1 00:00:02,367 --> 00:00:04,667 [Sandra] Something like this had never happened before 2 00:00:04,667 --> 00:00:07,000 and had never really happened since. 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,000 I just remember thinking, he was an evil man. 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,767 [women on phone] 5 00:00:12,767 --> 00:00:16,500 This is one of the worst crime scene you could possibly imagine. 6 00:00:16,500 --> 00:00:17,900 [Stephen] All you see is some hair, 7 00:00:17,900 --> 00:00:20,634 and you see this axe just sticking out. 8 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:23,467 He's the devil, 9 00:00:23,467 --> 00:00:24,800 as far as I'm concerned. 10 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,667 He'd be lying not only to himself but to everyone. 11 00:00:27,667 --> 00:00:31,033 This case was a puzzle but a lot of pieces just don't get that puzzle. 12 00:00:31,500 --> 00:00:33,400 [Jim speaking] 13 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,767 [detective speaking] 14 00:00:35,767 --> 00:00:38,400 I knew this guy 100% did it. 15 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,967 [Alicia] In this case though not everyone believes that 16 00:00:41,967 --> 00:00:43,533 the right person has been caught. 17 00:01:12,567 --> 00:01:15,867 [Alicia] Your home is supposed to be a place that's familiar and safe. 18 00:01:15,867 --> 00:01:22,700 And at People Magazine we know that there's really no greater threat or fear 19 00:01:22,700 --> 00:01:28,934 than when evil penetrates the walls of the place that we call home. 20 00:01:33,100 --> 00:01:36,900 In 1982, Brighton, New York is a quiet suburb 21 00:01:36,900 --> 00:01:40,266 of the bustling city of Rochester. 22 00:01:41,767 --> 00:01:43,166 [Gloria] I'm Gloria Winkowski. 23 00:01:43,166 --> 00:01:45,967 My husband and I moved to Brighton 24 00:01:45,967 --> 00:01:49,567 September of 1981, with our two little kids. 25 00:01:49,567 --> 00:01:53,667 Brighton was very quiet. You know, very safe. 26 00:01:53,667 --> 00:01:55,767 And lot of places for the kids. 27 00:01:55,767 --> 00:01:59,000 Lots of young couples starting to move in. 28 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,700 One of those young couples is Jim and Cathy Krauseneck 29 00:02:02,700 --> 00:02:06,900 and their three-year-old daughter, Sara. 30 00:02:06,900 --> 00:02:12,166 James and Cathleen Krauseneck were from Mount Clemens, Michigan. 31 00:02:12,166 --> 00:02:15,467 In the late 1960's, they both went to the same high school. 32 00:02:15,467 --> 00:02:17,734 But they didn't know each other very well. 33 00:02:18,567 --> 00:02:19,767 [Stephen] My name is Stephen Hunt. 34 00:02:19,767 --> 00:02:22,600 I'm and investigator with the Brighton Police Department. 35 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,667 James Krauseneck was from a affluent family. 36 00:02:25,667 --> 00:02:28,333 Cathy was from a blue-collar family. 37 00:02:29,500 --> 00:02:31,867 Jim was a very quiet reserved person. 38 00:02:31,867 --> 00:02:34,166 In high school, he wouldn't say much. 39 00:02:34,166 --> 00:02:37,433 Whereas Cathy was a vibrant outgoing personality. 40 00:02:38,867 --> 00:02:43,834 They ended up becoming close when they went to university in 1970. 41 00:02:44,367 --> 00:02:46,800 Jim was studying economics 42 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:51,000 and Cathleen was studying occupational therapy. 43 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,967 It really ramped up when they went to college in Michigan. 44 00:02:53,967 --> 00:02:55,634 And from there they're inseparable. 45 00:02:56,867 --> 00:02:59,667 [Christine] Kathy and Jim married in 1974. 46 00:02:59,667 --> 00:03:03,266 And they went to Fort Collins, Colorado, 47 00:03:03,266 --> 00:03:08,066 Jim went to Colorado State University to get his doctorate in economics. 48 00:03:09,500 --> 00:03:13,667 And Cathy got a job working in occupational therapy. 49 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,500 Then in 1978, 50 00:03:16,500 --> 00:03:18,734 their daughter Sara was born. 51 00:03:21,767 --> 00:03:24,500 [Alicia] After Jim finishes his Ph.D., 52 00:03:24,500 --> 00:03:26,500 he begins teaching college economics. 53 00:03:26,500 --> 00:03:30,533 But soon after a new opportunity presents itself. 54 00:03:31,767 --> 00:03:33,867 [Stephen] He was approached by Eastman Kodak 55 00:03:33,867 --> 00:03:38,100 for job in up here in Upstate New York at Kodak as an economist. 56 00:03:38,100 --> 00:03:40,500 So, the Krausenecks moved to Rochester 57 00:03:40,500 --> 00:03:44,100 in the fall of 1981. 58 00:03:44,100 --> 00:03:47,567 [Alicia] The family settles in Brighton and Jim's new higher salary 59 00:03:47,567 --> 00:03:52,667 affords Cathy the option to now be a stay-at-home mom. 60 00:03:52,667 --> 00:03:58,400 But this major life move doesn't come without it's struggles. 61 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:03,200 [Christine] Jim really liked his job but it was a really high pressure job. 62 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,867 He was going to work like, 6:30 in the morning 63 00:04:05,867 --> 00:04:08,900 and then coming home sometimes late at night. 64 00:04:08,900 --> 00:04:12,734 Cathy wasn't overly happy living in Brighton. 65 00:04:13,367 --> 00:04:14,700 She felt really isolated. 66 00:04:14,700 --> 00:04:16,000 You know, Jim had the car. 67 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,367 He would take the car everyday to work. 68 00:04:18,367 --> 00:04:20,333 And so he was stuck at home. 69 00:04:21,166 --> 00:04:23,634 But soon, Cathy makes a new friend. 70 00:04:24,767 --> 00:04:28,100 I met Cathy in September of 1981 71 00:04:28,100 --> 00:04:30,333 at the preschool where our children attended. 72 00:04:31,300 --> 00:04:34,734 Cathy and Gloria realized they have a lot in common. 73 00:04:35,700 --> 00:04:37,100 [Gloria] She was just like me. 74 00:04:37,100 --> 00:04:39,600 We moved to Brighton around the same time. 75 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:40,900 And we were of the same age. 76 00:04:40,900 --> 00:04:42,667 Twenty-nine exactly. 77 00:04:42,667 --> 00:04:45,166 Our children were also of the same age. 78 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,800 And we found out both our mothers were Polish. 79 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,467 And we started making cookies together 80 00:04:50,467 --> 00:04:52,567 because you know, the Polish people love to 81 00:04:52,567 --> 00:04:55,266 bake and make pierogies and all those wonderful things. 82 00:04:56,567 --> 00:04:59,066 Cathy and I spoke to each other everyday. 83 00:04:59,066 --> 00:05:01,166 She'd either call me or I'd call her. 84 00:05:01,166 --> 00:05:03,834 And if I didn't call her she'd call me to find out why I didn't call her. 85 00:05:06,367 --> 00:05:09,567 [Alicia] The week of February 15th, 1982, 86 00:05:09,567 --> 00:05:12,734 the kids are out of school for winter break. 87 00:05:13,467 --> 00:05:15,667 [Gloria] Thursday morning we talked 88 00:05:15,667 --> 00:05:18,066 and Cathy goes, "I got a favor to ask you. 89 00:05:18,066 --> 00:05:20,667 I've got a doctor's appointment for Sara tomorrow. 90 00:05:20,667 --> 00:05:23,266 If Jim doesn't leave me the car, 91 00:05:23,266 --> 00:05:26,567 will you pick me up and take me and Sara to doctor's?" 92 00:05:26,567 --> 00:05:28,867 I said, "Of course. Absolutely." 93 00:05:28,867 --> 00:05:31,867 She goes, "I'll call you in the morning and let you "know. 94 00:05:33,100 --> 00:05:38,634 The next day arrives and there's no word from Cathy. 95 00:05:40,066 --> 00:05:43,967 I must have called at least... ten times. 96 00:05:45,567 --> 00:05:47,266 It rang and rang and rang. 97 00:05:47,266 --> 00:05:49,767 [telephone ringing] 98 00:05:49,767 --> 00:05:52,800 And I actually had this awful feeling come over me. 99 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,967 It was like, oh my God, something must've happened there. 100 00:05:57,367 --> 00:06:00,367 [Christine] Then around five o'clock in the afternoon, 101 00:06:00,367 --> 00:06:05,533 the Brighton Police department gets a 911 call from a neighbor across the street. 102 00:06:06,166 --> 00:06:07,266 [women on phone] 103 00:06:20,100 --> 00:06:22,367 [Christine] Jim and Sara stays with the neighbor 104 00:06:22,367 --> 00:06:25,233 and then a few minutes later the police arrive. 105 00:06:26,100 --> 00:06:28,467 [Richard] The officers approached the house 106 00:06:28,467 --> 00:06:32,433 and saw that there was broken glass in the door. 107 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,433 It appeared to be forced entry to the house. 108 00:06:36,767 --> 00:06:41,100 The officers entered the house then went upstairs 109 00:06:41,100 --> 00:06:42,734 and went into the master bedroom 110 00:06:43,500 --> 00:06:47,066 and in the bed is... Cathy. 111 00:06:47,066 --> 00:06:51,266 All you see is some hair and you see this axe just sticking out. 112 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,300 Once the officers secure the house, 113 00:06:59,300 --> 00:07:05,767 they report the gruesome scene to their superiors. 114 00:07:05,767 --> 00:07:09,000 [Richard] When I got there around 7:00 pm that evening, 115 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:13,300 the crime scene technicians were in the premises starting the process. 116 00:07:13,300 --> 00:07:17,166 Upon inspection of the master bedroom, where the body was found, 117 00:07:17,166 --> 00:07:19,533 did not appear to be any sign of a struggle. 118 00:07:20,367 --> 00:07:21,767 My name is Patrick Gallagher. 119 00:07:21,767 --> 00:07:25,967 I'm an assistant district attorney at the Monroe County, DA's office. 120 00:07:25,967 --> 00:07:28,467 She was in bed, was covered with blankets. 121 00:07:28,467 --> 00:07:31,100 Does not appear she'd been disturbed in any way. 122 00:07:31,100 --> 00:07:34,367 She was clothed with a night gown and underwear. 123 00:07:34,367 --> 00:07:38,467 Her underwear were still on. There were no signs of sexual assault. 124 00:07:38,467 --> 00:07:40,300 According to the medical examiner at the scene, 125 00:07:40,300 --> 00:07:44,467 the time of death was between 4:30 am and 7:30 am. 126 00:07:46,567 --> 00:07:51,266 All the evidence indicated that she was sound asleep when she was murdered. 127 00:07:51,266 --> 00:07:56,467 And it appeared that she was struck with one swift blow from behind 128 00:07:57,467 --> 00:07:59,767 burying the axe into her skull 129 00:07:59,767 --> 00:08:02,367 causing immediate instantaneous death. 130 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,533 Detective Corrigan proceeds to investigate the rest of the house. 131 00:08:11,700 --> 00:08:14,367 [Richard] Upon reviewing the entry door to the house, 132 00:08:14,367 --> 00:08:17,367 it appeared that someone had taken another axe 133 00:08:17,367 --> 00:08:19,867 which was a wood splitting maul 134 00:08:19,867 --> 00:08:24,266 and had punched out this small six by eight size pane of glass 135 00:08:24,266 --> 00:08:28,066 and then set it down against the wall to the right of the door 136 00:08:28,066 --> 00:08:30,066 and that appeared to be the point where 137 00:08:30,066 --> 00:08:32,133 someone had forced entry to the house. 138 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:37,567 On the inside of the house, there was property laid out 139 00:08:37,567 --> 00:08:39,800 in the dining room, the property being 140 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:43,600 a silver service set, household artifacts. 141 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:47,533 And they appeared it like, they're gonna be placed into a plastic garbage bag. 142 00:08:48,367 --> 00:08:49,767 [Stephen] Inside the black garbage bag, 143 00:08:49,767 --> 00:08:54,233 they found a latent shoe print with a unusual siped pattern. 144 00:08:55,767 --> 00:08:58,867 We assumed that the killer left that shoe print. 145 00:09:00,166 --> 00:09:02,867 Also Cathy's purse was on the floor 146 00:09:02,867 --> 00:09:04,934 and the contents were dumped out. 147 00:09:05,967 --> 00:09:08,867 Based on everything I saw it looked like, 148 00:09:08,867 --> 00:09:11,834 the perpetrator was in the middle of a burglary. 149 00:09:15,567 --> 00:09:21,400 Across town Gloria Winkowski hears the heart breaking news. 150 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:26,600 My husband had to come in and tell me she was murdered. 151 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,367 And I said, "I don't believe it. 152 00:09:28,367 --> 00:09:31,567 I don't believe it." So I started calling her house again. 153 00:09:31,567 --> 00:09:33,767 The policemen answered. I thought it was Jim. 154 00:09:33,767 --> 00:09:35,266 I go, "Is this Jim?" And he goes, 155 00:09:35,266 --> 00:09:37,100 "No, this is officer so and so." 156 00:09:37,100 --> 00:09:39,834 I go, "Please tell me it's not true." 157 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,834 He goes, "It is." And I go, "oh my God!" 158 00:09:44,467 --> 00:09:47,800 That was probably one of the worst things I've ever had happen to me in my life, 159 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,066 losing a friend like that. 160 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,333 It really, really was. 161 00:09:58,567 --> 00:10:01,800 That night, Jim Krauseneck and his daughter Sara 162 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:06,000 are taken to the police station for an interview. 163 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,600 He appeared to be a man that was in shock by what he had found 164 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,467 and what had happened to his soulmate, to his wife. 165 00:10:11,467 --> 00:10:13,100 Concerned about his daughter. 166 00:10:13,100 --> 00:10:14,333 She's tired. 167 00:10:14,333 --> 00:10:17,834 This is whole a lot of stimulus for a three-year-old child. 168 00:10:19,166 --> 00:10:22,233 [Patrick] Jim went through the events of that day. 169 00:10:22,867 --> 00:10:24,266 He said, he woke up. 170 00:10:24,266 --> 00:10:26,567 And that morning it was just a quiet house, 171 00:10:26,567 --> 00:10:28,166 Cathy was asleep still. 172 00:10:28,166 --> 00:10:29,934 And Sara was still asleep. 173 00:10:33,767 --> 00:10:38,200 Jim indicated that he had left for work at 6:30 that morning. 174 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,934 And that his wife was alive and well when he left. 175 00:10:41,867 --> 00:10:44,266 [Patrick] Jim said he had a normal day. 176 00:10:44,266 --> 00:10:46,667 Sara had a doctor's appointment in the afternoon. 177 00:10:46,667 --> 00:10:51,166 And so he said he got home around 4:50 pm to take her to her doctor's appointment. 178 00:10:51,967 --> 00:10:54,800 He then went upstairs. 179 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:59,166 And that's when he found his wife in bed with an axe in her head. 180 00:11:00,767 --> 00:11:02,567 He said that he went to his daughter Sara's room 181 00:11:02,567 --> 00:11:04,567 and she was in there huddled in a corner. 182 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:06,567 She was not harmed. 183 00:11:06,567 --> 00:11:09,300 So, he grabbed her went out the front door 184 00:11:09,300 --> 00:11:11,367 right across the street to the neighbor's house 185 00:11:11,367 --> 00:11:14,200 and then the neighbor called 911. 186 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:19,867 Then the police asked Jim if the weapons found at the scene were familiar to him. 187 00:11:19,867 --> 00:11:23,467 Jim indicated that both maul and the axe were both his. 188 00:11:23,467 --> 00:11:27,800 And that they were both in the garage when he left for work that morning. 189 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:32,166 After they finished taking Jim Krauseneck's statement investigators realized 190 00:11:32,166 --> 00:11:35,667 they have a possible witness to the murder. 191 00:11:46,667 --> 00:11:48,266 [Richard] We didn't want to interview Sara. 192 00:11:48,266 --> 00:11:50,367 You know, she's three-years-old, she's had a toddler. 193 00:11:50,367 --> 00:11:52,600 We didn't know how this impacted her. 194 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,333 But we knew we had to talk to her. 195 00:11:55,266 --> 00:11:57,066 Sara said, "When I woke up, 196 00:11:57,066 --> 00:12:00,634 daddy was gone and mummy was gone and nobody was there to feed me or dress me." 197 00:12:05,500 --> 00:12:07,033 She was all alone all day long, 198 00:12:07,867 --> 00:12:09,166 roaming around. 199 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,967 [Patrick] She said that she had to feed herself breakfast. 200 00:12:21,367 --> 00:12:24,667 And at some point made her way to her mom's room. 201 00:12:40,066 --> 00:12:45,433 She described seeing what she said was a bad man in mommy and daddy's bed. 202 00:12:46,367 --> 00:12:48,767 And when asked what color he was? 203 00:12:48,767 --> 00:12:51,100 You know, was he white? Was he black? 204 00:12:51,100 --> 00:12:52,834 She said he was many colors. 205 00:12:56,567 --> 00:13:00,767 It appeared right away to officers that she was describing her mom 206 00:13:00,767 --> 00:13:03,467 lying in bed and just couldn't recognize her mom 207 00:13:03,467 --> 00:13:05,567 due to the trauma to her mom's head. 208 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,200 The morning after the murder with no family nearby, 209 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:15,767 Jim decides to take Sara back to his parents' house in Michigan, 210 00:13:15,767 --> 00:13:20,667 while the news of Cathy's murder hits the airwaves. 211 00:13:20,667 --> 00:13:23,000 In his 22 years on the force, the lieutenant says, 212 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,567 he's never had to investigate a case this brutal. 213 00:13:25,567 --> 00:13:28,000 As for the neighborhood, well, you get the feeling here 214 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,567 it'll take quite sometime to get over the shock of it. 215 00:13:30,567 --> 00:13:34,000 They were the warmest, nicest people that you'll ever imagine. 216 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,066 They have a lovely little daughter. 217 00:13:36,066 --> 00:13:39,934 And it's... it just doesn't make sense. It just... 218 00:13:44,367 --> 00:13:46,767 This case like, rocked New York. 219 00:13:46,767 --> 00:13:48,934 They called it, "The Brighton ax murder." 220 00:13:49,667 --> 00:13:52,367 We have people that are scared. 221 00:13:52,367 --> 00:13:55,667 They're thinking that there's some homicidal maniac with an axe 222 00:13:55,667 --> 00:13:57,300 running around killing people. 223 00:13:57,300 --> 00:13:59,800 Police say, because of the nature of this crime, 224 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,066 they believe the murderer to be a person who is mentally unstable. 225 00:14:04,867 --> 00:14:07,467 With all the publicity surrounding the case, 226 00:14:07,467 --> 00:14:11,333 a flood of tips pour in to the Brighton Police department. 227 00:14:12,166 --> 00:14:14,166 [Richard] We got a lot of phone calls. 228 00:14:14,166 --> 00:14:19,266 One of those phone calls was about a fellow by name Ed Laraby. 229 00:14:19,266 --> 00:14:22,000 Ed Laraby is a career criminal. 230 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,166 An angry man, a violent man. 231 00:14:25,367 --> 00:14:27,100 I'm Bob Napier. 232 00:14:27,100 --> 00:14:30,000 And I'm the defense attorney for Edward Laraby. 233 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,467 Ed was convicted of multiple rapes and... 234 00:14:33,467 --> 00:14:37,200 he did an extended period of time in state prison 235 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,800 between 1973 and 1980. 236 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,266 [Bill] Ed Laraby was more than a bad dude. 237 00:14:44,266 --> 00:14:47,600 I've never encountered anyone with that level of 238 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,266 sociopathic rage against women. 239 00:14:50,266 --> 00:14:52,166 [Robert] At the time of the Krauseneck murder, 240 00:14:52,166 --> 00:14:55,367 he was on parole. 241 00:14:55,367 --> 00:14:59,767 Ed Laraby in his past certainly committed burglaries. 242 00:14:59,767 --> 00:15:05,567 And his modus operandi would be to case suburban homes, 243 00:15:05,567 --> 00:15:07,467 look in the windows, 244 00:15:07,467 --> 00:15:11,266 specifically, look for a possible female victim 245 00:15:11,266 --> 00:15:15,934 creating the opportunity of both of sexual assault as well as a burglary. 246 00:15:17,767 --> 00:15:23,500 But Laraby's criminal record isn't the only thing that sticks out to police. 247 00:15:23,500 --> 00:15:27,266 [Richard] At the time he lived in an apartment complex 248 00:15:27,266 --> 00:15:32,166 probably within half a mile of the Del Rio Drive address where the crime occurred. 249 00:15:33,500 --> 00:15:37,667 My partner went to Ed Laraby's address and knocked on the door 250 00:15:37,667 --> 00:15:40,266 to verify his activities on the day of the crime. 251 00:15:41,266 --> 00:15:44,066 Ed Laraby became verbally violent, 252 00:15:44,066 --> 00:15:46,567 swearing at my partner, threatening him and was, 253 00:15:46,567 --> 00:15:48,033 you know, totally uncooperative. 254 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,867 We were able to follow up though 255 00:15:52,867 --> 00:15:56,100 and verify that he was employed at the point of time. 256 00:15:56,100 --> 00:15:59,200 Laraby does maintenance for several bars and taverns, 257 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:04,567 and it's a job that keeps him out and about on most days. 258 00:16:04,567 --> 00:16:07,634 [Richard] We were able to verify that he did work that day. 259 00:16:08,066 --> 00:16:10,066 A co-worker saw him. 260 00:16:10,066 --> 00:16:17,700 But it's possible that Laraby had a window of opportunity during his commute to work. 261 00:16:17,700 --> 00:16:22,967 [Richard] Laraby's one hour drive time from home to work was the only blank spot 262 00:16:22,967 --> 00:16:25,834 that could not be verified somebody or documented. 263 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,600 But police didn't have any other evidence 264 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:34,600 to show that he was responsible for the crime. 265 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:38,367 There were no prints, latent prints that were discovered back at the scene. 266 00:16:38,367 --> 00:16:41,567 And DNA wasn't even on the radar back then. 267 00:16:41,567 --> 00:16:45,166 They had no specific information that Laraby was involved in this crime 268 00:16:45,166 --> 00:16:48,634 outside of the fact that he lived down the street and had committed burglaries. 269 00:16:49,767 --> 00:16:52,100 You only really consider someone that's got something 270 00:16:52,100 --> 00:16:53,800 to put your teeth into and run with. 271 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:55,734 And that didn't really materialize. 272 00:16:57,667 --> 00:17:01,967 Detectives interview the people in town that are closest to Cathy, 273 00:17:01,967 --> 00:17:05,266 including her best friend Gloria. 274 00:17:05,266 --> 00:17:08,200 [Gloria] The Brighton Police department sent a detective. 275 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:12,800 And I talked to him for about an hour and a half, two hours. 276 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,734 I told him everything I knew about Cathy. 277 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:20,166 Gloria had mentioned that Cathy wanted to have a second child 278 00:17:20,166 --> 00:17:23,867 but Jim wasn't onboard with that. 279 00:17:23,867 --> 00:17:26,300 She always said to me, "You're so lucky that you have two." 280 00:17:26,300 --> 00:17:27,500 Then I said, "Well, I want to have more." 281 00:17:27,500 --> 00:17:28,800 And she goes, "Oh wow, that's great." 282 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,900 She goes, "Jim doesn't want any more children. 283 00:17:30,900 --> 00:17:32,467 Sara's gonna be our only one." 284 00:17:33,567 --> 00:17:35,367 Gloria goes on to say 285 00:17:35,367 --> 00:17:39,967 that Cathy told her Jim had been coming home from work in a bad mood. 286 00:17:39,967 --> 00:17:42,400 And he was in an especially foul mood 287 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,467 the night before the murder. 288 00:17:45,467 --> 00:17:49,734 [Gloria] When Jim got home from work he was a real bear, like a real grump. 289 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,300 By Thursday night, we were talking 290 00:17:53,300 --> 00:17:57,066 and when Jim got home from work she goes, "I can't talk now. 291 00:17:57,066 --> 00:17:59,433 You know, I've to get off the phone 'cause Jim's home." 292 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,333 Her tone was somewhat fearful. 293 00:18:03,500 --> 00:18:05,567 And that was it. That was the last time I talked to her. 294 00:18:07,066 --> 00:18:10,600 Detectives continue their interviews with Jim's co-workers 295 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,600 and his superiors at Kodak. 296 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:18,367 [Richard] We were advised that for a week before the murder Jim was being pressured 297 00:18:18,367 --> 00:18:21,700 by HR, Human Resources to supply 298 00:18:21,700 --> 00:18:26,066 his doctorate from Colorado State University in economics 299 00:18:26,066 --> 00:18:28,634 to prove to Kodak that they had hired a Ph.D. 300 00:18:29,867 --> 00:18:32,967 But Jim kept making excuses, it must have got lost in the mail, 301 00:18:32,967 --> 00:18:34,367 my advisor got sick. 302 00:18:34,367 --> 00:18:40,467 Different reasons why the paperwork requested by Kodak wasn't provided. 303 00:18:40,467 --> 00:18:44,767 [Alicia] Police check with Colorado State University where Jim went to grad school, 304 00:18:44,767 --> 00:18:48,166 and Jim's advisor tells them Jim failed his oral exams 305 00:18:48,166 --> 00:18:51,066 and never completed his degree. 306 00:18:54,100 --> 00:18:59,166 Investigators also found out that Cathy called Colorado State University 307 00:18:59,166 --> 00:19:04,066 to try and figure out why they were not confirming his Ph.D. 308 00:19:04,066 --> 00:19:07,500 So we know at some point she believed he had his Ph.D. 309 00:19:07,500 --> 00:19:12,367 And from that we know that Jim have lied to Cathy as well about his Ph.D. status. 310 00:19:15,367 --> 00:19:19,000 [Stephen] So what we know is that, you got Cathy who is lonely in the house, 311 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:20,500 wants to have another kid. 312 00:19:20,500 --> 00:19:24,266 Now all of a sudden she discovers Jim's job is based on a lie. 313 00:19:24,266 --> 00:19:28,467 His pay and his position were based on that doctorate. 314 00:19:28,467 --> 00:19:31,767 And I've talked to people from Kodak and, yeah, it was... 315 00:19:31,767 --> 00:19:33,233 he was probably gonna lose his job. 316 00:19:34,467 --> 00:19:37,000 There's definitely gonna be some stress in that house. 317 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:41,166 And I believe it was coming to a head that week. 318 00:19:41,166 --> 00:19:45,667 With all of this in mind, investigators turned back to the evidence, 319 00:19:45,667 --> 00:19:52,667 and begin looking at the crime scene in a new light. 320 00:19:52,667 --> 00:19:55,800 [Richard] This was the neatest burglar that we've ever seen. 321 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,467 A regular burglar, they pretty much go like Vikings through a house. 322 00:19:59,467 --> 00:20:02,667 You'd pull drawers out you dump them under floor to see what's in there 323 00:20:02,667 --> 00:20:04,266 to pick through. 324 00:20:04,266 --> 00:20:06,266 There were items left around 325 00:20:06,266 --> 00:20:09,600 that a regular burglar would normally just grab stuff in their pockets. 326 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:14,300 It just did not fit the mold of a burglary. 327 00:20:14,300 --> 00:20:18,066 [Patrick] It just looked like the whole thing had been staged. 328 00:20:18,066 --> 00:20:21,400 And have to ask yourself why stage a burglary? 329 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,266 And the answer is pretty simple. 330 00:20:23,266 --> 00:20:26,767 To make it look like somebody from outside of the house killed Cathy. 331 00:20:26,767 --> 00:20:29,033 When in fact it was somebody inside the house. 332 00:20:37,900 --> 00:20:40,500 [Alicia] Within days after the murder of Cathy Krauseneck, 333 00:20:40,500 --> 00:20:45,634 her husband Jim has risen to the top of the suspect list. 334 00:20:46,767 --> 00:20:50,800 So a team of Brighton investigators went to Michigan 335 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,000 to speak with James Krauseneck again. 336 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:58,700 [Richard] Jim came to our hotel room with his father, Jim Sr. 337 00:20:58,700 --> 00:21:03,467 and his brother-in-law who was an attorney. 338 00:21:03,467 --> 00:21:07,367 Maybe 15 to 20 minutes since the discussion with Jim, 339 00:21:07,367 --> 00:21:11,767 the brother-in-law would say, so, what are you finding about the burglary? 340 00:21:11,767 --> 00:21:15,900 And before myself or the other officer could answer Jim jumped up 341 00:21:15,900 --> 00:21:20,000 and raged, upset, I don't wanna talk about this. I don't wanna hear this. 342 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,166 This is it. I don't want any part of this. 343 00:21:24,367 --> 00:21:28,100 And he terminated the interview. 344 00:21:28,100 --> 00:21:30,467 [Alicia] Jim's reaction to the mentioning of the burglary 345 00:21:30,467 --> 00:21:32,567 raises investigators suspicions 346 00:21:32,567 --> 00:21:38,533 but without any evidence or probable cause to arrest him they have to let him walk. 347 00:21:40,300 --> 00:21:44,266 Few days later Jim agreed meet with the investigators again 348 00:21:44,266 --> 00:21:48,100 but this time at the hospital to give blood, hair and saliva samples 349 00:21:48,100 --> 00:21:50,800 for him and for Sara. 350 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,166 [Richard] We needed those samples to eliminate them 351 00:21:53,166 --> 00:21:55,433 from an outside party or an intruder. 352 00:21:56,567 --> 00:21:59,166 [Alicia] Jim refuses to meet again. 353 00:21:59,166 --> 00:22:06,900 So with Jim out of reach, detectives pay a visit to Cathy's family. 354 00:22:06,900 --> 00:22:10,000 I promised the family, as long as I am alive on this earth, I will do anything I can 355 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,233 to solve your daughter's murder. 356 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:17,200 The Brighton PD chases down every credible lead 357 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:21,233 and is growing increasingly frustrated. 358 00:22:22,266 --> 00:22:24,900 [Richard] We were really coming up with nothing. 359 00:22:24,900 --> 00:22:29,333 We spent months trying to develop any suspect or motive 360 00:22:30,467 --> 00:22:32,300 or outside party, 361 00:22:32,300 --> 00:22:35,500 either forensically, talking person to person. 362 00:22:35,500 --> 00:22:39,266 Information coming in to follow up, nothing could be produced. 363 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,000 [Gloria] I would think about her quite often. 364 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:47,100 I prayed every night that they'd find justice for her. 365 00:22:47,100 --> 00:22:50,066 Every time I saw a policeman I'd go, are you gonna open up the Krauseneck case? 366 00:22:50,066 --> 00:22:51,834 I didn't want that to die. 367 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:57,367 [Alicia] For decades, the case really lies dormant. 368 00:22:57,367 --> 00:23:02,767 Until 2014 when a voice from the past returns. 369 00:23:02,767 --> 00:23:05,200 [Christine] In 2014, the police get a 370 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,200 confession letter by Ed Laraby 371 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:11,166 that he says he killed Cathy Krauseneck. 372 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:18,000 In 2014 he was serving a life sentence for rape 373 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,834 as well as a attempted murder of a correctional officer. 374 00:23:23,967 --> 00:23:29,100 Laraby has recently confessed to another murder from 1991. 375 00:23:29,100 --> 00:23:32,467 Stephanie Kupchynsky was a 27-year-old music teacher 376 00:23:32,467 --> 00:23:35,567 who Laraby raped and strangled to death 377 00:23:35,567 --> 00:23:37,834 and dumped her body in the woods. 378 00:23:38,467 --> 00:23:39,867 [Laraby speaking] 379 00:23:51,500 --> 00:23:57,667 This other murder bares some similarities to the Krauseneck murder. 380 00:23:57,667 --> 00:24:01,066 Both are attractive women in their twenties. 381 00:24:01,066 --> 00:24:05,233 And it's a home invasion that turns into a homicide. 382 00:24:06,700 --> 00:24:12,300 Given these similarities and Laraby's violent criminal background, 383 00:24:12,300 --> 00:24:17,233 the Brighton police think his letter might have some credibility. 384 00:24:18,266 --> 00:24:22,300 Also, Laraby was suffering from Lou Gehrig's disease 385 00:24:22,300 --> 00:24:24,500 and he's so close to death. 386 00:24:24,500 --> 00:24:27,100 Maybe he just wanted to clear his conscience 387 00:24:27,100 --> 00:24:30,767 and just admit what he had sone before he died. 388 00:24:30,767 --> 00:24:35,433 But Ed Laraby wants certain favors in exchange for his confession. 389 00:24:36,367 --> 00:24:37,800 [Sandra] My name is Sandra Doorley. 390 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,700 I'm the Monroe County district attorney. 391 00:24:39,700 --> 00:24:42,834 And I've been a prosecutor now for over 31 years. 392 00:24:43,867 --> 00:24:46,500 He wanted money put aside for his children. 393 00:24:46,500 --> 00:24:48,000 He wanted a headstone. 394 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,066 He wanted to not be buried within 395 00:24:51,066 --> 00:24:53,066 the department of corrections prison system. 396 00:24:53,066 --> 00:24:55,567 He wanted to be buried as a free man. 397 00:24:56,667 --> 00:24:59,900 [Alicia] Before agreeing to any of Laraby's requests, 398 00:24:59,900 --> 00:25:02,767 Brighton police and the DA's office 399 00:25:02,767 --> 00:25:07,400 examine his confession very carefully. 400 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,266 [Stephen] Laraby said that he was working, 401 00:25:11,266 --> 00:25:13,467 doing drugs, drinking, 402 00:25:13,467 --> 00:25:18,066 and that he went to the Krausenecks' and Cathy answered the door. 403 00:25:19,100 --> 00:25:21,100 [Patrick] He said they had a conversation. 404 00:25:21,100 --> 00:25:22,000 He decided at that point 405 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,767 that he was going to rape and kill her. 406 00:25:23,767 --> 00:25:28,266 So then he rapes her and then kills her with an axe from the garage. 407 00:25:28,266 --> 00:25:32,367 [Stephen] But the way he described the scene and her murder was way off. 408 00:25:32,367 --> 00:25:35,100 He said that it had happened in the summer of 1981. 409 00:25:35,100 --> 00:25:38,767 He said that she was a heavy-set, white female, dark hair. 410 00:25:38,767 --> 00:25:41,266 He sexually assaulted her, he took her underwear. 411 00:25:41,266 --> 00:25:42,867 But none of that happened. 412 00:25:42,867 --> 00:25:44,266 That's not how it happened. 413 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,000 Not one thing that he said matched the evidence of the crime scene. 414 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,333 It was not credible. It was simply not credible. 415 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:59,333 It appears he was just trying to say anything he could to get the benefits he wanted. 416 00:26:00,867 --> 00:26:03,800 A few weeks later Ed Laraby dies in prison 417 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:08,200 and Cathy Krauseneck's case remains unsolved. 418 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,200 But in 2015, the case gets new life 419 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,467 when the FBI takes an interest. 420 00:26:15,467 --> 00:26:18,200 The FBI get a cold case working group. 421 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:22,467 And basically, they would offer services up to agencies the area 422 00:26:22,467 --> 00:26:25,667 that had cold cases that needed some help. 423 00:26:25,667 --> 00:26:29,900 So, after this invitation from the FBI there was energy within the department. 424 00:26:29,900 --> 00:26:32,200 And I couldn't wait to get into it 425 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,000 and actually to see what we had and what we could do. 426 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,166 [Patrick] In 1982, the main things they did were check items for fingerprints. 427 00:26:39,166 --> 00:26:44,000 And they also were able to do hair analysis of various items. 428 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,100 But it was very limited what they were able to do. 429 00:26:47,100 --> 00:26:50,867 [Sandra] Technology has certainly changed since back in 1982. 430 00:26:50,867 --> 00:26:53,300 So I was focusing on DNA. 431 00:26:53,300 --> 00:26:56,867 I wanted everything tested to the best of our ability. 432 00:26:56,867 --> 00:27:00,867 I wanted to know if there was another DNA profile in that house. 433 00:27:00,867 --> 00:27:04,767 If there was evidence of an outsider coming in that morning, 434 00:27:04,767 --> 00:27:08,400 then that was where my investigation should focus. 435 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,667 If not then we needed to focus on people inside of that house. 436 00:27:16,100 --> 00:27:18,467 [Patrick] So the FBI was sent any items that Brighton police 437 00:27:18,467 --> 00:27:20,767 or the DA's office thought could be helpful. 438 00:27:20,767 --> 00:27:22,700 They were sent the axe and the maul. 439 00:27:22,700 --> 00:27:27,367 They were sent the garbage bag that was left there half open with the shoe print. 440 00:27:27,367 --> 00:27:32,867 In addition to the DNA testing, investigators re-examine the burglary. 441 00:27:32,867 --> 00:27:39,900 They feel that not only is it staged but it defies logic. 442 00:27:39,900 --> 00:27:45,000 One of the things that really hit me right away was the use of both an axe and a maul. 443 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,166 No matter how I wrap my head around it, 444 00:27:47,166 --> 00:27:50,066 I couldn't come up with a reason why an intruder 445 00:27:50,066 --> 00:27:52,667 would need to use both the axe and the maul. 446 00:27:52,667 --> 00:27:55,800 I could see you breaking the window with the maul and leaving it there. 447 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,100 But you see Cathy upstairs sleeping, 448 00:27:58,100 --> 00:28:01,567 and then you run back downstairs, go pass the maul that you just left 449 00:28:01,567 --> 00:28:03,567 and then go into the garage get the axe 450 00:28:03,567 --> 00:28:06,900 and go pass the maul again, go upstairs, put the axe in her head. 451 00:28:06,900 --> 00:28:09,967 That stuff just doesn't makes sense. 452 00:28:09,967 --> 00:28:12,867 [Patrick] The only reason that that maul was needed was because 453 00:28:12,867 --> 00:28:14,500 the axe was not available at that time, 454 00:28:14,500 --> 00:28:16,266 because the axe was already in Cathy's head. 455 00:28:25,100 --> 00:28:28,967 Results of the DNA from the axe and the maul 456 00:28:28,967 --> 00:28:32,200 have come back from the FBI. 457 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:36,567 [Patrick] And there was dried blood on the axe, they had determined it was Cathy's DNA. 458 00:28:36,567 --> 00:28:38,900 But they did not find any other profiles, 459 00:28:38,900 --> 00:28:42,400 known profiles or unknown profiles on any of the items. 460 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,667 Which was consistent with the theory that 461 00:28:44,667 --> 00:28:47,467 there was no stranger in this house. 462 00:28:47,467 --> 00:28:49,667 [Christine] So that made it more convincing to them 463 00:28:49,667 --> 00:28:52,333 that the real culprit was Jim Krauseneck. 464 00:29:01,266 --> 00:29:07,166 In addition to everything else, the DA's office also re-examines the time of death. 465 00:29:08,166 --> 00:29:11,066 Our office reached out to one of the more well known 466 00:29:11,066 --> 00:29:14,567 medical examiners in the country, Dr. Michael Baden. 467 00:29:14,567 --> 00:29:17,266 And he looked at the case. 468 00:29:17,266 --> 00:29:23,467 His new analysis puts the time of death at around 3:30 in the morning. 469 00:29:23,467 --> 00:29:27,867 An hour earlier than the original estimate. 470 00:29:27,867 --> 00:29:32,834 That would've been a time when James Krauseneck was present in the house. 471 00:29:36,767 --> 00:29:40,667 The next step was let's see if we can talk to Jim Krauseneck again. 472 00:29:40,667 --> 00:29:42,500 Let's see if we can talk to Sara Krauseneck again. 473 00:29:42,500 --> 00:29:46,166 Let's talk to the only two people who might know what happened that morning. 474 00:29:46,567 --> 00:29:48,467 [officer speaking] 475 00:29:59,166 --> 00:30:00,900 When investigators from the DA's office 476 00:30:00,900 --> 00:30:03,000 went and knocked on Sara's door out of the blue, 477 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,467 she did not know they were coming. 478 00:30:41,900 --> 00:30:45,400 And at the same time Brighton police had two investigators from their office 479 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,767 go to talk to James Krauseneck. 480 00:30:47,767 --> 00:30:52,467 We did them both at the same time because we didn't want them talking. 481 00:30:52,467 --> 00:30:57,266 The interview started with us just talking about 1982 482 00:30:57,266 --> 00:30:58,400 and what he remembered. 483 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:11,100 We got past the introductions and the building rapport 484 00:31:11,100 --> 00:31:13,533 then we just switch gears. 485 00:31:41,467 --> 00:31:44,900 [Stephen] His mannerisms, he's back and forth in his chair. 486 00:31:44,900 --> 00:31:47,867 He was struggling to talk. 487 00:31:47,867 --> 00:31:51,433 Dry mouth, you can see the saliva thickening in the corners of his mouth. 488 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,734 He was visibly shaken. 489 00:32:26,166 --> 00:32:31,467 I went into this being like, 97% sure that he did it. 490 00:32:31,467 --> 00:32:34,533 When I left that interview I was 100% sure that he did it. 491 00:32:38,166 --> 00:32:43,100 The County DA goes to a grand jury to present their circumstantial case. 492 00:32:43,100 --> 00:32:49,467 And the grand jury indicts Jim on one count of murder in the second degree. 493 00:32:49,467 --> 00:32:52,967 James Krauseneck Jr. surrendered to authorities on Friday, November 8th 494 00:32:52,967 --> 00:32:55,367 at the hall of justice in Rochester where he's charged with murder 495 00:32:55,367 --> 00:32:56,800 in the second degree 496 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,567 by way of a grand jury indictment. 497 00:32:58,567 --> 00:33:03,133 I had my suspicions, you know? The more I thought about him, the way he was... 498 00:33:04,567 --> 00:33:06,066 I could see that he did it. 499 00:33:07,100 --> 00:33:09,367 You are not supposed to be happy in things like this. 500 00:33:09,367 --> 00:33:12,700 But I was happy, really happy that they were finally gonna 501 00:33:12,700 --> 00:33:14,634 hopefully get justice for Cathy. 502 00:33:16,367 --> 00:33:19,066 I believed in our case, i believed in our evidence. 503 00:33:19,066 --> 00:33:21,867 But we knew it was not gonna be an easy case. 504 00:33:21,867 --> 00:33:23,634 It was gonna be an uphill battle. 505 00:33:30,567 --> 00:33:32,000 [Sandra] Over the next couple of years, 506 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,367 we worked with the investigators to put the case together. 507 00:33:36,367 --> 00:33:41,467 Then close to trial time, one of the detectives uncovers something 508 00:33:41,467 --> 00:33:43,333 that had gone unnoticed. 509 00:33:44,367 --> 00:33:45,767 [Stephen] Right before the trial, 510 00:33:45,767 --> 00:33:49,367 something told me to look at the pictures from the crime scene. 511 00:33:49,367 --> 00:33:52,100 And there's a picture of the black bag 512 00:33:52,100 --> 00:33:56,100 with a latent shoe print with a sipe pattern. 513 00:33:56,100 --> 00:33:58,767 Also, there's one picture in particular 514 00:33:58,767 --> 00:34:02,867 with Jim's clothes on it and there's a pair of boat shoes in the foreground. 515 00:34:02,867 --> 00:34:07,233 What struck me is what if the siped pattern was from the boat shoe? 516 00:34:08,166 --> 00:34:10,667 We didn't have Jim's boat shoes to compare to. 517 00:34:10,667 --> 00:34:13,700 So I Goggled boat shoe soles 518 00:34:13,700 --> 00:34:16,300 and a Sebago Docksider came up 519 00:34:16,300 --> 00:34:19,433 and the bottom of that sole is a siped pattern. 520 00:34:21,367 --> 00:34:25,667 It doesn't take an expert to look at those two patterns, put 'em side by side and say, 521 00:34:25,667 --> 00:34:27,433 that's the sipe pattern from the boat shoe. 522 00:34:31,100 --> 00:34:34,000 So I reached out to people that were close to Jim in his life. 523 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,066 And I asked them what are Jim's favorite type of shoes? 524 00:34:37,066 --> 00:34:39,834 And they all said the same thing, boat shoes. 525 00:34:47,767 --> 00:34:50,467 [Alicia] In late August of 2022, 526 00:34:50,467 --> 00:34:53,367 40 years after Cathy Krauseneck's murder, 527 00:34:53,367 --> 00:34:55,433 Jim Krauseneck stands trial. 528 00:34:56,166 --> 00:35:00,600 Cathy's 94-year-old father has waited 529 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,934 half his life for this day. 530 00:35:04,767 --> 00:35:07,867 I wanted justice done for my daughter. 531 00:35:07,867 --> 00:35:11,800 And I'd like to have it as soon as possible. 532 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:16,500 At my age, I don't know how long I'm gonna be along around here. 533 00:35:16,500 --> 00:35:20,867 Cathy's family was there. Her sister, her cousins and her father. 534 00:35:20,867 --> 00:35:23,567 And they were there everyday for the trial. 535 00:35:23,567 --> 00:35:28,200 We want justice for my sister. Justice for Cathy. 536 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,266 Sara is a victim in this as well. 537 00:35:31,266 --> 00:35:34,700 I want her to see justice. We love her. 538 00:35:34,700 --> 00:35:37,700 And we need a speedy trial. 539 00:35:37,700 --> 00:35:41,433 The prosecution lays out it's plan in their opening statement. 540 00:35:42,667 --> 00:35:46,000 We started our case with two words "common sense." 541 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,667 I knew it was a very circumstantial case. 542 00:35:48,667 --> 00:35:52,567 We knew that we had the facts that point to Jim Krauseneck 543 00:35:52,567 --> 00:35:54,667 as the person responsible of this crime. 544 00:35:54,667 --> 00:35:59,767 But could we get the people to use their common sense and make those inferences. 545 00:35:59,767 --> 00:36:04,266 [Bill] The prosecution's case is essentially, "use your common sense." 546 00:36:04,266 --> 00:36:07,266 But if your common sense tells you something is guilty 547 00:36:07,266 --> 00:36:08,800 that doesn't mean anything. 548 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,767 It's what's the evidence that shows it? 549 00:36:12,767 --> 00:36:15,867 And without direct evidence that he did it, 550 00:36:15,867 --> 00:36:18,033 we're nowhere near beyond a miserable doubt. 551 00:36:19,467 --> 00:36:25,200 The prosecution presents their argument that the burglary was staged. 552 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:30,667 [Patrick] Outside of that broken window in the porch and the items 553 00:36:30,667 --> 00:36:35,767 placed on the floor of the dining room nothing is out of place. 554 00:36:36,900 --> 00:36:38,667 This is not what a burglary looks like. 555 00:36:40,100 --> 00:36:44,667 For the defense, it's our theory that even if it were staged, 556 00:36:44,667 --> 00:36:48,266 why couldn't someone else have staged it? 557 00:36:48,266 --> 00:36:51,900 Ed Laraby had broken into houses to assault women before. 558 00:36:51,900 --> 00:36:56,066 He had an equal motive to stage a burglary. 559 00:36:57,900 --> 00:37:02,200 The prosecution also presents one of the more crucial arguments 560 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:03,934 against Jim Krauseneck. 561 00:37:04,567 --> 00:37:05,667 Motive. 562 00:37:05,667 --> 00:37:08,700 I submit to you that there is evidence of a motive here. 563 00:37:08,700 --> 00:37:12,200 We have the defendant with this life that he's carefully crafted. 564 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:16,734 Beautiful wife, great job... but it's built on this lie. 565 00:37:18,166 --> 00:37:23,500 The defendant did not have a Ph.D. and he said he had a Ph.D. 566 00:37:23,500 --> 00:37:27,667 He knows that things are gonna come crashing down around him. 567 00:37:27,667 --> 00:37:29,867 It could cause a degree of insecurity. 568 00:37:29,867 --> 00:37:33,900 But to translate that into a motive 569 00:37:33,900 --> 00:37:36,000 to put an axe into your wife's head? 570 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,834 It doesn't make any sense. 571 00:37:39,967 --> 00:37:46,767 Finally the prosecution presents the shoe print evidence from the garbage bag. 572 00:37:46,767 --> 00:37:49,467 Think about when this burglary was committed. 573 00:37:49,467 --> 00:37:52,867 It's February, there's snow on the ground. 574 00:37:54,767 --> 00:37:58,567 Who's committing a burglary in boat shoes. 575 00:37:58,567 --> 00:38:02,700 Their theory was no one else would be wearing moccasins other than Jim Krauseneck. 576 00:38:02,700 --> 00:38:04,767 He was a boat-shoe type person. 577 00:38:04,767 --> 00:38:07,467 That's speculative nonsense. 578 00:38:07,467 --> 00:38:08,433 We don't know that. 579 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,367 [Alicia] Once the prosecution rests, 580 00:38:11,367 --> 00:38:15,767 the defense knows that in order to get a not guilty verdict 581 00:38:15,767 --> 00:38:19,266 they only need to show that there's reasonable doubt 582 00:38:19,266 --> 00:38:21,166 that Jim committed this crime. 583 00:38:21,166 --> 00:38:26,634 And in this case, there was another suspect who actually confessed. 584 00:38:27,100 --> 00:38:28,066 Edward Laraby. 585 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,266 What do we know about Edward Laraby? 586 00:38:33,266 --> 00:38:36,567 Ed Laraby had a history of stalking women, 587 00:38:36,567 --> 00:38:39,300 breaking into their residence or houses, 588 00:38:39,300 --> 00:38:41,667 and violently attacking. 589 00:38:41,667 --> 00:38:44,500 It's our theory Laraby entered their house 590 00:38:44,500 --> 00:38:48,033 as he did often to attack Cathy. 591 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,567 After four weeks, the case comes to a close. 592 00:38:55,567 --> 00:38:58,834 And the jury adjourns to deliberate. 593 00:38:59,867 --> 00:39:01,367 [Helen] I'm Helen Newman. 594 00:39:01,367 --> 00:39:06,834 I was the foreperson of the jury during James Krauseneck's trial. 595 00:39:08,066 --> 00:39:13,000 A man's whole future and life is at stake here. 596 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,767 So we did not want to rush it. 597 00:39:15,767 --> 00:39:19,367 When we did finally take out for a vote, 598 00:39:19,367 --> 00:39:25,934 some of the jurors were stuck on how could someone, a father 599 00:39:26,667 --> 00:39:31,967 leave their young child home all day 600 00:39:32,867 --> 00:39:36,533 in the same house with her dead mother? 601 00:39:38,467 --> 00:39:44,834 And that was probably the most important roadblock 602 00:39:45,567 --> 00:39:47,934 to coming to a verdict. 603 00:39:50,066 --> 00:39:53,867 After three days, the jury has reached a verdict. 604 00:39:53,867 --> 00:39:54,834 [woman speaking] 605 00:40:06,500 --> 00:40:07,533 [Helen speaking] 606 00:40:11,467 --> 00:40:17,467 We decided that if a husband can kill his wife 607 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,667 in such a horrific manner, 608 00:40:20,667 --> 00:40:24,667 why wouldn't we believe that he could also leave 609 00:40:24,667 --> 00:40:29,367 his young child home alone with her dead mother? 610 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,266 We did it! Justice for Cathy! 611 00:40:34,266 --> 00:40:40,000 I'm gonna get my daughter's body removed from the Krauseneck plot 612 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,667 and moved back to her mother and her brother in Michigan. 613 00:40:46,300 --> 00:40:51,467 [Sandra] I... I just felt... so happy for the family. 614 00:40:51,467 --> 00:40:54,367 All I could think of was that after all of these years 615 00:40:54,367 --> 00:40:57,166 they were finally getting justice. 616 00:40:57,166 --> 00:41:01,400 Everybody told us we couldn't win 40-year-old case, but we did. 617 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,300 I'm happy that justice was finally found for Cathy. 618 00:41:05,300 --> 00:41:08,600 But I just think that it's just so heart breaking 619 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,433 that Sara will never know what a wonderful mother she had. 620 00:41:12,300 --> 00:41:14,066 And how much she loved her. 621 00:41:15,700 --> 00:41:19,767 While many are relieved and elated by the guilty verdict, 622 00:41:19,767 --> 00:41:22,467 there are some who feel quite the opposite. 623 00:41:22,467 --> 00:41:25,166 My mother's killer got away with her murder. 624 00:41:25,166 --> 00:41:28,767 And my father's life has been taken by a failed justice system 625 00:41:28,767 --> 00:41:31,066 that convicted him of a crime he did not commit. 626 00:41:31,967 --> 00:41:35,667 Now, 40 years after Cathy Krauseneck's murder, 627 00:41:35,667 --> 00:41:38,700 Her husband, at the age of 70 628 00:41:38,700 --> 00:41:41,667 is sentenced to 25 years to life. 629 00:41:47,066 --> 00:41:48,467 I wish she was right here, 630 00:41:48,467 --> 00:41:51,967 you know, alive and happy. 631 00:41:51,967 --> 00:41:54,967 There's something about Cathy, she's like an angel. 632 00:41:54,967 --> 00:41:57,000 Which she is now. 633 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,200 She's finally up there resting in peace I hope.