1 00:00:05,467 --> 00:00:07,800 CHRISTINE: This is a picture of my mom. 2 00:00:09,367 --> 00:00:12,734 Brings up a lot of bad memories. 3 00:00:17,967 --> 00:00:18,967 [sniffles] 4 00:00:18,967 --> 00:00:22,467 I just feel like, I don't know, I just... 5 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,700 just a very scary person, and just 6 00:00:28,700 --> 00:00:30,000 reminded of all that when I see this. 7 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:31,333 reminded of all that when I see this. 8 00:00:33,734 --> 00:00:37,467 Just makes me think about just, like, how 9 00:00:37,533 --> 00:00:40,533 horrible she was and everything she's done. 10 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,734 But yeah, it's hard to look at, 11 00:00:45,867 --> 00:00:47,166 um, her. 12 00:00:54,367 --> 00:00:56,734 This is where I was shot 13 00:00:56,734 --> 00:00:58,700 when I was 14 00:00:58,700 --> 00:01:00,000 going back from calling 911. 15 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,533 going back from calling 911. 16 00:01:02,634 --> 00:01:04,867 She had completely shot through my elbow, 17 00:01:04,867 --> 00:01:09,266 and my arm was fractured and flopping around. 18 00:01:09,266 --> 00:01:11,800 I have a big scar down my stomach here, 19 00:01:11,900 --> 00:01:14,467 from here to probably here. 20 00:01:14,467 --> 00:01:17,634 I have another, like a bullet entry, 21 00:01:17,634 --> 00:01:21,066 exit wound here and out through my chest. 22 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:27,266 Sungnam Kwon is the woman who gave birth to me. 23 00:01:27,266 --> 00:01:30,000 It feels weird to say her name. 24 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:30,266 It feels weird to say her name. 25 00:01:30,333 --> 00:01:32,166 I hated my mom. 26 00:01:39,500 --> 00:01:41,233 I think my mom is evil. 27 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:44,634 She tortured us. 28 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,166 You hear the noise first, 29 00:01:48,166 --> 00:01:50,266 loud bang, 30 00:01:50,266 --> 00:01:55,367 and then just the sensation of, like, water being poured on 31 00:01:55,367 --> 00:02:00,000 you, but it's warm, and it's my blood, and it's everywhere. 32 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:00,333 you, but it's warm, and it's my blood, and it's everywhere. 33 00:02:02,166 --> 00:02:05,266 She chose to do what she did, 34 00:02:06,266 --> 00:02:08,467 and it was evil. 35 00:02:13,166 --> 00:02:16,266 [The Paper Chase's "What's So Amazing About Grace?" plays] 36 00:02:16,266 --> 00:02:18,634 [strings continue playing sinister tune] 37 00:02:18,634 --> 00:02:20,634 [static crackling] 38 00:02:22,867 --> 00:02:25,467 [knock at door] [creaking] 39 00:02:25,467 --> 00:02:30,000 -[banging on door] -[creaking] 40 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:30,867 -[banging on door] -[creaking] 41 00:02:30,867 --> 00:02:35,066 -[banging on door] -[creaking] 42 00:02:35,066 --> 00:02:38,166 [water dripping] 43 00:02:38,166 --> 00:02:41,066 [banging on door] [creaking] 44 00:02:41,066 --> 00:02:43,166 [sinister chord strikes] 45 00:02:55,867 --> 00:02:59,467 This is a picture of my parents together 46 00:02:59,467 --> 00:03:00,000 on a boat in Korea. 47 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,467 on a boat in Korea. 48 00:03:03,467 --> 00:03:05,467 Looks like a work event. 49 00:03:05,533 --> 00:03:08,367 My dad was an American working in Korea 50 00:03:08,367 --> 00:03:09,634 when he met my mom, Sungnam. 51 00:03:11,266 --> 00:03:14,166 They both loved each other a lot in the beginning. 52 00:03:14,233 --> 00:03:18,900 But then certainly, you don't treat someone 53 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,433 you love the way she treated my dad. 54 00:03:23,166 --> 00:03:25,367 She got a full scholarship to, like, 55 00:03:25,367 --> 00:03:27,533 one of the best colleges in Korea. 56 00:03:28,533 --> 00:03:30,000 So I think, at one time, she was a smart, 57 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,266 So I think, at one time, she was a smart, 58 00:03:31,266 --> 00:03:34,066 brave, and confident lady. 59 00:03:34,100 --> 00:03:37,066 And eventually, she just... 60 00:03:38,367 --> 00:03:39,533 changed 61 00:03:41,500 --> 00:03:46,266 and was an unrecognizable person from the person he met. 62 00:03:47,967 --> 00:03:50,000 Ultimately, she became... 63 00:03:51,734 --> 00:03:53,166 a monster. 64 00:03:55,166 --> 00:03:58,867 I always wondered, like, how is this gonna end? 65 00:03:58,867 --> 00:04:00,000 Because it just gets more and more extreme every time. 66 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,634 Because it just gets more and more extreme every time. 67 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:07,433 But I never thought she would do what she did. 68 00:04:29,967 --> 00:04:30,000 Myself, my sister, and my dad 69 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,066 Myself, my sister, and my dad 70 00:04:33,100 --> 00:04:37,266 all didn't realize what was happening with my mom. 71 00:04:37,333 --> 00:04:40,100 It was a slow and steady buildup. 72 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:45,634 I learned that my mom was very selfish. 73 00:04:45,634 --> 00:04:47,634 Everything had to be her way. 74 00:04:50,166 --> 00:04:52,867 My mom would make me wake up early, 75 00:04:52,867 --> 00:04:57,000 I think it was around 6 AM, and practice piano 76 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,900 for an hour every -- every morning. 77 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:00,000 -[discordant piano notes] -One and two, three, four. 78 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,734 -[discordant piano notes] -One and two, three, four. 79 00:05:02,734 --> 00:05:06,266 My mom would be standing directly behind 80 00:05:06,333 --> 00:05:08,367 and to the right of me. 81 00:05:08,433 --> 00:05:13,467 She would be holding her stick and keeping the beat of 82 00:05:13,533 --> 00:05:14,533 whatever I was playing. 83 00:05:14,634 --> 00:05:17,734 AS SUNGNAM: And two, three, four. 84 00:05:17,734 --> 00:05:24,700 Any time I slouched a little or played the wrong note, 85 00:05:24,700 --> 00:05:27,634 she would hit me and make me start over again. 86 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:30,000 I just thought that's what happens when you mess up. 87 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,734 I just thought that's what happens when you mess up. 88 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,500 Again! 89 00:05:34,500 --> 00:05:36,967 VICTORIA: We just accepted it as normal. 90 00:05:36,967 --> 00:05:39,000 One and two, three... 91 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,967 I didn't tell anybody, because my dad was 92 00:05:42,967 --> 00:05:46,867 often at work, and she told us 93 00:05:46,867 --> 00:05:49,066 not to tell people, so I didn't. 94 00:05:49,100 --> 00:05:51,066 Three, four. 95 00:05:56,734 --> 00:06:00,000 VICTORIA: My mom never asked if we wanted to play the piano. 96 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:00,533 VICTORIA: My mom never asked if we wanted to play the piano. 97 00:06:00,634 --> 00:06:04,634 She just forced us to do it, because that's what she wanted. 98 00:06:06,066 --> 00:06:09,634 This was more than a mom who wants their kid 99 00:06:09,734 --> 00:06:10,967 to have a hobby. 100 00:06:10,967 --> 00:06:15,266 The only reason she beat me and forced me to practice 101 00:06:15,333 --> 00:06:19,634 so much and so hard is because it made her look good. 102 00:06:21,100 --> 00:06:23,700 We would have recitals, piano recitals, 103 00:06:23,700 --> 00:06:26,533 which is why she made us practice so much. 104 00:06:26,533 --> 00:06:29,467 It meant a lot to her to tell people that 105 00:06:29,533 --> 00:06:30,000 I won a gold first place trophy at a piano recital. 106 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,233 I won a gold first place trophy at a piano recital. 107 00:06:35,266 --> 00:06:38,066 She felt that she was better than everyone. 108 00:06:38,066 --> 00:06:41,166 And then she would tell that to us. 109 00:06:41,166 --> 00:06:43,533 She said things like, "You're special. 110 00:06:43,634 --> 00:06:47,634 You're not like these people, like, you're better." 111 00:06:47,734 --> 00:06:50,533 We recognized that we have 112 00:06:50,634 --> 00:06:53,166 a very different life than everyone else, 113 00:06:53,166 --> 00:06:54,166 but it wasn't better. 114 00:06:54,233 --> 00:06:56,333 It was not better. It was worse. 115 00:07:07,700 --> 00:07:10,967 One day, my sister and I were arguing, like sisters do. 116 00:07:10,967 --> 00:07:13,367 Give me the marker back. 117 00:07:13,433 --> 00:07:15,000 My mom said, like, you have 118 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,166 to apologize and be the bigger person. 119 00:07:18,166 --> 00:07:20,734 I didn't want to, because she was definitely wrong. 120 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,533 And she was, like, egging me on all day. 121 00:07:23,533 --> 00:07:26,066 She never shares! 122 00:07:26,100 --> 00:07:27,800 VICTORIA: I told my mom it was unfair. 123 00:07:28,734 --> 00:07:30,000 I knew immediately from her face and just 124 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,867 I knew immediately from her face and just 125 00:07:33,867 --> 00:07:37,100 her demeanor that something bad was gonna happen. 126 00:07:38,700 --> 00:07:41,266 When my mother was really upset, 127 00:07:41,266 --> 00:07:43,967 like, her lips would tighten, 128 00:07:43,967 --> 00:07:46,266 her face would change. 129 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,967 Her body would be, like, stiffer, 130 00:07:49,967 --> 00:07:51,634 her eyes looked different. 131 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,266 And then she started hitting my sister, 132 00:07:57,266 --> 00:07:59,800 beating her, like with her fists. 133 00:07:59,900 --> 00:08:00,000 Stop! Mommy! Stop! Stop! 134 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,100 Stop! Mommy! Stop! Stop! 135 00:08:03,100 --> 00:08:05,166 She was wailing on my sister. 136 00:08:05,166 --> 00:08:07,266 I didn't know what to do. I was completely helpless. 137 00:08:07,266 --> 00:08:08,467 [child screams] 138 00:08:08,533 --> 00:08:10,266 It was really scary. 139 00:08:10,266 --> 00:08:13,266 And my sister was, like, on the ground, 140 00:08:13,266 --> 00:08:17,867 just cowered and trying to protect herself, 141 00:08:17,867 --> 00:08:21,066 and she wasn't stopping. 142 00:08:25,266 --> 00:08:26,533 And, uh... 143 00:08:28,166 --> 00:08:30,000 I screamed, like, stop, you're gonna kill her. 144 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,634 I screamed, like, stop, you're gonna kill her. 145 00:08:32,634 --> 00:08:35,867 Stop! Stop, mommy! 146 00:08:35,867 --> 00:08:40,367 And she said, "See what happens when 147 00:08:41,467 --> 00:08:45,367 you don't take responsibility?" 148 00:08:45,367 --> 00:08:47,734 Then she just walked out, and... 149 00:08:48,700 --> 00:08:52,233 my sister and I were both just crying. 150 00:08:53,634 --> 00:08:57,367 My dad was either traveling or just at work, 151 00:08:57,367 --> 00:09:00,000 and so my dad had no idea that it happened. 152 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:00,800 and so my dad had no idea that it happened. 153 00:09:03,467 --> 00:09:05,266 CHRISTINE: I do not remember that. 154 00:09:05,266 --> 00:09:07,533 There are a lot of things I don't remember. 155 00:09:07,533 --> 00:09:10,900 I think either I try to block it out. 156 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,700 It's just a coping mechanism, where we try 157 00:09:14,700 --> 00:09:17,066 not to remember what happened to us. 158 00:09:17,100 --> 00:09:18,266 She got angrier 159 00:09:18,333 --> 00:09:20,000 if, you know, one of us would 160 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,900 intervene and try to help the other. 161 00:09:24,500 --> 00:09:27,166 She would have this punishment in mind, 162 00:09:27,233 --> 00:09:29,533 and then if something, you know, disrupted that, 163 00:09:29,634 --> 00:09:30,000 then it would escalate even further. 164 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,166 then it would escalate even further. 165 00:09:32,166 --> 00:09:34,266 I just remember being really scared. 166 00:09:44,700 --> 00:09:47,533 VICTORIA: So I was sleeping over at my friend's house. 167 00:09:47,634 --> 00:09:51,166 It was like late at night, and his mom comes in. 168 00:09:51,233 --> 00:09:54,634 "We have to go back to your house," and I thought it was 169 00:09:54,634 --> 00:09:56,166 pretty strange. 170 00:09:56,233 --> 00:09:58,867 I get to the house, and the police are there. 171 00:09:58,867 --> 00:10:00,000 My dad had a black eye, and he had, like, 172 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,266 My dad had a black eye, and he had, like, 173 00:10:01,266 --> 00:10:03,233 a cut on his face, on his cheek. 174 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,634 I had never seen my dad hurt before, 175 00:10:07,734 --> 00:10:11,367 physically -- I was concerned and wondering 176 00:10:11,367 --> 00:10:14,367 and confused why he looked like that. 177 00:10:14,367 --> 00:10:16,734 I don't remember seeing my mom, maybe she was off in 178 00:10:16,734 --> 00:10:17,867 another room. 179 00:10:17,867 --> 00:10:20,500 So when I finally got a chance to talk to my dad, 180 00:10:20,500 --> 00:10:24,166 I asked him what happened, and he said he ran into a tree 181 00:10:24,166 --> 00:10:26,734 or bumped into a door, 182 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,066 and that's how he got the cut on his face 183 00:10:29,100 --> 00:10:30,000 and the black eye and the ripped shirt. 184 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,333 and the black eye and the ripped shirt. 185 00:10:33,867 --> 00:10:35,867 I think he protected her, too, 186 00:10:35,867 --> 00:10:38,066 like from the cops. 187 00:10:38,066 --> 00:10:39,367 We never talked about it. 188 00:10:39,433 --> 00:10:40,634 It was just... 189 00:10:40,634 --> 00:10:45,367 never talked about or discussed or explained. 190 00:10:45,367 --> 00:10:47,166 Just went on with our lives. 191 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,634 He endured that for 192 00:10:51,634 --> 00:10:53,634 my sister and I, 193 00:10:54,867 --> 00:10:57,166 but I just always -- it was like this 194 00:10:57,166 --> 00:11:00,000 deep fear, like, what's gonna happen next time. 195 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,000 deep fear, like, what's gonna happen next time. 196 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,166 There was no way I could imagine what 197 00:11:03,233 --> 00:11:05,734 was gonna happen in the coming days. 198 00:11:17,266 --> 00:11:18,734 When I look at this photo, 199 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:24,734 it makes me feel the way I did when the picture was taken, 200 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:28,367 which was that I was embarrassed of her 201 00:11:28,433 --> 00:11:30,166 all the time. 202 00:11:30,233 --> 00:11:32,333 And I didn't want to be around her. 203 00:11:34,100 --> 00:11:35,867 I hated being around her. 204 00:11:38,166 --> 00:11:39,377 I've hated her for most of my life 205 00:11:39,377 --> 00:11:40,867 I've hated her for most of my life 206 00:11:40,867 --> 00:11:44,266 that I can remember, because she was 207 00:11:44,266 --> 00:11:47,734 always just forcing me to do things that I didn't want 208 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:52,233 to do, yelling at my dad, and being violent. 209 00:11:52,266 --> 00:11:55,467 And so I hated her from a pretty young age. 210 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,066 By the time I got to high school, 211 00:12:03,100 --> 00:12:06,066 my parents had grown pretty distant, 212 00:12:06,066 --> 00:12:08,233 and my dad was traveling a lot more. 213 00:12:09,734 --> 00:12:13,467 I think my mom purposely beat us 214 00:12:13,533 --> 00:12:15,634 when my dad wasn't around, like, 215 00:12:15,734 --> 00:12:20,734 when he was at work or away on travel or whatever. 216 00:12:22,100 --> 00:12:26,867 The erratic behavior was increasing and getting worse. 217 00:12:27,867 --> 00:12:29,867 You never knew what would set her off. 218 00:12:29,867 --> 00:12:31,734 It could be the stupidest thing. 219 00:12:35,100 --> 00:12:36,800 My sister and I fought about something 220 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:38,533 that I don't remember, 221 00:12:38,533 --> 00:12:39,377 and she got really mad at us. 222 00:12:39,377 --> 00:12:42,266 and she got really mad at us. 223 00:12:42,266 --> 00:12:46,634 She beat us and then told us to go in the garage 224 00:12:46,734 --> 00:12:49,533 and hold our hands up and not touch the door 225 00:12:49,634 --> 00:12:53,166 and not talk to each other until she let us out. 226 00:12:53,166 --> 00:12:55,467 And she was very specific about that. 227 00:12:58,367 --> 00:13:01,266 I always wanted to just go along with what 228 00:13:01,266 --> 00:13:04,000 she said, because I knew otherwise, it would be worse. 229 00:13:05,500 --> 00:13:08,166 It was summer, it was hot. 230 00:13:08,166 --> 00:13:09,377 She had turned the lights off, so it was dark. 231 00:13:09,377 --> 00:13:12,000 She had turned the lights off, so it was dark. 232 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,634 CHRISTINE: I don't think anything surprised me in terms 233 00:13:14,734 --> 00:13:18,367 of what sort of punishment she would have for us. 234 00:13:18,367 --> 00:13:22,266 We were terrified of her and whatever her response would be 235 00:13:22,266 --> 00:13:23,700 if we did open the door. 236 00:13:23,700 --> 00:13:27,367 We were terrified that she'd come at any time and then beat 237 00:13:27,367 --> 00:13:28,533 the [bleep] out of us. 238 00:13:30,066 --> 00:13:33,233 CHRISTINE: How long was she gonna have a stay there? 239 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:39,377 I just remember sitting there for, I mean, 240 00:13:39,377 --> 00:13:41,066 I just remember sitting there for, I mean, 241 00:13:41,100 --> 00:13:42,533 it must have been hours. 242 00:13:45,266 --> 00:13:49,367 And then eventually, we kind of were like, okay, 243 00:13:49,433 --> 00:13:52,467 I don't think she's coming back. 244 00:13:52,467 --> 00:13:54,600 VICTORIA: So eventually, 245 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,166 we did open the door and went upstairs, and she wasn't home. 246 00:13:59,634 --> 00:14:02,533 Who does that to their own kid or anybody, 247 00:14:02,533 --> 00:14:04,367 but also their own kid? 248 00:14:04,367 --> 00:14:06,533 I mean, that's almost like how prisoners 249 00:14:06,634 --> 00:14:09,377 and...torture -- that's the type 250 00:14:09,377 --> 00:14:10,367 and...torture -- that's the type 251 00:14:10,433 --> 00:14:13,066 of abuse I feel like she did to us. 252 00:14:15,367 --> 00:14:18,367 It's just another example of how 253 00:14:21,467 --> 00:14:23,166 she is a psychopath. 254 00:14:37,166 --> 00:14:39,377 My sister and I were late in the morning, 255 00:14:39,377 --> 00:14:39,533 My sister and I were late in the morning, 256 00:14:39,634 --> 00:14:41,233 and we missed the bus. 257 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,367 I think my mom was mad that we missed the bus, like, 258 00:14:48,367 --> 00:14:54,634 more than once that week, and now she had to drive us again. 259 00:14:54,734 --> 00:14:59,266 She is flooring it and turning the steering wheel 260 00:14:59,266 --> 00:15:01,367 as hard as she can left and right. 261 00:15:05,467 --> 00:15:07,867 It was such an extreme reaction for something 262 00:15:07,867 --> 00:15:09,377 that seemed so, you know, normal, and it was an accident. 263 00:15:09,377 --> 00:15:11,533 that seemed so, you know, normal, and it was an accident. 264 00:15:11,533 --> 00:15:13,233 You know, we missed the bus. 265 00:15:13,266 --> 00:15:17,066 We weren't the only kids who have ever done that before. 266 00:15:17,100 --> 00:15:18,533 She was swerving so bad that 267 00:15:18,533 --> 00:15:22,166 it was, like, lifting off the ground, 268 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,233 and she was just berating us. 269 00:15:27,533 --> 00:15:30,066 CHRISTINE: We were weaving in and out of the road. 270 00:15:30,066 --> 00:15:34,800 She was yelling at us, saying like, "Is this what you want?" 271 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,367 Mom, stop! 272 00:15:37,433 --> 00:15:39,377 CHRISTINE: We were crying, because we were so afraid. 273 00:15:39,377 --> 00:15:40,900 CHRISTINE: We were crying, because we were so afraid. 274 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:45,066 I remember us telling her to stop and slow down. 275 00:15:45,100 --> 00:15:49,467 She didn't seem to care about our safety or anything. 276 00:15:49,533 --> 00:15:52,066 She was acting insane. 277 00:15:53,166 --> 00:15:55,867 She didn't care if we lived or died. 278 00:15:55,867 --> 00:16:00,066 It was just like pure terror, 279 00:16:00,066 --> 00:16:02,800 and my heart's beating fast just thinking about it. 280 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,800 I thought she was gonna kill us. 281 00:16:10,367 --> 00:16:12,734 We pull up to the school, and she's just basically like, 282 00:16:12,734 --> 00:16:14,066 "Get out." 283 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,367 I didn't tell my teacher or anybody. 284 00:16:22,367 --> 00:16:25,333 I didn't think they would understand. 285 00:16:30,367 --> 00:16:32,867 Things got worse and more chaotic 286 00:16:32,900 --> 00:16:35,734 and, um, violent. 287 00:16:36,700 --> 00:16:39,377 I tried my best to feel normal, but... 288 00:16:39,377 --> 00:16:40,066 I tried my best to feel normal, but... 289 00:16:41,266 --> 00:16:43,867 but it was very obvious that it wasn't normal. 290 00:16:56,467 --> 00:17:00,634 My mom would go out a lot with her friends, 291 00:17:00,734 --> 00:17:05,266 drinking and partying and doing whatever she wanted. 292 00:17:05,266 --> 00:17:09,377 She spent so much money on herself and clothes. 293 00:17:09,377 --> 00:17:09,600 She spent so much money on herself and clothes. 294 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,533 We were deeply, like, going into debt, 295 00:17:13,533 --> 00:17:16,433 and the bank was threatening to take the house. 296 00:17:18,166 --> 00:17:21,734 My dad confronted her about her partying 297 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:23,166 and never being there. 298 00:17:23,233 --> 00:17:26,066 AS JOHN: What do you think, I'm a bank?! 299 00:17:26,066 --> 00:17:27,467 AS SUNGNAM: Hey! 300 00:17:27,533 --> 00:17:30,533 VICTORIA: She started chasing him around the house. 301 00:17:30,533 --> 00:17:34,600 When she caught up to him, she started punching him. 302 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,967 -AS SUNGNAM: Come back here! -No, get away from me! 303 00:17:36,967 --> 00:17:39,377 She was punching him -- he was trying to defend himself 304 00:17:39,377 --> 00:17:41,634 She was punching him -- he was trying to defend himself 305 00:17:41,734 --> 00:17:45,900 and tried to catch her wrist as she was punching him. 306 00:17:47,166 --> 00:17:50,100 But that just made her more angry 307 00:17:50,100 --> 00:17:53,900 and more determined to hurt him. 308 00:17:55,700 --> 00:17:59,600 It just seemed like when she would get to that point, 309 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,233 it didn't matter to her that we were standing right there. 310 00:18:05,266 --> 00:18:06,634 Kind of like... 311 00:18:08,367 --> 00:18:09,377 witnessing a car crash. 312 00:18:09,377 --> 00:18:11,233 witnessing a car crash. 313 00:18:12,166 --> 00:18:16,600 She got upset that he was resisting her beating. 314 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,634 Let go of me! 315 00:18:21,500 --> 00:18:23,266 [breathing heavily] 316 00:18:23,266 --> 00:18:27,467 And she said, "I'm gonna call the cops," and then 317 00:18:27,533 --> 00:18:29,900 she went and called the cops, and the cops came. 318 00:18:32,867 --> 00:18:35,467 She's telling them that he's beating her 319 00:18:35,467 --> 00:18:37,967 and that he's abusive. 320 00:18:37,967 --> 00:18:39,377 She was trying to make it seem like he was an abusive dad. 321 00:18:39,377 --> 00:18:42,000 She was trying to make it seem like he was an abusive dad. 322 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,266 And just now, he tried to hit me! 323 00:18:44,266 --> 00:18:45,533 That's not true! 324 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,533 VICTORIA: I actually said, like, she's lying. 325 00:18:51,533 --> 00:18:55,467 The police asked me what happened, and I said I was 326 00:18:55,467 --> 00:18:58,000 here the entire time, I saw the whole thing. 327 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,533 She was the aggressor. 328 00:19:00,533 --> 00:19:04,467 She tried to hit him and punch him and chase him around, 329 00:19:04,467 --> 00:19:06,166 and then she threatened to call the police 330 00:19:06,166 --> 00:19:09,166 and say that he did it. 331 00:19:10,533 --> 00:19:14,066 Then they just left without helping 332 00:19:14,100 --> 00:19:16,266 us or my dad, 333 00:19:16,266 --> 00:19:21,467 and it was really frustrating 334 00:19:21,467 --> 00:19:24,166 that they didn't 335 00:19:24,233 --> 00:19:26,166 seem to think it was a big deal. 336 00:19:31,100 --> 00:19:33,266 It just cemented the fact that 337 00:19:33,266 --> 00:19:35,634 there was really nothing we could do. 338 00:19:35,734 --> 00:19:38,266 Like it was like this bomb. 339 00:19:38,266 --> 00:19:39,377 Like you don't want to set it off or you don't want to 340 00:19:39,377 --> 00:19:41,000 Like you don't want to set it off or you don't want to 341 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,734 disturb it, because it's gonna go off. 342 00:19:52,533 --> 00:19:55,900 I remember one night, my parents were fighting 343 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,367 about money. 344 00:19:57,367 --> 00:19:59,266 He couldn't keep up with her spending. 345 00:19:59,333 --> 00:20:01,333 So he said, "I'm gonna cancel your card." 346 00:20:03,634 --> 00:20:07,166 And she left the room for a minute 347 00:20:07,233 --> 00:20:08,533 and came back with a knife, 348 00:20:10,266 --> 00:20:13,467 and at one point, 349 00:20:13,467 --> 00:20:17,000 she had him pinned, like, against a wall, 350 00:20:20,367 --> 00:20:22,967 and then she cut him on his cheek 351 00:20:22,967 --> 00:20:24,433 with the knife, 352 00:20:25,734 --> 00:20:27,734 and he was begging her to stop. 353 00:20:27,734 --> 00:20:29,967 He was crying, he was terrified. 354 00:20:29,967 --> 00:20:31,900 Like, we were all terrified of her. 355 00:20:33,066 --> 00:20:36,500 I don't think she could control her rage. 356 00:20:36,500 --> 00:20:38,233 [crying quietly] 357 00:20:40,867 --> 00:20:43,367 The whole situation was -- 358 00:20:43,367 --> 00:20:45,100 just seemed out of control. 359 00:20:47,266 --> 00:20:49,897 We were just in shock and like horror, 360 00:20:49,897 --> 00:20:51,166 We were just in shock and like horror, 361 00:20:51,166 --> 00:20:53,367 watching this unfold. 362 00:20:55,600 --> 00:21:00,367 My dad being that scared it -- it was just -- 363 00:21:00,433 --> 00:21:01,800 it was terrifying for me 364 00:21:01,900 --> 00:21:05,533 and also, you know, really sad that, you know, that he could -- 365 00:21:05,533 --> 00:21:08,066 he had to be scared of his wife. 366 00:21:11,166 --> 00:21:12,634 Things were escalating. 367 00:21:12,734 --> 00:21:18,066 She wasn't afraid to take the violence to the next level. 368 00:21:19,734 --> 00:21:19,897 I would never think that she -- 369 00:21:19,897 --> 00:21:22,734 I would never think that she -- 370 00:21:22,734 --> 00:21:24,967 that it would go as far as it did 371 00:21:24,967 --> 00:21:27,634 and that she would do what she did. 372 00:21:27,734 --> 00:21:29,800 VICTORIA: He was begging for her to stop 373 00:21:29,900 --> 00:21:34,634 and crying, and she could sense almost, 374 00:21:34,734 --> 00:21:36,467 like an animal, 375 00:21:36,533 --> 00:21:39,533 like that she had defeated him. 376 00:21:41,166 --> 00:21:43,634 And she just backed off. 377 00:21:59,533 --> 00:22:00,967 CHRISTINE: Leading up to Christmas, 378 00:22:00,967 --> 00:22:05,533 my dad had been gone a lot longer for his trips. 379 00:22:05,634 --> 00:22:09,367 So he had been going to China a lot more often and, you know, 380 00:22:09,433 --> 00:22:12,266 it would be like weeks where he was there, but he was gonna 381 00:22:12,266 --> 00:22:14,800 be back, you know, for the holidays. 382 00:22:17,166 --> 00:22:19,897 A couple of weeks before he was coming back to Illinois, 383 00:22:19,897 --> 00:22:20,533 A couple of weeks before he was coming back to Illinois, 384 00:22:20,634 --> 00:22:25,266 I was in his computer room, and I saw some papers 385 00:22:25,333 --> 00:22:28,467 that were in the printer, 386 00:22:28,467 --> 00:22:32,266 and I saw that it was an email from my dad to my mom. 387 00:22:32,266 --> 00:22:36,166 Basically, it said that he had met someone in China, 388 00:22:36,166 --> 00:22:38,734 that he wanted a divorce, 389 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,166 and that he wanted to take my sister and I 390 00:22:42,166 --> 00:22:43,900 to China to live with him. 391 00:22:47,367 --> 00:22:49,897 It was a huge turning point for my mom, because... 392 00:22:49,897 --> 00:22:51,066 It was a huge turning point for my mom, because... 393 00:22:51,066 --> 00:22:55,266 she could feel, like, her control slipping away, 394 00:22:55,266 --> 00:22:58,467 and she wasn't gonna let that happen. 395 00:23:12,533 --> 00:23:14,266 VICTORIA: My mom 396 00:23:14,266 --> 00:23:17,066 was acting completely different 397 00:23:17,066 --> 00:23:18,634 than she normally does. 398 00:23:18,734 --> 00:23:19,897 She kept insisting that we all go 399 00:23:19,897 --> 00:23:21,900 She kept insisting that we all go 400 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,967 to dinner as a family, which we did. 401 00:23:25,967 --> 00:23:31,266 After that, she wanted to play games together as a family, 402 00:23:31,333 --> 00:23:35,266 which we hadn't done since probably I was seven or so. 403 00:23:35,333 --> 00:23:37,367 All right, who's thirsty? 404 00:23:37,367 --> 00:23:41,367 VICTORIA: And she prepares, like, snacks, 405 00:23:41,367 --> 00:23:44,500 like a tray with cokes for each 406 00:23:44,500 --> 00:23:49,734 of us with ice and a bowl of chips or something like that. 407 00:23:51,266 --> 00:23:55,166 And she was acting all jovial and happy 408 00:23:55,166 --> 00:23:57,734 and laughing and... 409 00:23:59,066 --> 00:24:00,734 It was just very strange, and she 410 00:24:00,734 --> 00:24:03,734 was just trying to act like this 411 00:24:03,734 --> 00:24:09,166 happy lady with a perfect family, I guess. 412 00:24:09,166 --> 00:24:11,734 It was just so... 413 00:24:11,734 --> 00:24:14,800 odd for her to act the way that she was. 414 00:24:17,634 --> 00:24:19,897 We looked closer at the coke and saw 415 00:24:19,897 --> 00:24:20,367 We looked closer at the coke and saw 416 00:24:20,433 --> 00:24:24,266 some kind of white something at the bottom. 417 00:24:27,734 --> 00:24:29,800 At that point, we thought definitely, 418 00:24:29,900 --> 00:24:32,900 you know, something was -- something was going on. 419 00:24:38,500 --> 00:24:42,066 VICTORIA: We both realized she drugged the cokes. 420 00:24:45,634 --> 00:24:49,897 So we kind of just took little tiny sips just 421 00:24:49,897 --> 00:24:50,266 So we kind of just took little tiny sips just 422 00:24:50,333 --> 00:24:53,533 so it wouldn't be obvious to my mom that we knew. 423 00:24:54,634 --> 00:24:58,734 Um, but my dad had no idea and didn't suspect 424 00:24:58,734 --> 00:25:03,367 anything, and he drank, like, he drank the entire coke. 425 00:25:03,367 --> 00:25:05,367 ACTOR AS JOHN: Oh, that hit the spot. 426 00:25:05,367 --> 00:25:06,734 Well, I hope so. 427 00:25:08,066 --> 00:25:10,533 VICTORIA: It just felt like a nightmare, seeing him 428 00:25:10,634 --> 00:25:13,867 finish the whole coke. 429 00:25:13,867 --> 00:25:15,634 All right, girls. Whose turn now? 430 00:25:15,634 --> 00:25:18,333 VICTORIA: I wish I could have... 431 00:25:19,634 --> 00:25:19,897 taken out of his hand and dumped it down the drain 432 00:25:19,897 --> 00:25:22,634 taken out of his hand and dumped it down the drain 433 00:25:22,634 --> 00:25:24,367 and said... 434 00:25:25,500 --> 00:25:29,367 "Mom's trying to poison and kill you," but 435 00:25:29,367 --> 00:25:31,900 she was right there, so I couldn't do anything. 436 00:25:33,533 --> 00:25:35,066 After playing the game, 437 00:25:35,066 --> 00:25:37,233 he was tired and wanted to go to sleep. 438 00:25:40,166 --> 00:25:43,800 I went upstairs with Christine and my dad, 439 00:25:43,900 --> 00:25:45,533 and we sat on his bed, 440 00:25:45,533 --> 00:25:49,266 and he was laying down, because he was sleepy. 441 00:25:49,266 --> 00:25:49,897 And I said to him, "I think mom's trying to kill you." 442 00:25:49,897 --> 00:25:53,166 And I said to him, "I think mom's trying to kill you." 443 00:25:54,266 --> 00:25:59,467 And he just chuckled, and he said, "Haha, I hope not." 444 00:25:59,467 --> 00:26:01,734 And he was falling asleep as he said that. 445 00:26:03,266 --> 00:26:05,166 CHRISTINE: I was terrified for my dad. 446 00:26:05,166 --> 00:26:06,734 And I just remember we were 447 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,800 just, like, pleading that he would just... 448 00:26:11,867 --> 00:26:15,367 just, like, you know, stay in a hotel or be -- even if 449 00:26:15,367 --> 00:26:19,897 it was with us or by himself, just not be there. 450 00:26:19,897 --> 00:26:20,467 it was with us or by himself, just not be there. 451 00:26:20,533 --> 00:26:23,634 I think we just knew, like, something was gonna happen. 452 00:26:32,533 --> 00:26:36,166 This is a picture of our house. 453 00:26:37,900 --> 00:26:42,533 So, yeah, this is where, you know, we lived, um, 454 00:26:42,634 --> 00:26:45,900 when it all happened, and it looks like this 455 00:26:45,900 --> 00:26:49,000 is actually probably the day that it happened, 456 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,467 um, since there's Christmas wreaths and everything, 457 00:26:52,467 --> 00:26:53,634 the caution tape. 458 00:26:56,533 --> 00:27:00,505 Christmas is hard, but so is, like, pretty much every holiday, 459 00:27:00,505 --> 00:27:01,734 Christmas is hard, but so is, like, pretty much every holiday, 460 00:27:01,734 --> 00:27:04,166 um, just because, yeah, I mean, 461 00:27:04,233 --> 00:27:07,634 it's hard to see other people with their families. 462 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,734 Um... [sniffles] Yeah. 463 00:27:22,367 --> 00:27:24,800 VICTORIA: On Christmas morning, my sister and I 464 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,533 woke up at the same time, 465 00:27:26,634 --> 00:27:30,505 and we wished each other Merry Christmas. 466 00:27:30,505 --> 00:27:30,734 and we wished each other Merry Christmas. 467 00:27:30,734 --> 00:27:34,166 CHRISTINE: I remember waking up and feeling 468 00:27:34,166 --> 00:27:37,000 just really tired and not normal. 469 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,166 I didn't put the two together, that it 470 00:27:40,166 --> 00:27:43,266 might have been from the drink the night before. 471 00:27:43,266 --> 00:27:46,533 And then we heard a noise from downstairs. 472 00:27:46,533 --> 00:27:48,867 [crashing noise] 473 00:27:48,900 --> 00:27:51,734 It sounded like a pot falling 474 00:27:51,734 --> 00:27:53,734 and hitting the ground and clattering. 475 00:27:54,700 --> 00:27:57,734 And we both, like, stopped and looked at each other, 476 00:27:57,734 --> 00:27:59,233 and we were like, what was that? 477 00:28:00,467 --> 00:28:00,505 CHRISTINE: To me, it sounded kind of 478 00:28:00,505 --> 00:28:01,734 CHRISTINE: To me, it sounded kind of 479 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,734 like those little poppers with the streamers. 480 00:28:06,266 --> 00:28:07,967 Then, within a few minutes, 481 00:28:09,734 --> 00:28:13,734 our mom was in our doorway, and she was, 482 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,800 you know, fiddling with something in her hand. 483 00:28:17,367 --> 00:28:18,734 AS SUNGNAM: Sorry. 484 00:28:18,734 --> 00:28:21,634 And she just keeps saying, "I'm so sorry." 485 00:28:21,634 --> 00:28:23,634 And then I realized she had a gun. 486 00:28:25,100 --> 00:28:26,634 Please forgive me. 487 00:28:28,100 --> 00:28:29,634 [two gunshot blasts] 488 00:28:32,867 --> 00:28:35,533 She unloaded all the rounds 489 00:28:36,467 --> 00:28:38,166 at me. -[gunshots blasting] 490 00:28:38,233 --> 00:28:39,333 I was hit... 491 00:28:40,367 --> 00:28:42,166 I think seven times. 492 00:28:43,266 --> 00:28:47,000 You hear the noise first, loud bang, 493 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,333 [gunshot blasts] 494 00:28:48,367 --> 00:28:53,734 and then just the sensation of, like, water being poured on you, 495 00:28:53,734 --> 00:28:57,533 but it's warm, and it's my blood, 496 00:28:57,533 --> 00:28:59,166 and it's everywhere. 497 00:29:02,500 --> 00:29:04,900 And then the pain and the smell 498 00:29:04,900 --> 00:29:09,266 of, like, my flesh burning and the gunpowder. 499 00:29:09,266 --> 00:29:12,634 I just remember being in complete shock, 500 00:29:12,634 --> 00:29:14,166 not knowing what to do. 501 00:29:14,166 --> 00:29:16,266 I just kind of froze, 502 00:29:16,266 --> 00:29:19,166 but then she was reloading. 503 00:29:19,233 --> 00:29:23,734 And my sister said, "Christine, you have to go. 504 00:29:23,734 --> 00:29:25,867 You have to call the cops." 505 00:29:25,900 --> 00:29:29,066 I have to get to the phone, which was past my mom. 506 00:29:29,100 --> 00:29:30,505 She was still in the doorway, 507 00:29:30,505 --> 00:29:30,533 She was still in the doorway, 508 00:29:30,634 --> 00:29:32,734 and then I just had to get around her. 509 00:29:34,867 --> 00:29:37,734 I kind of just brushed past her. 510 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,166 When I called 911, I said, "We need help. 511 00:29:42,233 --> 00:29:43,800 Our mom is shooting at us." 512 00:29:44,900 --> 00:29:48,367 I really don't remember being on the phone with them too long 513 00:29:48,367 --> 00:29:52,734 before my mom came in the doorway, and she had the gun. 514 00:29:53,867 --> 00:29:56,066 So I ran past my mom. 515 00:29:58,100 --> 00:30:00,505 Then, you know, she started shooting at me. 516 00:30:00,505 --> 00:30:01,333 Then, you know, she started shooting at me. 517 00:30:01,367 --> 00:30:04,233 [three gunshot blasts] 518 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,634 I could see that my arm was, like, flopping around. 519 00:30:12,634 --> 00:30:14,734 She had completely shot through my elbow, 520 00:30:14,734 --> 00:30:19,166 and my arm was fractured and flopping around. 521 00:30:19,166 --> 00:30:21,533 VICTORIA: I asked her, "Did you call the police?" 522 00:30:21,533 --> 00:30:23,634 And she said yes. 523 00:30:23,634 --> 00:30:28,367 Then I heard the sirens, and then I heard her 524 00:30:28,367 --> 00:30:30,505 shoot herself once. 525 00:30:30,505 --> 00:30:32,367 shoot herself once. 526 00:30:32,367 --> 00:30:34,166 [gunshot blasts] 527 00:30:34,233 --> 00:30:36,100 [distant sirens wailing] 528 00:30:36,100 --> 00:30:39,634 And I knew she shot herself, because I heard her scream. 529 00:30:42,467 --> 00:30:46,967 We just laid there, bleeding, 530 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,166 and... 531 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,233 not knowing if we were gonna live or die. 532 00:30:57,266 --> 00:31:00,066 And I told her, I loved her, 533 00:31:00,066 --> 00:31:00,505 and she said, "I love you, too." 534 00:31:00,505 --> 00:31:02,800 and she said, "I love you, too." 535 00:31:15,533 --> 00:31:18,000 I was unconscious. 536 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,734 I don't know how long till I woke up in the hospital later. 537 00:31:22,734 --> 00:31:27,000 Well, I remember being questioned by police. 538 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,967 At that point, they had told me about my dad, 539 00:31:31,634 --> 00:31:33,634 and I remember just crying, because 540 00:31:33,634 --> 00:31:37,734 I was just, like, in complete shock. 541 00:31:40,100 --> 00:31:41,734 [voice breaking] Just didn't expect that. 542 00:31:58,734 --> 00:32:00,505 The sounds that we heard in the morning, 543 00:32:00,505 --> 00:32:00,734 The sounds that we heard in the morning, 544 00:32:01,533 --> 00:32:05,166 that was probably when my mom was shooting my dad. 545 00:32:05,166 --> 00:32:07,900 She had shot him first. 546 00:32:07,900 --> 00:32:10,634 And then she came after us after that. 547 00:32:13,734 --> 00:32:18,000 When I woke up in the ICU in a private room, 548 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,266 I was alone and had no idea 549 00:32:21,266 --> 00:32:24,634 where my dad was or my sister. 550 00:32:24,634 --> 00:32:26,867 When my mom shot me, 551 00:32:26,900 --> 00:32:29,734 I put my hands up to defend myself. 552 00:32:29,734 --> 00:32:30,505 And one of the bullets went through 553 00:32:30,505 --> 00:32:32,433 And one of the bullets went through 554 00:32:32,500 --> 00:32:35,634 the three of my fingers on my left hand, 555 00:32:35,634 --> 00:32:40,233 and they were dangling by the skin. 556 00:32:41,100 --> 00:32:44,467 Um, she also hit me multiple times 557 00:32:44,467 --> 00:32:48,967 in the abdomen and chest and lungs. 558 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:53,333 There's metal plates and screws 559 00:32:53,367 --> 00:32:58,166 to -- because the bone, there was no bone to even 560 00:32:58,166 --> 00:32:59,266 put back together. 561 00:32:59,266 --> 00:33:00,505 The metal is what's supporting fingers. 562 00:33:00,505 --> 00:33:03,000 The metal is what's supporting fingers. 563 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,734 And then this one, there's nothing really they 564 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,533 could do, so it's just what was left. 565 00:33:09,634 --> 00:33:11,900 And, uh, there was metal pins -- 566 00:33:11,900 --> 00:33:14,867 there's a metal pin that goes through my finger. 567 00:33:19,266 --> 00:33:21,533 No, I didn't care. 568 00:33:21,634 --> 00:33:24,100 I mean, I figured she was alive, because I heard her in 569 00:33:24,100 --> 00:33:26,533 the room next to me or in the ER, 570 00:33:26,533 --> 00:33:30,505 but yeah, I didn't ask about my mom, because I didn't really 571 00:33:30,505 --> 00:33:31,166 but yeah, I didn't ask about my mom, because I didn't really 572 00:33:31,166 --> 00:33:32,734 care if she was... 573 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,066 if she survived or not. 574 00:33:54,266 --> 00:33:56,000 After we recovered, 575 00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:00,433 I and my sister went to live with my aunt and uncle. 576 00:34:02,100 --> 00:34:04,734 I googled it myself, 577 00:34:04,734 --> 00:34:07,900 what had happened to my dad and how he passed away. 578 00:34:09,533 --> 00:34:12,533 The article online said he was sitting 579 00:34:12,533 --> 00:34:16,734 at his desk early that morning and working, 580 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,533 and she came into the room and shot him 581 00:34:19,533 --> 00:34:23,367 in the back of the head and back. 582 00:34:23,367 --> 00:34:25,533 I think five times, it said. 583 00:34:25,533 --> 00:34:28,266 [gunshot blasts] 584 00:34:28,266 --> 00:34:29,734 How do you react to that? 585 00:34:29,734 --> 00:34:30,505 It's like Jesus Christ. What a monster. 586 00:34:30,505 --> 00:34:33,433 It's like Jesus Christ. What a monster. 587 00:34:35,533 --> 00:34:37,900 I totally think that 588 00:34:39,367 --> 00:34:45,166 she was sane, and she chose to do what she did, 589 00:34:45,166 --> 00:34:48,433 and it was evil. 590 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,734 This is a picture of my mom's mug shot 591 00:35:03,734 --> 00:35:07,166 after she got out of the hospital. 592 00:35:10,634 --> 00:35:12,500 Her eyes look 593 00:35:12,500 --> 00:35:16,634 different than I ever saw them. 594 00:35:19,166 --> 00:35:20,367 They just look... 595 00:35:22,967 --> 00:35:24,367 sad. 596 00:35:26,166 --> 00:35:30,900 I'd see her smile and pretend to be happy or... 597 00:35:32,166 --> 00:35:34,867 pose for a camera 598 00:35:34,900 --> 00:35:37,066 or be angry. 599 00:35:37,100 --> 00:35:40,600 But I've never seen her really look like that before. 600 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,533 I didn't think she had that in her to be sad. 601 00:35:45,367 --> 00:35:47,533 You can't just kill somebody 602 00:35:47,533 --> 00:35:50,367 and then try to kill your daughters 603 00:35:50,367 --> 00:35:52,900 and not go to jail. 604 00:35:58,266 --> 00:36:01,734 So, when I see this, um... 605 00:36:03,066 --> 00:36:05,166 Yeah... [sniffles] 606 00:36:05,166 --> 00:36:06,467 I mean... 607 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,467 just makes me think about just, like, how 608 00:36:15,467 --> 00:36:18,467 horrible she was and everything she's done. 609 00:36:18,533 --> 00:36:20,600 I mean, clearly this is, you know, 610 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,467 after everything happened, and... 611 00:36:23,533 --> 00:36:25,384 I was taken by the police. 612 00:36:25,384 --> 00:36:25,467 I was taken by the police. 613 00:36:25,467 --> 00:36:28,166 But yeah, it's hard to look at... 614 00:36:28,166 --> 00:36:30,000 um, her. 615 00:36:55,700 --> 00:36:57,700 We never visited her. 616 00:36:57,700 --> 00:37:01,433 Uh, she tried to contact us, sent us letters. 617 00:37:04,467 --> 00:37:08,066 So these are the kinds of letters that she would send. 618 00:37:08,100 --> 00:37:09,867 Says, "Dearest Christine, 619 00:37:09,867 --> 00:37:13,166 "congratulations on your graduation, baby. 620 00:37:13,166 --> 00:37:16,166 "Good luck in your endless bright futures. 621 00:37:16,233 --> 00:37:18,266 "God bless you and peace to you, Doc. 622 00:37:18,266 --> 00:37:20,800 You are my proud Doc. Love, Mom Sungnam." 623 00:37:22,367 --> 00:37:24,166 Um, yeah, I mean, she would just -- 624 00:37:24,166 --> 00:37:25,384 said stuff like this all the time. 625 00:37:25,384 --> 00:37:26,166 said stuff like this all the time. 626 00:37:26,166 --> 00:37:28,166 It really didn't mean a lot to me. 627 00:37:28,233 --> 00:37:30,867 You know, she could say she's proud of us and things, 628 00:37:30,900 --> 00:37:34,166 but like clearly, 629 00:37:34,166 --> 00:37:36,233 um...just... 630 00:37:37,266 --> 00:37:39,867 After everything she did, there's nothing she could say 631 00:37:39,900 --> 00:37:43,367 to make anything -- you know, anything better. 632 00:37:45,533 --> 00:37:50,800 I never remember her saying sorry in the letters. 633 00:37:54,166 --> 00:37:55,266 I stopped reading them. 634 00:37:55,266 --> 00:37:55,384 It's just, you know, like what is the point of this? 635 00:37:55,384 --> 00:37:58,367 It's just, you know, like what is the point of this? 636 00:37:58,367 --> 00:38:01,867 She's not trying to take any responsibility, 637 00:38:01,900 --> 00:38:04,867 even though she did all those horrible things. 638 00:38:04,867 --> 00:38:06,634 [sniffles] 639 00:38:18,166 --> 00:38:22,634 VICTORIA: Recently, I found out my mom passed away in prison. 640 00:38:22,734 --> 00:38:25,384 And it wasn't until a few weeks after that 641 00:38:25,384 --> 00:38:27,000 And it wasn't until a few weeks after that 642 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,867 when I asked my uncle how she died, 643 00:38:29,867 --> 00:38:32,867 and he told me she committed suicide. 644 00:38:34,166 --> 00:38:38,867 She used a bed sheet and tied it around her neck 645 00:38:38,867 --> 00:38:42,734 from the bunk above her, 646 00:38:42,734 --> 00:38:44,734 and she was on her knees, 647 00:38:47,100 --> 00:38:48,266 and that was her decision, 648 00:38:48,266 --> 00:38:51,066 and all of the other things she did were her decision, 649 00:38:51,100 --> 00:38:54,367 as well, so I feel really 650 00:38:54,367 --> 00:38:55,384 no sadness. 651 00:38:55,384 --> 00:38:57,734 no sadness. 652 00:38:59,166 --> 00:39:00,867 CHRISTINE: I feel like I've been waiting 653 00:39:00,900 --> 00:39:02,867 for that for a long time. 654 00:39:02,900 --> 00:39:05,467 I -- honestly, I'm really relieved, 655 00:39:05,467 --> 00:39:07,867 because there's, you know, 656 00:39:07,900 --> 00:39:11,066 like, no more damage she can do. 657 00:39:12,266 --> 00:39:15,166 I feel like now that she's gone, you know, 658 00:39:15,233 --> 00:39:17,634 we do have closure. 659 00:39:33,066 --> 00:39:37,333 VICTORIA: My dad, John Paul Lisowski, was a great man. 660 00:39:39,100 --> 00:39:42,266 He was incredibly intelligent. 661 00:39:42,266 --> 00:39:45,233 He was funny. He... 662 00:39:49,166 --> 00:39:50,233 is my dad. 663 00:39:53,734 --> 00:39:55,384 He's the one that -- the only person 664 00:39:55,384 --> 00:39:55,634 He's the one that -- the only person 665 00:39:55,734 --> 00:39:58,734 that protected us from my mom 666 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,900 and supported us and... 667 00:40:04,100 --> 00:40:06,066 It's just really hard to go 668 00:40:06,100 --> 00:40:08,734 through life without somebody like that. 669 00:40:20,967 --> 00:40:25,066 The main thing that always kept me going, even 670 00:40:25,066 --> 00:40:25,384 in my deepest depression, was the hope that one day, 671 00:40:25,384 --> 00:40:29,533 in my deepest depression, was the hope that one day, 672 00:40:31,100 --> 00:40:32,433 it could be better. 673 00:40:34,166 --> 00:40:39,500 There's a way out, and nothing is impossible. 674 00:40:39,500 --> 00:40:42,700 You can have a happy life 675 00:40:42,700 --> 00:40:46,166 and the life you've always dreamed of. 676 00:40:47,266 --> 00:40:49,000 I just bought a house on the water, 677 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,367 which has been my dream forever. 678 00:40:52,433 --> 00:40:55,384 I still have regular therapy sessions, uh, once a week, 679 00:40:55,384 --> 00:40:57,100 I still have regular therapy sessions, uh, once a week, 680 00:40:58,700 --> 00:41:01,100 and I feel happy 681 00:41:01,100 --> 00:41:05,233 and loved and safe, and... 682 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,266 I'm really close with my sister. 683 00:41:09,266 --> 00:41:11,600 She's eight months pregnant, and I can't wait 684 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,634 to be an aunt for the first time. 685 00:41:20,266 --> 00:41:22,734 CHRISTINE: I want to be a mom who's, I mean, 686 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,384 really the opposite of the mom that I had. 687 00:41:25,384 --> 00:41:25,533 really the opposite of the mom that I had. 688 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,266 I don't think I will tell my daughter 689 00:41:30,333 --> 00:41:32,634 about her grandmother, 690 00:41:32,734 --> 00:41:34,533 um, until she asks. 691 00:41:34,533 --> 00:41:37,533 I'm not looking forward to that day. 692 00:41:37,533 --> 00:41:41,433 I would love to tell her about her grandfather. 693 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,000 [sniffling] 694 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,734 [crying quietly] 695 00:41:54,700 --> 00:41:55,384 So, yeah, that's... 696 00:41:55,384 --> 00:41:57,066 So, yeah, that's... 697 00:41:57,100 --> 00:41:59,000 more of the conversation that I'm looking 698 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,734 forward to having with her one day.