[dramatic music]
- Okay, so it's the morning of the reunion.
Hoping that we don't have any fights.
- You never know what they're gonna throw at you.
- Let's go.
- Tonight, the couples
from "Married at First Sight: Boston" are back.
- Reunion ready! - Well, is the beard okay?
- It's been five months since the cameras went away,
and a lot has happened.
- I know who I am,
and everyone else will see it too.
- It's time. - Oh.
♪ ♪
- But they're here...
- All right, y'all. Let's get this done quick.
- And they are ready to revisit the past.
How big is your bank account?
Honestly, what is going on?
Do you wish you had given him a chance?
You're a fire starter. - Mm!
♪ ♪
- You can't romance somebody
that doesn't want to be romanced.
- In certain situations, there were times
I could've spoke up. - [scoffs]
- I was told I wouldn't feel like I was being attacked,
and I do feel that way.
- You probably should apologize.
He's right there.
- I still stand by the word "aggressive."
♪ ♪
- I've never been rude to anyone.
- I know. You're the nicest person.
♪ ♪
- The couples will update us on the present...
The job search, how's that going?
Are you looking or no? - Um...
♪ ♪
- Once I started to see how amazing he was,
that made me more attracted to him.
- Why y'all playing games? Are you still together?
♪ ♪
And share their hopes and dreams for the future.
- Look, I know what I want now.
- Marriage is something that you fight for.
It's something that you choose every day.
♪ ♪
- We've got some special guests
and never-before-seen footage from the Boston season
that you do not want to miss.
Here we go. Three, two, one.
Get ready, because they're all here
and ready to reveal everything...
- She's not a good person.
- In an explosive two-part reunion.
- She's actually pregnant with triplets.
- This is the "Married at First Sight: Boston" reunion.
- You're just not worth my time.
- This was very traumatic.
- Bombshell!
Boom! Head exploded.
♪ ♪
Hello, everyone. I'm Kevin Frazier.
And tonight is the night
of the "Married at First Sight: Boston" reunion.
We're starting off this reunion strong.
I have the entire cast from Boston here,
all five couples.
Hi, everybody. How are y'all doing?
all: Hi. - Very good.
- Can I just first say you look fantastic?
You look amazing.
Everybody is dressed. - Thank you.
You look good too.
- Just trying to keep up with y'all.
That's all. [laughter]
Mark, wow. You lost some weight, man, huh?
- A little bit. A little bit. Yeah, yeah.
- Is that Lindsey's influence?
I just want to know. The food?
I mean, she changed your diet a little bit.
- She switched out the burgers for sushi.
- That's a big deal! [laughter]
- Dropped, like, 40 pounds. - 40 pounds, okay.
Come on now. Come on now. [all cheering]
Here's a question: how does it feel
to be on the other side of this process
now that it's like you can kind of exhale?
- A breath of fresh air.
- Is it? - Yeah.
To be in, like, normal routine of your life....
- Yeah. - It feels good.
- Yeah, the added pressure of everything to do with,
you know, the experiment, when that's gone,
it's just a whole different ball game,
and we really, you know, can
get to know each other on a different level.
- All right. Here's what I need to know.
What's it been like watching the show?
Alyssa.
[laughter]
Just out of the--just...
- You know, there's good times and bad times,
and, you know, I think we all can learn a lot
from watching ourselves on TV, and I'm grateful for that.
- Mm-hmm.
How's it been for you, Lindsey?
- For me, I looked at this from day one as,
I'm either gonna find the love of my life
or I'm gonna learn some uncomfortable truths,
maybe both, so I really take everything
as a learning experience and a growth
toward some more self-awareness, you know?
- Olajuwon, what's been the hardest part
of watching this on television?
- A lot of self-reflection, Kev.
A lot of self-growth. [laughter]
A lot of reflection, a lot of self-growth.
- Right, right. Yeah. - You know, so...
- Is it strange having your private life
suddenly be so public?
- Super strange, especially when you have,
like, people who don't know you watching, like,
a small snapshot of something that happened
that maybe you regret, wish you did it differently,
but now they're judging you
on just that little 30-second sound bite.
It's just like, ugh. - Mm-hmm.
Jasmina, what's it like watching yourself on TV?
- You know, sometimes, I'd be like,
"Damn, girl, your attitude was real crazy."
But, like, the comments don't get to me.
It's not like, "Oh, my God,
I need to block this person because they said that."
- It sounds like you did block somebody, though.
- I did block one person. - Okay.
- It was somebody that claimed that they knew me,
and that person, I just blocked that person.
- It's like, relax.
Was this process different than what you expected?
- Yes, I did not expect to have to take the reins
on so many difficult life decisions.
I knew it'd be a lot of work,
but I didn't expect it'd be, like, three jobs, you know?
- Okay.
- Mm-hmm.
Olajuwon. - Yeah.
[laughter] - How about for you?
- Kev, I thought I had life by the balls.
I thought everything was perfect.
- Yeah. - So yeah.
And I thought coming into this, I'm like, man!
If you see me on the wedding day, I'm like,
shooting my hands up, "This is perfect.
There's nothing gonna go wrong."
And, man, I had a wake-up call real fast.
[laughter] Yeah.
- All right. We have a lot to talk about.
Let's jump into this,
and let's go back to the honeymoon.
And these moments did not make the show.
Let's watch.
- How was everybody's activities
with their husbands yesterday?
- Yeah. - It was so good.
- Yeah, it was super fun.
We played tennis, which was fun.
- Yeah.
- Ooh, that's interesting.
There's three sides of every story:
yours, mine, and the truth.
And I seem to see the truth and see Chris' story,
but Alyssa's story doesn't add up.
- What she's expressed is that,
because she feels like
she didn't get the guy she wanted,
that she gets--that she misses out on the experience
of becoming friends with everybody else
and sharing dinners and meals and activities.
So she, it sounds like, wants to move into the apartment
so she can do those things.
- That's not what the apartment's for, though, Chris.
It's not what the apartment's for.
- It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous.
- Alyssa, why weren't you honest
with the ladies at that point?
- I just didn't feel comfortable in that moment
kind of sharing, you know, what happened
with everyone sitting there.
- Chris, what do you think hearing that now?
- It's not surprising,
because I always felt like Alyssa was so done so early,
that to have the topics keep coming up over and over
was draining and exhausting,
and at some point, you just kind of want
to move on and talk about something else.
Everything was fine, okay?
What-what conversation is next?
- Alyssa, did you think that it was a false narrative
that you wanted to be in that building
to be closer to the girls?
- No, that's 100% false
that I wanted to be in the building
to be with the girls.
The main reason that I wanted to stay there was,
if we were still going to have to film,
then we both live
pretty far away from the apartments
and what would be fair is if we each split it,
because then you're driving half the time,
I'm driving half the time.
Then I said to the girls, too,
I said, you know, "Moving into the apartments
"or not moving into the apartments
has no effect on our relationships."
I said, "I'm still gonna hang out with you guys
"all the time and do dinners
and, you know, talk to you guys."
And we stayed true to that.
- Okay.
I also want to ask, Lindsey, you were Team Chris.
Do you think that the reason for this relationship
not working out still falls on Alyssa,
or is it both of them?
- No, I think it's on Alyssa.
♪ ♪
I definitely took Chris' side
because I've never had an interaction with Chris
where I didn't feel like he was genuine or honest and kind.
I-I love Chris as a friend.
We keep in touch a lot, so I'm partial,
but just because I've gotten a chance to know Chris.
♪ ♪
- Olajuwon, you're big on effort.
Do you think there should have been more effort?
- Oh, absolutely. Absolutely.
- What could've been done?
- Just give him a chance.
Give him a chance to get to know him,
hear him out.
But it's a learning experience, Alyssa,
so if anything ever happens again,
you hear that he said, she said from somebody,
sometimes you gotta go to the source
and just hear it straight from his mouth.
- Lindsey, you also--you had a moment with Steve and Noi,
talking about the baby and having a baby
and a stay-at-home mom and an unemployed dad.
- I chose myself,
'cause I would like to raise my kids.
- Would you be okay being a one-income family?
♪ ♪
- Yeah, if Steve makes enough money for that,
but yeah. - A jobless husband
and a stay-at-home mom.
Good luck, huh? [laughs]
- So pretty much the duration of this whole experiment,
I did my best to keep our energy separate.
I could tell from pretty early on
that we wouldn't really mix well together.
At that moment, we were all in the retreat together,
and I figured, hey, maybe I can make a joke.
We're starting to all get along.
Let me test the waters.
And she took it really personally.
Does that mean
that Lindsey started the fight on the airplane?
- Yeah.
[laughter] - Oh, Steve.
Steve. - Oh, my God.
- Are you gonna keep saying these [bleep] things all day?
Am I gonna have to come for you next?
Noi, you better keep him in line.
These [bleep] comments, third ones.
- Lindsey. - Apologies, Lindsey.
I didn't mean to get under your skin.
So I apologize.
She comes back around, and she says,
"Oh, Mark's gonna be such a good father.
He's gonna change every diaper."
And then she's looking at me,
you know, so I know it's directed at me.
And I let it--you know, I let her know in that moment,
"Hey, I apologized.
"I didn't mean to upset you,
but, you know, I know what you're trying to do."
And, you know, she talks trash with other people
when we're not around
and then acts cool when we were there,
so I just didn't want anything to do with that.
- Your wife is pretty close with Lindsey.
How do you feel about their friendship?
- Yeah. Personally, I told Noi on the airplane--
before their fight--was,
"Hey, she seems like a great person,
"but don't tell her any secrets.
She'll tell everybody."
On the honeymoon, she told Lindsey
about the first time we had sex.
Lindsey went straight to a producer.
- Mm-mm.
- That's what our producer told us.
- No, we--that didn't happen. - How else could that go?
- Because we said it on the bus,
and then my producer in the front was like,
"Don't forget, you guys, you're miked and on camera,"
and we both kind of looked at each other like, "Oh," so...
- Yeah. - I don't know.
- That's how that conversation came through, for sure.
- I mean, it seems to be when things are confronted to you,
there's usually something that excuses you from it.
I'm unsure.
I don't know, but I know my producer told me
that they heard it from--
that somebody else heard it from you.
- I mean, I didn't share with anyone here
about your sex life.
- Listen, let's move on. We have a lot to talk about.
We're gonna dig into some stuff,
and we're gonna talk about each one of these couples
one-on-one
so we can really get to the bottom
of everything that happened this season.
Are y'all ready for that? - Yes.
- Sure.
This next couple's marriage journey
was a bit of a rocky road,
yet their chemistry was undeniable.
And their playful nature
made them extremely fun to watch.
I'm talking about Katina and Olajuwon.
Let's welcome them in.
- Hello. - Hello, hello.
So good to see you. - Good to see you too.
- Kev, how are you doing, man? - I'm good. I'm good.
Oh, man, it's good to sit down with y'all.
I want to be 100% transparent from the beginning.
I thought there was no way in hell this worked.
- Really? - I was like, there's no way
that you two were gonna work out.
I thought he was too over the top.
You were living your life. It was not gonna work.
And then what we found out
was that you balanced each other perfectly.
- Mm-hmm.
- Can we go back to your wedding day?
Olajuwon, were the dance moves a little too much,
do you think? - No, Kev.
You gotta be yourself. You gotta be yourself.
My wife gotta know who I am right from the beginning.
- Everybody knew.
Everybody knew right off the bat.
When you saw those dance moves, what were you thinking?
- I thought it was funny. I was like, "Okay.
He has a big personality." - Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
- The only thing I was like-- I told him, I was like,
"Move my mom out the way, please.
Like, turn her around." - No, she did.
- In his defense, he told me before he actually did it.
He was a gentleman. Like, "Do you mind if I dance?"
Now, granted, I didn't know he was gonna do
a whole lifting up the shirt thing...
- Right. - But--
- Like the "Magic Mike" moves, Mike, right, Kev?
- You had the full-on "Magic Mike."
- [cackles] Yeah.
- Were you surprised
when you saw the wedding played back
and you saw Olajuwon cry?
- Yeah, I was surprised
because I didn't really get emotional
the day of the wedding.
- What was going through your mind at that moment?
- So my father passed when I was 16
and my mom has her own little health issues
and things like that,
so to have such a beautiful moment
and not have parents there-- you know,
and I believe that my dad chose this woman for me.
- Aww. - So emotions all built up.
- Wow, I get that. I get that.
And, Katina, he also was so smitten with you.
- When I seen my wife, I had no words.
Every time she looks at me, she smiles,
and I think she is gorgeous.
You know, my wife's hot.
[tender music]
I would ask for another kiss, but I don't want to be...
♪ ♪
Can I have another one? - Yeah.
♪ ♪
[chuckles]
- Did that make you feel good? - It did.
But, you know, I still had my guard up a little bit.
I'm like, "Mm, I like the compliments,
but I still need to tread lightly."
- And by the way, there was the compliments,
and then there was also a little controversy,
because on wedding day,
we learned that Olajuwon needs a wife who cooks
and that he needs a home-cooked meal on the table.
Right? - Mm-hmm.
- I just want you to take a look
at how, over the weeks, it got amplified
as he continued to push about wifey and cooking.
- Oh, geez.
- Katina, Olajuwon loves a home-cooked meal.
I hope you're no stranger to the kitchen.
If you are, let's hope you're a quick learner.
[laughter]
- The cooking, that's what I-I need in my wife.
I need that. - Mm-hmm.
So did you not eat before you were married?
- I could grab anything on the go
or I could make something easy and small,
but I have a wife now.
I felt like you didn't apply enough to the housewarming.
When we talk about a wife level,
this is what I look at.
I need to see where you are as a woman.
I have to make sure when I come home,
my kids can eat, I could eat, and we can go to bed,
but she can't cook.
It has to be edible.
The last meal I had was not edible.
♪ ♪
- How do you feel watching that back right now?
- Yeah, so it's tough.
When I watch those moments, I have two perspectives of it.
I definitely need to watch my tone and how I present it.
But, you know, that's something that I-I asked for
and I really wanted it,
but I definitely went about it the wrong way, 100%.
And I look at it, and I'm like, man,
I can't believe I was so stern on it
and like, "Ahh!"
Like, just so crazy about it.
- Mm.
Katina, you dealt with those moments.
What does it feel like watching it back now?
- Yeah, so it was a lot, you know, when you're trying,
you think you're doing your best,
and someone's like, "Well, you're coming up short."
And I'm like, "Well, this is all I really have."
But I just want to make it clear:
I did know how to cook.
- He said your food was inedible.
- It's not. To this day--
- What did you mean by that? "Inedible"?
What did you mean by inedible? - It's not edible.
- Let me tell them. So there was one time--
- Yeah, go ahead. You tell 'em.
- There was a one time I cooked,
and I put the chicken in the air fryer.
And I was playing around, not really paying attention.
By the time me and him went to go bite in it,
it wasn't cooked thoroughly.
So that one thing was just like, "You can't cook at all!"
- Well, let me ask you this. So I-I gotta know.
Does Olajuwon still expect a hot meal
on the table every night?
- No.
- No? - No.
- What changed?
- [sighs] Self-reflection.
[both laugh] - Ah! I'm telling you.
Hey, you know? - We found a balance.
Like, I realize, you know, she works a job too.
I can't have her on her feet. I mean, she's your queen.
You gotta protect her too, so if she tells me
she don't want to cook, then I say, "All right,"
and we'll just get some food, you know what I mean?
We'll just order something or we'll go out.
I know she still likes looking at her aesthetics
and restaurants, and so I find my balance.
- Look at the growth in this man.
Look at the growth in this man. Wow!
- I knew he had it in him. - It took a while.
- You knew it? You knew. - Yeah.
- Okay. Thank goodness you knew.
- My gut was telling me,
"Just be patient, girl. Just be patient."
I'm like, "I don't know. Am I being stupid?"
- Is that what you were thinking some of those times
when you were looking at him like--
- Yeah, it was-- - Looking at him like,
"Dude, I'm about to jump up"? - It wasn't easy.
Clearly. He's not easy.
I always tell him, "You're not for a weak person."
Like, at all. - Aw, yeah.
- 'Cause he's very, like, confident in himself.
And if you're gonna have a relationship with him,
you have to be, like, solid and confident in yourself.
- So was it hard when you heard him
doubting your wife skills?
- Of course. It hurt my feelings.
Yeah, it definitely, but I knew.
I was, like, okay, if we say yes on Decision Day,
we need more time.
Eight weeks isn't enough time. - Right.
- So I feel like--in my mind,
I was like, okay, if we can just get away
from, like, these cameras and everything
and see what we're like on an everyday basis...
- Then it works. - Mm-hmm.
- Olajuwon, you did doubt your wife a lot
in the beginning. - Yeah.
- And is there something that you have done
or you can do
to give her validation
in how you believe in her?
[suspenseful music]
- [clears throat]
I'm looking at you in your face while I tell you this
so you know I mean it, so...
♪ ♪
Um...
♪ ♪
I live by one saying:
"Work hard today. Focus on tomorrow.
And the rest is history." You embody that.
You taught me patience and effort is the key tools
to a happy life and a healthy marriage.
And, Katina, I couldn't be any more happier
to call you my wife, and I mean that.
- Thank you. - So...
[tender music]
[clears throat] Um...
♪ ♪
I would hope you accept this now you know your husband
and you're confident to continue this journey with me.
♪ ♪
- ♪ I fell in love ♪
♪ I fell in love ♪ - [sniffles]
♪ ♪
- I'm speechless.
- So I take it you're saying yes.
- Yes. Like, I-I knew.
Like, my gut was telling me, like, don't throw in the towel.
Don't give up on him.
♪ ♪
- Well, you always taught me to--
you know, you always treated Isaac and Olajuwon
as the same person. - Mm.
- When everybody had the Twitter fingers
and you were online and you was reading
how people were doubting your husband--
it's very easy to follow people's words,
and you never did.
You always told me, "I have faith in you,
and we'll get through this."
- I'm sorry. I'm speechless.
This is a big-ass ring.
[laughter]
- Wow. You did work there, Olajuwon.
- I tried, Kevin. I tried. - You came through.
Let me ask you something. - I tried, brother.
- What does it mean to you to give her this ring?
Because I just want to say something.
You've come a long way on this journey.
A long way. - Man.
This journey, it was more than just my marriage.
It was myself. - Mm-hmm.
- It was a challenge that I overcame,
and I-I learned on myself on self-reflection.
I keep saying it because
when you look back and you see this young dude
who thinks that he knows everything,
he's fly, he got in shape,
none of that [bleep] matters when it comes
to treating somebody and learning about yourself.
And that's why on Decision Day, I mean what I say.
You showed me a gray area of my life
that I needed to work on.
And it's not your words. It's your presence.
Sometimes to be a leader, you don't have to talk.
You just gotta show your actions,
and you've done that.
- I love you--this is my first time saying it.
- Is it? - Yes, yes, yes.
- Yeah. - And you know I love you too.
♪ ♪
- Do you know how lucky you are to have this woman?
- Absolutely. That's my backbone.
- My best friend. - For real.
If I had to say to anybody, you know,
who's going through this process,
be true to yourself.
Know what you are coming here for.
Don't get distracted.
And whoever you get, give them the full opportunity,
because you never know
what they can bring in your life.
And I have it beside me, so...
- What a great moment, right?
What a great moment. - This is so beautiful.
- We have an interesting clip that we're gonna play.
This did not make the show,
but it's from when you two met with Pastor Cal
and a few days after you moved in together.
Watch this. - You gotta keep your word.
When you say something, you're gonna do something.
- I do keep my word. - All right. Cool.
- What--okay. I don't know what that was.
- I don't know what he's talking about.
- No, she'll say she will do something
and then, like, doesn't do it.
And then, like, later on-- - What are you talking about?
- I asked her to, you know, help me with something.
- Oh. - And she's like, "I'll do it."
And a hour came by... - And she didn't do it yet?
- So he remembers this differently.
- But she promised me, though. She promised me.
She's like, "When you get out the shower,
I'll be ready for you," and it was like--
- What was "it"?
[dramatic musical sting]
- My relaxation at the end of the night.
[laughter]
- Okay. I don't even want to know.
- Yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, I don't even want to know.
I'll leave that alone. [laughter]
Uh...whew!
- So the pastor didn't want to know.
- Yeah-- - I want to know.
- What was it?
- [exhales sharply] Ooh. Uh...
- Oh, no. He knows.
- Yeah! - He don't want to say.
I love he just tried to play that off.
Olajuwon tried to play that-- - No, we just have, like,
routine night things, and, you know...
[quirky music]
I think we should leave that for the next question, Kev.
Yeah? [laughter]
- But what's interesting about that clip
is how you two get each other and how you vibe.
- Yeah. - Okay.
Let's go back here a second
to your one-month anniversary dinner.
- Oh, yeah. - Yeah, let's go back to that.
And things got pretty heated when you discovered
that dating app on your wife's phone.
- But if we're gonna be honest,
there's something I noticed today
on my way here that bothers me.
- I mean, I don't know what he's talking about,
so it's a conversation we'll have later, in private.
- Why do you have that? - This is old.
- It doesn't matter. Why do you have it?
- I don't have a profile. This is old.
- You are married!
- Did you overreact?
- [sighs] Kev...
- [laughs] - Did you overreact?
- Yes, I overreacted,
but I could have went about it a different way.
- Was it wrong to bring it up in the way you did...
- Absolutely. - In front of everybody?
- There we go. That's the way, yeah.
So yeah, there's a place and a time for everything, Kev.
- Katina, do you have worries that there could be
another situation like that arising ever?
- Now, at this place in our marriage, no.
That wouldn't happen. - No.
It wouldn't happen. Absolutely not.
When I watch these clips, Kev...
- Yeah. - It stays in me for, like--
no lie, like, three weeks, I think about it.
And I just sit there, and I'm like,
how can--how can I have had all these people around me
and not one person step up and say,
"Dude, you sound like an ass"?
And I never had-- people just sit there.
So you would never learn if you don't have somebody
to call you out the proper way and...
- I love this Olajuwon. I love him. I love this.
I have to say that one of the things
I was impressed about is
how serious you took this whole experiment.
I was really, like-- as it went on and I watched it,
I was so proud of the fact
that you, like, locked in and said,
"I'm really in this for this woman."
Even when you were angry... - Yeah.
- You were still like, "I'm taking this serious.
I want to be married." - Yeah.
- "I love this woman. I'm with her."
And that just--I was like, oh, that's what this show is about.
- For everybody out there, I would say,
don't always knock the man that's forward about who he is.
Understand him. Don't judge him.
Learn about him if you think that's the right person for you
'cause everybody will change
when it's time for them to do it.
They will know when.
So we've seen a lot of things on the internet
of a lot of people saying, "Oh, Katina's crazy.
Run, run, run," but lookit.
Because she didn't take your advice
and she sat and didn't judge me,
she is smiling up here and she has a rock on her hand.
And she makes-- she manifested her future.
So, I mean, be scared of the guy that hides his secrets.
Don't be scared of the man who shows you who he is.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's what it's about.
It's a process. - It's a process.
- It ain't easy. - No.
- When people tell you this is gonna be easy,
they think it's gonna be easy and a fairy tale,
they're the fools. - Yep.
- So where do you see yourselves in five years?
- We'll probably have a child by then.
In five years? - Yeah, absolutely.
House, white picket fence, maybe a dog.
- A pool. - A pool.
- [laughs] - She needs her pool.
- The whole nine yards. - Yeah.
- He sold his home during the process.
- Oh, wow. - So we're in an apartment.
- Okay. All right. - Making some moves, Kev.
- Wow. - Yes.
- I told you I'm always on the move, Kev.
- You're all in. You're all in, yeah.
- I sold my house because I had too much history in it.
And if you had-- if Isaac's gone,
then you have to leave the area where Isaac used to be.
Even--that's everywhere. The people, everything.
- Isaac is gone.
He's out. He's done. - Yeah, Isaac's gone.
Yeah, I'm done. I'm done. I'm done.
- Okay, he's cured. He's cured.
- Yeah, I'm cured. - Yeah. Okay.
This dude is not messing around.
- There's things I could do, Kev.
There's things I could do. - Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I am so, so happy for you two. I really am.
I mean it from the bottom of my heart,
and I can't wait till we all get back together
a little bit later with everybody,
'cause there's some things we have to discuss
with the group, all right?
- And nobody in the group knew about this either.
- Well, they're all gonna be-- when you go back
and see that ring, they're gonna trip out.
- It's so beautiful. - Yeah.
- Congratulations, Katina. - Thank you.
- And Olajuwon. - Thank you, Kevin.
- You knew? Yeah, we knew.
- We knew. [laughter]
- Every hard moment he done gave me.
- [laughs] - It's so beautiful.
I was so-- - Did you cry?
- Girl, I wa--you know-- yes and no.
Like, it's just--it's hard. - Oh, my God.
- Welcome back to the "Married at First Sight" Boston reunion.
Now, this next couple set a record.
It was the first time
in "Married at First Sight" history
that a bride and groom chose
not to spend their wedding night together.
Their relationship was rocky from the very beginning,
and sadly enough, they called it quits
after only ten days of marriage.
You all know that I'm talking about Alyssa and Chris.
Let's welcome them in now.
How are you? How are you?
- I'm good. How are you? - Good.
Good, good, good, good. - How are you?
- What's going on?
[upbeat music]
- Oh, so many questions to ask, so much ground to cover.
First of all, how's it being on stage together right now?
- Fine for me. - Fine for me.
- It's not the first time I've seen her since filming ended,
'cause as a group, we all hang out.
So we're cordial. - Mm-hmm.
- There is something I wanted to say, though,
before we start, Kevin, if that's okay.
- Sure. Sure.
- Um...
you know, I just wanted to say that
I came into this with the purest intentions.
I wanted to find my person more than anything.
- Of course.
- And when it didn't work out for me, I panicked.
And, you know, I didn't handle myself
the way I would have liked.
And, you know, I'm sorry for that,
but, you know, looking back now,
I'm grateful for the things that I've learned.
And I just want everyone to know
that I came into this for the right reasons.
- Okay.
- When you say that, do you mean
you wish you had given Chris a chance?
- When I say that, I mean,
I don't think that me and Chris were made for each other.
- I-I hear that. - Okay.
- But do you wish you had given him a chance?
- I wish there was things that I didn't say
because of the mental state that I was in.
- Mm-hmm. - 'Cause I didn't feel like
it was right, right away.
And so I saw him.
And yes, he was not my physical type
when I saw him.
But, you know, there was things that happened
besides the physical attraction that made me feel that way.
That really upset me.
- What did Chris do that rubbed you the wrong way?
- You know, as the night went on
and I learned things about him,
like, when we--I was standing with his three groomsmen...
- If he ever comes off as condescending,
he's saying, "I can teach this person something."
[quirky music]
- And don't be afraid to stick to your guns.
Even if he says, "You're wrong. You're wrong. You're wrong."
- I'm like, I don't see how we're compatible.
You know, we have no shared hobbies, in my opinion.
We don't share the same core values and beliefs.
And that's, I feel like, where things got misconstrued
and messed up and why my brain wasn't working right.
I was, like, bawling my eyes out.
It was like--it was horrible.
- This can be an overwhelming experience.
And I don't think people understand what it's like
to be on national TV.
Chris, hearing this, how does it make you feel?
- Uh...
it is overwhelming.
You know, I've always said that you can answer
the million questions, the million surveys
that you take,
but you can't ever survey somebody
in a way that tells you what they're gonna do
when they marry a stranger.
So it's no surprise to me if Alyssa, or anybody,
gets feelings or reactions that they didn't expect.
The question is always, what do you do
once that happens?
How do you handle it? What do you say?
And at the end of the day, how do you treat people?
[tense music]
You know, there's a lot of stuff I didn't see
until it actually aired.
- No, I do not want to talk to him!
I hate him.
He's a [bleep] ass[bleep].
He's disrespectful and rude, and he's doing me dirty.
- I would have been done a lot faster
had I seen a lot of that stuff even sooner.
- What in particular?
- That I'm a [bleep] used car salesman
who sells houses.
- He comes off as this good guy.
Well, guess what?
He's a [bleep] car salesman
who sells houses.
[dramatic musical sting]
- I didn't realize the extent
to which she had said bad things,
had said insulting things,
had said stuff that is--
like, disgusting things.
So when you--when you say stuff like that about somebody,
you're just not worth my time at that point.
No one deserves that.
- You know, like I said, I wasn't mentally aware
of what I was saying and what I was doing
and the way I was acting,
because I never want to hurt people's feelings.
And I didn't know what was right or wrong.
I just felt like I was, like, spiraling out of control,
and I-- and I couldn't contain it.
And that is my point here.
I'm not here to argue with you. I'm really not.
I'm just telling you, that is the reason
I acted the way I did.
- This experiment,
it's about people getting married and being together.
- Mm-hmm. - But you really just said,
"This isn't gonna work."
- Mm-hmm.
- Knowing that this isn't gonna work,
why get on an airplane and go on the honeymoon?
- I thought that's what we had to do.
♪ ♪
- At the time, you just went down to the honeymoon
because you felt you had to.
- Yeah. - Okay.
Chris, so you guys get there.
What are you thinking in your head?
- So at this point, I think I'm just along for the ride.
And when I started to notice a shift in language
from "process" to "experience"...
- I just know that I want to be part of this experience
and this experiment, so for me,
I want to be able to move into that apartment
for that experience
and to participate with the group.
♪ ♪
- I started to realize
that it was now about time spent
on the activities, with the other couples,
et cetera. - That's not true.
- And that's where my mindset started to shift
and I started to go, okay, yeah,
so we're gonna be here for two or three more days.
We'll do a couple of the activities,
but when we get back, we're gonna be done.
- What's not true?
- I could care less about the experience.
I came into this with the purest intentions
of hoping to find my person.
And when he kept saying to me,
"I don't feel like you're here for the right reasons,"
that really triggered me.
- Well, if I can--if I can add nuance to the statement,
"not there for the right reasons anymore."
- Production did ask you if you wanted
to speak to the experts, and you said no.
- Yes, because I was upset with the experts.
Mm-hmm.
Why hasn't someone flown in here yet
to figure it out?
You don't think one of them should've, like,
flown here maybe or something?
- Since--I don't want to call them.
I hate them. They did this to me.
♪ ♪
- But those, in that moment, are people who can help you.
Those are professionals who you can talk to.
- I didn't feel like they could help me
in the situation that I was in.
I really didn't, but I do have to say
that I thought that I trusted them.
And when I didn't feel like I trusted them,
they were not the people that I wanted to talk to.
- What did they do to lose your trust?
- Um, what I asked for in somebody,
that's not what I got.
And when you're going through-- - Physically.
- No, in all aspects. In all aspects.
♪ ♪
I felt very hurt by that.
And so when they said, "Well, do you want to speak to them?"
I was like, "No." - Okay.
On day ten, after the honeymoon,
your marriage came to an end
when Chris decided to end the marriage.
- This is my Decision Day.
♪ ♪
- So are you saying you want a divorce?
- I want a divorce.
- [sniffles] Sorry.
- Yeah, it's okay. It's okay.
- You cried. - Mm-hmm.
- Were those tears of relief?
- It was tears of sadness about the whole situation.
Like, I felt bad for both of us.
I was sad about the way it happened,
what happened, the way I felt, everything.
I was sad that it went this way.
I was sad that I didn't feel like
I was matched with my person.
Yeah, it was just sadness.
- Chris, how hard was it to make that decision?
- Not very.
I would have tapped out even sooner.
I know we set a record. I would've beat that.
- Okay. Here's the big question.
What did you learn from this process, Alyssa?
- Just to be mindful of the things you say
and the way you say them, and, you know,
just try to be a good person and be better every day.
- What does the future hold for you, Chris?
- I spend a lot of time still building my business.
I'm dating.
Sort of the few dates that I've been on since,
I found myself getting into,
I don't know, heavier topics earlier.
- Quicker. You want to--right. - Yeah.
'Cause, like, I know what I want now
more so than I ever did.
- I think everybody knows out there
that we always hope for the best
when matching our couples.
So I'm sorry this process didn't go the way
that we thought it would go for you both or you expected,
but you know what, thank you for being here.
Thank you for being so open and honest.
- Our pleasure.
You know, Jasmina and Michael had a magical wedding,
but on their honeymoon,
they seemed to get off on the wrong foot.
But after a month of butting heads,
they pulled through and started to make some real progress
with their relationship.
On Decision Day, they chose to stay married,
having built a solid friendship
with the hope that it could eventually lead to romance.
Now, five months later,
I'm pretty eager to see where they're at.
Let's say hello to Jasmina and Michael.
Hey, hey, hey, hey. - Hi.
- How are y'all doing? - How are you?
- I love the green. - Thank you.
- Welcome. Welcome. - Good to see you.
- Oh, you look clean. Okay. - I appreciate that, brother.
- I see you, man. - Just trying to keep up.
- How are y'all doing? - Good.
- How are you doing? How's everything going?
- It's going well. - It's going all right.
- How are you? - I'm good.
Would it be fair to say, as we look back,
that your wedding was a magical day?
- I loved our wedding day.
- Did you? - Yeah.
- What do you remember, Michael?
- Man, I remember first being super nervous before I met Jas.
[exhales sharply]
It started to hit me, like,
everything that, you know, was leading up to this moment.
So I was super, super nervous.
Then I remember seeing her for the first time,
and I was just like, "Oh, okay."
- [sniffles] - You're okay.
- Wow. - Aww!
[upbeat music]
- Right.
- Yeah, she's beautiful. - He said, "Wow."
- Yeah. I said, "Wow." - It wasn't, "Oh, okay."
It was, "Wow."
- You were crying. - I was.
- What was going through your mind?
- I was fine, like, preparing for the wedding.
And then once I put the dress on,
that's when I, like, started to freak out.
- I'm about to throw up. - Okay.
- I'm so nervous. I'm so scared.
Literally, every single emotion just hit me at once.
♪ ♪
It was just a lot for me. - Mm-hmm.
- But I knew once I, you know, got on the other side
that I would have been fine.
- So it took a second to compose yourself.
- It did. - Is that what was happening?
Michael, when you saw that, what went through your mind?
- I was just like, all right, she's just as nervous as I am,
you know what I mean, so that calmed me down,
knowing that like, all right, we're on the same page here.
So far.
- Yeah. [laughter]
But your communication--
like, you struggled with communicating with Jasmina.
Do you think that was part of the issue early on?
- Yeah, for sure.
I think, of course, early on, we don't know each other.
We're still trying to understand, like,
each other's communication styles.
The walls are up even more so when you're with a stranger,
trying to have certain conversations.
- Yeah.
- A lot of the conflicts we had,
he chose to talk to me a certain way
that, like, turned me off.
And when he brought them up off-camera,
he was very aggressive and he was very loud
and he had a tone and was very--
just disrespectful in general.
- If you want to say that I was speaking in a tone
that you didn't appreciate, I'll give you that.
If you want to say that I was speaking
in a condescending tone, I would give you that.
But if you're saying that I was yelling at you,
that's just not true, Jas.
Why would I yell at you? - All right.
So I'm a liar now.
[tense music]
- You seemed shocked when Jasmina brought that up.
- Yeah, I remember being shocked
'cause I remember hearing--
like, the word "aggressive" was the word
that made me feel like, wait, what?
Because when I hear that word, usually it's just, like,
synonyms of, like, "threatening"
or, like, you're trying to intimidate.
When I hear "aggressive," that's what I think about.
- I still stand by the word "aggressive."
I-I think people, when they hear the word "aggressive,"
they automatically think of maybe physical,
but people can also be aggressive
with the way that they speak. - Mm-hmm.
- And, you know, he didn't like
that I chose that word being a Black man,
but I'm also a Black woman and I understand what Black men
and just people my color go through.
- Michael, you didn't feel you were being aggressive.
- No, not even a little bit.
- When I watched that back, I knew I remembered
him agreeing with me in that moment.
♪ ♪
But then for the next month,
he didn't want to speak to me because I used that word.
- Mm-hmm. - So...
- When you say "didn't want to speak to you,"
so you all just didn't talk?
- No.
I don't want to speak for him,
but from what I got from the conversations was,
he felt like he couldn't speak to me after that
because if he would,
it would come off as aggressive.
And so for, like, the first month that we were married,
we didn't speak.
- How can you have a marriage when you're not speaking?
- That's what I said. - 'Cause the way I felt was,
okay, if I handled the situation
to the best of my ability in that moment,
the next time I have a issue with my wife,
how do I bring it up to her in a way
where this word doesn't come up again?
I felt like I didn't have the tools--
or us and our marriage didn't have the tools--
in order for that to not happen again.
That made me so nervous. Like, that freaked me out.
- I-I understand. - I was just like, oh, okay.
- I understand what you're saying.
- I gotta relax. - Yeah.
- So, of course, it's not--
you know, in a marriage, you have to speak.
It's not--that's not the way to go about things,
is just to be silent,
but to be honest, it made me nervous.
♪ ♪
- Did you think it was going to end?
- Yeah.
A couple of times.
- Really? - Mm-hmm.
- How did you guys finally get over that hump?
- I just--you know, we mentioned it to Dr. Viviana
when she came. - Mm-hmm.
- And we really didn't have much of a breakthrough
until we did her exercise, honestly.
- "Do you think you have been fully vulnerable with me?"
- No, I have not been fully vulnerable with you
because with the lack of communication,
I don't feel that you honestly care sometimes.
"What's hard to say?"
- That I wish I trust you more.
- It's not a shock to me that you feel that way.
I also know that I have to create a safe space
for you to trust me.
- Was it a real turnaround?
'Cause it seemed like there were moments
where you two really bonded.
- I didn't feel stressed anymore.
I didn't feel, like, a lot of pressure.
I felt like I could finally be myself
and, you know, show him who I am.
And I got the same, you know, sense from him too.
Like, everybody needs to do that exercise.
It really--it really helped to be vulnerable,
'cause that was what was really missing in our marriage,
was being vulnerable and meaning what we say,
and, you know, having to look at each other
and, you know, speak our truth,
that really was a breakthrough for us.
- Marriage is hard work.
It's really--people think
it's, like, roses and, you know, fairy tales.
It's not.
It's a lot of hard work. - It's not.
- Michael, when did you start to feel comfortable again?
- I would say right about the same time.
When we did that exercise, it was the first time
that I felt like I was hearing her out
and she was hearing me out
on where we are in the marriage,
'cause before that, we weren't doing that at all.
- Yeah. - Yeah.
- And I think as it began to grow--
and it seemed like you guys were growing together--
there became hope and people were like,
"This is gonna work out.
They messed around, and it's gonna work out."
Did you feel the same way? - I did.
- Yeah? - Yeah, I did.
'Cause it's what I wanted to happen from the beginning.
It just took us so long to get there.
- We made so much progress, we finally got to the point
where we were like, all right, we can tolerate each other.
Just be honest, 'cause we both got--
- Yeah, we could not stand each other.
- At the beginning, it was so bad to where--
- Hold on, you couldn't stand each other?
- We couldn't stand each other. That's just the truth.
- Really? - We couldn't stand each other.
So, like, to go from not being able
to, like, even have a conversation with each other
normally without being like, "Ugh," you know what I mean,
and then finally getting to the point where it's like,
"All right, okay, this is"-- - You cool.
- "She's cool," you know what I mean?
Then going from that to, "Okay, this is a friend.
"Like, this is somebody that I don't mind going to.
"This is somebody that, you know,
I want to have conversations with."
I was really just going off of hope
and nothing else, really.
- I think that everybody was hoping,
and then when you said yes on Decision Day,
everybody was so happy 'cause they're like,
"Oh, this is gonna work out." - Yep.
- I don't know you enough. - Yeah.
- So, you know,
I want to get to know you more and stay married.
- That was the longest answer.
I was like... - What did she say?
- She said she wants to stay married.
Oh, my God. [laughter]
- Yes.
Yes, I want to stay married too.
- Yay! - Yes!
- All right, since Decision Day,
what's happened?
And are you still together?
[pensive music]
[both imitate drumroll]
Why y'all playing games? Are you still together?
- I'll let Mike answer that.
♪ ♪
- [clears throat]
♪ ♪
- We're not together. No.
♪ ♪
- What happened?
- After Decision Day, I think it was like--
it took about 12 days
or less than two weeks... - Two and a half weeks.
- For me to call Jas and decide, like,
"All right, this isn't-- this isn't really working."
I straight up told her, I said,
"I don't feel like I'm getting anything from this.
"I feel like there's certain validation
"and certain things that I need
that I don't feel like I'm getting here."
- There was no romance. You weren't getting romance,
is what you're trying to say, right?
- It's everything, right? Like, I was--I told her,
I was thinking about what was keeping me here.
And if I take out the fact that we're married,
take out the fact that I did these vows
and, like, the fact that I want a family and all those things--
take that out--take that away,
I didn't really have much to hold onto anymore.
- You said yes on Decision Day. Did you want to be married?
Did you want it to work? - I wanted it, of course.
I wanted it to work. Of course.
Why wouldn't I want it to work? You know, of course.
That's why I said yes, but...
- Did she want it to work?
- I would say, after Decision Day,
I didn't feel like she did.
- Jas, what would you say?
- I truly believed that I was putting in more of an effort
than he was.
I'm not gonna say that without receipts.
If you look at our conversations,
I texted him every single day to have a conversation.
He planned one night to come to my house,
and that was it.
And Mike and I got into a very nasty argument.
He said that I wasn't putting in any effort.
And so the way that that conversation was handled,
I was just like, you know, honestly,
like, I don't have time for it.
So if he didn't ask me for it,
I was going to.
So when he called me, I agreed.
[tense music]
- So off of that argument, you decided, "All right,
it's time--it's time for us to get a divorce,"
because that argument didn't go the way you wanted it to go?
- Yes. Yes.
- Based off of us having one nasty conversation?
- Yeah, I did, - Especially if you feel like
there was hope for us if that didn't happen,
that we would've made it work? - But Michael--
- I did. - There was no hope.
- That's what I'm saying. - You were a friend.
- That's my-- - You were a friend.
- He was a friend. Don't say that to him
like I didn't say he wasn't-- like he wasn't a friend.
- No, but I'm just reminding him!
- I agree with that!
- It was never gonna be romantic.
He was a buddy. - No, but you don't know--
- He was a buddy. - But nobody knows that.
- Well, now we know. The whole world knows that.
We watched it. We saw.
- When you meet people,
people are friends first before the romance.
We had two months together.
- Jasmina.
- It doesn't take that long for--
for certain aspects. - Oh, for you.
Because you're used to going off of physical first.
That's not me. - No, no, no. No, no, no, no.
When you are with someone, you're married to them,
there is a natural, like-- you're just like, mm.
Where was that?
- We didn't have that because
I was so turned off from Michael
the first month of our marriage.
And just because we had this breakthrough this day,
tomorrow, I'm not gonna be like, "Damn, come here."
- I want to say this.
And this is just my assessment, okay?
This is my assessment.
I thought that when you walked down that aisle,
I was like, "You got your wife.
You found a wifey." - Yep.
- "You've won the lottery here."
But I thought that she was never into you.
And I'm just being honest. - Mm.
- Oh, romantically? No. - I don't think you were ever--
you were ever into him romantically.
And you never were. - No, and I--and I said that
multiple times on camera, where I don't--
if there was one thing I was honest about,
it was my feelings,
where I only saw him as a friend,
I wasn't having feelings for him.
I was very open, and I told him that.
I think I probably told him that a little bit too much.
- Basically, you were friend-zoned
from the beginning.
You were friend-zoned. - Yeah, for sure. 100%.
- You've been in the friend zone
since the day y'all got married.
You know that, right? - Mm-hmm.
- I don't have a type. That's the thing.
Let's start there. All of my exes look different.
- Right, but were you ever attracted to this man?
- Yes, once I started to see his personality
and how amazing he was,
that made me more attracted to him.
But I also told him all the time,
"You look good today. I like this and that,"
but I never got that from him either.
So that was also another thing, where I even told him,
like, "You don't tell me that I look pretty today
"or, like, this happens. Like, you don't--
you don't make me feel that, like, you want me."
- You do have to romance her.
You understand that, right? - Of course.
- Like, when y'all went on your one-month anniversary...
- Open your eyes.
- Oh, this is where we got married.
Oh, this is so nice.
- Surprised? You happy? - I am.
I'm very happy. I really wasn't expecting this.
- Did you stop and tell your wife,
"Wow, you look amazing"?
- I didn't.
- No? - Mm-mm.
- Just saying. Just for the future.
- But you can't romance somebody
that doesn't want to be romanced.
You feel like you're doing too much.
- Mm, that's not true. - You can romance somebody
with some words.
Romance don't always got to be physical, playboy.
- That's not something I want to deal with
if the person that I'm with--
it feels like it's like this, why do I want to do it?
- But if you know you're with someone
that in order for them to get there,
that they need you to be more vocal...
- But if you're constantly telling somebody,
day in and day out, "I'm not there yet.
I'm not there yet," as a man, you can't hear that.
- So you didn't think that maybe in order for us
to get there physically, that I needed you
to be vocal first to turn me on in that way physically?
That's what I'm trying to say to you.
- Y'all are sitting there. It's like y'all are a couple.
Y'all sitting like you're a couple.
You're sitting like you're really cool with each other,
like it's comfortable, you know?
'Cause I've seen some people who will, like, be crawling
over the edges of the armchairs on these sofas,
you know, after they get divorced.
- I'll speak for myself.
I personally like the space that we are in,
and I'm glad that we can be in the same room
without it feeling like a lot of tension.
And, you know-- - I love that.
- 'Cause he is a-- he is a very great guy,
and he's super funny.
He's a great friend.
- Why do you say it like that?
- 'Cause I knew he was gonna... [laughs]
No, he is. He is. - Uh-huh.
Jasmina, have you started to date again?
[mischievous music]
Oh, you have. Okay.
Let's go ahead and talk about this.
- And no, I have not. - No, come on.
- No, I'm-- no, I'm not dating.
- Have you gone out on a date? - No.
I'm like--I'm not worried about-about that right now.
It'll come when it comes.
I'm not about to go out and look for it.
You know, what's meant for me will be for me,
but I'm not closed off from dating.
I am open to it, but I'm not like,
"Let me--let me go out and see who I can meet."
You know, if it happens, it happens.
- Mike, have you started to date again?
- Mike said he gonna jump right back in the dating pool.
- Well, that's what I was gonna say.
- Oh, you go right back in. If somebody--
- He said he ready to swim.
- You haven't met anybody yet? You haven't met anybody?
You haven't met anybody
that's piqued your interest yet?
- I haven't been on any dates. - No, no.
I asked you if you've met anybody
who piqued your interest.
- I haven't been on any dates yet.
- But have you met somebody who's piqued your interests?
- Kevin, I said I haven't been on any dates.
- I know what you said, and you know what I said.
- No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. No.
Nobody's significant enough yet, no.
♪ ♪
- Somebody-somebody has piqued your interest, though, right?
♪ ♪
- He didn't say not significant, though.
He said "pique your interest." - Yeah.
I'll say yeah. - You say yeah?
- Yeah. - Yeah. Yeah, so that's cool.
So you're starting to move on. - For sure.
- You're starting the process to move on.
Will you talk to him when he's going through this?
Will you help him out? - If he want me to.
You know I love asking questions,
but I don't think he's gonna--
- No, I'll probably-- I got enough sisters.
- "Hey, this is my ex-wife."
I don't think-- - Yeah, I'll be straight.
- That's true. That is your ex-wife.
- Yeah, I probably wouldn't. - Yeah.
He's not gonna ask me. - Okay.
Now, this next couple joining me tonight
had sparks fro
I mean the moment they met.
And despite the few fights they got into--
one in particular over noodles--
they made it out on the other side
both happy and in love.
America loves these two together.
Please say hello to Noi and Steve.
Hey, y'all. - Hello.
- Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. - How are you doing?
- Hi, Noi. How are you? - Good to see you.
Good to see you.
What's going on, man? - Good to see you.
So how are you guys doing?
Good? - We're in great shape.
- Yeah? - It's been good, yeah.
- I think your journey was fantastic.
You guys seemed to slide pretty seamlessly
or easily into marriage.
Is it because you just trusted the process from the beginning?
- I think so. I mean, I can speak for myself.
But I just felt like I went in with,
you know, only good intentions,
and I really had my heart set
on putting my best foot forward.
And, you know, even if I was in a situation
where, you know, I didn't feel like
it was quite the right match,
I would have made it work somehow.
- You would have tried. - Mm-hmm.
- And I feel like, for me, it was--
so much was dependent on who ends up being at the altar.
Once I meet this person,
then I can start dreaming about a future,
you know, anything after that.
I think the comfort was really the key factor
for us from the start. - Mm-hmm.
Your honeymoon really felt like a magic carpet ride,
and you both were in it,
and right off the bat, Noi, you--
you're like, "I--I'm falling in love."
- The question was,
"Do you feel like you're falling in love with Steve?"
And I said that I feel like it's slowly happening.
♪ ♪
- [laughs] That's--
- Do you wish you could rewind and do that moment over again?
- So there's a lot that we are not prepared for.
You know, everything's on the fly.
If I would have done it again,
I probably would've been more reassuring.
I feel like after the fact,
we continued to talk, and I, you know--
and I let her know how I feel in some ways.
But that first initial moment, I feel like
I wish I handled it a little bit better.
But I do think that it was important that--
you know, that I was true to how I felt in that moment
and that it was early on.
I wanted to be certain about how I felt
before professing anything.
- Noi, how good did it feel when Steve surprised you
with the "I love you" picnic? - [laughs]
- I'm finally ready
to let you know that I love you.
- You do? [laughter]
It was perfect because he really tried
to recreate that moment that we had on the honeymoon
where he didn't outright say "I love you" back,
so he was really trying
to make it up to me in that picnic.
And actually, he was actually the first person
to say the words "I love you" to me.
So even though I had alluded that I was falling in love,
I didn't actually say "I love you,"
but he was actually the first to say it.
It was pretty sweet.
- And by the way, you're still happily married, right?
- About that, Kevin...
[tense music]
- Oh. [chuckles]
- Of course we are. [laughter]
She's been hiding the ring. - She was hiding the ring?
Oh, so you finally pull it out. - Yes, we are.
- Are you officially Mrs. Noi Moy?
- It is not official.
And I knew that question was gonna come up.
- Okay. Why not? Yeah, why?
- Not on paper. I'm still warming up to it.
I haven't decided whether or not,
you know, I will take Steve's last name.
- Oh, okay. - I still rep Team Moy, okay?
It's just not official yet. That's all.
- Okay, but it's getting there. - It's getting there.
Yeah, I'm warming up to it. - Okay, I feel like
you're on your way. - Yeah.
- Are you two living together now?
Noi, are you continuing to keep your apartment?
- So we did decide to move in together,
although I did keep my apartment.
You know, that represented,
you know, a special time in my life
where, you know, I was kind of carving out my own path,
and, you know, it was, like, my sense of security.
- But you still--you two are together every night?
- Most nights. - Yeah.
- Or do you have nights where you live separately?
- Oh, yeah. Yeah, there's--
there's definitely some nights where we separate,
but majority time,
we do six days a week, depending on the week.
- In your apartment? - Yes.
- Do you wish that your wife would just move in with you?
- Well, we spend enough time together.
Like, this isn't something that really is a concern.
Early on, it was.
Early on, I didn't understand, you know, why.
But once she eventually expressed it properly
so I got--you know, I grasped it
and I got the security I needed of,
"Hey, now that the cameras are gone,
"now that the experiment's over,
are we still, you know, all in?"
And we're at counseling sessions,
we're--she's been to, like, ten family parties, you know?
She's in it. - Mm-hmm.
All right, let's get to the other big issue.
There was a lot of talk about you getting a job.
- Yep. - [chuckles]
I mean, it just scares me.
Like, I don't want my kids to worry about money
and I don't want to have, like, financial instability.
So it scares me a little bit.
- How's that going, the job search?
Are you looking or no?
- It's something that-- as we had mentioned, right,
it hasn't been an easy road,
but we've been doing so much work on our relationship.
- Yeah. - Compromising.
- Yes. Children. All that.
The job thing.
Here's what we ended up compromising on.
I have a deadline-- not a deadline.
I gave her a timetable
that was basically like, "At this point in time,
you know, I will start applying and get the job, if need be,"
if we agree that that's what needs to happen.
- Noi, on "Afterparty," you said that you--
you told Steve that you'd be okay
as long as his bank account stayed at 40k.
- Just hypothetically speaking, you and Steve,
if he showed you his bank account,
what number would make you be like,
"You know what, Steve, I'm sorry"?
[laughter]
- I don't know, if he had 40,000.
- 40,000? - Yeah.
- 40,000. - Sure.
I did say that. - Right, you did say that.
- I did. - That would make you more--
feel more comfortable.
How do you feel about that now?
- I mean, it wasn't so much the number.
I just kinda threw that number out there,
but I just want him to be stable
and have savings, you know,
if he was gonna take time off of work.
Just knowing that he's responsible enough to do that
is what I needed.
- Well, the question is, how big is your bank account
that you can just chill?
Let's be honest. - Yeah.
- Let's let the cat out of the bag, honestly.
- [clears throat] - [sighs]
Um... [laughter]
Because after your budget conversation,
Noi just chilled.
What calmed her down so much?
- So I think it's a number of different things, right?
I think it's me proving that I'm financially responsible.
I've always did what was expected of me
as a husband and as a provider.
And, you know, I reassured her in that way,
and I also essentially gave her a plan.
And it's a combination of hard work, investment,
whether it's companies-- even in crypto.
I made a really early investment in one of the coins.
But in several different ways,
I've been able to save up enough money,
and, you know, that got me to the place I'm at.
- Noi, do you feel comfortable now?
- I do. I obviously had a real--
[laughter]
- Noi said, "I do!" - It took me a while. I do.
- "Yes, I feel-- I feel hella comfortable."
- I do.
Yeah, it took me a while to get to this point.
Obviously, I struggled with it a lot.
And honestly, I'm at a place now
where I fully trust everything he's telling me,
because everything he has promised me,
he has followed through with. - Mm-hmm.
- So that's what gives me peace of mind.
Yeah.
- Another thing that we learned through the season
is that Noi wants no less than three children.
Is there anything you need to tell us?
- Well, now that you bring that--no, I'm just kidding. No.
- She's actually pregnant with triplets.
- Triplets, right. [laughter]
Are you still standing on that number?
- So while three is still my ideal target number,
there's some flex there.
- When do you think you will have children?
- Realistically, probably within the next year.
- Yeah. - Wow.
both: Yeah. - Great.
I want to show you a clip that never made the show,
but Steve, you met with Noi's sister, Sriracha,
and she sort of held your feet to the fire.
- So what do you want to do job-wise?
Do you feel some type of way you don't have a job?
- I want to put our heads together
and dream of possibilities.
- Why do you need to put your head--
- Because she's my wife.
- You think you're gonna be happy if she's like,
"I want you to do this. I want you to make this much"?
Do you think that's--are you gonna be happy with that?
- So I'm not asking to be told what to do.
I'm asking, what do you need in order to feel secure?
There's something going on. There's an insecurity with us.
- She needs you to have, like, a plan.
But, like, what do you want to do?
For you? For you?
- She grilled you.
But I also sensed that you just wanted to,
at some point, yell at her, "I got money, damn it."
[laughter] You were holding back.
You were like, "Nobody's ever asked me.
Just ask me! I got money!"
- I wanted to have that conversation with Noi.
I know she was reluctant.
You know, now I'm having it with Sriracha, to a degree,
and, you know, I'm doing my best to explain
what I do really feel and what I want,
you know, for my life, my vision.
- Noi, what was it like watching that side of Sriracha?
- I'm not surprised. You know, that's my family.
And, you know, Sriracha is just very protective
but also, like, gives it to you straight.
Like, she doesn't hold back, you know?
- The internet has labeled Sriracha as a real star,
and we are in luck, because guess who's here tonight?
Sriracha.
Come on out, Sriracha. - Oh, my God.
- Hello. - Hi.
- Hey, Sriracha. How are you? - Hi. Nice to meet you.
- Good to meet you. - Hi.
I love you. - I love you too.
- Hello, Sriracha. - Hi.
[laughter] - So what's going on?
- Sriracha, clearly you and Noi are very close.
So throughout the eight weeks, you were getting the scoop
on the good, the bad, and the ugly.
Do you feel like you have to protect your sister?
- I wouldn't necessarily say that,
but sometimes we need people in our lives
to get us on the right path.
- And Steve,
did you feel a little resistance from Sriracha?
Like Siracha was about to check you
if things didn't work out?
[laughter]
- You know, I did get some protective energy,
but I also got, you know,
"Hey, I don't need to protect my sister."
Just basically like, "Steve, you better be here
for the right reasons," is what I felt.
- Right, right, right, right.
Sriracha, throughout this process,
what it felt like is, he didn't have a job.
Y'all felt like he could be Freddie the Freeloader.
You were worried. - It was more or less like,
you don't have an idea-- like, a concrete idea.
That's why I was worried. Steve's, like, a good guy
and, like, you know, everyone loves him,
but, like, this doesn't make sense.
- It makes sense to you now. - Yes.
- What do you think of their marriage?
- I think it's cute.
- What does that mean? - It's cute.
- What does that mean?
- It's cute! - Her favorite word.
- Do you still have concern
for your sister in this marriage?
- They still don't know each other-know each other
like a normal, married couple would,
and that's a process.
- What don't you think they know?
- How to effectively communicate to each other.
- And that's something you guys are working on
in counseling right now, correct?
- Yep. - Yeah, that's a big priority.
Are you happy for your sister, though?
- Yes, I'm very happy.
- Yeah? - Yeah.
- Any advice for them? - Just say how you feel.
But just because you're not yelling,
just because you're talking politely,
doesn't mean you're not being condescending.
- Who are you saying that to? - Mm.
- That one was for me.
"Say how you feel" was for Noi,
'cause I will say how I feel,
and "work on the delivery" was for me.
- Why do you think Steve is condescending?
- Not necessarily condescending.
It's not like he's being intentionally condescending,
but it's kind of like when you scold a child,
and it's kind of like, "Hey, do you see why you're--
why you got upset for this? It doesn't make sense."
You can say it really nicely, but, like,
when you say it like that, it's like,
"Why are you doing this? This is stupid."
But you don't say that. But, like--
- You know, it is something I recognize, right?
So I can do it in a better way.
We can always be better.
- I got to tell you, Sriracha,
you have become a hit on the internet.
How do you feel about that on social media and everything,
where people love to talk about Sriracha?
- I'm gonna be honest. I'm not really surprised.
But not because of, like-- [laughter]
Hold on, let me-- all I'm saying is that, like--
I mean, like, for me, I'm just enjoying,
like, the journey and, like, the present.
- Sriracha, thanks so much for stopping by.
It is great to have your opinions and your thoughts
and also your love for your sister,
'cause I know you're looking out for her.
- I am. I'm looking out for both of them now.
Thank you for having me.
It was a pleasure to be here.
- All right. We'll see you soon.
Thanks. - Thank you.
- Sriracha doesn't play, does she?
- No. - No, right?
Right? You know. - Not at all.
- Be on your best behavior.
And Noi, for you, your parents worked so hard
and sacrificed so much for you to get to this point.
And how does that affect your marriage?
- Yeah, just seeing the example that my parents have set
for me and my siblings
has been really important
to the progress that we've had as a couple,
because there were moments where I was like,
"I don't know if we can get through this.
Like, this is really tough."
But I've seen my parents
fight through a lot of different issues,
so I think that really helped me understand
that, you know, marriage is something that you fight for.
It's something that you choose every day.
- I thought it was beautiful, when you told the story
about your mom coming home from work,
how it made you feel like,
"Oh, gosh, am I a burden to her?"
But that she did that for you.
- Yeah.
Seeing, like, these bloodstains on her face
from the chicken factory just made me so upset.
I don't want my parents
to ever have to work that hard.
And, you know, it made me feel like a burden,
because if they didn't have me and my siblings,
like, would they have to work like this?
- And when you think about that and how much she did for you,
does it also help your-- help your marriage?
♪ ♪
- Yeah, and I just think, like, if we can come from that
and, you know-- and they can raise kids
who end up happy and married and successful,
like, you know, why can't I do that too, you know?
- Yeah, and I think it's great you guys are in counseling.
You're doing-- taking all the right steps.
What is next for you guys? What's next?
- I think we're just gonna be enjoying each other
and just kinda settling into, like, married life
and living kind of a adventurous life together.
- I got to say, Noi and Steve, you look fabulous together.
It is great to have followed your journey.
And I'm so happy for you two.
Wish you all the best,
and get working on them three babies.
Now, this next couple was explosive.
Most of their first eight weeks of marriage
were marked by blowout fights,
but the sun came out at the end
and they rallied to stay married on Decision Day.
So let's find out what part of the roller coaster
they're on today.
Please welcome Lindsey and Mark.
- Hi. - Hello. Hello.
- Nice to see you again.
- [laughs] Good to see you.
Oh, yeah.
♪ ♪
There's a lot to talk about with you guys.
- Yeah. - And there's a lot to get to.
I want to start with a moment between you two,
because it seemed like everything was so promising
in the beginning of your relationship.
Do you agree?
- I definitely agree. - All right.
Let's watch this clip.
- So, Mark and Lindsey, I'd like you
to officially meet each other for the very first time.
- Hey, nice to meet you. - Hey, nice to meet you too.
- Mark, you may kiss Lindsey.
[cheers and applause]
[tender music]
- The first morning waking up Mr. and Mrs. MTS.
- Yeah, Mark the Shark. - Mark the Shark.
- Here I am. [both laugh]
- ♪ We could just vibe ♪
- I have to say, I have the best husband in the world.
I just love him so much.
- You're stuck with me. - Yeah.
- Forever. - That's true.
That's all I ever wanted, and I'm so grateful.
- [clicks tongue] Forever. - Forever.
♪ ♪
- How's it feel watching that?
- You know, I really felt connected to Mark
during the honeymoon.
I felt like he was a partner
who stood by me
and that we were a really solid team,
and I was really proud to call him my husband.
- You loved him.
You said you love him. - Mm-hmm.
He really supported me and stood by me.
And when I trust somebody,
I'm willing to just open up and be vulnerable to them.
And we had these awkward situations in the honeymoon.
I felt like Mark really stood by me and stood up for me.
And I felt really safe in his presence
and that he was somebody I could depend on and rely on.
And so I was really willing to open up my heart to him.
- It was just a really good chemistry,
like, out the gate for us.
It was just so authentic and it was so natural
and it flowed and it just--it clicked.
- Okay.
Lindsey, you guys fought a lot,
but you also had a lot of points
where you said, "I'm out. It's over."
- Mm-hmm. - "I'm done."
- Mark is on the outs for me.
Not sure he's gonna be able to get back in.
Right now, I'm at the point of no return,
and I'm not sure I can even give anything else here.
Would you like me to leave right now?
- If you want to-- - It's a yes or no question.
- If you want to!
- Was that a mistake?
- I just had a really hard time understanding who Mark was.
I felt like I got two sides of him.
The off-camera side is attached to his phone,
really just being super pessimistic.
- And then the on-camera guy wasn't the--
- Mark the Shark!
♪ ♪
- Mark, is that a true representation of who you were?
- No. Here's the thing.
In the beginning,
yeah, I was on my phone a little bit more often,
but then I realized how much she didn't like my phone,
that I pretty much never went on my phone
as much as I could because I knew how it bothered her.
I literally kept it away as much as I could
because I felt like it was a trigger.
- You're a pretty outgoing guy. She would say some things.
Why didn't you laugh some of those things off
or just be like, "Whatever"?
- The way I looked at it is,
I noticed her personality was a lot out the gate,
and it was one that I knew if I battled out the gate,
we'd be going tit for tat all day long. All day long.
I'm just gonna avoid it and walk away.
So I didn't talk back a lot because what's the point?
We're just trying to hurt each other.
That's all we're doing.
- One thing I also noticed is that you two had a hard time
owning up to your parts of these things.
Can you now own up to your part that you played?
And Mark, can you own up to the part you played
in your disagreements, your fights,
and sometimes when things got ugly?
- Yeah, I definitely think
that this is a point of self-reflection.
I said a lot of things that I wish I hadn't have said,
and I look at it as a learning point.
Let's give yourself a little grace
and learn from it and move forward.
- Mark, as you look back at things,
are there things you look at and you say,
"I should have handled that better"?
- I mean, I think in certain situations,
there were times I could've spoke up
and let her know where I'm at.
But, I mean, I think we came out stronger.
I think we came out better from what we have gone through.
- Why'd you stay married on Decision Day
if there was all these problems and it was so toxic?
- He really supported me and stood by me.
And I felt like we were a team, and that's what I wanted.
- So for me, I can say that every single week,
I had no clue where the next week was gonna go.
I couldn't plan anything for days
because it was so up and down.
But that last week, I saw a glimpse of what it could be.
You have pushed me to new things.
You have cared for me under tough conditions.
And...I appreciate that.
♪ ♪
I've been in past relationships
where I've gotten out and then realized
I had something really good.
And I thought to myself,
if I say no, knowing how she is,
and I make a mistake
and lose somebody that is potentially good for me,
I can't go back and undo that.
- I think the burning question that everyone is dying to know,
are you still Mrs. Mark the Shark?
[suspenseful music]
♪ ♪
- Absolutely not.
- "Absolutely not"? - Absolutely not.
- Mark? - No. Nope.
- No? - We're not together.
- What happened? - Ha!
Where should we begin? - Okay. Hold on.
What exactly happened, Mark, after Decision Day?
- What happened after Decision Day was,
we both worked on the house to get it ready.
And then we got a very bad blowout fight.
A lot of threats were made.
And that's when it started
to spiral from there a little bit.
Made it through one a month.
More spiraling fights happen. And that was it.
- So it was out of control. - Way out of control.
It was just some of the worst arguments
I've ever had in my life.
- Mm-hmm. Do you agree with that?
- It was Mark saying, "You know what?
"I just don't know about this.
"I don't know if I'm gonna want to be with you
or you're the person for me."
And I was like, "Mark, we just gave up my apartment.
"Somebody is moving in it today.
"Are you really gonna tell me
"before this last package is unpacked--
"after spending 6:00 a. m. to midnight
"hiring contractors, floor work,
doing everything-- that you're out?"
And he threatened to change the locks and charge me rent
and, you know, "I can kick you out of here.
"You have no rights.
I will have you removed from this home."
And I was like, "You're crazy, man.
I'm your wife."
I was just so shocked that he was so heartless
and cold and rude to me
after everything I had supported him through.
- Let me let--give him a chance to answer this.
Mark, what part of this hurts you?
- The part of it is, when you tell a story,
you don't tell it accurately, correctly,
or in the right context.
The fact that we fought every single week
and the fact that you went for my throat
in every single fight
is what caused me to say, "I'm out."
- What did she do to cause you to want her to get out?
- It was over, like, something on Instagram.
And she got right in my face,
pointed at me, threatening me, crazy threats.
"I will come for you. I will take this.
I will take this."
And just so much.
I was, like--I was shaken.
Like, I don't do well with confrontation.
I've been picked on a lot as a kid.
I would put Lindsey at the top
for the way I was threatened and bullied like that.
♪ ♪
- Hmm.
Lindsey, do you realize that,
yes, you were there for him a lot.
Do you also realize you're a fire starter?
- Mm-hmm.
- You know, you'll get mad and burn down the house.
And was that fair to Mark?
- Yeah.
You know, I said very early on in my matching,
like, I really need a strong man
who can stay up to me and say, "Uh-uh.
Don't do that. I don't like that."
And I really got that from Mark,
and that's part of why I really fell so deeply for him.
And I remember before Decision Day, he's like,
"We are not splitting up the family.
"We're moving into this house together.
"We're not splitting up the cats.
"We are a family and we're staying married
and we're gonna make this work forever."
And I was like, "Okay.
I didn't realize that he only meant
that was for the seven days that I helped him refinish
his three-family home.
- That has nothing to do with the marriage
and that's not even true.
- So you believe he was using you?
- Absolutely. Yeah.
♪ ♪
I actually, like, wrote down
what I wanted to say very clearly because
I think sometimes I get a little flustered.
Can I? - You can, please.
- Okay, so...
"It's always my heart's desire
"that when I leave a work situation,
"a friendship, or a relationship,
"I'm able to make something better.
"I truly believe that I made your life better.
"I was able to support you with your job loss.
"I refinished your three-family home
"and left it in better shape than it's been in in years.
"I cleaned out two generations of clutter.
"I helped support you during your loss of home and pet
"and encouraged you to pursue new job opportunities
"that have you now earning your highest salary of your life.
"I gave you the Lindsey effect and the Lindsey magic.
"I can't say that my life is better from knowing you.
"And I don't think you brought much to the table
"because you aren't other-focused.
"I'm glad that the magic of Lindsey was given to you.
"And I hope that you can take that
"and be generous to somebody else
because it's through giving that we actually receive."
- Mark, what do you think?
- I mean, I didn't know we were writing things.
I think Lindsey was part of a lot of things
that happened in a positive way,
but at the end of the day,
all the negative things don't just get washed off the table.
The fights that we had, the threats,
the way that they went, the explosiveness of them,
those will always outweigh the relationship
of where it could have went to.
Because we had that core.
We had that, "I'm gonna help you here.
You're gonna help me here."
But we also had these explosive triggers
that blew it up every time we were on a good path.
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- We've seen a lot of couples
that have had these explosive fights,
but they always found a way to come back together
so that the good outweighed the bad.
Why couldn't the good outweigh the bad?
- I felt like Mark was so focused
on the opinions of others,
that he was more interested in being liked by the men
and everybody versus respected and cared for by his wife.
And I felt like Mark is really influenced by his peers
and really wants to be liked and accepted.
- My whole thing was,
the arguments were just too much.
It's not healthy. I'm a positive guy.
There's too much negativity in the situation--
too many triggers to continue
with something that's not gonna grow.
- You've closed your Mark chapter.
- Mm-hmm. - What's new with you now?
- Well, I just rented a condo in Palo Alto
and took a fantastic job.
And so I just moved to San Francisco area.
- So wait, you moved to California?
- I did. I moved to California.
- Did you need the distance
to kind of put this chapter away?
- If I'm being really honest,
I feel as though I do better farther away from my family.
I want to go somewhere there's no snow,
I don't have people depending on me,
and I can just focus on Lindsey.
And also, I really value intellect.
And I feel like there's a great amount
of those types of people in Palo Alto and the Bay Area,
and I thought, better picking for a good man.
- Do you feel like that was
a little bit of a dig at Mark right there?
- No, I--that was literally why I moved.
- No, but you realize
that was a little bit of a dig right there--
that you said you needed a man that had intellect.
- Well-- - Did he not have--
you're saying he didn't have intellect?
- No, he does not have intellect.
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I'm really smart and really quick-witted.
And I need a man who's intelligent.
I said to them, "I don't do as well with creatives
as I do with intellectuals."
That's why I find myself with a lot of engineers
because they're very smart people,
and I'm usually not the smartest one
in my relationships, so they're really smart men.
- They're introverted. - Yeah.
But they're also strong and confident.
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- Lindsey, have you been dating?
- Yeah, I have been.
- Oh, yeah? - Yeah.
- How is that? - It was pretty nice.
- Yeah? - Yeah.
I had met somebody that I really liked.
They were really generous and romantic and super smart,
and I really enjoy their company.
- Mark, are you still looking for Mrs. Shark?
- Not right now.
Right now, I'm just trying to focus on work.
I'm in a new career.
I have another opportunity that's--that might work out.
You know, I've been in the fitness industry 15 years
and, you know, I just passed the firefighter test.
So I'm excited to hopefully get on a department
this year at some point,
but I don't want to go back to dating for a while.
I'm pretty good.
- Is there any chance you two will be friends?
- I have no desire to have him in my life.
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No. Why?
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- Mark.
- So if that's the case, you don't wanna be a friend,
that's fine, but like I said, when you left the apartment
after we had a really bad fight,
I said to your face, I wish you the best of luck in California.
I still do.
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- All right, listen, I hope that you two can get to a place
where that you have at least respect for each other.
That's it for tonight
in the "Married At First Sight" Boston reunion.
We've covered a lot,
but there is still so much more to discuss.
We will continue next time with part two.
You don't want to miss it.
Until then, thanks for watching,
and good night.
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Next time on part two
of the "Married at First Sight" Boston reunion...
- Well, I didn't know it was a bombshell, but, you know--
- Bombshell? Boom. Head exploded.
- I sat here today because I was told
I wouldn't feel like I was being attacked,
and I do feel that way.
- It's just a question.
- Katina, how do you handle Olajuwon these days?
- She don't take accountability for her own actions.
She's easy to point the finger
but never looks at herself before she makes her judgments.
- You cannot say that I did not try.
- So this is what I-- - I'm not done talking, please.
- Noi and Steve, did you guys work everything out?
- I don't know what to believe.
- When you lash out, you hit bone.
- This is the worst I've been bullied in my life.
- Oof, I have so many opinions.
- I know this is, like, a running joke,
me saying I'm, like, a good person all the time,
but I am a good person.
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- You probably should apologize to him.
He's right there.
- At least give him that apology
because he was good to you.
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