1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,040 {\an8}JESS: Are we saying that we think this was Hume? 2 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:03,720 {\an8}Worst case, maybe three months. 3 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:05,680 {\an8}Which is not enough. Gatwick? 4 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,360 They said you were a person of interest in a murder. 5 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,400 'If you could present yourself at Bishop Street.' 6 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:12,200 Help! Help! SHOUTS: Armed police! 7 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,800 I'm not Joseph Bell. I'm Joe's half-brother. 8 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:16,080 I need a break. 9 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:17,840 I'm sorry, my love. Steve, are you in there? 10 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,720 The first company that Hume worked for was the same company 11 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,160 that Ebele Falade walked into with an air pistol. 12 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:24,200 She was shouting, 13 00:00:24,240 --> 00:00:26,600 "I wanna speak to my dad, Tony bloody Hume." 14 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,040 Did the caller say who the body was? 15 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,160 A young man named Joseph Bell. 16 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,800 MUSIC: 'All We Do' by Oh Wonder 17 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,760 {\an8}# All we do is hide away 18 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,720 {\an8}# All we do is All we do is hide away 19 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,040 {\an8}# All we do is lie in wait 20 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,480 {\an8}# All we do is All we do is lie in wait 21 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:00,080 {\an8}# I've been upside down 22 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:04,160 {\an8}# I don't want to be The right way round 23 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,880 {\an8}# Can't find paradise On the ground. # 24 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,720 CHATTER 25 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:24,240 SUNNY: And it is male? 26 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:28,360 Looking at the brow ridge, the mastoid process, I'd say yes. 27 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,600 And young. Anything else jumping out? 28 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,640 Aside from the two bullet-shaped holes in his skull? Apart from them. 29 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,000 Not yet. This level of decomposition, 30 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,880 might that suggest how long he's been here for, roughly? 31 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,000 If you mean could it have been around the same time 32 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,880 as Precious Falade was killed, then, yes, it's not inconsistent. 33 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:46,560 OK. Thanks, Leanne. 34 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,600 DNA sample as soon as soon as, please. 35 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,400 So, we need to speak to the letting agency, 36 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,520 get a list of everyone who's lived here over the last ten years. Boss. 37 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,160 And Anthony Hume... 38 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,320 what have we not yet done to place him 39 00:01:58,360 --> 00:01:59,880 at the scene of Precious's murder? 40 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:02,840 If he was there. He was there. 41 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,920 All suggestions gratefully received. 42 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:06,200 I'll message the team. 43 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:17,720 Anthony Hume? 44 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:18,880 Yes? 45 00:02:18,920 --> 00:02:21,080 So... 46 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:25,360 Wojski takes 2K out of his savings 47 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,320 on the 27th, in cash, 48 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,440 puts them right back in on the 28th. 49 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,240 So, what did he do to get his laptop back, 50 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:33,800 without handing any money over? 51 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,640 Exactly. 52 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:13,880 We have nothing to say to you. 53 00:03:13,920 --> 00:03:17,640 So whichever tawdry rag your working for, 54 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,800 you're wasting your time. 55 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,920 I'm his daughter. 56 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,440 What kind of messed up power game is this, Steve? 57 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,240 It's no power game. I just want to talk. 58 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,160 So we do it on the phone. You don't just turn up here. 59 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,160 You left this house, remember? I'm sorry. 60 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,560 And FYI, any phone call's going to be relatively brief, 61 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,960 on account of the fact you screwed my sister. 62 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,320 Except I didn't. What? 63 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,120 I did kiss her, once. 64 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,160 Which itself is unforgivable, I know, but... 65 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,720 ..we never slept together. It was more of an emotional thing. 66 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:02,640 So, my sister is telling me a lie that makes her look worse? 67 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,480 Your sister has a lot of issues. I think we know this. 68 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:12,560 Look, Jess, I messed up, massively, and I'm incredibly sorry for that. 69 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:17,440 But I felt that you'd abandoned me, and I wanted you to hurt like I did, 70 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,400 which is why I said I wanted to leave. 71 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,520 But now I've calmed down a bit, and... 72 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,160 ..I know I don't. 73 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,040 I don't think I believe a word you just said. 74 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,320 Jess, please, I swear it's the truth. 75 00:04:33,840 --> 00:04:36,600 Jess! Can we at least talk tonight? 76 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:49,480 I found out on my 18th birthday and contacted him when I was 23. 77 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,520 I'm now 59. 78 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,880 And what sort of a relationship have you had with him in that time? 79 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,480 In the multiple decades he's lied to you, you mean? 80 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,960 Yes. Almost entirely financial. 81 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,680 He's given you money? Reparation. 82 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:10,160 Yes. So can I ask what it is you came here for? 83 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,560 Well, obviously to see him. 84 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,760 There were things that I wanted to say 85 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,840 before it became impossible. 86 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,800 But I can see that I am already too late, 87 00:05:21,840 --> 00:05:24,160 so maybe you can pass on a message. 88 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,280 Can you tell him, please... 89 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,720 ..that I loathe him? 90 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,240 That I have always loathed him. 91 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,480 And I always will. Right. 92 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:45,640 But for all your loathing, you still obviously took his money. 93 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,560 And there we are. 94 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:53,240 You screwed multiple generations of my family over, 95 00:05:53,280 --> 00:05:56,320 and then think it's OK because I got some money? 96 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,080 I didn't screw any one over. 97 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,440 Maybe not... as directly as him. 98 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,760 But your privilege, your comfort, your happiness, 99 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,360 this house, in fact, 100 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:12,000 were all built on the bones of people like me. 101 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,560 Weren't they? I'd like you to leave now, please. 102 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,960 You knew what he did, didn't you? 103 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:21,480 You knew the policies that he espoused for decades. 104 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,720 You knew the millions of lives that it ruined. 105 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,000 Mine included. 106 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,240 And you did nothing. 107 00:06:31,280 --> 00:06:33,400 You just looked the other way. 108 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,480 So I didn't really come to speak to you. 109 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,000 But now I'm here... 110 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,600 fuck you, too. 111 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,400 I loathe the pair of you. 112 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,160 WHIRRING 113 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,520 So, what I really need is a list of all of the ground-floor tenants 114 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,040 from the past ten years. 115 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:22,880 Now, I realise that might take a while, 116 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:24,320 so can you start by telling me 117 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,640 who the tenant was in July 2016, please? 118 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,920 And that was from when to when? 119 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,360 OK. A list of other tenants would be very useful. 120 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:33,760 You've been very helpful. 121 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,720 Thank you very much. Yes! Thank you, God. 122 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:45,400 So, the tenant of the garden flat from May 2015 to August 2016 123 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:46,760 was Ebele Falade. 124 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,640 MAN ON RADIO: 'The body, discovered buried in the garden 125 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:53,920 'of a flat in Greenford, 126 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,080 'is believed to be connected to the recent discovery of remains 127 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:58,960 'found in a house in Hammersmith.' 128 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,520 FADING: 'Police investigators on the scene...' 129 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,800 Local authorities were dealing with huge cuts, 130 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,920 and we were all basically doing the jobs of two people. 131 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,240 So you were perma exhausted. 132 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,120 Multiple 12-hour days, 133 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:20,160 and from dealing, day in, day out, with people who had been... 134 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:21,520 abandoned. 135 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:27,080 People who were angry and in constant crisis. 136 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:30,560 People who blamed you. 137 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:35,160 And over a sustained period, that really began to take its toll. 138 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,680 I was living on my own at this point, 139 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:42,040 and I'd started to feel very isolated, very low. 140 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,480 And I-I just started to fixate on some... 141 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,160 ..on some really bad thoughts. 142 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,680 About women and... 143 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,600 taking certain sorts of photos... 144 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:57,760 of them... 145 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:00,480 ..in public. 146 00:09:01,560 --> 00:09:07,480 And then in late 2015, I was attacked on the street. 147 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:11,920 And then in February 2016, outside my synagogue. 148 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:16,240 And it was about a week after the second attack 149 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,280 that I took my first photo. 150 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,520 On the tube. You think the two are connected? 151 00:09:22,560 --> 00:09:24,760 No. 152 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,080 Well, maybe. I don't know. 153 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,960 I'm certainly not trying to offer it up as an excuse. 154 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:35,560 I'm just saying, you grow up being made to feel different. 155 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,640 When we first moved to UK, all through school 156 00:09:38,680 --> 00:09:44,000 then actually being physically attacked for being different. 157 00:09:46,680 --> 00:09:48,240 And it can affect you. 158 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:51,440 Make you do bad shit. 159 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,640 And these photos, they... 160 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,040 ..made you feel, what, better or...? 161 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:59,640 In the moment, maybe, but... 162 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,680 ..in the long term, they made me feel much worse. 163 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,080 But you carried on taking them, Karol. 164 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,080 Eventually even taking them at work. 165 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,240 Yeah. Why? 166 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,560 Why do any of us do things we know are wrong? 167 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:20,320 Because that momentary relief is better than nothing. 168 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:45,320 I'd like, if I may, to take you back to the 26th of June 2016. 169 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:50,080 Er, which was the day that you visited Precious Falade 170 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:51,640 in a house in Hammersmith. 171 00:10:51,680 --> 00:10:53,880 And it was also the last time you ever saw her, 172 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,680 according to your statement when we spoke in Paris. Yeah. 173 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:01,720 And was this also the day that you accidentally left your laptop there? 174 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:05,800 You should assume we know everything, Karol. 175 00:11:08,680 --> 00:11:11,000 Yeah. And on that laptop, 176 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,280 she found a number of your upskirting photos 177 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:14,840 and tried to blackmail you for them. 178 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,680 Yeah. For £2,000? 179 00:11:20,680 --> 00:11:22,280 Yeah. 180 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,040 Showing the suspect exhibit KW01, 181 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,640 a bank statement belonging to him. 182 00:11:28,680 --> 00:11:31,480 And if you have a look at the highlighted entries there, Karol, 183 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,280 you can see that you did in fact 184 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,960 withdraw 2,000, in cash, on the 27th. 185 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,640 But then, just below that entry, 186 00:11:39,680 --> 00:11:43,120 you deposited the exact same amount again in cash 187 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,840 into the same account on the 28th. 188 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,200 Which suggests to me that you never paid her the money. 189 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:53,480 I didn't. 190 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,640 So, could you tell us, then, please, 191 00:11:55,680 --> 00:11:58,160 how you did manage to get your laptop back? 192 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,120 Can I, erm... drop these off for a patient, please? 193 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,320 What ward? Erm... 194 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,640 I dunno, but her name's Sophie Coulson. 195 00:12:26,680 --> 00:12:27,960 She hit her head and... 196 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:31,560 Just tell her I'm sorry, yeah? 197 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,080 The first thing I noticed as I walked up the drive way 198 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,000 was that there was a car parked up outside. 199 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,640 OK, and this was the day after you say you last saw her? 200 00:12:42,680 --> 00:12:45,080 Yeah. So, you went in? 201 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,480 Yeah. And what happened then? 202 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,560 Well, I couldn't see anyone, so I called out her name. 203 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,920 No-one answered, so I walked straight ahead 204 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,280 into the sitting room, where we'd met the day before. 205 00:12:58,560 --> 00:13:01,600 The floor was wet. 206 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:03,160 Like, all over. 207 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,720 Like someone had just mopped it. But no Precious. 208 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,480 And then in the corner, I saw my laptop on the table. 209 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,240 This was my property, you know? 210 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,920 So I walked over and took it and then left. 211 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,680 It was as I was heading for the front door that I saw him. 212 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,000 An old man at the end of the corridor, 213 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:23,880 with a mop and bucket. 214 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:25,440 Did you speak to him? 215 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,760 I called out, "Hello," and he turned, clearly surprised. 216 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,800 I introduced myself and told him that I'd come to see Precious. 217 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,240 He quickly said that she was out 218 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,080 and that he'd tell her that I'd come over. Anything else? 219 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,360 He'd asked if I'd been into the main room to look for her. 220 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,080 I said no and then left. 221 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:44,360 Could you describe him? 222 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,200 Late 60s, early 70s. 223 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,480 Well-spoken. OK. 224 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:53,760 Erm... So, the day after this, you resigned. 225 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:59,040 And then three weeks later, you left the country for good. 226 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,840 I assumed that she'd have downloaded the images elsewhere 227 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,440 and would continue to extort me. 228 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,720 I felt my life in England was over. 229 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:08,600 Listen... 230 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,520 ..you'd be hard-pressed to find a man who hated himself 231 00:14:12,560 --> 00:14:14,000 more than me for what I did do. 232 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,600 All the women I abused by taking those photos. 233 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,960 I hope I've become a better person, 234 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,880 but I'm also fully aware that I may well be kidding myself 235 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,000 that I only did it because I was depressed or lonely. 236 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,800 I mean, maybe I actually did it because I'm a fucked-up human being. 237 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,160 I genuinely don't know the answer to that. 238 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,080 But one thing I am sure of... 239 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,240 I never saw Precious Falade after the 26th, 240 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:43,920 and I never hurt her. 241 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,000 DNA tests confirm that Jay Royce 242 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,720 is indeed the child of Precious Falade and Eric Royce, 243 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,560 and the body in the garden 244 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,600 is the child of Precious Falade and David Bell. 245 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,800 Joseph Bell. Mm-hm. 246 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,640 Ebele never mentioned she had a second grandchild. 247 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,080 Do we think it's possible she didn't know? 248 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,760 I think it's perfectly possible. The boy was invisible. 249 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,720 Off the radar of social services, the education system. 250 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,440 The real question is, what does he know? 251 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,200 Indeed. OK. 252 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,040 Murray, what have you got for us? 253 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,080 Forensics have confirmed that a bullet 254 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,200 found in the wall at Waterman Road 255 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,960 was fired from the same gun as the one that killed Precious. 256 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,880 Yeah. Not a surprise. Excellent. 257 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:32,840 Anything else? Yeah. 258 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,880 You wanted to try and place Hume at the murder scene on the 26th. 259 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,920 I mean, my name was on the contract, but he paid the actual rent, 260 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:41,600 so he absolutely knew where the flat was. 261 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:42,880 He probably had keys. Who did? 262 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:44,360 And the day after it all happened, 263 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,080 he paid for me to go away for a few days. 264 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,840 He sent me away to bloody Cornwall, Dave! Calm down, Bele. Who did? 265 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,440 My father! He put Joe there. 266 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,120 I thought you never knew your father. 267 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,280 Bele? 268 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:57,680 Bele?! 269 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,360 Did you kill your granddaughter, Mr Hume? 270 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,760 I don't have a granddaughter. I have three grandsons. 271 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,920 I'm talking about Precious Falade. 272 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,160 What evidence do you have that Precious Falade 273 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:08,800 is Mr Hume's granddaughter? 274 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,520 We can do DNA checks in time, but, for now, 275 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,560 I think his daughter Ebele Falade will confirm this. 276 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,400 And if he denies Ebele is his daughter, 277 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,360 well, then I'd simply ask why he's been paying her money 278 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,120 via standing order for the past 30-something years. 279 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:23,400 No, I didn't kill her. 280 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,160 Did you kill your great-grandson, Joseph Bell? 281 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:29,440 No, of course not. 282 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,880 Were you with either of them the night they died? 283 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:33,120 No. 284 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:38,320 Or at or near 64 Waterman Road, on the 26th and 27th of June, 2016? 285 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,560 No. And when was the last time you saw either of them? 286 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,280 I've never even met either of them. 287 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,600 I'm showing the suspect exhibit TH01 - 288 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:52,240 a copy of a credit card statement belonging to Mr Hume. 289 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:56,800 Mr Hume, could you read out the fifth credit down, please? 290 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:02,600 It's a payment to an Esso filling station for £60. 291 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,720 26th of June, 2016. 292 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:10,720 Thank you. And the address of the petrol station? 293 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,080 Inverdale Road. Postcode? 294 00:17:13,120 --> 00:17:14,640 W67 CX. 295 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,320 Which is, in case you don't know, Hammersmith, 296 00:17:17,360 --> 00:17:21,160 and Inverdale Road is the road at the bottom of Waterman Road. 297 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:25,160 And, er, do you see a time for the payment there? 298 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:26,600 19:23. 299 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:30,600 So just before half seven, on the night that Precious died, 300 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,280 we now have you no more than 100 yards 301 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:35,760 from the house in which she died. 302 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,480 Is there anything you'd like to add? No comment. 303 00:17:40,360 --> 00:17:44,640 So, erm, the day after this, the 27th of June, 304 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:48,400 we also have a witness who says they saw you 305 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,560 with a bucket and mop 306 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:54,560 near a room shown by forensics to have been spattered with blood, 307 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,680 which we have since identified as Precious Falade's. 308 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,200 What witness? 309 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,160 Her social worker. 310 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,320 You refused consent for a video ID earlier, 311 00:18:04,360 --> 00:18:06,400 so we took a covert ID in custody, 312 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,360 and our witness identified you very easily, Mr Hume. 313 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:11,840 What's your response to that? 314 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,200 LAWYER CLEARS THROAT 315 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:20,240 WHISPERS: Lord Hume, I think the best course is to... 316 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,040 No comment. Really?! 317 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,160 Because maybe there's a perfectly innocent explanation as to why, 318 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,360 the day after a murder was committed in that room, 319 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,480 you were seen in that house, 320 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,280 clearly having just mopped blood off the floor. 321 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,800 And if there is, then this is your chance now 322 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,520 to tell us your side of the story. 323 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:47,760 Or Corfu. 324 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,360 Mike and Liz went there last year and absolutely loved it. 325 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,800 Said it was the prettiest village. Water's crystal clear. 326 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:55,560 They said they'd go back in a heartbeat. 327 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,040 Hello. You all right, love? 328 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,640 There's something I need to tell you about. 329 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,200 I'm gonna go and stay with Jordan for a bit. 330 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,760 He's found a new squat with hot water. 331 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,200 You need to sort your life out, J, man. 332 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,840 I only found out about Bele... 333 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,840 ..when she was in her early 20s. 334 00:19:32,120 --> 00:19:33,520 The result of a very... 335 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:39,000 ..brief relationship I'd had with her mother in 1963. 336 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,120 The mother died when Bele was young. 337 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,200 And so as soon as I found out I had a daughter, 338 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,360 I obviously offered her financial support, 339 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,400 which she accepted. 340 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,760 There was little further contact, which was her choice. 341 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:58,520 I knew that she had had a daughter herself in the... 342 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,160 in the mid-'80s, 343 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:04,040 but I had no contact with her until late 2015 344 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,680 when she called me out of the blue... 345 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,440 ..and also wanted money. 346 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,440 Which, again, willingly, I-I gave her. 347 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,880 A few weeks before she... 348 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:20,960 ..she died... 349 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:25,960 I got a call from Bele telling me that Precious was homeless. 350 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,160 Waterman Road was empty at that time 351 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,040 and, of course, I wanted to help, so... 352 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:32,280 I met her... 353 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,640 ..to give her some keys and let her in, and... 354 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,640 The meeting was brief but cordial. 355 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,840 She'd obviously lost her way in life, 356 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,360 and I felt very sorry for her. 357 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,080 HE SIGHS 358 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,520 The night she died... 359 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:58,120 ..a man identifying himself as Precious's son 360 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,120 called me from Waterman Road. 361 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:03,880 He, er... 362 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:11,200 He was threatening all sorts of things, and again, wanted money. 363 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,520 I rang Bele, and... 364 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,200 ..she said she'd drive there immediately. 365 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:19,800 But, erm... 366 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:24,920 HE SIGHS 367 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,880 Well, I-I also decided to drive there myself. 368 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,400 I got there first. 369 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,760 To find that Joseph, Precious's son... 370 00:21:40,120 --> 00:21:41,600 ..was in a very bad way. 371 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,160 He seemed to be coming down off something 372 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:45,920 and was clearly very disturbed, 373 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,480 threatening violence to me and his mother. 374 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:55,000 Unless I took him to a cash machine and got out thousands of pounds. 375 00:21:56,360 --> 00:21:57,800 And then... 376 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,040 ..quite without warning, he... 377 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,320 ..he pulled out a gun. 378 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,080 Which he proceeded to point at me. 379 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,320 Precious was horrified, and... and before I could stop her, 380 00:22:13,360 --> 00:22:15,240 she lunged for it, and it... 381 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:21,720 It went off. 382 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:24,880 Hitting him in the head. 383 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:28,320 He fell. 384 00:22:28,360 --> 00:22:31,120 I went to help him, and, er... 385 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,320 ..as I was trying to get him into the recovery position... 386 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,440 ..there was another shot. 387 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:44,560 And I looked around, and Precious had turned the gun on to herself. 388 00:22:46,360 --> 00:22:48,120 Straight into her chest. 389 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,680 She died pretty instantly. 390 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,240 Joseph's heart stopped within seconds. 391 00:22:58,360 --> 00:23:00,480 I never even had a chance to call for help. 392 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,400 And into this... 393 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,720 nightmare walked Bele. 394 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,360 I explained to her what had happened. I'm... 395 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,120 I'm not sure she entirely believed me, 396 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:18,920 even though it was true. 397 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,600 Obviously, we were both in pieces. 398 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,600 And that was how I... 399 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,560 HE EXHALES 400 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,800 ..I ended up saying that I would... 401 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,640 ..dispose of Joseph's body. 402 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:45,520 And how I ended up leaving Bele with her daughter. 403 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,480 So, you buried Joseph Bell 404 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,960 in the garden of your daughter's flat in Greenford? 405 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,560 Yes. And why there specifically? 406 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,520 I had keys. 407 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,440 It was private. Not for deflection? 408 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,480 To incriminate her if anything ever went wrong? 409 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:09,800 No. 410 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:15,560 So, why did you anonymously call the front desk of this station 411 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,520 last night and tell us where his body was? 412 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,080 I panicked. 413 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,760 And did you know that Bele had hidden Precious in the fireplace? 414 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,680 No. 415 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,400 She told me she'd buried her in woods somewhere. 416 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,640 So this... 417 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,440 this is the truth now? 418 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:44,920 Yes. 419 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,720 Because you've lied to us repeatedly, Lord Hume. 420 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,320 Both times we've questioned you. 421 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,000 This is the truth. 422 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,000 I swear. 423 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,840 We need Ebele Falade. 424 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,800 CHILDREN LAUGHING UPSTAIRS 425 00:25:42,120 --> 00:25:45,120 STEVE MIMICKING ROBOT: Come on. Firstly, we need to clean our teeth. 426 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,080 We need to do our stories. Time is running out. 427 00:25:48,120 --> 00:25:50,040 CHILD SQUEALS 428 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,840 Wait. Five, four, three... 429 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:57,240 His behaviour has been disgraceful, which he realises. 430 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,760 He loves you, Jess. 431 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,320 And needs you. 432 00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:03,120 And the kids need him. 433 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:05,840 I don't believe him, Mum. 434 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:11,520 No, I'm sure you don't, and it's shite, but... 435 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:12,760 nothing's perfect. 436 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,520 Not even you. Hm! 437 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,720 Call you later. OK. 438 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,920 CHATTER CONTINUES UPSTAIRS 439 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,840 CHILD SQUEALS, LAUGHTER 440 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:03,000 So, my mum, Yetunde, was a second-generation Nigerian. 441 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,360 Her parents came over here after the war, 442 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,000 and she was born in 1946. 443 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:14,680 And in August 1963, age 17, 444 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,800 she got a job as a cleaner in the city stockbroker's 445 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,280 where her parents already worked in the canteen. 446 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:27,800 The son of one of the directors was working there in the months 447 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,120 between Wallingham and Cambridge, 448 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,320 and one night, after drinking with work friends, 449 00:27:35,360 --> 00:27:38,600 he went back to the office late to pick up some papers 450 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,720 and encountered my mum, who was working nights. 451 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:48,280 And after pressuring her to have a few drinks with him... 452 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,200 ..raped her. 453 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:58,280 She went back home that night and, of course, told her parents. 454 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,280 Who blamed her. 455 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:05,120 And she did consider going to the police, but, er... 456 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,400 in the end, didn't because... 457 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,720 he was the rich, white, son of the boss. 458 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,360 And... she wasn't. 459 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,720 A few weeks later, she realised that she was pregnant 460 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:24,680 and wrote to the son, who was now at university. 461 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,520 And... he didn't reply, 462 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,920 so she wrote to his father - 463 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,160 Sir Henry Hume... 464 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,640 ..who asked her to come into his office 465 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,920 and told her that if she pursued this any further, 466 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,840 he'd sack her and her parents. 467 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,520 Morgan Lavelle had originally made their money 468 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,360 from the sugar trade, 469 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,160 so she really shouldn't have been so surprised. 470 00:28:55,240 --> 00:29:01,480 And on the 3rd of March, 1964, I was born. 471 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,960 Three weeks later, she wrote me a letter 472 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:10,440 which, erm, was meant to be given to me on my 18th birthday. 473 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,960 And deposited it with a local solicitor... 474 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:15,800 ..and... 475 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,120 ..jumped in the Thames. 476 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,680 I was raised by my grandparents, who... 477 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:31,200 saw me as a child of evil 478 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:36,600 and filled me with shame and self-hatred. 479 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:43,160 And after I read that, I realised why. 480 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:48,560 So if he told you that he was decent about it 481 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:54,640 when I finally approached him, then, again, he lied. 482 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,480 He was much more interested in protecting his reputation 483 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:04,400 and made a number of threats of violence against me. 484 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:09,440 I ignored them, and I got his DNA from a glass 485 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,640 at a lecture that he did, 486 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:16,120 and had a test done and told him that I would go to 487 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:20,000 the News Of The World with the result. 488 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,040 That was 1988. Yeah. 489 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,680 After that, he was a pussy cat. 490 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:33,640 So nothing about him is what it seems. 491 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,400 And whatever he told you about that night, 492 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:45,560 whatever he told me, won't be what actually happened. 493 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,920 So, why don't you tell us what you witnessed there? 494 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,680 He called me and said that... 495 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,840 Joseph had called him, threatening him. 496 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,160 Did Joseph know that this was his great grandfather? 497 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:23,240 I had told Precious about Hume a few months before. 498 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,400 I guess she had then told Joseph. 499 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,360 And why hadn't you told her about him before then? 500 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:35,240 Because I knew that she would mess up the financial arrangement. 501 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,280 Which I needed. 502 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,000 So? So, erm... 503 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:48,200 After my father called me, we both headed to Waterman Road. 504 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,040 And when I arrived, I walked in... 505 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,680 ..to a vision from hell. 506 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:04,080 My daughter was already dead, and my grandson was dying. 507 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:09,880 And my father told me that my daughter had shot her son... 508 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,920 accidentally, and then shot herself. 509 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:17,560 Did he tell you how that happened? 510 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,640 He said that Joseph had taken drugs, 511 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,760 and that there'd been some sort of row about money, 512 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,840 and that he'd pointed a gun at Hume, 513 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,240 and that Precious had tried to get it off him, 514 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,400 and it had gone off, hitting Joe. 515 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,880 And she'd then turned it on herself. 516 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,760 OK. And did you ever question this version of events? 517 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,720 Oh... No, not in the moment, no. 518 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,800 You know, I was in shock, obviously. 519 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,720 And also, I'd only met Joseph three or four times, 520 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,560 and I knew that he'd already been in 521 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:57,120 a young offenders institute for assault using a gun. 522 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:01,560 And in that moment, in the panic and horror, 523 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,800 being told that by Lord Anthony Hume, 524 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:09,200 I'm embarrassed to say that I... I... I believed him. 525 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,120 Do you believe it now? No. No. 526 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,800 So, what do you think happened? 527 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:19,720 I don't know. 528 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:26,080 I just know that he is an evil, lying bastard, 529 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,920 and he could have done absolutely anything. 530 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,800 He... Maybe he shot them both. 531 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,760 I don't know. 532 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,440 And the disposal of the bodies? 533 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,720 He told me that if we called the police... 534 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,080 ..they might not believe it was an accident, 535 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,280 because of... MY criminal record. 536 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,760 He-He wanted to take them both... 537 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,280 QUIETLY: ..but I said I wanted to look after Precious. 538 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,280 And I spent the... 539 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,640 ..whole night with her, just holding her, 540 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,720 and rocking her, and singing to her. 541 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,960 Saying sorry to her. 542 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,240 And then... 543 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,600 And then it was morning. 544 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:25,960 And... 545 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,520 ..I walked out to the car, 546 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,520 and there were workmen in the street. 547 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,840 I have regretted what I did. 548 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,320 Every single day since. 549 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,760 Because it was a dreadful way to treat my daughter. 550 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,080 But... 551 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,440 ..that was me. 552 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:06,680 A few weeks later, I took Precious's keys to get back in 553 00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:11,760 and had some friend put a plasterboard. 554 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,200 OK, erm... CLEARS HER THROAT 555 00:35:20,240 --> 00:35:22,560 Just... Just one last question. 556 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:27,080 Does the name Jay Royce mean anything to you? 557 00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:32,680 Who's Jay Royce? 558 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,280 Jay? What d'you want? 559 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,600 Can we talk about that night, please? 560 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,680 Why? Nothing ever changes. 561 00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:08,840 People like me don't win against people like him. 562 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,320 I'm so sorry that was yours and Joseph's experience. 563 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,800 But we're here to tell you... 564 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,400 that if you trust us, we will change that. 565 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,520 We will listen to you, and we will act on what you tell us. 566 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,280 But if you stay silent, then all I can say is, yeah... 567 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,080 ..he probably will win again. 568 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,120 I was one floor up. 569 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,200 My mum didn't want me to meet my nan or him, so... 570 00:36:57,240 --> 00:36:58,880 I was playing on my Game Boy. 571 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,280 I saw Hume arrive in his car out of a bedroom window. 572 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,000 So... he arrived first? 573 00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:11,880 Good ten minutes before my nan. 574 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,320 I weren't interested in meeting either of them, 575 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,200 so I was just waiting for them to leave. 576 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,600 Except then I started to hear shouting. 577 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,240 Joe mainly, but Mum as well. 578 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,800 Both screaming at Hume, really. 579 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,240 So I walked out onto the landing. 580 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,480 My brother was obviously off his face, 581 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,840 pointing and jabbing at Hume. 582 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,640 Telling him he was a dirty bastard, 583 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,560 and that he should fuck him up proper 584 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,960 for what he had done to our family... 585 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,920 to our nan's mum. 586 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,280 And he's screaming right in front of him, 587 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,000 and all this spit's getting in Hume's face. 588 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,000 Then suddenly, Hume's got his hand round Joe's neck, 589 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,080 and he slammed him up against a wall. 590 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,240 Said he could have him disappeared in an instant if he wanted. 591 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,440 Cos he was that fucking powerful. 592 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,680 And he's squeezing Joe's neck. 593 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:13,800 And squeezing and squeezing, 594 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,800 and I'm thinking he's gonna choke him. 595 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,400 He's gonna kill him. 596 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,760 Which is when Joe pulls out this gun from the back of his trousers. 597 00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:30,360 And Hume goes very fucking quiet very quick. 598 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,960 Starts to back away with his hands up. 599 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,240 My mum's shitting herself 600 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,440 and telling Joe to put it down, but he won't. 601 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,640 And he's still shouting back at both of them. 602 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,360 And then my mum just makes a grab for it, 603 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,600 and it all goes quiet as she wrestles with him. 604 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,080 Then there's a bang. 605 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:56,920 And she goes down. 606 00:38:58,240 --> 00:39:01,720 And Joe's in shock, man, and not really taking it all in. 607 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,080 My mum's eyes are rolling up into her fucking head. 608 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,960 And Hume's asking for the gun. 609 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,560 Joe just gives it to him. 610 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,320 Meek as a lamb now. 611 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,200 Then Joe kneels by Mum to take her hand... 612 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,680 ..which is when Hume shoots him. 613 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,280 In the back of the head. 614 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,760 And there was obviously nothing I could do. 615 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,640 You know, I was 14. 616 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,080 I was also terrified he'd hear me and he'd kill me. 617 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,400 So I sort of just... 618 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,080 I sort of just froze. 619 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,520 And then I heard my nan's car arriving, 620 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,280 and she walked in and just started wailing. 621 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,480 So I used the noise to go upstairs. 622 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,480 To the very top floor and hide in a cupboard under the eaves. 623 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,720 I stayed there for two whole days. 624 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:06,800 When I finally came down... 625 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,480 the bodies had gone. 626 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,400 Hume had gone. 627 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,640 The blood had gone. 628 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,040 Some of my mum's things were still there, like... 629 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,760 Like, her laptop was... was in the drawer, 630 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,320 and, erm... a few of her clothes, which I took. 631 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:28,840 And then I just ran. 632 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,000 We wonder how kids like him turn out like they do. 633 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,400 Right, let's see what Hume has to say now. 634 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,920 The lies that we tell ourselves. 635 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,200 That that wasn't rape. 636 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,840 That she liked me. 637 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,400 That I was a good man, who'd led a good life, 638 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,520 who'd leave good behind. 639 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,440 Best part of my life... 640 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:15,760 I truly believed that. 641 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,040 Then in one instant... 642 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:22,160 one look... 643 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,120 ..it all fell away. 644 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,320 I saw myself honestly. 645 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,200 I couldn't bear it. 646 00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:33,800 To see who I really was. 647 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,320 The awful truth. 648 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,120 So I... 649 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,760 I snuffed it out. 650 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,760 So you shot Joseph Bell? 651 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,280 Yes. I did. 652 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:15,320 And I have tried so hard for the last six years 653 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,280 to make some amends. 654 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,440 But, of course, it was never even close to being enough. 655 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,320 For that... 656 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:30,960 ..for what I did... 657 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,080 ..I am so, so... 658 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,200 ..so sorry. 659 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:45,600 SLOW CLAPPING 660 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,080 I mean, I wouldn't give up the day job, 661 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,560 but, er, there's definitely something there. 662 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,600 You weren't trying to make amends, Mr Hume. 663 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,640 You just saw the catastrophic effect of your life's work 664 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,080 and realised that that's how you'd be remembered. 665 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,080 You were just trying to improve your Wiki page. 666 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,560 Yeah. We see you. 667 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,520 Well, consider this, Lord Anthony Hume, 668 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,440 you will only ever be remembered as a rapist 669 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,680 who murdered his own great-grandson. 670 00:43:20,720 --> 00:43:22,640 That's your fucking legacy, fella. 671 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,760 I hope they throw away the key. 672 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,640 DOOR OPENS, CLOSES 673 00:43:33,240 --> 00:43:35,360 We'll get someone to take you to your cell. 674 00:43:57,240 --> 00:43:59,720 Are you Jay? Yes. 675 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:08,960 Do you know who I am? 676 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,000 I think so. 677 00:44:13,240 --> 00:44:15,320 I'm your nan, Jay. 678 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:18,760 I'm Bele. 679 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:21,240 Hello, Nan. 680 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:31,200 I am so sorry, little one. 681 00:44:31,240 --> 00:44:34,360 I am so, so sorry. 682 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,400 I told them, Nan. 683 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,400 I told them he did it. 684 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,400 I know, sweetheart. 685 00:44:41,720 --> 00:44:43,160 They rang. 686 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,680 So now we know the truth. Except you don't. 687 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,360 Sorry? I lied. 688 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,360 Mum killed Joe. 689 00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,200 Accidentally, trying to get the gun off him. 690 00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:02,920 Then shot herself. SHE GASPS 691 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,680 But it was all his fault, what happened to our family. 692 00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:11,040 'From him raping your mum to everything that come after, 693 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,200 'it was all down to him. 694 00:45:13,240 --> 00:45:15,520 'So I just thought, "Fuck him," y'know?' 695 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,880 What's good for the goose, man, innit? 696 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,560 Just... fuck him. 697 00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:36,200 There you are. 698 00:45:36,240 --> 00:45:37,680 Sorry about earlier. 699 00:45:37,720 --> 00:45:41,160 That was, er... that was a bit unprofessional. 700 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:42,440 No apology needed. 701 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,520 You took the words right out of my mouth. 702 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:47,920 CPS call yet? 703 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,800 Said we can charge him with the murder and the rape. 704 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,520 Nice! 705 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,280 Wasn't expecting both. 706 00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:00,600 That's a 57-year-old crime, DCI James. 707 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,080 A Bishop Street record. SHE CHUCKLES 708 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:04,960 Well, for now. 709 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,240 And it's Jessie, please. 710 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,360 Jessie James. SHE CHUCKLES 711 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:18,040 So, you ever held up a stagecoach? Held up a bar! 712 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,800 Well, now you're talking. I'll get my horse. 713 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,920 HE LAUGHS 714 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,920 Subtitles by accessibility@itv.com