1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:03,880 VOICEOVER: Tonight... 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,160 Oh! Guys, distract him! Oh! 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,080 ..it's all fun and games... 4 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,320 Oh! It's rigged! 5 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,080 ..until the sharks get hungry. 6 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,160 $350,000 for 45%. 7 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:17,880 What? 8 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:19,760 But as the tables turn... 9 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,880 You are a shark! 10 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:24,720 ..who will fight for the chance... 11 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,560 What would I need to do to convince you right now? 12 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,520 ..to secure a deal of a lifetime? 13 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:02,920 First into the tank, 14 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:07,640 Perth innovator and the youngest entrepreneur to face the sharks, 15 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,120 13-year-old Lucas Lane 16 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:11,600 and his mum, Brianna. 17 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,760 I first started the business when I was 12 years old 18 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:15,640 and that's how I came up with the whole idea. 19 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,240 I'm good. Alright. 20 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,880 Just making something accessible for guys like me - 21 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:21,680 it's just kind of rad. 22 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,200 It certainly is. 23 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,640 OK. OK. 24 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,040 Hi. I'm Lucas. 25 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,040 I'm 13, from Perth, Western Australia 26 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,000 and this is my company, Glossy Boys. 27 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,080 Glossy Boys is a three-in-one gel nail polish pen, 28 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,520 meaning that there's no need for a top or base coat, 29 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,840 you just paint straight on and dry. 30 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,040 It's in a pen for precision painting, 31 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,040 'cause that's the easiest way to paint your nails. 32 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,320 This is my mum. She helps me all the time with it and... 33 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,080 Your mum. Yeah, we're co-founders. 34 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:07,960 Aww! Does she have a name? 35 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,440 Brianna. (LAUGHS) My name is Brianna. 36 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,360 When I was 12 years old, I really wanted to paint my nails. 37 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,400 But buying nail polish as a guy can kind of suck. 38 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,720 Just going into that big, pink pharmacy, 39 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,200 I didn't feel welcome - I felt judged the whole time. 40 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,480 I didn't want anyone else to go through that. 41 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,440 That's why I started Glossy Boys. 42 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,200 In just the nine months of trading, 43 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:31,960 we've done $67,000 in sales 44 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,560 with a gross profit margin of 64%. 45 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,000 Wow. 46 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,360 And we're tapping into the $110 million market. 47 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,200 I'm offering 5% for $25,000 48 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,000 and your help and support. 49 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,200 So, Sharks, are you ready to un-boring your hands? 50 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:49,720 Thanks for listening. 51 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:54,880 If I understand correctly, the product is nail polish 52 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,360 but what you've done is also solve a pretty phenomenal problem 53 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,800 that everybody has with nail polish, 54 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:05,160 which is needing a bottom coat, the colour and then a top coat 55 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,040 and so is it more durable than your average nail polish? 56 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:09,880 Yeah. I like to go out on the skateboard. 57 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,000 I thrash around the skate park 58 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,680 and these nails generally last around two to three weeks. 59 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,440 Wow. That's great. Yeah. 60 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,480 It's way more durable than your average nail polish. 61 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,840 Lucas, can we try it? Hell, yeah! 62 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,600 Alright. Let's get some of the product. 63 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,480 So, this is, uh, the starter kit that we get. 64 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,520 Oh, thank you. 65 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:33,840 Yeah. Thank you. 66 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,520 What colour are you giving him? We've gone purple. 67 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,720 Purple Haze. Purple Haze. 68 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,480 Robert's gone the white. Oh, Jane! 69 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,840 Yes? Whoa, well done! 70 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:48,800 Lucas, what do you think of Robert's nails? 71 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:50,800 I don't think I did a very good job, Lucas. 72 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:52,920 It's...it's interesting. 73 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,080 (LAUGHTER) 74 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,600 DR CATRIONA: Lucas and Brianna, thank you for the demonstration. 75 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,920 Talk us through, then - what do you sell it for 76 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,680 and what does it cost you to make? 77 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:12,320 Yep, so, we sell the everything kit for $49.95 78 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,520 and with the pens, the pens are $12.95 79 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,800 and those cost about $3.00 to produce 80 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,840 and we gain about $8.00 gross profit from that. 81 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,840 Hey, Lucas, amazing pitch. Product looks really great. 82 00:04:24,840 --> 00:04:29,800 I just want to understand how you've sold the...$67,000, was it? 83 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:34,920 We went viral with Christian Hull, who is an Australian LGBTQ comedian. 84 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,120 He actually just purchased our product 85 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:41,280 and then he did a TikTok and an Instagram. 86 00:04:41,280 --> 00:04:43,600 We've been all over TV, all over the radio. 87 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,400 (WHISTLES) 88 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,440 And now landed here in Sydney with the Sharks 89 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,280 and it's been absolutely amazing. 90 00:04:51,280 --> 00:04:53,240 Lucas, when I was 13, 91 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,680 I was at the markets, busking with a harmonica 92 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,600 to bring some income into the family, 93 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,280 so the fact that you're standing up here today 94 00:05:01,280 --> 00:05:02,920 is remarkable. 95 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:04,520 You mentioned in the pitch 96 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,760 that the market for men's nail polish is $110 million - 97 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,360 is that globally or is that just here in Australia? 98 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,000 Believe it or not, that's just here in Australia. 99 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,480 Wow. 100 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,680 So what happens when sales triples? 101 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,880 What are you gonna do in terms of school? 102 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,440 I used to go to school - 103 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,880 I'm actually doing an online school right now 104 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:25,760 and an entrepreneurial school. 105 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,080 Wow. 106 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:31,440 Somehow, I've balanced a lot with school and work. 107 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,760 It's hard being a young entrepreneur. 108 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,320 What made you want to be an entrepreneur at an early age? 109 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:41,000 Thing is, there's always been stuff that I've wanted 110 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,600 but no-one else offered. 111 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,480 Wow. You know, I always tell people... 112 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,400 "How do I start a business?" 113 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,320 I always say, find a problem, solve the problem, 114 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:50,800 start a business. 115 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,440 Yep. 116 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,680 Hey, Lucas, what's the big vision? 117 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,800 Ooh. That... Pretty big. 118 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:01,720 One of the reasons why we're here is to consolidate our manufacturing, 119 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:05,800 so we need to get face-to-face with our manufacturers in China. 120 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,520 We want to go international, we want to meet more people 121 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,840 and we want to be the boys' nail polish of OPI, basically. 122 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,680 The margins in this category 123 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,360 are massive. 124 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,120 Like, typically 90% plus. 125 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,480 I'm a little bit torn - half of me says great idea. 126 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:32,320 You're focusing on a smaller market to dominate 127 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,640 and then maybe you'll expand. 128 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,640 The other half of me says it's such a great application - 129 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:42,480 why narrow it to only boys, with this marketing? 130 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,440 But there's no need to - 131 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,040 so, 70% of our customers are female. 132 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,280 70% are female? Wow. 133 00:06:49,280 --> 00:06:53,920 Women absolutely want this product, no question. 134 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,000 Can we market it to women? 135 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,680 We already are. 136 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,320 Great answer. 137 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,240 Look, incredibly impressive, both of you. 138 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,120 If you get market share, 139 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,160 the very large companies will come along 140 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:08,760 and want to crush you. 141 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,760 And usually it doesn't scare me 142 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,840 but I need to know something about the industry. 143 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:15,960 I'm not the right Shark for this. 144 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,000 I wish you all the best. I'm out. 145 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,400 Thanks. SABRI: Let me jump in. 146 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,680 So, I think that in order to have a Shark that's invested, 147 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,880 our time is incredibly valuable, 148 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,120 more than our money, 149 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,280 and the mentorship that you're gonna need 150 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:31,960 to really be able to scale this up - 151 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,760 to Robert's point, basically, I think that's still too early. 152 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,760 It's still too early as a concept, so for that reason, I'm out. 153 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,160 Thank you. 154 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:44,520 So, Lucas, I think you are so impressive. 155 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,880 I can...I can't believe you're 13. 156 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:49,560 So... 157 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,960 ..I would like to make you an offer. 158 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,000 $25,000 at 10%. 159 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,080 OK. 160 00:07:58,080 --> 00:07:59,720 (EXHALES) 161 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:04,200 When you're so young and so charismatic and ambitious, 162 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,680 I think you're, as I said, an absolute killer 163 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,440 and I would love to support you. 164 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,920 I'm gonna offer you $50,000 for 20%, 165 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:12,920 because I want to be really incentivised 166 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:14,440 to get out of bed in the morning 167 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,880 and I'm happy to partner with any other Shark here as well. 168 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:19,560 Wow. 169 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:23,560 I'm much more interested in you as a social entrepreneur, 170 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,320 'cause that's what I think you are 171 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,760 and so I am going to make you an offer. 172 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:35,000 I will give you $25,000 for the 5% of the business. 173 00:08:36,560 --> 00:08:38,840 Uh...what do you... what do you think? 174 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,480 VOICEOVER: Three Sharks have made very different offers. 175 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,040 It's decision time for Lucas and his mum. 176 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:47,880 Jane and Davie, 15%. 177 00:08:49,680 --> 00:08:55,000 We're incredibly humbled for all of your offers. 178 00:08:55,000 --> 00:09:00,680 So, our offer is to have Davie and Jane, 179 00:09:00,680 --> 00:09:04,240 $50,000 for 15% 180 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:08,240 and Catriona coming on board, $25,000 for 5%. 181 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:13,240 So you want Cat to pay more for her equity? 182 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,000 Wow. 183 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,600 You are a shark! 184 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,920 VOICEOVER: 13-year-old Lucas and mum Brianna 185 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,960 have had three separate offers from the Sharks 186 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,760 and have decided to bravely counter them. 187 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:42,760 They want to accept Davie and Jane's $50,000 188 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,160 for 15% of their Glossy Boys business 189 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:50,000 and Catriona's offer of $25,000 190 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,440 for just 5%. 191 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,800 How will their bold proposition go down? 192 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,280 DAVIE: I'm happy with it. Alright. Fair enough. Fair enough. 193 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,120 I'll put my money where my mouth is. 194 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:01,760 I'll do it. Do we have a deal? 195 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:03,400 We have a deal. We have a deal! 196 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,280 Oh, my god! 197 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,280 You're brilliant! 198 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,720 Oh, well done. DAVIE: Good job. 199 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,400 We need to have wine. 200 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,480 That was...that was a moment. 201 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,000 DAVIE: Keep killin' it. Did not see that coming. 202 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:20,840 That was so good! 203 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:25,400 VOICEOVER: Lucas has secured a remarkable deal with the Sharks. 204 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:29,240 What a result for the 13-year-old entrepreneur. 205 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,120 Oh, my god! We just made a deal! 206 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:32,760 We did a deal! 207 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,600 So, we used 25K as bait and we hooked three Sharks. 208 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,560 Next up, another entrepreneur from the west. 209 00:10:43,560 --> 00:10:47,000 If you're into Space Invaders, Pac-Man or Pong, 210 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,840 then this pitch from Perth could be right up your alley. 211 00:11:10,560 --> 00:11:12,040 G'day, Sharks. 212 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,800 My name's David Greene, from The Nostalgia Box, 213 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,280 the retro video-game console museum 214 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:21,240 where you get to learn and play all the retro gaming history. 215 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,600 I'm seeking $200,000 216 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,440 for 20% of the business. 217 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,040 Our museum, based in Perth, 218 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:29,520 is a magical place. 219 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,840 People can come through our museum and see over 100 different consoles 220 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:35,360 but we're a living museum - 221 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,520 people can actually come and play many of these consoles 222 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,760 with the original games that go with it. 223 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,320 Ultimately, Sharks, you all have money. 224 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,160 I love money - I'm hoping you're all gonna give me lots of money. 225 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:47,640 (LAUGHTER) 226 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,840 But that's not the only reason why I'm here. 227 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,240 What I'm hoping is one or more of you Sharks will come together, 228 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,840 get excited and help bring The Nostalgia Box to the next level. 229 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,480 Brought along a couple of consoles but the main one is this one here. 230 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:04,000 It's your standard Pong game, where you use the paddles, go up and down, 231 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:05,840 everything like that 232 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:07,840 but we have a segment called Beat the Boss, 233 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:09,440 where any member of the public 234 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,000 can come and challenge me to a simple game of Pong 235 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,080 and all they've gotta do is beat me to 5 points 236 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:15,920 and if they do that, they get a loot box 237 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,680 filled with chocolate, candy and all kinds of goodies. 238 00:12:18,680 --> 00:12:20,880 So, Sharks, I would like to invite you guys to come up, 239 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:22,640 test your mettle against mine. 240 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,680 You go first. Jane is a world champion. 241 00:12:24,680 --> 00:12:26,280 I'll work out where your weakness points are. 242 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:27,840 That's right. Alright. 243 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,320 So, all you've gotta do is move the paddles up and down like that. 244 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:31,920 It's first to 5 points. 245 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,000 The interesting thing about the Pong system... 246 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,640 Ooh! Hey! 247 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,000 Yeah, you're better to stop pitching and get into the game over here. 248 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,480 Now, that would be so embarrassing on national TV, wouldn't it? 249 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,680 Oh, my good. Sabri, you suck! 250 00:12:42,680 --> 00:12:44,320 Oh! Hey... 251 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,040 Oh, my... 4?! At least he's not gonna be 0 to 5. 252 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:48,680 That would just be embarrassing. That's true. 253 00:12:48,680 --> 00:12:50,600 Wait... Guys, distract him! 254 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,360 Go, Jane. Ask him about the valuation. 255 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,320 What's with the valuation? Oh! 256 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,800 You've gotta get 1 point. Don't let me beat you. 257 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,560 Oh! Oh! 258 00:13:00,560 --> 00:13:02,760 It's rigged! I'm going home. 259 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,000 Can she still have the loot box? 260 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,640 You should never beat the person that you're trying to impress. 261 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,960 It gives you an incentive to come back and beat me later, right? 262 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,320 VOICEOVER: David is asking for $200,000 263 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,640 in return for 20% of his business. 264 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,240 So, please, any questions you would like to ask me? 265 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,120 It was a great pitch, David. Thank you. 266 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,000 It seems like a really interesting concept. 267 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,640 Run us through the business element - so, you... 268 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,840 People can come in... Yeah. 269 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,000 People actually come and they pay an entry fee - 270 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,200 it's $18.70 for adults, 271 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:36,840 $13.20 for kids 272 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,960 and that's an all-day ticket, so people can literally come in, 273 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,400 play some video games, maybe go for lunch and come back 274 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,200 and lots of people do. 275 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,240 We also hire the venue out for birthday parties, functions, 276 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:47,880 all kinds of events. 277 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:49,360 Literally last week, 278 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,480 we had a burlesque show come down and do a gig. 279 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,160 Whoo! Yeah, it was a lot of fun. 280 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,200 Spicing it up! Oh, yeah! Absolutely. 281 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:59,320 So, David, how capital-intensive is it to set up? 282 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:03,880 So, I bought the original business back at the end of 2019. 283 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,480 It was the original owner's personal collection, 284 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,400 so we built from there initially. 285 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,120 What did you pay for the business? 286 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,880 $120,000 at the time. 287 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,480 What was the revenue when you bought the business 288 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,040 and what's the revenue today? 289 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,280 Around about $130,000 when I was start... 290 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:21,960 before we bought the business. 291 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:23,760 A year? A year. 292 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,640 And what did you do last year? 293 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,400 We did over $193,000 in turnover. 294 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,720 We made an $18,000 profit. 295 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:34,400 VOICEOVER: David's games were big way before the internet 296 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,120 and online marketing 297 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,080 and even before some of our Sharks were born. 298 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,000 Will they be able to relate to it? 299 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:46,440 I have an online fashion retail business with a global reach 300 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:50,160 but this is an in-person, experiential business 301 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,800 that is in a different industry, in a different state - 302 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,000 it's just too much of a leap for me. 303 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,480 It's probably not something that I would invest in. 304 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,720 I am out but thank you. 305 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,360 Thank you very much. 306 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,040 David, I love the product - 307 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,960 I used to go down to the milk bar with my brother, 308 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:13,440 with our pocket money 309 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,240 and play these games for hours. 310 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:17,960 You're selling memories 311 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,080 and time has showed that there is, kind of, 312 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,360 no price that people would put on that thing that they won't pay. 313 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,240 The thing that, you know, I'm struggling with 314 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:31,120 is that this just isn't a business that I would be able to jump on in 315 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:32,960 and add a lot of value to - 316 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,400 I'm looking for businesses that I can scale. 317 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:38,720 I'm out. 318 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:40,280 OK. Thank you very much. 319 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,080 I...I don't know how to value your business 320 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,760 and I just don't know enough about the local market. 321 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,360 For that reason, I'm out. Thank you very much. 322 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,600 And then there were two! 323 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,200 So, David, hey. I'm Cat. 324 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,880 So, I would never play this. 325 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:07,360 I play Lightsaber, 326 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:11,480 which is a full 3D virtual reality game, which I love, 327 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,640 so all the gaming I do is in the metaverse, 328 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:18,640 so for the reasons that I'm interested in virtual games... 329 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,080 ..I'm out. 330 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:22,840 Thank you so much anyway. 331 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,720 DAVIE: I think... (STAGE WHISPER) Say yes! 332 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,320 (LAUGHTER) 333 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:40,480 Look, I love experiences and I love that business model as well. 334 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:44,320 I think that it's incredibly scaleable through franchises. 335 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,800 The problem is, I just...I don't know what the place looks like. 336 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,800 I don't think that you've ever been to a place like this, right? 337 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:54,560 No. No. Yeah. 338 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,280 I think, if you're gonna demo a space 339 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,480 and it's critical to your pitch, 340 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,160 you should show it. 341 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,760 Maybe a video walk-through. Or a picture, even. 342 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,920 What would I need to do to convince you right now 343 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:09,760 that this would be a great investment? 344 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,400 I mean, obviously, I could show you pictures 345 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,560 and you could say, "Yes, that's amazing." 346 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,440 'Cause I feel like you're on the fence. 347 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,560 This guy's a great salesman! (LAUGHTER) 348 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,800 I feel like you want to invest but I feel the hesitancy, 349 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,360 so what is it that... 350 00:17:22,360 --> 00:17:26,080 I want to invest because of you and the business model of experiences 351 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:27,560 but unfortunately, 352 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,040 I just don't think that you're gonna be able to get me over the line 353 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:31,680 in the short time that we have today. 354 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,280 I'm sorry, David. I'm out. OK. 355 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,760 Well, thank you very much, everyone, for your time 356 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,840 and, uh, maybe I'll see you in Perth sometime. 357 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:41,520 It was a really great pitch. Thank you, David. 358 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,440 I think you did really well. Alright. Thank you, guys. 359 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,000 JANE: Thank you, David. (SIGHS) 360 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,680 VOICEOVER: Next up... 361 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:51,840 SHARKS: Aww! Come on, come here! 362 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:55,160 A brand-new solution for doggy pollution. 363 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,120 Oh, the poop goes in there! Wow. 364 00:17:57,120 --> 00:17:58,760 And later... 365 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,400 Ooh, I love it. 366 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,200 ..the Sharks are stunned... 367 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:03,680 Oh, wow. Wow. I'm ready! 368 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,200 ..as cutting-edge technology enters the tank. 369 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,920 Half a million dollars for the entire business. 370 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:11,520 What?! 371 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:21,000 Next into the tank is Sydney-based Sebastian Waddell, 372 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,280 with a product that aims to make life a little easier 373 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,400 for pet owners across the world. 374 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,000 Fydoo. Oh, I love the name. 375 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:34,960 Good boy. 376 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,880 Hey! Aww! 377 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,400 A dog! Yay! 378 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,360 Hello! Aww! 379 00:18:49,360 --> 00:18:51,920 Come on! (LAUGHTER) 380 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:55,880 Hi, Sharks. 381 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,640 My name's Sebastian Waddell and I'm the founder of Fydoo. 382 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:03,240 I'm seeking $250,000 for a 20% share of my business. 383 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,240 Sharks, we all know someone who owns a dog, 384 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,240 or we're lucky enough to own a dog of our own, 385 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,240 like me here with Hugo. 386 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,200 However, it does have some challenges, 387 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,240 especially when it comes to their toileting. 388 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,120 I've invented Fydoo, 389 00:19:19,120 --> 00:19:21,440 a fully automatic, self-cleaning toilet for dogs. 390 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:22,920 What? 391 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,320 And it has changed the way that we look after our furry little friends. 392 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:30,560 So, how Fydoo works is, connect it to a waste drain, 393 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,040 connect it to a water source, 394 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,560 drop in the sanitiser discs, that are specially formulated, 395 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:40,440 and the grass rotates with the waste into the cleaning chamber... 396 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,200 Oh, the poop goes in there! 397 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,360 Yeah, where the high-pressure water jets dissolve the sanitiser, 398 00:19:45,360 --> 00:19:46,960 applying it to the grass, 399 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,920 then the high-pressure jet rinses the toilet. 400 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,400 Wow. 401 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,400 Um, people are quite time-poor these days, 402 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:58,160 especially with more and more people living in apartments, townhouses 403 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,120 or homes without backyards. 404 00:20:00,120 --> 00:20:04,600 Sharks, let's work together and let Fydoo clean up after their dogs, 405 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,560 so they don't have to. 406 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,000 Sounds expensive. 407 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,520 It has been expensive for me. 408 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,000 How much is the unit? 409 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,200 It's retailing for $1,299. 410 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,040 Then what does it cost you to make? 411 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,520 $225. 412 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,320 Incredible margin. 413 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,640 DAVIE: So, where are you at with the business? 414 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,000 Like, where... Have you got sales? 415 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,360 VOICEOVER: Sebastian's business has the Sharks intrigued. 416 00:20:32,360 --> 00:20:36,920 Dog-lover Davie Fogarty already owns pet-related brands, 417 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,720 so will he show interest in this dog-friendly innovation? 418 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,000 Uh, this is actually V2 version of the Fydoo dog toilet. 419 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,560 Um, the V1 version, we went to pre-sale. 420 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:52,280 Generated, um, nearly $200,000 worth of pre-revenue sales. 421 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,320 Wow. There were about 100 units sold. 422 00:20:54,320 --> 00:21:00,000 Um, and unfortunately, when we were pushing go-time, 423 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,960 uh, to go to manufacturing, 424 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:03,760 uh, we weren't quite ready, 425 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,320 so I had to refund the customer money. 426 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,120 (HUGO WHINES) 427 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,320 Do you need help with Hugo? 428 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,600 Yeah, I think I might, um... 429 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,800 ..let him go to the toilet. 430 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,080 Oh, you gotta go at the elevator. Come on. 431 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:21,640 See you, Hugo! Bye, Hugo. 432 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,720 See you, Hugo. Good job, buddy. 433 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,760 Awww! 434 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,360 Sorry, guys. Oh, man! 435 00:21:30,360 --> 00:21:32,040 Come. Good boy. 436 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:34,960 So, Sebastian, 437 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,480 what are your sales? 438 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:40,480 So, we've only not long finished this product, 439 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,440 so I haven't gone to pre-sale... 440 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,400 You haven't sold this yet? 441 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,360 Not yet. Not the V2. 442 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,720 When you were selling version 1... 443 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,360 ..how did you collect cash up-front? 444 00:21:58,360 --> 00:22:00,080 Was it a crowd-funding? 445 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,760 No, it was, um, pre-payment. 446 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,640 So you got people to pay you up-front with the order? 447 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,200 Yep, I did. 448 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:10,880 Wow. 449 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,000 And has V2 arrived yet? 450 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,280 Is it in Australia? Uh, no. 451 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:19,640 So, V2 will go to production once I seek funding. 452 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,400 The really obvious question for me... 453 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,120 ..why not just call those 100 people and sell it to them 454 00:22:27,120 --> 00:22:29,160 and say, "Guys, I'm ready!"? 455 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,000 Yeah. 456 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,840 You know, I didn't want to feel like I'm doing the wrong thing to people. 457 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,880 I just want to have the product and then I can just sell it. 458 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,040 Seb, it sounds to me that you might have been a bit scarred 459 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,280 by what happened before - is that right? 460 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,720 Yeah. Look, there has been times where I've wanted to give up. 461 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:55,000 You know, um, it's played on my mental health, 462 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,680 it's impacted relationships, 463 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,280 it's...it's really been a difficult path 464 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:06,600 and I've just persevered because, you know, I believe in my product. 465 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,120 I've spent over $350,000 myself... 466 00:23:10,120 --> 00:23:11,600 SHARKS: Wow. 467 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,440 ..so I'm all in. 468 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,840 I've secured patents and IPs, trademarks, 469 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,040 design registrations across the globe, 470 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,440 covering 52 points of protection 471 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,400 and now I'm here. 472 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,040 Sebastian, you know, business is a contact sport. 473 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:29,760 Yeah. 474 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,680 If you're gonna be successful, 475 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,520 you're gonna get bloodied and you're gonna get bruised along the way. 476 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:35,880 Yeah. 477 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,440 I don't know if this is a retail product or not. 478 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,040 It doesn't feel right for me. I'm out. 479 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,880 OK. Thank you. 480 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,560 Hey, Sebastian. I think this product can really be revolutionary. 481 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,760 But having never owned a pet in my life, 482 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,880 probably not the right business for me to invest in, 483 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,080 so for that reason, I'm out. 484 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,040 Thank you. 485 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,000 Sebastian, I'm a high-tech entrepreneur. 486 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,800 I build AI, I build robots 487 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,240 and...I don't think I'm the best Shark for you. 488 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,160 I'm out. 489 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:13,840 Thank you. 490 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,000 I'm still um-ing and ah-ing. We can wait for you. 491 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,200 This one's a difficult one... 492 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,400 ..because I truly believe 493 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:39,240 that you have something that has huge mass-market appeal. 494 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,680 The challenge that I have is that... 495 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,200 as you stand in front of us today, 496 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,880 you don't have a product that you can sell. 497 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,360 OK. 498 00:24:52,360 --> 00:24:54,240 So for that reason, I'm out. 499 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,120 Thank you. Thank you. 500 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,800 Then there was one. 501 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,320 Your story's really touching. 502 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,000 I think it's pretty clear 503 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,880 that you've been through a hard path the past three years - 504 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,000 you know, you've brought that story up - and that's OK. 505 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,560 Like, we've all failed. I've got a very similar story. 506 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,640 A lot of people don't know, like, I almost lost all of my businesses, 507 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,240 I couldn't get out of bed, 508 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,280 I was having panic attacks every single day... 509 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:24,760 Yeah. 510 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,560 ..and it takes a toll. 511 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,200 So I'm gonna give you two offers. 512 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:31,240 Whoa. 513 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,000 And these two offers will... 514 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,520 it'll allow you to choose your destiny. 515 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,760 The first one 516 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,200 is $250,000... 517 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,040 for 45%, 518 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,320 because you really need business help. 519 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,080 OK? You really do need business help and you need manufacturing help. 520 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,680 Yep. 521 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,440 The other offer 522 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,320 is half a million dollars 523 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,000 for the entire business. 524 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,800 What?! 525 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,480 Ooh, I love it. 526 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:09,960 Oh! 527 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:24,000 VOICEOVER: Sebastian entered the Tank seeking a $250,000 investment 528 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,000 for a 20% share of his business. 529 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,440 He finds himself in an unusual position, 530 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,520 with not one but two offers from Davie Fogarty. 531 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,240 DAVIE: The first one is $250,000 532 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,360 for 45%. 533 00:26:40,360 --> 00:26:41,840 The other offer 534 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,000 is half a million dollars 535 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,520 for the entire business. 536 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,360 What?! 537 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,560 Ooh, I love it. Oh! 538 00:26:55,360 --> 00:26:57,000 On the... 539 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,920 buying it out... 540 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,200 ..straight away, that's a no for me. 541 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,760 I love it. That's what I wanted to hear. 542 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,720 Perfect answer. 543 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,400 The value that you could bring is... invaluable. 544 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,640 I've sold tens of millions of dollars of pet products myself. 545 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,440 I understand this market. 546 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,440 Do you think you could do it for... 547 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,400 30%? 548 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,600 It's too...it's too low, 549 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,360 because you haven't got a product to market yet 550 00:27:34,360 --> 00:27:38,000 and that means that it's gonna be a lot of work for me 551 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,440 and therefore, I understand the value that I bring, 552 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,280 so 30% is a no. 553 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,000 OK. 554 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,560 I can do 40%. 555 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,480 For $250,000? For $250,000. 556 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,840 And that's the best that you can do? That's the best I can do. 557 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,800 Done. Yes! 558 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,680 We're gonna make so many of these things! 559 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,400 Thanks, Davie. Awesome. I can't wait to help you. 560 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,720 I really appreciate it. Thank you. It's a great product. 561 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,160 We'll chat soon. Thank you. 562 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,680 Well done. Thank you. 563 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,440 Great job. 564 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,680 It's an incredible win for Sebastian. 565 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:33,320 He's secured himself a $250,000 investment in Fydoo 566 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:34,840 from Davie Fogarty. 567 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,880 Uh, Davie loved the product 568 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,800 and he was the one that I wanted. 569 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,920 Kind of hasn't sunk in yet. 570 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:54,520 Next up to face the Sharks are 27-year-old designer Ryan Tilley 571 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,120 and Paralympian Bryce Allman, 572 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,120 who are looking for an investment 573 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,000 to help revolutionise the wheelchair market. 574 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,520 You got this. We got this. Let's go. 575 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,040 Here we go. 576 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:20,880 G'day, Sharks. 577 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,400 We're Ryan and Bryce 578 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,160 and we're building the slickest wheelchairs on the planet. 579 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:31,040 We're here today looking for $350,000 5% equity in our company. 580 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:32,480 Oh, wow. 581 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,280 My life changed in an instant. 582 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,600 When I was younger and not so smart... 583 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,640 ..a day at the beach 584 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,200 and a bad decision to dive into a breaking wave... 585 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,400 ..resulted in me hitting a sandbar, 586 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,240 breaking my neck... 587 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,000 ..and leaving me quadriplegic. 588 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,000 And from that day on, I had to adapt to a life in a wheelchair 589 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:04,000 and, uh, was unable to continue an engineering apprenticeship 590 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,440 and I actually took up pursuit of wheelchair rugby 591 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,200 and had a 10-year career representing Australia 592 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,000 and was lucky enough to go to three Paralympics. 593 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,760 Wow. 594 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,440 What we're doing with our Rove brand 595 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,480 is changing the way chairs are perceived 596 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:22,440 and hopefully creating a chair that becomes an extension of the user. 597 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:25,760 So, as a result, 598 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,040 we built the world's first 3D-printed titanium wheelchair. 599 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,440 One of our biggest advocates and supporter 600 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,120 has got a few words to say. 601 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,320 Go, Sharks! It's Dylan Alcott here. Oh, wow. 602 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,000 Sitting in my Rove wheelchair. 603 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,280 I've been in this wheelchair for about seven months 604 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,640 and it is the best wheelchair that I've ever had. 605 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,600 I like the product so much, I've actually invested into Rove as well. 606 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,480 I believe in the team. 607 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,000 I believe in Bryce, I believe in Ryan and it's a disability-led company. 608 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,400 We really appreciate the opportunity to pitch to you today 609 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,600 and hopefully we can all start working together soon. 610 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,480 That's awesome. You could... Well, I'm gonna clap him in. 611 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,680 You could not have got a better spokesperson. 612 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,840 So, Ryan and Bryce, I'm Cat. 613 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,400 Thank you for a really great pitch. 614 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:16,440 Talk to us about what a wheelchair sells for. 615 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,000 A typical Rove wheelchair will sell for around $16,000. 616 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,680 How much did it cost you to make? 617 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,440 Costs us about $6,500 to make it. 618 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,560 We've been trading now, commercially, 619 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,320 for just over 12 months 620 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,760 and we're approaching now half a million dollars in sales. 621 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,000 Yeah, probably the best thing about our chair 622 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,240 is it's designed by people with a disability 623 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,000 for people with a disability. 624 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,520 50% of our staff are active chair users. 625 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,000 By the way, 626 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,720 I'm a big car guy. 627 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:51,480 You know, um, titanium is like porn to me. 628 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,120 Like, you know, all my cars, 629 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,120 I'm like, "Can I get more titanium on this thing?" 630 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,480 These things are beautiful. 631 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,000 So, this is the technology that we're using. 632 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,680 So, inside the parts is, like, a lattice structure. 633 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,720 VOICEOVER: To make these titanium parts using 3D printing 634 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,600 is incredible, cutting-edge technology. 635 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,040 That's what allows us to reduce the mass and keep it super-strong. 636 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,000 Are they carbon fibre also? Yes. 637 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,240 You can feel the frame weight. DAVIE: That's incredible. 638 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,480 Oh, my... Oh, man! 639 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,640 Pass it around. This is unbelievable! 640 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,800 Look at it! This is the actual frame you're on? 641 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,240 BRYCE: Yeah. 642 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,800 Obviously, you've gotta add the fittings and fixtures and the wheels. 643 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,320 So, you've got your carbon fibre 644 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,760 and then all of these are 3D-printed titanium parts 645 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,280 and that gives you the frame. 646 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,360 And so these are significantly lighter, are they, 647 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,440 than existing wheelchairs that are on the market? 648 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:41,960 Yep. Yep. 649 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,960 And stronger? And stronger. 650 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,840 Whoo! 651 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,600 How do you two know each other? 652 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,960 I actually developed a wheelchair product 653 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,920 that allowed wheelchairs to go on the beach, 654 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,800 as part of my university project. 655 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,280 Wow. 656 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,040 I started selling it. Bryce was one of the agents. 657 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,040 We met and I pitched to him back in 2020, 658 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,440 like, "Do you want to do a lightweight Australian chair?" 659 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:03,920 And he was all in. 660 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,040 What about the National Disability Insurance Scheme? 661 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,520 If I...have a disability 662 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,840 and I'm registered with NDIS and I want to buy a wheelchair... 663 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,920 Definitely. So how does that work? 664 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,720 NDIS covers everyone with a disability under 65 in Australia 665 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,000 but for example, if you've had a traffic accident, 666 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,960 then you would probably be covered by, like, um, TACs. 667 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,360 What percentage of the cost of a wheelchair, 668 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:26,960 or up to what dollar amount... 669 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,600 100%. 100%. 670 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,880 Regardless of how much I spend? Yep. 671 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,520 If I buy your wheelchair... Within reason. 672 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:38,000 It's gotta be deemed by the NDIS 673 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,520 to be reasonable and necessary 674 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,880 and so they have to go through a series of steps, 675 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,600 including involving a therapist. 676 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,880 VOICEOVER: Ryan and Bryce have provided all the answers 677 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,440 to the Sharks' questions 678 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:56,400 but Robert Herjavec has concerns about the product's path to market. 679 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,400 Here's the challenge - it's so complicated, 680 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,880 because not only do you have to sell to the retailers - 681 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,440 you have to get approved by the co-payees 682 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,000 or the insurance companies, 683 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,040 so you're...you have to sell to multiple people, 684 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,280 just to get the product in the retailer 685 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:14,840 to be approved. 686 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,440 Sure. 687 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,120 All I'm seeing is risk. 688 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,000 Why not sell the technology 689 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,160 instead of being in the wheelchair business? 690 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:29,640 We have had several of the larger multinational companies 691 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,840 that are in North America and in Europe 692 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,320 already interested in our system. 693 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:36,880 That might be a path. 694 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,360 There's just so much potential. Right. 695 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,040 Like, the wheelchair market is, like, 696 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,200 still very traditionally, like, medical, sterile - 697 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,040 it's ripe for some disruption, 698 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,600 as far as making it cool and consumer-led. 699 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,000 $350,000, 5%, um... 700 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,000 My life changed in an instant. 701 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,760 What are you gonna do, Robert? 702 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,000 VOICEOVER: Rove co-founders Ryan and Bryce 703 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,640 are planning to disrupt the disability market 704 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,480 with their 3D-printed wheelchair. 705 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,800 Robert Herjavec has commended their innovation 706 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:34,480 but will he invest the $350,000 707 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,520 the pair is looking to secure? 708 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,480 Uh, I... 709 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,000 really think you have an incredible business and mission, 710 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:47,400 uh, but there's so many people you have to sell this to. 711 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,400 Guys, I... 712 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,760 I'm not the right Shark, right now. 713 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,280 I'm out. RYAN: Thank you. 714 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,520 Look, it's so impressive, what you've done. 715 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,040 I think I'm learning more from you 716 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,000 than what I can probably help you with. 717 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,280 For that reason, I'm out 718 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,400 but I hope you get a deal from someone else. 719 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,000 Thank you. I appreciate it. Thanks, Jane. 720 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,120 VOICEOVER: With two Sharks out, 721 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:16,280 Davie Fogarty's keen to know more about Rove's slick look. 722 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,360 DAVIE: Now, I've gotta ask - the branding's so beautiful. 723 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,040 Beautiful. Who was in charge of that? 724 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:23,680 That was me. That's incredible. 725 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,240 Did you use an agency for it, or... 726 00:36:25,240 --> 00:36:27,760 Um, my background's in industrial design and mechanical engineering, 727 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,320 so I've been responsible 728 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,280 for the development and everything of the product. 729 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,240 The logo, the colour... Logo and everything. 730 00:36:33,240 --> 00:36:35,440 What a dream team! This is great. 731 00:36:41,240 --> 00:36:43,080 It's a tough one, guys, 732 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,080 because you've got such a great product 733 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,880 and you've...you're such great founders as well. 734 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,520 My concern is, I feel like this is a really important mission for you. 735 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,760 I'm certain you guys are going to be successful but... 736 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,880 just not with me, so for those reasons, I'm out. 737 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:01,440 Thanks, Davie. Thanks, guys. 738 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:02,920 BRYCE: Cheers. 739 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,560 CAT: Ryan and Bryce, 740 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,480 look, I'm in AI and the metaverse, 741 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,320 so this stage of the business is a little early, 742 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,080 'cause you're not using any AI 743 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:13,680 but I do just recommend, 744 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,200 just take Dylan and just flog him everywhere, right? 745 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,440 He's your greatest brand and sales ambassador, 746 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,480 uh, but unfortunately... 747 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,520 ..I'm out. 748 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,320 Thank you. Thanks, Catriona. 749 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:33,200 VOICEOVER: So any investment opportunity lies with Sabri Suby. 750 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,840 Will he see something in Rove the other Sharks haven't? 751 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,240 I am so impressed with you guys 752 00:37:41,240 --> 00:37:44,560 and the product is phenomenal. 753 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,600 Where you sit right now, 754 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,440 how do you do a direct-to-consumer play with this product? 755 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,760 Seeing your comments around, you know, 756 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,400 the percentage of chairs that are covered by the NDIS 757 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,000 I see that is gonna be the main purchaser 758 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,680 and the main path to actually sell this thing. 759 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,440 Regrettably, I'm gonna have to be out. 760 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,640 Oh, I appreciate your honesty. I wish you all the best. 761 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,440 Thanks, Sabri. Thank you. 762 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,360 DAVIE: Thanks, guys. Good luck with it. 763 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,000 Good luck. 764 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,680 VOICEOVER: A disappointing end to a promising pitch. 765 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,480 Ryan and Bryce leave the Tank empty-handed. 766 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,920 Damn. 767 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,480 I had it all mapped out and I was like... 768 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,120 Same. 769 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,480 I think it's gonna take 5 to 10 years to get your money back. 770 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,280 Would you agree? Longer. 771 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,000 Longer. 772 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,600 Yeah, it's a challenge. 773 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,200 Yeah, we had great reception from all five Sharks 774 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:48,240 but yeah, a little disappointed that none of them took the bait. 775 00:38:48,240 --> 00:38:50,000 After you. 776 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,560 Not getting an investment today 777 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,760 is not gonna stop what we're doing, you know? 778 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,480 We love what we do and we're keen to expand 779 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,000 and excited to see what the future holds. 780 00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:11,840 WOMAN: We're feeling a little nervous about being on Shark Tank. 781 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,840 VOICEOVER: The final entrepreneurs to face the Sharks 782 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:21,400 are mother-and-daughter duo Tara Croker and Mel Davy. 783 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,240 We organically created a product 784 00:39:24,240 --> 00:39:27,800 over many years of playing plant-ladies together. 785 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,000 Yiradhu marang, Sharks. 786 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,120 I'm Tara and this is Mel. 787 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:50,760 We're a mother-and-daughter team 788 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,200 and we're the founders of Yaala Sparkling. 789 00:39:54,240 --> 00:39:59,880 We're here today seeking $125,000 for a 10% stake in our company. 790 00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:01,400 Wow. 791 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,200 Yaala Sparkling is an Indigenous-owned business 792 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,000 that creates premium and healthy drinks, 793 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,720 sourced from Indigenous wild harvesters and local farmers. 794 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,920 I'm a proud Wiradjuri woman and in my language, 795 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,160 'yaala' means 'the present moment'. 796 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,200 Ah! 797 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,840 MEL: Our drinks are sugar-free and completely natural. 798 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,520 Yaala Sparkling recipes have been 12 months in development 799 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,080 and over 80,000 years in the making. 800 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,000 Yeah, nice. 801 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,920 We've just self-launched our website 802 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,680 and we've already sold over 700 bottles in just a few weeks. 803 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,360 Nice. 804 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,040 Sharks, this is more than just a drink. 805 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,760 This is a journey through the flavours of our land 806 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,520 and we'd love you to join us. 807 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,560 Well, can we try some first? 808 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,280 Yes, absolutely. 809 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,000 Looks amazing. 810 00:40:55,240 --> 00:40:57,760 Jane, there you go. What flavour should I try? 811 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,280 So, this one's lemon myrtle and native blossom 812 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,760 and then the pink one is Davidson plum and waratah. 813 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,160 Thank you so much. Cheers. 814 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,880 Maybe green to go with the dress. Thanks, Tara. 815 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,960 Beautiful. SABRI: Pink, to match my eyes. 816 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,520 Yeah! Thank you. 817 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,320 Cheers, Jane. Cheers, Robbo. 818 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:17,920 Oh, that's good! 819 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,400 What does a bottle cost? 820 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,120 So, the bottle costs $5.50. 821 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,000 Oh, it tastes so good! 822 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,360 Costs us to make, $1.70. 823 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,680 What do you sell to distribution for? 824 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,680 Per bottle is $3.20. 825 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,800 It's good. It's not too sweet at all. It's nice and subtle. 826 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,800 And very dry and nice on the palate. 827 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,320 So, what makes it sweet? 828 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,400 Uh, it's naturally sweet - with that lemon myrtle, you may taste... 829 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,360 You haven't used, like, a stevia or a xylitol in this, right? 830 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:50,920 So that's why it doesn't have 831 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,600 that really shallow, like, spike of sweetness. 832 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,720 Correct, yeah. So nothing artificial. It's all natural. 833 00:41:56,720 --> 00:41:59,120 It tastes great. Very nice. 834 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,080 Thank you. We're so glad to hear that. 835 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,240 The sweetness is actually... it comes from the leaf. 836 00:42:04,240 --> 00:42:05,800 Like, it's got that citrus flavour 837 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,600 that you're used to with a lemon or a lime 838 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,960 but it's different - it's softer and sweeter from a native plant. 839 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,880 You get the florally taste from the blossoms in both of them. 840 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,520 There's drinks that are, like... 841 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,560 there's, like, a tea that's not too sweet - 842 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,240 that's quite popular 843 00:42:21,240 --> 00:42:23,000 and there's nothing like this in Australia. 844 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,120 I'd love to hear about how you guys started. 845 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,520 So, Mum and I have always been really passionate about plants 846 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:32,800 and we just kind of organically, through playing around with plants 847 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,000 and wanting to share those flavours, 848 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,680 and we just kind of made loads of drinks, just similar to this, 849 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,200 at home, 850 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:40,880 'cause you can put a lot of the ingredients 851 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,520 just straight into hot water and it'll become a delicious tea. 852 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,200 There's definitely nothing like that out there in the market, 853 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,240 which is, um, yeah, kind of mind-blowing, 854 00:42:48,240 --> 00:42:51,000 considering we're in Australia and it's Australian plants, right? 855 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,440 I'm Cat, by the way. 856 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,000 I do a fair amount of plant medicine 857 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,440 and since that, have not been able to drink alcohol 858 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,800 and now look for something that I can drink that's not kombucha, 859 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,920 'cause that's the only other one that's not, like, a super-sweet one. 860 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,840 So I think this is... pretty impressive. 861 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,480 Thank you. Thank you. 862 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,440 Hey, Tara and Mel. 863 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,600 I'd like to hear a little bit about you guys. 864 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,480 Can you give us a little bit of the backstory? 865 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:24,280 My background is, um, product development 866 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,920 in IT and fashion accessories 867 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,480 I still currently work full-time for Google in marketing and... 868 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,760 Oh, you work for Google? Yeah. 869 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,360 I'm the biggest security partner for Google in the world. 870 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,920 Ah, wow. That's already a partnership there! 871 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,480 (LAUGHTER) 872 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,640 So, I've been in marketing for the last 10 years 873 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,200 and yeah, I'm really passionate 874 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,080 about everything related to marketing. 875 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,800 So, with your marketing background, 876 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,800 how have you marketed this business so far? 877 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,000 Yeah, good question. 878 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,960 We...I've been focusing more 879 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,000 on doing the manufacturing and production. 880 00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,640 Um... 881 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,360 so, um, we haven't really done, um, any marketing yet. 882 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,000 Really? 883 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:12,880 So, how do we know that this is going to sell, without sales data? 884 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,280 VOICEOVER: Don't miss a single pitch or project - 885 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,440 watch full episodes of Shark Tank Australia 886 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,000 on 10Play. 887 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,920 How have you marketed this business so far? 888 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:41,840 Um... 889 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,560 ..we haven't really done any marketing yet. 890 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,200 VOICEOVER: Sparkling drinks founders Tara and Mel 891 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,000 are being grilled by the Sharks 892 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,720 over their marketing. 893 00:44:54,720 --> 00:44:57,160 So, we've just set up our Instagram page 894 00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,000 and also LinkedIn page, 895 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,560 um... 896 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,640 and then... 897 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,800 So, what is the go-to-market strategy for this? 898 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,960 We really want to position this 899 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:12,000 as that premium, um, healthy alternative to alcohol, 900 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,200 a special-occasion drink. 901 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:18,400 Launching to market, we're really looking at aligning our brand 902 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:22,280 to higher-end hotels or higher-end restaurants, cafes, 903 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,000 so that we can establish our brand in that position. 904 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,400 And who's gonna do that work? 905 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,240 Do you have a team? 906 00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:32,000 It's just us in the business - Mum's full-time in the business. 907 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:33,880 I assume, at a certain point, Tara, 908 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,320 you're gonna transition into the business. 909 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,000 That would be the idea, yeah. Definitely the dream. 910 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,680 What would you do with the $125,000? 911 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,680 What we need at the moment is product. 912 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,400 Been holding back a little bit 913 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,000 in terms of, um, a sales date for the product being available, 914 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,600 because we need the production there to be able to service that. 915 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,280 My concern is... 916 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:55,880 ..the hustle part - 917 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,200 someone's gotta go out there, calling the cafes, get it out there. 918 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,000 I think that's...missing for me. 919 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,080 Who's gonna do that? 920 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,160 Only for that reason, I'm out. 921 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:09,680 Thank you, Robert. Thank you. 922 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,480 I'm very impressed and delighted 923 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,800 that we're seeing Indigenous-run and owned business 924 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,920 with Indigenous product, with Indigenous story coming to market 925 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,840 and I'm very interested in investing in this business. 926 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,640 But what I'm gonna look for 927 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:31,680 is probably a partner with one of the Sharks - 928 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,640 and there are three sitting with me 929 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:39,800 who are actually very, very good at taking product to market. 930 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,000 Hmm. 931 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,240 If you spend $100,000 on stock, 932 00:46:47,240 --> 00:46:50,240 I'd want to know if you're going to hustle 933 00:46:50,240 --> 00:46:53,520 and find these cafes and stores to sell it to. 934 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,280 And with you working full-time, I think that's part of it as well. 935 00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:57,920 What's the plan there? 936 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,160 For as long as we need to, we'll be out there, knocking on doors. 937 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,840 And we will make this work, 'cause this is our dream. 938 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,520 Yeah. There's... 939 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,680 I'm struggling to see the D to C play. 940 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,200 Without a doubt, the path that you're going down, 941 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,240 I believe that is 100% the play for you 942 00:47:15,240 --> 00:47:17,320 but I just can't add a lot of value in that. 943 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,520 So for those reasons, I'm out. 944 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,200 Thanks, Sabri. Thanks, Sabri. 945 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:28,760 Every week, I'm seeing these brands just go out of business, 946 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,280 trying to raise more money, 947 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,400 so the profit-per-bottle just doesn't work for that space, 948 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,480 so for that reason, I'm out. 949 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,120 Thanks, Davie. 950 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:48,480 At a $1.25 million valuation... 951 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:53,000 ..I just don't have the certainty of the business. 952 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,560 I believe Indigenous businesses should be run by Indigenous people 953 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,200 and I would want an arrangement 954 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,240 whereby that investment could be paid back 955 00:48:03,240 --> 00:48:05,040 and you earn the equity back. 956 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,280 And what value would you work that out at? 957 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,000 I think the valuation is...too high. 958 00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,840 So, let's start with $125,000 between the two of us... 959 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,440 30%. 960 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,520 Yes. Whew! 961 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,120 But we'll... 962 00:48:26,240 --> 00:48:28,320 ..we can come down with royalties. 963 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,560 So after all this talk about it being kumbaya, 964 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,120 you guys are savages! 965 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:35,640 But there's no... 966 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,760 We've sold 700 bottles! DAVIE: Royalties AND 30%! 967 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,880 That's a sharky offer. 968 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,000 Once we make our investment back, 969 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,680 we'll come down to... 970 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,280 15% between the two of us. 971 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,040 So 7.5% each. 972 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:52,840 JANE: Yeah. Wow. 973 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,560 I think 30% is a little too high - 974 00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,080 would you consider dropping down to... 975 00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:00,960 20? 976 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,240 I'll do it. I'll do it. 977 00:49:13,240 --> 00:49:14,920 Let's do it! 978 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,400 DAVIE: You got a deal! 979 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,200 VOICEOVER: They've done it! 980 00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:22,400 Tara and Mel have secured $125,000 981 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,280 for a 20% share of Yaala 982 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,240 with not one but two Sharks. 983 00:49:28,240 --> 00:49:29,880 You've got good partners. 984 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:34,680 VOICEOVER: And they could not be happier with their all-girl team. 985 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,040 Oh, my god! Oh! 986 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,560 We're so excited to have them on board with us. 987 00:49:42,720 --> 00:49:46,760 Working with Cat and Jane is just a dream come true. 988 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,240 Yeah. 989 00:49:49,240 --> 00:49:52,240 Captions by Red Bee Media