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- Hi.
- How you doing?
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- Don't shake my hand.
Give me a hug.
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- 10 fearless singles took
a daring chance on love.
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They married
as complete strangers.
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And in only three weeks,
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They'll have to make
a decision as to whether
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They'll stay married
or get a divorce.
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[dramatic music]
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Last time, our couples took
a deeper dive
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Into trust and intimacy
with their spouses.
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- ♪ tell me,
are you found or lost? ♪
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- Stacia and nate.
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- This exercise
is working
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To build trust, get closer.
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- Gotta pull that up
a little bit.
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- It's definitely
building trust,
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'cause I would not do this
with anybody else.
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- ♪ dance around, around
the crowd, they're smilin' ♪
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- Wait, wait, wait!
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- Krysten and mitch.
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- I like that.
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It's really great
to be intimate
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Without being intimate.
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I like that.
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- ♪ so dance, dance ♪
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- Lindy and miguel.
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- You're gonna cuddle it
more than me?
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- [laughs]
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- Miguel's a natural
with migindy.
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I can see that he'll
be a good baby daddy.
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♪ ♪
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- Morgan and binh.
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- Would you be able to accept
a full apology?
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- Yeah.
That would really show me
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That you're starting to, like,
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Really, really own up
to everything,
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That you've really understood.
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You say you feel guilty,
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But I don't feel
that you feel guilty.
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♪ ♪
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- Alexis and justin.
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- If it's a weekend,
I get parts of you.
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I get a few hours.
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And sometimes I want you
the whole weekend.
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And in your opinion,
that's smothering you.
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- I--I have friends.
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I would like to hang out
with them.
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That's it.
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♪ ♪
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- Tonight, we welcome
guest expert devon franklin
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And sit down with each couple
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To confront the truth
and any lingering questions
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They might have
about their marriage.
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- When I hear
something like that,
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It's just a little alarming,
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Because cheating is not really
a great thing.
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♪ ♪
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- You're never gonna have
a happy marriage
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If you're trying to control
who talks to her
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When, how, and where.
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- To me, this sounds like
your decision day.
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Do you feel, at this point,
that the marriage is over?
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♪ ♪
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- If you ever have a question
whether you have to choose me,
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Choose whatever else.
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- The last thing I want
for either one of us
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Is a loveless marriage.
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- It sounds like a threat
to me.
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- I think that if you
talk this over--
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- I'm gonna stop you
right there, dr. Pepper.
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I have had it!
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And I'm done.
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- This is all so blindsiding
to me.
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- Oh, my god!
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Is this blindsiding to anybody?
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♪ ♪
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- ♪ it's all or nothing ♪
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- This is
"married at first sight."
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- ♪ there's no other way ♪
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♪ ♪
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♪ it's all or nothing ♪
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- ♪ so real ♪
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♪ now this is how
the body should feel ♪
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♪ we gon' have a good time ♪
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- Hi, little migindy.
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- You're gonna put a hat
on him?
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- It seems like our time
is coming to a close.
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- Aww.
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- It's been real,
but I's gots to say
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Youse gots to go, little buddy.
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- I loved seeing you
interact with him.
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It was so cute.
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And you really did
the brunt of the parenting.
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- Even as our couples
understand
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The person they married
more and more each day,
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There are still challenges
that will continue to arise
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In their relationships.
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- So tired of being sad. Ugh.
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Gotta start one foot
in front of the other.
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We just have to get there.
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- These hurdles will have to
be understood and overcome...
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♪ ♪
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Because in just two weeks,
they will have to decide
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Whether to stay married
or get a divorce.
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- Okay, good luck
in the cruel, cruel world.
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See you later.
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♪ ♪
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Good [bleep] riddance,
you demon.
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No, just kidding.
[both laughing]
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[upbeat music]
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♪ ♪
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Both: Hi.
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- How are you?
- Good.
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- So good to see you.
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I'm really looking forward
to meeting up with stephanie.
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I've always jelled with her.
I really like her.
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She knows mitch really well,
and she knows what he needs.
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So I think that in these days
leading up to decision day,
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I think it's a great time
to meet with her.
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Both: Cheers.
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- I love that we're having
a one-on-one,
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'cause I feel like
we've hung out,
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But it's always been, like,
with the boys, basically.
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- Yeah.
It's hard to have, like, a--
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- A girl talk.
- Yeah.
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- Yeah.
Well, we can get into it.
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- Okay.
- [laughs]
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Right now, I think
we're both probably
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In the best spot we've been.
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But for me,
I struggled a little bit
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With his contrarianism.
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And that is one thing
that has been hard for me
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On the journey.
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- So I feel like sometimes,
like, he doesn't take
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The extra effort to think
about, like,
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"oh, how should I deliver it
nicely?"
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- Oh, yeah.
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- Years ago, right, like,
when he and I were, like,
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Still learning how
to, like, get along
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With each other--like,
I have very strong
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Opinions and perspectives.
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And, you know...
- You go, girl.
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- I will bend to no one.
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So it was like,
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Sometimes I feel like he and I
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Were at odds
because of the way
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That he presented things
sometimes.
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- Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
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- It felt, like, almost like
I naturally became defensive
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And, like, held my ground
because, like, he was coming,
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You know?
- Yeah.
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- And he's my brother-in-law,
so I, like, respect
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The things he's saying.
So there's, like,
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A lot of changes
that I've made.
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We don't use, like, the pouches
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And, like, the things
like that, right?
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- Yeah, yeah.
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- But we still use diapers.
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We are very conscious,
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But we're not to the level
that he is.
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And, like, he's changed
a lot with the way
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That he, like, communicates
and delivers.
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You know, and I think he's
also learned over the years,
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Though, that, like,
making people feel bad
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Is not the way to get change,
but more so,
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Like, presenting the why.
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- Yup.
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- Yeah, I don't know
if that helps.
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- No, that helps, actually.
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I just wanted to hear
that you--
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You kind of--
you noticed it too,
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But you guys were able
to work through it
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Based on your personalities
together.
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- Yeah.
- I want to be, you know,
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His co-pilot in the mission.
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I think I just need
more information.
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- You know, be really honest.
- Mm-hmm.
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- Put it out there.
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Like, it's scary to be
vulnerable,
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But just, like,
be really clear on, like,
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What are your things that,
like, you can't bend on
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And, like, what are the things,
like, your fears
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Of, like, the way things
have been?
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'cause I want him to be happy,
but I also want you to be happy
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Too, like, with both of you,
right?
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And it's like you're not
gonna be happy
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If both of you
aren't happy together.
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So just, like,
making it clear the things
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That you need from each other.
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And he has to be patient
for change.
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But at the same time,
don't, like,
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Delay saying what you want.
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♪ ♪
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[upbeat music]
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- ♪ yeah, I don't care
what anybody says ♪
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♪ about me,
I'm a go-getter ♪
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♪ pace setter, girl ♪
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♪ oh, me, I am the lead ♪
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♪ rock to the moon,
yeah, yeah ♪
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- All right. Hello.
- Hi.
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- You guys, how you doing?
- Doing well. How are you?
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- Good.
- Good.
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You guys ready
for some action today?
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- Yes, definitely.
- Oh, yeah. Ready to do it.
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- All right, let's go.
- Thank you.
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- Kiss my axe!
- Kiss my axe.
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- That's what I'm gonna be
saying to you when I beat you.
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♪ ♪
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So I start. We go from...
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Both: 1, 2, 3, 4, bullseye.
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- Yeah.
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- ♪ I got the right hook ♪
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- Ooh, that was almost.
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- ♪ no, I'm coming
with the fire ♪
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♪ but I leave you shook ♪
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- Yes, one.
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- ♪ yeah, that's all it took,
I'm gonna catch ya ♪
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♪ I bet I made you look ♪
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- Yes!
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- ♪ you don't have
to just arrive ♪
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♪ when it's understood
that no matter what ♪
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- I'm sucking.
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I suck at axe throwing,
apparently.
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- That's a three.
- Nice, you got it.
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Just didn't--I don't know,
I need to get--like,
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I can't be a man if I can't
throw an axe, you know?
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♪ ♪
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- ♪ and I break it
gotta win the trial ♪
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♪ hear me now ♪
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♪ it's gonna be a knockout ♪
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- I think that is four.
- That is a four!
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- Yeah.
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And here I am still on one.
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♪ ♪
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- Damn. Okay.
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[giggling]
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[axe thuds]
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Blue one. Damn, right.
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- And watch her get it
on the first [bleep] try.
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Nice!
- Yes!
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- Damn!
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That is incredible.
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Espn is gon--
you're gonna get called.
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No, for real.
- Am I gonna get sponsored?
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- What is that? Yo!
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She [bleep] whupped my ass.
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- I'm really happy
that you're not a sore loser.
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- It's hard to be a sore loser
when, at the end of the day,
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I feel like
I'm overall winning.
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The way I see it, and I'm
actually not even kidding,
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Like, my life is good...
- Aww.
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- Even though I suck
at axe throwing.
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- You're not bad, though.
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It's just I'm just
a little bit better.
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[laughs]
- you know what they say.
256
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If you're not number one,
it doesn't matter.
257
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- [laughs]
258
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Um...
259
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I still know that, like, we're
getting to know each other,
260
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But, like, I do feel us
growing closer every day,
261
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Like, the more
you do get to know me
262
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And the more I get to know you.
263
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- Right.
- But at the same time,
264
00:08:55,093 --> 00:08:57,369
You know, just as quickly
as we've connected,
265
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It's scary to think
that, like, if something
266
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Were to happen because, for me,
267
00:09:01,433 --> 00:09:02,356
There are so many feelings
there.
268
00:09:02,376 --> 00:09:03,767
- That's right, yeah.
269
00:09:03,785 --> 00:09:05,026
- Like, I just
would be afraid that,
270
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I don't know, just...
271
00:09:09,716 --> 00:09:12,366
Irrationally, something happens
and--I don't know.
272
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It's just a fear.
273
00:09:14,946 --> 00:09:17,463
It would be surprising
if there was an explosion,
274
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But it's just not--I guess
it's just not off the table
275
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Because there's just so much
unknown that could happen
276
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In the next few weeks
and months and years,
277
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Or whatever, you know.
I don't know.
278
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- You--here's the thing.
279
00:09:28,569 --> 00:09:31,811
Like, as romantic as I am,
I will never probably give you,
280
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"yes, don't worry.
281
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Like, you know, to forever."
282
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[tense music]
283
00:09:38,579 --> 00:09:40,653
'cause it just seems too cheap
to say that,
284
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'cause I don't know.
285
00:09:42,808 --> 00:09:43,990
♪ ♪
286
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- Okay. I can--I hear that.
287
00:09:45,827 --> 00:09:48,235
I don't like it,
but I accept it,
288
00:09:48,330 --> 00:09:50,313
And I respect that mindset.
289
00:09:50,332 --> 00:09:54,259
- Would you wanna be, like,
in a loveless marriage?
290
00:09:54,486 --> 00:09:58,597
- That's a tough question,
because you can always
291
00:09:58,748 --> 00:10:00,840
Find love again
if you work hard enough.
292
00:10:00,992 --> 00:10:02,767
- Okay, I disagree with you.
293
00:10:02,994 --> 00:10:05,103
I could be, like,
over the moon in love with you.
294
00:10:05,330 --> 00:10:06,420
But if you came to me one day
and you're like,
295
00:10:06,514 --> 00:10:09,441
"miguel, I am not happy."
296
00:10:09,668 --> 00:10:12,352
The last thing I want
for either one of us
297
00:10:12,504 --> 00:10:14,112
Is a loveless marriage.
298
00:10:14,263 --> 00:10:16,764
- Then we work on it.
- I would try to work on it.
299
00:10:16,783 --> 00:10:19,934
But what if we do work on it
and you're like, "I'm sorry--"
300
00:10:19,953 --> 00:10:21,286
- You're getting lost in the--
301
00:10:21,437 --> 00:10:23,179
You're stressing me out.
- I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
302
00:10:23,272 --> 00:10:25,457
- You're getting, like,
so far ahead.
303
00:10:25,684 --> 00:10:27,775
And, like, you're
spinning me out over here.
304
00:10:27,869 --> 00:10:30,036
- I know. I know.
305
00:10:30,130 --> 00:10:33,690
- Like, I internalize it as,
like, if I'm not providing you
306
00:10:33,708 --> 00:10:37,284
With the love you need,
if I'm not catering to you,
307
00:10:37,304 --> 00:10:38,619
Then you're out.
308
00:10:38,639 --> 00:10:39,529
That's what I hear.
- Right.
309
00:10:39,547 --> 00:10:40,621
- I'll be honest.
310
00:10:40,641 --> 00:10:41,865
It sounds like a threat to me.
311
00:10:41,883 --> 00:10:43,533
- Hmm. Well, I'm sorry.
312
00:10:43,551 --> 00:10:45,718
It's not a threat,
but--this is gonna
313
00:10:45,871 --> 00:10:48,313
Piss you off probably even
more--it's the reality of it.
314
00:10:48,540 --> 00:10:52,709
♪ ♪
315
00:10:52,727 --> 00:10:54,060
[upbeat music]
316
00:10:54,154 --> 00:10:56,062
- ♪ everything ♪
317
00:10:56,156 --> 00:10:58,898
♪ everything you want,
I'll do it for you ♪
318
00:10:59,050 --> 00:11:02,235
- Will. What's up, my guy?
- Hey, what's going on, boss?
319
00:11:02,329 --> 00:11:04,070
- Good to see you again.
- Good to see you too, man.
320
00:11:04,222 --> 00:11:05,830
Good to see you too.
321
00:11:06,057 --> 00:11:06,981
- I wanted to get married
at first sight
322
00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,649
And find my person.
323
00:11:08,669 --> 00:11:10,669
So I'm setting up a meeting
with will.
324
00:11:10,820 --> 00:11:12,003
We're gonna chop it up
and see if I can get
325
00:11:12,230 --> 00:11:14,172
Some perspective,
because I know how important
326
00:11:14,323 --> 00:11:15,581
Will is to alexis.
327
00:11:15,734 --> 00:11:16,991
And so getting
that perspective
328
00:11:17,010 --> 00:11:19,326
From somebody that's close
hits different.
329
00:11:19,346 --> 00:11:20,570
How's life treatin' you, man?
330
00:11:20,588 --> 00:11:22,739
- Life is good, man.
Can't complain.
331
00:11:22,832 --> 00:11:24,498
The real question
is how are you doing?
332
00:11:24,592 --> 00:11:25,909
- Man, I'll tell you what.
333
00:11:26,002 --> 00:11:28,261
Marriage is a beast, boy.
- Yeah?
334
00:11:28,413 --> 00:11:30,914
- That [bleep]
is just hard work.
335
00:11:31,007 --> 00:11:33,599
It's uncomfortable,
but it's good too.
336
00:11:33,752 --> 00:11:34,600
You know what I'm sayin'?
337
00:11:34,695 --> 00:11:36,010
We have good days.
338
00:11:36,029 --> 00:11:38,421
We've just been--
it's been rough.
339
00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,198
- Yeah.
340
00:11:40,349 --> 00:11:42,091
- You know the dog situation?
- Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
341
00:11:42,185 --> 00:11:43,943
- That's a real
sensitive subject.
342
00:11:44,037 --> 00:11:45,428
You know, I could've said,
"you know what?
343
00:11:45,521 --> 00:11:46,946
"hey, I'm keeping my dog.
[bleep] this.
344
00:11:47,098 --> 00:11:48,522
[bleep] this marriage,"
you know?
345
00:11:48,616 --> 00:11:50,375
But to me, it's worth it.
346
00:11:50,602 --> 00:11:52,435
It was important
that my wife was comfortable
347
00:11:52,454 --> 00:11:54,454
And that she felt secure
in her own home.
348
00:11:54,606 --> 00:11:56,272
And that's how I look at it.
349
00:11:56,291 --> 00:11:57,790
- I didn't know
that that was still
350
00:11:57,884 --> 00:12:01,052
Something that was lingering
in y'all's relationship, so...
351
00:12:01,204 --> 00:12:05,206
But you as a man did what
you thought you should do,
352
00:12:05,300 --> 00:12:06,632
What was best for your wife.
353
00:12:06,785 --> 00:12:09,227
And I think
she has to see that.
354
00:12:09,454 --> 00:12:10,729
- I ain't sayin'
I've been perfect.
355
00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,122
You know what I'm sayin'?
Like, I've [bleep] up.
356
00:12:13,141 --> 00:12:14,974
You know what I'm sayin'?
357
00:12:15,068 --> 00:12:17,235
I have to check my tone
sometimes when I talk to her.
358
00:12:17,386 --> 00:12:18,978
I told her I'm not
gonna curse at her.
359
00:12:19,130 --> 00:12:21,297
Sometimes I'll be cursing at
her, but I shouldn't do it.
360
00:12:21,316 --> 00:12:22,223
- Yeah.
- You know what I'm sayin'?
361
00:12:22,317 --> 00:12:23,908
Because I also wanna practice--
362
00:12:24,135 --> 00:12:25,910
If we do have kids together,
I don't wanna argue
363
00:12:26,062 --> 00:12:27,228
In front of our kids.
- Yeah.
364
00:12:27,247 --> 00:12:29,414
- What I'm learning
is we're communicating
365
00:12:29,565 --> 00:12:32,417
The exact same thing,
we want the same thing,
366
00:12:32,644 --> 00:12:34,160
But it's being communicated
differently
367
00:12:34,312 --> 00:12:35,661
And not understood.
368
00:12:35,756 --> 00:12:37,163
- I couldn't imagine.
369
00:12:37,315 --> 00:12:38,923
I couldn't imagine
being in y'all's shoes
370
00:12:39,075 --> 00:12:42,318
And doing it the way
that you all have done it.
371
00:12:42,337 --> 00:12:45,671
I think that, you know, y'all
are just experiencing so much
372
00:12:45,766 --> 00:12:47,840
In so little time and it's
so much pressure that, like,
373
00:12:47,993 --> 00:12:49,492
You know, yeah,
the good is good,
374
00:12:49,585 --> 00:12:52,328
But I think just
the fear and the pressure
375
00:12:52,347 --> 00:12:54,272
Makes the bad even worse.
376
00:12:54,499 --> 00:12:55,940
- Real.
377
00:12:56,092 --> 00:12:58,167
- There you go.
- Mmm.
378
00:12:58,261 --> 00:12:59,444
- Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you.
379
00:12:59,595 --> 00:13:02,447
But I think she really wants
to be in this too.
380
00:13:02,598 --> 00:13:03,931
And I think, again,
she's just scared,
381
00:13:03,950 --> 00:13:05,525
I think--I hope or, you know?
382
00:13:05,619 --> 00:13:07,268
And I think that's
what makes the bad worse.
383
00:13:07,287 --> 00:13:09,862
But you do everything
that I feel like lex
384
00:13:10,015 --> 00:13:10,938
Always wanted in a man.
385
00:13:10,957 --> 00:13:12,515
You're such a gentleman.
386
00:13:12,534 --> 00:13:15,685
Like, you know,
you're passionate, you know.
387
00:13:15,703 --> 00:13:18,521
And you're funny, you know.
You know.
388
00:13:18,540 --> 00:13:20,447
So that's just all
things that, like,
389
00:13:20,542 --> 00:13:22,801
I know lex looks for in men.
390
00:13:23,028 --> 00:13:24,618
And you definitely
give her that.
391
00:13:24,712 --> 00:13:26,453
So I think it's just that fear.
392
00:13:26,473 --> 00:13:28,364
You gotta get past that fear.
393
00:13:28,383 --> 00:13:31,200
- But if I know she's in it,
then I'm in it.
394
00:13:31,219 --> 00:13:33,127
- Yeah.
- You know what I'm saying?
395
00:13:33,221 --> 00:13:37,223
My fear is if I see any sign
of, like, she don't know,
396
00:13:37,375 --> 00:13:39,208
It just, like, makes me scared,
you know.
397
00:13:39,227 --> 00:13:40,985
But it's gonna be hard.
398
00:13:41,137 --> 00:13:43,988
And that's my biggest fear,
her just quittin'.
399
00:13:44,215 --> 00:13:46,049
- Yeah.
400
00:13:46,067 --> 00:13:47,641
- Honestly, I think I'm
traumatized from, you know,
401
00:13:47,735 --> 00:13:49,160
Women just quittin' on me.
402
00:13:49,312 --> 00:13:50,720
And I'm just like, "damn."
403
00:13:50,738 --> 00:13:53,498
But sometimes
the grass ain't greener.
404
00:13:53,649 --> 00:13:55,149
I want this [bleep], bruh.
405
00:13:55,168 --> 00:13:57,168
I dead-ass want this [bleep].
406
00:13:57,395 --> 00:13:58,670
♪ ♪
407
00:14:02,843 --> 00:14:04,400
♪ hit the ground running,
everybody's coming ♪
408
00:14:04,419 --> 00:14:06,493
♪ move fast, who that,
you mad? ♪
409
00:14:06,588 --> 00:14:09,255
- So we're kinda getting ready.
- She's already on top of it.
410
00:14:09,349 --> 00:14:10,923
I'm still looking dusty.
411
00:14:11,017 --> 00:14:12,258
But it's okay.
412
00:14:12,410 --> 00:14:13,743
I'ma get there.
[both laughing]
413
00:14:13,836 --> 00:14:15,854
- With decision day
around the corner,
414
00:14:16,005 --> 00:14:18,764
This will be the final chance
for our couples
415
00:14:18,917 --> 00:14:20,692
To meet with the experts.
416
00:14:20,843 --> 00:14:23,252
And we've invited
guest expert devon franklin
417
00:14:23,271 --> 00:14:25,029
To offer his advice as well.
418
00:14:25,256 --> 00:14:29,367
- I'm getting ready
to go see dr. Pepper.
419
00:14:29,518 --> 00:14:32,853
She's always very, very kind
and patient and helpful.
420
00:14:32,873 --> 00:14:36,040
And I always say we need
professional help over here.
421
00:14:36,192 --> 00:14:39,043
- It's important for them
to confront the truth
422
00:14:39,270 --> 00:14:41,621
Within themselves
and with their partner,
423
00:14:41,715 --> 00:14:44,549
And examine
lingering questions they have
424
00:14:44,700 --> 00:14:47,960
So that they can work
through them in time
425
00:14:48,113 --> 00:14:52,281
To feel good about saying yes
on decision day.
426
00:14:52,300 --> 00:14:55,209
- ♪ at the start, boy,
you were kinda sweet ♪
427
00:14:55,228 --> 00:14:57,395
♪ making eyes at me,
doing shots at the party ♪
428
00:14:57,622 --> 00:14:59,713
♪ but you're stressed out,
taking over me ♪
429
00:14:59,733 --> 00:15:03,735
- Since decision day
is kind of quickly approaching,
430
00:15:03,886 --> 00:15:05,811
I really wanna make sure
that krysten and I have
431
00:15:05,906 --> 00:15:08,573
The same--that we can see
eye to eye about what
432
00:15:08,724 --> 00:15:10,057
Decision day means for us.
433
00:15:10,076 --> 00:15:13,319
- I want to get
to a place where
434
00:15:13,471 --> 00:15:17,064
It is, like, a full yes from
both of us on decision day.
435
00:15:17,158 --> 00:15:19,083
I really wanna get there.
436
00:15:19,235 --> 00:15:20,493
- Hi there.
- Hi, dr. Pepper.
437
00:15:20,645 --> 00:15:23,237
- Nice to see you.
- You too.
438
00:15:23,256 --> 00:15:28,501
- What our task is today
is for me to help you navigate
439
00:15:28,653 --> 00:15:31,504
Some of the things
that worry you so that you
440
00:15:31,598 --> 00:15:35,491
Can be truthful to each other,
but I can be helpful.
441
00:15:35,510 --> 00:15:37,827
So wanna start?
442
00:15:37,845 --> 00:15:39,270
- I have a few.
- Okay.
443
00:15:39,422 --> 00:15:40,605
- Should I go
through all of them?
444
00:15:40,756 --> 00:15:43,015
- Well, let's start with one.
- Okay.
445
00:15:43,109 --> 00:15:45,109
- And then we'll try and go
back and forth until--
446
00:15:45,261 --> 00:15:47,445
- Yeah, we can start
a little lighter
447
00:15:47,596 --> 00:15:49,430
And get a little deeper,
if that's okay.
448
00:15:49,524 --> 00:15:51,098
- Okay.
- Yeah.
449
00:15:51,117 --> 00:15:54,935
- Mitch is a advocate
for the environment.
450
00:15:55,029 --> 00:15:56,454
Did I say that correctly?
451
00:15:56,605 --> 00:15:58,681
Okay, yes.
452
00:15:58,700 --> 00:16:00,700
Which I think is wonderful.
453
00:16:00,852 --> 00:16:03,444
And he's educated me,
and I want to continue
454
00:16:03,538 --> 00:16:06,205
Educating myself on our habits.
455
00:16:06,357 --> 00:16:12,119
But I just wanna make sure
I'm comfortable,
456
00:16:12,213 --> 00:16:13,379
You're comfortable.
457
00:16:13,531 --> 00:16:16,382
A good example
would be sometimes
458
00:16:16,476 --> 00:16:21,220
I do find myself feeling guilty
for my iced lattes.
459
00:16:21,372 --> 00:16:23,815
♪ ♪
460
00:16:28,062 --> 00:16:30,396
- Yeah, I've noticed that
you like to get iced lattes.
461
00:16:30,490 --> 00:16:33,324
I mean, I've supported you
doing what you want to do
462
00:16:33,476 --> 00:16:35,067
And what makes you happy.
- Okay.
463
00:16:35,220 --> 00:16:36,886
- You know, is that gonna break
the marriage
464
00:16:36,979 --> 00:16:38,738
If you forget your reusable cup
one day?
465
00:16:38,890 --> 00:16:40,814
It's not.
- Mm-hmm.
466
00:16:40,908 --> 00:16:45,728
- But will it mean a lot to me
to see that you're showing up
467
00:16:45,747 --> 00:16:47,396
A little bit in a way
that makes me
468
00:16:47,415 --> 00:16:49,415
Proud to have you beside me?
469
00:16:49,567 --> 00:16:53,069
It would.
470
00:16:53,087 --> 00:16:55,662
- Is there anything
that, you know,
471
00:16:55,682 --> 00:17:01,519
You want to do in your life
that he might feel upset about
472
00:17:01,670 --> 00:17:04,263
Because of those
particular values?
473
00:17:04,415 --> 00:17:05,690
- There is.
474
00:17:05,917 --> 00:17:10,361
I think we have
an unsolved disagreement.
475
00:17:10,588 --> 00:17:13,773
We never really circled back
or finalized
476
00:17:13,867 --> 00:17:18,261
How I have a dream
of owning my own business.
477
00:17:18,279 --> 00:17:24,617
I want to flip houses
and resell them.
478
00:17:24,769 --> 00:17:26,878
Fix them up,
put new windows in, new floors,
479
00:17:27,029 --> 00:17:29,772
Stage them
with reusable furniture
480
00:17:29,865 --> 00:17:32,199
That we would put
in all the homes,
481
00:17:32,218 --> 00:17:34,110
And then resell them.
482
00:17:34,128 --> 00:17:36,462
That's the business idea,
essentially.
483
00:17:36,614 --> 00:17:39,282
And it was such a sensitive
topic, I feel like, for us.
484
00:17:39,300 --> 00:17:41,634
We never closed the door on it.
485
00:17:41,786 --> 00:17:44,711
♪ ♪
486
00:17:44,731 --> 00:17:46,455
- What's the problem?
487
00:17:46,549 --> 00:17:49,125
- Um, there's
a big intersection
488
00:17:49,143 --> 00:17:51,294
Between environmental
sustainability
489
00:17:51,387 --> 00:17:54,480
And social justice and class
490
00:17:54,574 --> 00:17:57,391
And urbanism, I guess,
and the way to develop.
491
00:17:57,410 --> 00:17:58,801
You know,
development in the city,
492
00:17:58,894 --> 00:18:01,137
Like, it all intersects
at some point.
493
00:18:01,155 --> 00:18:06,400
And I had concern that kind
of, like, flipping houses
494
00:18:06,419 --> 00:18:11,314
To make a profit could be
something that kinda competes
495
00:18:11,407 --> 00:18:13,833
With working families,
you know,
496
00:18:13,985 --> 00:18:15,760
Just normal people
who are trying to buy a house
497
00:18:15,987 --> 00:18:17,762
And maybe can't afford
the flipped house,
498
00:18:17,989 --> 00:18:20,339
But they can afford
the non-flipped house.
499
00:18:20,491 --> 00:18:22,325
♪ ♪
500
00:18:22,343 --> 00:18:26,345
- I think there's a way
501
00:18:26,497 --> 00:18:30,757
To not put
the whole big picture...
502
00:18:30,852 --> 00:18:32,443
- Yeah.
- On her shoulders.
503
00:18:32,595 --> 00:18:33,760
[laughter]
- yeah, you're right.
504
00:18:33,780 --> 00:18:35,262
I think--
I mean, that's not fair.
505
00:18:35,356 --> 00:18:37,173
I'm just kind of, like...
506
00:18:37,191 --> 00:18:39,358
And I don't wanna be the
person--a big part of my work
507
00:18:39,452 --> 00:18:43,121
Is to not blame individuals
for larger societal problems,
508
00:18:43,272 --> 00:18:47,032
Right, 'cause that never
is constructive, usually.
509
00:18:47,185 --> 00:18:51,687
So I don't wanna put
this whole societal issue
510
00:18:51,706 --> 00:18:54,799
On your shoulders
and for you to think
511
00:18:54,950 --> 00:18:57,376
It's your responsibility
to solve it.
512
00:18:57,528 --> 00:18:59,362
Again, this just comes back
to me and the way
513
00:18:59,380 --> 00:19:00,805
I think and view the world.
514
00:19:01,032 --> 00:19:03,641
There's always the dark side
of everything we do,
515
00:19:03,792 --> 00:19:05,459
Right, if we're gonna be,
like, simple about it.
516
00:19:05,478 --> 00:19:07,478
Like, carbon footprint,
a waste footprint,
517
00:19:07,630 --> 00:19:09,480
Human suffering footprint,
518
00:19:09,632 --> 00:19:11,816
There's always a dark side
of everything we do,
519
00:19:11,967 --> 00:19:13,651
Whether you're a sculptor,
a real estate agent,
520
00:19:13,878 --> 00:19:17,155
An environmental guy,
you drive, whatever it is.
521
00:19:17,306 --> 00:19:19,732
And it's not necessarily
our fault as individuals.
522
00:19:19,884 --> 00:19:22,160
It's just that in society,
that dark side
523
00:19:22,311 --> 00:19:25,237
Is never given any notice.
524
00:19:25,390 --> 00:19:29,909
So I guess my follow-up
question is, like,
525
00:19:30,061 --> 00:19:31,227
Can you handle that?
526
00:19:31,245 --> 00:19:32,728
Like, do you want that?
527
00:19:32,747 --> 00:19:33,896
'cause, like,
you know what I mean?
528
00:19:33,915 --> 00:19:35,506
Like, that's a lot.
Like, that's...
529
00:19:35,658 --> 00:19:38,992
I think that
for a lot of people,
530
00:19:39,012 --> 00:19:41,495
They probably wouldn't want
that person in their life,
531
00:19:41,514 --> 00:19:43,163
Always reminding them
532
00:19:43,257 --> 00:19:45,408
Or reminding us of
533
00:19:45,501 --> 00:19:47,927
The consequences
of our actions.
534
00:19:48,021 --> 00:19:51,022
♪ ♪
535
00:19:51,173 --> 00:19:53,082
- There's
a serious question there.
536
00:19:53,100 --> 00:19:55,584
You know, the core of who he is
537
00:19:55,678 --> 00:19:58,604
Is trying to make
the world better
538
00:19:58,698 --> 00:20:03,092
And seeing the circumstances
under which there are choices.
539
00:20:03,110 --> 00:20:07,854
And he's saying,
can you support that?
540
00:20:07,874 --> 00:20:10,950
[tense music]
541
00:20:11,102 --> 00:20:14,528
♪ ♪
542
00:20:14,547 --> 00:20:21,052
- So that is a really good
segue into my final issue.
543
00:20:21,203 --> 00:20:23,629
I--I don't know.
544
00:20:23,781 --> 00:20:27,225
♪ ♪
545
00:20:31,397 --> 00:20:33,456
♪ ♪
546
00:20:33,474 --> 00:20:39,311
- I value synergy and optimism
and friendships.
547
00:20:39,405 --> 00:20:43,074
And when I meet someone,
548
00:20:43,301 --> 00:20:45,134
I'm kind of avoiding,
initially,
549
00:20:45,227 --> 00:20:47,227
All their "bad qualities,"
550
00:20:47,247 --> 00:20:49,472
And I'm only fixated
on their good.
551
00:20:49,565 --> 00:20:53,476
And your contrarianism
does affect me.
552
00:20:53,494 --> 00:20:55,586
♪ ♪
553
00:20:55,813 --> 00:20:58,739
I think it's very good
in so many ways,
554
00:20:58,833 --> 00:21:00,983
Especially in saving the world.
555
00:21:01,002 --> 00:21:03,502
Maybe I'm just looking
for help from you,
556
00:21:03,654 --> 00:21:08,340
Honestly, on how--
how to make sure
557
00:21:08,434 --> 00:21:14,105
That I can be the person
who can be there for you.
558
00:21:14,332 --> 00:21:19,593
I know I want to,
but I know that it's
559
00:21:19,687 --> 00:21:24,173
Really affected me when you do
show me the dark side.
560
00:21:24,266 --> 00:21:28,844
- So one thing
I would have you think of
561
00:21:28,937 --> 00:21:31,438
Is how much growth
you've already done
562
00:21:31,532 --> 00:21:33,516
In a very short period of time.
563
00:21:33,609 --> 00:21:35,108
And why wouldn't you think
564
00:21:35,128 --> 00:21:38,537
There would be more
as you go along?
565
00:21:38,631 --> 00:21:40,447
There will be.
566
00:21:40,541 --> 00:21:42,041
- Again,
I just wanna make sure--
567
00:21:42,193 --> 00:21:45,194
And this goes back
to my whole, you know,
568
00:21:45,212 --> 00:21:48,864
Freakin' proclamation of being
the dark side guy or whatever.
569
00:21:48,883 --> 00:21:51,700
- Yeah.
- I wanna just make sure, like,
570
00:21:51,794 --> 00:21:53,627
Like, if we continue
this journey,
571
00:21:53,721 --> 00:21:56,889
Like, that's me thinking,
like, that doesn't go away.
572
00:21:57,041 --> 00:21:59,708
Maybe I'm more respectful
about it.
573
00:21:59,727 --> 00:22:02,153
Maybe I'm more supportive about
it, but it never goes away.
574
00:22:02,380 --> 00:22:05,564
♪ ♪
575
00:22:05,658 --> 00:22:09,218
She could easily think,
"well, you know what?
576
00:22:09,311 --> 00:22:11,829
Maybe my ideal husband,
I don't have to worry
577
00:22:11,980 --> 00:22:13,331
Or deal with that at all."
578
00:22:13,558 --> 00:22:15,074
'cause there's a lot of guys
out there
579
00:22:15,226 --> 00:22:17,168
Who don't think about
any of this stuff.
580
00:22:17,319 --> 00:22:19,745
- Well,
they didn't show up yet.
581
00:22:19,839 --> 00:22:23,323
[laughter]
582
00:22:23,417 --> 00:22:24,508
- True.
- Very true.
583
00:22:24,735 --> 00:22:26,418
- I mean, there's always
the ideal guy
584
00:22:26,512 --> 00:22:28,737
Who comes with no issues
585
00:22:28,831 --> 00:22:30,589
And the ideal woman
who's just perfect
586
00:22:30,683 --> 00:22:32,758
On these ideals that you share
587
00:22:32,910 --> 00:22:34,668
And is crummy
in some other way.
588
00:22:34,687 --> 00:22:37,246
I mean, we can never fulfill
an endless list.
589
00:22:37,264 --> 00:22:38,747
- Yeah.
590
00:22:38,841 --> 00:22:41,174
- That's what keeps people
single.
591
00:22:41,268 --> 00:22:42,693
Are there things
that are differences?
592
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,528
You bet.
593
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,698
But the question is, you know,
if the commitment's
594
00:22:47,850 --> 00:22:50,201
Still there and if you feel
there's enough core things
595
00:22:50,428 --> 00:22:52,761
That make your life better
together than not.
596
00:22:52,780 --> 00:22:54,780
- Mm-hmm.
597
00:22:54,932 --> 00:22:56,599
- Now, I don't know
what else is inside
598
00:22:56,617 --> 00:22:58,267
That you wanna talk about,
'cause this is
599
00:22:58,360 --> 00:22:59,710
A good time to talk about it.
600
00:22:59,937 --> 00:23:02,938
- Um...
601
00:23:02,957 --> 00:23:07,885
I had a question about
what decision day means to you
602
00:23:08,036 --> 00:23:10,221
And what it takes.
603
00:23:10,448 --> 00:23:13,057
You know, like,
we haven't said I love you.
604
00:23:13,284 --> 00:23:16,452
We've actually kind of
put the brakes
605
00:23:16,545 --> 00:23:19,638
On the sex life
a little bit recently.
606
00:23:19,732 --> 00:23:23,401
And do you still have
those same standards
607
00:23:23,552 --> 00:23:26,962
For decision day or have you
changed them a little bit?
608
00:23:26,981 --> 00:23:29,240
And the reason I ask
is 'cause for me, like,
609
00:23:29,391 --> 00:23:33,727
If we really feel like we're--
like our journey isn't over yet
610
00:23:33,821 --> 00:23:35,896
And there's still progress
to be made
611
00:23:35,915 --> 00:23:38,064
And we still feel like
we're in it,
612
00:23:38,084 --> 00:23:41,977
That's pretty much
gonna be enough for me.
613
00:23:42,070 --> 00:23:45,906
- I said that the day
after you told me
614
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,817
That you were not attracted
to me on the honeymoon.
615
00:23:48,911 --> 00:23:52,337
So I look at decision day
way different
616
00:23:52,490 --> 00:23:55,433
Because of how far
we've both come.
617
00:23:55,660 --> 00:23:58,994
We've made our own progress
that actually works
618
00:23:59,087 --> 00:24:02,665
For what really matters
in a marriage.
619
00:24:02,683 --> 00:24:07,594
So I think I'm actually
on the same page as you now.
620
00:24:07,613 --> 00:24:11,932
So I think
we'll figure out the sex.
621
00:24:12,026 --> 00:24:14,618
In terms of the love, I think
the only outstanding thing
622
00:24:14,845 --> 00:24:18,363
I have that I--and ask
would just be
623
00:24:18,458 --> 00:24:21,366
That you are committed
to try and fall in love
624
00:24:21,519 --> 00:24:23,185
And will let down your walls
625
00:24:23,278 --> 00:24:24,462
To fall in love with me
specifically.
626
00:24:24,689 --> 00:24:26,964
I don't need an "I'm in love
with you right now,"
627
00:24:27,191 --> 00:24:30,617
But I do need
a hope for commitment
628
00:24:30,711 --> 00:24:33,286
To see yours--
being open to get there.
629
00:24:33,380 --> 00:24:34,788
- Yeah, absolutely.
630
00:24:34,882 --> 00:24:35,956
- Do you feel that way?
631
00:24:36,050 --> 00:24:37,457
- Yeah, I do feel that way.
632
00:24:37,477 --> 00:24:39,702
I'm open
to falling in love with you.
633
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,205
I'm open to continuing
to work on our marriage.
634
00:24:43,298 --> 00:24:44,815
And I'm glad that you are too.
635
00:24:45,042 --> 00:24:46,484
- Thank you. Thanks.
- You're welcome.
636
00:24:48,136 --> 00:24:50,062
- Sorry, lipstick.
637
00:24:50,156 --> 00:24:52,715
- I've said that I'm afraid
of falling in love before
638
00:24:52,808 --> 00:24:54,658
Because, you know,
with falling in love
639
00:24:54,885 --> 00:24:58,220
Does come the opportunity
to get hurt.
640
00:24:58,239 --> 00:24:59,738
It could be coddled,
but it could also be
641
00:24:59,890 --> 00:25:02,224
Smashed with a sledgehammer.
642
00:25:02,243 --> 00:25:04,059
But I'm a lot more willing
to go all in.
643
00:25:04,078 --> 00:25:06,411
I'll do the work.
644
00:25:06,506 --> 00:25:11,250
- Within the most recent days,
I really, really wanna spend
645
00:25:11,402 --> 00:25:13,827
The next couple--
whatever amount of time
646
00:25:13,846 --> 00:25:17,756
Before decision day
devoted to being all in,
647
00:25:17,908 --> 00:25:20,259
Completely
letting down my walls,
648
00:25:20,353 --> 00:25:23,503
Ready to just accept--
649
00:25:23,523 --> 00:25:28,417
Love, accept you,
be vulnerable.
650
00:25:28,510 --> 00:25:30,936
And today
has been very helpful.
651
00:25:31,088 --> 00:25:33,272
I've said the things
I was worried about.
652
00:25:33,366 --> 00:25:36,091
You had magnificent responses.
653
00:25:36,110 --> 00:25:37,760
And I feel really good.
654
00:25:37,778 --> 00:25:43,690
♪ ♪
655
00:25:43,784 --> 00:25:45,191
[upbeat music]
656
00:25:45,286 --> 00:25:48,287
- ♪ looking for love ♪
657
00:25:48,381 --> 00:25:51,031
♪ for love, yeah ♪
658
00:25:51,125 --> 00:25:53,959
♪ looking for love ♪
659
00:25:54,053 --> 00:25:55,702
♪ for love ♪
660
00:25:55,721 --> 00:25:57,221
- Hey, hey.
- Hi. Good to see you.
661
00:25:57,448 --> 00:25:59,965
- Good to see you too.
- I love your suit.
662
00:26:00,117 --> 00:26:01,116
- Wow, look at you
with the pink.
663
00:26:01,209 --> 00:26:02,059
- You're matching
with the pink.
664
00:26:02,210 --> 00:26:03,786
- Wait, wait.
665
00:26:03,804 --> 00:26:05,729
You understood the assignment.
[laughter]
666
00:26:05,956 --> 00:26:07,380
No. What's up?
- Hey. How you doing?
667
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,883
- How you doing?
668
00:26:09,977 --> 00:26:11,143
You guys look incredible.
669
00:26:11,237 --> 00:26:12,477
- Oh, thank you.
670
00:26:12,630 --> 00:26:13,645
- We wanted to impress you,
671
00:26:13,798 --> 00:26:14,554
Was the only reason
at the time.
672
00:26:14,648 --> 00:26:15,722
- And you've done that.
673
00:26:15,816 --> 00:26:17,316
So here we are.
674
00:26:17,468 --> 00:26:19,059
And, you know, we get reports,
of course,
675
00:26:19,153 --> 00:26:20,578
Of everything
that's been going on.
676
00:26:20,805 --> 00:26:22,729
I heard about some
of your conversations
677
00:26:22,748 --> 00:26:24,473
And some of your exercises,
which I found
678
00:26:24,491 --> 00:26:26,232
To be quite interesting
679
00:26:26,252 --> 00:26:27,734
And a little embarrassing
to me.
680
00:26:27,828 --> 00:26:29,661
But...[laughs]
- what? Embarrassing?
681
00:26:29,814 --> 00:26:30,588
- Which one?
- Which one?
682
00:26:30,739 --> 00:26:32,314
- I said to me.
- Why?
683
00:26:32,333 --> 00:26:34,817
- Well, the sex...Toys.
684
00:26:34,910 --> 00:26:37,002
- Oh, so you ain't a freak?
[laughter]
685
00:26:37,096 --> 00:26:39,245
- Look--'cause--look.
686
00:26:39,265 --> 00:26:40,656
You know, 'cause the last time
I was with you guys,
687
00:26:40,674 --> 00:26:41,599
You guys had not had sex.
688
00:26:41,826 --> 00:26:42,933
Both: Right.
689
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:44,935
- And since then,
I understand, you know...
690
00:26:45,162 --> 00:26:46,829
- We have, yeah.
- The sky's the limit.
691
00:26:46,922 --> 00:26:48,922
- Yeah.
- But no, but check this out.
692
00:26:49,016 --> 00:26:52,776
So what I wanna know actually,
though, is in regards to that.
693
00:26:53,003 --> 00:26:56,004
You guys, you have
great affection for each other
694
00:26:56,098 --> 00:26:57,263
Because we were
talking about love
695
00:26:57,283 --> 00:26:59,174
And we were talking
about how we view it.
696
00:26:59,267 --> 00:27:00,266
And I gave you my opinion.
697
00:27:00,361 --> 00:27:01,601
I believe that love
698
00:27:01,695 --> 00:27:04,363
Ultimately comes to a decision.
699
00:27:04,457 --> 00:27:06,531
It has to.
700
00:27:06,626 --> 00:27:09,351
My question is where are
you guys in regards to that?
701
00:27:09,444 --> 00:27:12,463
Has there been some
concrete decisions
702
00:27:12,690 --> 00:27:15,040
Or words that have
sort of solidified
703
00:27:15,134 --> 00:27:16,708
What you feel for each other?
704
00:27:16,802 --> 00:27:19,361
- I mean, I definitely feel
like I've made
705
00:27:19,454 --> 00:27:21,530
The commitment part of it.
706
00:27:21,623 --> 00:27:24,383
I do have, like,
those feelings as well.
707
00:27:24,477 --> 00:27:26,385
- What feelings?
708
00:27:26,537 --> 00:27:29,796
- Where I love him
and, like, I love him
709
00:27:29,815 --> 00:27:32,040
Through all the bad times
and, like,
710
00:27:32,134 --> 00:27:33,892
Showing him unconditional love
711
00:27:34,044 --> 00:27:35,711
To get through
all of that stuff.
712
00:27:35,804 --> 00:27:36,987
- You just said, "I love him."
713
00:27:37,214 --> 00:27:38,155
Have you ever told him that
before?
714
00:27:38,382 --> 00:27:39,490
- Yeah.
715
00:27:39,717 --> 00:27:41,158
- And have you
ever reciprocated?
716
00:27:41,385 --> 00:27:44,903
- Um...
717
00:27:44,997 --> 00:27:47,480
I haven't reciprocated
with, like, "I love you."
718
00:27:47,500 --> 00:27:49,983
But, you know,
I admire my wife.
719
00:27:50,002 --> 00:27:52,169
You know, I said that to her
a couple of days ago.
720
00:27:52,396 --> 00:27:56,398
And I think admiration
ties into love
721
00:27:56,491 --> 00:28:00,402
Because all the qualities
that stacia has,
722
00:28:00,495 --> 00:28:05,090
It's amazing,
and I'm happy about that.
723
00:28:05,184 --> 00:28:08,744
- Have you ever felt
like saying I love you
724
00:28:08,762 --> 00:28:11,004
And then stopped yourself
from saying it?
725
00:28:11,098 --> 00:28:12,505
- A few times, yes.
726
00:28:12,599 --> 00:28:14,082
- What stopped you?
727
00:28:14,101 --> 00:28:15,526
- Um...
728
00:28:15,753 --> 00:28:18,086
I think I'm waiting
for the right moment.
729
00:28:18,180 --> 00:28:20,698
- Sure.
- And one of the insecurities
730
00:28:20,925 --> 00:28:23,701
Is just, like, me falling
in love and getting hurt.
731
00:28:23,928 --> 00:28:25,610
- Yeah.
732
00:28:25,705 --> 00:28:29,540
Does that--does that come
from anything in your history?
733
00:28:29,767 --> 00:28:31,375
You know, have you
ever been cheated on?
734
00:28:31,526 --> 00:28:34,211
- Not that I know of.
- Okay.
735
00:28:34,362 --> 00:28:37,272
- But this is marriage,
so we're gonna be together
736
00:28:37,365 --> 00:28:38,774
For years and years and years.
737
00:28:38,792 --> 00:28:40,459
You know, there could be
more opportunities...
738
00:28:40,611 --> 00:28:41,960
- Yeah.
- For that stuff.
739
00:28:42,054 --> 00:28:43,962
- Okay. No, no, I agree.
740
00:28:44,056 --> 00:28:45,113
What about you?
741
00:28:45,132 --> 00:28:46,372
Your insecurities
742
00:28:46,392 --> 00:28:47,783
Were pretty much
the same thing.
743
00:28:47,876 --> 00:28:48,784
- Yeah.
- And of course,
744
00:28:48,877 --> 00:28:49,893
You've been hurt in the past.
745
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,304
You have been cheated on.
- Oh, yeah.
746
00:28:52,456 --> 00:28:53,880
- And you have not cheated.
747
00:28:53,899 --> 00:28:55,048
- No, I have.
- You have cheated?
748
00:28:55,142 --> 00:28:56,382
- Mm-hmm.
- Okay.
749
00:28:56,477 --> 00:28:58,477
[tense music]
750
00:28:58,629 --> 00:29:00,720
- It happened
10-plus years ago,
751
00:29:00,740 --> 00:29:04,575
So it's not--
I'm not that person anymore.
752
00:29:04,802 --> 00:29:06,301
- So tell me a little bit
about what--
753
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:07,819
Does that--
how do you feel about that?
754
00:29:07,913 --> 00:29:09,638
Or it doesn't make
a difference at this point?
755
00:29:09,656 --> 00:29:12,732
- Um...
756
00:29:12,752 --> 00:29:15,143
Just a little bit
of disappointment,
757
00:29:15,162 --> 00:29:17,312
You know,
because I'm married to somebody
758
00:29:17,331 --> 00:29:19,664
That has had that experience
in the past.
759
00:29:19,817 --> 00:29:23,168
- But you're disappointed
about something
760
00:29:23,262 --> 00:29:25,912
That happened with her
10 years ago, plus.
761
00:29:26,006 --> 00:29:29,674
- Um...I see her a certain way.
762
00:29:29,769 --> 00:29:33,662
You know, I'm proud
to have stacia as my wife.
763
00:29:33,755 --> 00:29:35,105
And...
- And you should be.
764
00:29:35,332 --> 00:29:37,423
- And, you know, when I hear
something like that,
765
00:29:37,518 --> 00:29:40,611
It's just a little alarming
because I see her as, like,
766
00:29:40,838 --> 00:29:45,007
A great woman, and cheating
is not really a great thing.
767
00:29:45,100 --> 00:29:47,267
- How do you feel about that?
768
00:29:47,286 --> 00:29:50,621
I mean, do you feel
comfortable or safe to share?
769
00:29:50,848 --> 00:29:53,031
- It's--it's shaky.
770
00:29:53,125 --> 00:29:54,958
- Tell me more.
771
00:29:55,110 --> 00:29:57,853
- I don't know what's
gonna happen the next time.
772
00:29:57,871 --> 00:29:59,521
- What next time?
773
00:29:59,614 --> 00:30:01,690
- If I share information,
am I gonna get judged?
774
00:30:01,783 --> 00:30:04,134
- But you've pretty much
bore your soul.
775
00:30:04,286 --> 00:30:05,527
You told him.
776
00:30:05,620 --> 00:30:07,120
I mean, there's nothing else.
777
00:30:07,214 --> 00:30:09,956
- No, I mean, I wanna know,
like, what is so terrible
778
00:30:09,975 --> 00:30:11,716
And I can tell you
if I've done it or not.
779
00:30:11,811 --> 00:30:13,477
- If you're wondering,
780
00:30:13,704 --> 00:30:15,461
"well, she hasn't told me
everything,"
781
00:30:15,481 --> 00:30:16,721
The question is,
does she need to?
782
00:30:16,816 --> 00:30:19,541
- ♪ my heart ♪
783
00:30:19,634 --> 00:30:22,302
♪ can't take any more damage ♪
784
00:30:22,396 --> 00:30:23,821
♪ any more damage ♪
785
00:30:27,660 --> 00:30:29,976
♪ ♪
786
00:30:30,070 --> 00:30:31,662
- After you.
You can go first.
787
00:30:31,889 --> 00:30:33,405
- Thank you.
788
00:30:33,557 --> 00:30:35,073
This place is cute.
Good choice.
789
00:30:35,225 --> 00:30:37,483
- Thank you.
790
00:30:37,503 --> 00:30:39,227
- Cheers. [laughs]
- cheers.
791
00:30:39,246 --> 00:30:42,080
♪ ♪
792
00:30:42,174 --> 00:30:46,009
So yeah, how's it going?
793
00:30:46,161 --> 00:30:47,344
Give me the dirt on lindy.
794
00:30:47,495 --> 00:30:48,253
What do you have to tell me
about her?
795
00:30:48,405 --> 00:30:49,680
- The dirt on lindy?
796
00:30:49,831 --> 00:30:50,906
My, like, longest time with her
was when we went
797
00:30:50,924 --> 00:30:52,424
To costa rica together.
798
00:30:52,576 --> 00:30:54,017
That was when we discovered
she gets hangry very easily.
799
00:30:54,244 --> 00:30:55,501
- Okay.
800
00:30:55,521 --> 00:30:57,596
She has yet to get hangry
with me.
801
00:30:57,690 --> 00:30:59,915
I don't know if it's 'cause
I'm constantly feeding her
802
00:30:59,933 --> 00:31:03,602
Or if she's, you know,
if she's feeding off the love
803
00:31:03,754 --> 00:31:05,362
We have in the relationship.
804
00:31:05,513 --> 00:31:06,864
- So you guys are in love?
805
00:31:07,091 --> 00:31:09,015
- Yeah.
806
00:31:09,034 --> 00:31:10,926
- That's gross.
- [laughs]
807
00:31:11,019 --> 00:31:12,611
- Ugh.
- Ugh. [laughs]
808
00:31:12,763 --> 00:31:14,354
- I mean, she's very easy
to love, I think.
809
00:31:14,448 --> 00:31:16,448
Is--yeah, right?
- Yeah.
810
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,876
I mean, that's why I became
friends with her so quickly.
811
00:31:19,027 --> 00:31:20,526
She's easy to be around.
- Mm-hmm.
812
00:31:20,621 --> 00:31:23,213
- Most of the time. [laughs]
813
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,941
- I love her sense of humor,
her outgoingness.
814
00:31:26,034 --> 00:31:27,867
She's very--
- she's very goofy.
815
00:31:27,961 --> 00:31:30,036
It's fun.
- Super goofy.
816
00:31:30,055 --> 00:31:32,705
- Is there anything that you're
finding that you're, like,
817
00:31:32,799 --> 00:31:35,726
Not sure if it's gonna work
if, like, she continues
818
00:31:35,877 --> 00:31:36,727
To do some of that stuff?
Or is there--
819
00:31:36,954 --> 00:31:38,544
- Yeah.
820
00:31:38,564 --> 00:31:39,971
That's a great question.
821
00:31:40,065 --> 00:31:41,473
I think that, to be honest,
like, it's funny
822
00:31:41,567 --> 00:31:43,400
Because everything
was sunshine and rainbows
823
00:31:43,551 --> 00:31:46,886
Up until the experts thought
to give us a baby.
824
00:31:46,980 --> 00:31:50,132
This baby would actually cry,
like, every two hours
825
00:31:50,225 --> 00:31:52,392
At night, so, like,
you're trying
826
00:31:52,411 --> 00:31:56,321
To rest from all the stresses
and decompress and whatnot.
827
00:31:56,473 --> 00:31:58,640
And I think that maybe
brought to surface
828
00:31:58,659 --> 00:32:00,918
A little bit of, like, how we
handle challenges differently.
829
00:32:01,145 --> 00:32:02,994
I was saying, like,
her quick to anger.
830
00:32:03,088 --> 00:32:05,330
She was going from a to z
in terms of, like,
831
00:32:05,424 --> 00:32:06,831
Getting ramped up.
832
00:32:06,984 --> 00:32:08,333
- I've noticed that.
833
00:32:08,485 --> 00:32:09,985
- You have?
- Mm-hmm.
834
00:32:10,003 --> 00:32:11,169
- Okay, okay,
tell me more about it.
835
00:32:11,263 --> 00:32:12,654
Yeah.
- I mean,
836
00:32:12,747 --> 00:32:14,431
There's been just, like,
a couple of times
837
00:32:14,582 --> 00:32:16,416
At work where I'll be talking
about something
838
00:32:16,510 --> 00:32:20,345
That, like, somehow,
she ends up taking a little bit
839
00:32:20,497 --> 00:32:22,088
Personally, even though
in my head, I don't think
840
00:32:22,107 --> 00:32:23,440
I'm talking about her at all.
841
00:32:23,667 --> 00:32:25,108
I think I'm just talking
about something that I'm
842
00:32:25,260 --> 00:32:26,592
Irritated with at work.
- Interesting.
843
00:32:26,612 --> 00:32:28,278
So she gets like defensive or?
844
00:32:28,505 --> 00:32:29,671
- Yeah.
845
00:32:29,764 --> 00:32:30,614
But, I mean, it's
never been super big.
846
00:32:30,841 --> 00:32:31,949
- Right.
847
00:32:32,176 --> 00:32:33,508
What I have noticed though,
too,
848
00:32:33,601 --> 00:32:35,510
Is that as quick as she is
to anger,
849
00:32:35,603 --> 00:32:36,845
She's also quick
to kind of, like,
850
00:32:36,863 --> 00:32:38,363
The cycle of negativity
type thing.
851
00:32:38,457 --> 00:32:40,515
There is decision day.
852
00:32:40,608 --> 00:32:42,200
- Decision day
is a trigger word for me.
853
00:32:42,294 --> 00:32:44,127
- Right.
- I hate it.
854
00:32:44,279 --> 00:32:46,371
I know we should talk about it.
I can't.
855
00:32:46,523 --> 00:32:47,613
I, like, just don't.
856
00:32:47,708 --> 00:32:49,040
I don't wanna hear about it.
857
00:32:49,193 --> 00:32:51,209
I don't need your insurance.
858
00:32:51,361 --> 00:32:54,304
If I get hit by a car
and you can't even help me
859
00:32:54,456 --> 00:32:57,365
See a [bleep] physician--
so if you can't do that,
860
00:32:57,459 --> 00:32:59,292
Then how the [bleep]
do you expect me
861
00:32:59,386 --> 00:33:01,386
To take your last name, miguel?
862
00:33:01,538 --> 00:33:02,871
How?
863
00:33:02,964 --> 00:33:04,723
Oh, yeah,
that awkward conversation
864
00:33:04,817 --> 00:33:06,374
We had right after the--
865
00:33:06,393 --> 00:33:07,392
- Why--everything you say
866
00:33:07,544 --> 00:33:08,376
Is, like, negative.
867
00:33:08,395 --> 00:33:09,894
What the [bleep]?
868
00:33:09,989 --> 00:33:11,730
The last thing I want
for either one of us
869
00:33:11,882 --> 00:33:13,139
Is a loveless marriage.
870
00:33:13,158 --> 00:33:14,807
And you're like, "I'm sorry--"
871
00:33:14,827 --> 00:33:15,900
- You're getting lost in that.
872
00:33:15,995 --> 00:33:16,827
You're stressing me out.
873
00:33:17,054 --> 00:33:18,386
- I'm sorry.
874
00:33:18,405 --> 00:33:20,146
- You're getting,
like, so far ahead.
875
00:33:20,165 --> 00:33:22,148
And, like, you're
spinning me out over here.
876
00:33:22,242 --> 00:33:23,391
- I know. I know.
877
00:33:23,485 --> 00:33:25,410
It's just, like,
the negativity.
878
00:33:25,562 --> 00:33:29,564
And, like, I just truly want
her to work through whatever
879
00:33:29,583 --> 00:33:33,068
It is that triggers her,
like, to process it internally
880
00:33:33,086 --> 00:33:35,570
And make peace with it so she
doesn't have those outbursts,
881
00:33:35,589 --> 00:33:37,405
So she's not quick to anger,
you know.
882
00:33:37,424 --> 00:33:39,516
- Yeah, she definitely
is one of those people
883
00:33:39,667 --> 00:33:40,851
That kinda needs a little
bit of reassurance sometimes.
884
00:33:41,078 --> 00:33:42,427
- Yeah.
885
00:33:42,521 --> 00:33:43,687
- But she's usually
pretty happy-go-lucky
886
00:33:43,838 --> 00:33:44,688
And positive all the time.
887
00:33:44,839 --> 00:33:46,264
- I've noticed that, yeah.
888
00:33:46,358 --> 00:33:47,098
And, like, in the beginning,
I noticed that
889
00:33:47,192 --> 00:33:48,525
Right off the bat.
890
00:33:48,752 --> 00:33:51,436
And I think that's why
I've been kind of, like,
891
00:33:51,588 --> 00:33:53,772
A little surprised.
892
00:33:53,924 --> 00:33:58,593
Like, everything should not be
triggering you to that extent.
893
00:33:58,612 --> 00:34:02,855
Like, I cannot be--I can't feel
that I have to be censored.
894
00:34:02,875 --> 00:34:07,360
I don't know if it registers
as a full-blown deal breaker,
895
00:34:07,454 --> 00:34:09,212
But it would put me on edge.
896
00:34:09,364 --> 00:34:11,273
It would, like, push me--
push us apart.
897
00:34:11,291 --> 00:34:14,867
♪ ♪
898
00:34:14,961 --> 00:34:19,798
[upbeat music]
899
00:34:19,892 --> 00:34:21,707
- So we're meeting
with the experts today.
900
00:34:21,727 --> 00:34:22,967
We don't know who it is.
901
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,544
I'm really hopeful.
902
00:34:24,563 --> 00:34:26,955
I'm gonna try to remain calm,
903
00:34:26,973 --> 00:34:28,957
Be adult enough to be like,
"look."
904
00:34:28,975 --> 00:34:30,716
You know, I don't need to say
something hurtful just 'cause
905
00:34:30,736 --> 00:34:32,143
Somebody said
something to hurt me
906
00:34:32,237 --> 00:34:35,130
Or passive aggressive or,
you know, just on attack mode.
907
00:34:35,148 --> 00:34:38,057
I'm trying to be on offense,
you know,
908
00:34:38,077 --> 00:34:39,034
'cause we're on the same team.
909
00:34:41,914 --> 00:34:43,413
- What's up, y'all? Hey.
910
00:34:43,565 --> 00:34:44,989
How you doin'?
911
00:34:45,084 --> 00:34:47,492
- Dr. Pepper and I
brought in devon franklin
912
00:34:47,586 --> 00:34:51,146
Because devon has spent
a great portion of his life
913
00:34:51,164 --> 00:34:52,923
Encouraging
and helping people to see
914
00:34:53,074 --> 00:34:55,241
Their own worth and value.
915
00:34:55,335 --> 00:34:58,077
We believe this will be vital
in helping alexis and justin,
916
00:34:58,097 --> 00:35:00,322
Not only to develop
themselves personally,
917
00:35:00,340 --> 00:35:03,325
But also seeing value
in their spouse.
918
00:35:03,418 --> 00:35:06,252
- You know,
dr. Pepper and pastor cal,
919
00:35:06,271 --> 00:35:07,938
You know, sent me, and I said,
920
00:35:08,089 --> 00:35:10,107
"I think I can help
my brother and my sister out."
921
00:35:10,334 --> 00:35:11,182
- I appreciate. I appreciate.
- So I'm here.
922
00:35:11,335 --> 00:35:12,334
- Yeah.
- It's good to see y'all.
923
00:35:12,352 --> 00:35:13,926
- You too, man.
- You know,
924
00:35:13,946 --> 00:35:16,095
And dr. Pepper and pastor cal
have kinda given me
925
00:35:16,115 --> 00:35:18,506
A lot of insight to you all
and just trying to, you know,
926
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,358
Give me the--
what's really going on.
927
00:35:20,510 --> 00:35:24,696
And so let's talk
about the club.
928
00:35:24,848 --> 00:35:26,865
- If it's a weekend,
I get parts of you.
929
00:35:26,959 --> 00:35:28,625
I get a few hours.
930
00:35:28,852 --> 00:35:30,276
And sometimes I want you
the whole weekend.
931
00:35:30,295 --> 00:35:32,537
And in your opinion,
that's smothering you.
932
00:35:32,689 --> 00:35:33,797
- I--I have friends.
933
00:35:34,024 --> 00:35:35,540
I would like to hang out
with them.
934
00:35:35,634 --> 00:35:40,286
- Tell me the feeling
that being in that environment
935
00:35:40,305 --> 00:35:41,638
Gives you emotionally,
936
00:35:41,789 --> 00:35:43,306
- I have such a tough job.
937
00:35:43,533 --> 00:35:47,035
And I have to be
in control so much
938
00:35:47,053 --> 00:35:51,389
That just to let loose and just
let my hair down, I love it.
939
00:35:51,541 --> 00:35:54,467
I love kind of--
just that freedom.
940
00:35:54,561 --> 00:35:55,877
- We're gonna go a step deeper.
941
00:35:55,896 --> 00:35:58,062
How free do you feel
in your marriage?
942
00:35:58,157 --> 00:36:01,491
- I--I feel smothered.
943
00:36:01,718 --> 00:36:03,551
- How does it make you feel
when you hear that?
944
00:36:03,570 --> 00:36:05,220
- It's hurtful.
945
00:36:05,313 --> 00:36:06,738
- I'm sorry.
- What about it hurts you?
946
00:36:06,890 --> 00:36:09,407
- Well, I mean, 'cause
I don't wanna smother her.
947
00:36:09,559 --> 00:36:11,168
You know, I want her
to have her freedom.
948
00:36:11,319 --> 00:36:14,412
I've always never wanted
to be that guy, you know?
949
00:36:14,564 --> 00:36:17,490
And to, like, to hear it,
I'm like, "damn, I'm that guy."
950
00:36:17,509 --> 00:36:19,901
- So this is why
I wanna get beyond.
951
00:36:19,994 --> 00:36:21,994
Like, the club--
it's not about that.
952
00:36:22,014 --> 00:36:25,573
It's about, in my marriage,
I'm repressed.
953
00:36:25,667 --> 00:36:27,184
- Yes.
- What would your marriage need
954
00:36:27,411 --> 00:36:30,078
To look like
for your marriage to represent
955
00:36:30,171 --> 00:36:31,354
The freedom
that you really want?
956
00:36:31,506 --> 00:36:33,023
[soft music]
957
00:36:33,250 --> 00:36:35,934
- Um, just us
doin' it together.
958
00:36:36,028 --> 00:36:37,936
- What's the it? What's the it
you're talking about?
959
00:36:38,030 --> 00:36:39,362
- I wanna take all that life
has to offer,
960
00:36:39,514 --> 00:36:42,032
Whether that's traveling,
whether that's hiking,
961
00:36:42,183 --> 00:36:44,367
Whether that's extreme sports,
just anything--
962
00:36:44,594 --> 00:36:46,185
- Okay, wait, hold up.
Do you like traveling?
963
00:36:46,205 --> 00:36:47,186
- Mm-hmm, I love traveling.
- Okay, great.
964
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:48,187
Do you like hiking?
- Mm-hmm.
965
00:36:48,281 --> 00:36:49,522
- Okay, great. Keep going.
966
00:36:49,541 --> 00:36:50,207
Do you like extreme sports?
- Yes.
967
00:36:50,358 --> 00:36:51,433
- Okay, great.
968
00:36:51,451 --> 00:36:53,435
♪ ♪
969
00:36:53,528 --> 00:36:54,694
Not only are there
commonalities,
970
00:36:54,788 --> 00:36:56,880
Not only is there a connection,
971
00:36:57,031 --> 00:36:59,365
But it seems like you have
a strong commitment
972
00:36:59,459 --> 00:37:01,051
To her freedom.
- Mm-hmm.
973
00:37:01,202 --> 00:37:04,054
- So I would really encourage
you to spend some time.
974
00:37:04,281 --> 00:37:08,116
What's the best, freest,
securest version of "we"
975
00:37:08,134 --> 00:37:09,559
That we can create?
- Okay.
976
00:37:09,786 --> 00:37:12,229
- And what are those activities
that fuel that?
977
00:37:12,456 --> 00:37:13,788
Because as individuals,
you've been in the "me"
978
00:37:13,807 --> 00:37:15,123
For so long, you're like,
979
00:37:15,216 --> 00:37:16,641
"yo, it's about me
against the world."
980
00:37:16,793 --> 00:37:19,719
And it's like, "no, no,
now it's we against the world."
981
00:37:19,738 --> 00:37:21,479
Let's figure out what that is.
982
00:37:21,573 --> 00:37:23,798
Now, justin, is there
anything wrong with your wife
983
00:37:23,817 --> 00:37:25,575
Wanting to feel free?
- No.
984
00:37:25,727 --> 00:37:28,152
- So you have no problem
with the feelings
985
00:37:28,305 --> 00:37:30,638
That she gets from the club?
986
00:37:30,732 --> 00:37:32,565
- If I had to give
a short answer,
987
00:37:32,584 --> 00:37:34,642
I think it's I feel like
988
00:37:34,736 --> 00:37:36,586
I have a potential chance
of losing her.
989
00:37:36,813 --> 00:37:38,480
♪ ♪
990
00:37:38,573 --> 00:37:39,998
- I'm proud of you.
- This is great.
991
00:37:40,150 --> 00:37:42,984
- I'm so proud of you.
- [laughs]
992
00:37:43,077 --> 00:37:44,094
- We're just gonna pause,
all right?
993
00:37:44,245 --> 00:37:45,336
- I'm sweatin' over here.
- Sweat is good.
994
00:37:45,430 --> 00:37:46,821
It means you care.
995
00:37:46,914 --> 00:37:48,748
It means he cares.
- I understand.
996
00:37:48,767 --> 00:37:51,101
- So you're never gonna have
a happy marriage
997
00:37:51,328 --> 00:37:54,420
If you're trying to control
who talks to her
998
00:37:54,439 --> 00:37:55,663
When, how, and where.
999
00:37:55,682 --> 00:37:56,756
- Fair.
1000
00:37:56,850 --> 00:37:58,683
- Right now, it's the club.
1001
00:37:58,835 --> 00:38:00,351
Tomorrow, it could be the gym.
- [laughs]
1002
00:38:00,445 --> 00:38:02,261
- The day after that,
it could be church.
1003
00:38:02,355 --> 00:38:04,689
- Yeah.
- It never ends.
1004
00:38:04,841 --> 00:38:07,266
- I discovered that I have
some insecurities.
1005
00:38:07,286 --> 00:38:08,693
I discovered
that I'm controlling.
1006
00:38:08,845 --> 00:38:10,678
Did not catch that.
1007
00:38:10,772 --> 00:38:12,271
But when he painted
that picture,
1008
00:38:12,365 --> 00:38:14,866
I was just like, "damn,
that is really controlling.
1009
00:38:15,018 --> 00:38:16,776
Is that me?"
1010
00:38:16,795 --> 00:38:18,870
- Now, y'all, they told me
something else,
1011
00:38:18,964 --> 00:38:20,297
And I just gotta--
1012
00:38:20,448 --> 00:38:21,280
- It's about us not having sex,
right?
1013
00:38:21,374 --> 00:38:22,799
- That's it!
How did you know?
1014
00:38:22,950 --> 00:38:24,692
- Because that's
what everything is about.
1015
00:38:24,711 --> 00:38:26,044
- [laughing, clapping]
but no--but no--
1016
00:38:26,138 --> 00:38:27,620
But here's the truth.
1017
00:38:27,714 --> 00:38:28,954
Here's the truth.
1018
00:38:28,974 --> 00:38:31,049
If a couple is not having sex,
1019
00:38:31,143 --> 00:38:33,626
It's because there's
an imbalance of power
1020
00:38:33,720 --> 00:38:35,645
A lot of times in the marriage.
1021
00:38:35,797 --> 00:38:39,223
- So I'm dominant
in my regular life and my job.
1022
00:38:39,376 --> 00:38:41,300
So for me, in the bedroom,
I wanna be dominated.
1023
00:38:41,394 --> 00:38:42,301
- Talk to me, my brother.
1024
00:38:42,395 --> 00:38:44,045
- I am a dominant person,
1025
00:38:44,064 --> 00:38:46,898
But I'm only dominant
if the energy is reciprocated.
1026
00:38:47,050 --> 00:38:48,900
And so what happens
is I get turned off.
1027
00:38:49,052 --> 00:38:51,052
If the energy
just is not there,
1028
00:38:51,071 --> 00:38:53,496
Sometimes I'll get insecure
and I'm like, "oh, okay."
1029
00:38:53,723 --> 00:38:56,407
And so it just feels like
it's just me, you know,
1030
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,393
If that makes sense.
1031
00:38:58,411 --> 00:38:59,819
- I feel like
I'm talking to myself.
1032
00:38:59,838 --> 00:39:02,505
- [laughs]
- I had to stop
1033
00:39:02,732 --> 00:39:07,344
Looking at my wife for signs
and just say,
1034
00:39:07,571 --> 00:39:11,664
"the 'we' is a sexually
fulfilled marriage."
1035
00:39:11,683 --> 00:39:14,851
What she's wanting
is that confident justin.
1036
00:39:15,078 --> 00:39:16,744
And so part of that confidence,
my brother,
1037
00:39:16,838 --> 00:39:19,263
Is literally looking
in the mirror
1038
00:39:19,416 --> 00:39:22,508
And loving
who looks back at you.
1039
00:39:22,602 --> 00:39:25,362
- I wanted to get married
at first sight to be loved,
1040
00:39:25,589 --> 00:39:29,366
And I definitely feel
like it would be important
1041
00:39:29,517 --> 00:39:32,777
To consummate the marriage
before decision day.
1042
00:39:32,929 --> 00:39:36,431
There's something about
knowing that someone is yours
1043
00:39:36,449 --> 00:39:38,875
And having that freedom
to just explore everything
1044
00:39:39,102 --> 00:39:42,545
You wanted to intimately
and sexually that,
1045
00:39:42,697 --> 00:39:44,789
I don't know, it just makes
the bond stronger.
1046
00:39:44,883 --> 00:39:48,943
- Marriage is, like,
as beautiful as it is,
1047
00:39:49,036 --> 00:39:52,055
It's a mirror,
and you butt naked.
1048
00:39:52,206 --> 00:39:54,782
And you are reflecting,
you know, repression,
1049
00:39:54,876 --> 00:39:56,300
And you're reflecting
insecurity.
1050
00:39:56,453 --> 00:39:58,620
Okay, that's okay.
Nothing wrong with that.
1051
00:39:58,638 --> 00:40:01,564
But in order to heal it, it's
not trying to fix the mirror.
1052
00:40:01,716 --> 00:40:02,957
- It's trying to fix them.
1053
00:40:03,050 --> 00:40:03,641
- It's not trying
to fix the mirror.
1054
00:40:03,735 --> 00:40:05,050
It's trying to fix this.
1055
00:40:05,145 --> 00:40:08,129
- ♪ run away with me ♪
1056
00:40:08,148 --> 00:40:09,406
♪ run away with me ♪
1057
00:40:13,319 --> 00:40:19,657
♪ yeah, I'll give you
that green light ♪
1058
00:40:19,751 --> 00:40:22,252
- Hello.
- Hi.
1059
00:40:22,479 --> 00:40:24,145
- I'm nervous to see
dr. Pepper today.
1060
00:40:24,164 --> 00:40:25,813
If this marriage
doesn't work out,
1061
00:40:25,832 --> 00:40:27,590
It would be devastating,
because my parents,
1062
00:40:27,817 --> 00:40:29,834
You know, they come
from a very religious
1063
00:40:29,986 --> 00:40:32,411
Background and a very
traditional background
1064
00:40:32,431 --> 00:40:35,673
With that, and I'm not sure
their reactions--
1065
00:40:35,825 --> 00:40:38,435
I know my mom will love me
no matter what.
1066
00:40:38,662 --> 00:40:40,845
But my dad, he's always
been rough on me.
1067
00:40:40,997 --> 00:40:42,163
He's always been tough on me.
1068
00:40:42,256 --> 00:40:44,332
So I don't take marriage
lightly.
1069
00:40:44,350 --> 00:40:47,001
I, for sure,
don't take divorce lightly.
1070
00:40:47,020 --> 00:40:49,446
And I think that would
be really heartbreaking.
1071
00:40:49,597 --> 00:40:53,691
- I wanna start with,
what do you think
1072
00:40:53,843 --> 00:40:57,603
In a relationship brings out
the best in you?
1073
00:40:57,622 --> 00:41:01,273
- It brings out a softer side
of me with the right person,
1074
00:41:01,293 --> 00:41:03,960
With the right person
that I can trust,
1075
00:41:04,187 --> 00:41:06,037
Because that softer side of me
is the part
1076
00:41:06,189 --> 00:41:08,798
That I don't show everyone.
1077
00:41:08,950 --> 00:41:12,469
I only show that to people
who I really, really trust.
1078
00:41:12,620 --> 00:41:14,879
But I know that
with the right person,
1079
00:41:15,031 --> 00:41:17,198
That side of me does come out.
1080
00:41:17,217 --> 00:41:20,368
♪ ♪
1081
00:41:20,386 --> 00:41:24,706
- Binh, we understand
that you were overwhelmed
1082
00:41:24,724 --> 00:41:27,633
And somewhat in a panic
in the front part of this--
1083
00:41:27,652 --> 00:41:30,378
Well, maybe throughout
this marriage.
1084
00:41:30,396 --> 00:41:33,490
But certainly,
some of the things you did
1085
00:41:33,717 --> 00:41:37,552
Were very, very judgmental
and distrusting.
1086
00:41:37,570 --> 00:41:39,996
The whole thing about
whether or not she was a nurse
1087
00:41:40,147 --> 00:41:42,665
Was off the charts, right?
- Mm-hmm.
1088
00:41:42,817 --> 00:41:44,225
- Hold on. Let me just--
1089
00:41:44,244 --> 00:41:46,911
I just wanna prove a point
right now.
1090
00:41:47,063 --> 00:41:48,838
And I've been wanting
to prove this point.
1091
00:41:49,065 --> 00:41:50,823
This is great.
Are you ready for this?
1092
00:41:50,917 --> 00:41:53,826
Camera, please zoom in.
1093
00:41:53,845 --> 00:41:56,679
That's my license.
That's my license.
1094
00:41:56,831 --> 00:41:58,348
That's public information.
1095
00:41:58,499 --> 00:42:00,499
I didn't have to log in
to find this.
1096
00:42:00,519 --> 00:42:03,019
I didn't have to search some
crazy [bleep] for this, okay?
1097
00:42:03,170 --> 00:42:04,670
That's googleable.
1098
00:42:04,689 --> 00:42:06,689
This is my googleable
[bleep] license.
1099
00:42:06,916 --> 00:42:10,918
- When I think of
our last time together,
1100
00:42:10,937 --> 00:42:15,514
He's been accepting
100% of the damage.
1101
00:42:15,534 --> 00:42:19,594
I mean,
he's been truly apologizing.
1102
00:42:19,612 --> 00:42:22,187
And I know earlier,
you didn't believe in it.
1103
00:42:22,207 --> 00:42:23,856
I don't know if you
believe in it now.
1104
00:42:23,875 --> 00:42:26,601
And I don't know
how that makes you feel.
1105
00:42:26,619 --> 00:42:30,046
- It's hard to believe
when he is apologizing
1106
00:42:30,197 --> 00:42:31,939
Just because it's--
1107
00:42:31,958 --> 00:42:34,959
He's never come to me
on his own and apologized.
1108
00:42:35,053 --> 00:42:38,871
Every time he's apologized,
it's been very prompted.
1109
00:42:38,890 --> 00:42:41,724
But I haven't gotten
that, like, remorseful, like,
1110
00:42:41,876 --> 00:42:44,561
"oh, my god, I wish I'd
have done things differently.
1111
00:42:44,712 --> 00:42:47,138
Like, I feel how much pain--"
you know?
1112
00:42:47,290 --> 00:42:50,066
I haven't felt that from him.
1113
00:42:50,217 --> 00:42:52,551
It's been very--there's been
a disconnect there, so I--
1114
00:42:52,571 --> 00:42:54,553
Maybe in the future,
that'll come,
1115
00:42:54,573 --> 00:42:57,965
That really heartfelt,
one-on-one, private apology.
1116
00:42:57,984 --> 00:43:00,802
But so far,
I just haven't gotten that yet.
1117
00:43:00,820 --> 00:43:03,729
♪ ♪
1118
00:43:03,748 --> 00:43:05,564
- Well, I can't give you
a private moment
1119
00:43:05,584 --> 00:43:07,141
Here, right now.
1120
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,902
But, binh, I'm curious as well,
1121
00:43:09,921 --> 00:43:13,664
And I think your wife
should know.
1122
00:43:13,758 --> 00:43:17,985
How has it felt for you
to be, in all these weeks,
1123
00:43:18,004 --> 00:43:23,491
Without what you signed up for
or even to the extent
1124
00:43:23,509 --> 00:43:25,009
That you found out
things about yourself
1125
00:43:25,161 --> 00:43:26,661
That you weren't
so thrilled about?
1126
00:43:26,679 --> 00:43:28,012
- Yeah. I think for me,
1127
00:43:28,164 --> 00:43:30,089
Like, growing up, my parents,
1128
00:43:30,183 --> 00:43:32,275
Like, showed no emotions.
1129
00:43:32,502 --> 00:43:34,018
Pretty much, like,
not intentionally, like,
1130
00:43:34,170 --> 00:43:36,020
Be a robot, but it's, like,
you know, like,
1131
00:43:36,172 --> 00:43:39,098
"we say this, you do it."
1132
00:43:39,192 --> 00:43:42,193
Or, like, "why are you sad for?
You have food on your table."
1133
00:43:42,287 --> 00:43:46,789
Like, so I never was able
to externalize my emotions
1134
00:43:46,941 --> 00:43:48,532
Or put it on the outside
where--
1135
00:43:48,685 --> 00:43:50,534
This whole experience
has taught me that.
1136
00:43:50,687 --> 00:43:52,036
Like, I ran away from that.
1137
00:43:52,188 --> 00:43:53,946
I ran away from my emotions
'cause I was scared,
1138
00:43:53,965 --> 00:43:55,523
'cause I was angry.
I didn't face it.
1139
00:43:55,541 --> 00:43:56,707
I didn't face anything.
1140
00:43:56,860 --> 00:43:58,860
I just ran
and just kept running.
1141
00:43:58,878 --> 00:44:01,286
♪ ♪
1142
00:44:01,306 --> 00:44:03,473
- Do you think you're
gonna get to a place
1143
00:44:03,624 --> 00:44:07,535
Where you accept,
like yourself?
1144
00:44:07,553 --> 00:44:12,482
- I--I don't ev--I don't know,
but I really want to.
1145
00:44:12,633 --> 00:44:14,058
- You deserve to be happy.
1146
00:44:14,210 --> 00:44:15,209
- Yeah.
1147
00:44:15,228 --> 00:44:17,044
- What about you?
1148
00:44:17,063 --> 00:44:20,305
When have you felt some
pleasure during this series
1149
00:44:20,325 --> 00:44:22,066
Where you've been happy?
1150
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:23,993
- I mean, we did have
really good times together.
1151
00:44:24,145 --> 00:44:25,736
And we did really have,
like, a really
1152
00:44:25,889 --> 00:44:27,905
Solid friendship at one point.
1153
00:44:28,057 --> 00:44:29,481
- Is that re-constructible?
1154
00:44:29,501 --> 00:44:32,410
[dramatic music]
1155
00:44:32,504 --> 00:44:34,228
- Not on my end.
1156
00:44:34,247 --> 00:44:36,839
♪ ♪
1157
00:44:36,991 --> 00:44:39,008
It's not, you know,
any of that trust.
1158
00:44:41,738 --> 00:44:44,088
- Well, I am so sorry
we've come to this.
1159
00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:46,516
Um...
1160
00:44:46,743 --> 00:44:51,187
To me, this sounds
like your decision day.
1161
00:44:51,338 --> 00:44:55,191
Morgan, do you feel
at this point
1162
00:44:55,342 --> 00:44:57,752
That the marriage is over?
1163
00:44:57,770 --> 00:44:59,754
♪ ♪
1164
00:44:59,772 --> 00:45:03,090
- Yeah.
Yeah, the marriage is over.
1165
00:45:03,109 --> 00:45:05,017
And I do want the divorce.
1166
00:45:05,036 --> 00:45:06,444
It wasn't meant to be.
1167
00:45:06,596 --> 00:45:08,112
And it wasn't meant
to work out.
1168
00:45:08,264 --> 00:45:10,431
And it's unfortunate
that we had to go through
1169
00:45:10,450 --> 00:45:12,283
What we went through
in order to find that out.
1170
00:45:12,377 --> 00:45:17,271
But still, you know,
it has come down to a divorce.
1171
00:45:17,290 --> 00:45:18,715
- So, binh.
- Yeah.
1172
00:45:18,866 --> 00:45:20,624
- Do you want a divorce?
1173
00:45:20,777 --> 00:45:24,779
♪ ♪
1174
00:45:24,872 --> 00:45:27,448
- Yeah,
I want a divorce as well,
1175
00:45:27,467 --> 00:45:29,058
For different circumstances.
1176
00:45:29,285 --> 00:45:30,727
Obviously,
I still need to work on myself
1177
00:45:30,878 --> 00:45:33,062
And figure out
who I genuinely am.
1178
00:45:33,214 --> 00:45:35,214
And so I'm not ready
to be married.
1179
00:45:35,233 --> 00:45:37,124
And I really thought
that I was ready.
1180
00:45:37,143 --> 00:45:39,051
And it feels like everything
was on the surface
1181
00:45:39,070 --> 00:45:40,570
That I was ready.
1182
00:45:40,797 --> 00:45:42,071
And it was only
'cause of this experience
1183
00:45:42,223 --> 00:45:43,481
That I realized that.
1184
00:45:43,633 --> 00:45:45,074
♪ ♪
1185
00:45:45,226 --> 00:45:46,909
It's frustrating,
but the only way
1186
00:45:47,061 --> 00:45:49,153
We can still go from here
is up.
1187
00:45:49,247 --> 00:45:51,897
To be the first person
in my family to be divorced,
1188
00:45:51,916 --> 00:45:53,916
It's tough, you know.
1189
00:45:54,068 --> 00:45:56,085
I already felt like
I'm the only one in my family
1190
00:45:56,237 --> 00:45:57,569
That's not a doctor,
so it's, like,
1191
00:45:57,589 --> 00:46:01,999
Another thing
that I'm not doing well in.
1192
00:46:02,151 --> 00:46:04,986
And I genuinely thought
that it would work out.
1193
00:46:05,004 --> 00:46:07,430
Legends aren't measured
in their losses.
1194
00:46:07,657 --> 00:46:09,173
They're measured
in how they respond to it.
1195
00:46:09,325 --> 00:46:11,583
So I'm gonna try to respond
the best way I can.
1196
00:46:11,603 --> 00:46:15,271
- ♪ you hate,
say you hate me ♪
1197
00:46:19,444 --> 00:46:24,688
♪ you'll never be alone ♪
1198
00:46:24,841 --> 00:46:27,675
♪ let's bring it back home,
home ♪
1199
00:46:27,768 --> 00:46:32,789
- Well, I was very
pleasantly surprised
1200
00:46:33,016 --> 00:46:37,442
By how easily
you problem-solved my worry
1201
00:46:37,462 --> 00:46:40,688
About the house flipping game
1202
00:46:40,706 --> 00:46:42,690
Of, like, me wanting
to pursue that.
1203
00:46:42,708 --> 00:46:44,283
- Mm-hmm.
1204
00:46:44,302 --> 00:46:48,045
I'm not, like, a super
capitalistic person.
1205
00:46:48,139 --> 00:46:50,381
But at the same time, you know,
if there's a great way
1206
00:46:50,533 --> 00:46:53,384
To make money and it's gonna go
with my values and stuff,
1207
00:46:53,536 --> 00:46:54,718
I'm gonna be for it.
1208
00:46:54,871 --> 00:46:56,295
- Yeah, no, absolutely.
1209
00:46:56,389 --> 00:46:57,462
I was just--
- [slurps loudly]
1210
00:46:57,557 --> 00:46:59,464
[quirky music]
1211
00:46:59,559 --> 00:47:01,392
- I was just seeking assistance
1212
00:47:01,486 --> 00:47:03,894
In how to navigate that.
1213
00:47:04,047 --> 00:47:06,063
- Yeah.
- And I think that I got there.
1214
00:47:06,215 --> 00:47:08,974
- You know, that's part of me
and it's part of the equation
1215
00:47:08,993 --> 00:47:10,217
That comes with being my wife.
1216
00:47:10,236 --> 00:47:12,236
You know what I mean?
- Yeah. Yeah.
1217
00:47:12,330 --> 00:47:14,646
Honestly, at first,
I was really worried about it.
1218
00:47:14,666 --> 00:47:16,499
I was like, "oh, my dear god."
1219
00:47:16,726 --> 00:47:18,000
♪ ♪
1220
00:47:18,152 --> 00:47:20,086
- [slurps]
1221
00:47:22,899 --> 00:47:26,400
- But living with you,
it doesn't feel as extreme
1222
00:47:26,419 --> 00:47:27,568
As I thought it was gonna feel.
1223
00:47:27,587 --> 00:47:29,161
- It'll get a little bit
more extreme,
1224
00:47:29,180 --> 00:47:30,237
But it won't be super extreme.
1225
00:47:30,256 --> 00:47:32,089
[tense music]
1226
00:47:32,241 --> 00:47:33,850
- More than current?
1227
00:47:34,077 --> 00:47:35,259
- Yeah.
1228
00:47:35,411 --> 00:47:36,853
- What do you mean?
1229
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:38,020
- Um...
1230
00:47:38,247 --> 00:47:40,690
♪ ♪
1231
00:47:40,841 --> 00:47:44,527
I think that I've been
a little bit more blasé
1232
00:47:44,754 --> 00:47:46,678
About some stuff
just because I know that this
1233
00:47:46,772 --> 00:47:48,255
Is a kinda temporary house.
1234
00:47:48,274 --> 00:47:49,273
♪ ♪
1235
00:47:49,367 --> 00:47:51,868
[slurps]
1236
00:47:52,095 --> 00:47:53,928
You know, like, I don't
really have paper towels.
1237
00:47:53,946 --> 00:47:56,931
I just use, like, cloth towels.
1238
00:47:56,949 --> 00:47:58,432
And I wash 'em.
1239
00:47:58,451 --> 00:48:01,102
- I am fine
with the no paper towels,
1240
00:48:01,195 --> 00:48:04,363
But it will impact me
if I am the one
1241
00:48:04,382 --> 00:48:05,715
Constantly washing the cloth.
1242
00:48:05,866 --> 00:48:08,718
- [slurps]
1243
00:48:08,945 --> 00:48:10,720
I think it's just all
about having a system.
1244
00:48:10,871 --> 00:48:11,946
- I agree.
1245
00:48:11,964 --> 00:48:13,556
♪ ♪
1246
00:48:13,707 --> 00:48:14,557
- [slurps]
1247
00:48:14,784 --> 00:48:17,393
♪ ♪
1248
00:48:17,620 --> 00:48:19,470
[slurps]
1249
00:48:19,564 --> 00:48:21,472
- Do you always eat like this
and I've never noticed?
1250
00:48:21,624 --> 00:48:23,548
- No, sorry.
1251
00:48:23,568 --> 00:48:25,384
- Oh, my god.
1252
00:48:25,403 --> 00:48:28,738
I'm really confused today
about how mitch is eating.
1253
00:48:28,889 --> 00:48:29,739
- [slurps]
1254
00:48:31,725 --> 00:48:33,392
- I think he's just
really hungry.
1255
00:48:33,411 --> 00:48:35,894
I'm gonna go with
he was just really hungry.
1256
00:48:35,988 --> 00:48:38,397
[both laughing]
1257
00:48:38,491 --> 00:48:40,808
I think I covered all my bases.
1258
00:48:40,826 --> 00:48:43,160
Do you feel like
we covered your bases?
1259
00:48:43,254 --> 00:48:44,903
- I mean, there's still things
that are gonna come up.
1260
00:48:44,923 --> 00:48:46,313
- Yeah.
- I'm just leaving
1261
00:48:46,332 --> 00:48:49,150
A little space
for things that maybe
1262
00:48:49,168 --> 00:48:50,409
Haven't come up yet,
and we don't even
1263
00:48:50,428 --> 00:48:51,410
Know they haven't come up yet.
1264
00:48:51,429 --> 00:48:52,836
But they will come up.
1265
00:48:52,931 --> 00:48:55,656
There's always gonna
be more to deal with.
1266
00:48:55,749 --> 00:48:56,748
- Yeah.
- And that's part of life,
1267
00:48:56,842 --> 00:49:00,269
So--you know?
- Mm-hmm.
1268
00:49:00,496 --> 00:49:02,421
- I think one thing
that I wanted to bring up
1269
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,273
But I decided not to,
1270
00:49:04,425 --> 00:49:06,500
And it's such
a superficial thing,
1271
00:49:06,519 --> 00:49:09,261
But I really like
the way kristen looks,
1272
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:10,780
Like, more naturally.
1273
00:49:10,931 --> 00:49:14,692
I mean, that's kind of,
like, I guess, cliché
1274
00:49:14,844 --> 00:49:17,178
As to who I am 'cause
I'm more of a natural guy.
1275
00:49:17,196 --> 00:49:18,937
But, like,
I haven't figured out
1276
00:49:18,957 --> 00:49:20,181
The right way to do it yet
because I think
1277
00:49:20,199 --> 00:49:22,291
It's a sensitive subject.
1278
00:49:22,518 --> 00:49:24,034
♪ ♪
1279
00:49:24,128 --> 00:49:26,796
- I feel really good.
1280
00:49:27,023 --> 00:49:28,130
- Agreed.
1281
00:49:28,357 --> 00:49:34,303
♪ ♪
1282
00:49:34,530 --> 00:49:35,529
- ♪ hot track,
coming for the crown ♪
1283
00:49:35,548 --> 00:49:36,697
♪ I want it, fix your face ♪
1284
00:49:36,716 --> 00:49:38,382
♪ with that frown, ironic ♪
1285
00:49:38,476 --> 00:49:40,125
♪ so iconic ♪
1286
00:49:40,219 --> 00:49:41,869
♪ yeah, you know I want it ♪
1287
00:49:41,887 --> 00:49:43,462
♪ high dollar, high heels ♪
1288
00:49:43,481 --> 00:49:44,555
♪ watch me slay ♪
1289
00:49:44,707 --> 00:49:46,890
- What's goin' on, guys?
- Nothing.
1290
00:49:47,043 --> 00:49:48,726
What's goin' on with you?
1291
00:49:48,878 --> 00:49:49,819
- Livin' that married life.
1292
00:49:49,970 --> 00:49:51,136
[laughter]
1293
00:49:51,155 --> 00:49:52,822
Decision day is approaching,
1294
00:49:53,049 --> 00:49:55,716
And now that I'm getting
to know stacia a lot more,
1295
00:49:55,735 --> 00:49:57,476
I definitely wanna know,
you know,
1296
00:49:57,495 --> 00:49:58,995
Aja's point of view.
1297
00:49:59,222 --> 00:50:00,329
I wanna know tameika's
point of view.
1298
00:50:00,481 --> 00:50:03,891
That way, I can understand
stacia dynamically.
1299
00:50:03,909 --> 00:50:05,668
You know, the more
point of views I have,
1300
00:50:05,895 --> 00:50:07,503
The more that I'm gonna
understand my wife.
1301
00:50:07,730 --> 00:50:10,231
And then I'll know
that I put in the work
1302
00:50:10,249 --> 00:50:11,841
And I put in the effort.
1303
00:50:11,992 --> 00:50:13,676
We have a lot
of upside potential.
1304
00:50:13,903 --> 00:50:16,679
So, you know,
if we do get that divorce,
1305
00:50:16,830 --> 00:50:18,014
I'll definitely feel
like a failure.
1306
00:50:18,241 --> 00:50:19,849
♪ ♪
1307
00:50:20,076 --> 00:50:22,184
- How's it going for you?
- It's going pretty good.
1308
00:50:22,411 --> 00:50:23,835
You know, we have our
challenges and everything,
1309
00:50:23,929 --> 00:50:25,929
But, you know, we're brand new.
1310
00:50:26,082 --> 00:50:27,523
- Like what?
1311
00:50:27,674 --> 00:50:29,600
- Yeah, what type
of challenges?
1312
00:50:29,752 --> 00:50:33,845
- Basically, when she told me
about, like--she mentioned
1313
00:50:33,939 --> 00:50:35,197
She cheated and everything.
1314
00:50:35,349 --> 00:50:38,092
And so that triggered
one of my insecurities.
1315
00:50:38,110 --> 00:50:41,262
And I was just
more so disappointed,
1316
00:50:41,355 --> 00:50:42,705
But I also, like,
judged her for it.
1317
00:50:42,856 --> 00:50:44,206
You know what I'm sayin'?
- Mm.
1318
00:50:44,433 --> 00:50:47,710
- Like, we've only known
each other for five weeks,
1319
00:50:47,937 --> 00:50:50,437
You know, so I don't have
enough context clues
1320
00:50:50,456 --> 00:50:54,775
To, you know,
know stacia dynamically.
1321
00:50:54,794 --> 00:50:57,720
You know, I only know stacia
at age 37
1322
00:50:57,947 --> 00:50:59,797
And, you know, a good career,
has real estate.
1323
00:50:59,949 --> 00:51:01,706
So that's my only baseline.
1324
00:51:01,801 --> 00:51:03,284
So when I get a few stories
1325
00:51:03,302 --> 00:51:05,377
That aren't really
the most positive,
1326
00:51:05,396 --> 00:51:07,045
My algorithm kicks in.
1327
00:51:07,139 --> 00:51:09,306
And it's more biased now.
1328
00:51:09,458 --> 00:51:13,143
- Is it hard to accept her
at face value
1329
00:51:13,237 --> 00:51:15,796
Because you've known each other
for such a short time?
1330
00:51:15,815 --> 00:51:17,907
- No, I mean,
it's not hard at all.
1331
00:51:18,058 --> 00:51:20,801
You know, I accept her
for everything, you know.
1332
00:51:20,820 --> 00:51:22,653
She's very transparent.
1333
00:51:22,747 --> 00:51:26,398
You know, she's very smart,
you know, very driven.
1334
00:51:26,492 --> 00:51:28,584
But I do see a lot of hurt.
1335
00:51:28,735 --> 00:51:32,162
And sometimes, it comes
into our relationship
1336
00:51:32,315 --> 00:51:33,572
When it comes
to, like, trust and stuff.
1337
00:51:33,591 --> 00:51:37,167
- Do you think she trusts you?
1338
00:51:37,261 --> 00:51:39,244
- She's getting a lot better.
She's getting a lot better.
1339
00:51:39,263 --> 00:51:41,913
It's just more so...
- That's good.
1340
00:51:41,933 --> 00:51:44,658
- Getting to know each other
and getting to know how--like,
1341
00:51:44,751 --> 00:51:46,510
We're learning
how to communicate.
1342
00:51:46,604 --> 00:51:50,514
But I think for me,
I'm a little bit more,
1343
00:51:50,608 --> 00:51:53,000
Like, enjoy the process.
1344
00:51:53,018 --> 00:51:55,611
You know, I want this
to be organic.
1345
00:51:55,838 --> 00:51:58,114
And she's like,
"I'm all in now."
1346
00:51:58,341 --> 00:51:59,264
- Running straight for it.
Yeah.
1347
00:51:59,358 --> 00:52:00,507
Yeah, she's going to hit first.
1348
00:52:00,601 --> 00:52:01,617
- "get to know me now."
you know?
1349
00:52:01,768 --> 00:52:02,843
- Uh-huh, uh-huh.
- She's going straight
1350
00:52:02,936 --> 00:52:04,011
To the finish line.
- Yeah, yeah.
1351
00:52:04,104 --> 00:52:05,287
- "nate, let's go."
- yeah, yeah.
1352
00:52:05,439 --> 00:52:07,514
[laughter]
1353
00:52:07,533 --> 00:52:10,701
- You know, always think of her
not like she's taking over,
1354
00:52:10,853 --> 00:52:12,628
She's trying to change you
into somebody different.
1355
00:52:12,855 --> 00:52:15,539
Think of it more as,
"I really get to understand
1356
00:52:15,691 --> 00:52:17,858
"who this person is,
1357
00:52:17,877 --> 00:52:19,710
What created this person,
what drives her."
1358
00:52:19,804 --> 00:52:21,119
- Okay, okay.
1359
00:52:21,213 --> 00:52:22,471
- Give yourself the opportunity
1360
00:52:22,623 --> 00:52:24,548
To really just be curious.
1361
00:52:24,642 --> 00:52:26,367
- Sure, sure.
1362
00:52:26,460 --> 00:52:29,036
- And think of it
like her wanting
1363
00:52:29,054 --> 00:52:30,704
You to get to that level,
1364
00:52:30,723 --> 00:52:33,223
That is speaking
to her love language.
1365
00:52:33,376 --> 00:52:34,817
So that way,
she's gonna feel like, "wow,
1366
00:52:34,968 --> 00:52:36,393
"he really loves me
because he's really trying
1367
00:52:36,545 --> 00:52:38,303
To get on my level."
1368
00:52:38,322 --> 00:52:40,489
- And I definitely am.
1369
00:52:40,641 --> 00:52:42,491
But, like, this is like
a boot camp of, like,
1370
00:52:42,643 --> 00:52:46,904
Me being, like, so transparent
and vulnerable.
1371
00:52:46,998 --> 00:52:50,833
And it's just, like, hyper
speed and it's very intense.
1372
00:52:51,060 --> 00:52:53,410
And my learning curve
is just, like--you know,
1373
00:52:53,504 --> 00:52:55,487
It's a challenge for me.
1374
00:52:55,506 --> 00:52:57,822
I think her patience
is telling me that, you know,
1375
00:52:57,842 --> 00:52:59,824
She definitely cares about me.
1376
00:52:59,844 --> 00:53:01,568
- Well, with that being said,
1377
00:53:01,587 --> 00:53:04,071
Has anyone said the l word yet?
1378
00:53:04,089 --> 00:53:06,590
- So stacia has said it
to me, like,
1379
00:53:06,684 --> 00:53:08,184
"hey, I love you."
1380
00:53:08,335 --> 00:53:11,578
I haven't said
"I love you" yet.
1381
00:53:11,672 --> 00:53:15,691
I expressed to her
that basically,
1382
00:53:15,918 --> 00:53:18,694
My love for stacia
is definitely growing,
1383
00:53:18,845 --> 00:53:21,271
And we're getting
really, really close.
1384
00:53:21,365 --> 00:53:24,425
- If nate doesn't say
"I love you" back to stacia,
1385
00:53:24,443 --> 00:53:26,760
I know that
it's gonna hurt her.
1386
00:53:26,779 --> 00:53:29,688
It's definitely going
to make her take a step back.
1387
00:53:29,707 --> 00:53:31,189
And that's what I'm afraid of.
1388
00:53:31,209 --> 00:53:33,116
She'll definitely close down.
1389
00:53:33,269 --> 00:53:36,712
And he might not get
the best of stacia.
1390
00:53:36,939 --> 00:53:39,882
- Like, is there some part
of you that is worried
1391
00:53:40,033 --> 00:53:42,960
That you won't be able
to live up to what you think
1392
00:53:43,054 --> 00:53:44,461
Would make her happy?
1393
00:53:44,613 --> 00:53:45,946
- Yeah, absolutely.
1394
00:53:45,965 --> 00:53:48,724
[dramatic music]
1395
00:53:52,879 --> 00:53:56,790
♪ I wanna go deeper with you ♪
1396
00:53:56,809 --> 00:53:58,642
♪ oh ♪
1397
00:53:58,794 --> 00:54:01,237
- What's up?
- Well, well, well.
1398
00:54:01,388 --> 00:54:02,571
- How have you been?
1399
00:54:02,723 --> 00:54:04,389
- I've been great.
I've been good.
1400
00:54:04,408 --> 00:54:06,650
- Yeah, so, I mean,
how's it been?
1401
00:54:06,802 --> 00:54:07,985
It's getting close
to decision day.
1402
00:54:08,079 --> 00:54:09,653
What's going on?
1403
00:54:09,805 --> 00:54:11,247
- I think we're doing good.
1404
00:54:11,398 --> 00:54:12,656
You know,
we're doing great still.
1405
00:54:12,808 --> 00:54:15,659
We have gone through some
obstacles, some conflict.
1406
00:54:15,811 --> 00:54:18,662
But, you know, I was welcoming
it because I wanted to see
1407
00:54:18,814 --> 00:54:19,588
How we would get through it.
1408
00:54:19,740 --> 00:54:21,315
So we got through it.
1409
00:54:21,333 --> 00:54:23,150
We're still very loving
towards each other.
1410
00:54:23,168 --> 00:54:24,985
- From what we know--
and I talk to nate---
1411
00:54:25,004 --> 00:54:26,578
You know, he's happy as hell.
You know what I mean?
1412
00:54:26,597 --> 00:54:28,322
- Yeah.
But, you know, what's crazy
1413
00:54:28,340 --> 00:54:30,507
Is that we met
with pastor cal yesterday.
1414
00:54:30,601 --> 00:54:32,659
And he kept saying, "well,
I love this about stacia.
1415
00:54:32,678 --> 00:54:33,769
I love this about stacia."
1416
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:35,420
And then he was like,
1417
00:54:35,439 --> 00:54:37,514
"so why don't you just say
I love you?"
1418
00:54:37,608 --> 00:54:40,350
He was like, "well, I've
stopped myself many times."
1419
00:54:40,503 --> 00:54:42,185
And I feel like
if you're stopping yourself
1420
00:54:42,338 --> 00:54:44,338
From wanting to say it, why?
1421
00:54:44,356 --> 00:54:46,189
- For me personally--
and, like, I've known him
1422
00:54:46,342 --> 00:54:48,600
15, 16 years--the only person
1423
00:54:48,619 --> 00:54:50,268
I've heard him say
"I love you" to
1424
00:54:50,288 --> 00:54:52,270
Is his family,
his sister, pops.
1425
00:54:52,290 --> 00:54:53,530
Like, that's it.
1426
00:54:53,682 --> 00:54:55,958
So maybe it's still a wall up
1427
00:54:56,109 --> 00:54:57,200
That he's putting there.
1428
00:54:57,353 --> 00:54:58,777
- So then you guys
haven't seen him
1429
00:54:58,796 --> 00:55:00,370
In a serious relationship
or in love?
1430
00:55:00,523 --> 00:55:01,538
- Not serious.
- No.
1431
00:55:01,690 --> 00:55:02,965
- Me personally, no.
1432
00:55:03,116 --> 00:55:05,617
- It's been a few dates.
1433
00:55:05,636 --> 00:55:07,952
Girlfriends in high school,
like, that's puppy love.
1434
00:55:07,972 --> 00:55:10,364
That's small talk.
1435
00:55:10,382 --> 00:55:13,976
- Being a 35-year-old man,
never been in love.
1436
00:55:14,127 --> 00:55:16,053
He's never experienced
this feeling before.
1437
00:55:16,205 --> 00:55:17,888
So how will he know if he is?
1438
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,149
Yeah, it's a bit surprising.
1439
00:55:20,376 --> 00:55:23,319
- No one has ever got to him
like you have.
1440
00:55:23,546 --> 00:55:26,063
Like, literally,
for you to actually, like,
1441
00:55:26,215 --> 00:55:28,473
Test his mental, test his love,
test his trust,
1442
00:55:28,567 --> 00:55:30,475
He's like, "[bleep] like,
1443
00:55:30,494 --> 00:55:32,644
I really gotta step up
to the plate."
1444
00:55:32,738 --> 00:55:35,497
So I feel like that's the only
thing that's keeping him back.
1445
00:55:35,649 --> 00:55:38,075
Expressing himself to you,
1446
00:55:38,227 --> 00:55:40,243
That deeper feeling
and that deeper conversation
1447
00:55:40,396 --> 00:55:42,320
Is not gonna be natural.
- Right.
1448
00:55:42,340 --> 00:55:43,580
And why do you think that is?
1449
00:55:43,732 --> 00:55:46,567
- I think
because there's something
1450
00:55:46,585 --> 00:55:50,087
That's behind whatever
he's feeling in a person
1451
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:53,015
That he has to know this is it.
1452
00:55:53,166 --> 00:55:56,352
You gotta be his front, back,
side to side, everything.
1453
00:55:56,579 --> 00:55:59,003
So I think when he comes
to the realization
1454
00:55:59,023 --> 00:56:02,099
That you are that,
that's when he's gonna be
1455
00:56:02,251 --> 00:56:04,751
More open and receptive to you.
1456
00:56:04,770 --> 00:56:05,844
- He just needs more times
to, you know--
1457
00:56:05,863 --> 00:56:07,846
- Yeah, and I understand that.
1458
00:56:07,865 --> 00:56:09,940
And, you know,
I try and be patient,
1459
00:56:10,034 --> 00:56:12,926
But I don't wanna be
in a loveless marriage either.
1460
00:56:12,945 --> 00:56:18,189
♪ ♪
1461
00:56:18,209 --> 00:56:20,542
I definitely see him
opening up more.
1462
00:56:20,694 --> 00:56:24,380
But when I'm trying
to explain things,
1463
00:56:24,531 --> 00:56:27,699
It's like maybe he's receptive,
maybe he's defensive.
1464
00:56:27,793 --> 00:56:31,128
Or even when, like, the experts
are telling him, he's like,
1465
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,372
"no, we're not implementing
that or I don't like that."
1466
00:56:34,392 --> 00:56:36,967
- Because he wants to follow
his own path.
1467
00:56:37,061 --> 00:56:39,119
Nate is the type of person
that if you do give him
1468
00:56:39,138 --> 00:56:40,729
All the tools,
he's gonna find a different way
1469
00:56:40,881 --> 00:56:42,973
To build the house.
1470
00:56:43,125 --> 00:56:45,734
- Is he using the tools?
- No.
1471
00:56:45,886 --> 00:56:47,385
[laughter]
1472
00:56:47,479 --> 00:56:48,404
- That's just being real.
1473
00:56:48,555 --> 00:56:49,405
- He's been like that
1474
00:56:49,556 --> 00:56:50,464
Since we were kids.
1475
00:56:50,482 --> 00:56:52,149
- I get he tries.
1476
00:56:52,301 --> 00:56:53,409
I get he's stubborn.
1477
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:54,410
I get he's flawed.
1478
00:56:54,561 --> 00:56:55,969
I get all of that.
1479
00:56:55,988 --> 00:56:57,579
But I feel like if I was
to do the same thing,
1480
00:56:57,731 --> 00:56:59,898
Where would we be?
1481
00:56:59,917 --> 00:57:02,901
So if I'm the constant
regulator, how--
1482
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:04,144
- You're like,
"how do I balance that?"
1483
00:57:04,163 --> 00:57:05,979
- Yeah.
1484
00:57:05,998 --> 00:57:10,500
♪ ♪
1485
00:57:10,594 --> 00:57:13,487
[upbeat music]
1486
00:57:13,505 --> 00:57:15,005
♪ ♪
1487
00:57:15,157 --> 00:57:16,156
- Good to see you guys, man.
1488
00:57:16,175 --> 00:57:17,841
- Good to see you too.
1489
00:57:17,993 --> 00:57:20,769
- All right.
- Okay.
1490
00:57:20,921 --> 00:57:22,162
- What's up, people?
1491
00:57:22,181 --> 00:57:23,497
- Not much.
- You look great.
1492
00:57:23,515 --> 00:57:24,923
You look glowing.
- Thanks.
1493
00:57:24,942 --> 00:57:26,424
- And it's not
because you're pregnant?
1494
00:57:26,444 --> 00:57:28,426
- [laughs] no.
- You're not pregnant?
1495
00:57:28,446 --> 00:57:29,352
- Not pregnant.
- Okay, all right.
1496
00:57:29,505 --> 00:57:31,280
- Yeah.
1497
00:57:31,431 --> 00:57:34,675
- I know dr. Pia had given you
that exercise with the baby.
1498
00:57:34,693 --> 00:57:37,119
- I get scared.
After that baby experience.
1499
00:57:37,270 --> 00:57:39,696
I'm like, "okay, we gotta wait
as long as we possibly can."
1500
00:57:39,848 --> 00:57:41,623
- We definitely need
to prepare better. Yeah.
1501
00:57:41,775 --> 00:57:44,293
- The baby kept us up.
1502
00:57:44,444 --> 00:57:47,688
We were waking up, like,
every two to three hours.
1503
00:57:47,706 --> 00:57:49,873
And lack of sleep
mixed with, like, the stress...
1504
00:57:49,967 --> 00:57:51,282
- Tension, yeah.
1505
00:57:51,302 --> 00:57:53,026
- The tension.
1506
00:57:53,119 --> 00:57:54,803
He took duty
two nights in a row
1507
00:57:55,030 --> 00:57:56,196
Because I literally
couldn't handle it.
1508
00:57:56,215 --> 00:57:58,122
♪ ♪
1509
00:57:58,142 --> 00:57:59,290
- Let's talk
a little bit about that,
1510
00:57:59,310 --> 00:58:00,717
'cause I know
that there have been
1511
00:58:00,869 --> 00:58:03,553
Challenges handling stress.
1512
00:58:03,647 --> 00:58:05,481
And you, miguel, talked
about how that's something
1513
00:58:05,632 --> 00:58:07,374
You've had to adjust to.
1514
00:58:07,392 --> 00:58:09,151
- In all honestly,
I'm still adjusting to it.
1515
00:58:11,063 --> 00:58:16,992
And the whole, like,
being overtly negative, um,
1516
00:58:17,143 --> 00:58:18,142
It does affect me.
1517
00:58:18,162 --> 00:58:19,569
I'm not gonna lie.
1518
00:58:19,722 --> 00:58:21,238
This has been a pattern, right?
1519
00:58:21,390 --> 00:58:22,981
It's been a recurring issue.
1520
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,075
And so I'm getting to that
point that it's like, okay,
1521
00:58:25,227 --> 00:58:27,894
We really do need to put in
the work to figure this one out
1522
00:58:27,913 --> 00:58:31,840
Because it does affect me.
1523
00:58:32,067 --> 00:58:34,084
- I didn't know
that it was boiling up.
1524
00:58:34,236 --> 00:58:35,660
- Well, it's not that it was
boi--well, here's the thing.
1525
00:58:35,679 --> 00:58:38,496
Like, I wasn't boiling up
and I wasn't holding a grudge.
1526
00:58:38,516 --> 00:58:40,907
I'm just really seeing
a pattern here
1527
00:58:40,926 --> 00:58:42,500
That I know is unsustainable
for me in the long run.
1528
00:58:42,594 --> 00:58:43,835
- Yeah.
- And I think
1529
00:58:43,854 --> 00:58:45,746
We need to do something
to address it.
1530
00:58:45,764 --> 00:58:47,597
♪ ♪
1531
00:58:47,750 --> 00:58:50,192
- Has he seen the worst in you?
1532
00:58:52,755 --> 00:58:56,439
- He's definitely, like, seen
intense characteristics of me.
1533
00:58:56,592 --> 00:58:57,849
- Okay.
- Yeah.
1534
00:58:57,868 --> 00:59:00,610
Just that, like,
feistiness and the anger
1535
00:59:00,763 --> 00:59:02,112
That I have.
- He's seen that?
1536
00:59:02,264 --> 00:59:03,539
- He's seen it, yeah.
- Okay, let's talk levels.
1537
00:59:03,690 --> 00:59:05,098
On a level of 1 to 10?
1538
00:59:05,117 --> 00:59:06,767
- Good 4.5.
1539
00:59:06,785 --> 00:59:08,359
- He's seen a good 4.5?
1540
00:59:08,379 --> 00:59:09,286
- Does that scare you?
1541
00:59:09,380 --> 00:59:10,361
- A little bit.
1542
00:59:10,381 --> 00:59:11,938
- [laughs]
- okay.
1543
00:59:11,957 --> 00:59:15,108
And how often have you
seen yourself at a 10?
1544
00:59:15,127 --> 00:59:16,943
- Only, like, twice, like...
1545
00:59:16,962 --> 00:59:18,779
- In life?
- In life.
1546
00:59:18,797 --> 00:59:20,038
- Twice?
- Yeah, yeah.
1547
00:59:20,057 --> 00:59:22,040
- In nearly 30 years?
- Yeah.
1548
00:59:22,059 --> 00:59:23,058
- Do you understand
where I'm going here?
1549
00:59:23,209 --> 00:59:24,226
- Yeah, yeah.
- I do. I do. I do.
1550
00:59:24,377 --> 00:59:25,285
Right.
- That you've seen her norm.
1551
00:59:25,304 --> 00:59:28,305
I don't want you
to forecast doom
1552
00:59:28,457 --> 00:59:29,956
In your relationship.
- Mm!
1553
00:59:29,975 --> 00:59:32,642
- Because you can easily say,
"oh, you haven't seen
1554
00:59:32,736 --> 00:59:34,811
The worst of me based on
what happened 18 years ago."
1555
00:59:34,963 --> 00:59:36,220
- I do do that. He's like...
1556
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:37,889
- What the heck?
1557
00:59:37,908 --> 00:59:39,816
- I'm always like,
"you just wait.
1558
00:59:39,968 --> 00:59:42,393
You're gonna see me
real crazy."
1559
00:59:42,413 --> 00:59:43,653
[laughing] just kidding.
- No, no.
1560
00:59:43,806 --> 00:59:45,247
And it scares him.
- Yeah.
1561
00:59:45,398 --> 00:59:47,249
I know. I'm sorry.
1562
00:59:47,476 --> 00:59:49,476
Is that the negativity?
Is that negative?
1563
00:59:49,494 --> 00:59:50,919
- Well, I think a little bit.
- Oh, see, I'm like...
1564
00:59:51,146 --> 00:59:52,662
- Yeah, you're primed right--
your go-to
1565
00:59:52,815 --> 00:59:56,166
Is to kinda, like, be negative,
and it's--yeah.
1566
00:59:56,318 --> 00:59:59,761
- And that's so deeply
part of me
1567
00:59:59,913 --> 01:00:04,007
That, like, I--I don't even--
it doesn't even register.
1568
01:00:04,159 --> 01:00:05,992
- The question is,
at this point,
1569
01:00:06,011 --> 01:00:07,661
Can you live with her norm?
1570
01:00:07,754 --> 01:00:10,439
- ♪ got another thing coming ♪
1571
01:00:10,666 --> 01:00:13,275
♪ do you got
another thing coming? ♪
1572
01:00:17,172 --> 01:00:18,930
- ♪ we're forever young ♪
1573
01:00:19,024 --> 01:00:21,024
♪ we're forever young ♪
1574
01:00:21,176 --> 01:00:26,513
♪ ♪
1575
01:00:26,531 --> 01:00:29,366
♪ yeah, you feel it,
we're forever young ♪
1576
01:00:29,460 --> 01:00:32,185
[line ringing]
1577
01:00:32,204 --> 01:00:34,445
♪ ♪
1578
01:00:34,539 --> 01:00:36,948
- Hey there.
- Hello, rachel.
1579
01:00:37,042 --> 01:00:38,358
- How's it going?
1580
01:00:38,377 --> 01:00:39,876
- Hello, sister of my wife.
1581
01:00:40,028 --> 01:00:41,862
- Hello.
1582
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:44,473
- Well, thanks for taking
the time to chat with me.
1583
01:00:44,700 --> 01:00:47,217
Krysten and I,
we're doing pretty good.
1584
01:00:47,369 --> 01:00:50,036
But we are starting
to get down to the wire
1585
01:00:50,055 --> 01:00:52,038
Of decision day and stuff.
1586
01:00:52,057 --> 01:00:56,300
And I'm wondering if maybe
you have any insights,
1587
01:00:56,395 --> 01:00:59,562
Like, in terms of how she's--
where she might be at overall.
1588
01:00:59,657 --> 01:01:03,216
- Okay, well, first,
you know, it definitely
1589
01:01:03,235 --> 01:01:05,902
Sounds like your expectations
going into maybe the process
1590
01:01:05,996 --> 01:01:08,163
Weren't exactly met.
1591
01:01:08,390 --> 01:01:10,056
So I'm curious,
like, how you kind of
1592
01:01:10,075 --> 01:01:12,316
Have worked to overcome that,
if you have--
1593
01:01:12,336 --> 01:01:14,652
Assuming you have.
- Yeah, yeah.
1594
01:01:14,746 --> 01:01:17,580
Looking back, I feel like it
wasn't really about krysten
1595
01:01:17,733 --> 01:01:18,899
And it was more about me,
1596
01:01:18,992 --> 01:01:21,401
And no matter who walked
down the aisle,
1597
01:01:21,494 --> 01:01:23,345
A lot of the fears that I had
1598
01:01:23,496 --> 01:01:25,013
Just around marriage
and commitment
1599
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:26,515
Were gonna come out
no matter what.
1600
01:01:26,666 --> 01:01:27,999
And so there was
just kind of, like,
1601
01:01:28,018 --> 01:01:30,093
This initial
fight-or-flight reflex
1602
01:01:30,187 --> 01:01:31,745
That hit me really hard.
1603
01:01:31,763 --> 01:01:33,188
And part of me just wanted
to, like, be like,
1604
01:01:33,415 --> 01:01:34,856
"oh, my god,
I can't believe I did this."
1605
01:01:35,008 --> 01:01:39,510
So I think, if anything, I was
probably maybe unconsciously
1606
01:01:39,530 --> 01:01:42,255
Expecting a girl
that was a little bit more,
1607
01:01:42,274 --> 01:01:44,682
Like, surfy, kinda hippie.
1608
01:01:44,776 --> 01:01:47,852
And once I got over my [bleep],
kind of, I was receptive to,
1609
01:01:47,871 --> 01:01:49,446
Like, accepting her exactly
as the person she is.
1610
01:01:49,598 --> 01:01:51,281
- Yeah.
1611
01:01:51,375 --> 01:01:53,024
- And realized I have
a really great person here.
1612
01:01:53,118 --> 01:01:54,267
And she could be
even better than
1613
01:01:54,286 --> 01:01:55,860
All these things I expected.
1614
01:01:55,879 --> 01:01:57,771
And I need to really go all in.
You know what I mean?
1615
01:01:57,789 --> 01:02:00,290
So that's the solo side
for me, at least.
1616
01:02:00,384 --> 01:02:04,794
- I will say that krysten
is really open-minded.
1617
01:02:04,888 --> 01:02:08,223
And I know that she
is a lover of the earth,
1618
01:02:08,450 --> 01:02:13,061
But maybe not that, like,
super hippie vibe.
1619
01:02:13,288 --> 01:02:14,454
I'm not trying
to, like, preach at you
1620
01:02:14,473 --> 01:02:15,972
About krysten or anything.
1621
01:02:16,124 --> 01:02:17,733
But I feel like she really
deserves someone
1622
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,961
That's going to be
all in with her.
1623
01:02:20,979 --> 01:02:22,963
And if that's you,
I think that's amazing.
1624
01:02:22,981 --> 01:02:24,647
- Yeah, thank you so much.
1625
01:02:24,742 --> 01:02:26,132
Those are really nice things.
- No problem.
1626
01:02:26,151 --> 01:02:28,410
- So I do have one more
question for you that's--
1627
01:02:28,637 --> 01:02:30,637
It's definitely more,
like, a superficial thing,
1628
01:02:30,655 --> 01:02:32,230
But I just would like
your advice on it.
1629
01:02:32,324 --> 01:02:33,231
- Okay.
- Since I have
1630
01:02:33,325 --> 01:02:35,642
Kinda spoken out of turn before
1631
01:02:35,735 --> 01:02:37,252
And really screwed things up,
1632
01:02:37,479 --> 01:02:39,237
I kind of--
I want to avoid doing that.
1633
01:02:39,256 --> 01:02:41,831
But at the same time,
I would like to address this
1634
01:02:41,925 --> 01:02:45,576
In a way that's, like,
really not off-putting.
1635
01:02:45,596 --> 01:02:48,171
I just want your insight,
if you have any.
1636
01:02:48,323 --> 01:02:49,506
You know, like I said,
I'm a little bit more
1637
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:50,766
Of a natural guy.
1638
01:02:50,917 --> 01:02:52,601
I'm a little more earthy.
- Yeah.
1639
01:02:52,752 --> 01:02:55,178
- And that tends to be more
what I'm attracted to.
1640
01:02:55,330 --> 01:02:57,330
And in the case
of krysten, like,
1641
01:02:57,349 --> 01:02:59,682
I really actually think
she's beautiful
1642
01:02:59,777 --> 01:03:03,261
In her natural state.
1643
01:03:03,355 --> 01:03:07,173
So, like, you know, when we're
just hanging around at night,
1644
01:03:07,192 --> 01:03:09,117
After all the makeup's off,
when her hair is, like,
1645
01:03:09,269 --> 01:03:11,269
More wavy,
like it naturally is,
1646
01:03:11,288 --> 01:03:15,106
Like, that's actually when I am
most attracted to her,
1647
01:03:15,125 --> 01:03:18,442
Which I think is really
a good thing and a compliment.
1648
01:03:18,462 --> 01:03:22,539
But I'm wondering if she's
willing to maybe consider
1649
01:03:22,633 --> 01:03:25,467
When we're together, like,
not feeling the need
1650
01:03:25,618 --> 01:03:28,286
To put on as much makeup
1651
01:03:28,305 --> 01:03:30,806
And kind of do herself up
quite as much.
1652
01:03:33,035 --> 01:03:35,293
- I feel strongly
about this topic.
1653
01:03:35,312 --> 01:03:40,206
The makeup isn't
necessarily for you
1654
01:03:40,300 --> 01:03:42,542
Or for the male gaze
all the time.
1655
01:03:42,635 --> 01:03:43,985
- Yeah, I know.
I mean, I know it's not.
1656
01:03:44,212 --> 01:03:45,970
- No, wait. I'm not done.
- Okay.
1657
01:03:46,064 --> 01:03:48,472
- That being said, women,
and krysten in this case,
1658
01:03:48,492 --> 01:03:52,886
Want to present themselves
how they feel best.
1659
01:03:52,904 --> 01:03:56,665
And based on, like, how things
started out for you guys,
1660
01:03:56,816 --> 01:03:59,409
It could, like, inadvertently
come across as like,
1661
01:03:59,503 --> 01:04:02,003
"oh, yeah, I know we initially
spoke about maybe
1662
01:04:02,155 --> 01:04:03,897
"me not being attracted
to you,
1663
01:04:03,915 --> 01:04:05,398
"but how about you, like,
have a different haircut
1664
01:04:05,491 --> 01:04:07,917
And don't wear makeup now?"
1665
01:04:08,011 --> 01:04:11,404
Krysten spent a lot of time
feeling insecure
1666
01:04:11,423 --> 01:04:14,015
And feeling,
"why doesn't mitch like me?
1667
01:04:14,242 --> 01:04:16,576
"or why is he kind of
telling me
1668
01:04:16,669 --> 01:04:17,853
That he's not attracted
to me?"
1669
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:21,581
And trying to figure out
if you like her.
1670
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:24,601
Krysten deserves someone
that cares about her.
1671
01:04:24,695 --> 01:04:27,437
I think that's just,
like, priority number one.
1672
01:04:27,531 --> 01:04:32,350
And my advice to her
is for her to figure out
1673
01:04:32,444 --> 01:04:35,445
If you are the person for her.
1674
01:04:35,597 --> 01:04:38,373
♪ ♪
1675
01:04:42,771 --> 01:04:47,941
♪ ♪
1676
01:04:47,959 --> 01:04:49,626
- No!
- Oh!
1677
01:04:49,778 --> 01:04:52,721
♪ ♪
1678
01:04:52,948 --> 01:04:55,557
- I don't think morgan and I
are really on talking terms.
1679
01:04:55,784 --> 01:04:57,967
I think--I honestly
want the best for her.
1680
01:04:58,120 --> 01:04:59,877
I don't care
what she thinks about that.
1681
01:04:59,971 --> 01:05:01,471
But I wanna show up today
because this
1682
01:05:01,565 --> 01:05:03,957
Is probably the last time
we're all gonna be together.
1683
01:05:04,050 --> 01:05:05,308
You know, I've made
a lot of good friends
1684
01:05:05,402 --> 01:05:07,127
And a lot of good memories.
1685
01:05:07,220 --> 01:05:08,144
And I just wanna say
my goodbyes.
1686
01:05:08,238 --> 01:05:10,238
- ♪ eyes shut ♪
1687
01:05:10,465 --> 01:05:12,723
♪ and I'm keeping 'em closed
dreaming of ♪
1688
01:05:12,743 --> 01:05:14,300
[all cheering]
1689
01:05:14,319 --> 01:05:17,329
- [indistinct singing]
1690
01:05:22,644 --> 01:05:24,669
[indistinct chatter]
1691
01:05:26,481 --> 01:05:29,666
- How have you been?
1692
01:05:29,818 --> 01:05:31,834
- [laughing]
- okay, that's good.
1693
01:05:31,929 --> 01:05:33,169
I'm happy for you.
1694
01:05:33,321 --> 01:05:35,579
- Um...
- Same?
1695
01:05:35,674 --> 01:05:39,175
- Been taking back what I want.
1696
01:05:39,327 --> 01:05:41,828
I've been so focused
on what someone else wants,
1697
01:05:41,921 --> 01:05:43,513
Trying to be
what someone else wants.
1698
01:05:43,665 --> 01:05:45,165
- Yeah.
- And I'm taking it back.
1699
01:05:45,183 --> 01:05:46,608
- Love that for you.
- Yeah.
1700
01:05:46,835 --> 01:05:48,685
- [bleep] love that for you.
- Oh, I'm fully on.
1701
01:05:48,837 --> 01:05:49,778
- Good.
1702
01:05:52,115 --> 01:05:53,281
- Yes.
- Mm-hmm.
1703
01:05:53,433 --> 01:05:55,099
- But don't worry.
I'll have my moment.
1704
01:05:55,193 --> 01:05:57,860
On my way here,
rachel, my sister,
1705
01:05:58,013 --> 01:06:00,271
Was actually telling me
that mitch is asking her
1706
01:06:00,365 --> 01:06:04,459
For advice on how to ask me
1707
01:06:04,610 --> 01:06:06,944
To do my hair less
and wear less makeup
1708
01:06:07,038 --> 01:06:08,521
And dress down.
1709
01:06:08,614 --> 01:06:10,423
And he thought he was gonna get
a "hippie girl."
1710
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:13,134
- Mm-hmm.
1711
01:06:16,974 --> 01:06:19,382
- Mm, mm, I hear that.
1712
01:06:19,476 --> 01:06:20,550
- It's a slow grill, you know?
1713
01:06:20,702 --> 01:06:21,810
- Yeah.
- Slow burn.
1714
01:06:21,961 --> 01:06:23,386
- I just think
it's really inconsiderate
1715
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:26,706
To still, how far we've come,
1716
01:06:26,799 --> 01:06:29,800
Tell my sister
that he wants advice
1717
01:06:29,820 --> 01:06:33,304
On how he wants me to look.
1718
01:06:33,398 --> 01:06:36,232
I think it's rude.
It's very hurtful.
1719
01:06:36,384 --> 01:06:37,659
- Don't sleep
on the food, guys.
1720
01:06:37,886 --> 01:06:39,235
There's food.
- Binh, thank you for cooking.
1721
01:06:39,329 --> 01:06:40,887
- Anytime.
- It's so good.
1722
01:06:40,905 --> 01:06:42,238
- Y'all good?
Everyone's good?
1723
01:06:42,390 --> 01:06:43,498
- It was so good. Yeah.
- Thank you for grilling.
1724
01:06:43,725 --> 01:06:45,149
- A'ight. But yeah,
1725
01:06:45,243 --> 01:06:46,501
So what'd you think of that
most recent expert visit?
1726
01:06:46,728 --> 01:06:47,744
Like, did you guys--
1727
01:06:47,896 --> 01:06:49,820
- Did you guys
even have a visit?
1728
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:51,489
- Yeah, we had
our decision day,
1729
01:06:51,508 --> 01:06:53,066
And tonight's the last night.
1730
01:06:53,084 --> 01:06:54,175
- Oh.
- Oh.
1731
01:06:54,327 --> 01:06:56,177
- Oh, wow.
1732
01:06:56,329 --> 01:06:58,013
- With you guys
in the process, so...
1733
01:06:58,164 --> 01:07:00,573
It's very bittersweet.
- Okay.
1734
01:07:00,666 --> 01:07:01,683
- Yeah, 'cause I'm gonna miss
you guys.
1735
01:07:01,910 --> 01:07:04,335
♪ ♪
1736
01:07:04,429 --> 01:07:05,836
- How are you feeling, binh?
1737
01:07:05,930 --> 01:07:08,672
- Um, yeah, the same way,
bittersweet.
1738
01:07:08,767 --> 01:07:09,932
I'm gonna miss all you guys.
1739
01:07:10,085 --> 01:07:13,010
But I'm trying
to figure out my life now.
1740
01:07:13,104 --> 01:07:14,587
Today's my last day here.
1741
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:16,923
And maybe even this is it
for san diego for me.
1742
01:07:17,016 --> 01:07:18,274
Maybe it's on
to a new adventure.
1743
01:07:18,426 --> 01:07:20,184
Continue therapy.
1744
01:07:20,203 --> 01:07:23,429
Just continue to grow
and become a better person.
1745
01:07:23,523 --> 01:07:26,541
And hopefully, one day,
maybe find mrs. Right.
1746
01:07:26,768 --> 01:07:29,118
- Do you feel at peace
with your decision
1747
01:07:29,212 --> 01:07:31,437
And the way things have ended?
1748
01:07:31,456 --> 01:07:33,697
- Yeah, I did
what was best for me.
1749
01:07:33,792 --> 01:07:35,366
Binh is not the partner for me,
1750
01:07:35,460 --> 01:07:37,535
And I confidently know that.
1751
01:07:37,629 --> 01:07:39,462
And I'm okay with that.
1752
01:07:39,614 --> 01:07:42,282
I mean, dr. Pepper has asked
the question
1753
01:07:42,300 --> 01:07:43,966
If we could ever be friends.
1754
01:07:44,061 --> 01:07:47,711
On my end, no,
1755
01:07:47,806 --> 01:07:50,548
Because in order
to be my friend,
1756
01:07:50,642 --> 01:07:52,716
I have to trust you
to some extent.
1757
01:07:52,736 --> 01:07:55,962
And that trust
is no longer there with me.
1758
01:07:56,055 --> 01:07:58,222
- Binh, are you willing
to be morgan's friend
1759
01:07:58,316 --> 01:07:59,074
Or what's your perspective?
1760
01:07:59,301 --> 01:08:00,742
- Yeah, I would be.
1761
01:08:00,893 --> 01:08:02,485
I wanna do well, for sure.
1762
01:08:02,637 --> 01:08:04,579
I want her to let go
and forgive.
1763
01:08:04,806 --> 01:08:06,915
And for me, I want her
to accept the apology,
1764
01:08:07,066 --> 01:08:08,474
But that doesn't mean she
has to accept me
1765
01:08:08,493 --> 01:08:09,809
In her life, you know.
1766
01:08:09,902 --> 01:08:11,160
But we all heal
on our own time.
1767
01:08:11,254 --> 01:08:13,904
So I don't need to be
a part of her life.
1768
01:08:13,924 --> 01:08:17,150
But for her to completely move
on, she needs to forgive me,
1769
01:08:17,243 --> 01:08:19,410
Or else it's just gonna
be stored inside of her,
1770
01:08:19,429 --> 01:08:20,595
And that's not good
for her mental health.
1771
01:08:20,746 --> 01:08:23,506
So she needs to let it go.
1772
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:27,493
- I think our meeting with
pastor cal went really well.
1773
01:08:27,587 --> 01:08:30,271
We got a lot
of positive feedback.
1774
01:08:30,423 --> 01:08:34,000
He's happy with
where our marriage is.
1775
01:08:34,093 --> 01:08:39,188
And he's happy
with where nate is.
1776
01:08:39,341 --> 01:08:41,449
Personally, he thinks that he's
seen a lot of growth in him.
1777
01:08:41,601 --> 01:08:44,010
- That's right.
Growth, #growth.
1778
01:08:44,028 --> 01:08:45,269
[laughter]
let's get it.
1779
01:08:45,288 --> 01:08:47,104
I'm in there.
1780
01:08:47,198 --> 01:08:47,864
- Okay, okay.
- Okay. Sorry.
1781
01:08:47,958 --> 01:08:49,515
- Okay, okay.
1782
01:08:49,534 --> 01:08:51,517
- So what about you guys,
lindy and miguel?
1783
01:08:51,611 --> 01:08:52,869
- Yeah, yeah.
- Yes, oh, my gosh.
1784
01:08:52,963 --> 01:08:53,795
- Things are good.
1785
01:08:53,946 --> 01:08:55,188
I don't know.
- Yeah.
1786
01:08:55,281 --> 01:08:56,022
- There's nothing wrong
with that,
1787
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:57,206
Nothing at all.
1788
01:08:57,300 --> 01:08:58,875
Say it. Things are good.
1789
01:08:58,969 --> 01:09:00,284
Amazing.
- Yeah.
1790
01:09:00,378 --> 01:09:01,952
- How's mikimby?
- Mikimby.
1791
01:09:02,046 --> 01:09:04,213
- Mikimby is gone.
- Migindy.
1792
01:09:04,366 --> 01:09:08,201
- Migindy heather
elloway santiago.
1793
01:09:08,294 --> 01:09:09,310
- She's outta here.
- He's outta here.
1794
01:09:09,537 --> 01:09:10,812
- I mean, wait, he.
1795
01:09:11,039 --> 01:09:12,889
- We don't know
what it identifies as yet.
1796
01:09:13,041 --> 01:09:15,132
- Yeah, we don't know their
identity, but it was a boy.
1797
01:09:15,226 --> 01:09:16,317
- Aww, that's sweet.
- It had male--
1798
01:09:16,469 --> 01:09:17,560
- You'll figure it out
when it's time.
1799
01:09:17,654 --> 01:09:19,545
- Yeah.
- It had a wiener,
1800
01:09:19,639 --> 01:09:21,547
A tiny little baby wiener.
- Yeah.
1801
01:09:21,641 --> 01:09:23,974
Um, very fitting
for the santiagos.
1802
01:09:23,994 --> 01:09:27,220
- Stop.
[laughter]
1803
01:09:27,313 --> 01:09:28,404
- What's fitting
for the santiagos?
1804
01:09:28,556 --> 01:09:29,739
- Calling yourself out
right now.
1805
01:09:29,891 --> 01:09:31,557
- Move along. Move along.
1806
01:09:31,651 --> 01:09:34,169
[laughter]
1807
01:09:34,396 --> 01:09:36,654
- Alexis and justin?
1808
01:09:36,748 --> 01:09:38,989
- Um, we talked about intimacy.
1809
01:09:39,009 --> 01:09:43,160
The intimacy,
it was interesting, I guess.
1810
01:09:43,254 --> 01:09:46,589
We just--we're different
in that area.
1811
01:09:46,741 --> 01:09:48,741
You know, like,
she's used to--
1812
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:49,851
And correct me if I'm wrong.
1813
01:09:50,078 --> 01:09:52,002
She's used to,
you know, I guess,
1814
01:09:52,022 --> 01:09:53,913
Somebody being dominant.
1815
01:09:53,932 --> 01:09:56,599
And I don't mind being dominant
if I know the energy
1816
01:09:56,693 --> 01:09:58,008
Is being reciprocated.
1817
01:09:58,028 --> 01:10:00,344
- You wanna know
that it's welcome in a way?
1818
01:10:00,363 --> 01:10:02,605
- Well,
not necessarily welcome.
1819
01:10:02,757 --> 01:10:04,348
Well, yeah and no,
but more so that she's
1820
01:10:04,442 --> 01:10:06,108
Feeling the same thing.
1821
01:10:06,261 --> 01:10:07,777
- And it's like, yeah,
I'll do what I gotta do.
1822
01:10:07,929 --> 01:10:09,353
But I think overall,
in our relationship,
1823
01:10:09,372 --> 01:10:10,930
I need that right now.
1824
01:10:11,023 --> 01:10:13,099
Like, I need
that dominant energy.
1825
01:10:13,117 --> 01:10:14,784
- And I get that.
1826
01:10:14,878 --> 01:10:17,770
You know, for me, like,
it's just one of those things.
1827
01:10:17,789 --> 01:10:19,105
You know what I'm sayin'?
1828
01:10:19,198 --> 01:10:20,623
Like, I have to feel
comfortable too.
1829
01:10:20,717 --> 01:10:23,534
- Are you still in love?
1830
01:10:23,553 --> 01:10:25,278
- Of course, you know.
1831
01:10:25,371 --> 01:10:26,963
I just--I have mixed feelings,
though, you know,
1832
01:10:27,115 --> 01:10:28,389
And I gotta be honest
with that.
1833
01:10:28,616 --> 01:10:31,133
- Are you guys confident
going into decision day?
1834
01:10:31,286 --> 01:10:35,972
- Um, I don't know yet,
you know.
1835
01:10:36,124 --> 01:10:38,549
A lot has happened.
1836
01:10:38,568 --> 01:10:44,130
And I have to really just
kinda sort out everything.
1837
01:10:44,148 --> 01:10:47,742
I wanna say yes, but I don't
know what's gonna happen.
1838
01:10:47,893 --> 01:10:51,320
It's been rough, you know.
1839
01:10:51,414 --> 01:10:53,823
But it's also been great too.
1840
01:10:53,975 --> 01:10:57,568
- Like, my thing is,
if you ever have a question
1841
01:10:57,662 --> 01:10:59,829
Whether you have to choose me,
choose whatever else,
1842
01:10:59,981 --> 01:11:01,163
Because I should be
your obvious choice,
1843
01:11:01,258 --> 01:11:02,815
Especially as your wife.
1844
01:11:02,834 --> 01:11:05,651
And I know that's kind of
not fair with this process,
1845
01:11:05,670 --> 01:11:07,911
But that's just how I feel.
1846
01:11:07,931 --> 01:11:11,099
For me,
going into decision day,
1847
01:11:11,250 --> 01:11:14,010
I mean, I told you before.
1848
01:11:14,104 --> 01:11:16,604
All you asked for is time,
patience with me.
1849
01:11:16,756 --> 01:11:18,439
And that's
what I'm trying to give you,
1850
01:11:18,666 --> 01:11:19,999
Decision day or not.
1851
01:11:20,018 --> 01:11:21,667
Let's just leave it at that.
1852
01:11:21,686 --> 01:11:25,187
[dramatic music]
1853
01:11:25,282 --> 01:11:27,023
- So who'd you guys meet with?
1854
01:11:27,175 --> 01:11:30,026
- So this week, we met with
dr. Pepper for the second time.
1855
01:11:30,178 --> 01:11:34,122
I feel like she gets us
as individuals and as a couple.
1856
01:11:34,273 --> 01:11:36,607
Like, especially, like, some of
the sticking points we've had,
1857
01:11:36,626 --> 01:11:37,608
I feel like she gets it.
1858
01:11:37,702 --> 01:11:40,778
So we met with her again.
1859
01:11:40,872 --> 01:11:43,965
And it seems like
the theme was, like,
1860
01:11:44,192 --> 01:11:47,135
What else is holding
either of you back?
1861
01:11:47,362 --> 01:11:50,379
Or what else is unanswered
or not reconciled?
1862
01:11:50,473 --> 01:11:52,956
Because we're getting close
to decision day.
1863
01:11:52,976 --> 01:11:54,867
- I'm just really glad
that you can, like,
1864
01:11:54,886 --> 01:11:56,202
See past--'cause I know
in the beginning,
1865
01:11:56,220 --> 01:11:57,795
You were saying, like,
her wearing makeup
1866
01:11:57,889 --> 01:12:00,706
And dressing up and things like
that bothered you initially.
1867
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,151
So I'm really just, like, happy
to see that you guys have come
1868
01:12:03,378 --> 01:12:06,154
So far, and you didn't let,
like, appearances or things
1869
01:12:06,305 --> 01:12:07,213
That you thought
you would be used to
1870
01:12:07,231 --> 01:12:08,489
Or you thought you wanted
1871
01:12:08,641 --> 01:12:10,158
Get in the way
of your marriage.
1872
01:12:10,385 --> 01:12:13,553
- Do you feel like
you're over those things?
1873
01:12:13,646 --> 01:12:14,829
- Did I say those things
in the beginning?
1874
01:12:15,056 --> 01:12:17,481
♪ ♪
1875
01:12:17,575 --> 01:12:18,558
- Hmm.
- Yeah, you said that
1876
01:12:18,576 --> 01:12:19,667
In the beginning.
- Yeah.
1877
01:12:19,819 --> 01:12:21,169
- Okay.
- That you took issue
1878
01:12:21,396 --> 01:12:23,245
To her dressing up
and wearing makeup and stuff.
1879
01:12:23,398 --> 01:12:24,505
- I just wanna make sure
I'm clear.
1880
01:12:24,732 --> 01:12:25,581
You never--
1881
01:12:25,733 --> 01:12:26,899
- I never said that.
1882
01:12:26,992 --> 01:12:28,584
- You never said that?
- Yeah.
1883
01:12:28,736 --> 01:12:30,086
- I've personally never
heard you say that, but--
1884
01:12:30,238 --> 01:12:31,587
- You never--
- I did.
1885
01:12:31,739 --> 01:12:33,848
- You never wanted me
to be a little more--
1886
01:12:34,075 --> 01:12:35,350
- Earthy.
1887
01:12:35,501 --> 01:12:37,668
- No, I think I did. Yeah.
1888
01:12:37,687 --> 01:12:39,428
- Yeah, okay.
1889
01:12:39,581 --> 01:12:41,430
So that is
an accurate statement?
1890
01:12:41,583 --> 01:12:44,174
- It's valid. I didn't know
that, like, it'd gotten around.
1891
01:12:44,268 --> 01:12:45,434
I didn't wanna sound like
I was, like,
1892
01:12:45,587 --> 01:12:46,510
Some controlling husband,
'cause I'm not.
1893
01:12:46,529 --> 01:12:49,030
- Oh. No, not at all.
1894
01:12:49,181 --> 01:12:51,257
- How do you feel
about her now?
1895
01:12:51,350 --> 01:12:53,684
Like, where are you at now
with her?
1896
01:12:53,778 --> 01:12:56,779
- I think I don't know yet.
1897
01:12:56,873 --> 01:12:58,431
Yeah.
1898
01:12:58,524 --> 01:13:01,117
And I think what,
you know, we've talked about,
1899
01:13:01,211 --> 01:13:05,454
We did talk a bit about
decision day with dr. Pepper.
1900
01:13:05,548 --> 01:13:09,700
And one of the things I brought
that I wanted to discuss
1901
01:13:09,719 --> 01:13:13,112
In that conversation is what
decision day meant to me
1902
01:13:13,131 --> 01:13:15,890
And what it meant to you,
and that maybe we
1903
01:13:16,117 --> 01:13:17,541
Hopefully would see
eye to eye about it
1904
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:18,951
And be on the same page.
1905
01:13:19,044 --> 01:13:20,544
- I'm sorry to pry,
but I'm curious.
1906
01:13:20,563 --> 01:13:21,545
Have you guys started talking
about that?
1907
01:13:21,564 --> 01:13:24,899
- I think yes.
1908
01:13:25,050 --> 01:13:29,720
And I think
that we're both undecided,
1909
01:13:29,739 --> 01:13:31,722
To be honest with you.
1910
01:13:31,741 --> 01:13:36,059
And I think I wondered
1911
01:13:36,154 --> 01:13:38,638
If I could be mitch's wife.
1912
01:13:38,656 --> 01:13:40,806
Can I be who he wants me to be?
1913
01:13:40,825 --> 01:13:43,826
And then kind of more recently,
I've been wondering,
1914
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:46,145
"is mitch who I want?"
1915
01:13:46,164 --> 01:13:49,498
And then
a big part of me wonders
1916
01:13:49,651 --> 01:13:53,169
If I'm okay with someone
being unsure about me
1917
01:13:53,263 --> 01:13:55,596
After eight weeks.
1918
01:13:55,823 --> 01:13:59,492
And I think my need is--
might be something
1919
01:13:59,510 --> 01:14:02,085
A little bigger than what can
be done in the next two weeks.
1920
01:14:02,180 --> 01:14:04,605
[dramatic music]
1921
01:14:05,775 --> 01:14:06,774
- Mm-mm.
1922
01:14:07,001 --> 01:14:12,447
♪ ♪
1923
01:14:16,602 --> 01:14:17,860
- I hear tidbits from you.
1924
01:14:17,954 --> 01:14:19,269
I hear tidbits from you.
1925
01:14:19,289 --> 01:14:21,772
But I can never walk
in your shoes
1926
01:14:21,791 --> 01:14:23,015
And understand truly
what's going on.
1927
01:14:23,034 --> 01:14:24,107
- Hi, everybody.
- Oh!
1928
01:14:24,127 --> 01:14:27,186
- Oh, my god!
1929
01:14:27,279 --> 01:14:32,692
[overlapping shrieks, chatter]
1930
01:14:32,710 --> 01:14:34,026
- Hey, what's up?
1931
01:14:34,119 --> 01:14:36,362
- We've been listening. And--
1932
01:14:36,455 --> 01:14:37,697
- I didn't mean what I said.
I'm sorry.
1933
01:14:37,715 --> 01:14:39,790
- It's too late.
- No.
1934
01:14:39,809 --> 01:14:42,868
- One couple
has declared it over.
1935
01:14:42,962 --> 01:14:46,038
And that saddens us,
but we understand.
1936
01:14:46,131 --> 01:14:48,541
But four couples
are still together.
1937
01:14:48,634 --> 01:14:52,228
And confronting the truth
is what is hard,
1938
01:14:52,322 --> 01:14:55,214
But it's the only way
through it to what you need
1939
01:14:55,307 --> 01:14:56,716
And what you want
and what you hope for.
1940
01:14:56,734 --> 01:14:58,551
♪ ♪
1941
01:14:58,644 --> 01:14:59,994
- Alexis, as I was listening,
1942
01:15:00,221 --> 01:15:01,645
Here's one question
I have for you.
1943
01:15:01,664 --> 01:15:04,481
Could you make it
easier for him
1944
01:15:04,575 --> 01:15:06,742
When it comes to that intimacy?
1945
01:15:06,894 --> 01:15:09,337
Like, is--like, how does
that feel for you?
1946
01:15:09,564 --> 01:15:11,413
- Yes.
To answer your question, yes.
1947
01:15:11,508 --> 01:15:13,399
- And what could you do?
1948
01:15:13,492 --> 01:15:14,992
- He came to me this morning.
1949
01:15:15,086 --> 01:15:17,403
He said, "can I get some help?"
1950
01:15:17,421 --> 01:15:18,829
You know, like,
"I'm uncomfortable with it."
1951
01:15:18,923 --> 01:15:19,905
And I said yes.
- Thank you.
1952
01:15:19,924 --> 01:15:21,407
- Yes.
- That's good.
1953
01:15:21,425 --> 01:15:23,092
- I said yes. I answered.
I said, "yes, I can do that.
1954
01:15:23,244 --> 01:15:24,910
"but can you try
a little bit more?
1955
01:15:24,929 --> 01:15:26,412
"'cause it's only been
one night that you're
1956
01:15:26,430 --> 01:15:28,597
Trying to speak yourself
into this confidence."
1957
01:15:28,691 --> 01:15:30,024
And I felt like it could help
in other areas.
1958
01:15:30,251 --> 01:15:31,751
- Sure.
1959
01:15:31,844 --> 01:15:35,029
Justin, life is asking you
to step up.
1960
01:15:35,256 --> 01:15:36,346
You don't have to do it
with alexis,
1961
01:15:36,440 --> 01:15:38,440
But it's gonna come back.
1962
01:15:38,593 --> 01:15:40,851
This area right here,
it's gonna show up
1963
01:15:40,870 --> 01:15:42,185
In every other area
of your life.
1964
01:15:42,205 --> 01:15:43,596
It's not just
what's happening in the bed.
1965
01:15:43,689 --> 01:15:45,948
This is just a metaphor
for your life.
1966
01:15:46,042 --> 01:15:47,858
And so your wife is saying,
"hey, I will help.
1967
01:15:47,952 --> 01:15:49,026
"I'm gonna lean in.
1968
01:15:49,045 --> 01:15:50,378
I'm gonna make it easier
for you."
1969
01:15:50,605 --> 01:15:52,529
But I don't want you
to ease back
1970
01:15:52,623 --> 01:15:54,123
When it gets uncomfortable.
1971
01:15:54,217 --> 01:15:58,444
I want you in those moments
to say, "justin, you the man."
1972
01:15:58,462 --> 01:16:01,389
- I'm confident
in that area in intimacy.
1973
01:16:01,616 --> 01:16:03,391
But there's some stuff I just--
I've never done
1974
01:16:03,618 --> 01:16:07,286
Because I'm so used to it
being equal.
1975
01:16:07,305 --> 01:16:08,804
- But you've never gotten
married to a stranger before.
1976
01:16:08,898 --> 01:16:10,790
There's a lot of things on
this process you've never done.
1977
01:16:10,883 --> 01:16:12,716
I'm just asking you to try it.
1978
01:16:12,735 --> 01:16:14,293
- Every time you get
uncomfortable,
1979
01:16:14,312 --> 01:16:16,553
That may just be a trigger
for you to step in
1980
01:16:16,647 --> 01:16:17,646
Instead of stepping back.
1981
01:16:17,740 --> 01:16:19,481
- Just try it, baby.
1982
01:16:19,576 --> 01:16:21,967
- I'ma come at that thing
like a tasmanian devil
1983
01:16:22,061 --> 01:16:23,485
With teeth and all
and just rip it off.
1984
01:16:23,580 --> 01:16:25,729
- [laughs]
1985
01:16:25,748 --> 01:16:28,324
- All right,
so, krysten and mitch,
1986
01:16:28,418 --> 01:16:31,419
Did something happen?
1987
01:16:31,570 --> 01:16:34,814
- Um, I guess based off of
1988
01:16:34,907 --> 01:16:38,834
Your--your one-on-one
with my sister,
1989
01:16:38,928 --> 01:16:42,838
Do you think that you are over
your initial hurdles
1990
01:16:42,990 --> 01:16:44,432
Of your attraction to me?
1991
01:16:46,344 --> 01:16:49,103
Based off my conversation
with her, I learned,
1992
01:16:49,330 --> 01:16:51,755
Surprisingly, myself
that maybe you weren't.
1993
01:16:51,849 --> 01:16:53,349
[tense music]
1994
01:16:53,501 --> 01:16:56,593
And I guess
it kinda sent me backwards.
1995
01:16:56,613 --> 01:16:59,780
- So the initial rejection
was something very tough.
1996
01:17:00,007 --> 01:17:01,190
- Of course.
1997
01:17:01,342 --> 01:17:02,783
- You had a lot to get over.
1998
01:17:03,010 --> 01:17:04,952
Everybody wants
to feel desirable
1999
01:17:05,179 --> 01:17:07,196
And wanted
by their life partner.
2000
01:17:07,348 --> 01:17:09,439
- Yeah.
- And I thought
2001
01:17:09,459 --> 01:17:13,035
In our conversation, you
had experienced a big change
2002
01:17:13,129 --> 01:17:16,780
And found her very attractive
and really liked, you know,
2003
01:17:16,874 --> 01:17:19,024
Who she was and how she looked.
2004
01:17:19,043 --> 01:17:21,802
What did you say
that was different from then?
2005
01:17:22,029 --> 01:17:24,196
- Um...
2006
01:17:24,289 --> 01:17:26,048
I mean, it seems like--
I don't know,
2007
01:17:26,142 --> 01:17:29,368
I'm just gonna go based off
what I was picking up tonight.
2008
01:17:29,387 --> 01:17:34,815
But I think the last thing that
I told rachel, your sister,
2009
01:17:35,042 --> 01:17:38,635
Was like, "I wouldn't mind
your input on one thing.
2010
01:17:38,729 --> 01:17:43,232
"I am most attracted to my wife
2011
01:17:43,326 --> 01:17:46,643
More when she has--when she's
just actually more natural."
2012
01:17:46,737 --> 01:17:48,996
That's what I said.
2013
01:17:49,223 --> 01:17:51,815
- So in some ways,
that's a very big compliment.
2014
01:17:51,909 --> 01:17:54,151
That's, like, without hair,
without makeup, whatever,
2015
01:17:54,245 --> 01:17:55,485
He thinks you're beautiful.
2016
01:17:55,505 --> 01:17:56,337
Do you think
she's beautiful then?
2017
01:17:56,564 --> 01:17:57,672
- I do.
2018
01:17:57,823 --> 01:18:00,007
- Are you very attracted
to her?
2019
01:18:01,402 --> 01:18:02,902
- Um, I'm attracted to her.
2020
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:04,512
♪ ♪
2021
01:18:04,739 --> 01:18:06,496
- She's gonna hear that
the way I'm hearing that.
2022
01:18:06,590 --> 01:18:07,682
- Yeah,
the way I'm hearing it too.
2023
01:18:07,909 --> 01:18:09,183
- Well, you're putting me
on the spot
2024
01:18:09,410 --> 01:18:10,759
In front of everyone.
- I'm sorry. I--
2025
01:18:10,853 --> 01:18:12,169
- I mean, is that, like--
was that the way to do this?
2026
01:18:12,188 --> 01:18:13,837
I mean--
- it sounded to me like
2027
01:18:13,931 --> 01:18:15,356
You were very attracted to her,
2028
01:18:15,583 --> 01:18:17,674
At least
under those circumstances.
2029
01:18:17,694 --> 01:18:19,435
But I wouldn't have said it
if I wasn't expecting
2030
01:18:19,529 --> 01:18:20,936
An affirmative answer.
2031
01:18:21,088 --> 01:18:22,679
I thought your attraction
had really grown,
2032
01:18:22,773 --> 01:18:24,089
Or I wouldn't have asked.
2033
01:18:24,183 --> 01:18:25,607
If that's not true,
I'm sorry I asked.
2034
01:18:25,702 --> 01:18:27,535
- I am attracted to her.
2035
01:18:27,762 --> 01:18:29,686
It sounds like you know
the conversation already.
2036
01:18:29,706 --> 01:18:31,188
So, I mean,
there's no point in--
2037
01:18:31,282 --> 01:18:32,598
- There really is--
2038
01:18:32,691 --> 01:18:34,783
Mitch, there is no
secret conversation.
2039
01:18:34,877 --> 01:18:36,193
This literally just happened.
2040
01:18:36,212 --> 01:18:38,120
I spoke to her
before we got here.
2041
01:18:38,214 --> 01:18:42,441
And I was shocked that she said
that you brought up
2042
01:18:42,460 --> 01:18:46,445
That you were expecting
a "hippie girl"
2043
01:18:46,464 --> 01:18:48,113
To walk down the aisle.
2044
01:18:48,207 --> 01:18:50,391
And then you said,
"I need your advice.
2045
01:18:50,618 --> 01:18:53,561
"how can I get krysten
to dress down
2046
01:18:53,788 --> 01:18:55,971
And wear less makeup
and wear her hair natural?"
2047
01:18:56,065 --> 01:18:58,899
So she said that to me
right before we got here.
2048
01:18:59,126 --> 01:19:00,884
♪ ♪
2049
01:19:00,978 --> 01:19:04,964
- So I--just watching you,
2050
01:19:04,982 --> 01:19:07,057
I could just tell
you were angry and unhappy.
2051
01:19:07,076 --> 01:19:08,467
I could tell
by your body language.
2052
01:19:08,486 --> 01:19:10,319
- Yeah, this is very
embarrassing, dr. Pepper.
2053
01:19:10,413 --> 01:19:12,079
This is very hard.
2054
01:19:12,306 --> 01:19:13,472
What woman would sit here
and say
2055
01:19:13,491 --> 01:19:14,974
This is not embarrassing?
2056
01:19:14,992 --> 01:19:17,251
This is horrible.
2057
01:19:17,478 --> 01:19:19,587
This was a moment
to get to know me
2058
01:19:19,814 --> 01:19:22,648
Through my best friend
and my sister.
2059
01:19:22,666 --> 01:19:25,985
And you took it as a chance
to ask for advice
2060
01:19:26,078 --> 01:19:28,170
On how to get me to change,
2061
01:19:28,264 --> 01:19:30,431
Share why I wasn't the girl
you thought I would be.
2062
01:19:30,658 --> 01:19:34,918
You took that opportunity
to do that.
2063
01:19:35,012 --> 01:19:37,104
And it really upset me.
2064
01:19:37,331 --> 01:19:40,165
And I--what?
2065
01:19:40,184 --> 01:19:42,518
He's going to talk his way
out of this again,
2066
01:19:42,670 --> 01:19:45,446
Say something really nice
that makes sense?
2067
01:19:45,597 --> 01:19:47,356
What about action?
2068
01:19:47,508 --> 01:19:50,175
- Listen,
I think that none of us
2069
01:19:50,269 --> 01:19:52,769
Wanna see you unhappy
or embarrassed.
2070
01:19:52,863 --> 01:19:55,122
And I think this is something
we can support you in.
2071
01:19:55,349 --> 01:19:57,958
I think it's a conversation
you can get through.
2072
01:19:58,185 --> 01:20:01,295
I think your husband cares
a great deal for you.
2073
01:20:01,522 --> 01:20:04,373
And I do think
he finds you attractive.
2074
01:20:04,525 --> 01:20:08,210
And I think that if you
talk this over,
2075
01:20:08,304 --> 01:20:11,046
You'll find that there's
enough attraction and--
2076
01:20:11,140 --> 01:20:12,956
- I'm--I'm gonna stop you
right there, dr. Pepper.
2077
01:20:13,050 --> 01:20:14,533
[dramatic music]
2078
01:20:14,626 --> 01:20:16,718
I really, really respect
you guys.
2079
01:20:16,813 --> 01:20:19,296
I do. And I am, like,
2080
01:20:19,315 --> 01:20:22,391
A huge advocate
of the experience.
2081
01:20:22,543 --> 01:20:25,544
But I am not going to accept
2082
01:20:25,637 --> 01:20:28,063
He is attracted to me enough.
2083
01:20:28,157 --> 01:20:29,806
I am not going to accept
2084
01:20:29,826 --> 01:20:32,993
That he has come far
in this journey.
2085
01:20:33,220 --> 01:20:37,814
I am tired of accepting
his triumph
2086
01:20:37,834 --> 01:20:40,000
Over eight weeks
of needing professional help
2087
01:20:40,152 --> 01:20:41,727
To get there.
2088
01:20:41,745 --> 01:20:44,580
He has made me be so confused
about myself.
2089
01:20:44,674 --> 01:20:48,567
And I came in a full woman,
a confident woman,
2090
01:20:48,660 --> 01:20:51,178
Who was so excited about life
2091
01:20:51,405 --> 01:20:54,014
And to be a part of you guys
and this experience.
2092
01:20:54,166 --> 01:20:58,668
I want somebody who is excited
that I've walked into the room.
2093
01:20:58,688 --> 01:21:01,338
And I want somebody
who thinks that I'm beautiful
2094
01:21:01,432 --> 01:21:04,600
With a little bit of makeup on.
2095
01:21:04,694 --> 01:21:06,193
And I'm done.
2096
01:21:06,420 --> 01:21:08,253
♪ ♪
2097
01:21:08,272 --> 01:21:09,697
I'm done.
2098
01:21:09,924 --> 01:21:11,699
♪ ♪
2099
01:21:13,777 --> 01:21:15,536
- Ugh, I'm sorry.
2100
01:21:15,763 --> 01:21:18,447
- I don't--I don't need
an apology from you guys.
2101
01:21:18,541 --> 01:21:20,099
I need apology from him.
2102
01:21:20,117 --> 01:21:24,103
♪ ♪
2103
01:21:24,196 --> 01:21:27,864
- I--I don't even really know.
2104
01:21:27,958 --> 01:21:30,718
I mean, it's like...
2105
01:21:30,945 --> 01:21:32,386
This is all so blindsiding
to me.
2106
01:21:32,537 --> 01:21:33,703
- Oh, my god!
2107
01:21:33,797 --> 01:21:35,614
Is this blindsiding to anybody?
2108
01:21:35,633 --> 01:21:40,452
♪ ♪
2109
01:21:40,471 --> 01:21:42,287
- That [bleep] don't know
what he wants.
2110
01:21:42,381 --> 01:21:43,805
- Yeah.
- I just feel like mitch
2111
01:21:43,958 --> 01:21:45,882
Doesn't truly know
what he wants.
2112
01:21:45,976 --> 01:21:47,976
- I don't think nobody should
be halfway attracted to you,
2113
01:21:48,070 --> 01:21:49,069
Let alone your husband.
- Exactly. I agree.
2114
01:21:49,296 --> 01:21:50,295
I agree.
- I don't never think--
2115
01:21:50,389 --> 01:21:51,739
If you ever was like,
"babe, I'm fine."
2116
01:21:51,966 --> 01:21:53,240
But somebody asked you how
you feel about your wife
2117
01:21:53,467 --> 01:21:54,983
And you was like,
"eh, she cool."
2118
01:21:55,136 --> 01:21:56,059
Absolutely not. Forget it.
2119
01:21:56,153 --> 01:21:57,469
- He sounds like he needs
2120
01:21:57,562 --> 01:21:58,804
A hippie
from boulder, colorado.
2121
01:21:58,897 --> 01:21:59,729
- He needs somebody
with dirty feet.
2122
01:21:59,823 --> 01:22:01,156
- Dirty feet. Yup! [laughs]
2123
01:22:01,308 --> 01:22:03,751
- I hope you'll have
a better talk later
2124
01:22:03,902 --> 01:22:06,587
Between you two.
- Yeah.
2125
01:22:06,814 --> 01:22:08,088
- From the start
of this marriage,
2126
01:22:08,315 --> 01:22:10,165
I've not--
I have not been trying
2127
01:22:10,317 --> 01:22:11,926
To force my will on krysten.
2128
01:22:12,153 --> 01:22:14,319
I've not been trying to change
the person she is.
2129
01:22:14,338 --> 01:22:17,247
I've been trying to accept
the person she is.
2130
01:22:17,266 --> 01:22:20,659
So, I mean,
the way this has all happened
2131
01:22:20,752 --> 01:22:23,103
Is just really regrettable
for me.
2132
01:22:23,330 --> 01:22:26,106
- Every one of you, and I'm
looking at all of your eyes,
2133
01:22:26,258 --> 01:22:29,668
Every one of you, when we
married you, when we stood up,
2134
01:22:29,687 --> 01:22:32,854
Interviewed, and you--
everybody had the same story.
2135
01:22:32,949 --> 01:22:34,782
"I want to be married.
2136
01:22:34,933 --> 01:22:37,451
And I wanna do whatever I can
to make this work."
2137
01:22:37,678 --> 01:22:38,844
Here it is.
2138
01:22:38,862 --> 01:22:45,184
♪ ♪
2139
01:22:45,202 --> 01:22:47,444
Next time on
"married at first sight"...
2140
01:22:47,538 --> 01:22:49,204
- Vibrating panties.
2141
01:22:49,298 --> 01:22:51,114
- ♪ I thought we were tighter
than that ♪
2142
01:22:51,208 --> 01:22:53,634
- All right, let's do it.
2143
01:22:53,785 --> 01:22:56,528
- With decision day
less than two weeks away,
2144
01:22:56,547 --> 01:22:59,698
All couples are headed out
on a weekend couples retreat,
2145
01:22:59,791 --> 01:23:01,383
Where they can reconnect
and reflect
2146
01:23:01,477 --> 01:23:02,625
On their marriages.
2147
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:04,386
- Get in there, yo.
2148
01:23:04,480 --> 01:23:05,628
- ♪ I thought we were tighter
than that ♪
2149
01:23:05,723 --> 01:23:06,963
- Hey, beautiful.
2150
01:23:06,983 --> 01:23:08,207
You look like a goddess
right now.
2151
01:23:08,225 --> 01:23:09,541
- They had sex.
2152
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:11,543
- For real?
- Yeah.
2153
01:23:11,636 --> 01:23:14,546
- This category
is most likely to end up
2154
01:23:14,565 --> 01:23:16,398
With multiple divorces.
2155
01:23:16,550 --> 01:23:19,642
That's me, baby! It's me!
2156
01:23:19,737 --> 01:23:21,570
[dramatic music]
2157
01:23:21,664 --> 01:23:24,389
- There's this anger inside
of you that just like--
2158
01:23:24,483 --> 01:23:27,835
That [bleep] doesn't fly ever.
2159
01:23:28,062 --> 01:23:29,244
- You don't wanna see
a blow-up.
2160
01:23:29,338 --> 01:23:31,505
He cannot handle my outbursts.
2161
01:23:31,732 --> 01:23:33,007
[laughing]
- I just wanted to clear up--
2162
01:23:33,234 --> 01:23:34,750
- [screams]
2163
01:23:34,902 --> 01:23:36,235
I'm gonna go [bleep] crazy.
2164
01:23:36,253 --> 01:23:40,305
♪ ♪