1 00:01:47,038 --> 00:01:50,830 When Louise was born, she became my whole world. 2 00:01:52,397 --> 00:01:54,588 I loved raising that little girl. 3 00:01:55,492 --> 00:01:58,902 She was so spirited, you know? 4 00:01:58,902 --> 00:02:01,790 Couldn't wait to grow up. 5 00:02:04,469 --> 00:02:06,661 When all her friends started walking home, 6 00:02:06,661 --> 00:02:08,679 I thought, "Come on, Brian. 7 00:02:08,679 --> 00:02:10,036 Let her go a bit." 8 00:02:13,410 --> 00:02:16,472 I thought I taught her how to be safe. 9 00:02:18,629 --> 00:02:22,665 But you can't really imagine a man like Dennis Creed. 10 00:02:24,161 --> 00:02:27,432 But I know all about him now. 11 00:02:27,432 --> 00:02:29,589 I know he killed my Lou, 12 00:02:30,180 --> 00:02:32,163 and I got proof he killed Margot Bamborough. 13 00:02:32,929 --> 00:02:35,573 There's a good chance he killed Kara Wolfson as well. 14 00:02:35,956 --> 00:02:38,426 We believe Kara Wolfson 15 00:02:38,426 --> 00:02:39,991 was probably killed by a gangster. 16 00:02:39,991 --> 00:02:41,035 Keep that to yourself. 17 00:02:41,035 --> 00:02:43,227 We're hoping the police will investigate. 18 00:02:45,210 --> 00:02:47,193 Poor old Terry. 19 00:02:47,193 --> 00:02:48,411 He went to his grave 20 00:02:48,411 --> 00:02:50,673 not knowing where his sister was. 21 00:02:51,472 --> 00:02:53,281 That's what I'm afraid of. 22 00:02:53,281 --> 00:02:55,126 Once I'm gone, 23 00:02:55,473 --> 00:02:57,526 who's gonna find my girl? 24 00:02:58,222 --> 00:03:00,379 Normal people don't understand 25 00:03:00,936 --> 00:03:02,989 what it means to get a body back. 26 00:03:05,215 --> 00:03:07,860 I'm sorry. That's very hard. 27 00:03:08,416 --> 00:03:10,504 Well, it's frustrating 28 00:03:10,504 --> 00:03:13,878 because I could tell the police a dozen places they should dig. 29 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,462 But it's a lot of money. 30 00:03:17,810 --> 00:03:20,663 Creed's in Broadmoor, so... 31 00:03:20,663 --> 00:03:21,985 what's the value to them, right? 32 00:03:23,342 --> 00:03:25,291 Could you show us what you've got 33 00:03:25,291 --> 00:03:26,821 in terms of Margot? 34 00:03:26,821 --> 00:03:28,422 Yeah. 35 00:03:30,195 --> 00:03:32,735 You can't use this 36 00:03:32,735 --> 00:03:35,310 till you're sure you've got a case. 37 00:03:35,310 --> 00:03:37,050 That's 'cause how I got hold of it. 38 00:03:38,894 --> 00:03:41,642 - I'd get my mate into trouble. - Thank you. 39 00:03:41,642 --> 00:03:44,113 After Creed was banged up in Wakefield, 40 00:03:44,461 --> 00:03:46,409 I used to go up there on the weekends. 41 00:03:47,452 --> 00:03:50,097 I got friendly with the guards. 42 00:03:50,097 --> 00:03:51,732 You know, drinking down the local. 43 00:03:52,671 --> 00:03:55,141 They hated Creed, 44 00:03:55,141 --> 00:03:56,916 but one of them 45 00:03:56,916 --> 00:04:00,395 nicked this out of his cell and gave it to me. 46 00:04:01,439 --> 00:04:03,491 "She tells me I need treatment. 47 00:04:03,491 --> 00:04:06,484 Her strategy is laughably transparent. 48 00:04:06,484 --> 00:04:09,580 I have her chained. I'm whipping her. 49 00:04:09,580 --> 00:04:10,867 But she still believes 50 00:04:10,867 --> 00:04:13,129 her medical training makes her superior. 51 00:04:13,686 --> 00:04:16,469 Her true education has only just begun." 52 00:04:16,469 --> 00:04:18,765 - Does he name Margot? - No, no, no, no. 53 00:04:19,079 --> 00:04:21,932 But he was writing his memoirs. 54 00:04:23,010 --> 00:04:25,863 Has Creed ever spoken about Margot? 55 00:04:27,289 --> 00:04:30,072 That's not how he works. 56 00:04:30,072 --> 00:04:31,534 He never helps. 57 00:04:32,682 --> 00:04:35,396 The thing he likes is games. 58 00:04:36,161 --> 00:04:38,109 Yeah, games. 59 00:04:38,388 --> 00:04:39,814 I'll show you what I mean. 60 00:04:39,814 --> 00:04:42,076 You'll have to come up to Lou's room. 61 00:04:46,495 --> 00:04:48,965 This is where I do my studying. 62 00:04:48,965 --> 00:04:51,157 It feels like Lou's with me, you know? 63 00:04:54,218 --> 00:04:56,410 In the 1980s, 64 00:04:56,410 --> 00:04:58,602 they let me write to him, 65 00:04:58,602 --> 00:05:00,515 and that's what he wrote back. 66 00:05:02,811 --> 00:05:04,447 "Your letter reached me a week ago. 67 00:05:04,447 --> 00:05:06,569 Ordinarily I would not be permitted..." 68 00:05:06,569 --> 00:05:09,143 It's a long letter. Let me save you the trouble. 69 00:05:09,143 --> 00:05:13,144 Have a look at the first letter of each sentence. 70 00:05:14,015 --> 00:05:17,772 - Y, O, U, R... - Your. 71 00:05:18,503 --> 00:05:20,138 The whole thing spells, 72 00:05:21,112 --> 00:05:25,705 "Your daughter cried for her mummy before she died." 73 00:05:27,131 --> 00:05:29,880 Now, he never signed his letters... 74 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,628 "Ever yours, Dennis", not to anyone else. 75 00:05:33,115 --> 00:05:36,733 He did it 'cause he needed the E-D 76 00:05:36,733 --> 00:05:41,708 of "ever" and "Dennis" to finish the word "died." 77 00:05:42,300 --> 00:05:43,727 Did you show this to the police? 78 00:05:43,727 --> 00:05:46,093 No, no. He knew I wouldn't. 79 00:05:46,093 --> 00:05:47,866 'Cause then they'd stop him writing, 80 00:05:47,866 --> 00:05:49,084 and there's even less chance 81 00:05:49,084 --> 00:05:50,581 for me to get something from him. 82 00:05:50,581 --> 00:05:53,955 Now, Creed, he won't talk to me. 83 00:05:53,955 --> 00:05:56,599 I'm just something he plays with. 84 00:05:56,599 --> 00:06:00,740 But you... now, you're famous. 85 00:06:00,740 --> 00:06:03,418 He might just talk to you. 86 00:06:04,358 --> 00:06:07,246 I'm sorry for everything you've gone through, but... 87 00:06:07,246 --> 00:06:10,134 Listen, I'm still going through. 88 00:06:10,134 --> 00:06:12,117 He'd see you as a challenge. 89 00:06:12,395 --> 00:06:14,726 You're something he can boast about. 90 00:06:16,292 --> 00:06:20,327 Our client won't want us to take that kind of risk. 91 00:06:20,327 --> 00:06:23,076 She asked for a very discreet investigation. 92 00:06:23,076 --> 00:06:24,990 If Creed told the papers he's meeting us... 93 00:06:24,990 --> 00:06:27,529 I'll pay you, then. Look, I'll sell some stuff. 94 00:06:27,807 --> 00:06:29,861 Let me be the client. 95 00:06:29,861 --> 00:06:32,818 You don't, you don't understand. 96 00:06:32,818 --> 00:06:35,740 I mean, I was Lou's dad, 97 00:06:35,740 --> 00:06:37,515 and I couldn't take care of her. 98 00:06:37,515 --> 00:06:40,368 Couldn't keep her safe. 99 00:06:40,368 --> 00:06:42,560 I mean, she's in my head 100 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,377 first thing when I wake up every day, 101 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:48,961 and bringing her home's 102 00:06:48,961 --> 00:06:51,501 the last thing I can do for her. 103 00:06:51,501 --> 00:06:53,901 I need your help. That's... I'm sorry. 104 00:06:53,901 --> 00:06:55,259 I need your help. 105 00:06:57,624 --> 00:07:01,486 We will try our best to help you find your daughter. 106 00:07:03,156 --> 00:07:04,965 Send me your fees. I'll pay. 107 00:07:04,965 --> 00:07:07,888 No, that's okay. No charge. 108 00:07:23,092 --> 00:07:24,831 I'll do all the work. 109 00:07:24,831 --> 00:07:26,223 I'll do it in my spare time. 110 00:07:26,223 --> 00:07:28,102 It's not like I've got a life. 111 00:07:28,102 --> 00:07:29,771 You won't even have to hear about it. 112 00:07:31,929 --> 00:07:33,912 He tried to help us find Margot. 113 00:07:33,912 --> 00:07:35,965 That bit of writing isn't even close 114 00:07:35,965 --> 00:07:38,783 to being a confession. 115 00:07:38,783 --> 00:07:42,158 - Reads like a fantasy. - Okay. 116 00:07:42,158 --> 00:07:44,384 But if he is right about Creed, 117 00:07:44,384 --> 00:07:46,541 then Creed is our only chance of finding Margot. 118 00:07:46,541 --> 00:07:47,933 Creed doesn't help people. 119 00:07:49,151 --> 00:07:51,377 So Brian Tucker spent half a century 120 00:07:51,377 --> 00:07:53,221 working on his daughter's case. 121 00:07:54,717 --> 00:07:56,214 How long are you gonna give it? 122 00:07:58,718 --> 00:08:00,841 Until I solve it. 123 00:08:00,841 --> 00:08:03,346 I think... 124 00:08:03,346 --> 00:08:06,129 even if he dies, at least he knows 125 00:08:06,129 --> 00:08:08,043 someone's still trying to find his daughter. 126 00:08:08,043 --> 00:08:10,165 I think that's worth something, don't you? 127 00:08:11,974 --> 00:08:14,549 Yeah, I do. 128 00:08:17,019 --> 00:08:21,020 I know Kara Wolfson probably won't get justice, 129 00:08:21,020 --> 00:08:23,317 and I know we probably won't find Margot, 130 00:08:24,639 --> 00:08:26,448 but I can't let them all go. 131 00:08:26,448 --> 00:08:27,665 I just can't. 132 00:08:32,328 --> 00:08:33,476 I think I need a pint. 133 00:08:45,478 --> 00:08:47,323 What is that? 134 00:08:47,323 --> 00:08:48,992 Pat made it. 135 00:08:48,992 --> 00:08:50,767 She saw the pictures on my wall. 136 00:08:50,767 --> 00:08:52,368 Thought I might like a portable version. 137 00:08:53,864 --> 00:08:55,499 You like her, don't you? 138 00:08:58,490 --> 00:09:01,936 In terms of people we haven't spoken to who are still alive, 139 00:09:01,936 --> 00:09:03,605 at least as far as we know, 140 00:09:03,605 --> 00:09:05,345 there's Steve Douthwaite. 141 00:09:05,345 --> 00:09:07,606 Last seen working at Baxton's, Canvey Island. 142 00:09:08,407 --> 00:09:09,972 There's no trace of him. 143 00:09:09,972 --> 00:09:11,990 I've searched every record I can think of. 144 00:09:11,990 --> 00:09:13,555 I've searched for Steve Jacks as well. 145 00:09:13,555 --> 00:09:14,878 There's nothing. 146 00:09:16,687 --> 00:09:18,844 Satchwell's still ignoring our calls. 147 00:09:18,844 --> 00:09:22,428 His alibi's as solid as it gets, though. 148 00:09:22,428 --> 00:09:24,063 I think Anna would appreciate it 149 00:09:24,063 --> 00:09:26,707 if we could rule out him and Margot having an affair. 150 00:09:26,707 --> 00:09:28,621 I think we might need 151 00:09:28,621 --> 00:09:30,325 to change our approach with him. 152 00:09:31,125 --> 00:09:33,283 And Dennis Creed. 153 00:09:33,283 --> 00:09:35,614 We should at least go over the evidence again. 154 00:09:35,614 --> 00:09:36,658 There are still questions. 155 00:09:43,929 --> 00:09:46,016 I better take this. 156 00:09:46,016 --> 00:09:47,512 Hi, Lucy. 157 00:09:47,512 --> 00:09:49,530 When can you come down? 158 00:09:49,530 --> 00:09:51,165 Why? Has something happened? 159 00:09:51,165 --> 00:09:52,591 Try and come this weekend. 160 00:09:52,591 --> 00:09:55,340 And can you post any photos you found for the album? 161 00:09:56,419 --> 00:09:58,785 I don't think it can wait until Christmas. 162 00:09:58,785 --> 00:10:00,594 Can you do it today? 163 00:10:00,594 --> 00:10:03,099 I'm on it. Bye. 164 00:10:05,291 --> 00:10:06,578 I need to take care of something 165 00:10:06,578 --> 00:10:09,674 I said I'd sort out for Joan. 166 00:10:09,674 --> 00:10:11,623 I'll make a start on Creed. 167 00:11:28,582 --> 00:11:30,531 I'm Jonny Rokeby, 168 00:11:30,531 --> 00:11:32,479 and this is your invitation to cele... 169 00:11:46,048 --> 00:11:49,387 You ran a shopping clerk in the 1970s. 170 00:11:49,387 --> 00:11:52,276 - Your logo was a big sun... - A sunflower, yes. 171 00:11:52,276 --> 00:11:54,642 I just wondered, did you have a delivery van? 172 00:11:54,642 --> 00:11:57,703 Yeah, we did. We had a full-time driver. 173 00:11:57,703 --> 00:11:59,408 No phones in here, please. 174 00:12:11,133 --> 00:12:13,429 Have you a cigarette? I'm out. 175 00:12:22,336 --> 00:12:24,806 I'm having a curry delivered. 176 00:12:24,806 --> 00:12:26,858 You want a curry? 177 00:12:26,858 --> 00:12:30,164 Can't do all them chilis. Wrecks me guts. 178 00:12:30,164 --> 00:12:32,251 This place does other things as well. 179 00:12:32,982 --> 00:12:34,617 You like chicken? 180 00:12:36,704 --> 00:12:38,375 We'll get you some chicken. 181 00:12:47,525 --> 00:12:49,055 - Morning. - Morning. 182 00:12:49,055 --> 00:12:51,108 Afternoon. 183 00:12:51,108 --> 00:12:53,300 I've rung the Council. 184 00:12:53,300 --> 00:12:55,770 There were popadams on our doorstep this morning 185 00:12:56,049 --> 00:12:59,389 and what looked like chicken tikka masala. 186 00:12:59,389 --> 00:13:00,467 Disgusting. 187 00:13:02,241 --> 00:13:03,459 Robin here yet? 188 00:13:03,459 --> 00:13:06,068 She's been in, then she went out again. 189 00:13:08,852 --> 00:13:12,158 Sam, I need you to be an obnoxious asshole. 190 00:13:12,158 --> 00:13:13,931 What do you reckon? 191 00:13:13,931 --> 00:13:15,045 I'll have to dig deep. 192 00:13:16,297 --> 00:13:18,280 Paul Satchwell lives on Cause. 193 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,794 Call his gallery, local bars, supermarkets, 194 00:13:21,794 --> 00:13:23,256 anywhere that might know him. 195 00:13:23,256 --> 00:13:25,587 Friends, neighbors. 196 00:13:25,587 --> 00:13:28,648 Leave messages that are gonna annoy him. 197 00:13:28,648 --> 00:13:30,493 Make sure you leave our number for him. 198 00:13:30,493 --> 00:13:31,711 Got it. 199 00:13:34,319 --> 00:13:36,060 It's just so nice to see you again. 200 00:13:36,060 --> 00:13:37,555 Sorry to ask a favor, 201 00:13:37,555 --> 00:13:39,747 but, Anna, I know you've got friends in high places. 202 00:13:39,747 --> 00:13:41,834 Well, one or two. 203 00:13:41,834 --> 00:13:44,096 They're a ruthless bunch, really. 204 00:13:44,096 --> 00:13:46,914 My stock's not what it was, but if I can help, I will. 205 00:13:46,914 --> 00:13:47,958 What is it? 206 00:13:48,341 --> 00:13:49,559 I need to get permission 207 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,377 to talk to a prisoner in Broadmoor. 208 00:13:52,377 --> 00:13:53,664 Dennis Creed? 209 00:13:54,359 --> 00:13:55,751 Very nasty. What's it about? 210 00:13:57,143 --> 00:14:00,692 The family of one of his alleged victims is our client. 211 00:14:00,692 --> 00:14:04,518 That's probably all we should tell him. 212 00:14:04,518 --> 00:14:06,884 He's been linked to a number of missing women. 213 00:14:08,903 --> 00:14:11,233 Okay. 214 00:14:11,233 --> 00:14:12,764 I think I might know who to flatter 215 00:14:12,764 --> 00:14:14,190 or cajole at the MOJ. 216 00:14:14,190 --> 00:14:15,478 Great. 217 00:14:15,478 --> 00:14:16,696 Any Christmas plans? 218 00:14:16,696 --> 00:14:19,166 Going home, up to Masham in Yorkshire. 219 00:14:19,166 --> 00:14:21,080 How about you? 220 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,245 I stay with my sister, and... 221 00:14:24,245 --> 00:14:26,507 I don't think I can see my brother just yet. 222 00:14:27,481 --> 00:14:28,803 Not quite ready. 223 00:14:31,239 --> 00:14:32,909 If you'd like to get a drink in the new year, 224 00:14:32,909 --> 00:14:34,057 I'd love to catch up. 225 00:14:34,787 --> 00:14:37,397 I'd like that very much, Venetia. 226 00:14:48,808 --> 00:14:49,888 Hello? 227 00:14:49,888 --> 00:14:52,531 Hi, this is Beth Spencer returning your call. 228 00:14:55,037 --> 00:14:57,054 Sorry? 229 00:14:57,054 --> 00:14:59,107 I'm a social worker. 230 00:14:59,107 --> 00:15:01,055 I work with Delia and Samhain Athorn. 231 00:15:02,203 --> 00:15:04,500 Yeah. 232 00:15:04,500 --> 00:15:07,353 Samhain said you told him 233 00:15:07,353 --> 00:15:10,519 Margot Bamborough was killed by a local gangster 234 00:15:10,519 --> 00:15:13,059 called Nico Ricci. 235 00:15:13,928 --> 00:15:16,086 Can I ask you, did he bring up 236 00:15:16,086 --> 00:15:18,590 his dad killing people with magic? 237 00:15:18,590 --> 00:15:20,156 Yeah, we heard something like that. 238 00:15:20,156 --> 00:15:22,765 But that's why I did it. 239 00:15:22,765 --> 00:15:25,131 Their neighbors already think they're odd. 240 00:15:25,131 --> 00:15:27,741 We don't need people thinking they're dangerous. 241 00:15:27,741 --> 00:15:29,933 I actually got the name from Samhain. 242 00:15:29,933 --> 00:15:32,089 He's obsessed with local gangsters, 243 00:15:32,089 --> 00:15:33,377 and seeing as he struggles with names, 244 00:15:33,377 --> 00:15:35,395 I thought I'd use the one he knew. 245 00:15:35,395 --> 00:15:37,274 Just good to clear that up. 246 00:15:37,274 --> 00:15:39,048 Are you working with him long? 247 00:15:39,048 --> 00:15:41,344 Only a few years. 248 00:15:41,344 --> 00:15:42,841 Anything else? 249 00:15:43,989 --> 00:15:45,102 Thank you. 250 00:15:45,102 --> 00:15:48,059 Okay. Bye. 251 00:15:48,059 --> 00:15:49,277 You've been busy. 252 00:15:49,277 --> 00:15:51,365 Yeah, trying to clock off early 253 00:15:51,365 --> 00:15:53,869 so I can start cooking. 254 00:15:53,869 --> 00:15:56,061 Well, if you got any leftovers... 255 00:15:57,557 --> 00:16:01,314 - I'm cooking for you. - Me? 256 00:16:01,314 --> 00:16:03,959 - Max's dinner party. - Yes. 257 00:16:03,959 --> 00:16:05,281 My brother's coming too. 258 00:16:05,907 --> 00:16:09,630 Right. Really looking forward to it. 259 00:16:09,630 --> 00:16:12,483 The phone box is on the junction 260 00:16:12,483 --> 00:16:13,561 with Albemarle Way. 261 00:16:14,849 --> 00:16:16,309 - The van was seen... - Yeah. 262 00:16:16,309 --> 00:16:17,771 Near the green. 263 00:16:17,771 --> 00:16:20,276 I found out some stuff about the van. 264 00:16:20,276 --> 00:16:23,129 There was a whole foods store that used a delivery van. 265 00:16:24,347 --> 00:16:25,390 I spoke to the driver. 266 00:16:25,390 --> 00:16:27,061 He admitted he was speeding 267 00:16:27,061 --> 00:16:29,705 in the area at the time, and he didn't come forward 268 00:16:29,705 --> 00:16:31,862 because... well, basically 269 00:16:31,862 --> 00:16:33,915 he didn't want to get embroiled in a police inquiry. 270 00:16:33,915 --> 00:16:35,028 The van wasn't Creed. 271 00:16:37,811 --> 00:16:41,429 I don't think the struggle near the phone box adds up. 272 00:16:41,429 --> 00:16:44,039 Creed went for women who were drunk or vulnerable. 273 00:16:44,039 --> 00:16:47,066 He'd fool them into drinking something he'd spiked. 274 00:16:47,066 --> 00:16:51,067 Margot was sober, in a rush to meet her friend. 275 00:16:51,067 --> 00:16:52,841 I don't see why she'd have stopped to talk to him. 276 00:16:52,841 --> 00:16:55,381 Well, we know that wasn't Margot. 277 00:16:55,381 --> 00:16:56,843 The two women came forward, 278 00:16:56,843 --> 00:16:59,974 and they said it was them the witness saw. 279 00:16:59,974 --> 00:17:01,018 Yeah. 280 00:17:01,643 --> 00:17:02,791 Do we have the interviews 281 00:17:02,791 --> 00:17:04,427 on what Layborn did with that witness? 282 00:17:04,427 --> 00:17:07,071 Yes. It is just... 283 00:17:09,437 --> 00:17:12,325 Tell Mr. Satchwell that I can't post his sex toys 284 00:17:12,325 --> 00:17:15,004 until he confirms his size, okay, sweetheart? 285 00:17:15,004 --> 00:17:16,117 Thank you. 286 00:17:18,518 --> 00:17:21,405 That was his gallery he sells his painting at. 287 00:17:21,405 --> 00:17:23,562 You all right with making a living doing that? 288 00:17:23,562 --> 00:17:26,868 I'm delighted, Pat. I think I found my calling. 289 00:17:29,895 --> 00:17:32,016 Interview with witness Ruby Elliot, 290 00:17:32,016 --> 00:17:34,487 conducted on the 7th of May, 1975. 291 00:17:34,765 --> 00:17:36,992 I was looking for my son's new house. 292 00:17:36,992 --> 00:17:39,184 I'd gone around the same streets at least twice 293 00:17:39,184 --> 00:17:41,689 trying to read a map, people honking if you stop. 294 00:17:42,071 --> 00:17:44,020 Everyone's so angry in London. 295 00:17:44,020 --> 00:17:46,629 - You're not wrong about that. - Anyway, I pull over. 296 00:17:48,542 --> 00:17:52,300 And I see two women ahead of me near a phone box. 297 00:17:52,300 --> 00:17:54,770 It looks like they're... not having a fight, 298 00:17:54,770 --> 00:17:56,441 but it's definitely something. 299 00:17:56,441 --> 00:17:58,006 I think the short one 300 00:17:58,006 --> 00:18:00,406 was trying to make the other one walk faster, 301 00:18:00,406 --> 00:18:01,972 but there was a bit of shoving, maybe. 302 00:18:01,972 --> 00:18:03,503 And what did you make of it? 303 00:18:03,503 --> 00:18:06,426 Well, I thought maybe one of them had too much to drink. 304 00:18:06,426 --> 00:18:08,687 I didn't think about it all that much at the time. 305 00:18:08,687 --> 00:18:10,531 Did you get a good look at them? 306 00:18:10,531 --> 00:18:12,619 The tall one had a raincoat on, 307 00:18:12,619 --> 00:18:15,854 and the short one had a plastic rain hood over their head. 308 00:18:16,446 --> 00:18:18,255 I'm afraid I didn't see their faces. 309 00:18:19,125 --> 00:18:22,535 I gather when you spoke to Detective Inspector Talbot, 310 00:18:22,535 --> 00:18:26,500 he thought one of them might've been a man. 311 00:18:26,500 --> 00:18:28,588 I felt like he wanted me to say that, 312 00:18:28,588 --> 00:18:30,049 but, I mean, I don't know. 313 00:18:30,049 --> 00:18:32,311 I can't be sure. 314 00:18:32,311 --> 00:18:35,685 Do we have that article about the women who said it was them? 315 00:18:35,685 --> 00:18:39,095 One second. Here we go. 316 00:18:41,461 --> 00:18:43,410 Fiona Fleury. 317 00:18:46,088 --> 00:18:48,072 "I do take issue with the papers saying 318 00:18:48,072 --> 00:18:50,089 I was rough with my mother. 319 00:18:50,089 --> 00:18:52,211 I was only encouraging her to walk faster 320 00:18:52,211 --> 00:18:54,090 because it was raining so much. 321 00:18:54,090 --> 00:18:56,352 But it was definitely us the witness saw. 322 00:18:56,352 --> 00:18:59,240 I was wearing a rain cap exactly as described." 323 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:00,701 That's the wrong way around. 324 00:19:01,084 --> 00:19:02,858 Fiona's at least a foot taller. 325 00:19:02,858 --> 00:19:05,397 It's her in the rain cap. Her mother's in the raincoat. 326 00:19:05,397 --> 00:19:06,581 And Ruby Elliot said it was 327 00:19:06,581 --> 00:19:09,225 the short one supporting the tall one. 328 00:19:09,225 --> 00:19:11,487 What height is Dennis Creed? 329 00:19:12,182 --> 00:19:13,887 Shorter than Margot. 330 00:19:13,887 --> 00:19:15,905 So Talbot could've been right. 331 00:19:15,905 --> 00:19:17,505 That could've been Margot, 332 00:19:17,505 --> 00:19:18,793 and the short one really could've been 333 00:19:18,793 --> 00:19:20,428 Creed wearing a disguise. 334 00:19:20,428 --> 00:19:23,976 It's possible, but I'm not convinced. 335 00:19:26,064 --> 00:19:26,725 Yup. 336 00:19:26,725 --> 00:19:29,578 I got Paul Satchwell for you. 337 00:19:29,578 --> 00:19:31,665 Put him through. 338 00:19:31,665 --> 00:19:33,162 You little shit. 339 00:19:33,162 --> 00:19:36,571 I've had friends calling me in tears asking me 340 00:19:36,571 --> 00:19:39,146 why I want to paint pictures of their assholes. 341 00:19:39,841 --> 00:19:41,686 What you're doing is illegal. 342 00:19:41,686 --> 00:19:43,982 Illegal is slapping Margot Bamborough 343 00:19:43,982 --> 00:19:47,147 when she asked for her photos back. 344 00:19:47,147 --> 00:19:48,714 All I want from you is straight answers, 345 00:19:48,714 --> 00:19:50,106 and if I don't get them, 346 00:19:50,106 --> 00:19:52,714 I think you have a fair idea of how it's going to go. 347 00:19:53,793 --> 00:19:54,976 All right. 348 00:19:54,976 --> 00:19:57,098 What do you want to know? 349 00:20:11,224 --> 00:20:12,197 Hello? 350 00:20:12,197 --> 00:20:15,817 Hello, Cormoran. It's Jonny, your father. 351 00:20:15,817 --> 00:20:19,713 I just want to have a chat. Is that all right? 352 00:20:19,713 --> 00:20:20,896 You there? 353 00:20:21,765 --> 00:20:24,340 Yeah, I'm listening. 354 00:20:24,340 --> 00:20:27,020 I'm told you've opened the invitation to me party. 355 00:20:27,471 --> 00:20:30,115 It's great. I'd love you to come. 356 00:20:30,115 --> 00:20:31,890 I'm busy. 357 00:20:31,890 --> 00:20:34,847 Well... well, what I really want to say is, 358 00:20:34,847 --> 00:20:38,291 I am proud of you. Do you understand? 359 00:20:38,291 --> 00:20:39,962 I mean, L says you're still angry, 360 00:20:39,962 --> 00:20:42,676 but there's two sides to every story, right? 361 00:20:42,676 --> 00:20:44,450 Now's not a good time to talk. 362 00:20:46,294 --> 00:20:48,938 Well, I've got prostate cancer. 363 00:20:48,938 --> 00:20:51,651 There might not always be time. 364 00:20:51,651 --> 00:20:54,644 I can live with that. Don't call again. 365 00:20:54,644 --> 00:20:56,557 But come... 366 00:21:37,646 --> 00:21:39,386 I don't see how anyone can justify 367 00:21:39,386 --> 00:21:41,265 being a soldier under our last few governments. 368 00:21:41,265 --> 00:21:44,362 Do you think women should have the right to drive a car? 369 00:21:44,709 --> 00:21:46,205 Well, that's a stupid question. 370 00:21:46,205 --> 00:21:47,875 Taliban don't think it's stupid. 371 00:21:47,875 --> 00:21:48,919 For them, it's a no. 372 00:21:48,919 --> 00:21:50,276 Yeah, and we tried to fix that 373 00:21:50,276 --> 00:21:51,876 with a war, didn't we? 374 00:21:52,363 --> 00:21:55,286 So remind me who's running Afghanistan now. 375 00:21:55,286 --> 00:21:57,930 So in your perfect world, how does it go? 376 00:21:57,930 --> 00:22:00,713 We keep the A-10s in hangers and send in Derrida? 377 00:22:01,304 --> 00:22:02,835 Go on, Jacques, fuck 'em up 378 00:22:02,835 --> 00:22:04,123 with your critique of Western thought. 379 00:22:04,123 --> 00:22:06,802 I get it. You're an anti-intellectual. 380 00:22:06,802 --> 00:22:08,228 Or you could answer the question. 381 00:22:08,228 --> 00:22:09,550 Should we have pudding? 382 00:22:09,550 --> 00:22:11,012 Courtney, could you give me a hand? 383 00:22:11,012 --> 00:22:13,030 No, Courtney doesn't carry plates. 384 00:22:13,030 --> 00:22:14,735 She theorizes them. 385 00:22:14,735 --> 00:22:16,509 Ridiculing women isn't the good look 386 00:22:16,509 --> 00:22:18,144 that you think it is. 387 00:22:18,144 --> 00:22:19,466 She's smart. 388 00:22:19,466 --> 00:22:21,136 She got a distinction for her dissertation. 389 00:22:21,136 --> 00:22:24,233 Anyway, Cormoran, Max really wants to hear about our life. 390 00:22:24,233 --> 00:22:27,747 Yeah, well, first I need to hear about 391 00:22:27,747 --> 00:22:29,243 Courtney's dissertation. 392 00:22:29,590 --> 00:22:31,086 This is perfect. 393 00:22:31,086 --> 00:22:33,348 Front seat to the combat zone. 394 00:22:33,348 --> 00:22:35,888 - Well, in simple terms... - Appreciated. 395 00:22:35,888 --> 00:22:40,063 I argued that work is work, bodily autonomy is paramount, 396 00:22:40,063 --> 00:22:41,107 media are permeable, 397 00:22:41,489 --> 00:22:44,272 and desire isn't exclusively a masculine domain. 398 00:22:44,272 --> 00:22:46,604 So you studied porn? 399 00:22:47,786 --> 00:22:49,526 If you want to put it like that. 400 00:22:49,526 --> 00:22:51,092 But the happy porn, though, 401 00:22:51,092 --> 00:22:54,536 not the trafficked women, underaged porn, just... 402 00:22:54,536 --> 00:22:56,555 Who wants cheesecake? 403 00:22:56,555 --> 00:22:58,259 Maybe you need to step outside 404 00:22:58,259 --> 00:22:59,720 of this Victorian mindset. 405 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,687 One place I stepped into was a brothel in Kosovo 406 00:23:03,687 --> 00:23:05,356 where they were filming 14-year-olds. 407 00:23:05,356 --> 00:23:07,235 Yeah, that's different. That's rape. 408 00:23:07,235 --> 00:23:08,523 - Cormoran. - Yeah, it's an industry 409 00:23:08,523 --> 00:23:10,575 that really agonizes over those definitions. 410 00:23:10,575 --> 00:23:11,863 Can we change the subject? 411 00:23:11,863 --> 00:23:13,637 You're positioning yourself as the savior 412 00:23:13,637 --> 00:23:15,551 and totally ignoring the lived experience of... 413 00:23:15,551 --> 00:23:19,029 My lived experience is dealing with human beings, 414 00:23:19,029 --> 00:23:20,908 not writing 2,000 words 415 00:23:20,908 --> 00:23:23,692 on whether rape is a postmodern construct, 416 00:23:23,692 --> 00:23:27,206 because, believe me, it fucking happens. 417 00:23:29,885 --> 00:23:30,859 Shit. 418 00:23:32,494 --> 00:23:33,711 I'm so sorry. 419 00:23:34,581 --> 00:23:36,147 - I'm fine. - Robin. 420 00:23:41,296 --> 00:23:42,305 Max... 421 00:23:44,567 --> 00:23:45,575 the army is... 422 00:23:47,803 --> 00:23:50,586 it's fine. 423 00:23:50,586 --> 00:23:52,429 Robin, I'm sorry. 424 00:23:54,238 --> 00:23:55,213 And you two... 425 00:23:57,822 --> 00:24:00,884 You're fucking idiots. Night. 426 00:24:32,788 --> 00:24:34,736 It's you. 427 00:24:36,337 --> 00:24:37,554 Ignore that. 428 00:24:37,554 --> 00:24:41,695 I was drinking before I came out. 429 00:24:41,695 --> 00:24:43,956 What? 430 00:24:43,956 --> 00:24:44,965 "What?" 431 00:24:46,148 --> 00:24:48,792 Fucking what? 432 00:24:48,792 --> 00:24:51,228 What? 433 00:24:51,228 --> 00:24:54,463 You arrive late because of course you do. 434 00:24:54,463 --> 00:24:56,168 You arrive pissed 435 00:24:56,168 --> 00:24:58,464 because it's only my new flatmate and my family. 436 00:24:58,464 --> 00:24:59,786 Fuck them. Robin will mop it up. 437 00:24:59,786 --> 00:25:01,144 Hang on a minute. 438 00:25:01,144 --> 00:25:03,927 And then it's time to start talking about rape. 439 00:25:04,448 --> 00:25:07,301 Only to make a point. I didn't mean... 440 00:25:10,189 --> 00:25:11,233 Look, I'm sorry. 441 00:25:13,112 --> 00:25:14,991 I said I'm sorry. 442 00:25:15,374 --> 00:25:16,486 No. 443 00:25:18,017 --> 00:25:19,653 No. 444 00:25:19,653 --> 00:25:21,358 It's not enough. 445 00:26:06,308 --> 00:26:08,882 Robin Ellacott. Leave a message. 446 00:26:14,275 --> 00:26:15,563 Dickhead. 447 00:26:21,269 --> 00:26:22,208 Hi, Lucy. 448 00:26:22,208 --> 00:26:24,991 I'm making him some coffee. Would you like some? 449 00:26:24,991 --> 00:26:26,662 Yeah, thank you. 450 00:26:47,258 --> 00:26:49,137 I assume you're going to Cornwall. 451 00:26:49,137 --> 00:26:52,790 Yeah. Lucy's driving. There's a big storm. 452 00:26:52,790 --> 00:26:53,869 No trains running. 453 00:26:55,991 --> 00:26:57,347 Robin, I'm sorry. 454 00:26:57,347 --> 00:27:01,140 I don't want to talk. I just want to get these files. 455 00:27:01,140 --> 00:27:02,670 I might be away for a few days. 456 00:27:02,670 --> 00:27:05,210 That's fine. 457 00:27:05,210 --> 00:27:07,124 Robin, I really am sorry about last night. 458 00:27:07,124 --> 00:27:10,116 I just want to work. I need to concentrate. 459 00:27:12,725 --> 00:27:14,813 I hardly remember half the evening. 460 00:27:14,813 --> 00:27:17,179 You were great, Cormoran. 461 00:27:17,179 --> 00:27:18,501 You put everyone at ease. 462 00:27:18,501 --> 00:27:19,753 You helped out with the washing up. 463 00:27:19,753 --> 00:27:20,937 The perfect guest. 464 00:27:21,876 --> 00:27:22,641 It won't happen again. 465 00:27:22,641 --> 00:27:24,068 No, it bloody well won't. 466 00:27:25,460 --> 00:27:27,338 Coffee's made and you need to pack. 467 00:27:27,338 --> 00:27:29,599 They've just closed the A30. 468 00:27:29,599 --> 00:27:31,374 We need to leave soon. 469 00:27:31,374 --> 00:27:33,496 - Is Joan... - Yeah. 470 00:27:35,409 --> 00:27:36,836 I don't know if we'll make it in time. 471 00:27:36,836 --> 00:27:39,516 Lucy wants to try. 472 00:27:39,516 --> 00:27:41,394 I'm sorry, Cormoran. 473 00:27:44,282 --> 00:27:46,161 It's a long way to go on a hangover. 474 00:27:46,161 --> 00:27:49,639 Lucy's a terrible driver. 475 00:27:49,639 --> 00:27:51,588 I'd be all right with you. 476 00:27:53,814 --> 00:27:56,354 And I am really sorry. 477 00:27:58,163 --> 00:27:59,834 I know you are. 478 00:28:08,775 --> 00:28:10,446 Coffee. Drink it quickly. 479 00:28:12,115 --> 00:28:14,516 - Here you go, Robin. - Thank you. 480 00:28:39,566 --> 00:28:42,105 The road's closed. You have to go back. 481 00:28:42,105 --> 00:28:43,741 We need to get to St. Mawes. 482 00:28:43,741 --> 00:28:45,445 You need to get off the road. 483 00:28:45,445 --> 00:28:47,185 There's trees coming down everywhere. 484 00:28:47,185 --> 00:28:49,447 Thanks, Officer. We'll turn around. 485 00:28:50,629 --> 00:28:52,264 If you turn left at the end of that road, 486 00:28:52,264 --> 00:28:53,691 we can try and get over the hill. 487 00:29:14,253 --> 00:29:15,749 How far are we now? 488 00:29:15,749 --> 00:29:18,254 About 30 miles. Turn around. 489 00:29:18,254 --> 00:29:20,273 We'll try and use farmtracks. 490 00:29:53,463 --> 00:29:54,890 I'll make some calls. 491 00:30:06,092 --> 00:30:08,007 I have got some good news. 492 00:30:08,007 --> 00:30:11,172 - I got an email this morning. - Yeah? 493 00:30:11,172 --> 00:30:14,408 Creed has agreed to let us interview him. 494 00:30:14,408 --> 00:30:18,409 Robin. My God, you beauty! 495 00:30:19,905 --> 00:30:22,967 I can tell you everything you need to ask him. 496 00:30:22,967 --> 00:30:25,681 I mean, no one in the world knows more about him than me. 497 00:30:25,681 --> 00:30:27,524 Well, if you can start 498 00:30:27,524 --> 00:30:29,856 with any evidence you have that Creed took Louise. 499 00:30:30,934 --> 00:30:31,943 They... 500 00:30:33,404 --> 00:30:36,744 gave me this after they were done with it. 501 00:30:36,744 --> 00:30:40,815 They even told me, on balance, they reckon Creed killed Lou, 502 00:30:40,815 --> 00:30:42,624 but there wasn't enough proof, 503 00:30:42,624 --> 00:30:45,790 and they didn't need it to get him put away. 504 00:30:52,192 --> 00:30:53,654 Calvary's arrived. 505 00:30:59,045 --> 00:31:01,551 - Dave. - Figured you'd get stuck here. 506 00:31:03,012 --> 00:31:04,891 - Hi, Dave. - Hi, Luce. 507 00:31:04,891 --> 00:31:06,665 - Hit the wall? - I'll be fine. 508 00:31:06,665 --> 00:31:09,623 Let's get cracking. You remember Nell? 509 00:31:09,623 --> 00:31:12,614 - It's been a while, mate. - Welcome home, boy. 510 00:31:12,614 --> 00:31:14,146 Ain't home yet. 511 00:31:14,146 --> 00:31:15,468 Here you are. Put these on. 512 00:32:18,023 --> 00:32:19,310 Ted! 513 00:32:40,916 --> 00:32:43,873 I never thought you'd make it. 514 00:32:43,873 --> 00:32:45,335 I thought you wouldn't get here. 515 00:32:45,335 --> 00:32:47,248 How is she? 516 00:32:47,248 --> 00:32:50,275 She... she waited. 517 00:32:52,119 --> 00:32:54,346 - Thank you, Nell. - You're welcome. 518 00:32:54,346 --> 00:32:57,199 Scott. Dave. 519 00:32:59,599 --> 00:33:01,374 Don't start. 520 00:33:01,374 --> 00:33:04,157 Get inside, or what the fuck was it all for? 521 00:34:03,895 --> 00:34:05,007 Hello. 522 00:34:12,383 --> 00:34:14,784 Are you comfortable? 523 00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:22,056 Can I get you anything? 524 00:34:22,056 --> 00:34:24,213 Just sit. 525 00:34:26,022 --> 00:34:27,796 Just sit. 526 00:34:34,337 --> 00:34:38,477 I wish I'd met your Robin. 527 00:34:38,477 --> 00:34:40,565 Does she look after you? 528 00:34:43,870 --> 00:34:47,627 It's not like that these days, so... 529 00:34:50,063 --> 00:34:52,463 I'm supposed to look after myself. 530 00:34:56,430 --> 00:34:58,900 You've done enough of that. 531 00:35:03,389 --> 00:35:07,876 Don't worry about me. 532 00:35:12,330 --> 00:35:15,948 You're a good man. 533 00:35:22,176 --> 00:35:26,211 I'm so proud of you, 534 00:35:26,211 --> 00:35:28,612 my lovely boy. 535 00:35:39,676 --> 00:35:41,868 I love you, Joan. 536 00:36:14,085 --> 00:36:15,059 Stick? 537 00:37:53,311 --> 00:37:54,842 Dear Ted, Cormoran, and Lucy, 538 00:37:57,277 --> 00:37:59,956 I'm so sorry for your loss. 539 00:37:59,956 --> 00:38:01,731 I know how much she'll be missed. 540 00:38:04,896 --> 00:38:08,446 I wish I'd met Joan, but I feel like I knew her. 541 00:38:13,352 --> 00:38:15,299 She was there for Cormoran when he was growing up, 542 00:38:15,299 --> 00:38:17,387 and knowing the man he became, 543 00:38:17,387 --> 00:38:19,300 I'll always be grateful to her for that. 544 00:38:35,931 --> 00:38:38,923 That's great news about Creed. 545 00:38:38,923 --> 00:38:40,802 Creed will only talk to you. 546 00:38:40,802 --> 00:38:42,959 I know that's not something you agreed to, and... 547 00:38:42,959 --> 00:38:45,812 I'll do it. Of course I'll do it. 548 00:38:51,100 --> 00:38:52,422 When's the funeral? 549 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,867 Not till after Christmas. 550 00:38:57,641 --> 00:38:59,868 So we're seeing Anna tomorrow. 551 00:38:59,868 --> 00:39:01,920 I can't make the meeting. 552 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,208 I'm sorry. 553 00:39:03,208 --> 00:39:05,330 I tried to move this other thing... 554 00:39:05,330 --> 00:39:08,009 - Robin. Robin. - And I can't. 555 00:39:08,009 --> 00:39:11,732 You've done more than enough. It's fine. 556 00:39:13,924 --> 00:39:16,394 How are you doing? 557 00:39:20,986 --> 00:39:22,761 I'll talk to you tomorrow. 558 00:39:36,191 --> 00:39:37,964 In terms of historic evidence, 559 00:39:37,964 --> 00:39:42,488 we found the police made one serious error. 560 00:39:42,488 --> 00:39:44,784 They discounted a statement by a witness 561 00:39:44,784 --> 00:39:48,298 who saw two people struggling near a phone box. 562 00:39:48,298 --> 00:39:50,351 I'm afraid it hasn't got us any further. 563 00:39:52,298 --> 00:39:55,187 Everyone we've spoken to says your mum would never have 564 00:39:55,187 --> 00:39:57,483 left you for Satchwell or anyone else. 565 00:39:58,214 --> 00:40:01,101 Your mum told your dad she'd met Satchwell. 566 00:40:01,101 --> 00:40:02,458 That's why he suggested 567 00:40:02,458 --> 00:40:04,302 the police check Satchwell's place, 568 00:40:04,823 --> 00:40:07,607 but there's no evidence of an affair. 569 00:40:07,607 --> 00:40:10,286 I think she wanted a bit more attention from your dad. 570 00:40:11,156 --> 00:40:13,592 I have to say just... 571 00:40:13,592 --> 00:40:15,992 knowing that he met up with those other men 572 00:40:15,992 --> 00:40:18,880 who'd lost women, 573 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,777 it means he was trying to find her. 574 00:40:22,777 --> 00:40:24,446 He tried. 575 00:40:26,673 --> 00:40:27,996 I think we should keep going. 576 00:40:28,621 --> 00:40:30,535 Whatever it takes. 577 00:40:30,535 --> 00:40:32,518 No. Hear me out. 578 00:40:32,518 --> 00:40:34,431 Roy looked for her. 579 00:40:34,431 --> 00:40:37,007 He only stopped when he realized he couldn't cope. 580 00:40:37,702 --> 00:40:39,720 Can I ask you about what your partner said 581 00:40:39,720 --> 00:40:42,120 about wanting to continue? 582 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:43,895 I'm sorry. That wasn't appropriate. 583 00:40:44,347 --> 00:40:46,713 It was real, though. 584 00:40:46,713 --> 00:40:48,383 I felt like she really cared. 585 00:40:49,532 --> 00:40:52,141 She does. We both do. 586 00:40:54,262 --> 00:40:56,977 We're nearly at the limit of what we agreed we'd spend. 587 00:40:57,325 --> 00:41:01,500 Bugger the money. This is your happiness. 588 00:41:03,100 --> 00:41:04,527 If it were you, 589 00:41:04,527 --> 00:41:08,841 if you were the client and it was your mother, 590 00:41:08,841 --> 00:41:10,962 would you still keep looking? 591 00:41:13,815 --> 00:41:15,694 If you decide that's what you want to do, 592 00:41:15,694 --> 00:41:18,478 we'd be happy to work at a lower rate. 593 00:41:18,478 --> 00:41:19,556 We'd do it at cost. 594 00:41:21,017 --> 00:41:24,010 It is what we want. 595 00:41:24,010 --> 00:41:26,897 Thank you. 596 00:41:26,897 --> 00:41:28,776 I love you. 597 00:41:29,785 --> 00:41:31,559 I love you too. 598 00:41:39,666 --> 00:41:41,127 Nobody I know can understand 599 00:41:41,127 --> 00:41:43,701 why a one-year marriage is taking so long to sort out. 600 00:41:43,701 --> 00:41:46,624 All I want back is the deposit 601 00:41:46,624 --> 00:41:48,851 my parents gave me for the house. 602 00:41:48,851 --> 00:41:49,895 I've subsidized it. 603 00:41:50,174 --> 00:41:51,843 Do you need me to walk away with nothing 604 00:41:51,843 --> 00:41:53,756 so that it looks like it's all my fault? 605 00:41:53,756 --> 00:41:55,288 Because I can write 606 00:41:55,288 --> 00:41:57,549 to your friends and say that, if that's what you need. 607 00:41:58,628 --> 00:42:01,168 Instead, we've both just sat here missing work. 608 00:42:01,168 --> 00:42:04,125 Yeah, well, I doubt it makes that much difference to you. 609 00:42:04,786 --> 00:42:07,569 Don't forget, I know what you earn. 610 00:42:11,153 --> 00:42:13,379 Thanks for agreeing to talk to Creed. 611 00:42:13,379 --> 00:42:14,527 I'm all in. 612 00:42:14,527 --> 00:42:16,650 You've got both of us until we find Louise. 613 00:42:16,650 --> 00:42:18,946 Not that you need anyone else when you've got Robin. 614 00:42:21,486 --> 00:42:23,295 Psychological profile 615 00:42:24,095 --> 00:42:25,278 done by an American in the '80s. 616 00:42:25,278 --> 00:42:27,644 It's very good. 617 00:42:28,479 --> 00:42:30,045 The gist of it is, 618 00:42:30,045 --> 00:42:33,140 Creed likes people to think he's clever. 619 00:42:33,941 --> 00:42:35,472 So play on his vanity. 620 00:42:35,959 --> 00:42:38,533 He'll expect you to be playing a game 621 00:42:38,533 --> 00:42:40,064 to get Margot's body back. 622 00:42:40,064 --> 00:42:41,769 He'll enjoy it. 623 00:42:41,769 --> 00:42:44,831 Was he interested in astrology or the occult? 624 00:42:45,144 --> 00:42:47,023 Because the first detective who worked on the case... 625 00:42:47,406 --> 00:42:49,946 I know all about Talbot. 626 00:42:49,946 --> 00:42:52,799 Using star signs to solve the case, wasn't it? 627 00:42:54,190 --> 00:42:56,800 Creed did like Aleister Crowley. 628 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,687 They found his books in the flat. 629 00:42:59,687 --> 00:43:02,575 And there's a few theories that he chose certain nights 630 00:43:03,062 --> 00:43:06,263 to take women for satanic rituals. 631 00:43:06,263 --> 00:43:08,211 Well, we'll look into that. 632 00:43:10,368 --> 00:43:13,917 Try and get him talking about places they never dug. 633 00:43:13,917 --> 00:43:16,735 I mean, spots they did check are marked in green. 634 00:43:16,735 --> 00:43:18,092 That's Epping Forest. 635 00:43:18,092 --> 00:43:19,240 The police were already there 636 00:43:19,240 --> 00:43:20,910 when Louise was taken, weren't they? 637 00:43:21,431 --> 00:43:22,754 Well done. Yeah. 638 00:43:22,754 --> 00:43:25,155 Yeah, he was running out of places by then. 639 00:43:25,155 --> 00:43:26,929 What you want to do is 640 00:43:26,929 --> 00:43:29,469 get him talking about these other 12 spots. 641 00:43:30,617 --> 00:43:34,375 His aunt's place near Great Church Wood. 642 00:43:34,375 --> 00:43:38,132 The Archer Hotel in Islington. Now, he was a regular there. 643 00:43:39,002 --> 00:43:41,472 Then there's the old granary building. 644 00:43:41,472 --> 00:43:42,238 That's another one. 645 00:43:44,534 --> 00:43:46,551 Afternoon, Your Highness. 646 00:43:46,551 --> 00:43:49,648 Just ducking in. And these are for you. 647 00:43:51,596 --> 00:43:53,788 How's it going with the dead doc? 648 00:43:53,788 --> 00:43:55,214 Missing doctor. 649 00:43:55,214 --> 00:43:57,684 Whatever the client needs to believe, am I right? 650 00:43:58,624 --> 00:44:00,086 How's it going with Shifty? 651 00:44:00,399 --> 00:44:04,295 Yeah, good. Nearly there. Inches away. 652 00:44:04,295 --> 00:44:05,930 You got any Christmas plans? 653 00:44:05,930 --> 00:44:08,470 Just going home to my mum and dad's. 654 00:44:08,470 --> 00:44:10,419 You got your Christmas stockings ready? 655 00:44:12,054 --> 00:44:13,689 Too old for all that. 656 00:44:22,770 --> 00:44:24,683 I thought you thought that was junk. 657 00:44:24,683 --> 00:44:25,727 You left it open. 658 00:44:26,423 --> 00:44:28,127 Or did Baphomet do that? 659 00:44:31,224 --> 00:44:33,556 To give Talbot his due, he was the first person 660 00:44:33,556 --> 00:44:35,990 to realize there was a serial killer at work. 661 00:44:35,990 --> 00:44:40,270 I still think, I mean, "The killer is Capricorn." 662 00:44:40,270 --> 00:44:42,393 He at least had a theory. 663 00:44:42,393 --> 00:44:44,515 Rory was his Capricorn. 664 00:44:44,515 --> 00:44:46,081 Yeah, but then he crosses out 665 00:44:46,081 --> 00:44:48,690 his whole list of star sign codes for his suspects. 666 00:44:49,385 --> 00:44:51,473 I think he knew he'd got it wrong somehow. 667 00:44:52,412 --> 00:44:54,848 "Schmidt explains everything." 668 00:44:54,848 --> 00:44:57,527 Let's get Schmidt in here. Pat? 669 00:44:59,336 --> 00:45:00,936 You got his tarot cards out. 670 00:45:00,936 --> 00:45:03,372 My mum used to do it every day. 671 00:45:03,372 --> 00:45:05,981 Helped her make all her good decisions. 672 00:45:06,712 --> 00:45:08,417 Go on, then. You obviously know how. 673 00:45:16,697 --> 00:45:17,984 Pick one. 674 00:45:30,614 --> 00:45:32,840 I'll pick you up at 9:00 tomorrow. 675 00:45:33,118 --> 00:45:34,371 It should take about two hours 676 00:45:34,371 --> 00:45:36,145 to get to Broadmoor with traffic. 677 00:45:40,947 --> 00:45:41,991 Pat. 678 00:45:41,991 --> 00:45:43,103 I'm still here. 679 00:46:08,467 --> 00:46:09,858 Thank you for this. 680 00:46:09,858 --> 00:46:11,529 You're welcome. This way. 681 00:46:42,389 --> 00:46:44,476 Hello, Cormoran. 682 00:46:44,476 --> 00:46:46,738 Hello, Dennis. 683 00:46:46,738 --> 00:46:49,174 Who are you working for today, then? 684 00:46:49,835 --> 00:46:51,470 Suspect you'll work that out. 685 00:46:51,818 --> 00:46:55,436 Sign of narcissism. 686 00:46:55,436 --> 00:46:59,715 Withholding information to make yourself feel powerful. 687 00:47:02,081 --> 00:47:06,987 I think you're working for Margot Bamborough's daughter. 688 00:47:06,987 --> 00:47:09,526 She'd be about 51 now, wouldn't she? 689 00:47:10,361 --> 00:47:12,483 Probably worth a few bob. 690 00:47:12,483 --> 00:47:15,267 You don't come cheap with your reputation. 691 00:47:19,303 --> 00:47:22,712 Or is it old Brian Tucker? 692 00:47:22,712 --> 00:47:24,974 I can't see how he'd pay. 693 00:47:24,974 --> 00:47:26,609 I'm confident he's still alive. 694 00:47:27,584 --> 00:47:29,183 Why so confident? 695 00:47:29,183 --> 00:47:31,167 Because somebody would've run a story 696 00:47:31,167 --> 00:47:33,324 in the papers when he dies. 697 00:47:33,324 --> 00:47:37,082 "Father goes to grave not knowing." 698 00:47:37,082 --> 00:47:40,839 The public seem to like that kind of story. 699 00:47:41,465 --> 00:47:43,309 You could check online. 700 00:47:43,309 --> 00:47:45,883 I've never used the internet. 701 00:47:45,883 --> 00:47:49,259 Not allowed to in here. 702 00:47:49,259 --> 00:47:52,598 They like to do things to frustrate me. 703 00:47:53,155 --> 00:47:57,017 They stuff me full of drugs that I don't need. 704 00:47:57,017 --> 00:47:59,696 Feed me swill to ruin my body. 705 00:47:59,696 --> 00:48:02,758 I should be in a prison, not here. 706 00:48:02,758 --> 00:48:03,837 They know that. 707 00:48:05,228 --> 00:48:08,986 I could even be very useful if they meet me halfway. 708 00:48:08,986 --> 00:48:11,386 So you're arguing you're sane. 709 00:48:11,386 --> 00:48:16,501 I understand that it suits society to say otherwise. 710 00:48:17,406 --> 00:48:19,597 Look at the world. 711 00:48:19,597 --> 00:48:24,642 Men like me target society's unwanted. 712 00:48:25,233 --> 00:48:29,652 Polite society won't say it out loud, 713 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:35,114 but they're not unhappy those people are dead. 714 00:48:35,114 --> 00:48:38,698 They don't work hard to catch us 715 00:48:38,698 --> 00:48:40,577 while we're pruning out the rot. 716 00:48:41,551 --> 00:48:46,074 Men like me are necessary. 717 00:48:46,074 --> 00:48:48,787 Nietzsche knew it. 718 00:48:48,787 --> 00:48:50,666 Crowley knew it. 719 00:48:50,666 --> 00:48:53,206 I'd heard you read Crowley. 720 00:48:55,259 --> 00:48:57,415 Do you have me down as a devil worshipper? 721 00:48:58,946 --> 00:49:00,791 Aren't you? 722 00:49:00,791 --> 00:49:04,235 You've read about Detective Talbot, haven't you? 723 00:49:04,235 --> 00:49:09,349 Did you know he tried to solve me using star signs? 724 00:49:10,601 --> 00:49:12,202 Didn't work out very well, did it? 725 00:49:13,211 --> 00:49:17,561 Maybe I was born under the 13th sign. 726 00:49:17,561 --> 00:49:22,640 Not classifiable by an orthodox system. 727 00:49:23,127 --> 00:49:25,423 Maybe that's why he couldn't catch me. 728 00:49:27,267 --> 00:49:30,607 So no killing during the season of the moon 729 00:49:30,607 --> 00:49:32,973 or cult of the ruby star. 730 00:49:33,355 --> 00:49:36,278 So we've both read Crowley. 731 00:49:36,939 --> 00:49:40,906 Sane men don't believe in Satan 732 00:49:40,906 --> 00:49:45,289 or horoscopes, and I am sane. 733 00:49:47,273 --> 00:49:49,534 Your doctors disagree. 734 00:49:51,378 --> 00:49:55,100 I know more about psychology than they do. 735 00:49:55,100 --> 00:49:57,432 You knew a bit about drugs too. 736 00:49:58,093 --> 00:50:03,137 Pentobarbital, phenobarbital slipped in a drink. 737 00:50:03,137 --> 00:50:06,373 My field of expertise. 738 00:50:06,373 --> 00:50:08,356 What if a woman had been drinking? 739 00:50:09,713 --> 00:50:11,974 With alcohol in the blood, isn't there the danger 740 00:50:11,974 --> 00:50:14,757 you'd kill them before you got them home? 741 00:50:14,757 --> 00:50:17,263 I could always tell how much she'd had. 742 00:50:17,263 --> 00:50:18,585 I'd alter the dose. 743 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,177 Did you adjust the dose for weight? 744 00:50:24,395 --> 00:50:26,308 Of course. 745 00:50:26,308 --> 00:50:29,266 And did they always finish the drink you gave them, 746 00:50:29,579 --> 00:50:32,537 even if they needed to be somewhere else? 747 00:50:32,537 --> 00:50:35,564 You're thinking Dr. Bamborough 748 00:50:36,329 --> 00:50:39,390 would've been too clever to end up in my van. 749 00:50:40,956 --> 00:50:43,948 Doctors make mistakes like everyone. 750 00:50:45,514 --> 00:50:47,532 You didn't always use the van, did you? 751 00:50:47,532 --> 00:50:50,350 You met Noreen Sturrock on a bus. 752 00:50:50,350 --> 00:50:51,671 You gave her a can of Coke. 753 00:50:52,438 --> 00:50:53,481 Cans of pop? 754 00:50:55,499 --> 00:50:58,422 Adjusting the dose for the smaller body? 755 00:50:59,187 --> 00:51:02,040 Maybe you are here 756 00:51:02,387 --> 00:51:04,162 for little Louise Tucker. 757 00:51:05,728 --> 00:51:07,085 As a matter of fact, 758 00:51:07,085 --> 00:51:10,076 my client is Margot Bamborough's daughter. 759 00:51:14,599 --> 00:51:16,304 What do you want out of this meeting? 760 00:51:16,304 --> 00:51:20,271 I want to go back to Belmarsh 761 00:51:20,271 --> 00:51:22,150 where I can finish my book. 762 00:51:23,019 --> 00:51:26,255 Keeping me here cost the taxpayer 763 00:51:26,255 --> 00:51:28,864 five times as much as prison. 764 00:51:28,864 --> 00:51:30,951 Where do you think they want me? 765 00:51:30,951 --> 00:51:32,900 They'd want you back in prison, 766 00:51:32,900 --> 00:51:35,440 but the public don't get to decide where you belong. 767 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,840 That's down to your doctors. 768 00:51:38,293 --> 00:51:40,206 Do you think you could change anyone's mind 769 00:51:40,206 --> 00:51:41,563 by talking to the press? 770 00:51:41,563 --> 00:51:43,999 'Cause there's a way to do that. 771 00:51:43,999 --> 00:51:46,086 You tell me where Margot Bamborough's buried, 772 00:51:46,086 --> 00:51:48,522 I'll have a body and you'll have a trial. 773 00:51:48,522 --> 00:51:50,748 If you plead not guilty, you'll take the stand. 774 00:51:50,748 --> 00:51:52,940 Then you can speak to the press directly. 775 00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,474 I killed Louise Tucker. 776 00:52:11,345 --> 00:52:12,841 Saw her in her school uniform. 777 00:52:15,033 --> 00:52:17,050 Hard to resist. 778 00:52:19,069 --> 00:52:21,191 Wasn't any planning. 779 00:52:21,191 --> 00:52:23,731 No drugs. 780 00:52:23,731 --> 00:52:27,697 Very unlike me. 781 00:52:27,697 --> 00:52:30,793 Saw her and I took her. 782 00:52:31,594 --> 00:52:32,742 There's no evidence 783 00:52:32,742 --> 00:52:35,385 Louise Tucker was ever in your basement. 784 00:52:35,385 --> 00:52:39,039 That's 'cause she never was in my basement. 785 00:52:39,352 --> 00:52:41,962 I did take her necklace off her 786 00:52:41,962 --> 00:52:43,388 before I dumped the body. 787 00:52:46,241 --> 00:52:49,060 Thousands of those butterfly necklaces were made. 788 00:52:50,033 --> 00:52:52,747 How about this, then? 789 00:52:52,747 --> 00:52:56,192 She called her stepmum Claws. 790 00:52:56,192 --> 00:53:01,306 She told me all about how unhappy she was at home. 791 00:53:02,350 --> 00:53:03,881 Ask Brian Tucker 792 00:53:05,203 --> 00:53:08,891 how else I could've known about that. 793 00:53:08,891 --> 00:53:10,178 It's not enough. 794 00:53:10,178 --> 00:53:11,500 Without a body, they'll think 795 00:53:11,500 --> 00:53:12,752 you're just looking for attention. 796 00:53:12,752 --> 00:53:14,040 It'd never go to court. 797 00:53:16,475 --> 00:53:18,632 Why don't you tell me where Margot is? 798 00:53:21,242 --> 00:53:26,112 Once I'm back in Belmarsh... 799 00:53:30,217 --> 00:53:31,227 Then... 800 00:53:32,757 --> 00:53:37,559 maybe I'll be able to talk about Margot Bamborough. 801 00:53:37,559 --> 00:53:40,620 Might feel up to it once I'm not being drugged. 802 00:53:45,561 --> 00:53:47,614 You're full of shit, Dennis. 803 00:53:48,484 --> 00:53:49,944 I don't believe you had anything to do 804 00:53:49,944 --> 00:53:51,128 with Louise or Margot. 805 00:53:52,833 --> 00:53:54,051 Ready to go. 806 00:53:54,051 --> 00:53:56,451 Why don't we meet halfway? 807 00:53:57,251 --> 00:54:00,103 Then we'll find out how clever you are. 808 00:54:00,660 --> 00:54:04,975 You'll find Louise where you find M54. 809 00:54:05,253 --> 00:54:06,540 The M54? 810 00:54:06,540 --> 00:54:09,497 You'll find her where you find M54. 811 00:54:09,497 --> 00:54:12,768 If you can work that out, after that, 812 00:54:12,768 --> 00:54:16,142 maybe then we can talk about Margot. 813 00:54:16,142 --> 00:54:18,300 Those are my terms. 814 00:54:21,465 --> 00:54:24,041 I know your type, Cormoran. 815 00:54:24,041 --> 00:54:27,207 You read about women fighting near a phone box. 816 00:54:27,207 --> 00:54:30,721 You read about a van seen speeding away. 817 00:54:30,721 --> 00:54:32,669 Everyone else has got it wrong. 818 00:54:33,086 --> 00:54:36,288 Now you'll be the one who gets it right. 819 00:54:37,087 --> 00:54:41,228 I can see to that, 820 00:54:41,228 --> 00:54:43,524 but it's my rules. 821 00:54:48,603 --> 00:54:51,387 The plea for witnesses was in all the papers. 822 00:54:52,639 --> 00:54:56,919 The phone box women, the van, 823 00:54:56,919 --> 00:54:59,215 that's in a dozen books about you. 824 00:54:59,215 --> 00:55:01,233 I expect you've read them all. 825 00:55:02,137 --> 00:55:04,190 - The unanswered questions. - No. 826 00:55:05,269 --> 00:55:06,452 We've answered them. 827 00:55:07,286 --> 00:55:09,722 That wasn't you driving the van. 828 00:55:09,722 --> 00:55:10,836 You never met Margot. 829 00:55:11,740 --> 00:55:13,410 We ruled you out some time ago. 830 00:55:14,558 --> 00:55:16,854 I was only ever here for Louise Tucker. 831 00:55:19,150 --> 00:55:21,099 I think you're a fucking lunatic, 832 00:55:21,412 --> 00:55:23,674 and if anyone asks, 833 00:55:23,674 --> 00:55:26,701 I'll say you should be here in Broadmoor 834 00:55:27,536 --> 00:55:29,588 until you rot. 835 00:55:45,732 --> 00:55:50,116 Motorway, motorway, car. 836 00:55:51,959 --> 00:55:55,960 Try searching M54 minus motorway minus car. 837 00:56:00,518 --> 00:56:03,510 There's a star called M54. 838 00:56:03,510 --> 00:56:05,215 It's located in the constellation of... 839 00:56:05,563 --> 00:56:07,198 Sagittarius. 840 00:56:07,859 --> 00:56:09,633 Yeah. How did you know that? 841 00:56:12,695 --> 00:56:15,548 I think I know where Louise is buried. 842 00:56:15,548 --> 00:56:18,053 Sagittarius is also called the Archer. 843 00:56:18,053 --> 00:56:19,966 One of the places that Brian Tucker said Creed 844 00:56:19,966 --> 00:56:23,550 might've used under pressure is the Archer Hotel in Islington. 845 00:56:31,761 --> 00:56:33,048 George Layborn. 846 00:56:43,973 --> 00:56:46,547 We found what looks like a skeleton. 847 00:56:46,930 --> 00:56:48,670 It's gonna be her, isn't it? 848 00:56:49,644 --> 00:56:51,557 How'd you figure it out? 849 00:56:51,557 --> 00:56:53,436 Creed's clue about Sagittarius 850 00:56:53,436 --> 00:56:54,932 wasn't as clever as he thought it was. 851 00:56:54,932 --> 00:56:56,672 More bloody star signs. 852 00:56:56,672 --> 00:56:59,629 I asked him about star signs 'cause of Talbot. 853 00:56:59,629 --> 00:57:01,716 Yeah, he said if Talbot couldn't catch him, 854 00:57:01,716 --> 00:57:05,196 maybe it was 'cause he was born under the 13th sign. 855 00:57:05,196 --> 00:57:07,944 - 13th? - Probably taking a piss. 856 00:57:07,944 --> 00:57:09,719 Yeah, well, he's not laughing now, is he? 857 00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:11,110 I better get back. 858 00:57:11,110 --> 00:57:13,129 If you do speak to her dad, nothing's official 859 00:57:13,129 --> 00:57:14,728 till we've done dental records, all right? 860 00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,805 You know how Creed said he was born under sign 13? 861 00:57:42,805 --> 00:57:44,372 Unclassifiable. 862 00:57:45,798 --> 00:57:48,859 I looked up the 13th sign. It exists. 863 00:57:48,859 --> 00:57:51,295 It's part of a 14-sign zodiac system 864 00:57:51,295 --> 00:57:53,417 developed in the '70s by an American astrologer. 865 00:57:53,417 --> 00:57:54,635 Guess what his name was. 866 00:57:58,427 --> 00:58:00,376 Steven Schmidt. 867 00:58:00,723 --> 00:58:02,985 "Schmidt explains everything." 868 00:58:02,985 --> 00:58:05,281 All this crossing out is Talbot trying to apply 869 00:58:05,281 --> 00:58:07,751 Schmidt's 14-sign zodiac to his suspect's birthdays. 870 00:58:08,342 --> 00:58:10,221 That was already a mad thing to be doing. 871 00:58:10,535 --> 00:58:12,205 Yeah, no, I know that, but the point is, 872 00:58:12,205 --> 00:58:14,779 under Schmidt's system, people's star signs change. 873 00:58:14,779 --> 00:58:18,293 One of them, Steve Douthwaite, 874 00:58:18,293 --> 00:58:20,624 becomes a Capricorn. 875 00:58:21,947 --> 00:58:24,765 "Capricorn kills Julie W." 876 00:58:24,765 --> 00:58:27,304 So I ran a search in the local newspaper archives 877 00:58:27,304 --> 00:58:30,122 to the names Julie and Steve in a ten-year period, 878 00:58:30,122 --> 00:58:31,375 with Canvey Island 879 00:58:31,375 --> 00:58:33,498 and the holiday camp as search modifiers. 880 00:58:33,498 --> 00:58:35,724 I think I found Julie W. 881 00:58:38,681 --> 00:58:43,483 Julie Wilkes was a holiday rep at Baxton's in Canvey Island. 882 00:58:43,483 --> 00:58:45,953 She died while Douthwaite was working there. 883 00:58:46,231 --> 00:58:48,005 Not that long after Carl Oakden wrote 884 00:58:48,005 --> 00:58:50,441 that article about him changing his name. 885 00:58:50,441 --> 00:58:53,572 Look, it even mentions Julie's on-off boyfriend Steve. 886 00:58:53,572 --> 00:58:56,877 "Fellow holiday camp rep Steve Jacks, 887 00:58:56,877 --> 00:58:58,895 who declined to speak with us." 888 00:59:00,740 --> 00:59:02,583 How did Julie die? 889 00:59:03,244 --> 00:59:07,071 She was found intoxicated, floating in the camp pool. 890 00:59:07,071 --> 00:59:10,585 Police questioned Steve, but no charges were brought. 891 00:59:10,585 --> 00:59:14,725 He left Baxton's a week later. 892 00:59:14,725 --> 00:59:17,300 Look what I found in Talbot's notebook. 893 00:59:17,300 --> 00:59:19,317 It's a train ticket to Canvey Island 894 00:59:19,317 --> 00:59:21,823 dated the week before he was sanctioned. 895 00:59:21,823 --> 00:59:24,502 I think Douthwaite was the last thing he worked out. 896 00:59:26,241 --> 00:59:28,573 I've been looking into an ex-girlfriend of his 897 00:59:28,573 --> 00:59:31,530 who apparently committed suicide. 898 00:59:31,530 --> 00:59:33,200 Margot becomes his doctor, 899 00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:34,696 and he starts sending her chocolates 900 00:59:34,696 --> 00:59:35,949 and asking to see her every week. 901 00:59:36,366 --> 00:59:37,896 And suddenly she goes missing. 902 00:59:40,193 --> 00:59:41,863 Then he moves, 903 00:59:41,863 --> 00:59:44,856 and his new girlfriend is found drowned at Baxton's. 904 00:59:45,585 --> 00:59:47,813 Talbot was looking for a serial killer. 905 00:59:50,666 --> 00:59:52,579 I think he might've found one.