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 >>> LEGAL TROUBLE IS GROWING FOR 
 FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP.           

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 >> IT'S COMING FROM ALL SIDES AT 
 ONCE RIGHT NOW.                   

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 >> THE FBI EXECUTED A SEARCH      
 WARRANT AT FORMER PRESIDENT       

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 TRUMP'S MAR-A-LAGO ESTATE.        

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 >> 11 SETS OF CLASSIFIED          
 DOCUMENTS.                        

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 >> "THE WASHINGTON POST" REPORTS 
 THAT SOME OF THE MATERIALS        

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 INCLUDED NUCLEAR INTELLIGENCE.    

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 >> ATTORNEY GENERAL MERRICK       
 GARLAND SAID THAT TRUMP WOULD     

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 NOT BE IMMUNE FROM INVESTIGATION 
 OR PROSECUTION.                   

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 >> I PERSONALLY APPROVED THE      
 DECISION TO SEEK A SEARCH         

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 WARRANT IN THIS MATTER.           

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 >> THE COMMITTEE INVESTIGATING    
 THE JANUARY 6th ATTACK ON THE     

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 U.S. CAPITOL RETURNS THIS WEEK.   

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 >> IN A SERIES OF INTERVIEWS,     
 MEMBERS RECOMMEND THAT FORMER     

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 PRESIDENT TRUMP COULD FACE        
 CRIMINAL CHARGES FOR THE ATTACK. 

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 >> THE DOORS HAVE OPENED, NEW     
 SUBPOENAS HAVE BEEN ISSUED, AND   

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 THE DAM HAS BEGUN TO BREAK.       

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 >> ATTORNEY GENERAL LETICIA       
 JAMES FILED A LAWSUIT ACCUSING    

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 TRUMP AND HIS CHILDREN OF FRAUD. 

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 >> DONALD TRUMP FALSELY INFLATED 
 HIS NET WORTH BY BILLIONS OH OF   

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 DOLLARS TO UNJUSTLY ENRICH        
 HIMSELF AND TO CHEAT THE SYSTEM. 

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 THEREBY CHEATING ALL OF US.       

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 >> FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP IS      
 FACING WHAT COULD BE HIS          

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 GREATEST LEGAL PERIL EVER.        

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 >> HOW DO YOU FEEL MR. TRUMP,     
 HOW DO YOU FEEL?                  

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 >> USA!                           
 USA!                              

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 USA!                              

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 >> THE ONLY THING THESE DERANGED 
 LEFTIST CARE ABOUT IS TRYING TO   

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 DESTROY YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT, 
 ME.                               

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 HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF ME?        
 FOR SIX STRAIGHT YEARS, IT'S      

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 BEEN ONE WITCH HUNT AFTER         
 ANOTHER.                          

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 THE RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA SCAM, 
 REMEMBER THAT?                    

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 IMPEACHMENT HOAX NUMBER ONE.      
 LIZ CHENEY AND HER BAND.          

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 THE UNSELECT COMMITTEE ON         
 JANUARY 6.                        

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 THERE'S NEVER BEEN A PRESIDENT    
 THAT'S GONE THROUGH THE CRAP      

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 THAT I'M GOING THROUGH LEFT AND   
 RIGHT.                            

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 YOU FEEL LIKE A FIGHTER, LEFT     
 AND RIGHT.                        

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 AND THEN YOU GET UP AND KNOCK     
 THE HELL OUT OF THEM.             

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 >>> BEAUTIFUL.                    

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 >> I COULD EAT THIS FOR THE REST 
 OF MY LIFE.                       

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 >> WHAT IS THIS?                  
 YES.                              

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 WOW.                              

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 >> CAT LIKES HIS FISH.            
 [ LAUGHTER ]                      

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 >> IF YOU LOOK AT THIS TABLE AND 
 THE FOOD ON IT --                 

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 >> YEAH.                          

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 >> -- WHAT IT CALLS TO MIND IS    
 THE LAST MEAL OF A PRISONER.      

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 >> OH.                            

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 >> NOW, NO ONE IS SUGGESTING      
 THAT DONALD TRUMP IS ABOUT TO GO 

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 TO JAIL.                          
 HOWEVER, HE'S IN TROUBLE.         

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 AT THIS MOMENT, HE HAS JUST AN    
 UNBELIEVABLE NUMBER OF LEGAL      

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 THREATS CIRCLING HIM.             
 BUT I THINK YOU CAN BOIL IT DOWN 

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 TO THERE'S REALLY THREE THREADS   
 THAT ARE WORTH PAYING ATTENTION   

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 TO.                               
 THE FORS ONE HAS A VERY CLEAR     

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 FACE.                             
 LETICIA JAMES, THE ATTORNEY       

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 GENERAL HERE IN NEW YORK STATE,   
 BROUGHT A MASSIVE CIVIL SUIT      

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 AGAINST DONALD TRUMP.             
 THIS IS A SUIT ABOUT TRUMP THE    

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 BUSINESSMAN.                      

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 >> BEFORE HE WAS PRESIDENT.       

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 >> RIGHT, INFLATED VALUES.        
 SHE CAME OUT AND SAID IN AKIGS    

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 TO THE CIVIL CASE, WE THINK YOU   
 HAVE VIOLATED CRIMINAL LAW AND    

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 SHOULD HAVE A FEDERAL INDICTMENT 
 BROUGHT AGAINST YOU.              

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 IS THERE SOME CHANCE TRUMP IS     
 CAPONE AND THE ONE THING WE       

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 DIDN'T THINK WOULD GET HIM IS     
 GOING TO GET HIM.                 

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 >> IT'S SAYING YOU ARE A FRAUD.   
 WE KNOW THAT HE HATES IT --       

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 >> NOT AS RICH AS YOU CLAIM TO    
 BE.                               

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 >> IT'S HIS REPUTATION.           

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 >> IT'S THE THING THAT MADE THE   
 WHOLE FABLE OF DONALD TRUMP.      

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 >> SO TRUMP IS A SCUMMY           
 BUSINESSMAN BEFORE HE WAS         

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 PRESIDENT.                        
 NOW IT SEEMS LIKE HE MIGHT HAVE   

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 VIOLATED THE ESPIONAGE ACT AFTER 
 BEING PRESIDENT.                  

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 ALL OF A SUDDEN, THE FBI SHOWS    
 UP AT MAR-A-LAGO AND STARTS       

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 TAKING BOXES OUT.                 

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 >> HE WALKED OUT WITH THOUSANDS   
 OF DOCUMENTS, THOUSANDS.          

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 I WORKED IN TWO WHITE HOUSES.     
 YOU DON'T GET TO LEAVE WITH       

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 DOCUMENTS.                        
 YOU WALK OUT WITH YOUR BACKPACK   

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 AND MAYBE A BOX OF M&Ms WITH THE 
 PRESIDENTIAL SIGNATURE AND THAT   

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 IS IT.                            
 EVERYTHING ELSE BELONGS TO THE    

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 ARCHIVES.                         
 THEN WE FIND OUT, ACCORDING TO    

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 "THE WASHINGTON POST," NUCLEAR    
 SECRETS, LIKE THE HIGHEST LEVEL   

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 OF CLASSIFICATION WITH SOME OF    
 THESE DOCUMENTS.                  

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 >> THE FACE OF THIS IS MERRICK    
 GARLAND.                          

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 THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE       
 UNITED STATES.                    

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 CALM, STOIC, CONSERVATIVE WITH A 
 SMALL C.                          

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 >> EVEN MERRICK GARLAND IS IN     
 THIS, SO YOU KNOW IT'S SERIOUS.   

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 >> YOU KNOW HE DOESN'T WANT TO    
 INDICT TRUMP.                     

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 HE DOESN'T WANT TO SEND FBI       
 AGENTS TO MAR-A-LAGO.             

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 TRUMP IS LIKE, I BROUGHT THEM     
 ALL, BECAUSE I CAN.               

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 >> ERIC WENT ON TV AND SAID MY    
 DAD IS A SCRAPBOOKER.             

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 >> HE HAD BOXES.                  

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 >> LAWYERS BASICALLY SAY LET'S    
 DRAG THIS OUT, GET A SPECIAL      

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 MASTER.                           

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 >> AND A MASTER IS SUPPOSED TO    
 BE A NEUTRAL PERSON TO LOOK AT    

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 THE DOCUMENTS.                    

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 >> THE SPECIAL MASTER IS JUDGE    
 RAYMOND DEERY.                    

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 TRUMP AND HIS ALLIES ARE SAYING   
 THE FBI PLANTED THE EVIDENCE.     

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 BUT THE JUDGE IS LIKE, REALLY?    
 PLANTED EVIDENCE, PROVE IT, IN    

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 WRITING, PLEASE.                  
 YEAH, THE LAW WORKS IN MY         

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 COURTROOM.                        
 AND NOW WE COME TO THE THIRD      

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 STRAND IN OUR TAPESTRY OF LEGAL   
 WOES.                             

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 >> IT'S ONE THING TO ALLEGEDLY    
 BREAK THE LAW BEFORE YOU'RE       

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 PRESIDENT, ANOTHER AFTER YOU'RE   
 PRESIDENT.                        

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 BUT TO BREAK THE LAW WHILE        
 YOU'RE PRESIDENT?                 

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 >> THE/                           

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 >> THE 1/6 COMMITTEE RECONVENES   
 WEDNESDAY.                        

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 >> THE HEARINGS WAY EXCEEDED      
 EXPECTATIONS.                     

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 THEY DIDN'T HAVE ALL THE MEMBERS 
 THAT GOT UP AND PONTIFICATED AND 

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 GAVE SPEECHES.                    
 IT WAS VERY COMPELLING DRAMA.     

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 >> IT WAS LIKE A REALLY GOOD      
 NETFLIX LIMITED SERIES.           

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 EVERY EPISODE ENDED WITH A        
 CLIFFHANGER WITH A PIECE OF       

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 BREAKING NEWS.                    

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 >> ABOUT WHAT ELSE, TRUMP.        

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 >> I'M THE "F"-ING PRESIDENT,     
 TAKE ME TO THE CAPITOL NOW.       

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 >> THE CLAIMS OF FRAUD WERE BULL 
 SHIT.                             

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 >> IF THE PRESIDENT WANTED TO     
 MAKE A STATEMENT, WE COULD        

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 HAVE BEEN ON CAMERA ALMOST        
 INSTANTLY.                        

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 >> THEY GOT TO THE END AND THE    
 QUESTION WAS, SOMEBODY IS GOING   

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 TO INDICT TRUMP.                  
 THE COMMITTEE DOESN'T HAVE THAT   

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 POWER.                            
 SO EYES TURNED BACK TO THE DOJ.   

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 >> IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL OF THIS, 
 WHAT MIGHT BE AN UNRELATED        

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 MATTER, THE FIRST-EVER BLACK      
 WOMAN TO SIT ON THE SUPREME       

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 COURT.                            
 KETANJI BROWN JACKSON.            

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 IS ACCOUNTABILITY GOING TO COME   
 FOR DONALD TRUMP?                 

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 >> THE LEFT THINKS THE SUPREME    
 COURT IS CORRUPT.                 

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 AND TRUMP IS WRAPPED UP IN THE    
 QUESTION, DO WE STILL BELIEVE IN 

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 THE RULE OF LAW?                  

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 >> WHEN THAT QUESTION GETS        
 ANSWERED, HALF OF THE COUNTRY IS 

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 GOING TO BE UPSET ABOUT IT.       

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 >>> HURRICANE IAN IS NOW A        
 CATEGORY 3 STORM.                 

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 >> SLAMMING CUBA WITH WINDS       
 APPROACHING 130 MILES PER HOUR.   

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 >> AS IT CONTINUES ON A PATH      
 TOWARD FLORIDA.                   

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 >> BREAKING NEWS OUT OF           
 WASHINGTON, WHERE THE HOUSE       

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 JANUARY 6th COMMITTEE HAS         
 POSTPONED TOMORROW'S HEARING.     

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 >> A NEW DATE FOR THE HEARINGS    
 SHOULD BE ANNOUNCED SOON.         

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 >> I MEAN, THE TRUTH IS, THIS IS 
 LIKE THE THIRD HEARING THAT'S     

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 BEEN ABRUPTLY CANCELED RIGHT      
 BEFORE IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.    

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 I GUESS I BETTER CALL DAVID TO    
 SWITCH GEARS ON MY COLUMN.        

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 >> OKAY, HERE WE GO.              

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 >> YOU GOT TO INTERVIEW           
 PRESIDENT TRUMP.                  

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 >> YEAH, I WAS A LITTLE           
 SURPRISED.                        

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 HE DECIDED TO GO THROUGH WITH     
 THE INTERVIEWS WITH US, BUT I     

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 GUESS I SHOULD LET YOU GUYS       
 KNOW THE SECRET THAT DONALD       

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 TRUMP IS PROBABLY NOT A BIG       
 READER OF "THE NEW YORKER."       

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 [ LAUGHTER ]                      
 I GUESS HE DIDN'T REALLY READ MY 

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 COLUMNS BEFORE HE AGREED TO THIS 
 INTERVIEW.                        

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 >> JUST SPEAK OFF THE TOP OF HIS 
 TONGUE AT THE MOMENT AND SAY      

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 CONSEQUENCES BE DAMNED?           

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 >> THIS IS WHAT THE WILL          

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 >> THIS IS WHAT THE WILETITIA     
 JAMES LAWSUIT IS ABOUT, THAT HE   

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 BASICALLY INVENTS FACTS TO SUIT   
 HIS OWN DESIRES, AND HE DID THAT 

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 THROUGHOUT HIS PRESIDENCY.        

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 >> I DO THINK THAT TRUMP THRIVES 
 ON FIGHTING AND COMBAT AND        

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 ENEMIES.                          
 HE SEEMS LIKE HE'S BACK IN THE    

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 FRAY.                             

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 >> THANK YOU, PETER.              
 [ APPLAUSE ]                      

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 >> YOU TWO HAVE WRITTEN THE MOST 
 COMPREHENSIVE BOOK ON TRUMP AND   

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 HIS TENURE AS PRESIDENT.          
 WHAT IS YOUR GENERAL TAKEAWAY?    

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 >> IT STARTED AS A WORK OF        
 HISTORY, BUT MAYBE PROLOGUES.     

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 >> THERE MAY HAVE TO BE A         
 SEQUEL.                           

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 >> WE'RE NOT PLANNING A SEQUEL,   
 JUST TO BE CLEAR.                 

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 >> JANUARY 6th WASN'T AN          
 ABERRATION, IT WAS AN             

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 ACCUMULATION OF FOUR YEARS OF     
 WAR ON AMERICAN INSTITUTIONS.     

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 WE THOUGHT THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO 
 GO BACK AND DOCUMENT.             

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 >> IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT DONALD 
 TRUMP HAS ALWAYS HAD A FLEXIBLE   

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 DEFINITION OF THE LAW AND         
 INSTITUTIONS OF THE LAW, AND WAS 

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 STARTING ALMOST FROM DAY ONE OF   
 HIS PRESIDENCY TO NOT JUST        

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 POLITICIZE THE INSTITUTIONS, BUT 
 TO TURN THEM TOWARDS HIS OWN      

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 PURPOSES.                         
 ANY RESULT OF THE ELECTION THAT   

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 DIDN'T HAVE HIM AS THE WINNER     
 ARGUABLY WAS A FOREGONE           

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 CONCLUSION THAT HE WAS GOING TO   
 DO SOMETHING EXPLOSIVE.           

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 >> WHEN SOMEBODY TELLS YOU WHO    
 THEY ARE, BELIEVE THEM.           

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 SO IT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN A       
 SURPRISE.                         

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 >> TRUMP IS SURROUNDED NOW AND    
 HAS BEEN FOR A LONG TIME WITH     

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 LEGAL PROBLEMS.                   
 NOW THERE'S A LOT OF THEM.        

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 >> YEAH.                          

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 >> HIS DEPOSITIONS, TRUMP TOOK    
 THE 5th OVER 440 TIMES.           

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 ANY INSIGHTS ON THAT?             

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 >> HE TOLD US, YOU TAKE THE       
 FIFTH, IT MEANS YOU MUST HAVE     

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 SOMETHING TO HIDE.                

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 >> THE MOB TAKES THE 5th.         
 IF YOU'RE INNOCENT, WHY ARE YOU   

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 TAKING THE 5th AMENDMENT?         

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 >> AND THEN SUDDENLY, TAKING THE 
 5th IS A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT,    

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 WHICH IS.                         
 BUT 400 TIMES TELLS YOU HOW MUCH 

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 HE'S TRIED TO IMPEDE THESE        
 INVESTIGATIONS.                   

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 >> BECAUSE HE'S AVOIDED SO MANY   
 BEFORE, PEOPLE JUST THINK HE'S    

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 NOW BECOME A LEGAL HOUDINI.       
 WHAT ARE TRUMP'S PEOPLE THINKING 

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 NOW ABOUT THEIR LEGAL LIABILITY? 

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 >> WELL, IT'S PART OF THE WAR.    
 IT'S PART OF THE WAR AGAINST THE 

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 DEEP STATE, THE MEDIA, AGAINST    
 THE PROSECUTORS, AGAINST THE      

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 DEMOCRATS.                        
 AND THAT'S THE WAY HE'S SELLING   

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 IT TO HIS PEOPLE.                 
 AND HE'S THE ONLY                 

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 AND HE'S THE OBUILDING POLITICA   
 POWER.                            

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 >> HE GAVE THIS TO A POLITICAL    
 RADIO HOST.                       

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 >> IF IT HAPPENS, YOU'LL HAVE     
 PROBLEMS IN THIS COUNTRY THE      

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 LIKES OF WHICH WE'VE NEVER SEEN   
 BEFORE.                           

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 >> WHAT KIND OF PROBLEMS?         

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 >> I THINK BIG PROBLEMS.          

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 >> NOBODY HAS FIGURED OUT HOW DO 
 YOU CONFRONT TRUMP ON HIS         

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 RECKLESS BEHAVIOR?                
 IS THERE EVER GOING TO BE THIS    

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 ACCOUNTABILITY MOMENT AND IN      
 FUNDAMENTAL WAYS HE'S TESTING     

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 OUR LIMITS OF THE AMERICAN        
 PRESIDENCY.                       

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 HE RECOGNIZES NO LIMITS.          
 HE HAS BLOWN UP SO MANY           

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 EXPECTATIONS, BECAUSE HE'S SHOWN 
 THEY WEREN'T WRITTEN IN STONE,    

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 THEY WERE ENCODED IN OUR NORMS    
 AND EXPECTATIONS FOR THE          

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 BEHAVIOR OF A PRESIDENT.          

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 >> THE JANUARY 6th COMMITTEE IS   
 BACK TO IN-PERSON MEETINGS        

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 TODAY.                            

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 >> GINNY THOMAS, WIFE OF          
 CLARENCE THOMAS, IS MEETING WITH 

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 THE COMMITTEE.                    

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 >> DID YOU SPEAK WITH YOUR        
 HUSBAND ABOUT THE ELECTION BEING 

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 STOLEN?                           

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 >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION.   
 I LOOK FORWARD TO ANSWERING TO    

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 THE MEMBERS.                      

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 >> HERE'S A FAMILIAR SPOT.        
 THIS IS THE SITE OF FAMOUS        

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 RALLY.                            

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 >> WE WILL NEVER GIVE UP.         
 WE WILL NEVER CONCEDE.            

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 >> I WAS STANDING TO THE SIDE OF 
 THE STAGE WITH COLLEAGUES         

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 WATCHING HIS SPEECH.              

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 >> I HONESTLY DIDN'T REALLY       
 THINK WHAT ENDED UP HAPPENING     

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 WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.              
 THEY WERE THERE BECAUSE THEY HAD 

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 BEEN FED A LIE THAT THE ELECTION 
 WAS STOLEN.                       

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 SO I THINK THESE PEOPLE TRULY     
 THOUGHT THEY WERE DOING THE       

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 RIGHT THING.                      
 ON JANUARY 6th, I PLEADED WITH    

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 OUR PRESS SECRETARY THAT THE      
 PRESIDENT, HE NEEDED TO CONDEMN   

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 THE VIOLENCE WE WERE SEEING.      
 WHEN HE SENT OUT THE VIDEO        

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 TWEET --                          

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 >> WE HAD AN ELECTION THAT WAS    
 STOLEN FROM US.                   

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 SO GO HOME, WE LOVE YOU.          
 YOU'RE VERY SPECIAL.              

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 >> THAT WAS THE MOMENT I DECIDED 
 TO RESIGN ACTUALLY.               

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 BECAUSE I KNEW AS A SPOKESPERSON 
 FOR HIM, THAT I WOULD BE TASKED   

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 WITH DEFENDING IT, AND I          
 COULDN'T DO THAT.                 

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 IT WAS INDEFENSIBLE.              

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00:14:23,429 --> 00:14:27,733
 >> HOW DID YOU HEAR FROM THE      
 COMMITTEE, DID THEY REACH OUT?    

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 >> THEY WENT THROUGH A MUTUAL     
 FRIEND OF MINE.                   

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 >> THAT'S SMART.                  

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 >> IT WAS JUST A ONE ON ONE       
 MEETING BETWEEN LIZ CHENEY AND    

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 I. I.                             

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 I APPRECIATED THE FACT THAT SHE   
 WAS WILLING TO MEET WITH NO       

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 STAFF, JUST HER AND I.            
 AND IT WAS HELPFUL JUST TO TALK   

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 WITH A FELLOW REPUBLICAN,         
 BECAUSE I FELT COMFORTABLE AND    

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 SAFE TALKING TO HER.              
 AND OPENING UP ABOUT WHAT I HAD   

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 WITNESSED.                        

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00:14:52,591 --> 00:14:55,728
 >> HAS ANYONE SAID TO YOU THAT    
 THEY HAVE CHANGED THEIR MIND      

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 BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY SAW IN THE   
 HEARING?                          

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00:14:58,264 --> 00:15:02,301
 >> I'VE HAD SOME PEOPLE, EVEN     
 REPUBLICANS PRIVATELY SAY TO ME   

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 THAT THEY ARE SUPPORTIVE, BUT     
 THEY CAN'T PUBLICLY REALLY BE     

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 OUT THERE, BECAUSE THEY WORK      
 FOR, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE, SOME      

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 MEMBER, TWHOEFR MEMBER,           
 TWHOWHOEVER.                      

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 IT'S BEEN TOUGH HAVING PEOPLE     
 WHO ATTACKED ME FOR IT, BECAUSE   

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 IT'S EASY FOR THEM TO HIDE        
 BEHIND THEIR PHONE AND TWEET      

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 SOMETHING AT ME.                  
 BUT UNTIL YOU'RE PUT IN A         

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 POSITION YOU WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND 
 WHAT IT'S LIKE.                   

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 >> ONE OF THE THINGS I LOVE       
 ABOUT THE HEARINGS IS LIZ         

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 CHENEY, SHE NEVER MISSES AN       
 OPPORTUNITY TO TROLL THE MEN NOT 

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 COOPERATING.                      

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 >> SHE KNEW ALL ALONG SHE WOULD   
 BE ATTACKED BY PRESIDENT TRUMP,   

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 AND BY THE 50, 60, AND            
 70-YEAR-OLD MEN WHO HIDE BEHIND   

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 EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE.              
 CASS                              

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 CASSITY, SARAH AND THE OTHER      
 WOMEN WITNESSES ARE AN            

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 INSPIRATION.                      

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 >> IT WAS LIKE TWO YOUNG WOMEN    
 IN THEIR MID 20s WHO HAD PEOPLE   

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 WHO ARE MUCH HIGHER RANKING THAN 
 THEM WHO WORKED AT THE WHITE      

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 HOUSE.                            
 BUT ARE HIDING BEHIND EXECUTIVE   

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 PRIVILEGE BECAUSE THEY'RE MORE    
 CONCERNED ABOUT STAYING IN THE    

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 GOOD GRACES OF TRUMP WORLD        
 RATHER THAN TELLING THE TRUTH.    

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 SO I THINK IT THEN FELL ON THE    
 SHOULDERS OF LOWER RANKING STAFF 

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 TO KIND OF COME FORWARD AND       
 SPEAK ABOUT WHAT THEY KNOW.       

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 >> LIKE, THIS ISN'T JUST A BRAVE 
 THING FOR YOU TO DO, THIS IS      

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 JEOPARDIZE JEOPARDIZING --        

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 >> YEAH.                          
 AND I THINK THAT WAS DEFINITELY   

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 A TOUGH SPILL TO SWALLOW.         
 I KNEW THAT I WOULD BE            

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 BLACKLISTED, BUT ULTIMATELY, I    
 PROBABLY WOULDN'T WANT TO WORK    

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 FOR THOSE PEOPLE ANY WAY.         
 SO IT DOES MORE ABOUT THEM THAN   

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 IT DOES ABOUT ME.                 
 I WAS SOMEONE WHO WAS A           

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 SPOKESPERSON FOR PRESIDENT        
 TRUMP.                            

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 I BELIEVED IN HIM, AND PUBLICLY   
 DEFENDED HIM.                     

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 SO I THINK TO HAVE SOMEONE LIKE   
 THAT TELL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE     

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 NO, HE WAS WRONG THAT DAY, HE     
 FAILED THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.       

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00:17:02,755 --> 00:17:06,225
 HE REFUSED TO ACT.                
 I THOUGHT THERE WAS VALUE IN      

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00:17:06,325 --> 00:17:07,226
 THAT.                             
 I DIDN'T EVER WANT TO BE PUT IN   

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00:17:07,326 --> 00:17:12,664
 THAT POSITION.                    
 BUT I THINK IT WAS JUST AN EASY   

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 DECISION TO, YOU KNOW, PUT MY     
 COUNTRY OVER MY PARTY.            

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00:17:20,739 --> 00:17:29,281
                                 

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00:17:29,381 --> 00:17:32,284
 >>> WHEN IT COMES TO THE          
 CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS CASE         

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 AGAINST DONALD TRUMP, THE EYES    
 ARE ON THE SPECIAL MASTER IN      

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00:17:36,188 --> 00:17:42,861
 THAT CASE, JUDGE RAYMOND DEERIE. 
 HE'S THE SENIOR JUDGE FOR THE     

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00:17:42,961 --> 00:17:46,065
 EASTERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK.     
 AND RECENTLY, PEOPLE ARE          

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00:17:46,165 --> 00:17:48,767
 LISTENING TO ONE PARTICULAR       
 LAWYER WHO ALSO HAS ROOTS IN      

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00:17:48,867 --> 00:17:55,207
 THIS SAME COURTHOUSE.             
 THAT IS ANDREW WEISSMANN.         

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00:17:55,307 --> 00:17:58,811
 WHO ROSE TO PROMINENCE AS THE     
 ASSISTANT U.S. ATTORNEY FOR THE   

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00:17:58,911 --> 00:18:01,947
 EASTERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK.     
 AFTER SPENDING THE '90s           

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00:18:02,047 --> 00:18:06,018
 PROSECUTING SOME OF THE MOST      
 NOTORIOUS MAFIA BOSSES IN NEW     

296
00:18:06,118 --> 00:18:11,323
 YORK, HE SAT OFF ON A TWO DECADE 
 LONG CAREER AT THE HIGHEST        

297
00:18:11,423 --> 00:18:13,659
 LEVELS OF THE FEDERAL             
 GOVERNMENT.                       

298
00:18:13,759 --> 00:18:15,928
 HE WAS THE LEAD LAWYER ON THE     
 ENRON TASK FORCE.                 

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00:18:16,028 --> 00:18:18,697
 HE WAS THE HEAD OF THE CRIMINAL   
 FRAUD DIVISION OF THE JUSTICE     

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00:18:18,797 --> 00:18:21,500
 DEPARTMENT.                       
 AND THEN WAS MAYBE THE MOST       

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00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,870
 PROMINENT PROSECUTOR ON BOB       
 MUELLER'S INVESTIGATIVE TEAM      

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00:18:24,970 --> 00:18:31,376
 LOOKING INTO THE TIES BETWEEN     
 DONALD TRUMP AND RUSSIA.          

303
00:18:31,477 --> 00:18:34,213
 >> JOHN, I HEARD YOU WANTED TO    
 DO THIS BECAUSE A DOG WOULD BE    

304
00:18:34,313 --> 00:18:39,151
 HERE.                             
 HELLO.                            

305
00:18:39,251 --> 00:18:45,224
 >> I'M GOING TO GET MY DONALD     
 TRUMP.                            

306
00:18:45,324 --> 00:18:50,295
 >> YOU KNOW, AS YOU WILL RECALL, 
 I BELIEVE WE WERE ON TV           

307
00:18:50,395 --> 00:18:53,332
 TOGETHER, MAYBE THE DAY THAT THE 
 FBI ARRIVED AT MAR-A-LAGO.        

308
00:18:53,432 --> 00:18:54,566
 WHEN YOU SAW THAT SPORY           
 WHEN YOU SAW THAT SPORE Y         

309
00:18:54,666 --> 00:18:59,538
 WHEN YOU SAW THAT SPORE STORY B   
 YOUR FIRST THOUGHT WAS WHAT?      

310
00:18:59,638 --> 00:19:02,374
 >> THIS IS A CASE ABOUT NATIONAL 
 SECURITY.                         

311
00:19:02,474 --> 00:19:08,580
 I WAS TRYING TO THINK WHAT WOULD 
 CAUSE MERRICK GARLAND AND LISA    

312
00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:13,952
 MONACO, TO DO SOMETHING AS BOLD   
 AND AS NECESSARY AS A SEARCH      

313
00:19:14,052 --> 00:19:17,256
 WARRANT?                          
 AND YOU THOUGHT IT HAD TO BE      

314
00:19:17,356 --> 00:19:20,559
 THAT THEY HAD TRIED EVERYTHING.   
 AND WHAT WAS AT STAKE WAS THE     

315
00:19:20,659 --> 00:19:22,694
 NATIONAL SECURITY OF THE UNITED   
 STATES.                           

316
00:19:22,794 --> 00:19:27,332
 >> YOU KNOW, ALL THE THEORYS OF   
 HOW THIS MIGHT NOT BE SO BAD FOR 

317
00:19:27,432 --> 00:19:30,802
 DONALD TRUMP, BASICALLY THE       
 SERIES OF DAYS AND WEEKS JUST     

318
00:19:30,903 --> 00:19:33,906
 LIKE FELL ONE BY ONE LIKE         
 DOMINOS.                          

319
00:19:34,006 --> 00:19:37,709
 EVERY CASE IT TURNED OUT TO BE A 
 WORSE PICTURE FOR TRUMP.          

320
00:19:37,809 --> 00:19:41,847
 >> EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS BEING A 
 MISTAKE OR MINOR, OR AN           

321
00:19:41,947 --> 00:19:45,684
 ACCIDENT, JUST FALLS BY THE       
 WAYSIDE.                          

322
00:19:45,784 --> 00:19:49,121
 BECAUSE THERE'S SUCH A LONG       
 PERIOD WHERE PEOPLE ARE ASKING,   

323
00:19:49,221 --> 00:19:53,458
 DEMANDING AND DO A SEARCH WHERE   
 THEY FIND STUFF HE HAD SWORN      

324
00:19:53,559 --> 00:19:54,693
 WASN'T GOING TO BE THERE.         

325
00:19:54,793 --> 00:19:56,995
 >> NOW WE GET TO THE CIVIL SUIT   
 THEY FILED.                       

326
00:19:57,095 --> 00:20:00,399
 >> TRUMP IS FILING THIS LAWSUIT   
 AGAINST THE UNITED STATES         

327
00:20:00,499 --> 00:20:02,167
 GOVERNMENT.                       
 HE'S ESSENTIALLY ASKING FOR A     

328
00:20:02,267 --> 00:20:05,037
 PAUSE ON THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT   
 INVESTIGATION AS THEY GO THROUGH 

329
00:20:05,137 --> 00:20:05,704
 EVIDENCE.                         

330
00:20:06,305 --> 00:20:11,376
 >> SO THE LOWER COURT, RUN BY     
 SHOULD BE NOTED A TRUMP           

331
00:20:11,476 --> 00:20:14,913
 APPOINTED JUDGE, SIDED WITH       
 TRUMP AND THEN IMMEDIATELY THE    

332
00:20:15,013 --> 00:20:16,048
 DOJ APPEALED.                     

333
00:20:16,315 --> 00:20:19,084
 >> THIS WEEK AN APPEALS COURT     
 HANDED THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE 

334
00:20:19,184 --> 00:20:23,889
 A VICTORY, ALLOWING THE DOJ TO    
 LOOK AT DOCUMENTS MARKED AS       

335
00:20:23,989 --> 00:20:25,824
 CLASSIFIED, SEIZED AT             
 MAR-A-LAGO.                       

336
00:20:25,924 --> 00:20:29,861
 >> THE APPEALS COURT DECISION IS 
 MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANYTHING      

337
00:20:29,962 --> 00:20:30,963
 GOING ON.                         

338
00:20:31,230 --> 00:20:33,932
 >> SO YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT     
 WHAT WAS THE DEPARTMENT TRYING    

339
00:20:34,032 --> 00:20:36,802
 TO DO BEFORE THE RULING?          
 THERE WAS A CRIMINAL CASE THAT    

340
00:20:36,902 --> 00:20:42,608
 THEY NEEDED TO PURSUE, AND THEY   
 HAD A NATIONAL SECURITY REVIEW.   

341
00:20:42,708 --> 00:20:48,580
 WHEN I HAVE SEEN TOP SECRET       
 COMPARTMENTED INFORMATION, IT'S   

342
00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:53,418
 THE STUFF WHERE YOUR JAW DROPS.   
 FOR PEOPLE IN THE INTELLIGENCE    

343
00:20:53,518 --> 00:20:55,988
 COMMUNITY, THE COMPLETE LACK OF   
 RESPONSIBILITY.                   

344
00:20:56,088 --> 00:20:59,524
 YOUR DEFENSE IS, I AM THE MOST    
 IRRESPONSIBLE PRESIDENT THERE     

345
00:20:59,625 --> 00:21:03,729
 EVER WAS, BECAUSE I'M GOING TO    
 DECLASSIFY THINGS THAT ARE VITAL 

346
00:21:03,829 --> 00:21:06,198
 TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY.         

347
00:21:06,298 --> 00:21:09,835
 >> THEY BOTH UNFROZE THE CASE TO 
 LET THE DOJ GET BACK TO ITS       

348
00:21:09,935 --> 00:21:12,170
 INVESTIGATION.                    
 BUT ALSO I THINK ESSENTIALLY THE 

349
00:21:12,271 --> 00:21:14,339
 APPELLATE COURT IS SAYING WE SEE 
 A CRIME HERE.                     

350
00:21:14,439 --> 00:21:19,911
 >> OH, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.          
 THEY'RE SAYING THESE ARE NOT      

351
00:21:20,012 --> 00:21:25,083
 PERSONAL DOCUMENTS.               
 ANYTHING MARKED CLASSIFIED, HE    

352
00:21:25,183 --> 00:21:28,287
 CANNOT HAVE POSSESSED.            
 THIS IS NOT A COMPLICATED CASE.   

353
00:21:28,387 --> 00:21:34,893
 THIS IS A VERY EASY THICK FOR     
 THIS IS A VERY EASY THICK NG FO   

354
00:21:34,993 --> 00:21:37,162
 PEOPLE TO DIGEST.                 
 HE IS THE PERSON MAKING THE       

355
00:21:37,262 --> 00:21:39,665
 DECISIONS.                        
 HE WAS CALLING THE SHOTS.         

356
00:21:39,765 --> 00:21:43,101
 >> SO YOU THINK GIVEN EVERYTHING 
 WE HAVE SEEN, THE LIKELIHOOD OF   

357
00:21:43,201 --> 00:21:43,568
 AN INDICTMENT IS HIGH.            

358
00:21:43,669 --> 00:21:46,204
 >> YES.                           

359
00:21:46,305 --> 00:21:50,142
 >> I REALLY THINK THAT MERRICK    
 GARLAND IS IN MANY WAYS BORN TO   

360
00:21:50,242 --> 00:21:53,578
 BE IN THE POSITION HE'S IN.       
 HE'S BEEN A FEDERAL JUDGE.        

361
00:21:53,679 --> 00:21:58,183
 HE'S EVEN KEELED.                 
 HE'S NOT LOOKING TO HAVE ANOTHER 

362
00:21:58,283 --> 00:22:00,819
 JOB.                              
 HE'S NOT GOT ONE EYE ON HOW WILL 

363
00:22:00,919 --> 00:22:04,656
 THIS AFFECT ME IN THE FUTURE.     
 I REALLY THINK HE IS GOING TO BE 

364
00:22:04,756 --> 00:22:07,826
 LOOKING TO DO THE RIGHT THING.    
 SO IT'S REALLY HARD TO SEE HOW    

365
00:22:07,926 --> 00:22:12,164
 HE SUSPECT GOING TO, AT THE EMTD 
 OF                                

366
00:22:12,264 --> 00:22:12,831
 HE SUSPECT GOING TO, AT THE EMTD 
   -- END OF THE DAY, PULL THE      

367
00:22:12,931 --> 00:22:19,838
 TRIGGER.                          
                                 

368
00:22:19,938 --> 00:22:23,542
 >> THE ABSOLUTE WORST THING YOU   
 COULD FEEL IF YOU'RE SOMEBODY IN 

369
00:22:23,642 --> 00:22:28,814
 MY FAMILY IS HUMILIATION.         
 YOU FEEL IT, BUT I THINK YOU      

370
00:22:28,914 --> 00:22:33,685
 VERY QUICKLY TURNS IT INTO        
 SOMETHING ELSE.                   

371
00:22:36,755 --> 00:22:37,956
                                 

372
00:22:38,056 --> 00:22:41,626
 >> DO YOU THINK HE MAY FEEL LIKE 
 THE WALLS ARE CLOSING IN ON HIM? 

373
00:22:41,727 --> 00:22:46,798
 >> HE RIGHTFULLY FEELS IMMUNE.    
 THERE HAVE BEEN NO CONSEQUENCES   

374
00:22:46,898 --> 00:22:48,400
 OF ANY OF HIS ACTIONS.            

375
00:22:48,500 --> 00:22:53,205
 >> WHEN HE STARTED HIS CAREER IN 
 1973, HE HAD A RACIAL HOUSING     

376
00:22:53,305 --> 00:22:57,409
 DISCRIMINATION LAWSUIT.           
 THAT WAS THE BEGINNING OF SOME    

377
00:22:57,509 --> 00:22:59,745
 OF THE TACTICS WE SEE HIM USING   
 NOW.                              

378
00:22:59,845 --> 00:23:03,382
 WE KNOW IT WAS A SERIOUS          
 LAWSUIT, BECAUSE IT WAS A RACIAL 

379
00:23:03,482 --> 00:23:06,651
 DISCRIMINATION LAWSUIT BROUGHT    
 BY THE NIXON DOJ.                 

380
00:23:06,752 --> 00:23:14,426
 SO HOW BAD MUST HAVE HAVE HIS     
 DISCRIMINATORY PRACTICES BEEN?    

381
00:23:14,526 --> 00:23:18,330
 AND MY GRAND FATHER.              
 THEY LOST BUT THEY DIDN'T SUFFER 

382
00:23:18,430 --> 00:23:22,167
 ANY CONSEQUENCES.                 
 IF THEY HAD, I'M NOT SURE WE      

383
00:23:22,267 --> 00:23:23,402
 WOULD BE HAVING THIS              
 CONVERSATION.                     

384
00:23:23,502 --> 00:23:28,640
 BUT NOW 50 YEARS LATER, HE'S      
 FACED WITH A MASSIVE LAWSUIT BY   

385
00:23:28,740 --> 00:23:31,943
 NEW YORK ATTORNEY GENERAL         
 LETITIA JAMES ABOUT HIS BUSINESS 

386
00:23:32,043 --> 00:23:34,446
 PRACTICES.                        
 SHE'S CROSSED THOSE Ts AND        

387
00:23:34,546 --> 00:23:38,517
 DOTTED THOSE Is, AND THAT'S WHAT 
 YOU HAVE TO DO.                   

388
00:23:38,617 --> 00:23:42,287
 JAMES' LAWSUIT IS ABOUT WHO HE    
 HAS PRETENDED BEEN AND BELIEVES   

389
00:23:42,387 --> 00:23:46,191
 HE IS AT THIS POINT.              
 AND WHO HE REALLY IS.             

390
00:23:46,291 --> 00:23:51,963
 AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE 
 TWO THINGS IS A HORRIFYING DARK   

391
00:23:52,063 --> 00:23:57,502
 CHASM FOR HIM, AND THE EXTENT TO 
 WHICH HE CAN'T PREVENT IT FROM    

392
00:23:57,602 --> 00:23:59,271
 BREAKING THROUGH, HE'S            
 TERRIFIED.                        

393
00:23:59,371 --> 00:24:02,140
 >> THERE WERE A LOT OF WOMEN      
 SITTING IN JUDGMENT OF DONALD     

394
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:02,541
 TRUMP THESE DAYS.                 

395
00:24:02,641 --> 00:24:08,647
 >> YEAH.                          

396
00:24:08,747 --> 00:24:10,982
 >> DO YOU THINK THAT HAS A        
 SPECIAL BEARING ON HIM?           

397
00:24:11,082 --> 00:24:15,020
 >> I COME FROM A FAMILY OF MY     
 SOME NISS.                        

398
00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:23,728
 THE WOMEN IN MY FAMILY WERE       
 MISOGYNIST                        

399
00:24:23,829 --> 00:24:24,629
 MISOGY                            
 MISOGYNISTS.                      

400
00:24:24,729 --> 00:24:28,667
 THE IDEA THAT WILL ARE WOMEN      
 DEFYING HIM.                      

401
00:24:28,767 --> 00:24:33,805
 HE COULD FACE INDICTMENT FROM     
 THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT.           

402
00:24:33,905 --> 00:24:34,639
 HOW WILL HE REACT?                

403
00:24:34,739 --> 00:24:36,708
 >> DOUBLE DOWN AND RUN FOR        
 PRESIDENT.                        

404
00:24:36,808 --> 00:24:38,977
 HE HAS NO CHOICE BUT TO DOUBLE    
 DOWN.                             

405
00:24:39,077 --> 00:24:43,548
 IF HE DID LOSE, HE'S A LOSER.     
 THAT'S NOT ALLOWED.               

406
00:24:43,648 --> 00:24:46,852
 THAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE.            
 FRED TRUMP WILL NOT ALLOW YOU TO 

407
00:24:46,952 --> 00:24:51,189
 BE A LOSER IN MY FAMILY.          
 IF YOU'RE A MAN WHO IS EXPECTED   

408
00:24:51,289 --> 00:24:55,560
 TO PERFORM A CERTAIN WAY.         
 BEING A LOSER, FAILING, IS AKIN   

409
00:24:55,660 --> 00:24:59,130
 TO A DEATH SENTENCE.              
 WHAT IS HE WILLING TO DO TO       

410
00:24:59,231 --> 00:24:59,698
 AVOID BEING HELD TO ACCOUNT?      

411
00:24:59,798 --> 00:25:02,567
 >> ANYTHING.                      

412
00:25:02,667 --> 00:25:04,202
 >> IS THERE A BOTTOM?             

413
00:25:04,302 --> 00:25:05,103
 >> NO.                            

414
00:25:05,203 --> 00:25:06,838
 >> WAS JANUARY 6th A BOTTOM?      

415
00:25:06,938 --> 00:25:12,611
 >> JANUARY 6th WAS A PRELUDE.     
 IF HE THINKS HE'S GOING DOWN,     

416
00:25:12,711 --> 00:25:17,582
 WE'RE ALL GOING WITH HIM AS FAR   
 AS HE'S CONCERNED.                

417
00:25:24,756 --> 00:25:26,258
 >> JUSTICE KETANJI BROWN          
 JACKSON.                          

418
00:25:26,358 --> 00:25:29,728
 >> THE FIRST TIME WE HAVE SEEN A 
 BLACK WOMAN TAKE HER SEAT AT THE 

419
00:25:29,828 --> 00:25:32,664
 HIGHEST COURT IN THE LAND.        

420
00:25:32,764 --> 00:25:35,767
 >> CHIEF JUSTICE JOHN ROBERTS     
 ADMINISTERED THE OATH.            

421
00:25:35,867 --> 00:25:38,537
 >> REMINDING US OF THE            
 IMPORTANCE OF REAL EQUAL          

422
00:25:38,637 --> 00:25:41,373
 REPRESENTATION FOR EVERYONE.      

423
00:25:41,473 --> 00:25:43,475
 >> WHAT JUST HAPPENED THIS        
 THERE?                            

424
00:25:43,575 --> 00:25:49,114
 >> IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE, ACTUALLY,   
 JOHN, NOT TO BE MOVED BY IT.      

425
00:25:49,214 --> 00:25:58,056
                                 

426
00:25:58,156 --> 00:26:03,962
 >> KETANJI BROWN JACKSON IS       
 TAKING THIS SEAT, THE FIRST       

427
00:26:04,062 --> 00:26:07,032
 AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMAN TO SERVE   
 ON THE SUPREME COURT.             

428
00:26:07,132 --> 00:26:10,635
 IT'S REALLY AWE INSPIRING.        
 I DON'T KNOW THAT I EVER TEARED   

429
00:26:10,735 --> 00:26:13,572
 UP IN THE COURTROOM BEFORE, BUT   
 I DID TEAR UP TODAY.              

430
00:26:13,672 --> 00:26:16,708
 >> THIS STUFF IS TAKING PLACE     
 AGAINST THIS OTHER BACKDROP,      

431
00:26:16,808 --> 00:26:20,779
 WHICH IS TRUMP.                   
 FACING BY ANY OBJECTIVE METRIC,   

432
00:26:20,879 --> 00:26:26,685
 AN OVERWHELMING MYRIAD OF LEGAL   
 CHALLENGES.                       

433
00:26:26,785 --> 00:26:29,187
 JUST KNOWING WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT 
 THE WAY THE JUSTICES THINK, WHAT 

434
00:26:29,287 --> 00:26:33,291
 IS THEIR ATTITUDE AND THE         
 POSSIBILITY THEY WILL HAVE TO BE 

435
00:26:33,391 --> 00:26:37,195
 DRAGGED INTO CASES OF THAT        
 UNPRECEDENTED AND ENORMOUS        

436
00:26:37,295 --> 00:26:37,929
 MAGNITUDE?                        

437
00:26:38,496 --> 00:26:41,232
 >> I'M QUITE SURE THAT THEY ARE   
 THINKING NOT ABOUT TRUMP          

438
00:26:41,333 --> 00:26:44,603
 HIMSELF, BUT THE THREATS TO THE   
 RULE OF LAW THAT WE HAVE SEEN.    

439
00:26:44,703 --> 00:26:48,640
 THE KIND OF DENIGRATION OF LAW,   
 THIS IDEA THAT IT'S ALL           

440
00:26:48,740 --> 00:26:50,542
 POLITICS.                         
 THE IDEA THAT IT'S ABOUT          

441
00:26:50,642 --> 00:26:54,613
 THROWING OUT THE RULE BOOK AND    
 RULING A BIT MORE BY FORCE.       

442
00:26:54,713 --> 00:26:58,216
 I THINK THAT THAT IS OF DEEP      
 CONCERN TO EVERY MEMBER OF THE    

443
00:26:58,316 --> 00:27:00,652
 JUDICIARY.                        

444
00:27:00,752 --> 00:27:10,061
 >> FOR MOST PEOPLE, THE IDEA OF   
 LIKE A SITTING PRESIDENT          

445
00:27:10,161 --> 00:27:13,264
 FOMENTING AN INSURRECTION IS      
 STILL THE BIGGER DEAL THAN THE    

446
00:27:13,365 --> 00:27:17,969
 CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS CASE.        
 IF I'M THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, I'M 

447
00:27:18,069 --> 00:27:23,241
 THINKING AM I REALLY GOING TO BE 
 THE ATTORNEY GENERAL THAT LOOKS   

448
00:27:23,341 --> 00:27:25,577
 AT EVIDENCE THAT DONALD TRUMP     
 COMMITTED SEDITION.               

449
00:27:25,677 --> 00:27:30,081
 I THINK ONE THING THAT GARLAND    
 WILL THINK ABOUT IS, IF I'VE      

450
00:27:30,181 --> 00:27:32,817
 ALREADY GOT A PROSECUTION GOING   
 ON ONE, DOES BRINGING A           

451
00:27:32,917 --> 00:27:37,122
 PROSECUTION ON THE OTHER START    
 TO UNDERMINE YOUR ALREADY GREAT   

452
00:27:37,222 --> 00:27:41,059
 CASE?                             
 DOES IT MAKE YOU -- GARLAND IS    

453
00:27:41,159 --> 00:27:45,196
 LIKE THE AT LEAST BLOOD THIRSTY   
 HEAD OF THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT    

454
00:27:45,296 --> 00:27:46,931
 IMAGINABLE.                       
 I DON'T THINK HE WANTS TO BRING   

455
00:27:47,032 --> 00:27:50,402
 A PROSECUTION AT ALL.             
 BUT I THINK HE'S GOING TO FEEL    

456
00:27:50,502 --> 00:27:51,936
 COMPELLED TO.                     

457
00:27:52,037 --> 00:27:57,375
 >> IF TRUMP SOMEHOW EMERGES       
 UNSCATHED FROM ALL OF THIS, IS    

458
00:27:57,475 --> 00:28:01,479
 THAT NOT A PRETTY COMPELLING      
 ARGUMENT THAT THE SYSTEM OF       

459
00:28:01,579 --> 00:28:05,383
 JUSTICE UNDER WAY WE OPERATE IS   
 TERMINALLY FUCKED?                

460
00:28:05,483 --> 00:28:08,553
 >> JOHN, I'M A HINDU.             
 I BELIEVE IN KARMA.               

461
00:28:08,653 --> 00:28:12,090
 I THINK IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR ALL   
 THE TRUMP LAW BREAKING NOT TO     

462
00:28:12,190 --> 00:28:14,859
 CATCH UP WITH HIM.                
 IT'S GOING TO.                    

463
00:28:14,959 --> 00:28:19,864
 >> WHAT'S ON THE LINE FEELS LIKE 
 THE RULE OF LAW ITSELF.           

464
00:28:19,964 --> 00:28:25,637
 >> WHAT'S AT STAKE IN THE TRUMP   
 PROSECUTIONS IS NOT CLASSIFIED    

465
00:28:25,737 --> 00:28:27,939
 DOCUMENTS OR WHAT HAPPENED ON     
 JANUARY 6th.                      

466
00:28:28,039 --> 00:28:33,645
 THE LARGER ISSUE IS, ARE WE       
 GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE A       

467
00:28:33,745 --> 00:28:36,581
 DEMOCRACY WHERE OUR NATION'S      
 MOST POWERFUL OFFICIALS ACT       

468
00:28:36,681 --> 00:28:40,385
 UNDER THE RULE OF LAW OR ARE      
 THEY GOINGIMPUNITY?               

469
00:28:40,485 --> 00:28:46,224
                                 
  I DON'T NEED TO PROVE MYSELF    

470
00:28:46,324 --> 00:28:56,167
 TO ANYONE                        
  GET OUT                         

471
00:28:56,267 --> 00:29:00,271
 WAY