1 00:00:02,333 --> 00:00:03,542 - ♪ We've got each other, and that's a fact ♪ 2 00:00:03,625 --> 00:00:04,667 - What's up? 3 00:00:04,750 --> 00:00:06,458 - ♪ We'll stick together 4 00:00:06,542 --> 00:00:08,208 ♪ We've made a pact 5 00:00:08,208 --> 00:00:10,250 - Ten weeks ago, the experts matched 6 00:00:10,333 --> 00:00:13,792 five couples to be married at first sight. 7 00:00:13,875 --> 00:00:17,292 One bride decided not to go through with the marriage. 8 00:00:19,208 --> 00:00:21,667 - Another couple cut their journey short... 9 00:00:21,708 --> 00:00:25,583 - I want to follow through with wanting a divorce. 10 00:00:25,667 --> 00:00:27,500 - And asked for a divorce. 11 00:00:27,583 --> 00:00:29,208 - May I? - Yes. 12 00:00:29,292 --> 00:00:31,458 - But Michael's journey continued on 13 00:00:31,542 --> 00:00:34,500 with a new bride and a second chance at love. 14 00:00:34,542 --> 00:00:36,750 ♪ 15 00:00:36,833 --> 00:00:39,833 But for the remaining couples who married two months ago, 16 00:00:39,917 --> 00:00:43,250 the fateful day is finally here, 17 00:00:43,375 --> 00:00:46,042 to remain married or choose a divorce. 18 00:00:46,125 --> 00:00:47,458 [intense music] 19 00:00:47,542 --> 00:00:50,750 Today's decision will forever change 20 00:00:50,833 --> 00:00:54,250 the course of their lives, for better or for worse. 21 00:00:54,333 --> 00:00:56,250 - She just, like, doesn't trust me 22 00:00:56,333 --> 00:00:58,250 on camera or off camera anymore. 23 00:00:58,333 --> 00:01:01,875 - I really need to, like, take time for myself. 24 00:01:01,958 --> 00:01:04,667 - I'm gonna say it plainly. I [bleep] up the process. 25 00:01:04,708 --> 00:01:05,833 - There have just been times 26 00:01:05,917 --> 00:01:07,667 where you have tried to silence me. 27 00:01:07,750 --> 00:01:09,000 - I was trying to protect you. 28 00:01:09,042 --> 00:01:10,667 I did everything. 29 00:01:10,708 --> 00:01:12,375 - That's just not true. 30 00:01:12,500 --> 00:01:14,625 - To show you that I care, I wanted to be there. 31 00:01:14,708 --> 00:01:19,167 - I was extremely appreciative of what I would call love. 32 00:01:19,292 --> 00:01:20,625 - He also threatened me the other day 33 00:01:20,708 --> 00:01:22,042 and said he had enough to ruin my life 34 00:01:22,125 --> 00:01:23,667 on TV after this all came out. 35 00:01:23,792 --> 00:01:25,500 - You told me you wanted to go to war with me. 36 00:01:25,583 --> 00:01:26,750 So I was just-- - I did not say that. 37 00:01:26,875 --> 00:01:28,042 - OK. 38 00:01:28,125 --> 00:01:29,208 - I do care for her. 39 00:01:29,208 --> 00:01:31,375 - I don't feel centered... 40 00:01:31,458 --> 00:01:33,833 [choking up] To be able to, like, tell. 41 00:01:33,875 --> 00:01:37,667 ♪ 42 00:01:37,708 --> 00:01:42,667 - The time has come for you to decide. 43 00:01:42,750 --> 00:01:45,500 - Do you want to stay married? 44 00:01:45,583 --> 00:01:48,000 - Or do you want to get a divorce? 45 00:01:48,042 --> 00:01:50,708 ♪ 46 00:01:50,708 --> 00:01:52,042 [upbeat music] 47 00:01:52,125 --> 00:01:53,500 - ♪ It's all or nothing 48 00:01:53,542 --> 00:01:56,042 - This is "Married at First Sight." 49 00:01:56,125 --> 00:01:57,792 - ♪ There's no other way 50 00:01:57,875 --> 00:01:59,667 ♪ 51 00:01:59,708 --> 00:02:02,000 ♪ It's all or nothing 52 00:02:02,083 --> 00:02:04,833 [dramatic music] 53 00:02:04,917 --> 00:02:08,375 ♪ 54 00:02:08,458 --> 00:02:10,833 - It is the morning of Decision Day. 55 00:02:10,875 --> 00:02:14,833 And I'm feeling a little anxious, a little nervous. 56 00:02:14,958 --> 00:02:17,333 - Today is Decision Day. 57 00:02:17,375 --> 00:02:19,833 - I haven't really gotten, like, a whole lot of sleep. 58 00:02:19,917 --> 00:02:21,083 It's been hard. 59 00:02:21,083 --> 00:02:22,625 - Since this experience has been 60 00:02:22,708 --> 00:02:25,458 such a roller coaster for most of our couples, 61 00:02:25,542 --> 00:02:28,667 hopefully a night alone has given each individual 62 00:02:28,750 --> 00:02:31,333 an opportunity to reflect and help them 63 00:02:31,458 --> 00:02:33,833 with the clarity they need for their big decision, 64 00:02:33,917 --> 00:02:36,542 because today our couples will have to decide 65 00:02:36,625 --> 00:02:39,833 whether they want to continue a life married 66 00:02:39,875 --> 00:02:41,958 or get a divorce. 67 00:02:42,042 --> 00:02:44,000 - ♪ Everybody has a dream 68 00:02:44,083 --> 00:02:46,625 ♪ Something they want to have ♪ 69 00:02:46,708 --> 00:02:49,000 ♪ Some would give up everything ♪ 70 00:02:49,083 --> 00:02:50,500 ♪ 'Cause they want it that bad ♪ 71 00:02:50,542 --> 00:02:53,500 - I'm about to get dressed. 72 00:02:53,542 --> 00:02:56,000 Austin and I had a pretty emotional conversation. 73 00:02:56,042 --> 00:02:58,792 And then he left the apartment. 74 00:02:58,875 --> 00:03:00,833 And then I haven't really spoken to him since. 75 00:03:00,917 --> 00:03:03,292 [somber pop music] 76 00:03:03,375 --> 00:03:07,458 I have never felt so much guilt and disappointment 77 00:03:07,542 --> 00:03:11,625 and confusion and sadness 78 00:03:11,708 --> 00:03:14,792 about thinking what this is gonna look like for me. 79 00:03:14,875 --> 00:03:18,500 - This decision has been flip-flopping a lot. 80 00:03:18,583 --> 00:03:22,792 And I think Becca has, too. 81 00:03:22,875 --> 00:03:26,333 But this time apart 82 00:03:26,417 --> 00:03:29,042 I think has been needed for both of us. 83 00:03:29,125 --> 00:03:32,375 I think, like, it helped me to, like, 84 00:03:32,375 --> 00:03:36,958 just kind of get back to base level of thinking. 85 00:03:37,042 --> 00:03:43,250 And, like, I think there's always room to course-correct. 86 00:03:43,333 --> 00:03:47,042 - ♪ Go back to when it was easy ♪ 87 00:03:47,125 --> 00:03:49,458 - With any marriage, you know, there are ups and downs. 88 00:03:49,542 --> 00:03:51,917 You know, we had a lot of ups. 89 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:56,292 And it's unfortunate that, like, a lot of our issues 90 00:03:56,375 --> 00:03:58,875 kind of came right before Decision Day. 91 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,583 I don't really know where things will end up. 92 00:04:01,708 --> 00:04:04,792 - I feel like I have fought for this marriage. 93 00:04:04,875 --> 00:04:07,667 But I think where it stands right now, 94 00:04:07,750 --> 00:04:11,250 I don't know how to fight for the marriage anymore. 95 00:04:11,333 --> 00:04:13,417 Like, I don't know how to separate the reality 96 00:04:13,500 --> 00:04:17,500 of Austin's intentions, and if he genuinely cares about me 97 00:04:17,542 --> 00:04:20,500 as much as I love and care about him. 98 00:04:20,542 --> 00:04:23,833 - There is definitely a part of me that wants to say yes. 99 00:04:23,917 --> 00:04:27,333 But I don't know if that's what she wants. 100 00:04:27,375 --> 00:04:30,833 - ♪ To when it was easy 101 00:04:30,917 --> 00:04:33,542 ♪ 102 00:04:33,625 --> 00:04:37,667 - ♪ Let's go chasing stars this evening ♪ 103 00:04:37,792 --> 00:04:41,958 ♪ Eyes wide shut, in fast cars dreaming ♪ 104 00:04:42,042 --> 00:04:44,333 ♪ 105 00:04:44,417 --> 00:04:47,542 ♪ Thought this could be paradise ♪ 106 00:04:47,667 --> 00:04:50,292 - Well, it's Decision Day. - I know. 107 00:04:50,375 --> 00:04:52,167 - And your first Decision Day. - It is. 108 00:04:52,250 --> 00:04:54,542 I am excited for this. - We're excited, too. 109 00:04:54,625 --> 00:04:56,000 It's good to have you. - It's good to be here. 110 00:04:56,083 --> 00:04:57,292 - Yeah. 111 00:04:57,375 --> 00:04:58,833 I mean, it's been a rocky season. 112 00:04:58,875 --> 00:04:59,833 - Yeah. - We have seen-- 113 00:04:59,875 --> 00:05:01,042 I think we've seen things this season 114 00:05:01,167 --> 00:05:04,333 that we've never in my time here-- 115 00:05:04,417 --> 00:05:05,375 and I'm sure you could say the same. 116 00:05:05,500 --> 00:05:06,833 - Oh, absolutely. 117 00:05:06,958 --> 00:05:08,250 It's unprecedented. 118 00:05:08,333 --> 00:05:09,375 A lot to talk about. 119 00:05:09,500 --> 00:05:11,042 Let's start. - Yeah. 120 00:05:11,042 --> 00:05:13,250 Becca and Austin. - Yeah, I mean, 121 00:05:13,333 --> 00:05:15,167 they started out as our golden couple. 122 00:05:15,208 --> 00:05:16,000 - They really did. - They were both 123 00:05:16,125 --> 00:05:17,708 attracted to each other. 124 00:05:17,792 --> 00:05:19,500 And it seemed like it was gonna be seamless 125 00:05:19,583 --> 00:05:20,667 for a while, no? - Yeah. 126 00:05:20,667 --> 00:05:22,792 - Yeah. - I mean, yeah, look, 127 00:05:22,875 --> 00:05:26,208 they've had some ups and downs, some miscommunication. 128 00:05:26,292 --> 00:05:30,167 I believe that they have so much more in common 129 00:05:30,250 --> 00:05:32,375 than they don't have, you know, in common. 130 00:05:32,458 --> 00:05:34,917 - And I think that, you know-- 131 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,542 love Austin to death. 132 00:05:36,625 --> 00:05:40,417 And I think that there's some, like, 133 00:05:40,542 --> 00:05:42,875 maybe lack of emotional awareness that he has, 134 00:05:42,958 --> 00:05:44,500 that maybe she does, right, 135 00:05:44,583 --> 00:05:46,167 that she's really in tune with her emotions. 136 00:05:46,208 --> 00:05:48,083 - Yeah. - And I think that he has 137 00:05:48,167 --> 00:05:51,500 a difficult time expressing himself to her or his needs. 138 00:05:51,625 --> 00:05:53,167 And then that's coming off to her as like, 139 00:05:53,250 --> 00:05:55,542 oh, well, he's not being authentic or he doesn't care. 140 00:05:55,667 --> 00:05:58,375 So I think we need to be an interpreter for them. 141 00:05:58,500 --> 00:05:59,875 You know, there's chemistry there. 142 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,167 - There is. 143 00:06:01,250 --> 00:06:02,167 - You can't just make that up, right? 144 00:06:02,333 --> 00:06:03,500 Like, I think this is beyond them... 145 00:06:03,583 --> 00:06:04,750 - I wish we could. - Just trying to--oh, OK. 146 00:06:04,833 --> 00:06:06,625 Wait. [laughs] 147 00:06:06,708 --> 00:06:08,208 But, you know, I think this is beyond them just trying to, 148 00:06:08,292 --> 00:06:09,667 like, make it to Decision Day. 149 00:06:09,708 --> 00:06:12,667 I think that they truly have feelings for one another. 150 00:06:12,708 --> 00:06:14,500 I think they have a lot of shared interests. 151 00:06:14,542 --> 00:06:15,708 - Absolutely - Right? 152 00:06:15,792 --> 00:06:16,875 I think that there's a great level 153 00:06:16,958 --> 00:06:19,917 of respect that they have for one another. 154 00:06:20,042 --> 00:06:21,250 - I believe that, too. 155 00:06:21,333 --> 00:06:22,500 I believe there's something valuable there. 156 00:06:22,542 --> 00:06:24,208 - Yeah. - Well, let's go see 157 00:06:24,292 --> 00:06:26,167 if they'll fight for the marriage. 158 00:06:26,250 --> 00:06:28,083 - Yes. - Yeah, I hope so. 159 00:06:28,208 --> 00:06:31,000 [soft music] 160 00:06:31,042 --> 00:06:33,625 ♪ 161 00:06:33,708 --> 00:06:36,000 - The first time I saw Austin, 162 00:06:36,042 --> 00:06:40,250 I felt a deep sense of relief and excitement, all at once. 163 00:06:40,333 --> 00:06:42,708 - ♪ Give it all that I have 164 00:06:42,833 --> 00:06:43,875 [crowd cheers] 165 00:06:43,958 --> 00:06:46,125 ♪ No holding me back 166 00:06:46,208 --> 00:06:47,667 - She's a nerd. 167 00:06:47,792 --> 00:06:48,958 - He said the word. - And I'm weird. 168 00:06:49,042 --> 00:06:51,292 So it works. [laughs] 169 00:06:51,375 --> 00:06:52,875 ♪ 170 00:06:53,042 --> 00:06:56,333 - Austin's smile is enough to not only light up the room, 171 00:06:56,417 --> 00:06:58,292 but the whole dang house. 172 00:06:58,375 --> 00:07:00,917 - Pick flowers on the beach. - [laughs] 173 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,625 - I love liking you. 174 00:07:03,708 --> 00:07:06,625 - ♪ 'Cause I'm a believer 175 00:07:06,750 --> 00:07:09,667 - I appreciate that Austin lives in the moment 176 00:07:09,708 --> 00:07:12,083 because it has helped 177 00:07:12,167 --> 00:07:15,375 the struggles in our marriage become less intimidating. 178 00:07:15,458 --> 00:07:18,333 Like, I just want you to want me. 179 00:07:18,417 --> 00:07:21,500 And that hasn't really happened yet. 180 00:07:21,583 --> 00:07:22,917 [moody pop music] 181 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,792 - ♪ Love me strong 182 00:07:24,792 --> 00:07:27,833 - It has been difficult to feel connected to Austin 183 00:07:27,917 --> 00:07:30,500 due to our different paces in intimacy. 184 00:07:30,625 --> 00:07:33,667 It doesn't feel good to, like, have to beg to be wanted. 185 00:07:33,750 --> 00:07:36,667 - ♪ Learn to play along 186 00:07:36,750 --> 00:07:42,000 ♪ It's more than I can take from you ♪ 187 00:07:42,042 --> 00:07:43,792 - I just start questioning 188 00:07:43,875 --> 00:07:46,458 if what I'm asking for is too much. 189 00:07:46,542 --> 00:07:49,625 I feel like my authentic self with Austin. 190 00:07:49,708 --> 00:07:51,958 But this process has caused anxiety 191 00:07:52,042 --> 00:07:54,667 around how and what I communicate to him. 192 00:07:54,792 --> 00:07:58,000 [choked up] It often feels like when the cameras go away, 193 00:07:58,042 --> 00:08:00,625 like, he's not asking, like, for that depth 194 00:08:00,708 --> 00:08:03,750 or that intimacy or, like, that connection in the same way 195 00:08:03,750 --> 00:08:06,042 as, like, to-- when we're on camera. 196 00:08:06,125 --> 00:08:08,708 ♪ 197 00:08:08,708 --> 00:08:12,125 And I am starting to feel worried 198 00:08:12,208 --> 00:08:14,917 that Austin was more concerned about how we were coming across 199 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,750 on camera versus how we were actually doing. 200 00:08:17,875 --> 00:08:19,167 ♪ 201 00:08:19,250 --> 00:08:22,958 - ♪ Lessons in love 202 00:08:23,042 --> 00:08:25,917 [upbeat music] 203 00:08:26,042 --> 00:08:28,333 ♪ 204 00:08:28,417 --> 00:08:30,000 - The first time I saw Becca, you know, 205 00:08:30,083 --> 00:08:31,833 I was just, like, overcome with emotion. 206 00:08:31,917 --> 00:08:33,833 - ♪ Ooh-wee, I'm fooling myself ♪ 207 00:08:33,917 --> 00:08:36,458 [crowd cheering] - What's up? 208 00:08:36,542 --> 00:08:38,042 - I'm usually the crier. - I know. 209 00:08:38,125 --> 00:08:39,625 - This is nice. - I, like, never cry. 210 00:08:39,708 --> 00:08:41,042 Not only was she beautiful, 211 00:08:41,125 --> 00:08:43,500 with her big, blue eyes and pink hair... 212 00:08:43,583 --> 00:08:44,958 - We're going in. 213 00:08:45,042 --> 00:08:47,167 - But the energy she carried lit up the room. 214 00:08:47,250 --> 00:08:48,458 - ♪ I'm on top 215 00:08:48,542 --> 00:08:49,708 ♪ I'm on top of the world 216 00:08:49,792 --> 00:08:51,125 ♪ 217 00:08:51,208 --> 00:08:53,667 - Get in here. - [chuckles] 218 00:08:53,708 --> 00:08:55,708 - She was a ball of sunshine, and it floored me. 219 00:08:55,792 --> 00:08:58,250 I will always show up for you 220 00:08:58,333 --> 00:09:01,208 and do my best to be there for you. 221 00:09:01,333 --> 00:09:02,875 Aw. 222 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,917 Our initial chemistry was so easy and natural. 223 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:05,958 Yes. 224 00:09:06,042 --> 00:09:07,625 ♪ 225 00:09:07,708 --> 00:09:09,833 - ♪ I'm on top of the world 226 00:09:09,917 --> 00:09:12,833 - But Becca struggles with my religious beliefs, 227 00:09:12,875 --> 00:09:15,667 my slower intimacy speed, and my directness. 228 00:09:15,750 --> 00:09:16,917 And this is beginning to affect 229 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:18,500 all aspects of our marriage. 230 00:09:18,625 --> 00:09:20,000 - What's frustrating is that, like, 231 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:21,917 all of these fights and all of these things 232 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,625 are, like, days and nights of rejection. 233 00:09:25,708 --> 00:09:27,833 And then it, like, leads into these moments 234 00:09:27,917 --> 00:09:29,875 where, like, I don't know what to do anymore. 235 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,000 - Becca still needs to work on trust 236 00:09:32,042 --> 00:09:33,625 because I think that this process 237 00:09:33,708 --> 00:09:35,292 has made her question everything I do. 238 00:09:45,708 --> 00:09:47,542 I'm feeling more and more disconnected. 239 00:09:47,625 --> 00:09:50,000 And I really care for Becca, 240 00:09:50,042 --> 00:09:53,000 but I'm unsure if we can overcome those hurdles. 241 00:09:53,083 --> 00:09:55,833 I still need time to, like, work through certain things 242 00:09:55,875 --> 00:09:58,250 that could, like, really tear us apart. 243 00:09:58,333 --> 00:09:59,667 - It's really hard. 244 00:09:59,708 --> 00:10:02,792 [dramatic music] 245 00:10:02,875 --> 00:10:09,708 ♪ 246 00:10:09,792 --> 00:10:11,125 - Good to see you guys again. 247 00:10:11,208 --> 00:10:13,500 - It's good to see you again, absolutely. 248 00:10:13,625 --> 00:10:14,708 - Austin. 249 00:10:14,833 --> 00:10:16,542 - Hey. - What's up? 250 00:10:16,625 --> 00:10:17,542 - Hey, bud. How you doing, man? 251 00:10:17,625 --> 00:10:18,500 Great to see you. 252 00:10:18,542 --> 00:10:19,833 - You, too. 253 00:10:19,875 --> 00:10:21,333 ♪ 254 00:10:21,458 --> 00:10:23,333 I'm actually gonna take this off. 255 00:10:23,417 --> 00:10:25,167 - Here she is. - Hello. 256 00:10:25,250 --> 00:10:28,458 ♪ 257 00:10:28,542 --> 00:10:29,667 Hi. - How you doing? 258 00:10:29,750 --> 00:10:31,292 - Good. How are you? 259 00:10:31,375 --> 00:10:33,083 - Good. 260 00:10:33,167 --> 00:10:34,500 Love the dress. 261 00:10:34,583 --> 00:10:36,042 - Thanks. - Looks great. 262 00:10:36,042 --> 00:10:37,333 - You look cute, too. - Thank you. 263 00:10:37,417 --> 00:10:39,417 ♪ 264 00:10:39,500 --> 00:10:41,292 - [sighs] 265 00:10:41,375 --> 00:10:44,292 - You know, we saw you last, it was a very emotional evening. 266 00:10:44,375 --> 00:10:47,000 And we've been worried about you 267 00:10:47,083 --> 00:10:51,208 and hoping that things have gotten progressively better. 268 00:10:51,292 --> 00:10:53,500 But I gather there's been a lot of drama 269 00:10:53,542 --> 00:10:54,792 in the last couple days. 270 00:10:54,875 --> 00:10:57,167 So want to fill us in a little bit? 271 00:10:57,250 --> 00:11:01,000 - Yeah, a lot's happened in the past week-- 272 00:11:01,083 --> 00:11:03,417 unresolved things and things that will, 273 00:11:03,500 --> 00:11:05,708 like, take time to resolve. 274 00:11:05,833 --> 00:11:07,583 I think it just kind of got away from us. 275 00:11:07,708 --> 00:11:09,583 I think, like, we-- 276 00:11:09,667 --> 00:11:11,583 like, ultimately, like, our communication 277 00:11:11,708 --> 00:11:13,542 and conflict resolution just, like, broke down. 278 00:11:13,625 --> 00:11:16,083 And we weren't able to, 279 00:11:16,167 --> 00:11:19,875 like, manage our issues in, like, a healthy way. 280 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:24,667 And, like, it made us question the relationship, 281 00:11:24,750 --> 00:11:26,417 like, the future of our relationship. 282 00:11:26,542 --> 00:11:29,083 And, like--like, I mean, we just don't know 283 00:11:29,167 --> 00:11:32,667 if it is, like, possible to manage those things. 284 00:11:32,750 --> 00:11:39,292 - So for me, I think I wasn't really being authentic 285 00:11:39,375 --> 00:11:42,083 with how I would feel at times. 286 00:11:42,167 --> 00:11:44,958 Sometimes, by the request of Austin just asking that 287 00:11:45,042 --> 00:11:48,000 things don't be brought up, it impacted me a lot 288 00:11:48,083 --> 00:11:50,958 because it felt like I was living two different lives. 289 00:11:51,042 --> 00:11:52,000 - Yeah. 290 00:11:52,083 --> 00:11:56,000 - And I finally spoke up about it. 291 00:11:56,042 --> 00:11:59,833 It was pretty much after our meeting 292 00:11:59,917 --> 00:12:02,167 with Dr. Pepper and Pastor Cal, 293 00:12:02,292 --> 00:12:06,167 where I finally started to open up about things 294 00:12:06,250 --> 00:12:08,708 that I hadn't talked about on camera yet. 295 00:12:08,792 --> 00:12:12,958 But after that conversation, Austin was worried 296 00:12:13,042 --> 00:12:16,375 what I said was going to paint him in a very bad light. 297 00:12:16,500 --> 00:12:19,500 He was worried about the optics from that conversation 298 00:12:19,583 --> 00:12:23,333 versus how I was feeling, 299 00:12:23,417 --> 00:12:27,667 that, like, I actually felt... 300 00:12:27,750 --> 00:12:30,625 silenced or, like, misunderstood. 301 00:12:30,708 --> 00:12:33,167 Um... 302 00:12:33,250 --> 00:12:38,042 it made me start to see our relationship differently, 303 00:12:38,167 --> 00:12:42,083 like, just made me question what was sincere 304 00:12:42,167 --> 00:12:46,083 and what wasn't and what is really him and what isn't. 305 00:12:46,208 --> 00:12:49,125 - I think it's natural to worry about those things 306 00:12:49,208 --> 00:12:50,708 when you're, like, being filmed. 307 00:12:50,833 --> 00:12:52,833 But for me, they're not, like, 308 00:12:52,917 --> 00:12:54,500 the only thing I'm worried about. 309 00:12:54,583 --> 00:12:59,917 And I'm trying to express that to her that, like, this-- 310 00:13:00,042 --> 00:13:04,792 that I do care for her more than that. 311 00:13:04,875 --> 00:13:08,083 I think she doesn't trust-- 312 00:13:08,208 --> 00:13:10,083 she just, like, doesn't trust me 313 00:13:10,208 --> 00:13:12,500 on camera or off camera anymore. 314 00:13:12,583 --> 00:13:16,167 - Like, I can't and don't trust 315 00:13:16,250 --> 00:13:19,875 that in this moment it's not about optics, 316 00:13:19,958 --> 00:13:21,125 that it hasn't been about optics 317 00:13:21,250 --> 00:13:23,000 because we haven't really had a lot of those 318 00:13:23,083 --> 00:13:26,958 private, connective, deepening moments for me. 319 00:13:30,875 --> 00:13:32,667 [dramatic music] 320 00:13:32,792 --> 00:13:35,167 - When the optics are done... - Yeah. 321 00:13:35,250 --> 00:13:38,125 - That's when you can find those moments. 322 00:13:38,208 --> 00:13:40,875 - I--and maybe this means that, like, 323 00:13:40,875 --> 00:13:43,042 I wasn't ready for this process, but, like, 324 00:13:43,125 --> 00:13:46,167 I don't feel centered 325 00:13:46,208 --> 00:13:50,792 to be able to, like, tell-- 326 00:13:50,875 --> 00:13:52,917 to even start to decipher that. 327 00:13:53,042 --> 00:13:57,458 Like, I feel like I need to reground myself, regroup, 328 00:13:57,542 --> 00:14:01,042 like, re-trust my intuition 329 00:14:01,167 --> 00:14:03,917 because everything just feels shot at this point. 330 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,292 - Well, and I wonder about that 331 00:14:06,375 --> 00:14:07,917 because I feel like every time I saw you, I was like, 332 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,250 you all look so great together; you seem so connected; 333 00:14:10,333 --> 00:14:12,750 you're very affectionate with one another. 334 00:14:12,833 --> 00:14:15,333 And do you feel like that was a lie? 335 00:14:15,375 --> 00:14:17,625 - I think-- 336 00:14:17,708 --> 00:14:22,292 I think on camera, Austin is a lot more affectionate 337 00:14:22,375 --> 00:14:26,583 and complimentary and gentle with me. 338 00:14:26,667 --> 00:14:27,958 And I don't think it's something 339 00:14:28,042 --> 00:14:29,333 that he does on purpose. 340 00:14:29,375 --> 00:14:30,917 I don't think it's, like, the cameras leave 341 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:31,958 and a light switch goes off and he's like, 342 00:14:32,042 --> 00:14:34,333 great, I'm off work for today. 343 00:14:34,375 --> 00:14:38,833 I think it's that he has to be more aware of himself 344 00:14:38,917 --> 00:14:41,500 when the cameras are around, or he feels that way. 345 00:14:41,625 --> 00:14:45,667 - I think, like, her framework on this whole situation 346 00:14:45,750 --> 00:14:48,958 has been skewed, even like, you know, 347 00:14:49,042 --> 00:14:50,667 the things that you have, like, given-- 348 00:14:50,792 --> 00:14:52,542 like, the activities you have told us to do. 349 00:14:52,667 --> 00:14:53,708 She doesn't trust that it's coming 350 00:14:53,833 --> 00:14:55,042 from, like, a genuine spot. 351 00:14:55,125 --> 00:14:57,000 And I've said many, many times, like, 352 00:14:57,083 --> 00:14:59,875 I don't do things that I don't want to. 353 00:14:59,958 --> 00:15:02,417 - I don't know. It's just--it's hard 354 00:15:02,500 --> 00:15:04,250 to separate what is real and what isn't. 355 00:15:04,333 --> 00:15:06,208 And again, when the conversation of optics 356 00:15:06,292 --> 00:15:09,417 got brought up, it only, like-- 357 00:15:09,500 --> 00:15:10,917 - Amplified? - Yeah. 358 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:12,125 - You know, we're having this conversation 359 00:15:12,208 --> 00:15:14,000 about, like, authenticity. 360 00:15:14,083 --> 00:15:15,333 And I can't help but notice this-- 361 00:15:15,458 --> 00:15:17,042 like, how close y'all are sitting to each other. 362 00:15:17,125 --> 00:15:18,083 And, you know, Austin's had his arm 363 00:15:18,167 --> 00:15:19,125 around you the entire time. 364 00:15:19,208 --> 00:15:20,583 He's rubbing your back, right? 365 00:15:20,667 --> 00:15:24,167 Like, do you feel that this is genuine in this moment? 366 00:15:24,250 --> 00:15:28,000 - I definitely really, really want it to be 367 00:15:28,125 --> 00:15:30,125 because I have felt that. 368 00:15:30,208 --> 00:15:35,042 And that's where my mind just starts to ruminate 369 00:15:35,125 --> 00:15:37,167 and replay incidences in my head. 370 00:15:37,250 --> 00:15:40,292 And it's not a healthy place for me to go to, 371 00:15:40,375 --> 00:15:44,542 which is why I really need to, like, take time for myself. 372 00:15:44,625 --> 00:15:45,958 I want to believe that. 373 00:15:46,042 --> 00:15:49,000 And I see it in times where we are good. 374 00:15:49,083 --> 00:15:50,500 I think it's, like, seeing that in times 375 00:15:50,583 --> 00:15:52,792 where we also maybe aren't good, or maybe I'm not-- 376 00:15:52,875 --> 00:15:53,792 I don't know. - That's hard. 377 00:15:53,875 --> 00:15:54,750 - It is hard. - It is hard. 378 00:15:54,833 --> 00:15:55,750 - Yeah. - It's hard for me 379 00:15:55,833 --> 00:15:57,500 to do, too, yeah. - Well, right. 380 00:15:57,500 --> 00:15:59,542 And like we were saying before, like, this is a really, 381 00:15:59,625 --> 00:16:03,083 like, anxiety-producing, you know, eight-week situation, 382 00:16:03,167 --> 00:16:05,833 especially if, you know, you have anxiety to begin with. 383 00:16:05,917 --> 00:16:07,542 And so when you're saying, like, oh, it's-- 384 00:16:07,667 --> 00:16:09,875 I'm in my head, and I'm kind of questioning this, 385 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:11,833 may I challenge you to tell your anxiety 386 00:16:11,875 --> 00:16:12,917 to shut up right now? - Oh, yeah. 387 00:16:13,042 --> 00:16:14,042 Yeah, no, def--I mean-- 388 00:16:14,167 --> 00:16:15,292 - Yeah. - Tell her. 389 00:16:15,375 --> 00:16:16,750 - Yeah, you know what I mean? 390 00:16:16,833 --> 00:16:18,042 - I tell her all the time to shut up. 391 00:16:18,125 --> 00:16:19,292 - So, like, tell her right now, right? 392 00:16:19,375 --> 00:16:21,167 And, like, what do you have to lose 393 00:16:21,292 --> 00:16:26,167 by leaning into believing that this is genuine right now? 394 00:16:26,250 --> 00:16:28,708 - Yeah, I think I do see it, and I do trust it. 395 00:16:28,833 --> 00:16:31,500 And I know that it's a hard place for Austin to be in 396 00:16:31,542 --> 00:16:34,333 because if he is acting out of a place of, 397 00:16:34,375 --> 00:16:36,583 you know, genuine feeling and authenticity, like, 398 00:16:36,667 --> 00:16:39,500 how hard would it be to sit there and not be believed? 399 00:16:39,500 --> 00:16:42,792 And, like, I--I'm sorry that that's not where I'm at. 400 00:16:42,875 --> 00:16:44,125 But I want to get there. 401 00:16:44,208 --> 00:16:45,417 And, like, that's what I'm trying to do. 402 00:16:45,417 --> 00:16:47,083 - Yeah. 403 00:16:47,167 --> 00:16:49,583 - I think there's a lot more answers 404 00:16:49,667 --> 00:16:52,875 that you can't know unless you continue outside this process. 405 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,000 - And, you know-- and I know there's gonna be 406 00:16:55,083 --> 00:16:58,333 a lot of trust that's-- that you're having to build. 407 00:16:58,417 --> 00:17:00,375 And the only thing that really can build trust 408 00:17:00,500 --> 00:17:05,417 is commitment and consistency and time 409 00:17:05,500 --> 00:17:08,042 because you've got to show each other 410 00:17:08,125 --> 00:17:10,750 that this thing that you believe in right now, 411 00:17:10,833 --> 00:17:13,458 that it's valuable, and it's gonna take some time. 412 00:17:13,542 --> 00:17:16,667 But I believe firmly that you guys have what it takes, 413 00:17:16,750 --> 00:17:18,333 you know, to make this work. 414 00:17:18,417 --> 00:17:21,125 ♪ 415 00:17:21,208 --> 00:17:25,958 - So the time has now come 416 00:17:26,042 --> 00:17:28,708 where we have to make a decision. 417 00:17:28,792 --> 00:17:32,417 Do you want to stay married 418 00:17:32,500 --> 00:17:33,625 or get a divorce? 419 00:17:33,708 --> 00:17:36,500 ♪ 420 00:17:36,667 --> 00:17:42,208 - I want to say no to where this marriage has been. 421 00:17:42,292 --> 00:17:46,000 But I want to say yes to where it could be. 422 00:17:46,042 --> 00:17:48,500 - So am I hearing then that your answer is yes? 423 00:17:48,583 --> 00:17:50,958 ♪ 424 00:17:51,042 --> 00:17:52,167 - Um... 425 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,125 yes. 426 00:17:57,125 --> 00:17:58,583 - Yeah? - Yes. 427 00:17:58,583 --> 00:18:00,417 [chuckles] - Aww. 428 00:18:00,500 --> 00:18:01,583 [upbeat music] 429 00:18:01,667 --> 00:18:03,292 - Austin? 430 00:18:03,375 --> 00:18:07,250 - I'm excited to say, I want to stay married. 431 00:18:07,375 --> 00:18:10,375 - Well, we totally support this effort. 432 00:18:10,458 --> 00:18:13,667 - And if I may quote my pastor, it works if you work it. 433 00:18:13,750 --> 00:18:15,125 And so part of the working it-- 434 00:18:15,208 --> 00:18:16,292 - Was that me? - No. 435 00:18:16,375 --> 00:18:18,333 [laughter] - Oh, OK. 436 00:18:18,375 --> 00:18:20,292 - That means, I want y'all to be 437 00:18:20,375 --> 00:18:22,083 brutally honest with each other. 438 00:18:22,167 --> 00:18:24,375 Be real. Like, no more of this hiding stuff, right? 439 00:18:24,542 --> 00:18:25,667 You don't have to worry about the optics. 440 00:18:25,792 --> 00:18:28,542 The only way you're going to get your needs met 441 00:18:28,625 --> 00:18:31,875 is if you open your mouth and be honest with one another. 442 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,000 And be honest with yourselves. - Mm-hmm. 443 00:18:34,083 --> 00:18:36,917 I think today's decision represents, hopefully, 444 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,792 a much needed cleanse for us. 445 00:18:40,875 --> 00:18:42,458 - Thank you. 446 00:18:42,458 --> 00:18:45,375 - I need to be with Austin 447 00:18:45,458 --> 00:18:47,583 without the cameras and without production 448 00:18:47,708 --> 00:18:53,083 and just rebuilding what I hope we can have. 449 00:18:53,167 --> 00:18:54,250 - Here's to marriage. - Thank you. 450 00:18:54,333 --> 00:18:55,167 - Cheers. - And all that it requires. 451 00:18:55,250 --> 00:18:56,833 - Here's to yes. 452 00:18:56,917 --> 00:19:01,083 ♪ 453 00:19:01,083 --> 00:19:04,000 [slow pop music] 454 00:19:04,042 --> 00:19:09,833 ♪ 455 00:19:09,917 --> 00:19:13,625 - I cannot believe it, but Decision Day is finally here. 456 00:19:13,708 --> 00:19:16,833 - You know, last night I slept pretty OK. 457 00:19:16,875 --> 00:19:19,000 You know, feeling a little nervous for today. 458 00:19:19,083 --> 00:19:20,667 Not sure how it's gonna go. 459 00:19:20,750 --> 00:19:25,667 - I am very on edge, since I don't know 460 00:19:25,708 --> 00:19:28,958 exactly what Brennan's gonna say or do. 461 00:19:29,083 --> 00:19:31,667 But today is not just important for us, 462 00:19:31,750 --> 00:19:34,417 but it is really important to me that I get out 463 00:19:34,500 --> 00:19:37,333 everything that I haven't been able to say. 464 00:19:37,375 --> 00:19:39,500 - The only thing I'm nervous about is if, you know, 465 00:19:39,625 --> 00:19:42,167 she comes into the meeting with, 466 00:19:42,250 --> 00:19:44,083 you know, hostility or any aggression. 467 00:19:44,083 --> 00:19:46,333 You know, I'm in a very good head space, 468 00:19:46,375 --> 00:19:48,083 good spirits, and just want to, you know, 469 00:19:48,167 --> 00:19:50,333 move on peacefully and respectfully. 470 00:19:50,500 --> 00:19:52,750 Say her piece, and I say mine, and it's just, 471 00:19:52,833 --> 00:19:56,292 you know, a reflection and a reconciliation. 472 00:19:56,375 --> 00:19:58,917 - Very, very, very anxious. 473 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,792 Honestly, probably gonna be one of, like, the hardest days 474 00:20:01,875 --> 00:20:04,083 maybe ever that I've had to really go through. 475 00:20:04,167 --> 00:20:07,500 [dramatic music] 476 00:20:07,583 --> 00:20:13,500 ♪ 477 00:20:13,583 --> 00:20:16,250 - Well, we've got a serious illness 478 00:20:16,250 --> 00:20:17,167 to deal with. - Oof. 479 00:20:17,292 --> 00:20:18,208 - I mean--well, not illness, 480 00:20:18,333 --> 00:20:20,125 accident. - A trauma, yeah. 481 00:20:20,208 --> 00:20:22,333 - Really traumatic accident. Oh, my gosh. 482 00:20:22,417 --> 00:20:23,875 - Well, accidents like this, you know, 483 00:20:23,958 --> 00:20:27,333 traumatic situations can either draw you close... 484 00:20:27,375 --> 00:20:29,875 - Mm-hmm. - Or tear you apart, you know? 485 00:20:29,958 --> 00:20:32,583 - Yeah, yeah. - And my hope was 486 00:20:32,708 --> 00:20:35,917 that it would have gone to make them closer. 487 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,792 - Well, there was some evidence of that for a while. 488 00:20:37,875 --> 00:20:40,083 I remember talking to both of them, right? 489 00:20:40,167 --> 00:20:43,000 And she was just extolling what-- 490 00:20:43,042 --> 00:20:44,042 - Oh, yeah. - You know, the support 491 00:20:44,125 --> 00:20:45,333 he gave her and... - Absolutely. 492 00:20:45,375 --> 00:20:46,958 - How well taken care of she was. 493 00:20:47,042 --> 00:20:48,125 - Absolutely. - Yeah. 494 00:20:48,208 --> 00:20:49,458 - Yeah, I mean, I thought, whoa, 495 00:20:49,458 --> 00:20:51,500 maybe here is a turning point. 496 00:20:51,583 --> 00:20:55,708 - But somewhere along the line, it fizzled. 497 00:20:55,875 --> 00:20:58,083 They've sort of spiraled out of control here. 498 00:20:58,167 --> 00:21:00,000 - Yeah, it was short-lived. 499 00:21:00,042 --> 00:21:01,667 And I'm wondering what happened. 500 00:21:01,708 --> 00:21:04,333 - Sometimes it's hard to figure out. 501 00:21:04,375 --> 00:21:06,167 You know, as much as we try, 502 00:21:06,292 --> 00:21:08,958 we go through so many vetting techniques, 503 00:21:09,042 --> 00:21:11,500 months, months of vetting, 504 00:21:11,583 --> 00:21:15,208 and still, you just can't figure out sometimes 505 00:21:15,292 --> 00:21:17,250 what it is that makes someone 506 00:21:17,333 --> 00:21:19,458 not attracted to the other person. 507 00:21:19,542 --> 00:21:23,250 And I think that there was a certain type 508 00:21:23,333 --> 00:21:25,125 that he had in mind. 509 00:21:25,208 --> 00:21:27,375 And she just didn't fit into that. 510 00:21:27,458 --> 00:21:29,542 And I don't know if he could recover 511 00:21:29,667 --> 00:21:32,667 from not having those expectations met. 512 00:21:32,708 --> 00:21:35,542 - They never went in deep like some couples do. 513 00:21:35,625 --> 00:21:38,208 OK, let's just put it all out there. 514 00:21:38,292 --> 00:21:39,375 - Right. - Look at the ugly stuff 515 00:21:39,500 --> 00:21:40,708 and see what we can do with it. 516 00:21:40,833 --> 00:21:42,208 - Yeah. - Nah. 517 00:21:42,292 --> 00:21:43,208 I think she would have been willing for that. 518 00:21:43,292 --> 00:21:44,292 I don't think he was. 519 00:21:44,375 --> 00:21:46,083 - So I think that our goal here 520 00:21:46,167 --> 00:21:48,833 is to try to have some civility, 521 00:21:48,917 --> 00:21:53,583 you know, to make sure that they learn and grow 522 00:21:53,667 --> 00:21:56,833 from these experiences and that they are better people, 523 00:21:56,917 --> 00:21:59,875 you know, moving into whatever situation they move into next. 524 00:21:59,958 --> 00:22:02,000 - Yeah. 525 00:22:02,042 --> 00:22:05,500 - ♪ I will show 'em what I'm made of ♪ 526 00:22:05,542 --> 00:22:09,167 ♪ I feel it, it's in my blood, in my blood ♪ 527 00:22:09,208 --> 00:22:12,167 - When I first saw Brennan, I thought, he's attractive. 528 00:22:12,208 --> 00:22:13,417 Like, he's, like, my type. 529 00:22:13,500 --> 00:22:14,667 - I'm your type? 530 00:22:14,750 --> 00:22:16,500 - Well, like, looks-wise. - Yeah. 531 00:22:16,542 --> 00:22:18,167 - We'll see if you pass the personality test. 532 00:22:18,250 --> 00:22:19,500 - That's fair. 533 00:22:19,583 --> 00:22:21,917 Like, I want to just build, like, our legacy, 534 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,000 build something that, like, we're very proud of. 535 00:22:24,083 --> 00:22:27,417 - ♪ I will show 'em what I'm made of ♪ 536 00:22:27,500 --> 00:22:29,833 ♪ I feel it, it's in my blood, in my blood ♪ 537 00:22:29,875 --> 00:22:31,292 - Dang! 538 00:22:31,375 --> 00:22:33,583 This is totally rad. - [laughs] 539 00:22:33,667 --> 00:22:36,917 - ♪ My last stand, to show 'em who I am ♪ 540 00:22:36,917 --> 00:22:38,667 - I just need you to tell me if you're physically attracted 541 00:22:38,750 --> 00:22:39,792 to me or not. 542 00:22:39,875 --> 00:22:41,458 - I just can't. 543 00:22:41,542 --> 00:22:44,667 - While I know Brennan says he did protect me, 544 00:22:44,792 --> 00:22:48,125 I wish Brennan spent more time thinking about better ways 545 00:22:48,208 --> 00:22:50,458 to improve our progress forward. 546 00:22:50,542 --> 00:22:53,542 [dramatic pop music] 547 00:22:53,625 --> 00:22:55,083 ♪ 548 00:22:58,125 --> 00:23:02,583 - But Brennan was at my side during and after 549 00:23:02,667 --> 00:23:07,208 one of the most traumatic experiences I've had. 550 00:23:07,208 --> 00:23:08,500 - The road to recovery. 551 00:23:08,542 --> 00:23:10,625 - Stay tuned. - Stay tuned. 552 00:23:10,708 --> 00:23:12,333 - I thought Brennan had the potential 553 00:23:12,458 --> 00:23:13,792 to be a good partner. 554 00:23:13,875 --> 00:23:16,667 But I think Brennan put a block up 555 00:23:16,750 --> 00:23:20,042 at the very beginning, which allowed nothing 556 00:23:20,042 --> 00:23:22,250 to be able to move forward. 557 00:23:22,333 --> 00:23:25,500 - If that's how you feel after I saved your [bleep] life-- 558 00:23:25,583 --> 00:23:27,458 - Are you [bleep] kidding me? 559 00:23:27,542 --> 00:23:30,667 - It's unfathomable to me that you can talk like this. 560 00:23:30,750 --> 00:23:32,500 - If you think in any [bleep] world 561 00:23:32,583 --> 00:23:34,958 that this is gonna come on me, you are wrong. 562 00:23:35,042 --> 00:23:39,500 ♪ 563 00:23:39,583 --> 00:23:43,250 - ♪ Yeah, come on, girl 564 00:23:43,375 --> 00:23:44,667 ♪ Don't be afraid 565 00:23:44,708 --> 00:23:46,000 - When I first saw Emily, 566 00:23:46,042 --> 00:23:47,958 I thought her energy was radiating, 567 00:23:48,042 --> 00:23:50,000 and I thought we'd have a lot of fun together. 568 00:23:50,083 --> 00:23:54,333 - ♪ If I could be, if I could be your man, oh ♪ 569 00:23:54,417 --> 00:23:56,375 - Cheers. - Ugh. 570 00:23:56,458 --> 00:23:58,708 - ♪ Perfect for me 571 00:23:58,792 --> 00:24:00,792 - Emily has a lot of admirable qualities, 572 00:24:00,875 --> 00:24:02,917 including, you know, being nice, being sweet, 573 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,875 caring, outgoing. 574 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,792 You're really starting to earn my trust, you know, 575 00:24:06,875 --> 00:24:09,000 which is not easy for me to say. 576 00:24:09,083 --> 00:24:10,792 There's never a dull moment with Emily, 577 00:24:10,875 --> 00:24:12,500 and she always finds a way to be the life of the party. 578 00:24:12,542 --> 00:24:13,667 [glass shatters] Whoa! 579 00:24:13,792 --> 00:24:15,917 [people yelling] - My bad. 580 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,500 [dramatic music] 581 00:24:17,625 --> 00:24:18,958 - One of the things that Emily and I don't 582 00:24:19,042 --> 00:24:21,542 see eye to eye on is our communication. 583 00:24:21,542 --> 00:24:23,542 The negativity, for me, is, like, a huge thing. 584 00:24:23,625 --> 00:24:25,167 One--that's one of, like-- one of-- 585 00:24:25,250 --> 00:24:28,667 one of my deal-breakers was a positive, positive person. 586 00:24:28,708 --> 00:24:32,167 - What do you [bleep] mean? There is no negativity. 587 00:24:32,167 --> 00:24:33,500 - OK. 588 00:24:33,625 --> 00:24:35,500 - [sobbing] 589 00:24:35,625 --> 00:24:38,417 - I came into this not thinking 590 00:24:38,500 --> 00:24:40,125 divorce was even an option for me. 591 00:24:40,208 --> 00:24:44,417 But now, I'm wondering if it's the only option for me. 592 00:24:44,542 --> 00:24:49,667 ♪ 593 00:24:53,583 --> 00:24:56,667 [dramatic music] 594 00:24:56,750 --> 00:25:03,583 ♪ 595 00:25:15,375 --> 00:25:16,958 - Hello. - Hi, guys. 596 00:25:17,042 --> 00:25:18,167 - Good. Come on in. 597 00:25:18,208 --> 00:25:19,500 - How are you? 598 00:25:19,667 --> 00:25:22,292 Good to see you. - Good to see you, too. 599 00:25:22,375 --> 00:25:23,375 - Hi. - Hi. 600 00:25:23,458 --> 00:25:24,625 - Oof. - Ooh, I'm so sorry. 601 00:25:24,708 --> 00:25:25,667 - Don't knock her out. - Are you OK? 602 00:25:25,708 --> 00:25:26,875 - [laughing] Yeah, I'm fine. - Sorry. 603 00:25:26,875 --> 00:25:28,667 - That's OK. - What's up, buddy? 604 00:25:28,708 --> 00:25:30,083 How you doing, man? - How you doing, man? 605 00:25:30,208 --> 00:25:31,833 Good to see you. 606 00:25:31,917 --> 00:25:36,917 ♪ 607 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,583 - Look at you. - I'm gonna hug all of you. 608 00:25:38,667 --> 00:25:39,625 Is that OK? - OK. 609 00:25:39,708 --> 00:25:42,375 - Yes. You look amazing. 610 00:25:42,458 --> 00:25:43,583 - That's right. - Hey there, beautiful. 611 00:25:43,667 --> 00:25:44,667 How are you? - Yes. 612 00:25:44,750 --> 00:25:46,500 - Good. How are you? 613 00:25:46,625 --> 00:25:49,833 [whispers] Hello. - Hey. 614 00:25:49,917 --> 00:25:53,667 - Honestly, we were so, as you know, worried. 615 00:25:53,708 --> 00:25:56,208 And it's just great to see you being you 616 00:25:56,292 --> 00:25:58,500 and I guess having healed or-- 617 00:25:58,667 --> 00:26:01,542 - Yeah. Like, visibly, yeah. 618 00:26:01,625 --> 00:26:03,042 I feel like just with what we're going through, 619 00:26:03,167 --> 00:26:05,667 it's kind of, like, a hard time to, like, fully recover. 620 00:26:05,750 --> 00:26:08,542 - Yeah. We know you're not in a good place right now. 621 00:26:08,625 --> 00:26:11,000 And what we want are happy marriages. 622 00:26:11,042 --> 00:26:13,625 But we'll take also personal growth, 623 00:26:13,708 --> 00:26:15,583 accountability, and feeling like 624 00:26:15,667 --> 00:26:18,417 we've left you better to have a great relationship 625 00:26:18,500 --> 00:26:21,792 with someone else if it couldn't be here. 626 00:26:21,875 --> 00:26:24,125 - Yeah, um, you know, 627 00:26:24,208 --> 00:26:27,333 I grew to be a lot more resilient than I thought. 628 00:26:27,375 --> 00:26:31,833 You know, before I would run at the slightest red flag. 629 00:26:31,917 --> 00:26:35,458 And, you know-- or slightest inconvenience, 630 00:26:35,542 --> 00:26:40,125 right, and never really giving it my all 631 00:26:40,125 --> 00:26:42,833 or giving it the full chance of the relationship. 632 00:26:42,875 --> 00:26:48,375 And I see now the value of-- of that. 633 00:26:48,500 --> 00:26:50,417 - While I think you say you haven't ran, 634 00:26:50,542 --> 00:26:52,417 everything you just said that you grew from 635 00:26:52,542 --> 00:26:55,500 is exactly what you did. 636 00:26:55,625 --> 00:26:58,292 And so I hope you can grow from noticing that 637 00:26:58,375 --> 00:27:00,542 and what you're telling yourself you want to hear 638 00:27:00,625 --> 00:27:03,500 because you ran in, I think, 639 00:27:03,583 --> 00:27:06,750 the hardest way you've ever ran before. 640 00:27:06,875 --> 00:27:08,458 - So when you were there-- 641 00:27:08,542 --> 00:27:11,042 when you needed someone the most, who was there for you? 642 00:27:11,125 --> 00:27:13,042 - And again, like, going and pulling my accident 643 00:27:13,125 --> 00:27:14,542 and saying you saved my life... - I'm not pulling anything. 644 00:27:14,625 --> 00:27:15,667 - And being there for me-- - You're saying that 645 00:27:15,708 --> 00:27:16,542 I ran from everything. It's like-- 646 00:27:16,625 --> 00:27:18,375 - You did. - I did not. 647 00:27:18,458 --> 00:27:20,583 I was with you every step. - You checked the boxes. 648 00:27:20,708 --> 00:27:22,417 That's not-- - I was-- 649 00:27:22,542 --> 00:27:23,333 - Brennan, do you see that you're being 650 00:27:23,375 --> 00:27:24,500 defensive in this moment? 651 00:27:24,583 --> 00:27:27,000 - Yeah, do you see the attack? 652 00:27:27,083 --> 00:27:29,833 - No, I don't see an attack. - OK. 653 00:27:29,875 --> 00:27:32,000 - Can you put into words why you're feeling attacked 654 00:27:32,042 --> 00:27:33,708 in this moment? 655 00:27:33,833 --> 00:27:36,042 - Because it's all the things that I didn't do. 656 00:27:36,125 --> 00:27:39,833 I really feel like I did everything, you know? 657 00:27:39,917 --> 00:27:41,625 - When you're saying you did everything, 658 00:27:41,708 --> 00:27:43,125 that's just not true, 659 00:27:43,208 --> 00:27:44,708 because there's homework that you were given-- 660 00:27:44,792 --> 00:27:45,875 I can at least speak for myself, 661 00:27:45,958 --> 00:27:47,500 I don't know about for the others-- 662 00:27:47,542 --> 00:27:49,042 that you just simply did not do. 663 00:27:49,125 --> 00:27:51,167 - Oh, I'm happy to take accountability 664 00:27:51,292 --> 00:27:55,292 if you feel like that exercise is what caused this whole-- 665 00:27:55,375 --> 00:27:57,417 - That's definitely not what I'm saying, the one exercise. 666 00:27:57,542 --> 00:28:01,208 I just feel like accountability in general has not been taken. 667 00:28:01,208 --> 00:28:03,875 And instead, you like to tell me that I need to take 668 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,667 accountability when I feel like I have done everything 669 00:28:08,708 --> 00:28:13,083 and even have ignored signs to see the best in you. 670 00:28:13,167 --> 00:28:17,375 But I think it was always on your terms. 671 00:28:17,500 --> 00:28:19,125 - So you deny that every time 672 00:28:19,250 --> 00:28:20,833 I asked you to come up with a solution, 673 00:28:20,917 --> 00:28:22,792 and you pinned it on me to come up with the solution, 674 00:28:22,875 --> 00:28:24,583 that that's what happened? 675 00:28:24,667 --> 00:28:28,167 And then we agreed on the solution together. 676 00:28:28,250 --> 00:28:29,833 - I mean, I don't think you necessarily-- 677 00:28:29,917 --> 00:28:32,000 - Just say yes or no. - No, it's not black and white. 678 00:28:32,083 --> 00:28:33,833 There have just been times where you have tried 679 00:28:33,875 --> 00:28:37,375 to silence me, tried to take control 680 00:28:37,458 --> 00:28:42,958 of the control-ables for you, for us, for me. 681 00:28:43,042 --> 00:28:46,875 And that is through telling me to delete diary cams 682 00:28:46,958 --> 00:28:48,833 and me feeling at times that I couldn't fully 683 00:28:48,917 --> 00:28:53,083 stick up for myself because of two reasons. 684 00:28:53,167 --> 00:28:56,917 One, I was trying to, like, fix whatever was already broken. 685 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,750 And two, the repercussions that you know happened 686 00:29:00,750 --> 00:29:03,458 after every single conversation 687 00:29:03,542 --> 00:29:07,958 if I was to say anything negative about you at all. 688 00:29:08,042 --> 00:29:11,583 And you know that's what you focused on. 689 00:29:11,667 --> 00:29:13,917 - You know, I know we've had our exchanges. 690 00:29:14,042 --> 00:29:16,958 And in those arguments, you acted out of character; 691 00:29:17,042 --> 00:29:18,667 I acted out of character. 692 00:29:18,708 --> 00:29:22,125 But we just didn't click in that regard. 693 00:29:22,208 --> 00:29:28,000 And, like, it's just constant negativity and all the time. 694 00:29:28,083 --> 00:29:30,292 And then hearing you criticize our friends 695 00:29:30,375 --> 00:29:32,875 over their vows and all these things, 696 00:29:32,958 --> 00:29:35,458 it's just like a culmination of what I saw. 697 00:29:35,542 --> 00:29:37,042 - That was probably the most hurtful thing you said 698 00:29:37,125 --> 00:29:40,000 because I am the most positive person. 699 00:29:40,125 --> 00:29:43,000 I believe I am like a light in the room, life of the party. 700 00:29:43,083 --> 00:29:46,667 And I think that you chose to never see the best qualities 701 00:29:46,708 --> 00:29:48,083 in me on purpose because I don't think 702 00:29:48,167 --> 00:29:50,917 you have them in yourself, and you took that out on me. 703 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,917 - I don't think it defines you. 704 00:29:53,042 --> 00:29:54,958 I just think from what I've seen 705 00:29:55,042 --> 00:29:58,375 and the effect it had on me, that's where it's come from, 706 00:29:58,500 --> 00:30:01,667 of where I just felt drained and pushed away 707 00:30:01,708 --> 00:30:03,875 and that I didn't have any effort left to give 708 00:30:03,958 --> 00:30:05,000 after a certain point. 709 00:30:05,125 --> 00:30:07,167 - To me, it's pretty fixable. 710 00:30:07,208 --> 00:30:11,917 And if I knew the severity of my negative vibes in settings, 711 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,792 I could have fixed that. 712 00:30:13,875 --> 00:30:15,542 But as much as you broke up with your exes 713 00:30:15,667 --> 00:30:16,958 for communication and mind-reading, 714 00:30:16,958 --> 00:30:18,250 that's what you're doing to me. 715 00:30:18,375 --> 00:30:19,750 How was I supposed to know that, 716 00:30:19,833 --> 00:30:21,000 when you're saying that's a red flag 717 00:30:21,083 --> 00:30:22,917 and we're right going into Decision Day? 718 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,333 - I was trying to protect you the whole time by saying-- 719 00:30:25,417 --> 00:30:26,833 - That's another thing. - No, it's, like--the words-- 720 00:30:26,958 --> 00:30:28,625 - Can you clarify what you feel like 721 00:30:28,708 --> 00:30:30,417 you were protecting her from? 722 00:30:30,500 --> 00:30:34,042 - The harsh words that could have had a impact on her 723 00:30:34,125 --> 00:30:37,667 in a way that was detrimental 724 00:30:37,708 --> 00:30:41,792 because I care a lot about her, and I wanted to be very mindful 725 00:30:41,875 --> 00:30:44,042 of how the words I was using would affect her. 726 00:30:44,125 --> 00:30:45,667 And I wanted to be constructive 727 00:30:45,750 --> 00:30:47,458 in a way that she could still grow from it. 728 00:30:47,542 --> 00:30:53,667 But to her point, my efforts weren't enough, and I-- 729 00:30:53,750 --> 00:30:54,917 - I think you keep going back to the effort. 730 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,083 - It is, though. - It's not-- 731 00:30:56,167 --> 00:30:58,208 - My intention and my effort was there. 732 00:30:58,292 --> 00:31:00,000 I was trying to protect you. And I didn't-- 733 00:31:00,125 --> 00:31:01,250 - I think-- - Looking back on it-- 734 00:31:01,375 --> 00:31:03,000 - You saying you protect me is effort. 735 00:31:03,042 --> 00:31:04,625 - Knowing--see-- - You have not protected me. 736 00:31:04,708 --> 00:31:07,000 - This is what I was trying to avoid the whole time. 737 00:31:07,042 --> 00:31:09,167 But now, knowing what the outcome would have been, 738 00:31:09,292 --> 00:31:11,292 regardless whether I tried to protect her or not, 739 00:31:11,375 --> 00:31:12,833 I shouldn't have. 740 00:31:12,917 --> 00:31:14,458 - How do you know what the outcome would have been? 741 00:31:14,542 --> 00:31:15,875 - No, that's what I'm saying. - I told you, don't protect me. 742 00:31:15,958 --> 00:31:17,167 - If I would have known the outcome, what would it be 743 00:31:17,208 --> 00:31:18,583 with me trying to protect you versus not, 744 00:31:18,667 --> 00:31:20,750 that it would still be the same that it is today, 745 00:31:20,833 --> 00:31:23,375 I would have not tried to protect you. 746 00:31:23,458 --> 00:31:25,208 - OK, but here's the deal. 747 00:31:25,292 --> 00:31:27,542 You're saying that you were trying to protect her, 748 00:31:27,625 --> 00:31:29,083 but I tell people all the time, 749 00:31:29,167 --> 00:31:30,292 marriage doesn't work; you work. 750 00:31:30,375 --> 00:31:32,375 That means I'm willing to be vulnerable. 751 00:31:32,458 --> 00:31:38,083 That means I'm willing to go against my preconceived ideas 752 00:31:38,167 --> 00:31:42,833 of what I think and be open to instruction, be malleable. 753 00:31:42,875 --> 00:31:45,792 It's what you did not do. 754 00:31:45,875 --> 00:31:47,500 One thing that's really important 755 00:31:47,542 --> 00:31:49,083 is personal accountability. 756 00:31:49,167 --> 00:31:51,542 - No, it's--like, I was trying to protect her 757 00:31:51,625 --> 00:31:53,583 and just use the words that I thought were constructive, 758 00:31:53,667 --> 00:31:56,833 yet respectful. 759 00:31:56,875 --> 00:32:00,250 I take accountability for that because that-- 760 00:32:00,333 --> 00:32:02,500 I mean, like, what--like, I-- 761 00:32:02,542 --> 00:32:05,333 - Look, I see-- 762 00:32:05,458 --> 00:32:11,375 and I'm being as respectful as possible-- 763 00:32:11,458 --> 00:32:13,667 I see BS. 764 00:32:13,708 --> 00:32:16,167 ♪ 765 00:32:16,250 --> 00:32:18,000 I'm sorry, I do. - Thank you. 766 00:32:18,083 --> 00:32:19,292 - I'm gonna be straight with you. 767 00:32:19,375 --> 00:32:20,333 I'm gonna be straight with you. 768 00:32:20,417 --> 00:32:22,833 I see complete BS. 769 00:32:22,917 --> 00:32:24,958 Is that OK to say? - It's real. 770 00:32:25,042 --> 00:32:26,958 - That I was trying to use less harsh words? 771 00:32:27,042 --> 00:32:28,500 - No, because here's-- let me explain. 772 00:32:28,625 --> 00:32:31,000 Here's what I see. 773 00:32:31,042 --> 00:32:35,083 Look, it was obvious in my first meeting with you guys, 774 00:32:35,208 --> 00:32:37,333 I could tell you were suppressing your emotions. 775 00:32:37,458 --> 00:32:40,208 I could tell you were placating. 776 00:32:40,292 --> 00:32:43,917 Is there anything about her that you were not attracted to? 777 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,792 - We're not doing that. 778 00:32:45,875 --> 00:32:47,958 - We're not doing that? 779 00:32:48,042 --> 00:32:50,625 But it was so early in the relationship-- 780 00:32:50,708 --> 00:32:54,208 from that first meeting, were you planning to stay married? 781 00:32:54,292 --> 00:32:58,125 - Yeah, I was-- I had no intention of leaving. 782 00:32:58,208 --> 00:33:00,042 - OK, so you were invested in this from day one? 783 00:33:00,125 --> 00:33:01,625 - Yeah, absolutely. 784 00:33:01,708 --> 00:33:03,083 - Do you believe that? 785 00:33:03,167 --> 00:33:04,875 - No, I believe actually it was after the honeymoon 786 00:33:04,958 --> 00:33:07,667 where he was not. 787 00:33:07,750 --> 00:33:12,542 - There's some serious crossing of wires here, man, 788 00:33:12,625 --> 00:33:14,333 because you're saying, "I was in this. 789 00:33:14,417 --> 00:33:16,125 "Look, I'm trying to protect you. 790 00:33:16,208 --> 00:33:17,833 I'm not--" and you're saying, 791 00:33:17,917 --> 00:33:20,542 "I never felt protected. I never felt loved." 792 00:33:20,625 --> 00:33:23,333 So what we're seeing here is a serious misfiring. 793 00:33:23,375 --> 00:33:27,000 - I don't think I've heard from you, Brennan, ownership 794 00:33:27,083 --> 00:33:31,333 to any sort of emotional disrespect toward Emily. 795 00:33:31,417 --> 00:33:33,875 And I want t-- I truly do want to give you 796 00:33:33,958 --> 00:33:35,917 the opportunity to redeem yourself. 797 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,167 - Like, I didn't realize what I was doing. 798 00:33:39,250 --> 00:33:42,042 But looking back, if it appeared that way, I am sorry. 799 00:33:42,042 --> 00:33:44,750 [somber music] 800 00:33:44,833 --> 00:33:45,833 - Do you know what you did though, 801 00:33:45,917 --> 00:33:47,875 that you were saying sorry to? 802 00:33:47,958 --> 00:33:49,625 - Um... 803 00:33:49,708 --> 00:33:54,250 ♪ 804 00:33:54,333 --> 00:33:56,875 - You want to tell him? 805 00:33:56,958 --> 00:34:00,083 - OK. I felt disrespected 806 00:34:00,208 --> 00:34:03,208 from the day I came over after the honeymoon 807 00:34:03,292 --> 00:34:06,167 because I knew in that setting that you friend-zoned me. 808 00:34:06,250 --> 00:34:08,250 You knew we were gonna get a divorce 809 00:34:08,333 --> 00:34:10,042 and that you were not gonna give this your all. 810 00:34:10,125 --> 00:34:12,375 And you didn't respect me enough as a person 811 00:34:12,458 --> 00:34:16,167 to allow that chance on behalf of me and us both. 812 00:34:16,208 --> 00:34:18,333 Also for how you treat 813 00:34:18,375 --> 00:34:20,708 and speak to me disrespectfully off camera. 814 00:34:20,792 --> 00:34:23,333 But what he's also said through this is, like, he pities me, 815 00:34:23,375 --> 00:34:26,167 that you don't want yourself to be the reason 816 00:34:26,208 --> 00:34:27,917 why I don't date ever again. 817 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,500 Just respecting me and, like, asking me to delete diary cams, 818 00:34:31,542 --> 00:34:33,833 and trying to control the narrative, 819 00:34:33,875 --> 00:34:37,167 whether you say it's for us, and at times it felt for you, 820 00:34:37,208 --> 00:34:38,667 that was disrespectful. 821 00:34:38,708 --> 00:34:42,167 ♪ 822 00:34:42,208 --> 00:34:44,000 - And I see that now. 823 00:34:44,083 --> 00:34:46,583 So I'm sorry that I tried to protect you. 824 00:34:46,667 --> 00:34:51,292 And I shouldn't have because you didn't-- 825 00:34:51,375 --> 00:34:53,250 ♪ 826 00:34:53,333 --> 00:34:56,500 I thought I was trying to do right by you 827 00:34:56,542 --> 00:34:59,208 and what was best for you, but in turn, it didn't. 828 00:34:59,292 --> 00:35:01,500 So I'm sorry about that. 829 00:35:01,583 --> 00:35:03,875 - Do you think that the things you would want to say 830 00:35:03,958 --> 00:35:05,833 would be devastating to her? 831 00:35:05,875 --> 00:35:08,250 - Yes. 832 00:35:08,333 --> 00:35:11,375 - I mean, he also threatened me the other day and said 833 00:35:11,500 --> 00:35:14,375 he had enough to ruin my life on TV after this all came out. 834 00:35:14,458 --> 00:35:16,125 So, like, no, I don't believe that. 835 00:35:16,208 --> 00:35:19,500 And again, I'm a strong person, and I've told him that 836 00:35:19,542 --> 00:35:22,667 nothing he can say can really hurt me at this point. 837 00:35:22,708 --> 00:35:27,000 That would actually be progress versus saying nothing at all. 838 00:35:27,083 --> 00:35:28,458 - You told me you wanted to go to war with me. 839 00:35:28,542 --> 00:35:30,083 So I was just-- - I did not say that. 840 00:35:30,167 --> 00:35:31,333 - OK. - Brennan, I want you to have 841 00:35:31,417 --> 00:35:32,375 the opportunity to respond to that 842 00:35:32,458 --> 00:35:34,250 because that's a strong allegation. 843 00:35:34,375 --> 00:35:37,167 She's saying that you said you have enough to ruin her on TV. 844 00:35:37,208 --> 00:35:39,292 - She told me she wanted to go to war with me. 845 00:35:39,375 --> 00:35:41,000 I was trying my hardest... - I did not say that. 846 00:35:41,042 --> 00:35:42,958 - To prevent any of this from happening. 847 00:35:43,042 --> 00:35:45,125 And maybe I said that. I don't know. 848 00:35:45,208 --> 00:35:49,042 But it was a very hostile exchange, so-- 849 00:35:49,125 --> 00:35:51,000 - But you made it hostile afterward. 850 00:35:51,042 --> 00:35:52,208 We talked about it-- - You told me 851 00:35:52,333 --> 00:35:54,083 everyone hates me; everyone's against me. 852 00:35:54,208 --> 00:35:55,417 - I did not say that. 853 00:35:55,500 --> 00:35:57,125 - Oh, my God. - When did I say that? 854 00:35:57,208 --> 00:35:58,375 It's on a FaceTime. - Emily, I really... 855 00:35:58,458 --> 00:36:00,417 - It's recorded. - Don't know what reality 856 00:36:00,500 --> 00:36:01,500 you're in. - I don't know what reality 857 00:36:01,542 --> 00:36:03,667 you're living in. That's the scary part. 858 00:36:03,667 --> 00:36:10,333 - Well, I think it's safe to say that there is-- 859 00:36:10,375 --> 00:36:15,375 that you guys are irretrievably broken. 860 00:36:15,375 --> 00:36:18,333 I'm not going to fight for you to stay married. 861 00:36:18,375 --> 00:36:23,375 - So I think the time has come to make your decisions 862 00:36:23,458 --> 00:36:25,458 about whether you want to stay married 863 00:36:25,583 --> 00:36:28,000 or you want to get a divorce. 864 00:36:28,083 --> 00:36:30,500 ♪ 865 00:36:30,583 --> 00:36:34,500 - I came into this knowing who I was and what I wanted. 866 00:36:34,625 --> 00:36:40,125 And I can't necessarily say the same case for you. 867 00:36:40,208 --> 00:36:43,292 Given that I know I deserve better than you 868 00:36:43,375 --> 00:36:47,167 and better than this, and both from a romantic relationship 869 00:36:47,250 --> 00:36:49,250 and a friendship standpoint, 870 00:36:49,333 --> 00:36:53,292 and most importantly, I deserve respect, 871 00:36:53,375 --> 00:36:57,083 which I don't think I received through this relationship, 872 00:36:57,167 --> 00:37:01,500 and what I know I will now need more than ever moving forward. 873 00:37:01,625 --> 00:37:06,375 And therefore, I would like a divorce. 874 00:37:06,458 --> 00:37:09,500 - Yeah, I've done my best 875 00:37:09,625 --> 00:37:12,625 through and through this entire relationship. 876 00:37:12,708 --> 00:37:16,958 And I am sorry if you ever felt like I tried to silence you. 877 00:37:17,042 --> 00:37:20,458 That was never my intention. 878 00:37:20,542 --> 00:37:23,708 But the reality is, we just don't click 879 00:37:23,833 --> 00:37:27,500 from a physical or emotional perspective. 880 00:37:27,583 --> 00:37:31,542 And, you know, it's not a blame thing. 881 00:37:31,667 --> 00:37:32,917 It's not you did anything wrong. 882 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,917 It's not I did anything wrong. 883 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:39,125 We tried, and it just didn't work. 884 00:37:39,208 --> 00:37:43,458 So with that, I would like to get a divorce. 885 00:37:43,542 --> 00:37:45,625 - [sighs] I want to offer you hope, 886 00:37:45,708 --> 00:37:49,167 because a failed marriage does not mean a failed person, OK? 887 00:37:49,292 --> 00:37:51,875 So I'm hoping that what you've learned, 888 00:37:51,958 --> 00:37:55,625 you, Emily, your accident, you know, your growth, 889 00:37:55,708 --> 00:37:58,250 your finding your voice, your speaking up 890 00:37:58,333 --> 00:38:00,625 and standing for yourself, and knowing who you are, 891 00:38:00,708 --> 00:38:04,208 going forward, you're gonna have so much more depth 892 00:38:04,333 --> 00:38:06,167 as you enter new relationships. 893 00:38:06,292 --> 00:38:07,625 And that--and I'm happy about that. 894 00:38:07,708 --> 00:38:10,542 And for you, Brennan, you know, the self-awareness, 895 00:38:10,542 --> 00:38:13,375 you know, the accountability, understanding, 896 00:38:13,500 --> 00:38:17,083 hey, look, you know, I need to maybe even look deeper, 897 00:38:17,167 --> 00:38:19,875 you know, in my next relationship. 898 00:38:19,958 --> 00:38:23,458 I'm really hoping that you all have learned that. 899 00:38:23,542 --> 00:38:28,333 And do not carry this baggage forward, OK? 900 00:38:28,375 --> 00:38:30,583 But with that being said, thank you guys so much. 901 00:38:30,667 --> 00:38:31,667 - Thank you. 902 00:38:31,750 --> 00:38:33,750 - And we wish you the absolute best. 903 00:38:33,875 --> 00:38:35,000 - We do. - Yeah, we do. 904 00:38:35,125 --> 00:38:36,000 - Appreciate it. - Thank you. 905 00:38:36,042 --> 00:38:37,917 - Thank you. - [sighs] 906 00:38:37,917 --> 00:38:39,083 - Ugh. 907 00:38:39,208 --> 00:38:40,417 - Man, that was a tough journey. 908 00:38:40,542 --> 00:38:41,583 It was tough. It was tough. 909 00:38:41,708 --> 00:38:43,625 It was tough. It was tough. 910 00:38:43,708 --> 00:38:45,000 You're gonna be all right. - Thank you. 911 00:38:45,042 --> 00:38:45,958 - You're gonna be all right. - I'm so proud of you. 912 00:38:46,042 --> 00:38:47,375 I'm so proud of you. 913 00:38:47,458 --> 00:38:49,208 - Thank you. 914 00:38:49,292 --> 00:38:51,333 - You're welcome. Take care. 915 00:38:51,458 --> 00:38:52,833 - All right, kiddo. - All right. 916 00:38:52,875 --> 00:38:54,792 - If you need any support on this, let me know. 917 00:38:54,875 --> 00:38:56,417 - Thank you. - [whispers] You OK, sweetie? 918 00:38:56,500 --> 00:38:58,000 - [sniffles] - Don't ever let anyone 919 00:38:58,083 --> 00:38:59,000 make you feel bad about yourself. 920 00:38:59,083 --> 00:39:00,208 - Mm-hmm. 921 00:39:00,292 --> 00:39:02,167 - OK? - Yeah. 922 00:39:02,208 --> 00:39:03,542 - Come here, come here. 923 00:39:03,667 --> 00:39:05,625 - I am very sad to be divorced. 924 00:39:05,750 --> 00:39:09,375 But I am also very relieved 925 00:39:09,458 --> 00:39:13,167 to start working through what this has done to me 926 00:39:13,208 --> 00:39:16,417 from both a positive and a negative lens. 927 00:39:16,500 --> 00:39:18,208 And I'm also ready to, like, refocus on myself 928 00:39:18,292 --> 00:39:20,667 because I haven't been able to work through 929 00:39:20,750 --> 00:39:23,167 a lot of stuff that came with this. 930 00:39:23,292 --> 00:39:24,875 - You are a phenomenal woman. 931 00:39:24,958 --> 00:39:26,792 And I want you to walk away knowing that. 932 00:39:26,875 --> 00:39:29,708 It's beaming from you, your character. 933 00:39:29,792 --> 00:39:31,167 So I wanted to leave you with that. 934 00:39:31,208 --> 00:39:32,333 - Thank you. 935 00:39:32,375 --> 00:39:33,833 So I'm really just actually excited 936 00:39:33,875 --> 00:39:37,708 to just go back to being Emily, party of one, 937 00:39:37,792 --> 00:39:42,667 and not stopping and, like, continuing to start therapy 938 00:39:42,708 --> 00:39:45,250 and work through this, and just continue to be me 939 00:39:45,333 --> 00:39:50,000 and learn as much as I can from this. 940 00:39:50,125 --> 00:39:51,333 ♪ 941 00:39:51,417 --> 00:39:54,167 - ♪ I'll be all right 942 00:39:54,250 --> 00:39:58,125 ♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh 943 00:39:58,208 --> 00:40:00,875 ♪ Yeah, I'll be all right 944 00:40:05,208 --> 00:40:07,708 [acoustic guitar music] 945 00:40:07,792 --> 00:40:10,417 ♪ 946 00:40:10,500 --> 00:40:13,958 - I think, like, we're gonna have, like, 947 00:40:14,042 --> 00:40:16,500 a lot to figure out in the next couple days. 948 00:40:16,625 --> 00:40:17,917 - Yeah. - It's OK. 949 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:18,833 It's good. 950 00:40:18,917 --> 00:40:20,333 - Yeah. 951 00:40:20,417 --> 00:40:21,833 And I think I just really, like, 952 00:40:21,958 --> 00:40:24,542 want to refocus on myself because I feel like 953 00:40:24,625 --> 00:40:26,333 I've lost myself in a lot of this. 954 00:40:26,333 --> 00:40:29,125 And I think-- 955 00:40:29,208 --> 00:40:30,500 - Yeah, I think that's healthy. 956 00:40:30,542 --> 00:40:32,042 I think that's-- - Yeah. 957 00:40:32,125 --> 00:40:33,458 - Smart. 958 00:40:33,542 --> 00:40:35,333 - Yeah, and like I said, just, like, 959 00:40:35,458 --> 00:40:38,667 trying to clear off the lens that I've been, 960 00:40:38,750 --> 00:40:40,667 like, viewing all of this in-- 961 00:40:40,792 --> 00:40:41,833 - Yeah. 962 00:40:41,875 --> 00:40:43,000 - Because it's definitely gotten 963 00:40:43,042 --> 00:40:43,958 blurred by a few things. 964 00:40:44,042 --> 00:40:45,583 - Yeah. 965 00:40:45,667 --> 00:40:48,792 - I think I would be... 966 00:40:48,875 --> 00:40:51,292 misleading if I said that I wasn't anxious about it. 967 00:40:51,375 --> 00:40:52,667 - Are you? - Yeah. 968 00:40:52,708 --> 00:40:53,833 - I'm sorry. - It's OK. 969 00:40:53,875 --> 00:40:56,000 I just-- 970 00:40:56,083 --> 00:40:57,333 - I am happy. 971 00:40:57,375 --> 00:40:58,875 - [chuckles] 972 00:40:59,000 --> 00:40:59,875 - I hope you are, too. 973 00:40:59,958 --> 00:41:01,833 - I'm-- 974 00:41:01,917 --> 00:41:04,000 - I'm not sure I get that vibe from you, if I'm being honest. 975 00:41:04,083 --> 00:41:05,583 - I'm--I just-- 976 00:41:05,667 --> 00:41:06,833 I haven't--like, these last three weeks, 977 00:41:06,917 --> 00:41:09,167 I, like, haven't been happy, you know? 978 00:41:09,250 --> 00:41:11,167 - Yeah. 979 00:41:11,250 --> 00:41:12,542 - And the decision that I made today 980 00:41:12,625 --> 00:41:14,792 is in hopes that I can find that again. 981 00:41:14,875 --> 00:41:18,000 And hopefully, it's with you. 982 00:41:18,125 --> 00:41:20,167 - Yeah, I get it. 983 00:41:20,250 --> 00:41:21,667 Feel the same. 984 00:41:21,708 --> 00:41:22,792 - Yeah. 985 00:41:22,875 --> 00:41:24,375 OK. 986 00:41:24,458 --> 00:41:27,000 - I think the process of the production element 987 00:41:27,042 --> 00:41:29,792 is very hard and stressful and challenging. 988 00:41:29,875 --> 00:41:32,667 And I think some people can handle it better than others. 989 00:41:32,708 --> 00:41:36,167 And I'm not sure--and I think that has been 990 00:41:36,250 --> 00:41:37,833 a challenge for me as well. 991 00:41:37,958 --> 00:41:41,458 And, you know, I think there's a lot of work to do 992 00:41:41,542 --> 00:41:43,000 and a lot more to figure out. 993 00:41:43,083 --> 00:41:45,333 But, you know, I'm gonna try my best. 994 00:41:45,417 --> 00:41:48,000 And I'm choosing Becca right now. 995 00:41:48,083 --> 00:41:53,042 I'm choosing to continue to do what I can 996 00:41:53,125 --> 00:41:54,458 to make this marriage work. 997 00:41:54,542 --> 00:41:56,375 - ♪ Better love, a better you ♪ 998 00:41:56,458 --> 00:41:57,875 ♪ A better me 999 00:41:57,958 --> 00:42:00,708 ♪ A better two 1000 00:42:00,792 --> 00:42:02,292 - I do love this jacket. 1001 00:42:02,375 --> 00:42:04,333 - ♪ Finally found forever 1002 00:42:04,417 --> 00:42:06,458 ♪ 1003 00:42:06,542 --> 00:42:09,833 - ♪ Break out into the spotlight ♪ 1004 00:42:09,917 --> 00:42:14,375 ♪ One chance the victory is you ♪ 1005 00:42:14,458 --> 00:42:15,667 - Who's up? 1006 00:42:15,750 --> 00:42:16,708 - Cameron and Clare. 1007 00:42:16,792 --> 00:42:18,667 - Cameron and Clare-- 1008 00:42:18,750 --> 00:42:19,708 wow. 1009 00:42:19,792 --> 00:42:20,958 - Ooh. 1010 00:42:21,083 --> 00:42:23,500 - You know, between their separating 1011 00:42:23,542 --> 00:42:25,417 because they felt it was toxic, 1012 00:42:25,500 --> 00:42:28,542 and then him getting a serious scare 1013 00:42:28,625 --> 00:42:31,375 as well as real physical challenge, 1014 00:42:31,458 --> 00:42:33,167 I mean-- - It's just been so much. 1015 00:42:33,292 --> 00:42:35,000 - I know. 1016 00:42:35,083 --> 00:42:36,875 And, you know, we don't really know what's really been going 1017 00:42:36,958 --> 00:42:38,333 on in his head very well. And-- 1018 00:42:38,417 --> 00:42:39,917 - Mm-hmm. 1019 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,375 - We want to make sure that they have 1020 00:42:41,458 --> 00:42:43,875 truly exhausted all options. 1021 00:42:43,958 --> 00:42:45,167 - Yeah. - Yeah. 1022 00:42:45,167 --> 00:42:46,167 - Yeah. - Should we go? 1023 00:42:46,250 --> 00:42:49,542 - Yeah, let's go. - Let's go meet with them. 1024 00:42:49,667 --> 00:42:52,500 [pop music] 1025 00:42:52,583 --> 00:42:54,792 ♪ 1026 00:42:54,875 --> 00:42:58,583 - ♪ My heart skipped a beat when I saw you ♪ 1027 00:42:58,667 --> 00:43:03,292 ♪ Yeah, I saw the sparkle inside your eyes ♪ 1028 00:43:03,375 --> 00:43:04,708 - The first time I saw Cameron, 1029 00:43:04,792 --> 00:43:06,750 I thought, he's very handsome. 1030 00:43:06,833 --> 00:43:09,500 He's a very good-looking man. 1031 00:43:09,583 --> 00:43:11,958 - Meet for the very first time Cameron-- 1032 00:43:12,042 --> 00:43:13,333 - Cameron. - Your husband-to-be. 1033 00:43:13,375 --> 00:43:14,583 - I love it. 1034 00:43:14,667 --> 00:43:16,000 He's very tall. 1035 00:43:16,083 --> 00:43:18,542 Were you like, I don't want a short girl? 1036 00:43:18,625 --> 00:43:20,250 - No, I didn't say that. 1037 00:43:20,250 --> 00:43:21,792 - [laughs] 1038 00:43:21,875 --> 00:43:23,583 - Cameron has a lot of amazing qualities, 1039 00:43:23,667 --> 00:43:26,875 like being very smart, hard-working. 1040 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,375 - How we look? 1041 00:43:28,458 --> 00:43:30,167 - You look very official. 1042 00:43:30,250 --> 00:43:33,333 - [vocalizing] 1043 00:43:33,375 --> 00:43:34,792 ♪ When you're by my side 1044 00:43:34,875 --> 00:43:36,542 - Whenever Cameron and I are together, 1045 00:43:36,625 --> 00:43:39,417 it's very easy to laugh-- 1046 00:43:39,500 --> 00:43:41,833 [laughing] Are you kidding me? 1047 00:43:41,875 --> 00:43:45,125 To be ourselves and just learn from each other. 1048 00:43:45,208 --> 00:43:47,500 And that's such an important thing for me. 1049 00:43:47,542 --> 00:43:49,458 - Even with the limited romance we have, 1050 00:43:49,542 --> 00:43:52,167 I am getting attached to you. 1051 00:43:52,292 --> 00:43:54,542 - But Cameron also lacks some of the things 1052 00:43:54,625 --> 00:43:55,833 I need in a husband. 1053 00:43:55,917 --> 00:43:57,667 [melancholy music] 1054 00:43:57,708 --> 00:44:00,167 Just, like, the desire to be, like, wanted-- 1055 00:44:00,208 --> 00:44:02,500 I sometimes don't feel that with Cameron. 1056 00:44:02,542 --> 00:44:04,417 I'm not sure if we've, like, hit a wall. 1057 00:44:04,500 --> 00:44:06,583 There is zero romance. 1058 00:44:06,667 --> 00:44:08,208 - ♪ No easy way to find 1059 00:44:08,333 --> 00:44:09,708 - So how is your relationship with your father? 1060 00:44:09,792 --> 00:44:11,083 Does he know you're on this? 1061 00:44:11,167 --> 00:44:12,292 - No. - [gasps] 1062 00:44:12,375 --> 00:44:14,000 - Really? 1063 00:44:14,042 --> 00:44:18,000 - ♪ I'm so sorry for the words I've spoken ♪ 1064 00:44:18,125 --> 00:44:22,292 - Cameron does struggle with opening up emotionally. 1065 00:44:22,375 --> 00:44:26,458 And it does make me feel like he's pushing me away. 1066 00:44:26,542 --> 00:44:28,250 [softly] I'm so sorry. 1067 00:44:28,333 --> 00:44:30,167 [sniffles] 1068 00:44:30,208 --> 00:44:35,125 I feel sad because of the hope that I had for my marriage. 1069 00:44:35,208 --> 00:44:37,833 But I'm also feeling really grateful. 1070 00:44:37,917 --> 00:44:41,833 I couldn't do this process with anyone else, truly. 1071 00:44:41,875 --> 00:44:45,167 And so I am incredibly grateful for him. 1072 00:44:45,250 --> 00:44:48,750 - ♪ I'm sorry 1073 00:44:48,833 --> 00:44:50,208 [uplifting music] 1074 00:44:50,292 --> 00:44:53,917 - The first time I saw Clare, I thought, wow. 1075 00:44:53,917 --> 00:44:55,167 - You look nice. - Thank you. 1076 00:44:55,208 --> 00:44:57,125 You are--I mean, you are breathtaking. 1077 00:44:57,208 --> 00:44:58,625 - [laughs] 1078 00:44:58,708 --> 00:45:00,875 - You are truly such an amazing person. 1079 00:45:00,958 --> 00:45:02,625 - Aw. 1080 00:45:02,708 --> 00:45:04,667 - And it doesn't help that you're easy on the eyes. 1081 00:45:04,750 --> 00:45:06,167 I mean, it helps. 1082 00:45:06,250 --> 00:45:07,542 It helps that you're easy on the eyes. 1083 00:45:07,625 --> 00:45:09,083 - [giggles] 1084 00:45:09,167 --> 00:45:10,542 - ♪ And while the skies are blue ♪ 1085 00:45:10,667 --> 00:45:12,500 - I respect him so much. 1086 00:45:12,583 --> 00:45:14,625 - The best person, maybe ever, I've met. 1087 00:45:14,708 --> 00:45:15,750 Like-- - Oh. 1088 00:45:15,875 --> 00:45:16,792 - I am--truly, truly. 1089 00:45:16,917 --> 00:45:18,500 - That's so nice. 1090 00:45:18,583 --> 00:45:21,667 - But because we don't have that baseline connection 1091 00:45:21,750 --> 00:45:26,542 to fall back on, we do tend to fall apart. 1092 00:45:26,667 --> 00:45:28,000 One, two, three. 1093 00:45:28,083 --> 00:45:30,375 I want a divorce. - Separated. 1094 00:45:30,458 --> 00:45:32,000 - Same thing, same answer. Yeah. 1095 00:45:32,042 --> 00:45:33,833 I only speak to our experience. 1096 00:45:33,917 --> 00:45:36,000 But it's been very difficult for Clare and I. 1097 00:45:36,083 --> 00:45:39,917 There are some big things that we just simply don't align on. 1098 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,583 It can be hard to connect with Clare 1099 00:45:43,667 --> 00:45:47,625 because sometimes she hears what she wants to hear. 1100 00:45:47,708 --> 00:45:49,000 - It's not like you can just naturally 1101 00:45:49,042 --> 00:45:50,917 just come over and give me a kiss. 1102 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,333 Like, that's not natural for you to do that to me, right? 1103 00:45:53,375 --> 00:45:54,833 - Well, I would. 1104 00:45:54,875 --> 00:45:56,750 - Hmm, that's interesting. OK. 1105 00:45:56,875 --> 00:45:58,917 - ♪ Yeah, I see you 1106 00:45:59,042 --> 00:46:03,208 - I think Clare could have done better 1107 00:46:03,333 --> 00:46:06,333 focusing on building a stronger connection. 1108 00:46:06,375 --> 00:46:08,250 I'd say the most painful thing about all this 1109 00:46:08,375 --> 00:46:11,333 is Clare and I, I think, are extremely compatible. 1110 00:46:11,375 --> 00:46:13,167 Just the more time I spend around her, 1111 00:46:13,250 --> 00:46:15,583 the more and more I'm getting attached. 1112 00:46:15,708 --> 00:46:17,375 I'm here to try. 1113 00:46:17,458 --> 00:46:19,292 And I'm happy to try. 1114 00:46:19,375 --> 00:46:23,500 However, I would be doing myself a great disservice 1115 00:46:23,583 --> 00:46:28,542 if we really thought there was no future because the-- 1116 00:46:28,625 --> 00:46:30,583 it's literally just pain at that point. 1117 00:46:30,708 --> 00:46:34,208 ♪ 1118 00:46:34,292 --> 00:46:36,458 But if there is a potential future, 1119 00:46:36,542 --> 00:46:39,625 then the pain is worth it. 1120 00:46:39,708 --> 00:46:43,542 - ♪ Fire, so close 1121 00:46:43,667 --> 00:46:47,417 - So if she--if she says that she wants to stay together, 1122 00:46:47,500 --> 00:46:49,875 I'm going to stay together with her on Decision Day. 1123 00:46:49,958 --> 00:46:52,792 - ♪ Like a fire 1124 00:46:52,875 --> 00:46:54,667 ♪ So hold on 1125 00:46:54,708 --> 00:46:56,542 ♪ 1126 00:47:00,542 --> 00:47:02,167 - [vocalizing] 1127 00:47:02,208 --> 00:47:08,500 ♪ 1128 00:47:08,625 --> 00:47:11,667 ♪ Let the walls come down 1129 00:47:11,750 --> 00:47:15,375 ♪ 1130 00:47:15,500 --> 00:47:16,667 - Hi, Cameron. Come on in. 1131 00:47:16,750 --> 00:47:19,667 - Hello. - Hello. 1132 00:47:19,708 --> 00:47:20,792 - Nice to see you. 1133 00:47:20,875 --> 00:47:22,333 - You as well. 1134 00:47:22,417 --> 00:47:23,750 - I don't remember you as being this tall. 1135 00:47:23,875 --> 00:47:25,167 [both chuckling] 1136 00:47:25,208 --> 00:47:27,167 ♪ 1137 00:47:27,292 --> 00:47:31,792 - All right, how are you feeling health-wise, Cameron? 1138 00:47:31,875 --> 00:47:33,208 - A lot better. 1139 00:47:33,333 --> 00:47:36,667 But stupidly, I upped the medication, 1140 00:47:36,792 --> 00:47:38,083 thinking I needed to. 1141 00:47:38,167 --> 00:47:39,708 - Do you need a snack or something? 1142 00:47:39,792 --> 00:47:41,083 - What medication are they giving you? 1143 00:47:41,167 --> 00:47:42,458 - So I'm on beta blockers, blood thinners-- 1144 00:47:42,583 --> 00:47:44,417 - Oh, just-- - Blood thinners? 1145 00:47:44,500 --> 00:47:45,333 - So you've got to be careful standing up and getting down. 1146 00:47:45,417 --> 00:47:46,625 - Yeah. - Yeah. 1147 00:47:46,708 --> 00:47:47,833 - Yeah, yeah. But it's fine. 1148 00:47:47,875 --> 00:47:49,125 We'll get through it, yeah. 1149 00:47:49,208 --> 00:47:50,375 - All right, please let us know. 1150 00:47:50,458 --> 00:47:52,333 Don't push yourself. - Yeah, it'll be fine. 1151 00:47:52,375 --> 00:47:53,583 - OK, here comes Clare. 1152 00:47:53,667 --> 00:47:54,875 [gentle music] 1153 00:47:54,958 --> 00:47:57,625 - Come on down. - Here she is. 1154 00:47:57,708 --> 00:47:59,750 - Hey. 1155 00:47:59,833 --> 00:48:01,000 - You look nice. 1156 00:48:01,083 --> 00:48:03,000 - You look great, by the way. 1157 00:48:03,042 --> 00:48:04,958 - Miss you. - You, too. 1158 00:48:05,042 --> 00:48:06,958 - Oh, where do I sit? 1159 00:48:07,042 --> 00:48:08,708 - Here, I think, yeah? 1160 00:48:08,792 --> 00:48:10,000 - OK. 1161 00:48:10,042 --> 00:48:11,958 - Hi, guys. - Hi. 1162 00:48:12,042 --> 00:48:13,417 - It's good to have you here together. 1163 00:48:13,542 --> 00:48:15,042 - Yeah. 1164 00:48:15,167 --> 00:48:17,625 - You know, because you've already separated, 1165 00:48:17,708 --> 00:48:22,542 I want to ask you about the moment when Cameron got ill 1166 00:48:22,667 --> 00:48:27,125 and had to face some scary things about his heart. 1167 00:48:27,208 --> 00:48:29,750 So tell me a little bit about that period. 1168 00:48:29,833 --> 00:48:32,500 - From my perspective, 1169 00:48:32,583 --> 00:48:38,167 my experience of my condition came after we separated. 1170 00:48:38,250 --> 00:48:44,000 And I wanted Clare to know that she had no commitment 1171 00:48:44,042 --> 00:48:48,083 to me to take care of me. 1172 00:48:48,167 --> 00:48:53,333 And I also wanted her to know that it would be easier for me 1173 00:48:53,417 --> 00:48:58,208 to kind of work through the situation more on my own. 1174 00:48:58,333 --> 00:49:01,792 I've faced other health challenges in my life. 1175 00:49:01,875 --> 00:49:06,167 And I--I'm just gonna say, selfishly, 1176 00:49:06,208 --> 00:49:08,333 usually, the more people that get involved, 1177 00:49:08,375 --> 00:49:10,792 the harder it is as an individual 1178 00:49:10,875 --> 00:49:13,333 to actually accomplish 1179 00:49:13,417 --> 00:49:15,500 your goal of focusing on your health. 1180 00:49:15,583 --> 00:49:17,333 - Hmm. 1181 00:49:17,417 --> 00:49:19,958 - You know, if I were ill, I would have-- 1182 00:49:20,042 --> 00:49:22,000 I would want just people around me. 1183 00:49:22,083 --> 00:49:25,250 And so I have to recognize that you wanted to be alone. 1184 00:49:25,333 --> 00:49:28,000 And that was really hard for me because 1185 00:49:28,042 --> 00:49:30,167 I felt like we were already at a pretty 1186 00:49:30,250 --> 00:49:32,167 tough spot in our relationship. 1187 00:49:32,208 --> 00:49:33,875 But at that point, it wasn't about me. 1188 00:49:33,958 --> 00:49:36,000 It was just like, how can I support you? 1189 00:49:36,083 --> 00:49:39,083 But I think there was a massively large wall 1190 00:49:39,083 --> 00:49:40,542 that was put in between us. 1191 00:49:40,625 --> 00:49:42,250 And we just distanced-- 1192 00:49:42,333 --> 00:49:43,958 I feel like what I was feeling was that 1193 00:49:44,042 --> 00:49:46,167 you were distancing me further and further away. 1194 00:49:46,208 --> 00:49:49,125 And for me, it's like I still want to be somewhere. 1195 00:49:49,208 --> 00:49:51,500 As someone who is, like, empathetic and nurturing, 1196 00:49:51,542 --> 00:49:54,417 to show you that I care-- I wanted to be there. 1197 00:49:54,500 --> 00:49:56,458 And it just felt like you didn't want me there. 1198 00:49:56,542 --> 00:49:58,000 But again, I had to-- 1199 00:49:58,042 --> 00:49:59,417 your health is the number one thing. 1200 00:49:59,542 --> 00:50:01,167 And that's not my place to tell you what's best for you. 1201 00:50:01,250 --> 00:50:02,708 - And-- 1202 00:50:02,833 --> 00:50:04,042 - It just--it felt like we were growing 1203 00:50:04,125 --> 00:50:05,708 further and further apart. 1204 00:50:05,792 --> 00:50:10,333 - But you are such an empathetic, caring person 1205 00:50:10,375 --> 00:50:16,083 that I felt your emotion towards me in that moment. 1206 00:50:16,167 --> 00:50:18,833 And I will put my hand up and say, 1207 00:50:18,875 --> 00:50:20,833 I was too weak to take it. 1208 00:50:20,917 --> 00:50:22,375 I was too weak to accept it. 1209 00:50:22,458 --> 00:50:25,167 But, you know, I was extremely appreciative 1210 00:50:25,292 --> 00:50:28,333 of what I would call love, right? 1211 00:50:28,417 --> 00:50:29,833 - Yeah. 1212 00:50:29,917 --> 00:50:32,333 - And you are someone who I've really 1213 00:50:32,417 --> 00:50:35,667 not come across in my life in any capacity. 1214 00:50:35,750 --> 00:50:38,542 And to know that there are people like you out there 1215 00:50:38,625 --> 00:50:41,500 that I really think, in just very slightly 1216 00:50:41,625 --> 00:50:45,125 different circumstances, that we could have had, you know, 1217 00:50:45,208 --> 00:50:46,917 a successful relationship, 1218 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:47,875 and we could have had a successful marriage. 1219 00:50:47,958 --> 00:50:49,583 - Yeah. 1220 00:50:49,667 --> 00:50:52,333 But also, like, reflecting on our whole marriage, 1221 00:50:52,417 --> 00:50:56,000 I feel like it--there was many, many misunderstandings 1222 00:50:56,042 --> 00:50:59,667 and many ways that you viewed a situation 1223 00:50:59,792 --> 00:51:01,583 that I viewed differently. 1224 00:51:01,708 --> 00:51:03,167 And I feel like we just couldn't get on the same page 1225 00:51:03,208 --> 00:51:04,333 about a lot of things. 1226 00:51:04,417 --> 00:51:08,708 - We just have just somehow, 1227 00:51:08,792 --> 00:51:12,250 like, 100/100 record of just 1228 00:51:12,333 --> 00:51:14,667 remembering the same conversation differently. 1229 00:51:14,750 --> 00:51:18,792 - What got in the way of having this conversation with us? 1230 00:51:18,792 --> 00:51:20,708 - I don't know. 1231 00:51:20,833 --> 00:51:22,750 - I don't know why I didn't bring up these issues before. 1232 00:51:22,833 --> 00:51:25,417 I think we were just so busy protecting each other 1233 00:51:25,500 --> 00:51:27,375 and trying not to make each other be 1234 00:51:27,458 --> 00:51:30,708 looked in a negative light that it literally-- 1235 00:51:30,833 --> 00:51:32,667 we weren't opening up to you guys like we should have been. 1236 00:51:32,750 --> 00:51:34,167 - Yeah. 1237 00:51:34,208 --> 00:51:36,167 - Maybe we shot ourselves in the foot. 1238 00:51:36,208 --> 00:51:40,417 But we did talk about, like, what did we ask for? 1239 00:51:40,500 --> 00:51:46,458 And in hindsight, it was too early for that conversation. 1240 00:51:46,542 --> 00:51:52,333 And she took issue with the word "slender." 1241 00:51:52,375 --> 00:51:58,917 And she basically said that she felt that she was not. 1242 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:04,250 And I said, well, from my perspective, 1243 00:52:04,333 --> 00:52:05,625 you absolutely are. 1244 00:52:05,708 --> 00:52:07,625 Like, it wasn't just, like, a discussion 1245 00:52:07,625 --> 00:52:09,375 about what I was trying-- like, I was literally arguing 1246 00:52:09,458 --> 00:52:12,375 with her that how she saw her body 1247 00:52:12,458 --> 00:52:14,375 was very different than how I saw her body. 1248 00:52:14,375 --> 00:52:16,042 - Like, I have had a history with, like, 1249 00:52:16,125 --> 00:52:17,917 you know, body image issues. 1250 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,292 And so that was, like--it made me feel like I'm not his type. 1251 00:52:21,292 --> 00:52:23,000 The sad thing is I feel like I had 1252 00:52:23,083 --> 00:52:24,500 to hear from people around me. 1253 00:52:24,583 --> 00:52:26,542 - But I did make a lot of compliments to you. 1254 00:52:26,625 --> 00:52:28,500 - You did. 1255 00:52:28,542 --> 00:52:31,417 And I'm sorry I wasn't able to take it because of how I felt. 1256 00:52:31,542 --> 00:52:33,167 And again, that's where we're disconnected there. 1257 00:52:33,250 --> 00:52:34,833 And we tried really hard. 1258 00:52:34,917 --> 00:52:36,167 - So can you help me understand, 1259 00:52:36,250 --> 00:52:37,458 how did we not have, like, 1260 00:52:37,542 --> 00:52:38,833 further conversation about this? 1261 00:52:38,875 --> 00:52:40,000 Because it sounds like there's a misunderstanding. 1262 00:52:40,083 --> 00:52:41,667 - I said--right. 1263 00:52:41,750 --> 00:52:43,667 I mean, to be honest with you, after the honeymoon, 1264 00:52:43,750 --> 00:52:46,375 we're only living together for, like, I mean, how long? 1265 00:52:46,458 --> 00:52:47,833 And then he moves out. 1266 00:52:47,958 --> 00:52:50,667 So how am I supposed to even-- 1267 00:52:50,708 --> 00:52:53,000 I was alone more than I was with Cameron in this process. 1268 00:52:53,125 --> 00:52:54,500 - We lived together for four weeks, 1269 00:52:54,583 --> 00:52:56,167 just to throw that out there. 1270 00:52:56,250 --> 00:52:57,708 - And then after that, it was-- OK. 1271 00:52:57,792 --> 00:53:00,000 - Yeah, and then after that, I was in hospital. 1272 00:53:00,042 --> 00:53:01,333 - Yeah. - But here's my question. 1273 00:53:01,458 --> 00:53:03,000 - So in that four weeks, there was, I feel like, 1274 00:53:03,083 --> 00:53:04,292 a lot of growth that we did. 1275 00:53:04,375 --> 00:53:06,000 And I was seeing beyond that. 1276 00:53:06,042 --> 00:53:07,167 And some of my guards were coming down. 1277 00:53:07,208 --> 00:53:09,333 - But now, it-- 1278 00:53:09,375 --> 00:53:11,708 by that point, it was becoming too late for me. 1279 00:53:11,833 --> 00:53:13,583 - Yeah. - Right. 1280 00:53:13,708 --> 00:53:16,833 ♪ 1281 00:53:16,917 --> 00:53:20,167 - I mean, I definitely feel that our marriage 1282 00:53:20,208 --> 00:53:22,500 has had a lot of challenges. 1283 00:53:22,583 --> 00:53:24,042 - Right. 1284 00:53:24,125 --> 00:53:25,708 - I mean, when I think of the whole experience 1285 00:53:25,792 --> 00:53:29,167 of our marriage, like, to me, I felt like 1286 00:53:29,250 --> 00:53:30,958 even though we had our differences-- 1287 00:53:31,042 --> 00:53:32,667 - Yeah. 1288 00:53:32,708 --> 00:53:35,750 - I really felt like I built, like, a sense of, like, 1289 00:53:35,875 --> 00:53:37,667 camaraderie with you. 1290 00:53:37,708 --> 00:53:39,708 Like, I really--like, I think we've used the word, 1291 00:53:39,792 --> 00:53:41,500 like, "teammate." 1292 00:53:41,625 --> 00:53:44,708 Like, I really--as much as we struggled, 1293 00:53:44,875 --> 00:53:48,125 I feel like we still showed up. 1294 00:53:48,208 --> 00:53:49,250 - Yeah. Yeah. 1295 00:53:49,333 --> 00:53:50,917 - You know? 1296 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:52,750 And every time we showed up, 1297 00:53:52,833 --> 00:53:55,083 or most of the times we showed up, it wasn't easy. 1298 00:53:55,167 --> 00:53:56,667 - Right. - But we did show up. 1299 00:53:56,750 --> 00:54:00,083 And I think that was showing something 1300 00:54:00,208 --> 00:54:01,667 that was quite important. 1301 00:54:01,750 --> 00:54:03,500 - Yeah. 1302 00:54:03,542 --> 00:54:04,917 - You know, it's kind of interesting 1303 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:06,333 because you both are-- 1304 00:54:06,417 --> 00:54:08,500 seem to be very compassionate, 1305 00:54:08,542 --> 00:54:10,042 very understanding of each other. 1306 00:54:10,125 --> 00:54:13,250 You give each other so much grace. 1307 00:54:13,333 --> 00:54:18,083 And you're so dedicated to not casting your spouse 1308 00:54:18,167 --> 00:54:19,500 in a negative light. 1309 00:54:19,625 --> 00:54:22,292 And it just seems... [exhales] 1310 00:54:22,375 --> 00:54:26,375 Just unfortunate that, you know, you were these ships 1311 00:54:26,458 --> 00:54:31,333 crossing in the night that never managed to connect, 1312 00:54:31,375 --> 00:54:33,458 you know, which is an unfortunate thing 1313 00:54:33,542 --> 00:54:37,167 because had that been mediated-- 1314 00:54:37,208 --> 00:54:38,875 - Yeah. 1315 00:54:38,958 --> 00:54:42,167 - There could have been some serious compatibility here. 1316 00:54:42,208 --> 00:54:44,583 - Yeah. 1317 00:54:44,667 --> 00:54:48,083 - I'm not sure why we miss each other so much. 1318 00:54:48,208 --> 00:54:49,667 - Yeah. 1319 00:54:49,708 --> 00:54:51,708 - I want to take my share of that blame. 1320 00:54:51,833 --> 00:54:54,542 And is that because I-- 1321 00:54:54,667 --> 00:54:57,500 I'm not communicating clearly enough 1322 00:54:57,500 --> 00:55:03,458 that you're just hearing what I'm not intending? 1323 00:55:03,542 --> 00:55:06,708 Or am I communicating so poorly, 1324 00:55:06,833 --> 00:55:09,500 I'm not remembering what I'm communicating? 1325 00:55:09,542 --> 00:55:13,250 Wherever that blame lies, I'm a part of that, absolutely, yes. 1326 00:55:13,375 --> 00:55:15,000 - I mean, it takes two. 1327 00:55:15,083 --> 00:55:17,000 And I think ultimately the reason that was happening 1328 00:55:17,083 --> 00:55:19,333 is because I was, I'll be honest, 1329 00:55:19,458 --> 00:55:22,542 confused at many points of this journey. 1330 00:55:22,625 --> 00:55:25,000 I was very unaware of my feelings. 1331 00:55:25,042 --> 00:55:27,333 And I think, you know, like, as a therapist, 1332 00:55:27,458 --> 00:55:29,000 people expect you to know your feelings all the time. 1333 00:55:29,042 --> 00:55:30,417 And it's like-- - Mm-hmm. 1334 00:55:30,500 --> 00:55:32,208 - [whispering] Yeah. - Let me be real. 1335 00:55:32,333 --> 00:55:33,333 Like, I don't know at all what I'm experiencing. 1336 00:55:33,417 --> 00:55:35,083 And it felt very scary to me. 1337 00:55:35,208 --> 00:55:37,542 I was like, this is not a good place for me to be in. 1338 00:55:37,625 --> 00:55:39,667 And I'm sorry. [sniffles] 1339 00:55:39,792 --> 00:55:42,167 - You're a therapist, but you're still human, Clare. 1340 00:55:42,250 --> 00:55:43,667 - [tearfully] Right. 1341 00:55:43,792 --> 00:55:45,208 And I'm sorry that I took you on that journey of, like, 1342 00:55:45,292 --> 00:55:47,292 where in the hell is she right now? 1343 00:55:47,292 --> 00:55:50,333 [crying] And, like, 1344 00:55:50,375 --> 00:55:51,833 that didn't feel good for me either. 1345 00:55:51,917 --> 00:55:55,083 And I knew that that was hurting you. 1346 00:55:55,167 --> 00:55:56,167 And I'm sorry for that. 1347 00:55:56,292 --> 00:55:58,583 Like, I was all over the place. 1348 00:55:58,667 --> 00:56:01,042 [crying] 1349 00:56:01,125 --> 00:56:02,500 So I'm sorry that I hurt you. 1350 00:56:02,625 --> 00:56:06,500 I definitely felt that in the moment, too. 1351 00:56:06,542 --> 00:56:07,708 - I accept your apology, OK? 1352 00:56:07,792 --> 00:56:10,208 - Thank you. 1353 00:56:10,292 --> 00:56:14,958 - I am sorry that I, you know-- 1354 00:56:15,042 --> 00:56:17,708 I'm gonna say it plainly. I [bleep] up the process. 1355 00:56:17,792 --> 00:56:21,542 Like, I... 1356 00:56:21,542 --> 00:56:24,042 through maybe wanting to take control, 1357 00:56:24,125 --> 00:56:29,083 through wanting to maybe, you know, 1358 00:56:29,167 --> 00:56:31,833 try and defend myself against what 1359 00:56:31,875 --> 00:56:34,292 I thought was an impending rejection, you know-- 1360 00:56:34,375 --> 00:56:36,625 like, I can't tell you the exact reason. 1361 00:56:36,708 --> 00:56:39,625 I obviously felt a reason to do it. 1362 00:56:39,708 --> 00:56:41,958 And I'm sorry for that. 1363 00:56:41,958 --> 00:56:44,250 - I appreciate that. It means a lot. 1364 00:56:44,333 --> 00:56:45,958 - Wow. - I forgive you. 1365 00:56:45,958 --> 00:56:47,583 - Thank you. 1366 00:56:47,667 --> 00:56:50,500 - That's--that's all we ask for. 1367 00:56:50,542 --> 00:56:52,125 That's beautiful, actually. 1368 00:56:52,208 --> 00:56:53,500 - Mm-hmm. 1369 00:56:53,583 --> 00:56:55,417 - And we've opened up a door here. 1370 00:56:55,500 --> 00:56:57,167 - Mm-hmm. 1371 00:56:57,208 --> 00:56:59,417 - But we're here for Decision Day. 1372 00:56:59,500 --> 00:57:02,000 - Mm-hmm. - And the time has come-- 1373 00:57:02,125 --> 00:57:03,333 [intense music] 1374 00:57:03,417 --> 00:57:06,167 - For you to decide 1375 00:57:06,208 --> 00:57:09,292 whether to remain separated and get a divorce... 1376 00:57:09,375 --> 00:57:12,208 ♪ 1377 00:57:12,208 --> 00:57:16,417 Or get to know each other after the documentation 1378 00:57:16,500 --> 00:57:20,583 and maybe reset to give it another shot. 1379 00:57:20,708 --> 00:57:22,500 ♪ 1380 00:57:22,583 --> 00:57:25,167 - I-- [clears throat] 1381 00:57:25,208 --> 00:57:28,500 ♪ 1382 00:57:32,208 --> 00:57:33,542 ♪ 1383 00:57:33,542 --> 00:57:35,792 - Um-- [clears throat] 1384 00:57:35,875 --> 00:57:37,500 ♪ 1385 00:57:37,583 --> 00:57:41,708 I--I'm really proud of us. 1386 00:57:41,792 --> 00:57:46,750 Getting to know you has taught me so much 1387 00:57:46,833 --> 00:57:51,750 about what is important in relationships, 1388 00:57:51,875 --> 00:57:54,667 what is important when it comes to attraction. 1389 00:57:54,708 --> 00:58:00,000 And I can look at the other side of the coin. 1390 00:58:00,083 --> 00:58:02,500 - Mm-hmm. 1391 00:58:02,542 --> 00:58:05,000 - I'm just gonna say it very simply. 1392 00:58:05,083 --> 00:58:10,167 Whatever attraction I had for you is gone in that capacity. 1393 00:58:10,292 --> 00:58:13,875 And when I look at you, like-- 1394 00:58:13,958 --> 00:58:15,833 and please don't take offense to this. 1395 00:58:15,917 --> 00:58:17,542 But, like, I see a family member. 1396 00:58:17,625 --> 00:58:19,208 I see a--I see a sister. 1397 00:58:19,292 --> 00:58:22,125 I see someone that I have an amazing bond with, 1398 00:58:22,208 --> 00:58:24,000 someone I care about deeply. 1399 00:58:24,125 --> 00:58:29,167 And for me, for that reason, I can't stay married to you. 1400 00:58:29,250 --> 00:58:31,625 And I would want a divorce. 1401 00:58:31,708 --> 00:58:34,000 - Mm-hmm. - [softly] OK. 1402 00:58:34,042 --> 00:58:35,667 ♪ 1403 00:58:35,750 --> 00:58:37,333 [sighs] 1404 00:58:37,417 --> 00:58:40,542 ♪ 1405 00:58:40,625 --> 00:58:45,167 - Cameron, you have been amazing to me 1406 00:58:45,250 --> 00:58:47,250 during this process. 1407 00:58:47,333 --> 00:58:52,125 I think I'm so grateful for what you've given me, 1408 00:58:52,208 --> 00:58:56,083 which is I literally couldn't imagine doing this 1409 00:58:56,167 --> 00:58:58,333 with anyone else, truly. 1410 00:58:58,417 --> 00:59:00,875 I learned a lot about myself. 1411 00:59:00,958 --> 00:59:06,708 I learned a lot about growing and what that looks like. 1412 00:59:06,792 --> 00:59:09,458 And there were so many beautiful parts 1413 00:59:09,542 --> 00:59:11,792 of our marriage. 1414 00:59:11,917 --> 00:59:14,542 However, you know, I want a love 1415 00:59:14,667 --> 00:59:17,417 where I can just express my feelings 1416 00:59:17,500 --> 00:59:19,708 and not have to explain myself. 1417 00:59:19,875 --> 00:59:21,542 But all that to say, I respect you so much. 1418 00:59:21,667 --> 00:59:24,667 I care about you so deeply. 1419 00:59:24,750 --> 00:59:27,792 But I would like to get a divorce. 1420 00:59:27,875 --> 00:59:31,500 ♪ 1421 00:59:31,583 --> 00:59:34,417 - OK. [exhales] 1422 00:59:34,500 --> 00:59:39,250 - Well, it's... 1423 00:59:39,333 --> 00:59:42,167 it's impressive to see you both take accountability 1424 00:59:42,292 --> 00:59:43,917 for what went wrong. 1425 00:59:44,042 --> 00:59:46,250 It's impressive to see the growth that each of you 1426 00:59:46,333 --> 00:59:50,125 recognizes and the gifts that you've given each other. 1427 00:59:50,208 --> 00:59:53,792 I do feel a lot of friendship and admiration between you 1428 00:59:53,875 --> 00:59:56,167 and hope that bond goes on. 1429 00:59:56,250 --> 00:59:58,333 And we wish you both very well. 1430 00:59:58,375 --> 01:00:00,125 - Thank you. - I certainly do. 1431 01:00:00,208 --> 01:00:03,542 I know my colleagues are feeling touched by the kinds 1432 01:00:03,625 --> 01:00:05,833 of self-recognition and conversations 1433 01:00:05,917 --> 01:00:07,458 you've just had with each other. 1434 01:00:07,542 --> 01:00:09,167 And thank you for that, for your honesty 1435 01:00:09,208 --> 01:00:10,583 and for your feelings. 1436 01:00:10,667 --> 01:00:12,125 - Thank you so much-- 1437 01:00:12,208 --> 01:00:13,833 - Thank you. 1438 01:00:13,917 --> 01:00:15,542 - For your time and everything you've done for us. 1439 01:00:15,667 --> 01:00:17,792 I'm sorry we didn't take more advantage. 1440 01:00:17,875 --> 01:00:21,083 Now that I'm getting a divorce, it feels strange. 1441 01:00:21,208 --> 01:00:24,500 Like, the word "divorce," I still--it's-- 1442 01:00:24,583 --> 01:00:27,125 I'm having a hard time applying it to myself. 1443 01:00:27,208 --> 01:00:29,792 And I think that will just take time 1444 01:00:29,875 --> 01:00:33,708 to really be able to identify myself as a divorced woman. 1445 01:00:33,792 --> 01:00:36,917 But at the same time, I feel powerful in the way 1446 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,750 that I am standing up for the things that I need 1447 01:00:39,833 --> 01:00:42,042 and the things that are really important to me. 1448 01:00:42,125 --> 01:00:43,667 - Take care of yourself. - Yeah, well, thank you. 1449 01:00:43,708 --> 01:00:44,708 - I mean, all around. - Thank you. 1450 01:00:44,792 --> 01:00:45,833 - Yes. - Thank you. 1451 01:00:45,917 --> 01:00:47,125 - OK. - I appreciate it. 1452 01:00:47,208 --> 01:00:48,458 Thank you. - OK. 1453 01:00:48,542 --> 01:00:49,500 - Getting married at first sight 1454 01:00:49,542 --> 01:00:51,833 is a very unique experience. 1455 01:00:51,958 --> 01:00:56,000 And, you know, playing the blame game is not useful 1456 01:00:56,083 --> 01:00:59,250 because you just can't know... [chuckles] 1457 01:00:59,333 --> 01:01:01,083 How this is going to happen. 1458 01:01:01,208 --> 01:01:04,375 And I'm just really glad that Clare and I are leaving 1459 01:01:04,500 --> 01:01:06,542 on relatively good terms. 1460 01:01:06,625 --> 01:01:10,208 And I think that just speaks to our maturity 1461 01:01:10,292 --> 01:01:16,333 and the chances of success in our future marriages. 1462 01:01:16,417 --> 01:01:21,292 - ♪ Too much for us to face the storm together ♪ 1463 01:01:21,375 --> 01:01:25,250 ♪ 1464 01:01:25,375 --> 01:01:28,083 [upbeat music] 1465 01:01:28,208 --> 01:01:33,417 ♪ 1466 01:01:33,542 --> 01:01:35,667 - I don't even know where to begin. 1467 01:01:35,708 --> 01:01:38,500 All I thought Austin and I wanted 1468 01:01:38,583 --> 01:01:40,667 was to be done with the cameras, 1469 01:01:40,708 --> 01:01:42,250 to be done with production. 1470 01:01:42,333 --> 01:01:45,792 And I am at home, and the girls are out. 1471 01:01:45,875 --> 01:01:47,667 Clare and Emily are out. 1472 01:01:47,750 --> 01:01:52,250 And I just got a text from Clare 1473 01:01:52,333 --> 01:01:55,208 and said that they just saw Austin and Brennan out 1474 01:01:55,292 --> 01:01:58,000 with Austin and I's producer, which is funny 1475 01:01:58,083 --> 01:02:01,000 because he's so worried about optics. 1476 01:02:01,042 --> 01:02:03,667 And I don't think he understands that the optics 1477 01:02:03,708 --> 01:02:05,833 do not look good for him. 1478 01:02:05,875 --> 01:02:10,250 And to have it by choice, by Austin's choice at this point, 1479 01:02:10,375 --> 01:02:11,917 is hurtful. 1480 01:02:12,042 --> 01:02:13,958 And I don't really know where to go from here. 1481 01:02:14,042 --> 01:02:16,875 So... 1482 01:02:16,958 --> 01:02:21,167 we have a get-together with everyone tomorrow, and... 1483 01:02:21,250 --> 01:02:23,125 ♪ 1484 01:02:23,208 --> 01:02:23,958 Oh, my God. 1485 01:02:27,792 --> 01:02:29,083 [energetic rock music] 1486 01:02:29,083 --> 01:02:31,958 ♪ 1487 01:02:32,042 --> 01:02:34,083 - Ah, first to the party. 1488 01:02:34,167 --> 01:02:35,708 Let's go. 1489 01:02:35,792 --> 01:02:38,333 I'm excited to see everyone today. 1490 01:02:38,458 --> 01:02:41,750 You know, Decision Day is done and over with. 1491 01:02:41,833 --> 01:02:44,000 Hopefully, we all have, like, the closure 1492 01:02:44,083 --> 01:02:47,583 we need and, like, are all OK with, like, the outcome of it. 1493 01:02:47,667 --> 01:02:49,333 Hey. How you doing? 1494 01:02:49,417 --> 01:02:51,167 - Doing well. 1495 01:02:51,250 --> 01:02:53,417 - You know, I think Becca and I are in a good spot. 1496 01:02:53,542 --> 01:02:57,958 And I'm hoping this is the point in which we're like, 1497 01:02:57,958 --> 01:02:59,583 we know what we want. 1498 01:02:59,708 --> 01:03:00,792 We know what we need. 1499 01:03:00,875 --> 01:03:03,333 We know where we're going. 1500 01:03:03,375 --> 01:03:06,000 And we're kind of, like, riding off into the sunset. 1501 01:03:06,083 --> 01:03:09,333 We're missing--where's Becca? 1502 01:03:09,375 --> 01:03:10,333 - There she is. 1503 01:03:10,458 --> 01:03:12,000 - Look at all you guys. 1504 01:03:12,125 --> 01:03:13,500 - Hi. 1505 01:03:13,583 --> 01:03:14,833 [pop music] 1506 01:03:14,875 --> 01:03:16,375 - Oh. - Hi. 1507 01:03:16,458 --> 01:03:17,667 - Oh, hey. 1508 01:03:17,708 --> 01:03:19,500 - Aw, look it. 1509 01:03:19,542 --> 01:03:21,500 - I'm a little nervous, actually, to hear about 1510 01:03:21,542 --> 01:03:23,292 how everyone's Decision Day went. 1511 01:03:23,375 --> 01:03:26,417 Like, I'm pretty certain that outside of Becca and Austin, 1512 01:03:26,500 --> 01:03:29,458 everyone just reaffirmed that they're getting a divorce. 1513 01:03:29,542 --> 01:03:33,667 So really, for me, it's really just comes down to, 1514 01:03:33,750 --> 01:03:36,333 are Becca and Austin staying married? 1515 01:03:36,417 --> 01:03:38,667 - So how was everyone's day? 1516 01:03:38,792 --> 01:03:40,208 - Good. - Today was a good day. 1517 01:03:40,333 --> 01:03:41,833 - Yeah. - I know. 1518 01:03:41,875 --> 01:03:44,125 - What did you guys do last night? 1519 01:03:44,208 --> 01:03:46,167 - We got dinner, some good Italian. 1520 01:03:46,208 --> 01:03:47,750 - Nice. - Yeah, we got dinner. 1521 01:03:47,875 --> 01:03:50,167 - And then we went to the bar. 1522 01:03:50,208 --> 01:03:51,542 - Had some fun. 1523 01:03:51,625 --> 01:03:53,542 - Austin, did you go out last night? 1524 01:03:53,625 --> 01:03:55,167 Yeah? 1525 01:03:55,208 --> 01:03:57,667 - Yeah. 1526 01:03:57,792 --> 01:03:58,750 It was fun. - Yeah. 1527 01:03:58,875 --> 01:04:00,042 - Yeah. 1528 01:04:00,125 --> 01:04:02,167 - Did you go out with anybody else? 1529 01:04:02,250 --> 01:04:03,708 - Just like, yeah, a whole group. 1530 01:04:03,792 --> 01:04:05,375 - Yeah. - Yeah. 1531 01:04:05,500 --> 01:04:08,833 - Any producers there? 1532 01:04:08,875 --> 01:04:10,458 - No. [intense music] 1533 01:04:10,542 --> 01:04:11,667 - No? 1534 01:04:11,750 --> 01:04:13,167 - I don't know. 1535 01:04:13,250 --> 01:04:15,500 ♪ 1536 01:04:15,583 --> 01:04:17,250 - Do you remember? 1537 01:04:17,333 --> 01:04:21,667 - [chuckles] Are you mad at me for some reason? 1538 01:04:21,750 --> 01:04:23,167 - Did you come into this experience 1539 01:04:23,250 --> 01:04:24,458 for a friendship with a producer 1540 01:04:24,583 --> 01:04:25,667 or for a marriage with me? 1541 01:04:25,750 --> 01:04:27,917 - Oh, wow, OK. 1542 01:04:27,917 --> 01:04:32,042 Definitely came in to it for a marriage with you. 1543 01:04:32,125 --> 01:04:33,958 ♪ 1544 01:04:34,042 --> 01:04:36,417 - And so you thought that going out with a producer 1545 01:04:36,542 --> 01:04:37,708 the night after Decision Day-- 1546 01:04:37,792 --> 01:04:38,750 - I didn't go out with a producer. 1547 01:04:38,875 --> 01:04:40,250 - No? - No, I did not. 1548 01:04:40,333 --> 01:04:41,750 - So who were you out with? - OK. 1549 01:04:41,833 --> 01:04:43,333 I'm sorry. Hold on. 1550 01:04:43,375 --> 01:04:44,708 - You can't just sit there and lie like that. 1551 01:04:44,792 --> 01:04:45,833 - This is where I chime in. 1552 01:04:45,875 --> 01:04:47,958 That's not factual at all. 1553 01:04:48,042 --> 01:04:49,750 - I-- - Let's just be honest. 1554 01:04:49,875 --> 01:04:51,125 - Just be honest. Let's just be honest. 1555 01:04:51,208 --> 01:04:53,208 - We all ran into each other last night. 1556 01:04:53,292 --> 01:04:54,833 - And then, what, you just, like, 1557 01:04:54,917 --> 01:04:57,500 saw her for a little bit and then left? 1558 01:04:57,542 --> 01:04:58,833 - I don't know, Becca. 1559 01:04:58,875 --> 01:05:00,250 - You do know. 1560 01:05:00,333 --> 01:05:02,000 - You're putting me in a tough position. 1561 01:05:02,083 --> 01:05:03,542 - Oh, I'm putting you in a tough position? 1562 01:05:03,667 --> 01:05:05,458 I'm not the one in a tough position when literally 1563 01:05:05,542 --> 01:05:08,875 yesterday I said that a large reason why I was saying 1564 01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,000 maybe no to our marriage was because I cannot tell 1565 01:05:11,083 --> 01:05:12,833 what is reality and what is fake with you. 1566 01:05:12,875 --> 01:05:14,167 - Nothing is fake with me. 1567 01:05:14,292 --> 01:05:16,083 - So then why haven't you been honest with me? 1568 01:05:16,208 --> 01:05:17,542 - When have I ever said anything 1569 01:05:17,625 --> 01:05:19,917 defamatory or, like, bad, 1570 01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:23,042 or anything that would insult you in any way? 1571 01:05:23,125 --> 01:05:24,417 - What about the dignity-- - I always have your back. 1572 01:05:24,500 --> 01:05:25,917 - Of our marriage? 1573 01:05:26,042 --> 01:05:27,250 What about, literally, you and I, 1574 01:05:27,375 --> 01:05:28,833 the sanctity of our marriage and honesty? 1575 01:05:28,958 --> 01:05:31,208 - What does that have to do with a producer? 1576 01:05:31,292 --> 01:05:33,833 - Because that has been the rift in our relationship, 1577 01:05:33,917 --> 01:05:35,792 on top of religion, on top of intimacy, 1578 01:05:35,875 --> 01:05:36,917 on top of everything else. 1579 01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:38,208 And I made that clear to you. 1580 01:05:38,333 --> 01:05:40,167 And you decided that the path forward 1581 01:05:40,250 --> 01:05:42,333 and the path to healing was to go spend time with her. 1582 01:05:42,375 --> 01:05:44,333 - I told you, ran into them. Just happened. 1583 01:05:44,375 --> 01:05:45,750 - You didn't run into them, Austin. 1584 01:05:45,833 --> 01:05:49,167 I'm not a [bleep] dumb bitch. 1585 01:05:49,208 --> 01:05:50,500 Did you think when you were out-- 1586 01:05:50,583 --> 01:05:52,042 - Why? 1587 01:05:52,125 --> 01:05:54,167 - Did you think about how it would impact me? 1588 01:05:54,250 --> 01:05:57,750 - [sighs] I didn't think that it would be a problem. 1589 01:05:57,833 --> 01:05:59,833 - Then that is-- that says everything. 1590 01:05:59,875 --> 01:06:01,417 - That is the problem. That is the problem. 1591 01:06:01,500 --> 01:06:02,667 - By the way, I've been calm, cool, and collected 1592 01:06:02,792 --> 01:06:04,292 this entire [bleep] season. 1593 01:06:04,375 --> 01:06:06,500 So the fact that I'm riled up is really saying something. 1594 01:06:06,583 --> 01:06:08,042 I feel like-- 1595 01:06:08,125 --> 01:06:09,167 - [softly] That's not even true. 1596 01:06:09,250 --> 01:06:10,500 - That's not true? - It's not true. 1597 01:06:10,500 --> 01:06:12,000 - OK. 1598 01:06:12,083 --> 01:06:13,667 - Becca, you have admitted to being 1599 01:06:13,792 --> 01:06:15,333 a very sensitive and emotional person. 1600 01:06:15,375 --> 01:06:17,292 This-- - But that's not a bad thing. 1601 01:06:17,375 --> 01:06:19,542 [overlapping arguing] - Whoa, I'm not saying it's-- 1602 01:06:19,667 --> 01:06:21,917 - Hold on, hold on, hold on. 1603 01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:23,792 - Maybe you should be more sensitive. 1604 01:06:23,875 --> 01:06:25,208 - I'm trying. 1605 01:06:25,333 --> 01:06:26,875 But that doesn't mean you have been 1606 01:06:26,958 --> 01:06:28,292 calm, cool, and collected. 1607 01:06:28,375 --> 01:06:29,833 Every time there is an argument, 1608 01:06:29,917 --> 01:06:32,167 you go to this fight-or-flight mode. 1609 01:06:32,250 --> 01:06:34,250 - Do you know what's funny about that is that in therapy 1610 01:06:34,333 --> 01:06:36,375 I've realized that my fight or flight is triggered 1611 01:06:36,458 --> 01:06:38,458 when I'm not in a secure, safe space. 1612 01:06:38,542 --> 01:06:39,958 - Exactly. 1613 01:06:40,042 --> 01:06:41,167 - And what I figured out is that my secure, 1614 01:06:41,250 --> 01:06:42,917 safe space is not with you. 1615 01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:44,667 [intense music] 1616 01:06:44,750 --> 01:06:46,625 Because of so many trust issues and last night--the fact that 1617 01:06:46,708 --> 01:06:48,667 you even were lying about it right here with me right now, 1618 01:06:48,750 --> 01:06:50,125 and you are continuing to lie 1619 01:06:50,208 --> 01:06:51,958 about different aspects of it, tell me that I was-- 1620 01:06:52,042 --> 01:06:53,625 my intuition was correct. 1621 01:06:53,708 --> 01:06:55,250 You have always been more concerned about optics 1622 01:06:55,375 --> 01:06:58,458 than our marriage. - That's not true. 1623 01:06:58,542 --> 01:07:00,167 - All of the men here have been more concerned-- 1624 01:07:00,250 --> 01:07:01,250 sorry, Michael, I don't know about you. 1625 01:07:01,333 --> 01:07:02,333 - That's all right. That's all right. 1626 01:07:02,417 --> 01:07:03,417 - Everyone care about how they come off 1627 01:07:03,542 --> 01:07:05,083 when they are on camera. 1628 01:07:05,208 --> 01:07:06,417 - And the one thing that was missing from our relationship, 1629 01:07:06,542 --> 01:07:08,417 and why I was going to say no on Decision Day, 1630 01:07:08,500 --> 01:07:09,958 was because of trust, because I couldn't trust 1631 01:07:09,958 --> 01:07:11,667 the authenticity between us. 1632 01:07:11,750 --> 01:07:13,875 And this has now officially shot it to hell. 1633 01:07:13,958 --> 01:07:16,375 ♪ 1634 01:07:20,292 --> 01:07:22,667 - My priority was misplaced. 1635 01:07:22,708 --> 01:07:25,667 And it wasn't, like, an intentional thing. But-- 1636 01:07:25,750 --> 01:07:27,000 - And that has been a pattern in our relationship, 1637 01:07:27,167 --> 01:07:28,250 where I am not the priority. 1638 01:07:28,333 --> 01:07:31,167 - OK. - Your own being, 1639 01:07:31,208 --> 01:07:33,292 whoever you are, is the priority. 1640 01:07:33,375 --> 01:07:34,708 And here's the thing. 1641 01:07:34,833 --> 01:07:36,375 I never want you to lose that. 1642 01:07:36,458 --> 01:07:39,625 Like, I think that you will find someone who truly is 1643 01:07:39,708 --> 01:07:41,333 even more independent than me, 1644 01:07:41,375 --> 01:07:42,917 which I didn't even know existed, 1645 01:07:43,042 --> 01:07:45,542 not as emotional, not as sensitive. 1646 01:07:45,625 --> 01:07:46,875 I am all of those things, 1647 01:07:46,958 --> 01:07:48,167 and that has not worked in your favor. 1648 01:07:48,167 --> 01:07:50,208 But, like, at this point now, I have given you 1649 01:07:50,292 --> 01:07:52,250 so many chances to make me the priority. 1650 01:07:52,333 --> 01:07:54,583 And time and time again, I am not. 1651 01:07:54,708 --> 01:07:55,958 ♪ 1652 01:07:56,042 --> 01:07:57,500 - So what are you saying, Becca? 1653 01:07:57,583 --> 01:08:02,333 ♪ 1654 01:08:02,375 --> 01:08:03,833 - I'm saying a lot of heated things 1655 01:08:03,917 --> 01:08:06,708 because I'm really angry. 1656 01:08:06,833 --> 01:08:09,333 It's been really hard to, like, sparse reality from fiction. 1657 01:08:09,458 --> 01:08:12,167 And all I wanted in Austin was, like, 1658 01:08:12,250 --> 01:08:14,167 that one person who will be true with you 1659 01:08:14,208 --> 01:08:15,417 throughout all of this. 1660 01:08:15,500 --> 01:08:17,500 And that's not what I've gotten. 1661 01:08:17,542 --> 01:08:19,458 [gentle music] 1662 01:08:19,458 --> 01:08:22,292 - I have-- 1663 01:08:22,292 --> 01:08:24,250 I'm not saying I have successfully done so. 1664 01:08:24,333 --> 01:08:27,792 But I have really tried to be that person 1665 01:08:27,875 --> 01:08:30,167 for you in every capacity. 1666 01:08:30,208 --> 01:08:32,125 And it hurts. 1667 01:08:32,125 --> 01:08:33,667 It sucks to hear you say that, 1668 01:08:33,750 --> 01:08:36,250 like, I haven't been that person because I thought 1669 01:08:36,333 --> 01:08:37,833 I was doing a good job. 1670 01:08:37,958 --> 01:08:40,083 And I thought the things that I was struggling with, 1671 01:08:40,167 --> 01:08:41,333 I was improving on. 1672 01:08:41,417 --> 01:08:45,667 But you don't feel that way. 1673 01:08:45,750 --> 01:08:50,000 And I don't know what to do. 1674 01:08:50,042 --> 01:08:53,583 ♪ 1675 01:08:53,667 --> 01:08:57,125 Our relationship has gone to an unhealthy place. 1676 01:08:57,208 --> 01:08:59,667 And I don't know if it can be-- 1677 01:08:59,708 --> 01:09:02,583 I don't know. Like, I don't know what to do. 1678 01:09:02,667 --> 01:09:04,375 - What I heard you just say is that you 1679 01:09:04,458 --> 01:09:06,917 no longer think we should try working on this because-- 1680 01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:10,417 - I don't--no, I said, I don't know if we can get over this. 1681 01:09:10,542 --> 01:09:12,625 I don't know if we can get through it. 1682 01:09:12,708 --> 01:09:15,375 ♪ 1683 01:09:17,375 --> 01:09:19,875 - I think, Becca, this is an important time for you 1684 01:09:19,958 --> 01:09:21,917 because I feel like you went in very maybe strong 1685 01:09:22,042 --> 01:09:23,417 on how you felt, so do you-- - You did. 1686 01:09:23,500 --> 01:09:26,167 - Feel like after today, like, 1687 01:09:26,208 --> 01:09:28,042 does it feel like the right time to, like, 1688 01:09:28,125 --> 01:09:33,167 take your voice, to change your decision after how today went? 1689 01:09:33,208 --> 01:09:34,625 Or do you feel-- still feel the same? 1690 01:09:34,708 --> 01:09:37,458 - I feel more confused than ever. 1691 01:09:37,542 --> 01:09:42,083 If I was concerned about the trust between us before, 1692 01:09:42,208 --> 01:09:44,042 I'm more concerned about it now. 1693 01:09:44,125 --> 01:09:46,000 - And I will say, I don't want to interfere 1694 01:09:46,042 --> 01:09:47,542 with what's going on here. 1695 01:09:47,667 --> 01:09:49,917 But I do feel like there is this theme of being silenced. 1696 01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:53,042 Like, there are many moments in our marriages where, like, 1697 01:09:53,167 --> 01:09:54,958 at different times, we were silenced. 1698 01:09:55,042 --> 01:09:57,917 So for example, like, with the Brennan and Emily stuff, 1699 01:09:58,000 --> 01:09:59,583 when I brought that up, 1700 01:09:59,667 --> 01:10:01,667 I felt like you were mad at me for speaking up. 1701 01:10:01,750 --> 01:10:03,958 And I felt like-- [overlapping speech] 1702 01:10:04,042 --> 01:10:05,542 And I'm not gonna stay silent about things that I-- 1703 01:10:05,625 --> 01:10:07,667 I am--are hurting other people. 1704 01:10:07,708 --> 01:10:09,833 - I would like to address the topic of you being silenced, 1705 01:10:09,917 --> 01:10:12,125 Clare, that you just said. 1706 01:10:12,208 --> 01:10:15,875 In our marriage, who was the one being silenced? 1707 01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:17,083 [intense music] 1708 01:10:17,167 --> 01:10:19,125 - What do you mean? 1709 01:10:19,208 --> 01:10:20,542 Who was the one being silenced? 1710 01:10:20,625 --> 01:10:22,333 - Yeah. - What--what do you mean? 1711 01:10:22,417 --> 01:10:24,417 There are conversations that we have 1712 01:10:24,417 --> 01:10:26,167 in secrecy that say-- that are not important 1713 01:10:26,250 --> 01:10:27,542 for everybody else to hear. 1714 01:10:27,708 --> 01:10:28,833 That's a different thing here, though. 1715 01:10:28,875 --> 01:10:30,250 - No, it's not. 1716 01:10:30,375 --> 01:10:31,500 - That wasn't-- it is a different thing. 1717 01:10:31,542 --> 01:10:34,292 - I'm not going to stand for you saying that 1718 01:10:34,375 --> 01:10:36,792 I silenced you in any way. 1719 01:10:36,875 --> 01:10:38,292 - I think in their-- in this situation-- 1720 01:10:38,375 --> 01:10:40,667 - I supported everything you've ever said. 1721 01:10:40,750 --> 01:10:42,292 - And I agree. 1722 01:10:42,375 --> 01:10:44,333 Up until that point is when I felt silenced. 1723 01:10:44,417 --> 01:10:46,417 And I'm just telling you my feelings, 1724 01:10:46,500 --> 01:10:48,875 which I feel like you're not always receptive to hearing. 1725 01:10:48,958 --> 01:10:50,667 And on that comment, 1726 01:10:50,792 --> 01:10:52,917 is there something you want to say to Emily? 1727 01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:56,250 - I said that I didn't feel it was appropriate 1728 01:10:56,333 --> 01:10:57,625 to get involved 1729 01:10:57,708 --> 01:11:00,458 in Emily and Brennan's relationship. 1730 01:11:00,542 --> 01:11:03,083 Now, to clear the air, 1731 01:11:03,167 --> 01:11:06,750 I was the instigator, not Brennan. 1732 01:11:06,875 --> 01:11:10,625 I was the one that said, after all this, let's go out. 1733 01:11:10,708 --> 01:11:13,500 Let's have a good time. Let's go on a double date. 1734 01:11:13,583 --> 01:11:16,500 Let's have--let's enjoy-- - But it wasn't after all this. 1735 01:11:16,583 --> 01:11:17,917 He asked you in the moment. 1736 01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:19,625 And he said, do you want to go on a double date? 1737 01:11:19,708 --> 01:11:21,167 - That's-- - And that's me twisting? 1738 01:11:21,208 --> 01:11:22,917 That's not true. - No, no, no, no, no, no. 1739 01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:28,125 That is clearly a potential misunderstanding between who-- 1740 01:11:28,208 --> 01:11:29,667 - It's not a misunderstanding. 1741 01:11:29,708 --> 01:11:31,000 - However--it could have been between me and Brennan. 1742 01:11:31,125 --> 01:11:32,875 - I'm sorry, Cameron. Every time-- 1743 01:11:32,958 --> 01:11:35,333 every time you say something that really hurts my feelings, 1744 01:11:35,375 --> 01:11:36,583 you just say, it was a misunderstanding. 1745 01:11:36,708 --> 01:11:37,667 - Let's agree. 1746 01:11:37,750 --> 01:11:40,833 On more than 20 occasions, at least-- 1747 01:11:40,875 --> 01:11:42,708 - We have misunderstood each other, yes. 1748 01:11:42,792 --> 01:11:45,750 - We have come together and repeated the same conversation 1749 01:11:45,833 --> 01:11:48,333 to each other, in private, on camera, wherever the [bleep]. 1750 01:11:48,375 --> 01:11:49,958 And they're different--and they're different stories. 1751 01:11:50,042 --> 01:11:52,250 And it's like a genuine experience between you and me. 1752 01:11:52,333 --> 01:11:54,000 - It is. That is a genuine experience. 1753 01:11:54,042 --> 01:11:56,375 However, you know that you are lying right now. 1754 01:11:56,500 --> 01:11:58,125 Our whole experience doesn't--does not-- 1755 01:11:58,125 --> 01:11:59,750 - [scoffs] 1756 01:11:59,875 --> 01:12:02,000 - That is not a indicator of that conversation. 1757 01:12:02,042 --> 01:12:04,042 - I can never win this. I'm always the bad guy. 1758 01:12:04,125 --> 01:12:05,333 - That's the same response he has. 1759 01:12:05,417 --> 01:12:06,875 He can never win. - That's the same one for him. 1760 01:12:06,958 --> 01:12:08,583 He's tried everything. - You can never win, OK? 1761 01:12:08,667 --> 01:12:10,000 - So let's--it's the same thing. 1762 01:12:10,083 --> 01:12:11,208 - Like, I'm literally-- - Please. 1763 01:12:11,292 --> 01:12:12,750 Please stop. Please stop. 1764 01:12:12,833 --> 01:12:14,375 - I've literally lied every single day 1765 01:12:14,458 --> 01:12:16,167 of this [bleep] marriage to protect her. 1766 01:12:16,250 --> 01:12:18,333 Do not get on a [bleep] high horse with me. 1767 01:12:18,375 --> 01:12:19,792 - Oh, really? 1768 01:12:19,875 --> 01:12:21,417 Because it seems like every male has seemed 1769 01:12:21,500 --> 01:12:23,375 to have to protect us, when you thought 1770 01:12:23,500 --> 01:12:26,292 you protected us, you have hurt us round and round, 1771 01:12:26,375 --> 01:12:28,083 round and round, and look at where we're at. 1772 01:12:28,167 --> 01:12:29,667 We don't need [bleep] protecting, OK? 1773 01:12:29,792 --> 01:12:31,333 We don't. 1774 01:12:31,333 --> 01:12:32,417 And so what you think is-- 1775 01:12:32,500 --> 01:12:34,667 - I was asked for protection. 1776 01:12:34,750 --> 01:12:37,042 I was asked to give protection. 1777 01:12:37,167 --> 01:12:39,417 - You--we were asked to just-- - To protect the marriage. 1778 01:12:39,542 --> 01:12:41,875 - To protect the marriage, to protect the marriage. 1779 01:12:41,958 --> 01:12:43,375 - To protect you. 1780 01:12:43,500 --> 01:12:44,875 - Right, and that's what we did for each other. 1781 01:12:44,958 --> 01:12:47,333 - Are you protecting her right now by lying? 1782 01:12:47,458 --> 01:12:49,125 - He's not lying. 1783 01:12:49,208 --> 01:12:50,875 - I'm not lying. I'm not lying right now. 1784 01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:52,708 - OK, I'm gonna let you guys sit there in bliss and-- 1785 01:12:52,833 --> 01:12:53,833 - Like, why can't there just be a version of this-- 1786 01:12:53,917 --> 01:12:55,458 - Because all your versions are incorrect. 1787 01:12:55,542 --> 01:12:56,917 They've changed that many times. 1788 01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:58,542 - But why can't we just, like, agree to disagree and say, 1789 01:12:58,625 --> 01:12:59,292 maybe there was a miscommunication. 1790 01:12:59,375 --> 01:13:01,000 - Cameron-- 1791 01:13:01,042 --> 01:13:02,417 - And we don't put blame on each other and just, like, 1792 01:13:02,500 --> 01:13:03,875 say, OK, it's OK. 1793 01:13:03,958 --> 01:13:05,375 - I wasn't lied to. 1794 01:13:05,458 --> 01:13:06,167 - As opposed to us just sitting here fighting 1795 01:13:06,292 --> 01:13:07,667 and getting nowhere. 1796 01:13:07,708 --> 01:13:09,167 - Oh, you don't think we've gotten anywhere? 1797 01:13:09,250 --> 01:13:11,000 - Right now-- - By being heard? 1798 01:13:11,042 --> 01:13:13,500 - No. Whoa, I'm saying, right now, where as she's saying, 1799 01:13:13,583 --> 01:13:14,958 you're lying, you're lying, you're lying. 1800 01:13:15,042 --> 01:13:16,667 Is that us getting somewhere? - Well, you are. 1801 01:13:16,792 --> 01:13:18,417 - Well, because we're not gonna agree because-- 1802 01:13:18,500 --> 01:13:20,000 If you're gonna lie, you're gonna lie. 1803 01:13:20,042 --> 01:13:21,500 - I mean, I've heard seven different versions of this. 1804 01:13:21,583 --> 01:13:22,833 So I know it's just not the truth. 1805 01:13:22,958 --> 01:13:24,083 - And lying seems to be just a common thread. 1806 01:13:24,208 --> 01:13:26,042 - Yes. 1807 01:13:26,042 --> 01:13:30,208 ♪ 1808 01:13:30,292 --> 01:13:35,000 - To be accused of silencing Clare, 1809 01:13:35,083 --> 01:13:39,500 when all of our off-camera conversations 1810 01:13:39,583 --> 01:13:44,417 are her telling me what I can and cannot say 1811 01:13:44,542 --> 01:13:48,375 per these secrets that she has revealed to me 1812 01:13:48,458 --> 01:13:52,333 is so hypocritical. 1813 01:13:52,333 --> 01:13:54,583 And by the way, the fact that she's not attracted to me, 1814 01:13:54,667 --> 01:13:56,292 that's one of those things that she told me 1815 01:13:56,375 --> 01:13:57,750 that I couldn't say out loud. 1816 01:13:57,875 --> 01:14:00,167 Nope. Oh, there we go. I just broke a promise. 1817 01:14:00,167 --> 01:14:03,000 I mean, I literally just walked away from the group. 1818 01:14:03,042 --> 01:14:05,167 And I'm getting text messages right now 1819 01:14:05,208 --> 01:14:09,875 of her trying to make sure that I don't let her secrets out. 1820 01:14:09,875 --> 01:14:11,750 - Did he text you back? - No. 1821 01:14:11,833 --> 01:14:15,083 - Clare has been manipulating me from day one. 1822 01:14:15,208 --> 01:14:19,833 And I just--I couldn't take one more second of Clare 1823 01:14:19,917 --> 01:14:22,750 yet again accusing me of wrongdoing, 1824 01:14:22,833 --> 01:14:26,000 when, like, if we were in-- 1825 01:14:26,125 --> 01:14:28,958 if we were in, like, the public courts system, 1826 01:14:29,042 --> 01:14:31,417 I'd be in jail for stealing a candy bar. 1827 01:14:31,500 --> 01:14:33,250 And she'd be in jail for murder. 1828 01:14:33,375 --> 01:14:36,583 ♪ 1829 01:14:40,375 --> 01:14:41,958 [slow pop music] 1830 01:14:42,042 --> 01:14:43,208 ♪ 1831 01:14:43,292 --> 01:14:45,250 - Where is Cameron? - I don't know. 1832 01:14:45,375 --> 01:14:47,333 I don't--I don't-- I think he left. 1833 01:14:47,417 --> 01:14:49,167 I don't-- 1834 01:14:49,208 --> 01:14:50,417 - I imagine... - Anyway. 1835 01:14:50,500 --> 01:14:52,125 - Stress and the heart probably don't-- 1836 01:14:52,208 --> 01:14:53,625 - Yes. Yeah. 1837 01:14:53,708 --> 01:14:55,250 - Mix well together. - Yeah, no, yeah. 1838 01:14:55,333 --> 01:14:57,417 - Heart condition. 1839 01:14:57,542 --> 01:14:59,708 - Yeah. 1840 01:14:59,792 --> 01:15:02,667 - Well, all you guys had your Decision Days. 1841 01:15:02,708 --> 01:15:05,333 So now that that has concluded, like, 1842 01:15:05,458 --> 01:15:06,792 what's next for you guys? 1843 01:15:06,875 --> 01:15:09,250 - That's the question. Yeah, what's next? 1844 01:15:09,333 --> 01:15:12,250 - So for me, I'm gonna take a lot of time to self-reflect 1845 01:15:12,333 --> 01:15:16,750 and, you know, really dig deep and find the things 1846 01:15:16,833 --> 01:15:21,000 that I need to work on and grow from and be better off with. 1847 01:15:21,042 --> 01:15:23,000 And I don't know how much time that's gonna take. 1848 01:15:23,083 --> 01:15:27,167 But it's gonna be quite the journey. 1849 01:15:27,250 --> 01:15:30,500 So gonna be going on it, for sure. 1850 01:15:30,583 --> 01:15:33,417 [gentle music] 1851 01:15:33,542 --> 01:15:36,167 - I'm gonna come over here because I really want to 1852 01:15:36,250 --> 01:15:38,250 make sure you hear me on this. 1853 01:15:38,375 --> 01:15:43,792 ♪ 1854 01:15:43,875 --> 01:15:45,917 Because of what happened, like, I know I have accountability. 1855 01:15:46,042 --> 01:15:48,333 And I made mistakes. I was not perfect through this. 1856 01:15:48,417 --> 01:15:49,667 Like, you also need to know that. 1857 01:15:49,750 --> 01:15:52,292 And you know that I know that 1858 01:15:52,375 --> 01:15:55,458 because I know how this ended for us is very, very, very, 1859 01:15:55,542 --> 01:15:57,667 very sad. 1860 01:15:57,708 --> 01:15:59,583 [tearfully] It's very delicate. 1861 01:15:59,667 --> 01:16:01,958 And it impacts us both differently. 1862 01:16:02,042 --> 01:16:04,167 But, like, it's gonna hurt us both a lot. 1863 01:16:04,292 --> 01:16:05,833 - Yeah. 1864 01:16:05,875 --> 01:16:07,208 - And I really want you to know that, like, 1865 01:16:07,292 --> 01:16:09,208 I know I was not perfect in this, 1866 01:16:09,292 --> 01:16:11,125 in lot of different ways. 1867 01:16:11,208 --> 01:16:13,208 [sniffles] And I need you to know that. 1868 01:16:13,292 --> 01:16:14,417 Like, it's not all on you. 1869 01:16:14,500 --> 01:16:16,042 It's really not. 1870 01:16:16,042 --> 01:16:19,000 - I appreciate that. 1871 01:16:19,083 --> 01:16:22,833 And I hope, like, we can just be civil 1872 01:16:22,958 --> 01:16:26,583 and, like, just appreciate each other for this. 1873 01:16:26,667 --> 01:16:31,417 It was--there was a lot of good, a lot of good. 1874 01:16:31,500 --> 01:16:33,583 - And I think we have a decision to make 1875 01:16:33,708 --> 01:16:36,083 of just how we take what was pretty traumatic 1876 01:16:36,208 --> 01:16:37,333 and, like, really-- 1877 01:16:37,375 --> 01:16:38,500 we have a chance to, like, really 1878 01:16:38,583 --> 01:16:40,375 be better people from it. 1879 01:16:40,375 --> 01:16:42,750 ♪ 1880 01:16:42,833 --> 01:16:44,792 - Shall we squash it? - No. 1881 01:16:44,875 --> 01:16:46,875 Not-- - Come on. 1882 01:16:46,958 --> 01:16:48,208 - This is not squashed. - OK. 1883 01:16:48,292 --> 01:16:49,750 - This is not squashed. 1884 01:16:49,833 --> 01:16:50,958 - All right. - That was a great speech. 1885 01:16:51,042 --> 01:16:51,833 - But-- 1886 01:16:51,958 --> 01:16:52,958 - All right, that's a start. 1887 01:16:52,958 --> 01:16:54,625 It's a start. - It's a start. 1888 01:16:54,708 --> 01:16:56,833 - And to piggyback off of y'all, 1889 01:16:56,958 --> 01:16:59,125 this has been a beautiful experience. 1890 01:16:59,208 --> 01:17:02,500 And I am looking forward to the growth that comes after this. 1891 01:17:02,625 --> 01:17:05,917 And I've expressed this to Orion via text a lot. 1892 01:17:06,042 --> 01:17:07,458 I mean, I think you know I care about you. 1893 01:17:07,542 --> 01:17:08,583 I wanted to-- - Yeah. 1894 01:17:08,667 --> 01:17:10,083 - Reach out to check on you. 1895 01:17:10,208 --> 01:17:11,875 And I just feel like we did miss the mark. 1896 01:17:11,958 --> 01:17:13,750 And it could have been something beautiful. 1897 01:17:13,833 --> 01:17:15,750 And you say you want a friendship. 1898 01:17:15,833 --> 01:17:17,167 If you want it, you can have it. 1899 01:17:17,292 --> 01:17:18,458 It's there. 1900 01:17:18,542 --> 01:17:21,750 It's on the table, as we have said. 1901 01:17:21,875 --> 01:17:23,250 - Has everybody heard that? 1902 01:17:23,375 --> 01:17:24,500 I'm gonna take you up on that. 1903 01:17:24,583 --> 01:17:27,208 - It's on--it's back on the table. 1904 01:17:27,292 --> 01:17:31,958 However, you got to pick up the knife and cut the cake. 1905 01:17:32,042 --> 01:17:33,833 - All right. - Cut the cake, baby. 1906 01:17:33,917 --> 01:17:36,375 [chuckling] That's us. 1907 01:17:36,500 --> 01:17:39,125 How is--can I-- can I ask a question? 1908 01:17:39,208 --> 01:17:40,667 - For sure. Fire away. 1909 01:17:40,750 --> 01:17:44,625 - How is the relationship progressing between you all? 1910 01:17:44,708 --> 01:17:46,208 - You know what? 1911 01:17:46,292 --> 01:17:49,083 We are just--we are just in a really positive place. 1912 01:17:49,208 --> 01:17:51,708 Like, I feel like we've really leaned in 1913 01:17:51,708 --> 01:17:55,458 to accepting each other for exactly who we are. 1914 01:17:55,542 --> 01:18:01,125 And we are excited to see what's ahead 1915 01:18:01,208 --> 01:18:04,125 and all of the things that might come with that. 1916 01:18:04,208 --> 01:18:05,708 So-- 1917 01:18:05,792 --> 01:18:06,833 - I mean, you just might as well soak it up now. 1918 01:18:06,917 --> 01:18:09,333 I've said it on-- I've said it before. 1919 01:18:09,417 --> 01:18:11,042 You know, I think I shine. 1920 01:18:11,125 --> 01:18:13,500 But I'm a candle in a sun compared to her. 1921 01:18:13,625 --> 01:18:15,000 - Aw. 1922 01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:16,042 - I will not back away from the idea. 1923 01:18:16,125 --> 01:18:18,000 Like, I do believe-- - [chuckles] 1924 01:18:18,042 --> 01:18:21,375 - Honestly, I do believe you're a much better human than I am 1925 01:18:21,458 --> 01:18:23,833 in terms of what your-- the impact you're gonna make 1926 01:18:23,833 --> 01:18:25,542 on this world versus me, 1927 01:18:25,625 --> 01:18:27,708 you are a much better human than I am. 1928 01:18:27,833 --> 01:18:30,417 But that's part of what I celebrate. 1929 01:18:30,500 --> 01:18:32,667 You know, I celebrate the fact that you're a better human. 1930 01:18:32,750 --> 01:18:36,417 You continue to teach me how to be selfless. 1931 01:18:36,500 --> 01:18:39,667 And I will continue to show my doctorate in selfishness-- 1932 01:18:39,750 --> 01:18:41,083 - OK. 1933 01:18:41,167 --> 01:18:42,000 - And teach you how to be selfish. 1934 01:18:42,083 --> 01:18:43,250 - Yeah. 1935 01:18:43,333 --> 01:18:45,042 - God, you guys are disgustingly cute. 1936 01:18:45,125 --> 01:18:46,500 - I was about to say, like, you're gonna make me cry again. 1937 01:18:46,542 --> 01:18:49,167 - [chuckles] - [sighs] 1938 01:18:49,250 --> 01:18:53,500 - It is extremely refreshing to see your emotional awareness, 1939 01:18:53,583 --> 01:18:56,417 your emotional integrity. 1940 01:18:56,500 --> 01:19:01,583 And I think this process has 1941 01:19:01,667 --> 01:19:05,208 put a spotlight on a lot of my weak spots 1942 01:19:05,292 --> 01:19:06,958 that I need to work on. 1943 01:19:07,042 --> 01:19:09,458 But it's also made me realize the way that those weak spots 1944 01:19:09,542 --> 01:19:12,042 can be triggered in situations 1945 01:19:12,125 --> 01:19:15,208 that aren't filling me or serving me. 1946 01:19:15,292 --> 01:19:18,458 - Are you looking to build a bridge? 1947 01:19:18,542 --> 01:19:22,958 - I think that for me... 1948 01:19:23,042 --> 01:19:25,167 ♪ 1949 01:19:25,250 --> 01:19:30,042 Many issues were built upon each other. 1950 01:19:30,125 --> 01:19:35,083 And it's now compounding to a point where, like, 1951 01:19:35,167 --> 01:19:39,167 if I can't trust him, I already have issues with intimacy. 1952 01:19:39,208 --> 01:19:41,250 We have differences in religion. 1953 01:19:41,333 --> 01:19:42,958 We have a lot going on. 1954 01:19:43,042 --> 01:19:47,042 And if I now have proof that he has lied to me... 1955 01:19:47,042 --> 01:19:49,500 ♪ 1956 01:19:49,583 --> 01:19:50,708 There might be a bridge in the future. 1957 01:19:50,708 --> 01:19:53,417 But, like, I need to heal 1958 01:19:53,500 --> 01:19:56,833 and learn to trust myself and my intuition again. 1959 01:19:56,875 --> 01:20:01,750 I think he is going to be the perfect guy for someone. 1960 01:20:01,833 --> 01:20:03,875 I don't think it's me. 1961 01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:07,833 [Nik Ammar's "Come To An End"] 1962 01:20:07,875 --> 01:20:09,625 - ♪ The fire is out 1963 01:20:09,708 --> 01:20:11,708 ♪ It's just a dying ember 1964 01:20:11,792 --> 01:20:15,333 ♪ I thought we were gonna last forever ♪ 1965 01:20:15,417 --> 01:20:18,000 ♪ Then you said, well, all good things ♪ 1966 01:20:18,083 --> 01:20:21,333 ♪ Must come to an end 1967 01:20:21,500 --> 01:20:26,167 - Blindsided--I feel, yeah, very blindsided. 1968 01:20:26,208 --> 01:20:27,542 - [vocalizing] 1969 01:20:27,625 --> 01:20:29,000 - I-- 1970 01:20:29,083 --> 01:20:31,708 ♪ 1971 01:20:31,833 --> 01:20:33,708 - ♪ Now I see you were scared ♪ 1972 01:20:33,792 --> 01:20:35,833 - I don't know what to do. 1973 01:20:35,875 --> 01:20:37,917 - ♪ Of losing everything 1974 01:20:38,042 --> 01:20:41,833 ♪ Our love turned to rust 1975 01:20:41,875 --> 01:20:45,083 ♪ Broken hearts to dust 1976 01:20:45,167 --> 01:20:49,250 - [tearfully] I love Austin as a person, 1977 01:20:49,333 --> 01:20:51,333 as a human who's walking on this planet. 1978 01:20:51,417 --> 01:20:54,667 I think he makes this world a better place. 1979 01:20:54,833 --> 01:20:58,583 But I just have to, like, know when, 1980 01:20:58,708 --> 01:21:00,792 like, I'm not it for him. 1981 01:21:00,875 --> 01:21:03,792 And I feel like the responsibility 1982 01:21:03,875 --> 01:21:06,958 is on me to see that. 1983 01:21:07,042 --> 01:21:10,667 - ♪ All good things 1984 01:21:10,792 --> 01:21:13,375 ♪ All good things 1985 01:21:13,458 --> 01:21:16,667 ♪ All good things must come to an end ♪ 1986 01:21:16,750 --> 01:21:19,458 ♪ 1987 01:21:19,542 --> 01:21:20,875 - ♪ I'ma take you down 1988 01:21:20,958 --> 01:21:23,417 - Next time on "Married at First Sight"... 1989 01:21:23,500 --> 01:21:25,500 - Do you want to be more than friends? 1990 01:21:25,583 --> 01:21:27,458 - Honestly, I think that would be a huge benefit-- 1991 01:21:27,542 --> 01:21:28,708 - Yeah. - Regardless. 1992 01:21:28,792 --> 01:21:30,167 - For three of our couples, 1993 01:21:30,250 --> 01:21:32,833 the story continues beyond Decision Day. 1994 01:21:32,917 --> 01:21:34,667 - How are you feeling about moving out? 1995 01:21:34,750 --> 01:21:36,000 - Like, I just don't really know 1996 01:21:36,083 --> 01:21:37,083 what to expect, like, if I'm gonna, like, 1997 01:21:37,167 --> 01:21:39,167 have a meltdown anytime soon. 1998 01:21:39,250 --> 01:21:41,750 - I really have no intentions of ever speaking to her again. 1999 01:21:41,833 --> 01:21:43,167 - Oh, [bleep]. 2000 01:21:43,292 --> 01:21:45,208 - Do you have any regrets about the whole thing? 2001 01:21:45,292 --> 01:21:46,875 - Uh... 2002 01:21:46,958 --> 01:21:50,792 - I reached out to Becca, and that was a mistake. 2003 01:21:50,875 --> 01:21:52,917 - ♪ They won't see me coming - Oh. [laughs] 2004 01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:55,833 - But the journey continues for one final couple 2005 01:21:55,833 --> 01:21:57,833 as their Decision Day approaches. 2006 01:21:57,917 --> 01:21:59,000 - Oh, I have to go-- OK. 2007 01:21:59,125 --> 01:22:00,417 - You have to come to me. 2008 01:22:00,500 --> 01:22:01,792 [chuckles] 2009 01:22:01,875 --> 01:22:03,708 - You know, after the sex store, 2010 01:22:03,792 --> 01:22:05,333 slid right into having sex. 2011 01:22:05,417 --> 01:22:08,333 How many foster children are in this dream of yours? 2012 01:22:08,417 --> 01:22:11,042 - You know, probably, you know, maybe five at a time. 2013 01:22:11,167 --> 01:22:13,667 - Five at a time. [dramatic sting] 2014 01:22:13,708 --> 01:22:16,583 - If Decision Day was tomorrow-- 2015 01:22:16,708 --> 01:22:20,125 - I would be feeling like I have insufficient data. 2016 01:22:20,208 --> 01:22:22,000 - Hmm. 2017 01:22:22,042 --> 01:22:23,708 Happy One Month-iversary. 2018 01:22:23,792 --> 01:22:26,667 [dramatic music] 2019 01:22:26,708 --> 01:22:28,625 ♪