♪ ♪
>>> THIS IS WHAT WILL GIVE US THE MAJORITY.
THIS IS WHAT WILL GIVE US THE FUTURE.
>> I WANT YOU TO WATCH NANCY PELOSI HAND ME THAT GAVEL.
>> THE REPUBLICANS SECURED THE HOUSE MAJORITY BY A SLIM MARGIN.
>> THIS IS GOING TO BE THE NARROWEST MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE
IN DECADES.
>> AFTER FALLING SHORT OF EXPECTATIONS IN THE MIDTERMS,
KEVIN McCARTHY'S PATH TO BECOME HOUSE SPEAKER HAS BECOME MORE
COMPLICATED.
>> WITH A 222-SEAT REPUBLICAN MAJORITY HE CAN ONLY AFFORD TO
LOSE FOUR REPUBLICAN VOTES.
>> WE OFFERED A DEAL. THE DEAL WAS REJECTED.
I WILL NOT BE VOTING FOR KEVIN McCARTHY AS SPEAKER.
>> 20 REPUBLICANS AT LAST COUNT HAVE DEFECTED FROM THE McCARTHY
CAMP.
>> A SPEAKER HAS NOT BEEN --
>> HAS NOT BEEN --
>> A SPEAKER HAS NOT BEEN ELECTED.
>> IT IS THE FIRST TIME IN A CENTURY MEMBERS OF CONGRESS HAVE
NEEDED MULTIPLE VOTES TO CHOOSE A SPEAKER.
>> KEVIN McCARTHY MAKING A PLEA TO HIS PARTY TO STAY UNITED.
>> ESSENTIALLY GIVING AWAY THESE INCREDIBLE COMMITTEE
ASSIGNMENTS.
>> HOW LONG DO YOU THINK THIS IS GOING TO DRAG OUT FOR?
>> I'D LOVE TO KNOW. WE ARE WORKING THROUGH IT AND WE
MADE GOOD PROGRESS.
>> HE HAS PROPOSED A NUMBER OF PROPOSALS TO GIVE
MEMBERS OF THE FAR RIGHT MORE POWER.
>> HOW CLOSE ARE YOU AT THIS POINT?
>> KEVIN McCARTHY FINALLY ELECTED SPEAKER ON THE 15th
BALLOT.
>> THE HONORABLE KEVIN McCARTHY OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA IS
DULY ELECTED SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.
>> THAT WAS EASY, HUH?
>> SPEAKER McCARTHY IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THE WEAKEST SPEAKERS
IN AMERICAN HISTORY.
>> HOW MUCH POWER DOES SPEAKER McCARTHY REALLY HOLD AFTER WHAT
WE SAW?
>> THERE ARE MANY NEW MEMBERS OF CONGRESS --
>> THEIR WHOLE MISSION IS TO SOLVE PROBLEMS IN A BIPARTISAN
WAY.
>> HOPE IS ONE THING, STRATEGY IS ANOTHER.
>> THIS IS A HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES UNDER CONTROL OF
THE MAGA REPUBLICANS AT THIS POINT.
>> THERE IS A LOT THAT GOES ON, I THINK, BEHIND THE SCENES AND
FRANKLY PEOPLE JUST SAW IT SPILL OUT ON TO THE HOUSE FLOOR.
BUT THAT'S THE NATURE OF OUR POLITICS TODAY.
>> THE HOUSE IS UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT AND GOP IS OFF TO A
ROCKY START.
>> HOUSE REPUBLICANS GOING BACK ON THE ATTACK.
>> THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE IS HOLDING A HEARING ABOUT HUNTER
BIDEN'S LAPTOP.
>> LAUNCH MULTIPLE INVESTIGATION NOOSE JANUARY 6th
>> THREATENING TO PUSH THE FRAGILE ECONOMY OFFER THE BREAK
WHILE REFUSE TO GO RAISE THE DEBT CEILING.
>> IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GET RIGHT TO WORK BECAUSE THOSE WHO
WANT TO WORK AGAINST US ARE WORKING HARD AND THEY'RE WORKING
HARD RIGHT NOW.
>> THE MAGA MOVEMENT IS IT STILL IN CONTROL OF THE GOP?
>> KEVIN McCARTHY, IS HE GOING TO END UP COMPROMISING HIS
POWER?
>> THAT SPEAKERSHIP AT ALMOST ANYTIME NOW.
>> HOW CONFIDENT ARE YOU THAT YOU WILL HAVE THIS JOB FOR A
FULL TWO-YEAR TERM?
>> 1,000%. THANK YOU, ALL.
♪ ♪
>>> BEAUTIFUL.
>> LOOK AT THAT.
>> ARE YOU GOING TO EAT BOTH OF THOSE?
>> THERE YOU GO.
>> MORE. ♪
>> HOW IS IT GOING, YOU GUYS? WHAT'S GOING ON?
>> HI.
>> HEY.
>> STILL FRIENDS.
>> THERE IS A HOLY TRINITY OF AMERICAN POLITICAL STORIES RIGHT
NOW, BIDEN AND THE WORLD STAGE, REPUBLICANS ON THE PRESIDENTIAL
STAGE, AND THE HOUSE. A LOT OF CHANGE HAS COME TO
CAPITOL HILL.
>> YOU HAVE KEVIN McCARTHY WHO FINALLY TOOK THE MANTEL AFTER --
>> AFTER 15 BALLOTS.
>> I MEAN, LET'S NOT FORGET THOSE FUN DAYS IN JANUARY.
>> HE HAS HAD HIS EYE ON THIS JOB FOR NEARLY A DECADE AND HE
HAD TO MAKE A BUNCH OF CLOSED-DOOR CONCESSIONS TO THE
MAGA CAUCUS.
>> WE STILL DON'T EXACTLY KNOW ALL THE THINGS THAT KEVIN
McCARTHY HAD TO GIVE UP IN ORDER TO SECURE THE VOTES.
McCARTHY IS LEANING RIGHT TOWARDS MAGA WITH ALL OF THESE
INVESTIGATIONS THAT THE BASE REALLY WANTS.
THE WEAPONIZATION OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HEARINGS, COVID
OVERSIGHT HEARINGS, AND HUNTER BIDEN'S LAPTOP.
>> AND THE BIDEN CRIME FAMILY.
>> THERE'S NEVER BEEN A SPEAKER WHO HAS BEEN PULLED IN MORE
DIRECTIONS THAN KEVIN McCARTHY. THAT'S A TRICKY BALANCE TO BE
ABLE TO DO THINGS THAT WILL PUT REPUBLICANS IN A DECENT POSITION
TO HOLD THE HOUSE IN 2024, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME HAVING TO CATER
TO HIS RIGHT FLANK. THAT'S KIND OF LIKE WALKING
SWORD SWALLOWING AND CHAIN SAW JUGGLING ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
>> THE ACTIONS HE HAD TO TAKE TO APIECE THE MAGA BASE AND HE WILL
CONTINUE TO HAVE TO TAKE TO KEEP HIS JOB AS SPEAKER ARE AT ODDS
AT WHAT HE SHOULD BE DOING TO KEEP THE HOUSE IN 2024.
>> TO GET A CLEAR PICTURE OF WHAT'S UNFOLDING AND ABOUT TO
UNFOLD OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT TWO YEARS IN THIS HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES UNDER REPUBLICAN MANAGEMENT, MAYBE THE BEST WAY
TO DO THAT IS TO GET REALLY DEEP INSIDE IT BY HANGING OUT WITH
TWO FRESHMEN MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, ONE DEMOCRAT, ONE
REPUBLICAN.
>> I'M GOING TO TALK TO MIKE LAWLER.
THE KEY FOR REPUBLICANS TAKING THE HOUSE WERE SEATS THAT
REPUBLICANS WON IN NEW YORK AND MIKE LAWLER WAS ONE OF THOSE WHO
WON IN A DISTRICT THAT BIDEN WON.
HE BEAT SEAN PATRICK MALONEY WHO WAS THE HEAD OF THE
CONGRESSIONAL CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE IN CHARGE OF DEMOCRATS' RACES.
HE SUPPORTED McCARTHY FOR SPEAKER
>> I'M GOING TO SPEND THE WEEK WITH THE BREAK OUT STAR ON THE
DEMOCRATIC SIDE, MAXWELL FROST. HE WAS ELECTED AT AGE 25.
>> AMERICA'S FIRST GEN Z CONGRESSMAN.
>> HE GOT INVOLVED IN POLITICS BECAUSE OF GUN VIOLENCE.
HE WAS IN COLLEGE WHEN THE PARKLAND SHOOTING HAPPENED,
DROPPED OUT OF SCHOOL TO BECOME A FULL-TIME ACTIVIST, HE HAS YET
TO GRADUATE FROM COLLEGE. HE IS ON THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE
AND HE HAD A PARTICULARLY STRONG VIRAL MOMENT IN THE TWITTER
FILES HEARING.
>> WHAT WAS THE TWEET ABOUT?
>> PLEASE EXCUSE ME LANGUAGE, THIS IS A DIRECT QUOTE BUT
CHRISSY TEIGEN PUFRD TO DONALD TRUMP AS A PUSSY ASS BITCH.
>> OKAY. FREE SPEECH.
WHAT DID THE TRUMP WHITE HOUSE DO.
>> TO MY UNDERSTANDING THE WHITE HOUSE REACHED OUT TO ASK THAT
THIS TWEET BE REMOVED.
>> PEOPLE LOOK AT THE FIRST TWO MONTHS OF McCARTHY'S SPEAKERSHIP
AND SAY SO FAR IT'S BEEN ONLY MILDLY BAT SHIT.
>> THERE IS A COUNTERNARRATIVE DEVELOP WHICH WAS REPORTED BY
KARL ROVE IN THE "WALL STREET JOURNAL" THAT QUIETLY HE HAS
BEEN MEETING WITH HAKEEM JEFFRIES, REFORMING THE WAY
HOUSE IS MEETING.
>> IS THERE SOME CHANCE THAT MAYBE THERE COULD BE SOME
BIPARTISANSHIP BIPARTISA
BIPARTISANSHIP? YOUR HOPE ALWAYS IS ETERNAL WITH
YOU.
>> MY EXPECTATIONS OF McCARTHY ARE SO LOW IT'S GOING TO BE
PRETTY EASY TO WALK OVER THAT BAR.
>> THAT'S TRUE.
>> I WOULD NOT PUT ME DOWN IN THE COLUMN OF OPTIMISTS.
SINCE NEWT GINGRICH TOOK CONTROL OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
IN THE 1994 ELECTIONS THE HOUSE HAS REALLY BEEN THE CENTRAL
FORUM FOR FREAK SHOW POLITICS IN AMERICA.
THE PARTISANSHIP, THE POLARIZATION, THE BITTERNESS,
THE LACK OF PRODUCTIVITY, THE GRIDLOCK, SINCE '95, REPUBLICANS
HAVE SEEMED INTENT ON BURNING DOWN THE HOUSE.
>> IT'S CONGRESS IS WORK.
>> THE REPUBLICANS IN CHARGE.
>> KEVIN'S HOUSE.
♪
>> JUST A LITTLE CHILLY.
>> ALL RIGHT. EVERYBODY READY?
>> WE HAD A GREAT DISCUSSION THIS MORNING ABOUT THE
CHALLENGES TO BUILDING HOUSING HERE IN THE SUBURBS OF NEW YORK
CITY AND ABOUT OUR JOINT OPPOSITION TO GOVERNOR HOCHUL'S
HOUSING PLAN AS CURRENTLY WRITTEN.
>> REGARDLESS OF WHAT LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT WE ARE AT, OUR
RESIDENTS EXPECT THAT WE ARE GOING TO FIGHT ON THEIR BEHALF.
>> THANK YOU.
>> TIP O'NEILL SAID ALL POLITICS IN LOCAL, DOESN'T GET MUCH MORE
LOCAL THAN WHAT YOU JUST DID HERE.
>> ABSOLUTELY. I MEAN, AT THE END OF THE DAY
THOSE ARE THE ISSUES THAT GET YOU ELECTED AND GET YOU
REELECTED. IT'S NOT THE FANTASY LAND THAT
IS WASHINGTON, D.C.
>> YEAH. YEAH.
>> THE REPUBLICAN HOUSE HAS A MARGIN OF FIVE MEMBERS AND IT
WAS FOUR SEATS FLIPPED IN NEW YORK FROM D TO R INCLUDING
YOURS.
>> NEW YORK WAS PIVOTAL. WE FLIPPED FOUR, BUT THE FIFTH
WAS THE KATKO SEAT WHICH WAS A BIDEN DISTRICT.
WE ACTUALLY WON SIX BIDEN DISTRICT SEATS IN NEW YORK.
>> WHAT WERE YOUR EXPECTATIONS OF WHAT IS LIKE TO BE A FRESHMAN
MEMBER OF CONGRESS AND HAVE YOU BEEN SURPRISED?
>> THERE WASN'T TOO MUCH THAT SURPRISED ME, EVEN THE SPEAKER
VOTE WHILE HISTORIC AND MAYBE SHOCK TO GO SOME, BUT THAT'S THE
SAUSAGE MAKING.
>> YOU WERE CRITICAL OF THE 20 MEMBERS WHO WERE HOLDING HOSTAGE
THE SPEAKER VOTE.
>> ABSOLUTELY. WE HAD A CONFERENCE VOTE, KEVIN
McCARTHY WON WITH OVER 85% OF THE VOTE WITHIN THE CONFERENCE,
AND I'M A BIG BELIEVER IN LOYALTY.
YOU STICK WITH THE ONE WHO BROUGHT YOU TO THE DANCE AND
KEVIN McCARTHY WAS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF ME.
HE AND HIS TEAM SPENT OVER $10 MILLION IN THIS RACE.
>> THERE IS THE NOTION THAT -- THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE A LOT
OF OVERREACH, OVERINVESTIGATION, LOOKING AT THE BIDEN CRIME
FAMILY, THAT SORT OF THING. IS THAT YOUR SENSE OF WHAT'S
HAPPENING NOW IN THE REPUBLICAN CONGRESS?
>> THE OBJECTIVE TO ME IS IF THERE ARE ISSUES TO INVESTIGATE,
FINE, WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO DO THAT, BUT GET THE FACTS
AND THE EVIDENCE. I'M NOT INTERESTED IN LET'S GO
IMPEACH THIS ONE, LET'S GO IMPEACH THAT ONE.
TO ME THAT HAS BEEN DESTRUCTIVE TO OUR POLITICS AND TO OUR
COUNTRY, AND FOR THAT TO CONTINUE ISN'T GOING TO SERVE
ANYBODY.
>> LET'S GO TO WASHINGTON, D.C.
>> HI. HI, JULIANNA.
YOU MISS ME? YEAH.
ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO GO INTO THE
AIRPORT.
>> OKAY. SAFE FLIGHT.
>> LOVE YOU. ♪
>> YOUR NEXT COUPLE THINGS ARE LIKE KIND OF STACKED.
RIGHT NOW IN A COUPLE MINUTES YOU'VE GOT THE LIVE INTERVIEW
WITH VICTOR.
>> WELCOME BACK. THIS IS A PODCAST POLITICS
ENGAGING RELEVANT FOR ALL GENERATIONS.
>> OUR GUEST TODAY IS THE NEWEST AND YOUNGEST REPRESENTATIVE FROM
FLORIDA, MAXWELL FROST.
>> AS A FIRST-TIME MEMBER, HOW DOES THIS HOUSE FEEL TO YOU?
IS IT WHAT YOU EXPECTED?
>> I DEFINITELY KNEW COMING INTO THIS I WOULD BE COMING IN A SLIM
REPUBLICAN MAJORITY, THAT THE VOICES OF THE FAR RIGHT EXTREME
MAGA PART OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WOULD HAVE THEIR POWER
INCREASED. I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IT WOULD BE
BY THIS MUCH.
>> COME BACK AND TALK TO US AGAIN.
>> YEAH. 100%.
ALL RIGHT. COOL.
SOUNDS GOOD. ALL RIGHT.
I'M GOING TO GO WORK.
>> TUCKER CARLSON IS FACING BIPARTISAN BLOW BACK.
>> FOX NEWS HOST REVEALING A SMALL PORTION OF THE 40,000
HOURS OF JANUARY 6th FOOTAGE GIVEN TO HIM AND ONLY HIM BY THE
HOUSE SPEAKER KEVIN McCARTHY.
>> THIS IS SOMETHING THAT PREMIERED LAST NIGHT IN WHAT
APPEARED TO BE AN ATTEMPT TO REWRITE WHAT HAPPENED ON JANUARY
6.
>> EVEN AS OUR FRESHMEN MEMBERS OF CONGRESS GO ABOUT THEIR
NORMAL DAY, HANGING OVER THE CAPITOL IS THE GHOST OF JANUARY
6. LAST NIGHT TUCKER CARLSON
RELEASED NEW FOOTAGE FROM JANUARY 6.
HE SHOWED SCENES OF RELATIVE PEACE.
HE SAID THAT THESE WERE JUST AKIN TO TOURISTS JUST GOING
THROUGH THE CAPITOL.
>> THE FOOTAGE DOES NOT SHOW AN INSURRECTION OR A RIOT IN
PROGRESS, INSTEAD IT SHOWS POLICE ESCORTING PROTESTERS
THROUGH THE BUILDING.
>> DEMOCRATS AND SOME SENATE REPUBLICANS ARE OUTRAGED.
>> IT WAS A MISTAKE IN MY VIEW FOR FOX NEWS TO DEPICT THIS IN A
WAY THAT'S COMPLETELY AT VARIANCE WITH WHAT OUR CHIEF LAW
ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL HERE AT THE CAPITOL THINKS.
>> I THINK IT'S BULLSHIT.
>> ON THE HOUSE SIDE A LOT OF REPUBLICANS HAVING A VERY
DIFFERENT VIEW OF WHAT HAPPENED ON JANUARY 6.
KEVIN McCARTHY SAID I'M JUST FOR TRANSPARENCY.
>> DO YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT ANYTHING THAT AIRED?
>> LOOK, I DIDN'T SEE WHAT WAS AIRED.
WHAT I WANT TO DO EXACTLY IS GIVE THE TRANSPARENCY
EVERYBODY --
>> WE ARE REMINDED THAT OUR TWO PARTIES, MAGA REPUBLICANS IN THE
HOUSE IN PARTICULAR, HAVE VERY DIFFERENT VIEWS OF REALITY.
>> THE HOUSE REPUBLICANS ARE RAMPING UP A BRAND-NEW
INVESTIGATION, NOT INTO JANUARY 6th, WHAT HAPPENED THEN, BUT
INTO THE JANUARY 6th COMMITTEE.
>> LIZ CHENEY HAS SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT T TWEETING THIS,
QUOTE, IF THE HOUSE GOP WANTS NEW JANUARY 6 HEARINGS, BRING IT
ON.
>> MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE, FOR EXAMPLE, TOLD US SHE IS GOING TO
LEAD A GROUP OF REPUBLICANS, SHE'S BEEN TRYING TO DEE
FIRSTHAND THE RIOTERS, SEIZING ON THIS TUCKER CARLSON FOOTAGE
AND THE WAY IT'S PORTRAYED.
>> WE SAW THEM COME AND DESCEND UPON THIS CHAMBER.
THIS CONGRESS. AND ALREADY THEY'RE BACK ON THE
NEWS WITH BIG LIES SAYING, NO, NO, NO, IT WAS A TOURIST VISIT.
>> WHAT TUCKER CARLSON DID IS REALLY DANGEROUS AND I THINK
THERE'S BEEN SOME BACKLASH, NOT ENOUGH, ESPECIALLY FOR THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY. WE SEE THE SPEAKER IS NOT
WANTING TO HOLD HIM ACCOUNTABLE AND SO IT CREATES A PROBLEM
WHERE IF THERE'S NOT REAL ACCOUNTABILITY WITH PEOPLE BEING
SYMPATHIZERS TOWARDS THE INSURRECTION, IT PUTS US IN A
POSITION WHERE PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THEY CAN DO IT AGAIN.
>> CNN REPORTED THAT THEY'RE LEANING MORE INTO JANUARY 6,
THAT THEY WANT TO HAVE HEARINGS ON THE INVESTIGATION OF JAN 6.
>> OBVIOUSLY THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE RUNS THE PLACE, RIGHT, AND
THE MAJORITY RUNS THE PLACE, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO REALLY
KEEP THAT IN MIND WHAT'S GOING ON HERE BECAUSE WE -- YOU KNOW,
WE WANT TO WORK ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WE WANT TO WORK ON GUN
VIOLENCE, WE WANT TO WORK ON CLIMATE CHANGE.
THE THINGS THAT THEY BROUGHT UP DURING THE MIDTERMS, INFLATION,
COST OF LIVING, YOU KNOW, INCREASING, ET CETERA, THEY'RE
NOT WORKING ON IT NOW.
>> WOW, WE HAVE SOME PIZZA. LOOK AT THIS.
>> THIS IS CLASSIC LATE MY CONGRESSIONAL OFFICE, RIGHT?
>> HOW IS IT GOING?
>> WHAT WOULD IT BE WITHOUT COLD PIZZA.
>> THAT'S IT.
>> WHAT'S YOUR REACTION TO WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THESE TAPES
WHICH THE SPEAKER GAVE EXCLUSIVELY TO CARLSON, DO YOU
THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA?
>> I THINK OBVIOUSLY THE SPEAKER IS GIVING HIM INITIAL ACCESS TO
IT. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE
TAPES ARE GOING TO BE FULLY RELEASED TO ALL OF THE PRESS.
AT THE END OF THE DAY THIS IS ABOUT TRANSPARENCY.
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW EVERYTHING THAT
HAPPENED, AND IT SHOULDN'T BE SELECTIVELY EDITED BY ANYBODY.
>> LET ME BACK UP AND STIPULATE THAT YOU BELIEVE THAT JOE BIDEN
IS A FREELY AND FAIRLY ELECTED PRESIDENT.
>> YES.
>> AND YOU BELIEVE THERE WAS A VIOLENT INN
VIOLENT INSURRECTION ON JANUARY 6.
>> YES.
>> DOESN'T IT COMPLICATE YOUR LIFE AS A REPUBLICAN WHEN YOU
HAVE THE FOX ECOSYSTEM AND OTHERS OUT THERE SAYING, WELL,
THERE REALLY WASN'T AN INSURRECTION, IT WAS A
PEACEFUL --
>> EVERYBODY HAS THEIR SPINS.
>> BUT YOU FACT ABOUT FACTS AND EVIDENCE.
>> CORRECT. BUT HERE IS THE PROBLEM, WHEN
NANCY PELOSI DOES NOT RELEASE ALL OF THE TAPES AND THE
FOOTAGE, HOW IS THAT CONSTRUCTIVE?
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW, TO SEE AND THAT
IS WHAT ULTIMATELY IS BEING DONE HERE.
SOME OF THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS DONE BY OTHER NEWS OUTLETS
AND THE FORMER SPEAKER WAS CLEARLY PARTISAN AND CLEARLY
MISLEADING.
>> MISLEADING IN WHAT WAY? THAT IT SHOWED VIOLENCE AND --
>> WELL, SELECTIVE. IT'S SELECTIVE.
>> BUT WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SHOW IS A CRIME BEING COMMITTED,
NOT THAT THERE WASN'T A CRIME BEING COMMITTED WHICH IS WHAT
TUCKER CARLSON IS DOING, HE'S TRYING TO SAY THERE WERE NO
CRIMES.
>> WHAT I'M SAYING IS RELEASE THE FOOTAGE, LET THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE SEE AND WE MOVE FORWARD. ♪
>> HELLO, BABY GIRL. YOU ARE GIVING ME A CUTE
LITTLE --
>> SO THERE IS A COUPLE GREAT LINES HERE.
GREAT LINES FROM ITALY.
>> THERE ARE ABOUT TEN PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE BETTER ON THIS
TOPIC BUT NONE OF THEM HAVE BETTER WINE.
♪ ♪
>> WHEN WE SAW YOU LAST WE HAD YOU ON BECAUSE WE WERE DOING A
MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE EPISODE, WHAT WE DIDN'T KNOW AT THIS
POINT WAS HOW SLIM THE MAJORITY WAS GOING TO BE FOR THE
REPUBLICANS TO WIN THE HOUSE, IT'S CLEAR McCARTHY WILL NEED
MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE AND THAT PART OF THE POWER TO WHEELED
POWER.
>> PEOPLE IN McCARTHY'S CASE ON THE FAR RIGHT DON'T LIKE WHAT
HE'S UP TO, ONE PERSON SAYS I MOVE TO VACATE --
>> IT MADE IT EASIER FOR THOSE WHO DON'T LIKE HIM TO DEPOSE
HIM.
>> HE HAS TO CATER TO THE PEOPLE ON THE FAR RIGHT, IF HE DOESN'T
DO THAT HE WON'T BE SPEAKER ANYMORE, ALL SORTS OF CHAOS
COULD ENSUE. ANY ONE PERSON CAN BE
DISRUPTIVE.
>> MATT GAETZ HAS SAID PUBLICLY THAT THE RELEASE OF THE JANUARY
6 FOOTAGE THAT HAPPENED THIS WEEK WAS PART OF WHAT McCARTHY
HAD TO DO TO BECOME SPEAKER.
>> YES, FOR SURE. I DO THINK THAT McCARTHY MADE
THE PLEDGE THAT, YES, I WILL RELEASE IT, IN ALL LIKELIHOOD
AND I BELIEVE -- I DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOLID EVIDENCE ON
THIS -- THAT MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE IS VERY CLOSE TO TUCKER
CARLSON, VERY CLOSE TO KEVIN McCARTHY, HELPED BROKER A DEAL
WHERE IT WAS UNDERSTOOD THAT TUCKER CARLSON WILL FERRET
THROUGH THE JANUARY 6 FOOTAGE AND THEY ARE NOT GOING TO AIR
ANYTHING THAT'S DAMAGE TO GO REPUBLICANS AND INDEED THEY DID
NOT.
>> CAN YOU IMAGINE A MOMENT WHERE McCARTHY LOOKS UP AND
SAYS, GUYS, YOU BETTER NEVER TALK ABOUT JANUARY 6 AGAIN, NOW
HAS COME TO STOP GIVING DEMOCRATS STICKS TO BEAT US
WITH. NOW IT'S TIME TO GROW UP AND
PLAY POLITICS TO WIN.
>> THAT'S NOT KEVIN McCARTHY. McCARTHY IS -- I DON'T MEAN THIS
UNKINDLY, BUT HE HAS KIND OF THE DISPOSITION OF A CAMP COUNSELOR,
YOU KNOW, NOT OF SOMEONE WHO IS GOING TO GO TOE TO TOE WITH THE
MOST FEROCIOUS MEMBERS OF HIS CONFERENCE AND SAY, STAND DOWN,
DAMMIT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS KID STUFF, IT'S TIME TO BEHAVE LIKE
ADULTS. IT WON'T HAPPEN.
I JUST SIMPLY DON'T SEE IT. AND THE MOMENT IT DOES, MOTION
TO VACATE.
>> SO A YEAR FROM NOW, WHAT ARE THE ODDS THAT McCARTHY IS STILL
SPEAKER?
>> THEY ARE NOT GOOD BUT I WOULDN'T SAY THAT McCARTHY IS
FINISHED BECAUSE YET AGAIN HE HAS NO ONE CHALLENGING HIM.
IT WAS CLEAR THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
DIDN'T LIKE HIM. THEY DIDN'T FIND A DAMN PERSON
TO RUN AGAINST HIM. JIM JORDAN WHO WOULD HAVE BEEN
PROBABLY THE MOST CREDIBLE OF ALL THE PEOPLE SAID I DON'T WANT
THE JOB BECAUSE WHO WOULD WANT THIS JOB?
WHO CAN HERD THESE CATS? WHAT McCARTHY IS IS KIND OF THE
GUY IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT WHO HAS HIS HANDS ON THE STEERING WHEEL
AND BASICALLY BELIEVES THAT THAT PROVES THAT HE'S THE LEADER, BUT
WHAT HE'S NOT DOING IT LOOKING AT THE GUN POINTED AT HIS BACK
BY THE PERSON BEHIND HIM SAYING TAKE A HARD RIGHT AND GO OVER
THE CLIFF. ♪
>> PRESIDENT BIDEN IS SET TO UNVEIL HIS BUDGET PROPOSAL LATER
TODAY.
>> THE PRESIDENT'S BUDGET PROPOSAL IS EFFECTIVELY DEAD ON
ARRIVAL IN A REPUBLICAN-LED HOUSE.
>> THIS IS A BUDGET DEBATE, IT'S ALSO LINKED TO THE DEBT CEILING
DEBATE.
>> REPUBLICANS HAVE MADE CLEAR THEY WILL NOT RAISE WITHOUT
CONCESSIONS FROM THE WHITE HOUSE.
>> HEY. GOOD TO SEE YOU, MAN.
YES, SIR. THAT'S MY NEIGHBOR.
>> LIKE YOUR NEIGHBOR FOR OFFICES --
>> NO, MY NEIGHBOR FOR DISTRICTS.
>> BIG NEWS TODAY IS THAT BIDEN IS PUTTING FORTH HIS BUDGET, SO
THAT SORT OF SIGNALS THE START OF WHAT WILL BE THE MOST
CONSEQUENTIAL ACTION THE CONGRESS HAS TO TAKE, RAISING DT
ET LIMIT.
>> NOTHING TO DO WITH FUTURE SPENDING.
>> RIGHT, IT'S MONEY THEY HAVE ALREADY SPENT.
>> YEAH.
>> WE KNOW WHEN SPEAKER McCARTHY MADE HIS DEALS TO GET ENOUGH
BUY-IN FROM THE MAGA CAUCUS TO WIN HE HAD TO MAKE A LOT OF
CONCESSIONS, SOME CONCESSIONS WERE ABOUT THE DEBT LIMIT.
>> YEAH.
>> HOW WORRIED ARE YOU ABOUT WHETHER THE REPUBLICANS WILL
TAKE US OVER THE -- THAT FISCAL CLIFF?
>> I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT HISTORY AND LOOK AT THE WHAT IT
WORKS THERE IS A FORMULA THAT THEY USE AND IT'S RIGHT THERE
AND USE THAT ANXIETY AND THAT HYPERBOLE AND EVERYTHING --
THERE ARE REAL CONSEQUENCES, BUT I THINK WE WILL SEE WHAT ENDS UP
HAPPENING AFTER THE BUDGET ACTUALLY COMES OUT.
>> THEY DON'T HAVE THE --
>> THEY ARE WITH ME. IF THEY MISBEHAVE I WILL KICK
THEM OUT, DON'T WORRY.
>> AS I'VE SAID REPEATEDLY, YOU HAVE TO REIN IN SPENDING.
WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO PRINT NEW MONEY IN THE MANNER THAT WE
HAVE.
>> I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR, BOTH SIDES ARE RESPONSIBLE.
>> EVERYBODY -- EVERYBODY IS IMMEDIATELY DEFENSIVE ABOUT
THIS, BUT THE REALITY IS BOTH SIDES HAVE BEEN IN POWER AND
BOTH SIDES HAVE ACCRUED DEBT.
>> SO BOTH SIDES SHOULD HAVE RESPONSIBILITY.
>> SO BOTH SIDES NEED TO COME TO THE TABLE, WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE
SAID REPEATEDLY AND WHAT THE SPEAKER HAS SAID.
THE PRESIDENT HAS TO NEGOTIATE IN GOOD FAITH.
>> HI, EVERYBODY. HOW ARE YOU?
>> MAGA REPUBLICANS ARE THREATENING TO DEFAULT ON THE
NATIONAL DEBT. I MEET WITH THE NEW SPEAKER, AS
I SAID, OF THE HOUSE AND HOW WE SHOULD PROCEED TO SETTLE OUR
DIFFERENCES WITHOUT JEOPARDIZING THE FULL FAITH AND CREDIT OF THE
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. NOW THEY'RE TELLING ME IF I
DON'T DO WHAT THEY WANT, CUT SOCIAL SECURITY, WHATEVER THEY
PROPOSE, THEN THEY'RE GOING TO RENEGE ON THE DEBT.
HERE IS WHAT I SAID, INSTEAD OF MAKING THREATS ABOUT DEFAULT,
LET'S TAKE THAT OFF THE TABLE.
>> THE HOUSE FREEDOM CAUCUS COMPOSED OF FISCAL CONSERVATIVES
PLEDGED THAT MEMBERS WON'T VOTE TO RAISE THE DEBT CEILING
WITHOUT $130 BILLION IN SPENDING CUTS.
>> IF McCARTHY CUTS A DEAL WITH DEMOCRATS THAT LEAVES YOU GUYS
OUT OF IT, ARE YOU WILLING TO USE --
>> SPEAKER McCARTHY IS NOT GOING TO CUT A DEAL WITH DEMOCRATS.
>> MEMBERS JUST MISSED PRESIDENT BIDEN'S NEW BUDGET AND HE
REJECTED THEIR DEMANDS.
>> HELLO, SIR.
>> HELLO, CONGRESSMAN. HOW ARE YOU?
>> GOOD. END OF A LONG WEEK.
>> GETTING READY TO GO HOME. THE CONSERVATIVE FREEDOM CAUCUS
MET THIS MORNING AND THEY SAID McCARTHY WILL NOT DO A DEAL WITH
DEMOCRATS, PERIOD.
>> HOW DO YOU NOT DO A DEAL WITH DEMOCRATS WHEN WE HAVE A
DEMOCRAT SENATE AND A DEMOCRAT WHITE HOUSE?
I MEAN, WE'RE GOING -- WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIND COMPROMISE
SOMEWHERE.
>> THERE'S A COMMON NARRATIVE AMONG DEMOCRATS AND A LOT OF THE
MEDIA THAT SPEAKER McCARTHY IS BEING HELD HOSTAGE BY A FEW
FRINGE MEMBERS AND THAT IT'S JUST ULTIMATELY A FREIGHT TRAIN
TO HELL AND NOTHING WILL GET DONE, IT WILL GO OFF THE FISCAL
CLIFF.
>> NIECE ARE THE SAME PEOPLE THAT WERE SAYING THAT McCARTHY
SOLD OUT ON THE SPEAKER'S VOTE AND GAVE AWAY TOO MUCH.
IF YOU ASK DEMOCRATS TODAY A LOT OF THEM WILL PRIVATELY TELL YOU,
DO YOU KNOW WHAT, THE HOUSE IS ACTUALLY FUNCTIONING REALLY
WELL. KEVIN McCARTHY HAS ALLOWED FOR A
REAL ROBUST DISCUSSION AND DEBATE AND THAT'S A GOOD THING
IN DEMOCRACY.
>> AND THERE ARE DEMOCRATS WHO ARE TELLING YOU THAT THEY THINK
THINGS ARE WORKING BETTER?
>> PRIVATELY.
>> NO NAMES, THOUGH, RIGHT?
>> IT'S KIND OF A CHAOTIC WEEK.
>> KIND OF, YEAH.
>> HOW DO YOU MAKE THIS SEEM WORTHWHILE WHEN YOU'RE JUST
CONTINUED TO BUMP UP AGAINST THIS MAGA OVERLOAD?
>> THAT IS A MAGA OVERLOAD.
>> YES.
>> I JUST TRY TO LOOK AT EVERY HEARING AND SEE, OKAY, WHAT CAN
WE GET OUT OF THIS THAT WILL ACTUALLY HELP US.
>> WHAT HAPPENS NEXT? FLYING BACK TO FLORIDA?
>> ALL WEEK WE'LL BE HOME. REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
>> YEAH. IS THAT BETTER THAN HERE?
>> YEAH, I LOVE BEING HOME. YEAH.
I LOVE BEING HERE AND ADVOCATING FOR HOME, BUT HOME IS THE PLACE
TO BE. ♪
>> WHAT'S UP?
>> NOT MUCH. WHAT'S GOING ON?
>> I DON'T KNOW. I'M ABOUT TO DO AN INTERVIEW, I
WILL GIVE YOU A CALL. OKAY.
I WILL DO IT. BYE-BYE.
SO WHAT'S UP? ♪
>> I'M CURIOUS WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THE FIRST SHOTS KIND OF
BEING FIRED HERE, THE FREEDOM CAUCUS AND WHAT'S GOING TO BE A
BIG DRAMA OVER THE DEBT CEILING.
>> I DO BELIEVE THAT IT IS SOMETHING THAT OUGHT BE DONE
WITHOUT REGARDS TO PARTISAN POLITICS.
WE DISAGREED WITH THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION BUT YOU DO
NOTHING TO JEOPARDIZE THE FAITH AND CREDIT IN THE UNITED STATES
OF AMERICA AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
>> SO IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IF SPEAKER McCARTHY TURNED TO HIS
RIGHT FLANK AND SAID, SORRY, CHILDREN, WE ARE NOT GOING TO
PLAY THIS GAME, WE ARE TOGETHER THIS DONE, TAKE ALL THE
DEMOCRATIC VOTES LIKE YOURS TO RAISE THE DEBT CEILING THAT
WOULD HAPPEN LIKE THAT, RIGHT? IS THERE ANY CHANCE THAT
McCARTHY WILL DO THAT?
>> I THINK HE WILL NEED TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHETHER OR
NOT HE WILL, I DON'T KNOW.
>> DO SOMETHING LIKE JUST MAKE A DEAL --
>> NOT MAKE A DEAL. NOBODY IS ASKING FOR A DEAL.
>> RIGHT.
>> WE'RE JUST SAYING JUST HAVE A CLEAN-CUT RAISING OF THE DEBT
CEILING. THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE A DEAL.
>> YOU'VE GOT 150 PLUS SITTING MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES WHO ARE ELECTION DENIERS, YOU KNOW, LIKE SORT
OF -- AT LEAST INN SUR EX-IST ADJACENT.
IS IT POSSIBLE IN THAT ENVIRONMENT FOR THERE TO BE
TRUST, BIPARTISANSHIP?
>> NO. IT'S NOT POSSIBLE.
SOMETHING HAS TO BREAK. THE FEVER HAS TO BREAK.
>> WHEN YOU SAY THAT, LIKE SOMETHING HAS TO BREAK, WHAT
DOES THAT LOOK LIKE?
>> IT COULD VERY WELL BE DEBT CEILING.
>> YES.
>> I JUST DO NOT BELIEVE THAT ANYBODY WOULD WANT THEIR LEGACY
TO BE PRESIDING OVER THE COLLAPSE OF THE FULL FAITH AND
CREDIT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
I JUST DON'T BELIEVE THAT.
>> OF ALL THE REPUBLICAN SPEAKERS THAT YOU HAVE SEEN
OPERATE UP CLOSE, DO YOU RESPECT BOEHNER?
>> ABSOLUTELY. I DON'T JUST RESPECT BOEHNER, I
LIKE PAINER
>> DO YOU RESPECT PAUL RYAN?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> DO YOU HAVE RESPECT AT THIS POINT FOR KEVIN McCARTHY?
>> NOT YET. I SAW BOEHNER AND I SAW PAUL
RYAN AND I SAW WHEN IT CAME TO PRINCIPLED LEADERSHIP, BOTH OF
THEM, WHEN THE REAL TEST CAME THEY PUT THE COUNTRY ABOVE SELF.
I'M WAITING TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT McCARTHY WILL DO THAT.
♪ ♪