1 00:00:02,070 --> 00:00:03,204 Previously on "Chance"... 2 00:00:03,237 --> 00:00:06,040 Chance: Nic thanked Pepper? 3 00:00:06,074 --> 00:00:08,008 Christina: Right after she broke her nose. 4 00:00:08,042 --> 00:00:10,478 D: My father hired new PIs to track me. 5 00:00:10,511 --> 00:00:12,180 It'll just be for a couple of days. 6 00:00:12,213 --> 00:00:13,814 Why don't you just talk to him, 7 00:00:13,847 --> 00:00:15,183 just get everything out on the table, 8 00:00:15,216 --> 00:00:17,485 even if it's only to establish terms? 9 00:00:17,518 --> 00:00:19,653 My son -- the last time I saw him, 10 00:00:19,687 --> 00:00:21,355 he was just a little boy. 11 00:00:21,389 --> 00:00:23,757 -What happened? -Well, gay is what happened. 12 00:00:23,791 --> 00:00:25,726 Lambert: Winter's people reached out. 13 00:00:25,759 --> 00:00:28,596 I'm telling you, as a friend, you need to back off. 14 00:00:28,629 --> 00:00:30,331 He wants to torment you, 15 00:00:30,364 --> 00:00:32,066 and you can't let him get away with it. 16 00:00:32,100 --> 00:00:33,434 We can't. 17 00:00:33,467 --> 00:00:36,036 Hynes: Winter filed another complaint. 18 00:00:36,070 --> 00:00:37,438 I've lost my job. 19 00:00:37,471 --> 00:00:39,773 Chance: Mr. Winter has suffered a trauma. 20 00:00:39,807 --> 00:00:41,775 It's raised issues for him that he wants to work through 21 00:00:41,809 --> 00:00:43,211 with therapy. 22 00:00:43,244 --> 00:00:45,346 Does he want that, or do you want it? 23 00:00:45,379 --> 00:00:48,082 He says he has to trust the process, trust you, 24 00:00:48,116 --> 00:00:50,518 but I don't have to, and I don't. 25 00:00:50,551 --> 00:00:53,053 Winter: I hurt people. 26 00:00:53,087 --> 00:00:55,523 I hurt them so bad... 27 00:00:55,556 --> 00:00:57,791 that they died. [ Breathes shakily ] 28 00:01:01,662 --> 00:01:10,471 ** 29 00:01:10,504 --> 00:01:19,380 ** 30 00:01:19,413 --> 00:01:28,222 ** 31 00:01:28,256 --> 00:01:37,097 ** 32 00:01:37,131 --> 00:01:45,973 ** 33 00:01:48,108 --> 00:01:51,445 Winter: I felt helpless. 34 00:01:51,479 --> 00:01:53,814 Then I found a way not to be. 35 00:01:55,983 --> 00:01:57,585 She woke back up... 36 00:01:57,618 --> 00:01:59,753 at one point. 37 00:01:59,787 --> 00:02:00,921 Regained consciousness. 38 00:02:00,954 --> 00:02:04,325 Mommy! Mommy! 39 00:02:04,358 --> 00:02:07,928 It's funny, she was, uh, pretty lucid talking about -- 40 00:02:07,961 --> 00:02:09,997 well, not funny, 41 00:02:10,030 --> 00:02:14,668 but it's curious, the kinds of things people will say. 42 00:02:17,037 --> 00:02:19,440 She said that she was worried about 43 00:02:19,473 --> 00:02:21,609 a driver's test she had the next morning 44 00:02:21,642 --> 00:02:24,478 and asked me if I was there to help her study. 45 00:02:24,512 --> 00:02:26,013 To tutor her. 46 00:02:26,046 --> 00:02:27,047 [ Gasps ] 47 00:02:31,319 --> 00:02:34,622 Her name was Catherine. 48 00:02:34,655 --> 00:02:37,157 And she made me feel better. 49 00:02:41,895 --> 00:02:43,497 That was the first one? 50 00:02:45,233 --> 00:02:47,668 First one you -- you hurt? 51 00:02:47,701 --> 00:02:49,270 You killed? 52 00:02:51,004 --> 00:02:53,374 [ Fire crackling ] 53 00:02:56,877 --> 00:02:58,946 That was your coping mechanism. 54 00:03:00,514 --> 00:03:02,182 Yes. 55 00:03:02,216 --> 00:03:04,585 But it didn't last. 56 00:03:06,287 --> 00:03:07,555 No. 57 00:03:10,424 --> 00:03:12,993 Once you know how, you want to feel better again. 58 00:03:13,026 --> 00:03:19,600 ** 59 00:03:19,633 --> 00:03:21,134 How many? 60 00:03:22,803 --> 00:03:24,171 How many have there been? 61 00:03:24,204 --> 00:03:29,410 ** 62 00:03:29,443 --> 00:03:34,682 ** 63 00:03:34,715 --> 00:03:36,784 How do you choose them? 64 00:03:36,817 --> 00:03:38,286 Your victims? 65 00:03:38,319 --> 00:03:40,421 Sins choose us... 66 00:03:42,456 --> 00:03:45,959 ...according to our weaknesses. 67 00:03:47,961 --> 00:03:50,598 But there are people 68 00:03:50,631 --> 00:03:55,436 who shine with vulnerability, 69 00:03:55,469 --> 00:03:57,805 whether they know it or not. 70 00:03:57,838 --> 00:03:59,873 Their faces say, 71 00:03:59,907 --> 00:04:02,310 "I am afraid of you." 72 00:04:02,343 --> 00:04:06,146 Their faces tell you what they expect you to do to them. 73 00:04:06,179 --> 00:04:08,582 They expect to be hurt. 74 00:04:08,616 --> 00:04:10,618 They invite it, 75 00:04:10,651 --> 00:04:14,121 because they expect it. 76 00:04:14,154 --> 00:04:16,824 And if I chose anything, 77 00:04:16,857 --> 00:04:21,795 it was because their weakness spoke to mine. 78 00:04:25,132 --> 00:04:26,467 Were they all mothers? 79 00:04:26,500 --> 00:04:28,168 [ Breathes shakily ] 80 00:04:28,201 --> 00:04:31,672 A child shines with vulnerability. 81 00:04:33,641 --> 00:04:36,610 A child who's been hurt expects to be hurt again. 82 00:04:38,346 --> 00:04:40,280 Does that mean they deserve it? 83 00:04:40,314 --> 00:04:44,618 Or do they deserve to be protected? 84 00:04:44,652 --> 00:04:47,755 Cared for? Loved? 85 00:04:47,788 --> 00:04:52,360 ** 86 00:04:52,393 --> 00:04:54,261 Who told you this, 87 00:04:54,294 --> 00:04:56,997 about sin and weakness? 88 00:04:57,030 --> 00:04:59,767 Who said that to you? 89 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,935 A very damaged woman 90 00:05:01,969 --> 00:05:05,305 who was carrying her own terrible psychic pain 91 00:05:05,339 --> 00:05:08,842 she tried to give to you -- pass on to you. 92 00:05:08,876 --> 00:05:10,978 Before she tried to destroy you. 93 00:05:12,380 --> 00:05:14,014 [ Breathes shakily ] 94 00:05:14,047 --> 00:05:15,883 I'm not dead. 95 00:05:15,916 --> 00:05:18,519 I'm lost, but I'm not dead. 96 00:05:18,552 --> 00:05:20,320 I'm not dead! 97 00:05:20,354 --> 00:05:28,662 ** 98 00:05:32,032 --> 00:05:40,574 ** 99 00:05:40,608 --> 00:05:49,149 ** 100 00:05:49,182 --> 00:05:50,718 D: Hm. 101 00:05:50,751 --> 00:05:53,153 Old school. 102 00:05:53,186 --> 00:05:54,688 But effective. 103 00:05:54,722 --> 00:05:59,727 ** 104 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:04,765 ** 105 00:06:04,798 --> 00:06:06,534 How's this? 106 00:06:06,567 --> 00:06:13,541 ** 107 00:06:13,574 --> 00:06:20,514 ** 108 00:06:20,548 --> 00:06:22,182 How about now? 109 00:06:22,215 --> 00:06:25,252 ** 110 00:06:25,285 --> 00:06:28,756 Fear stops when you kill the thing you're afraid of. 111 00:06:30,624 --> 00:06:32,593 Or it kills you. 112 00:06:32,626 --> 00:06:41,134 ** 113 00:06:41,168 --> 00:06:49,710 ** 114 00:06:49,743 --> 00:06:51,912 How many? 115 00:06:51,945 --> 00:06:55,382 He talked about how he kills them and how he tracked them. 116 00:06:55,415 --> 00:06:56,650 He implied it was many, 117 00:06:56,684 --> 00:06:58,719 but he never actually said a number. 118 00:06:58,752 --> 00:07:01,455 He did name one, though -- Catherine. 119 00:07:01,489 --> 00:07:03,491 I-I -- I had him. 120 00:07:03,524 --> 00:07:04,925 He was right there with me. 121 00:07:04,958 --> 00:07:06,927 Let's just go for a drive. 122 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:08,596 Maybe we just go for a drive. 123 00:07:08,629 --> 00:07:11,732 Yeah. I'll drive you wherever you want to go. 124 00:07:11,765 --> 00:07:13,266 I don't feel right. 125 00:07:13,300 --> 00:07:15,936 Listen, I think you're being very brave, Ryan. 126 00:07:15,969 --> 00:07:19,473 You've had to carry this whole thing alone for so long. 127 00:07:19,507 --> 00:07:21,008 Give me a second. 128 00:07:21,041 --> 00:07:22,409 You know what I think we should do right now? 129 00:07:22,442 --> 00:07:24,512 I'd like to bring you to the hospital. 130 00:07:24,545 --> 00:07:26,313 Get you admitted. 131 00:07:26,346 --> 00:07:29,950 You got further than I ever did, than -- than anyone could. 132 00:07:29,983 --> 00:07:31,418 But then to fucking lose him... 133 00:07:31,451 --> 00:07:34,121 [ Beep ] -Kitchen door open. 134 00:07:34,154 --> 00:07:37,357 Oh, no. No, no, no. 135 00:07:37,390 --> 00:07:38,659 What? 136 00:07:38,692 --> 00:07:39,960 She's here. 137 00:07:39,993 --> 00:07:41,962 Ryan, are you all right? 138 00:07:41,995 --> 00:07:44,464 I'm sorry, I -- What's going on here? 139 00:07:44,498 --> 00:07:46,800 This -- This doesn't change anything, all right? 140 00:07:46,834 --> 00:07:48,636 I heard you. I want to help you. 141 00:07:48,669 --> 00:07:50,538 Help him? He's a wreck because of you. 142 00:07:50,571 --> 00:07:52,840 You can't go back on this now. You know that. 143 00:07:52,873 --> 00:07:54,642 The only way out of this is through. 144 00:07:54,675 --> 00:07:55,976 Please come with me now. 145 00:07:56,009 --> 00:07:57,144 Please? -Come with you? 146 00:07:57,177 --> 00:07:59,146 Ryan, please! 147 00:07:59,179 --> 00:08:00,981 Chance: I don't know if he actually wanted to stop. 148 00:08:01,014 --> 00:08:02,850 You know what people do that don't want to stop? 149 00:08:02,883 --> 00:08:04,985 They keep fucking going. 150 00:08:05,018 --> 00:08:06,854 -He wants you to leave. -He didn't say that. 151 00:08:06,887 --> 00:08:08,388 He doesn't need to. 152 00:08:08,421 --> 00:08:09,389 What? 153 00:08:09,422 --> 00:08:11,792 Maybe I should call 911. 154 00:08:11,825 --> 00:08:15,729 Go ahead. Let's get the police here. 155 00:08:15,763 --> 00:08:17,665 You're awfully confident. 156 00:08:17,698 --> 00:08:19,366 Wonder why that is. 157 00:08:22,235 --> 00:08:23,871 You're ready? 158 00:08:23,904 --> 00:08:25,372 Let's call them. 159 00:08:26,574 --> 00:08:28,275 [ Sighs ] 160 00:08:31,244 --> 00:08:33,513 I didn't get him to turn himself in, 161 00:08:33,547 --> 00:08:34,882 I didn't get him to admit anything 162 00:08:34,915 --> 00:08:36,817 that I could legally take to the police. 163 00:08:36,850 --> 00:08:38,819 I should've -- 164 00:08:38,852 --> 00:08:40,588 My head was just fill-- I wanted to... 165 00:08:40,621 --> 00:08:42,422 Hynes: What? Get yourself arrested? 166 00:08:42,455 --> 00:08:46,326 Fuck that. You played it the way you could. 167 00:08:46,359 --> 00:08:48,929 And you -- you didn't blow it. You got us a name -- Catherine. 168 00:08:48,962 --> 00:08:51,431 I've never heard of any unsolved Catherines. 169 00:08:51,464 --> 00:08:53,200 Maybe they never found her body. 170 00:08:53,233 --> 00:08:56,069 Or maybe she's one of the bodies out in the Headlands, even. 171 00:08:56,103 --> 00:08:58,772 I'm gonna look into that. 172 00:08:58,806 --> 00:09:02,209 -Look into it how? -Well, I mean, I'm -- 173 00:09:02,242 --> 00:09:04,344 I'm gonna look into having someone look into it for me. 174 00:09:04,377 --> 00:09:07,547 I've got this friend Frank at the D.A.'s office 175 00:09:07,581 --> 00:09:09,683 who doesn't completely hate me yet -- 176 00:09:09,717 --> 00:09:11,885 I c-- I can ask him. 177 00:09:13,420 --> 00:09:15,589 Oh, and speaking of looking into things, 178 00:09:15,623 --> 00:09:17,625 that fucking Lyndsay, 179 00:09:17,658 --> 00:09:20,127 I looked into her way back when, and nothing. 180 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:21,929 Where is she from? 181 00:09:21,962 --> 00:09:24,397 Uh, Connecticut or some shit. Why? 182 00:09:24,431 --> 00:09:27,400 I don't know. Just grasping at straws, I guess. 183 00:09:29,169 --> 00:09:31,204 Maybe Winter doesn't have any involvement 184 00:09:31,238 --> 00:09:33,073 with Stevie Benjamin's death. 185 00:09:33,106 --> 00:09:36,209 Oh, well, this is -- Christ. 186 00:09:36,243 --> 00:09:38,245 Maybe he just had a morbid fascination with it, 187 00:09:38,278 --> 00:09:41,081 from growing up close by. 188 00:09:41,114 --> 00:09:42,883 Maybe the rock that D found in his house 189 00:09:42,916 --> 00:09:44,417 doesn't have the significance we thought it did. 190 00:09:44,451 --> 00:09:46,319 Maybe since we're dreaming, I'd like a pony. 191 00:09:46,353 --> 00:09:47,921 I know. I-I agree. 192 00:09:47,955 --> 00:09:49,790 I'm just saying, if we're not dreaming, if we are right, 193 00:09:49,823 --> 00:09:53,226 then we still don't actually know who that DNA belongs to. 194 00:09:53,260 --> 00:09:55,095 No, we don't, do we? 195 00:09:56,596 --> 00:10:01,401 So, Winter admitted that his... 196 00:10:01,434 --> 00:10:04,905 coping mechanism is killing. 197 00:10:04,938 --> 00:10:07,975 And he also admitted that it's not working anymore. 198 00:10:08,008 --> 00:10:11,244 I don't even want to think about how he came to that conclusion. 199 00:10:11,278 --> 00:10:13,413 I've got enough on my conscience as it is. 200 00:10:13,446 --> 00:10:16,684 Right now, my focus has to be to get him back. 201 00:10:18,218 --> 00:10:19,853 You know, when I was sitting opposite him, 202 00:10:19,887 --> 00:10:22,690 he was rambling on about dealing out death... 203 00:10:24,191 --> 00:10:26,259 ...I thought about dealing it right back at him. 204 00:10:26,293 --> 00:10:29,096 More than once. 205 00:10:29,129 --> 00:10:32,766 I don't know how you do it, all those years. 206 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,003 Sitting opposite killers, encouraging them, 207 00:10:36,036 --> 00:10:37,938 getting them to elaborate without -- 208 00:10:37,971 --> 00:10:40,173 Stabbing them in the fucking eye? 209 00:10:40,207 --> 00:10:44,644 ** 210 00:10:44,678 --> 00:10:45,846 Let me tell you something. 211 00:10:45,879 --> 00:10:47,347 You know how many times 212 00:10:47,380 --> 00:10:50,017 I pulled out my piece in the line of duty? 213 00:10:50,050 --> 00:10:53,053 7 -- 26 years. 214 00:10:53,086 --> 00:10:54,621 You know how many times I've shot it? 215 00:10:54,654 --> 00:10:55,823 Once. 216 00:10:55,856 --> 00:10:58,525 You know how many people I've killed? 217 00:10:58,558 --> 00:11:01,194 None. 218 00:11:01,228 --> 00:11:03,130 If you're not acting in self-defense, 219 00:11:03,163 --> 00:11:05,298 or the active defense of someone else, 220 00:11:05,332 --> 00:11:08,135 then you're a fucking murderer. 221 00:11:08,168 --> 00:11:09,803 Ryan Winter is a murderer. 222 00:11:09,837 --> 00:11:13,673 And that's who he wants to be. 223 00:11:13,707 --> 00:11:16,176 I'm not gonna be like him. 224 00:11:16,209 --> 00:11:19,012 We have a deal. 225 00:11:19,046 --> 00:11:21,982 Ryan Winter in front of the bar of justice, 226 00:11:22,015 --> 00:11:24,484 to bare all before the whole world. 227 00:11:24,517 --> 00:11:27,520 I'm gonna do this the right way. 228 00:11:27,554 --> 00:11:29,857 Not Ryan Winter's way. 229 00:11:29,890 --> 00:11:34,561 ** 230 00:11:34,594 --> 00:11:36,764 And your super-sized friend? 231 00:11:39,632 --> 00:11:44,037 I'm sure he's gonna be asking the same question. 232 00:11:44,071 --> 00:11:46,239 So, you're gonna have to tell him that we -- 233 00:11:46,273 --> 00:11:48,675 we have a deal. 234 00:11:48,708 --> 00:11:53,246 ** 235 00:11:59,719 --> 00:12:01,922 Stone: His parole officer called me, told me he'd been working 236 00:12:01,955 --> 00:12:05,725 in a 24-hour garage in Daly City for about the last month. 237 00:12:05,759 --> 00:12:08,695 Called over and talked to the manager. And? 238 00:12:08,728 --> 00:12:11,398 And Pardo's not the most popular guy there. 239 00:12:11,431 --> 00:12:13,533 So when some big bald guy showed up recently 240 00:12:13,566 --> 00:12:16,603 and gave him a beatdown, nobody was that surprised. 241 00:12:16,636 --> 00:12:18,271 Or sad. 242 00:12:18,305 --> 00:12:20,407 Broke a bunch of bones, put him in the hospital. 243 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:21,975 When he got out, 244 00:12:22,009 --> 00:12:23,576 went to live with his sister in Castro Valley. 245 00:12:26,146 --> 00:12:28,248 So, uh, what's the deal? 246 00:12:28,281 --> 00:12:30,383 Who's this Pardo guy to you? 247 00:12:30,417 --> 00:12:35,889 ** 248 00:12:35,923 --> 00:12:37,891 [ Men grunting ] 249 00:12:37,925 --> 00:12:39,927 [ Sticks clacking ] 250 00:12:43,596 --> 00:12:45,465 D: Hinto. 251 00:12:47,767 --> 00:12:49,436 Mass attack. 252 00:12:51,138 --> 00:12:52,539 I need six guys. 253 00:12:55,108 --> 00:12:57,044 I want you to come at me, hard. 254 00:12:58,611 --> 00:13:00,313 I want you to really try to hurt me. 255 00:13:00,347 --> 00:13:03,283 And I'm gonna really try to hurt you. 256 00:13:06,286 --> 00:13:08,521 Ready? 257 00:13:08,555 --> 00:13:12,125 * I can see for miles -I'm taking this dog. 258 00:13:12,159 --> 00:13:14,261 -No! Please. He's mine! -You can't take care of it, man. 259 00:13:14,294 --> 00:13:15,929 You know that. This is an animal abuse. 260 00:13:15,963 --> 00:13:17,497 -Hey, come on, man. -That's his dog. 261 00:13:17,530 --> 00:13:19,299 Woman: Yeah, well, he can't help himself. 262 00:13:19,332 --> 00:13:21,034 How's he gonna help the dog? -No, please! 263 00:13:21,068 --> 00:13:23,503 Put your phones away. It deserves to be protected. 264 00:13:23,536 --> 00:13:25,472 It deserves a home! -Hey! You're hurting him! 265 00:13:25,505 --> 00:13:28,942 -Hey, watch it. -No! 266 00:13:28,976 --> 00:13:31,044 [ Crying ] 267 00:13:31,078 --> 00:13:33,947 Man: Get their plates. 268 00:13:33,981 --> 00:13:35,949 Ohh! 269 00:13:35,983 --> 00:13:39,619 [ Crying continues ] 270 00:13:39,652 --> 00:13:44,324 Woman #2: Who does that? 271 00:13:44,357 --> 00:13:47,027 [ Indistinct conversations ] 272 00:13:47,060 --> 00:13:57,037 * Angel just above the grid 273 00:13:57,070 --> 00:14:03,176 ** 274 00:14:03,210 --> 00:14:11,084 * Open, smiling, reach out 275 00:14:11,118 --> 00:14:19,759 ** 276 00:14:20,894 --> 00:14:22,429 [ Door closes ] 277 00:14:26,633 --> 00:14:29,869 [ Grunts ] 278 00:14:31,871 --> 00:14:33,173 Hey. 279 00:14:33,206 --> 00:14:36,076 Dad's not here. 280 00:14:36,109 --> 00:14:37,177 I know. 281 00:14:37,210 --> 00:14:38,711 Futon's all yours again. 282 00:14:38,745 --> 00:14:40,680 [ Zippers zipping ] 283 00:14:40,713 --> 00:14:42,515 -Hey, you okay? -Yep. 284 00:14:42,549 --> 00:14:44,884 -You get in a fight? -Nope. 285 00:14:46,653 --> 00:14:48,288 What are you working on? 286 00:14:51,791 --> 00:14:53,693 This morning, I saw this rich couple 287 00:14:53,726 --> 00:14:55,595 steal a homeless guy's dog. 288 00:14:55,628 --> 00:14:57,230 At least they looked like they were rich. 289 00:14:57,264 --> 00:14:59,032 So mean and shitty. 290 00:14:59,066 --> 00:15:01,969 They just yanked it right out of his arms and drove away. 291 00:15:02,002 --> 00:15:04,204 We all just stood there watching. 292 00:15:04,237 --> 00:15:06,139 Or even worse, filming it. 293 00:15:06,173 --> 00:15:07,574 How fucked up is that? 294 00:15:07,607 --> 00:15:09,476 -Pretty fucked up. -Yeah. 295 00:15:09,509 --> 00:15:12,245 So, anyway, I'm trying to find them 296 00:15:12,279 --> 00:15:14,547 through the gross magic of social media. 297 00:15:14,581 --> 00:15:16,950 [ Keyboard clacking ] 298 00:15:16,984 --> 00:15:19,286 The rich hipster couple. -To do what? 299 00:15:19,319 --> 00:15:21,321 I don't know. Talk to them. 300 00:15:21,354 --> 00:15:23,090 Say if they let me take the dog back, 301 00:15:23,123 --> 00:15:24,992 I'll keep an eye on it if they're worried, 302 00:15:25,025 --> 00:15:27,160 make sure it gets its shots and whatever. 303 00:15:27,194 --> 00:15:31,131 That way, everyone can get what they want. 304 00:15:31,164 --> 00:15:34,301 These rich people you're talking about -- 305 00:15:34,334 --> 00:15:36,169 they have what they want. 306 00:15:36,203 --> 00:15:38,271 They don't care about you. 307 00:15:39,806 --> 00:15:42,142 Before you even open your mouth, 308 00:15:42,175 --> 00:15:44,044 you'll be wasting their time. 309 00:15:45,678 --> 00:15:47,347 You can plan shit out in your head. 310 00:15:48,681 --> 00:15:50,683 Everything you want to do and say -- 311 00:15:50,717 --> 00:15:53,920 everything you think the other guy might do or say. 312 00:15:53,953 --> 00:15:55,989 But when you get to it, 313 00:15:56,023 --> 00:15:58,658 nothing is like you planned. 314 00:15:58,691 --> 00:16:00,160 Ever. 315 00:16:00,193 --> 00:16:02,695 Okay. 316 00:16:02,729 --> 00:16:05,632 If I left anything here that you find, just throw it away. 317 00:16:05,665 --> 00:16:09,102 ** 318 00:16:09,136 --> 00:16:12,439 [ Door opens, closes ] 319 00:16:12,472 --> 00:16:16,676 [ Indistinct conversations ] 320 00:16:16,709 --> 00:16:19,046 Hey, I got it. I got it. Thanks. 321 00:16:19,079 --> 00:16:20,880 Knock, knock. 322 00:16:20,913 --> 00:16:22,515 -Kev. -Frank. 323 00:16:22,549 --> 00:16:23,883 My man. 324 00:16:23,916 --> 00:16:25,552 That thing you're working on pan out? 325 00:16:25,585 --> 00:16:27,320 What's up? -Yeah. No. 326 00:16:27,354 --> 00:16:29,822 We had a little setback there, but we're still on track. 327 00:16:29,856 --> 00:16:32,559 Uh-huh. But, in the meantime, I could use a favor. 328 00:16:32,592 --> 00:16:33,993 Well, a couple of them, actually. 329 00:16:34,027 --> 00:16:36,196 [ Chuckles ] Jesus wept. 330 00:16:36,229 --> 00:16:39,399 Katherine Atkins. -Mm. Mother of two. 331 00:16:39,432 --> 00:16:42,902 And the DOJ website reported her missing in 2005 332 00:16:42,935 --> 00:16:44,504 in, uh, Alameda County. 333 00:16:44,537 --> 00:16:47,840 So I called Alameda PD and got the run-around. 334 00:16:47,874 --> 00:16:50,377 And long story short, they found a body, 335 00:16:50,410 --> 00:16:52,179 but they won't tell me shit. 336 00:16:52,212 --> 00:16:53,846 Well, like, what do you want to know? 337 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,015 Well, for starters, I'd like to know how she died. 338 00:16:56,049 --> 00:17:00,353 And also, whether there were, uh, rocks in her throat. 339 00:17:02,589 --> 00:17:06,759 Okay. I'm not even -- Yeah, I can make a call. Okay. 340 00:17:06,793 --> 00:17:08,528 What else? 341 00:17:08,561 --> 00:17:10,163 You, uh, know somebody 342 00:17:10,197 --> 00:17:11,564 in the State's Attorney's office 343 00:17:11,598 --> 00:17:13,700 in Bridgeport, right? 344 00:17:13,733 --> 00:17:15,034 In Bridgeport? 345 00:17:15,068 --> 00:17:16,503 You're talking Bridgeport, Connecticut? 346 00:17:16,536 --> 00:17:18,037 -Yes. -Jesus Christ, buddy. 347 00:17:18,071 --> 00:17:21,241 You are -- You are all over the map today. 348 00:17:21,274 --> 00:17:23,042 Yes, I do. Why? 349 00:17:23,076 --> 00:17:25,345 Great. Can you ask them to run that sheet? 350 00:17:25,378 --> 00:17:27,680 I'm looking for any expunged criminal records. 351 00:17:27,714 --> 00:17:29,849 I mean, I -- Look, I ran her a few years ago, 352 00:17:29,882 --> 00:17:32,585 but I only did it in California, so... 353 00:17:32,619 --> 00:17:34,787 Who's Lyndsay Hamilton? 354 00:17:34,821 --> 00:17:37,424 Well, she's, uh, Winter's assistant. 355 00:17:37,457 --> 00:17:38,858 -Wint-- Come on. -Yeah, I know. 356 00:17:38,891 --> 00:17:40,793 -Kevin, why? -I know, but listen to me. 357 00:17:40,827 --> 00:17:42,962 I'm just thinking maybe Winter had some help along the way. 358 00:17:42,995 --> 00:17:44,964 So let's just leave it at that. -No, but that's just it. 359 00:17:44,997 --> 00:17:49,102 Help with what? And...based on what? 360 00:17:52,839 --> 00:17:54,474 Kevin, not for nothing, 361 00:17:54,507 --> 00:17:58,711 but being your friend is like having a goddamn colonoscopy. 362 00:17:58,745 --> 00:18:00,747 Please, Frank? 363 00:18:00,780 --> 00:18:03,250 I need your help. Please. 364 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,622 Okay. 365 00:18:09,656 --> 00:18:11,057 Thank you. 366 00:18:11,090 --> 00:18:12,292 Appreciate it. 367 00:18:12,325 --> 00:18:13,760 -Now leave me alone? -Yes. 368 00:18:13,793 --> 00:18:16,663 -Please? -For today, I will. 369 00:18:16,696 --> 00:18:18,998 Thanks again, Frank. 370 00:18:20,167 --> 00:18:22,635 [ Line ringing ] 371 00:18:22,669 --> 00:18:24,837 Hi. This is Ryan. Leave a message. 372 00:18:24,871 --> 00:18:26,273 [ Beep ] 373 00:18:26,306 --> 00:18:29,476 Ryan, it's Eldon Chance here again. 374 00:18:29,509 --> 00:18:31,511 Please call me. 375 00:18:31,544 --> 00:18:33,680 Please reach out, okay? 376 00:18:33,713 --> 00:18:35,782 I-I-I need to know you're all right. 377 00:18:35,815 --> 00:18:39,619 I'm here to help you. I want to help you. 378 00:18:39,652 --> 00:18:42,121 Okay. 379 00:18:42,155 --> 00:18:48,661 ** 380 00:18:48,695 --> 00:18:51,498 [ Cellphone rings ] 381 00:18:53,866 --> 00:18:54,967 Ryan? 382 00:18:55,001 --> 00:18:58,037 Lyndsay: Stop calling him! 383 00:18:58,070 --> 00:19:02,442 Lyndsay, Mr. Winter is in a fragile state right now. 384 00:19:02,475 --> 00:19:04,344 He needs constant medical supervision. 385 00:19:04,377 --> 00:19:07,614 It's possible he might hurt himself or someone else. 386 00:19:07,647 --> 00:19:10,450 I will lodge a formal complaint with the state medical board. 387 00:19:10,483 --> 00:19:11,951 I get it. You care about him. 388 00:19:11,984 --> 00:19:14,053 So do I. We're on the same side here. 389 00:19:14,086 --> 00:19:16,556 you will lose your license, face charges. 390 00:19:16,589 --> 00:19:17,890 Should I keep going? 391 00:19:17,924 --> 00:19:20,227 Listen, if anything happens to him, 392 00:19:20,260 --> 00:19:21,828 you could be held responsible. 393 00:19:21,861 --> 00:19:24,864 I am trying my best to be civil, Dr. Chance. 394 00:19:24,897 --> 00:19:29,035 You don't want to see what happens when I stop. 395 00:19:29,068 --> 00:19:32,339 Or maybe I do, Lyndsay. 396 00:19:32,372 --> 00:19:34,741 Maybe that way, I'll find out what it is you're hiding. 397 00:19:34,774 --> 00:19:39,912 ** 398 00:19:43,416 --> 00:19:45,952 [ Woman speaking indistinctly on PA ] 399 00:19:49,856 --> 00:19:50,957 -Hey. -Hey. 400 00:19:56,062 --> 00:19:59,766 [ Sighs ] 401 00:19:59,799 --> 00:20:02,101 So, full disclosure? 402 00:20:02,134 --> 00:20:05,605 That could mean almost anything, but sure. 403 00:20:07,307 --> 00:20:08,708 I found Wade Pardo. 404 00:20:08,741 --> 00:20:11,444 Okay? 405 00:20:11,478 --> 00:20:13,246 I know you said you thought he wouldn't come back here, 406 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,348 but still. 407 00:20:15,382 --> 00:20:18,718 I asked a cop friend of mine to try and track him down. 408 00:20:18,751 --> 00:20:20,587 In case. 409 00:20:22,422 --> 00:20:23,823 And what'd you find out? 410 00:20:26,293 --> 00:20:28,761 He was working in Daly City, at a garage, 411 00:20:28,795 --> 00:20:31,431 and then somebody showed up and threw him a beatdown. 412 00:20:31,464 --> 00:20:32,965 Broke a lot of bones. 413 00:20:32,999 --> 00:20:35,935 Not too long after his run-in with you. 414 00:20:35,968 --> 00:20:38,905 Same thing happened to Matty Willis a couple weeks ago. 415 00:20:40,473 --> 00:20:41,774 He's the guy who broke into 416 00:20:41,808 --> 00:20:43,576 Clara Santiago's apartment and raped her. 417 00:20:43,610 --> 00:20:45,144 I think that the charge was dropped 418 00:20:45,177 --> 00:20:48,114 on an illegal search issue. 419 00:20:48,147 --> 00:20:49,582 But Clara came and told me that -- 420 00:20:49,616 --> 00:20:52,452 that Matty'd been robbed, he'd been stabbed. 421 00:20:52,485 --> 00:20:55,888 He survived, but one of the nerves in his arm was severed. 422 00:20:55,922 --> 00:20:58,257 Really? I didn't hear about that. 423 00:20:58,291 --> 00:21:01,494 Well, honestly, if we followed up 424 00:21:01,528 --> 00:21:03,730 on every person who put a patient in here, 425 00:21:03,763 --> 00:21:05,332 I think we'd find the percentage of them 426 00:21:05,365 --> 00:21:07,066 volunteering in soup kitchens 427 00:21:07,099 --> 00:21:09,936 and helping old ladies across the street would be pretty low. 428 00:21:11,203 --> 00:21:14,641 Those who live by the sword, die by the sword, I guess. 429 00:21:14,674 --> 00:21:16,843 Or get maimed by the sword. 430 00:21:16,876 --> 00:21:19,178 And our job is to deal with the fallout. 431 00:21:19,211 --> 00:21:22,715 And we've got enough fallout to last the rest of our lives. 432 00:21:24,684 --> 00:21:27,687 Speaking of which... [ Exhales shakily ] 433 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,189 Didn't you come in to get coffee? 434 00:21:31,891 --> 00:21:34,427 Yeah, I did. 435 00:21:34,461 --> 00:21:35,962 Obviously I need it. 436 00:21:35,995 --> 00:21:38,898 [ Chuckles ] 437 00:21:40,232 --> 00:21:43,836 [ Keyboard clacking ] 438 00:21:45,738 --> 00:21:48,140 ** 439 00:21:48,174 --> 00:21:50,777 -Come on. -How's he gonna help the dog? 440 00:21:50,810 --> 00:21:52,445 Put your phones away. -What gives you the right? 441 00:21:52,479 --> 00:21:56,115 [ Dog barks ] -You're hurting him! 442 00:21:56,148 --> 00:21:59,486 [ Indistinct chatter ] 443 00:21:59,519 --> 00:22:00,987 Man: Crazy messed up. Get the plates. 444 00:22:01,020 --> 00:22:03,823 Woman: Ohh. 445 00:22:03,856 --> 00:22:06,659 [ Keyboard clacking ] 446 00:22:06,693 --> 00:22:08,194 Woman: What the hell? 447 00:22:08,227 --> 00:22:09,462 Man: No, no! 448 00:22:09,496 --> 00:22:11,163 Go, go, go! 449 00:22:11,197 --> 00:22:12,565 Stop it! 450 00:22:12,599 --> 00:22:14,667 Man #2: Crazy messed up. Get the plates. 451 00:22:14,701 --> 00:22:24,010 ** 452 00:22:24,043 --> 00:22:33,352 ** 453 00:22:33,386 --> 00:22:42,662 ** 454 00:22:42,695 --> 00:22:52,004 ** 455 00:22:52,038 --> 00:23:01,380 ** 456 00:23:03,883 --> 00:23:05,952 Oh, that's closed now. 457 00:23:05,985 --> 00:23:08,120 It was up on 18th. 458 00:23:08,154 --> 00:23:10,890 It's the only place I could go. 459 00:23:10,923 --> 00:23:13,259 Come on, there weren't any other gay bars 460 00:23:13,292 --> 00:23:15,061 in the Castro in the '70s? 461 00:23:15,094 --> 00:23:18,064 The only place a black man could go. Ah. 462 00:23:18,097 --> 00:23:20,533 Besides Oakland. 463 00:23:20,567 --> 00:23:23,770 Ah. So what happened? 464 00:23:26,105 --> 00:23:29,241 I became... [Sighs] 465 00:23:29,275 --> 00:23:31,578 incautious. 466 00:23:31,611 --> 00:23:33,045 If once a week was fine, 467 00:23:33,079 --> 00:23:35,648 four times a week was that much better. 468 00:23:35,682 --> 00:23:39,218 Mm-hmm. I told myself, before I told Olivia, 469 00:23:39,251 --> 00:23:41,888 I was trying to find what exactly it was 470 00:23:41,921 --> 00:23:43,923 that I was telling her. 471 00:23:43,956 --> 00:23:47,293 And while I was finding out, she found me out. 472 00:23:47,326 --> 00:23:48,995 Oh. 473 00:23:49,028 --> 00:23:53,265 Took Alvin to her mother's and followed me to the Pendulum. 474 00:23:53,299 --> 00:23:55,735 Oh, shit. 475 00:23:55,768 --> 00:23:58,738 It was a betrayal, no question. 476 00:23:58,771 --> 00:24:01,307 Made worse by having been discovered, 477 00:24:01,340 --> 00:24:03,175 rather than confessed. 478 00:24:05,311 --> 00:24:08,147 So, you -- you never thought about just giving it up? 479 00:24:08,180 --> 00:24:10,449 I mean, pretending that it never happened 480 00:24:10,483 --> 00:24:12,685 and saying it was a mistake? 481 00:24:12,719 --> 00:24:16,288 You can't close your eyes once they've been opened. 482 00:24:16,322 --> 00:24:19,391 [ Groans ] 483 00:24:20,793 --> 00:24:23,996 No, you can't. 484 00:24:24,030 --> 00:24:27,333 You know, you may not be a married man with a child, 485 00:24:27,366 --> 00:24:29,168 but still. 486 00:24:29,201 --> 00:24:31,103 People are going to look at you differently, 487 00:24:31,137 --> 00:24:32,839 and that's fine. 488 00:24:32,872 --> 00:24:36,208 If you are strong in yourself. 489 00:24:36,242 --> 00:24:39,178 And, Kevin, I see that you are. 490 00:24:39,211 --> 00:24:41,380 You are strong. 491 00:24:41,413 --> 00:24:44,350 You are ready. 492 00:24:44,383 --> 00:24:46,986 You are a treasure in a jar of clay. 493 00:24:49,055 --> 00:24:50,723 -Yeah? -[ Chuckles ] 494 00:24:50,757 --> 00:24:52,458 Yes, indeed. 495 00:24:52,491 --> 00:24:56,395 Pressed on all sides, but not crushed. 496 00:24:56,428 --> 00:24:59,899 Perplexed, but not in despair. 497 00:24:59,932 --> 00:25:03,803 Persecuted, but never forsaken. 498 00:25:03,836 --> 00:25:07,406 Struck down, but never destroyed. 499 00:25:07,439 --> 00:25:09,041 Now... 500 00:25:09,075 --> 00:25:10,743 have another cup of tea. 501 00:25:14,380 --> 00:25:16,248 Yeah. 502 00:25:16,282 --> 00:25:17,850 Ahh. 503 00:25:17,884 --> 00:25:19,185 Mm-hmm. 504 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:21,420 Woman: Yeah, you need to stretch more. 505 00:25:21,453 --> 00:25:23,189 I don't know why guys don't stretch. 506 00:25:23,222 --> 00:25:25,391 [ Speaking indistinctly ] 507 00:25:25,424 --> 00:25:35,034 ** 508 00:25:35,067 --> 00:25:44,611 ** 509 00:25:44,644 --> 00:25:54,253 ** 510 00:25:54,286 --> 00:26:03,896 ** 511 00:26:03,930 --> 00:26:13,539 ** 512 00:26:13,572 --> 00:26:23,115 ** 513 00:26:23,149 --> 00:26:32,759 ** 514 00:26:32,792 --> 00:26:35,261 [ Dog barking ] 515 00:26:35,294 --> 00:26:36,963 ** 516 00:26:36,996 --> 00:26:38,497 [ Chuckles lightly ] 517 00:26:38,530 --> 00:26:41,333 [ Gasps, laughs ] 518 00:26:41,367 --> 00:26:44,003 Oh, yeah! 519 00:26:44,036 --> 00:26:45,571 Oh, my God! 520 00:26:45,604 --> 00:26:48,107 Where'd you come from, huh? Huh? Huh? 521 00:26:48,140 --> 00:26:54,413 [ Laughs ] 522 00:26:54,446 --> 00:26:57,950 Oh, I'm so glad to have you back. 523 00:26:58,851 --> 00:27:00,987 Chance: So, you're here again? 524 00:27:01,020 --> 00:27:03,823 Safe to come back now? 525 00:27:03,856 --> 00:27:05,224 All good, brother. 526 00:27:08,695 --> 00:27:10,329 Say it. 527 00:27:10,362 --> 00:27:11,664 Your face. 528 00:27:11,698 --> 00:27:13,165 I needed to work something out. 529 00:27:13,199 --> 00:27:15,434 Something that didn't feel finished. 530 00:27:15,467 --> 00:27:17,036 So I did. 531 00:27:17,069 --> 00:27:18,771 And it does. 532 00:27:18,805 --> 00:27:22,108 Winter. You get back with him yet? 533 00:27:22,141 --> 00:27:24,844 No, not yet. It's not for want of trying. 534 00:27:24,877 --> 00:27:27,346 I drove by his place, I left a ton of messages. 535 00:27:27,379 --> 00:27:29,515 Why is he stonewalling now? 536 00:27:29,548 --> 00:27:31,617 Oh, it's Lyndsay who's doing the stonewalling. 537 00:27:31,650 --> 00:27:33,052 I don't know what Winter's doing. 538 00:27:33,085 --> 00:27:35,154 Fucking Eva Braun. 539 00:27:35,187 --> 00:27:37,623 I hope Hynes can dig something up on her. 540 00:27:37,656 --> 00:27:39,391 Yeah, so do I, 541 00:27:39,425 --> 00:27:41,027 but that doesn't help me right now. 542 00:27:41,060 --> 00:27:44,196 Right now the problem is that she's denying me access. 543 00:27:44,230 --> 00:27:46,866 Every hour that passes is an hour lost. 544 00:27:46,899 --> 00:27:48,467 Winter could change his story, 545 00:27:48,500 --> 00:27:51,370 change his mind, he can end the game. 546 00:27:54,707 --> 00:27:59,011 Unless... 547 00:27:59,045 --> 00:28:02,514 Unless we can separate the sheep from the sheepdog. 548 00:28:05,351 --> 00:28:06,819 Awesome. 549 00:28:10,757 --> 00:28:13,826 Woman: There is the instance where a monk, 550 00:28:13,860 --> 00:28:16,162 having gone into the wilderness, 551 00:28:16,195 --> 00:28:19,398 sits down under the shade of a tree, 552 00:28:19,431 --> 00:28:24,503 setting mindfulness to the fore. 553 00:28:24,536 --> 00:28:26,172 Always mindful, 554 00:28:26,205 --> 00:28:29,175 he breathes in. 555 00:28:29,208 --> 00:28:30,877 Always mindful, 556 00:28:30,910 --> 00:28:33,045 he breathes out. 557 00:28:35,214 --> 00:28:39,685 Always mindful... [ Cellphone vibrating ] 558 00:28:39,718 --> 00:28:41,187 Yes? 559 00:28:41,220 --> 00:28:43,722 Hynes: Hey, Lyndsay. 560 00:28:43,756 --> 00:28:45,457 Who is this? 561 00:28:45,491 --> 00:28:48,027 Well, you filed the complaint that got me fired -- 562 00:28:48,060 --> 00:28:50,029 seems like you should know who I am. 563 00:28:50,062 --> 00:28:52,464 You got yourself fired. 564 00:28:52,498 --> 00:28:56,135 Now, it seems you want to get yourself arrested, as well. 565 00:28:56,168 --> 00:28:58,070 Crazy, right? 566 00:28:58,104 --> 00:28:59,872 What the fuck am I thinking? 567 00:28:59,906 --> 00:29:02,741 Don't you ever wonder? -Don't I ever wonder what? 568 00:29:02,775 --> 00:29:04,543 What I'm thinking. 569 00:29:04,576 --> 00:29:06,612 Why I would throw away a 30-year career 570 00:29:06,645 --> 00:29:10,382 and let my life go to shit over your boss? 571 00:29:10,416 --> 00:29:13,119 Or what I might know that you don't? 572 00:29:13,152 --> 00:29:17,156 Come meet me right now and I'll tell you what you don't know. 573 00:29:17,189 --> 00:29:19,325 I'll even let you pick the place. 574 00:29:19,358 --> 00:29:22,661 Public place if it makes you feel safer. 575 00:29:22,694 --> 00:29:24,396 But pick it right now. 576 00:29:24,430 --> 00:29:26,498 Before I change my mind. 577 00:29:26,532 --> 00:29:29,201 Or you'll never get the answers you've always wanted. 578 00:29:32,872 --> 00:29:34,974 He's in his room. Mr. Winter. 579 00:29:35,007 --> 00:29:37,743 I have to run out, but I'll be back soon. 580 00:29:37,776 --> 00:29:40,412 I'm going to end this insanity once and for all. 581 00:29:40,446 --> 00:29:43,482 Just call me if you need me, but don't leave. 582 00:29:43,515 --> 00:29:45,952 And don't let anyone in. 583 00:29:50,389 --> 00:29:52,458 Man on TV: Easiest non-cheese mac and cheese... 584 00:29:52,491 --> 00:29:54,994 [ Pounding on door ] Christina: Nic, are you in there? 585 00:29:55,027 --> 00:29:57,363 [ Pounding continues ] Nicole, open the door! 586 00:29:57,396 --> 00:30:00,132 ... packed full of nutrients, proteins... 587 00:30:00,166 --> 00:30:02,368 [ Pounding continues ] Nic, open the door! 588 00:30:02,401 --> 00:30:04,670 [ Pounding continues ] 589 00:30:04,703 --> 00:30:05,938 Hey. 590 00:30:05,972 --> 00:30:07,373 Why didn't you answer your phone? 591 00:30:07,406 --> 00:30:09,041 I-I don't know. It's charging in the kitchen. 592 00:30:09,075 --> 00:30:10,709 Why? What's wrong? 593 00:30:10,742 --> 00:30:12,511 Don't worry. It's gonna be fine. 594 00:30:12,544 --> 00:30:15,014 I hired a lawyer and he's gonna meet us down there, okay? 595 00:30:15,047 --> 00:30:16,548 We will figure this out. Don't worry. 596 00:30:16,582 --> 00:30:18,384 Mom, don't worry about what? 597 00:30:21,921 --> 00:30:24,023 M-Mom, they stole his dog! 598 00:30:24,056 --> 00:30:25,724 I-I just took it back to him. I never did -- 599 00:30:25,757 --> 00:30:27,526 I promise! Nic, what are you saying? Stop talking. 600 00:30:27,559 --> 00:30:30,196 Nicole Chance, you're under arrest for aggravated assault. 601 00:30:30,229 --> 00:30:33,565 Please place your hands behind your back. 602 00:30:33,599 --> 00:30:35,634 Pepper's parents are pressing charges. 603 00:30:35,667 --> 00:30:38,304 It's gonna be fine. I-I promise. 604 00:30:38,337 --> 00:30:40,272 We'll figure this out. 605 00:30:43,375 --> 00:30:46,712 [ Indistinct conversations ] 606 00:30:46,745 --> 00:30:49,348 [ Door opens ] 607 00:30:49,381 --> 00:30:51,183 [ Door closes ] 608 00:30:57,523 --> 00:31:04,263 ** 609 00:31:04,296 --> 00:31:07,066 Hynes: Ramona Marquez, 34, one son -- 610 00:31:07,099 --> 00:31:08,734 he cut her throat. 611 00:31:10,469 --> 00:31:14,273 Ivy Maitland, 31. 612 00:31:14,306 --> 00:31:15,774 She had a son. 613 00:31:15,807 --> 00:31:17,609 He cut her throat. 614 00:31:19,445 --> 00:31:23,916 And Josefa Pefaur, 30. 615 00:31:23,950 --> 00:31:26,953 Twin girls and a baby on the way. 616 00:31:26,986 --> 00:31:29,121 Winter met her in group therapy, 617 00:31:29,155 --> 00:31:31,757 at the Victims of Violent Crime Unit. 618 00:31:31,790 --> 00:31:32,992 Cut her throat. 619 00:31:36,495 --> 00:31:39,765 Katherine, Travis, Su Yee, 620 00:31:39,798 --> 00:31:44,303 Leigh Ann, Ramona, Ivy, and Josefa. 621 00:31:44,336 --> 00:31:46,605 That's as many as I'm sure of. 622 00:31:46,638 --> 00:31:50,109 And I don't believe that that's all there are. 623 00:31:50,142 --> 00:31:53,645 So...these are things you think I need to hear? 624 00:31:53,679 --> 00:31:55,481 No. 625 00:31:55,514 --> 00:31:58,350 Those are the things that everyone needs to hear. 626 00:32:01,587 --> 00:32:03,455 When Winter was 4 years old, 627 00:32:03,489 --> 00:32:07,059 his name was Matthew Debbs. 628 00:32:07,093 --> 00:32:10,329 This is a picture of his mother, Amy. 629 00:32:12,331 --> 00:32:14,300 When Amy was 33 years old, 630 00:32:14,333 --> 00:32:18,304 she tried to kill herself by cutting her own throat. 631 00:32:18,337 --> 00:32:19,771 But it didn't work. 632 00:32:21,540 --> 00:32:25,277 So she tried to kill Matthew instead. 633 00:32:25,311 --> 00:32:26,745 Now, I'm not sure, 634 00:32:26,778 --> 00:32:29,982 but it's probably why he does what he does. 635 00:32:30,016 --> 00:32:32,584 I mean, it seems pretty likely. 636 00:32:32,618 --> 00:32:34,753 But still, if I could, 637 00:32:34,786 --> 00:32:37,323 I'd talk to him about it. 638 00:32:37,356 --> 00:32:40,792 I mean, wouldn't you... like to talk to him about it? 639 00:32:40,826 --> 00:32:43,395 Or...do you not need to? 640 00:32:46,065 --> 00:32:48,234 Do you know everything, Lyndsay? 641 00:32:52,071 --> 00:32:53,239 I'm done. 642 00:32:54,373 --> 00:32:55,641 Well, I'm not. 643 00:32:55,674 --> 00:32:57,809 When I am, you'll know. 644 00:32:59,645 --> 00:33:02,548 Woman: And how are the factors for awakening 645 00:33:02,581 --> 00:33:04,983 developed and pursued 646 00:33:05,017 --> 00:33:07,119 so as to bring clear knowing 647 00:33:07,153 --> 00:33:10,556 and release to their culmination? 648 00:33:12,824 --> 00:33:15,561 A monk develops mindfulness 649 00:33:15,594 --> 00:33:19,031 as a factor for awakening. 650 00:33:19,065 --> 00:33:24,303 Persistence as a factor for awakening. 651 00:33:24,336 --> 00:33:29,975 Concentration as a factor for awakening. 652 00:33:30,008 --> 00:33:35,147 Serenity as a factor for awakening. 653 00:33:35,181 --> 00:33:38,817 Dependent on seclusion. 654 00:33:38,850 --> 00:33:41,587 Dependent on dispassion. 655 00:33:41,620 --> 00:33:44,556 Dependent on closure. 656 00:33:44,590 --> 00:33:48,560 Resulting in surrender. 657 00:33:48,594 --> 00:33:56,502 ** 658 00:33:56,535 --> 00:34:04,410 ** 659 00:34:04,443 --> 00:34:12,351 ** 660 00:34:12,384 --> 00:34:14,820 Lyndsay? 661 00:34:18,056 --> 00:34:19,625 Lyndsay?! 662 00:34:19,658 --> 00:34:21,093 Chance: It's okay, Ryan. 663 00:34:22,461 --> 00:34:24,696 I'm here. 664 00:34:24,730 --> 00:34:26,598 You're here with me. 665 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,402 [ Breathing shakily ] 666 00:34:38,944 --> 00:34:41,147 Um... 667 00:34:41,180 --> 00:34:43,449 Where the fuck is here? 668 00:34:45,151 --> 00:34:47,453 This is a safe place. 669 00:34:47,486 --> 00:34:50,789 I brought you here because I thought it was best. 670 00:34:50,822 --> 00:34:55,427 A quiet place for us to finish what you started. 671 00:34:55,461 --> 00:34:56,995 You're not a prisoner. 672 00:34:57,028 --> 00:34:58,797 Ryan, you're not a hostage. 673 00:34:58,830 --> 00:35:00,932 You want to call someone, you can call Lyndsay 674 00:35:00,966 --> 00:35:02,701 or you could call the police if you want. 675 00:35:07,473 --> 00:35:09,675 [ Cellphone clatters ] 676 00:35:09,708 --> 00:35:12,811 You can tell them that you were kidnapped, 677 00:35:12,844 --> 00:35:14,613 brought here against your will. 678 00:35:14,646 --> 00:35:16,515 It's up to you. 679 00:35:19,351 --> 00:35:21,119 I told you things. 680 00:35:21,153 --> 00:35:22,954 And I know you're not finished. 681 00:35:25,957 --> 00:35:27,826 No, I can't. I can't. 682 00:35:27,859 --> 00:35:29,428 Yeah, you can. 683 00:35:29,461 --> 00:35:31,597 I'm not going to prison. 684 00:35:31,630 --> 00:35:33,131 I'm not asking you to. 685 00:35:37,669 --> 00:35:39,671 I've seen this before, Ryan. 686 00:35:41,673 --> 00:35:44,643 I had a patient. A woman. 687 00:35:44,676 --> 00:35:47,513 She went through this, too. 688 00:35:47,546 --> 00:35:49,481 She and I did. Together. 689 00:35:49,515 --> 00:35:51,717 Who was she? 690 00:35:51,750 --> 00:35:53,719 What was wrong with her? 691 00:35:57,323 --> 00:35:59,491 She hurt people. 692 00:35:59,525 --> 00:36:00,826 Like you did. 693 00:36:00,859 --> 00:36:03,028 Like you do. 694 00:36:03,061 --> 00:36:05,464 She also had a history of abuse, 695 00:36:05,497 --> 00:36:07,533 going back to when she was a child. 696 00:36:07,566 --> 00:36:12,170 She was beset by feelings of guilt and rage, remorse... 697 00:36:12,204 --> 00:36:14,906 Retreating into dissociation. 698 00:36:14,940 --> 00:36:18,477 She also told me that she couldn't face prison. 699 00:36:18,510 --> 00:36:21,647 She was too afraid. 700 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,915 But, as afraid as she was... 701 00:36:26,184 --> 00:36:29,488 she trusted me more. 702 00:36:29,521 --> 00:36:32,558 She admitted what she'd done. 703 00:36:32,591 --> 00:36:34,025 In court. 704 00:36:34,059 --> 00:36:35,994 There was a plea of diminished capacity, 705 00:36:36,027 --> 00:36:38,029 and I testified on her behalf. 706 00:36:38,063 --> 00:36:39,898 She was committed to a psychiatric hospital. 707 00:36:39,931 --> 00:36:41,567 Not a prison. 708 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,036 She's receiving care and she's rebuilding her life. 709 00:36:45,070 --> 00:36:49,341 And I am helping her do that. 710 00:36:49,375 --> 00:36:53,845 It's slow, but it is happening. 711 00:36:53,879 --> 00:36:56,248 There's a path here, Ryan. 712 00:36:59,084 --> 00:37:01,720 A path to becoming whole. 713 00:37:01,753 --> 00:37:04,256 And I think you're brave enough to take those first steps. 714 00:37:04,290 --> 00:37:05,757 And I'll walk it with you. 715 00:37:05,791 --> 00:37:09,861 How do I know any of this is -- 716 00:37:09,895 --> 00:37:12,931 If it could really all work out for me the way you say? 717 00:37:12,964 --> 00:37:16,201 What you can know is what the future will look like 718 00:37:16,234 --> 00:37:18,670 if you don't change it. 719 00:37:21,940 --> 00:37:24,242 It's going to be like the past. 720 00:37:24,276 --> 00:37:26,278 No. No. I'm not -- 721 00:37:26,312 --> 00:37:28,980 I mean, I-I can't just leave my life! 722 00:37:29,014 --> 00:37:31,149 I mean, I have to put everything in order first. 723 00:37:31,182 --> 00:37:32,418 I can't just walk away! 724 00:37:32,451 --> 00:37:34,320 Yeah, you can. 725 00:37:34,353 --> 00:37:36,154 You can and you have to. 726 00:37:37,356 --> 00:37:39,425 You deserve to. 727 00:37:41,493 --> 00:37:46,432 I asked you once how someone could consent 728 00:37:46,465 --> 00:37:47,899 to let you in their head 729 00:37:47,933 --> 00:37:50,268 without knowing what you would find there. 730 00:37:53,271 --> 00:37:55,374 But I knew what you would find. 731 00:37:57,175 --> 00:37:59,311 Yeah, you did. 732 00:37:59,345 --> 00:38:01,112 But you said yes anyway. 733 00:38:03,815 --> 00:38:06,785 You trusted me to bring you to this moment. 734 00:38:06,818 --> 00:38:14,092 ** 735 00:38:14,125 --> 00:38:18,296 Nothing worthwhile is ever done through thinking alone. 736 00:38:18,330 --> 00:38:20,532 At some point, you have to act. 737 00:38:20,566 --> 00:38:27,606 ** 738 00:38:27,639 --> 00:38:29,541 What will it look like? 739 00:38:29,575 --> 00:38:31,009 Where do I go? 740 00:38:31,042 --> 00:38:32,811 What do I do? 741 00:38:32,844 --> 00:38:35,881 You just walk into a police station, 742 00:38:35,914 --> 00:38:37,816 any police station. 743 00:38:37,849 --> 00:38:40,118 -With you? -No. I can't. 744 00:38:40,151 --> 00:38:43,021 They would think I'd coerced you. 745 00:38:43,054 --> 00:38:44,656 They'd be thinking that down the line somewhere, 746 00:38:44,690 --> 00:38:48,226 some defense lawyer's gonna use my presence against them. 747 00:38:48,259 --> 00:38:50,195 But you'll come after? When it's done? 748 00:38:52,531 --> 00:38:55,033 When it's done. 749 00:38:59,505 --> 00:39:00,839 Well then... 750 00:39:00,872 --> 00:39:03,308 [Breathes deeply] 751 00:39:03,341 --> 00:39:05,377 I guess it's time to act. 752 00:39:08,614 --> 00:39:10,348 Yeah. 753 00:39:15,020 --> 00:39:18,056 [ Breathes shakily ] 754 00:39:20,291 --> 00:39:22,060 I'll see you on the path. 755 00:39:22,093 --> 00:39:31,169 ** 756 00:39:31,202 --> 00:39:33,439 [ Door opens ] 757 00:39:33,472 --> 00:39:35,106 [ Dialing ] 758 00:39:35,140 --> 00:39:38,744 [ Line rings ] 759 00:39:38,777 --> 00:39:40,011 Hynes: Hey. 760 00:39:40,045 --> 00:39:41,913 I think this is it. 761 00:39:52,658 --> 00:39:54,760 ** 762 00:39:54,793 --> 00:39:55,894 What is this? 763 00:39:55,927 --> 00:40:01,399 ** 764 00:40:01,433 --> 00:40:03,234 Why are we here? 765 00:40:05,437 --> 00:40:08,139 I called your son. 766 00:40:08,173 --> 00:40:10,375 Said how you never stopped keeping the faith 767 00:40:10,408 --> 00:40:12,744 the entire time I've known you. 768 00:40:12,778 --> 00:40:14,880 Told him what you did for them, 769 00:40:14,913 --> 00:40:17,449 how you'd take all the beatings there are. 770 00:40:17,483 --> 00:40:19,117 How you never hated, 771 00:40:19,150 --> 00:40:20,852 no matter how hurt you were. 772 00:40:23,922 --> 00:40:24,890 D -- 773 00:40:24,923 --> 00:40:27,158 They get it now. 774 00:40:27,192 --> 00:40:29,427 They're up there waiting. 775 00:40:31,362 --> 00:40:33,565 They want to talk. 776 00:40:33,599 --> 00:40:43,575 ** 777 00:40:43,609 --> 00:40:53,519 ** 778 00:40:53,552 --> 00:41:03,529 ** 779 00:41:03,562 --> 00:41:11,369 ** 780 00:41:11,402 --> 00:41:19,177 ** 781 00:41:19,210 --> 00:41:20,846 Good call. 782 00:41:25,350 --> 00:41:27,519 All right. 783 00:41:29,855 --> 00:41:32,057 Let's just get it over with then. 784 00:41:32,090 --> 00:41:33,625 Go ahead. 785 00:41:33,659 --> 00:41:35,426 Here's a fucked-up thing. 786 00:41:38,163 --> 00:41:42,200 When I needed you, you were gone. 787 00:41:42,233 --> 00:41:44,970 When I told you what was happening, 788 00:41:45,003 --> 00:41:47,706 you heard enough to know. 789 00:41:47,739 --> 00:41:50,876 I didn't get it, though. 790 00:41:50,909 --> 00:41:54,680 I kept thinking that you left because you didn't understand. 791 00:41:54,713 --> 00:41:58,884 That if I could just be clearer, explain better, 792 00:41:58,917 --> 00:42:01,286 that you'd finally step up. 793 00:42:04,556 --> 00:42:08,259 It took me years to see that you just didn't give a fuck. 794 00:42:09,628 --> 00:42:14,566 And now, when what I really need is for you to be gone, 795 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,102 here you are. 796 00:42:17,135 --> 00:42:20,171 With your money, your bought-off judges, 797 00:42:20,205 --> 00:42:22,340 your PIs hunting me down. 798 00:42:22,373 --> 00:42:25,577 With all the shit that got us here... 799 00:42:25,611 --> 00:42:27,545 on you. 800 00:42:30,148 --> 00:42:32,550 So here's my offer. 801 00:42:32,584 --> 00:42:36,554 Never try to find or interfere with me again. 802 00:42:36,588 --> 00:42:39,257 In this life or any other, 803 00:42:39,290 --> 00:42:42,761 by way of covering all bets. 804 00:42:42,794 --> 00:42:44,963 As long as you can do that, 805 00:42:44,996 --> 00:42:47,432 I can even thank you. 806 00:42:50,669 --> 00:42:53,104 You made me who I am, 807 00:42:53,138 --> 00:42:54,640 and I'm okay with it. 808 00:42:58,343 --> 00:43:00,712 How about you? 809 00:43:00,746 --> 00:43:03,148 Are you okay with it? 810 00:43:03,181 --> 00:43:09,287 ** 811 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:15,460 ** 812 00:43:15,493 --> 00:43:16,895 You know what? 813 00:43:16,928 --> 00:43:18,930 I don't give a fuck if you are or not. 814 00:43:18,964 --> 00:43:20,832 I just need to know if we're done. 815 00:43:20,866 --> 00:43:22,734 For good. 816 00:43:22,768 --> 00:43:24,002 Last time we speak. 817 00:43:24,035 --> 00:43:25,837 Last time we anything. 818 00:43:25,871 --> 00:43:27,138 Ever. 819 00:43:29,875 --> 00:43:31,609 Yes. 820 00:43:34,145 --> 00:43:36,081 Awesome. 821 00:43:36,114 --> 00:43:44,856 ** 822 00:44:02,974 --> 00:44:04,442 [ Cellphone ringing ] 823 00:44:04,475 --> 00:44:08,513 [ Groans, coughs ] 824 00:44:08,546 --> 00:44:15,053 ** 825 00:44:15,086 --> 00:44:16,287 Frank? 826 00:44:16,321 --> 00:44:17,823 Lambert: Hey, sorry so late. 827 00:44:17,856 --> 00:44:19,657 Oh, forget it. What's up? 828 00:44:19,691 --> 00:44:21,492 Ryan Winter. 829 00:44:21,526 --> 00:44:24,229 Yeah. What about him? 830 00:44:24,262 --> 00:44:25,797 Well, I don't have any details yet, just -- 831 00:44:25,831 --> 00:44:27,298 he called the office. 832 00:44:27,332 --> 00:44:29,667 He was asking for somebody to come out to his house. 833 00:44:29,701 --> 00:44:31,136 And it probably should be my boss, 834 00:44:31,169 --> 00:44:32,670 but my boss is in Tahoe. 835 00:44:32,704 --> 00:44:34,139 Come out to his house? For what? 836 00:44:34,172 --> 00:44:36,307 He just said that he needed to talk to somebody. 837 00:44:36,341 --> 00:44:38,910 About the things that he's done. 838 00:44:38,944 --> 00:44:40,178 Now, obviously, I said that I'd go. 839 00:44:40,211 --> 00:44:41,880 I'm rolling out there now. 840 00:44:41,913 --> 00:44:43,849 I thought I'd give you the heads up in case you wanted to come. 841 00:44:43,882 --> 00:44:46,184 -You fucking serious? -Well, nothing's official, 842 00:44:46,217 --> 00:44:49,254 but if this is what it sounds like it could be... 843 00:44:49,287 --> 00:44:50,688 you deserve to be there, man. 844 00:44:50,722 --> 00:44:52,423 I mean, you, of all people. 845 00:44:52,457 --> 00:44:54,359 You're the best, Frank. I'm on my way. 846 00:44:54,392 --> 00:45:02,400 ** 847 00:45:02,433 --> 00:45:04,936 [ Engine shuts off ] 848 00:45:04,970 --> 00:45:14,545 ** 849 00:45:14,579 --> 00:45:24,122 ** 850 00:45:24,155 --> 00:45:33,731 ** 851 00:45:33,765 --> 00:45:43,308 ** 852 00:45:43,341 --> 00:45:52,884 ** 853 00:45:52,918 --> 00:46:02,460 ** 854 00:46:02,493 --> 00:46:12,070 ** 855 00:46:12,103 --> 00:46:21,646 ** 856 00:46:21,679 --> 00:46:22,814 Winter: Detective. 857 00:46:22,848 --> 00:46:32,457 ** 858 00:46:32,490 --> 00:46:34,826 Where's Frank? 859 00:46:34,860 --> 00:46:44,169 ** 860 00:46:44,202 --> 00:46:45,336 [ Gun cocks ] 861 00:46:45,370 --> 00:46:48,907 I said, where the fuck is Frank?! 862 00:46:50,808 --> 00:46:53,311 He's right there. 863 00:46:53,344 --> 00:46:55,246 Frank -- 864 00:46:57,382 --> 00:47:00,785 [ Groans ] 865 00:47:00,818 --> 00:47:03,788 [ Savages' "Adore" playing ] 866 00:47:03,821 --> 00:47:07,325 [ Groans ] 867 00:47:07,358 --> 00:47:08,493 [ Exhales ] 868 00:47:08,526 --> 00:47:12,163 * I adore life 869 00:47:12,197 --> 00:47:15,400 * Do you adore life? 870 00:47:15,433 --> 00:47:19,804 * I adore life 871 00:47:19,837 --> 00:47:23,241 * Do you adore life? 872 00:47:23,274 --> 00:47:27,212 * I adore life 873 00:47:27,245 --> 00:47:30,815 * Do you adore life? 874 00:47:30,848 --> 00:47:34,552 * I adore life 875 00:47:34,585 --> 00:47:37,855 * Do you adore life? 876 00:47:37,889 --> 00:47:41,893 * I adore life 877 00:47:41,927 --> 00:47:45,396 * Do you adore life? 878 00:47:45,430 --> 00:47:48,866 * I adore life 879 00:47:48,900 --> 00:47:52,337 * Do you adore life? 880 00:47:52,370 --> 00:47:55,873 * I adore 881 00:47:55,907 --> 00:47:59,744 * Do you adore 882 00:47:59,777 --> 00:48:03,248 * I adore 883 00:48:03,281 --> 00:48:07,652 * Do you adore life?