>>> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, PLEASE RISE AND PLACE YOUR HAND OVER
YOUR HEART FOR THE NUMBER ONE SONG ON ITUNES, AMAZON AND THE
BILLBOARD CHARTS, "JUSTICE FOR ALL" FEATURING PRESIDENT DONALD
J. TRUMP AND THE J6 CHOIR. ♪ O, SAY CAN YOU SEE BY THE
DAWN'S EARLY LIGHT ♪
>> I PLEEJ
>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF
AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS --
♪ AND THE ROCKET'S RED GLARE, THE BOMBS BURSTING IN AIR ♪
♪ GAVE PROOF THROUGH THE NIGHT THAT OUR FLAG WAS STILL THERE ♪
>> ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND
JUSTICE FOR ALL.
>> O'ER THE LAND OF THE FREE AND THE HOME OF THE BRAVE ♪
>> USA! USA!
>> THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND THEIR LOCAL HENCHMAN AT THE A.G.
AND D.A.'S OFFICES, THEY MAKE LIVES MISERABLE, EVEN THOUGH
THEY KNOW THESE PEOPLE ARE INNOCENT.
IN MANY CASES, THEY'RE PATRIOTS. PROSECUTORIAL MISCONDUCT IS
THEIR NEW TOOL, AND THEY'RE WILLING TO USE IT AT LEVELS
NEVER SEEN BEFORE IN OUR COUNTRY.
AND PEOPLE SEE IT'S BULLSHIT, AND THEY GO AND THEY SAY IT'S
UNFAIR. REMEMBER EVERYTHING I'VE
ENDURED, ALL OF THE HITS, ALL OF THE ATTACKS, ALL OF THE
ASSAULTS. RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA, PHONY
DEAL. IMPEACHMENT HOAX NUMBER ONE,
PHONY DEAL. IMPEACHMENT HOAX NUMBER TWO,
PHONY DEAL. THE MUELLER WITCH HUNT, PHONY
DEAL. BY THE WAY --
AFTER 2 1/2 YEARS, THERE WAS NO COLLUSION WITH RUSSIA.
I COULD HAVE TOLD THEM THAT VERY EASILY.
WHEN THIS ELECTION IS OVER, I WILL BE THE PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES. YOU WILL BE VINDICATED AND
PROUD, AND THE THUGS AND CRIMINALS WHO ARE CORRUPTING OUR
JUSTICE SYSTEM WILL BE DEFEATED, DISCREDITED AND DISGRACED.
THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING.
>> WE LOVE TRUMP! WE LOVE TRUMP!
WE LOVE TRUMP!
♪ ♪
>>> THE GRAND JURY IS EXPECTED TO RECONVENE TODAY AND EXPECTED
TO HEAR TESTIMONY FROM ANOTHER WITNESS.
THIS IS A SECRET PROCESS, AND THERE CAN BE CURVEBALLS HERE.
>> THE GRAND JURY TODAY HEARD FROM DAVID PECKER, THE FORMER
PUBLISHER OF THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER.
>> HE'S A KEY FIGURE IN ALL THIS.
THIS IS HIS SECOND APPEARANCE. HE AND MICHAEL COHEN CAME UP
WITH THIS CATCH AND KILL PLAN TO COMBINE THE STORIES OF STORMY
DANIELS --
>> THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT.
>> SHE THINKS DAVID PECA MAY HAVE BEEN BROUGHT IN AS A
REBUTTAL WITNESS TO THE PRO TRUMP ATTORNEY ROBERT COSTELLO'S
TESTIMONY LAST WEEK.
>> I AGREE. TO THE EXTENT THAT COSTELLO
TRIED TO TELL THE GRAND JURY THAT THIS WAS ALL MICHAEL
COHEN'S IDEA, AND THAT HE WAS THE ONE WHO CAME ONE THE SCHEME
AND IT WASN'T KNOWN OR APPROVED BY THE FORMER PRESIDENT OR
ANYONE ELSE. DAVID PACKER IS ON RECORD SAYING
THAT'S NOT TRUE.
♪ ♪
>> THANK YOU. TAKE CARE.
>> HI. YEAH, YOU WANT TO BE ON TV?
>> THE THING IS, IT'S NOT JUST TO HAVE A PIZZA, BUT TO HAVE IT
BROUGHT TO YOU WITH THE HOT PEPPERS.
>> THAT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL.
>> THAT'S IT. THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO THAT
DON'T MAKE PIZZA THAT MATTER AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.
THANK YOU.
>> WE GOT THE BEST PIZZA AND THE BEST LAWYER IN TOWN, IN THAT
ORDER. [ LAUGHTER ]
>> THE SHOW IS BEING DONE ABOUT TRUMP'S LEGAL WOES.
IT NEVER OCCURRED TO ANYBODY TO GET A LAWYER IN HERE.
>> YOU'VE HAD A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN A CROSS SECTION OF
GOVERNMENT PROSECUTION.
>> THAT IS TRUE.
>> THE PIT BULL.
>> A WEEK AGO, WE BEGAN THE WEEK SAYING DONALD TRUMP IS ALMOST
CERTAIN TO INDICTED. NOW IT'S MONDAY AND WE'RE STILL
WAITING FOR THE INDICTMENTS. BUT YOU HAD THIS EXTRAORDINARY
PUBLIC CAMPAIGN OF INTIMIDATION, DESTABILIZATION.
>> THERE'S LIKE TEN DAYS OF HIM CREATING THIS NEW ECOSYSTEM
WHERE HIS BELIEVERS CAN BELIEVE THAT ALVIN BRAGG IS A DEGENERATE
ANIMAL, THERE WILL BE POTENTIAL DEATH AND DESTRUCTION IF THIS
HAPPENS, BECAUSE HIS INDICTMENT IS PART OF A LARGER, VERY SCARY,
DEEP STATE TAKEOVER.
>> WHAT KIND OF AN IMPACT CAN THIS HAVE ON A PROSECUTOR?
>> I DON'T KNOW. IN TERMS OF WHAT ALVIN BRAG IS
GOING TO DO, ZERO. IT WILL STIFFEN HIS SPINE.
>> DO YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IMPACT ON JURIES?
>> YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WITNESSES, JURIES, GRAND JURORS,
ALL OF THAT.
>> BUT TRUMP DID GET INDEEDED. INSTEAD WE FOUND OUT THAT DAVID
PECKER HAD BEEN CALLED BACK IN. HE ACTUALLY PERSONALLY HELPED
BROKER THE DEAL BETWEEN TRUMP AND STORMY DANIELS.
SO TAKING IT FOR GRANTED THAT YOU HAVE BEEN WRONG ON THIS
QUESTION, KNOWING THAT HE WAS A WITNESS, ARE YOU STILL THINKING
THE INDICTMENT WILL HAPPEN THIS WEEK, WEDNESDAY, OR ARE YOU
STARTING TO HAVE DOUBTS?
>> I THINK I'M GOING TO GO OUT ON A LIMB, WEDNESDAY.
IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WEDNESDAY.
>> GOING TO HAPPEN WEDNESDAY?
>> IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WEDNESDAY.
WHY WEDNESDAY? WHAT ELSE IS THERE TO DO?
ARE YOU GOING TO REALLY SHOW THIS IF I SAY IT'S WEDNESDAY AND
IT'S NOT?
>> ALMOST CERTAINLY, YES.
>> THERE IS A NEW SHERIFF IN WASHINGTON, D.C. ON THE
CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS AND JANUARY 6th.
TELL US ABOUT JACK SMITH.
>> HE IS NO NONSENSE, EXTREMELY EXPERIENCED.
IF YOU'RE DONALD TRUMP, THAT WAS NOT A GOOD DEVELOPMENT.
>> A YEAR FROM NOW, LOOKING AT ALL THESE CASES, WHAT'S THE
WORST POSSIBLE SCENARIO FOR DONALD TRUMP RUNNING FOR
PRESIDENT. WHAT KIND OF CHARGE ALSO BE
LAYING OVER HIS DEAD?
>> IT COULD BE INDICTED IN MANHATTAN AND GEORGIA, INDICTED
FOR ENGAGING IN INSURRECTION, AND ALSO INDICTED FOR ILLEGAL
RETENTION OF CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS AND OBSTRUCTING A
NATIONAL SECURITY INVESTIGATION. THAT'S THE WORST CASE SCENARIO.
>> THE MOST IMPORTANT OF THESE CASES FOR HISTORY WAS THE
JANUARY 6th CASE. WHAT HAPPENED IN WACO WAS TRUMP
HAS NOW DECIDED IT'S NOT LIKE 1/6 WASN'T AS BAD AS YOU THOUGHT
IT WAS. IT WAS A GLORIOUS DAY IN OUR
HISTORY WHERE THE PATRIOTS DID THE RIGHT THING.
IF YOU STAND ON STAGE AND PUT YOUR HAND ON YOUR HEART AND HAVE
THIS INSURRECTIONISTS SINGING THE NATIONAL ANTHEM.
>> THE MOST UN-AMERICAN THING THAT YOU CAN IMAGINE.
>> PEOPLE STILL BELIEVE WHAT THEY WANT TO BELIEVE, AND THEY
BELIEVE WHAT HE TELLS THEM TO BELIEVE.
>> RIGHT. SO IN THE INSURRECTION CASE, IF
IT COMES, LIKE WHAT IS AT STAKE?
>> HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE IN JAIL BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY
ENGAGED IN INSURRECTION AND SEDITIOUS CONSPIRACY AND YOU
DON'T HOLD DONALD TRUMP ACCOUNTABLE, I MEAN, WHAT IS THE
MESSAGE TO ANY FUTURE PRESIDENT?
>> ACCOUNTABILITY REALLY MATTERS, BUT WHY THIS CASE
MATTERS SO MUCH ISN'T JUST FOR HISTORY.
IT'S LIKE FOR NOW. I MEAN, THE BIG LIE IS GOING TO
BECOME THE BASIS FOR THE REPUBLICAN FRONT-RUNNER'S
CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT. YOU'RE LITIGATING NOT JUST AN
EVENT THAT HAPPENED ON JANUARY 6th, YOU'RE LITIGATING THE
FUTURE.
>> THE COUNTRY IS DIVIDED, A MEDIA, YOU CAN'T TRUST THEM, THE
POLITICIANS, YOU CAN'T TRUST THEM.
THE ONLY THING THAT'S LEFT WHERE THERE IS A CHANCE TO ADJUDICATE
WHAT'S REAL AND WHAT'S NOT REAL IS THE COURTS.
>> WHERE THE TRUTH CATCHES UP TO HIM.
>> EXACTLY.
>> IT'S THE BEST CHANCE THAT YOU HAVE TO GET TO THE TRUTH, THE
WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
♪ ♪
>> WE'RE LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE NEW YORK GRAND JURY
INVESTIGATION OF DONALD TRUMP. THE PANEL WON'T HEAR THE HUSH
MONEY CASE AGAIN THIS WEEK.
>> THREE LETTERS -- TBD. TO BE DETERMINED.
♪ ♪
>> IN NEW YORK, THEY'RE STILL WAITING ON AN INDICTMENT.
WE'RE IN CEDAR RAPIDS, IOWA, AND MIKE PENCE IS HERE TODAY WHICH A
JUDGE HAS JUST RULED HE MUST TESTIFY ABOUT CONVERSATIONS HE'S
HAD WITH DONALD TRUMP ABOUT JANUARY 6th.
>> THE JUDGE HAS RULED UNDER THE CONSTITUTIONAL, THE SPEED FOR
DEBATE CLAUSE, HE WILL NOT HAVE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT HIS
OFFICIAL ROLE AS PRESIDENT OF THE SENATE.
>> HOW ARE YOU?
>> THANKS FOR COMING.
>> YES, SIR.
>> WE'RE GOING THIS WAY?
>> YEAH.
>> THAT WAS REALLY INSPIRATIONAL.
>> IT'S MORE THAN I CAN TELL YOU.
>> HEY, EVERYBODY.
>> I WANTED TO ASK YOU, WHAT'S YOUR PLAN WITH THE FEDERAL
JUDGE'S DECISION THAT YOU WILL NEED TO TESTIFY BEFORE THE GRAND
JURY?
>> WE'LL BE SPEAKING WITH OUR ATTORNEYS IN WASHINGTON BEFORE
THE END OF THE WEEK AND SORTING OUT WHAT OUR NEXT STEPS ARE.
>> YOU SAID THAT HISTORY WILL BE A JUDGE OF DONALD TRUMP
REGARDING JANUARY 6th. IN ORDER FOR HISTORY TO
ACCURATELY JUDGE HIM, IT HAS TO HAVE ALL THE FACTS AND YOU'RE AT
THE HEART OF THAT STORY.
>> I AM.
>> HOW IMPORTANT IS IT TO TELL EVERYTHING THAT YOU KNOW?
>> MARK, IF YOU READ MY BOOK AND LISTEN TO THE SPEECHES AND
INTERVIEWS THAT I'VE DONE OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS, YOU'LL KNOW
THAT I THINK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DESERVE THE WHOLE STORY.
I'VE BEEN SHARING THAT TRUTH WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
AND I'LL CONTINUE TO. WE HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE.
I'M PROUD OF WHAT I DID ON THAT DAY.
I BELIEVE WE DID RIGHT UNDER THE CONSTITUTION, AND IN SERVICE OF
THE NATION. AND I'M PLEASED THE COURT AGREED
WITH US, THAT IN FACT THE SPEECH AND DEBATE CLAUSE DOES APPLY TO
THE VICE PRESIDENT WHEN THEY SEVEN AS PRESIDENT OF THE
SENATE. BUT WE WANT TO OPERATE IN THIS
ENVIRONMENT AND THIS CONTEXT IN A WAY THAT'S JUST AS FAITHFUL TO
THE CONSTITUTION AS I WAS ON THAT FATEFUL DAY.
♪ ♪
>> I'VE ONLY BEGUN MY TORTURE AND I'VE BEEN WRONG YET AGAIN
ABOUT WHEN THE MANHATTAN INDICTMENT MIGHT COME.
WHAT DID YOU MAKE OF THE NEWS THAT MIKE PENCE IS GOING TO HAVE
TO TESTIFY?
>> JACK SMITH TAKING THIS THING OVER HAS PUT A SHOT IN THE ARM
TO THE INVESTIGATION. YOU SEE GRAND JURY ACTIVITY
AFTER GRAND JURY ACTIVITY. ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT RAPID
FIRE COURT ACTIONS LEADS ME TO THINK, HEY, THE SHOW IS FINALLY
ON THE ROAD. ♪ ♪
>> THIS IS NOT A GOTCHA. BUT IN THAT MOMENT --
>> TODAY, I SIGNED AN ORDER APPOINTING JACK SMITH TO SERVE
AS COUNSEL.
>> YOUR REACTION WAS DIFFERENT.
>> THIS IS SO GOTCHA.
>> HERE'S YOUR THING, I DON'T SEE WHAT THE CASE IS FOR A
SPECIAL COUNSEL. GARLAND SAID IT WAS FOR A
CONFLICT OF INTEREST. THAT'S LIKE ASSAYING
THAT'S LIKE ASSAYI ING THAT'S LIKE ASSAYI IING
THAT'S LIKE ASSAYI II ING THAT'S LIKE ASSAYI II IING -- L
SAYING GARLAND ISN'T UP TO THE TASK.
>> THE PREFERENCE HAS BEEN THAT THE U.S. JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, RUN
BY GARLAND, WILL RUN AN EXPEDITIOUS, FAST INVESTIGATION
THAT GOT TO THE BOTTOM OF IT. IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE THAT HAPPEN.
IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S HAPPENING NOW WITH JACK SMITH.
IT'S NOT JUST JACK SMITH BUT THE COURTS ARE MOVING QUICKLY.
>> BOB MUELLER, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION
AFTER THE FIRING OF JIM COMEY.
>> I WORKED WITH HIM TWICE BEFORE.
WHAT I THOUGHT WAS A PERFECT PERSON, ABSOLUTELY STERLING
REPUTATION AMONGST DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS IN WASHINGTON.
I THOUGHT IT WAS THE AFFIRMATION OF THE RULE OF LAW TO HOW WE
WERE GOING TO PROCEED WHEN A LOT OF PEOPLE THOUGHT THAT WAS
SOMETHING THAT WAS SEVERELY UNDER ATTACK.
>> BOB BARR WAS LIKE A FUCKING MARVEL HERO.
IT WAS LIKE MUELLER TIME.
>> PEOPLE THAT WANT TO SEE TRUMP BROUGHT TO JUSTICE, THIS IS THE
GUY WHO WILL SAVE US, WHO WILL PROVE THAT TRUMP STOLE THE
ELECTION AND OBSTRUCTED JUSTICE AND THEY GOT ALL EXCITED.
YOU WERE LIKE, DOWN GOES STONE. TRUMP WILL BE NEXT.
THEN COMES THAT FATEFUL WEEKEND WHEN BILL BARR GETS OUT IN FRONT
OF THE WHOLE THING, STARTS TO CHARACTERIZE THE REPORT.
>> WE ALL THOUGHT, WE INTENDED OUR SUMMARIES TO BE WHAT BARR
WAS GOING TO MAKE PUBLIC. AND BARR HIMSELF MADE A
CONCLUSION THAT WAS NOT OUR CONCLUSION.
HE SAID, I'M JUST GOING TO WRITE A SUMMARY ON MY OWN, MISLEAD THE
PUBLIC, AND I'LL TAKE MY SWEET TIME BEFORE I REVEAL WHAT IT IS
THAT YOU FOUND.
>> IDEA THAT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL WOULD BE IN ON IT AND
WOULD WRITE A CRAZY SUMMARY OF THE REPORT, NOT SELLING THE
AMERICAN PUBLIC THAT THE REASON WHY YOU ALL DECIDED NOT TO
INDICT WAS BECAUSE A SITTING PRESIDENT COULDN'T BE INDICTED
UNDER DOJ POLICY, NOT BECAUSE OF THE FACTS.
THAT'S THE WHOLE BALL GAME.
>> YOU THOUGHT THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT DETAIL?
>> IT WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW --
>> BASICALLY, IT ALLOWED TRUMP AND BARR TO SPIN AND LIE ABOUT
THE REPORT AND SEIZE THE NARRATIVE.
>> NO COLLUSION. NO OBSTRUCTION.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.
>> MR. PRESIDENT.
>> AMERICANS FOR ACCOUNTABILITY WALK INTO ANOTHER SPECIAL
COUNSEL GOING, THEY HAVE NO FAITH IN THIS.
IF I'M JACK SMITH, I'M THINKING WHAT CAN I LEARN FROM MULEER?
>> TWO HUGE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO CONTEND WITH THAT HE DOESN'T,
ONE, HE CAN CHARGE DONALD TRUMP. WE COULDN'T.
THERE WAS GOING TO BE NO INDICTMENT OF A SITTING
PRESIDENT UNDER THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE POLICY.
THE OTHER IS THAT PEOPLE WE WERE INVESTIGATING AND THE ULTIMATE
PERSON WE WERE VILGTING HAD THE POWER TO PARDON PEOPLE.
SO GETTING PEOPLE TO FLIP HUGELY PROBLEMATIC.
THERE MAY BE A GET OUT OF JAIL FREE CARD.
>> TRUMP IS DANGLING PARDONS ON AIR.
>> THE OTHER PIECE WHICH I THINK YOU'RE SEEING IS, YOU DON'T HAVE
TO WORRY ABOUT BEING FIRED, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE
WHITE HOUSE INTERFERENCE, OR ATTORNEY GENERAL INTERFERENCE.
>> IS THERE A CHANCE TOMORROW THAT THE GRAND JURY COULD
SURPRISE US ALL IN MANHATTAN AND GIVE US AN INDICTMENT THAT
WOULD, IF NOT CLEAR DONALD TRUMP'S NAME, QUITE TO THE
CONTRARY, BUT WOULDN'T THAT CLEAR OTHERS?
>> TOMORROW COULD BE THE DAY, YES.
IT COULD.
>> YOU'VE BROUGHT WAY MORE CASES TO THE SUPREME COURT, BUT THE
THING YOU DON'T DO AS WELL AS HIM, GET IN A DEEP HOLE AND JUST
KEEP DIGGING.
>> NEW YORK GRAND JURY INVESTIGATION INTO DONALD
TRUMP'S ROLE IN AN ALLEGED HUSH MONEY SCHEME IS NOT MOVING AS
QUICKLY AS SOME ANTICIPATED. THE GRAND JURY INVESTIGATING IS
GETTING READY TO GO ON A BREAK. A VOTE ON A POSSIBLE INDICTMENT
WILL NOT LIKELY HAPPEN UNTIL LATE APRIL.
>> STILL NO INDICTMENT. PEOPLE ARE WONDERING SHOULD WE
INFER ANY PROBLEM FROM THE FACT THAT THE GRAND JURY IS GOING TO
GO ON AN EXTENDED HIATUS? MIGHT BRAGG BE HAVING SECOND
THOUGHTS OR MIGHT BRAGG BE BRINGING IN ANOTHER WITNESS TO
HELP SHORE UP HIS CASE?
>> WE ARE COMING ON THE AIR WITH HISTORIC NEWS.
FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER IN AMERICAN HISTORY, A FORMER
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES HAS BEEN INDICTED.
>> A NEW YORK GRAND JURY HAS JUST VOTED TO INDICT FORMER
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP.
>> HE'S BEEN INDICTED AT A FELONY LEVEL FOR FINANCIAL
CRIMES.
>> REPUBLICANS REACTING TO DONALD TRUMP'S INDICTMENT.
>> THE UNPRECEDENTED INDICTMENT OF A FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES ON A CAMPAIGN FINANCE ISSUE IS AN OUTRAGE.
>> THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN TERMS OF CRIMINAL
ACCOUNTABILITY. IT IS REALLY A TESTAMENT TO THE
AMERICAN CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, AND THE RULE OF LAW.
>> I'M HEADING TO 30 ROCK. OKAY.
>> THIS FROM DONALD TRUMP, FORMER PRESIDENT.
HE SAID THE DEMOCRATS HAVE LIE, CHEATED AND STOLEN IN THEIR
OBSESSION WITH TRYING TO GET TRUMP, BUT NOW THEY HAVE DONE
THE UNTHINKABLE. INDICTING AN INNOCENT PERSON IN
AN ACT OF ELECTION INTERFERENCE.
>> WE DON'T KNOW WHAT CHARGES HE WILL FACE.
BUT THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY IS NOW NEGOTIATING TRUMP'S LEGAL
SURRENDER.
>> THIS PROCESS IS GOING TO BE ONE WHERE THERE ISN'T A SORT OF
SHOW TRIAL OR A KANGAROO COURT, WHERE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR
AMERICANS TO SEE AND FOR THE WORLD TO SEE THAT THE RULE OF
LAW HERE CAN WORK IN A WAY THAT I THINK FOR MANY PEOPLE,
INCLUDING MYSELF, I THINK MANY PEOPLE WERE GIVING UP HOPE THAT
THERE WOULDN'T BE ACCOUNTABILITY.
>> HEY.
>> HI.
>> YOU WERE RIGHT.
>> I HEARD TOMORROW NIGHT FOR DINNER, WE'RE HAVING -- WHAT WAS
THAT BIRD?
>> CROW.
>> REVENGE IS A DISH BEST SERVED, ANDREW.
>> WE'RE COLD.
>> HEY, WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT WHAT HAS TRANSPIRED AND WHAT IS
ABOUT TO TRANSPIRE?
>> WE HAVE INFORMATION THAT THERE ARE MULTIPLE FELONIES.
>> WOW.
>> CNN WAS SAYING 34 COUNTS ON THE BUSINESS RECORDS THING.
>> ANDREW, WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT DONALD TRUMP BEING PROCESSED?
>> WE HEARD THAT DONALD TRUMP IS NOT GOING TO SURRENDER UNTIL
EARLY NEXT WEEK.
>> IT'S A LONG ROAD FROM YOUR START OF MUELLER TO NOW.
THIS IS LIKE MARCH 30th, 2023. WE'RE SITTING OUT IN FRONT OF
THE COURTHOUSE. HOE
HOW DOES IT FEEL?
>> THINKING BACK TO JIM COMEY AND WHAT HE DID, THEN THE
MUELLER INVESTIGATION WHERE WE SAW IT GO NOWHERE, AND THIS
FEELS LIKE TODAY THE RULE OF LAW IS APPLYING TO SOMEBODY
REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY'RE THE FORMER PRESIDENT OR NOT.
>> JUST SEEING THAT ON THE FRONT PAGE OF "THE NEW YORK TIMES,"
GRAND JURY VOTES TO INDICT TRUMP.
IT LOOKS LIKE HISTORY. DOES IT FEEL LIKE HISTORY?
>> IT FEELS LIKE THE NIXON RESIGNATION, WATCHING HIM GO
BEHIND THE WHITE HOUSE INTO THE HELICOPTER AND WATCHING HIM TAKE
OFF. AND THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, SOME
REAL CONSEQUENCE TO HIM, AND THIS FEELS THE SAME WAY, THAT
THERE IS A CONSEQUENCE TO YOUR ACTIONS.
>> I MEAN, HE'S A MAN WHO LIVES IN HIS OWN UNIVERSE OF HIS OWN
CREATION. BUT EVENTUALLY, THE LAW CATCHES
UP WITH YOU.
>> EVERYONE WILL REMEMBER WHERE THEY WERE WHEN TRUMP WAS
INDICTED. WHAT DID YOU THINK WHEN IT WAS
ANNOUNCED?
>> IT TOOK A LOT OF COURAGE FOR ALVIN BRAGG TO PULL THAT
TRIGGER. AS A FORMER PROSECUTOR, I WAS
LIKE, THE BALLS ON THIS GUY. I LIKE IT.
BEING A BLACK MAN, I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T ACKNOWLEDGE
THAT THERE WAS A SENSE OF PRIDE FOR ANYONE WHO HAS NEVER BEEN IN
THAT POSITION, THAT TOOK A LOT OF COURAGE.
I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT HOW CHEER
ABOUT HOW CHELEAR CUT IT WAS.
>> I SUDDENLY HEARD IT ON TELEVISION.
I HAD CABLE ON, AND I THOUGHT HOLY COW, THIS IS GOING TO BLOW
EVERYTHING UP. BUT AS A HISTORIAN, I THOUGHT
OH, GOD, I'M GOING TO BE ASKED ABOUT EUGENE V. DEBS.
>> WARREN HARDY, THE GOLDEN OLDIES OF SCANDAL.
>> I JUST WALKED OUT OF A FOCUS GROUP AND GOOD THE NEWS, AND
SENT IT TO MY TEAM. WE NEED THIS TOMORROW.
I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT THIS.
>> TRUMP COMES TO NEW YORK NEXT WEEK.
SOMETHING WILL HAPPEN.
>> LOTS OF STUFF WILL HAPPEN.
>> I THINK PEOPLE ARE REALLY GOING TO LEARN THE MYRIAD OF
WAYS THAT LAWYERS CAN MAKE MONEY.
WHAT I MEAN BY THAT, LAWYERS CAN LOOK FOR ANY REASON TO TRY TO
FILE A MOTION TO DISMISS.
>> THIS HAPPENS BEFORE THE ELECTION OR NOT?
>> THERE'S A CHANCE THAT THE ELECTION COULD ARRIVE AND THIS
TRIAL WILL NOT HAVE STARTED.
>> DO EITHER OF YOU LAWYERS THINK THAT ANY OF THESE CASES
AGAINST TRUMP WILL BE ADJUDICATE AGAINST TRUMP WILL BE ADJUD
ADJUDICATED IN COURT BEFORE THE ELECTION?
>> I THINK THE MAR-A-LAGO CASE MIGHT BE.
I THINK IT'S SO READY.
>> I THINK THE MAR-A-LAGO CASE COULD BE CONCLUDED BY THE TIME
OF THE ELECTION.
>> I THINK IT COULD BE CONCLUDED.
>> WOW.
>> THAT CASE IS CLEAN, IT IS SIMPLE.
FEDERAL CASES GO QUICKER. TAKE PAUL MAN FOR THE
TAKE PAUL MAN FOR IA TAKE PAUL MAN FOR MANIAFORT, FO
MONTHS.
>> DO YOU THINK THAT ANY REPUBLICAN VOTERS WHO ARE FIRMLY
ENTRENCHED WITH THE PARTY, DO YOU THINK THAT THERE'S REALLY
ANY CASE THAT COULD COME THAT WOULD MAKE THEM RETHINK THEIR
NARRATIVE?
>> I'LL JUST TELL YOU, SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, I'VE DONE
SEVEN GROUPS. THEY VOTED FOR TRUMP BOTH TIMES.
I DID A GROUP TONIGHT. IT WAS THE FIRST GROUP ALL YEAR,
EVERY SINGLE PERSON WENT FOR TRUMP.
PRIOR TO THIS, THEY HAVE BEEN BREAKING FOR RON DeSANTIS IN A
LOT OF WAYS. BUT THESE VOTERS, THEY'RE MAD.
>> IT'S LIKE CLOSE RANKS.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> BUT FOR THOSE VOTERS WHO WILL BE REPUBLICAN VOTERS IN THE
NOMINATION, IF HE'S INDICTED IN ONE, TWO, THREE DIFFERENT
FORUMS, THREE INDICTMENTS? THIS JUST MAKES TRUMP MORE OF A
LOSER. DOES THAT KICK IN?
>> SINCE 2022, I HAVE SEEN THAT DYNAMIC.
THERE'S THIS BIG CHUNK OF VOTERS LIKE, I WANT TO MOVE ON FROM
TRUMP, WE HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY THAT CAN WIN.
ONE FACTOR, WE ALL KNOW THAT THE INDICTMENTS ARE GOING TO HELP
TRUMP IN THE SHORT-TERM. WHAT DOES SHORT-TERM MEAN?
DOES IT MEAN FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS?
OR IS IT THE DURATION OF THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY?
AND THE SECOND IS, DOES SOMEBODY RISE UP AND SEIZE THAT GROUP OF
PEOPLE READY TO MOVE ON? EVERYBODY IS TALKING ABOUT TRUMP
ALL THE TIME. AND HE'S ONE OF THE FEW PEOPLE
WHO KNOWS HOW TO -- HE SUCKS UP THAT OXYGEN.
EVERYONE ELSE IS DYING FROM LACK OF OXYGEN.
>> IF TRUMP IS GOING TO GO ON AN INDICTMENT TOUR, PLAY GUNS AND
ROSES, KID ROCK, I WAS INDICTED, THEY'LL REDO "LOCK HER UP" WITH
HILLARY CLINTON AGAIN. THAT'S WHERE THIS IS HEADED.
I SUSPECT TRUMP WILL USE HIS MUGSHOT AS A CAMPAIGN RELIC.
THEY'LL MAKE SOUVENIR POSTERS OF TRUMP.
>> THEY ALL SAID THEY WOULD BUY ONE IN THE FOCUS GROUP I WAS IN
TODAY.
>> TRUMP NEEDS TO OWN THAT AND BECOME THE OUTLAW PRESIDENT, OR
THE MEDIA CULTURE WILL DEFINE HIM AS A CRIMINAL.
>> HE WENT ON SEAN HANNITY. MOST EX-PRESIDENTS, LIKE
LINCOLN, ROOS VET LINCOLN, ROOS VEVELTROOSEVELT,
QUOTING FROM JESSE JAMES, THE BANK ROBBER.
>> WHY DOES IT MATTER THAT A FORMER PRESIDENT IS HELD TO
ACCOUNT THROUGH THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM?
>> THERE IS THIS MORAL HIGH GROUND THAT THE UNITED STATES
PURSUES ON THE GLOBAL STAGE. WE POSITION OURSELVES IN THIS
SPACE AS A BASTION OF DEMOCRACY. SO THE STRESS TEST FOR AMERICAN
DEMOCRACY IS REALLY CAN YOU HAVE SOMEONE, WHO HAS BEEN AT THE
HIGHEST OF THE HIGH, AT THE TOP OF THE TOP, VIOLATE WHAT YOU ALL
SAY IS YOUR SYSTEM AND YOUR INSTITUTIONS, AND THAT PERSON BE
HELD ACCOUNTABLE? THAT'S WHY IT MATTERS.
>> IF YOU LOOK WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS,
EVEN WITH THE INDICTMENT, THAT THE ONE LESSON IS DONALD TRUMP
IS GOING TO BE WITH US FOR A WHILE.
>> I THINK THAT'S RIGHT. I ALSO THINK THE REPUBLICANS
HAVE AGENCY HERE. THE VOTERS, THE ELECTED
OFFICIALS, RIGHT WING INFO TAINMENT INDUSTRY, THEY HAVE
THIS ENERGY THAT FEEDS OFF EACH OTHER.
AND ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE ONE PART OF THAT.
THEY WANT TRUMP GONE. IT IS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO DO
SOMETHING ABOUT IT. IF THEY DON'T, IT'S ON THEM.
>> YOU THINK THEY'RE GONNA?
>> I DON'T. AND THE ONLY REASON I DON'T IS
BECAUSE I'VE NEVER SEEN THEM DO IT.
♪ ♪
♪ YOU GOT ME HISSING LIKE A SNAKE ♪