1 00:00:03,931 --> 00:00:06,172 So this is Grandview Park. 2 00:00:06,275 --> 00:00:08,551 I haven't been here for... 3 00:00:08,655 --> 00:00:10,896 30 years. 4 00:00:12,034 --> 00:00:13,896 This is a beautiful place to be, 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,758 but this place holds no good memories. 6 00:00:17,862 --> 00:00:20,034 Most people don't know what happened. 7 00:00:21,655 --> 00:00:25,931 Tony and I and some friends were here over 30 years ago 8 00:00:26,034 --> 00:00:27,862 having a picnic on the hillside, 9 00:00:27,965 --> 00:00:31,724 and they headed down that hillside into these woods 10 00:00:31,827 --> 00:00:35,448 onto that path -- I stayed behind. 11 00:00:35,551 --> 00:00:38,137 I didn't really want to see 12 00:00:38,241 --> 00:00:40,517 a place where 13 00:00:41,931 --> 00:00:43,000 someone was murdered. 14 00:00:52,931 --> 00:00:57,103 The experience of being with Tony Fiebiger -- 15 00:00:57,206 --> 00:01:01,862 it is like a permanent tattoo without the ink. 16 00:01:03,931 --> 00:01:08,034 That name, I will forever remember for very bad reasons. 17 00:01:09,172 --> 00:01:12,000 Who walks around and thinks, possibly my 18 00:01:12,103 --> 00:01:14,275 husband is a serial killer and my boyfriend -- 19 00:01:14,379 --> 00:01:18,655 you don't -- that's not even in the realm of rational thinking. 20 00:01:21,137 --> 00:01:24,965 It's just such a sickening... wow. 21 00:01:26,517 --> 00:01:28,206 And then I feel like, okay, how many of 22 00:01:28,310 --> 00:01:31,034 my co-workers and everyone's gonna see this 23 00:01:31,137 --> 00:01:34,448 and say, "Sharon, what were you thinking?" 24 00:01:34,551 --> 00:01:37,482 But I'm telling you, I'm telling you, 25 00:01:37,586 --> 00:01:40,517 it can happen to anyone. 26 00:01:40,620 --> 00:01:42,517 It can happen to anyone. 27 00:01:45,517 --> 00:01:47,965 [The Paper Chase's "What's So Amazing About Grace?" plays] 28 00:01:48,068 --> 00:01:51,000 [strings continue playing sinister tune] 29 00:01:51,103 --> 00:01:56,103 [static crackling] 30 00:01:56,206 --> 00:01:57,862 [knock at door] [creaking] 31 00:01:57,965 --> 00:02:03,103 [banging on door] 32 00:02:03,206 --> 00:02:08,344 [creaking] 33 00:02:08,448 --> 00:02:11,000 [water dripping] 34 00:02:11,103 --> 00:02:13,655 [banging on door] [creaking] 35 00:02:13,758 --> 00:02:15,103 [sinister chord strikes] 36 00:02:21,517 --> 00:02:25,000 MORRIS: I was born and raised in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. 37 00:02:25,103 --> 00:02:26,620 I was studying to be a nurse. 38 00:02:26,724 --> 00:02:29,517 I was commuting back and forth from my parents' house 39 00:02:29,620 --> 00:02:32,896 to school -- I wanted my own apartment. 40 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,241 I found an apartment. 41 00:02:35,344 --> 00:02:39,000 The bottom apartment was empty for a while, 42 00:02:39,103 --> 00:02:41,448 maybe 2, 3 months. 43 00:02:41,551 --> 00:02:45,172 And then Anthony Fiebiger moved in. 44 00:02:46,931 --> 00:02:49,103 Coming home from school, coming home from work, 45 00:02:49,206 --> 00:02:53,068 he would be outside, setting up a grill, 46 00:02:53,172 --> 00:02:55,344 and he would say hello. 47 00:02:55,448 --> 00:02:58,413 I would say hello, and we just started talking. 48 00:02:58,517 --> 00:03:00,275 That's how we got to know each other. 49 00:03:00,379 --> 00:03:04,137 -You want a beer? -Yeah. 50 00:03:04,241 --> 00:03:05,344 Why not? 51 00:03:05,448 --> 00:03:07,103 He wasn't very attractive. 52 00:03:07,206 --> 00:03:09,000 He was overweight. 53 00:03:09,103 --> 00:03:14,931 He was bald, but he was charming and sweet. 54 00:03:15,034 --> 00:03:19,241 After talking to him over and over and over, 55 00:03:19,344 --> 00:03:22,551 he seemed to become funnier to me, 56 00:03:22,655 --> 00:03:25,931 become more relaxed, having casual conversation. 57 00:03:26,034 --> 00:03:31,206 And before I knew it, we were hanging out more and more. 58 00:03:31,310 --> 00:03:34,448 Tony and I dated for a while, 59 00:03:34,551 --> 00:03:38,206 several months -- next thing you know, we were living together. 60 00:03:39,517 --> 00:03:44,206 I hadn't really dated anyone seriously prior 61 00:03:44,310 --> 00:03:48,620 to this, just minor high school boyfriends. 62 00:03:48,724 --> 00:03:52,206 So he secured my trust pretty quickly. 63 00:03:53,724 --> 00:03:57,862 He was waiting for me every day after work, after school. 64 00:03:57,965 --> 00:04:00,275 He would always hold my hand. 65 00:04:00,379 --> 00:04:02,275 He would always open doors. 66 00:04:02,379 --> 00:04:06,689 So, in the beginning, he appeared to be 67 00:04:06,793 --> 00:04:08,862 the perfect boyfriend. 68 00:04:08,965 --> 00:04:13,862 ♪♪ 69 00:04:13,965 --> 00:04:23,655 ♪♪ 70 00:04:23,758 --> 00:04:26,655 Maybe the fourth or fifth time that we spoke, 71 00:04:26,758 --> 00:04:29,827 sitting outside eating dinner, 72 00:04:29,931 --> 00:04:34,551 I had asked him why he had moved all the way out here. 73 00:04:34,655 --> 00:04:37,551 You never told me why you ended up moving out here. 74 00:04:37,655 --> 00:04:39,206 It's kind of a sore subject. 75 00:04:40,310 --> 00:04:43,965 And he had said that he had to give up his prior apartment, 76 00:04:44,068 --> 00:04:48,689 because he lived there with his former girlfriend, Norma, 77 00:04:48,793 --> 00:04:51,896 and that she had suddenly disappeared. 78 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,241 What happened? 79 00:04:53,344 --> 00:04:56,275 MORRIS: He said, just very matter of fact, 80 00:04:56,379 --> 00:04:57,896 calmly said, "Oh, 81 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,379 "she -- she was in the drug scene. 82 00:05:00,482 --> 00:05:04,655 "All her friends were drinkers, using drugs. 83 00:05:04,758 --> 00:05:07,482 "She would come and go all hours of the day and night. 84 00:05:07,586 --> 00:05:09,379 "And I guess just one day, she just 85 00:05:09,482 --> 00:05:12,103 "decided she didn't want to be with me anymore. 86 00:05:12,206 --> 00:05:16,793 So she just left with her friends and never came back." 87 00:05:16,896 --> 00:05:20,137 And he also made a point of mentioning, "Oh, 88 00:05:20,241 --> 00:05:23,275 "and she left her purse, her wallet, her keys. 89 00:05:23,379 --> 00:05:25,000 "Everything was just left. 90 00:05:25,103 --> 00:05:27,448 She just literally never came back." 91 00:05:27,551 --> 00:05:30,344 I mean, she just finished. 92 00:05:30,448 --> 00:05:32,931 That's so crazy. 93 00:05:33,034 --> 00:05:35,551 MORRIS: I questioned it initially -- who leaves their 94 00:05:35,655 --> 00:05:39,620 purse and their personal things as a woman? 95 00:05:39,724 --> 00:05:41,034 He attributed it to, 96 00:05:41,137 --> 00:05:45,068 that's what people do when you just hang out 97 00:05:45,172 --> 00:05:47,724 with people that do drugs and drink alcohol. 98 00:05:47,827 --> 00:05:49,413 You just get tired of it 99 00:05:49,517 --> 00:05:51,724 or you find someone else to move on with, 100 00:05:51,827 --> 00:05:53,137 and you just leave. 101 00:05:53,241 --> 00:05:54,862 Did the cops get involved or anything? 102 00:05:54,965 --> 00:05:56,241 Oh, yeah. 103 00:05:56,344 --> 00:06:00,448 He also went on a little further to say, 104 00:06:00,551 --> 00:06:02,793 "Oh, I had nothing to do with it, 105 00:06:02,896 --> 00:06:05,517 "because the police did question me. 106 00:06:05,620 --> 00:06:07,758 "The police did come over. 107 00:06:07,862 --> 00:06:10,965 The police even gave me a lie detector test." 108 00:06:11,068 --> 00:06:13,068 It was a nightmare. 109 00:06:13,172 --> 00:06:14,896 MORRIS: "But I passed it." 110 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,172 He said, "I had nothing to do with her disappearance." 111 00:06:18,275 --> 00:06:21,172 Looking back, that's absolutely a red flag. 112 00:06:21,275 --> 00:06:22,793 Wow, what a big flag. 113 00:06:24,482 --> 00:06:30,000 But at the time, being young, I was relatively sheltered. 114 00:06:30,103 --> 00:06:33,448 I've never dealt with having anyone disappear 115 00:06:33,551 --> 00:06:36,965 out of my life, so I just believed him. 116 00:06:37,068 --> 00:06:38,379 It's crazy. 117 00:06:38,482 --> 00:06:42,517 He had a way of just dismissing any questions 118 00:06:42,620 --> 00:06:44,620 that you might have had about 119 00:06:44,724 --> 00:06:47,689 his past or about him just saying, "Oh, 120 00:06:47,793 --> 00:06:50,862 it's nothing. Oh, it's no big deal." 121 00:06:50,965 --> 00:06:54,655 And I think when you're young, you believe that. 122 00:07:02,620 --> 00:07:04,448 This the first time I've 123 00:07:04,551 --> 00:07:07,965 seen what Norma actually looks like. 124 00:07:08,068 --> 00:07:13,586 "Missing woman being sought, Miss Parker is a black female 125 00:07:13,689 --> 00:07:15,793 "with light skin, dark hair, and brown eyes 126 00:07:15,896 --> 00:07:19,379 who stands 5-foot-three and weighs 130 pounds." 127 00:07:21,275 --> 00:07:22,896 So she was quite small. 128 00:07:24,206 --> 00:07:27,068 And certainly no match for Tony. 129 00:07:28,379 --> 00:07:31,379 Didn't deserve what happened to her. 130 00:07:32,482 --> 00:07:36,827 He was able to not only murder someone, 131 00:07:36,931 --> 00:07:40,448 but he did get away with it for quite some time. 132 00:07:40,551 --> 00:07:48,275 ♪♪ 133 00:07:48,379 --> 00:07:51,172 Initially, I didn't think he had 134 00:07:51,275 --> 00:07:54,413 anything to do with her disappearance. 135 00:07:54,517 --> 00:07:58,586 However, certain people would make references 136 00:07:58,689 --> 00:08:02,206 to it when we would go around them, 137 00:08:02,310 --> 00:08:06,000 and they seemed to still have suspicions. 138 00:08:08,206 --> 00:08:11,413 We were out driving one day, and we happened to drive 139 00:08:11,517 --> 00:08:13,344 by his cousin's house, 140 00:08:13,448 --> 00:08:16,103 who lived in that general vicinity. 141 00:08:16,206 --> 00:08:18,275 His cousin was standing outside. 142 00:08:18,379 --> 00:08:22,034 So we pulled up, and Tony 143 00:08:22,137 --> 00:08:25,206 rolled the window down and said, "Hey, how you doing?" 144 00:08:25,310 --> 00:08:26,517 Hey, what's up, cuz? 145 00:08:28,206 --> 00:08:30,172 And the cousin said, 146 00:08:30,275 --> 00:08:33,034 "Don't come around here. Don't speak to me." 147 00:08:33,136 --> 00:08:36,379 Understand me? I want nothing to do with you. 148 00:08:36,482 --> 00:08:39,344 "These people have been coming here every day asking me 149 00:08:39,448 --> 00:08:41,275 "questions about that drum. 150 00:08:41,379 --> 00:08:44,344 "I don't want you to talk to me, 151 00:08:44,448 --> 00:08:46,206 "come around me, nothing. 152 00:08:46,310 --> 00:08:47,655 "I'm sick of these people 153 00:08:47,758 --> 00:08:51,068 comin' to my house asking me questions." 154 00:08:51,172 --> 00:08:55,965 Tony was telling him like, "Hey, settle down." 155 00:08:56,068 --> 00:08:58,517 He said, you know, "It's not what you think. 156 00:08:58,620 --> 00:08:59,517 "It'll be all right. 157 00:08:59,620 --> 00:09:02,000 It's okay. There's nothing going on." 158 00:09:02,103 --> 00:09:06,517 But the cousin was so angry and so aggressive. 159 00:09:06,620 --> 00:09:09,206 He goes, "I don't know what you did, but I've had it. 160 00:09:09,310 --> 00:09:12,310 I'm done with you," and walked away. 161 00:09:12,413 --> 00:09:14,206 Get away from this one. You're better off. 162 00:09:18,965 --> 00:09:21,344 I was completely shocked. 163 00:09:21,448 --> 00:09:23,689 I didn't know what this was about. 164 00:09:23,793 --> 00:09:26,000 What the hell was that? 165 00:09:26,103 --> 00:09:30,655 And he said, "Oh, that's just him being angry 166 00:09:30,758 --> 00:09:35,068 because I didn't pay him enough to help me move." 167 00:09:35,172 --> 00:09:37,482 What container was he talking about? 168 00:09:37,586 --> 00:09:41,137 MORRIS: And he said that his cousin had helped him move 169 00:09:41,241 --> 00:09:42,931 items out of his basement, 170 00:09:43,034 --> 00:09:47,862 including a giant, like, 55-gallon metal drum. 171 00:09:49,068 --> 00:09:51,896 And I thought, 172 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:56,103 "Why would someone have a drum in their house to begin with?" 173 00:09:56,206 --> 00:09:58,896 That's an industrial thing. 174 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:00,137 Well, what was in it? 175 00:10:01,275 --> 00:10:02,689 Nothing. 176 00:10:02,793 --> 00:10:06,793 I just assumed that the landlord had maybe stored 177 00:10:06,896 --> 00:10:09,689 things in the basement that really weren't Tony's 178 00:10:09,793 --> 00:10:11,551 possessions at all. 179 00:10:11,655 --> 00:10:14,586 And when Tony moved, he just decided 180 00:10:14,689 --> 00:10:16,413 to clear everything out. 181 00:10:16,517 --> 00:10:19,620 -Sorry about that. -It's okay. 182 00:10:19,724 --> 00:10:21,896 MORRIS: We didn't talk about it any further. 183 00:10:25,517 --> 00:10:32,344 ♪♪ 184 00:10:32,448 --> 00:10:36,620 Tony's facial expressions sometimes would change 185 00:10:36,724 --> 00:10:38,206 when we were together. 186 00:10:40,068 --> 00:10:42,931 He'd have these moments where he would 187 00:10:43,034 --> 00:10:46,241 just stare off into space, and to look at him 188 00:10:46,344 --> 00:10:48,241 looked evil. 189 00:10:48,344 --> 00:10:52,000 [suspenseful chord strike] 190 00:10:52,103 --> 00:10:55,344 The stare was blank. There was no smile. 191 00:10:55,448 --> 00:10:56,620 Tony? 192 00:10:58,551 --> 00:11:00,068 Yeah. 193 00:11:00,172 --> 00:11:05,517 Like he was in a constant train of thought of something. 194 00:11:05,620 --> 00:11:08,689 I would say, "What's wrong? What are you thinking about?" 195 00:11:08,793 --> 00:11:10,724 And he would say, "Nothing. Nothing. Never mind." 196 00:11:10,827 --> 00:11:12,620 And just would stare off. 197 00:11:12,724 --> 00:11:14,275 Is everything all right? 198 00:11:17,137 --> 00:11:18,413 Yeah. 199 00:11:20,758 --> 00:11:24,206 MORRIS: No smile, no expression, just a blank stare. 200 00:11:24,310 --> 00:11:27,827 Very serious. And a lot of times, 201 00:11:27,931 --> 00:11:31,103 he wouldn't respond when you would say, "What's wrong? 202 00:11:31,206 --> 00:11:34,482 Something going on?" He would just stare. 203 00:11:34,586 --> 00:11:37,275 Are you sure everything is all right? 204 00:11:37,379 --> 00:11:39,620 I don't know what he was contemplating 205 00:11:39,724 --> 00:11:41,172 during those quiet moments. 206 00:11:41,275 --> 00:11:46,068 But looking back, I wonder if those moments where he was 207 00:11:46,172 --> 00:11:50,241 trying to control, possibly, the urges 208 00:11:50,344 --> 00:11:52,620 that he had to kill someone. 209 00:11:57,620 --> 00:12:01,586 In his confession, Fiebiger 210 00:12:01,689 --> 00:12:05,275 told detectives that he had fantasized almost all his life 211 00:12:05,379 --> 00:12:08,551 about killing people, specifically children. 212 00:12:10,172 --> 00:12:11,827 He said he has more fantasies 213 00:12:11,931 --> 00:12:14,965 about killing than he does about sex. 214 00:12:16,586 --> 00:12:18,448 The first person he seriously thought 215 00:12:18,551 --> 00:12:20,586 about killing was a girl named Maggie. 216 00:12:20,689 --> 00:12:23,620 He was 17 at the time and liked her, but she didn't 217 00:12:23,724 --> 00:12:25,034 like him. 218 00:12:25,137 --> 00:12:29,137 Fiebiger also told police that when he was 18 or 19, 219 00:12:29,241 --> 00:12:31,172 he had picked up a female hitchhiker, 220 00:12:31,275 --> 00:12:34,931 raped her, and dumped her by the side of the road. 221 00:12:35,034 --> 00:12:37,551 That crime apparently was not reported. 222 00:12:39,137 --> 00:12:41,000 This is the first time that... 223 00:12:43,137 --> 00:12:46,586 I'm reading that he had fantasies about 224 00:12:46,689 --> 00:12:48,827 killing children. 225 00:12:48,931 --> 00:12:53,275 See, this? I have never read that 226 00:12:53,379 --> 00:12:56,758 or knew that or -- that is so... 227 00:12:56,862 --> 00:13:00,103 Oh, my goodness. I... 228 00:13:00,206 --> 00:13:01,586 can't believe it. 229 00:13:04,586 --> 00:13:07,379 Looking back now, those times that he would 230 00:13:07,482 --> 00:13:11,655 be quiet and not speak to me and stare off... 231 00:13:13,103 --> 00:13:16,724 I believe he was probably fighting urges to kill me. 232 00:13:19,275 --> 00:13:21,793 I don't know exactly 233 00:13:21,896 --> 00:13:27,034 what it was that prevented him from acting on those urges 234 00:13:27,137 --> 00:13:29,931 to hurt me, and I would just 235 00:13:30,034 --> 00:13:32,448 wonder what he would say to that. 236 00:13:32,551 --> 00:13:34,758 Did you have those urges to kill when 237 00:13:34,862 --> 00:13:37,103 you were with me, and what stopped you? 238 00:13:37,206 --> 00:13:39,551 What was it about me? 239 00:13:40,827 --> 00:13:43,137 Was it my kindness towards him? 240 00:13:43,241 --> 00:13:46,137 Was it my ability to 241 00:13:46,241 --> 00:13:50,000 make him feel good rather than inferior? 242 00:13:50,103 --> 00:13:52,931 Was it my willingness to let him 243 00:13:53,034 --> 00:13:55,034 take control of where we were going? 244 00:13:55,137 --> 00:13:57,517 What we were going to do? 245 00:13:57,620 --> 00:14:02,000 I am so grateful that I got away when I did. 246 00:14:02,103 --> 00:14:07,724 ♪♪ 247 00:14:07,827 --> 00:14:13,344 ♪♪ 248 00:14:13,448 --> 00:14:18,758 [music climbing] 249 00:14:18,862 --> 00:14:20,620 This park 250 00:14:20,724 --> 00:14:22,344 just has 251 00:14:23,965 --> 00:14:26,586 a bad memory for me. 252 00:14:26,689 --> 00:14:28,965 Most people don't know what happened. 253 00:14:39,586 --> 00:14:43,793 ♪♪ 254 00:14:43,896 --> 00:14:47,275 MORRIS: Tony used to like to be outdoors a lot. 255 00:14:47,379 --> 00:14:48,827 He liked to fish. 256 00:14:48,931 --> 00:14:50,000 He'd like to hike. 257 00:14:50,103 --> 00:14:53,448 He always liked to be in parks, 258 00:14:53,551 --> 00:14:57,241 and he would have some of the most remote 259 00:14:57,344 --> 00:15:01,931 locations with literally no one in sight anywhere. 260 00:15:03,517 --> 00:15:06,620 And I used to say, "How did you find this?" 261 00:15:06,724 --> 00:15:08,620 He would say, "Oh, through friends," 262 00:15:08,724 --> 00:15:13,068 but they were not, like, common locations. 263 00:15:13,172 --> 00:15:16,275 I thought that was pretty neat at first, 264 00:15:16,379 --> 00:15:20,724 but at the same time was kind of creepy in a way, 265 00:15:20,827 --> 00:15:23,896 because no one was ever around. 266 00:15:26,827 --> 00:15:31,000 So one day, Tony decided that we should go meet up 267 00:15:31,103 --> 00:15:33,379 with some of his friends and go have a picnic. 268 00:15:35,275 --> 00:15:39,448 Just sitting there, all of us, he mentioned... 269 00:15:39,551 --> 00:15:42,172 You guys wanna hear something creepy? 270 00:15:42,275 --> 00:15:44,793 -MAN: Yeah. -MORRIS: "Hey, down over there," 271 00:15:44,896 --> 00:15:48,517 and he pointed to a general area over the hillside, 272 00:15:48,620 --> 00:15:52,034 "There's trails, and a girl was found murdered 273 00:15:52,137 --> 00:15:53,551 there years prior." 274 00:15:56,586 --> 00:15:58,275 And I said, "Really?" 275 00:15:58,379 --> 00:16:01,137 And he said, "Yeah, they never solved her murder. 276 00:16:01,241 --> 00:16:03,517 She was just found on the trail, murdered." 277 00:16:03,620 --> 00:16:05,551 Yeah, it was a couple of years ago. 278 00:16:05,655 --> 00:16:10,000 MORRIS: He did not go into details, real calm, 279 00:16:10,103 --> 00:16:12,344 matter of fact, no emotion. 280 00:16:12,448 --> 00:16:15,724 And one of the friends 281 00:16:15,827 --> 00:16:19,931 we were with said, "Oh, yeah, Marcia, I remember." 282 00:16:20,034 --> 00:16:22,793 Yeah, he's right. It was a high school girl. 283 00:16:22,896 --> 00:16:24,551 And they all talked about it like, yeah, 284 00:16:24,655 --> 00:16:26,206 it was an unsolved murder. 285 00:16:26,310 --> 00:16:31,482 Some high school age girl was just murdered on this trail, 286 00:16:31,586 --> 00:16:33,310 and they never found out who did it. 287 00:16:34,931 --> 00:16:38,344 And he said, "Do you want to go take a walk down there?" 288 00:16:38,448 --> 00:16:40,034 You guys wanna go check it out? 289 00:16:40,137 --> 00:16:44,758 And I said, "No, that's really strange and creepy. No." 290 00:16:45,793 --> 00:16:47,275 Come on, guys, that's sick. 291 00:16:49,689 --> 00:16:53,620 I just found it, like, shocking and sad. 292 00:16:53,724 --> 00:16:56,862 And why would you bring that up at our picnic? 293 00:16:56,965 --> 00:16:59,896 But it just seemed as if everybody was 294 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,551 ready to stand up and go for a walk. 295 00:17:02,655 --> 00:17:04,205 So I stayed behind. 296 00:17:04,310 --> 00:17:07,034 But him and several of our friends, 297 00:17:07,137 --> 00:17:10,137 they took the hike or walk down, and I stayed back. 298 00:17:14,275 --> 00:17:16,517 When he came back, we just packed our things 299 00:17:16,619 --> 00:17:18,689 and went on with the day. 300 00:17:18,792 --> 00:17:20,205 He never brought up 301 00:17:21,689 --> 00:17:25,000 Marcia's murder ever again. 302 00:17:25,103 --> 00:17:28,931 It never occurred to me or dawned on me at the time. 303 00:17:29,034 --> 00:17:32,517 How would he know where exactly she was found? 304 00:17:35,758 --> 00:17:37,896 So this is Grandview Park. 305 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:42,103 I haven't been here for 30 years. 306 00:17:43,586 --> 00:17:47,586 Up here was where we had the picnic, 307 00:17:47,689 --> 00:17:49,655 looking over the hillside, 308 00:17:49,758 --> 00:17:53,482 and they headed down that hillside, 309 00:17:54,862 --> 00:17:57,689 into these woods, onto that path. 310 00:17:59,758 --> 00:18:02,068 At that time, 311 00:18:02,172 --> 00:18:04,931 I thought it was just a casual walk. 312 00:18:05,034 --> 00:18:07,586 I had no idea 313 00:18:07,689 --> 00:18:10,241 that he was, in fact, the one that murdered the young girl. 314 00:18:12,241 --> 00:18:14,172 This park is a peaceful place, 315 00:18:14,275 --> 00:18:17,827 unfortunately marred by Marcia's murder. 316 00:18:19,551 --> 00:18:23,379 But I hope that her spirit is free and her family 317 00:18:23,482 --> 00:18:24,517 finds comfort, 318 00:18:24,620 --> 00:18:28,000 knowing that justice has been served. 319 00:18:29,724 --> 00:18:33,655 I'm at peace now, being here again 30 years later, 320 00:18:37,068 --> 00:18:38,517 and hope that she is, too. 321 00:18:38,620 --> 00:18:45,413 ♪♪ 322 00:18:45,517 --> 00:18:51,793 ♪♪ 323 00:18:51,896 --> 00:18:53,482 Throughout our course of dating, 324 00:18:53,586 --> 00:18:58,172 Tony decided to introduce me to his mother, Marlene. 325 00:18:58,275 --> 00:19:02,241 She was very gracious, kind. 326 00:19:02,344 --> 00:19:04,862 She seemed to very much like me. 327 00:19:04,965 --> 00:19:07,965 I grew very fond of her. I would go over -- 328 00:19:08,068 --> 00:19:11,793 she was always baking cookies, and I would sit at 329 00:19:11,896 --> 00:19:15,344 her table, when we would talk, and she would tell me 330 00:19:15,448 --> 00:19:17,551 different little things about Tony. 331 00:19:20,586 --> 00:19:22,448 One day, I went over to Marlene's house 332 00:19:22,551 --> 00:19:26,103 to spend some time with her. Tony was working. 333 00:19:27,413 --> 00:19:29,275 And she had asked me what we had 334 00:19:29,379 --> 00:19:32,206 done the prior day or the prior weekend, 335 00:19:32,310 --> 00:19:33,586 and I mentioned to her that 336 00:19:33,689 --> 00:19:36,413 Tony had taken me to Grandview Park. 337 00:19:36,517 --> 00:19:40,034 It was a great time until Tony scared the hell out of me 338 00:19:40,137 --> 00:19:42,689 with some story about a murdered girl out in the woods. 339 00:19:44,827 --> 00:19:47,655 MORRIS: And she said to me, "Oh, yes. 340 00:19:47,758 --> 00:19:50,620 you know, Sharon, the day the murder 341 00:19:50,724 --> 00:19:54,068 allegedly happened, the night before, 342 00:19:54,172 --> 00:19:57,000 she said that Tony was in her house 343 00:19:57,103 --> 00:19:59,655 in the middle of the night. 344 00:19:59,758 --> 00:20:02,206 He was acting anxious. 345 00:20:02,310 --> 00:20:06,344 MORRIS: He was in a very hurried, rushed state. 346 00:20:06,448 --> 00:20:10,137 Very excited, very agitated. 347 00:20:10,241 --> 00:20:12,137 He scared me, truly. 348 00:20:12,241 --> 00:20:16,724 And she told him to get out of the house, and he did. 349 00:20:16,827 --> 00:20:20,689 But then she later discovered one of her knives was missing. 350 00:20:22,793 --> 00:20:25,758 And at that point, she just said to me, 351 00:20:25,862 --> 00:20:29,241 "I don't know, Sharon, but I never forgot it. 352 00:20:29,344 --> 00:20:31,655 "I don't know why he would have taken that, 353 00:20:31,758 --> 00:20:36,034 but he was the only one that could have taken that knife." 354 00:20:36,137 --> 00:20:39,000 What are you trying to say? 355 00:20:39,103 --> 00:20:41,172 When she said that to me, 356 00:20:41,275 --> 00:20:45,758 I was shocked that she would think that of her own son. 357 00:20:47,413 --> 00:20:50,413 I did not believe Tony had anything to do with that. 358 00:20:50,517 --> 00:20:53,137 I was just trying to calm and reassure her 359 00:20:53,241 --> 00:20:57,517 that I'm sure he had nothing to do with it. 360 00:20:57,620 --> 00:21:01,689 That was just my instinct was just to 361 00:21:01,793 --> 00:21:05,103 try to calm her and make her feel better. 362 00:21:05,206 --> 00:21:10,068 She did ask me not to say anything to Tony. 363 00:21:10,172 --> 00:21:12,413 She told me things in confidence 364 00:21:12,517 --> 00:21:15,275 and asked me to keep them to myself. 365 00:21:15,379 --> 00:21:20,206 And I honored her wishes and did not ask Tony questions. 366 00:21:20,310 --> 00:21:24,241 It just didn't occur to me in my life 367 00:21:24,344 --> 00:21:26,310 that I actually knew someone 368 00:21:26,413 --> 00:21:30,586 or could know someone that was capable of murder. 369 00:21:36,275 --> 00:21:38,413 Anthony Fiebiger and Joseph Morton 370 00:21:38,517 --> 00:21:41,310 were looking for a woman to rape on a rainy night 371 00:21:41,413 --> 00:21:43,275 16 years ago, 372 00:21:43,379 --> 00:21:46,344 and young Marcia Jones was an easy victim. 373 00:21:47,655 --> 00:21:49,758 Both men tried to rape her 374 00:21:49,862 --> 00:21:53,137 and then took turns beating and kicking her. 375 00:21:53,241 --> 00:21:56,655 Fiebiger wanted to make sure she was dead. 376 00:21:56,758 --> 00:21:59,344 After propping her body up against a tree, 377 00:21:59,448 --> 00:22:01,827 he and Morton walked a short distance to 378 00:22:01,931 --> 00:22:02,862 Fiebiger's home. 379 00:22:02,965 --> 00:22:04,551 They found a long steak knife from 380 00:22:04,655 --> 00:22:07,827 a kitchen drawer and walked back to the woods. 381 00:22:07,931 --> 00:22:11,586 They used it repeatedly, stabbing Jones in the face 382 00:22:11,689 --> 00:22:13,103 and neck. 383 00:22:13,206 --> 00:22:16,034 They then hid her body under some leaves and weeds. 384 00:22:16,137 --> 00:22:22,793 ♪♪ 385 00:22:22,896 --> 00:22:28,379 This is the first time I seen Marcia Jones. Wow. 386 00:22:30,586 --> 00:22:35,448 Just an innocent, carefree high school student. 387 00:22:35,551 --> 00:22:37,896 He truly was a sociopath. 388 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,241 I just can't -- just can't believe it, that's all. 389 00:22:41,344 --> 00:22:46,551 I'm just -- can't believe I was with somebody like this. 390 00:22:46,655 --> 00:22:50,344 I didn't have a clue. Just did not have a clue. 391 00:22:54,482 --> 00:22:56,344 [suspenseful music] 392 00:22:56,448 --> 00:23:01,000 ♪♪ 393 00:23:01,103 --> 00:23:03,103 I'm waiting and waiting and waiting, 394 00:23:03,206 --> 00:23:04,241 and next thing I know, 395 00:23:04,344 --> 00:23:06,793 [suspenseful music] 396 00:23:06,896 --> 00:23:11,000 I see Tony coming out of the mall with 397 00:23:11,103 --> 00:23:14,206 the police officers, handcuffed, 398 00:23:14,310 --> 00:23:15,896 getting into the back of the police car. 399 00:23:30,896 --> 00:23:33,379 Before we moved in together, 400 00:23:33,482 --> 00:23:38,103 I had no idea that Tony had any 401 00:23:38,206 --> 00:23:42,000 interest or knew anything of the martial arts. 402 00:23:43,310 --> 00:23:46,275 And he would just say, "Okay, I'm going to practice now. 403 00:23:46,379 --> 00:23:47,586 You don't mind, I hope?" 404 00:23:47,689 --> 00:23:50,241 You mind if I do some training while you're reading? 405 00:23:50,344 --> 00:23:52,000 Training? 406 00:23:52,103 --> 00:23:53,344 And I said, "Oh, no, go ahead." 407 00:23:53,448 --> 00:23:55,344 I would read a book or watch TV, 408 00:23:55,448 --> 00:23:57,551 and he would stand off to the side and just 409 00:23:57,655 --> 00:23:58,896 start practicing, 410 00:24:00,275 --> 00:24:02,655 twirling and flipping these nunchucks. 411 00:24:03,931 --> 00:24:06,206 I was surprised at first, because he did 412 00:24:06,310 --> 00:24:09,586 not strike me as the martial arts type. 413 00:24:09,689 --> 00:24:12,482 He was kind of overweight. 414 00:24:12,586 --> 00:24:14,241 He smoked. 415 00:24:14,344 --> 00:24:16,931 I was surprised that he knew 416 00:24:17,034 --> 00:24:18,724 how to use them. 417 00:24:23,551 --> 00:24:26,655 While he would work out with these nunchucks, 418 00:24:26,758 --> 00:24:31,068 he would describe to me how you could kill somebody or hurt 419 00:24:31,172 --> 00:24:33,103 somebody with the nunchucks. 420 00:24:33,206 --> 00:24:36,206 You know, you can kill somebody with a pair of these. 421 00:24:36,310 --> 00:24:38,103 MORRIS: Then he would demonstrate that 422 00:24:38,206 --> 00:24:39,689 you could strangle somebody. 423 00:24:39,793 --> 00:24:43,172 Showed me the exact way in which you have to get 424 00:24:43,275 --> 00:24:45,931 the victim to be able to be successful. 425 00:24:46,034 --> 00:24:49,379 Wrap it around their neck and just squeeze 426 00:24:49,482 --> 00:24:50,655 the life out of them. 427 00:24:50,758 --> 00:24:54,448 MORRIS: I didn't necessarily think that was really true. 428 00:24:54,551 --> 00:24:57,793 It just never crossed my mind that someone 429 00:24:57,896 --> 00:25:01,000 would actually use that to kill somebody with. 430 00:25:03,034 --> 00:25:06,931 I later found out that 431 00:25:07,034 --> 00:25:10,172 he had strangled Norma 432 00:25:10,275 --> 00:25:12,068 with those nunchucks. 433 00:25:14,862 --> 00:25:18,965 Looking back, seeing myself sitting there on the couch, 434 00:25:19,068 --> 00:25:20,034 staring at him, 435 00:25:21,448 --> 00:25:26,344 I would have never believed that if you did 436 00:25:26,448 --> 00:25:30,482 something like that, that you would readily talk about it. 437 00:25:31,931 --> 00:25:34,517 When, in fact, you actually did it. 438 00:25:34,620 --> 00:25:43,275 ♪♪ 439 00:25:43,379 --> 00:25:45,482 ♪♪ 440 00:25:45,586 --> 00:25:47,137 While we were dating, 441 00:25:47,241 --> 00:25:51,310 there were times that Tony would disappear 442 00:25:51,413 --> 00:25:54,379 for two or three days at a time. 443 00:25:56,103 --> 00:25:59,275 He would not even give me a warning. 444 00:25:59,379 --> 00:26:02,482 He would just never come home. 445 00:26:02,586 --> 00:26:05,586 We didn't have phones back then, cellphones, 446 00:26:05,689 --> 00:26:09,482 so the only way I could possibly try to find him 447 00:26:09,586 --> 00:26:12,068 would be to call his job 448 00:26:12,172 --> 00:26:15,103 or call his mom or call his friends. 449 00:26:15,206 --> 00:26:17,034 Have you seen Tony? 450 00:26:17,137 --> 00:26:19,344 MORRIS: I would say, "Hey, was he around? 451 00:26:19,448 --> 00:26:20,517 Did you go anywhere?" 452 00:26:20,620 --> 00:26:23,344 And they would say, "No, he wasn't with us." 453 00:26:23,448 --> 00:26:28,379 So he literally would disappear somewhere. 454 00:26:28,482 --> 00:26:31,275 If you could just let me know if you've seen him, okay? 455 00:26:31,379 --> 00:26:34,482 I never really looked 456 00:26:34,586 --> 00:26:36,655 to see if the nunchucks were missing. 457 00:26:36,758 --> 00:26:39,310 It's just not something that crossed my mind, 458 00:26:39,413 --> 00:26:43,000 um, to look for. 459 00:26:46,103 --> 00:26:48,034 When he got back, he would tell me, 460 00:26:48,137 --> 00:26:51,103 "Oh, I just went fishing for two days up at the lake. 461 00:26:51,206 --> 00:26:52,724 You know, that place I took you?" 462 00:26:52,827 --> 00:26:55,310 -What the hell? -What? 463 00:26:55,413 --> 00:26:57,551 His explanation to me was, 464 00:26:57,655 --> 00:27:00,379 "I just like to get away and be by myself, 465 00:27:00,482 --> 00:27:04,655 go camping, fishing, and those are times I wanna be alone." 466 00:27:04,758 --> 00:27:08,586 He said everybody deserves their own private time. 467 00:27:08,689 --> 00:27:10,862 You had me completely freaked out over here. 468 00:27:11,965 --> 00:27:13,379 Honey, I'm sorry. 469 00:27:13,482 --> 00:27:15,344 MORRIS: Up to that point, 470 00:27:15,448 --> 00:27:18,758 we had spent pretty much every waking hour with each other, 471 00:27:18,862 --> 00:27:22,379 so I felt like, "Okay, maybe this is true. 472 00:27:22,482 --> 00:27:24,310 Maybe people do need some downtime." 473 00:27:24,413 --> 00:27:26,482 So I believed it. 474 00:27:26,586 --> 00:27:28,275 Keep me posted next time? 475 00:27:28,379 --> 00:27:32,103 In retrospect, I don't know really what he was doing. 476 00:27:32,206 --> 00:27:34,517 I absolutely wonder 477 00:27:34,620 --> 00:27:37,172 if he wasn't out hurting someone else. 478 00:27:37,275 --> 00:27:40,931 I don't think I ever will know what he was doing, 479 00:27:41,034 --> 00:27:45,482 and I don't necessarily know if I want to 480 00:27:45,586 --> 00:27:48,206 find out either, knowing what I know now. 481 00:27:51,586 --> 00:27:57,724 ♪♪ 482 00:27:57,827 --> 00:28:00,965 I started getting up every day in the morning, 483 00:28:01,068 --> 00:28:02,862 cooking breakfast for both of us 484 00:28:02,965 --> 00:28:05,793 before we would get ready to go off to work, 485 00:28:05,896 --> 00:28:09,689 and I started noticing sandwich bags laying on 486 00:28:09,793 --> 00:28:11,862 the counter of pills, 487 00:28:11,965 --> 00:28:14,586 different kinds, different shapes. 488 00:28:14,689 --> 00:28:17,172 I would say, "What is this?" 489 00:28:17,275 --> 00:28:20,310 And he would always say, "Oh, they're just downers," 490 00:28:20,413 --> 00:28:22,827 or, "They're just uppers. I just feel tired today," 491 00:28:22,931 --> 00:28:25,137 or, "I just needed to relax last night." 492 00:28:25,241 --> 00:28:27,827 At first, it didn't concern me, 493 00:28:27,931 --> 00:28:31,827 because there wasn't a lot of them, but after, 494 00:28:31,931 --> 00:28:35,413 like, several weeks, it just seems like it became more 495 00:28:35,517 --> 00:28:38,413 and more consistent, and then 496 00:28:38,517 --> 00:28:40,379 he started getting in trouble at work. 497 00:28:40,482 --> 00:28:43,931 He was stealing from stores. 498 00:28:44,034 --> 00:28:49,827 These things that he started to do ended in several arrests. 499 00:28:54,517 --> 00:28:57,655 One day, we had to take a ride to Kmart. 500 00:28:57,758 --> 00:29:01,034 I sat in the car, he went in, 501 00:29:01,137 --> 00:29:04,689 and a period of time passed, and he never came back out. 502 00:29:06,275 --> 00:29:08,482 So I'm waiting and waiting and waiting. 503 00:29:08,586 --> 00:29:12,448 And next thing I know, I look over, and I see 504 00:29:12,551 --> 00:29:14,448 Tony coming out of the mall 505 00:29:14,551 --> 00:29:17,965 with the police officers, handcuffed. 506 00:29:18,068 --> 00:29:20,655 [suspenseful music] 507 00:29:20,758 --> 00:29:23,793 I was absolutely devastated. 508 00:29:23,896 --> 00:29:26,758 I mean, I was almost to the point of hysterics, because 509 00:29:26,862 --> 00:29:30,034 I have never seen anybody I know in handcuffs before 510 00:29:30,137 --> 00:29:31,758 being arrested. 511 00:29:31,862 --> 00:29:34,448 I didn't know exactly what he had done. 512 00:29:34,551 --> 00:29:36,379 I just jumped over into 513 00:29:36,482 --> 00:29:38,758 the driver's seat and drove myself home. 514 00:29:40,448 --> 00:29:43,620 I wasn't as happy anymore as I used to be. 515 00:29:43,724 --> 00:29:45,379 Do I leave him? Do I stay? 516 00:29:45,482 --> 00:29:48,827 This is starting to get ugly. 517 00:29:48,931 --> 00:29:51,344 So what's next? 518 00:30:01,931 --> 00:30:05,448 ♪♪ 519 00:30:05,551 --> 00:30:07,551 MORRIS: During the course of the relationship, 520 00:30:07,655 --> 00:30:12,034 I started to notice that things started to change. 521 00:30:12,137 --> 00:30:15,448 [phone ringing] 522 00:30:15,551 --> 00:30:17,103 Hello? 523 00:30:17,206 --> 00:30:19,413 MORRIS: The final straw for me was 524 00:30:19,517 --> 00:30:22,137 I realized that the behaviors weren't 525 00:30:22,241 --> 00:30:24,344 getting better, they were getting worse. 526 00:30:25,655 --> 00:30:29,517 He would call me from jail, and I just didn't want to 527 00:30:29,620 --> 00:30:33,517 be with somebody that was in and out of jail so often. 528 00:30:34,965 --> 00:30:38,724 I didn't really have a break-up call, per se. 529 00:30:38,827 --> 00:30:40,931 Why are you yelling at me right now? 530 00:30:42,137 --> 00:30:45,448 He would get mad and hang up. I would get mad and hang up. 531 00:30:45,551 --> 00:30:47,103 Are -- are you done? 532 00:30:47,206 --> 00:30:48,827 MORRIS: It was more or less, 533 00:30:48,931 --> 00:30:51,586 I just don't want to deal with this anymore. 534 00:30:51,689 --> 00:30:53,172 Just stop calling me. 535 00:30:53,275 --> 00:30:56,482 You know what? I'm done. 536 00:30:59,827 --> 00:31:02,137 And then... 537 00:31:02,241 --> 00:31:03,655 I made plans to move. 538 00:31:04,965 --> 00:31:06,379 Didn't want him to get out of jail 539 00:31:06,482 --> 00:31:09,758 and try to come back and find me. 540 00:31:11,517 --> 00:31:12,724 Instinctively, 541 00:31:12,827 --> 00:31:16,448 I said I must get out of this situation while I have 542 00:31:16,551 --> 00:31:19,068 the opportunity to do so safely. 543 00:31:19,172 --> 00:31:22,862 By the time he would get out of jail, 544 00:31:22,965 --> 00:31:24,344 I could already be gone. 545 00:31:24,448 --> 00:31:29,103 I ended up just packing all my things and... 546 00:31:30,517 --> 00:31:31,620 moving away. 547 00:31:37,103 --> 00:31:43,000 ♪♪ 548 00:31:43,103 --> 00:31:44,965 After I moved out of the apartment, 549 00:31:45,068 --> 00:31:47,793 a couple months later, I met someone else, 550 00:31:47,896 --> 00:31:51,965 and Greg and I were together for a while. 551 00:31:52,068 --> 00:31:54,344 He wanted me to live with him in his apartment, 552 00:31:54,448 --> 00:31:58,793 so I moved out of my mom's house and moved in with Greg. 553 00:31:58,896 --> 00:32:02,482 I became pregnant 554 00:32:02,586 --> 00:32:04,620 with my oldest daughter, 555 00:32:04,724 --> 00:32:10,482 so I pretty much was living a new life. 556 00:32:10,586 --> 00:32:15,206 After Tony and I broke up, I did not hear from him. 557 00:32:15,310 --> 00:32:19,034 He remained in jail for quite some time. 558 00:32:23,896 --> 00:32:29,344 ♪♪ 559 00:32:29,448 --> 00:32:31,206 One day, for something to do, 560 00:32:31,310 --> 00:32:35,724 Greg asked if I was interested in going to a monster truck 561 00:32:35,827 --> 00:32:39,551 show in Pittsburgh, and I had never been to one of those, 562 00:32:39,655 --> 00:32:41,448 and I said, "Okay." 563 00:32:41,551 --> 00:32:43,724 -Yeah! -Whoo! 564 00:32:43,827 --> 00:32:45,793 We were sitting there, and I decided to 565 00:32:45,896 --> 00:32:47,655 get up and just stretch. 566 00:32:49,482 --> 00:32:51,482 And I happened to turn around. 567 00:32:51,586 --> 00:32:52,620 When I looked up... 568 00:32:54,206 --> 00:32:55,965 I saw Tony sitting there. 569 00:32:57,620 --> 00:33:00,655 [suspenseful chord strike] 570 00:33:00,758 --> 00:33:03,482 And he was staring directly at me, 571 00:33:03,586 --> 00:33:06,655 and it's like our eyes met. 572 00:33:08,896 --> 00:33:11,344 It's like time stopped right then and there 573 00:33:11,448 --> 00:33:12,827 when I saw his face. 574 00:33:14,172 --> 00:33:18,517 What I saw when I looked and saw his face, 575 00:33:18,620 --> 00:33:20,448 it was blank. 576 00:33:20,551 --> 00:33:24,551 It was dark. It was evil. 577 00:33:25,827 --> 00:33:26,965 It was absolutely evil. 578 00:33:28,551 --> 00:33:33,482 Looking at me as if, you know, if I could, I would kill you. 579 00:33:33,586 --> 00:33:35,344 Didn't even blink, just stared. 580 00:33:36,862 --> 00:33:40,655 It absolutely spooked me to the core, 581 00:33:40,758 --> 00:33:42,862 and I turned away and sat down. 582 00:33:42,965 --> 00:33:44,724 And then... 583 00:33:44,827 --> 00:33:48,344 I nudged Greg and I said, "Tony is here." 584 00:33:48,448 --> 00:33:51,862 [suspenseful chord strike] 585 00:33:51,965 --> 00:33:53,344 And I never looked back again. 586 00:33:53,448 --> 00:33:55,413 We stayed for 587 00:33:55,517 --> 00:33:58,862 maybe 15 more minutes, and I said I wanted to leave, 588 00:33:58,965 --> 00:34:00,482 so we just simply got up, 589 00:34:00,586 --> 00:34:03,655 and Greg took my hand, and we walked out. 590 00:34:03,758 --> 00:34:04,862 I was pregnant at the time, 591 00:34:04,965 --> 00:34:08,965 so I was even more fearful that he would 592 00:34:09,068 --> 00:34:13,172 want to seek revenge, maybe, or want to harm me in some way. 593 00:34:14,585 --> 00:34:18,585 So I spent the next several months until I had 594 00:34:18,688 --> 00:34:22,862 my daughter just kind of staying in our house. 595 00:34:22,965 --> 00:34:26,241 I didn't wanna be out on the streets anymore, 596 00:34:26,344 --> 00:34:28,068 because I didn't know where he was. 597 00:34:28,172 --> 00:34:36,931 ♪♪ 598 00:34:37,034 --> 00:34:39,516 About a year to maybe two years later, 599 00:34:39,620 --> 00:34:43,275 I was sitting at home with my daughter, 600 00:34:43,379 --> 00:34:46,551 and there was a knock on my door. 601 00:34:46,655 --> 00:34:49,655 There were two gentlemen at the door. 602 00:34:49,757 --> 00:34:52,103 Special Agent Bartol with the FBI. 603 00:34:52,206 --> 00:34:55,241 MORRIS: And they asked if they could speak to me. 604 00:34:55,344 --> 00:34:58,034 I said, "Okay, what is this about?" 605 00:34:58,137 --> 00:34:59,965 And they said, "Do you remember 606 00:35:00,068 --> 00:35:02,758 a gentleman by the name of Anthony Fiebiger?" 607 00:35:02,862 --> 00:35:05,034 Yes. Yes. Please, come in. 608 00:35:05,137 --> 00:35:08,586 And they said, "Recently, we picked up Mr. Fiebiger." 609 00:35:08,689 --> 00:35:11,482 He was on the streets, he was drunk, 610 00:35:11,586 --> 00:35:15,137 and they were picking him up for disorderly conduct. 611 00:35:15,241 --> 00:35:19,379 They took him down to the local 612 00:35:19,482 --> 00:35:20,517 police station. 613 00:35:20,620 --> 00:35:23,586 Once he was in lockup, he started rambling. 614 00:35:23,689 --> 00:35:26,827 And while he was sitting in the jail cell, 615 00:35:26,931 --> 00:35:30,758 he started telling them that 616 00:35:30,862 --> 00:35:32,103 he committed a murder. 617 00:35:41,793 --> 00:35:44,275 [knocking noises] 618 00:35:44,379 --> 00:35:47,137 MORRIS: When the FBI came to my house, 619 00:35:47,241 --> 00:35:52,724 they asked if they could speak to me and told me that Tony had 620 00:35:52,827 --> 00:35:57,517 confessed to killing his last girlfriend prior to me, 621 00:35:57,620 --> 00:35:58,862 and her name was Norma. 622 00:36:01,172 --> 00:36:04,862 And they proceeded to say that allegedly he killed her, 623 00:36:04,965 --> 00:36:07,034 because she woke him up. 624 00:36:07,137 --> 00:36:11,137 He was sleeping, and he got angry and took the nunchucks 625 00:36:11,241 --> 00:36:13,586 and strangled her with them. 626 00:36:13,689 --> 00:36:14,689 Oh, my God. 627 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,068 At which point, he took her body and put it inside of 628 00:36:19,172 --> 00:36:23,137 a drum, went and bought several batteries, 629 00:36:23,241 --> 00:36:28,551 drained them of the battery acid, poured the battery acid 630 00:36:28,655 --> 00:36:30,689 over her, 631 00:36:30,793 --> 00:36:34,206 took the drum in his car, and buried her 632 00:36:34,310 --> 00:36:39,551 and agreed to show them where he buried her. 633 00:36:39,655 --> 00:36:42,448 You're sure that he's the one who...? 634 00:36:42,551 --> 00:36:44,413 He confessed, and he was also able 635 00:36:44,517 --> 00:36:46,275 to lead us to the remains and identify her. 636 00:36:47,379 --> 00:36:51,793 MORRIS: And after that, he decided to tell them 637 00:36:51,896 --> 00:36:53,586 he killed before that, 638 00:36:53,689 --> 00:36:59,068 and then he confessed to killing Marcia. 639 00:37:00,793 --> 00:37:04,103 I was absolutely speechless. 640 00:37:04,206 --> 00:37:07,413 How did I not know 641 00:37:07,517 --> 00:37:10,724 that I was with someone like that? 642 00:37:10,827 --> 00:37:15,724 I had to just sit and absorb everything 643 00:37:15,827 --> 00:37:19,413 that I just heard and say, 644 00:37:19,517 --> 00:37:23,724 how did you not get that? 645 00:37:23,827 --> 00:37:28,724 How did you miss that, when all the signs were there? 646 00:37:28,827 --> 00:37:31,275 But I just didn't see it. 647 00:37:31,379 --> 00:37:32,931 Unfortunately, that's not all. 648 00:37:33,034 --> 00:37:37,310 MORRIS: The FBI agents said one of the reasons they were there 649 00:37:37,413 --> 00:37:41,379 is because they were looking at possibly profiling Tony 650 00:37:41,482 --> 00:37:43,344 as a serial killer. 651 00:37:43,448 --> 00:37:46,275 There's many unsolved murders 652 00:37:46,379 --> 00:37:49,689 that they were possibly 653 00:37:49,793 --> 00:37:53,068 trying to maybe link him to if they could. 654 00:37:53,172 --> 00:37:54,793 How can I help? 655 00:37:54,896 --> 00:37:58,758 Um, we have this book of Missing Persons. 656 00:37:58,862 --> 00:38:01,275 MORRIS: Was there any names that sounded familiar to me? 657 00:38:01,379 --> 00:38:03,827 Was there anybody he ever mentioned? 658 00:38:03,931 --> 00:38:07,827 When the FBI left my house that day, they told me this is 659 00:38:07,931 --> 00:38:09,896 gonna be a capital murder trial, 660 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,413 which means they're seeking the death penalty. 661 00:38:19,137 --> 00:38:20,827 I just sat there... 662 00:38:24,206 --> 00:38:25,620 ...just speechless. 663 00:38:25,724 --> 00:38:29,344 I didn't -- I couldn't even react. 664 00:38:29,448 --> 00:38:31,758 I was disappointed in myself for not 665 00:38:31,862 --> 00:38:35,482 seeing what was right in front of me. 666 00:38:35,586 --> 00:38:40,068 At the same time, I felt relief that I was still alive. 667 00:38:40,172 --> 00:38:43,793 And then, certainly most importantly, 668 00:38:43,896 --> 00:38:48,000 the profound sadness and sorrow I felt 669 00:38:48,103 --> 00:38:51,413 for the people that had to suffer at his hands. 670 00:38:55,965 --> 00:39:02,206 ♪♪ 671 00:39:02,310 --> 00:39:05,758 He was living a few miles from me, 672 00:39:05,862 --> 00:39:10,862 working in a church, a Catholic church, and had 673 00:39:10,965 --> 00:39:13,655 apparently a wife and kids, had gone 674 00:39:13,758 --> 00:39:16,517 on with his life like nothing ever happened, 675 00:39:16,620 --> 00:39:17,931 and they knocked on his door. 676 00:39:18,034 --> 00:39:25,827 ♪♪ 677 00:39:25,931 --> 00:39:30,758 ♪♪ 678 00:39:30,862 --> 00:39:33,620 I was at home and received a phone call from one of 679 00:39:33,724 --> 00:39:35,724 the detectives to tell me that 680 00:39:35,827 --> 00:39:38,241 he was sentenced to death, and I... 681 00:39:39,793 --> 00:39:41,620 didn't really ask any questions. 682 00:39:41,724 --> 00:39:43,896 I didn't care to know where or when. 683 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:50,275 Part of me does not support the death penalty, 684 00:39:50,379 --> 00:39:53,379 but in this situation, where... 685 00:39:54,793 --> 00:40:00,034 he has openly admitted to killing these women, 686 00:40:00,137 --> 00:40:02,344 I do support 687 00:40:02,448 --> 00:40:04,275 the death penalty for him. 688 00:40:06,344 --> 00:40:10,241 He should pay with his life. 689 00:40:10,344 --> 00:40:13,137 And it could never be enough for 690 00:40:13,241 --> 00:40:18,758 several innocent people that had to die. 691 00:40:23,965 --> 00:40:26,827 Anthony Fiebiger, the Brookline sociopath 692 00:40:26,931 --> 00:40:30,620 on death row for two vicious slayings in the 1980s, 693 00:40:30,724 --> 00:40:32,620 wants the state to execute him. 694 00:40:34,931 --> 00:40:37,379 He says he's being tortured in prison by 695 00:40:37,482 --> 00:40:40,206 staying in one cell 23 hours a day. 696 00:40:40,310 --> 00:40:43,275 He doesn't want his life extended another second. 697 00:40:43,379 --> 00:40:45,206 He wants to be executed. 698 00:40:47,206 --> 00:40:51,413 Tony wanting to be executed because 699 00:40:52,827 --> 00:40:58,310 his living conditions are subpar on death row. 700 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,758 If it's that torturous for him, 701 00:41:02,862 --> 00:41:04,758 they should continue to keep him alive, 702 00:41:06,379 --> 00:41:10,482 because there's no amount of torture that can... 703 00:41:10,586 --> 00:41:12,448 match 704 00:41:12,551 --> 00:41:15,448 what he inflicted in his life on innocent people. 705 00:41:15,551 --> 00:41:20,517 ♪♪ 706 00:41:20,620 --> 00:41:27,551 ♪♪ 707 00:41:27,655 --> 00:41:31,827 It is something, to this day, 30 years later, that... 708 00:41:33,689 --> 00:41:35,103 you just never forget. 709 00:41:35,206 --> 00:41:39,413 So it has impacted my life for the rest of my life. 710 00:41:40,758 --> 00:41:42,793 I have not been in contact with him 711 00:41:42,896 --> 00:41:44,689 since he was sentenced to death. 712 00:41:44,793 --> 00:41:49,931 I don't need or want to talk to him, see him. 713 00:41:51,206 --> 00:41:53,586 I can't even imagine what there would be to say. 714 00:41:54,724 --> 00:41:56,655 I don't know that he has ever 715 00:41:56,758 --> 00:41:59,793 been linked to any other unsolved murders. 716 00:42:01,068 --> 00:42:04,241 But it's a very real possibility that there 717 00:42:04,344 --> 00:42:08,034 are other victims out there, and we don't know. 718 00:42:08,137 --> 00:42:10,310 It wouldn't surprise me. 719 00:42:13,551 --> 00:42:15,448 I wonder how I'm sitting here today. 720 00:42:17,379 --> 00:42:20,586 So...that's something I think you live with forever, 721 00:42:20,689 --> 00:42:23,275 because you walked away from 722 00:42:23,379 --> 00:42:26,068 something that somebody else did not. 723 00:42:26,172 --> 00:42:28,931 I'm humble. I'm grateful. 724 00:42:29,034 --> 00:42:32,344 I don't know why, but... 725 00:42:34,448 --> 00:42:37,517 I thank God I am here today to tell this story.