1 00:00:02,333 --> 00:00:03,292 - ♪ Get up, get up, get up, get up ♪ 2 00:00:03,375 --> 00:00:05,458 ♪ We about to get it started ♪ 3 00:00:05,542 --> 00:00:07,583 [cheers and applause] 4 00:00:07,708 --> 00:00:08,667 ♪ Let's go ♪ 5 00:00:08,833 --> 00:00:10,292 - Hey, "MAFS" family. 6 00:00:10,375 --> 00:00:12,250 Welcome to the "Married at First Sight Afterparty." 7 00:00:12,375 --> 00:00:14,250 I'm your host, Keshia Knight Pulliam. 8 00:00:14,375 --> 00:00:18,000 We just finished watching tonight's amazing episode, 9 00:00:18,167 --> 00:00:20,167 and I am so excited to kick things off 10 00:00:20,250 --> 00:00:23,833 with Jasmine, Kirsten, and returning special guest, 11 00:00:23,917 --> 00:00:26,000 my husband, Brad James. 12 00:00:26,167 --> 00:00:27,250 Hey, welcome to the "Afterparty," guys. 13 00:00:27,375 --> 00:00:28,875 both: Hi. - How y'all feel? 14 00:00:29,042 --> 00:00:31,083 We talk about stripper poles. 15 00:00:31,208 --> 00:00:33,000 - Maybe. - Yes, you did. 16 00:00:33,083 --> 00:00:35,083 Stop. Just stop it. 17 00:00:35,208 --> 00:00:37,208 Airris may not have had attraction before, 18 00:00:37,333 --> 00:00:40,167 but that--after this episode, it's going down. 19 00:00:40,292 --> 00:00:42,250 - Oh, goodness. Whoa. 20 00:00:42,375 --> 00:00:44,292 - Listen, we'll get to it. We'll get to it. 21 00:00:44,417 --> 00:00:48,125 So, Brad, you've really been along on this whole journey. 22 00:00:48,208 --> 00:00:49,500 So how are you feeling about this season? 23 00:00:49,667 --> 00:00:50,958 - I mean, I'm good. 24 00:00:51,083 --> 00:00:52,875 I'm always down for a good party, you know. 25 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,208 Seeing guys do it and go through your adventures, 26 00:00:55,333 --> 00:00:56,750 I am glad to be back and see you guys 27 00:00:56,875 --> 00:00:59,333 still here and kicking it and thriving. 28 00:00:59,458 --> 00:01:02,083 - So how does it feel to have him back? 29 00:01:02,208 --> 00:01:03,417 - And keep in mind, I'm sitting right here. 30 00:01:03,542 --> 00:01:04,792 [laughter] 31 00:01:04,917 --> 00:01:05,833 - I mean, it's great to have him back, 32 00:01:05,958 --> 00:01:07,000 especially since you guys are married, 33 00:01:07,083 --> 00:01:08,500 and we had so much great insight 34 00:01:08,625 --> 00:01:10,375 when he was on the first show. - Yeah. 35 00:01:10,500 --> 00:01:12,000 - So looking forward to hearing some more good insight. 36 00:01:12,167 --> 00:01:13,542 - Full-circle moment. 37 00:01:13,667 --> 00:01:15,000 - I love having him here. 38 00:01:15,125 --> 00:01:15,833 - No, we're gonna have some fun, that's for sure. 39 00:01:15,958 --> 00:01:16,708 - We're gonna have fun, for sure. 40 00:01:16,875 --> 00:01:18,417 - Absolutely. 41 00:01:18,542 --> 00:01:20,958 As many of you know, Brad and I are expecting a baby, 42 00:01:21,083 --> 00:01:23,042 who will be arriving any day now. 43 00:01:23,208 --> 00:01:25,833 So I'm very sad to say that this will be 44 00:01:25,958 --> 00:01:29,167 my last "Afterparty" of the season. 45 00:01:29,333 --> 00:01:32,333 But after this baby comes, I'm back, just so y'all know. 46 00:01:32,458 --> 00:01:34,417 And in the meantime, we have 47 00:01:34,542 --> 00:01:36,792 a very special guest who will be hosting 48 00:01:36,917 --> 00:01:38,167 the remainder of the season. 49 00:01:38,250 --> 00:01:40,708 So even though I will not be here physically... 50 00:01:40,875 --> 00:01:42,167 - Be here in spirit. 51 00:01:42,292 --> 00:01:43,083 - Please know that I will be here in spirit. 52 00:01:43,208 --> 00:01:44,542 - That's right. 53 00:01:44,667 --> 00:01:46,750 - Since this will be my last "Afterparty" 54 00:01:46,875 --> 00:01:48,083 just for a little bit 55 00:01:48,208 --> 00:01:50,583 and because the process is nearing an end, 56 00:01:50,708 --> 00:01:54,333 we're calling tonight's drink the So Long Sipper. 57 00:01:54,458 --> 00:01:55,625 [laughter] 58 00:01:55,708 --> 00:01:57,167 This drink contains vodka, 59 00:01:57,333 --> 00:01:58,958 elderflower liqueur, 60 00:01:59,042 --> 00:02:00,333 fresh grapefruit juice, 61 00:02:00,458 --> 00:02:02,167 topped with sparkling water 62 00:02:02,292 --> 00:02:03,292 and the mint sprig. 63 00:02:03,375 --> 00:02:04,917 They just gave me the mint sprig 64 00:02:05,042 --> 00:02:06,333 and sparkling water. 65 00:02:06,458 --> 00:02:09,042 So let's cheers... - Cheers. 66 00:02:09,167 --> 00:02:11,500 - To my final "Afterparty" of the season. 67 00:02:11,583 --> 00:02:13,083 - Yes. Clink, clink, clink, clink. 68 00:02:13,208 --> 00:02:14,167 - Cheers. We're gonna miss you. 69 00:02:14,292 --> 00:02:15,458 - I'm gonna miss watching with you. 70 00:02:15,542 --> 00:02:18,250 Believe me, I'm gonna be watching these episodes. 71 00:02:18,375 --> 00:02:19,375 Mmm. 72 00:02:19,542 --> 00:02:20,917 Well, there's certainly a lot to cover 73 00:02:21,042 --> 00:02:22,292 from tonight's episode. 74 00:02:22,417 --> 00:02:25,000 So in this special hour-long "Afterparty," 75 00:02:25,167 --> 00:02:28,292 Brad and I will be sitting down with Jasmine and Kirsten first. 76 00:02:28,417 --> 00:02:31,833 And later, Gina and Airris will be joining us. 77 00:02:31,958 --> 00:02:33,667 Y'all ready? - Let's do it. 78 00:02:33,750 --> 00:02:36,000 - OK. Well, let's dive in. 79 00:02:36,167 --> 00:02:37,667 Jasmine, after the couples retreat, 80 00:02:37,750 --> 00:02:40,500 you and Airris certainly seemed to be in a good place 81 00:02:40,583 --> 00:02:41,875 in your marriage. 82 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:43,667 Take a look at this clip. 83 00:02:43,792 --> 00:02:45,250 ♪ ♪ 84 00:02:45,375 --> 00:02:47,708 - Continue, like speaking up. 85 00:02:47,875 --> 00:02:50,750 That's when you're the best version of yourself. 86 00:02:50,875 --> 00:02:54,250 So I would have no issue, like, if there were times 87 00:02:54,375 --> 00:02:56,333 where, like, you initiated, like, 88 00:02:56,500 --> 00:02:59,000 a hand grab or a hug or something, so... 89 00:02:59,167 --> 00:03:01,500 I mean, you already have, so-- 90 00:03:01,625 --> 00:03:02,833 and, like, it feels natural, so I feel like 91 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:04,458 the more and more we do it, 92 00:03:04,583 --> 00:03:06,875 it'll just continue to feel natural. 93 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,125 - ♪ Let the magic begin ♪ 94 00:03:10,208 --> 00:03:12,333 - Ooh, look at your face. 95 00:03:12,458 --> 00:03:16,000 You were holding back that smile. 96 00:03:16,083 --> 00:03:17,958 - That's what I like to see. 97 00:03:18,083 --> 00:03:22,042 - So clearly, Airris likes, Jasmine, when you speak up. 98 00:03:22,208 --> 00:03:23,208 Is that something you're becoming 99 00:03:23,333 --> 00:03:24,167 a little more comfortable with? 100 00:03:24,250 --> 00:03:26,125 - Yes, I've always, you know, 101 00:03:26,250 --> 00:03:28,250 kind of taken a back seat in my relationships, 102 00:03:28,375 --> 00:03:30,333 so it's something that I've been working on. 103 00:03:30,458 --> 00:03:34,667 So to see myself, like, finally getting around 104 00:03:34,792 --> 00:03:36,667 to being able to do it and be better in it 105 00:03:36,750 --> 00:03:38,333 in my relationship, you know, I'm happy, 106 00:03:38,458 --> 00:03:40,042 and I'm happy that that's something 107 00:03:40,208 --> 00:03:41,875 he wants from me as well. 108 00:03:42,042 --> 00:03:44,250 - Anyone can see, watching the season, 109 00:03:44,375 --> 00:03:45,667 that you guys have grown exponentially 110 00:03:45,833 --> 00:03:47,500 when it comes to communication. - Absolutely. 111 00:03:47,583 --> 00:03:49,375 And it's not where you begin. It's where you end up. 112 00:03:49,500 --> 00:03:52,458 And I love seeing, like, these little, like, glimpses 113 00:03:52,542 --> 00:03:54,833 of, like, hope. - Yeah. 114 00:03:54,917 --> 00:03:56,542 - I'm like, oh. 115 00:03:56,667 --> 00:03:58,042 I can't wait. 116 00:03:58,167 --> 00:03:59,792 Well, Jasmine, the next question 117 00:03:59,917 --> 00:04:01,292 is based on a viewer comment. 118 00:04:01,417 --> 00:04:03,667 Monique from San Jose, California, says... 119 00:04:12,208 --> 00:04:14,500 So, Jasmine, where are you guys 120 00:04:14,667 --> 00:04:16,875 with the whole physical affection piece? 121 00:04:17,042 --> 00:04:19,500 - I mean, as far as physical affection, it hasn't really, 122 00:04:19,625 --> 00:04:21,375 you know, progressed much. 123 00:04:21,542 --> 00:04:22,833 We might hold hands a little bit more. 124 00:04:22,958 --> 00:04:24,458 - OK. - We're hugging 125 00:04:24,583 --> 00:04:26,833 or, you know, giving a peck or something like that. 126 00:04:26,917 --> 00:04:30,833 But I feel like we're just at a place where we're comfortable 127 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,375 and then we want to be around each other more, 128 00:04:33,500 --> 00:04:35,542 and I want to initiate more things with him. 129 00:04:35,667 --> 00:04:37,458 He wants to initiate more things with me. 130 00:04:37,542 --> 00:04:39,000 So I'm slowly feeling like a wife, 131 00:04:39,083 --> 00:04:41,250 and I feel like he's probably slowly feeling like a husband. 132 00:04:41,375 --> 00:04:44,250 - Airris has really had the biggest transformation, 133 00:04:44,375 --> 00:04:47,542 you know, from bachelor party to now. 134 00:04:47,667 --> 00:04:49,458 Brad, I want to tag you in right now. 135 00:04:49,542 --> 00:04:50,667 - Uh-oh. 136 00:04:50,833 --> 00:04:52,958 - So what changes have you seen in Airris, 137 00:04:53,083 --> 00:04:54,333 and are you at all surprised? 138 00:04:54,458 --> 00:04:57,333 - I'm really impressed with his ability 139 00:04:57,500 --> 00:05:00,917 to communicate how he's feeling, especially about you. 140 00:05:01,042 --> 00:05:03,667 That's the part that gives me the most hope for you guys. 141 00:05:03,792 --> 00:05:05,417 And you too, 142 00:05:05,542 --> 00:05:07,583 you know, just because you seemed a little closed off 143 00:05:07,708 --> 00:05:10,750 in the beginning, but now I'm seeing you 144 00:05:10,875 --> 00:05:15,000 individually blossom and grow into even more of yourself. 145 00:05:15,083 --> 00:05:16,500 - Yeah. 146 00:05:16,625 --> 00:05:17,833 - So I think you guys are in a great space. 147 00:05:17,917 --> 00:05:19,750 - So I have a question for you really quick, Kirsten. 148 00:05:19,875 --> 00:05:22,625 Do you feel that Shaquille's physical connection to you, 149 00:05:22,750 --> 00:05:24,500 is it still what it was in the beginning? 150 00:05:24,583 --> 00:05:28,042 - For the most part, I do feel like Shaquille and I 151 00:05:28,167 --> 00:05:31,167 are still having a little bit of an issue 152 00:05:31,292 --> 00:05:32,667 as far as attraction. - OK. 153 00:05:32,750 --> 00:05:37,250 - Because I definitely feel like his ego was, you know, 154 00:05:37,375 --> 00:05:39,375 a little damaged a little bit, and that kind of 155 00:05:39,542 --> 00:05:41,583 makes it difficult for us to grow together. 156 00:05:41,708 --> 00:05:44,500 - OK. We'll get more into that later. 157 00:05:44,625 --> 00:05:47,375 OK, Kirsten, Decision Day is around the corner, 158 00:05:47,542 --> 00:05:49,333 and it definitely has you questioning some things 159 00:05:49,500 --> 00:05:50,542 about your marriage. 160 00:05:50,667 --> 00:05:52,042 Take a look at this clip. 161 00:05:52,167 --> 00:05:53,958 ♪ ♪ 162 00:05:54,042 --> 00:05:57,125 - When we're together, I don't feel like we're having enough 163 00:05:57,208 --> 00:05:58,375 intentional conversations. 164 00:05:58,500 --> 00:06:00,875 - When you say intentional, what do you mean? 165 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,833 - Like, where do we see this marriage going? 166 00:06:02,958 --> 00:06:06,333 Like, what are our plans after this experience is over, 167 00:06:06,458 --> 00:06:07,917 like, our living situations. 168 00:06:08,042 --> 00:06:11,625 Like, intentional conversations like that, the real me, like. 169 00:06:11,708 --> 00:06:14,958 I just don't--I don't feel like he's trying to win me over. 170 00:06:15,083 --> 00:06:17,083 Like, I don't feel like he's that interested 171 00:06:17,208 --> 00:06:19,833 in being in this marriage with me. 172 00:06:19,958 --> 00:06:21,958 - How did you feel after this conversation 173 00:06:22,042 --> 00:06:23,250 with your brother? 174 00:06:23,375 --> 00:06:25,958 - I'm still feeling doubtful... 175 00:06:26,042 --> 00:06:27,792 - OK. - With this marriage, 176 00:06:27,875 --> 00:06:32,125 because, like, Shaquille is just not giving me what I need. 177 00:06:32,250 --> 00:06:35,458 - What does Shaq need to do to make you feel like he's 178 00:06:35,542 --> 00:06:38,167 trying to win you over? 179 00:06:38,292 --> 00:06:39,583 - Like, he really needs to show me that. 180 00:06:39,708 --> 00:06:41,333 Like, if he wants to be with me, he needs to tell me that. 181 00:06:41,458 --> 00:06:43,167 It's certain things you can do 182 00:06:43,292 --> 00:06:44,708 to sweep a woman off her feet, you know? 183 00:06:44,833 --> 00:06:47,833 Like, hey, let's go to the movies today, 184 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,125 or calling me and say, hey, how are you doing? 185 00:06:50,250 --> 00:06:52,083 You know, is your day going well? 186 00:06:52,208 --> 00:06:54,000 Just the small things. - Yeah. 187 00:06:54,125 --> 00:06:55,833 - Like, being intentional and being connected, 188 00:06:55,958 --> 00:06:57,625 it's all about that connection. - OK. 189 00:06:57,708 --> 00:07:01,583 - Can I tell you that marriage is the small things? 190 00:07:01,708 --> 00:07:03,458 You know, a lot of times, we think it's the-- 191 00:07:03,583 --> 00:07:05,833 you know, it's the big things, the things we do 192 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,333 and the things--the goals we accomplish together. 193 00:07:08,458 --> 00:07:12,833 But in all actuality, it's every single day 194 00:07:12,917 --> 00:07:14,417 and all the little things that you do. 195 00:07:14,542 --> 00:07:15,875 So I mean, you're saying great things. 196 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,792 - Yeah, 'cause let me tell you, it means the world 197 00:07:17,917 --> 00:07:20,167 when my husband kisses me and says I'm beautiful 198 00:07:20,333 --> 00:07:21,667 when I feel like I have cankles. 199 00:07:21,792 --> 00:07:23,833 [laughter] - That's sweet. 200 00:07:23,917 --> 00:07:25,583 But it's the small things. - Yeah. 201 00:07:25,708 --> 00:07:27,750 So in the conversation with your brother, 202 00:07:27,875 --> 00:07:31,167 you tell him that you and Shaq aren't having conversations 203 00:07:31,292 --> 00:07:33,167 about Decision Day, right? 204 00:07:33,333 --> 00:07:35,458 So are you just avoiding the subject? 205 00:07:35,583 --> 00:07:37,500 - No. - Like, what is going on? 206 00:07:37,625 --> 00:07:40,292 - No, Shaquille is avoiding the conversation. 207 00:07:40,417 --> 00:07:41,667 Like, I'm asking him, like, 208 00:07:41,750 --> 00:07:43,458 so what do you think about Decision Day? 209 00:07:43,542 --> 00:07:44,917 What do you think your decision is gonna be? 210 00:07:45,042 --> 00:07:48,125 I'm actually being vulnerable and trying to talk about it. 211 00:07:48,208 --> 00:07:50,167 I really feel like what is making 212 00:07:50,333 --> 00:07:53,542 him down about this marriage is that whole Memphis ordeal. 213 00:07:53,667 --> 00:07:55,333 Like, I don't know if he got past me 214 00:07:55,458 --> 00:07:58,500 not traveling to Memphis with him, but I didn't go 215 00:07:58,583 --> 00:07:59,583 to Memphis with him-- - Oh, come on. 216 00:07:59,708 --> 00:08:01,333 - I know. - You gotta let this stuff go. 217 00:08:01,458 --> 00:08:03,375 - Shaq... - Tell me about it. 218 00:08:03,542 --> 00:08:06,208 - Friend, we gotta talk. - Tell me about it. 219 00:08:06,375 --> 00:08:07,583 And that's what we're going through 220 00:08:07,708 --> 00:08:09,250 throughout our marriage the entire time. 221 00:08:09,375 --> 00:08:10,792 It's those roadblocks. 222 00:08:10,875 --> 00:08:12,500 And I'm like, well, if we continue 223 00:08:12,667 --> 00:08:14,333 to have these roadblocks and not overcome them, 224 00:08:14,500 --> 00:08:16,458 how can we continue to stay married? 225 00:08:16,542 --> 00:08:18,667 - Letting things go is a sign of maturity. 226 00:08:18,750 --> 00:08:20,208 - Yeah. - And contrary 227 00:08:20,333 --> 00:08:23,208 to popular belief, maturity doesn't just come from age. 228 00:08:23,375 --> 00:08:24,542 It's a part of growth... - Mm-hmm. 229 00:08:24,667 --> 00:08:25,917 - You know, just making sure that you're 230 00:08:26,042 --> 00:08:27,375 doing things that are going to affect 231 00:08:27,542 --> 00:08:28,750 your relationships positively. - Yes. 232 00:08:28,875 --> 00:08:31,500 - And one of those major, major factors 233 00:08:31,625 --> 00:08:34,167 is letting go of things that don't serve you. 234 00:08:34,292 --> 00:08:35,833 - Mm-hmm. - Amen. 235 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,167 - I feel like we need to be snapping or something 236 00:08:37,333 --> 00:08:38,333 on that one right there. 237 00:08:38,458 --> 00:08:39,667 - Definitely letting it go. 238 00:08:39,792 --> 00:08:41,292 And I think that he is struggling 239 00:08:41,375 --> 00:08:43,792 with that throughout this marriage is releasing things. 240 00:08:43,917 --> 00:08:44,875 - OK. 241 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,292 Jasmine, so where are you in Airris? 242 00:08:46,375 --> 00:08:48,500 You guys have come so far. 243 00:08:48,625 --> 00:08:50,500 Are you talking about Decision Day? 244 00:08:50,625 --> 00:08:52,917 - We have definitely had conversations about, you know, 245 00:08:53,042 --> 00:08:54,333 what we're thinking our decision 246 00:08:54,458 --> 00:08:55,833 will be on Decision Day. 247 00:08:55,917 --> 00:08:59,667 But we also try to table it and say, 248 00:08:59,750 --> 00:09:01,792 because we kind of had a slow start, 249 00:09:01,875 --> 00:09:04,667 we're just trying to continue to see where it goes. 250 00:09:04,833 --> 00:09:07,667 - OK, so it sounds like Shaquille is definitely 251 00:09:07,750 --> 00:09:09,917 having a hard time, like, balancing his work 252 00:09:10,042 --> 00:09:12,208 and his personal life. 253 00:09:12,375 --> 00:09:15,750 If that doesn't change, is that a no for you on Decision Day? 254 00:09:15,875 --> 00:09:19,333 - I'm still willing to work through this marriage 255 00:09:19,417 --> 00:09:21,500 to see if it could possibly change 256 00:09:21,625 --> 00:09:24,667 after filming and everything is done, you know? 257 00:09:24,750 --> 00:09:26,375 I mean, I have a little hope. 258 00:09:26,500 --> 00:09:29,833 I really feel like I understand why we're matched together. 259 00:09:29,958 --> 00:09:31,250 - OK. 260 00:09:31,375 --> 00:09:32,333 Do you have any advice, Jasmine, 261 00:09:32,417 --> 00:09:33,125 before we take this quick break? 262 00:09:33,208 --> 00:09:34,833 - Uh-uh. 263 00:09:34,917 --> 00:09:36,417 I'm here to get it. Mm-mm. 264 00:09:36,542 --> 00:09:37,917 [laughter] I don't got-- 265 00:09:41,917 --> 00:09:44,167 So, Jasmine, you and Airris are definitely taking baby 266 00:09:44,250 --> 00:09:45,708 toward physical intimacy. 267 00:09:45,875 --> 00:09:48,542 You, however, took a pole dancing class 268 00:09:48,667 --> 00:09:50,667 to help keep up the momentum. 269 00:09:50,792 --> 00:09:53,000 Let's watch that back. 270 00:09:53,083 --> 00:09:54,583 ♪ ♪ 271 00:09:54,708 --> 00:09:56,958 - Take it from the top. 272 00:09:57,042 --> 00:09:58,458 - Here we go. 273 00:09:58,542 --> 00:10:01,750 ♪ ♪ 274 00:10:01,875 --> 00:10:05,125 - ♪ It's my time, and I'm taking my shot ♪ 275 00:10:05,208 --> 00:10:09,000 ♪ I'ma fly, give it all that I got ♪ 276 00:10:09,125 --> 00:10:13,125 ♪ If I'm gonna dream, then I'm gonna dream big ♪ 277 00:10:13,250 --> 00:10:14,667 ♪ Dream big ♪ 278 00:10:14,792 --> 00:10:18,417 - Hoo! [applause] 279 00:10:18,542 --> 00:10:20,458 - We can get one for the house. 280 00:10:20,583 --> 00:10:22,042 - A pole for the house? - Yeah. 281 00:10:22,208 --> 00:10:23,667 [laughter] 282 00:10:23,833 --> 00:10:25,917 - I cannot. [laughs] 283 00:10:26,042 --> 00:10:29,375 - He's talking about past Decision Day now. 284 00:10:29,542 --> 00:10:30,875 - Yeah, he said getting one in the house. 285 00:10:31,042 --> 00:10:32,167 - Talking about the pole installed in the house. 286 00:10:32,333 --> 00:10:34,167 - Oh, my gosh. 287 00:10:34,250 --> 00:10:36,875 - So is this your first pole dancing class? 288 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,125 - It was my first pole dancing class. 289 00:10:39,208 --> 00:10:40,625 - OK. OK. 290 00:10:40,750 --> 00:10:42,458 - It was fun. I don't remember-- 291 00:10:42,542 --> 00:10:43,333 - Did you know Airris was coming? 292 00:10:43,458 --> 00:10:45,375 - No! - Ah. 293 00:10:45,542 --> 00:10:47,292 - I did not know he was coming. - OK. OK. 294 00:10:47,375 --> 00:10:48,333 - I don't know what it is. 295 00:10:48,458 --> 00:10:50,417 Like, a pole is a magic pill 296 00:10:50,542 --> 00:10:53,333 for building intimacy. 297 00:10:53,417 --> 00:10:55,417 And I agree with him on bringing one in the house. 298 00:10:55,542 --> 00:10:56,667 That's all I'm saying. 299 00:10:56,750 --> 00:10:58,333 - Oh! - Keisha, you getting a pole? 300 00:10:58,458 --> 00:11:00,500 - So we got kids now. 301 00:11:00,667 --> 00:11:04,292 But bachelorette Keisha, before I was married, 302 00:11:04,375 --> 00:11:05,833 I had a pole in my house. - Oh! 303 00:11:05,958 --> 00:11:08,583 - I absolutely had a pole. - OK. 304 00:11:08,708 --> 00:11:10,917 - Did you feel--'cause, like, we can see it. 305 00:11:11,042 --> 00:11:13,917 Like, the chemistry, the attraction, 306 00:11:14,042 --> 00:11:16,542 do you feel his eyes on you? 307 00:11:16,708 --> 00:11:18,583 - Yeah, I felt his--yeah. - OK. 308 00:11:18,708 --> 00:11:20,833 - I felt his eyes on me. 309 00:11:20,958 --> 00:11:23,250 - His eyes, his smile, the money. 310 00:11:23,375 --> 00:11:25,458 He looked like he was ready to take you home. 311 00:11:25,583 --> 00:11:27,500 So I feel like this is his area right now. 312 00:11:27,667 --> 00:11:29,417 He's very turned on by Jasmine, 313 00:11:29,542 --> 00:11:31,125 and she's looking good, 314 00:11:31,250 --> 00:11:33,083 you know, from top to bottom, on the floor, 315 00:11:33,208 --> 00:11:35,500 on the pole, all the way around the pole. 316 00:11:35,625 --> 00:11:37,833 So he's, like, having a good time, 317 00:11:37,917 --> 00:11:40,083 and I'm loving to see him in this type of atmosphere, 318 00:11:40,208 --> 00:11:41,417 like, admiring his wife. 319 00:11:41,542 --> 00:11:44,208 - I feel that Airris is dropping you 320 00:11:44,333 --> 00:11:45,958 lines and hints. 321 00:11:46,042 --> 00:11:48,042 And I don't know if you're reading between these lines, 322 00:11:48,167 --> 00:11:50,667 but he wants you to step outside the box... 323 00:11:50,833 --> 00:11:54,542 - Mm-hmm. - Take control, and shock him. 324 00:11:54,667 --> 00:11:56,208 Just man-to-man, that's--you know, 325 00:11:56,375 --> 00:11:59,250 me seeing what he's doing, that's my take on it 326 00:11:59,375 --> 00:12:03,833 is that he's looking for you to really show what you can do. 327 00:12:03,917 --> 00:12:05,417 And he doesn't want to have to tell you. 328 00:12:05,542 --> 00:12:07,833 And I think that was a great example of you doing it. 329 00:12:07,917 --> 00:12:08,833 - I second that motion. 330 00:12:08,958 --> 00:12:10,500 - OK. [laughs] - Yeah. 331 00:12:10,583 --> 00:12:12,667 - OK. - But embrace it. 332 00:12:12,833 --> 00:12:14,417 And this is the fun. 333 00:12:14,542 --> 00:12:16,125 Marriage is supposed to be fun, 334 00:12:16,208 --> 00:12:18,375 so when you're having fun, that's what you lean into. 335 00:12:18,542 --> 00:12:20,833 - Absolutely. - I love it. 336 00:12:20,958 --> 00:12:22,458 - So what did y'all do after the pole dancing class? 337 00:12:22,583 --> 00:12:25,167 - Nothing. - OK, no more? 338 00:12:25,250 --> 00:12:26,333 - Mm-mm. 339 00:12:26,458 --> 00:12:27,625 - 'Cause I mean, in this episode, 340 00:12:27,750 --> 00:12:29,458 we see y'all pull out the feathers 341 00:12:29,542 --> 00:12:30,833 and the handcuffs. - Oh, God. 342 00:12:30,917 --> 00:12:32,833 - That's what happened when y'all got home. 343 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,625 And y'all pulled out feathers talking about-- 344 00:12:34,708 --> 00:12:35,875 what's that word, babe? 345 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,000 - I'm not saying nothing. 346 00:12:37,167 --> 00:12:38,333 [laughter] 347 00:12:38,458 --> 00:12:39,875 - It's what Airris said. - It starts with a G. 348 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:41,333 What is it, a-- - The gooch? 349 00:12:41,458 --> 00:12:42,458 - The gooch? - Oh, God. 350 00:12:42,583 --> 00:12:44,792 - Yes. - Does it tickle? 351 00:12:44,917 --> 00:12:46,000 - It's probably, like, certain areas that are 352 00:12:46,125 --> 00:12:47,958 more sensitive than others. 353 00:12:48,083 --> 00:12:50,792 Like, I'm sure a feather on the gooch 354 00:12:50,875 --> 00:12:52,542 would probably feel sensational. 355 00:12:52,667 --> 00:12:53,667 - All right. 356 00:12:53,792 --> 00:12:56,250 [laughter] 357 00:12:56,375 --> 00:12:58,458 - You know I had to explain to her what the gooch was. 358 00:12:58,583 --> 00:13:00,625 - I'm like, what's a gooch? 359 00:13:00,750 --> 00:13:01,708 Y'all know what a gooch is? 360 00:13:01,833 --> 00:13:03,333 - He had to explain it to me. 361 00:13:03,458 --> 00:13:05,708 - Well, apparently, the gooch, 362 00:13:05,875 --> 00:13:07,500 it's like the taint... - Yup. 363 00:13:07,583 --> 00:13:08,875 - But on a man. 364 00:13:09,042 --> 00:13:10,000 - I guess I just never called it that. 365 00:13:10,167 --> 00:13:11,042 - OK, we'll move on. We'll move on. 366 00:13:11,208 --> 00:13:13,375 - Yes, please. Please move on. - Please. 367 00:13:13,542 --> 00:13:15,708 - I think Airris wants to be smacked around a little bit. 368 00:13:15,875 --> 00:13:17,167 I'm just being honest. 369 00:13:17,292 --> 00:13:19,042 He's like, smack me. 370 00:13:19,208 --> 00:13:20,375 Smack me harder. 371 00:13:20,542 --> 00:13:23,833 [laughter] 372 00:13:23,917 --> 00:13:25,333 - Oh, my God. 373 00:13:25,417 --> 00:13:26,708 - Listen, y'all saw it on tonight's episode, 374 00:13:26,875 --> 00:13:28,250 so we cannot glaze over that. 375 00:13:28,375 --> 00:13:29,500 It happened. - Indeed. 376 00:13:29,625 --> 00:13:30,625 - How was that smacking him? 377 00:13:30,708 --> 00:13:33,458 - I mean, it was fine. 378 00:13:33,583 --> 00:13:36,833 I wasn't--like, I-- 379 00:13:36,917 --> 00:13:38,917 I just couldn't wrap my brain around smacking him. 380 00:13:39,042 --> 00:13:40,833 Like, he was like, smack me. 381 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,083 And in my head, I'm, like, thinking about all the things 382 00:13:43,208 --> 00:13:44,958 he's done done in the past six weeks. 383 00:13:45,083 --> 00:13:46,500 And so I'm just like, it would have came 384 00:13:46,583 --> 00:13:50,500 from more of a bad place than a fun place, you know? 385 00:13:50,667 --> 00:13:51,708 - I think he was ready to take it. 386 00:13:51,833 --> 00:13:53,208 I'm just saying. 387 00:13:53,375 --> 00:13:55,250 - Wherever it came from. 388 00:13:55,375 --> 00:13:57,417 - Wherever it came from, he was ready to take it. 389 00:13:57,542 --> 00:13:59,167 How about that? 390 00:13:59,250 --> 00:14:01,625 Well, all right, so, Kirsten, you confronted 391 00:14:01,708 --> 00:14:03,333 Shaquille about how you've been feeling 392 00:14:03,500 --> 00:14:04,750 in your marriage lately. 393 00:14:04,875 --> 00:14:06,667 Let's watch that back. 394 00:14:06,750 --> 00:14:08,833 ♪ ♪ 395 00:14:08,958 --> 00:14:10,375 - When you come home, I don't feel 396 00:14:10,500 --> 00:14:11,708 like you're happy to be here. 397 00:14:11,875 --> 00:14:13,833 Sometimes you don't talk, and I'm like, 398 00:14:13,917 --> 00:14:15,500 I just don't get that feeling. 399 00:14:15,625 --> 00:14:18,542 ♪ ♪ 400 00:14:22,292 --> 00:14:25,083 ♪ ♪ 401 00:14:28,500 --> 00:14:29,917 ♪ ♪ 402 00:14:30,042 --> 00:14:30,917 - It's like, why we here? 403 00:14:31,042 --> 00:14:32,250 Do we like each other? 404 00:14:32,375 --> 00:14:34,792 Like, what's going on? 405 00:14:34,917 --> 00:14:36,000 - We never had a conversation about it, 406 00:14:36,125 --> 00:14:38,625 and I didn't know you felt like that. 407 00:14:38,708 --> 00:14:40,000 - Yeah. 408 00:14:40,125 --> 00:14:44,667 Well, I'm telling you now so we can work on it. 409 00:14:44,833 --> 00:14:46,000 - I feel you. 410 00:14:46,125 --> 00:14:48,042 How do you feel watching that back? 411 00:14:48,167 --> 00:14:50,292 - I'm starting to feel a little stressed right now, 412 00:14:50,417 --> 00:14:51,667 honestly. - Why? 413 00:14:51,750 --> 00:14:52,917 - Because it's like, I'm sitting here 414 00:14:53,042 --> 00:14:55,042 expressing to him how I'm feeling 415 00:14:55,208 --> 00:14:57,125 and asking him how can we work on it, 416 00:14:57,208 --> 00:14:59,167 and he's still not giving me any feedback, 417 00:14:59,250 --> 00:15:00,500 which is showing me right now that he's 418 00:15:00,625 --> 00:15:02,917 not even interested in being in this marriage. 419 00:15:03,042 --> 00:15:05,167 So how can we move forward and stay married forever? 420 00:15:05,292 --> 00:15:07,417 - Yeah. - He's very shifty. 421 00:15:07,542 --> 00:15:09,417 - So is this a consistent-- like, so he consistently 422 00:15:09,542 --> 00:15:11,500 kind of is hot and cold? 423 00:15:11,625 --> 00:15:13,917 - Yes, he's in and out of the marriage all the time, 424 00:15:14,042 --> 00:15:16,750 and that's because he has multiple things going on. 425 00:15:16,875 --> 00:15:19,042 So if he's not doing well in his PhD program 426 00:15:19,208 --> 00:15:21,667 or whatever he has going on in his outside life, 427 00:15:21,750 --> 00:15:24,250 he's bringing it into the house. 428 00:15:24,375 --> 00:15:26,208 And if you're not gonna talk about what's going on with you, 429 00:15:26,375 --> 00:15:28,000 how can we be there for each other? 430 00:15:28,167 --> 00:15:29,958 - Mm. OK. - I just know-- 431 00:15:30,083 --> 00:15:31,958 I feel like this whole time, I've been, like, 432 00:15:32,083 --> 00:15:33,708 cursing, like, girl. 433 00:15:33,833 --> 00:15:36,000 And then watching it back, I'm like, ooh. 434 00:15:36,125 --> 00:15:38,792 Like, that was real dry. 435 00:15:38,917 --> 00:15:39,917 - But I think this goes back to what 436 00:15:40,042 --> 00:15:41,167 we talked about earlier, which is, 437 00:15:41,292 --> 00:15:43,083 he's gotta learn to let go. 438 00:15:43,208 --> 00:15:44,708 - Yeah. - You know? 439 00:15:44,875 --> 00:15:46,167 - You can't be walking around with your panties in a bunch, 440 00:15:46,250 --> 00:15:48,292 mad about everything that happened four weeks ago. 441 00:15:48,375 --> 00:15:49,792 - Right. - Right. 442 00:15:49,917 --> 00:15:51,125 'Cause you won't be able to move forward. 443 00:15:51,250 --> 00:15:52,875 - And I had that same conversation with him. 444 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:54,500 - And I think you said it very bluntly too. 445 00:15:54,625 --> 00:15:56,333 I love the way that you put it right here: 446 00:15:56,500 --> 00:15:57,750 well, I'm saying it now. 447 00:15:57,875 --> 00:15:59,000 - Mm-hmm. - You know? 448 00:15:59,125 --> 00:16:00,750 - I was like, uh-oh. 449 00:16:00,875 --> 00:16:03,167 The real Kirsten jumping out real quick on-screen right now. 450 00:16:03,333 --> 00:16:05,833 - And I took all I can take. 451 00:16:05,958 --> 00:16:07,708 And, like, I'm taking all I can take right now. 452 00:16:07,875 --> 00:16:09,875 I'm trying my best to have positive energy. 453 00:16:10,042 --> 00:16:11,500 I'm still at the house washing our clothes. 454 00:16:11,667 --> 00:16:12,833 I'm still at the house cooking. 455 00:16:12,958 --> 00:16:14,125 Like, I'm still trying to check on him. 456 00:16:14,250 --> 00:16:15,333 I'm letting him know what I need. 457 00:16:15,458 --> 00:16:16,833 - And you have a whole job and a whole career. 458 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,250 - Yeah. 459 00:16:18,375 --> 00:16:19,750 - So Brad, do you have any advice? 460 00:16:19,875 --> 00:16:21,708 - You are who you practice to be. 461 00:16:21,875 --> 00:16:23,792 So all these things that you're doing, 462 00:16:23,875 --> 00:16:25,833 I would say continue to do them, 463 00:16:25,917 --> 00:16:28,250 because who you are is gonna be who you are. 464 00:16:28,375 --> 00:16:33,375 Like, when I met my wife, she wasn't already my wife, 465 00:16:33,542 --> 00:16:36,417 but she behaved and did certain things 466 00:16:36,542 --> 00:16:39,667 that let me know, like, the caliber and quality of a woman 467 00:16:39,792 --> 00:16:41,250 that she was, so don't-- 468 00:16:41,375 --> 00:16:42,458 - Is. 469 00:16:42,542 --> 00:16:43,792 - Is. - Is. 470 00:16:43,917 --> 00:16:45,917 - So don't shy away from the things 471 00:16:46,042 --> 00:16:47,375 that you're doing that you love about yourself. 472 00:16:47,542 --> 00:16:49,292 - Absolutely. 473 00:16:53,042 --> 00:16:54,167 All right, Kirsten, you and Shaq updated your mom 474 00:16:54,250 --> 00:16:56,000 about your marriage, and she left you 475 00:16:56,125 --> 00:16:57,625 with some motherly advice. 476 00:16:57,708 --> 00:16:58,667 Let's watch that back. 477 00:16:58,792 --> 00:17:01,625 ♪ ♪ 478 00:17:01,708 --> 00:17:04,667 - I wish my brother was able to come today, 479 00:17:04,792 --> 00:17:07,167 but he's working. 480 00:17:07,250 --> 00:17:10,708 - Kirsten has planned a family dinner with her family and I. 481 00:17:10,833 --> 00:17:14,167 And it's kind of really weird because the only person 482 00:17:14,250 --> 00:17:15,792 that showed up was her mom. 483 00:17:15,875 --> 00:17:17,208 But hey, we're here. 484 00:17:17,333 --> 00:17:18,958 ♪ ♪ 485 00:17:19,042 --> 00:17:23,500 - Words of wisdom to you all... 486 00:17:23,625 --> 00:17:26,208 let the expectations down. 487 00:17:26,333 --> 00:17:29,167 Yeah, let those down, and enjoy each other. 488 00:17:29,292 --> 00:17:30,667 Relax. 489 00:17:30,792 --> 00:17:31,792 Laugh. 490 00:17:31,917 --> 00:17:33,000 Smile. 491 00:17:33,125 --> 00:17:35,333 Breathe. You know? 492 00:17:35,458 --> 00:17:37,125 That's what the love grows from. 493 00:17:37,208 --> 00:17:38,667 - Ooh! - That was good. 494 00:17:38,750 --> 00:17:39,833 - Mama didn't play no game. 495 00:17:39,958 --> 00:17:41,208 - I really feel like she's giving us 496 00:17:41,375 --> 00:17:43,208 great advice right now because Shaquille and I 497 00:17:43,333 --> 00:17:45,167 are under so much pressure, 498 00:17:45,333 --> 00:17:46,958 and we're like, where do we even turn? 499 00:17:47,083 --> 00:17:48,417 Like, although the rest of my family 500 00:17:48,542 --> 00:17:53,083 didn't show up that day, I appreciate her for showing up 501 00:17:53,208 --> 00:17:55,667 and, you know, really speaking over our marriage. 502 00:17:55,833 --> 00:17:56,667 - Yeah. - When I saw your mom 503 00:17:56,750 --> 00:17:58,458 walk in looking that young, 504 00:17:58,542 --> 00:18:01,375 I did not expect to hear that great advice-- 505 00:18:01,500 --> 00:18:04,292 - That wisdom. - Yeah, come out of her mouth. 506 00:18:04,375 --> 00:18:06,250 That was spot-on. - It was. 507 00:18:06,375 --> 00:18:07,667 - Gotta drop those expectations. 508 00:18:07,792 --> 00:18:10,250 - It made me laugh, though. He was like, I found her. 509 00:18:10,375 --> 00:18:12,125 - All right, see if she here. 510 00:18:12,208 --> 00:18:14,083 [line rings] 511 00:18:14,208 --> 00:18:16,083 - She's in a black car. 512 00:18:16,208 --> 00:18:19,000 I have a headache, and I need to eat. 513 00:18:19,083 --> 00:18:20,792 I don't want to be hangry. 514 00:18:20,875 --> 00:18:22,833 ♪ ♪ 515 00:18:22,917 --> 00:18:24,833 - I found her. - [laughs] 516 00:18:24,958 --> 00:18:26,000 - Hey, Mama. 517 00:18:26,167 --> 00:18:27,917 I'm glad you made it. 518 00:18:28,042 --> 00:18:29,750 - It made me think back to your wedding. 519 00:18:29,875 --> 00:18:31,500 I was like, your mama just always getting lost. 520 00:18:31,667 --> 00:18:32,833 What's going on? 521 00:18:32,958 --> 00:18:34,167 - Yeah, she gets lost in the South. 522 00:18:34,250 --> 00:18:35,792 I don't know. I'm like, please, go find her. 523 00:18:35,917 --> 00:18:37,208 Please. Help her out. 524 00:18:37,333 --> 00:18:38,792 - How long was she lost for? 525 00:18:38,917 --> 00:18:40,083 - A long time. - Really? 526 00:18:40,208 --> 00:18:41,375 - It took her a long time to get there. 527 00:18:41,542 --> 00:18:42,625 That's why I was already eating. 528 00:18:42,708 --> 00:18:44,000 I'm like, I'm hungry, 529 00:18:44,125 --> 00:18:45,833 and, like, Mom, come on. 530 00:18:45,917 --> 00:18:47,917 - OK. But I love that. 531 00:18:48,042 --> 00:18:49,292 So where was your dad? 532 00:18:49,417 --> 00:18:51,792 - My dad, he he's not one to film at all. 533 00:18:51,875 --> 00:18:53,833 - So is that challenging for you? 534 00:18:53,917 --> 00:18:56,000 - I would say a lot of things 535 00:18:56,125 --> 00:18:57,958 are challenging for me in this marriage, 536 00:18:58,042 --> 00:19:00,125 because Shaquille's family is not here. 537 00:19:00,208 --> 00:19:03,000 And I know how important it is for Shaquille 538 00:19:03,125 --> 00:19:04,792 to be a part of my family. 539 00:19:04,875 --> 00:19:07,708 And I'm doing all that I can to make that happen, 540 00:19:07,875 --> 00:19:10,167 and it's like, sometimes I don't feel like Shaquille 541 00:19:10,292 --> 00:19:12,667 believes that or knows that I am. 542 00:19:12,792 --> 00:19:15,042 - He seems to be taking everything personally. 543 00:19:15,208 --> 00:19:17,500 - Shaquille always takes everything so personal. 544 00:19:17,667 --> 00:19:20,375 And I'm like, Shaquille, I'm trying because I understand 545 00:19:20,500 --> 00:19:22,333 the importance of everything. 546 00:19:22,458 --> 00:19:24,500 - You know, you guys had some really great moments, 547 00:19:24,583 --> 00:19:26,625 like when you were body painting 548 00:19:26,708 --> 00:19:28,167 and, you know, all of those moments 549 00:19:28,250 --> 00:19:30,833 kind of in the beginning of everything. 550 00:19:30,958 --> 00:19:33,625 Where is that Shaquille? 551 00:19:33,750 --> 00:19:36,667 - I really don't know where he is. 552 00:19:36,750 --> 00:19:39,333 I just feel like he's drifting away minute by minute. 553 00:19:39,500 --> 00:19:43,083 Like, he's so dis-attached from this marriage, 554 00:19:43,208 --> 00:19:45,250 and it's challenging. 555 00:19:45,375 --> 00:19:46,375 - And I feel like you know that, like, 556 00:19:46,500 --> 00:19:48,000 Shaquille is, like, a good guy. 557 00:19:48,125 --> 00:19:50,000 - Yeah. - And it's like-- 558 00:19:50,125 --> 00:19:51,625 - How do we get him out of the pity party? 559 00:19:51,708 --> 00:19:53,000 I'm like, I just want to shake him. 560 00:19:53,125 --> 00:19:54,208 - Right? - Like, Shaquille, stop it. 561 00:19:54,333 --> 00:19:55,833 - Right? - Stop it. 562 00:19:55,958 --> 00:19:57,208 - Yeah. 563 00:19:57,333 --> 00:19:58,333 - Well, the viewers definitely had 564 00:19:58,500 --> 00:20:00,500 some comments about you and Shaq. 565 00:20:00,625 --> 00:20:02,542 Alyssa from Long Beach, California, says... 566 00:20:13,583 --> 00:20:15,208 So what do you think about that? 567 00:20:15,375 --> 00:20:17,583 - Alyssa, I definitely appreciate you 568 00:20:17,708 --> 00:20:19,500 for seeing my effort, because I know 569 00:20:19,625 --> 00:20:21,458 that's what you have to do when you're in the marriage. 570 00:20:21,542 --> 00:20:23,583 You have to continue to put forth the effort in that, 571 00:20:23,708 --> 00:20:26,292 like, no matter how down Shaquille gets, 572 00:20:26,375 --> 00:20:28,333 no matter if things do or don't work out, 573 00:20:28,458 --> 00:20:30,792 I'm always going to continue to put in the effort 574 00:20:30,875 --> 00:20:32,500 and work everything out. 575 00:20:32,583 --> 00:20:34,917 But I can only do so much as a person. 576 00:20:35,042 --> 00:20:37,542 He has to do the same thing too. 577 00:20:37,708 --> 00:20:40,375 - So what do you think, babe, of Shaquille so far? 578 00:20:40,500 --> 00:20:41,542 If he was here, what advice would you give him? 579 00:20:41,708 --> 00:20:43,125 - You guys are looking out for each other, 580 00:20:43,250 --> 00:20:44,375 and I would remind him, like, 581 00:20:44,542 --> 00:20:46,458 she has your best interests at heart. 582 00:20:46,583 --> 00:20:48,375 - Absolutely. - She wants the best for you. 583 00:20:48,542 --> 00:20:50,583 She wants you to succeed in everything 584 00:20:50,708 --> 00:20:53,125 that you're doing, because his success means 585 00:20:53,208 --> 00:20:55,083 the success of both of you. 586 00:20:55,208 --> 00:20:56,708 So I would remind him of that and tell him 587 00:20:56,875 --> 00:20:59,000 to let go of the stuff that doesn't serve him. 588 00:20:59,167 --> 00:21:01,125 - So, Jasmine, as Kirsten's friend, 589 00:21:01,208 --> 00:21:02,958 you know, how do you see her 590 00:21:03,083 --> 00:21:04,375 and Shaquille's marriage changing? 591 00:21:04,500 --> 00:21:07,000 Like, are you sensing any of this from the outside or... 592 00:21:07,125 --> 00:21:09,542 - I've always kind of told her that I always feel like 593 00:21:09,667 --> 00:21:12,417 they're on opposite-- like, she'll feel 594 00:21:12,542 --> 00:21:14,458 one way about how things are going, 595 00:21:14,542 --> 00:21:15,833 and he'll feel one way. 596 00:21:15,917 --> 00:21:17,750 And we're like, are y'all in the same marriage? 597 00:21:17,875 --> 00:21:18,833 Like, what's happening? 598 00:21:18,958 --> 00:21:21,000 But then, you know, they got to a good space, 599 00:21:21,125 --> 00:21:22,625 and they were on the same page. 600 00:21:22,750 --> 00:21:26,458 And I feel like she has grown so much, like, in the marriage. 601 00:21:26,542 --> 00:21:28,625 And now I feel like he's at a point to kind of-- 602 00:21:28,708 --> 00:21:30,083 where he's kind of checking out. 603 00:21:30,208 --> 00:21:31,417 - Got it. 604 00:21:31,542 --> 00:21:33,500 So this is our last part of the segment 605 00:21:33,625 --> 00:21:36,667 before we swap out guests. 606 00:21:36,792 --> 00:21:39,875 Do you have any final words or pieces of advice 607 00:21:40,042 --> 00:21:42,792 for Kirsten or Jasmine, my love? 608 00:21:42,875 --> 00:21:45,417 - I'm really impressed with the effort 609 00:21:45,542 --> 00:21:48,458 that you guys are putting in, especially over time. 610 00:21:48,583 --> 00:21:52,042 And realize that, you know, sometimes people 611 00:21:52,167 --> 00:21:54,500 have to go through their own journeys, 612 00:21:54,625 --> 00:21:57,750 and sometimes we put up walls to protect something, 613 00:21:57,875 --> 00:21:59,167 you know, in our lives. 614 00:21:59,250 --> 00:22:01,667 And you can only do what you can do. 615 00:22:01,750 --> 00:22:04,125 Control what you can control, but everything else, 616 00:22:04,250 --> 00:22:05,708 enjoy it. 617 00:22:05,875 --> 00:22:07,292 Learn from it. 618 00:22:07,375 --> 00:22:10,208 One of the greatest advancements that I'm seeing 619 00:22:10,375 --> 00:22:15,042 out of Airris and Jasmine is that they're actively 620 00:22:15,208 --> 00:22:18,167 learning and working the love. 621 00:22:18,250 --> 00:22:20,208 So it's gonna take that effort, 622 00:22:20,375 --> 00:22:21,625 and I see you doing the same thing, 623 00:22:21,750 --> 00:22:22,833 and it's really impressive. 624 00:22:22,958 --> 00:22:24,750 - Aw. 625 00:22:24,875 --> 00:22:27,625 OK, ladies, well, thank you so much for your insight 626 00:22:27,708 --> 00:22:30,667 on tonight's episode and for joining me this season. 627 00:22:30,833 --> 00:22:34,125 I truly wish you the best of luck in your marriages. 628 00:22:34,208 --> 00:22:35,583 I really do. 629 00:22:35,708 --> 00:22:37,167 And listen, we gonna be in a hospital room 630 00:22:37,250 --> 00:22:38,542 rooting for you. 631 00:22:38,667 --> 00:22:40,333 Let me tell you. - Please do. 632 00:22:44,125 --> 00:22:45,542 I'm sitting down with Gina, Airris, 633 00:22:45,708 --> 00:22:47,417 and special guest, my husband, Brad James. 634 00:22:47,542 --> 00:22:48,500 Welcome to the show, guys. 635 00:22:48,625 --> 00:22:50,542 How are you doing tonight? 636 00:22:50,667 --> 00:22:53,250 - Hey, we're finally here. - You both look so nice. 637 00:22:53,375 --> 00:22:55,333 - As do you. - Thank you very much. 638 00:22:55,500 --> 00:22:57,375 - Yeah, looking very fly. - [laughs] 639 00:22:57,542 --> 00:23:00,500 So Jasmine and Kirsten just gave us their insight 640 00:23:00,667 --> 00:23:03,292 on tonight's episode, and I cannot wait 641 00:23:03,375 --> 00:23:05,667 to get your viewpoints. 642 00:23:05,792 --> 00:23:08,250 Jasmine pulled the pole out on you this time. 643 00:23:08,375 --> 00:23:09,625 - Oh, yeah the pole, that was nice. 644 00:23:09,750 --> 00:23:11,542 [laughter] - Absolutely. 645 00:23:11,708 --> 00:23:13,083 So, Airris, you and Brad met 646 00:23:13,208 --> 00:23:15,167 on the first "Afterparty" of the season. 647 00:23:15,292 --> 00:23:16,625 So how do you feel-- 648 00:23:16,708 --> 00:23:18,708 you have some backup again, I guess. 649 00:23:18,833 --> 00:23:21,167 - I feel great having some reinforcement. 650 00:23:21,292 --> 00:23:23,250 Last time Brad was here, he had my back. 651 00:23:23,375 --> 00:23:24,417 - Gina, this is your first time... 652 00:23:24,542 --> 00:23:26,542 - Yeah. - Hanging out with Brad. 653 00:23:26,708 --> 00:23:27,667 - It is. 654 00:23:27,792 --> 00:23:29,708 I'm normally sitting with the gals, 655 00:23:29,875 --> 00:23:32,167 so it's good to have some, like, male energy in here 656 00:23:32,250 --> 00:23:34,625 and get some male insight tonight. 657 00:23:34,750 --> 00:23:35,500 - OK. 658 00:23:35,667 --> 00:23:37,292 So how are you feeling tonight? 659 00:23:37,417 --> 00:23:38,750 - I feel good. - You good? 660 00:23:38,875 --> 00:23:40,375 - I mean, you know, like, at this point of the season, 661 00:23:40,542 --> 00:23:42,500 it's really exciting. - OK. 662 00:23:42,625 --> 00:23:44,750 - You know, there's real feelings and emotions involved. 663 00:23:44,875 --> 00:23:47,208 And, you know, you just kind of-- 664 00:23:47,333 --> 00:23:48,708 you kind of see the growth in everyone. 665 00:23:48,875 --> 00:23:50,500 - Mm, absolutely. 666 00:23:50,625 --> 00:23:53,042 So cheers to everyone. 667 00:23:53,167 --> 00:23:56,083 - And to the new baby, yeah. - And to the new baby. 668 00:23:56,208 --> 00:23:57,292 - It's baby season. 669 00:23:57,417 --> 00:23:58,583 - Yeah. - Yeah. 670 00:23:58,708 --> 00:24:00,750 - OK, well, on tonight's episode, 671 00:24:00,875 --> 00:24:03,333 Clint hung out with someone we haven't seen in a while. 672 00:24:03,458 --> 00:24:04,792 Take a look at this. 673 00:24:04,917 --> 00:24:06,292 ♪ ♪ 674 00:24:06,375 --> 00:24:08,750 - No moves made yet, or-- 675 00:24:08,875 --> 00:24:10,708 - No moves. - So not vice versa either? 676 00:24:10,833 --> 00:24:12,333 She hasn't tried to put a move on you? 677 00:24:12,417 --> 00:24:13,750 - No. Like, I grazed her butt once. 678 00:24:13,875 --> 00:24:16,000 I was like, oh, my God, I'm so sorry. 679 00:24:16,125 --> 00:24:17,500 She's like, you don't have to be apologetic. 680 00:24:17,625 --> 00:24:19,000 - Right, right. 681 00:24:19,083 --> 00:24:21,333 I am surprised that Clint and Gina are not-- 682 00:24:21,417 --> 00:24:22,583 they're not attracted to each other. 683 00:24:22,708 --> 00:24:23,708 I think Clint's a good-looking dude, 684 00:24:23,875 --> 00:24:25,583 and I think Gina's a good-looking girl. 685 00:24:25,708 --> 00:24:27,542 Me and Gina are both entrepreneurs, hard workers, 686 00:24:27,708 --> 00:24:29,167 goal-oriented. 687 00:24:29,250 --> 00:24:30,167 Pretty sure she found me attractive, 688 00:24:30,292 --> 00:24:31,458 and I clearly think she's attractive. 689 00:24:31,583 --> 00:24:34,167 So yeah, I wish maybe me and Gina 690 00:24:34,333 --> 00:24:36,500 would have been matched over me and Dom. 691 00:24:36,667 --> 00:24:38,667 - Let's talk about this. 692 00:24:38,833 --> 00:24:40,292 - Well, that's new information. 693 00:24:40,375 --> 00:24:42,583 - Let's talk about this. 694 00:24:42,708 --> 00:24:44,000 - I'm gonna see myself out. No, I'm just kidding. 695 00:24:44,167 --> 00:24:45,667 [laughter] 696 00:24:45,792 --> 00:24:48,250 - Gina, I know that you are a married woman. 697 00:24:48,375 --> 00:24:49,542 But hypothetically, is Mackinley 698 00:24:49,708 --> 00:24:50,833 someone you'd ever date? 699 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,500 - Yeah, he is, yeah. 700 00:24:52,625 --> 00:24:54,792 - You would? - From what I knew about him. 701 00:24:54,917 --> 00:24:57,542 I think everyone on cast, though, is great. 702 00:24:57,708 --> 00:24:58,792 - OK, well, Gina, 703 00:24:58,917 --> 00:25:01,708 this conversation got viewers talking, 704 00:25:01,875 --> 00:25:04,125 and Chantel from Greenville, South Carolina, says... 705 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,500 Gina, what are your thoughts on that? 706 00:25:11,625 --> 00:25:14,000 - Yeah, if he's feeling the need to apologize, 707 00:25:14,125 --> 00:25:16,792 I don't know if maybe I need to let my guard down a little more 708 00:25:16,917 --> 00:25:19,250 or if he's just, like, in his head, 709 00:25:19,375 --> 00:25:20,833 which is interesting 'cause I don't feel like Clint's, 710 00:25:20,958 --> 00:25:23,500 like, really that attracted to me either. 711 00:25:23,625 --> 00:25:25,083 So it's like, I don't know. 712 00:25:25,208 --> 00:25:27,333 - But both of you, you guys are energetic, 713 00:25:27,458 --> 00:25:29,167 attractive, outgoing. 714 00:25:29,250 --> 00:25:31,500 It's like, it's so surprising that somebody, like, 715 00:25:31,667 --> 00:25:34,250 as cool as Clint and as cool as you are, 716 00:25:34,375 --> 00:25:35,833 like, you guys just, like, 717 00:25:35,958 --> 00:25:37,333 get a little nervous around each other, 718 00:25:37,458 --> 00:25:39,417 awkward or something. 719 00:25:39,542 --> 00:25:41,333 - And I'm confused by it 'cause when you visually-- 720 00:25:41,458 --> 00:25:42,833 like, when you see each other, 721 00:25:42,958 --> 00:25:45,500 you know, it seems like it should work. 722 00:25:45,625 --> 00:25:46,750 - I mean, we talk about that. 723 00:25:46,875 --> 00:25:48,292 We're like, we are perfect on paper 724 00:25:48,375 --> 00:25:49,750 and emotionally as far as, like, 725 00:25:49,875 --> 00:25:52,667 we're both very logical thinkers. 726 00:25:52,833 --> 00:25:56,042 And so for us, it's really just the chemistry. 727 00:25:56,167 --> 00:25:57,667 - So, Airris, when it comes to your relationship, 728 00:25:57,792 --> 00:25:59,667 how would you rank it in terms of-- 729 00:25:59,750 --> 00:26:01,750 is it one of the strongest or... 730 00:26:01,875 --> 00:26:03,542 - It's kind of in the middle. 731 00:26:03,667 --> 00:26:05,708 I know it's one of her frustrations. 732 00:26:05,875 --> 00:26:08,333 Like, you know, she wants to be intimate currently. 733 00:26:08,417 --> 00:26:09,958 But for me, it's having to, like, 734 00:26:10,083 --> 00:26:12,333 talk and get to know each other, 735 00:26:12,500 --> 00:26:14,833 whereas a lot of times in the past, like, 736 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,333 intimacy happened, like, way too soon, 737 00:26:16,417 --> 00:26:18,833 and the relationship was, like, solely based around that. 738 00:26:18,958 --> 00:26:21,250 So this is definitely a new territory. 739 00:26:21,375 --> 00:26:22,583 - OK. 740 00:26:22,708 --> 00:26:23,917 All right, Airris, you and Jasmine 741 00:26:24,042 --> 00:26:26,375 met up with a medium on tonight's episode. 742 00:26:26,542 --> 00:26:28,083 Let's see how that went. 743 00:26:28,208 --> 00:26:29,875 ♪ ♪ 744 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,750 - Airris, first energy I feel is 745 00:26:32,875 --> 00:26:36,708 a strong presence of female, very, very motherly. 746 00:26:36,875 --> 00:26:39,583 She loves you, and she's proud of you. 747 00:26:39,708 --> 00:26:41,458 And she says she wants you to settle down, 748 00:26:41,542 --> 00:26:42,625 and it's time to have children. 749 00:26:42,750 --> 00:26:43,667 She wants to see you settled. 750 00:26:43,792 --> 00:26:45,000 She's worried about you, 751 00:26:45,125 --> 00:26:47,500 and she likes Jasmine very much. 752 00:26:47,625 --> 00:26:50,208 And I hear, she's the first girl that I like. 753 00:26:50,375 --> 00:26:52,583 - [chuckles] 754 00:26:52,708 --> 00:26:54,958 - Your ancestors are coming from the grave 755 00:26:55,042 --> 00:26:56,333 to give their stamp of approval. 756 00:26:56,417 --> 00:26:58,000 - Man. - Dang. 757 00:26:58,125 --> 00:27:00,000 - She done reached out to Big Mama. 758 00:27:00,125 --> 00:27:01,292 - Right. [laughter] 759 00:27:01,375 --> 00:27:03,667 So how was that experience for you? 760 00:27:03,750 --> 00:27:05,667 - It actually was cool, like, and this was me 761 00:27:05,792 --> 00:27:07,208 stepping out of my comfort zone. 762 00:27:07,375 --> 00:27:09,333 If you would have asked me, like, probably ten years ago, 763 00:27:09,500 --> 00:27:11,542 I would have called it, like, some type of witchcraft. 764 00:27:11,708 --> 00:27:12,750 I wouldn't have wanted to have 765 00:27:12,875 --> 00:27:14,000 nothing to do with it. - OK. 766 00:27:14,167 --> 00:27:15,792 - But--and I was still kind of hesitant. 767 00:27:15,917 --> 00:27:17,167 Like, you could even see my facial expression. 768 00:27:17,333 --> 00:27:18,833 I was like, uh. - But it sounded like she was-- 769 00:27:18,958 --> 00:27:20,458 - Yeah, no, she was hitting-- - Hitting-- 770 00:27:20,542 --> 00:27:21,792 - She was, like, spot-on about me. 771 00:27:21,917 --> 00:27:23,792 She was spot-on about Jasmine. 772 00:27:23,917 --> 00:27:25,833 I mean, even stuff y'all, like, didn't see, 773 00:27:25,958 --> 00:27:26,708 you know, she was-- - Didn't see. 774 00:27:26,833 --> 00:27:28,000 Like, what didn't we see 775 00:27:28,167 --> 00:27:30,125 that you can-- that you want to share? 776 00:27:30,208 --> 00:27:33,000 - Jasmine had lost someone, like, very close to her, 777 00:27:33,125 --> 00:27:35,167 and she hadn't even really shared it with a lot of people. 778 00:27:35,250 --> 00:27:36,792 - Mm. - And the medium 779 00:27:36,917 --> 00:27:38,125 brought it up and was telling her 780 00:27:38,250 --> 00:27:40,708 that this person was, like, speaking to her. 781 00:27:40,875 --> 00:27:43,000 So it was kind of like, whoa. - Wow. 782 00:27:43,125 --> 00:27:44,667 - Like, you could feel, like, the energy in the room. 783 00:27:44,833 --> 00:27:48,042 I was like, wow, like, this is different. 784 00:27:48,167 --> 00:27:49,750 - Nice. - Yeah. 785 00:27:49,875 --> 00:27:52,542 - So, Gina, how do you feel about mediums and clairvoyants? 786 00:27:52,708 --> 00:27:54,500 - I feel like I agree with Airris a bit. 787 00:27:54,667 --> 00:27:56,542 I used to be a little bit weird about it 788 00:27:56,667 --> 00:27:57,875 just 'cause I've always been a person of faith. 789 00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,833 And so I'm like, OK, I'm a Christian. 790 00:27:59,958 --> 00:28:02,167 Like, is this weird to tap into that? 791 00:28:02,292 --> 00:28:05,792 But I definitely feel like God gives people intuitive gifts 792 00:28:05,917 --> 00:28:07,375 and speaks through people. 793 00:28:07,500 --> 00:28:08,667 So I think that's really cool 794 00:28:08,792 --> 00:28:09,833 that you guys have that experience. 795 00:28:09,958 --> 00:28:12,167 - OK, what would you have asked if you were there? 796 00:28:12,292 --> 00:28:14,500 - Like, can you please give me my decision? 797 00:28:14,625 --> 00:28:16,042 - [laughs] - Mm-hmm. 798 00:28:16,167 --> 00:28:17,458 I don't think it works that way. 799 00:28:17,542 --> 00:28:21,167 - What is my decision for Decision Day? 800 00:28:21,292 --> 00:28:24,375 - So, babe, what do you think about their experience? 801 00:28:24,500 --> 00:28:27,333 - In any relationship that you're 802 00:28:27,458 --> 00:28:29,875 pursuing a future with, especially with a marriage, 803 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,000 that you guys should experience things. 804 00:28:32,125 --> 00:28:33,958 Whether you agree with it or not, 805 00:28:34,042 --> 00:28:37,000 it's kind of like, that you're going through it together 806 00:28:37,125 --> 00:28:40,042 that gives, like, more feedback than anything, 807 00:28:40,167 --> 00:28:43,042 not even necessarily what the medium may or may not say. 808 00:28:43,208 --> 00:28:45,583 It's like, what did you guys gather from going there? 809 00:28:45,708 --> 00:28:46,875 And I think it just looked like fun. 810 00:28:47,042 --> 00:28:49,333 You know, I think everything that you maybe 811 00:28:49,417 --> 00:28:51,625 got from that experience was just icing on the cake, 812 00:28:51,708 --> 00:28:52,375 so I think it's cool. - Yeah. 813 00:28:56,208 --> 00:28:58,167 OK, Gina, you and Clint are still in the friend zone. 814 00:28:58,250 --> 00:29:00,042 And with Decision Day approaching, 815 00:29:00,167 --> 00:29:02,542 all hands are on deck to get you out of it. 816 00:29:02,708 --> 00:29:04,292 Take a look at this clip. 817 00:29:04,375 --> 00:29:06,125 ♪ ♪ 818 00:29:06,208 --> 00:29:09,667 - The physical attraction wasn't there in the beginning, 819 00:29:09,792 --> 00:29:11,333 and I feel like 820 00:29:11,500 --> 00:29:13,417 we talked about, like, some personality stuff, too, 821 00:29:13,542 --> 00:29:15,875 that I just feel like 822 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,333 has been a little bit of a mismatch. 823 00:29:18,417 --> 00:29:19,708 - For instance? 824 00:29:19,833 --> 00:29:22,750 - I think that Clint's personality is, like, 825 00:29:22,875 --> 00:29:24,875 outrageous and wild and fun 826 00:29:25,042 --> 00:29:26,958 and he's the life of the party 827 00:29:27,042 --> 00:29:29,583 and everyone is, like, consistently laughing, 828 00:29:29,708 --> 00:29:32,875 and he brings this energy that's, like, 829 00:29:33,042 --> 00:29:34,667 this sense of a bizarre energy 830 00:29:34,750 --> 00:29:36,500 that I've grown to love about him. 831 00:29:36,625 --> 00:29:38,333 At first, I was like, hmm, 832 00:29:38,458 --> 00:29:40,292 like, it's the crass sense of humor, like, 833 00:29:40,375 --> 00:29:43,917 almost, like, a feeling of secondhand embarrassment. 834 00:29:44,042 --> 00:29:45,708 - How did this just come up? 835 00:29:45,833 --> 00:29:48,000 Very interesting. 836 00:29:48,125 --> 00:29:51,375 - So, Gina, had you never expressed this to Clint? 837 00:29:51,542 --> 00:29:53,833 - I think it was a culmination of me really trying 838 00:29:53,917 --> 00:29:56,375 to process, well, like, what is it in my head 839 00:29:56,500 --> 00:29:58,667 that's actually not working? 840 00:29:58,833 --> 00:30:01,375 And we are at this point for probably 841 00:30:01,542 --> 00:30:04,375 the last week of really me taking, I know personally, 842 00:30:04,500 --> 00:30:06,292 the introspective work to, like, figure it out. 843 00:30:06,375 --> 00:30:09,042 Like, what is it that's really bothering me? 844 00:30:09,167 --> 00:30:12,542 And once I did, I think I just--it all came out. 845 00:30:12,708 --> 00:30:15,458 - Just--yeah. It was so-- - Processed. 846 00:30:15,542 --> 00:30:17,958 - Clint's face was like-- he was a deer in headlights. 847 00:30:18,042 --> 00:30:19,708 He was a little stunned. 848 00:30:19,833 --> 00:30:22,333 - I mean, I don't know how Clint doesn't know 849 00:30:22,458 --> 00:30:23,583 that he is that way. 850 00:30:23,708 --> 00:30:25,375 Like, he's the life of the party. 851 00:30:25,542 --> 00:30:26,417 He's the funny guy. 852 00:30:26,542 --> 00:30:27,917 He's the crazy, bizarre one. 853 00:30:28,042 --> 00:30:29,375 And he talks about that. 854 00:30:29,500 --> 00:30:30,792 Like, he'll tell you, I live on Front Street, 855 00:30:30,917 --> 00:30:32,208 and I do this and that. 856 00:30:32,333 --> 00:30:35,292 And so yeah, it's starting to feel like that's cool 857 00:30:35,417 --> 00:30:37,333 as, like, a fun friend, but it wasn't really 858 00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:39,458 feeling like a marriage. 859 00:30:39,542 --> 00:30:41,708 - Got it. Got it. - Hmm. 860 00:30:41,833 --> 00:30:45,167 I think that's very important and very telling. 861 00:30:45,292 --> 00:30:47,000 Because in the same conversation, 862 00:30:47,125 --> 00:30:48,792 I think you guys are hearing-- 863 00:30:48,875 --> 00:30:50,708 hearing different things. - Mm-hmm. 864 00:30:50,875 --> 00:30:53,042 - And in this conversation, like, you're saying, 865 00:30:53,208 --> 00:30:55,458 I don't know how he doesn't know he's these things. 866 00:30:55,583 --> 00:30:58,125 He knows he's these things, 867 00:30:58,250 --> 00:31:00,208 but he loves that about himself. 868 00:31:00,333 --> 00:31:01,458 He's not changing. 869 00:31:01,583 --> 00:31:03,083 - It's who he is. - Yeah. 870 00:31:03,208 --> 00:31:08,667 - So it's--you're finding fault with something that is so... 871 00:31:08,750 --> 00:31:13,000 - Clint. - Just innately who he is. 872 00:31:13,125 --> 00:31:15,708 So because it's innately who he is, 873 00:31:15,875 --> 00:31:17,917 he sees no issue with it. 874 00:31:18,042 --> 00:31:19,542 - And coming from you-- - And it's offensive to him. 875 00:31:19,708 --> 00:31:20,625 Yeah. - And coming from you, 876 00:31:20,708 --> 00:31:22,208 it hurts more. - Yeah. 877 00:31:22,375 --> 00:31:24,250 - And I always said, I mean, going into this process, 878 00:31:24,375 --> 00:31:26,333 I was like, I want someone that can make me laugh 879 00:31:26,458 --> 00:31:28,333 and is the life of the party and all of that. 880 00:31:28,417 --> 00:31:29,417 - Bam. 881 00:31:29,542 --> 00:31:31,000 - And I'm learning, like, OK, 882 00:31:31,125 --> 00:31:33,667 maybe I do need someone a little more reserved. 883 00:31:33,792 --> 00:31:35,667 Like, I always thought I was the loud one. 884 00:31:35,792 --> 00:31:37,250 - OK. 885 00:31:37,375 --> 00:31:39,333 Well, you have met your match, apparently. 886 00:31:39,458 --> 00:31:40,917 Well, Gina, the viewers had a lot to say 887 00:31:41,042 --> 00:31:42,333 about this conversation. 888 00:31:42,458 --> 00:31:45,542 Juliana, from Boston, Massachusetts, says... 889 00:31:55,083 --> 00:31:57,000 - I mean, I think we have to realize that this process 890 00:31:57,083 --> 00:31:59,500 is legitimately eight weeks long. 891 00:31:59,625 --> 00:32:01,125 And so we haven't been--it's not like we've been together 892 00:32:01,250 --> 00:32:02,833 for three years and all of a sudden, I'm like, 893 00:32:02,917 --> 00:32:05,167 this is what I don't like about your personality 894 00:32:05,250 --> 00:32:08,583 or this isn't what, you know, isn't aligning with mine. 895 00:32:08,708 --> 00:32:11,875 I think I'm just processing through 896 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,167 what it really is that's there. - OK. 897 00:32:14,250 --> 00:32:17,250 - And I'm learning about the things that aren't there, 898 00:32:17,375 --> 00:32:19,375 for me personally. - Understood. 899 00:32:19,542 --> 00:32:22,333 So, Airris, what do you think about the scene 900 00:32:22,500 --> 00:32:23,875 on tonight's episode? 901 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,750 - I think if you'd asked all the cast 902 00:32:26,875 --> 00:32:28,458 and probably most people who know Clint, 903 00:32:28,542 --> 00:32:30,292 they're gonna say-- all the things that she says 904 00:32:30,375 --> 00:32:31,750 she doesn't like, they're all gonna say, like, 905 00:32:31,875 --> 00:32:32,833 that's why I love Clint. 906 00:32:32,958 --> 00:32:34,333 Like, Clint is outgoing. 907 00:32:34,458 --> 00:32:36,333 He's the life of the party. He always turns up. 908 00:32:36,417 --> 00:32:38,542 He'll dance even though he can't dance. 909 00:32:38,667 --> 00:32:40,750 So, like, that's who he is. 910 00:32:40,875 --> 00:32:42,875 And in his mind, he's heard all of us say-- 911 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,208 he's probably been hearing that his whole life-- 912 00:32:44,333 --> 00:32:46,542 like, Clint, you're great because of A, B, and C. 913 00:32:46,667 --> 00:32:49,417 And then hearing Gina say, I don't like A, B, and C, 914 00:32:49,542 --> 00:32:52,125 like you said, coming from her, his wife, like, 915 00:32:52,250 --> 00:32:53,625 it hits different, you know. 916 00:32:53,708 --> 00:32:55,375 - Yeah, so have you guys ever-- 917 00:32:55,542 --> 00:32:57,292 have you ever witnessed Gina, like, 918 00:32:57,375 --> 00:32:59,292 cringing in the background, like, 919 00:32:59,375 --> 00:33:01,208 embarrassed about what's happening? 920 00:33:01,375 --> 00:33:02,750 - Not really, because Clint-- 921 00:33:02,875 --> 00:33:04,750 like, when he's in his zone, like, he... 922 00:33:04,875 --> 00:33:06,167 - You sees nothing but-- 923 00:33:06,250 --> 00:33:08,375 - I don't even know what Gina's noticed, 924 00:33:08,500 --> 00:33:10,208 but she's probably like, oh, my God. 925 00:33:10,333 --> 00:33:12,125 And the rest of us are like, go, Clint. 926 00:33:12,208 --> 00:33:13,125 Go, Clint. - Go, Clint. 927 00:33:13,208 --> 00:33:14,792 - She's like, no, Clint. No. 928 00:33:14,875 --> 00:33:16,042 [laughter] - Sit down, Clint. 929 00:33:16,167 --> 00:33:18,083 - Sit down, Clint. 930 00:33:18,208 --> 00:33:19,667 - Bring it back, Clint. 931 00:33:19,792 --> 00:33:21,583 Stop it, Clint. 932 00:33:21,708 --> 00:33:23,833 - So what is your take on this conversation, babe? 933 00:33:23,958 --> 00:33:26,000 - I mean, in all honesty, I don't think 934 00:33:26,083 --> 00:33:27,833 there's an easy fix for it. 935 00:33:27,958 --> 00:33:31,333 But what I would love is if-- 936 00:33:31,458 --> 00:33:33,333 and what you always love in any relationship-- 937 00:33:33,417 --> 00:33:37,333 if someone can embrace who the other person is. 938 00:33:37,458 --> 00:33:39,708 Realize that you're not gonna be able to change 939 00:33:39,833 --> 00:33:41,667 a grown, a very grown... 940 00:33:41,833 --> 00:33:42,917 - Very grown. 941 00:33:43,042 --> 00:33:44,667 - Person, you know, when it comes 942 00:33:44,750 --> 00:33:47,167 to who they are and how they are in a relationship. 943 00:33:47,333 --> 00:33:49,292 And, you know, I guess Decision Day 944 00:33:49,417 --> 00:33:52,625 is gonna be, for you, all about, 945 00:33:52,750 --> 00:33:55,333 can I love him where he's at? 946 00:33:55,458 --> 00:33:57,542 - Pow, pow. - Because Clint is Clint. 947 00:33:57,667 --> 00:34:00,000 - Absolutely. 948 00:34:00,083 --> 00:34:01,458 So what was the conversation like 949 00:34:01,583 --> 00:34:04,042 after Pastor Cal and Dr. Pepper left? 950 00:34:04,208 --> 00:34:06,583 - We definitely agreed with what they had to say, 951 00:34:06,708 --> 00:34:08,583 and we were like, maybe we just need, like, a set of things. 952 00:34:08,708 --> 00:34:11,167 Obviously, the experts are giving us this advice, 953 00:34:11,333 --> 00:34:12,500 so we should take it and run with it 954 00:34:12,625 --> 00:34:16,042 and try to figure out if this is gonna help us 955 00:34:16,208 --> 00:34:17,417 to connect a little more. - Right. 956 00:34:21,250 --> 00:34:22,667 We've been having some pretty serious conversations tonight, 957 00:34:22,750 --> 00:34:24,417 so we're gonna lighten things up a little bit 958 00:34:24,542 --> 00:34:26,625 and take a look at Jasmine and Airris' 959 00:34:26,750 --> 00:34:27,792 intimacy assignment. 960 00:34:27,917 --> 00:34:30,667 Take a look at this. 961 00:34:30,750 --> 00:34:32,875 ♪ ♪ 962 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,167 - Would you ever be, like, a dominatrix? 963 00:34:36,250 --> 00:34:38,833 - I don't think I'm opposed to it. 964 00:34:38,917 --> 00:34:41,083 - Like, if I was just like, slap me. 965 00:34:41,208 --> 00:34:42,625 - I don't think you want to be slapped. 966 00:34:42,750 --> 00:34:44,167 - I mean, I don't know. 967 00:34:44,292 --> 00:34:46,333 I might get slapped and I might be like, ooh. 968 00:34:46,417 --> 00:34:49,792 Let's just try it real quick, on the count of three. 969 00:34:49,875 --> 00:34:50,792 - Oh, my goodness. - Come on. 970 00:34:50,917 --> 00:34:52,000 - OK, count me down. 971 00:34:52,167 --> 00:34:54,000 - OK. One, two-- 972 00:34:54,167 --> 00:34:55,708 Harder. Come on. 973 00:34:55,833 --> 00:34:57,667 ♪ ♪ 974 00:34:57,750 --> 00:34:59,000 Is that all you got? Damn. 975 00:34:59,125 --> 00:35:00,667 Trying to turn me on. 976 00:35:00,750 --> 00:35:02,333 - I don't know if you want... - Slap me harder. 977 00:35:02,417 --> 00:35:04,833 - A hard slap. - Slap me harder. 978 00:35:04,917 --> 00:35:07,542 Come on. One, two, three. 979 00:35:07,667 --> 00:35:09,000 ♪ ♪ 980 00:35:09,125 --> 00:35:10,458 OK, we got something. We got something. 981 00:35:10,583 --> 00:35:12,000 - Was that better? - We working with something. 982 00:35:12,125 --> 00:35:14,250 [laughter] 983 00:35:14,375 --> 00:35:17,000 - Slap me. Come on. 984 00:35:17,125 --> 00:35:19,833 [laughter] 985 00:35:19,917 --> 00:35:22,083 - Listen, don't ask me, 986 00:35:22,208 --> 00:35:24,750 'cause we gonna go. - Oh, we gonna go. 987 00:35:24,875 --> 00:35:25,750 - Hiyah! 988 00:35:25,875 --> 00:35:28,167 [laughter] 989 00:35:28,250 --> 00:35:30,625 - She said, hiyah. 990 00:35:30,708 --> 00:35:33,000 - So please, we have so much to talk about. 991 00:35:33,125 --> 00:35:34,542 [laughter] 992 00:35:34,708 --> 00:35:39,000 Do you like the submissive-dominatrix dynamics? 993 00:35:39,125 --> 00:35:40,708 - I've never experienced it. - OK. 994 00:35:40,875 --> 00:35:43,292 - You know, I was watching the show "Billions," 995 00:35:43,417 --> 00:35:44,875 and there's a character on there. 996 00:35:45,042 --> 00:35:46,167 He's kind of into that type of stuff. 997 00:35:46,292 --> 00:35:49,167 I was like, hmm, let me ask Jasmine 998 00:35:49,292 --> 00:35:51,375 if she ever done that or would she be down to try it. 999 00:35:51,500 --> 00:35:53,667 I'm just--at this point, I'm searching, right? 1000 00:35:53,750 --> 00:35:55,833 We're trying to spark something, so... 1001 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,333 - So hit me. - That's effort. 1002 00:35:57,458 --> 00:35:58,667 - Yeah, so hit me, you know? - That's effort. 1003 00:35:58,792 --> 00:36:00,000 - So hit me. 1004 00:36:00,125 --> 00:36:01,708 - So what was that experience like? 1005 00:36:01,833 --> 00:36:03,500 Is that something you'd like to incorporate in the bedroom? 1006 00:36:03,625 --> 00:36:05,708 - Yeah, I'm def-- I would get slapped again. 1007 00:36:05,833 --> 00:36:08,250 I'm definitely--it sparked a little bit of interest, yeah. 1008 00:36:08,375 --> 00:36:10,250 - OK, OK. So question. 1009 00:36:10,375 --> 00:36:12,917 Is there any physical attraction 1010 00:36:13,042 --> 00:36:15,500 after the pole dancing class, and then-- 1011 00:36:15,625 --> 00:36:16,833 - Well, can we talk about that? Can we talk about that? 1012 00:36:16,958 --> 00:36:18,042 - Yeah. - 'Cause we haven't talked 1013 00:36:18,208 --> 00:36:19,333 with you about the pole dancing. 1014 00:36:19,417 --> 00:36:20,917 - Yeah. - No, she looked very sexy 1015 00:36:21,042 --> 00:36:23,250 and very comfortable. 1016 00:36:23,375 --> 00:36:25,167 And the thing I liked the most about it 1017 00:36:25,292 --> 00:36:26,833 was, like, her confidence. 1018 00:36:26,958 --> 00:36:29,500 - So, Brad, what do you think about these intimacy exercises? 1019 00:36:29,625 --> 00:36:31,542 - Intimacy exercises are everything, 1020 00:36:31,667 --> 00:36:32,792 you know, especially if it's something 1021 00:36:32,875 --> 00:36:34,125 you've never done before, 1022 00:36:34,208 --> 00:36:35,875 because that one experience 1023 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,125 gets tied to that one person, 1024 00:36:38,208 --> 00:36:40,167 and that's powerful. - Yeah. 1025 00:36:40,333 --> 00:36:42,208 So, Dr. Pepper and Pastor Cal, 1026 00:36:42,333 --> 00:36:43,333 y'all can send a box to our house. 1027 00:36:43,458 --> 00:36:44,875 You have the address. 1028 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,792 We will-- [laughter] 1029 00:36:47,917 --> 00:36:49,417 - I'm not getting handcuffed behind the back, though. 1030 00:36:49,542 --> 00:36:51,000 [laughter] 1031 00:36:51,125 --> 00:36:53,333 - So, Gina, so you and Clint, 1032 00:36:53,458 --> 00:36:54,792 y'all got the same basket, correct? 1033 00:36:54,875 --> 00:36:56,958 - We did get the-- did not look like this. 1034 00:36:57,083 --> 00:36:58,917 - OK, I was about ask, did you... 1035 00:36:59,042 --> 00:37:00,875 - We did-- - Do any slapping? 1036 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,000 Did you find the gooch? I mean, I'm just asking. 1037 00:37:03,083 --> 00:37:04,167 - This whole time, I was thinking, 1038 00:37:04,292 --> 00:37:06,250 Clint would 100% want me to slap him. 1039 00:37:06,375 --> 00:37:08,833 - OK. [laughter] 1040 00:37:08,917 --> 00:37:10,958 - There would be nothing off the table for Clint. 1041 00:37:11,083 --> 00:37:12,833 - OK. - You should do it. 1042 00:37:12,958 --> 00:37:15,083 - Should I go slap him? - Just go slap Clint. 1043 00:37:15,208 --> 00:37:17,042 - All of the frustration, hiyah! 1044 00:37:17,208 --> 00:37:18,500 You know, he may like it. 1045 00:37:18,667 --> 00:37:20,000 You may like it too. You never know. 1046 00:37:20,083 --> 00:37:22,292 - Yeah, you never know. [laughter] 1047 00:37:22,417 --> 00:37:26,250 - So, Brad, do you have any final pieces of advice 1048 00:37:26,375 --> 00:37:29,417 for Gina and Airris before Decision Day? 1049 00:37:29,542 --> 00:37:32,375 - I'll say for Airris, Jasmine is really smitten with you. 1050 00:37:32,500 --> 00:37:33,917 I don't know if she'll admit that, 1051 00:37:34,042 --> 00:37:38,292 but when you do certain things, you could just see her, 1052 00:37:38,375 --> 00:37:40,833 you know, kind of-- - She blushes. 1053 00:37:40,917 --> 00:37:43,958 And when you're brown-skinned, it's hard to blush. 1054 00:37:44,042 --> 00:37:45,833 She does it. 1055 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,833 - Yeah, so it's like, you're doing something right 1056 00:37:48,917 --> 00:37:52,167 because there's something there now that I didn't see before. 1057 00:37:52,250 --> 00:37:53,833 I would say the sooner you can make 1058 00:37:53,958 --> 00:37:55,458 that decision, the better, 1059 00:37:55,583 --> 00:37:58,417 because subconsciously, we make different decisions 1060 00:37:58,542 --> 00:38:00,208 once we've, you know, made-- 1061 00:38:00,375 --> 00:38:01,792 - We show up differently. 1062 00:38:01,875 --> 00:38:03,000 - Yeah, we show up differently when we've made that-- 1063 00:38:03,167 --> 00:38:04,375 when we've made that final decision. 1064 00:38:04,542 --> 00:38:08,000 And for you, you know, a lot of times, 1065 00:38:08,125 --> 00:38:10,375 people end up in serious relationships 1066 00:38:10,500 --> 00:38:11,875 and they're not friends. 1067 00:38:12,042 --> 00:38:15,042 You know, that's a hard, big hurdle to cross sometimes. 1068 00:38:15,167 --> 00:38:17,250 And you guys have crossed that one, 1069 00:38:17,375 --> 00:38:20,500 so it's like, there is something there, 1070 00:38:20,583 --> 00:38:24,667 and you may need to scratch that itch just to make sure, 1071 00:38:24,750 --> 00:38:26,833 you know, there's not something worthwhile right there. 1072 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,375 Because you got a friend, 1073 00:38:28,542 --> 00:38:30,292 and you got somebody who, like, you know who he is, 1074 00:38:30,375 --> 00:38:31,500 and you guys got matched up for a reason. 1075 00:38:31,583 --> 00:38:33,458 - Yeah. - All right. 1076 00:38:33,583 --> 00:38:35,042 Well, that covers tonight's amazing episode. 1077 00:38:35,208 --> 00:38:36,875 But before we go, here's a preview 1078 00:38:37,042 --> 00:38:39,833 of what happens next week on a brand-new episode 1079 00:38:39,958 --> 00:38:41,542 of "Married at First Sight." 1080 00:38:41,667 --> 00:38:43,333 ♪ ♪ 1081 00:38:43,458 --> 00:38:44,875 - ♪ Let's come together ♪ 1082 00:38:45,042 --> 00:38:47,667 - Next time on "Married at First Sight"... 1083 00:38:47,792 --> 00:38:49,875 - He was, like, saying, I think things could change 1084 00:38:50,042 --> 00:38:51,375 after Decision Day. 1085 00:38:51,500 --> 00:38:54,083 Like, it'll get better. We can grow our intimacy. 1086 00:38:54,208 --> 00:38:56,208 - Like, if we can't make that decision yet, 1087 00:38:56,333 --> 00:38:57,500 is it because we don't 1088 00:38:57,625 --> 00:38:58,958 feel like we're ready to live together? 1089 00:38:59,042 --> 00:39:00,667 ♪ ♪ 1090 00:39:00,792 --> 00:39:03,167 - So can you see yourself maybe single again? 1091 00:39:03,292 --> 00:39:04,542 ♪ ♪ 1092 00:39:04,667 --> 00:39:06,500 - I feel like things will get better, 1093 00:39:06,667 --> 00:39:08,750 but, you know, it's up to you to believe me. 1094 00:39:08,875 --> 00:39:11,000 - I'm still unsure, yes. 1095 00:39:11,125 --> 00:39:13,333 ♪ ♪ 1096 00:39:13,500 --> 00:39:15,458 - Hearing things. [laughter] 1097 00:39:15,542 --> 00:39:16,875 What is going on? 1098 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,208 - I slid in Gina's DMs. 1099 00:39:18,375 --> 00:39:20,125 - I was caught completely off guard, 1100 00:39:20,250 --> 00:39:22,000 just blindsided. 1101 00:39:22,125 --> 00:39:23,792 - Whoo-hoo. 1102 00:39:23,917 --> 00:39:25,792 Listen, I may be at home watching this, 1103 00:39:25,917 --> 00:39:28,833 but I'm going to enjoy next week's episode. 1104 00:39:28,917 --> 00:39:31,250 Gina, Airris, and Brad, thank you so much 1105 00:39:31,375 --> 00:39:33,333 for joining me at the "Afterparty" this season. 1106 00:39:33,458 --> 00:39:34,958 Well, I'm signing off for the remainder of the season, 1107 00:39:35,083 --> 00:39:37,167 but don't worry, because I'm leaving the "Afterparty" 1108 00:39:37,292 --> 00:39:39,375 in very good hands with Jemele Hill, 1109 00:39:39,500 --> 00:39:43,500 who will be guest hosting while I am away having a baby. 1110 00:39:43,625 --> 00:39:45,833 Tune in to the "Afterparty" three weeks from now 1111 00:39:45,917 --> 00:39:48,500 for an in-depth look at what the cast 1112 00:39:48,625 --> 00:39:50,667 has been up to after Decision Day. 1113 00:39:50,833 --> 00:39:53,625 I'm Keshia Knight Pulliam, and to everyone at home, 1114 00:39:53,750 --> 00:39:56,125 this has been the "Married At First Sight Afterparty." 1115 00:39:56,208 --> 00:39:57,833 We'll see you next time. 1116 00:39:57,917 --> 00:39:59,500 - ♪ Pull up, pull up, pull up, pull up ♪ 1117 00:39:59,625 --> 00:40:01,042 ♪ 'Cause life should be a party ♪