- Previously, on The Real Housewives of Potomac Reunion...
- You look like a very handsome
limousine driver, by the way.
- Hi, Miss Dixon. Uh, can I take those? Okay.
- Oh, Lord. Oh, my gosh.
- Chris, uh, this year, a woman came out online
and claimed she had an affair with you
and even had an abortion for you.
Then, a few weeks later,
said she made the whole thing up.
Have you ever met the person?
- No.
- So, the screenshots of your limp penis
are photoshopped?
- When Gordon reached out to our husbands--
- In a group chat.
- He called you everything but a child of God.
- It was horrible. - It was viscous.
- All of a sudden, he's "ahh" at me.
I wake up, and all of my money is at zero.
It's controlling.
- Well, Andy, first off, I appreciate the opportunity
to address this. - Okay.
- I know this great friend group has questions,
but I wanna share something with you that, uh,
some of you may have suspected
but many of you probably don't know.
- Tonight, the three-part reunion concludes.
- I have been diagnosed with a mental illness,
bipolar I.
- Wow.
- And the difference between bipolar and bipolar I,
is really the degree of manic
that you have. - Okay.
- And if there was a bipolar II--
- Can I-- can I have a tissue? [indistinct]
- It's okay, Mia.
- If there was a bipolar II, or III, or IV,
quite frankly, I would have those.
- Really? Wow.
- Bipolar, in and of itself,
causes your mind to really work opposite,
and your mind tricks you into sayin' you are normal.
Everyone else is slow or lazy.
- When were you diagnosed?
- I was diagnosed, Mia, two and a half years-ish ago.
- I bet that explained a lot.
- What I began to realize, is that
as early as my early 20s, I've had this.
- Mmm, yeah. - And I could remember
episodes over the course of my life.
But here-here's the thing that's really,
uh, key to this.
My manic got worse over the years,
as I gained more control,
more power, more money.
- Mmm.
Now that you've been diagnosed,
is there medication that can even you out?
- Yeah, there's medication, Andy,
but what I have learned,
is that a key to controlling this
is not-not the medication exclusively.
You have to go the rest of the way yourself.
So, first thing you gotta do, is understand the behaviors
that are the beginning of going into a manic episode.
- Mm-hmm. - Mania builds.
- Uh-huh. - And then at a certain--
- And can you see it coming? - I cannot.
- Mia can. - Right. I cannot.
- Oh, wow. - But people around you can.
- And if she sees it coming, can she say to you,
"G, this is happening?"
- Correct.
- And will you take that in, though?
- Prior-prior to our separation,
she had said to me a few times. - No.
- And I didn't listen. - Right.
When you reached out to the other gentlemen
and were texting them about what was happening
in your marriage-- - Oh, I was deep into mania.
- You were.
- And it was exaggerated by my frustration and my anger.
- When you locked Mia in the room...
- Locked her in the room?
- You locked her in the room.
- And took my cell phone, Gordon.
- I took the cell phone. - And took her cell phone.
- I did take-- I-I don't remember locking her in the room.
- Okay. Okay. - I remember taking the cell.
And part of what happens when you have mania,
you really don't remember everything.
- Yes. - So, I'm not saying I didn't,
but I don't remember locking her in a room,
but I did take the cell phone.
- Do you believe that she was having an affair?
- During the marriage, yes.
Duration of it, no.
- Okay.
- Let me-- let me just say this.
- Yes.
- Mia has been absolutely wonderful.
And you may say, why do you say that
when this other stuff was happening?
First off, whatever's gone on, I forgive her,
and she's forgiven me.
- Okay.
- I fully believe, had I gotten control
of this manic behavior sooner, Mia would still be with me.
I don't think she left me
because she wanted to be someplace else.
- Mm-hmm.
- She left me because she couldn't take this anymore.
- Right.
[clears throat]
- Can I have a tissue?
- Don't cry.
- Yeah, there you go, buddy.
[sighs]
- Excuse me. - You okay?
- Ehh, it is what it is.
Things got so bad and so low for me,
I went to the hospital to check myself in.
- Wow.
- The next morning, guess who was there.
Mia.
She showed up the next morning.
- That's really amazing. - Make sure that I,
you know, had everything I need.
Left and went to get me a change of clothes.
- Yeah.
- My-my place was 70 miles away.
She came to see me, I believe, every day but one,
while I was there. - Wow.
It sounds like she's taking care of you.
- It seems, Mia, like you-you are--
you have been committed to making sure that he's okay.
- Mm-hmm. - You're now exiting.
So, I'm just-- I'm worried about Gordon.
Like, what, uh, what's the--
what's the path for moving forward?
- No, I'm still gonna forever.
- He's moving across the street from her.
- Yeah, I'm forever gonna. - Oh, so, you're always
gonna be, like, caretaking, so to speak.
- Yeah, I'm forever gonna take care of Gordon. Absolutely.
- So, I appreciate you saying that,
but I'm telling you, I am good now.
I understand my mental illness.
I understand how to control it now.
- It's brave of you for being so open about this.
- Thank you. Thank you.
- And I also think it's so beautiful,
the relationship that you two have.
- Yeah. - And clearly,
there's a lotta love there. - Yeah.
- And I think that you've made a commitment to not only him,
but I think what a great mom you are
that you're giving your children
probably something that you wanted for yourself as a kid,
and I think that's great. - Yeah.
- Absolutely.
- And what is your relationship
with her new boyfriend?
Do you have a relationship with him?
- We're-we're cordial. - You're cordial.
- Yeah, we're cordial. - And how do you feel?
Are you heartbroken about her moving on?
- So-so, here's the-- here's the real answer.
I know the things I did pushed her away.
- Okay. - I know that.
I have no doubts about that.
- What a victory, though, that you still have her
in your heart. - Oh, yeah, yeah.
- And she still has you in her heart.
- And I know, beyond a shadow of a doubt,
that she loved me.
- Well, and so, how is your relationship
with your family now? - One hundred percent better.
- Oh, I'm so happy to hear it. - 100% better.
I understand now that when my brothers and sisters
kicked me out as CEO,
it was because I was in a manic phase.
- So, no lawsuits? - No, we dropped ours.
- You dropped it. - Yeah, and I can't talk about--
- You're still a part owner? - Oh, yeah, yeah.
- Great.
- Yeah, we never lost our shares. - Right, good.
- All I lost, was the CEO position
and the pay that came along with that. - Okay, okay.
Well, Gordon, uh, thank you for being so open us.
- Well, thanks for giving me the opportunity.
- And that's an amazing story, and-and I--
and I-I just love this for the two of you.
I think it's really beautiful.
And-and we wish you all the best.
We're gonna leave it there for a sec.
We're gonna be back.
More with the husbands after this.
Coming up...
- Looking at the footage,
I think everyone is-is responsible.
I think Deborah, Candiace, Wendy, K.
- Wow, wow. Wow! - Everyone is responsible.
- How am I responsible? I did nothing.
- She doesn't-- she doesn't-- - It's on camera.
- Back chatting with The Real Housewives of Potomac.
Um, Nneka was the new girl in Potomac this year,
or was it North Potomac?
- And as her friendship with Dr. Wendy
rapidly went south,
the group was sifting through enough drama
to warrant another unpacking party.
Watch.
- Hi. - Ladies, this my friend, Nneka, I was telling you about.
- Nneka. - Hello, everyone.
- Hi. How are you?
- My daddy's a rich bitch,
and he made sure his daughter was a rich bitch, too.
Thanks for buying me a $2 million house.
- When are you gonna have a damn baby?
- We've been trying to conceive for the past seven months.
- We gotta do it more regularly, you know.
- From what he is saying, I mean, you all are fine.
- Nneka was talking about you, and I guess, like,
there was this article about you or something
being, like, Osu.
- It's literally been abolished.
I don't know if she is. I know I'm not.
- The way you told Wendy, it makes it seem like
Nneka was talking trash about her.
- Oh, fuck.
- Wendy's mom started saying that she has a shrine
and that-- - She's doing voodoo on you?
- My mom worships our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
- At day.
By night, she's submitting names to shrines.
Wendy was upset and told her sister and her mama
that I was on the show, and they were mad.
I do wanna, like, go forward,
or maybe there's a mis-misunderstanding.
- It's clear that you do not want peace.
- No, you don't want peace. - You don't want peace.
- Okay, lots to get to, clearly.
But, first, Liz from San Diego said,
"I-I hope you never go back to that first OB we saw.
"He was very dismissive of your concerns."
Where are you, right now, in your pursuit of a baby?
- Well, the IUI that you guys saw
did not, um, yield results. - Okay.
- So, I'm actually on the IVF journey now,
and these ladies have all been incredibly supportive.
Candiace, you've shared information,
resources, you've been a really good friend.
- Yeah. - That's nice.
Amanda from San Francisco said, "Karen,
"can you explain the difference between North Potomac
"and Potomac
"and why Nneka doesn't live in Potomac Proper,
"according to your map?" - Let's be very clear.
The part that Nneka lives in is North Potomac.
I just thought it was my responsibility
to point that out.
- So, what part of Potomac are you in?
- Central. - Thank you, baby.
- Okay. Um, Ashley from Starcasm
wants to know if you can tell us about your time
in Wisconsin.
"Your tagline mentions L.A., Nigeria, and Potomac.
"What-what were you guys doing in-in Wisconsin?"
- That's where I grew up.
- You grew up in Wisconsin. - I grew up in Wisconsin.
- Where? - Beloit, Wisconsin,
borderline with Illinois.
- Oh, okay, outside of Chicago.
- Yeah, so, yes.
So, this Valley voice is not really a Valley voice.
It's a Wisconsin voice.
- I wanna move on to the shrine.
- Oh, God.
- I wanna preface this by saying that we are all
aware of how culturally sensitive
of an issue this is.
It was a story that we wish that we didn't have to tell.
It was the real life dynamics
that were happening between the two of you,
but it's important for us to address
that production was not aware of the alleged shrine call
prior to filming,
and casting had originally wanted you to come on the show
through Wendy
because we thought you had mutual friends.
- Mm-hmm.
- And that this would make sense.
What production told me,
was that you didn't necessarily seem
that excited by the idea.
- They said, "Okay, we have somebody,"
and they said, "Do you know X, Y, and Z?"
- Right. - And I said,
"No, I don't know her."
And then they said, "Oh, that's funny.
"She says she knows you."
- Okay. - That was it. So, I wasn't excited...
- Wow. What kind of sisterhood is that?
- ...not because I didn't want her on the show.
Uh, it's I didn't know her. I don't know her.
- I have stated that I have met Wendy
and have had a conversation with her because I have.
- So, you did tell them that you knew me.
- No, I said I've met you.
Do you listen carefully, or you just talk a lot?
- Oh, are you angry? - Because you're not listening.
- Oh, why are you angry? You see, why are you--
why are you hostile towards me?
I haven't been hostile towards you.
- You've been lying all day. What are you talking about?
- I haven't-- I haven't lied once, sweetie.
- That's hostility when you're lying.
- Okay. - I met her at an event
for Umu Igbo, the Phyno concert.
I met you in a private VIP,
maybe less than 20 people, 10 people.
- Sometimes, for us,
if two people have met a few times--
- Mm-hmm. - But you didn't know each other.
- In our mind, it's, like, oh, they know each other.
- It's, "Oh, they're friends." - They're friends.
- They've been at events. Okay.
- And so, all I was doing, I wasn't shading.
- Okay. - All I was doing was responding and saying,
"I don't know her." - Okay, okay.
Um, had you been trying to connect with Wendy
to get onto the show? - Never a day in my life.
My husband's cousin, Leba, she was aware that
"Married to Medicine" first reached out to my husband,
who then got in contact with me
and wanted me on their show.
She's like, "Oh, my gosh, you're here in the DMV.
"I have another Nigerian Igbo sister.
"You guys have to meet."
- When you first met up with Ashley,
she brought up Wendy being Osu.
What does that mean, being Osu?
- Well, since, Ashley,
you brought it to this platform,
what does that mean?
- I mean, I would say I-- - No, no, no. Oh.
- To be fair, I have never tried to misrepresent
that I know what Osu means, number one.
- Okay.
- I know that it's something culturally sensitive.
I have acknowledged that, but I have never once said
that I know what it is, and I told you
I didn't quite understand the severity of it, as well.
- What was your intention in bringing it up?
- Thank you.
- And why not bring it up to Wendy?
- It was something that had been brought to my attention.
Prior to me meeting Nneka, it was brought up again,
and that was why I talked to Nneka about it.
- Very convenient. - Um...
- It is not to disparage you. - Andy, I will say.
- Okay. - Can we explain what it is?
- I will say, though, 'cause you're asking about what it means.
- It was 100% to disparage. - No.
- I want to know. - Truthfully speaking,
I don't believe that any of us here
are competent enough to really speak about it appropriately.
So, when asking what the definition is,
I don't even feel comfortable really divulging much.
- Is this a bad thing? - It's taboo. We don't talk--
we don't-- we don't talk about it. - Oh, taboo. Okay, fair.
- Yeah, we do not talk about it.
- We don't discuss it. - There's no reason
it should be talked about on this platform.
And honestly, Ashley,
I don't wanna hear anything else,
'cause if you knew how taboo it is...
- Wendy.
- ...you would not say anything else.
And you will just eat it and say, "I'm sorry," and move on.
- I did, and I have, and I have.
- And move on and let's move on.
- What I-- what I will not fall on the sword for,
is what followed subsequently.
- Nneka has apologized for referring to your mom
as a witch.
What else do you need from her to move on?
- I don't need anything.
We can agree to coexist and move forward.
Just take accountability and move forward.
- You're the one that can't take accountability.
I have apologized for the items that Andy just stated.
I was very excited and happy to be with another Nigerian.
This is the first time on any Housewives franchise
that two Nigerians Igbo people were on the same page.
And she's attacked me in several different forms.
Instead of the phone calls, she was over here,
um, spreading the lies about the Osu.
Osu had nothing to do with me.
- True. - All season long,
she had no energy for Ashley.
Never confronted Ashley about the Osu thing.
She was trying to ice me out of this group--
trying to ice me out in front of the whole world.
- Do y'all think that you'll ever be friends
'cause y'all are Igbo sisters?
- I have said what I have said.
I said we can coexist, and we can move forward.
- All right, we're gonna take a quick break.
When we come back, Keiarna will be joining us,
after this.
I wanna thank all the husbands.
Thank you, husbands, for coming.
You can leave the hat in my dressing room.
[laughing] - I got you, bro.
- I love you, baby.
- Thanks, buddy. That was amazing.
That was really great. Good for you.
- Thank you. - And good for you, Mia.
You're amazing. That was great.
- Thank you.
- Coming up...
Do you think you really would have swung
a champagne bottle at her?
- Yes. - I-I don't know.
I'm not expecting you all to fight for me.
Okay?
So, I'm on my own, okay?
[groans]
- Y'all are trained up.
- Here we go. Five, four, three...
- We are back with "The Real Housewives of Potomac" reunion,
and Keiarna has joined us.
Hey, there. - Hi, Andy.
- Great to see you. - Likewise.
Good to see everybody.
- A lotta confusion about your name.
- Mm-hmm.
- People call you K.
- Yeah, and I like K. - All right.
Got a lotta comments on your confessional outfit.
People were saying it was the best
out of everyone all season.
Do you agree? - Hands down.
- Of course, I agree. - Yeah, of course.
[laughter] All right.
I know you had an unfortunate end to the season,
and we're gonna talk about that,
but, up to that point,
did you have a good experience with this group?
- I had so much fun.
I loved gettin' to know the ladies.
It was fun.
- And you came into the group through Wendy.
How did you two meet?
- So, me and Wendy met about five--?
- Five, yeah. - Five years ago.
- Okay. - And yeah,
we have a mutual friend, Mikey.
She was like, "You have to meet Wendy."
And we've just been very supportive of each other
in things that we've been doing
throughout the city since.
- And you're also great buddies
with Gizelle's bestie Cal, right?
- Yes, I am! - Excellent.
- Yes. Yes. - Excellent.
All right. What's that connection?
- So, um, I-- previously, I'm a hair dresser, as well.
Or, cosmetologist-- I don't say that anymore.
I was a cosmetologist-- I still am a cosmetologist.
And, um, Cal's a cosmetologist as well.
He owned a hair salon.
So he pretty much mentorship.
I've known him since I was 18 years old.
Whenever I was comin' up in hair,
he always would advise me
on how to build my book of business.
He's great.
- Who else did you find yourself getting close to
during filming?
- Love Candi-land.
Love me some Candi-land. - Love you back.
- I love me some Karen, honey.
I love me some Karen, okay? - Thank you.
I love you, too, K.
- I love me some Robyn.
I love me some "I don't give a F" Robyn.
I love me some Gizelle.
I really love the girls. - That's great.
Brianna from Philadelphia said,
"It does kinda look like Wendy brought K on the show
and left her for dead."
- Aww. - Oh.
- "Literally, it's your friend's first cast trip.
- Oh, yes.
- "And you're not gonna check on her when she's sick?"
- Ash? - Huh?
- Is it single use? - Yeah.
- Oh, great, okay.
- M. Hudson on Vulture said, "So, why did Wendy say
so emphatically she wasn't sharing a room with Keiarna?
That's your friend.
Is she supposed to share with a relative... ?"
- Okay, this is my thing with the room.
- Okay. - With your friends.
- None of us had to share a room.
- Okay, okay. - We all had our own rooms.
- Had a room. So, why?
- So, why would I share a room?
- Say no more, say no more. - Yes.
- And can I defend myself?
I-- so we sat next to each other.
- No.
- Yeah.
- K, did that bother you?
- It did, it did bother me, in the moment.
So, I did genuinely appreciate Gizelle coming
and saying, "Hey, girl, are you okay?"
I didn't even think, in the moment, like,
nobody checked up on me.
- I was just concerned 'cause how-how do you feel?
We got here and...
- And I almost did a croak on y'all,
but, no, I'm, honestly, I'm fine.
Thank you 'cause nobody else gave a damn about me today.
- It's strategic that-- - No, no, no.
- You think it was strategic. - Yes, it was.
- Why was it strategic?
- I-I think that a lot of what Gizelle does--
[laughter] - What in the hell?
- That wasn't about Keiarna. - Okay.
- It was about making Candiace and Wendy
look like bad friends.
- Oh, okay. - No, no, no.
- Oh, come on.
- I don't appreciate that
because I knew that K was sick,
so I went and checked on her.
To say that I checked on her to be strategic,
is ridiculous.
- Well, Wendy, every year,
we see you embark on a new endeavor.
- Oh, Lord. - From teaching to candles,
restaurants, and now a talk show,
and a family weed empire.
Have you finally found your niche?
- Mmm. - Or, will this one
fizzle out like a one-wick candle in the wind?
- Y'all are so shady.
- These are shady. I did not write that.
I recuse myself-- Take a look. - Who is responsible?
[laughing]
- I am a multi-hyphenate.
I am a mom, a wife, a professor,
a author, entrepreneur, a talk show host.
I can be many things.
I am starting... [drum roll]
My own talk show!
- Right, that's right. - Right and people need to know.
- We're pointing to the next generation, as well.
- Jodeci or Boyz II Men?
- all: Jodeci! [laughing]
- My show vibrates really high.
So, if people are not at an intellectual level
to receive it, it may not be for them.
- Then if you vibrate so high,
why are you so quick to call somebody so slow?
- Because you're slow.
- Jeremiah does have special education.
But that's just not a word that you use.
- I'm not taking up for Wendy,
but I do know her to be a compassionate person.
- Clear it the fuck up! - Sister,
I'm clearing it up, bitch!
What the fuck are you talking about?
- Whoa.
- I feel like y'all can work it out.
- Do you know who I wanna work it out with?
I wanna work it out with Mia.
- This is deflection 101.
- I wanna talk to Mia, who you called dumb and stupid?
You wanna talk to her?
Oh, okay.
- Okay, you've made it clear that you're a multi-hyphenate.
- Yes.
- You released your talk show on your YouTube channel.
Mazel Tov.
How is it going? - Oh, thank you.
It's going well, but it has been difficult.
It's actually harder than I thought it would be.
- Did you wind up staying on budget?
- For the pilot, I went over budget.
- Oh, okay.
The show is different than the pilot, I think.
- Yes. Yes. - It's more of a monologue
to camera. - Yeah, yeah.
- Um... Did you decide to go in a different direction,
based on the pilot?
- Not necessarily.
I felt that I knew that I would not--
because it's a one man show, so to speak.
I don't have the capacity to be able to book people
for every single episode. - Right.
- And I didn't want me to be held back
because I don't have the guests that I want.
- But you booked Destiny's Child, so...
- I did. - Yeah, you did.
- I booked LaTavia Roberson from Destiny's Child.
- Yes, that's right. - That was big.
- That was very big. - That was huge.
- And I was like, "I can't believe this is happening."
- I will say, um, Wendy, um, I love the name Happy Eddie.
- Awe. - And how Eddie kind of too it back from Deborah.
How is the weed business going?
- The weed business is going great for Eddie.
Um, he just did--
He partners with a big Maryland distributor.
And he just did a Black History Month pop-up tour.
- Great. - And it was awesome.
- Are there a lot of Black-owned weed businesses?
- There's not.
- Oh, great. Oh, good. - There's not. There's not.
So he-he's done that. - Right.
How often do you and Eddie partake in the inventory?
- Let me tell you somethin'.
- You know, you're not supposed to dig into your own stash.
- You're not supposed to. - No.
- But every time he goes to--
So-- Okay, so, look, I didn't know this.
I didn't know if you have your own brand...
- Yeah. - ...you get like a serious discount.
- Okay.
- So every time he goes to a pop-up,
he comes home with like bags.
- Oh, my gosh. - Ooh! - So, all that to say...
- We need to go to Wendy's house.
- Right! - I know.
So all that to say, I don't partake as much,
but I am always the first in line
to do a trial of new products.
- Oh, good! Um... [laughing]
- Your mom is very religious.
What does she think about Eddie being the weed man?
- You know, at the end of the day,
my mom is very religious, but she's also very Nigerian.
So as long as he has his degree.
- Okay. - Which he does have.
And he's accomplished.
She's open to any endeavor
as long as it does not risk his life or others.
Florence from Minneapolis said, "Wendy,
I applaud you for wanting to be an entrepreneur,
but it's getting ridiculous.
Pick one thing and stick to it.
What happened to the candles?"
- Onyi Home Essentials still exists.
We ship out orders ever single day.
So, that's still happening.
- Are you still teaching, too?
- I still teach,
but I think this will be my last semester.
- Really?
- Aww. - Yeah.
My daughter is turning five. She's going to kindergarten.
My oldest son is going to middle school.
And I've missed out on pivotal moments
in their lives. - Yeah.
- And so, this semester, I'm like,
I think this is going to be it.
- Well, that's good. - I just wanna enjoy them.
- That's good. - I don't want to miss out
on moments of their lives,
and I have, and it hurts that I have.
It really hurts.
- Yeah, I can understand that. - Wow, you're making me rethink.
[laughing]
Marie from Boston said, Wendy,
why did we just find out you were Catholic this year?
You never mentioned it before, and then suddenly
you were talking about it all season.
- I was-- I've always been Catholic.
C-Catholicism is-- - I would assume so.
- Yeah, Catholicism isn't something you just become.
And, you know, when my kids were doing their Communion,
what I thought was cute was they flashed
my first Communion pictures.
So I've been Catholic since birth.
That's not anything new.
- We got a lotta comments about you calling Mia slow.
Victoria from Detroit said, "Wendy,
I think it was a little cruel of you to call her slow,
especially as an educator and someone who talks about
female empowerment."
- Mia is the same person who said living in
North Carolina and Maryland was a bicoastal lifestyle.
- We are so bicoastal.
I work across the East Coast.
So, like-- - Bicoastal?
- Char-Charlotte and-and Maryland are on the same coast.
- Well, you know, same thing.
I just think that we have to be mindful
of buzzwords, you know. - Okay.
Missy from Providence, Rhode Island said,
"Wendy, you like to hold yourself and others
to a high standard,
but you can go just as low as anyone on the cast,
calling Mia slow and calling Nneka a crackhead.
Why say that?"
- Well, with the crackhead comment,
I was being encountered with the constant comments
towards my mother of a witch.
However, I apologize for calling you a crackhead.
- She also calls me a pathological liar.
- Mia, you lie all the time. - Mia, you be lying.
- No, okay. - Come on, Mia, you're a liar.
You [indistinct].
- Did you call Mia "Mia be lyin'" on...
- Yes, I said Mia's name is Mia be lyin'.
- Candiace be crying.
- You-- wait, she does. - Candiace be cryin'.
- Okay.
Coming up...
- Well, I'm sorry to Keiarna.
That was not something I wanted to happen at our event.
- Do you accept that?
- I feel like Ashley is the queen
of the aftermath apologies.
- I'm Andy Cohen, back with the Real Housewives of Potomac.
Ashley, this season, we saw you venture
out on your own and into a new home,
but you still pumped the brakes
when it came to finalizing your divorce.
Will you ever sign on the dotted line?
Let's take a look.
- Ashley, are you divorced?
- I am not divorced. - Ahh!
- But I live very much apart.
Boobie, do you like your new house?
- I do.
- Welcome to Ashley Darby's seaside in the city.
I'm not in any rush necessarily to take
Michael's name off the mortgage.
- And I do have a credit card,
and we do have a joint account,
and that joint account I use for the children
and Uber Eats 'cause...
- You married Michael for his money.
- Did you marry Gordon for his money?
- I might have. - Girl.
- I'm just going through a lot.
I have my house. I have my kids.
- And an athletic line.
- By Gizelle and Ashley?
- GnA. - I like that.
- Oh, my God, it's showtime.
- It's showtime, baby.
- Yeah, go ahead.
- Hi, beauty.
- Chile...
am I surprised that Ashley invited Deborah?
No.
Ashley is messy.
[indistinct yelling]
- I don't want GnA associated with a brawl.
- I wanna hear what you have to say
because these were your friends.
- If what Deborah is saying is true,
that Candiace had been calling her vermin,
rodent, the help,
sometimes, for some people, you hit too low.
At the same time, it's not a good look for you
to have a champagne bottle in your hand
like you're gonna do something.
- Okay, a lot to talk about.
Wanna start, of course, Ashley, with your nondivorce.
Can you tell us anything about
the person you're dating, right now?
- I have a friend, and, um, he's a nice man,
but he doesn't wanna get married,
and he has no children.
So, I think this is just a friendship.
- And do you wanna get married?
- Yes, I will be married again.
- There's speculation that your divorce is not real,
and it's for the TV show
and that you're still married
and just will always be married to Michael.
- First of all, people have seen a fraction
of what Michael and I went through.
- So, Ash, what was the holdup for filing divorce?
- It was very contentious.
- So, it was just easier just to exist the way you were.
- It was. We were coexisting.
- Yeah. - And I realize now
that I'm on this very toxic cycle
where we'll have great moments where I'm like,
okay, we're coparenting.
We're friendly. We're nice.
And then it-it's a roadblock.
So, when we were filming the show,
we were in a toxic place.
After we wrapped, he was so nice.
Everything was so good.
And now, I'm back in a toxic place.
- Oh. - And what I've realized,
is that there are people who have narcistic personalities,
and so I'm breaking free.
I have actually filed a complaint to really
initiate my divorce.
- Okay. - Great.
- I mean, now I feel a little more prepared and ready
to-to endure the battle. - Kimberly from PG--
- Will Michael care either way, if you had filed or not?
He was okay with just how things were going?
- He's not pushing it.
So, I mean, I don't know what his motive is
as to why it's not. - Is he dating?
- I think he is, he took a trip on Valentine's Day.
- Oh, no, he's dating, for sure.
- So, I think, yeah, I think that means
he's got a little boo thing.
So... - Got a little boo thing.
- So, we found out that you still use
a shared credit card with Michael
for the children and Uber Eats.
Any other purchases you're putting on the card?
- No, that's really it. - Okay.
- You didn't put these on the card?
I knew it, I knew it. - I actually did put these on--
I put these on-on the AMEX. - I don't blame you.
- The boobs? - Who's are those?
- He was like, "What is this?" - Girl, I knew it.
- And I said, "Uh, I don't know.
I think you should claim fraud.
Uh, it wasn't me," yeah.
- How much money are you looking to secure in the divorce?
- A sizable amount. - I know that's right.
- A sizable amount. - A sizeable amount.
- 'Cause you deserve it.
- I-- well, thank you.
And, also, I'm just thinking about my kids' future,
and there's so much uncertainty for me, right now.
GnA I know is going to be great,
but I wanna make sure that they're always
protected and safe.
- Even if you get a divorce, and you financially need him,
he would still be there for you, right?
[sighs]
- Jury is out on that, Nneka.
- Really?
- I mean, I think he'll always be there for the children,
but how far does that extend to me?
- Mmm.
- No, I hear you. That's why I'm asking.
- Yeah, I don't know. - Um, okay.
Nikki from Charleston said, "Ashley,
do you think what Mia said about you in the D.R.
was so unfair
because you may not have married Michael for his money,
but you're definitely staying with him for it."
- Um, when I met Michael, I was working.
I had actually wanted to be a news broadcaster.
I had so many ambitions.
And Michael was, like, he just whisked me off my feet,
and he said, "I wanna travel all the time.
And if you're working a 9 to 5 job,
you can't travel with me."
And I said, "Say less."
So, we traveled the world together,
and I got comfortable.
I did become dependent upon him,
and I still love him. I still--
I-I massaged this man's feet every night, like, I-I mean,
I love this man, chile. - Michael's feet?
You massage Michael's feet? - You massage what?
- I massaged Michael's feet every night.
- Chile. - Uh, what?
- What do you mean you massage his feet every night?
- Chile. - With a "D."
I massage-d.
- You massage-d, okay.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- Oh, okay, oh. - All right, okay.
- Yeah, get the "D." Um... - Okay.
- Girl, that's a bit much.
- You don't-- what you massage for Ray?
- A cup of coffee in the morning.
[laughing]
I love my man, but the feet? No.
- Um, it's very exciting to hear you and Gizelle
are going into business together with GnA.
How is the line doing,
and how has it gone working together?
- We work together great.
We're in sync. - Yes.
- Both gym bunnies. We both love to get in the gym.
We both care about our bodies.
So, I think we're the perfect ladies for the job.
- Yeah, it's-- and it's funny, 'cause I have a comparison
in working with Robyn.
- Okay.
- You know, Robyn is very by the penny.
- Oh, really? - Very much so.
- Okay. - Roybn can tell you right now
to the penny, what's in our Reasonably Shady account.
- Okay. - Okay?
Whereas, me and Ashley just go with the flow.
- That's the OCD in you. - We just, you know--
Gizelle n Ashley are very go-with-the-flow.
However, Ashley will bust a budget wide open
and be like, "Is that okay, Gizelle?"
And I'm like, okay.
- I don't say we bust it wide open.
But we are trying to do something that is different.
I mean, we're trying to basically reinvent the legging
with a thicker gusset. - Yeah, yeah.
- You know, for the coochie.
And that's something that we're working so hard
to find the technology, a lot of trial and error.
And it's costly. - Yeah.
- Is the gusset in leggings too thin typically?
- Andy, when women work out,
a lot of them sweat in the coochie.
- You can see it on their leggings.
- Not me, though. - Okay.
- So we want to alleviate that.
- You don't have it? - I don't have that.
- If you can eliminate camel toe and choochie sweat
then, yeah, I'm-I'm a big customer.
- So, ladies, you all went to the fashion show.
What did everyone think?
Was the collection giving Lululemon meets Savage?
- No. - No, ma'am, no.
- It was kinda like streetwear,
like athletic streetwear, in a sense.
- Kinda She by Sheree?
- No. - Okay.
- Kind of grocery store, I'm gonna catch a man,
or booty call. - Oh.
- I'm-I'm not mad at that.
- That's not-- no, that's what it is, right?
- Okay, okay, all right. - I'm not mad at that.
- That's fine. - See?
- Yeah. - Y'all should've consulted me.
It was wonderful, by the way. - Okay.
- I think you've worn something similar before.
- Oh, I have not, my darling.
- I think so. - Yeah, I don't think so.
- Well, as we've all seen, in a very unfortunate
turn of events,
an altercation erupted at the GnA event
a few minutes after our cameras went down.
Keiarna, what was the sequence of events
that led to your injury?
- Sure. Essentially, I was there
really just trying to deescalate the situation,
and Deborah clearly came with the intent
to have this moment. - Yes.
- I don't know Deborah.
Never seen Deborah before.
Um, essentially, Wendy is really the one
trying to deescalate, initially, at first.
Not me. - Yes.
- But what happens is, maybe she couldn't see
her proximity was actually in my space.
So, Candiace is sexy dancing over here
on the other side of the stage,
and she's in my personal space.
- Okay. - So, clearly, at that--
at that moment, I do feel this is escalating.
Behavior was direct, and it was aggressive, so yeah.
- The incident was caught by bystanders
and ended up on TMZ.
So, although we didn't show the altercation,
many people have seen it. - It was awful.
It was awful. - Um, in the footage,
you can be seen throwing punches
after Deborah throws the drink on you.
What-what was going on, at that moment?
- I mean, at that moment, I was assaulted.
- Yes.
- Someone hit me in the head with a glass,
a deadly weapon. - And split her face open.
- Split my face open.
And so, my first instincts was to
defend myself, in that moment. - Fight or flight.
Fight or flight. - Fight back.
- Uh, when the cameras went down,
leading up to the fight,
Candiace, had-had you been calling
Deborah names that evening, and then she confronted you,
or was it more out of nowhere?
- It was out of nowhere.
We're all kind of celebrating, happy,
eating shrimp, talking. - Mm-hmm.
- And she comes from this way over,
and gets right in my face, and says,
"Do you have something you wanna say to me?"
And then you saw what happened from there.
But I-- when I was referring to her as the help
and whatever else I said-- - Yes.
- She's vermin, she's Oscar the Grouch,
all of which I meant, it was after
she had gotten in my face and tried to engage in a moment.
- Um-- - So, but--
I do have something to say about it.
- Yes.
- Um, I will say Deborah was on a rampage that night,
because she did try to do the same thing
that she did to Candiace, to me.
She said, "I'm only a four, Mia?
"I'm only a four?"
Deborah, I like her, but she's, like,
maybe a four and a half, you know.
I mean, she's cute, but she's not, like, cute.
And I was like, "No, you're a Black queen.
"We're all tens." And squashed.
And had I said, "Yeah, bitch, you're a four,"
she probably would have threw the drink in my face,
but I didn't.
So, you have to be mindful, too, sometimes.
You're sitting in a seat where you have to more to lose.
Don't entertain.
- Gizelle, you-- I know you were upset that this happened
at your event, uh, after you left.
- Very much. - After seeing the footage,
what did you make of it?
- Um, I think that, looking at the footage,
I think everyone is-is responsible.
- Wow. Wow. - I think Deborah, Candiace,
Wendy, K. Everyone is responsible.
- Wow. - How am I responsible?
- I think Deborah, Candiace, Wendy, K.
- Wow. Wow. - Everyone is responsible.
- Wow.
Y'all want me to be friends with this?
Like, you want me to make up with this?
- Well, what did I do? - Um...
- There you go, again, with these blanket statements.
- That's how-- that's how I feel.
- What did Wendy do in the physical altercation
when, each time, you see me literally dodging not to get?
- Yes. - She wasn't there?
She wasn't right next to-- - So what did Wendy do?
- She was in the group, but she was trying to calm down.
- What did Wendy do?
- I'll take Wendy out of it. - On camera.
- She just-- she just took it back.
- Okay.
- She took back that Wendy is responsible.
- She just took it back. - So, no.
- No. - But, somehow,
Candiace is responsible.
- Um, trying to start a business,
and it being on TMZ for there to be a brawl,
is disturbing. - Right, yes.
- Mm-hmm. - Candiace?
- Yes. - Again, please repeat,
'cause I don't want to quote you.
Why did you call her a "varmint?"
- Vermin. - When did that happen?
"Varmint." - Vermin.
- After she walked-- - "Var-varmant."
- Vermin. - It's varmant.
- After she walked up to me. - Right.
- We-- cameras were down. We were standing around.
I was standing there with my champagne, dancing,
and she walked up to me, came from this direction,
walked over, got right in my face, and said,
"Do you have something that you want to say to me?"
I said, "No. Come get this vermin out of my face."
- Yeah, no, but you can't do that.
- Yes, yes, I can. - No. I mean, Candiace, calling--
name calling-- you're call-- - Yes, I can.
You cannot tell me how to respond to someone
who has already threatened me. - Okay, well,
then that's why she threw the drink.
- Being disrespectful to me.
- Do you think you really would have swung it at her?
- Yes. - I-I don't know
what I would have done. I know that I turned around.
I saw this person lunging at me.
I'm not expecting you all to fight for me, okay?
So, I'm on my own, okay? - Yeah, for sure,
'cause when you're in the moment, it's a lot.
- Ashley said, in an interview,
that you still put blame on Candiace
for going too far with her mouth.
- Candiace, again, this is the--
it's the second time. Perhaps, she goes too far.
For some people, you hit too low.
- Why do you feel that Candiace's mouth
was an issue that night?
- Because it's always Candiace's fault.
- I feel like Candiace's words play a factor.
- Always my fault.
- I didn't say it was your fault. I'm not--
I am not attributing-- - You justified violence
against me, again.
- I am not attributing that horrendous incident to you.
Your words could-- instigated it and made it more explosive.
- No, she was going to do that whether I said nothing
or tried to beat her up. - I don't think so.
- She came with the intention to fight me. - You don't know that.
You don't know that. We don't know that.
- Do you think your comments escalated the situation, though?
Because if she came at you, and you believed she was already
being aggressive, saying, "Do you want to say anything
"to my face," do you think the comments
exacerbated her anger? - I said, "No." I said, "No."
And the fact that here we are, again,
and me using my words somehow trumps someone attempting
to physically attack me. - We're not justifying her actions.
- Nobody said that. - I don't think anyone said
that your words trump that. - No.
- Then-then why would you say-- - She said your words
play a part. - They played a part.
- My-- no, they don't. - Yes, they do.
- No, they don't. - They exacerbated it.
- She wanted a problem with me. - Thank you.
- What they're saying is, that you were playing
with a loaded gun. - That's a good analogy.
- Well, I'm also a loaded gun.
- We know. - I know but with your words.
- Yes. - Right. You're not gonna--
- If-if I-- I don't know what would have happened.
- Okay. - I don't know.
- Ashley, did you invite Deborah around
to stir things up? - No.
- Seemed like she only came around last season
to drop bombs about people's husbands.
- She doesn't seem okay. - Everyone thinks that
I invited Deborah to be messy. - She's not okay.
- I did not invite Deborah to be messy.
She had previously expressed to me that she wanted to clear
the air with you and that she didn't know if she would
ever have the opportunity. - Are you talking to me?
- Yes. I'm sorry. - Okay.
- Because she feels like there was a miscommunication.
That's what she told me.
So-- - And you believe her?
- Well, what else do I have to go on?
I mean, a lot of time has passed.
I don't know Deborah to be a violent person.
- Well, she's violent. - And aggressive.
- And, again, I didn't invite her
to get under anybody's skin. She is a close-- excuse me--
was a close friend of mine. - Mm-hmm.
- I wanted her to be there and celebrating the night.
- Okay. - Well, I do wanna say,
also, I'm sorry to Keiarna.
That was not something I wanted to happen at our event.
So, I'm sorry that you went through that, truly.
- Do you accept that?
- I'm going to be honest with you.
I feel like Ashley is the queen of, you know,
the aftermath apologies when it comes to these situations.
- Okay.
- Um, I accept that you are big enough to apologize,
and that's all I have to say. - Well, why is--
why is it an aftermath? - Okay.
- Can't I only say it an aftermath?
- Anything you want to say before we let you go?
- I can't say it during. - I mean--
I mean that you're not proactive, in general, about
not causing a mess, but that's just my personal opinion.
- No, I've-I've expressed that-- that was never my intention.
I could never have anticipated the-the level that
that would have reached. - I do-- I do not think
that that was your intention.
I do not think that that was your intention.
- All right. K, before I let you go,
anything else you wanna say? - Yes.
I really, really, really want to thank you, Karen.
- Don't make me cry.
- Because in that moment, I was scared.
I felt alone.
I felt embarrassed. - Yeah.
- I take myself very seriously. I'm not a violent person.
And so, to me, to just be in such a situation like that,
I've never been assaulted in my life.
- Yeah. - So, for you to take
that ride for me. - Oh, I would do it
with any one of you. - And the only other person
that would have been with me would have been my mom.
- Mm-hmm. - And, um, she was not there.
So, just that you just jumped right into that
and seen me, in that moment, because I was scared.
- I know you were, and I'm gonna say this.
The one thing that I will never not do, K,
is take care of any one of you,
including Robyn. - Robyn, Robyn, Robyn.
- I will take-- - Okay, oh, wow.
Wow, even Robyn? - But the bottom line--
even Robyn, oh, absolutely. - Wow.
- Listen, let me very clear. - I know.
- Listen, violence against any of us--
uh, Robyn probably would take care of me, too.
You know, she just won't say it.
- Okay. - But, K,
I met your family that night,
and if something happened to my child,
I would want somebody to do that.
So, we do what we would do for others.
- And I wanna say, even just watching the last thing,
I appreciate everyone saying kind things about me
because I really just came here to make friends
with the girls, get along.
You know, me and Robyn kiki all the time
through text message.
I-I hadn't heard from Gizelle about the event,
which I was surprised, Gizelle,
'cause you were the first person to check up on me.
- Are you suprised? We told you.
- Strategic. - Strategic.
- K, I left there, and my father
had brain surgery. - I was aware, yeah.
- So... - I reached out to you.
- No shade to you. - No, I reached out to you.
I did. - I was--
We talked, right? - Yeah, we talked.
About that, yeah. - Yeah, no-no shade to you.
But you were not in my thoughts at all, I'm sorry.
- Yeah, I know. It was the aftermath that hurt.
But, um... I just,
I appreciate the people, even Mia.
Ashley physically called me. I do appreciate that.
So, I just want to thank you guys
for actually taking that time to call.
- You're a beast at your profession,
not a scar. - Amazing.
- Scar where? - All right.
We are gonna leave it there.
It was so fun getting to know you, K.
- Yes. - Aww.
- We're gonna say goodbye to you,
and we will be right back after this.
- I can leave, right? - You did great.
- Well, you know it's been a long reunion
when I have no voice left.
Ladies, we are about to officially wrap up season eight.
- Thank God. - Thank you, Jesus.
- I am hoping we can move forward into what will be
a more productive season nine.
There was a lotta conflict in the group this season,
some of which never came to a resolution tonight,
I'm sorry to say.
I wanna see what we can do to make any progress that's left
and thaw some pies, as it will.
Is there anyone who wants to step up
and apologize or own anything
and throw into the embers of yesteryear?
- Maybe a hug, anybody?
- Uh, Candiace and Robyn, anything?
- I don't have any anger.
When you had a friendship that we had,
and you go through something like this,
it doesn't just heal itself in one day
or in one sitting.
But I have no animosity, no hatred, none of that.
- I can say the same.
I'm-- I-I feel like I, over the course of this season,
like, mourned the friendship.
- Uh-huh.
- And I'm kind of at a neutral place.
I mean, you said the friendship was over.
So, if there is any movement, the ball is in your court.
- Nneka and Wendy, I get the sense
this isn't gonna happen.
- Andy, I, continuously, throughout the season,
have taken accountability for everything
that I've done and said.
I left everything at the table that day
when she and I met, and I was ready
to move forward and put my own issues to the side
to just see what the interaction would be,
and that's still where I am.
- Andy, you know, my comment to Nneka still remains,
which is, what I have done to you?
I met with you, said that, you know what, we can coexist.
We can move forward.
- And you did both apologize to each other.
- Yes, uh, and I apologized for the, earlier,
for the crackhead comment. - I didn't receive an apology
directed to me.
- We're not rehashing where-where, you know,
but I said-- - There were apologies made.
- Well, earlier today,
I apologized for the crackhead comment.
- And that's okay. - She apologized today.
- Go ahead. Yeah, I apologized for the crackhead comment.
Go ahead. - Gizelle and Candiace,
I'm not even gonna try.
- I came here today with the intention to move forward.
I think that I have, from the bottom of my coochie,
I have tried. - Yes.
- I-I can't-- you can't-- - Tried to do what?
You-you move forward because you acknowledge things.
She won't even acknowledge it. - You-- you're-you're--
you're not capable of accountability.
- She won't even acknowledge it. - That's it.
- She won't even acknowledge.
- Oh, my God.
I think the two of you need Jesus himself.
[laughing] - I have Him. He is right here.
- Okay. All right. - He's right here.
- I can't wait for this to air and the tweets.
- I can't, either. - Okay, um--
- I can't, either. Narcissism at its finest.
- Okay, okay, next. - All right. Okay.
Um, Ashley, I can't wait to meet your new boyfriend.
- If he lasts. - Very happy for you.
- Thank you. - Yeah, if he lasts.
- Mia, I think it's so commendable
what you're doing with G,
and I'm just--
I'm really touched. - Absolutely. Same.
- I'm really touched. Yeah. - Much respect.
- Yes, much. - Much respect.
- Much, much respect. - Very much respect.
Karen, the fence... - Is mine.
- You are still the fence. - Thank you, darling.
- You tried very hard. - Mm-hmm. I did.
- I appreciate it. - Thank you.
- But I also appreciate that you're right
in the middle of Potomac
while Nneka is up there in North Potomac,
governing her strip of land. - Not North Potomac, Andy.
It's Potomac Proper. - Yes.
- Listen, ladies, I wanna thank you
for hashing it out today,
and I wanna take those pies out of the freezers.
Where are they? - Oh, you've got pies?
What-what-what kind of pies? - We have pies.
They are frozen pies.
- Oh, Robyn, I love that. - Are they really frozen?
Karen, bend over, so I can shove it up your ass.
- Oh, not gonna happen, darling. I'm too happy.
- Pumpkin, oh, can we have a fork?
- Okay, ladies, I-I have the supplies--
- Okay, well, everybody get their pies.
- Pumpkin? - Oh, uh, I don't do pumpkin.
Do you do pumpkin? - Everybody gettin' their pies.
- Pecan? - Pecan.
[laughing] - Thank you.
- I'll just hold it. - Okay. Um...
- And what-- Andy-- - So, Andy,
we need you to stand in the middle.
- Yes, we do. - None for daddy.
- No. - Okay, none for daddy.
We need you to stand in the middle.
- No, but we need you-- we have something else
special for you. - Yes.
Because, you know, in Potomac, we live by a coronation.
Yes. - Right.
And this is our final coronation.
- Okay. - Yes.
[clears throat] - And we're going to crown you.
- Yes.
- The Duke... - Yes, the grande.
- Of Potomac. - Whoa! Are you kidding?
Oh, yes!
[laughing] The Duke of Potomac!
- That you are.
- I feel like it really means it.
[laughing]
Wow, the Duke of Potomac. - Oh!
- Thanks, everybody, for watching.
- You finally made it.
- This is the Duke of Potomac checking out.
- Come on. Signing out. - Thank you, ladies.
Enjoy your pie. - Thank you, Andy.
- Thank you so much. - Thank you, Andy.
- Yes. - Wow.
- And I will eat my pie. - This is amazing. Oh, my God!
You made my day. You made my day!
- Oh, my God. - The Duke of Potomac.
Wow.