1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:02,667 [dramatic music] 2 00:00:05,500 --> 00:00:07,266 - I can't tell you how many times I've talked 3 00:00:07,300 --> 00:00:09,000 about this case. 4 00:00:09,667 --> 00:00:11,000 You can retire. 5 00:00:11,033 --> 00:00:14,233 You can walk away and go about your life, 6 00:00:14,266 --> 00:00:15,734 but you're always gonna have to answer 7 00:00:15,767 --> 00:00:18,266 questions to this case. 8 00:00:19,467 --> 00:00:21,100 - You want me to tell you? 9 00:00:21,133 --> 00:00:22,333 [Steve Powell] The story about the ring. 10 00:00:22,367 --> 00:00:23,333 [Susan Powell] Okay. 11 00:00:23,367 --> 00:00:24,734 You're too close. 12 00:00:25,467 --> 00:00:27,734 - I'd get frustrated when people would be like, 13 00:00:27,767 --> 00:00:30,066 "Hey, don't you know her?" 14 00:00:30,100 --> 00:00:32,367 They'd just talk about it lightly, 15 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:36,300 and it's my friend that's gone [crying]. 16 00:00:36,333 --> 00:00:39,266 [Susan] [laughing] 17 00:00:41,533 --> 00:00:44,233 [Anne Bremner] When I look at this case in its totality, 18 00:00:44,266 --> 00:00:49,567 I think it's the most tragic, horrible case 19 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,467 I've ever seen reported anywhere. 20 00:00:53,500 --> 00:00:57,000 [dramatic music builds] 21 00:00:57,033 --> 00:00:58,667 Susan Cox Powell. 22 00:00:58,700 --> 00:01:00,300 You know, she was beautiful. 23 00:01:00,333 --> 00:01:01,300 - Ta-da. 24 00:01:01,333 --> 00:01:02,400 [Anne] She had these young boys. 25 00:01:02,433 --> 00:01:03,667 [Susan] Say, "Hi". 26 00:01:03,700 --> 00:01:05,767 [Anne] She came from a great family, 27 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,567 and then she just disappears. 28 00:01:10,300 --> 00:01:11,767 [Ellis Maxwell] We have two box fans that were 29 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,300 blowing on a couch that was recently cleaned. 30 00:01:14,333 --> 00:01:16,367 The house is completely locked up. 31 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,667 Susan's purse is in her bedroom, undisturbed. 32 00:01:19,700 --> 00:01:21,300 It makes no sense. 33 00:01:21,333 --> 00:01:24,066 - Josh Powell is a person of interest in this case. 34 00:01:24,100 --> 00:01:26,700 - Anybody whose spouse is missing, they're gonna say, 35 00:01:26,734 --> 00:01:28,166 "I'm gonna look everywhere." 36 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,200 - I don't even know where to start looking. 37 00:01:34,433 --> 00:01:36,300 [Reporter] Josh tells police he took their two young sons 38 00:01:36,333 --> 00:01:39,400 camping at midnight in sub-zero temperatures. 39 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:41,700 - When you guys came home from camping, 40 00:01:41,734 --> 00:01:43,467 who came home with you? 41 00:01:49,100 --> 00:01:50,467 [Chris Jones] When you look at the breadcrumbs, 42 00:01:50,500 --> 00:01:52,166 she left all the evidence. 43 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,233 Yeah, everybody missed it. 44 00:01:55,266 --> 00:01:57,667 [Susan] If something happens to me or my family, 45 00:01:57,700 --> 00:01:59,400 covering all my bases. 46 00:01:59,433 --> 00:02:02,133 [Chris] All of a sudden, this story started 47 00:02:02,166 --> 00:02:05,100 to sort of branch out in another direction. 48 00:02:06,333 --> 00:02:10,400 - She's the most beautiful thing that ever walked the earth. 49 00:02:12,266 --> 00:02:15,066 - Josh's father, Steve, was obsessed with her 50 00:02:15,100 --> 00:02:17,467 and in love with her in a sick and twisted way. 51 00:02:17,500 --> 00:02:20,200 [Chris] He was infatuated with Susan Powell. 52 00:02:20,233 --> 00:02:23,133 Bags of toenail clippings, hair clippings, 53 00:02:23,166 --> 00:02:25,133 dated and had her name on it. 54 00:02:25,667 --> 00:02:28,367 [Steve] She did that for me. 55 00:02:29,633 --> 00:02:32,734 - For the first time ever, an exclusive interview 56 00:02:32,767 --> 00:02:36,533 with a family member who will tell her side of the story. 57 00:02:36,567 --> 00:02:40,033 - So, here we are, daddy and daughter. 58 00:02:40,633 --> 00:02:45,133 - What I saw is different than what everyone else is claiming. 59 00:02:45,500 --> 00:02:47,133 [Ben Winslow] How many people knew? 60 00:02:47,166 --> 00:02:48,500 Did anybody know? 61 00:02:48,533 --> 00:02:50,066 [woman] I hope nobody was in there. 62 00:02:50,100 --> 00:02:52,734 - Where is she and who really killed her? 63 00:02:52,767 --> 00:02:55,633 [dramatic music] 64 00:02:55,667 --> 00:03:00,633 [theme music] 65 00:03:00,667 --> 00:03:10,500 ♪♪♪♪♪ 66 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:17,033 [dramatic music] 67 00:03:17,066 --> 00:03:18,533 - My name is Stephanie Bauer. 68 00:03:18,567 --> 00:03:21,433 I'm an investigative journalist who's covered notorious crimes 69 00:03:21,467 --> 00:03:24,400 across the country for over a decade. 70 00:03:24,433 --> 00:03:28,133 Susan Cox Powell was a young woman who dreamed of being 71 00:03:28,166 --> 00:03:30,000 a wife and a mother, 72 00:03:30,033 --> 00:03:33,667 then mysteriously disappeared in 2009. 73 00:03:34,300 --> 00:03:38,266 What could've possibly happened to Susan, and why? 74 00:03:38,300 --> 00:03:42,300 For years, authorities have named Susan's own husband, 75 00:03:42,333 --> 00:03:46,667 Josh Powell, a person of interest in this ongoing case, 76 00:03:46,700 --> 00:03:49,734 but what could be Josh's motive? 77 00:03:50,467 --> 00:03:51,567 [Steve] Okay, one more smile, 78 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,200 then I'm going to get the other camera. 79 00:03:53,233 --> 00:03:55,667 - I've worked hundreds of cases, if not thousands, 80 00:03:55,700 --> 00:03:58,467 but the Susan Powell case is probably right up there 81 00:03:58,500 --> 00:04:00,066 at the top. 82 00:04:00,100 --> 00:04:02,367 Everybody you talked to with the evidence that was there 83 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,500 believed that Josh was somehow involved when she went missing. 84 00:04:05,533 --> 00:04:07,767 [Stephanie] For the first time ever, we've unearthed 85 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:12,734 boxes of home videos made by Josh Powell's father, Steve. 86 00:04:12,767 --> 00:04:14,467 - And here I am. 87 00:04:14,500 --> 00:04:16,266 - These are all his original tapes? 88 00:04:16,300 --> 00:04:17,567 - Yes. - That were taken into evidence? 89 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,033 [Gary] Those are all original tapes that were 90 00:04:19,066 --> 00:04:20,300 taken into evidence. 91 00:04:20,333 --> 00:04:21,500 [Stephanie] Steven likes to document everything. 92 00:04:21,533 --> 00:04:25,033 He takes, like, these bizarre, lifelong videos. 93 00:04:25,066 --> 00:04:27,567 [dramatic music] 94 00:04:31,500 --> 00:04:33,567 - We knew that her father-in-law had an obsession, 95 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,266 but I... it's... 96 00:04:35,300 --> 00:04:36,500 You don't see how bad it was 97 00:04:36,533 --> 00:04:38,467 until you really see this evidence. 98 00:04:38,500 --> 00:04:40,133 - Yeah. 99 00:04:40,166 --> 00:04:41,400 Unfortunately, I've seen some sides of Steven that I never, 100 00:04:41,433 --> 00:04:44,133 ever want to see, and I can never, ever un-see. 101 00:04:44,166 --> 00:04:46,600 He had a deviant mind and an evil intent, 102 00:04:46,633 --> 00:04:48,100 and then, as you can see, 103 00:04:48,133 --> 00:04:50,333 the apple doesn't fall far from the tree with Josh. 104 00:04:50,367 --> 00:04:51,300 [Susan] All right. 105 00:04:51,333 --> 00:04:53,033 - See, I married good, huh? 106 00:04:53,066 --> 00:04:54,667 [Steve] Yeah, no kidding, wow. 107 00:04:54,700 --> 00:04:56,734 - From the beginning, we set out to piece together 108 00:04:56,767 --> 00:05:01,266 a definitive account of what happened to Susan Cox Powell. 109 00:05:01,300 --> 00:05:03,333 For the first time ever, 110 00:05:03,367 --> 00:05:06,633 Susan's family and the Powell family 111 00:05:06,667 --> 00:05:08,133 speak out. 112 00:05:08,166 --> 00:05:10,700 - We're hoping by showing this or getting stuff out, 113 00:05:10,734 --> 00:05:12,633 somehow somebody will have a clue that leads 114 00:05:12,667 --> 00:05:14,166 to finding Susan. 115 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:15,467 - Yeah. 116 00:05:19,767 --> 00:05:27,467 [dramatic music] 117 00:05:27,500 --> 00:05:29,000 [Denise Ernest] When I was 12, 118 00:05:29,033 --> 00:05:31,367 we moved to Puyallup, Washington, 119 00:05:33,266 --> 00:05:36,233 And it was just the six of us, 120 00:05:36,266 --> 00:05:39,066 my three sisters and my parents. 121 00:05:41,533 --> 00:05:46,066 Susan was there to support me no matter what I did. 122 00:05:49,066 --> 00:05:52,033 - She made me feel happy, but I could tell if she was 123 00:05:52,066 --> 00:05:56,433 not feeling herself or unhappy, but that was rare. 124 00:05:58,500 --> 00:06:01,600 Most of the time, she was happy and full of life. 125 00:06:01,633 --> 00:06:02,600 - [laughing] 126 00:06:02,633 --> 00:06:04,166 [Steve] Okay. 127 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,100 [Chuck Cox] Susan was very positive, always interested, 128 00:06:07,133 --> 00:06:09,467 and very determined. 129 00:06:10,567 --> 00:06:14,000 She was willing to do whatever work was required 130 00:06:14,033 --> 00:06:15,266 to get what she wanted. 131 00:06:15,300 --> 00:06:16,567 [Susan] And there's more stuff... 132 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,000 [Chuck] In high school, she decided she wanted 133 00:06:18,033 --> 00:06:20,000 to be a beautician. 134 00:06:20,033 --> 00:06:21,633 - And this stuff makes my skin, 135 00:06:21,667 --> 00:06:26,367 my face match my arms because my face doesn't tan. 136 00:06:27,033 --> 00:06:30,667 - But most of all, she wanted to be married and have a family. 137 00:06:30,700 --> 00:06:32,667 She loved kids. 138 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,433 - She was very impatient to get to that point 139 00:06:38,467 --> 00:06:39,734 and was looking around for, 140 00:06:39,767 --> 00:06:42,767 "Okay, now I got to find me a potential husband." 141 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,633 That's when she met Josh. 142 00:06:45,667 --> 00:06:54,367 [dramatic music] 143 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:55,734 [Susan] So he was shopping for a ring, 144 00:06:55,767 --> 00:06:58,033 and he told me it was going to be for his mom, 145 00:06:58,066 --> 00:06:59,300 and so I was helping him look, 146 00:06:59,333 --> 00:07:01,200 and he was looking at this ring that I have on. 147 00:07:01,233 --> 00:07:03,200 He bought it, and actually I paid for it 148 00:07:03,233 --> 00:07:04,734 so he could get the associate discount- 149 00:07:04,767 --> 00:07:06,333 [Steve] Ah. 150 00:07:06,367 --> 00:07:07,567 - And then he turned around and wrote me a check for it. 151 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:08,467 [Steve] Uh-huh [affirmative]. 152 00:07:08,500 --> 00:07:09,400 - You're too close. [laughing] 153 00:07:09,433 --> 00:07:11,600 So then he eventually proposed. 154 00:07:11,633 --> 00:07:17,500 [dramatic music] 155 00:07:17,533 --> 00:07:19,700 - In the Mormon Church, they have what they call 156 00:07:19,734 --> 00:07:24,166 a single adult ward where people go to meet each other, 157 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,166 and Josh was attending the same ward. 158 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,000 [Wedding MC] Two, three. 159 00:07:29,033 --> 00:07:30,633 [Denise] Susan had been dating Josh for only 160 00:07:30,667 --> 00:07:33,700 two months before they got engaged. 161 00:07:33,734 --> 00:07:35,500 [Wedding MC] Whenever he's ready, he's going to let it go. 162 00:07:35,533 --> 00:07:38,200 - Josh was very, very loud, 163 00:07:38,233 --> 00:07:40,066 very overbearing. 164 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,100 His opinions were the only right ones, 165 00:07:44,133 --> 00:07:45,600 and he was very obsessive. 166 00:07:45,633 --> 00:07:47,667 - Let's get one in this background. 167 00:07:50,166 --> 00:07:53,000 Let's all come over to this background, get one more. 168 00:07:53,033 --> 00:07:55,200 - He would talk so much about himself. 169 00:07:55,233 --> 00:07:57,100 - I'm opening my present. 170 00:07:57,133 --> 00:07:58,533 [woman] I feel privileged. 171 00:07:58,567 --> 00:08:00,066 [Steve] This is something you can actually wear to church. 172 00:08:00,100 --> 00:08:01,233 [Denise] I thought, "Wow, 173 00:08:01,266 --> 00:08:04,133 this guy just wants attention or something." 174 00:08:04,166 --> 00:08:07,567 [Steve] There goes Josh into the sunset or something. 175 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,467 - He thought that he knew it all, 176 00:08:10,500 --> 00:08:14,533 and no matter what you said or did to him, 177 00:08:14,567 --> 00:08:16,266 he just shrugged it off. 178 00:08:16,300 --> 00:08:17,367 - I just knew. 179 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:18,533 I mean, you know ... 180 00:08:18,567 --> 00:08:20,133 [woman] You know when you know, don't ya? 181 00:08:20,166 --> 00:08:21,400 [Josh] Yeah. 182 00:08:21,433 --> 00:08:23,367 [Denise] My parents asked her not to marry him. 183 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,600 I asked her not to marry him. 184 00:08:25,633 --> 00:08:29,500 - I said, "Go out and date like crazy 185 00:08:29,533 --> 00:08:33,233 for a couple years and have fun", and she goes, 186 00:08:33,266 --> 00:08:35,367 "Well, what about Josh?" 187 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,233 And I looked at her 188 00:08:38,266 --> 00:08:41,567 and I said, "I'm sorry Susan. 189 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,233 I look at Josh and I see darkness." 190 00:08:45,266 --> 00:08:52,300 [dramatic music] 191 00:08:52,333 --> 00:08:53,400 [Denise] Susan loved the religion. 192 00:08:53,433 --> 00:08:54,367 It was for her. 193 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:55,433 She enjoyed the rules. 194 00:08:55,467 --> 00:08:57,633 She believed in the church. 195 00:08:57,667 --> 00:09:01,200 If you're in the church and you get married, you're stuck. 196 00:09:01,233 --> 00:09:02,166 There is no way out. 197 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:03,266 You just got to deal with it. 198 00:09:03,300 --> 00:09:04,734 You made the decision. 199 00:09:04,767 --> 00:09:07,467 - In the LDS church, one of the most important 200 00:09:07,500 --> 00:09:10,433 beliefs that we have is that families are 201 00:09:10,467 --> 00:09:13,100 the most important thing after God. 202 00:09:13,667 --> 00:09:15,567 [Steve] Your grandchildren will love this. 203 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:16,600 [Susan] Mm-hmm [affirmative]. 204 00:09:16,633 --> 00:09:17,767 [Steve] Do you have grandchildren? 205 00:09:20,066 --> 00:09:21,066 [Steve] [laughs] 206 00:09:21,100 --> 00:09:27,667 [dramatic music] 207 00:09:27,700 --> 00:09:30,567 [Denise] Josh had tried to be a real estate agent. 208 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,033 It didn't work out. 209 00:09:32,066 --> 00:09:34,400 So, they were planning to move to Utah 210 00:09:34,433 --> 00:09:37,367 for better job opportunities. 211 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:42,500 [engine rumbles] 212 00:09:42,533 --> 00:09:43,533 - See ya later. 213 00:09:43,567 --> 00:09:46,033 [Steve] Okay, bye. 214 00:09:46,066 --> 00:09:53,400 [gentle piano music] 215 00:09:53,433 --> 00:09:55,166 - When Susan found out she was pregnant, 216 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,433 she was extremely excited. 217 00:09:57,467 --> 00:09:58,300 - Wait, wait, wait. 218 00:09:58,333 --> 00:09:59,533 Here's my language. 219 00:10:01,100 --> 00:10:02,300 [laughs] So there. 220 00:10:02,333 --> 00:10:04,233 [Denise] 'Cause she always wanted a big family. 221 00:10:04,266 --> 00:10:06,767 [Susan] Charlie, say, "Hi." 222 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:08,266 [Denise] When Charlie was born, 223 00:10:08,300 --> 00:10:13,000 she was really excited because she gave Josh a son. 224 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,700 After she had Braydon, she had two sons. 225 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,166 - Susan seemed so happy in her life with Josh, 226 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:26,033 but you have to wonder, did anyone see any warning signs 227 00:10:26,066 --> 00:10:29,400 in those first few years of their relationship? 228 00:10:29,433 --> 00:10:30,734 [Susan] [laughs] 229 00:10:31,467 --> 00:10:33,700 - She seemed to be on top of things. 230 00:10:33,734 --> 00:10:37,367 So, as I got to know other circumstances, 231 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,500 I was really surprised. 232 00:10:40,066 --> 00:10:43,600 Susan told me things leading up to her disappearance. 233 00:10:43,633 --> 00:10:47,700 Josh had all these expectations on her and 234 00:10:47,734 --> 00:10:50,500 just made her feel awful if she didn't meet up 235 00:10:50,533 --> 00:10:52,700 to all of these expectations. 236 00:10:54,166 --> 00:10:57,633 - Most of the time, Josh was downstairs in the 237 00:10:57,667 --> 00:11:00,033 basement in his "office". 238 00:11:02,066 --> 00:11:04,500 One time, I was watching the boys for them 239 00:11:04,533 --> 00:11:06,700 because they were going on a date 240 00:11:06,734 --> 00:11:08,433 and they were going to go see a movie 241 00:11:08,467 --> 00:11:11,433 and go do dinner, and she just yelled to Josh, 242 00:11:11,467 --> 00:11:12,633 like, "Hey, come on let's go. 243 00:11:12,667 --> 00:11:15,734 We're going to be late," and he just snapped. 244 00:11:17,667 --> 00:11:20,533 He turned and looked at her and was just, "I'm coming!" 245 00:11:20,567 --> 00:11:22,200 It was like a switch. 246 00:11:22,233 --> 00:11:24,734 He was screaming and the boys started crying. 247 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,633 - She had called me saying that Josh had pushed her, 248 00:11:29,667 --> 00:11:32,433 and they were fighting, and I said, 249 00:11:32,467 --> 00:11:33,533 "I'll come get you right now," 250 00:11:33,567 --> 00:11:37,233 and she said, "No. It'll be okay. 251 00:11:37,266 --> 00:11:39,066 We'll work it out." 252 00:11:41,033 --> 00:11:42,767 - Domestic violence is such a 253 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,233 complicated situation for people. 254 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,667 It's a type of violence and crime and abuse 255 00:11:49,700 --> 00:11:53,300 that is so private, it's so stigmatized, 256 00:11:53,333 --> 00:11:55,000 it's so embarrassing to people. 257 00:11:55,033 --> 00:11:59,200 Someone who is really highly controlling, highly jealous, 258 00:11:59,233 --> 00:12:01,467 controlling finances, these are things that aren't 259 00:12:01,500 --> 00:12:03,367 as obvious sometimes. 260 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,033 All of these things cause serious emotional implications. 261 00:12:07,567 --> 00:12:09,767 [Tara] As I got to see the way he treated her, 262 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,000 I couldn't even stand going over there anymore. 263 00:12:13,033 --> 00:12:17,000 So, we would just visit either at my house or at a park. 264 00:12:18,433 --> 00:12:19,333 I can't talk about this. 265 00:12:19,367 --> 00:12:20,700 Sorry. 266 00:12:24,700 --> 00:12:26,066 She had said so many times to me, 267 00:12:26,100 --> 00:12:28,567 "This is not the man that I married." 268 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,567 So, she was watching things fall apart, 269 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,533 obviously, before her eyes. 270 00:12:33,567 --> 00:12:36,100 Then I would just see him, I don't know, 271 00:12:36,133 --> 00:12:39,333 losing respect for her as a person and as a woman. 272 00:12:39,367 --> 00:12:43,133 As things progressed for the worst, she was asking me 273 00:12:43,166 --> 00:12:47,333 if I knew, legally, what her options were 274 00:12:47,367 --> 00:12:49,166 and I had no idea. 275 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:55,000 [dramatic music] 276 00:12:55,033 --> 00:12:57,367 - We all thought Josh was pretty harmless. 277 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,300 Creepy, but harmless. 278 00:13:00,133 --> 00:13:01,533 - Nice. 279 00:13:01,567 --> 00:13:04,133 [Denise] But I did hear him tell her, 280 00:13:04,166 --> 00:13:06,633 "Over my dead body will you leave me." 281 00:13:08,066 --> 00:13:10,734 Over my dead body will you have those boys." 282 00:13:11,633 --> 00:13:14,367 - On the morning of December 7, 2009, 283 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:18,433 Josh's mother called 911 to report that Josh, Susan, 284 00:13:18,467 --> 00:13:20,633 and their children had gone missing. 285 00:13:20,667 --> 00:13:23,734 This is the actual recording of that call. 286 00:13:46,767 --> 00:13:49,333 - There was more to every character in this story 287 00:13:49,367 --> 00:13:51,000 than what met the eye. 288 00:13:53,700 --> 00:13:57,033 - The home videos we've unearthed are shocking. 289 00:13:57,066 --> 00:13:58,500 [Anne] Steven was obsessed with her. 290 00:13:58,533 --> 00:14:00,100 Steven had pictures of her. 291 00:14:00,133 --> 00:14:03,266 Steven morphed pictures of himself with her. 292 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,200 [eerie music] 293 00:14:15,533 --> 00:14:17,367 - On December 6, 2009, 294 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:21,533 a snowstorm covered the suburb just outside of Salt Lake City 295 00:14:21,567 --> 00:14:25,200 where Josh and Susan Powell lived with their two children. 296 00:14:25,233 --> 00:14:28,467 This house is the last place Susan was seen 297 00:14:28,500 --> 00:14:31,033 prior to her disappearance. 298 00:14:31,433 --> 00:14:33,734 There was a lot of turmoil in this house with 299 00:14:33,767 --> 00:14:36,700 small kids and a young marriage, 300 00:14:36,734 --> 00:14:40,033 but it's eerie to think something happened here 301 00:14:40,066 --> 00:14:42,667 really, right where I'm standing. 302 00:14:42,700 --> 00:14:51,400 [eerie music] 303 00:14:51,433 --> 00:14:54,133 - My mom was living with us at the time, 304 00:14:54,166 --> 00:14:58,266 and she come upstairs and said that Debbie Codwell had called, 305 00:14:58,300 --> 00:15:02,400 and Debbie Codwell was their caretaker for the boys. 306 00:15:04,100 --> 00:15:07,333 And Debbie mentioned that they had never shown up, 307 00:15:07,367 --> 00:15:09,333 which was really unusual. 308 00:15:09,367 --> 00:15:12,533 Susan was so dedicated to her children, 309 00:15:12,567 --> 00:15:15,166 it was really rather alarming, 310 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,033 and so we decided to call the police. 311 00:15:18,066 --> 00:15:21,767 [eerie music] 312 00:15:36,633 --> 00:15:38,734 [Jennifer] The officer that was there called for backup 313 00:15:38,767 --> 00:15:41,200 and three additional officers showed up. 314 00:15:41,233 --> 00:15:44,100 And they kind of had a little powwow, and turned to us 315 00:15:44,133 --> 00:15:48,367 and said "Well, we're willing to break into the house, 316 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,600 if you will take responsibility for the window." 317 00:15:51,633 --> 00:15:53,333 And so of course we agreed. 318 00:15:53,367 --> 00:15:56,367 And as the officer was breaking that window, 319 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,667 he pulled the blind aside and he was like, 320 00:15:58,700 --> 00:16:00,433 "What's up with the fans?" 321 00:16:01,266 --> 00:16:02,767 [Stephanie] When police officers entered the house, 322 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,100 the couch had been freshly cleaned 323 00:16:05,133 --> 00:16:08,000 and two box fans were blowing on it. 324 00:16:08,033 --> 00:16:10,467 Is it possible that someone was trying to cover up 325 00:16:10,500 --> 00:16:14,500 whatever happened to Susan on the night she disappeared? 326 00:16:14,533 --> 00:16:17,266 - I got into their bedroom, 327 00:16:17,300 --> 00:16:20,033 and Susan's purse was right there. 328 00:16:20,066 --> 00:16:22,100 That- That seems really odd to me that she'd 329 00:16:22,133 --> 00:16:24,100 leave her purse behind. 330 00:16:24,133 --> 00:16:26,467 - The Sergeant taps me on the shoulder 331 00:16:26,500 --> 00:16:32,066 and tells me that patrol is out west in the city 332 00:16:32,100 --> 00:16:34,333 on a missing family. 333 00:16:35,166 --> 00:16:38,000 And I go out to the scene, 334 00:16:38,033 --> 00:16:40,400 when I get there, I walked into the house 335 00:16:40,433 --> 00:16:43,533 and I see the cops in there and-and Jennifer Graves 336 00:16:43,567 --> 00:16:46,600 and these people in the house, and I was just, I was furious. 337 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,266 Kicked everybody out of the house then just started just 338 00:16:50,300 --> 00:16:53,467 taking photographs of everything in the home. 339 00:16:53,500 --> 00:16:57,467 We have a house that's completely locked up, 340 00:16:57,500 --> 00:17:01,200 Susan's purse is in her bedroom undisturbed, 341 00:17:01,233 --> 00:17:05,233 she hadn't gone to work, the kids hadn't gone to daycare, 342 00:17:05,266 --> 00:17:07,433 they didn't reach out to nobody. 343 00:17:08,266 --> 00:17:11,667 With all of these little things that kept popping up, 344 00:17:11,700 --> 00:17:15,533 it would make it more suspicious as the day would progress. 345 00:17:15,567 --> 00:17:18,433 - My cell phone rang, and it was a woman's voice, 346 00:17:18,467 --> 00:17:22,100 and she said "This is Jennifer Graves, I'm Josh's sister. 347 00:17:22,133 --> 00:17:24,166 When did you last see Susan?" 348 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,600 So I called up our friend JoVanna. 349 00:17:26,633 --> 00:17:31,166 - Kiirsi texted me, and she said Josh and Susan 350 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,100 were missing and that no one had seen them 351 00:17:34,133 --> 00:17:36,633 since right after church. 352 00:17:38,567 --> 00:17:41,166 I texted Kiirsi and said that's not true 353 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,633 because I saw her yesterday afternoon. 354 00:17:45,433 --> 00:17:48,133 [Stephanie] On December 6th, the day before Susan was 355 00:17:48,166 --> 00:17:51,200 reported missing, JoVanna Owing spent the afternoon 356 00:17:51,233 --> 00:17:53,767 with Josh, Susan, and their two children. 357 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,333 Whatever she witnessed could be crucial 358 00:17:56,367 --> 00:17:59,300 in determining what happened. 359 00:17:59,333 --> 00:18:02,333 You are such a key figure in this because you are 360 00:18:02,367 --> 00:18:06,333 the last person to see Susan. 361 00:18:07,700 --> 00:18:09,200 How does that make you feel? 362 00:18:09,233 --> 00:18:13,000 I imagine you've gone through a range of emotions. 363 00:18:13,033 --> 00:18:15,133 - Uh, it makes me- it really makes me sad that 364 00:18:15,166 --> 00:18:20,233 I didn't clue in to the fact that there was possibly 365 00:18:20,266 --> 00:18:24,000 going to be something that would happen to her. 366 00:18:24,033 --> 00:18:25,033 But- 367 00:18:25,066 --> 00:18:27,000 I just- 368 00:18:27,033 --> 00:18:29,233 I can't change it. 369 00:18:29,266 --> 00:18:31,166 - Okay, let's go backwards a little bit, 370 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,000 Susan had called you to come over. 371 00:18:33,033 --> 00:18:34,367 - Right. 372 00:18:37,033 --> 00:18:40,133 Susan and I sat down in the living room 373 00:18:40,166 --> 00:18:43,100 and she was working on a blanket for one of her sons, 374 00:18:43,133 --> 00:18:46,633 and then Josh and the boys were in the kitchen 375 00:18:46,667 --> 00:18:49,066 preparing the meal. 376 00:18:49,633 --> 00:18:53,233 - We heard later that Josh made pancakes, 377 00:18:53,266 --> 00:18:56,166 which doesn't sound very sinister. 378 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:01,033 Except when you realize, Josh refused to make food. 379 00:19:01,533 --> 00:19:02,767 And did Susan make any comments, about well 380 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,767 "Thanks for the dinner honey." 381 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,467 [JoVanna] Well no, but she did thank him for bringing 382 00:19:06,500 --> 00:19:09,500 her her plate, and she thanked him when he 383 00:19:09,533 --> 00:19:11,133 put a blanket on her. 384 00:19:11,166 --> 00:19:12,367 And she said "Isn't that nice? 385 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,300 He could see I was just a little bit cold?" 386 00:19:14,333 --> 00:19:16,367 And I said, "That is sweet." 387 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,433 After a while, she said she was feeling tired 388 00:19:19,467 --> 00:19:21,266 and that she thought she'd just go in 389 00:19:21,300 --> 00:19:23,400 and lay down for a little bit. 390 00:19:24,500 --> 00:19:26,467 - I never met Susan personally, 391 00:19:26,500 --> 00:19:30,166 but talking to her friends and her family, she was a fighter. 392 00:19:30,500 --> 00:19:34,000 Did Josh drug her or something? 393 00:19:34,033 --> 00:19:35,767 That's possible. 394 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,500 [JoVanna] Josh told me he was going to go sledding, 395 00:19:38,533 --> 00:19:40,767 and basically pushed me out the front door. 396 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,633 And drove off before I even had left. 397 00:19:45,333 --> 00:19:48,633 [Ellis] JoVanna is the last person to speak with them. 398 00:19:49,767 --> 00:19:53,300 - By noon of the following day, no one had heard from 399 00:19:53,333 --> 00:19:58,433 Josh, Susan, or their two children for over 18 hours. 400 00:19:58,467 --> 00:20:04,000 [eerie music] 401 00:20:04,033 --> 00:20:05,400 [Ellis] I was sitting in my cop car, 402 00:20:05,433 --> 00:20:08,000 and JoVanna came to my car and told me 403 00:20:08,033 --> 00:20:10,333 she had just spoken to Josh. 404 00:20:10,367 --> 00:20:12,500 Plenty of people had called him, he hasn't answered, 405 00:20:12,533 --> 00:20:14,433 he hasn't returned any phone calls, 406 00:20:14,467 --> 00:20:17,200 but this random lady just shows up at my car 407 00:20:17,233 --> 00:20:19,500 and tells me she just spoke to him. 408 00:20:19,533 --> 00:20:21,000 Where is Susan? 409 00:20:21,033 --> 00:20:22,767 - I got him on the phone, and I said- 410 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,300 I said, "Josh, where are you?" 411 00:20:24,333 --> 00:20:26,266 And he said, "In West Valley." 412 00:20:26,300 --> 00:20:27,700 I said, "Well, you need to get home. 413 00:20:27,734 --> 00:20:29,300 "Everybody's worried about you. 414 00:20:29,333 --> 00:20:30,367 "They don't know where you're at, 415 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:31,667 "and they don't know where Susan's at, 416 00:20:31,700 --> 00:20:33,200 and you need to get home." 417 00:20:33,233 --> 00:20:35,433 And he said, "Okay, I'll be there in a while, 418 00:20:35,467 --> 00:20:38,734 but Susan should be at work or something." 419 00:20:41,367 --> 00:20:43,533 [Ellis] And after talking to JoVanna Owings 420 00:20:43,567 --> 00:20:46,233 at 3 o'clock in the afternoon, he turns around 421 00:20:46,266 --> 00:20:49,734 and drives 20 minutes from West Valley south 422 00:20:49,767 --> 00:20:53,567 back to call Susan's phone and leave her a voice mail. 423 00:21:01,367 --> 00:21:04,066 - Why did he drive back south 20 minutes 424 00:21:04,100 --> 00:21:05,433 to make that phone call? 425 00:21:05,467 --> 00:21:07,767 He was a smart individual. 426 00:21:08,300 --> 00:21:10,400 I'd called Josh's cell phone, 427 00:21:10,433 --> 00:21:13,266 and I basically tell Josh, 428 00:21:13,300 --> 00:21:16,700 "Look, we've been here for eight, ten hours, 429 00:21:16,734 --> 00:21:18,400 you need to come home now." 430 00:21:18,433 --> 00:21:20,266 And he tells me, "Well, I need to- 431 00:21:20,300 --> 00:21:22,266 need to go feed my kids." 432 00:21:22,300 --> 00:21:26,000 And I said, "I don't care, like, you need to come home. 433 00:21:26,033 --> 00:21:28,233 Your wife is missing." 434 00:21:28,266 --> 00:21:30,233 [Stephanie] After Josh spoke to Detective Maxwell, 435 00:21:30,266 --> 00:21:31,633 Josh didn't go home. 436 00:21:31,667 --> 00:21:35,100 Instead, he drove to Susan's work, parked outside, 437 00:21:35,133 --> 00:21:38,066 and called her on her cell phone to tell her he was there 438 00:21:38,100 --> 00:21:41,166 to pick her up even though multiple people had told him 439 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,700 that she had never shown up for work that day. 440 00:21:55,633 --> 00:21:58,100 - After I spoke with Josh, he doesn't show up 441 00:21:58,133 --> 00:22:00,333 for like 45 minutes. 442 00:22:01,333 --> 00:22:04,266 And so finally, and he pulls up to the house, 443 00:22:04,300 --> 00:22:06,500 and I approach his van, and I ask him, 444 00:22:06,533 --> 00:22:08,400 "Hey look let's go down to our substation 445 00:22:08,433 --> 00:22:10,400 "where we can discuss this. 446 00:22:10,433 --> 00:22:13,400 I can get some information from you about you, your family, 447 00:22:13,433 --> 00:22:16,300 your wife, so we can try to find Susan." 448 00:22:16,333 --> 00:22:22,367 [dramatic music] 449 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,400 [Stephanie] What you're about to hear is the actual 450 00:22:24,433 --> 00:22:27,166 audio from the police interview with Josh 451 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,633 the day Susan was reported missing. 452 00:22:40,433 --> 00:22:43,033 - As far as we know, Susan could have just packed up 453 00:22:43,066 --> 00:22:45,734 with some boyfriend, she had some affair with somebody 454 00:22:45,767 --> 00:22:47,667 and left the state. 455 00:22:54,467 --> 00:22:58,033 - He told me that he had left between 12:30 - 1:30 456 00:22:58,066 --> 00:23:01,000 in the morning and packed the van and the two boys up, 457 00:23:01,033 --> 00:23:03,433 went to go camping out in the west desert. 458 00:23:13,567 --> 00:23:18,200 And I'm thinking to myself, "Who loads up two little kids 459 00:23:18,233 --> 00:23:21,333 "and goes out to the middle of the desert 460 00:23:21,367 --> 00:23:25,734 knowing that there is a severe winter storm moving in?" 461 00:23:50,100 --> 00:23:53,133 - I'm thinking to myself, "What the [bleep]?" 462 00:23:56,667 --> 00:24:00,633 [dramatic music] 463 00:24:05,333 --> 00:24:06,700 - On the day Susan disappeared, 464 00:24:06,734 --> 00:24:09,734 police questioned Josh for only an hour. 465 00:24:09,767 --> 00:24:12,133 Afterwards, they released him with the agreement 466 00:24:12,166 --> 00:24:16,233 that he'd return for a scheduled interview the next morning. 467 00:24:16,533 --> 00:24:18,367 - We took Josh back to his home 468 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,200 and released the house to him. 469 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,166 We talked about whether if we had enough probable cause 470 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:30,133 to do a search warrant for the home and for the vehicle. 471 00:24:30,700 --> 00:24:34,133 The conclusion was that we did not 472 00:24:34,166 --> 00:24:35,600 and so we left. 473 00:24:39,166 --> 00:24:41,600 If there's anything different I could have done in the case, 474 00:24:41,633 --> 00:24:44,767 it would have been to author a search warrant that night, 475 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,367 submit it, and if it was approved, 476 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,166 then we would execute it, 477 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:54,266 if it wasn't, then we would just move forward. 478 00:24:54,300 --> 00:25:02,500 [suspenseful music] 479 00:25:02,533 --> 00:25:04,266 [Jennifer] That morning my mom and I decided 480 00:25:04,300 --> 00:25:06,767 to go back over there. 481 00:25:08,033 --> 00:25:11,433 We actually got there just before he was supposed to be 482 00:25:11,467 --> 00:25:14,066 doing his police appointment. 483 00:25:14,100 --> 00:25:17,400 [Ellis] When Jennifer Graves and Terrica Powell 484 00:25:17,433 --> 00:25:20,000 show up there, he- he's cleaning out his car, 485 00:25:20,033 --> 00:25:21,533 he's doing laundry, 486 00:25:21,567 --> 00:25:24,333 he's doing these things when he should be at the 487 00:25:24,367 --> 00:25:27,533 police department sitting down with me doing an interview. 488 00:25:27,567 --> 00:25:31,066 [dramatic music] 489 00:25:31,100 --> 00:25:32,567 [Jennifer] He's like wondering around through 490 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,600 the whole house picking up things, 491 00:25:34,633 --> 00:25:38,200 trading out laundry out of the washer/dryer. 492 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,233 This whole situation was odd. 493 00:25:42,266 --> 00:25:44,633 I didn't know what he was really doing, ya know? 494 00:25:44,667 --> 00:25:47,300 Did he do something to Susan? 495 00:25:51,667 --> 00:25:54,133 - Josh arrived at the West Valley City Police Department 496 00:25:54,166 --> 00:25:57,333 for his interview nearly four hours late 497 00:25:57,367 --> 00:25:59,233 and offered no explanation. 498 00:26:06,033 --> 00:26:08,166 - It's been 10 years since Josh's interview 499 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:09,567 with Detective Maxwell. 500 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,200 What was his strategy? 501 00:26:11,233 --> 00:26:15,100 What techniques did he use to get information out of Josh? 502 00:26:15,500 --> 00:26:16,700 Go back to that day. 503 00:26:16,734 --> 00:26:19,033 What are you feeling knowing his coming in 504 00:26:19,066 --> 00:26:21,400 and you get your crack at him, basically? 505 00:26:21,433 --> 00:26:23,467 - I want to reach in there and slap him. 506 00:26:23,500 --> 00:26:24,333 [laughs] 507 00:26:25,266 --> 00:26:27,066 [Stephanie] He looks annoyed. 508 00:26:27,100 --> 00:26:28,133 [Ellis] Yeah. 509 00:26:28,166 --> 00:26:29,233 - Annoyed to be there, almost. - Maybe. 510 00:26:29,266 --> 00:26:30,700 - The way he leans back sort of like, 511 00:26:30,734 --> 00:26:32,233 "I don't really feel like being here. 512 00:26:32,266 --> 00:26:33,500 This is a waste of my time." 513 00:26:33,533 --> 00:26:34,500 Did you get that feeling? 514 00:26:34,533 --> 00:26:35,500 - Oh yeah, absolutely. 515 00:26:35,533 --> 00:26:38,266 So I'm irritated, I'm upset, 516 00:26:38,300 --> 00:26:41,633 and I'm nervous because what has he been doing 517 00:26:41,667 --> 00:26:43,767 for the last three and a half hours? 518 00:27:02,700 --> 00:27:05,233 - Susan would not have allowed 519 00:27:05,266 --> 00:27:07,100 him to leave in the middle of the night 520 00:27:07,133 --> 00:27:08,767 with two little kids to go out to the west desert 521 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,367 when there's a storm moving in. 522 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,400 - How are you responding to this? 523 00:27:13,433 --> 00:27:17,233 Are you making him feel like your story's crazy, come on, 524 00:27:17,266 --> 00:27:20,633 or are you allowing him to give you more, more, more? 525 00:27:20,667 --> 00:27:23,133 - I'm trying to just let him talk. 526 00:27:31,033 --> 00:27:34,233 - We located Susan's phone the night before. 527 00:27:34,266 --> 00:27:36,400 Josh let it in the mini-van. 528 00:27:36,433 --> 00:27:37,767 I pressed him a little bit saying, 529 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,133 "Yeah but this is her phone. 530 00:27:40,166 --> 00:27:42,700 There's no reason for you to have her phone." 531 00:27:42,734 --> 00:27:43,767 - Mm-hmm [affirmative] 532 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,166 [Ellis] And you're calling her phone. 533 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,700 You know you have her phone, but you're calling her phone. 534 00:27:48,734 --> 00:27:50,567 "Well I forgot I had her phone". 535 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,300 Just all nonsense. 536 00:27:52,333 --> 00:27:54,166 He's full of lies. 537 00:28:01,066 --> 00:28:02,734 - My blood pressures got to be up right now. 538 00:28:02,767 --> 00:28:04,300 I mean look at him. 539 00:28:04,333 --> 00:28:05,500 Look at him just sit there. 540 00:28:05,533 --> 00:28:10,400 He does not- he does not express any remorse, 541 00:28:10,433 --> 00:28:12,367 any concern... 542 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,033 he's just sitting there nonchalant. 543 00:28:15,066 --> 00:28:17,066 He doesn't care that his wife's missing. 544 00:28:38,767 --> 00:28:40,333 - He jumped all over that. 545 00:28:52,033 --> 00:28:55,300 - I think the reason why he jumped all over that is because 546 00:28:55,333 --> 00:28:59,233 he didn't have anything else to offer to us. 547 00:28:59,266 --> 00:29:03,033 Cause what he did have to offer to us, he couldn't, 548 00:29:03,066 --> 00:29:05,633 because it would implicate him. 549 00:29:07,166 --> 00:29:09,767 I had no doubt that he was responsible, 550 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,300 however I could not prove it. 551 00:29:12,333 --> 00:29:15,233 [Josh] [sobbing] 552 00:29:15,266 --> 00:29:18,100 - After I interviewed Josh, I explained to him, 553 00:29:18,133 --> 00:29:21,100 "Hey, we've secured a search warrant for your house. 554 00:29:21,133 --> 00:29:22,734 "They're almost finished with your van. 555 00:29:22,767 --> 00:29:25,734 "If you'll be patient, we'll get your van back to you 556 00:29:25,767 --> 00:29:27,266 within the hour." 557 00:29:27,300 --> 00:29:28,500 [Josh] I can leave? 558 00:29:28,533 --> 00:29:29,667 [Ellis] Yeah, if you want to leave, you can leave. 559 00:29:29,700 --> 00:29:31,567 [Josh] Now, and you're keeping my phone or? 560 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,133 [Ellis] I'm gonna keep your phone. 561 00:29:33,166 --> 00:29:34,400 [door closes] 562 00:29:34,433 --> 00:29:37,100 Josh hung out in the lobby of the police department 563 00:29:37,133 --> 00:29:41,467 for maybe 15-20 minutes, and then he just left. 564 00:29:41,500 --> 00:29:49,333 [dramatic music] 565 00:29:49,367 --> 00:29:53,667 The next day, we learned Josh had rented a car. 566 00:29:53,700 --> 00:29:56,000 - When Josh finished his interview, 567 00:29:56,033 --> 00:29:58,000 police had not finished searching his car. 568 00:29:58,033 --> 00:29:59,300 They told him to wait 569 00:29:59,333 --> 00:30:01,333 and they'd return his van to him shortly. 570 00:30:01,367 --> 00:30:03,467 Instead, he called a taxi, 571 00:30:03,500 --> 00:30:07,233 went to the Salt Lake City Airport, and rented a car. 572 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,533 He would have had his own car back in 15 minutes, 573 00:30:10,567 --> 00:30:13,367 so why would he pay to rent one? 574 00:30:15,633 --> 00:30:19,166 [Ellis] Josh put, I believe, 806 miles on it. 575 00:30:19,467 --> 00:30:21,600 806 miles is a long ways. 576 00:30:21,633 --> 00:30:24,100 He could have went into southern Idaho. 577 00:30:24,133 --> 00:30:25,600 He could have went into Wyoming, 578 00:30:25,633 --> 00:30:26,633 Colorado, 579 00:30:26,667 --> 00:30:28,100 Nevada, 580 00:30:28,133 --> 00:30:29,567 Oregon. 581 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,300 What that meant to me was, 582 00:30:32,333 --> 00:30:35,266 did he take her body and move it somewhere else? 583 00:30:35,533 --> 00:30:38,033 - Josh was gone for 20 hours 584 00:30:38,066 --> 00:30:41,166 and put over 800 miles on his rental car. 585 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,033 To this day, we still don't know where Josh went, 586 00:30:44,066 --> 00:30:47,000 what he was doing, and who he was with. 587 00:30:48,567 --> 00:30:53,333 - Some people believe he met up with his dad, Steven Powell. 588 00:30:54,266 --> 00:30:56,133 [Stephanie] On the night Josh is unaccounted for, 589 00:30:56,166 --> 00:30:59,300 there is zero activity on his cell phone. 590 00:30:59,333 --> 00:31:03,567 Interestingly, there's also zero activity on his father, 591 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,033 Steve's, phone. 592 00:31:05,066 --> 00:31:06,734 No one called Josh or Steve 593 00:31:06,767 --> 00:31:09,266 and neither of them reached out to anyone? 594 00:31:09,300 --> 00:31:12,033 This is the day after Susan disappeared, 595 00:31:12,066 --> 00:31:16,100 and both of them are off the grid at the same time. 596 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:17,567 - And here I am. 597 00:31:18,166 --> 00:31:20,333 [Stephanie] Could Steve be connected? 598 00:31:20,367 --> 00:31:25,100 Does he hold the answers to why Susan disappeared? 599 00:31:26,133 --> 00:31:28,066 - Steve was gone from work; 600 00:31:28,100 --> 00:31:32,533 his telephone was completely shut down for one entire day. 601 00:31:32,567 --> 00:31:34,000 He knows something. 602 00:31:35,033 --> 00:31:37,066 He knows something. 603 00:31:40,767 --> 00:31:49,133 [eerie music] 604 00:31:54,033 --> 00:31:56,066 - It was strange how this- all of a sudden, 605 00:31:56,100 --> 00:31:59,500 this story about Susan's disappearance 606 00:31:59,533 --> 00:32:01,600 and Josh as a possible suspect 607 00:32:01,633 --> 00:32:04,533 started to sort of branch out in another direction 608 00:32:04,567 --> 00:32:08,433 and all of a sudden Steve Powell became part of the story. 609 00:32:11,467 --> 00:32:13,734 - I know that Josh and Steve are close 610 00:32:13,767 --> 00:32:17,266 so, as the investigation progressed forward, 611 00:32:17,300 --> 00:32:20,633 my partners went up there within the week or two 612 00:32:20,667 --> 00:32:22,533 and interviewed Steve. 613 00:32:22,567 --> 00:32:29,200 [dramatic music] 614 00:32:41,667 --> 00:32:45,000 - He became a little bit more interesting of a person 615 00:32:45,033 --> 00:32:50,166 because he openly admitted this infatuation 616 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,500 that he had with Susan. 617 00:32:52,300 --> 00:32:54,133 [Steve] You have a nice profile too. 618 00:32:54,166 --> 00:32:57,100 It's really, um, pretty. 619 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,333 - I don't even pretend to be in his brain 620 00:33:19,367 --> 00:33:22,066 figuring out why he was obsessed about Susan. 621 00:33:22,100 --> 00:33:25,600 I have no idea why he targeted her. 622 00:33:25,633 --> 00:33:28,166 [faucet running] 623 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:29,734 - You're staring at me. 624 00:33:30,567 --> 00:33:32,467 [Jennifer] I think it bothered Josh a great deal, 625 00:33:32,500 --> 00:33:35,333 but my dad was able to make him believe that 626 00:33:35,367 --> 00:33:37,633 there was really nothing there. 627 00:33:38,166 --> 00:33:40,200 - The video you're about to see is footage shot 628 00:33:40,233 --> 00:33:43,500 by Steve Powell that has never been seen outside 629 00:33:43,533 --> 00:33:45,133 the police investigation. 630 00:33:45,166 --> 00:33:48,333 [dramatic music] 631 00:33:48,367 --> 00:33:49,734 - I'm gonna walk past you now, 632 00:33:49,767 --> 00:33:51,467 so you'll have to turn off the camera. 633 00:33:51,500 --> 00:33:52,467 [Steve] Okay. 634 00:33:52,500 --> 00:33:53,633 [Susan] No. 635 00:33:53,667 --> 00:33:55,700 [Steve] Oh, move your hand, move the box. 636 00:33:57,433 --> 00:34:00,100 - Steven Powell was narcissistic, 637 00:34:00,133 --> 00:34:01,767 very self-absorbed, 638 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,200 out of touch with reality. 639 00:34:04,233 --> 00:34:07,367 He was under the impression that any time he was 640 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,767 with Susan or saw Susan, she was hitting on him, 641 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,133 that she was interested in him. 642 00:34:24,266 --> 00:34:26,266 [Ellis] He was infatuated with her. 643 00:34:34,033 --> 00:34:35,300 [Ellis] He would video her. 644 00:34:35,333 --> 00:34:38,066 He would be inside of his van 645 00:34:38,100 --> 00:34:41,400 and video her walking to and from buildings. 646 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,166 [Anne] Steven was obsessed with her. 647 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,433 Steven had journals about her. 648 00:35:02,767 --> 00:35:05,233 Steven had pictures of her. 649 00:35:06,133 --> 00:35:08,667 Steven morphed pictures of himself with her. 650 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,233 - So ... 651 00:35:12,300 --> 00:35:14,700 I probably do some pretty... 652 00:35:15,467 --> 00:35:17,500 well some people might think they're weird. 653 00:35:26,467 --> 00:35:28,166 I think she's the most beautiful thing 654 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,667 that ever walked the Earth. 655 00:35:30,700 --> 00:35:33,433 - It progressively gets worse and worse and worse. 656 00:35:33,467 --> 00:35:35,600 [Steve] What I'd like to is to have- 657 00:35:35,633 --> 00:35:38,367 be able to do this actually on her body. 658 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,166 - If somebody looked at this case 659 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,633 and they only looked at Steven Powell ... 660 00:35:45,567 --> 00:35:47,166 - I'm pretty sweaty. 661 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,166 - I think they would be quick to say 662 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,533 he was responsible for her disappearance. 663 00:35:55,767 --> 00:35:58,300 - In reading Steve's journals and reviewing hours 664 00:35:58,333 --> 00:36:00,100 of his personal home videos, 665 00:36:00,133 --> 00:36:03,300 it's clear, his obsession began eight years 666 00:36:03,333 --> 00:36:07,367 before she disappeared when Josh and Susan lived with Steve 667 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,266 for a brief period of time. 668 00:36:09,300 --> 00:36:16,433 [eerie music] 669 00:36:16,467 --> 00:36:20,066 - I've been in love with her for 670 00:36:20,100 --> 00:36:22,033 a year and a half or more now. 671 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,033 I can't even think of anything else. 672 00:36:26,633 --> 00:36:28,066 [giggling] 673 00:36:28,100 --> 00:36:31,433 - Josh actually screwed up another job situation, 674 00:36:31,467 --> 00:36:34,734 and they had to move out of where they were 675 00:36:34,767 --> 00:36:38,100 and they moved in with my dad. 676 00:36:38,133 --> 00:36:39,667 [Steve] I think it's a comforter. 677 00:36:40,233 --> 00:36:43,667 - Susan first told me that her father-in-law 678 00:36:43,700 --> 00:36:47,400 had a crush on her, which I thought maybe... 679 00:36:47,433 --> 00:36:49,400 that's kind of odd. 680 00:36:50,367 --> 00:36:52,033 [Steve] Oh by the way I got those pictures back 681 00:36:52,066 --> 00:36:53,533 I took of you in the mall. 682 00:36:53,567 --> 00:36:55,233 - In the parking lot? [laughs] 683 00:36:55,266 --> 00:36:56,600 [Steve] Right. 684 00:36:56,633 --> 00:36:58,367 - Those who knew Steve Powell have distanced themselves 685 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,367 in light of these disturbing revelations. 686 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,433 This is an exclusive interview with a woman who had 687 00:37:04,467 --> 00:37:06,467 a long-standing friendship with Steve. 688 00:37:06,500 --> 00:37:10,066 So we've agreed to protect her anonymity and appearance. 689 00:37:56,700 --> 00:38:01,133 - My dad came onto Susan and made an offer like, 690 00:38:01,166 --> 00:38:03,100 "Well let's just share. 691 00:38:03,133 --> 00:38:05,166 Josh and I can just share you." 692 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,133 And Susan was so mortified and disturbed, 693 00:38:08,166 --> 00:38:12,734 she was a newlywed, and completely devoted to Josh. 694 00:38:14,333 --> 00:38:18,033 This idea was completely disgusting to her. 695 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,600 [Denise] She was not happy about that. 696 00:38:21,633 --> 00:38:24,233 Ya know, shortly after she told me about 697 00:38:24,266 --> 00:38:26,767 his advances toward her, they moved. 698 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,233 - Susan was really dedicated to her marriage 699 00:38:31,266 --> 00:38:33,000 and really dedicated to her children. 700 00:38:33,033 --> 00:38:36,400 She really, really wanted to make it work. 701 00:38:36,433 --> 00:38:39,166 And it was okay for a little while. 702 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,767 - Susan had no idea what she married into. 703 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,567 Imagine trying to raise two children while navigating 704 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,166 severe emotional abuse by your husband 705 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,367 and your father-in-law. 706 00:38:52,734 --> 00:38:55,600 - Unfortunately, for women in Utah, 707 00:38:55,633 --> 00:38:59,533 domestic violence is a very significant reality. 708 00:38:59,567 --> 00:39:02,700 Nationally, about 30% of homicides are perpetrated 709 00:39:02,734 --> 00:39:05,166 by a current or former intimate partner. 710 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:10,033 In Utah, back to the year 2000, it's at least 42%, 711 00:39:10,066 --> 00:39:12,367 some years as high as 55%. 712 00:39:13,567 --> 00:39:17,066 Rules within the LDS faith are not always friendly to women. 713 00:39:17,100 --> 00:39:20,367 They're very limiting and they're very traditional, 714 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,633 and they give a lot of power to men. 715 00:39:23,667 --> 00:39:26,066 [Denise] Susan felt she could make things better, 716 00:39:26,100 --> 00:39:29,166 and if she just kept going to church and did what 717 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,734 the Lord wanted her to do, then things would work out, 718 00:39:32,767 --> 00:39:37,533 and no matter what I said, she just refused to leave him. 719 00:39:38,767 --> 00:39:42,166 - After a while, Josh started talking to my dad again. 720 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,433 And he was able to convince him that it was all 721 00:39:45,467 --> 00:39:48,700 a misunderstanding and Susan was just wrong, 722 00:39:48,734 --> 00:39:52,033 and misrepresenting the situation, 723 00:39:52,066 --> 00:39:53,300 or lying to him. 724 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,633 [Kiirsi] Every single time he got off the phone 725 00:39:55,667 --> 00:39:57,767 with his dad, they would get into a huge argument. 726 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,200 Josh would just be really argumentative and really 727 00:40:00,233 --> 00:40:02,400 awful to her, and so she said, 728 00:40:02,433 --> 00:40:06,500 "His dad is trying to pull us apart on purpose", 729 00:40:06,533 --> 00:40:08,066 and I said, "Why would he do that, 730 00:40:08,100 --> 00:40:11,500 why would he want his son to lose his marriage?" 731 00:40:11,533 --> 00:40:13,633 And she said, "Because he wants me for himself." 732 00:40:15,433 --> 00:40:16,767 And she said, "Josh's dad has been obsessed with me 733 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,400 for a long time." 734 00:40:18,433 --> 00:40:19,734 And I pushed her and I kept at her 735 00:40:19,767 --> 00:40:21,533 until she went to a divorce lawyer. 736 00:40:21,567 --> 00:40:23,500 - We are in the Sarah Circle house. 737 00:40:23,533 --> 00:40:25,500 This is me, hi, sorry. 738 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,000 [Kiirsi] She said, "Okay this is what he told me to do, 739 00:40:28,033 --> 00:40:30,600 he told me to walk through the house with a video camera 740 00:40:30,633 --> 00:40:32,500 and record everything in the house." 741 00:40:33,066 --> 00:40:34,300 [Susan] Just in case. 742 00:40:34,333 --> 00:40:37,066 [Kiirsi] "And he told me to put that on a disk, 743 00:40:37,100 --> 00:40:39,367 and keep it somewhere safe away from the house." 744 00:40:40,166 --> 00:40:43,567 - She said, "In case anything ever happens to me..." 745 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,500 and I always thought that was so weird of a thing for her to say. 746 00:40:46,533 --> 00:40:48,433 "In case anything happens to me" 747 00:40:49,500 --> 00:40:51,433 So she was expecting it. 748 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,166 - Hope everything works out and we're all happy and... 749 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,166 live happily ever after as much as that's possible. 750 00:41:00,467 --> 00:41:02,133 - She gave him an ultimatum. 751 00:41:02,166 --> 00:41:05,033 You need to shape up, or I'm going to get a divorce. 752 00:41:05,066 --> 00:41:07,266 [Jennifer] Josh was backed into a corner. 753 00:41:07,300 --> 00:41:09,233 I knew he would explode. 754 00:41:09,700 --> 00:41:13,700 - She wrote, "If I die, it may not be an accident. 755 00:41:13,734 --> 00:41:15,734 Even if it looks like one." 756 00:41:20,467 --> 00:41:20,767 [dramatic music] 757 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,166 [Ellis] As the days move on, 758 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,133 we don't have the evidence to support that Josh 759 00:41:29,166 --> 00:41:32,033 is responsible for Susan's disappearance, 760 00:41:32,066 --> 00:41:35,166 but detectives went out to Susan's employer 761 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,300 and the staff told us that she had a safe deposit box. 762 00:41:40,667 --> 00:41:43,200 - Susan Cox Powell's safety deposit box 763 00:41:43,233 --> 00:41:46,133 contained two startling pieces of evidence. 764 00:41:46,166 --> 00:41:49,166 The first was a self-made home video in which she 765 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,166 documented all the assets in her house. 766 00:41:53,633 --> 00:41:55,767 - Covering all my bases, making sure that if 767 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,600 something happens to me or my family or all of us 768 00:41:58,633 --> 00:42:01,667 that our assets are documented. 769 00:42:03,100 --> 00:42:04,734 [Stephanie] The second item was a will that she 770 00:42:04,767 --> 00:42:08,066 had hand-written on a loose-leaf piece of paper. 771 00:42:08,700 --> 00:42:10,633 On the front Susan wrote, 772 00:42:10,667 --> 00:42:13,100 "For the family and friends of Susan, 773 00:42:13,133 --> 00:42:15,734 "all accept Josh Powell, husband, 774 00:42:15,767 --> 00:42:17,400 I don't trust him." 775 00:42:19,467 --> 00:42:21,367 [Ellis] It was- 776 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,066 it was emotional. 777 00:42:25,133 --> 00:42:27,133 It's like, man, what is in this thing. 778 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:29,700 - Every day in the U.S., 779 00:42:29,734 --> 00:42:32,500 more than three woman are killed by their 780 00:42:32,533 --> 00:42:34,367 husbands or boyfriends. 781 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,767 Imagine being abused by the person you love, 782 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,367 who you chose to marry, and feeling so helpless 783 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:46,233 that you write a will and hide it in case he kills you. 784 00:42:46,266 --> 00:42:50,100 She wrote "If I die, it may not be an accident, 785 00:42:50,133 --> 00:42:51,767 "even if it looks like one. 786 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,333 Take care of my boys." 787 00:42:54,367 --> 00:42:56,200 - Several people are now wondering what went on 788 00:42:56,233 --> 00:42:58,333 behind closed doors of the Powell residence. 789 00:42:58,367 --> 00:43:02,600 - They were not really communicating well, 790 00:43:02,633 --> 00:43:05,033 and I think she was contemplating 791 00:43:05,066 --> 00:43:06,700 divorcing him at that point. 792 00:43:07,500 --> 00:43:09,734 - Now according to public record, Josh had filed for 793 00:43:09,767 --> 00:43:13,333 bankruptcy because they were $200,000 in debt. 794 00:43:15,266 --> 00:43:17,433 - He would try to control the money and she had to 795 00:43:17,467 --> 00:43:19,767 hide money here and there. 796 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,100 - Susan was given a- 797 00:43:24,133 --> 00:43:26,400 a very small spending allowance, 798 00:43:26,433 --> 00:43:28,166 less than a hundred bucks. 799 00:43:29,033 --> 00:43:31,133 That was what she bought food on. 800 00:43:31,166 --> 00:43:33,700 That's what she paid for gas on. 801 00:43:33,734 --> 00:43:36,400 - He got mad at her for giving the boys 802 00:43:36,433 --> 00:43:38,700 each an entire hot dog. 803 00:43:39,700 --> 00:43:43,166 Instead of cutting one in half and them eating half a hot dog. 804 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,734 - Josh got rid of their second car 805 00:43:47,767 --> 00:43:49,266 and that was another way he had to control her, 806 00:43:49,300 --> 00:43:52,133 he claimed it was costing too much gas. 807 00:43:52,166 --> 00:43:54,066 She had to ride a bike to work seven miles 808 00:43:54,100 --> 00:43:57,066 on a very, very busy road. 809 00:43:57,100 --> 00:43:59,533 [Kirk] Josh just had an absolute control 810 00:43:59,567 --> 00:44:01,100 over what went on. 811 00:44:05,333 --> 00:44:08,433 - Hope everything works out and we're all happy and... 812 00:44:08,467 --> 00:44:11,400 live happily ever after as much as that's possible. 813 00:44:12,333 --> 00:44:16,700 - I hope that if I have other friends in this situation 814 00:44:16,734 --> 00:44:19,467 that I can help them figure out who to talk to, 815 00:44:19,500 --> 00:44:21,567 which direction to take. 816 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,433 - He was losing control. 817 00:44:23,467 --> 00:44:26,533 Definitely losing control in a number of ways. 818 00:44:27,133 --> 00:44:30,367 Probably including a likely divorce. 819 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,600 - That spring, she kind of gave him an ultimatum 820 00:44:34,633 --> 00:44:36,233 like you need to shape up 821 00:44:36,266 --> 00:44:38,266 or I'm going to get a divorce. 822 00:44:39,133 --> 00:44:42,200 You need to start loving me like you loved me, 823 00:44:42,233 --> 00:44:44,700 supporting me, going to church, 824 00:44:44,734 --> 00:44:46,333 helping with the kids, 825 00:44:46,367 --> 00:44:48,200 being compassionate. 826 00:44:48,233 --> 00:44:52,266 And I think something took place in that house... 827 00:44:52,300 --> 00:44:53,633 that evening... 828 00:44:54,266 --> 00:44:57,166 [Stephanie] Is this the motive for Susan's murder 829 00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:01,433 or is Steve Powell's obsession the real cause? 830 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,667 Detective Maxwell thinks Susan Cox Powell 831 00:45:04,700 --> 00:45:07,567 was most likely killed by her husband 832 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,266 the night she went missing. 833 00:45:21,233 --> 00:45:24,500 It was interesting because I asked to see his hands 834 00:45:24,533 --> 00:45:29,367 and the next time I see him, I take pictures of his hands, 835 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:34,100 he was very concerned that I was interested in his hands. 836 00:45:34,133 --> 00:45:35,500 And I thought that was kind of funny, 837 00:45:35,533 --> 00:45:37,633 and he was pointing out well I've got a little nick here, 838 00:45:37,667 --> 00:45:39,200 and I've got dry hands. 839 00:45:39,233 --> 00:45:41,533 [Chris] They had left him in the room for a moment. 840 00:45:41,567 --> 00:45:44,767 I just remember him, the way he looked at his hands 841 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,166 and the way he was squeezing them together, 842 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:51,166 and I wonder what was he looking at and what was he remembering. 843 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,066 What did he see in his hands? 844 00:45:53,100 --> 00:45:55,367 I mean, it just makes you think that those hands 845 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,600 had something to do with her death and disappearance. 846 00:45:59,266 --> 00:46:00,667 - See, right here he's looking at his hands again, 847 00:46:00,700 --> 00:46:03,633 he's so worried about his hands. 848 00:46:15,700 --> 00:46:17,000 - He's concerned. 849 00:46:17,033 --> 00:46:19,533 He's concerned that maybe he slipped up. 850 00:46:19,567 --> 00:46:22,000 As you can see, he's looking at his hands again. 851 00:46:22,033 --> 00:46:23,767 - Again with the hands. - Right. 852 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,400 You know, that's what leads me to believe that 853 00:46:25,433 --> 00:46:26,767 he strangled her. 854 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,600 Those hands, right there, that's what took Susan's life. 855 00:46:34,734 --> 00:46:36,200 - This is a police photo taken 856 00:46:36,233 --> 00:46:38,734 the day that Susan was reported missing. 857 00:46:38,767 --> 00:46:41,467 It shows the tile beside the couch, 858 00:46:41,500 --> 00:46:44,300 the same couch police discovered had been 859 00:46:44,333 --> 00:46:47,433 freshly cleaned the day they searched the home. 860 00:46:47,467 --> 00:46:50,400 Did Josh clean the couch to cover up what happened, 861 00:46:50,433 --> 00:46:55,000 but miss the blood caused by Susan's murder? 862 00:46:55,033 --> 00:46:57,233 [Ellis] The blood droplets are off to the left 863 00:46:57,266 --> 00:46:59,033 of the armrest on the title. 864 00:46:59,066 --> 00:47:01,100 Come from her maybe coughing? 865 00:47:01,133 --> 00:47:03,200 Because they're really minute, they're tiny, 866 00:47:03,233 --> 00:47:05,300 little just droplets. 867 00:47:05,333 --> 00:47:09,433 And I think that's where he tries to strangle her 868 00:47:09,467 --> 00:47:10,567 and suffocate her. 869 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:13,633 [Stephanie] We're driving through one of the big highways 870 00:47:13,667 --> 00:47:15,667 in Salt Lake I-80. 871 00:47:15,700 --> 00:47:18,233 All I can think about is 872 00:47:18,266 --> 00:47:21,600 did Josh Powell drive on this very road with his sons 873 00:47:21,633 --> 00:47:26,400 in the back seat and his dead wife in the back of their car? 874 00:47:26,633 --> 00:47:28,233 Is that conceivable? 875 00:47:29,266 --> 00:47:33,333 Who was involved, how deep does this conspiracy go, 876 00:47:33,367 --> 00:47:36,333 does this crime go, does this plan go? 877 00:47:36,367 --> 00:47:39,700 If he got rid of Susan, did Steve help him plan it 878 00:47:39,734 --> 00:47:43,100 and then help him dispose of the body after the fact? 879 00:47:45,033 --> 00:47:49,667 [dramatic music] 880 00:47:49,700 --> 00:47:52,600 - Detectives met again this morning and they say that they 881 00:47:52,633 --> 00:47:56,066 are frustrated that they have had no real significant 882 00:47:56,100 --> 00:47:58,367 developments in Susan Powell's disappearance, 883 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,433 it's like she just vanished into thin air. 884 00:48:01,467 --> 00:48:03,467 - Three days after Susan's disappearance, 885 00:48:03,500 --> 00:48:06,467 local media descended onto West Valley City. 886 00:48:06,500 --> 00:48:09,633 At the same time, local police where tirelessly 887 00:48:09,667 --> 00:48:13,066 searching the vast desert were Josh claims 888 00:48:13,100 --> 00:48:16,133 he went camping the night Susan went missing. 889 00:48:16,166 --> 00:48:17,767 [Reporter] Detectives have named Josh Powell 890 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,233 a person of interest in the case. 891 00:48:20,266 --> 00:48:22,633 - I wanted to make sure that everything 892 00:48:22,667 --> 00:48:25,433 was investigated that needed to be investigated. 893 00:48:25,467 --> 00:48:28,166 The last thing that the department wanted 894 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,600 is to have Josh charged 895 00:48:30,633 --> 00:48:34,400 and he get off because he don't have a body. 896 00:48:37,467 --> 00:48:41,533 [eerie music] 897 00:48:41,567 --> 00:48:44,100 During the course of conducting our interviews 898 00:48:44,133 --> 00:48:46,266 with friends and family, 899 00:48:46,300 --> 00:48:49,400 one individual shared that months prior 900 00:48:49,433 --> 00:48:52,600 they got talking about crime television shows. 901 00:49:13,300 --> 00:49:16,133 - Josh told them the best place to hide a body 902 00:49:16,166 --> 00:49:17,333 would be in a mine. 903 00:49:17,367 --> 00:49:20,333 There's thousands of these mines 904 00:49:20,367 --> 00:49:23,767 and therefore, ya know, the body would never be discovered. 905 00:49:24,467 --> 00:49:27,033 Going through Josh's computer files that we did have 906 00:49:27,066 --> 00:49:32,133 access to, he did research the area of Simpson Springs 907 00:49:32,166 --> 00:49:33,734 which is out in the west desert. 908 00:49:33,767 --> 00:49:36,667 He researched Ely, Nevada. 909 00:49:36,700 --> 00:49:40,667 He researched all kinds of remote areas like that 910 00:49:40,700 --> 00:49:42,500 where there are mines. 911 00:49:43,533 --> 00:49:46,500 Did he take her out there and dump her off in a mine? 912 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:48,767 Maybe. 913 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,633 - I think people don't realize here in Utah, 914 00:49:51,667 --> 00:49:56,000 you've got mountains and it's tough to drive places. 915 00:49:56,033 --> 00:49:58,700 It's rarely just a straight flat line to get to where 916 00:49:58,734 --> 00:50:00,033 you want to go. 917 00:50:02,533 --> 00:50:06,033 It took a long time just to get out to the west desert of Utah 918 00:50:06,066 --> 00:50:07,367 to some of these search spots. 919 00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,367 Then once you get there, you've got rolling hills, 920 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,734 ravines, canyons, gullies, 921 00:50:12,767 --> 00:50:16,266 it's just physically difficult to search some of the spots 922 00:50:16,300 --> 00:50:18,667 that they were searching for Susan Powell. 923 00:50:19,633 --> 00:50:21,734 - Now, once again, Josh Powell is a person of interest 924 00:50:21,767 --> 00:50:23,000 in this case. 925 00:50:23,033 --> 00:50:24,400 I've tried to get a comment from him, 926 00:50:24,433 --> 00:50:27,200 actually a couple days ago I knocked on his door 927 00:50:27,233 --> 00:50:29,133 and a man on the other side says, 928 00:50:29,166 --> 00:50:30,166 "He won't comment. 929 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:31,600 Get off the property". 930 00:50:31,633 --> 00:50:35,100 - The media attention had already gotten ridiculous, 931 00:50:35,133 --> 00:50:36,333 extreme. 932 00:50:36,367 --> 00:50:38,533 We had people coming to our house, news cameras, 933 00:50:38,567 --> 00:50:40,133 doing interviews. 934 00:50:40,166 --> 00:50:41,700 [Reporter] Yesterday, Josh Powell held a press conference 935 00:50:41,734 --> 00:50:44,567 through his brother-in-law Kirk Graves. 936 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:48,266 Powell wanted to set the record straight on speculation that 937 00:50:48,300 --> 00:50:51,367 Josh had something to do with Susan's disappearance. 938 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,333 [Kirk] The initial reaction was not rejection by 939 00:50:53,367 --> 00:50:54,700 the family for Josh. 940 00:50:54,734 --> 00:50:57,333 It wasn't, "Oh Josh, what have you done?" 941 00:50:57,367 --> 00:51:01,367 It's hard to know how to start a discussion like this. 942 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,667 There are so many emotions and so few facts. 943 00:51:04,700 --> 00:51:07,300 It was really the next week that the family 944 00:51:07,333 --> 00:51:09,500 started looking and saying, 945 00:51:09,533 --> 00:51:12,633 "This is just not right, something's really wrong." 946 00:51:12,667 --> 00:51:17,000 After Susan disappeared, Josh wouldn't say anything. 947 00:51:17,266 --> 00:51:19,266 He just wouldn't talk. 948 00:51:19,300 --> 00:51:21,667 [Stephanie] By all accounts, Josh had no problem 949 00:51:21,700 --> 00:51:23,266 expressing his opinion. 950 00:51:23,300 --> 00:51:26,700 Everyone I've talked to said he talked nonstop, 951 00:51:26,734 --> 00:51:30,066 but after Susan disappeared, he stopped talking. 952 00:51:30,100 --> 00:51:32,533 When he agreed to go back to be interviewed by police, 953 00:51:32,567 --> 00:51:36,066 this time with a lawyer, he wouldn't say a single word. 954 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,266 - Your wife's gone and you're not... 955 00:52:01,300 --> 00:52:04,233 contributing to the solution to the problem. 956 00:52:04,266 --> 00:52:06,300 - Chris Jones is on our top story tonight 957 00:52:06,333 --> 00:52:08,333 from West Valley, Chris? 958 00:52:08,367 --> 00:52:09,633 [Chris] We were at the Sarah Circle house. 959 00:52:09,667 --> 00:52:11,734 All the media was there, they'd been there for hours, 960 00:52:11,767 --> 00:52:13,700 and I had gotten Jennifer Graves' address. 961 00:52:13,734 --> 00:52:16,667 And I thought, well let's just, ya know, off chance that 962 00:52:16,700 --> 00:52:18,266 maybe he's there. 963 00:52:18,300 --> 00:52:22,200 So myself and our photographer, we drove over, we parked, 964 00:52:22,233 --> 00:52:25,533 and literally as soon as the wheels stopped in the snow, 965 00:52:25,567 --> 00:52:27,633 I'm like that's him, that's Josh. 966 00:52:27,667 --> 00:52:29,600 And we started rolling the camera. 967 00:52:29,633 --> 00:52:31,100 Josh? 968 00:52:31,133 --> 00:52:34,000 Hey, I'm Chris Jones from channel two, how are yeah? 969 00:52:34,033 --> 00:52:35,567 - I'm okay. - Yeah? 970 00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:37,467 We walk up to him, and I remember thinking 971 00:52:37,500 --> 00:52:39,700 okay, this is going to be a very sensitive, ya know, 972 00:52:39,734 --> 00:52:43,500 how do you do this interview without, ya know, 973 00:52:43,533 --> 00:52:45,567 getting him to spook and run away? 974 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:50,500 And the boys, I mean, what do you tell them about their mom? 975 00:52:53,100 --> 00:52:55,300 - I haven't told them anything. 976 00:52:55,333 --> 00:52:56,700 [Chris] As we started to get into some of those 977 00:52:56,734 --> 00:53:00,333 more difficult questions, his discomfort level 978 00:53:00,367 --> 00:53:02,700 started to rise, and so did mine. 979 00:53:02,734 --> 00:53:05,767 He tugged at his hat and had just like 980 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,100 bad answers for all these very basic questions. 981 00:53:09,133 --> 00:53:13,066 The report is neither you nor your wife called in sick 982 00:53:13,100 --> 00:53:16,767 and they said that's not usual, what are your thoughts on that? 983 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,667 - Ya know, I didn't, uh... 984 00:53:19,700 --> 00:53:22,633 I was somehow thinking that it was Sunday. 985 00:53:22,667 --> 00:53:26,567 I didn't go to church and I... 986 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:27,633 I just... 987 00:53:27,667 --> 00:53:29,367 missed a day. 988 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,100 - He says, "Well, I didn't go to church. 989 00:53:31,133 --> 00:53:32,300 It was Sunday." 990 00:53:32,333 --> 00:53:34,633 But then the next day would clearly be Monday, 991 00:53:34,667 --> 00:53:39,300 so, um, you know, what exactly are you talking about? 992 00:53:39,333 --> 00:53:41,533 Did you think there were two Sundays in a row? 993 00:53:42,233 --> 00:53:45,000 Tell us what happened that night. 994 00:53:45,734 --> 00:53:47,734 - Yeah, I just... 995 00:53:47,767 --> 00:53:50,500 a lot of times I just go camping with my boys, ya know. 996 00:53:50,533 --> 00:53:52,500 - He is absolutely uncomfortable, 997 00:53:52,533 --> 00:53:55,467 but never once does he ask about, 998 00:53:55,500 --> 00:53:57,300 ya know, "What have you heard?" 999 00:53:57,333 --> 00:53:59,400 Or, "I wonder, where could she be?" 1000 00:53:59,433 --> 00:54:01,567 "Why are you here, why aren't you looking for her?" 1001 00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,633 There's absolutely no concern for her well-being at all. 1002 00:54:04,667 --> 00:54:08,633 It appears that your wife left her cell phone and purse, 1003 00:54:08,667 --> 00:54:11,266 do you have any idea- I mean does she go off 1004 00:54:11,300 --> 00:54:12,533 to sort of maybe clear her head, I mean, 1005 00:54:12,567 --> 00:54:15,033 do you have any idea where she could be? 1006 00:54:17,700 --> 00:54:19,000 - No. 1007 00:54:21,367 --> 00:54:24,000 - When you see his interview, you just say, 1008 00:54:24,033 --> 00:54:27,166 "Is that the way a guy acts when his wife has disappeared?" 1009 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,266 It's more the way he acts when she's been murdered... 1010 00:54:29,300 --> 00:54:30,433 by him. 1011 00:54:32,100 --> 00:54:33,667 - Where is Susan Cox Powell? 1012 00:54:33,700 --> 00:54:34,433 Who knew? 1013 00:54:34,467 --> 00:54:35,700 How many people knew? 1014 00:54:35,734 --> 00:54:37,133 Did anybody know? 1015 00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,033 - The rest of Josh's family? 1016 00:54:44,066 --> 00:54:45,033 Creepy. 1017 00:54:46,333 --> 00:54:48,166 - Steve basically brain-washed them. 1018 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,133 - Family can be a salvation 1019 00:54:50,166 --> 00:54:52,200 or an absolute destruction. 1020 00:54:52,233 --> 00:54:54,567 - The Powell family is not at all what they seem. 1021 00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,133 They know something. 1022 00:54:56,700 --> 00:54:59,100 [Stephanie] There's so much more to this case. 1023 00:54:59,133 --> 00:55:02,266 Dark secrets and disturbing revelations. 1024 00:55:09,233 --> 00:55:11,734 [dramatic music] 1025 00:55:11,767 --> 00:55:13,667 [Stephanie] Susan Cox Powell went missing 1026 00:55:13,700 --> 00:55:18,266 from her West Valley City home on December 6th, 2009. 1027 00:55:18,300 --> 00:55:20,233 [Reporter] Josh tells police he took their two young sons 1028 00:55:20,266 --> 00:55:23,300 camping at midnight in sub-zero temperatures. 1029 00:55:27,567 --> 00:55:29,033 - It makes no sense. 1030 00:55:30,066 --> 00:55:31,633 [Ellis] Yeah, if you want, you can leave. 1031 00:55:31,667 --> 00:55:34,533 I have no doubt that he is responsible; 1032 00:55:34,567 --> 00:55:36,633 however, I could not prove it. 1033 00:55:36,667 --> 00:55:39,300 - I did hear him tell her, 1034 00:55:39,333 --> 00:55:41,600 "Over my dead body will you have those boys. 1035 00:55:41,633 --> 00:55:44,000 Over my dead body will you leave me." 1036 00:55:44,033 --> 00:55:46,600 [Ellis] She had a safe deposit box and I was like, 1037 00:55:46,633 --> 00:55:48,734 "Man, what is in this thing?" 1038 00:55:48,767 --> 00:55:50,233 - Covering all my bases. 1039 00:55:50,266 --> 00:55:53,266 Making sure if something happens to me or my family 1040 00:55:53,300 --> 00:55:56,734 or all of us that our assets are documented. 1041 00:55:56,767 --> 00:55:58,000 - All of a sudden, 1042 00:55:58,033 --> 00:56:01,100 this story about Susan's disappearance 1043 00:56:01,133 --> 00:56:03,433 and Josh as a possible suspect 1044 00:56:03,467 --> 00:56:06,133 started to sort of branch out in another direction. 1045 00:56:06,166 --> 00:56:08,533 Steve Powell became part of the story. 1046 00:56:08,567 --> 00:56:10,333 - Josh's father was obsessed with her 1047 00:56:10,367 --> 00:56:12,734 and in love with her in a sick and twisted way. 1048 00:56:12,767 --> 00:56:16,133 - I've been in love with her for 1049 00:56:16,166 --> 00:56:18,166 a year and a half or more now. 1050 00:56:20,133 --> 00:56:23,166 - Steve Powell had an alibi the day Susan went missing. 1051 00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,500 He was in Washington state with his three adult children 1052 00:56:26,533 --> 00:56:28,633 who lived with him at the time. 1053 00:56:28,667 --> 00:56:31,133 If Susan was murdered by Josh, 1054 00:56:31,166 --> 00:56:34,066 Steve could not be physically involved, 1055 00:56:34,100 --> 00:56:38,000 but that doesn't mean he wasn't somehow connected. 1056 00:56:38,033 --> 00:56:41,266 Could Steve be the mastermind behind 1057 00:56:41,300 --> 00:56:43,066 Susan's disappearance? 1058 00:56:43,100 --> 00:56:46,367 Can a father's influence prove deadly? 1059 00:56:50,667 --> 00:57:01,166 [dramatic music] 1060 00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,467 - Over time, it became clear that there was 1061 00:57:04,500 --> 00:57:06,266 something off about every- 1062 00:57:06,300 --> 00:57:09,033 every member of the Powell family. 1063 00:57:09,266 --> 00:57:10,667 - I am at the head of the table. 1064 00:57:10,700 --> 00:57:12,233 [Michael] I am at the head of the table. 1065 00:57:12,266 --> 00:57:14,467 [Steve] Nobody is to defy my... 1066 00:57:14,500 --> 00:57:15,467 [Michael] My head [laughing] 1067 00:57:15,500 --> 00:57:16,400 [Steve] [laughing] My head. 1068 00:57:16,433 --> 00:57:18,066 [Michael] At the table. 1069 00:57:18,734 --> 00:57:20,033 - I'm the oldest, 1070 00:57:20,066 --> 00:57:22,700 and then Josh, he's the oldest boy, 1071 00:57:22,734 --> 00:57:27,066 then John, who was mentally ill. 1072 00:57:29,166 --> 00:57:32,100 And then Michael, who is the third, 1073 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,500 and finally my youngest sibling, Alina. 1074 00:57:38,633 --> 00:57:39,767 [Steve] So Alina is gonna try it too. 1075 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,100 I bet you she can't even hang on, 1076 00:57:42,133 --> 00:57:43,266 let alone pull herself up. 1077 00:57:43,300 --> 00:57:44,667 Oh, she pulled herself up, look at that! 1078 00:57:44,700 --> 00:57:45,767 - Shut up! 1079 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,200 - We were polar opposites to his family. 1080 00:57:48,233 --> 00:57:50,333 [Steve] Move that camera out of your face, 1081 00:57:50,367 --> 00:57:51,767 I'm gonna get a still. 1082 00:57:52,433 --> 00:57:55,033 Look, look mom, geez. 1083 00:57:55,066 --> 00:57:57,700 - Steve's rules were basically there are no rules, 1084 00:57:57,734 --> 00:58:00,500 except for when he says something or talks, 1085 00:58:00,533 --> 00:58:01,734 well, you're listening to him. 1086 00:58:01,767 --> 00:58:03,600 [Steve] Turn around this way okay, 1087 00:58:03,633 --> 00:58:04,667 just turn around to the- 1088 00:58:04,700 --> 00:58:06,133 there we go. 1089 00:58:06,166 --> 00:58:08,066 Well now, turn back this way. 1090 00:58:08,100 --> 00:58:10,333 - Aw geez, you lost your chance. 1091 00:58:10,367 --> 00:58:11,200 [Steve] Okay, okay. 1092 00:58:11,233 --> 00:58:13,000 - Family can be a salvation 1093 00:58:13,033 --> 00:58:15,233 or an absolute destruction. 1094 00:58:15,667 --> 00:58:19,133 - When I met the rest of Josh's family, 1095 00:58:19,166 --> 00:58:21,734 it was just like when I met him: 1096 00:58:21,767 --> 00:58:23,000 creepy. 1097 00:58:32,100 --> 00:58:38,133 [dramatic music] 1098 00:58:38,166 --> 00:58:42,734 - We had a strained and problematic family situation. 1099 00:58:42,767 --> 00:58:46,567 My dad was quite divisive and he would pit the 1100 00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:48,767 girls against the boys frequently. 1101 00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,300 And was really negative toward my mother. 1102 00:58:51,333 --> 00:58:53,433 He pretty much treated her like dirt. 1103 00:58:55,133 --> 00:58:56,633 - The dynamic of that Powell family 1104 00:58:56,667 --> 00:58:58,066 is very skewed, 1105 00:58:58,100 --> 00:59:02,400 it's not your average American family. 1106 00:59:02,700 --> 00:59:04,500 I interviewed Terrica. 1107 00:59:15,133 --> 00:59:18,000 - When we were kids, we wet our beds 1108 00:59:18,033 --> 00:59:21,200 and my dad found it really frustrating. 1109 00:59:22,433 --> 00:59:26,400 He would make us go get in a tub of ice cold water 1110 00:59:26,433 --> 00:59:30,567 and lay down all the way until we were up to our necks in it. 1111 00:59:32,066 --> 00:59:35,000 I don't know why he thought that would be helpful, 1112 00:59:35,033 --> 00:59:36,667 but somehow, he thought that he could just 1113 00:59:36,700 --> 00:59:38,500 mentally shock it out of us. 1114 01:00:22,066 --> 01:00:24,500 My dad had a pornography problem 1115 01:00:24,533 --> 01:00:26,300 as long as I could remember. 1116 01:00:28,266 --> 01:00:30,266 He traveled frequently 1117 01:00:30,300 --> 01:00:33,600 and there was a time I went on a business trip with him. 1118 01:00:33,633 --> 01:00:37,066 We were staying in a hotel and I was in my bed, 1119 01:00:37,100 --> 01:00:40,033 snuggled up under my blankets, 1120 01:00:40,066 --> 01:00:42,333 and he turned on the television 1121 01:00:42,367 --> 01:00:44,133 and started flipping through channels, 1122 01:00:44,166 --> 01:00:46,100 and settled on this... 1123 01:00:46,133 --> 01:00:49,400 totally x rated program. 1124 01:00:49,433 --> 01:00:51,367 And I'm young. 1125 01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,100 I'm like, I don't even know, 10, 1126 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,100 11 years old? 1127 01:00:57,033 --> 01:00:59,166 And I'm just snuggled up under my blanket 1128 01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,633 going, "Oh my gosh, what is he doing? 1129 01:01:02,667 --> 01:01:04,500 I know this is wrong." 1130 01:01:05,533 --> 01:01:08,200 Ya know, we've had lots of conversations about 1131 01:01:08,233 --> 01:01:11,333 my father's mental state, 1132 01:01:11,367 --> 01:01:14,233 there was a lack of feeling to other people 1133 01:01:14,266 --> 01:01:18,033 and their situations and their needs. 1134 01:01:18,233 --> 01:01:20,233 He just had this focus. 1135 01:01:20,266 --> 01:01:23,467 He just wanted to do what he wanted to do, 1136 01:01:23,500 --> 01:01:27,367 and it didn't matter if it was good for anybody else 1137 01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:31,400 or if it was even good for him in a lot of cases. 1138 01:01:32,500 --> 01:01:35,700 He was just tearing our family apart. 1139 01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:40,767 Dividing us into two opposite groups 1140 01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:44,200 and trying to turn us against our mom. 1141 01:01:45,300 --> 01:01:47,667 - He just basically persuaded those kids, 1142 01:01:47,700 --> 01:01:50,100 he brainwashed them. 1143 01:01:50,133 --> 01:01:53,500 Josh, Alina, Michael, John. 1144 01:01:55,233 --> 01:01:58,567 - My father didn't genuinely love us. 1145 01:01:59,100 --> 01:02:02,133 When you genuinely love someone, 1146 01:02:02,166 --> 01:02:05,033 you desire their continual 1147 01:02:05,066 --> 01:02:08,066 growth and spiritual development, 1148 01:02:08,100 --> 01:02:09,767 and he didn't. 1149 01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:13,000 [Steve] Jenny is probably the most irrational person 1150 01:02:13,033 --> 01:02:14,667 that I personally know. 1151 01:02:16,166 --> 01:02:18,767 - [crying] Sorry, give me a second. 1152 01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:25,567 [crying] 1153 01:02:29,667 --> 01:02:32,767 Alright, we're gonna have to take a second. 1154 01:02:36,667 --> 01:02:38,533 [eerie music] 1155 01:02:38,567 --> 01:02:42,066 - Steve Powell, on the surface, seems normal, 1156 01:02:42,100 --> 01:02:45,567 but then as you peel it back, there's- 1157 01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:48,433 there's just the oddness of his personality. 1158 01:02:48,467 --> 01:02:50,233 You peel it back a little bit further, 1159 01:02:50,266 --> 01:02:53,734 there is what is a clear obsession with Susan Powell. 1160 01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:57,567 [Steve] She's so beautiful. 1161 01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:59,600 She knows I'm here. 1162 01:02:59,633 --> 01:03:05,066 [Chris] That sexual obsession that he had for Josh's wife, 1163 01:03:05,100 --> 01:03:07,033 that Josh had to know about. 1164 01:03:07,066 --> 01:03:11,233 How does that sort of color everything that Josh does? 1165 01:03:11,567 --> 01:03:14,633 [Steve] And I can't go too far because I'm 1166 01:03:14,667 --> 01:03:18,066 hooked up to the TV here. 1167 01:03:18,100 --> 01:03:19,467 [Chuck] I suspect that Steven Powell 1168 01:03:19,500 --> 01:03:22,000 knows about Susan's disappearance. 1169 01:03:22,033 --> 01:03:24,767 I think he knows, even if he wasn't directly involved. 1170 01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:26,166 [Steve] Okay, it's on. 1171 01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,600 - I thought to myself, "Steve Powell is huge 1172 01:03:28,633 --> 01:03:31,600 in this investigation," and it wasn't just me, 1173 01:03:31,633 --> 01:03:36,300 I mean my supervisor, my peers, all came to this conclusion. 1174 01:03:37,633 --> 01:03:41,633 [Steve] I'd love to spend the evening in here with Susan 1175 01:03:41,667 --> 01:03:43,133 is what I'd like to do. 1176 01:03:43,166 --> 01:03:46,033 That's the only person I would even be interested in. 1177 01:03:47,100 --> 01:03:51,200 - We had to prove or disprove his 1178 01:03:51,233 --> 01:03:53,500 involvement in this investigation. 1179 01:03:57,166 --> 01:03:58,533 [dramatic music] 1180 01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:06,000 - As the investigation into Susan's disappearance 1181 01:04:06,033 --> 01:04:09,233 progressed, police began undercover surveillance 1182 01:04:09,266 --> 01:04:11,734 of Josh Powell and his family. 1183 01:04:11,767 --> 01:04:14,533 [Ellis] We didn't have a body, so we had to see if 1184 01:04:14,567 --> 01:04:17,100 Josh eventually would say something. 1185 01:04:17,133 --> 01:04:20,700 So that either we can find Susan, 1186 01:04:20,734 --> 01:04:24,400 get some more evidence, or get somewhat of an admission. 1187 01:04:24,433 --> 01:04:27,667 - In an exclusive interview, we spoke with the actual agent 1188 01:04:27,700 --> 01:04:29,166 who worked the case. 1189 01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:32,400 This officer is still an active undercover operative, 1190 01:04:32,433 --> 01:04:36,033 so his voice and appearance have been altered. 1191 01:05:04,367 --> 01:05:10,367 [dramatic music] 1192 01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:12,400 [Ellis] Josh just wasn't close to anybody else. 1193 01:05:12,433 --> 01:05:15,367 He didn't have any like, close friends, a best friend. 1194 01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:18,500 And the person closest to him was Susan 1195 01:05:18,533 --> 01:05:21,567 and then probably the next person to him was Steve. 1196 01:05:24,166 --> 01:05:27,266 And he knew that Steve had this infatuation for Susan, 1197 01:05:27,300 --> 01:05:32,000 so if he spoke to anybody and he shared any details with anybody, 1198 01:05:32,033 --> 01:05:35,166 it was only with Mike Powell, that's it. 1199 01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:36,734 - You see us? 1200 01:06:02,533 --> 01:06:05,200 - This is the actual undercover police recording 1201 01:06:05,233 --> 01:06:09,367 of Michael Powell contacting a satellite imagery company 1202 01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:13,033 to obtain pictures of a salvage yard in Oregon. 1203 01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:15,700 What could this bizarre request 1204 01:06:15,734 --> 01:06:18,767 have to do with Susan's disappearance? 1205 01:06:55,567 --> 01:06:57,433 [Stephanie] The day after Susan disappeared, 1206 01:06:57,467 --> 01:07:00,533 Josh's sister Alina and his brother Michael 1207 01:07:00,567 --> 01:07:04,000 traveled to Utah to be with Josh and his children. 1208 01:07:04,033 --> 01:07:07,200 Approximately two weeks later on December 22nd, 1209 01:07:07,233 --> 01:07:10,767 Michael and Alina drove back to Washington in Michael's car, 1210 01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:14,433 but after driving a little more than 470 miles, 1211 01:07:14,467 --> 01:07:17,033 they found themselves stranded. 1212 01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:39,700 - Michael took $500 and just left his vehicle 1213 01:07:39,734 --> 01:07:42,300 when he probably could have just had it repaired. 1214 01:07:42,333 --> 01:07:44,200 That was very suspicious. 1215 01:07:44,633 --> 01:07:47,500 And I think a lot of us thought that was our big break, 1216 01:07:47,533 --> 01:07:49,533 this was our break. 1217 01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:53,333 This is where we're going to get our evidence. 1218 01:07:54,066 --> 01:07:57,166 We took specialized canines with us to see if the dogs 1219 01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:01,100 would hit on any decomposition. 1220 01:08:01,367 --> 01:08:03,567 And when they released these dogs, 1221 01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:06,667 these dogs went directly to Michael Powell's vehicle 1222 01:08:06,700 --> 01:08:08,633 and indicated on the trunk. 1223 01:08:18,734 --> 01:08:20,300 - We sent Michael's vehicle, 1224 01:08:20,333 --> 01:08:23,533 we forensically test it, 1225 01:08:23,567 --> 01:08:25,233 and the results come back. 1226 01:08:26,266 --> 01:08:29,100 - I called Ellis and asked would the police wire me 1227 01:08:29,133 --> 01:08:30,500 and let me go in? 1228 01:08:30,734 --> 01:08:33,000 I'll try to get Josh to confess. 1229 01:08:34,667 --> 01:08:36,266 - They're walking us through all this. 1230 01:08:36,300 --> 01:08:39,500 Okay, if this happens, we'll rush in and take care of things. 1231 01:08:44,633 --> 01:08:47,066 It's like walking into the lion's den. 1232 01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:52,033 [eerie music] 1233 01:08:56,734 --> 01:08:58,767 [Stephanie] After discovering indications 1234 01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:02,200 of human decomposition in Michael Powell's truck, 1235 01:09:02,233 --> 01:09:05,033 the West Valley City Police sent swabs to the 1236 01:09:05,066 --> 01:09:08,233 Utah State Crime Lab for DNA testing. 1237 01:09:08,266 --> 01:09:11,166 They wanted to know if Josh murdered Susan, 1238 01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:14,100 then recruited his brother Michael to help 1239 01:09:14,133 --> 01:09:16,033 relocate her body. 1240 01:09:16,066 --> 01:09:18,066 I wanted to drive the possible route 1241 01:09:18,100 --> 01:09:20,233 surrounding West Valley City. 1242 01:09:20,266 --> 01:09:22,700 Ellis Maxwell, the lead detective in Susan's 1243 01:09:22,734 --> 01:09:25,533 disappearance agreed to go with me. 1244 01:09:26,300 --> 01:09:28,333 [Ellis] So, yeah this would be the route that 1245 01:09:28,367 --> 01:09:30,467 Michael would take, right? 1246 01:09:30,500 --> 01:09:35,633 So when we learn that Michael's vehicle was up in Oregon, 1247 01:09:35,667 --> 01:09:38,300 we send it to get forensically tested. 1248 01:09:38,333 --> 01:09:41,333 They call me, they say, "Hey we have a DNA profile." 1249 01:09:44,033 --> 01:09:46,500 We're thinking, "Okay this is our big break." 1250 01:09:46,533 --> 01:09:49,066 Results come back... 1251 01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:51,066 nothing. 1252 01:09:55,066 --> 01:09:57,233 - The West Valley City Police did find 1253 01:09:57,266 --> 01:10:01,600 DNA in Michael Powell's trunk and compared it to Susan's DNA, 1254 01:10:01,633 --> 01:10:04,300 however the sample was insufficient to make 1255 01:10:04,333 --> 01:10:06,667 a complete comparison. 1256 01:10:06,700 --> 01:10:09,633 So even though they suspected Michael Powell's car 1257 01:10:09,667 --> 01:10:12,767 had been used to relocate Susan's body, 1258 01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:16,066 they didn't have enough evidence to make an arrest. 1259 01:10:18,133 --> 01:10:21,266 - Looking back, I realize that Michael was probably 1260 01:10:21,300 --> 01:10:24,000 fairly involved in the whole situation. 1261 01:10:24,033 --> 01:10:27,200 I don't know if he actually helped him plan it, 1262 01:10:27,233 --> 01:10:30,333 but based on conversations that I'd had with Michael, 1263 01:10:30,367 --> 01:10:33,300 which were kind of weird, he seemed to have this over 1264 01:10:33,333 --> 01:10:37,000 inflated sense of loyalty to family where you would do 1265 01:10:37,033 --> 01:10:41,133 anything to help cover up like shameful things. 1266 01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:45,667 It seemed like a twisted weird sense of loyalty. 1267 01:10:46,533 --> 01:10:51,133 - It's very likely that he could have relocated her body 1268 01:10:51,166 --> 01:10:54,166 knowing now that the police now are heavily involved. 1269 01:11:05,133 --> 01:11:09,266 - I believe that Josh probably called him 1270 01:11:09,300 --> 01:11:11,433 and asked for help. 1271 01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:15,066 I mean, maybe he knew about it before, 1272 01:11:15,100 --> 01:11:18,600 but at least, at the very least, he called him afterwards 1273 01:11:18,633 --> 01:11:21,200 to help cover up what he had done. 1274 01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:30,333 [dramatic music] 1275 01:11:30,367 --> 01:11:34,100 I called Ellis and asked him, would the police support me, 1276 01:11:34,133 --> 01:11:37,066 would they wire me and let go in 1277 01:11:37,100 --> 01:11:42,266 and I'll try to get Josh, my dad, or Michael to confess. 1278 01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:45,166 [Ellis] Jennifer Graves was kind of on the outskirts 1279 01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:48,033 with the family and had been for time. 1280 01:11:48,066 --> 01:11:52,433 She says, "What do you think about sending me in to 1281 01:11:52,467 --> 01:11:56,633 Steven Powell's home wired, kind of like what they do on TV," 1282 01:11:56,667 --> 01:11:59,233 and I thought to myself, "You're crazy." 1283 01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:03,100 [Kirk] Jen had been talking about this with me, 1284 01:12:03,133 --> 01:12:05,600 this idea of putting on a wire. 1285 01:12:05,633 --> 01:12:07,300 My wife's kind of gutsy, 1286 01:12:07,333 --> 01:12:10,567 and when she finally gets an idea in her head, 1287 01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:12,333 she doesn't let go of it. 1288 01:12:15,433 --> 01:12:17,467 [Stephanie] What you're about to hear is the actual 1289 01:12:17,500 --> 01:12:21,200 audio recording from the undercover police operation 1290 01:12:21,233 --> 01:12:24,300 played publicly for the first time. 1291 01:12:30,066 --> 01:12:32,667 - Jennifer Graves' goal was to try to get Josh 1292 01:12:32,700 --> 01:12:35,200 separated from the rest of the family 1293 01:12:35,233 --> 01:12:38,600 to where she could basically call him out 1294 01:12:38,633 --> 01:12:40,233 and say, "What did you do with Susan? 1295 01:12:40,266 --> 01:12:41,600 Where is Susan?" 1296 01:12:42,500 --> 01:12:44,400 [Kirk] We're at the Tacoma Police Department 1297 01:12:44,433 --> 01:12:46,533 and they're walking us through all this, 1298 01:12:46,567 --> 01:12:47,667 "Okay, now if this happens, 1299 01:12:47,700 --> 01:12:49,500 we'll rush in and take care of things." 1300 01:12:51,133 --> 01:12:55,333 - I knew my dad had an extremely volatile temper. 1301 01:12:56,166 --> 01:12:58,233 I was pretty sure that Josh had done something to Susan 1302 01:12:58,266 --> 01:13:00,233 and that probably my dad knew what it was 1303 01:13:00,266 --> 01:13:03,100 or even participated and helped with it. 1304 01:13:04,166 --> 01:13:06,633 It was extremely nerve racking walking up to that door. 1305 01:13:07,533 --> 01:13:10,600 I really had no idea what was going to happen. 1306 01:13:10,633 --> 01:13:13,000 It's like walking into the lion's den. 1307 01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:22,633 My dad actually ended up inviting us in. 1308 01:13:22,667 --> 01:13:24,367 We had dinner with them. 1309 01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:34,133 The police were all, just waiting. 1310 01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:48,133 - We waited in a vehicle about a street away. 1311 01:13:48,166 --> 01:13:50,600 We were close enough we could pick up the signal, 1312 01:13:50,633 --> 01:13:53,567 but we had enough distance that if they were to come outside 1313 01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:55,166 that they wouldn't see us. 1314 01:14:08,033 --> 01:14:11,166 - Finally, after dinner, and they're starting to 1315 01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:15,000 clean up and everything, I just signaled to my husband, 1316 01:14:15,033 --> 01:14:18,000 I just pulled Josh off into a different room. 1317 01:14:18,433 --> 01:14:20,200 Unfortunately, everybody could see. 1318 01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:38,000 - Jennifer manages to get Josh into a study room 1319 01:14:38,033 --> 01:14:39,233 and kind of corner him, 1320 01:14:39,266 --> 01:14:41,200 just like she said she would. 1321 01:14:47,233 --> 01:14:50,100 - I'm a little nervous because, at this point, 1322 01:14:50,133 --> 01:14:52,467 I'm fully on board with the idea that Josh has killed 1323 01:14:52,500 --> 01:14:56,333 his wife, and how's he going to treat his sister any different? 1324 01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:21,200 - I just started trying to get him to say something. 1325 01:15:21,233 --> 01:15:24,600 And then my dad came in and interrupted it, 1326 01:15:24,633 --> 01:15:27,567 and that kind of just ended the conversation. 1327 01:15:32,233 --> 01:15:34,333 - We went back into the family room area, 1328 01:15:34,367 --> 01:15:37,333 and I haven't gotten what I wanted. 1329 01:15:37,367 --> 01:15:39,600 I was... 1330 01:15:39,633 --> 01:15:42,734 feeling really quite desperate 1331 01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:44,500 and they're gettin' ready to go. 1332 01:15:44,533 --> 01:15:45,266 I gotta do something. 1333 01:15:45,300 --> 01:15:47,066 I gotta do something. 1334 01:15:47,100 --> 01:15:51,333 So I push Josh and was like, 1335 01:15:51,367 --> 01:15:54,567 "Tell me where her body is, just tell me where her body is." 1336 01:15:59,233 --> 01:16:05,333 [dramatic music] 1337 01:16:05,367 --> 01:16:07,467 - Two months after Susan's disappearance, 1338 01:16:07,500 --> 01:16:10,200 her family was desperate for answers 1339 01:16:10,233 --> 01:16:12,367 which is when her sister-in-law Jennifer Graves 1340 01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:14,266 offered to wear a wire. 1341 01:16:14,300 --> 01:16:18,367 Is it possible that Josh would confess to his own sister 1342 01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:20,467 that he murdered his wife? 1343 01:16:21,033 --> 01:16:25,567 [Jennifer] I was feeling really quite desperate. 1344 01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:27,233 I pushed Josh. 1345 01:16:27,266 --> 01:16:28,700 I know you've done something to her 1346 01:16:28,734 --> 01:16:30,700 and we just want to have a regular burial 1347 01:16:30,734 --> 01:16:31,734 and just be done with this, 1348 01:16:31,767 --> 01:16:33,500 so just tell me where her body is. 1349 01:16:47,300 --> 01:16:50,567 - I'm nervous, I- my heart's beating. 1350 01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:52,667 What kind of information are we gonna get? 1351 01:16:52,700 --> 01:16:54,200 What's he gonna say? 1352 01:16:54,233 --> 01:16:56,734 If he confesses, what's our next move? 1353 01:17:10,700 --> 01:17:13,500 - He just immediately becomes defensive 1354 01:17:13,533 --> 01:17:17,000 and he starts reverting back to his attorney. 1355 01:17:17,033 --> 01:17:19,667 Saying that his attorney told him not to talk to anybody, 1356 01:17:19,700 --> 01:17:22,200 so he's kind of almost talking to her like he's talking 1357 01:17:22,233 --> 01:17:24,000 to the police. 1358 01:17:24,033 --> 01:17:27,767 And I just was shaking my head, I'm like this guy's pathetic. 1359 01:17:42,567 --> 01:17:46,533 - Josh comes storming back in and tells his dad, 1360 01:17:46,567 --> 01:17:49,467 "Jen's here to try and get me to confess." 1361 01:17:49,500 --> 01:17:52,133 And he's going on and on and so Steve, of course, 1362 01:17:52,166 --> 01:17:54,567 gets very abrasive. 1363 01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:57,333 Jen's still trying, she hasn't given up yet. 1364 01:18:16,300 --> 01:18:18,300 [Jennifer] Josh ended up leaving. 1365 01:18:18,333 --> 01:18:22,433 And, we're awkwardly staring at my dad, 1366 01:18:22,467 --> 01:18:25,033 and I'm like, "Well, I got one more shot." 1367 01:18:27,066 --> 01:18:29,433 Let's see if I can get anything out of my dad. 1368 01:18:40,633 --> 01:18:43,700 Well, that- that didn't really go... 1369 01:18:43,734 --> 01:18:44,734 super well. 1370 01:18:52,266 --> 01:18:53,500 - I'm thinking, this might work. 1371 01:18:53,533 --> 01:18:56,500 If we piss him off enough, maybe they'll both snap. 1372 01:19:13,633 --> 01:19:17,066 - He becomes very upset and he starts yelling 1373 01:19:17,100 --> 01:19:18,734 at Jennifer and her husband. 1374 01:19:18,767 --> 01:19:22,734 Steven's calling her names, degrading her. 1375 01:19:51,667 --> 01:19:54,000 - He doesn't want us to leave cause that would give up 1376 01:19:54,033 --> 01:19:56,500 his opportunity to scream and yell some more. 1377 01:20:01,500 --> 01:20:05,433 - My sister was jumping right onto the bandwagon 1378 01:20:05,467 --> 01:20:08,066 talking about how terrible Susan was anyways 1379 01:20:08,100 --> 01:20:11,000 and who cares if she's gone kind of thing. 1380 01:20:36,467 --> 01:20:42,734 [dramatic music] 1381 01:20:54,266 --> 01:20:56,500 - Steven's calling her names, 1382 01:20:56,533 --> 01:21:00,100 degrading her as she's walking away. 1383 01:21:00,133 --> 01:21:02,734 She eventually leaves the residence. 1384 01:21:07,166 --> 01:21:08,533 - I just cried... 1385 01:21:08,567 --> 01:21:10,734 cause I didn't get what I wanted. 1386 01:21:11,667 --> 01:21:14,533 I didn't get the confession that I knew was there. 1387 01:21:17,767 --> 01:21:21,133 - I think ya know all of us believed Josh would slip up 1388 01:21:21,166 --> 01:21:25,066 and say something to Jennifer but unfortunately, 1389 01:21:25,100 --> 01:21:27,700 we didn't get anything out of it. 1390 01:21:34,633 --> 01:21:36,400 [Stephanie] From the beginning, we set out to tell 1391 01:21:36,433 --> 01:21:38,600 Susan's complete story, 1392 01:21:38,633 --> 01:21:41,367 the victim of an abusive husband. 1393 01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:46,133 Domestic violence is the leading cause of injury to women; 1394 01:21:46,166 --> 01:21:47,734 more than car accidents, 1395 01:21:47,767 --> 01:21:50,567 muggings, and rapes combined. 1396 01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:54,533 We thought we would be telling the story of domestic abuse 1397 01:21:54,567 --> 01:21:58,033 resulting in tragedy, but as we dug deeper, 1398 01:21:58,066 --> 01:22:00,700 we found a completely new revelation 1399 01:22:00,734 --> 01:22:03,066 that the media frenzy missed. 1400 01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:06,667 We started with the mission to uncover who could have been 1401 01:22:06,700 --> 01:22:09,133 responsible for Susan's disappearance, 1402 01:22:09,166 --> 01:22:12,333 but the why proved much more intriguing. 1403 01:22:13,033 --> 01:22:15,567 - We need to start asking a different question 1404 01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:18,000 and it's, "Why would someone hurt his loved one?" 1405 01:22:18,033 --> 01:22:21,000 "Why would someone use power and control against 1406 01:22:21,033 --> 01:22:22,700 their partner, their spouse?" 1407 01:22:22,734 --> 01:22:24,700 I've done this work for a number of years 1408 01:22:24,734 --> 01:22:27,400 and I don't know too many people who just, out of the blue, 1409 01:22:27,433 --> 01:22:28,734 start hurting someone. 1410 01:22:28,767 --> 01:22:32,367 This usually comes from a history of learned behavior 1411 01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:33,633 or exposure. 1412 01:22:33,667 --> 01:22:35,633 - There, I'm in here too. 1413 01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:41,133 - Josh seemed to be very much under Steven Powell's thumb. 1414 01:22:41,166 --> 01:22:43,500 He never confronted him, never did what most people 1415 01:22:43,533 --> 01:22:46,734 would do which is be disgusted and angered 1416 01:22:46,767 --> 01:22:49,266 by his father acting this way. 1417 01:22:49,300 --> 01:22:51,133 [Steve] Move your hand, move the box. 1418 01:22:51,166 --> 01:22:52,266 [Susan] No. 1419 01:22:52,300 --> 01:22:54,200 - He had control over Josh. 1420 01:22:54,233 --> 01:22:57,166 - The real question is, "Could Steve Powell 1421 01:22:57,200 --> 01:23:00,600 "be the mastermind behind Susan's disappearance 1422 01:23:00,633 --> 01:23:03,633 even though he didn't physically kill her?" 1423 01:23:04,300 --> 01:23:08,667 There's one person who may be able to provide answers. 1424 01:23:11,667 --> 01:23:13,767 - Okay, here we are. 1425 01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:15,734 Am I in there at all? - Yes. 1426 01:23:15,767 --> 01:23:19,166 - We've obtained a bombshell interview with Alina Powell, 1427 01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:21,400 the last member of the Powell family 1428 01:23:21,433 --> 01:23:23,133 who holds all the secrets. 1429 01:23:23,533 --> 01:23:27,667 She's never revealed her side of the story until now. 1430 01:23:28,266 --> 01:23:30,433 - I don't know, I don't want to answer any other questions, 1431 01:23:30,467 --> 01:23:31,567 thank you. 1432 01:23:33,066 --> 01:23:34,767 - Alina Powell, Josh's sister, is someone has been 1433 01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:36,433 very interesting in the case. 1434 01:23:36,467 --> 01:23:39,633 Depending on who you ask, some people view her as an enabler, 1435 01:23:39,667 --> 01:23:42,600 a possible accomplice, and that could be. 1436 01:23:43,166 --> 01:23:46,000 But I also saw her as someone who is very intelligence, who 1437 01:23:46,033 --> 01:23:48,233 was in a horrible situation. 1438 01:23:48,266 --> 01:23:49,633 - Turn that off. 1439 01:23:49,667 --> 01:23:51,533 [Elizabeth] Who, in her own way, may have been trying to do 1440 01:23:51,567 --> 01:23:53,333 what she thought was best. 1441 01:23:53,367 --> 01:23:55,567 The sad thing of course is if she had information about the 1442 01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:58,467 case and didn't come forward, that could have been helpful. 1443 01:23:58,500 --> 01:24:02,700 - Alina Powell's account challenges what we've been told 1444 01:24:02,734 --> 01:24:05,533 about Susan Cox Powell's disappearance 1445 01:24:05,567 --> 01:24:08,700 and brings everything into question. 1446 01:24:10,433 --> 01:24:12,667 [dramatic music] 1447 01:24:12,700 --> 01:24:14,300 You doing okay? 1448 01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:17,400 [Stephanie] Have the detectives wanted to 1449 01:24:17,433 --> 01:24:19,000 talk to you in Utah at all? 1450 01:24:19,033 --> 01:24:21,000 - It was like they didn't really care what I had to say 1451 01:24:21,033 --> 01:24:25,000 if it wasn't, "Yeah, I believe x, y, and z, 1452 01:24:25,033 --> 01:24:26,400 you guys are right" kind of a thing. 1453 01:24:26,433 --> 01:24:27,533 [Stephanie] Yeah. 1454 01:24:27,567 --> 01:24:32,600 [dramatic music] 1455 01:24:32,633 --> 01:24:37,000 - You know, there is a side to Susan that the 1456 01:24:37,033 --> 01:24:39,033 other side doesn't want you to see, 1457 01:24:39,066 --> 01:24:40,767 doesn't want to expose. 1458 01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:43,500 [Susan] [giggling] 1459 01:24:43,533 --> 01:24:44,567 Stop it. 1460 01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:46,734 [laughing] 1461 01:24:46,767 --> 01:24:48,433 Your dad zoomed in. 1462 01:24:49,500 --> 01:24:52,500 - She was bothered by how much her family wanted her 1463 01:24:52,533 --> 01:24:53,700 to be something else, 1464 01:24:53,734 --> 01:24:56,633 and how she felt like she couldn't be herself. 1465 01:24:56,667 --> 01:24:59,100 [Steve] Are you vandalizing? 1466 01:24:59,133 --> 01:25:00,567 - It's a thigh exercise. 1467 01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:02,133 [Steve] Thigh exercise, oh? 1468 01:25:02,166 --> 01:25:05,033 - I saw her behaving these ways. 1469 01:25:05,066 --> 01:25:07,033 She was playing a game with him and getting into 1470 01:25:07,066 --> 01:25:08,667 dangerous territory. 1471 01:25:08,700 --> 01:25:11,433 [Susan] No hair, woo hoo! 1472 01:25:11,467 --> 01:25:14,467 Do me a favor, when Josh gets home show him this, okay? 1473 01:25:14,500 --> 01:25:15,500 [Steve] Alright, okay. 1474 01:25:15,533 --> 01:25:17,000 - I don't think she was oblivious, 1475 01:25:17,033 --> 01:25:19,100 I think she was fully aware of what she was doing. 1476 01:25:21,133 --> 01:25:22,767 [Stephanie] For the first time ever, 1477 01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:25,734 we've pieced together the entire puzzle. 1478 01:25:27,333 --> 01:25:29,767 [Chris] Where is she and who really could potentially 1479 01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:31,166 have killed her? 1480 01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:33,066 Police say you're a person of interest, Josh. 1481 01:25:33,100 --> 01:25:34,367 Do you have anything to say? 1482 01:25:35,734 --> 01:25:38,333 There was more to every character in this story. 1483 01:25:39,367 --> 01:25:42,066 [Alina] We saw glimpses of Susan that nobody 1484 01:25:42,100 --> 01:25:44,533 on the other side of this would have seen. 1485 01:25:44,567 --> 01:25:47,066 [Reporter] The Powell's launched a strategy of their own. 1486 01:25:47,100 --> 01:25:49,333 Attacking of all people, Susan. 1487 01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:53,400 - A classic method used by an abuser. 1488 01:25:53,433 --> 01:25:57,200 - Susan who was a very flirtatious sexual being. 1489 01:25:57,233 --> 01:25:59,133 [Rose] It's victim blaming. 1490 01:25:59,166 --> 01:26:01,300 [Gary] Josh and Steven were trying to defend themselves 1491 01:26:01,333 --> 01:26:04,000 so they're like we've got Susan's journal, 1492 01:26:04,033 --> 01:26:05,533 this will prove our innocence. 1493 01:26:05,567 --> 01:26:07,066 [car honking] [woman] Thank you. 1494 01:26:07,100 --> 01:26:09,133 - We've got a lot of information about Susan, 1495 01:26:09,166 --> 01:26:11,166 a lot of it from her journals. 1496 01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:14,333 - They used the journals to come busting in the house. 1497 01:26:15,133 --> 01:26:17,767 - We were all in awe of the house of horrors 1498 01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:19,066 we were looking at. 1499 01:26:19,100 --> 01:26:20,734 - I thought they were gonna arrest Josh 1500 01:26:20,767 --> 01:26:22,433 and it turned out to be Steve. 1501 01:26:25,767 --> 01:26:27,433 - I said, "Hey Josh, I'm also taking your kids 1502 01:26:27,467 --> 01:26:29,000 into protective custody." 1503 01:26:29,033 --> 01:26:30,033 [Chuck] I'm afraid for the children. 1504 01:26:30,066 --> 01:26:31,200 I don't want them to go visit him. 1505 01:26:31,233 --> 01:26:33,700 - We told the police he was gonna try... 1506 01:26:33,734 --> 01:26:35,000 something. 1507 01:26:40,266 --> 01:26:43,266 - Let's call it what it is, it is something evil. 1508 01:26:43,300 --> 01:26:46,233 [Anne] Everybody was waiting for Steven to crack. 1509 01:26:46,266 --> 01:26:48,467 - Buried deep within the boxes of video tapes 1510 01:26:48,500 --> 01:26:50,367 made by Steve Powell, 1511 01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:54,433 we found a secret recording that may be the final clue. 1512 01:26:59,567 --> 01:27:01,100 - Is Susan's father-in-law 1513 01:27:01,133 --> 01:27:04,300 the mastermind behind her disappearance? 1514 01:27:09,433 --> 01:27:12,433 [Stephanie] For more information, go to Oxygen.com.