>>> LEGAL TROUBLE IS GROWING FOR FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP.
>> IT'S COMING FROM ALL SIDES AT ONCE RIGHT NOW.
>> THE FBI EXECUTED A SEARCH WARRANT AT FORMER PRESIDENT
TRUMP'S MAR-A-LAGO ESTATE.
>> 11 SETS OF CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS.
>> "THE WASHINGTON POST" REPORTS THAT SOME OF THE MATERIALS
INCLUDED NUCLEAR INTELLIGENCE.
>> ATTORNEY GENERAL MERRICK GARLAND SAID THAT TRUMP WOULD
NOT BE IMMUNE FROM INVESTIGATION OR PROSECUTION.
>> I PERSONALLY APPROVED THE DECISION TO SEEK A SEARCH
WARRANT IN THIS MATTER.
>> THE COMMITTEE INVESTIGATING THE JANUARY 6th ATTACK ON THE
U.S. CAPITOL RETURNS THIS WEEK.
>> IN A SERIES OF INTERVIEWS, MEMBERS RECOMMEND THAT FORMER
PRESIDENT TRUMP COULD FACE CRIMINAL CHARGES FOR THE ATTACK.
>> THE DOORS HAVE OPENED, NEW SUBPOENAS HAVE BEEN ISSUED, AND
THE DAM HAS BEGUN TO BREAK.
>> ATTORNEY GENERAL LETICIA JAMES FILED A LAWSUIT ACCUSING
TRUMP AND HIS CHILDREN OF FRAUD.
>> DONALD TRUMP FALSELY INFLATED HIS NET WORTH BY BILLIONS OH OF
DOLLARS TO UNJUSTLY ENRICH HIMSELF AND TO CHEAT THE SYSTEM.
THEREBY CHEATING ALL OF US.
>> FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP IS FACING WHAT COULD BE HIS
GREATEST LEGAL PERIL EVER.
>> HOW DO YOU FEEL MR. TRUMP, HOW DO YOU FEEL?
>> USA! USA!
>> THE ONLY THING THESE DERANGED LEFTIST CARE ABOUT IS TRYING TO
DESTROY YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT, ME.
HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF ME? FOR SIX STRAIGHT YEARS, IT'S
BEEN ONE WITCH HUNT AFTER ANOTHER.
THE RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA SCAM, REMEMBER THAT?
IMPEACHMENT HOAX NUMBER ONE. LIZ CHENEY AND HER BAND.
THE UNSELECT COMMITTEE ON JANUARY 6.
THERE'S NEVER BEEN A PRESIDENT THAT'S GONE THROUGH THE CRAP
THAT I'M GOING THROUGH LEFT AND RIGHT.
YOU FEEL LIKE A FIGHTER, LEFT AND RIGHT.
AND THEN YOU GET UP AND KNOCK THE HELL OUT OF THEM.
>>> BEAUTIFUL.
>> I COULD EAT THIS FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
>> WHAT IS THIS? YES.
WOW.
>> CAT LIKES HIS FISH. [ LAUGHTER ]
>> IF YOU LOOK AT THIS TABLE AND THE FOOD ON IT --
>> YEAH.
>> -- WHAT IT CALLS TO MIND IS THE LAST MEAL OF A PRISONER.
>> OH.
>> NOW, NO ONE IS SUGGESTING THAT DONALD TRUMP IS ABOUT TO GO
TO JAIL. HOWEVER, HE'S IN TROUBLE.
AT THIS MOMENT, HE HAS JUST AN UNBELIEVABLE NUMBER OF LEGAL
THREATS CIRCLING HIM. BUT I THINK YOU CAN BOIL IT DOWN
TO THERE'S REALLY THREE THREADS THAT ARE WORTH PAYING ATTENTION
TO. THE FORS ONE HAS A VERY CLEAR
FACE. LETICIA JAMES, THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL HERE IN NEW YORK STATE, BROUGHT A MASSIVE CIVIL SUIT
AGAINST DONALD TRUMP. THIS IS A SUIT ABOUT TRUMP THE
BUSINESSMAN.
>> BEFORE HE WAS PRESIDENT.
>> RIGHT, INFLATED VALUES. SHE CAME OUT AND SAID IN AKIGS
TO THE CIVIL CASE, WE THINK YOU HAVE VIOLATED CRIMINAL LAW AND
SHOULD HAVE A FEDERAL INDICTMENT BROUGHT AGAINST YOU.
IS THERE SOME CHANCE TRUMP IS CAPONE AND THE ONE THING WE
DIDN'T THINK WOULD GET HIM IS GOING TO GET HIM.
>> IT'S SAYING YOU ARE A FRAUD. WE KNOW THAT HE HATES IT --
>> NOT AS RICH AS YOU CLAIM TO BE.
>> IT'S HIS REPUTATION.
>> IT'S THE THING THAT MADE THE WHOLE FABLE OF DONALD TRUMP.
>> SO TRUMP IS A SCUMMY BUSINESSMAN BEFORE HE WAS
PRESIDENT. NOW IT SEEMS LIKE HE MIGHT HAVE
VIOLATED THE ESPIONAGE ACT AFTER BEING PRESIDENT.
ALL OF A SUDDEN, THE FBI SHOWS UP AT MAR-A-LAGO AND STARTS
TAKING BOXES OUT.
>> HE WALKED OUT WITH THOUSANDS OF DOCUMENTS, THOUSANDS.
I WORKED IN TWO WHITE HOUSES. YOU DON'T GET TO LEAVE WITH
DOCUMENTS. YOU WALK OUT WITH YOUR BACKPACK
AND MAYBE A BOX OF M&Ms WITH THE PRESIDENTIAL SIGNATURE AND THAT
IS IT. EVERYTHING ELSE BELONGS TO THE
ARCHIVES. THEN WE FIND OUT, ACCORDING TO
"THE WASHINGTON POST," NUCLEAR SECRETS, LIKE THE HIGHEST LEVEL
OF CLASSIFICATION WITH SOME OF THESE DOCUMENTS.
>> THE FACE OF THIS IS MERRICK GARLAND.
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE UNITED STATES.
CALM, STOIC, CONSERVATIVE WITH A SMALL C.
>> EVEN MERRICK GARLAND IS IN THIS, SO YOU KNOW IT'S SERIOUS.
>> YOU KNOW HE DOESN'T WANT TO INDICT TRUMP.
HE DOESN'T WANT TO SEND FBI AGENTS TO MAR-A-LAGO.
TRUMP IS LIKE, I BROUGHT THEM ALL, BECAUSE I CAN.
>> ERIC WENT ON TV AND SAID MY DAD IS A SCRAPBOOKER.
>> HE HAD BOXES.
>> LAWYERS BASICALLY SAY LET'S DRAG THIS OUT, GET A SPECIAL
MASTER.
>> AND A MASTER IS SUPPOSED TO BE A NEUTRAL PERSON TO LOOK AT
THE DOCUMENTS.
>> THE SPECIAL MASTER IS JUDGE RAYMOND DEERY.
TRUMP AND HIS ALLIES ARE SAYING THE FBI PLANTED THE EVIDENCE.
BUT THE JUDGE IS LIKE, REALLY? PLANTED EVIDENCE, PROVE IT, IN
WRITING, PLEASE. YEAH, THE LAW WORKS IN MY
COURTROOM. AND NOW WE COME TO THE THIRD
STRAND IN OUR TAPESTRY OF LEGAL WOES.
>> IT'S ONE THING TO ALLEGEDLY BREAK THE LAW BEFORE YOU'RE
PRESIDENT, ANOTHER AFTER YOU'RE PRESIDENT.
BUT TO BREAK THE LAW WHILE YOU'RE PRESIDENT?
>> THE/
>> THE 1/6 COMMITTEE RECONVENES WEDNESDAY.
>> THE HEARINGS WAY EXCEEDED EXPECTATIONS.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE ALL THE MEMBERS THAT GOT UP AND PONTIFICATED AND
GAVE SPEECHES. IT WAS VERY COMPELLING DRAMA.
>> IT WAS LIKE A REALLY GOOD NETFLIX LIMITED SERIES.
EVERY EPISODE ENDED WITH A CLIFFHANGER WITH A PIECE OF
BREAKING NEWS.
>> ABOUT WHAT ELSE, TRUMP.
>> I'M THE "F"-ING PRESIDENT, TAKE ME TO THE CAPITOL NOW.
>> THE CLAIMS OF FRAUD WERE BULL SHIT.
>> IF THE PRESIDENT WANTED TO MAKE A STATEMENT, WE COULD
HAVE BEEN ON CAMERA ALMOST INSTANTLY.
>> THEY GOT TO THE END AND THE QUESTION WAS, SOMEBODY IS GOING
TO INDICT TRUMP. THE COMMITTEE DOESN'T HAVE THAT
POWER. SO EYES TURNED BACK TO THE DOJ.
>> IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL OF THIS, WHAT MIGHT BE AN UNRELATED
MATTER, THE FIRST-EVER BLACK WOMAN TO SIT ON THE SUPREME
COURT. KETANJI BROWN JACKSON.
IS ACCOUNTABILITY GOING TO COME FOR DONALD TRUMP?
>> THE LEFT THINKS THE SUPREME COURT IS CORRUPT.
AND TRUMP IS WRAPPED UP IN THE QUESTION, DO WE STILL BELIEVE IN
THE RULE OF LAW?
>> WHEN THAT QUESTION GETS ANSWERED, HALF OF THE COUNTRY IS
GOING TO BE UPSET ABOUT IT.
>>> HURRICANE IAN IS NOW A CATEGORY 3 STORM.
>> SLAMMING CUBA WITH WINDS APPROACHING 130 MILES PER HOUR.
>> AS IT CONTINUES ON A PATH TOWARD FLORIDA.
>> BREAKING NEWS OUT OF WASHINGTON, WHERE THE HOUSE
JANUARY 6th COMMITTEE HAS POSTPONED TOMORROW'S HEARING.
>> A NEW DATE FOR THE HEARINGS SHOULD BE ANNOUNCED SOON.
>> I MEAN, THE TRUTH IS, THIS IS LIKE THE THIRD HEARING THAT'S
BEEN ABRUPTLY CANCELED RIGHT BEFORE IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.
I GUESS I BETTER CALL DAVID TO SWITCH GEARS ON MY COLUMN.
>> OKAY, HERE WE GO.
>> YOU GOT TO INTERVIEW PRESIDENT TRUMP.
>> YEAH, I WAS A LITTLE SURPRISED.
HE DECIDED TO GO THROUGH WITH THE INTERVIEWS WITH US, BUT I
GUESS I SHOULD LET YOU GUYS KNOW THE SECRET THAT DONALD
TRUMP IS PROBABLY NOT A BIG READER OF "THE NEW YORKER."
[ LAUGHTER ] I GUESS HE DIDN'T REALLY READ MY
COLUMNS BEFORE HE AGREED TO THIS INTERVIEW.
>> JUST SPEAK OFF THE TOP OF HIS TONGUE AT THE MOMENT AND SAY
CONSEQUENCES BE DAMNED?
>> THIS IS WHAT THE WILL
>> THIS IS WHAT THE WILETITIA JAMES LAWSUIT IS ABOUT, THAT HE
BASICALLY INVENTS FACTS TO SUIT HIS OWN DESIRES, AND HE DID THAT
THROUGHOUT HIS PRESIDENCY.
>> I DO THINK THAT TRUMP THRIVES ON FIGHTING AND COMBAT AND
ENEMIES. HE SEEMS LIKE HE'S BACK IN THE
FRAY.
>> THANK YOU, PETER. [ APPLAUSE ]
>> YOU TWO HAVE WRITTEN THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE BOOK ON TRUMP AND
HIS TENURE AS PRESIDENT. WHAT IS YOUR GENERAL TAKEAWAY?
>> IT STARTED AS A WORK OF HISTORY, BUT MAYBE PROLOGUES.
>> THERE MAY HAVE TO BE A SEQUEL.
>> WE'RE NOT PLANNING A SEQUEL, JUST TO BE CLEAR.
>> JANUARY 6th WASN'T AN ABERRATION, IT WAS AN
ACCUMULATION OF FOUR YEARS OF WAR ON AMERICAN INSTITUTIONS.
WE THOUGHT THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO GO BACK AND DOCUMENT.
>> IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT DONALD TRUMP HAS ALWAYS HAD A FLEXIBLE
DEFINITION OF THE LAW AND INSTITUTIONS OF THE LAW, AND WAS
STARTING ALMOST FROM DAY ONE OF HIS PRESIDENCY TO NOT JUST
POLITICIZE THE INSTITUTIONS, BUT TO TURN THEM TOWARDS HIS OWN
PURPOSES. ANY RESULT OF THE ELECTION THAT
DIDN'T HAVE HIM AS THE WINNER ARGUABLY WAS A FOREGONE
CONCLUSION THAT HE WAS GOING TO DO SOMETHING EXPLOSIVE.
>> WHEN SOMEBODY TELLS YOU WHO THEY ARE, BELIEVE THEM.
SO IT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN A SURPRISE.
>> TRUMP IS SURROUNDED NOW AND HAS BEEN FOR A LONG TIME WITH
LEGAL PROBLEMS. NOW THERE'S A LOT OF THEM.
>> YEAH.
>> HIS DEPOSITIONS, TRUMP TOOK THE 5th OVER 440 TIMES.
ANY INSIGHTS ON THAT?
>> HE TOLD US, YOU TAKE THE FIFTH, IT MEANS YOU MUST HAVE
SOMETHING TO HIDE.
>> THE MOB TAKES THE 5th. IF YOU'RE INNOCENT, WHY ARE YOU
TAKING THE 5th AMENDMENT?
>> AND THEN SUDDENLY, TAKING THE 5th IS A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT,
WHICH IS. BUT 400 TIMES TELLS YOU HOW MUCH
HE'S TRIED TO IMPEDE THESE INVESTIGATIONS.
>> BECAUSE HE'S AVOIDED SO MANY BEFORE, PEOPLE JUST THINK HE'S
NOW BECOME A LEGAL HOUDINI. WHAT ARE TRUMP'S PEOPLE THINKING
NOW ABOUT THEIR LEGAL LIABILITY?
>> WELL, IT'S PART OF THE WAR. IT'S PART OF THE WAR AGAINST THE
DEEP STATE, THE MEDIA, AGAINST THE PROSECUTORS, AGAINST THE
DEMOCRATS. AND THAT'S THE WAY HE'S SELLING
IT TO HIS PEOPLE. AND HE'S THE ONLY
AND HE'S THE OBUILDING POLITICA POWER.
>> HE GAVE THIS TO A POLITICAL RADIO HOST.
>> IF IT HAPPENS, YOU'LL HAVE PROBLEMS IN THIS COUNTRY THE
LIKES OF WHICH WE'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE.
>> WHAT KIND OF PROBLEMS?
>> I THINK BIG PROBLEMS.
>> NOBODY HAS FIGURED OUT HOW DO YOU CONFRONT TRUMP ON HIS
RECKLESS BEHAVIOR? IS THERE EVER GOING TO BE THIS
ACCOUNTABILITY MOMENT AND IN FUNDAMENTAL WAYS HE'S TESTING
OUR LIMITS OF THE AMERICAN PRESIDENCY.
HE RECOGNIZES NO LIMITS. HE HAS BLOWN UP SO MANY
EXPECTATIONS, BECAUSE HE'S SHOWN THEY WEREN'T WRITTEN IN STONE,
THEY WERE ENCODED IN OUR NORMS AND EXPECTATIONS FOR THE
BEHAVIOR OF A PRESIDENT.
>> THE JANUARY 6th COMMITTEE IS BACK TO IN-PERSON MEETINGS
TODAY.
>> GINNY THOMAS, WIFE OF CLARENCE THOMAS, IS MEETING WITH
THE COMMITTEE.
>> DID YOU SPEAK WITH YOUR HUSBAND ABOUT THE ELECTION BEING
STOLEN?
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION. I LOOK FORWARD TO ANSWERING TO
THE MEMBERS.
>> HERE'S A FAMILIAR SPOT. THIS IS THE SITE OF FAMOUS
RALLY.
>> WE WILL NEVER GIVE UP. WE WILL NEVER CONCEDE.
>> I WAS STANDING TO THE SIDE OF THE STAGE WITH COLLEAGUES
WATCHING HIS SPEECH.
>> I HONESTLY DIDN'T REALLY THINK WHAT ENDED UP HAPPENING
WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. THEY WERE THERE BECAUSE THEY HAD
BEEN FED A LIE THAT THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN.
SO I THINK THESE PEOPLE TRULY THOUGHT THEY WERE DOING THE
RIGHT THING. ON JANUARY 6th, I PLEADED WITH
OUR PRESS SECRETARY THAT THE PRESIDENT, HE NEEDED TO CONDEMN
THE VIOLENCE WE WERE SEEING. WHEN HE SENT OUT THE VIDEO
TWEET --
>> WE HAD AN ELECTION THAT WAS STOLEN FROM US.
SO GO HOME, WE LOVE YOU. YOU'RE VERY SPECIAL.
>> THAT WAS THE MOMENT I DECIDED TO RESIGN ACTUALLY.
BECAUSE I KNEW AS A SPOKESPERSON FOR HIM, THAT I WOULD BE TASKED
WITH DEFENDING IT, AND I COULDN'T DO THAT.
IT WAS INDEFENSIBLE.
>> HOW DID YOU HEAR FROM THE COMMITTEE, DID THEY REACH OUT?
>> THEY WENT THROUGH A MUTUAL FRIEND OF MINE.
>> THAT'S SMART.
>> IT WAS JUST A ONE ON ONE MEETING BETWEEN LIZ CHENEY AND
I. I.
I APPRECIATED THE FACT THAT SHE WAS WILLING TO MEET WITH NO
STAFF, JUST HER AND I. AND IT WAS HELPFUL JUST TO TALK
WITH A FELLOW REPUBLICAN, BECAUSE I FELT COMFORTABLE AND
SAFE TALKING TO HER. AND OPENING UP ABOUT WHAT I HAD
WITNESSED.
>> HAS ANYONE SAID TO YOU THAT THEY HAVE CHANGED THEIR MIND
BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY SAW IN THE HEARING?
>> I'VE HAD SOME PEOPLE, EVEN REPUBLICANS PRIVATELY SAY TO ME
THAT THEY ARE SUPPORTIVE, BUT THEY CAN'T PUBLICLY REALLY BE
OUT THERE, BECAUSE THEY WORK FOR, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE, SOME
MEMBER, TWHOEFR MEMBER, TWHOWHOEVER.
IT'S BEEN TOUGH HAVING PEOPLE WHO ATTACKED ME FOR IT, BECAUSE
IT'S EASY FOR THEM TO HIDE BEHIND THEIR PHONE AND TWEET
SOMETHING AT ME. BUT UNTIL YOU'RE PUT IN A
POSITION YOU WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S LIKE.
>> ONE OF THE THINGS I LOVE ABOUT THE HEARINGS IS LIZ
CHENEY, SHE NEVER MISSES AN OPPORTUNITY TO TROLL THE MEN NOT
COOPERATING.
>> SHE KNEW ALL ALONG SHE WOULD BE ATTACKED BY PRESIDENT TRUMP,
AND BY THE 50, 60, AND 70-YEAR-OLD MEN WHO HIDE BEHIND
EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE. CASS
CASSITY, SARAH AND THE OTHER WOMEN WITNESSES ARE AN
INSPIRATION.
>> IT WAS LIKE TWO YOUNG WOMEN IN THEIR MID 20s WHO HAD PEOPLE
WHO ARE MUCH HIGHER RANKING THAN THEM WHO WORKED AT THE WHITE
HOUSE. BUT ARE HIDING BEHIND EXECUTIVE
PRIVILEGE BECAUSE THEY'RE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT STAYING IN THE
GOOD GRACES OF TRUMP WORLD RATHER THAN TELLING THE TRUTH.
SO I THINK IT THEN FELL ON THE SHOULDERS OF LOWER RANKING STAFF
TO KIND OF COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ABOUT WHAT THEY KNOW.
>> LIKE, THIS ISN'T JUST A BRAVE THING FOR YOU TO DO, THIS IS
JEOPARDIZE JEOPARDIZING --
>> YEAH. AND I THINK THAT WAS DEFINITELY
A TOUGH SPILL TO SWALLOW. I KNEW THAT I WOULD BE
BLACKLISTED, BUT ULTIMATELY, I PROBABLY WOULDN'T WANT TO WORK
FOR THOSE PEOPLE ANY WAY. SO IT DOES MORE ABOUT THEM THAN
IT DOES ABOUT ME. I WAS SOMEONE WHO WAS A
SPOKESPERSON FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP.
I BELIEVED IN HIM, AND PUBLICLY DEFENDED HIM.
SO I THINK TO HAVE SOMEONE LIKE THAT TELL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
NO, HE WAS WRONG THAT DAY, HE FAILED THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
HE REFUSED TO ACT. I THOUGHT THERE WAS VALUE IN
THAT. I DIDN'T EVER WANT TO BE PUT IN
THAT POSITION. BUT I THINK IT WAS JUST AN EASY
DECISION TO, YOU KNOW, PUT MY COUNTRY OVER MY PARTY.
>>> WHEN IT COMES TO THE CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS CASE
AGAINST DONALD TRUMP, THE EYES ARE ON THE SPECIAL MASTER IN
THAT CASE, JUDGE RAYMOND DEERIE. HE'S THE SENIOR JUDGE FOR THE
EASTERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK. AND RECENTLY, PEOPLE ARE
LISTENING TO ONE PARTICULAR LAWYER WHO ALSO HAS ROOTS IN
THIS SAME COURTHOUSE. THAT IS ANDREW WEISSMANN.
WHO ROSE TO PROMINENCE AS THE ASSISTANT U.S. ATTORNEY FOR THE
EASTERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK. AFTER SPENDING THE '90s
PROSECUTING SOME OF THE MOST NOTORIOUS MAFIA BOSSES IN NEW
YORK, HE SAT OFF ON A TWO DECADE LONG CAREER AT THE HIGHEST
LEVELS OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
HE WAS THE LEAD LAWYER ON THE ENRON TASK FORCE.
HE WAS THE HEAD OF THE CRIMINAL FRAUD DIVISION OF THE JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT. AND THEN WAS MAYBE THE MOST
PROMINENT PROSECUTOR ON BOB MUELLER'S INVESTIGATIVE TEAM
LOOKING INTO THE TIES BETWEEN DONALD TRUMP AND RUSSIA.
>> JOHN, I HEARD YOU WANTED TO DO THIS BECAUSE A DOG WOULD BE
HERE. HELLO.
>> I'M GOING TO GET MY DONALD TRUMP.
>> YOU KNOW, AS YOU WILL RECALL, I BELIEVE WE WERE ON TV
TOGETHER, MAYBE THE DAY THAT THE FBI ARRIVED AT MAR-A-LAGO.
WHEN YOU SAW THAT SPORY WHEN YOU SAW THAT SPORE Y
WHEN YOU SAW THAT SPORE STORY B YOUR FIRST THOUGHT WAS WHAT?
>> THIS IS A CASE ABOUT NATIONAL SECURITY.
I WAS TRYING TO THINK WHAT WOULD CAUSE MERRICK GARLAND AND LISA
MONACO, TO DO SOMETHING AS BOLD AND AS NECESSARY AS A SEARCH
WARRANT? AND YOU THOUGHT IT HAD TO BE
THAT THEY HAD TRIED EVERYTHING. AND WHAT WAS AT STAKE WAS THE
NATIONAL SECURITY OF THE UNITED STATES.
>> YOU KNOW, ALL THE THEORYS OF HOW THIS MIGHT NOT BE SO BAD FOR
DONALD TRUMP, BASICALLY THE SERIES OF DAYS AND WEEKS JUST
LIKE FELL ONE BY ONE LIKE DOMINOS.
EVERY CASE IT TURNED OUT TO BE A WORSE PICTURE FOR TRUMP.
>> EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS BEING A MISTAKE OR MINOR, OR AN
ACCIDENT, JUST FALLS BY THE WAYSIDE.
BECAUSE THERE'S SUCH A LONG PERIOD WHERE PEOPLE ARE ASKING,
DEMANDING AND DO A SEARCH WHERE THEY FIND STUFF HE HAD SWORN
WASN'T GOING TO BE THERE.
>> NOW WE GET TO THE CIVIL SUIT THEY FILED.
>> TRUMP IS FILING THIS LAWSUIT AGAINST THE UNITED STATES
GOVERNMENT. HE'S ESSENTIALLY ASKING FOR A
PAUSE ON THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT INVESTIGATION AS THEY GO THROUGH
EVIDENCE.
>> SO THE LOWER COURT, RUN BY SHOULD BE NOTED A TRUMP
APPOINTED JUDGE, SIDED WITH TRUMP AND THEN IMMEDIATELY THE
DOJ APPEALED.
>> THIS WEEK AN APPEALS COURT HANDED THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
A VICTORY, ALLOWING THE DOJ TO LOOK AT DOCUMENTS MARKED AS
CLASSIFIED, SEIZED AT MAR-A-LAGO.
>> THE APPEALS COURT DECISION IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANYTHING
GOING ON.
>> SO YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT WAS THE DEPARTMENT TRYING
TO DO BEFORE THE RULING? THERE WAS A CRIMINAL CASE THAT
THEY NEEDED TO PURSUE, AND THEY HAD A NATIONAL SECURITY REVIEW.
WHEN I HAVE SEEN TOP SECRET COMPARTMENTED INFORMATION, IT'S
THE STUFF WHERE YOUR JAW DROPS. FOR PEOPLE IN THE INTELLIGENCE
COMMUNITY, THE COMPLETE LACK OF RESPONSIBILITY.
YOUR DEFENSE IS, I AM THE MOST IRRESPONSIBLE PRESIDENT THERE
EVER WAS, BECAUSE I'M GOING TO DECLASSIFY THINGS THAT ARE VITAL
TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY.
>> THEY BOTH UNFROZE THE CASE TO LET THE DOJ GET BACK TO ITS
INVESTIGATION. BUT ALSO I THINK ESSENTIALLY THE
APPELLATE COURT IS SAYING WE SEE A CRIME HERE.
>> OH, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. THEY'RE SAYING THESE ARE NOT
PERSONAL DOCUMENTS. ANYTHING MARKED CLASSIFIED, HE
CANNOT HAVE POSSESSED. THIS IS NOT A COMPLICATED CASE.
THIS IS A VERY EASY THICK FOR THIS IS A VERY EASY THICK NG FO
PEOPLE TO DIGEST. HE IS THE PERSON MAKING THE
DECISIONS. HE WAS CALLING THE SHOTS.
>> SO YOU THINK GIVEN EVERYTHING WE HAVE SEEN, THE LIKELIHOOD OF
AN INDICTMENT IS HIGH.
>> YES.
>> I REALLY THINK THAT MERRICK GARLAND IS IN MANY WAYS BORN TO
BE IN THE POSITION HE'S IN. HE'S BEEN A FEDERAL JUDGE.
HE'S EVEN KEELED. HE'S NOT LOOKING TO HAVE ANOTHER
JOB. HE'S NOT GOT ONE EYE ON HOW WILL
THIS AFFECT ME IN THE FUTURE. I REALLY THINK HE IS GOING TO BE
LOOKING TO DO THE RIGHT THING. SO IT'S REALLY HARD TO SEE HOW
HE SUSPECT GOING TO, AT THE EMTD OF
HE SUSPECT GOING TO, AT THE EMTD -- END OF THE DAY, PULL THE
TRIGGER.
>> THE ABSOLUTE WORST THING YOU COULD FEEL IF YOU'RE SOMEBODY IN
MY FAMILY IS HUMILIATION. YOU FEEL IT, BUT I THINK YOU
VERY QUICKLY TURNS IT INTO SOMETHING ELSE.
>> DO YOU THINK HE MAY FEEL LIKE THE WALLS ARE CLOSING IN ON HIM?
>> HE RIGHTFULLY FEELS IMMUNE. THERE HAVE BEEN NO CONSEQUENCES
OF ANY OF HIS ACTIONS.
>> WHEN HE STARTED HIS CAREER IN 1973, HE HAD A RACIAL HOUSING
DISCRIMINATION LAWSUIT. THAT WAS THE BEGINNING OF SOME
OF THE TACTICS WE SEE HIM USING NOW.
WE KNOW IT WAS A SERIOUS LAWSUIT, BECAUSE IT WAS A RACIAL
DISCRIMINATION LAWSUIT BROUGHT BY THE NIXON DOJ.
SO HOW BAD MUST HAVE HAVE HIS DISCRIMINATORY PRACTICES BEEN?
AND MY GRAND FATHER. THEY LOST BUT THEY DIDN'T SUFFER
ANY CONSEQUENCES. IF THEY HAD, I'M NOT SURE WE
WOULD BE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION.
BUT NOW 50 YEARS LATER, HE'S FACED WITH A MASSIVE LAWSUIT BY
NEW YORK ATTORNEY GENERAL LETITIA JAMES ABOUT HIS BUSINESS
PRACTICES. SHE'S CROSSED THOSE Ts AND
DOTTED THOSE Is, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO.
JAMES' LAWSUIT IS ABOUT WHO HE HAS PRETENDED BEEN AND BELIEVES
HE IS AT THIS POINT. AND WHO HE REALLY IS.
AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO THINGS IS A HORRIFYING DARK
CHASM FOR HIM, AND THE EXTENT TO WHICH HE CAN'T PREVENT IT FROM
BREAKING THROUGH, HE'S TERRIFIED.
>> THERE WERE A LOT OF WOMEN SITTING IN JUDGMENT OF DONALD
TRUMP THESE DAYS.
>> YEAH.
>> DO YOU THINK THAT HAS A SPECIAL BEARING ON HIM?
>> I COME FROM A FAMILY OF MY SOME NISS.
THE WOMEN IN MY FAMILY WERE MISOGYNIST
MISOGY MISOGYNISTS.
THE IDEA THAT WILL ARE WOMEN DEFYING HIM.
HE COULD FACE INDICTMENT FROM THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT.
HOW WILL HE REACT?
>> DOUBLE DOWN AND RUN FOR PRESIDENT.
HE HAS NO CHOICE BUT TO DOUBLE DOWN.
IF HE DID LOSE, HE'S A LOSER. THAT'S NOT ALLOWED.
THAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE. FRED TRUMP WILL NOT ALLOW YOU TO
BE A LOSER IN MY FAMILY. IF YOU'RE A MAN WHO IS EXPECTED
TO PERFORM A CERTAIN WAY. BEING A LOSER, FAILING, IS AKIN
TO A DEATH SENTENCE. WHAT IS HE WILLING TO DO TO
AVOID BEING HELD TO ACCOUNT?
>> ANYTHING.
>> IS THERE A BOTTOM?
>> NO.
>> WAS JANUARY 6th A BOTTOM?
>> JANUARY 6th WAS A PRELUDE. IF HE THINKS HE'S GOING DOWN,
WE'RE ALL GOING WITH HIM AS FAR AS HE'S CONCERNED.
>> JUSTICE KETANJI BROWN JACKSON.
>> THE FIRST TIME WE HAVE SEEN A BLACK WOMAN TAKE HER SEAT AT THE
HIGHEST COURT IN THE LAND.
>> CHIEF JUSTICE JOHN ROBERTS ADMINISTERED THE OATH.
>> REMINDING US OF THE IMPORTANCE OF REAL EQUAL
REPRESENTATION FOR EVERYONE.
>> WHAT JUST HAPPENED THIS THERE?
>> IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE, ACTUALLY, JOHN, NOT TO BE MOVED BY IT.
>> KETANJI BROWN JACKSON IS TAKING THIS SEAT, THE FIRST
AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMAN TO SERVE ON THE SUPREME COURT.
IT'S REALLY AWE INSPIRING. I DON'T KNOW THAT I EVER TEARED
UP IN THE COURTROOM BEFORE, BUT I DID TEAR UP TODAY.
>> THIS STUFF IS TAKING PLACE AGAINST THIS OTHER BACKDROP,
WHICH IS TRUMP. FACING BY ANY OBJECTIVE METRIC,
AN OVERWHELMING MYRIAD OF LEGAL CHALLENGES.
JUST KNOWING WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT THE WAY THE JUSTICES THINK, WHAT
IS THEIR ATTITUDE AND THE POSSIBILITY THEY WILL HAVE TO BE
DRAGGED INTO CASES OF THAT UNPRECEDENTED AND ENORMOUS
MAGNITUDE?
>> I'M QUITE SURE THAT THEY ARE THINKING NOT ABOUT TRUMP
HIMSELF, BUT THE THREATS TO THE RULE OF LAW THAT WE HAVE SEEN.
THE KIND OF DENIGRATION OF LAW, THIS IDEA THAT IT'S ALL
POLITICS. THE IDEA THAT IT'S ABOUT
THROWING OUT THE RULE BOOK AND RULING A BIT MORE BY FORCE.
I THINK THAT THAT IS OF DEEP CONCERN TO EVERY MEMBER OF THE
JUDICIARY.
>> FOR MOST PEOPLE, THE IDEA OF LIKE A SITTING PRESIDENT
FOMENTING AN INSURRECTION IS STILL THE BIGGER DEAL THAN THE
CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS CASE. IF I'M THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, I'M
THINKING AM I REALLY GOING TO BE THE ATTORNEY GENERAL THAT LOOKS
AT EVIDENCE THAT DONALD TRUMP COMMITTED SEDITION.
I THINK ONE THING THAT GARLAND WILL THINK ABOUT IS, IF I'VE
ALREADY GOT A PROSECUTION GOING ON ONE, DOES BRINGING A
PROSECUTION ON THE OTHER START TO UNDERMINE YOUR ALREADY GREAT
CASE? DOES IT MAKE YOU -- GARLAND IS
LIKE THE AT LEAST BLOOD THIRSTY HEAD OF THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT
IMAGINABLE. I DON'T THINK HE WANTS TO BRING
A PROSECUTION AT ALL. BUT I THINK HE'S GOING TO FEEL
COMPELLED TO.
>> IF TRUMP SOMEHOW EMERGES UNSCATHED FROM ALL OF THIS, IS
THAT NOT A PRETTY COMPELLING ARGUMENT THAT THE SYSTEM OF
JUSTICE UNDER WAY WE OPERATE IS TERMINALLY FUCKED?
>> JOHN, I'M A HINDU. I BELIEVE IN KARMA.
I THINK IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR ALL THE TRUMP LAW BREAKING NOT TO
CATCH UP WITH HIM. IT'S GOING TO.
>> WHAT'S ON THE LINE FEELS LIKE THE RULE OF LAW ITSELF.
>> WHAT'S AT STAKE IN THE TRUMP PROSECUTIONS IS NOT CLASSIFIED
DOCUMENTS OR WHAT HAPPENED ON JANUARY 6th.
THE LARGER ISSUE IS, ARE WE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE A
DEMOCRACY WHERE OUR NATION'S MOST POWERFUL OFFICIALS ACT
UNDER THE RULE OF LAW OR ARE THEY GOINGIMPUNITY?
I DON'T NEED TO PROVE MYSELF
TO ANYONE GET OUT
WAY