:30:19,617 --> 00:30:23,054 MUCH ABOUT OUR OWN COUNTRY FROM YOU, KEN BURNS. 470 00:30:23,121 --> 00:30:25,390 WE DO. WE LEARN A LOT ABOUT OUR NATION, 471 00:30:25,456 --> 00:30:29,027 AND I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE THINGS I'VE LEARNED ABOUT MY 472 00:30:29,093 --> 00:30:30,461 NATION. NOT EVERYTHING WE LEARN IS A 473 00:30:30,528 --> 00:30:32,297 HAPPY STORY ABOUT THE YUT. >> NO, IT IS NOT. 474 00:30:32,363 --> 00:30:36,801 >> Stephen: AND YOUR LATEST DOCUMENT IS "THE U.S. AND THE 475 00:30:36,868 --> 00:30:39,404 HOLOCAUST." WHICH IS HEARTBREAKING. 476 00:30:39,470 --> 00:30:43,541 BUT FASCINATING FILM. WHAT DID YOU LEARN IN MAKING 477 00:30:43,608 --> 00:30:53,418 THIS FILM ABOUT THE UNITED SATES AND OUR RESPONSE TO THE 478 00:30:53,484 --> 00:30:56,187 HOLOCAUST AND-- PHEW. >> YEAH, WE FAILED. 479 00:30:56,254 --> 00:31:01,392 THAT'S THE SIMPLE ONE, TWO-WORD ANSWER. 480 00:31:01,459 --> 00:31:04,062 WE THINK WE'RE SEPARATED BY AN OCEAN AND CONTINENT FROM WHAT 481 00:31:04,128 --> 00:31:06,097 HAPPENED AND THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON. 482 00:31:06,164 --> 00:31:15,240 WE WERE INTERESTED IN LOOKING IN, SARAH BOTSTEIN AND LYNN 483 00:31:15,306 --> 00:31:18,409 NOVIK, WE WERE INTERESTED IN LOOKING AT WHAT WE DIDN'T DO AND 484 00:31:18,476 --> 00:31:21,045 WHAT WE SHOULD HAVE DONE. THE UNITED STATES, LET'S MAKE IT 485 00:31:21,112 --> 00:31:23,915 CLEAR, IS NOT RESPONSIBLE IN THE HOLOCAUST IN ANY WAY. 486 00:31:23,982 --> 00:31:28,019 IT IS NOT EXPLICIT. HOWEVER, WE LET IN 225,000 487 00:31:28,086 --> 00:31:30,388 IMMIGRANTS, MORE THAN ANY OTHER-- I MEAN, REFUGEES-- MORE 488 00:31:30,455 --> 00:31:33,791 THAN ANY OTHER SOVEREIGN NATION. BUT WE COULD HAVE LET IN FIVE 489 00:31:33,858 --> 00:31:36,761 TIMES OR 10 TIMES AS MANY AND WE DIDN'T. 490 00:31:36,828 --> 00:31:40,231 AND THE REASON WHY WE DIDN'T IS BECAUSE AMERICA HAD BEEN FOR A 491 00:31:40,298 --> 00:31:47,372 LONG TIME HUGELY ANTI-SEMITIC. IT HAD BEEN RACIST AND 492 00:31:47,438 --> 00:31:49,607 ANTI-IMMIGRANT, XENOPHOBIC, NATIVIST-- WHATEVER YOU WANT TO 493 00:31:49,674 --> 00:31:51,209 CALL IT. SOUND FAMILIAR? 494 00:31:51,276 --> 00:31:56,648 WE BELIEVED IN EUGENICS WHICH WAS A PSEUDOSCIENCE ATTEMPTING A 495 00:31:56,714 --> 00:31:59,584 HIERARCHY OF RACISM AND ETHNICITY S. 496 00:31:59,651 --> 00:32:01,152 >> Stephen: SKULL SHAPE, STUFF LIKE THAT. 497 00:32:01,219 --> 00:32:03,054 >> EXACTLY. THERE'S ONLY ONE RACE. 498 00:32:03,121 --> 00:32:06,924 IT'S THE HUMAN RACE. SO WHEN WE WERE FACED IN THE 499 00:32:06,991 --> 00:32:09,994 1930s AND ISOLATIONISM AND A DEPRESSION, WHICH MEANT YOU 500 00:32:10,061 --> 00:32:12,797 DIDN'T WANT SOMEBODY TAKING FOOD OFF YOUR TABLE, WE JUST DIDN'T 501 00:32:12,864 --> 00:32:15,600 DO WHAT WE COULD HAVE DONE, AT EVERY LEVEL. 502 00:32:15,667 --> 00:32:20,038 NOT JUST PRESIDENT ROOSEVELT WHO OFTEN GETS A LOT OF BLAME. 503 00:32:20,104 --> 00:32:24,642 HE ADDED MORE YOUS TO HIS ADMINISTRATION THAN ANY OTHER 504 00:32:24,709 --> 00:32:26,544 PRESIDENT. HIS SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY 505 00:32:26,611 --> 00:32:29,647 WAS A YOU AND A NEIGHBOR AND FRIEND. 506 00:32:29,714 --> 00:32:30,782 BUT HE KNEW WHAT-- IT WAS HUGELY ANTI-SEMITIC. 507 00:32:30,848 --> 00:32:32,917 >> Stephen: THAT WAS THE CONTEXT ABOUT WHAT THE UNITED 508 00:32:32,984 --> 00:32:36,788 STATES HAD AND WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN GERMANY AND EASTERN 509 00:32:36,854 --> 00:32:40,358 EUROPE. WHAT DID WE KNOW? 510 00:32:40,425 --> 00:32:45,263 WHAT'S THE EARLIEST POINT AT WHICH WE KNEW THERE WAS A-- 511 00:32:45,330 --> 00:32:46,164 QUOTE, UNQUOTE-- FINAL SOLUTION GOING ON? 512 00:32:46,230 --> 00:32:50,134 >> HITLER TAKES OFFICE IN JANUARY OF 1933. 513 00:32:50,201 --> 00:32:54,305 THERE WERE 3,000 ARTICLES ABOUT THE MISTREATMENT OF JEWS JUST IN 514 00:32:54,372 --> 00:32:57,008 1933. WE GOT THE NEWS PRETTY QUICKLY. 515 00:32:57,075 --> 00:33:01,312 A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE STATE DEPARTMENT SLOW-WALKED THE NEWS, 516 00:33:01,379 --> 00:33:02,847 WOULDN'T PUT IT OUT. OTHERS GOT OUT. 517 00:33:02,914 --> 00:33:04,749 SO PEOPLE JUST DIDN'T BELIEVE IT. 518 00:33:04,816 --> 00:33:08,953 IT WAS TREATED AS A WAR RUMOR. OR WHEN THEY DID IT, THEY 519 00:33:09,020 --> 00:33:13,291 THOUGHT, MAYBE EARLY ON, MAYBE THE JEWS DESERVED IT. 520 00:33:13,358 --> 00:33:14,692 OR THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR PROBLEMS. 521 00:33:14,759 --> 00:33:18,996 AND THEN WHEN IT GOT REALLY BAD, THEY SAID THIS IS TERRIBLE, THIS 522 00:33:19,063 --> 00:33:21,199 IS A HORRIBLE THING. BUT I CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S A 523 00:33:21,265 --> 00:33:23,601 MILLION PEOPLE. I BET IT WAS THREE MILLION OR 524 00:33:23,668 --> 00:33:26,371 SO. OR "I STILL DON'T WANT TO LET 525 00:33:26,437 --> 00:33:27,505 ANYBODY ELSE IN. THE. 526 00:33:27,572 --> 00:33:29,741 EVEN AFTER ALL THE PICTURES CAME BACK FROM THE LIBERATED 527 00:33:29,807 --> 00:33:33,945 CONCENTRATION CAMPS, ONLY 5% OF AMERICANS WANTED TO LET IN MORE 528 00:33:34,011 --> 00:33:35,913 REFUGEES. AND THAT'S ON US. 529 00:33:35,980 --> 00:33:39,817 WE FAILED IN HUMANITY'S DARKEST MOMENT TO BE WHAT WE HAD ALWAYS 530 00:33:39,884 --> 00:33:43,621 CLAIMED TO BE-- THIS BEACON OF LIBERTY, THE HOME OF IMMIGRANTS, 531 00:33:43,688 --> 00:33:46,057 A NATION OF IMMIGRANTS-- WHICH WE ARE AS WELL. 532 00:33:46,124 --> 00:33:51,929 BUT WE ARE ALSO EQUALLY DRAWN TO THE IDEA OF DEMONIZING 533 00:33:51,996 --> 00:33:53,498 IMMIGRANTS AND MAKING THEM THE OTHER. 534 00:33:53,564 --> 00:33:55,533 >> Stephen: WHAT DID HITLER-- HE WAS INTERESTED IN AMERICAN 535 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:56,801 HISTORY. >> YES. 536 00:33:56,868 --> 00:34:00,104 >> Stephen: WHAT DID HE GLEAN FROM OUR HISTORY THAT HE SAW AS 537 00:34:00,171 --> 00:34:02,106 AN EXAMPLE? >> GOT ANY SCOTCH? 538 00:34:02,173 --> 00:34:04,876 >> Stephen: I DO, ACTUALLY. I'VE GOT A LOT OF SCOTCH. 539 00:34:04,942 --> 00:34:11,048 ( LAUGHTER ) ( APPLAUSE ) 540 00:34:11,115 --> 00:34:19,690 STEPHEN, IT'S BAD. HE ADMIRED THE WAY WE HAD 541 00:34:19,757 --> 00:34:24,629 SUPPRESSED AND MURDERED NATIVE AMERICANS AND ISOLATED THEM INTO 542 00:34:24,695 --> 00:34:26,697 CAGES. HE CALLED RESERVATIONS THAT. 543 00:34:26,764 --> 00:34:30,935 EY ADMIRED OUR 1924 JOHNSON-REID IMMIGRATION ACT. 544 00:34:31,002 --> 00:34:33,738 WHICH AFTER HAVING OPEN BORDERS FROM THE 1870s TO 1920, WHERE 545 00:34:33,805 --> 00:34:37,208 MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF PEOPLE CAME IN, INCLUDING MILLIONS OF 546 00:34:37,275 --> 00:34:40,978 JEWS, AND NEW YORK CITY HAD ONE-QUARTER OF NEW YORK CITY'S 547 00:34:41,045 --> 00:34:44,248 POPULATION WAS JEWISH, AND MORE JEWS THAN ANY OTHER CITY ON 548 00:34:44,315 --> 00:34:45,550 EARTH. THEY SLAMMED THE DOOR. 549 00:34:45,616 --> 00:34:49,487 THEY SAID ONLY THOSE NORDIC, PROTESTANT, WHITE COUNTRIES 550 00:34:49,554 --> 00:34:52,290 COULD HAVE A BIG QUOTA -- >> Stephen: OUR PREVIOUS 551 00:34:52,356 --> 00:34:55,760 PRESIDENT JUST SAID, "WHY NOT MORE PEOPLE FROM NORWAY?" 552 00:34:55,827 --> 00:34:57,762 >> YEAH. >> Stephen: IS THERE RESONANCE 553 00:34:57,829 --> 00:35:00,431 FROM THESE LESSONS, UNFORTUNATELY, TO WHAT IS 554 00:35:00,498 --> 00:35:02,467 HAPPENING NOW? BECAUSE YOUR STORY BRINGS US UP 555 00:35:02,533 --> 00:35:04,235 TO THE PRESENT. IT DOESN'T END IN THE PAST. 556 00:35:04,302 --> 00:35:07,305 >> YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE FELT-- BECAUSE WE 557 00:35:07,371 --> 00:35:11,676 SET THE TABLE WITH ALL THE STUFF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, HITLER 558 00:35:11,742 --> 00:35:13,611 ADMIRED THAT ACT. THE GERMAN JURISTS CAME TO THE 559 00:35:13,678 --> 00:35:17,815 UNITED STATES TO STUDY OUR JIM CROW LAWS SO THEY THEY COULD 560 00:35:17,882 --> 00:35:21,586 FASHION IN 1935 THE ANTI-DISCRIMINATORY LAWS AGAINST 561 00:35:21,652 --> 00:35:24,655 THE JEWS THERE. AND WHEN WE PROTESTED AS A 562 00:35:24,722 --> 00:35:29,327 NATION, THEY LOOKED AT US AND SAID, AS THE HISTORIAN PETER 563 00:35:29,393 --> 00:35:32,330 HAYES IN OUR FILM SAYS,s, MISSISSIPPI. 564 00:35:32,396 --> 00:35:34,265 THE. MEANING YOU TREAT THESE PEOPLE 565 00:35:34,332 --> 00:35:36,868 AS INFERIOR. WE THINK THESE PEOPLE ARE 566 00:35:36,934 --> 00:35:39,337 INFERIOR. SO DON'T TELL US HOW TO 567 00:35:39,403 --> 00:35:42,206 CONSTRUCT OUR BUSINESS. THIS IS THE FIRST FILM IF IN 568 00:35:42,273 --> 00:35:46,711 WHICH WOO WE TALKED HERE ABOUT MARK TWINE SAID, HISTORY DOESN'T 569 00:35:46,777 --> 00:35:50,414 REPEAT ITSELF BUT IT RHYMES. WHEN WE BEGAN THIS PROJECT IN 570 00:35:50,481 --> 00:35:53,251 2015, IN A DIFFERENT KIND OF AMERICA, THIS RHYMES ALL 571 00:35:53,317 --> 00:35:54,652 HISTORY. EVERY FILM I HAVE MADE HAS 572 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,188 RHYMED IN SOME WAYS. BY THE TIME WE WERE FINISHING 573 00:35:57,255 --> 00:36:00,491 IT, IT WAS RHYMING IN EVERY OTHER SENTENCE IN A WAY THAT 574 00:36:00,558 --> 00:36:04,128 REQUIRED US TO HAVE A DISMOUNT. JUST IMPRESSIONISTIC IN THE LAST 575 00:36:04,195 --> 00:36:09,600 FEW MINUTES OF THE FILM THAT BRINGS US UP THROUGH GEORGE 576 00:36:09,667 --> 00:36:15,373 LINCOLN ROCKWELL, THE DYLAN ROOF WHO WAS ANTI-JEWISH AND 577 00:36:15,439 --> 00:36:17,975 ANTI-CATHOLIC, IN ADDITION TO BEING ANTIBLACK, WHO MURDERED IN 578 00:36:18,042 --> 00:36:25,750 MOTHER EMANUEL IN CHARLESTON. THE "UNITE THE RIGHT" RALLY IN 579 00:36:25,816 --> 00:36:27,785 CHARLOTTESVILLE. JEWS WILL NOT REPLACE US. 580 00:36:27,852 --> 00:36:31,422 THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL ANXIETY AND THE REASON FOR CLOSING THE 581 00:36:31,489 --> 00:36:35,693 DOORS, THE WORRY THAT WE WOULD BE OUTBRED BY THESE FOREIGNERS 582 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,229 EVEN THOUGH STRENGTH -- >> Stephen: HOW DO AMERICANS 583 00:36:38,296 --> 00:36:43,000 RISE ABOVE THESE NATIVIST, DARK, SOMETIMES VIOLENT IMPULSES? 584 00:36:43,067 --> 00:36:46,537 >> YOU TELL STORIES ABOUT IT. YOU BRING OUT THE FACTS. 585 00:36:46,604 --> 00:36:51,509 YOU BRING THEM TO LIGHT. YOU TELL THE STORIES, AS 586 00:36:51,576 --> 00:36:54,011 DIFFICULT AS THEY MAY BE, AS UNCOMFORTABLE AS THEY MAY BE. 587 00:36:54,078 --> 00:36:56,714 >> Stephen: KEN, THANK YOU FOR TELLING THOSE STORIES. 588 00:36:56,781 --> 00:37:01,385 "THE U.S. AND THE HOLOCAUST" IS AVAILABLE NOW ON PBS. 589 00:37:01,452 --> 00:37:03,554 KEN BURNS, EVERYBODY! WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH A 590 00:37:03,621 --> 00:37:06,090 PERFORMANCE BY SUDAN ARCHIVES. ♪ ♪ ♪ 591 00:37:24,141 --> 00:37:26,243 >> Stephen: MAKING HER TELEVISION DEBUT WITH "SELFISH 592 00:37:26,310 --> 00:37:30,915 SOUL" FROM HER ALBUM, "NATURAL BROWN PROM QUEEN," SUDAN 593 00:37:30,982 --> 00:37:38,356 ARCHIVES. ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) 594 00:37:38,422 --> 00:37:53,304 ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ 595 00:37:53,371 --> 00:37:54,405 ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ 596 00:37:54,472 --> 00:37:57,274 ♪ IF I CUT MY HAIR, HOPE I GROW IT LONG 597 00:37:57,341 --> 00:37:59,543 ♪ BACK LONG BACK TIME LIKE WAY BEFORE 598 00:37:59,610 --> 00:38:01,746 ♪ IF I WEAR IT STRAIGHT, WILL THEY LIKE ME MORE? 599 00:38:01,812 --> 00:38:04,048 ♪ LIKE THOSE GIRLS ON FRONT COVERS 600 00:38:04,115 --> 00:38:06,217 ♪ LONG HAIR MAKE 'EM STAY LITTLE LONGER 601 00:38:06,283 --> 00:38:08,386 ♪ STAY HAIR, STAY STRAIGHT THOUGH WE FEEL ASHAMED 602 00:38:08,452 --> 00:38:12,223 ♪ BY THE CURLS WAVES AND NATURAL THINGS 603 00:38:12,289 --> 00:38:14,392 CURLS WAVES AND NATURAL THINGS ♪ OKAY, ONE TIME IF I GROW IT 604 00:38:14,458 --> 00:38:16,260 LONG ♪ AM I GOOD ENOUGH, AM I GOOD 605 00:38:16,327 --> 00:38:18,329 ENOUGH? ♪ ABOUT TIME I EMBRACE MYSELF 606 00:38:18,396 --> 00:38:26,404 AND SOUL TIME I FEED MY SELFISH SOUL 607 00:38:26,470 --> 00:38:30,408 ♪ IT'S BEEN SO LONG SINCE I HAD A SEW-IN 608 00:38:30,474 --> 00:38:34,245 WITH A FRONTAL AND SOME COLOR ♪ IF I CUT IT ALL OFF 609 00:38:34,311 --> 00:38:42,753 WILL IT EVEN GROW? ♪ WOULD IT GROW BACK REAL LONG 610 00:38:42,820 --> 00:38:44,021 GOTTA PROVE THEM ALL WRONG ♪ I DON'T WANT NO STRUGGLES. 611 00:38:44,088 --> 00:38:46,657 I DON'T WANT NO FEARS ♪ I DON'T WANT NO STRUGGLES. 612 00:38:46,724 --> 00:38:47,725 I DON'T WANT NO FEARS ♪ I DON'T WANT NO STRUGGLES. 613 00:38:47,792 --> 00:38:49,160 I DON'T WANT NO ♪ DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO YOU 614 00:38:49,226 --> 00:38:50,227 WHY I CUT IT OFF? ♪ OKAY, ONE TIME IF I GROW IT 615 00:38:50,294 --> 00:38:52,263 LONG ♪ AM I GOOD ENOUGH, AM I GOOD 616 00:38:52,329 --> 00:38:54,398 ENOUGH? ♪ ABOUT TIME I EMBRACE MYSELF 617 00:38:54,465 --> 00:39:02,406 AND SOUL TIME I FEED MY SELFISH SOUL 618 00:39:02,473 --> 00:39:03,741 JIMMY MAC WAS HIS NAME ♪ AND HE TOLD ME THAT HE WANNA 619 00:39:03,808 --> 00:39:05,609 GO AND RIDE ♪ I WAS WORRIED ABOUT THE 620 00:39:05,676 --> 00:39:08,379 CLIP-INS IN MY HAIR COMING OUT COULDN'T EVEN CATCH A VIBE 621 00:39:08,446 --> 00:39:09,647 ♪ HOPE HE STILL LOVES ME IF HE KNOWS THAT THIS WEAVE IS GETTIN' 622 00:39:09,714 --> 00:39:10,448 OLD ♪ THE EXTENSION THAT I HAD TO 623 00:39:10,514 --> 00:39:12,717 OFFER ♪ HE SAID, "BABY, DON'T YOU 624 00:39:12,783 --> 00:39:13,984 BOTHER BUT WHEN IT'S GONE JUST DON'T 625 00:39:14,051 --> 00:39:16,153 ACT SURPRISED" ♪ 'CAUSE I DON'T WANT NO 626 00:39:16,220 --> 00:39:17,822 STRUGGLES, I DON'T WANT NO FEARS ♪ I DON'T WANT NO STRUGGLES. 627 00:39:17,888 --> 00:39:20,458 I DON'T WANT NO FEARS ♪ I DON'T WANT NO STRUGGLES. 628 00:39:20,524 --> 00:39:22,259 I DON'T WANT NO ♪ DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO YOU 629 00:39:22,326 --> 00:39:24,695 WHY I CUT IT OFF? ♪ OKAY, ONE TIME IF I GROW IT 630 00:39:24,762 --> 00:39:26,397 LONG ♪ AM I GOOD ENOUGH? 631 00:39:26,464 --> 00:39:29,533 AM I GOOD ENOUGH? ♪ ABOUT TIME I EMBRACE MYSELF 632 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,803 AND SOUL ♪ TIME I FEED MY SELFISH SOUL 633 00:39:32,870 --> 00:39:47,752 ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ 634 00:39:47,818 --> 00:39:50,488 ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ 635 00:39:52,890 --> 00:39:54,759 HEY, OKAY. HEY, OKAY 636 00:39:54,825 --> 00:40:00,664 ♪ CUT IT OFF. OKAY, OKAY 637 00:40:00,731 --> 00:40:06,237 ♪ CUT IT OFF OKAY, OKAY ♪ CUT IT OFF. 638 00:40:06,303 --> 00:40:18,382 OKAY, HEY, OKAY. CUTTACUT IT OFF ♪ 639 00:40:18,449 --> 00:40:19,316 ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) EVERYBODY! 640 00:40:19,383 --> 00:40:23,287 THAT'S IT FOR "THE LATE SHOW." GOOD NIGHT! 641 00:40:23,354 --> 00:40:24,121 COME ON!