- ♪ Get up, get up, get up, get up ♪
♪ We about to get it started ♪
[cheers and applause]
♪ Let's go ♪
- Hey, "MAFS" family.
Welcome to the "Married at First Sight Afterparty."
I'm your host, Keshia Knight Pulliam.
We just finished watching tonight's amazing episode,
and I am so excited to kick things off
with Jasmine, Kirsten, and returning special guest,
my husband, Brad James.
Hey, welcome to the "Afterparty," guys.
both: Hi. - How y'all feel?
We talk about stripper poles.
- Maybe. - Yes, you did.
Stop. Just stop it.
Airris may not have had attraction before,
but that--after this episode, it's going down.
- Oh, goodness. Whoa.
- Listen, we'll get to it. We'll get to it.
So, Brad, you've really been along on this whole journey.
So how are you feeling about this season?
- I mean, I'm good.
I'm always down for a good party, you know.
Seeing guys do it and go through your adventures,
I am glad to be back and see you guys
still here and kicking it and thriving.
- So how does it feel to have him back?
- And keep in mind, I'm sitting right here.
[laughter]
- I mean, it's great to have him back,
especially since you guys are married,
and we had so much great insight
when he was on the first show. - Yeah.
- So looking forward to hearing some more good insight.
- Full-circle moment.
- I love having him here.
- No, we're gonna have some fun, that's for sure.
- We're gonna have fun, for sure.
- Absolutely.
As many of you know, Brad and I are expecting a baby,
who will be arriving any day now.
So I'm very sad to say that this will be
my last "Afterparty" of the season.
But after this baby comes, I'm back, just so y'all know.
And in the meantime, we have
a very special guest who will be hosting
the remainder of the season.
So even though I will not be here physically...
- Be here in spirit.
- Please know that I will be here in spirit.
- That's right.
- Since this will be my last "Afterparty"
just for a little bit
and because the process is nearing an end,
we're calling tonight's drink the So Long Sipper.
[laughter]
This drink contains vodka,
elderflower liqueur,
fresh grapefruit juice,
topped with sparkling water
and the mint sprig.
They just gave me the mint sprig
and sparkling water.
So let's cheers... - Cheers.
- To my final "Afterparty" of the season.
- Yes. Clink, clink, clink, clink.
- Cheers. We're gonna miss you.
- I'm gonna miss watching with you.
Believe me, I'm gonna be watching these episodes.
Mmm.
Well, there's certainly a lot to cover
from tonight's episode.
So in this special hour-long "Afterparty,"
Brad and I will be sitting down with Jasmine and Kirsten first.
And later, Gina and Airris will be joining us.
Y'all ready? - Let's do it.
- OK. Well, let's dive in.
Jasmine, after the couples retreat,
you and Airris certainly seemed to be in a good place
in your marriage.
Take a look at this clip.
♪ ♪
- Continue, like speaking up.
That's when you're the best version of yourself.
So I would have no issue, like, if there were times
where, like, you initiated, like,
a hand grab or a hug or something, so...
I mean, you already have, so--
and, like, it feels natural, so I feel like
the more and more we do it,
it'll just continue to feel natural.
- ♪ Let the magic begin ♪
- Ooh, look at your face.
You were holding back that smile.
- That's what I like to see.
- So clearly, Airris likes, Jasmine, when you speak up.
Is that something you're becoming
a little more comfortable with?
- Yes, I've always, you know,
kind of taken a back seat in my relationships,
so it's something that I've been working on.
So to see myself, like, finally getting around
to being able to do it and be better in it
in my relationship, you know, I'm happy,
and I'm happy that that's something
he wants from me as well.
- Anyone can see, watching the season,
that you guys have grown exponentially
when it comes to communication. - Absolutely.
And it's not where you begin. It's where you end up.
And I love seeing, like, these little, like, glimpses
of, like, hope. - Yeah.
- I'm like, oh.
I can't wait.
Well, Jasmine, the next question
is based on a viewer comment.
Monique from San Jose, California, says...
So, Jasmine, where are you guys
with the whole physical affection piece?
- I mean, as far as physical affection, it hasn't really,
you know, progressed much.
We might hold hands a little bit more.
- OK. - We're hugging
or, you know, giving a peck or something like that.
But I feel like we're just at a place where we're comfortable
and then we want to be around each other more,
and I want to initiate more things with him.
He wants to initiate more things with me.
So I'm slowly feeling like a wife,
and I feel like he's probably slowly feeling like a husband.
- Airris has really had the biggest transformation,
you know, from bachelor party to now.
Brad, I want to tag you in right now.
- Uh-oh.
- So what changes have you seen in Airris,
and are you at all surprised?
- I'm really impressed with his ability
to communicate how he's feeling, especially about you.
That's the part that gives me the most hope for you guys.
And you too,
you know, just because you seemed a little closed off
in the beginning, but now I'm seeing you
individually blossom and grow into even more of yourself.
- Yeah.
- So I think you guys are in a great space.
- So I have a question for you really quick, Kirsten.
Do you feel that Shaquille's physical connection to you,
is it still what it was in the beginning?
- For the most part, I do feel like Shaquille and I
are still having a little bit of an issue
as far as attraction. - OK.
- Because I definitely feel like his ego was, you know,
a little damaged a little bit, and that kind of
makes it difficult for us to grow together.
- OK. We'll get more into that later.
OK, Kirsten, Decision Day is around the corner,
and it definitely has you questioning some things
about your marriage.
Take a look at this clip.
♪ ♪
- When we're together, I don't feel like we're having enough
intentional conversations.
- When you say intentional, what do you mean?
- Like, where do we see this marriage going?
Like, what are our plans after this experience is over,
like, our living situations.
Like, intentional conversations like that, the real me, like.
I just don't--I don't feel like he's trying to win me over.
Like, I don't feel like he's that interested
in being in this marriage with me.
- How did you feel after this conversation
with your brother?
- I'm still feeling doubtful...
- OK. - With this marriage,
because, like, Shaquille is just not giving me what I need.
- What does Shaq need to do to make you feel like he's
trying to win you over?
- Like, he really needs to show me that.
Like, if he wants to be with me, he needs to tell me that.
It's certain things you can do
to sweep a woman off her feet, you know?
Like, hey, let's go to the movies today,
or calling me and say, hey, how are you doing?
You know, is your day going well?
Just the small things. - Yeah.
- Like, being intentional and being connected,
it's all about that connection. - OK.
- Can I tell you that marriage is the small things?
You know, a lot of times, we think it's the--
you know, it's the big things, the things we do
and the things--the goals we accomplish together.
But in all actuality, it's every single day
and all the little things that you do.
So I mean, you're saying great things.
- Yeah, 'cause let me tell you, it means the world
when my husband kisses me and says I'm beautiful
when I feel like I have cankles.
[laughter] - That's sweet.
But it's the small things. - Yeah.
So in the conversation with your brother,
you tell him that you and Shaq aren't having conversations
about Decision Day, right?
So are you just avoiding the subject?
- No. - Like, what is going on?
- No, Shaquille is avoiding the conversation.
Like, I'm asking him, like,
so what do you think about Decision Day?
What do you think your decision is gonna be?
I'm actually being vulnerable and trying to talk about it.
I really feel like what is making
him down about this marriage is that whole Memphis ordeal.
Like, I don't know if he got past me
not traveling to Memphis with him, but I didn't go
to Memphis with him-- - Oh, come on.
- I know. - You gotta let this stuff go.
- Shaq... - Tell me about it.
- Friend, we gotta talk. - Tell me about it.
And that's what we're going through
throughout our marriage the entire time.
It's those roadblocks.
And I'm like, well, if we continue
to have these roadblocks and not overcome them,
how can we continue to stay married?
- Letting things go is a sign of maturity.
- Yeah. - And contrary
to popular belief, maturity doesn't just come from age.
It's a part of growth... - Mm-hmm.
- You know, just making sure that you're
doing things that are going to affect
your relationships positively. - Yes.
- And one of those major, major factors
is letting go of things that don't serve you.
- Mm-hmm. - Amen.
- I feel like we need to be snapping or something
on that one right there.
- Definitely letting it go.
And I think that he is struggling
with that throughout this marriage is releasing things.
- OK.
Jasmine, so where are you in Airris?
You guys have come so far.
Are you talking about Decision Day?
- We have definitely had conversations about, you know,
what we're thinking our decision
will be on Decision Day.
But we also try to table it and say,
because we kind of had a slow start,
we're just trying to continue to see where it goes.
- OK, so it sounds like Shaquille is definitely
having a hard time, like, balancing his work
and his personal life.
If that doesn't change, is that a no for you on Decision Day?
- I'm still willing to work through this marriage
to see if it could possibly change
after filming and everything is done, you know?
I mean, I have a little hope.
I really feel like I understand why we're matched together.
- OK.
Do you have any advice, Jasmine,
before we take this quick break?
- Uh-uh.
I'm here to get it. Mm-mm.
[laughter] I don't got--
So, Jasmine, you and Airris are definitely taking baby
toward physical intimacy.
You, however, took a pole dancing class
to help keep up the momentum.
Let's watch that back.
♪ ♪
- Take it from the top.
- Here we go.
♪ ♪
- ♪ It's my time, and I'm taking my shot ♪
♪ I'ma fly, give it all that I got ♪
♪ If I'm gonna dream, then I'm gonna dream big ♪
♪ Dream big ♪
- Hoo! [applause]
- We can get one for the house.
- A pole for the house? - Yeah.
[laughter]
- I cannot. [laughs]
- He's talking about past Decision Day now.
- Yeah, he said getting one in the house.
- Talking about the pole installed in the house.
- Oh, my gosh.
- So is this your first pole dancing class?
- It was my first pole dancing class.
- OK. OK.
- It was fun. I don't remember--
- Did you know Airris was coming?
- No! - Ah.
- I did not know he was coming. - OK. OK.
- I don't know what it is.
Like, a pole is a magic pill
for building intimacy.
And I agree with him on bringing one in the house.
That's all I'm saying.
- Oh! - Keisha, you getting a pole?
- So we got kids now.
But bachelorette Keisha, before I was married,
I had a pole in my house. - Oh!
- I absolutely had a pole. - OK.
- Did you feel--'cause, like, we can see it.
Like, the chemistry, the attraction,
do you feel his eyes on you?
- Yeah, I felt his--yeah. - OK.
- I felt his eyes on me.
- His eyes, his smile, the money.
He looked like he was ready to take you home.
So I feel like this is his area right now.
He's very turned on by Jasmine,
and she's looking good,
you know, from top to bottom, on the floor,
on the pole, all the way around the pole.
So he's, like, having a good time,
and I'm loving to see him in this type of atmosphere,
like, admiring his wife.
- I feel that Airris is dropping you
lines and hints.
And I don't know if you're reading between these lines,
but he wants you to step outside the box...
- Mm-hmm. - Take control, and shock him.
Just man-to-man, that's--you know,
me seeing what he's doing, that's my take on it
is that he's looking for you to really show what you can do.
And he doesn't want to have to tell you.
And I think that was a great example of you doing it.
- I second that motion.
- OK. [laughs] - Yeah.
- OK. - But embrace it.
And this is the fun.
Marriage is supposed to be fun,
so when you're having fun, that's what you lean into.
- Absolutely. - I love it.
- So what did y'all do after the pole dancing class?
- Nothing. - OK, no more?
- Mm-mm.
- 'Cause I mean, in this episode,
we see y'all pull out the feathers
and the handcuffs. - Oh, God.
- That's what happened when y'all got home.
And y'all pulled out feathers talking about--
what's that word, babe?
- I'm not saying nothing.
[laughter]
- It's what Airris said. - It starts with a G.
What is it, a-- - The gooch?
- Oh, God.
- Yes. - Does it tickle?
- It's probably, like, certain areas that are
more sensitive than others.
Like, I'm sure a feather on the gooch
would probably feel sensational.
- All right.
[laughter]
- You know I had to explain to her what the gooch was.
- I'm like, what's a gooch?
Y'all know what a gooch is?
- He had to explain it to me.
- Well, apparently, the gooch,
it's like the taint... - Yup.
- But on a man.
- I guess I just never called it that.
- OK, we'll move on. We'll move on.
- Yes, please. Please move on. - Please.
- I think Airris wants to be smacked around a little bit.
I'm just being honest.
He's like, smack me.
Smack me harder.
[laughter]
- Oh, my God.
- Listen, y'all saw it on tonight's episode,
so we cannot glaze over that.
It happened. - Indeed.
- How was that smacking him?
- I mean, it was fine.
I wasn't--like, I--
I just couldn't wrap my brain around smacking him.
Like, he was like, smack me.
And in my head, I'm, like, thinking about all the things
he's done done in the past six weeks.
And so I'm just like, it would have came
from more of a bad place than a fun place, you know?
- I think he was ready to take it.
I'm just saying.
- Wherever it came from.
- Wherever it came from, he was ready to take it.
How about that?
Well, all right, so, Kirsten, you confronted
Shaquille about how you've been feeling
in your marriage lately.
Let's watch that back.
♪ ♪
- When you come home, I don't feel
like you're happy to be here.
Sometimes you don't talk, and I'm like,
I just don't get that feeling.
♪ ♪
- It's like, why we here?
Do we like each other?
Like, what's going on?
- We never had a conversation about it,
and I didn't know you felt like that.
- Yeah.
Well, I'm telling you now so we can work on it.
- I feel you.
How do you feel watching that back?
- I'm starting to feel a little stressed right now,
honestly. - Why?
- Because it's like, I'm sitting here
expressing to him how I'm feeling
and asking him how can we work on it,
and he's still not giving me any feedback,
which is showing me right now that he's
not even interested in being in this marriage.
So how can we move forward and stay married forever?
- Yeah. - He's very shifty.
- So is this a consistent-- like, so he consistently
kind of is hot and cold?
- Yes, he's in and out of the marriage all the time,
and that's because he has multiple things going on.
So if he's not doing well in his PhD program
or whatever he has going on in his outside life,
he's bringing it into the house.
And if you're not gonna talk about what's going on with you,
how can we be there for each other?
- Mm. OK. - I just know--
I feel like this whole time, I've been, like,
cursing, like, girl.
And then watching it back, I'm like, ooh.
Like, that was real dry.
- But I think this goes back to what
we talked about earlier, which is,
he's gotta learn to let go.
- Yeah. - You know?
- You can't be walking around with your panties in a bunch,
mad about everything that happened four weeks ago.
- Right. - Right.
'Cause you won't be able to move forward.
- And I had that same conversation with him.
- And I think you said it very bluntly too.
I love the way that you put it right here:
well, I'm saying it now.
- Mm-hmm. - You know?
- I was like, uh-oh.
The real Kirsten jumping out real quick on-screen right now.
- And I took all I can take.
And, like, I'm taking all I can take right now.
I'm trying my best to have positive energy.
I'm still at the house washing our clothes.
I'm still at the house cooking.
Like, I'm still trying to check on him.
I'm letting him know what I need.
- And you have a whole job and a whole career.
- Yeah.
- So Brad, do you have any advice?
- You are who you practice to be.
So all these things that you're doing,
I would say continue to do them,
because who you are is gonna be who you are.
Like, when I met my wife, she wasn't already my wife,
but she behaved and did certain things
that let me know, like, the caliber and quality of a woman
that she was, so don't--
- Is.
- So don't shy away from the things
that you're doing that you love about yourself.
- Absolutely.
All right, Kirsten, you and Shaq updated your mom
about your marriage, and she left you
with some motherly advice.
Let's watch that back.
♪ ♪
- I wish my brother was able to come today,
but he's working.
- Kirsten has planned a family dinner with her family and I.
And it's kind of really weird because the only person
that showed up was her mom.
But hey, we're here.
♪ ♪
- Words of wisdom to you all...
let the expectations down.
Yeah, let those down, and enjoy each other.
Relax.
Laugh.
Smile.
Breathe. You know?
That's what the love grows from.
- Ooh! - That was good.
- Mama didn't play no game.
- I really feel like she's giving us
great advice right now because Shaquille and I
are under so much pressure,
and we're like, where do we even turn?
Like, although the rest of my family
didn't show up that day, I appreciate her for showing up
and, you know, really speaking over our marriage.
- Yeah. - When I saw your mom
walk in looking that young,
I did not expect to hear that great advice--
- That wisdom. - Yeah, come out of her mouth.
That was spot-on. - It was.
- Gotta drop those expectations.
- It made me laugh, though. He was like, I found her.
- All right, see if she here.
[line rings]
- She's in a black car.
I have a headache, and I need to eat.
I don't want to be hangry.
♪ ♪
- I found her. - [laughs]
- Hey, Mama.
I'm glad you made it.
- It made me think back to your wedding.
I was like, your mama just always getting lost.
What's going on?
- Yeah, she gets lost in the South.
I don't know. I'm like, please, go find her.
Please. Help her out.
- How long was she lost for?
- A long time. - Really?
- It took her a long time to get there.
That's why I was already eating.
I'm like, I'm hungry,
and, like, Mom, come on.
- OK. But I love that.
So where was your dad?
- My dad, he he's not one to film at all.
- So is that challenging for you?
- I would say a lot of things
are challenging for me in this marriage,
because Shaquille's family is not here.
And I know how important it is for Shaquille
to be a part of my family.
And I'm doing all that I can to make that happen,
and it's like, sometimes I don't feel like Shaquille
believes that or knows that I am.
- He seems to be taking everything personally.
- Shaquille always takes everything so personal.
And I'm like, Shaquille, I'm trying because I understand
the importance of everything.
- You know, you guys had some really great moments,
like when you were body painting
and, you know, all of those moments
kind of in the beginning of everything.
Where is that Shaquille?
- I really don't know where he is.
I just feel like he's drifting away minute by minute.
Like, he's so dis-attached from this marriage,
and it's challenging.
- And I feel like you know that, like,
Shaquille is, like, a good guy.
- Yeah. - And it's like--
- How do we get him out of the pity party?
I'm like, I just want to shake him.
- Right? - Like, Shaquille, stop it.
- Right? - Stop it.
- Yeah.
- Well, the viewers definitely had
some comments about you and Shaq.
Alyssa from Long Beach, California, says...
So what do you think about that?
- Alyssa, I definitely appreciate you
for seeing my effort, because I know
that's what you have to do when you're in the marriage.
You have to continue to put forth the effort in that,
like, no matter how down Shaquille gets,
no matter if things do or don't work out,
I'm always going to continue to put in the effort
and work everything out.
But I can only do so much as a person.
He has to do the same thing too.
- So what do you think, babe, of Shaquille so far?
If he was here, what advice would you give him?
- You guys are looking out for each other,
and I would remind him, like,
she has your best interests at heart.
- Absolutely. - She wants the best for you.
She wants you to succeed in everything
that you're doing, because his success means
the success of both of you.
So I would remind him of that and tell him
to let go of the stuff that doesn't serve him.
- So, Jasmine, as Kirsten's friend,
you know, how do you see her
and Shaquille's marriage changing?
Like, are you sensing any of this from the outside or...
- I've always kind of told her that I always feel like
they're on opposite-- like, she'll feel
one way about how things are going,
and he'll feel one way.
And we're like, are y'all in the same marriage?
Like, what's happening?
But then, you know, they got to a good space,
and they were on the same page.
And I feel like she has grown so much, like, in the marriage.
And now I feel like he's at a point to kind of--
where he's kind of checking out.
- Got it.
So this is our last part of the segment
before we swap out guests.
Do you have any final words or pieces of advice
for Kirsten or Jasmine, my love?
- I'm really impressed with the effort
that you guys are putting in, especially over time.
And realize that, you know, sometimes people
have to go through their own journeys,
and sometimes we put up walls to protect something,
you know, in our lives.
And you can only do what you can do.
Control what you can control, but everything else,
enjoy it.
Learn from it.
One of the greatest advancements that I'm seeing
out of Airris and Jasmine is that they're actively
learning and working the love.
So it's gonna take that effort,
and I see you doing the same thing,
and it's really impressive.
- Aw.
OK, ladies, well, thank you so much for your insight
on tonight's episode and for joining me this season.
I truly wish you the best of luck in your marriages.
I really do.
And listen, we gonna be in a hospital room
rooting for you.
Let me tell you. - Please do.
I'm sitting down with Gina, Airris,
and special guest, my husband, Brad James.
Welcome to the show, guys.
How are you doing tonight?
- Hey, we're finally here. - You both look so nice.
- As do you. - Thank you very much.
- Yeah, looking very fly. - [laughs]
So Jasmine and Kirsten just gave us their insight
on tonight's episode, and I cannot wait
to get your viewpoints.
Jasmine pulled the pole out on you this time.
- Oh, yeah the pole, that was nice.
[laughter] - Absolutely.
So, Airris, you and Brad met
on the first "Afterparty" of the season.
So how do you feel--
you have some backup again, I guess.
- I feel great having some reinforcement.
Last time Brad was here, he had my back.
- Gina, this is your first time...
- Yeah. - Hanging out with Brad.
- It is.
I'm normally sitting with the gals,
so it's good to have some, like, male energy in here
and get some male insight tonight.
- OK.
So how are you feeling tonight?
- I feel good. - You good?
- I mean, you know, like, at this point of the season,
it's really exciting. - OK.
- You know, there's real feelings and emotions involved.
And, you know, you just kind of--
you kind of see the growth in everyone.
- Mm, absolutely.
So cheers to everyone.
- And to the new baby, yeah. - And to the new baby.
- It's baby season.
- Yeah. - Yeah.
- OK, well, on tonight's episode,
Clint hung out with someone we haven't seen in a while.
Take a look at this.
♪ ♪
- No moves made yet, or--
- No moves. - So not vice versa either?
She hasn't tried to put a move on you?
- No. Like, I grazed her butt once.
I was like, oh, my God, I'm so sorry.
She's like, you don't have to be apologetic.
- Right, right.
I am surprised that Clint and Gina are not--
they're not attracted to each other.
I think Clint's a good-looking dude,
and I think Gina's a good-looking girl.
Me and Gina are both entrepreneurs, hard workers,
goal-oriented.
Pretty sure she found me attractive,
and I clearly think she's attractive.
So yeah, I wish maybe me and Gina
would have been matched over me and Dom.
- Let's talk about this.
- Well, that's new information.
- Let's talk about this.
- I'm gonna see myself out. No, I'm just kidding.
[laughter]
- Gina, I know that you are a married woman.
But hypothetically, is Mackinley
someone you'd ever date?
- Yeah, he is, yeah.
- You would? - From what I knew about him.
I think everyone on cast, though, is great.
- OK, well, Gina,
this conversation got viewers talking,
and Chantel from Greenville, South Carolina, says...
Gina, what are your thoughts on that?
- Yeah, if he's feeling the need to apologize,
I don't know if maybe I need to let my guard down a little more
or if he's just, like, in his head,
which is interesting 'cause I don't feel like Clint's,
like, really that attracted to me either.
So it's like, I don't know.
- But both of you, you guys are energetic,
attractive, outgoing.
It's like, it's so surprising that somebody, like,
as cool as Clint and as cool as you are,
like, you guys just, like,
get a little nervous around each other,
awkward or something.
- And I'm confused by it 'cause when you visually--
like, when you see each other,
you know, it seems like it should work.
- I mean, we talk about that.
We're like, we are perfect on paper
and emotionally as far as, like,
we're both very logical thinkers.
And so for us, it's really just the chemistry.
- So, Airris, when it comes to your relationship,
how would you rank it in terms of--
is it one of the strongest or...
- It's kind of in the middle.
I know it's one of her frustrations.
Like, you know, she wants to be intimate currently.
But for me, it's having to, like,
talk and get to know each other,
whereas a lot of times in the past, like,
intimacy happened, like, way too soon,
and the relationship was, like, solely based around that.
So this is definitely a new territory.
- OK.
All right, Airris, you and Jasmine
met up with a medium on tonight's episode.
Let's see how that went.
♪ ♪
- Airris, first energy I feel is
a strong presence of female, very, very motherly.
She loves you, and she's proud of you.
And she says she wants you to settle down,
and it's time to have children.
She wants to see you settled.
She's worried about you,
and she likes Jasmine very much.
And I hear, she's the first girl that I like.
- [chuckles]
- Your ancestors are coming from the grave
to give their stamp of approval.
- Man. - Dang.
- She done reached out to Big Mama.
- Right. [laughter]
So how was that experience for you?
- It actually was cool, like, and this was me
stepping out of my comfort zone.
If you would have asked me, like, probably ten years ago,
I would have called it, like, some type of witchcraft.
I wouldn't have wanted to have
nothing to do with it. - OK.
- But--and I was still kind of hesitant.
Like, you could even see my facial expression.
I was like, uh. - But it sounded like she was--
- Yeah, no, she was hitting-- - Hitting--
- She was, like, spot-on about me.
She was spot-on about Jasmine.
I mean, even stuff y'all, like, didn't see,
you know, she was-- - Didn't see.
Like, what didn't we see
that you can-- that you want to share?
- Jasmine had lost someone, like, very close to her,
and she hadn't even really shared it with a lot of people.
- Mm. - And the medium
brought it up and was telling her
that this person was, like, speaking to her.
So it was kind of like, whoa. - Wow.
- Like, you could feel, like, the energy in the room.
I was like, wow, like, this is different.
- Nice. - Yeah.
- So, Gina, how do you feel about mediums and clairvoyants?
- I feel like I agree with Airris a bit.
I used to be a little bit weird about it
just 'cause I've always been a person of faith.
And so I'm like, OK, I'm a Christian.
Like, is this weird to tap into that?
But I definitely feel like God gives people intuitive gifts
and speaks through people.
So I think that's really cool
that you guys have that experience.
- OK, what would you have asked if you were there?
- Like, can you please give me my decision?
- [laughs] - Mm-hmm.
I don't think it works that way.
- What is my decision for Decision Day?
- So, babe, what do you think about their experience?
- In any relationship that you're
pursuing a future with, especially with a marriage,
that you guys should experience things.
Whether you agree with it or not,
it's kind of like, that you're going through it together
that gives, like, more feedback than anything,
not even necessarily what the medium may or may not say.
It's like, what did you guys gather from going there?
And I think it just looked like fun.
You know, I think everything that you maybe
got from that experience was just icing on the cake,
so I think it's cool. - Yeah.
OK, Gina, you and Clint are still in the friend zone.
And with Decision Day approaching,
all hands are on deck to get you out of it.
Take a look at this clip.
♪ ♪
- The physical attraction wasn't there in the beginning,
and I feel like
we talked about, like, some personality stuff, too,
that I just feel like
has been a little bit of a mismatch.
- For instance?
- I think that Clint's personality is, like,
outrageous and wild and fun
and he's the life of the party
and everyone is, like, consistently laughing,
and he brings this energy that's, like,
this sense of a bizarre energy
that I've grown to love about him.
At first, I was like, hmm,
like, it's the crass sense of humor, like,
almost, like, a feeling of secondhand embarrassment.
- How did this just come up?
Very interesting.
- So, Gina, had you never expressed this to Clint?
- I think it was a culmination of me really trying
to process, well, like, what is it in my head
that's actually not working?
And we are at this point for probably
the last week of really me taking, I know personally,
the introspective work to, like, figure it out.
Like, what is it that's really bothering me?
And once I did, I think I just--it all came out.
- Just--yeah. It was so-- - Processed.
- Clint's face was like-- he was a deer in headlights.
He was a little stunned.
- I mean, I don't know how Clint doesn't know
that he is that way.
Like, he's the life of the party.
He's the funny guy.
He's the crazy, bizarre one.
And he talks about that.
Like, he'll tell you, I live on Front Street,
and I do this and that.
And so yeah, it's starting to feel like that's cool
as, like, a fun friend, but it wasn't really
feeling like a marriage.
- Got it. Got it. - Hmm.
I think that's very important and very telling.
Because in the same conversation,
I think you guys are hearing--
hearing different things. - Mm-hmm.
- And in this conversation, like, you're saying,
I don't know how he doesn't know he's these things.
He knows he's these things,
but he loves that about himself.
He's not changing.
- It's who he is. - Yeah.
- So it's--you're finding fault with something that is so...
- Clint. - Just innately who he is.
So because it's innately who he is,
he sees no issue with it.
- And coming from you-- - And it's offensive to him.
Yeah. - And coming from you,
it hurts more. - Yeah.
- And I always said, I mean, going into this process,
I was like, I want someone that can make me laugh
and is the life of the party and all of that.
- Bam.
- And I'm learning, like, OK,
maybe I do need someone a little more reserved.
Like, I always thought I was the loud one.
- OK.
Well, you have met your match, apparently.
Well, Gina, the viewers had a lot to say
about this conversation.
Juliana, from Boston, Massachusetts, says...
- I mean, I think we have to realize that this process
is legitimately eight weeks long.
And so we haven't been--it's not like we've been together
for three years and all of a sudden, I'm like,
this is what I don't like about your personality
or this isn't what, you know, isn't aligning with mine.
I think I'm just processing through
what it really is that's there. - OK.
- And I'm learning about the things that aren't there,
for me personally. - Understood.
So, Airris, what do you think about the scene
on tonight's episode?
- I think if you'd asked all the cast
and probably most people who know Clint,
they're gonna say-- all the things that she says
she doesn't like, they're all gonna say, like,
that's why I love Clint.
Like, Clint is outgoing.
He's the life of the party. He always turns up.
He'll dance even though he can't dance.
So, like, that's who he is.
And in his mind, he's heard all of us say--
he's probably been hearing that his whole life--
like, Clint, you're great because of A, B, and C.
And then hearing Gina say, I don't like A, B, and C,
like you said, coming from her, his wife, like,
it hits different, you know.
- Yeah, so have you guys ever--
have you ever witnessed Gina, like,
cringing in the background, like,
embarrassed about what's happening?
- Not really, because Clint--
like, when he's in his zone, like, he...
- You sees nothing but--
- I don't even know what Gina's noticed,
but she's probably like, oh, my God.
And the rest of us are like, go, Clint.
Go, Clint. - Go, Clint.
- She's like, no, Clint. No.
[laughter] - Sit down, Clint.
- Bring it back, Clint.
Stop it, Clint.
- So what is your take on this conversation, babe?
- I mean, in all honesty, I don't think
there's an easy fix for it.
But what I would love is if--
and what you always love in any relationship--
if someone can embrace who the other person is.
Realize that you're not gonna be able to change
a grown, a very grown...
- Very grown.
- Person, you know, when it comes
to who they are and how they are in a relationship.
And, you know, I guess Decision Day
is gonna be, for you, all about,
can I love him where he's at?
- Pow, pow. - Because Clint is Clint.
- Absolutely.
So what was the conversation like
after Pastor Cal and Dr. Pepper left?
- We definitely agreed with what they had to say,
and we were like, maybe we just need, like, a set of things.
Obviously, the experts are giving us this advice,
so we should take it and run with it
and try to figure out if this is gonna help us
to connect a little more. - Right.
We've been having some pretty serious conversations tonight,
so we're gonna lighten things up a little bit
and take a look at Jasmine and Airris'
intimacy assignment.
Take a look at this.
♪ ♪
- Would you ever be, like, a dominatrix?
- I don't think I'm opposed to it.
- Like, if I was just like, slap me.
- I don't think you want to be slapped.
- I mean, I don't know.
I might get slapped and I might be like, ooh.
Let's just try it real quick, on the count of three.
- Oh, my goodness. - Come on.
- OK, count me down.
- OK. One, two--
Harder. Come on.
♪ ♪
Is that all you got? Damn.
Trying to turn me on.
- I don't know if you want... - Slap me harder.
- A hard slap. - Slap me harder.
Come on. One, two, three.
♪ ♪
OK, we got something. We got something.
- Was that better? - We working with something.
[laughter]
- Slap me. Come on.
[laughter]
- Listen, don't ask me,
'cause we gonna go. - Oh, we gonna go.
- Hiyah!
[laughter]
- She said, hiyah.
- So please, we have so much to talk about.
[laughter]
Do you like the submissive-dominatrix dynamics?
- I've never experienced it. - OK.
- You know, I was watching the show "Billions,"
and there's a character on there.
He's kind of into that type of stuff.
I was like, hmm, let me ask Jasmine
if she ever done that or would she be down to try it.
I'm just--at this point, I'm searching, right?
We're trying to spark something, so...
- So hit me. - That's effort.
- Yeah, so hit me, you know? - That's effort.
- So hit me.
- So what was that experience like?
Is that something you'd like to incorporate in the bedroom?
- Yeah, I'm def-- I would get slapped again.
I'm definitely--it sparked a little bit of interest, yeah.
- OK, OK. So question.
Is there any physical attraction
after the pole dancing class, and then--
- Well, can we talk about that? Can we talk about that?
- Yeah. - 'Cause we haven't talked
with you about the pole dancing.
- Yeah. - No, she looked very sexy
and very comfortable.
And the thing I liked the most about it
was, like, her confidence.
- So, Brad, what do you think about these intimacy exercises?
- Intimacy exercises are everything,
you know, especially if it's something
you've never done before,
because that one experience
gets tied to that one person,
and that's powerful. - Yeah.
So, Dr. Pepper and Pastor Cal,
y'all can send a box to our house.
You have the address.
We will-- [laughter]
- I'm not getting handcuffed behind the back, though.
[laughter]
- So, Gina, so you and Clint,
y'all got the same basket, correct?
- We did get the-- did not look like this.
- OK, I was about ask, did you...
- We did-- - Do any slapping?
Did you find the gooch? I mean, I'm just asking.
- This whole time, I was thinking,
Clint would 100% want me to slap him.
- OK. [laughter]
- There would be nothing off the table for Clint.
- OK. - You should do it.
- Should I go slap him? - Just go slap Clint.
- All of the frustration, hiyah!
You know, he may like it.
You may like it too. You never know.
- Yeah, you never know. [laughter]
- So, Brad, do you have any final pieces of advice
for Gina and Airris before Decision Day?
- I'll say for Airris, Jasmine is really smitten with you.
I don't know if she'll admit that,
but when you do certain things, you could just see her,
you know, kind of-- - She blushes.
And when you're brown-skinned, it's hard to blush.
She does it.
- Yeah, so it's like, you're doing something right
because there's something there now that I didn't see before.
I would say the sooner you can make
that decision, the better,
because subconsciously, we make different decisions
once we've, you know, made--
- We show up differently.
- Yeah, we show up differently when we've made that--
when we've made that final decision.
And for you, you know, a lot of times,
people end up in serious relationships
and they're not friends.
You know, that's a hard, big hurdle to cross sometimes.
And you guys have crossed that one,
so it's like, there is something there,
and you may need to scratch that itch just to make sure,
you know, there's not something worthwhile right there.
Because you got a friend,
and you got somebody who, like, you know who he is,
and you guys got matched up for a reason.
- Yeah. - All right.
Well, that covers tonight's amazing episode.
But before we go, here's a preview
of what happens next week on a brand-new episode
of "Married at First Sight."
♪ ♪
- ♪ Let's come together ♪
- Next time on "Married at First Sight"...
- He was, like, saying, I think things could change
after Decision Day.
Like, it'll get better. We can grow our intimacy.
- Like, if we can't make that decision yet,
is it because we don't
feel like we're ready to live together?
♪ ♪
- So can you see yourself maybe single again?
♪ ♪
- I feel like things will get better,
but, you know, it's up to you to believe me.
- I'm still unsure, yes.
♪ ♪
- Hearing things. [laughter]
What is going on?
- I slid in Gina's DMs.
- I was caught completely off guard,
just blindsided.
- Whoo-hoo.
Listen, I may be at home watching this,
but I'm going to enjoy next week's episode.
Gina, Airris, and Brad, thank you so much
for joining me at the "Afterparty" this season.
Well, I'm signing off for the remainder of the season,
but don't worry, because I'm leaving the "Afterparty"
in very good hands with Jemele Hill,
who will be guest hosting while I am away having a baby.
Tune in to the "Afterparty" three weeks from now
for an in-depth look at what the cast
has been up to after Decision Day.
I'm Keshia Knight Pulliam, and to everyone at home,
this has been the "Married At First Sight Afterparty."
We'll see you next time.
- ♪ Pull up, pull up, pull up, pull up ♪
♪ 'Cause life should be a party ♪