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[elephants rumbling]

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[splashing]

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[elephant trumpeting]

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[helicopter roaring]

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[tense music]

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[gun firing]

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[elephants trumpeting]

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Jambo [Hello]

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[spear thudding]
[elephants trumpeting]

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[peaceful music]

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[harp glissando]

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- [Narrator] Our
ancestors originally came

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from the tropical rainforest.

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So, the tropical
rainforest in a sense,

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is our Garden of Eden.
And the gardeners

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in the Garden of Eden are the
megafauna: the orangutans,

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the elephants, and
occasionally the rhinoceros,

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believe it or not.

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The fate of tropical rainforest

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is inextricably tied to the
fate of these megafauna.

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[elephant trumpeting]

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So, do we need rainforests?

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Of course we need rainforests.

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We need oxygen,
we need to breath.

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It's a cliché to say
by saving orangutans

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or by saving elephants,
we are saving ourselves.

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But it's actually true if
we look at the longterm.

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Humans are very bad at
looking at the long term.

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We want it now.

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- Yes, it's always very
difficult in our terribly busy,

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frantic, and dangerous world
to focus on non-human issues.

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But nevertheless there is
a massive crisis going on

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with wildlife around the world.

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And it's not just the
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that we're talking about.

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[cub growling]

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There are a ton
of smaller species

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that are also under
massive threat and species

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that we don't favor
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[hyena cackling]

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Evolution, or evolutionary
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and certainly
creationists might say,

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and certainly religions might
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is the pinnacle of evolution.

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[baboon screeching]

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Well, if it is, we are one

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of the stupidest
species on the planet.

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Because I cannot think
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that goes around intentionally
trashing its own home.

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So, if we're the
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then if there is a God,
He made a real mistake.

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- Once you understand there's
no sharp line dividing us

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from the rest of the animal
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of the animal kingdom and
not as we arrogantly suppose,

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somehow separated, you
then can ask yourself,

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"Well, okay how is it
that we're different?"

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because we are different.

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And I think it's the
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of the human intellect.

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And so how come the most
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to ever walk the planet is
wiping out the other life forms,

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is destroying ecosystems...

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Because this, in the end,

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is going to lead
to our destruction.

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So, we destroy these
animals at our own peril

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without thinking of the
future of our own species.

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The real cause of wildlife crime

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is corruption, and
corruption, it's greed.

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The real conflict
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many times government
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in the heart of organized crime,

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that's basically activating
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across many countries.

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The illegal wildlife trade is
not rooted in poverty at all.

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In fact, poverty has nothing
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It is in fact, the
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that actually are the
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- These are people that
have made reputations

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and made a very, very, very
strong impact in the world

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and they've made that impact
in a very violent way.

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They've killed people, they've
executed entire families,

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they've bribed officials,
they've put people in places

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where they can make decisions

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that impact policies
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You're not talking about you
know, your run of the mill,

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poor poacher who's running
around with a 1947 rifle.

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You're talking about
extremely powerful,

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extremely influential
people in positions of power

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that simply snap their fingers
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- [Director] Why are
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in there with drones?

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- I thought you wanted
to hear the answer

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to the other question which
was a much better question.

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- [Director] Okay,
so the question is,

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are we losing this war?

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- Yes, right now
we certainly are.

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And it's not just that
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the rate at which we are
losing the war is increasing.

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There is evidence coming
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of the gravity of the situation.

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It is more serious than anyone
can express standing here.

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It's certainly easier to
say, well, it isn't that bad.

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I'm looking at a small portion.

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My job is to look
at the big scale.

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I've worked in the
field in parks.

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I've worked in countries.

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I've worked on regions.

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Now I look at bigger picture

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and that bigger picture is
really serious right now.

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- My interest in organized
crime came from years

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of being a journalist,
working in conflict areas

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and unstable areas of the world.

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And what I found was
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whatever the so-called
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was predicated on
crime and corruption.

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The U.S. government
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if we go after the networks
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of organized crime,
instead of trying

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to fight specific types
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There are far fewer people
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and move large amounts
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than there are poachers sneaking
into parks across Africa.

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If we can stop the money,
make it harder for them

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to move money through the
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we're going to have more
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And not just the ivory problem,

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but the human trafficking
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the departure of
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and developing countries.

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There are all sorts of
treaties that already exist

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that prohibit the extraction
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illegally from Africa.

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We could be applying those
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And we need to think about this

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as not just a
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but a national security issues,

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an international security issue.

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The people who are moving ivory,

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the people who are
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are the same people who
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from Bangkok to
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the same people who
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into consumer markets.

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It's the people who
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to move illegal products

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through the global
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And it's the people
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to launder illicit money

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through the global
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And so what the United States,

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and pretty much every
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is they stovepipe all of
those different commodities

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and they give different
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to deal with those
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So, we will have a department
that handles wildlife,

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we'll have a department
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and a department that
handles terrorism.

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And the bad guys are
all working together.

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You know, you never
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in Afghanistan who says,

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"I'm not giving that Al Qaeda
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"He doesn't have the
authorities to carry my dope."

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No, they're all
working together.

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- It's a wide range of
different kinds of groups.

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Some are groups that
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as terrorist organizations
by the U.S. government.

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Some are rebel militias, some
are organized crime networks

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and some are actually
state actors,

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military or police units
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of natural resources in the
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- One of the biggest and
least discussed problems

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in the world today is that
the illicit extraction

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of resources from most
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is about 10 times what
they get in foreign aid.

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So you're never going to
get ahead of this problem

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until we can stop it.

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If we can stop the money

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we're gonna have more impact
in shutting this down.

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We'll be able to have
much more of an impact

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against these violent
networks if we go after them

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for their totality of
their activities for drugs,

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for wildlife, for
people, for guns.

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I hear these going in Africa
as cheap as 75 dollars.

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A better quality one may
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depending on what they are.

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- These are not
hunting guns, right?

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- No, they're the best thing
ever made for shooting people.

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Serious, that's
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They're for shooting people.

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It's not a competition gun.

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It's not really
intended for hunting.

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It's really probably one
of the most efficient guns

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ever made for
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That's why they are so
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- This rhino horn here
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I don't remember if this
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I don't know that much
about them, but alls I know

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is this right here
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is worth about 650,000 dollars.

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That amazes me to think
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that equivalates to is somewhere
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When you got $650,000 dollars
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and you can buy a bunch
of these, how much terror

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do you think this
whole game drives?

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It's about a weapon
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and then used to rob a bank.

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It's about entire
local communities,
poor local communities,

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getting exploited by
traffickers that arrive

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and offer five,
six years salary.

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Of course, they kill an elephant
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in Africa; they will do
it here in Los Angeles.

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- What we got here is
about a four-foot tusk

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that came off a 20
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This thing is worth
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You can see how that
drives the problem.

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- So when we're talking
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of those species, I'm
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of individual suffering,
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and highly emotional beings.

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And to me this is
absolutely terrible.

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The sale of illegally
killed ivory is being used

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to actually enable terrorists
groups to buy the weapons.

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The terrible massacre
in Nairobi was funded

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by the sale of ivory.

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So, the whole
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into something that's
very frightening.

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It's not only impacting
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but it's also impacting
the security of nations.

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It's incredibly important
that people wake up

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and understand exactly
what's going on

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and exactly the price in
suffering that's being caused.

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[gun firing]

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- The terrorist attack

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on the shopping mall in Nairobi

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was a big eye opener
for a lot of officials

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in the defense department, in
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in the law
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that actually there was
something to this link

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between wildlife
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Al Shabaab could be defeated,
but I think the United States

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and its partners
could be smarter

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about combating the message
that these organizations give.

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They shouldn't be engaging
in extortion, kidnapping,

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all of that is haram,
forbidden by Islam.

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Nobody takes them on according
to the precepts of Islam.

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These guys who call
themselves Mullahs,

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who call themselves
Holy Warriors, are
actually just crooks.

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[tense music]

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- You got Boko Haram,
you got ISIS over there,

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you got all these
different people

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that are running
child slavery, drugs,

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whatever they're doing.

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I mean you got child soldiers,

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they're just brainwashed
to shoot anybody

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that gets in their path.

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The pictures I've seen is like,

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I mean the elephants are,
trust me, that's bad,

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but when you see what they
do to children it's like, uh.

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- In the Democratic
Republic of Congo,

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5.4 million people
were dead as a result

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of war related
causes as of 2007.

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And the fighting has
continued since then.

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Joseph Kony has been
active as the leader

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of the Lord's Resistance
Army for a very long time.

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Hundreds of thousands of
children have been abducted,

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enslaved, forced to
do hard labor, raped,

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kept as sexual slaves.

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And we know that one of
their most lucrative sources

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of income is trading ivory.

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They trade pieces of ivory
for things like, boots,

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and bullets, boxes of
bullets for a piece of ivory,

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carried by someone who's
forced to be a porter,

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for hundreds of
miles in some cases.

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Some of the products
that come out

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of this organized crime
networks are found

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in your cell phones and
your laptop computers.

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But this is a personal issue

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because we are buying
products that contain minerals

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that come from this region.

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- Every one of us in
the developed world

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has some kind of mobile,
electronic device in our pocket.

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And our mobile phones and
laptops need tantalum.

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And one of the places on earth
where you can find tantalum

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is underground in the
Democratic Republic of Congo.

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And you have militias
fighting over bits of land

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that they could control the
mining in and use the money

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to buy guns, which has resulted
in millions of people dying,

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and the decline in apes,
elephants, and hardwoods.

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And in the illegal mines that
are controlled by rebels,

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they feed the
workers on bushmeat.

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If you're buying
tantalum from the DRC,

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you are helping to fund armed
militias who are raping women

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and using child labor to dig
the stuff out of the ground.

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- Animals belong in the parks.

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We don't have any connection
between us and animals.

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Animals are for tourists;
they're not for us.

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Yes?

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It has been like that
for a very long time.

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But things are changing;
people have started

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to understand we need to
protect these animals.

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The biggest problem we have

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is our local people
don't understand.

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They have grown up with
these animals in the past.

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They have lived with them,
they used to kill buffaloes

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and rhinos and leave
some to survive.

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But with the exit of the
colonial, when they left,

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so they decided let's have
these animals in the parks.

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The communities around
those animals felt

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it is not up to us, it's
not our responsibility

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to take care of these animals,
it's up to the government

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of the day to do it.

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So, even if they get killed,

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even if you have poachers
coming in to kill animals,

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it's up to them.

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So there's this disconnect.

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People really don't
really understand,

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why there's such big fuss
about killing animals.

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It's not a big deal;
it's not a very big deal.

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Three decades ago we had 24,000
rhinos, now we have 1041.

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That tells you that a child
who is, my four year old son,

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will not have a chance of seeing
these rhino in the next 15,

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20 years if something
is not done.

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But most of the killings
that are taking place,

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most of the rhinos that die,
die inside the protected area.

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KWS knows who is killing
rhinos in this country.

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They have admitted in the
past that rhinos are dying

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and some of their own
personnel are involved.

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What you can't get your
head around is how poachers

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can manage to get
into national parks.

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Last year for instance, for
instance, January last year,

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we had a family of 12 elephants
killed on the same spot.

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[somber music]

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Twelve elephants, among
them a very small calf.

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The poachers managed to walk
away with 22 ivory tusks.

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You can't do it, 10
of you cannot do it.

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22 ivory tusks,
10 armed poachers,

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with their guns on their backs.

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You have aerial surveillance;
you have ground boots,

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boots on the ground
from KWS rangers,

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and reinforcements
from other agencies.

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And these people get away?

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Something is very wrong,
something extremely wrong

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in this country, yes.

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[fire crackling]

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- It's about tax evasion,
it's about funds to terrorism

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and militias, it's
about money laundering.

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So, the human toll is big.

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So, the responsibility
of China is also that.

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We should start talking to
the Chinese also about that.

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Because behind an ivory
trinket bought in China,

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there is someone, not something,

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someone on the ground, dead.

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[dramatic music]

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You have basically two fronts,

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you have the African front
and the Chinese front, okay?

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The African front is
complicated, it's complex.

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You have a lot of players,
all trafficking with ivory,

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with rhino horn, with
other wildlife products.

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The second front is China.

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Right now, the single
most important factor

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behind elephant poaching is the
legal ivory market in China.

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It's very simple to understand;
it's not rocket science,

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it's not happening on the
moon, it's happening in China.

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So, the legal ivory market
in China is the reason

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why you have a
huge illegal trade

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and illegal underground
market in China.

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It's acting like a
giant vacuum cleaner,

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sucking up tons and tons of
ivory from all over Africa.

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That's very easy to understand.

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And the solution also is
very easy to understand.

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They have to simply phase out

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the legal ivory
market, that's it.

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- In China, Vietnam
some of these rich guys

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grind this stuff up and snort
it and make tea out of it.

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I don't know what
they do, but they seem

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to think it makes
their dick hard.

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You know what I mean?

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That's what they
make Viagra for.

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I mean, come on.

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You need to kill a fucking
rhino to get your dick hard?

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You got a bigger
problem than you think.

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- When we look at the commercial
exploitation of wildlife,

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we always look at
the whole chain,

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from poaching to
trafficking to demand.

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We focus on all three major
links on that trade chain.

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This legal market is providing
cover for illegal trade

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and it also confuse
the consumers

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and makes them feel
it's okay to buy ivory.

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- [Narrator] In 2007 a
CITES one-off ivory sale

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created an insatiable
Asian demand

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which drove this global
poaching epidemic.

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- We found that
70% of the Chinese

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do not know ivory comes
from dead elephants.

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In Chinese, elephant tusk
is called elephant teeth.

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And so when it's,
teeth people thought

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that you know a person's
teeth can fall off

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and a person
doesn't have to die.

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- You know, I go to
China every year.

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I have been for
many, many years.

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And I didn't realize that
so many of the Chinese

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believe that elephants
shed their tusks

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just like stags
shed their antlers.

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The Chinese people are beginning

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to wake up to the
seriousness of the situation.

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It's important that
people understand
that the United States

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has been the second
largest importer

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of illegal ivory after China.

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- It's not enough that
we're pointing fingers

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at the Chinese.

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We should look at ourselves,
and what we've done

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to Africa and what we
owe the African continent

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for what we've taken from them.

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It's something that
we as Americans

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have to take
responsibility for, too.

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It's not just Chinese who
are suddenly buying all

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of the ivory.

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We have a long history
of doing it ourselves,

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starting in the 1800s

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when we imported tusks
for what purpose?

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We had elephants killed in
order to make billiard balls,

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the ivory keys for
pianos, for knick-knacks.

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Millions of elephants
died for our purposes.

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- [Narrator] Every elephant
tusk represents the death

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or enslavement of five Africans.

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It is simply incredible
that, because ivory

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is required, the rich heart of
Africa should be laid waste.

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That populations,
tribes and nations

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should be utterly destroyed.

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Whom after all does this
bloody seizure enrich?

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- When firearms came to Africa,

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that's when elephant
numbers started to plummet.

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It was thought that then there

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were probably 10 million
elephants in Africa,

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now there are fewer
than half a million.

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So, we've lost 95% of the
workforce of the forest,

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that recycles nutrients,
disperses seeds

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and creates the
forests of tomorrow.

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- We're running out of time.

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There was room for
experimentation.

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There is no more
margin for error.

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Things are so desperate
in so many places,

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that either we fix the
problem in the coming days,

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weeks and months, and not
even years, or it very likely,

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in many places in
Africa will be too late.

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[dramatic music]

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- I think a lot of non-profits

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overwhelm their audience
with doom and gloom.

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And so I think collectively
we need to find a better way

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to disseminate this information.

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And again get people
inspired and empowered.

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That's why I think
you still have

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to look for those gems of hope.

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And that's one of the reasons
why, right now I'm trying

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to focus more on the
survivors of these poaching.

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So, what a lot of people
don't recognize and realize

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is that not all
poached animals die.

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So, we actually have
a lot of survivors

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on the continent of Africa.

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Orphaned rhinos,
orphaned elephants,

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there's a whole new
generation of animals

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being raised that have
gone through traumas.

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[peaceful music]

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- So, the one in
front is Mashariki,

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followed by Lakipi, Valdo,
Moisha, Emilio, Pundani & Aruba.

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Well, all these babies
have become orphans

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due to different reasons.

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Some of them, their mothers
have been killed by poachers,

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due to increase in
the trade on ivory,

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which is a real, real
problem at the moment.

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'Cause normally,
they're not found alone,

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they should be with
their families.

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And some of them some of
them have become orphans

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from human wildlife conflict,

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which means they've
been separated

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from their mothers
by human beings.

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- There is an unofficial
high mortality rate

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among orphans in Africa,
elephant orphans.

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00:27:34,565 --> 00:27:37,046
They're using these
homemade recipes

486
00:27:37,133 --> 00:27:40,397
that no one has really properly
researched or documented.

487
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But I think there's
more to the equation.

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I think it may be
sort of a combination

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of medical, emotional
needs, social needs.

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When you have a
survivor of a poaching,

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whether it's an orphan
who's witnessed his

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or her mother killed or
an attempted poaching.

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Sometimes an animal will
have a traumatic wound

494
00:28:02,028 --> 00:28:02,942
that they survive.

495
00:28:05,379 --> 00:28:09,949
What we see is that they
have these emotional,

496
00:28:10,036 --> 00:28:11,298
behavioral profiles similar

497
00:28:11,385 --> 00:28:13,474
to post-traumatic
stress disorder.

498
00:28:13,561 --> 00:28:16,869
And oftentimes if we don't
immediately intervene

499
00:28:16,956 --> 00:28:19,959
and sort of act as
their mother figure,

500
00:28:20,046 --> 00:28:22,091
they give up the will to live.

501
00:28:22,178 --> 00:28:26,487
So, you don't always lose
orphans due to a medical issue,

502
00:28:26,574 --> 00:28:29,229
oftentimes it can just
be an emotional issue.

503
00:28:31,971 --> 00:28:33,189
- There's been an
increase in terms

504
00:28:33,276 --> 00:28:35,017
of the number of orphans

505
00:28:35,104 --> 00:28:37,628
that are coming to us, which
means poaching is increasing,

506
00:28:37,716 --> 00:28:39,500
but you know poaching
is not the only reason

507
00:28:39,587 --> 00:28:40,544
that is causing
them to be orphans,

508
00:28:40,631 --> 00:28:42,372
but it is the main reason.

509
00:28:42,459 --> 00:28:44,853
Others are orphans from
human-wildlife conflict,

510
00:28:44,940 --> 00:28:48,335
they have been separated from
the families by human beings,

511
00:28:48,422 --> 00:28:50,250
due to increase in
the population of man,

512
00:28:50,337 --> 00:28:52,513
compared to the space
or size of land.

513
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,168
And that causes the
fights every now and then.

514
00:28:57,431 --> 00:28:58,954
[speaking in Swahili]

515
00:28:59,041 --> 00:29:00,695
- The poachers want
the big elephants

516
00:29:00,782 --> 00:29:02,349
with the tusks.

517
00:29:02,436 --> 00:29:04,438
Usually those are the
eldest animals, the females,

518
00:29:06,048 --> 00:29:08,529
the matriarchs, the
grandmothers, who
know where to go

519
00:29:08,616 --> 00:29:11,010
and what to do
and how to behave.

520
00:29:11,097 --> 00:29:13,099
So, with them gone,
when they're taken out

521
00:29:13,186 --> 00:29:15,449
of the population,
what do you have left?

522
00:29:15,536 --> 00:29:16,885
You have teenagers.

523
00:29:16,972 --> 00:29:19,670
You have, just imagine
if in your town,

524
00:29:19,758 --> 00:29:22,891
if all the adults suddenly
vanished and all you had left

525
00:29:22,978 --> 00:29:25,894
were the teenagers of the high
school or the junior high.

526
00:29:25,981 --> 00:29:28,201
How well do you think
society would operate?

527
00:29:36,818 --> 00:29:38,864
- You know, saving the
world is not a part time job

528
00:29:38,951 --> 00:29:40,343
and it is not without risk.

529
00:29:42,084 --> 00:29:43,346
We've been seeing things
going in the wrong direction

530
00:29:43,433 --> 00:29:45,000
in most places for many years.

531
00:29:45,087 --> 00:29:47,394
And it's just not an issue
that you can quantify

532
00:29:47,481 --> 00:29:49,135
with wildlife surveys.

533
00:29:49,222 --> 00:29:53,487
What we've been seeing is the
collapse of the way of life

534
00:29:53,574 --> 00:29:56,316
that has served
Africa for millennia,

535
00:29:56,403 --> 00:29:59,319
the relationship between people
and the natural resources.

536
00:30:01,538 --> 00:30:02,888
- You've got to save every one

537
00:30:02,975 --> 00:30:04,367
of these animals
in the rainforest.

538
00:30:04,454 --> 00:30:06,630
You got to save the
habitat. What we've seen

539
00:30:06,717 --> 00:30:08,545
in a lot of these places that
saving the habitat itself

540
00:30:08,632 --> 00:30:12,680
is not enough because poaching
is so strong in some places

541
00:30:12,767 --> 00:30:15,248
that it just cleans
out whatever species

542
00:30:15,335 --> 00:30:17,250
are out there in the forest.

543
00:30:17,337 --> 00:30:19,905
[elephants trumpet]

544
00:30:19,992 --> 00:30:21,776
And the elephants, of course,

545
00:30:21,863 --> 00:30:25,519
are a critical element
in these rainforests.

546
00:30:25,606 --> 00:30:28,304
Elephants are the
bellwether of Africa.

547
00:30:28,391 --> 00:30:31,133
As elephants go, so
will everything else go.

548
00:30:31,220 --> 00:30:33,048
They're so big,
they're so dominant,

549
00:30:36,791 --> 00:30:39,098
they're now so valuable, that
the best way to get a read

550
00:30:39,185 --> 00:30:41,622
on the natural state of an area,
that should have elephants,

551
00:30:41,709 --> 00:30:43,232
is to go in and see if
they're there are not,

552
00:30:43,319 --> 00:30:44,843
usually it's not now.

553
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:48,977
If they like to breathe,

554
00:30:49,064 --> 00:30:50,370
it's probably a good thing
to save the forest, isn't it?

555
00:30:50,457 --> 00:30:51,937
But maybe they don't
think about that.

556
00:30:52,024 --> 00:30:54,461
They want a stable
climate you have to look

557
00:30:54,548 --> 00:30:56,593
at the integrity
and the function,

558
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,552
it's called ecosystem services.

559
00:31:00,249 --> 00:31:02,208
- [Jane] The elephants
open up the forests

560
00:31:02,295 --> 00:31:04,471
so that new life can grow,

561
00:31:04,558 --> 00:31:06,908
they transport
seeds in their dung.

562
00:31:06,995 --> 00:31:09,737
Chimpanzees do exactly
the same; they take seeds

563
00:31:09,824 --> 00:31:11,870
and spread them
around in the forest.

564
00:31:13,001 --> 00:31:15,743
[peaceful music]

565
00:31:19,573 --> 00:31:22,706
[elephants trumpeting]

566
00:31:24,143 --> 00:31:26,972
[leaves rustling]

567
00:31:28,103 --> 00:31:32,194
- Elephants disperse
more seeds individually,

568
00:31:32,281 --> 00:31:35,545
of more species of
trees and other plants,

569
00:31:35,632 --> 00:31:39,288
further than any other animal.

570
00:31:39,375 --> 00:31:40,855
And they do that
wherever they live.

571
00:31:40,942 --> 00:31:44,293
So, 50 countries, 37 in Africa,

572
00:31:44,380 --> 00:31:48,863
13 in Asia, have natural
elephant populations.

573
00:31:48,950 --> 00:31:50,821
[mysterious music]

574
00:31:50,909 --> 00:31:54,738
- [Mike] Elephants in particular
are unique in the sense

575
00:31:54,825 --> 00:31:58,525
that their digestive
process is so intense

576
00:31:58,612 --> 00:32:00,875
there are seeds
from certain trees

577
00:32:00,962 --> 00:32:03,356
that will not germinate
unless they've passed

578
00:32:03,443 --> 00:32:04,748
through an elephant's gut.

579
00:32:07,447 --> 00:32:10,798
So, the reason that people
kill trees in Africa

580
00:32:10,885 --> 00:32:12,887
is because they want
the carbon that's stored

581
00:32:12,974 --> 00:32:14,715
in the tree as a fuel.

582
00:32:14,802 --> 00:32:17,022
They want to use
it for charcoal.

583
00:32:17,109 --> 00:32:18,501
[smoke hissing]

584
00:32:18,588 --> 00:32:21,461
The forest is an
extremely valuable asset

585
00:32:21,548 --> 00:32:24,029
that the government has to
try and keep its hands off.

586
00:32:24,116 --> 00:32:26,553
If they don't and that
forest disappears,

587
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,295
we will never keep
climate to two degrees.

588
00:32:31,819 --> 00:32:33,081
If you value the forest,

589
00:32:33,168 --> 00:32:35,040
protect the gardeners
of the forest.

590
00:32:35,127 --> 00:32:36,998
They are not ornaments,
they are not things

591
00:32:37,085 --> 00:32:39,131
to go and see on holiday.

592
00:32:39,218 --> 00:32:43,048
Every gorilla, every
elephant, every howler monkey

593
00:32:43,135 --> 00:32:46,051
in Latin America, or
tapir, are working for us,

594
00:32:46,138 --> 00:32:48,662
dispersing seeds for
the trees of tomorrow.

595
00:32:48,749 --> 00:32:50,664
And if we want
those carbon stores

596
00:32:50,751 --> 00:32:54,929
and those rainwater-generating
forests to continue

597
00:32:55,016 --> 00:32:56,757
into the next century,
we have to make sure

598
00:32:56,844 --> 00:32:59,847
that the seeds are being
sown today to do that job.

599
00:33:02,241 --> 00:33:03,546
People think there's a forest

600
00:33:03,633 --> 00:33:05,418
and then you put
some animals in, no.

601
00:33:05,505 --> 00:33:08,160
The animals and the
trees and the bacteria

602
00:33:08,247 --> 00:33:10,640
are all part of that
forest ecosystem.

603
00:33:10,727 --> 00:33:12,077
And one of the
things that gorillas

604
00:33:12,164 --> 00:33:15,123
do spectacularly well
is produce manure.

605
00:33:15,210 --> 00:33:18,648
A gorilla will eat and
produce something like,

606
00:33:18,735 --> 00:33:22,000
between 10 and 20 kilos
of dung every day.

607
00:33:22,087 --> 00:33:23,349
That's about one
hundred kilos a week.

608
00:33:23,436 --> 00:33:26,395
In 10 weeks that's
a ton of manure

609
00:33:26,482 --> 00:33:27,788
being spread around the forest.

610
00:33:27,875 --> 00:33:30,095
And in that manure are seeds.

611
00:33:30,182 --> 00:33:32,140
Elephants are even
more important

612
00:33:32,227 --> 00:33:33,620
as gardeners of the forest.

613
00:33:33,707 --> 00:33:35,491
If gorillas are the
gardeners of the forest,

614
00:33:35,578 --> 00:33:37,841
elephants are the
mega-gardeners,
because they're so big.

615
00:33:39,843 --> 00:33:41,845
But we're so taken
aback by how powerful

616
00:33:41,932 --> 00:33:44,631
they are, we think
they're indestructible.

617
00:33:44,718 --> 00:33:47,460
[leaves rustling]

618
00:33:47,547 --> 00:33:50,115
As human development has
grown and elephant habitat

619
00:33:50,202 --> 00:33:53,509
has shrunk, the elephants
are constantly coming up

620
00:33:53,596 --> 00:33:56,295
against people who
are unfriendly, who
are chasing them out

621
00:33:56,382 --> 00:33:57,905
of their crops, who are trying

622
00:33:57,992 --> 00:34:01,126
to defend their livelihood
from the elephants.

623
00:34:01,213 --> 00:34:03,041
And the elephants
are seen as an enemy.

624
00:34:03,128 --> 00:34:04,825
And that the latest
manifestation of this,

625
00:34:04,912 --> 00:34:08,089
that I've experienced
is charcoal.

626
00:34:08,176 --> 00:34:09,743
Because for most
families in Africa

627
00:34:09,830 --> 00:34:11,614
they don't have electricity,
they don't have gas.

628
00:34:11,701 --> 00:34:15,009
If they got to cook, they
need either wood or charcoal.

629
00:34:15,096 --> 00:34:16,924
In many cities,
the charcoal trade

630
00:34:17,011 --> 00:34:19,970
is a multi-million dollar
business, which means anyone

631
00:34:20,058 --> 00:34:23,452
who can pay people a pittance
to go and cut down trees,

632
00:34:23,539 --> 00:34:26,890
or even just branches of
trees, build a charcoal kiln

633
00:34:26,977 --> 00:34:28,544
and bring out a few
bags of charcoal,

634
00:34:28,631 --> 00:34:30,155
they'll be paid a few
dollars. And that charcoal

635
00:34:30,242 --> 00:34:32,070
is worth a lot of
money in the city.

636
00:34:34,594 --> 00:34:36,770
The first day we went out
in the forest reserve,

637
00:34:36,857 --> 00:34:39,338
we saw three
charcoal operations.

638
00:34:39,425 --> 00:34:41,209
The elephants were right
next to the charcoal

639
00:34:41,296 --> 00:34:43,646
and were obviously agitated.

640
00:34:43,733 --> 00:34:45,822
The matriarch clearly felt

641
00:34:45,909 --> 00:34:47,650
that we were posing
a threat to them.

642
00:34:47,737 --> 00:34:49,261
She started running towards us.

643
00:34:49,348 --> 00:34:50,697
I didn't want to
be hit from behind,

644
00:34:50,784 --> 00:34:52,525
so I turned around
and I was rumbling,

645
00:34:52,612 --> 00:34:53,961
sort of a [imitates rumbling],

646
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,487
as we do when we
approach the elephants.

647
00:34:58,574 --> 00:35:01,186
She was really moving. [laughs]

648
00:35:02,839 --> 00:35:05,407
I was still running backwards,
still trying to placate her

649
00:35:05,494 --> 00:35:09,194
when she hit me and I put
my hands up to her face.

650
00:35:09,281 --> 00:35:14,286
And when I turned to face
her and then the camera

651
00:35:15,417 --> 00:35:17,027
hit the elephant's
face against my hand.

652
00:35:17,115 --> 00:35:18,638
But that turned the camera off.

653
00:35:19,813 --> 00:35:21,510
And it left me on
my hands and knees

654
00:35:21,597 --> 00:35:24,078
when I completed the backward
roll, under the elephant.

655
00:35:24,165 --> 00:35:26,080
And she started playing
football with me.

656
00:35:26,167 --> 00:35:28,735
After five seconds,
one of the kicks

657
00:35:28,822 --> 00:35:31,303
happened to knock the
camera and turn it on again.

658
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,309
[camera clicking]

659
00:35:39,702 --> 00:35:40,747
[elephant trumpets]

660
00:35:40,834 --> 00:35:41,878
A second later, you hear

661
00:35:41,965 --> 00:35:44,620
[gun firing]

662
00:35:44,707 --> 00:35:48,233
which is the rangers who
had fired a shot, in the air

663
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:49,625
and the elephant fled.

664
00:35:49,712 --> 00:35:52,541
She came to chase
the humans away,

665
00:35:52,628 --> 00:35:54,587
who were hassling her family.

666
00:35:54,674 --> 00:35:57,459
Now in human society, we
give people like that medals.

667
00:35:59,331 --> 00:36:02,334
[elephant rumbling]

668
00:36:17,044 --> 00:36:20,003
- The growth in the human
population and its footprint,

669
00:36:20,090 --> 00:36:23,268
is a major threat, probably
the single biggest threat,

670
00:36:23,355 --> 00:36:26,184
to wildlife persisting
into the long term.

671
00:36:26,271 --> 00:36:29,274
Simply because it doesn't
have to take all the land away

672
00:36:29,361 --> 00:36:32,059
from wildlife, it fragments it.

673
00:36:32,146 --> 00:36:35,105
We take the best bits, we leave
the worst bits for wildlife.

674
00:36:35,193 --> 00:36:38,239
Now, a population that used
to live in a particular area

675
00:36:38,326 --> 00:36:39,980
is two populations separated

676
00:36:40,067 --> 00:36:41,851
by human settlements
in the middle.

677
00:36:41,938 --> 00:36:45,681
So, they can't literally get
in contact with each other.

678
00:36:45,768 --> 00:36:48,815
So one of the biggest
challenges out there is the fact

679
00:36:48,902 --> 00:36:51,296
that the human population,
currently about seven

680
00:36:51,383 --> 00:36:53,907
and a bit billion people on
this planet, is going to rise

681
00:36:53,994 --> 00:36:57,302
to eleven billion people
by the end of this century.

682
00:36:57,389 --> 00:37:00,218
And the question then is,
is there room for wildlife?

683
00:37:02,394 --> 00:37:06,441
- There is an actual movement
in conservation to focus

684
00:37:06,528 --> 00:37:10,315
on population reduction in
humans as an indirect way

685
00:37:10,402 --> 00:37:13,100
to improve wildlife
conservation.

686
00:37:13,187 --> 00:37:15,668
So, one approach has
been for conservationists

687
00:37:15,755 --> 00:37:20,760
to teach population control and
offer reproductive education

688
00:37:21,848 --> 00:37:23,676
to the women who
live in the villages.

689
00:37:23,763 --> 00:37:27,288
So, they've seen the
childbirth, you know,

690
00:37:27,375 --> 00:37:30,030
the growth has flat-lined
in those villages.

691
00:37:36,689 --> 00:37:39,692
- [Narrator] The
desert elephants of
Namibia's Kunene Region

692
00:37:39,779 --> 00:37:42,738
are one of only two
populations of desert elephants

693
00:37:42,825 --> 00:37:46,307
in the world, the other
is in Mali, North Africa,

694
00:37:46,394 --> 00:37:49,963
approximately 150
individuals remain here.

695
00:37:50,790 --> 00:37:52,357
- Why am I pessimistic?

696
00:37:52,444 --> 00:37:54,924
Just because of the
numbers of humans on earth.

697
00:37:58,798 --> 00:38:00,539
And elephants are disappearing

698
00:38:00,626 --> 00:38:05,239
and I can't just wave
a magic wand or jump

699
00:38:05,326 --> 00:38:07,633
to action and save them.

700
00:38:07,720 --> 00:38:10,026
That's part of being
wildlife biologists

701
00:38:10,113 --> 00:38:15,118
is you see a lot of death and
you get to see the rare birth

702
00:38:16,294 --> 00:38:19,993
that balances out all
the, all the death.

703
00:38:21,342 --> 00:38:23,518
It was a life changing
experience for me.

704
00:38:23,605 --> 00:38:25,738
I knew I wanted to
work with elephants.

705
00:38:25,825 --> 00:38:28,306
We thought originally
we'd go back to Zimbabwe

706
00:38:28,393 --> 00:38:30,569
and work there,
but then Zimbabwe

707
00:38:30,656 --> 00:38:33,963
went extremely
downhill, very fast.

708
00:38:34,877 --> 00:38:36,531
- Yeah.

709
00:38:36,618 --> 00:38:37,967
- In Zimbabwe, you know when
our friends would go out

710
00:38:38,054 --> 00:38:41,275
on an anti-poaching
patrol, suddenly this

711
00:38:41,362 --> 00:38:44,060
was a military operation
in the national park,

712
00:38:44,147 --> 00:38:45,758
where they would
hand out the weapons

713
00:38:45,845 --> 00:38:48,108
and their lives were
out there on the line.

714
00:38:48,195 --> 00:38:51,894
And so it takes that level
of commitment, of individuals

715
00:38:51,981 --> 00:38:56,986
and a commitment of society,
in order to turn it around.

716
00:38:58,510 --> 00:39:01,817
They're a lot of people that
do value the elephants there.

717
00:39:01,904 --> 00:39:04,777
And then there are a number of
people, like in any society,

718
00:39:04,864 --> 00:39:07,562
they won't appreciate
what they have or had,

719
00:39:07,649 --> 00:39:08,737
until it's gone.

720
00:39:10,173 --> 00:39:11,784
- The bigger problem
we're dealing with

721
00:39:11,871 --> 00:39:16,223
with desert elephants is
not so much ivory poaching,

722
00:39:16,310 --> 00:39:21,315
it's attitudes of the people
who live with elephants,

723
00:39:22,403 --> 00:39:25,188
who pay the price,
through destroyed crops

724
00:39:25,275 --> 00:39:29,149
or, you know, untimely
death of relatives

725
00:39:29,236 --> 00:39:32,413
or friends from elephants
or lions, whatever it is.

726
00:39:33,632 --> 00:39:36,461
[somber music]

727
00:39:36,548 --> 00:39:39,551
So, we need people
to go to Namibia,

728
00:39:39,638 --> 00:39:42,423
spend their tourist dollars,
pay the local people

729
00:39:42,510 --> 00:39:45,948
to tell them about
their lifestyle,

730
00:39:46,035 --> 00:39:48,734
make the elephants
worthwhile to those people,

731
00:39:48,821 --> 00:39:51,345
by sharing the wealth
that we have here,

732
00:39:51,432 --> 00:39:54,696
with those people there and
then elephants will be valued.

733
00:39:56,394 --> 00:40:01,181
In 2012, we went to Africa
and we got to a village

734
00:40:01,268 --> 00:40:03,444
that we know very well.

735
00:40:03,531 --> 00:40:07,492
Just two days after,
one of our elephants,

736
00:40:07,579 --> 00:40:10,059
one of our known
elephants, had been killed

737
00:40:10,146 --> 00:40:13,367
by the authorities for
being a problem animal.

738
00:40:13,454 --> 00:40:15,413
And we didn't know
which elephant it was,

739
00:40:15,500 --> 00:40:18,459
but we arrived there
and all that was left

740
00:40:18,546 --> 00:40:20,983
of his carcass was an ear.

741
00:40:21,070 --> 00:40:24,596
I looked at my ID book of all
the elephants and who's who,

742
00:40:24,683 --> 00:40:27,294
based on their ear
patterns and I said

743
00:40:27,381 --> 00:40:31,907
"Oh, this is M7, Mr. Sneaky".

744
00:40:33,474 --> 00:40:38,044
The local guy who was
showing us the carcass said,

745
00:40:38,131 --> 00:40:41,264
"Well, the meat was given
to the local people to eat,"

746
00:40:41,351 --> 00:40:42,614
and he said,

747
00:40:42,701 --> 00:40:44,267
"Don't you like elephant meat?"

748
00:40:45,486 --> 00:40:47,706
And I said, "I would
never eat an elephant,

749
00:40:47,793 --> 00:40:50,099
"it would be like
eating a family member."

750
00:40:51,274 --> 00:40:53,189
And he thought that was
the strangest thing.

751
00:40:56,366 --> 00:40:58,368
We were feeling
extremely discouraged

752
00:40:58,456 --> 00:41:01,807
and decided we're done.

753
00:41:01,894 --> 00:41:04,549
Let's just go and say
goodbye to the elephants

754
00:41:04,636 --> 00:41:05,506
and we're done.

755
00:41:08,988 --> 00:41:12,426
The next day we came upon our
favorite group of elephants,

756
00:41:12,513 --> 00:41:17,475
the tuskless matriarch,
and the teenage daughter,

757
00:41:18,911 --> 00:41:22,915
whose name is Dorothy,
was showing some breasts.

758
00:41:24,133 --> 00:41:26,701
Dorothy starts to
act very strangely

759
00:41:26,788 --> 00:41:31,010
and all of a sudden out
comes this birth sac

760
00:41:31,097 --> 00:41:35,014
and poosh on the ground,
a baby elephant is born.

761
00:41:35,101 --> 00:41:37,756
[elephant rumbles]

762
00:41:37,843 --> 00:41:41,237
[gentle, peaceful music]

763
00:42:17,273 --> 00:42:20,102
[elephant rumbles]

764
00:42:43,648 --> 00:42:45,171
We both said, "This is it".

765
00:42:45,258 --> 00:42:47,956
"How can we give
up at this point?"

766
00:42:48,043 --> 00:42:50,089
- We're all in again, all in.

767
00:42:50,176 --> 00:42:52,744
[laughing]

768
00:42:52,831 --> 00:42:54,484
We're going for
it, laying it out

769
00:42:54,572 --> 00:42:58,358
on the line in order to
turn the tide on extinction.

770
00:42:59,751 --> 00:43:02,275
[upbeat music]

771
00:43:05,278 --> 00:43:06,584
- [Narrator] Humans and wildlife

772
00:43:06,671 --> 00:43:08,760
compete for natural resources.

773
00:43:10,196 --> 00:43:13,199
Male elephants more often
raid crops than do females

774
00:43:13,286 --> 00:43:16,681
in order to gain size and
reproductive advantage.

775
00:43:16,768 --> 00:43:20,815
These crop raiders are then
considered problem elephants.

776
00:43:23,992 --> 00:43:27,039
- In case of human wildlife
conflict, we always follow up.

777
00:43:27,126 --> 00:43:28,954
If an elephant comes into
a farm and you kill it,

778
00:43:29,041 --> 00:43:30,738
you can't be charged.

779
00:43:30,825 --> 00:43:34,350
It's the only income that
farmer might have for that year.

780
00:43:34,437 --> 00:43:35,961
He's relying on it
to feed his family.

781
00:43:36,048 --> 00:43:39,399
He's relying on it to
educate his kids, whatever.

782
00:43:39,486 --> 00:43:41,227
So, in two minutes an
elephant will go in there

783
00:43:41,314 --> 00:43:43,490
and destroy a whole
year's worth of crops.

784
00:43:44,839 --> 00:43:47,581
So, you can understand
why you get out of bed

785
00:43:47,668 --> 00:43:49,757
in the middle of the night and
throw a spear at an elephant.

786
00:43:49,844 --> 00:43:53,108
So, these are spears that
we've confiscated off poachers.

787
00:43:54,936 --> 00:43:59,593
Again, they poison the
blade so when it goes in,

788
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,509
it's not only the spear
that does the damage,

789
00:44:02,596 --> 00:44:04,772
it's the poison that
finishes it off.

790
00:44:04,859 --> 00:44:07,601
The worst is when you dig
one out of a dead elephant.

791
00:44:07,688 --> 00:44:09,472
Sometimes it kills
it quite quickly.

792
00:44:09,559 --> 00:44:12,171
I say quickly, 10, 15 minutes.

793
00:44:12,258 --> 00:44:16,392
Sometimes it takes
days, sometimes months.

794
00:44:16,479 --> 00:44:17,655
Poisoning spears is a new thing.

795
00:44:17,742 --> 00:44:19,265
It never used to happen before.

796
00:44:19,352 --> 00:44:21,093
It's a new technique.

797
00:44:21,180 --> 00:44:23,617
But also they're
using pesticides now.

798
00:44:23,704 --> 00:44:25,445
They've ramped it up.

799
00:44:25,532 --> 00:44:27,273
There's pesticides
available on the market

800
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,015
and you can just go buy that
from the veterinary shop,

801
00:44:30,102 --> 00:44:32,147
soak your arrow or
your spear in it,

802
00:44:32,234 --> 00:44:34,672
and it's more lethal than
the traditional poison.

803
00:44:37,283 --> 00:44:40,634
[elephant screeching]

804
00:44:40,721 --> 00:44:43,028
- Human-elephant conflict
is a huge problem

805
00:44:43,115 --> 00:44:46,945
in Laikipia County
and the levels of
human-elephant conflict

806
00:44:47,032 --> 00:44:49,469
are probably amongst the worst
in the whole of East Africa.

807
00:44:49,556 --> 00:44:51,819
We got a call from one of
our scouts in the field,

808
00:44:51,906 --> 00:44:54,648
who gave us some
information about elephants

809
00:44:54,735 --> 00:44:57,477
being stuck in a dam.

810
00:44:57,564 --> 00:44:59,479
You had seven bull
elephants who had crop

811
00:44:59,566 --> 00:45:00,828
raided the night before.

812
00:45:03,613 --> 00:45:05,790
And once we closer, it
became clear these elephants

813
00:45:05,877 --> 00:45:08,140
weren't stuck at all,
but that the community

814
00:45:08,227 --> 00:45:09,924
was actually holding
them hostage.

815
00:45:11,143 --> 00:45:12,666
I mean you had 400
people screaming

816
00:45:12,753 --> 00:45:14,320
and yelling in all
directions and the elephants

817
00:45:14,407 --> 00:45:16,670
didn't know which way to go.

818
00:45:16,757 --> 00:45:19,064
[screaming]

819
00:45:21,370 --> 00:45:23,024
[helicopter whirring]

820
00:45:23,111 --> 00:45:25,766
And the arrival of this
helicopter sent the population

821
00:45:25,853 --> 00:45:29,204
into a frenzy because they
wanted to harvest the meat,

822
00:45:29,291 --> 00:45:31,206
so at least they
would have something.

823
00:45:32,642 --> 00:45:33,905
People would prevent them
from leaving, you know,

824
00:45:33,992 --> 00:45:35,428
by shouting or by
throwing stones

825
00:45:35,515 --> 00:45:37,822
and by driving
fire towards them.

826
00:45:37,909 --> 00:45:41,086
This elephant made a
desperate attempt to escape.

827
00:45:43,436 --> 00:45:45,264
And it charged
into the shallows.

828
00:45:45,351 --> 00:45:49,094
Now you had an elephant
on the run amongst people.

829
00:45:51,226 --> 00:45:53,272
This act of bravery, I suppose,

830
00:45:53,359 --> 00:45:55,056
encouraged the other elephants

831
00:45:55,143 --> 00:45:58,364
so they managed to get out
as well, once the helicopter

832
00:45:58,451 --> 00:46:00,627
pushed the people and
cleared the way for them.

833
00:46:02,629 --> 00:46:04,631
It's really tough for
conservationists because people

834
00:46:04,718 --> 00:46:06,285
look at us and say,

835
00:46:06,372 --> 00:46:07,590
"Ah, you know we only
care about the elephants.

836
00:46:07,677 --> 00:46:08,461
"We don't care
about the people."

837
00:46:08,548 --> 00:46:09,984
This is not true,

838
00:46:10,071 --> 00:46:12,770
but these are the
perceptions that go around.

839
00:46:13,858 --> 00:46:15,555
[splashing]

840
00:46:15,642 --> 00:46:16,948
- You can't ignore
that human need

841
00:46:17,035 --> 00:46:18,776
in solving the
conservation problems.

842
00:46:19,994 --> 00:46:22,388
This generation is the
generation that's now

843
00:46:22,475 --> 00:46:24,607
in conflict for the first time

844
00:46:24,694 --> 00:46:27,088
in many, many, many generations.

845
00:46:29,743 --> 00:46:31,049
[splashing]

846
00:46:31,136 --> 00:46:32,572
It's not a cultural
norm for them to be

847
00:46:32,659 --> 00:46:34,443
in conflict with wildlife.

848
00:46:34,530 --> 00:46:37,664
They didn't conquer the
wilderness the way the pioneers

849
00:46:37,751 --> 00:46:39,361
did in North America perhaps,

850
00:46:39,448 --> 00:46:40,928
where there were dangerous
animals that were killed

851
00:46:41,015 --> 00:46:43,452
to make the land
safe for families.

852
00:46:43,539 --> 00:46:46,238
If you can work with
them to see the wildlife

853
00:46:46,325 --> 00:46:49,328
and the wilderness as an
asset, there is still time.

854
00:46:49,415 --> 00:46:51,678
This challenge that
wildlife faces now

855
00:46:51,765 --> 00:46:53,114
is not about changing wildlife.

856
00:46:53,201 --> 00:46:55,247
The group that has to
change is the humans.

857
00:46:55,334 --> 00:46:58,250
[crowd chattering]

858
00:47:01,383 --> 00:47:02,776
- [Narrator]
Human-elephant conflict

859
00:47:02,863 --> 00:47:05,039
threatens elephant survival.

860
00:47:05,126 --> 00:47:08,042
Translocating, or moving,
'problem' elephants

861
00:47:08,129 --> 00:47:10,392
is one conservation strategy.

862
00:47:10,479 --> 00:47:14,527
But translocation intensifies
human-elephant conflict

863
00:47:14,614 --> 00:47:16,181
and increases elephant deaths.

864
00:47:17,922 --> 00:47:21,142
[elephant crying]:

865
00:47:21,229 --> 00:47:24,754
- Another example of how
we know elephants behave

866
00:47:24,842 --> 00:47:26,408
when they don't have
their elders around

867
00:47:26,495 --> 00:47:29,194
is from young elephants
that have been translocated.

868
00:47:29,281 --> 00:47:31,936
So, they move in
elephants that perhaps

869
00:47:32,023 --> 00:47:34,677
have seen their
family members culled,

870
00:47:34,764 --> 00:47:39,073
all of the family members
killed in another park

871
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:40,422
in South Africa, where they felt

872
00:47:40,509 --> 00:47:42,163
there were too many elephants.

873
00:47:42,250 --> 00:47:44,252
So, they kill all the adults,
they take the youngsters

874
00:47:44,339 --> 00:47:46,776
and move them out
to another park.

875
00:47:47,777 --> 00:47:50,868
[elephants screaming]

876
00:48:00,703 --> 00:48:02,357
- My name is Barbara Wiseman,

877
00:48:02,444 --> 00:48:03,837
and I'm the
international president

878
00:48:03,924 --> 00:48:06,361
of the Lawrence Anthony
Earth organization.

879
00:48:06,448 --> 00:48:08,668
Lawrence had told me there
was a troublesome herd,

880
00:48:08,755 --> 00:48:11,976
they hated people, because
people had killed most

881
00:48:12,063 --> 00:48:13,803
of the herd off.

882
00:48:13,891 --> 00:48:15,762
- If I didn't take them they
were all going to get put down.

883
00:48:15,849 --> 00:48:18,156
So, I said, "Sure,
absolutely, we'll take them".

884
00:48:18,243 --> 00:48:19,505
- [Barbara] The
matriarch knew how

885
00:48:19,592 --> 00:48:21,507
to push over an electric fence

886
00:48:21,594 --> 00:48:24,075
and short it out and
escape with her herd.

887
00:48:25,598 --> 00:48:29,123
They had game rangers, the
game rangers all had guns,

888
00:48:29,210 --> 00:48:31,256
some of them were
intending to kill them.

889
00:48:32,561 --> 00:48:34,999
Finally, the helicopter
pilot got them back.

890
00:48:35,086 --> 00:48:36,435
[helicopter whirring]

891
00:48:36,522 --> 00:48:37,915
- [Lawrence] The
authorities just said,

892
00:48:38,002 --> 00:48:39,394
"Don't have anything to do

893
00:48:39,481 --> 00:48:41,048
"with the elephant when
they're in the boma,

894
00:48:41,135 --> 00:48:42,528
"just leave them."

895
00:48:42,615 --> 00:48:44,704
And last time we did
that, they broke out.

896
00:48:44,791 --> 00:48:47,011
So, I figured you know
somehow they have to learn

897
00:48:47,098 --> 00:48:49,839
to trust at least
one human being.

898
00:48:51,276 --> 00:48:53,539
[dramatic music]

899
00:48:53,626 --> 00:48:57,195
- [Barbara] So, he decided to
stay with them 24 hours a day,

900
00:48:57,282 --> 00:48:59,806
for as long as it took,
to get them used to him.

901
00:49:02,156 --> 00:49:07,161
And every morning the matriarch
would stand at the fence

902
00:49:08,641 --> 00:49:09,947
looking like she was going
to make a break for it.

903
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,472
If an elephant breaks
through an electric fence

904
00:49:13,559 --> 00:49:16,736
with their body once,
they realize that they can

905
00:49:16,823 --> 00:49:20,044
withstand the
charge long enough,

906
00:49:20,131 --> 00:49:22,133
that you can never
hold them again.

907
00:49:24,657 --> 00:49:27,703
And Lawrence would stand
just outside of her reach

908
00:49:27,790 --> 00:49:28,704
and talk to her.

909
00:49:30,445 --> 00:49:34,754
- [Lawrence] Hello, my baby
beautiful, hello, my bubba.

910
00:49:34,841 --> 00:49:37,322
Hello, my beautiful girl.

911
00:49:37,409 --> 00:49:42,414
Yes, come on, come
on, come, bubba.

912
00:49:44,677 --> 00:49:45,939
- [Barbara] Lawrence
was staying with them,

913
00:49:46,026 --> 00:49:47,723
they were incredibly hostile.

914
00:49:47,810 --> 00:49:49,464
If they could have got him,

915
00:49:49,551 --> 00:49:50,813
they would have pulled him in

916
00:49:50,900 --> 00:49:52,990
and stomped him into the ground.

917
00:49:53,077 --> 00:49:57,168
So, after three weeks of this,
one day Lawrence described it

918
00:49:57,255 --> 00:50:00,127
as though all of the
hostility turned off,

919
00:50:00,214 --> 00:50:03,609
like you would turn off a
light switch, just boom.

920
00:50:03,696 --> 00:50:07,004
- [Lawrence] Everything had
gone calm and the matriarch

921
00:50:07,091 --> 00:50:08,396
walked up to me.

922
00:50:08,483 --> 00:50:10,094
And she approached
me and I backed off,

923
00:50:10,181 --> 00:50:11,704
and she stood there,
very benignly,

924
00:50:11,791 --> 00:50:15,229
ears down, great
emotion around her.

925
00:50:15,316 --> 00:50:16,926
Eventually I stepped
forward to the fence,

926
00:50:17,014 --> 00:50:18,624
and she put her trunk
through and touched me.

927
00:50:18,711 --> 00:50:20,843
And I thought, "Well, that's
it, I'll let them out."

928
00:50:22,062 --> 00:50:25,109
[peaceful music]

929
00:50:25,196 --> 00:50:28,938
[elephant rumbling]

930
00:50:29,026 --> 00:50:31,202
[shouting]

931
00:50:31,289 --> 00:50:33,421
- [Barbara] They could be a
mile away, but if they heard it

932
00:50:33,508 --> 00:50:37,121
was Lawrence they would come
like puppy dogs to see him.

933
00:50:39,732 --> 00:50:41,995
- [Lawrence] Whenever I come
back, the day I come back,

934
00:50:42,082 --> 00:50:44,780
when I drive in, they'll
come up to the house.

935
00:50:50,525 --> 00:50:53,398
The herd emanates something,
it emanates something

936
00:50:53,485 --> 00:50:54,790
at a different level.

937
00:50:54,877 --> 00:50:57,054
Being in proximity
to a herd, apart

938
00:50:57,141 --> 00:50:59,273
from watching the
physical manifestations

939
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:03,408
and their body languages, you
actually get an emanation.

940
00:51:12,721 --> 00:51:14,419
- The elephants had been
living with Lawrence

941
00:51:14,506 --> 00:51:16,638
for about 12 years
when he passed away.

942
00:51:16,725 --> 00:51:18,684
The elephants were
about 12 miles

943
00:51:18,771 --> 00:51:21,991
from the house, and
they perceived it.

944
00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:27,084
And they walked to the
house, in mourning, very sort

945
00:51:28,215 --> 00:51:30,261
of sad aspect; and when
they got to the house,

946
00:51:30,348 --> 00:51:32,393
just very agitated they
were usually very calm,

947
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,353
very peaceful, but they
were very agitated.

948
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,921
And they stayed around the
house for about three hours

949
00:51:39,008 --> 00:51:40,706
and then they disappeared.

950
00:51:40,793 --> 00:51:43,970
Interestingly, every year
since then, on the anniversary

951
00:51:44,057 --> 00:51:46,712
of his death, they've
returned to the house.

952
00:51:46,799 --> 00:51:49,976
[elephant trumpets, lion roars]

953
00:51:53,284 --> 00:51:57,505
- You know, lions are not
getting the attention.

954
00:51:57,592 --> 00:51:59,333
It's up to us people
in the field to try

955
00:51:59,420 --> 00:52:00,552
and stop the poisoning.

956
00:52:00,639 --> 00:52:02,554
It's all about the cattle.

957
00:52:02,641 --> 00:52:07,036
People don't boma, corral
their stock, properly anymore.

958
00:52:07,124 --> 00:52:08,777
So lions get in.

959
00:52:08,864 --> 00:52:11,650
There's a lot more cattle,
there's a lot more people.

960
00:52:13,304 --> 00:52:16,089
- So now we have a
surge in cattle numbers

961
00:52:16,176 --> 00:52:18,874
and when they start to
invade the wildlife space,

962
00:52:18,961 --> 00:52:20,485
that's when you get conflict.

963
00:52:20,572 --> 00:52:22,574
And then of course, people,
if they lose a goat,

964
00:52:22,661 --> 00:52:24,576
or a cow, they retaliate.

965
00:52:24,663 --> 00:52:27,013
And they go after the hyena
or the leopard or the lion.

966
00:52:27,100 --> 00:52:30,103
And there are only
20,000 lions in Africa.

967
00:52:33,498 --> 00:52:37,284
- Well, I was a surfer at the
coast and my dream of going

968
00:52:37,371 --> 00:52:39,634
into the bush and playing Tarzan

969
00:52:39,721 --> 00:52:43,899
and becoming a great game
man, wildlife man in Africa,

970
00:52:43,986 --> 00:52:47,381
was sort of lost in the
waves and the lifestyle.

971
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,210
When I met Joy, I
had written to her

972
00:52:50,297 --> 00:52:51,951
and said "Have you got any
openings, and she said,

973
00:52:52,038 --> 00:52:55,302
"Well, I have nothing
going, but I know my husband

974
00:52:55,389 --> 00:52:58,610
"is looking for someone,
because his previous assistant

975
00:52:58,697 --> 00:53:01,874
has just been killed
by one his lions."

976
00:53:01,961 --> 00:53:03,310
And I thought,
"Great, that sounds

977
00:53:03,397 --> 00:53:05,269
"like the sort of
thing I want to do."

978
00:53:06,792 --> 00:53:10,970
When I joined George, his
pride was down from 11 to 3.

979
00:53:12,058 --> 00:53:14,408
And amongst them were
two females: Lisa,

980
00:53:14,495 --> 00:53:17,803
who was very affectionate,
Juma, whom you couldn't handle,

981
00:53:17,890 --> 00:53:20,980
because she'd been very
badly treated on capture

982
00:53:21,067 --> 00:53:24,288
and Christian, the lion
that came from England.

983
00:53:24,375 --> 00:53:27,073
[dramatic music]

984
00:53:48,050 --> 00:53:50,488
Christian was coming
up to two years old,

985
00:53:50,575 --> 00:53:52,707
he really didn't know
what he was doing.

986
00:53:52,794 --> 00:53:54,187
I didn't have a clue.

987
00:53:55,928 --> 00:53:58,713
Christian and I grew up
together, and got into all sorts

988
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,759
of scrapes, had
all sorts of fun,

989
00:54:00,846 --> 00:54:03,065
and we taught each other
everything we knew.

990
00:54:04,110 --> 00:54:06,547
They're very loving and they're,

991
00:54:06,634 --> 00:54:08,462
you can form a very close
relationship with them,

992
00:54:08,549 --> 00:54:09,855
but you got to watch it.

993
00:54:09,942 --> 00:54:11,596
It's an occupational hazard.

994
00:54:11,683 --> 00:54:15,861
You know, racing drivers have
car crashes and you know,

995
00:54:15,948 --> 00:54:19,212
painters fall off ladders,
and it's no worse than that.

996
00:54:19,299 --> 00:54:21,475
It makes for a better story.

997
00:54:21,562 --> 00:54:22,520
- [Director] Is this
one of the lions

998
00:54:22,607 --> 00:54:23,869
that you guys were raising?

999
00:54:23,956 --> 00:54:25,305
- No, it was part
of a wild pride

1000
00:54:25,392 --> 00:54:27,046
that we brought up
when their mother died.

1001
00:54:27,133 --> 00:54:29,222
Not a lion we'd ever handled.

1002
00:54:29,309 --> 00:54:30,354
But then eventually he got me.

1003
00:54:30,441 --> 00:54:32,051
All I could do was go fetal.

1004
00:54:32,138 --> 00:54:34,445
I could hardly...I kept
sort of coming and going.

1005
00:54:36,882 --> 00:54:39,885
And then he got me through
the neck and strangled.

1006
00:54:39,972 --> 00:54:42,540
George did the most
wonderful things

1007
00:54:42,627 --> 00:54:45,804
because what he did with the
respect and the understanding

1008
00:54:45,891 --> 00:54:47,284
that he had for
these wild animals

1009
00:54:47,371 --> 00:54:48,894
and the way he carried it out

1010
00:54:48,981 --> 00:54:51,244
and just the whole
toughness of it.

1011
00:54:51,331 --> 00:54:54,247
I mean, there he
was day and night,

1012
00:54:54,334 --> 00:54:57,119
you know, 365 days a
year out in the bush

1013
00:54:57,206 --> 00:54:58,512
with a pride of lions.

1014
00:55:03,169 --> 00:55:04,953
And they're lovely.

1015
00:55:18,663 --> 00:55:21,013
[flamingos honking]

1016
00:55:28,368 --> 00:55:30,631
So, I feel very
sad, I never thought

1017
00:55:30,718 --> 00:55:33,460
that in the short period
of time, nearly 50 years,

1018
00:55:33,547 --> 00:55:38,073
that I've been in Africa, I
would see wild animals go down,

1019
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,120
you know, to such low
levels and be regarded

1020
00:55:41,207 --> 00:55:43,340
in such a low light.

1021
00:55:48,301 --> 00:55:51,043
[tires on pavement]

1022
00:55:52,479 --> 00:55:56,265
It's just horrific how
things can change so fast.

1023
00:55:57,441 --> 00:55:58,920
You know, it's just
people against wildlife

1024
00:55:59,007 --> 00:56:01,706
and looking after
wildlife isn't difficult.

1025
00:56:01,793 --> 00:56:05,144
It's not rocket science, but
you just got to make sure

1026
00:56:05,231 --> 00:56:08,103
that if there's crime,
there's punishment.

1027
00:56:08,190 --> 00:56:11,716
And none of the big boys ever
go down that are behind this,

1028
00:56:11,803 --> 00:56:14,371
and you don't see
any middlemen caught.

1029
00:56:14,458 --> 00:56:17,025
Certain tribes punch
way above their weight

1030
00:56:17,112 --> 00:56:18,766
and just ignore the laws.

1031
00:56:18,853 --> 00:56:21,508
The attractively dressed
people that the Western world

1032
00:56:21,595 --> 00:56:25,251
loves so much are the worst
offenders in all of this.

1033
00:56:27,601 --> 00:56:29,342
Lions used to be poisoned

1034
00:56:29,429 --> 00:56:32,824
with a very readily available
cattle dip called Kopertox.

1035
00:56:32,911 --> 00:56:35,783
Now they're use an insecticide,
which is even more virulent,

1036
00:56:35,870 --> 00:56:38,830
called Furadan, which
comes from America.

1037
00:56:38,917 --> 00:56:40,658
It's meant to be banned,
of course it isn't,

1038
00:56:40,745 --> 00:56:41,963
you can buy it anywhere.

1039
00:56:43,791 --> 00:56:46,490
And that's what comes with
the increase in stock numbers.

1040
00:56:47,926 --> 00:56:50,885
- It starts with some lions
going into an enclosure,

1041
00:56:50,972 --> 00:56:53,932
the residue carcass getting
spliced with this poison.

1042
00:56:54,019 --> 00:56:57,501
The lions coming back, they
get killed, hyenas come in,

1043
00:56:57,588 --> 00:56:59,851
they get killed, the
vultures come in,

1044
00:56:59,938 --> 00:57:01,635
they get killed, it's horrific.

1045
00:57:03,637 --> 00:57:07,162
Lions and leopards in
particular are very capable

1046
00:57:07,249 --> 00:57:10,209
of jumping over and climbing
into these enclosures.

1047
00:57:11,645 --> 00:57:14,996
Leopard in particular, they
go on kind of killing phase.

1048
00:57:15,083 --> 00:57:17,129
It's like kill
everything that moves.

1049
00:57:17,216 --> 00:57:20,567
The owner of that livestock
is not best pleased,

1050
00:57:20,654 --> 00:57:22,090
to put it mildly.

1051
00:57:22,177 --> 00:57:25,137
Many of them will kill
the offending leopard

1052
00:57:25,224 --> 00:57:27,095
or kill the offending lion.

1053
00:57:27,182 --> 00:57:29,533
Almost all these predators
don't like people.

1054
00:57:29,620 --> 00:57:31,056
Elephants don't like people.

1055
00:57:31,143 --> 00:57:33,275
Fully understandable,
we're the big baddies.

1056
00:57:35,930 --> 00:57:38,237
Okay, Light for Life,
it's the deployment

1057
00:57:38,324 --> 00:57:42,154
of a LED lighting system,
a flashing lighting system

1058
00:57:42,241 --> 00:57:45,244
around the periphery of
livestock enclosures.

1059
00:57:48,334 --> 00:57:50,031
[calf mooing]

1060
00:57:50,118 --> 00:57:51,903
These flashing lights actually
represent human movement,

1061
00:57:51,990 --> 00:57:54,166
activity within the enclosures.

1062
00:57:55,646 --> 00:57:57,082
If you stop the predator

1063
00:57:57,169 --> 00:57:59,650
going into the boma,
then there is no need

1064
00:57:59,737 --> 00:58:01,565
for retaliatory killing.

1065
00:58:01,652 --> 00:58:03,262
Then they don't need
to go out with a spear.

1066
00:58:03,349 --> 00:58:04,742
They don't need to lay poison.

1067
00:58:04,829 --> 00:58:06,395
They are prepared
to accept living

1068
00:58:06,483 --> 00:58:10,748
in proximity...as they
have done for generations.

1069
00:58:10,835 --> 00:58:13,490
[lion grunting]

1070
00:58:56,010 --> 00:58:58,491
- For the last fifteen years,

1071
00:58:58,578 --> 00:59:01,625
I've run my own safari
hunting company,

1072
00:59:01,712 --> 00:59:03,714
which is basically
trophy hunting.

1073
00:59:06,586 --> 00:59:08,153
I believe in hunting.

1074
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:11,243
I don't see anything wrong
in shooting an animal.

1075
00:59:11,330 --> 00:59:16,204
I don't necessarily say you
should shoot a trophy animal.

1076
00:59:17,989 --> 00:59:20,078
- [Director] Why are
animals trophies?

1077
00:59:21,253 --> 00:59:25,518
- It's a memento of the
experience of the hunt.

1078
00:59:25,605 --> 00:59:28,173
So you keep something
from your experience.

1079
00:59:28,260 --> 00:59:31,959
Because the trophy hunting
fraternity likes to say

1080
00:59:32,046 --> 00:59:34,396
that we're not just
there to kill something,

1081
00:59:34,483 --> 00:59:35,528
it's about the experience.

1082
00:59:35,615 --> 00:59:36,921
It's not about the trophy.

1083
00:59:37,008 --> 00:59:38,705
It's all about being
in the wilderness

1084
00:59:38,792 --> 00:59:40,141
and pursuing something.

1085
00:59:42,579 --> 00:59:47,584
In many cases underage animals
will get shot, even females.

1086
00:59:48,715 --> 00:59:50,456
Females are not
allowed to be shot.

1087
00:59:52,284 --> 00:59:56,375
If you do shoot a female, it's
a transgression of the law.

1088
00:59:56,462 --> 01:00:00,248
Certain species are very
susceptible to this, like lion.

1089
01:00:00,335 --> 01:00:02,511
Because in the field,
it's incredibly easy

1090
01:00:02,599 --> 01:00:03,817
to change the rules.

1091
01:00:05,950 --> 01:00:09,649
There's no one around for
miles except the game scout,

1092
01:00:09,736 --> 01:00:11,259
who works for me, I pay him.

1093
01:00:13,261 --> 01:00:18,266
You'll do a hunt of 10 days,
that's 2,500 dollars you earn.

1094
01:00:20,094 --> 01:00:24,708
$2,500 is a reasonable amount,
I believe, for 10 days.

1095
01:00:24,795 --> 01:00:26,710
Some people don't
think so, so they rely

1096
01:00:26,797 --> 01:00:29,147
on a gratuity at the
end of the safari.

1097
01:00:30,714 --> 01:00:34,979
And so, the client would be,
"Well, why can't I shoot that?"

1098
01:00:38,547 --> 01:00:40,593
So, then the professional
hunter starts thinking,

1099
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:42,900
well if I let him shoot it,

1100
01:00:42,987 --> 01:00:44,815
maybe he'll give me
a better gratuity.

1101
01:00:48,035 --> 01:00:50,516
You've got to weigh up
your ethics and your morals

1102
01:00:50,603 --> 01:00:52,344
within an instant in the field.

1103
01:00:52,431 --> 01:00:56,740
Everyone brands the term,
hunters are conservationists.

1104
01:00:58,176 --> 01:01:01,527
They are in that sense,
but there's lots of hunters

1105
01:01:01,614 --> 01:01:03,398
who don't stick to that.

1106
01:01:03,485 --> 01:01:07,098
And look, mistakes happen.

1107
01:01:07,185 --> 01:01:08,839
Lots of mistakes
have happened to me.

1108
01:01:08,926 --> 01:01:11,145
If someone tells me, as
a professional hunter,

1109
01:01:11,232 --> 01:01:14,496
they've never made a
mistake, they're lying.

1110
01:01:14,583 --> 01:01:16,455
I'd call them a
liar to their face.

1111
01:01:16,542 --> 01:01:18,587
You know things do happen.

1112
01:01:18,675 --> 01:01:20,285
[tense music]

1113
01:01:20,372 --> 01:01:25,377
Taking a photograph is,
you're just viewing,

1114
01:01:26,334 --> 01:01:27,858
you're not
participating in action.

1115
01:01:27,945 --> 01:01:32,427
And, the act of hunting
is not about killing.

1116
01:01:33,559 --> 01:01:36,388
It's about that
participation in nature

1117
01:01:36,475 --> 01:01:38,433
and with each individual animal.

1118
01:01:41,306 --> 01:01:43,395
We as hunters tout, you know,

1119
01:01:43,482 --> 01:01:45,223
"Hunting is conservation.

1120
01:01:46,398 --> 01:01:48,705
"It's the best form
of conservation."

1121
01:01:48,792 --> 01:01:50,532
What I've seen in my lifetime

1122
01:01:50,619 --> 01:01:54,232
is that our wilderness areas
have just been depleted.

1123
01:01:58,845 --> 01:02:00,673
- [Director] So when
you kill an animal,

1124
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:02,283
you don't think it's murder,
you don't think it's--

1125
01:02:02,370 --> 01:02:06,026
- I cry, I've hunted
lion, every lion that one

1126
01:02:06,113 --> 01:02:07,854
of my clients has taken, I cry.

1127
01:02:07,941 --> 01:02:11,684
Because I, I feel
that it's not right

1128
01:02:13,164 --> 01:02:17,821
to take that animal's life, he
has lived a life like I have.

1129
01:02:18,909 --> 01:02:22,303
[dramatic music]

1130
01:02:22,390 --> 01:02:24,828
When you're hunting antelope,
there's thousands of them.

1131
01:02:24,915 --> 01:02:27,265
So, it's not a big event.

1132
01:02:29,180 --> 01:02:34,185
The work and effort that goes
into the hunting of a lion

1133
01:02:35,273 --> 01:02:37,623
is worthy of the
respect to the animal.

1134
01:02:37,710 --> 01:02:39,059
For me, it's their life.

1135
01:02:39,146 --> 01:02:40,757
Especially a male lion,

1136
01:02:40,844 --> 01:02:44,238
they go through hardships,
they're survivors.

1137
01:02:45,283 --> 01:02:46,893
Because they get
kicked out of the pride

1138
01:02:46,980 --> 01:02:49,983
when they're two or three
years old and they have

1139
01:02:50,070 --> 01:02:52,203
to make it on their own.

1140
01:02:52,290 --> 01:02:55,946
When you find a male lion
that is past his prime,

1141
01:02:56,033 --> 01:03:00,733
when he is nine, 10 years
old, he has been through

1142
01:03:00,820 --> 01:03:05,782
so much in that span of time,
it's worthy of adoration.

1143
01:03:09,263 --> 01:03:12,310
It sounds stupid
to now go kill him,

1144
01:03:12,397 --> 01:03:15,139
but you know, that's
what we have to do.

1145
01:03:15,226 --> 01:03:17,619
That's part of the system.

1146
01:03:20,013 --> 01:03:24,409
The very first elephant
hunt I went on was

1147
01:03:24,496 --> 01:03:28,239
with my stepfather and the
number of elephants he killed

1148
01:03:28,326 --> 01:03:31,068
is insignificant to what
other people have done.

1149
01:03:32,243 --> 01:03:34,288
We didn't boast about
shooting elephants.

1150
01:03:35,855 --> 01:03:38,031
Before that, you know,
the great white hunters,

1151
01:03:38,118 --> 01:03:40,773
they were shooting
thousands of elephants.

1152
01:03:40,860 --> 01:03:43,428
They'd cut out the tusks
and cut out the heart

1153
01:03:43,515 --> 01:03:45,778
and eat that and move on.

1154
01:03:49,434 --> 01:03:52,002
- [Director] Why do people
want to eat the heart?

1155
01:03:55,005 --> 01:03:56,528
- I would not personally
shoot an elephant

1156
01:03:56,615 --> 01:03:57,834
just for its heart.

1157
01:03:59,357 --> 01:04:02,360
But it, you know that's
the best tasting part

1158
01:04:02,447 --> 01:04:03,927
of an elephant is the heart.

1159
01:04:05,363 --> 01:04:07,800
But to go and kill an
elephant just to have that,

1160
01:04:07,887 --> 01:04:11,630
no, you don't do that. [laughs]

1161
01:04:14,633 --> 01:04:17,810
With an elephant once
it's dead, it's a process.

1162
01:04:17,897 --> 01:04:19,290
You start butchering
the elephant.

1163
01:04:19,377 --> 01:04:21,466
Now to cut through
the skin takes,

1164
01:04:21,553 --> 01:04:23,555
maybe two hours to
get the skin off.

1165
01:04:24,991 --> 01:04:28,908
When you reach the heart,
it's considered a delicacy,

1166
01:04:28,995 --> 01:04:31,432
so you make a fire,
you cut it open,

1167
01:04:31,519 --> 01:04:34,131
and you start cooking
it on the fire.

1168
01:04:34,218 --> 01:04:35,610
And you put a bit of salt on it,

1169
01:04:35,697 --> 01:04:38,962
and you start cutting
little bits off of it

1170
01:04:39,049 --> 01:04:42,748
as you're working,
throughout the day.

1171
01:04:49,929 --> 01:04:51,322
I wouldn't say I despise

1172
01:04:51,409 --> 01:04:53,019
the trophy hunting
movement entirely,

1173
01:04:53,106 --> 01:04:55,674
because it does
serve some function

1174
01:04:55,761 --> 01:04:57,850
to bringing clients to Africa.

1175
01:04:57,937 --> 01:05:01,985
Hunting is not about collecting
as many animals as you can,

1176
01:05:02,072 --> 01:05:04,988
getting a gold Super
Bowl-style ring.

1177
01:05:05,075 --> 01:05:07,207
And that is what the
largest hunting club

1178
01:05:07,294 --> 01:05:09,166
in America promotes.

1179
01:05:11,777 --> 01:05:14,867
They want you to shoot as
many animals as you can

1180
01:05:14,954 --> 01:05:17,174
and then you become part
of the inner circle,

1181
01:05:17,261 --> 01:05:18,218
and you get a ring.

1182
01:05:21,352 --> 01:05:23,180
You get numerous
awards before that.

1183
01:05:26,226 --> 01:05:29,447
But that is not what
hunting is about.

1184
01:05:32,363 --> 01:05:36,497
The American hunter
thinks my 100,000 dollars

1185
01:05:36,584 --> 01:05:38,978
that I've paid, all of that goes

1186
01:05:39,065 --> 01:05:40,806
back into conservation,
it doesn't.

1187
01:05:43,722 --> 01:05:44,636
Wow, look at that.

1188
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:51,425
- Oh yeah, we have
boxes and boxes.

1189
01:05:51,512 --> 01:05:52,774
- [Director] What are those?

1190
01:05:52,861 --> 01:05:54,080
- These are elephant
hair bracelets.

1191
01:05:54,167 --> 01:05:55,821
- [Director] And
where are they from?

1192
01:05:55,908 --> 01:05:58,302
- They're the hair that comes
from an elephant's tail.

1193
01:05:59,694 --> 01:06:02,610
So they used to be very
popular, but I guess nowadays

1194
01:06:02,697 --> 01:06:06,179
they're would be a social
issue with wearing them.

1195
01:06:08,181 --> 01:06:11,576
You get about twenty
bracelets from a tail.

1196
01:06:11,663 --> 01:06:15,232
- Just this one bag would
be five or six, right?

1197
01:06:15,319 --> 01:06:20,324
Because there's a hundred,
there's 179 bracelets in here.

1198
01:06:21,499 --> 01:06:22,848
- That's what we see
the most common thing

1199
01:06:22,935 --> 01:06:24,719
on the elephant is
they chop the tusks out

1200
01:06:24,806 --> 01:06:27,679
and take the tail, those
are the two parts they take.

1201
01:06:29,507 --> 01:06:31,030
- [Director] How old
is that elephant?

1202
01:06:32,249 --> 01:06:36,993
- An adolescent, maybe
twelve, twelve years.

1203
01:06:38,342 --> 01:06:39,517
It's still a baby.

1204
01:06:40,692 --> 01:06:43,434
It's not right,
that they end up,

1205
01:06:43,521 --> 01:06:48,091
an elephant ends up for
this, to satisfy some,

1206
01:06:48,178 --> 01:06:51,094
you know, put on
someone's mantelpiece.

1207
01:06:51,181 --> 01:06:53,444
That's not what they're,
they're too majestic

1208
01:06:53,531 --> 01:06:55,750
and special to end up here.

1209
01:06:58,536 --> 01:07:00,538
[sighs]

1210
01:07:01,582 --> 01:07:04,368
[dramatic music]

1211
01:07:13,986 --> 01:07:16,554
[gun clicking]

1212
01:07:20,036 --> 01:07:22,951
[wings fluttering]

1213
01:07:25,911 --> 01:07:29,784
In terms of trophy hunting,
I don't do that anymore.

1214
01:07:29,871 --> 01:07:31,482
- [Director] But you'll
take people to Africa,

1215
01:07:31,569 --> 01:07:33,745
so, you're like a
middleman for murder.

1216
01:07:34,615 --> 01:07:36,313
- Middleman for murder?

1217
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:37,749
I guess you could
look at it that way,

1218
01:07:37,836 --> 01:07:40,447
that's an extreme
view, though. [laughs]

1219
01:07:40,534 --> 01:07:41,970
Because, what do you call it?

1220
01:07:43,842 --> 01:07:47,976
The, what do you call
it? The abattoir,

1221
01:07:48,064 --> 01:07:50,153
murderous chain is
already set up there.

1222
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:53,156
So, rather have a
good guy doing it

1223
01:07:53,243 --> 01:07:55,723
than a bad guy abusing it.

1224
01:07:59,423 --> 01:08:02,382
In Africa, it's a
different situation

1225
01:08:02,469 --> 01:08:06,343
with the trophy hunting because
the animals are utilized.

1226
01:08:06,430 --> 01:08:08,301
The finances, the
money that comes in

1227
01:08:08,388 --> 01:08:11,043
from the utilization
of those animals,

1228
01:08:11,130 --> 01:08:13,872
gets put back into
conservation...theoretically.

1229
01:08:14,742 --> 01:08:17,310
- [Director] But it doesn't.

1230
01:08:17,397 --> 01:08:19,138
Who takes the money?

1231
01:08:19,225 --> 01:08:22,272
- The majority of the money
that is made from trophy hunting

1232
01:08:23,447 --> 01:08:27,103
remains within the
government circles.

1233
01:08:27,190 --> 01:08:29,757
I would say, 70% remains

1234
01:08:29,844 --> 01:08:31,933
within the circles
of administration.

1235
01:08:36,416 --> 01:08:41,117
Game numbers are
often fabricated,

1236
01:08:41,204 --> 01:08:44,555
because if you have
high game numbers

1237
01:08:44,642 --> 01:08:48,515
it means you can
harvest more, you know.

1238
01:08:48,602 --> 01:08:52,215
So, the utilization of the money

1239
01:08:52,302 --> 01:08:57,263
that comes from hunting,
very little filters through

1240
01:09:01,006 --> 01:09:02,573
to what it's intended for.

1241
01:09:02,660 --> 01:09:06,272
It's intended to make
the communities living

1242
01:09:06,359 --> 01:09:11,321
within those hunting areas
benefit: education, medical,

1243
01:09:15,499 --> 01:09:19,590
an upliftment of their lives,
for not utilizing that land.

1244
01:09:20,895 --> 01:09:24,377
And secondly, the
conservation of the animals,

1245
01:09:24,464 --> 01:09:26,684
that money is meant to conserve.

1246
01:09:28,207 --> 01:09:31,776
- People have become much more
environmentally conscious,

1247
01:09:31,863 --> 01:09:33,517
much more green.

1248
01:09:33,604 --> 01:09:35,562
And in particular when
it comes to something

1249
01:09:35,649 --> 01:09:39,653
like African wildlife where you
read the shocking statistics

1250
01:09:39,740 --> 01:09:42,178
and people want to do
something about it.

1251
01:09:43,353 --> 01:09:46,269
So, when you're talking
about 75,000 dollars,

1252
01:09:46,356 --> 01:09:49,359
for instance to hunt an
elephant, or to hunt a lion,

1253
01:09:49,446 --> 01:09:52,100
or something like that,
most of that money

1254
01:09:52,188 --> 01:09:54,146
is actually going to
the professional hunter.

1255
01:09:54,233 --> 01:09:56,540
You've got the person
from the United States,

1256
01:09:56,627 --> 01:09:59,847
often as not, who comes
here to hunt an animal.

1257
01:09:59,934 --> 01:10:04,287
And he engages a hunting
safari operator here,

1258
01:10:04,374 --> 01:10:07,638
a professional hunter, and
the bulk of that money goes

1259
01:10:07,725 --> 01:10:11,946
to that individual: the
50, 60, 70,000 dollars.

1260
01:10:12,033 --> 01:10:14,558
And only a small portion
of that actually goes

1261
01:10:14,645 --> 01:10:17,909
to the government in
the form of the license

1262
01:10:17,996 --> 01:10:21,565
that they pay for the
right to kill an animal.

1263
01:10:21,652 --> 01:10:23,828
So, 4,500 dollars and they share

1264
01:10:23,915 --> 01:10:26,178
that between the
communities in the area

1265
01:10:26,265 --> 01:10:30,138
of the hunting concession.
So, it's peanuts.

1266
01:10:31,966 --> 01:10:34,665
You're not going to get
hundreds of thousands

1267
01:10:34,752 --> 01:10:36,101
of people coming to hunt.

1268
01:10:36,188 --> 01:10:37,450
You're going to get
hundreds of thousands

1269
01:10:37,537 --> 01:10:40,584
of people coming to
take photographs.

1270
01:10:40,671 --> 01:10:43,848
Two things actually seem
obvious, to me anyway.

1271
01:10:43,935 --> 01:10:45,806
One is that there should
be more of an emphasis

1272
01:10:45,893 --> 01:10:49,854
on photographic safari
tourism and the second

1273
01:10:49,941 --> 01:10:52,509
is that they ought
to raise the fee

1274
01:10:52,596 --> 01:10:55,338
that they charge these
hunters to come in

1275
01:10:55,425 --> 01:10:56,817
and hunt an animal.

1276
01:10:58,036 --> 01:10:59,646
So, over the span
of its lifetime,

1277
01:10:59,733 --> 01:11:01,866
a lion would generate three
and half million dollars

1278
01:11:01,953 --> 01:11:05,348
in photographic safari
tourism revenue.

1279
01:11:05,435 --> 01:11:07,350
An elephant is something
over a million.

1280
01:11:08,742 --> 01:11:10,222
But the professional hunters
have to come to terms

1281
01:11:10,309 --> 01:11:13,921
with the effects of
poaching on their industry.

1282
01:11:14,008 --> 01:11:16,489
There just aren't that
many animals left anymore.

1283
01:11:18,883 --> 01:11:22,060
- [Director] What was the
impetus to take hunting out

1284
01:11:22,147 --> 01:11:23,627
of the safari business?

1285
01:11:23,714 --> 01:11:26,064
- I have to go back
many, many years.

1286
01:11:26,151 --> 01:11:28,196
Really, it almost goes
back to my childhood.

1287
01:11:28,284 --> 01:11:30,764
I grew up in Africa,
we all hunted,

1288
01:11:30,851 --> 01:11:32,418
it was a thing we just did.

1289
01:11:34,159 --> 01:11:35,595
We hunted the Maasai Mara,

1290
01:11:35,682 --> 01:11:38,163
where the Masaai Mara
game reserve is today.

1291
01:11:38,250 --> 01:11:40,992
The climax of the whole safari
was to shoot an elephant.

1292
01:11:42,167 --> 01:11:43,821
I shot the elephant,
the elephant charged,

1293
01:11:43,908 --> 01:11:46,563
and the elephant died, literally
within a few feet of me.

1294
01:11:47,999 --> 01:11:49,566
When I saw this elephant dead,

1295
01:11:49,653 --> 01:11:53,091
it was like this horrendous
feeling came over me.

1296
01:11:53,178 --> 01:11:54,527
- [Director] Did you cry?

1297
01:11:54,614 --> 01:11:55,659
- I said, "How could
I have done this?"

1298
01:11:55,746 --> 01:11:57,356
No, I didn't cry, I just felt,

1299
01:11:57,443 --> 01:11:59,489
I just felt shocked, "How
could I have done this?"

1300
01:11:59,576 --> 01:12:00,664
Beautiful animal, dead.

1301
01:12:02,361 --> 01:12:03,928
There's something about a hunt,

1302
01:12:04,015 --> 01:12:06,409
if you've done it, which
is very, very thrilling.

1303
01:12:06,496 --> 01:12:08,367
You can't take the
higher ground here,

1304
01:12:08,454 --> 01:12:10,456
oh, it's just terrible
to hunt, you know?

1305
01:12:10,543 --> 01:12:11,762
Why do people hunt?

1306
01:12:11,849 --> 01:12:13,111
Why?

1307
01:12:13,198 --> 01:12:14,765
Because it's thrilling,
it's exciting.

1308
01:12:14,852 --> 01:12:17,594
So, I said, "Well how can
I have an exciting feeling

1309
01:12:17,681 --> 01:12:20,074
"about my safaris,
like when I was young?"

1310
01:12:20,161 --> 01:12:22,425
So, I built the first
camp in the world,

1311
01:12:22,512 --> 01:12:24,296
you see all these tented
camps all over the world?

1312
01:12:24,383 --> 01:12:25,819
Mine was the first camp ever.

1313
01:12:25,906 --> 01:12:27,038
- [Director] In Kenya?

1314
01:12:27,125 --> 01:12:28,909
- No, in the world.

1315
01:12:28,996 --> 01:12:33,349
And so I hit America, in about
1966, or '67, with a slogan:

1316
01:12:34,219 --> 01:12:36,090
Hunt with a camera, not a gun.

1317
01:12:36,177 --> 01:12:38,919
[plane roaring]

1318
01:12:39,006 --> 01:12:42,532
[soaring, uplifting music]

1319
01:12:43,533 --> 01:12:44,882
I felt like a missionary.

1320
01:12:44,969 --> 01:12:46,971
I came all over saying
"No, don't hunt!"

1321
01:12:48,407 --> 01:12:49,974
Have all the thrill of the
hunt, but at the last minute

1322
01:12:50,061 --> 01:12:53,151
instead of going
bang, you'd go pop,

1323
01:12:53,238 --> 01:12:55,022
and you'd have a
lovely picture forever.

1324
01:12:56,459 --> 01:12:58,069
And I used to go and stay
with all the people in Texas

1325
01:12:58,156 --> 01:13:00,463
and they had these huge
trophy rooms and I would say,

1326
01:13:00,550 --> 01:13:04,162
"No, this over!" "No, we're
going on our next hunt, Geoff,

1327
01:13:04,249 --> 01:13:05,642
"we're gonna do this,
why don't you come with?"

1328
01:13:05,729 --> 01:13:07,644
And I said "No, no, no,
I've got this idea."

1329
01:13:07,731 --> 01:13:09,297
And they go, "What the?

1330
01:13:09,385 --> 01:13:11,474
"That sounds so pathetic,
that's a girl's thing.

1331
01:13:11,561 --> 01:13:13,998
"Girls do photographs,
men hunt."

1332
01:13:14,085 --> 01:13:16,087
And I said, "No, no
you have it wrong."

1333
01:13:16,174 --> 01:13:17,480
So, what was better?

1334
01:13:17,567 --> 01:13:19,438
To hunt, or to go
into photography?

1335
01:13:19,525 --> 01:13:21,571
Everybody ridiculed
it, the answer was,

1336
01:13:21,658 --> 01:13:24,269
"Of course, photography!"

1337
01:13:24,356 --> 01:13:25,966
It was the best thing ever.

1338
01:13:26,053 --> 01:13:27,490
- [Narrator] For
every $1.00 invested

1339
01:13:27,577 --> 01:13:29,796
in protecting elephants
in East Africa,

1340
01:13:29,883 --> 01:13:33,365
they get back $1.78
in tourism revenue.

1341
01:13:34,584 --> 01:13:36,977
- Where are all the guys
who used to go hunting?

1342
01:13:37,064 --> 01:13:38,283
Still running around
in their Toyotas,

1343
01:13:38,370 --> 01:13:40,459
shooting a few
elephant, you know?

1344
01:13:40,546 --> 01:13:42,330
[chain breaking]

1345
01:13:42,418 --> 01:13:44,158
People who hunt always claim

1346
01:13:44,245 --> 01:13:47,248
they're the most knowledgeable
conservationists on earth.

1347
01:13:47,335 --> 01:13:49,381
They say that if
they weren't there,

1348
01:13:49,468 --> 01:13:50,643
what would happen to the land?

1349
01:13:50,730 --> 01:13:52,428
It would just go back to cattle.

1350
01:13:52,515 --> 01:13:54,604
They say, "If we weren't
there policing our concession,

1351
01:13:54,691 --> 01:13:58,085
"the poachers would come in
and eradicate all the animals."

1352
01:13:58,172 --> 01:13:59,435
When I was born,

1353
01:13:59,522 --> 01:14:01,480
there were 500,000
lions in Africa.

1354
01:14:01,567 --> 01:14:03,308
I don't know how many there are,

1355
01:14:03,395 --> 01:14:06,006
but we know 36,000 elephants
are being killed every year.

1356
01:14:06,093 --> 01:14:07,225
We know that.

1357
01:14:07,312 --> 01:14:08,879
- [Narrator] Just 20,000 lions

1358
01:14:08,966 --> 01:14:12,404
remain on the entire
African continent.

1359
01:14:12,491 --> 01:14:16,060
The continent of Africa
is as big as China, India,

1360
01:14:16,147 --> 01:14:19,890
the United States and
most of Europe combined.

1361
01:14:21,152 --> 01:14:23,328
- So, it's clearly
not sustainable,

1362
01:14:23,415 --> 01:14:24,764
if you're gonna be
shooting an animal.

1363
01:14:24,851 --> 01:14:27,419
So, how can anybody
look at me and say,

1364
01:14:27,506 --> 01:14:29,377
"I'm a professional hunter

1365
01:14:29,465 --> 01:14:31,249
"and I'm the world's
greatest conservationist."

1366
01:14:31,336 --> 01:14:33,556
There's something
missing in their brain.

1367
01:14:33,643 --> 01:14:35,079
And they gotta
wake up, actually,

1368
01:14:35,166 --> 01:14:37,473
because this is not sustainable.

1369
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:39,344
[birds tweeting]

1370
01:14:39,431 --> 01:14:42,260
- Fifty percent of the trophies
go to the United States.

1371
01:14:42,347 --> 01:14:44,349
So, we play a role in this also.

1372
01:14:45,742 --> 01:14:49,920
I guess, I'm, you know,
loathe to put all the blame

1373
01:14:50,007 --> 01:14:53,750
on any one country, but
something's got to be done.

1374
01:14:58,668 --> 01:15:00,931
Our role should be supporting

1375
01:15:01,018 --> 01:15:03,020
what African governments
themselves are doing.

1376
01:15:03,107 --> 01:15:08,112
Because if the African people,
and the African governments

1377
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:10,854
don't want to
preserve the wildlife,

1378
01:15:10,941 --> 01:15:12,769
there's really nothing that
we can do from the outside.

1379
01:15:12,856 --> 01:15:15,554
Our job actually is to
convince them that it's

1380
01:15:15,641 --> 01:15:18,688
in their best interest
to preserve these animals

1381
01:15:18,775 --> 01:15:19,602
for the future.

1382
01:15:22,387 --> 01:15:25,129
- We cannot tell
local communities,

1383
01:15:25,216 --> 01:15:29,002
"Oh, we feel that in
America or in England,

1384
01:15:29,089 --> 01:15:32,223
"that it's really bad
for them to hunt lions."

1385
01:15:32,310 --> 01:15:34,138
They'll say "Why is it
bad for us to hunt lions?

1386
01:15:34,225 --> 01:15:35,792
"They destroy, they destroy.

1387
01:15:35,879 --> 01:15:38,316
"They eat our cattle,
they're a nuisance to us."

1388
01:15:38,403 --> 01:15:40,536
But if you can convince
them, "No, that lion

1389
01:15:40,623 --> 01:15:42,625
"is no longer a nuisance
to you, it's going

1390
01:15:42,712 --> 01:15:44,627
"to bring these
amount of people.

1391
01:15:44,714 --> 01:15:47,630
"Even if it kills a cow
now and again, so what?

1392
01:15:47,717 --> 01:15:49,153
"This is what it brings in."

1393
01:15:50,415 --> 01:15:53,070
But it has to go to the people,

1394
01:15:53,157 --> 01:15:55,812
the people have
to get the money.

1395
01:15:55,899 --> 01:15:58,510
[upbeat music]

1396
01:16:00,512 --> 01:16:03,559
[Baka women sing]

1397
01:16:19,139 --> 01:16:21,185
[tense music]

1398
01:16:21,272 --> 01:16:24,841
- They did a study of the use
of the forest by Baka people.

1399
01:16:24,928 --> 01:16:29,280
The areas that were most
important to the Baka people

1400
01:16:29,367 --> 01:16:32,892
are the areas where the
ape density was greatest.

1401
01:16:32,979 --> 01:16:36,026
So, when traditional
dwelling humans in forests

1402
01:16:36,113 --> 01:16:38,898
share their forests with
apes, even if sometimes apes

1403
01:16:38,985 --> 01:16:43,033
are killed, for some special
occasion, the apes do great

1404
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:45,818
and the forest is healthy
and the people live there.

1405
01:16:47,167 --> 01:16:48,212
- [Narrator] The
Baka people have

1406
01:16:48,299 --> 01:16:50,475
over 15 words for elephant.

1407
01:16:51,781 --> 01:16:54,566
- If the argument is
that, we need the wealth

1408
01:16:54,653 --> 01:16:57,264
under the land, the
diamonds, minerals,

1409
01:16:57,351 --> 01:16:59,005
petroleum, and so forth.

1410
01:16:59,092 --> 01:17:00,833
If you look at the countries,

1411
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:04,402
which have the most valuable
of these resources in Africa,

1412
01:17:04,489 --> 01:17:06,447
say, where they've
been exploited already

1413
01:17:06,534 --> 01:17:08,319
for a hundred years or more.

1414
01:17:08,406 --> 01:17:11,235
These are still amongst the
poorest countries in the world.

1415
01:17:11,322 --> 01:17:14,020
So, it hasn't benefited
the local people.

1416
01:17:16,370 --> 01:17:18,895
It is colonialism to remove
people from their land,

1417
01:17:18,982 --> 01:17:22,855
and it's also racist,
and it's also illegal.

1418
01:17:24,335 --> 01:17:27,294
And it's time to respect
the people who have lived

1419
01:17:27,381 --> 01:17:30,515
in these places for,
for essentially forever

1420
01:17:30,602 --> 01:17:32,996
and to accept the fact
that they have rights,

1421
01:17:33,083 --> 01:17:36,216
just like we claim
for ourselves.

1422
01:17:38,175 --> 01:17:40,177
In Cameroon there's
still parks being created

1423
01:17:40,264 --> 01:17:41,918
and other protected zones.

1424
01:17:42,005 --> 01:17:43,746
Some of them are
for trophy hunting.

1425
01:17:43,833 --> 01:17:45,530
So if you pay a lot
of money you can go

1426
01:17:45,617 --> 01:17:49,099
and hunt a forest
elephant, for example.

1427
01:17:49,186 --> 01:17:51,971
Although that's actually
an endangered species.

1428
01:17:52,058 --> 01:17:55,366
There are areas, which
are adjacent to the parks,

1429
01:17:55,453 --> 01:17:58,282
which are so-called protected,
some are for logging,

1430
01:17:58,369 --> 01:18:00,414
some are for trophy hunting.

1431
01:18:01,589 --> 01:18:05,768
The Baka are evicted
and pushed to the edge

1432
01:18:05,855 --> 01:18:07,204
and outside the park,

1433
01:18:07,291 --> 01:18:10,033
where their society
is entirely smashed.

1434
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:14,211
They turn to drink,
there are no jobs.

1435
01:18:14,298 --> 01:18:18,084
It's not as if we're offering
these people an alternative.

1436
01:18:18,171 --> 01:18:19,433
Tribal peoples have lived

1437
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:21,305
on these lands
essentially forever.

1438
01:18:22,741 --> 01:18:26,049
The Baka, so-called pygmies,
they are stewards of the land.

1439
01:18:26,136 --> 01:18:29,661
They know how to look
after it and how to look

1440
01:18:29,748 --> 01:18:31,228
after the animals,
which they use,

1441
01:18:31,315 --> 01:18:32,751
including the ones they hunt.

1442
01:18:34,579 --> 01:18:38,496
[speaking in Baka language]

1443
01:19:00,866 --> 01:19:03,434
We're stealing their land
in order to set up parks

1444
01:19:05,958 --> 01:19:08,482
and to satisfy conservationists
and for tourism.

1445
01:19:10,180 --> 01:19:12,051
Lodges are built,
roads are built.

1446
01:19:13,487 --> 01:19:15,228
There is often harassment
of the animals.

1447
01:19:19,015 --> 01:19:19,842
And that is actually
extremely dangerous

1448
01:19:21,539 --> 01:19:22,758
because it makes them more
likely to attack people

1449
01:19:22,845 --> 01:19:22,932
if people are
outside the vehicles.

1450
01:19:28,024 --> 01:19:30,243
Whereas formerly they
would have just run away

1451
01:19:30,330 --> 01:19:32,028
and avoided people all together,

1452
01:19:32,115 --> 01:19:34,726
so it changes animal behavior.

1453
01:19:37,729 --> 01:19:42,734
There's several layers of this
con trick in conservation.

1454
01:19:44,127 --> 01:19:46,346
One is that these lands are
empty of peoples when in fact,

1455
01:19:46,433 --> 01:19:48,827
they've been emptied
of peoples, forcibly,

1456
01:19:48,914 --> 01:19:51,264
often to make the
conservation zones.

1457
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:56,313
[speaking in Baka language]

1458
01:21:02,074 --> 01:21:05,295
Another is that the outside
conservationists are somehow

1459
01:21:05,382 --> 01:21:08,951
or other better at
preserving the environment,

1460
01:21:09,038 --> 01:21:11,257
preserving the eco-diversity,

1461
01:21:11,344 --> 01:21:13,129
than the people who live there.

1462
01:21:13,216 --> 01:21:16,784
And actually there's almost
no scientific evidence

1463
01:21:16,872 --> 01:21:19,048
to support that and
the scientific evidence

1464
01:21:19,135 --> 01:21:21,964
is in actually completely
the other direction.

1465
01:21:22,051 --> 01:21:24,792
[dramatic music]

1466
01:21:26,751 --> 01:21:28,971
[splashing]
[elephant trumpeting

1467
01:21:29,058 --> 01:21:31,756
- What we need to do is
make sure that businesses

1468
01:21:31,843 --> 01:21:34,324
are doing what people
want and what people want

1469
01:21:34,411 --> 01:21:38,458
is to have a world, which is
looking after their interests,

1470
01:21:38,545 --> 01:21:39,851
is looking after
nature's interests,

1471
01:21:39,938 --> 01:21:41,679
is looking after
society's interests.

1472
01:21:42,854 --> 01:21:44,508
One of the solutions
that we can bring

1473
01:21:44,595 --> 01:21:48,077
into this complex problem
is around natural capital.

1474
01:21:49,556 --> 01:21:52,342
And this model that we used
to have, of cutting it off,

1475
01:21:52,429 --> 01:21:54,910
fencing it off, making
sure that it was protected.

1476
01:21:54,997 --> 01:21:58,348
Conserving, that
word conservation is
about protecting it,

1477
01:21:58,435 --> 01:21:59,610
and making sure
no one goes there.

1478
01:21:59,697 --> 01:22:01,177
That isn't conservation.

1479
01:22:01,264 --> 01:22:03,266
Conservation is making
sure we're understanding

1480
01:22:03,353 --> 01:22:06,922
how dependent we are on it,
the benefits it gives us.

1481
01:22:08,793 --> 01:22:13,537
So, the idea that we should
have control over it,

1482
01:22:13,624 --> 01:22:16,540
we should fence it off,
means that we have to keep on

1483
01:22:16,627 --> 01:22:18,237
paying to protect it.

1484
01:22:18,324 --> 01:22:20,022
So, we work with the
local people, we work

1485
01:22:20,109 --> 01:22:22,763
with the local animals,
the local species.

1486
01:22:22,850 --> 01:22:24,374
If we can work with them,

1487
01:22:24,461 --> 01:22:27,116
then it ends up becoming
self-sustaining.

1488
01:22:27,203 --> 01:22:30,554
Otherwise we end up having to
pay all the time to protect.

1489
01:22:30,641 --> 01:22:31,990
We have to pay for rangers,

1490
01:22:32,077 --> 01:22:33,818
we have to pay for
protections systems.

1491
01:22:33,905 --> 01:22:36,952
But we can only do that if
we can understand the value

1492
01:22:37,039 --> 01:22:38,692
that it's delivering to us.

1493
01:22:38,779 --> 01:22:41,739
Otherwise what is the
cost of doing that?

1494
01:22:41,826 --> 01:22:44,524
How do we fit that
in our conversation?

1495
01:22:45,656 --> 01:22:48,528
[chimp screeching]

1496
01:22:57,320 --> 01:23:02,325
- The chimpanzees were really
very helpful in helping me

1497
01:23:03,848 --> 01:23:06,851
to convince, particularly
the scientific community,

1498
01:23:06,938 --> 01:23:09,680
but other people as well,
that we humans are part

1499
01:23:09,767 --> 01:23:12,248
of the animal kingdom.
Because chimpanzees

1500
01:23:12,335 --> 01:23:14,163
are our closest
living relatives.

1501
01:23:14,250 --> 01:23:18,428
And so when you then see
similarities in behavior

1502
01:23:18,515 --> 01:23:20,082
it's pretty easy
for people to say,

1503
01:23:20,169 --> 01:23:23,259
"Well yes, when chimpanzees
kiss and embrace

1504
01:23:23,346 --> 01:23:26,479
"and hold hands and
pat one another,

1505
01:23:26,566 --> 01:23:30,614
"they're probably feeling
similar emotions to us."

1506
01:23:30,701 --> 01:23:33,486
When you see a chimpanzee
mother grieving the loss

1507
01:23:33,573 --> 01:23:36,098
of her child, it's
pretty easy to say,

1508
01:23:36,185 --> 01:23:39,536
"Well, the way they feel grief
must be similar to ours."

1509
01:23:40,580 --> 01:23:42,713
- Jane Goodall
described a phenomenon

1510
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:44,410
that's found in Western
and Central Africa

1511
01:23:44,497 --> 01:23:46,151
called Empty Forest Syndrome.

1512
01:23:46,238 --> 01:23:48,588
And it's where the
forest is standing,

1513
01:23:48,675 --> 01:23:51,113
but the wildlife has
largely disappeared.

1514
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:52,853
Why?

1515
01:23:52,940 --> 01:23:56,161
And the answer to that is,
through the indiscriminate,

1516
01:23:56,248 --> 01:23:59,773
commercial-scale hunting
of wildlife for bush meat.

1517
01:23:59,860 --> 01:24:03,081
Wire snares are set to catch,
maybe they're set to catch

1518
01:24:03,168 --> 01:24:06,911
small antelopes, but wire
snares will catch anything.

1519
01:24:06,998 --> 01:24:09,653
Any animal that goes in
that will kill itself

1520
01:24:09,740 --> 01:24:10,567
in its struggle to escape.

1521
01:24:12,264 --> 01:24:15,050
[gorilla breathing]

1522
01:24:17,748 --> 01:24:19,750
- They've already
got two snares here

1523
01:24:21,230 --> 01:24:24,102
where they set their traps
on the routes of the animals

1524
01:24:24,189 --> 01:24:25,625
when the animals
are going this way.

1525
01:24:25,712 --> 01:24:27,845
They are going to the water.

1526
01:24:27,932 --> 01:24:30,761
So they merely
locate their snares

1527
01:24:32,023 --> 01:24:33,590
where specifically on
the route of the animals

1528
01:24:33,677 --> 01:24:35,592
where they usually go to water.

1529
01:24:39,030 --> 01:24:41,163
- What the poacher will
do, they have a game trail,

1530
01:24:41,250 --> 01:24:43,121
and they set it across
trail like that.

1531
01:24:43,208 --> 01:24:45,950
With this end
attached to a tree.

1532
01:24:46,037 --> 01:24:47,691
So the animal will come through,

1533
01:24:47,778 --> 01:24:49,867
they'll be foliage put on
each side to disguise it,

1534
01:24:49,954 --> 01:24:53,436
it puts its head through
and it's just a slipknot.

1535
01:24:54,611 --> 01:24:57,527
And as it goes forward
it just tightens,

1536
01:24:58,789 --> 01:25:00,617
and as it pulls it
just strangles it.

1537
01:25:02,445 --> 01:25:04,838
Sometimes they can take
hours and hours to die.

1538
01:25:08,625 --> 01:25:10,235
- And why are they set?

1539
01:25:10,322 --> 01:25:11,889
They're set for bush meat.

1540
01:25:11,976 --> 01:25:14,283
The bush meat is then
sold in commercial centers

1541
01:25:15,719 --> 01:25:18,461
and the people who do the
poaching are making a killing.

1542
01:25:18,548 --> 01:25:20,158
A killing because
they kill the animals.

1543
01:25:20,245 --> 01:25:22,552
But also, they didn't
raise the animal,

1544
01:25:22,639 --> 01:25:25,381
they didn't have it
inoculated, they didn't feed it

1545
01:25:25,468 --> 01:25:26,512
when there was a drought.

1546
01:25:26,599 --> 01:25:28,906
Their cost is simply the piece

1547
01:25:28,993 --> 01:25:32,257
of wire that they probably
stole off someone else's fence

1548
01:25:32,344 --> 01:25:34,825
to kill this particular animal.

1549
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:37,567
And the other thing
is that bush meat

1550
01:25:37,654 --> 01:25:40,700
represents a potential
risk to human populations.

1551
01:25:40,787 --> 01:25:42,702
It could be riddled
with anthrax.

1552
01:25:42,789 --> 01:25:46,053
So, bush meat is a killer,
whichever way you look at it.

1553
01:25:46,141 --> 01:25:47,751
[tense music]

1554
01:25:47,838 --> 01:25:50,275
- If the hunting can be
controlled to some extent,

1555
01:25:50,362 --> 01:25:53,148
a lot of these
primate populations

1556
01:25:53,235 --> 01:25:55,106
have a good chance of surviving.

1557
01:25:55,193 --> 01:25:56,716
The big problem now

1558
01:25:56,803 --> 01:25:59,066
is this largely uncontrolled
bush meat hunting.

1559
01:25:59,154 --> 01:26:01,112
And it's not a
subsistence issue.

1560
01:26:01,199 --> 01:26:06,161
It's really, it's a luxury
trade, where chimp meat

1561
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:09,381
or gorilla meat or monkey
meat in the capital city

1562
01:26:09,468 --> 01:26:12,428
sells for more than beef or
chicken or fish, in many cases.

1563
01:26:12,515 --> 01:26:16,997
So, it's really,
really hard to control.

1564
01:26:17,084 --> 01:26:20,262
Within remaining forest
areas, the poaching,

1565
01:26:20,349 --> 01:26:22,568
whether it's for hunting
or for wildlife trade,

1566
01:26:22,655 --> 01:26:25,354
it's just eliminating
the vast majority

1567
01:26:25,441 --> 01:26:27,051
of species larger than a rat.

1568
01:26:30,489 --> 01:26:32,274
So, you can go into the
forests in the Amazon

1569
01:26:32,361 --> 01:26:34,101
and you can go into forests,

1570
01:26:34,189 --> 01:26:36,278
certainly in Central and West
Africa where there's nothing.

1571
01:26:36,365 --> 01:26:38,323
Nice forest, but nothing.

1572
01:26:40,369 --> 01:26:42,849
- [Ian] This is an animated
weather map of rainfall

1573
01:26:42,936 --> 01:26:45,504
around the world, the
white is water vapor,

1574
01:26:45,591 --> 01:26:48,115
the orange-y bits are storms.

1575
01:26:48,203 --> 01:26:50,292
And every day it rains
in the Congo basin,

1576
01:26:50,379 --> 01:26:52,511
so that big pulsing in
the middle of Africa

1577
01:26:52,598 --> 01:26:54,296
is the daily rainfall.

1578
01:26:54,383 --> 01:26:57,342
We're all benefiting from
the ecosystem services

1579
01:26:57,429 --> 01:26:59,866
provided by these
forests in the tropics.

1580
01:27:01,041 --> 01:27:03,000
And the animals that
play a keystone role

1581
01:27:03,087 --> 01:27:05,220
in those forests
need our protection

1582
01:27:05,307 --> 01:27:06,917
because we want to continue

1583
01:27:07,004 --> 01:27:10,573
to have this global water
distribution system acting

1584
01:27:10,660 --> 01:27:12,183
as sort of a biotic pump.

1585
01:27:14,316 --> 01:27:16,840
- When we started, I was
basically a journalist

1586
01:27:16,927 --> 01:27:18,929
trying to start about
extinction of apes.

1587
01:27:20,583 --> 01:27:23,629
It was very easy to
see the consequences

1588
01:27:23,716 --> 01:27:28,721
of this illegal trade in body
parts of chimps and gorillas

1589
01:27:30,767 --> 01:27:35,119
being sold to the rich and the
powerful in Central Africa.

1590
01:27:36,425 --> 01:27:38,688
It was also very easy
to see that the law

1591
01:27:38,775 --> 01:27:41,343
was never enforced because
those that were actually

1592
01:27:41,430 --> 01:27:43,823
behind those trades are
the same police officers

1593
01:27:43,910 --> 01:27:45,477
and wildlife officers
that were in charge

1594
01:27:45,564 --> 01:27:46,957
of applying the law.

1595
01:27:47,044 --> 01:27:49,873
In fact, it was zero
wildlife prosecutions

1596
01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:51,918
for all the time the
law was in place.

1597
01:27:53,746 --> 01:27:57,010
And I went on research
outside of the capital,

1598
01:27:57,097 --> 01:27:59,012
where people were
telling me straight:

1599
01:27:59,099 --> 01:28:02,538
"Hey, we have chimp meat being
sold here and gorilla's meat

1600
01:28:02,625 --> 01:28:05,889
"being sold here, and we
also have two live ones."

1601
01:28:05,976 --> 01:28:07,847
And I said, "What
is this live ones?"

1602
01:28:07,934 --> 01:28:09,632
And these are
basically the survivors

1603
01:28:09,719 --> 01:28:11,895
of the bush meat trade, the
survivors of the killing

1604
01:28:11,982 --> 01:28:13,157
of their entire family.

1605
01:28:14,811 --> 01:28:17,901
So, a poacher can kill
different family of apes,

1606
01:28:17,988 --> 01:28:19,642
family of chimps, let's say.

1607
01:28:19,729 --> 01:28:22,209
Then he would have a baby chimp.

1608
01:28:22,297 --> 01:28:25,038
A baby chimp stays on
the back of its mother

1609
01:28:25,125 --> 01:28:27,084
for the first three
years of his life.

1610
01:28:27,171 --> 01:28:31,393
So if the mother falls from
the tree dead, the baby,

1611
01:28:31,480 --> 01:28:33,917
dependent, doesn't run
away, he just clings

1612
01:28:34,004 --> 01:28:37,616
to the mother's body
and starts crying.

1613
01:28:37,703 --> 01:28:39,488
Poachers will hold in his hand.

1614
01:28:40,619 --> 01:28:42,491
Maybe he could kill
it for the meat on it,

1615
01:28:42,578 --> 01:28:45,102
and sell the meat,
or maybe he can sell,

1616
01:28:45,189 --> 01:28:47,191
or let's try my luck
in the pet trade.

1617
01:28:50,020 --> 01:28:52,414
So, here I was in front of
traffickers who were trying

1618
01:28:52,501 --> 01:28:57,114
to sell me a baby
chimp, abused, tiny,

1619
01:28:57,201 --> 01:29:00,509
one and half years old
baby, about to die.

1620
01:29:01,684 --> 01:29:03,642
I went to the wildlife
station and I said,

1621
01:29:03,729 --> 01:29:05,905
"Listen, apply the law,
there is a baby chimp here

1622
01:29:05,992 --> 01:29:09,344
that can be saved, this
baby chimp can outlive me.

1623
01:29:10,693 --> 01:29:13,957
"So, please let's do something,
let's get the law applied."

1624
01:29:14,044 --> 01:29:16,089
All they wanted was bribes.

1625
01:29:17,700 --> 01:29:19,354
I knew I had to do something.

1626
01:29:19,441 --> 01:29:23,227
Because all of this anger
I had against corruption,

1627
01:29:23,314 --> 01:29:26,143
lack of application of
the law, was right now

1628
01:29:26,230 --> 01:29:29,364
in the face of this baby chimp.

1629
01:29:31,366 --> 01:29:33,629
The following morning
I took a book of law,

1630
01:29:33,716 --> 01:29:36,240
I went to the big house
of these traffickers,

1631
01:29:36,327 --> 01:29:38,895
and I showed them, three
years imprisonment.

1632
01:29:40,157 --> 01:29:41,854
And they were
totally unimpressed.

1633
01:29:43,378 --> 01:29:46,119
And I said, "Well, you know I
know this is nothing for you,

1634
01:29:46,206 --> 01:29:49,688
because with three dollars
bribe you can get away with it."

1635
01:29:51,081 --> 01:29:52,865
Then I started bluffing them.

1636
01:29:52,952 --> 01:29:55,085
And I said, "I am part of this
huge, big international NGO,

1637
01:29:55,172 --> 01:29:57,696
and we are here to
fight corruption,

1638
01:29:57,783 --> 01:29:59,829
to get the law applied,
that's my new job."

1639
01:29:59,916 --> 01:30:01,265
And at that point
they just wanted

1640
01:30:01,352 --> 01:30:03,267
to get rid of the baby chimp.

1641
01:30:03,354 --> 01:30:07,489
I untied him from his ropes,
and I stretched my arms out,

1642
01:30:07,576 --> 01:30:11,144
and he just climbed my body
and gave me one big hug.

1643
01:30:12,581 --> 01:30:17,150
Once I gave him a hug,
he was again transformed,

1644
01:30:18,369 --> 01:30:19,892
back to a baby, a baby
with emotional needs.

1645
01:30:21,981 --> 01:30:25,420
And that hug became
a permanent hug,

1646
01:30:25,507 --> 01:30:28,423
because this baby chimp
basically adopted me.

1647
01:30:29,380 --> 01:30:32,122
[chimp laughing]

1648
01:30:42,828 --> 01:30:45,004
[metal clinking]

1649
01:30:45,091 --> 01:30:47,442
So, I called this
baby chimp 'Future'.

1650
01:30:47,529 --> 01:30:49,226
And I realized at that point,

1651
01:30:49,313 --> 01:30:50,880
that I can actually fight

1652
01:30:50,967 --> 01:30:54,231
not just for a future of
a small, one baby chimp,

1653
01:30:54,318 --> 01:30:55,928
but for the future
of his species.

1654
01:30:56,015 --> 01:30:58,278
We are in the middle of
a fight, a serious fight.

1655
01:30:59,497 --> 01:31:01,412
But I can get a
good night's sleep

1656
01:31:01,499 --> 01:31:04,981
if I know that we got one more
major trafficker behind bars,

1657
01:31:05,068 --> 01:31:06,939
one more official,
corrupt official

1658
01:31:07,026 --> 01:31:08,724
that actually paid
for his crimes.

1659
01:31:15,818 --> 01:31:20,083
- It's commercial gangs,
organized commercial gangs

1660
01:31:20,170 --> 01:31:22,477
of meat poachers,
doing it for profit,

1661
01:31:22,564 --> 01:31:24,479
'cause it's something
for nothing.

1662
01:31:24,566 --> 01:31:26,045
And it's the big cattle barons.

1663
01:31:26,132 --> 01:31:28,526
What you have to remember
about East Africa

1664
01:31:28,613 --> 01:31:30,963
is that it's the Wild West.

1665
01:31:31,050 --> 01:31:33,009
You know, you ever
seen a cowboy movie?

1666
01:31:33,096 --> 01:31:34,793
What's it all about?

1667
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:37,927
You know, move west, young
man, there's gold down there.

1668
01:31:38,014 --> 01:31:39,972
And in the cowboy
movies you see them.

1669
01:31:40,059 --> 01:31:42,409
With these huge herds of
cattle moving. And in front

1670
01:31:42,497 --> 01:31:46,196
of that stock everything had
to go, Native American tribes,

1671
01:31:46,283 --> 01:31:49,765
wild animals, forests, rivers,
whatever, it was destroyed.

1672
01:31:49,852 --> 01:31:51,549
And that's what's
happening to us.

1673
01:31:54,204 --> 01:31:55,292
- So we're protecting gorillas,

1674
01:31:55,379 --> 01:31:56,598
we're protecting elephants,

1675
01:31:56,685 --> 01:31:57,599
we're trying to
protect orangutans.

1676
01:31:57,686 --> 01:31:59,339
But we're losing.

1677
01:31:59,426 --> 01:32:01,516
Because when we raise money
for NGOs, for organizations

1678
01:32:01,603 --> 01:32:03,953
to support the efforts
of government agencies

1679
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:06,651
that are trying to
protect these forests.

1680
01:32:06,738 --> 01:32:09,436
We're thinking in terms of
tens, or hundreds of thousands,

1681
01:32:09,524 --> 01:32:11,656
bigger NGOs maybe low millions.

1682
01:32:11,743 --> 01:32:15,442
At the same time corporations
are spending billions

1683
01:32:15,530 --> 01:32:19,316
of dollars to develop
those same lands.

1684
01:32:19,403 --> 01:32:21,623
And the Ministers that
come to our UN meetings

1685
01:32:21,710 --> 01:32:24,887
and sign agreements to protect
apes, are often trumped

1686
01:32:24,974 --> 01:32:27,629
by the more powerful
Ministers of Agriculture

1687
01:32:27,716 --> 01:32:30,153
and Land Development, who
want the mines to develop

1688
01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:31,981
or want the roads to be
put through the forest.

1689
01:32:32,068 --> 01:32:34,940
Even though opening the
forest begins the degradation

1690
01:32:35,027 --> 01:32:37,247
that results in extinction.

1691
01:32:37,334 --> 01:32:40,076
[dramatic music]

1692
01:32:44,428 --> 01:32:46,996
- [Eric] With elephant
tusks and with rhino horns,

1693
01:32:47,083 --> 01:32:50,869
it's a more complicated issue,
it really is, it's a war.

1694
01:32:53,263 --> 01:32:56,527
A place like Kafue is kind
of ground zero in that war.

1695
01:32:56,614 --> 01:32:59,312
And the only way that
the Zambian government

1696
01:32:59,399 --> 01:33:02,359
is going to win that war
is with help from outside

1697
01:33:02,446 --> 01:33:05,362
and with devoting
more resources itself.

1698
01:33:08,626 --> 01:33:10,759
I think it's very positive
that the government

1699
01:33:10,846 --> 01:33:13,762
understands that it has a
crisis and that it needs

1700
01:33:13,849 --> 01:33:15,677
to take drastic
measures to address it.

1701
01:33:15,764 --> 01:33:17,940
And certainly deploying
the Zambian military

1702
01:33:18,027 --> 01:33:21,465
to deal with poaching
would be a drastic measure.

1703
01:33:21,552 --> 01:33:23,772
But it could be that the
situation merits that.

1704
01:33:23,859 --> 01:33:27,776
That it needs to take
such as drastic step.

1705
01:33:28,733 --> 01:33:31,475
[peaceful music]

1706
01:33:45,141 --> 01:33:48,187
- I don't think it's a
question of them not caring

1707
01:33:48,274 --> 01:33:50,189
about the wildlife. I
think it's a question

1708
01:33:50,276 --> 01:33:54,498
of them not knowing what is
going on with their wildlife.

1709
01:33:56,152 --> 01:33:59,634
I'd like to think that as proud
Africans and proud Zambians,

1710
01:33:59,721 --> 01:34:02,158
our life is more
important than money.

1711
01:34:03,942 --> 01:34:06,336
How can we get the
community to be involved

1712
01:34:06,423 --> 01:34:09,992
to benefit from safari hunting?

1713
01:34:10,079 --> 01:34:12,516
So, that they're not
tempted to poach?

1714
01:34:23,048 --> 01:34:28,053
[splashing]
[birds squawking]

1715
01:34:30,665 --> 01:34:34,103
We were sitting at the
camp and I was sitting

1716
01:34:34,190 --> 01:34:38,934
near the radio, and a game
scout radioed in to say

1717
01:34:39,021 --> 01:34:44,026
that he heard four shots, and
of course, the game scouts

1718
01:34:46,419 --> 01:34:50,946
were told to go and
investigate what was happening.

1719
01:34:51,033 --> 01:34:53,470
And the game scouts went
and they spent a night

1720
01:34:53,557 --> 01:34:55,124
in the bush and the
following morning

1721
01:34:55,211 --> 01:34:57,300
they found the elephants.

1722
01:34:57,387 --> 01:34:59,824
And it was a long
weekend, so I think

1723
01:34:59,911 --> 01:35:01,826
that was a Sunday when
the shots were heard,

1724
01:35:01,913 --> 01:35:03,523
the four shots were heard.

1725
01:35:03,610 --> 01:35:06,788
And the Monday morning,
the game scouts reported,

1726
01:35:06,875 --> 01:35:09,312
and we heard over the
radio that it was reported

1727
01:35:09,399 --> 01:35:11,967
that they found
three elephant down.

1728
01:35:12,054 --> 01:35:14,317
And so I jumped into my car

1729
01:35:14,404 --> 01:35:16,972
and I followed the
game scouts to go

1730
01:35:17,059 --> 01:35:18,538
and see what was happening.

1731
01:35:18,625 --> 01:35:21,498
And I took the pictures,
and I was so devastated.

1732
01:35:21,585 --> 01:35:22,847
- [Ranger] So this poor thing

1733
01:35:22,934 --> 01:35:25,241
has been suffering
the whole time?

1734
01:35:28,157 --> 01:35:30,812
[flies buzzing]

1735
01:35:34,641 --> 01:35:37,644
[elephant groaning]

1736
01:35:43,825 --> 01:35:45,565
- I was weeping openly.

1737
01:35:45,652 --> 01:35:47,742
The game scouts were horrified.

1738
01:35:47,829 --> 01:35:50,179
I don't think there was not
one person who stood there,

1739
01:35:50,266 --> 01:35:53,530
including the game scouts,
that didn't drop a tear.

1740
01:35:53,617 --> 01:35:55,662
It was beyond everybody.

1741
01:35:55,750 --> 01:35:57,839
It was so, so sad.

1742
01:35:57,926 --> 01:36:00,363
Especially that she
was a lactating mother.

1743
01:36:00,450 --> 01:36:03,192
She was a lactating mother
with two small babies.

1744
01:36:03,279 --> 01:36:05,020
The tusks were barely that size.

1745
01:36:05,107 --> 01:36:08,066
They killed an elephant
that takes a gestation

1746
01:36:08,153 --> 01:36:11,722
of 18 months and in
another eighteen months

1747
01:36:11,809 --> 01:36:13,942
to make a tusk that size.

1748
01:36:14,029 --> 01:36:16,814
Even the game scouts
were devastated.

1749
01:36:16,901 --> 01:36:19,643
[dramatic music]

1750
01:36:22,951 --> 01:36:26,868
- That is actual slaughter of
an elephant that is put down,

1751
01:36:26,955 --> 01:36:30,175
still alive as the tusk
is carved out of its face.

1752
01:36:30,262 --> 01:36:34,136
Purely so that you can
have a trinket, right?

1753
01:36:34,223 --> 01:36:36,355
It's beautiful artwork.

1754
01:36:36,442 --> 01:36:38,749
This craftsmanship is exquisite,

1755
01:36:38,836 --> 01:36:41,665
but they used a critically
endangered species to do it.

1756
01:36:44,450 --> 01:36:49,455
Wildlife crime is a crime
that is very low risk

1757
01:36:50,326 --> 01:36:51,806
and very high monetary value.

1758
01:36:51,893 --> 01:36:53,459
It's currently estimated

1759
01:36:53,546 --> 01:36:56,027
at a nineteen billion
dollar industry, annually.

1760
01:36:56,114 --> 01:36:59,639
And the fact that the
sentence really is just a slap

1761
01:36:59,726 --> 01:37:01,598
on the wrist for people
that are making millions

1762
01:37:01,685 --> 01:37:04,253
and millions of dollars off
of everybody's wildlife.

1763
01:37:07,691 --> 01:37:10,346
- Well, you know, the sad
thing is they will shoot them

1764
01:37:10,433 --> 01:37:13,044
in the knees to slow
them down or to try

1765
01:37:13,131 --> 01:37:14,785
to stop them from charging.

1766
01:37:14,872 --> 01:37:16,831
You know because this, it's
not likely they're gonna

1767
01:37:16,918 --> 01:37:18,658
get this into the brain, but
they can get it into the legs

1768
01:37:18,745 --> 01:37:20,356
to maybe make them stumble,

1769
01:37:20,443 --> 01:37:22,793
fall and not be able to
charge them or trample them.

1770
01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:24,316
Because it doesn't take much to,

1771
01:37:24,403 --> 01:37:27,798
you know, what does an
elephant weigh, a ton?

1772
01:37:27,885 --> 01:37:29,147
- Eight.
- Eight tons.

1773
01:37:29,234 --> 01:37:30,801
That thing steps on
you, you're dead.

1774
01:37:30,888 --> 01:37:33,717
So, I would imagine
that's probably with an AK

1775
01:37:33,804 --> 01:37:35,545
that's probably their
best effort is to just try

1776
01:37:35,632 --> 01:37:37,852
to shoot the legs
to get 'em to stop.

1777
01:37:37,939 --> 01:37:41,159
And then I don't, from
what I've heard they

1778
01:37:41,246 --> 01:37:43,640
just go up and they just
basically take a machete

1779
01:37:43,727 --> 01:37:46,295
or chainsaw and it's
like, man, I don't.

1780
01:37:46,382 --> 01:37:47,905
How somebody could do something

1781
01:37:47,992 --> 01:37:50,386
like that I just don't know.

1782
01:37:51,953 --> 01:37:53,389
- [Azad] The
animals being driven

1783
01:37:53,476 --> 01:37:55,826
to extinction
affects everything.

1784
01:37:55,913 --> 01:37:57,654
This is a not an
African problem.

1785
01:37:57,741 --> 01:37:59,874
But everyone says" "Poaching
is a problem for Africa."

1786
01:37:59,961 --> 01:38:01,136
No, it's not.

1787
01:38:01,223 --> 01:38:02,137
No, it's not.

1788
01:38:02,224 --> 01:38:03,312
This affects you.

1789
01:38:06,576 --> 01:38:10,928
- [Jane] The current rate
of killing of elephants

1790
01:38:11,015 --> 01:38:14,627
is actually worse
than in the 1980s,

1791
01:38:14,714 --> 01:38:17,456
because the price
of ivory has soared.

1792
01:38:17,543 --> 01:38:18,849
You know so many elephants,

1793
01:38:18,936 --> 01:38:20,372
they're reckoning one elephant

1794
01:38:20,459 --> 01:38:22,679
every 15 minutes across Africa.

1795
01:38:22,766 --> 01:38:25,464
And this is completely
unsustainable.

1796
01:38:25,551 --> 01:38:27,510
So, that some
populations are already

1797
01:38:27,597 --> 01:38:29,512
on the road to extinction.

1798
01:38:29,599 --> 01:38:34,604
And if we don't stop this
terrible poaching soon,

1799
01:38:35,735 --> 01:38:38,869
we may actually lose
this most extraordinary

1800
01:38:38,956 --> 01:38:41,437
and amazing of land mammals.

1801
01:38:47,095 --> 01:38:50,707
- I think we are coming
to a cultural change here.

1802
01:38:50,794 --> 01:38:54,145
One of those changes
is collaboration.

1803
01:38:54,232 --> 01:38:56,408
What we now need to do
is have a Renaissance

1804
01:38:56,495 --> 01:38:59,237
of bringing people
back together.

1805
01:39:08,943 --> 01:39:13,251
[laughs]
[speaking Sangho language]

1806
01:39:13,338 --> 01:39:18,169
We are part of a system
here and not just some being

1807
01:39:18,256 --> 01:39:19,866
that can control nature.

1808
01:39:19,954 --> 01:39:21,520
We can't control nature.

1809
01:39:21,607 --> 01:39:23,305
We're part of nature.

1810
01:40:35,768 --> 01:40:39,381
[somber, mysterious music]