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- What the hell you want, man?
- There's nothing more exciting
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- than seeing The Saint of Killers.
- Yeah.
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100% most excited to see that.
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We're gonna be ramping
into like a big project
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and we're gonna be
carving out time,
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just to come down to see it.
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Partially to help,
but mostly
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- 'cause I wanna see it.
- I just wanna see it.
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It felt like we had to have
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The Saint of Killers
in season one,
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but we also knew that Jesse was gonna be
in a stationary place
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pretty much in season one.
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We couldn't have Jesse standing still
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and The Saint of Killers
on his ass,
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because Jesse would be dead.
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He is the angel of death
in Garth's comics.
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I was a massive fan of the books
and of this character,
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so to be standing here like this
is extraordinary really.
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The story that Sam and Evan
and Seth had adapted
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really from the comic books, and we're
gonna account for his behavior in our show.
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To me it was all about
the humanity of it
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and justifying
to a certain degree,
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why his behavior is what it is.
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And give me one where you give him
no choice in the matter.
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You have to go.
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And cut it.
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The moment
where he leaves behind
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the pistols and the sword,
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I think tells you
that this is a man
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that he's trying
to leave behind.
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He makes a choice to kind of
try to help people
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that maybe otherwise
you wouldn't try to help,
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and because of that
he loses everything.
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Cut it!
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He is a Civil War veteran
who fought for the South.
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Gettysburg, third day,
Pickett's Charge.
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Graham McTavish
is the perfect choice for us,
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for Saint of Killers,
he is an extraordinary actor,
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he's worked in so many
different genres.
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Don't.
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We only have four days here
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to tell the Ratwater
Saint of Killers story,
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we also hired a second unit
director, so while we're here,
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we have two units working
all the time for 12 hours a day.
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It's a little frontier town.
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It's kind of like Anneville,
in that it's damned,
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it's just kind of like
that bad town with a bad vibe.
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It's the only way
of making money
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is from scalps being traded in
which is horrible.
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Do you agree, yes or no,
that this is paradise?
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It ain't.
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I've had people working
on that tree
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for a solid two weeks,
because the tree was a big full tree
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with all the little leaves
and branches, it looked pretty.
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Now I have to make it evil.
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We can assume that there was
a settlement before Ratwater
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that was destroyed,
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and obviously
there's a settlement
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after Ratwater that is destroyed.
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Around the edges and the peripheries
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there's demons and it's hell.
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This is I think
a full cow skeleton,
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and these bones have not been cleaned,
they are the real deal.
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These are actually replicas
of real whale skulls, they're rotocast.
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The unfortunate thing is we could have done
this couple days ago,
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- but there are bands of coyotes.
- And they will eat the bones
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- and take 'em away.
- Yeah.
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There's the classic hell of like,
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oh, you just get tortured
or flayed or whatever.
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But you need to experience
the highest, experience the lows,
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and just like
taking your own memories
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and using them against you
is like trapping you.
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Your own mistakes,
your own things.
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And when it's your own stuff,
it's just gonna eat you up
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way worse than any exterior pain.
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Action!
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This is shadow and he's gonna do
a lot of the pecking at the doll.
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We usually use a laser pointer.
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We'll shine the laser on their nose
and then they'll hit the nose,
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and then you don't have to use the laser
and they note that and hit that spot.
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I love the horrible discovery,
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the crows flying out
of the chimney pot.
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Snatching up the pistols
and the saber,
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and going back to Ratwater,
this time with, uh,
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a rather more grim mission in mind.
I thought they nailed that perfectly.
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The walker 44's are, uh, cannons,
they're enormous.
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Um, there's no getting away from it,
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and I think they weigh about
seven or eight pounds each.
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These are things
that he lived with
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for many, many, many,
many years, they're old friends.
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So we were able to source
an officer's sword from the Civil War.
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From the antique dealer,
I saw the nicks on the blade,
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I thought maybe
it was just a kid having fun
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banging it against the wall.
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And then I noticed on the handle,
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it's actually been used as defense.
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Double gun belt,
as we can see in the comic.
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I think most fans will see this
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and think that you know
we totally nailed it.
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They've aged my face.
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This isn't how old
I normally look,
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I'm really at spritely 25.
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They've put weathering
all over my face and my eyes
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to give that
just lived-in quality.
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I think of his character
as a man who's seen too much.
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But it's really based on the coats they were
wearing during the Civil War,
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it ended only 15 years before Ratwater.
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Hi!
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Can I borrow your vest?
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We've come to the school
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and the shadow
falls across them.
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I honestly thought, well,
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that can't be
the Saint of Killers.
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But it is
and he does kill those children.
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They're back weighted,
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so when these things
come tumbling
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out of the cowboy's
makeshift bag,
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they'll actually feel like
they have mass and weight
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and they hobble out and of course
they'll leave a trail of blood,
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and it will be pretty visceral.
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He's a force of nature,
he is a killing machine
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based out of great anger and grief.
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He can join us all in hell.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa!
Alright then.
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I've been here
for a few weeks now,
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and all I've been waiting for
is the chance to get this on
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and get inside there
and do that.
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The actual killing takes place
with me as essentially the camera.
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The actual push in
with all our stunts getting shot
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is about a 14-second move.
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Everything has to be choreographed,
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no one can be late, no one can be early
or we'll miss it.
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For the one where we're
squibbing nine people,
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there was questions you know
if we we're hitting anything else,
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you know like the bar, bottles,
or anything breaking in the background.
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The response we got is as okay,
does not miss,
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so everybody dies.
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Not only are squibs are going off,
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but we've got breakaway tables
that are light that trips,
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we've got the bar shaking,
we've got bottles droppin',
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there's a lot of elements there.
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We use a CGI stunt crop,
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where we put green on the tip
and we slice.
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3, 2, 1.
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When I was a kid
that was the coolest character
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- I ever read, period.
- Yeah.