1 00:00:05,367 --> 00:00:07,634 [phone ringing] 2 00:00:10,100 --> 00:00:12,300 The inside of the house was scorched pretty badly. 3 00:00:12,467 --> 00:00:15,300 This was an intentionally set fire. 4 00:00:17,066 --> 00:00:19,100 He was stabbed multiple times. 5 00:00:20,567 --> 00:00:22,000 It was very much a whodunit. 6 00:00:22,166 --> 00:00:25,367 My son told me, "No, Mom, he's been murdered." 7 00:00:25,533 --> 00:00:27,166 [Miller] This wasn't a home invasion. 8 00:00:27,166 --> 00:00:30,400 It was somebody that was welcomed in. 9 00:00:32,867 --> 00:00:34,700 The video, I mean, you can't even hope for 10 00:00:34,867 --> 00:00:36,667 something like that. There's no way. 11 00:00:36,667 --> 00:00:38,166 Where's she going? 12 00:00:38,166 --> 00:00:39,467 [Miller] It was shocking. 13 00:00:46,667 --> 00:00:48,367 [suspenseful electronic music] 14 00:00:50,166 --> 00:00:52,667 [static] [suspenseful music continues] 15 00:00:58,100 --> 00:01:00,467 [suspenseful music mellows] [static] 16 00:01:05,767 --> 00:01:07,200 [gentle music playing] 17 00:01:08,867 --> 00:01:11,667 [narrator] 56-year-old Andy McGuffee is cooking up a feast 18 00:01:11,834 --> 00:01:13,367 for his stepdaughter, Amanda, 19 00:01:13,367 --> 00:01:15,400 and his granddaughter, Lainey. 20 00:01:15,567 --> 00:01:18,367 [Amanda] Andy came into my life when I was around eight years old 21 00:01:18,533 --> 00:01:22,667 and he had met my mom and I immediately became 22 00:01:22,667 --> 00:01:25,100 his little sidekick. 23 00:01:25,100 --> 00:01:27,567 No matter what he was doing, he loved being in the kitchen. 24 00:01:28,567 --> 00:01:31,166 It's tamale day! Let's eat. 25 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:33,800 Our favorite, Pawpaw. 26 00:01:33,967 --> 00:01:35,900 He would always call me and my daughter to come up 27 00:01:36,066 --> 00:01:39,767 and have us try a new recipe and we loved it. 28 00:01:39,767 --> 00:01:41,767 My daughter loved her pawpaw. 29 00:01:45,166 --> 00:01:46,967 [contemplative music playing] 30 00:01:48,266 --> 00:01:51,100 [narrator] Andy's wife, Angela, isn't at tonight's dinner. 31 00:01:51,266 --> 00:01:54,767 She has COVID and is recovering at her father's house. 32 00:01:56,367 --> 00:01:58,567 [Angela] I got out of the hospital in October. 33 00:01:58,567 --> 00:02:03,667 They had forecasted some very strong tornadoes, 34 00:02:03,834 --> 00:02:09,367 and since Andy worked the night shift, and I was on oxygen 35 00:02:09,367 --> 00:02:14,000 still, I didn't want to be there in our home by myself. 36 00:02:14,900 --> 00:02:17,100 OK. That's all done. 37 00:02:18,100 --> 00:02:19,967 Alright. We're gonna head out. 38 00:02:20,867 --> 00:02:22,000 -See ya. -OK. 39 00:02:23,367 --> 00:02:25,867 -[softly] Bye. -Bye, you! 40 00:02:27,500 --> 00:02:31,600 I did speak to him Thursday evening. 41 00:02:31,767 --> 00:02:34,667 Ang? How are you my love? 42 00:02:34,834 --> 00:02:38,467 [Angela] He said that he would be picking me up as soon as he got 43 00:02:38,467 --> 00:02:40,000 off work the next day. 44 00:02:40,166 --> 00:02:43,367 And we said, "Good night, I love you." 45 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,800 And that is the last time that I spoke with him. 46 00:02:47,967 --> 00:02:48,900 OK, bye. 47 00:02:53,367 --> 00:02:54,867 [brooding music playing] 48 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,200 [narrator] Next morning, Andy's boss calls Angela. 49 00:02:59,367 --> 00:03:02,300 Andy failed to turn up for his 1:00 AM shift. 50 00:03:04,166 --> 00:03:07,600 I said, "Well, I'm very concerned because I've been 51 00:03:07,767 --> 00:03:11,367 with him for 30 years, and he's never missed work 52 00:03:11,367 --> 00:03:12,667 and not called." 53 00:03:13,567 --> 00:03:19,266 My son, Josh, lives a few miles from our home, and so I asked 54 00:03:19,433 --> 00:03:23,400 him if he would mind going over to the house and just checking 55 00:03:23,567 --> 00:03:25,567 on Andy to make sure he was okay. 56 00:03:26,867 --> 00:03:29,000 [rattling, suspenseful music playing] 57 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,166 [phone ringing] 58 00:03:34,100 --> 00:03:37,266 [narrator] Blanchard police officers respond to a 911 call 59 00:03:37,433 --> 00:03:38,467 from Josh. 60 00:03:38,467 --> 00:03:40,200 [sirens wailing] 61 00:03:42,667 --> 00:03:44,066 I think there's been a fire! 62 00:03:44,233 --> 00:03:45,567 [coughing] I think there's been a fire! 63 00:03:46,967 --> 00:03:49,867 The patrol officer could see that there was scorching around 64 00:03:49,867 --> 00:03:51,700 the front door. 65 00:03:54,166 --> 00:03:57,467 He went ahead and went inside, saw that the inside of 66 00:03:57,467 --> 00:03:59,166 the house was scorched pretty badly. 67 00:04:01,166 --> 00:04:06,000 He went into Andy's bedroom and saw his feet at the end 68 00:04:06,166 --> 00:04:07,800 of the bed. 69 00:04:10,266 --> 00:04:14,100 Even though upon initial glance, you couldn't really see how 70 00:04:14,266 --> 00:04:16,367 he had died, 71 00:04:16,533 --> 00:04:18,600 they were relatively certain that it was something that 72 00:04:18,767 --> 00:04:21,000 they wanted us to come out and investigate 73 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,133 um... pretty quickly. 74 00:04:26,567 --> 00:04:30,800 [narrator] Agents from the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation arrive 75 00:04:30,967 --> 00:04:34,100 on scene along with the fire marshal. 76 00:04:36,567 --> 00:04:40,834 Went into Andy's bedroom. He was covered up pretty well 77 00:04:43,300 --> 00:04:45,367 He was stabbed multiple times 78 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,200 I'm counting at least 11 stab wounds. 79 00:04:52,767 --> 00:04:55,867 We observed lacerations and cuts to the head, 80 00:04:56,033 --> 00:04:58,700 to the neck, to the face, to the chest. 81 00:04:58,867 --> 00:05:01,500 [Miller] Because of the widths of the stab marks, 82 00:05:01,667 --> 00:05:04,867 it looked like more than one weapon that was used to 83 00:05:05,033 --> 00:05:06,166 stab Andy. 84 00:05:09,667 --> 00:05:12,367 We quickly came to the conclusion that Andy had 85 00:05:12,367 --> 00:05:13,467 been murdered. 86 00:05:16,867 --> 00:05:18,100 [emotional piano music] 87 00:05:18,100 --> 00:05:20,600 [narrator] Josh calls his mom, Angela. 88 00:05:23,066 --> 00:05:26,266 It was really kind of surreal, 89 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:31,667 um, because it sounded like he was crying, 90 00:05:31,834 --> 00:05:33,667 but my son doesn't cry. 91 00:05:34,700 --> 00:05:35,767 Mom? 92 00:05:35,767 --> 00:05:37,166 He said, "Mom, Andy's dead." 93 00:05:37,166 --> 00:05:39,000 And I screamed, 94 00:05:39,900 --> 00:05:43,800 and, um, and I said, "Did he have a heart attack?" 95 00:05:43,967 --> 00:05:49,467 And that's when Josh told me, "No, Mom, he's been murdered." 96 00:05:54,300 --> 00:05:58,367 And, you know, then, of course, I just lost it. 97 00:05:58,367 --> 00:06:00,266 And I was like, "No, that can't be. 98 00:06:00,433 --> 00:06:02,100 That can't be. That just can't be." 99 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,400 [narrator] Agents searched the scene for clues. 100 00:06:13,867 --> 00:06:16,800 There was, uh, uh, like a recliner. 101 00:06:17,867 --> 00:06:20,467 And that's where you can really kind of first see the damage 102 00:06:20,634 --> 00:06:22,166 that had taken place, because it was 103 00:06:22,333 --> 00:06:23,767 burned and melted. 104 00:06:23,767 --> 00:06:27,934 You can see this gigantic black spot on the floor. 105 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,467 The boards there were just scorched. 106 00:06:32,634 --> 00:06:34,667 I mean, just completely blacked out. 107 00:06:34,667 --> 00:06:37,900 You also had rolls of paper towels 108 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:40,500 all laid out, 109 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,300 specifically to try to spread the fire. 110 00:06:50,767 --> 00:06:52,967 [Sheppard] We noticed they were aerosol cans that were put 111 00:06:53,133 --> 00:06:54,700 onto the stove. 112 00:06:54,867 --> 00:06:57,266 Had the fire been able to spread into the kitchen area, 113 00:06:57,266 --> 00:06:59,467 the aerosol canister would have made explosions. 114 00:07:00,667 --> 00:07:03,867 This was absolutely not an accidental fire. 115 00:07:03,867 --> 00:07:05,166 It wasn't a mishap. 116 00:07:05,166 --> 00:07:07,166 It wasn't a careless cook, 117 00:07:07,166 --> 00:07:08,867 a careless dropping of a cigarette. 118 00:07:08,867 --> 00:07:11,567 This was an intentionally set fire. 119 00:07:11,567 --> 00:07:14,567 [Miller] Whoever this was didn't have to force entry. 120 00:07:15,667 --> 00:07:18,600 I thought this wasn't a home invasion. 121 00:07:18,767 --> 00:07:21,066 This wasn't somebody that kicked in the door and just 122 00:07:21,233 --> 00:07:22,467 went to town on him. 123 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,367 It was somebody that was welcomed in. 124 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,700 [sustained ominous tones] 125 00:07:34,700 --> 00:07:38,767 [Miller] Angela got on scene. She had an oxygen tank on. 126 00:07:38,767 --> 00:07:41,000 She was using a walker to be able to get around. 127 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,166 My heart just went out to her, 128 00:07:43,166 --> 00:07:46,800 because she was very, very sick. 129 00:07:46,967 --> 00:07:51,600 Angela told us that she had spoken with Andy the night 130 00:07:51,767 --> 00:07:54,300 before, around six or seven at night. 131 00:07:54,467 --> 00:07:57,767 Then she was woken up the next morning by a phone call from 132 00:07:57,767 --> 00:08:01,100 Andy's boss, saying that Andy hadn't arrived 133 00:08:01,266 --> 00:08:03,100 at 1:00 AM for work. 134 00:08:03,266 --> 00:08:06,567 So Andy was killed during that time frame. 135 00:08:06,734 --> 00:08:09,266 Did you notice anything missing from the property? 136 00:08:10,867 --> 00:08:13,266 Josh was able to pick up that there was a lot of property 137 00:08:13,433 --> 00:08:14,567 that was missing. 138 00:08:14,567 --> 00:08:19,166 There was like a laptop that was missing, purses, DVDs, 139 00:08:20,266 --> 00:08:21,500 neck massager. 140 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,100 And Andy's white Toyota was missing. 141 00:08:26,266 --> 00:08:29,867 I found out that there were a large number of firearms that 142 00:08:29,867 --> 00:08:34,500 were missing from the house, including a pink BB gun. 143 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:37,867 We talked to a lot of the friends, 144 00:08:37,867 --> 00:08:39,367 a lot of the family. 145 00:08:39,367 --> 00:08:41,767 There was nobody that was upset with Andy. 146 00:08:41,934 --> 00:08:44,500 There was nobody that had any kind of motive to hurt him 147 00:08:44,667 --> 00:08:45,700 or anything like that. 148 00:08:45,867 --> 00:08:49,100 So, you know, you still don't have a suspect. 149 00:08:49,266 --> 00:08:50,367 It was very much a whodunit. 150 00:08:56,266 --> 00:08:59,166 [narrator] While investigators put out a BOLO for Andy's white pickup, 151 00:08:59,333 --> 00:09:02,100 agents worked to trace the missing items. 152 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,767 Agent Gatlin just happened to think, 153 00:09:07,767 --> 00:09:09,500 "Well, I'll check leads online." 154 00:09:09,667 --> 00:09:13,800 A database for pawnbrokers across the United States. 155 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,066 Hey, Matt, we got a hit on the pink BB gun. 156 00:09:18,233 --> 00:09:21,100 He was able to determine that a pink BB gun had been pawned 157 00:09:21,266 --> 00:09:23,100 and a neck massager had been pawned. 158 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:35,000 [narrator] The pawn shop is in Kansas, nearly 300 miles away. 159 00:09:35,166 --> 00:09:36,900 [brooding music playing] 160 00:09:38,467 --> 00:09:41,467 Agents review the store's surveillance footage at 161 00:09:41,467 --> 00:09:44,100 the Kansas Bureau of Investigation. 162 00:09:44,266 --> 00:09:46,667 Agent Hornsef, she was able to go to the pawn shop 163 00:09:46,834 --> 00:09:48,100 and get video. 164 00:09:48,100 --> 00:09:49,967 Play it from when the store opens. 165 00:09:58,166 --> 00:10:00,467 [mysterious, tense music playing] 166 00:10:16,166 --> 00:10:17,800 There. What's that? 167 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,100 Got the pink BB gun. And the neck massager. 168 00:10:33,700 --> 00:10:37,100 These two people come in to this pawn shop in Kansas. 169 00:10:38,266 --> 00:10:40,600 One of them placed a large number of firearms 170 00:10:40,767 --> 00:10:41,700 on the counter. 171 00:10:45,467 --> 00:10:47,867 One of them was, you know, a large individual. 172 00:10:49,767 --> 00:10:51,066 Punch in. 173 00:10:56,967 --> 00:11:00,500 They had items that we believed was pretty clearly 174 00:11:00,667 --> 00:11:02,300 belonging to the victim, Andy. 175 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,867 This unidentified person then starts to converse with 176 00:11:09,033 --> 00:11:11,867 a pawnbroker to try to sell that property. 177 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,467 Oh, there she is, she's making the deal. 178 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:22,700 Zoom in. 179 00:11:23,767 --> 00:11:25,367 [Miller] They signed the paperwork. 180 00:11:27,500 --> 00:11:29,867 Can we get that ticket up? 181 00:11:30,033 --> 00:11:32,166 [Miller] We were able to get signed pawn tickets. 182 00:11:33,867 --> 00:11:35,333 Punch in. 183 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,100 [Miller] And we come up with the name Debbie Senft. 184 00:11:42,266 --> 00:11:44,667 Get me everything you can on Debbie Senft. 185 00:11:44,667 --> 00:11:48,266 S-E-N-F-T. Mm-hmm. 186 00:11:48,266 --> 00:11:51,166 We're not ready to say that these folks killed 187 00:11:51,333 --> 00:11:52,467 Andy McGuffee, 188 00:11:56,467 --> 00:11:59,100 but what we can say for sure is that they had property that 189 00:11:59,100 --> 00:12:02,166 very much looks like Andy McGuffee's. 190 00:12:06,867 --> 00:12:09,467 [narrator] The next morning, investigators receive 191 00:12:09,467 --> 00:12:12,133 Andy's phone records. 192 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,767 [Miller] So, what we were able to see there is who Andy was last 193 00:12:18,767 --> 00:12:23,567 talking to the day before the homicide, and some of 194 00:12:23,567 --> 00:12:25,867 the messages that were going back and forth. 195 00:12:25,867 --> 00:12:28,967 That's a lot of messages from the same number. 196 00:12:38,367 --> 00:12:43,367 The text messages were trying to discuss how to 197 00:12:43,533 --> 00:12:45,200 meet up with each other. 198 00:12:45,367 --> 00:12:46,567 Look at this. 199 00:12:53,066 --> 00:12:56,567 [Miller] The tone of the messages was that they knew each other 200 00:12:56,734 --> 00:12:59,467 but they hadn't seen each other in quite some time. 201 00:12:59,634 --> 00:13:01,700 Andy's conversation was very much 202 00:13:01,867 --> 00:13:05,266 a social form. 203 00:13:06,266 --> 00:13:10,467 Andy had even sent a picture of some alcohol that he was 204 00:13:10,634 --> 00:13:13,567 drinking at his house saying you know, basically saying, 205 00:13:13,567 --> 00:13:15,100 "Yeah sure, come on by." 206 00:13:15,100 --> 00:13:18,166 [narrator] Andy arranged to meet this person at his house on 207 00:13:18,333 --> 00:13:19,533 the night he was killed. 208 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:23,867 We got to run that number to the database. 209 00:13:26,166 --> 00:13:29,667 [Miller] So he plugs the phone number in and we come up with the name. 210 00:13:31,300 --> 00:13:33,000 Hey man, you're not gonna believe it. 211 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,200 -It's Debbie Senft. -Debbie Senft? 212 00:13:37,667 --> 00:13:38,900 But I'm like, hold on a minute. 213 00:13:39,066 --> 00:13:41,266 That is the same person from that pawn shop. 214 00:13:42,367 --> 00:13:46,467 And so, my initial thought was, who is this person? 215 00:13:46,634 --> 00:13:48,900 Why are they talking with Andy? 216 00:13:49,066 --> 00:13:52,166 [narrator] Agent Miller calls Andy's family to see if they know 217 00:13:52,333 --> 00:13:53,433 a Debbie Senft. 218 00:13:54,567 --> 00:13:58,767 Hi, Mrs. McGuffee. This is Agent Miller from OSBI. 219 00:13:58,934 --> 00:14:02,066 He asked if I knew who Deborah Senft was, 220 00:14:03,266 --> 00:14:06,767 and I had never heard that name before. 221 00:14:06,767 --> 00:14:07,967 Never. 222 00:14:08,900 --> 00:14:10,033 Thank you for your time. 223 00:14:11,467 --> 00:14:15,000 I didn't know, honestly, what to think at that point. 224 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:19,000 What we weren't able to figure out is what kind of connection 225 00:14:19,166 --> 00:14:21,700 Debbie and Andy had. 226 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,667 You know, we don't know if it's a friend, you know, 227 00:14:26,834 --> 00:14:29,400 at the very worst a girlfriend or something like that 228 00:14:29,567 --> 00:14:31,634 that perhaps Angela didn't know about. 229 00:14:34,100 --> 00:14:37,367 [narrator] Andy's family salvage what they can from his home. 230 00:14:38,767 --> 00:14:41,800 I believe that going through the house and trying to clean 231 00:14:41,967 --> 00:14:44,467 up and everything, it's hard. 232 00:14:44,634 --> 00:14:47,266 It leaves a smell that you can't ever forget. 233 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,600 We didn't want to put mom through any more trouble 234 00:14:51,767 --> 00:14:54,166 since her COVID, her breathing 235 00:14:54,333 --> 00:14:55,467 and stuff like that. 236 00:14:55,634 --> 00:14:57,467 Didn't want her to be around the smoke. 237 00:14:58,867 --> 00:15:02,266 We wanted to see how bad it was first, before trying to 238 00:15:02,266 --> 00:15:03,567 let her go in. 239 00:15:05,467 --> 00:15:10,567 He had put so much hard work into that beautiful home. 240 00:15:10,567 --> 00:15:13,166 It was just taken away, destroyed. 241 00:15:14,100 --> 00:15:17,467 And that was hard. That was really hard. 242 00:15:22,266 --> 00:15:26,000 [narrator] Agents contact Andy's neighbors to find out if they saw 243 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,900 anything suspicious on the night he was murdered. 244 00:15:31,367 --> 00:15:34,567 [Miller] During our process of interviewing the neighbors, 245 00:15:34,734 --> 00:15:37,367 one woman that we were able to talk with had said that 246 00:15:37,533 --> 00:15:42,567 her husband had noticed an unusual vehicle 247 00:15:42,734 --> 00:15:44,867 at Andy's house the night before. 248 00:15:47,100 --> 00:15:48,700 He gave us a lot of good information. 249 00:15:48,867 --> 00:15:52,300 He said that it was like a dark colored, like a charcoal 250 00:15:52,467 --> 00:15:54,367 four-door sedan, and my immediate thought 251 00:15:54,533 --> 00:15:56,700 was some sort of Toyota or something like that 252 00:15:56,867 --> 00:15:59,100 from the description that he had given. 253 00:15:59,266 --> 00:16:03,100 Another interesting point was that he had noticed there was 254 00:16:03,266 --> 00:16:04,867 a large black dog, 255 00:16:05,033 --> 00:16:07,667 um, in the car as well. 256 00:16:07,834 --> 00:16:09,700 We looked at that as a potential source 257 00:16:09,867 --> 00:16:13,567 of further evidence. You know, you think 258 00:16:14,667 --> 00:16:17,166 maybe the person that's driving that car could have something 259 00:16:17,166 --> 00:16:20,033 to do with Andy's death. 260 00:16:22,467 --> 00:16:25,100 [narrator] Agents piece together Debbie Senft's movements in 261 00:16:25,100 --> 00:16:26,767 the lead-up to Andy's murder. 262 00:16:27,667 --> 00:16:30,900 They find that she rented a gray Toyota Corolla in Texas 263 00:16:31,066 --> 00:16:32,367 three weeks earlier. 264 00:16:33,266 --> 00:16:36,867 We were able to get the plate information for the gray car, 265 00:16:36,867 --> 00:16:38,367 get that to our dispatch, 266 00:16:38,367 --> 00:16:40,367 and be able to have that entered. 267 00:16:40,533 --> 00:16:43,467 Uh, yep. I got it. 268 00:16:43,634 --> 00:16:46,166 [Miller] A buddy of mine within the Oklahoma Highway Patrol, 269 00:16:46,166 --> 00:16:48,400 he tells me there was an accident. 270 00:16:48,567 --> 00:16:51,467 [narrator] A patrol officer responded to a crash involving 271 00:16:51,467 --> 00:16:53,300 the Corolla at 6:00 AM, 272 00:16:53,467 --> 00:16:56,000 the morning after Andy was killed. 273 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,266 They were able to provide, you know, copies of 274 00:16:58,266 --> 00:16:59,867 the accident, the citations, 275 00:17:01,066 --> 00:17:03,700 as well as the video from that accident. 276 00:17:03,867 --> 00:17:05,266 Here we go. 277 00:17:18,867 --> 00:17:20,867 [sustained suspenseful tone] 278 00:17:20,867 --> 00:17:23,266 [Miller] The vehicle had gone off the side of the road and hit 279 00:17:23,433 --> 00:17:26,367 one of the blinking signs that was on the side of the road. 280 00:17:46,467 --> 00:17:48,900 He was able to provide the Oklahoma Highway Patrol 281 00:17:49,066 --> 00:17:50,700 trooper with a name and date of birth. 282 00:18:02,767 --> 00:18:04,767 Who is Zachary Mussett? 283 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,667 [Miller] During that time, he called his mom to have 284 00:18:11,834 --> 00:18:13,967 her turn around so that she can pick up Zachary. 285 00:18:28,166 --> 00:18:32,266 Wait, did he just say his mom is Debbie Senft? 286 00:18:32,433 --> 00:18:34,000 I gotta pause it right there. 287 00:18:39,066 --> 00:18:42,200 [narrator] The person seen with Debbie Senft in the security footage 288 00:18:42,367 --> 00:18:45,567 from the Kansas pawn shop is Zachary Mussett, 289 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:50,166 Mother and son. 290 00:18:51,767 --> 00:18:54,767 [narrator] 19 minutes later, Debbie Senft arrives 291 00:18:54,767 --> 00:18:55,867 at the scene. 292 00:19:04,066 --> 00:19:05,266 [Miller] Debbie arrived. 293 00:19:05,266 --> 00:19:08,767 The conversation between the three parties on scene in 294 00:19:08,767 --> 00:19:11,200 that accident, which is, you know, the trooper, 295 00:19:11,367 --> 00:19:14,066 Zachary, and Debbie, was -- none of it made any sense. 296 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,700 He knows that they're acting weird, they're acting sketchy. 297 00:19:34,867 --> 00:19:38,200 You can tell that from the trooper's demeanor. 298 00:19:40,667 --> 00:19:45,000 [narrator] Agent Matt Miller calls Andy's family to ask if they recognize 299 00:19:45,166 --> 00:19:46,867 the name Zachary Mussett. 300 00:19:51,367 --> 00:19:52,767 Matt actually 301 00:19:54,166 --> 00:19:56,100 relayed the name "Mussett." 302 00:19:58,567 --> 00:20:02,066 I said, "Wait a minute, Zachary Mussett. 303 00:20:04,100 --> 00:20:05,667 That is Andy's nephew, 304 00:20:06,867 --> 00:20:09,467 who we haven't seen in 12 years." 305 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,867 My mom kind of lost it, and she goes, "Oh, my word, 306 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,467 Debbie Senft, that is Andy's half-sister." 307 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,500 [Angela] I said, "Yeah, if you would have said Debbie Mussett, I would 308 00:20:25,667 --> 00:20:27,567 have been able to tell you right from the beginning." 309 00:20:29,467 --> 00:20:33,100 I did not know if she had ever gotten married and that 310 00:20:33,266 --> 00:20:35,700 her last name had ever changed. 311 00:20:35,867 --> 00:20:38,567 [Miller] Our two suspects in this case were actually 312 00:20:38,567 --> 00:20:40,367 related to the victim. 313 00:20:42,266 --> 00:20:44,200 And that is what 314 00:20:45,300 --> 00:20:46,867 is really surprising. 315 00:20:48,367 --> 00:20:51,000 We had figured out that they had pawned items that 316 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,867 belonged to Andy in Kansas. 317 00:20:55,300 --> 00:20:59,467 We then know that Zach was in an accident in Oklahoma City 318 00:20:59,634 --> 00:21:02,600 around six o'clock in the morning, the day after 319 00:21:02,767 --> 00:21:04,367 Andy was killed. 320 00:21:04,367 --> 00:21:07,300 But what we don't know is what happened the day of the murder 321 00:21:08,467 --> 00:21:10,500 and that's our job to figure out. 322 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:21,000 [narrator] Agents secure the GPS data for Debbie Senft's phone. 323 00:21:23,100 --> 00:21:26,567 Lieutenant Gatlin was able to plot out Debbie's cell phone 324 00:21:26,734 --> 00:21:28,967 locations and determine that she was, in fact, in the area 325 00:21:29,133 --> 00:21:33,500 during our period of time where Andy may have been killed, 326 00:21:33,667 --> 00:21:37,500 in between that 6:00 to 7:00 time, to 1:00 AM. 327 00:21:37,667 --> 00:21:39,300 Hey, Matt, come look at this. 328 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:51,767 Around six o'clock, Debbie was at Love's Travel Stop 329 00:21:51,767 --> 00:21:54,767 in Oklahoma City, pretty close to Andy's house. 330 00:21:54,934 --> 00:21:56,300 We better get down there. 331 00:22:05,166 --> 00:22:09,000 [footsteps] [suspenseful music playing] 332 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,500 [narrator] Agents search the area around Love's for clues that might 333 00:22:12,667 --> 00:22:15,700 reveal Debbie and Zachary's movements during that time. 334 00:22:15,867 --> 00:22:19,100 So next door to this Love's is a car wash. 335 00:22:20,900 --> 00:22:22,467 We go through the car wash. 336 00:22:28,266 --> 00:22:29,867 Dave! Look. 337 00:22:30,033 --> 00:22:32,700 [Miller] We actually find the victim's truck. 338 00:22:32,867 --> 00:22:34,367 Haha, bingo. 339 00:22:41,667 --> 00:22:44,000 We were able to get a hold of the owner of the car wash. 340 00:22:44,166 --> 00:22:46,367 Major Miller from the OSBI. 341 00:22:47,700 --> 00:22:50,000 We need to see your surveillance footage now. 342 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,467 [Miller] The owner says, "Yeah, I've got video cameras 343 00:22:53,634 --> 00:22:55,000 all over that thing." 344 00:22:58,266 --> 00:23:01,000 [rattling, suspenseful music playing] 345 00:23:02,166 --> 00:23:05,367 I started watching the videos. 346 00:23:05,533 --> 00:23:07,100 Load up the outside camera 347 00:23:08,667 --> 00:23:11,300 around 1:30 on the 15th. 348 00:23:13,767 --> 00:23:16,166 [Miller] I wasn't quite sure what I was gonna get. 349 00:23:16,166 --> 00:23:19,467 At the most, I thought at that point to get some sort of 350 00:23:19,467 --> 00:23:21,900 pinpoint location that I could get some sort of forensic 351 00:23:22,066 --> 00:23:25,700 information or forensic evidence for the case. 352 00:23:28,166 --> 00:23:31,400 What I never could have expected is that I would have 353 00:23:31,567 --> 00:23:34,500 videos better than that forensic evidence. 354 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,467 Wait, stop. 355 00:23:44,567 --> 00:23:48,400 [Miller] On the video from the car wash, it's around 1:30, 356 00:23:48,567 --> 00:23:52,266 you have them pulling in in the Penske moving truck. 357 00:23:54,500 --> 00:23:56,900 But you also have them pulling in 358 00:23:57,066 --> 00:23:59,800 in Andy's white Toyota Tacoma. 359 00:24:08,166 --> 00:24:10,266 [brooding music playing] 360 00:24:12,266 --> 00:24:15,967 [Miller] You can see them parking Andy's truck 361 00:24:18,166 --> 00:24:21,867 and then parking the Penske truck at the car wash. 362 00:24:27,066 --> 00:24:30,367 Switch to the inside. [clicking] 363 00:24:34,300 --> 00:24:35,467 Let's zoom in. 364 00:24:39,300 --> 00:24:40,400 And pause it there. 365 00:24:41,767 --> 00:24:43,066 [Miller] What you see 366 00:24:43,233 --> 00:24:47,467 is an inspection of several different weapons 367 00:24:47,467 --> 00:24:49,000 that are in the car. 368 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:53,567 And Zach almost kind of taking stock of what they have. 369 00:25:01,100 --> 00:25:03,767 Some headlights appear towards the top of the frame. 370 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,734 Switch to the next bay. 371 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:14,400 [Miller] Debbie then pulls the Corolla into the next stall over. 372 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,467 [dramatic music playing] 373 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:29,467 So in one bay, you have the Toyota Corolla... 374 00:25:30,567 --> 00:25:31,900 Switch back. 375 00:25:33,867 --> 00:25:37,900 [Miller] ...and then in the next stall over is Andy's truck. 376 00:25:39,166 --> 00:25:43,166 And then you have the Penske moving truck that's concealing 377 00:25:43,166 --> 00:25:44,567 what they're actually doing. 378 00:25:52,500 --> 00:25:55,567 They both look straight up at the camera in one of the bays. 379 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,867 [chuckling] Can you believe it? 380 00:26:00,767 --> 00:26:04,667 [Miller] But instead of stopping and moving, they just keep on 381 00:26:04,834 --> 00:26:05,800 doing what they're doing. 382 00:26:07,667 --> 00:26:09,667 Andy's truck had a camper shell on it. 383 00:26:09,667 --> 00:26:12,767 It was open so that they could then load property straight 384 00:26:12,767 --> 00:26:15,667 from the back of the truck into the Penske moving truck. 385 00:26:17,767 --> 00:26:19,800 They were unloading Andy's stuff and putting it in 386 00:26:19,967 --> 00:26:21,967 their truck, figuring out what they wanted to keep, 387 00:26:22,133 --> 00:26:23,166 what they didn't want to keep. 388 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,567 Pause it. Zoom in. 389 00:26:36,500 --> 00:26:39,467 There, the neck massager from Andy's home. 390 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,066 [Miller] Because I've been involved in this case from the very 391 00:26:44,233 --> 00:26:48,100 beginning, it's very exciting, especially whenever you start 392 00:26:48,100 --> 00:26:49,867 recognizing things that are actually coming out 393 00:26:49,867 --> 00:26:51,000 of the truck. 394 00:26:58,367 --> 00:26:59,867 Take me to the outside camera. 395 00:27:05,567 --> 00:27:10,166 [Miller] And on the other side of the car wash, you can see them actually 396 00:27:10,333 --> 00:27:12,800 throwing property away in the dumpster in the back. 397 00:27:18,567 --> 00:27:24,100 It was really cold-blooded that anything that they had taken 398 00:27:24,100 --> 00:27:26,667 from Andy that they didn't necessarily want, 399 00:27:28,367 --> 00:27:32,066 they just threw away in a large dumpster behind the car wash. 400 00:27:32,900 --> 00:27:34,467 Take me back to the inside camera. 401 00:27:40,100 --> 00:27:41,567 Wait, what's that? 402 00:27:45,367 --> 00:27:51,433 Zachary pulls out a knife from the truck, walks off screen, 403 00:27:53,900 --> 00:27:56,667 and then comes back wiping the knife off on his pants. 404 00:27:57,667 --> 00:27:59,600 That could have been our murder weapon. 405 00:28:00,967 --> 00:28:02,867 He was destroying evidence. 406 00:28:11,767 --> 00:28:15,300 They spend four or five hours unloading property 407 00:28:15,467 --> 00:28:16,700 into this Penske. 408 00:28:20,867 --> 00:28:23,667 Once you can kind of tell they're starting to wrap up, 409 00:28:23,667 --> 00:28:25,066 they're about to leave, 410 00:28:25,967 --> 00:28:29,800 they start wiping Andy's truck down 411 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,667 in the anticipation that somebody is going to find it. 412 00:28:35,834 --> 00:28:38,600 And so you can see them kind of going through in their mind 413 00:28:38,767 --> 00:28:40,667 everywhere that they've touched, which is like, 414 00:28:40,667 --> 00:28:42,867 you know, the handle on the camper shell, 415 00:28:42,867 --> 00:28:44,700 the door handle. 416 00:28:47,166 --> 00:28:50,166 You would never in 1,000 years say, "Well, yeah, I hope 417 00:28:50,333 --> 00:28:53,266 they, we've got a video of them driving it in, and then trying 418 00:28:53,266 --> 00:28:55,567 to destroy evidence by wiping their fingerprints 419 00:28:55,567 --> 00:28:57,467 off everything." There's no way. 420 00:29:01,700 --> 00:29:05,166 [narrator] Debbie and Zachary leave the car wash at 5:30 AM. 421 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,867 [Miller] It's pretty clear at that point that there were no other 422 00:29:12,033 --> 00:29:15,266 suspects other than Debbie or Zachary. 423 00:29:15,266 --> 00:29:17,667 So that's when the decision was made to go ahead and type up 424 00:29:17,667 --> 00:29:18,767 that arrest warrant. 425 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,467 [narrator] The family are left reeling after receiving the news that 426 00:29:25,634 --> 00:29:28,767 Andy's half-sister and nephew could be involved in his murder. 427 00:29:30,667 --> 00:29:36,166 It was extremely difficult for me to comprehend, because 428 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,300 they had dropped so far off of my radar. 429 00:29:40,467 --> 00:29:45,500 You know, I mean, as far as I knew, we had no contact 430 00:29:45,667 --> 00:29:46,967 with them at all. 431 00:29:48,667 --> 00:29:52,600 There were no words to explain how shocked we were that family 432 00:29:52,767 --> 00:29:55,200 members could do that. 433 00:29:55,367 --> 00:29:58,000 [Angela] It was hard to wrap my mind around it, all of it. 434 00:29:58,166 --> 00:30:02,166 Just to know that someone in his family was capable of that 435 00:30:02,166 --> 00:30:03,567 just made it too hard. 436 00:30:05,567 --> 00:30:09,567 [narrator] Agents ping Debbie's phone to pinpoint her location. 437 00:30:09,567 --> 00:30:11,600 It reveals that she's in Wyoming. 438 00:30:14,066 --> 00:30:17,100 Agents call local law enforcement to make the arrest. 439 00:30:18,667 --> 00:30:22,500 [Miller] Wyoming enlists a couple of their guys to kind of wait in 440 00:30:22,667 --> 00:30:24,600 a certain part of the state that they assumed that 441 00:30:24,767 --> 00:30:27,467 they would probably be traveling through. 442 00:30:27,467 --> 00:30:30,066 And they just waited for a Penske truck to come by. 443 00:30:30,233 --> 00:30:31,367 You got eyes on 'em? 444 00:30:32,567 --> 00:30:34,967 They confirmed pretty easily that Debbie was driving 445 00:30:35,133 --> 00:30:38,467 the truck, and then radioed their counterparts on 446 00:30:38,634 --> 00:30:40,066 the highway patrol. 447 00:30:40,233 --> 00:30:42,000 When the moment's right, bring him in. 448 00:30:45,567 --> 00:30:47,166 Hands where I can see 'em! 449 00:30:48,867 --> 00:30:50,600 Step outside of the vehicle slowly. 450 00:30:51,667 --> 00:30:52,900 Keep your hands up. 451 00:30:53,066 --> 00:30:54,100 [Miller] It was very peaceful. 452 00:30:54,100 --> 00:30:57,867 Neither one put up a fight or anything like that. 453 00:30:58,033 --> 00:30:59,000 Slowly. 454 00:31:00,767 --> 00:31:02,100 Turn around, hands behind your head. 455 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,867 [Miller] And we were able to get Debbie and Zach taken to jail. 456 00:31:08,033 --> 00:31:09,233 [Officer] Alright, let's get this thing towed. 457 00:31:09,233 --> 00:31:13,166 [Miller] Debbie is one of the more unassuming people that 458 00:31:13,166 --> 00:31:17,400 I've ever arrested, but Andy was stabbed multiple times, 459 00:31:17,567 --> 00:31:21,166 so whenever you have somebody that was stabbed that many 460 00:31:21,333 --> 00:31:24,700 times in a brutal, brutal attack, 461 00:31:26,867 --> 00:31:29,467 you know you're dealing with a very dangerous person. 462 00:31:29,634 --> 00:31:32,567 One of the biggest questions that I had was the motivation, 463 00:31:32,734 --> 00:31:34,767 because at that point, you know, we had no idea what 464 00:31:34,934 --> 00:31:35,867 they might say. 465 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,000 [narrator] Agents travel to Wyoming. 466 00:31:46,900 --> 00:31:50,100 They analyze the moving truck that Debbie was driving at 467 00:31:50,266 --> 00:31:52,266 the time of her arrest. 468 00:31:52,433 --> 00:31:57,000 [Miller] So we found not only his ID in his wallet with his debit cards 469 00:31:57,166 --> 00:32:00,166 and things like that, but we found, you know, one of 470 00:32:00,166 --> 00:32:02,200 the guns that was reported missing that we had 471 00:32:02,367 --> 00:32:04,100 a serial number for. 472 00:32:04,266 --> 00:32:07,367 We found a wedding picture. 473 00:32:08,667 --> 00:32:10,700 There was a large gun case. 474 00:32:10,867 --> 00:32:13,900 But there was all kinds of stuff -- glasses that were 475 00:32:14,066 --> 00:32:15,166 wrapped in dish towels. 476 00:32:17,100 --> 00:32:19,400 And I thought to myself, why would you steal that? 477 00:32:20,700 --> 00:32:24,600 Like, if it was not nailed down, they took it. 478 00:32:32,266 --> 00:32:35,367 [narrator] Next, the agents interview the suspects. 479 00:32:35,533 --> 00:32:36,934 They start with Zachary. 480 00:32:38,100 --> 00:32:40,467 [Miller] The first thing that I noticed about Zach is that he was 481 00:32:40,467 --> 00:32:43,000 wearing the exact same clothing that he was in 482 00:32:43,166 --> 00:32:45,066 the Kansas pawn shop video. 483 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,767 [narrator] Zachary tells the agents that he and his mom, Debbie, 484 00:32:48,767 --> 00:32:51,300 were relocating from Texas to Colorado. 485 00:32:53,166 --> 00:32:57,367 Zachary described stopping at different churches to try to 486 00:32:57,367 --> 00:33:01,467 get gas money, as well as looking for handouts for food 487 00:33:01,634 --> 00:33:04,467 or anything else that they could possibly get from 488 00:33:04,467 --> 00:33:05,800 the goodwill of others. 489 00:33:05,967 --> 00:33:10,266 They paid Andy a brief visit on their way through Oklahoma. 490 00:33:10,433 --> 00:33:11,867 I said, "Well, okay, well, what were you driving?" 491 00:33:12,033 --> 00:33:15,567 And he tells me, "A four-door gray, like, Toyota Corolla." 492 00:33:15,734 --> 00:33:17,700 So that shows you you're on the right track. 493 00:33:17,867 --> 00:33:21,867 The neighbors had told us there was a large black dog 494 00:33:21,867 --> 00:33:23,033 in the car. 495 00:33:23,033 --> 00:33:25,967 So I said, "Chance, you had any dogs or anything like that 496 00:33:26,133 --> 00:33:27,233 with you?" And he's like, "Yeah." 497 00:33:28,467 --> 00:33:31,867 So you have another little grain of sand that lets 498 00:33:32,033 --> 00:33:34,166 you know that you're on the right path. 499 00:33:34,333 --> 00:33:38,200 So you stayed with Andy for an hour, two max, right? 500 00:33:39,367 --> 00:33:41,867 That's right, and then we hit the road. 501 00:33:42,033 --> 00:33:44,100 So what did you and your mom do for those few hours 502 00:33:44,266 --> 00:33:45,500 you were with Andy? 503 00:33:45,500 --> 00:33:48,567 [Miller] He told me that he was eating eggs and sausage at 504 00:33:48,567 --> 00:33:49,834 Andy's house, 505 00:33:50,266 --> 00:33:53,266 which was a valuable piece of information because we found 506 00:33:53,433 --> 00:33:55,467 plates of food that had eggs and sausage. 507 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,300 Agent Miller reveals to Zachary that Andy McGuffee was 508 00:34:00,467 --> 00:34:02,800 murdered, and his home set on fire. 509 00:34:05,266 --> 00:34:07,400 Was there some sort of disagreement? 510 00:34:07,567 --> 00:34:09,266 Did a fight break out? 511 00:34:10,367 --> 00:34:12,200 Can you tell me what happened? 512 00:34:12,367 --> 00:34:15,600 But whenever we got to the part where Andy was murdered, 513 00:34:15,767 --> 00:34:17,300 he would just say he doesn't remember. 514 00:34:17,467 --> 00:34:21,567 So you move on past that until I show him a picture of him 515 00:34:21,734 --> 00:34:24,000 inside the pawn shop. And I say, 516 00:34:24,166 --> 00:34:25,400 Is that you? 517 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,667 -Yeah. -Who's that with you? 518 00:34:31,767 --> 00:34:33,000 That's my mom. 519 00:34:33,166 --> 00:34:35,867 "What were you guys doing?" "I don't know." 520 00:34:36,033 --> 00:34:37,867 "Well, let me show you some of this video." 521 00:34:45,900 --> 00:34:48,367 Do you agree that it looks like you're pawning something? 522 00:34:48,533 --> 00:34:50,900 "Yeah." "What are you pawning?" "I don't know." 523 00:34:54,567 --> 00:34:56,867 Where would you get that sort of stuff? 524 00:34:56,867 --> 00:34:58,066 [Miller] "I don't know." 525 00:34:58,066 --> 00:35:01,266 So it's pretty clear at that point, that even with pressing 526 00:35:01,266 --> 00:35:06,100 or whatever you can do or tips or tricks that you can try to 527 00:35:06,266 --> 00:35:07,567 get him to tell you the truth, that 528 00:35:07,567 --> 00:35:09,200 he's probably not going to. 529 00:35:13,100 --> 00:35:17,100 [narrator] Next, agents interview Zachary's mother, Debbie. 530 00:35:17,266 --> 00:35:20,800 [Miller] Debbie was certainly the leader of the two. 531 00:35:20,967 --> 00:35:23,367 I mean, he was her adult son. 532 00:35:23,367 --> 00:35:26,567 I mean, he was twice the size that she is in both height 533 00:35:26,567 --> 00:35:31,300 and weight, but she was definitely calling the shots. 534 00:35:32,500 --> 00:35:34,100 Do you know Andy McGuffee? 535 00:35:34,100 --> 00:35:37,000 She says, "Yeah, well, that's my half-brother." 536 00:35:37,166 --> 00:35:39,700 Zach just told us you went to see Andy. 537 00:35:41,166 --> 00:35:44,600 [Miller] I just tried to point out what we already knew, along with 538 00:35:44,767 --> 00:35:47,800 some of the information that Zach had told us, to see if 539 00:35:47,967 --> 00:35:49,567 she would change her story. 540 00:35:49,567 --> 00:35:51,166 I ain't saying no more. 541 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:53,767 I want my lawyer. 542 00:35:53,934 --> 00:35:57,200 And what that ultimately ended with is her just asking for 543 00:35:57,367 --> 00:36:01,200 a lawyer, so the interview pretty much stopped after that. 544 00:36:01,367 --> 00:36:04,000 But by that point, we do believe that we've got 545 00:36:04,166 --> 00:36:05,367 enough information. 546 00:36:05,367 --> 00:36:09,400 So Lieutenant Gatlin and I charged both Zachary and Debbie 547 00:36:09,567 --> 00:36:12,266 with murder in the first degree and arson. 548 00:36:17,500 --> 00:36:20,066 [narrator] February 14, 2023, 549 00:36:21,367 --> 00:36:25,100 Debbie Senft and Zachary Mussett stand trial for the murder of 550 00:36:25,266 --> 00:36:26,367 Andy McGuffee. 551 00:36:28,166 --> 00:36:30,867 Prosecutors stepped through the events that led 552 00:36:30,867 --> 00:36:32,800 to his killing. 553 00:36:35,266 --> 00:36:38,767 The night that Andy was murdered, what they ended up 554 00:36:38,934 --> 00:36:44,800 doing was parking the Penske at the Love's, and then taking 555 00:36:44,967 --> 00:36:49,000 their rented Toyota Corolla out to Andy's. 556 00:36:50,266 --> 00:36:52,867 We know that they were at Andy's house. 557 00:36:54,667 --> 00:36:58,000 We had found the plates of food 558 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,567 more than one person had been eating. 559 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,100 [intense suspenseful music playing] 560 00:37:12,100 --> 00:37:15,100 One of them probably distracted them, the other hit them, 561 00:37:15,100 --> 00:37:16,600 and then they both stabbed him. 562 00:37:21,467 --> 00:37:26,100 So Debbie and Zach both then load up all of his possessions 563 00:37:26,266 --> 00:37:27,800 in his own truck 564 00:37:31,166 --> 00:37:32,500 and their car. 565 00:37:37,567 --> 00:37:40,767 We believe they probably moved Andy's body from the living 566 00:37:40,934 --> 00:37:45,000 room to his bedroom because of how he was positioned and how 567 00:37:45,166 --> 00:37:46,567 he was wrapped up in the blanket. 568 00:37:50,266 --> 00:37:53,200 And then they went to great lengths to try to set this fire 569 00:37:53,367 --> 00:37:55,166 to make sure that it would burn the house down. 570 00:37:55,333 --> 00:37:56,867 [door slams] 571 00:37:58,066 --> 00:37:59,500 [engine revving] 572 00:38:08,300 --> 00:38:13,667 They go back to their moving truck with two car loads full 573 00:38:13,834 --> 00:38:17,266 of Andy's property. in the late, late hours. 574 00:38:21,567 --> 00:38:26,100 They spend a long time unloading property from 575 00:38:26,100 --> 00:38:27,400 Andy's truck, 576 00:38:29,867 --> 00:38:33,700 and they leave around 5:30 in the morning. 577 00:38:36,166 --> 00:38:38,700 Debbie and Zach made it to Kansas, 578 00:38:39,700 --> 00:38:43,000 where the pink BB gun had been pawned, and a neck massager 579 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,300 had been pawned. 580 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,467 They kept going north up through Nebraska. 581 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,000 Three days later, they were caught in Wyoming. 582 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,000 Hands where I can see them! 583 00:38:59,166 --> 00:39:01,967 [Miller] The motivation very much looks like it's just... 584 00:39:02,967 --> 00:39:04,166 ...theft. 585 00:39:04,166 --> 00:39:07,266 They made it very clear that they were very short on funds 586 00:39:07,433 --> 00:39:10,967 at that particular time, and that was what they knew 587 00:39:11,133 --> 00:39:13,266 that they could do to get money. 588 00:39:13,266 --> 00:39:17,166 I mean, that's just to take somebody out of this world for 589 00:39:17,333 --> 00:39:20,266 all their possessions is just a hard pill to swallow. 590 00:39:21,500 --> 00:39:26,000 In the multiple times that I've had interaction with them, 591 00:39:26,166 --> 00:39:29,100 there was never any sign of remorse, 592 00:39:29,100 --> 00:39:32,767 never any tears, nothing. 593 00:39:34,567 --> 00:39:38,100 [narrator] The jury finds both Debbie and Zachary guilty of 594 00:39:38,100 --> 00:39:39,367 first-degree murder. 595 00:39:40,100 --> 00:39:43,266 The judge sentences them to life in prison without parole 596 00:39:43,433 --> 00:39:46,867 for Andy's killing and 35 years for arson. 597 00:39:48,100 --> 00:39:49,300 [Angela] That was a relief. 598 00:39:49,467 --> 00:39:51,567 I'm actually grateful that that's the sentence that 599 00:39:51,567 --> 00:39:52,667 they went with. 600 00:39:52,667 --> 00:39:54,867 A lot of tears and a lot of smiles. 601 00:39:56,767 --> 00:40:00,667 [Miller] I don't think it's overstating anything to say that the videos 602 00:40:00,667 --> 00:40:03,767 of them unloading and loading stuff at the car wash was 603 00:40:03,767 --> 00:40:05,567 a nail in the coffin. 604 00:40:15,166 --> 00:40:18,867 [narrator] Investigators found no evidence that any of Debbie's brothers 605 00:40:19,033 --> 00:40:22,634 had knowledge of or involvement in Andy's murder. 606 00:40:25,100 --> 00:40:26,867 [soft piano music playing] 607 00:40:26,867 --> 00:40:31,300 I'm both sad and angry that Andy no longer gets to be here 608 00:40:31,467 --> 00:40:35,600 to watch all the grandkids excel in life, 609 00:40:37,500 --> 00:40:39,767 that they don't get to have their grandpa to go fishing 610 00:40:39,934 --> 00:40:43,667 with, and have him cooking up his awesome food. 611 00:40:44,767 --> 00:40:47,767 He cherished all of his grandkids. 612 00:40:49,100 --> 00:40:51,767 I'm pretty sure my mom still cries every day. 613 00:40:51,934 --> 00:40:54,567 I'm almost positive she still cries every night. 614 00:40:54,567 --> 00:40:57,767 I know she's got the last voicemail that 615 00:40:57,934 --> 00:40:59,967 he ever left her. 616 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:01,767 It would surprise me if she still doesn't listen it 617 00:41:01,767 --> 00:41:04,266 every day, just so she can have his voice. 618 00:41:06,700 --> 00:41:12,266 [Angela] The impact that it's had on me, for certain, is devastating. 619 00:41:13,300 --> 00:41:15,667 I really think he was one of a kind. 620 00:41:15,667 --> 00:41:19,100 I used to say he was my whole package, my whole package.