1 00:00:29,172 --> 00:00:31,379 Scott was the center of Ryan and Cheri's world. 2 00:00:31,379 --> 00:00:33,379 [Scott laughs] 3 00:00:33,379 --> 00:00:36,275 Scott had the world at his fingertips at this point. 4 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,758 He was a really good dad. 5 00:00:45,793 --> 00:00:50,068 His personality changed on such a drastic level. 6 00:00:50,068 --> 00:00:52,379 I would have never in a million years thought 7 00:00:52,379 --> 00:00:55,000 that he would have ever done anything like this. 8 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,068 [911 dispatcher speaking] 9 00:00:57,068 --> 00:00:59,000 [man speaking] 10 00:00:59,034 --> 00:01:00,482 Something evil happened in that home. 11 00:01:00,482 --> 00:01:02,586 I just didn't know what it was. 12 00:01:02,586 --> 00:01:04,757 [man speaking] 13 00:01:10,482 --> 00:01:14,241 [theme music playing] 14 00:01:22,310 --> 00:01:26,689 [rhythmic drum beat playing] 15 00:01:29,068 --> 00:01:33,378 NARRATOR: 39-year-old Cheri Hartman is filming her 19-year-old son 16 00:01:33,378 --> 00:01:35,241 Scott's Army graduation. 17 00:01:36,310 --> 00:01:41,689 I just can't imagine the pride that must be leaping out of 18 00:01:41,689 --> 00:01:43,482 Cheri right now being there and -- 19 00:01:43,482 --> 00:01:45,793 and videotaping that. 20 00:01:47,310 --> 00:01:50,896 Cheri would dote and tell anyone and everyone 21 00:01:50,965 --> 00:01:52,689 that her son Scott was in the Army. 22 00:01:52,689 --> 00:01:55,482 [shouting indistinctly] 23 00:01:55,482 --> 00:01:58,482 NARRATOR: Cheri is recording the ceremony for Scott's dad, 24 00:01:58,482 --> 00:02:00,689 39-year-old Brian Hartman, 25 00:02:00,758 --> 00:02:04,000 who hasn't made the 600-mile trip from their home in 26 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:05,896 rural Indiana. 27 00:02:05,965 --> 00:02:09,103 Brian didn't go to the graduation because 28 00:02:09,103 --> 00:02:10,586 Brian never 29 00:02:10,655 --> 00:02:13,793 really left his house unless it was for work. 30 00:02:13,793 --> 00:02:15,896 Brian was a homebody. 31 00:02:17,724 --> 00:02:20,689 It was no disrespect on Scott's part or Cheri's part. 32 00:02:20,758 --> 00:02:22,172 That was just Brian. 33 00:02:24,586 --> 00:02:25,689 [laughs] 34 00:02:25,689 --> 00:02:28,172 NARRATOR: After the event, Scott relaxes with 35 00:02:28,241 --> 00:02:31,068 a friend who has joined Cheri on the trip. 36 00:02:38,310 --> 00:02:41,482 They haven't gotten back home yet, 37 00:02:41,482 --> 00:02:45,067 and, uh, just making a video for Brian. 38 00:02:47,067 --> 00:02:49,137 He sounds so much like his dad. 39 00:02:51,379 --> 00:02:54,275 COUGILL: Scott is beaming with pride, with a smile 40 00:02:54,344 --> 00:02:56,758 on his face of what he's just accomplished. 41 00:02:58,206 --> 00:03:02,275 NARRATOR: Scott grabs the camera and turns it on his mom. 42 00:03:02,275 --> 00:03:04,896 BAUMGARTNER: That is definitely Cheri not liking 43 00:03:04,896 --> 00:03:07,275 to be in front of the camera. 44 00:03:07,344 --> 00:03:08,689 Scott got her good. 45 00:03:08,689 --> 00:03:10,689 [laughs] 46 00:03:10,689 --> 00:03:14,896 That is a genuine smile from Cheri, 47 00:03:14,896 --> 00:03:18,000 but I think underneath of that smile, there was concern, 48 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,344 you know, that Scott is going to be leaving again soon. 49 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:23,482 NARRATOR: Back home in Indiana, 50 00:03:23,551 --> 00:03:26,103 Scott finally has the chance to mark the occasion 51 00:03:26,103 --> 00:03:29,586 with his dad, seen here in his signature yellow cap. 52 00:03:30,827 --> 00:03:33,793 This must have been a celebration for Brian to bring 53 00:03:33,793 --> 00:03:36,758 out the fireworks, and he was glad Scott was home. 54 00:03:39,827 --> 00:03:42,103 Scott looks healthy. 55 00:03:42,103 --> 00:03:45,482 Yeah, he had the world at his fingertips at this point. 56 00:03:48,689 --> 00:03:51,103 NARRATOR: Scott's military career will take him away 57 00:03:51,103 --> 00:03:53,586 from the only home he's ever known. 58 00:03:53,586 --> 00:03:55,586 But his parents, Brian and Cheri, 59 00:03:55,655 --> 00:03:58,034 have always preferred a simpler life. 60 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,482 Cheri and Brian got married in 1975. 61 00:04:02,482 --> 00:04:04,586 It was pretty quick out of high school. 62 00:04:05,586 --> 00:04:07,275 Money was tight at that time, 63 00:04:07,344 --> 00:04:11,379 and so she recycled her prom dress into her wedding dress. 64 00:04:14,275 --> 00:04:17,689 NARRATOR: A year later, in October 1976, 65 00:04:17,689 --> 00:04:19,757 Cheri gives birth to a son. 66 00:04:20,896 --> 00:04:24,896 Cheri and Brian named their son Brian Scott 67 00:04:24,965 --> 00:04:26,586 after his father. 68 00:04:26,655 --> 00:04:29,379 Then they went on, they called him Scott. 69 00:04:29,448 --> 00:04:32,034 Um, they had a new baby. They were so excited. 70 00:04:33,793 --> 00:04:37,379 COUGILL: Scott was the center of Brian and Cheri's world. 71 00:04:37,379 --> 00:04:38,655 He couldn't do no wrong. 72 00:04:39,724 --> 00:04:43,482 Cheri and Scott's relationship was very tight. 73 00:04:43,551 --> 00:04:45,379 Brian was a disciplinarian. 74 00:04:45,379 --> 00:04:48,379 He set boundaries, and Cheri was more the loving 75 00:04:48,379 --> 00:04:50,241 mother who didn't want to see Scott get in trouble. 76 00:04:51,586 --> 00:04:54,275 NARRATOR: Brian owns his own construction business, 77 00:04:54,275 --> 00:04:57,275 remodeling and building homes. 78 00:04:57,275 --> 00:04:59,689 BAUMGARTNER: Brian taught 79 00:04:59,689 --> 00:05:01,896 Scott about carpentry work. 80 00:05:01,965 --> 00:05:05,068 Brian would take him on all of the job sites. 81 00:05:05,137 --> 00:05:07,896 He was hoping one day, Scott would take over the business. 82 00:05:10,310 --> 00:05:12,896 WOOLUM: Brian and Scott did not always see 83 00:05:12,965 --> 00:05:13,896 eye to eye on everything, 84 00:05:13,965 --> 00:05:17,000 especially when Scott got older. 85 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,689 So I think for Scott, joining the Army was a way for him 86 00:05:20,758 --> 00:05:26,000 to kind of get out from under Brian's control 87 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,241 for a little while. 88 00:05:29,379 --> 00:05:32,379 NARRATOR: Scott is weeks away from his first Army posting 89 00:05:32,379 --> 00:05:35,172 when someone special walks into his life. 90 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,586 ANGEL: I met Scott in the summer of '96, 91 00:05:39,586 --> 00:05:44,482 I was just so impressed right away. 92 00:05:44,551 --> 00:05:47,793 I had always admired people who served our country 93 00:05:47,793 --> 00:05:52,103 in the military, and he was very charismatic. 94 00:05:52,103 --> 00:05:55,862 And from there, we were a couple. 95 00:05:56,689 --> 00:06:00,172 Within two weeks, he was going to be in Fort Lewis, 96 00:06:00,172 --> 00:06:02,000 Washington State. 97 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:06,172 So we talked a couple of times on the phone, and I would 98 00:06:06,172 --> 00:06:08,000 write him five- and six-page letters, 99 00:06:08,034 --> 00:06:09,551 and he would write them back. 100 00:06:10,517 --> 00:06:13,172 NARRATOR: Six months later, Angel visits Scott 101 00:06:13,172 --> 00:06:15,689 on the base for the first time. 102 00:06:15,689 --> 00:06:19,896 When I got there, and, uh, we got back to the apartment, 103 00:06:19,896 --> 00:06:22,793 Scott brought out the ring 104 00:06:22,793 --> 00:06:25,103 and asked me to marry him, 105 00:06:25,103 --> 00:06:27,551 and I said yes. 106 00:06:33,103 --> 00:06:35,482 NARRATOR: In August 1997, 107 00:06:35,551 --> 00:06:37,896 Scott and Angel marry in rural Indiana. 108 00:06:39,068 --> 00:06:42,172 ANGEL: Scott was wearing his dress uniform for 109 00:06:42,172 --> 00:06:47,068 the military at the wedding, and he looked very handsome. 110 00:06:48,689 --> 00:06:51,482 COUGILL: My brother, Brian, as always, 111 00:06:51,551 --> 00:06:55,068 had on blue jeans, T-shirt, and a yellow hat, 112 00:06:55,068 --> 00:06:57,896 which was his common everyday style. 113 00:06:57,965 --> 00:07:00,758 Attending his son's wedding made him pretty proud. 114 00:07:03,275 --> 00:07:04,689 ANGEL: At the wedding, 115 00:07:04,758 --> 00:07:09,275 I was in the very early days, just about five days 116 00:07:09,275 --> 00:07:12,103 over a month pregnant with my first child. 117 00:07:12,103 --> 00:07:13,896 [woman speaking] 118 00:07:15,586 --> 00:07:17,896 WOOLUM: When Cheri found out she was gonna become a grandma, 119 00:07:17,965 --> 00:07:20,000 I remember getting a call from her, 120 00:07:20,034 --> 00:07:22,551 and she was extremely excited. 121 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,965 While I was pregnant, the nausea 122 00:07:29,620 --> 00:07:31,379 was overwhelming. 123 00:07:32,206 --> 00:07:34,172 I was agoraphobic. 124 00:07:34,172 --> 00:07:35,896 I got worse and worse, being able 125 00:07:35,896 --> 00:07:38,862 to leave the house, especially being sick. 126 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,689 I had avoidant personality disorder, and they 127 00:07:42,689 --> 00:07:45,793 could not try medications because of my pregnancy. 128 00:07:47,379 --> 00:07:49,586 NARRATOR: Her condition becomes so serious 129 00:07:49,586 --> 00:07:52,379 that Scott has to choose between staying in the Army 130 00:07:52,448 --> 00:07:54,068 and being there for his wife. 131 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,379 COUGILL: Scott left the Army 132 00:07:57,379 --> 00:08:00,896 to come home and support Angel 133 00:08:00,896 --> 00:08:02,344 during her pregnancy. 134 00:08:03,689 --> 00:08:07,896 It was difficult for Scott to walk away from the military. 135 00:08:07,896 --> 00:08:09,586 But I also know that he wanted 136 00:08:09,586 --> 00:08:12,068 to be home to support his family. 137 00:08:12,896 --> 00:08:16,379 -[baby crying] -[Angel speaking] 138 00:08:16,379 --> 00:08:18,000 [chuckling] 139 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,793 -[Angel speaking] -[Scott speaking] 140 00:08:20,793 --> 00:08:22,379 [Angel laughing] 141 00:08:22,379 --> 00:08:25,172 NARRATOR: On March 26th, 1998, 142 00:08:25,172 --> 00:08:27,551 Angel gives birth to baby Carolyn. 143 00:08:29,724 --> 00:08:31,448 ANGEL: Scott cut the cord. 144 00:08:32,793 --> 00:08:33,895 [man speaking] 145 00:08:33,895 --> 00:08:38,586 And I remember when they first laid her on my stomach, 146 00:08:38,586 --> 00:08:42,241 I looked into her eyes, Carolyn's eyes, and... 147 00:08:43,379 --> 00:08:45,655 I fell in love. 148 00:08:47,586 --> 00:08:51,482 NARRATOR: But Angel and Scott struggle as new parents. 149 00:08:51,482 --> 00:08:54,758 We were having difficulties, 150 00:08:55,689 --> 00:08:58,793 and I was admitted 151 00:08:58,862 --> 00:09:01,586 to the mental ward. 152 00:09:01,586 --> 00:09:03,689 They called it postpartum depression, 153 00:09:03,689 --> 00:09:07,172 but I was so happy about 154 00:09:07,241 --> 00:09:10,275 my daughter, but I... 155 00:09:11,620 --> 00:09:16,068 I couldn't speak out yet against Scott. 156 00:09:20,103 --> 00:09:23,000 It was the little things he did, 157 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,689 even before she could talk or anything 158 00:09:26,689 --> 00:09:28,896 at a couple months of age. 159 00:09:30,620 --> 00:09:34,586 He believed in smacking her hand hard if -- 160 00:09:34,655 --> 00:09:37,172 if she was to reach for something. 161 00:09:38,896 --> 00:09:43,689 And when I wanted to go and do things, 162 00:09:43,758 --> 00:09:47,551 he would not let me. 163 00:09:48,482 --> 00:09:50,758 NARRATOR: Eventually, Scott turns to drugs. 164 00:09:52,689 --> 00:09:53,379 BAUMGARTNER: At the time with Scott, 165 00:09:53,379 --> 00:09:55,275 it might have been marijuana. 166 00:09:55,344 --> 00:09:56,965 It's hard to say. 167 00:09:56,965 --> 00:10:00,034 I just get the sense that it was more than just marijuana. 168 00:10:01,379 --> 00:10:05,068 His personality changed on such a drastic level. 169 00:10:20,172 --> 00:10:22,172 NARRATOR: By June 1999, 170 00:10:22,172 --> 00:10:24,689 Angel's mental health has improved. 171 00:10:24,689 --> 00:10:27,965 She and Scott welcome another member to the Hartman clan, 172 00:10:27,965 --> 00:10:29,862 a sibling for their daughter, Carolyn. 173 00:10:29,931 --> 00:10:32,379 -Aw. -What do you think? 174 00:10:32,448 --> 00:10:38,137 Brian Kenneth Hartman was born June 9th, 1999. 175 00:10:39,172 --> 00:10:43,000 COUGILL: So we now have a Brian, a Scott, and a little Brian. 176 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,275 That's how we decipher the three. 177 00:10:45,275 --> 00:10:47,689 [woman speaking] 178 00:10:47,758 --> 00:10:51,379 BAUMGARTNER: He's a proud papa, but at the same time, 179 00:10:51,448 --> 00:10:53,068 I'm sure he was overwhelmed. 180 00:10:57,103 --> 00:10:59,275 NARRATOR: For Scott's parents, Cheri and Brian, 181 00:10:59,275 --> 00:11:01,793 their grandson's arrival is overshadowed 182 00:11:01,793 --> 00:11:04,344 by growing worry about Scott's behavior. 183 00:11:05,413 --> 00:11:10,793 I do know there were some drugs involved, and it caused 184 00:11:10,793 --> 00:11:14,379 some tension at home with his mother and father. 185 00:11:14,379 --> 00:11:19,000 There was concern as far as how the kids, 186 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,137 Carolyn and little Brian, were being raised. 187 00:11:24,586 --> 00:11:26,862 When Brian was born, 188 00:11:26,862 --> 00:11:31,275 you know, we tried to stay together and work things out, 189 00:11:31,275 --> 00:11:35,137 but he started getting more controlling. 190 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,586 "You can't leave the house unless I say so," 191 00:11:39,586 --> 00:11:43,000 and, "You need to start work now," 192 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:47,379 and then he wouldn't want me to be at work away from him. 193 00:11:48,379 --> 00:11:52,172 So I started having a fear of him then. 194 00:11:52,241 --> 00:11:55,344 So I wanted a divorce. 195 00:12:00,068 --> 00:12:03,482 BAUMGARTNER: After Scott and Angel separated, 196 00:12:03,482 --> 00:12:07,172 Scott needed a place to live, and the perfect plan for -- 197 00:12:07,241 --> 00:12:09,379 for them is to move in with the parents, 198 00:12:09,448 --> 00:12:10,482 Brian and Cheri. 199 00:12:12,482 --> 00:12:14,965 [Cheri speaking] 200 00:12:15,965 --> 00:12:18,862 ANGEL: I wanted to get away from Scott, 201 00:12:18,862 --> 00:12:22,862 but I offered Scott that 202 00:12:22,931 --> 00:12:26,896 sharing of custody, because I did not want to 203 00:12:26,896 --> 00:12:30,275 take them away from their father's side of the family. 204 00:12:30,344 --> 00:12:32,241 -[Cheri speaking] -[baby laughing] 205 00:12:33,482 --> 00:12:35,689 I know Brian and Cheri both looked forward 206 00:12:35,689 --> 00:12:38,103 to having both the grandkids under the roof. 207 00:12:38,103 --> 00:12:40,172 [Cheri speaking] 208 00:12:42,275 --> 00:12:45,689 NARRATOR: Brian wants to support his son, so he hires him 209 00:12:45,758 --> 00:12:47,379 to work at his construction company. 210 00:12:47,448 --> 00:12:49,379 [Cheri speaking] 211 00:12:52,862 --> 00:12:54,758 [Brian speaking] 212 00:12:54,827 --> 00:12:55,827 [Cheri chuckles] 213 00:12:57,275 --> 00:12:58,758 [Cheri speaking] 214 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,689 I think Brian wanted Scott to follow in his footsteps. 215 00:13:05,689 --> 00:13:08,793 That was his sidekick. That was his partner. 216 00:13:08,793 --> 00:13:09,965 [man speaking indistinctly] 217 00:13:09,965 --> 00:13:12,586 NARRATOR: For Scott, it's a chance at a fresh start. 218 00:13:14,103 --> 00:13:18,862 Scott had cleaned up -- the drug use, 219 00:13:18,931 --> 00:13:20,862 maybe not completely, but he had cleaned up. 220 00:13:22,310 --> 00:13:24,965 CAROLYN: When Brian and I were super little, 221 00:13:24,965 --> 00:13:27,793 grandma and grandpa and dad were very close. 222 00:13:27,793 --> 00:13:30,275 It seemed like a very back and forth, 223 00:13:30,344 --> 00:13:33,689 like, relationship of dad helped with the work 224 00:13:33,758 --> 00:13:35,793 and grandma and grandpa helped with us. 225 00:13:35,793 --> 00:13:39,482 [babbling indistinctly] 226 00:13:39,482 --> 00:13:41,379 It's pretty apparent that that was my seat 227 00:13:41,379 --> 00:13:43,344 of choice was just sitting with dad, and so... 228 00:13:44,275 --> 00:13:48,379 I wish I remembered more of this stuff. 229 00:13:48,379 --> 00:13:49,275 [babbling indistinctly] 230 00:13:49,275 --> 00:13:51,000 When I was younger, 231 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,896 he was a really good dad. 232 00:13:53,896 --> 00:13:56,068 He could be funny, 233 00:13:56,137 --> 00:13:57,482 be quite strict. 234 00:13:57,482 --> 00:13:59,379 [babbling indistinctly] 235 00:13:59,379 --> 00:14:02,137 [Scott speaking] 236 00:14:02,896 --> 00:14:04,896 But everybody else saw him as, you know, 237 00:14:04,896 --> 00:14:07,448 a single dad who was doing his best. 238 00:14:12,793 --> 00:14:16,275 NARRATOR: By January of 2000, with the support of his parents, 239 00:14:16,344 --> 00:14:19,551 Scott focuses on winning full custody of the kids. 240 00:14:21,620 --> 00:14:25,379 WOOLUM: There was a lot of, um, custody battle issues 241 00:14:25,379 --> 00:14:29,793 with Angel wanting custody, Scott wanting custody. 242 00:14:29,793 --> 00:14:31,482 [Cheri speaking] 243 00:14:31,551 --> 00:14:33,862 BRIAN: When we lived in that house, 244 00:14:33,931 --> 00:14:36,689 it was like having three parents in one house. 245 00:14:36,758 --> 00:14:39,275 Our whole childhood was just me, 246 00:14:39,275 --> 00:14:41,482 my sister, grandparents, and my dad. 247 00:14:43,172 --> 00:14:44,965 NARRATOR: Cheri and Brian delight in 248 00:14:44,965 --> 00:14:47,172 watching their grandchildren as they grow. 249 00:14:48,965 --> 00:14:50,862 -[babbling indistinctly] -[Cheri speaking] 250 00:14:53,275 --> 00:14:56,068 NARRATOR: But their home isn't equipped for two toddlers. 251 00:14:58,103 --> 00:15:01,482 BAUMGARTNER: It was very tight at the beginning, and I think 252 00:15:01,551 --> 00:15:04,793 the kids were sleeping in the living room on the couch, 253 00:15:04,793 --> 00:15:08,482 but that wasn't good enough for Brian and Cheri. 254 00:15:08,482 --> 00:15:11,862 They wanted to redo that back room for the kids, 255 00:15:11,862 --> 00:15:13,379 and so that -- 256 00:15:13,379 --> 00:15:15,586 that is what they started to do. 257 00:15:16,620 --> 00:15:19,862 [Cheri speaking] 258 00:15:26,310 --> 00:15:29,000 She's managing -- managing the boys, 259 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,551 managing the guys here. 260 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:35,931 [Cheri laughing] 261 00:15:43,965 --> 00:15:46,275 Cheri is showing 262 00:15:46,275 --> 00:15:50,172 the production, or the lack of production, 263 00:15:51,310 --> 00:15:52,896 in the back room. 264 00:15:52,896 --> 00:15:55,586 And then you can see Brian take a tablet of paper, 265 00:15:55,586 --> 00:15:59,034 and they're like, they're talking all of a sudden, and... 266 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:01,379 like, we gotta show we're doing something here, you know, 267 00:16:01,379 --> 00:16:03,896 we're talking and we're -- but they're just really just 268 00:16:03,896 --> 00:16:05,172 chilling out. 269 00:16:05,172 --> 00:16:09,034 [Cheri speaking] 270 00:16:14,793 --> 00:16:18,586 COUGILL: She's so excited to get that room done for them babies. 271 00:16:18,586 --> 00:16:21,896 Almost like a -- a mother instead of a grandmother. 272 00:16:21,896 --> 00:16:25,793 [all singing] Happy birthday to you. 273 00:16:25,793 --> 00:16:28,172 Happy birthday to you. 274 00:16:28,172 --> 00:16:31,689 This video is Carolyn's second birthday. 275 00:16:32,517 --> 00:16:35,068 And see Cheri right beside her up there. 276 00:16:35,137 --> 00:16:36,862 [singing continues] 277 00:16:36,862 --> 00:16:40,379 -[Cheri speaking] -[Scott speaking] 278 00:16:40,379 --> 00:16:42,862 WOOLUM: She's trying to blow out the candle. 279 00:16:42,931 --> 00:16:45,551 So cute, her little expression on her face. 280 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,655 CAROLYN: My dad just looks like a normal person here, 281 00:16:54,482 --> 00:16:56,965 COUGILL: It's really difficult to 282 00:16:56,965 --> 00:17:01,241 look at a video like this, where there is a happy family. 283 00:17:02,896 --> 00:17:04,689 It's hard to believe that several years later, 284 00:17:04,689 --> 00:17:06,241 there was evil in the house. 285 00:17:19,275 --> 00:17:21,964 NARRATOR: It's Christmas morning 2003. 286 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,137 Cheri Hartman is up 287 00:17:23,137 --> 00:17:25,448 early filming her excited grandchildren, 288 00:17:25,517 --> 00:17:27,241 Carolyn and little Brian. 289 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,517 [Cheri speaking] 290 00:17:36,896 --> 00:17:39,448 When I watch this video, I... 291 00:17:39,517 --> 00:17:42,448 kind of get a little angry, because he doesn't get up. 292 00:17:42,517 --> 00:17:46,551 [Cheri speaking] 293 00:17:46,551 --> 00:17:49,241 I can hear some frustration in Cheri's voice. 294 00:17:49,241 --> 00:17:50,862 [Cheri speaking] 295 00:17:50,931 --> 00:17:54,172 -[Scott speaking] -[Cheri speaking] 296 00:17:54,172 --> 00:17:56,000 She's frustrated, I think, he won't get up 297 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,310 for the kids to open up their gifts. 298 00:17:59,689 --> 00:18:04,034 I can remember my dad being easily stressed, because, 299 00:18:04,034 --> 00:18:05,965 I mean, he had a lot going on. 300 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,586 He was working so much and then having 301 00:18:09,586 --> 00:18:13,000 to find time for me and my sister. 302 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,758 I feel like, during that time, 303 00:18:15,758 --> 00:18:18,586 my dad didn't want to get up for stuff like that. 304 00:18:18,586 --> 00:18:21,103 [Cheri speaking] 305 00:18:27,103 --> 00:18:30,965 During that timeframe, Scott did let Cheri take over 306 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,689 a lot of the duties of -- of being mom. 307 00:18:34,689 --> 00:18:38,482 She really needed Scott to step up and be their father, 308 00:18:38,482 --> 00:18:40,172 the father that he should have been. 309 00:18:44,379 --> 00:18:47,586 NARRATOR: By 2007, after a lengthy court battle, 310 00:18:47,586 --> 00:18:51,517 Scott is awarded full custody of Carolyn and little Brian. 311 00:18:53,586 --> 00:18:55,310 I was terrified, 312 00:18:57,586 --> 00:19:01,862 because, um, he had the most precious things 313 00:19:01,862 --> 00:19:03,137 in the world to me 314 00:19:05,172 --> 00:19:06,758 in his grasp, 315 00:19:08,034 --> 00:19:12,448 and he did use that 316 00:19:12,448 --> 00:19:15,275 in so many ways 317 00:19:15,275 --> 00:19:17,827 to keep me and the children apart. 318 00:19:19,482 --> 00:19:21,689 NARRATOR: As the kids grow older, they begin 319 00:19:21,689 --> 00:19:24,448 to notice some worrying behavior from their dad. 320 00:19:26,586 --> 00:19:30,586 BRIAN: I seen him, uh, a couple times taking drugs. 321 00:19:30,586 --> 00:19:34,000 His whole attitude changed after he would go, 322 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,793 and he'd snort a pill or take one. 323 00:19:37,793 --> 00:19:41,655 He'd seem... like, more relaxed, 324 00:19:41,724 --> 00:19:44,655 but really easily irritated at the same time. 325 00:19:45,551 --> 00:19:48,965 CAROLYN: I'm pretty sure it was pain medicine, like pain pills. 326 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:53,379 My dad would often tell me that he was in pain -- 327 00:19:53,379 --> 00:19:59,172 in his back, his legs, and he did work a pretty intense job. 328 00:19:59,172 --> 00:20:02,965 I think that dad started using pain medicine because he didn't 329 00:20:02,965 --> 00:20:05,344 really have a way to deal with the pain. 330 00:20:05,344 --> 00:20:08,862 He didn't really have health insurance that he used anyways. 331 00:20:18,448 --> 00:20:20,241 NARRATOR: In January 2008, 332 00:20:20,310 --> 00:20:22,586 as Scott's addiction starts to take hold, 333 00:20:22,586 --> 00:20:25,068 the Hartmans receive some frightening news. 334 00:20:27,172 --> 00:20:28,689 WOOLUM: When we found out that Cheri 335 00:20:28,689 --> 00:20:30,482 was diagnosed with her brain cancer, 336 00:20:30,482 --> 00:20:32,965 we were completely shocked. 337 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,103 Scott really seemed to step up. 338 00:20:35,103 --> 00:20:38,655 Um, you know, I think things got better for a little bit. 339 00:20:39,689 --> 00:20:43,758 My dad was the main one taking my grandma to appointments, 340 00:20:43,758 --> 00:20:46,344 especially when my grandpa had to go 341 00:20:46,344 --> 00:20:49,034 do his construction stuff. 342 00:20:49,034 --> 00:20:50,862 COUGILL: We were very proud of Scott 343 00:20:50,862 --> 00:20:52,689 for stepping up and helping his mom. 344 00:20:52,689 --> 00:20:54,448 His mom had done so much for him with 345 00:20:54,448 --> 00:20:57,793 the kids, and we thought basically it was about time, 346 00:20:57,793 --> 00:20:59,862 Cheri got... 347 00:20:59,862 --> 00:21:01,206 some love in return. 348 00:21:07,103 --> 00:21:11,655 WOOLUM: The cancer treatment really affected Cheri. 349 00:21:11,724 --> 00:21:13,586 She was very weak, 350 00:21:13,586 --> 00:21:17,000 and she lost her hair, and she had had brain surgery. 351 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,551 She had a lot of pain. 352 00:21:22,344 --> 00:21:26,758 So she was prescribed several different pain medications. 353 00:21:26,827 --> 00:21:29,379 I know one of those being morphine 354 00:21:29,379 --> 00:21:31,758 and another being, um, Oxycodone. 355 00:21:32,965 --> 00:21:35,655 COUGILL: But she wanted to fight, and she was fighting. 356 00:21:35,724 --> 00:21:38,448 She had two grand babies that were depending on her 357 00:21:38,448 --> 00:21:40,965 and relying on her to get better. 358 00:21:43,379 --> 00:21:47,689 WOOLUM: She would go in several times a week for her radiation. 359 00:21:47,689 --> 00:21:50,965 But that was scary. We were concerned. 360 00:21:56,758 --> 00:21:59,551 And then Scott had taken Cheri 361 00:21:59,551 --> 00:22:01,172 to a doctor's appointment 362 00:22:02,068 --> 00:22:06,586 and had taken a prescription pad and had written 363 00:22:06,586 --> 00:22:09,758 a prescription and was caught doing that. 364 00:22:11,448 --> 00:22:14,758 He was arrested for forging a prescription. 365 00:22:16,965 --> 00:22:20,448 Cheri was extremely concerned about 366 00:22:20,517 --> 00:22:23,241 the path that Scott was on at this point. 367 00:22:24,551 --> 00:22:26,344 NARRATOR: Scott is charged with attempting to 368 00:22:26,344 --> 00:22:29,137 obtain a controlled substance by fraud. 369 00:22:29,137 --> 00:22:31,103 He receives a suspended sentence 370 00:22:31,103 --> 00:22:32,862 and is placed on probation. 371 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:43,000 WOOLUM: And then, in the summer of 2009, 372 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:47,758 Cheri had called me, and she was extremely upset. 373 00:22:47,827 --> 00:22:50,965 She was having some issues running out of 374 00:22:50,965 --> 00:22:52,206 her pain medications. 375 00:22:53,275 --> 00:22:58,000 She told me that Scott was saying 376 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,344 that she didn't remember 377 00:23:00,413 --> 00:23:03,551 what she was taking, and that's why she was running out, 378 00:23:03,620 --> 00:23:05,482 which wasn't the case. 379 00:23:05,482 --> 00:23:07,965 Cheri knew what she was taking. 380 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,241 And Brian, finally -- they knew 381 00:23:10,310 --> 00:23:12,310 that Scott was taking the medications. 382 00:23:13,551 --> 00:23:16,172 BAUMGARTNER: It's like Scott had his own 383 00:23:16,172 --> 00:23:18,310 dealer right there in the home. 384 00:23:19,793 --> 00:23:21,793 Dad would switch out 385 00:23:21,793 --> 00:23:25,758 the prescriptions for vitamins that looked similar. 386 00:23:25,827 --> 00:23:27,758 He would have me do the counting, 387 00:23:27,758 --> 00:23:30,000 which I -- at the time, I knew was wrong, 388 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,000 but he was my dad. 389 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,827 So why was I gonna question that? 390 00:23:35,275 --> 00:23:40,793 When he got access to more drugs, he started becoming, 391 00:23:40,793 --> 00:23:43,000 um, a little more aggressive. 392 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,137 He was not the same person at that point. 393 00:23:47,793 --> 00:23:50,655 To see your mother that sick, 394 00:23:50,655 --> 00:23:51,965 and then to be able to just take her 395 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,862 pain medication and watch her suffer and be in pain... 396 00:23:55,931 --> 00:23:58,103 it's shocking. 397 00:23:59,344 --> 00:24:03,241 It came down to Brian having to just physically 398 00:24:03,241 --> 00:24:04,862 lock up the medication, 399 00:24:04,931 --> 00:24:09,551 and when it was time, he would unlock it and give it to her. 400 00:24:10,586 --> 00:24:13,758 Cheri had expressed to me how angry Scott was about that, 401 00:24:13,827 --> 00:24:17,000 because he didn't want to ever admit that he was taking it, 402 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,103 and there was a lot of arguing when that happened. 403 00:24:27,344 --> 00:24:29,344 NARRATOR: In February 2010, 404 00:24:29,344 --> 00:24:31,551 after battling cancer for two years, 405 00:24:31,551 --> 00:24:33,758 Cheri received some welcome news. 406 00:24:34,758 --> 00:24:38,068 When Cheri called me and told me that she was in remission, 407 00:24:38,068 --> 00:24:39,034 she sounded good. 408 00:24:39,034 --> 00:24:40,655 She sounded happy, felt like 409 00:24:40,724 --> 00:24:43,172 she was finally beating the cancer. 410 00:24:44,586 --> 00:24:45,655 I was over the moon. 411 00:24:45,655 --> 00:24:47,655 I thought maybe that would also help change dad, 412 00:24:47,724 --> 00:24:49,758 because he wouldn't have as much access to, 413 00:24:49,758 --> 00:24:50,655 you know, the bad stuff. 414 00:24:53,103 --> 00:24:55,103 [operator speaking] 415 00:24:55,103 --> 00:24:58,724 [Scott speaking] 416 00:25:18,758 --> 00:25:20,000 DALY: On February 12th, 417 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:25,034 a few minutes after 11, Scott Hartman made a 911 call. 418 00:25:25,034 --> 00:25:27,034 He told the operator that he had just 419 00:25:27,034 --> 00:25:30,655 arrived home and that his mother was in distress. 420 00:25:30,655 --> 00:25:32,379 [operator speaking] 421 00:25:32,379 --> 00:25:34,758 [Scott speaking] 422 00:25:50,275 --> 00:25:53,965 When the paramedics arrived, they took Cheri to the hospital. 423 00:25:53,965 --> 00:25:56,793 They were still working on her, trying 424 00:25:56,793 --> 00:25:59,827 to resuscitate her on the way there. 425 00:26:00,896 --> 00:26:04,448 When they arrived, the emergency room physician 426 00:26:04,517 --> 00:26:05,862 pronounced her deceased. 427 00:26:08,482 --> 00:26:12,137 The coroner was of the opinion that her cause of death 428 00:26:12,137 --> 00:26:15,137 was respiratory failure, and it was attributed 429 00:26:15,137 --> 00:26:16,655 to her cancer condition. 430 00:26:20,172 --> 00:26:23,655 CAROLYN: The morning after, I woke up, Brian was up 431 00:26:23,655 --> 00:26:26,034 and crying, and dad tells me, "Hey, 432 00:26:26,034 --> 00:26:29,965 your grandma is dead." And I just felt numb. 433 00:26:33,172 --> 00:26:36,241 BAUMGARTNER: Scott was calling me, and when he told me... 434 00:26:43,586 --> 00:26:45,517 [sniffles] Just a minute. 435 00:26:47,586 --> 00:26:48,758 I... 436 00:26:48,758 --> 00:26:50,862 I couldn't believe what he was telling me, 437 00:26:50,931 --> 00:26:53,137 because I had just talked to her a week earlier. 438 00:26:55,793 --> 00:26:57,620 I said, "How's your dad doing?" 439 00:26:58,482 --> 00:27:03,931 He told me that his dad took off, and I don't... 440 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,862 I'm -- I'm -- I was so shocked at the moment, 441 00:27:07,862 --> 00:27:09,551 and it's just like... 442 00:27:09,620 --> 00:27:13,448 there were just things that were not -- wasn't adding up. 443 00:27:14,689 --> 00:27:17,965 Scott said that Brian had left 444 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:22,448 and told Scott, "Here's my checkbook, 445 00:27:22,448 --> 00:27:25,172 plan your mother's funeral," and he would be back. 446 00:27:26,655 --> 00:27:28,655 We knew there -- there's no way. 447 00:27:28,724 --> 00:27:31,448 No way. Brian was not going to leave 448 00:27:31,517 --> 00:27:33,931 at the time his wife passed. 449 00:27:40,758 --> 00:27:44,965 Scott had planned the funeral for Cheri -- at the time, 450 00:27:44,965 --> 00:27:48,344 we found out Cheri was cremated, and we were shocked, 451 00:27:48,413 --> 00:27:52,620 because our family just doesn't do any type of cremation. 452 00:27:54,655 --> 00:27:57,586 Scott and the kids didn't show up to 453 00:27:57,586 --> 00:28:00,758 the funeral, and Brian didn't show up to the funeral. 454 00:28:00,758 --> 00:28:03,206 Everybody kind of wondered what was going on. 455 00:28:06,689 --> 00:28:09,448 [operator speaking] 456 00:28:09,448 --> 00:28:12,103 [girl speaking] 457 00:28:12,103 --> 00:28:14,655 DALY: On February 20th, the day of Cheri's funeral, 458 00:28:14,655 --> 00:28:18,862 at about 2:17 p.m., a neighbor 459 00:28:18,862 --> 00:28:21,862 of Brian and Cheri Hartman 460 00:28:21,931 --> 00:28:24,862 reported that Scott Hartman 461 00:28:24,931 --> 00:28:27,172 was trying to break into their house. 462 00:28:27,172 --> 00:28:29,137 [woman speaking] 463 00:28:29,137 --> 00:28:30,931 [girl speaking] 464 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,793 They suspected he was there trying 465 00:28:34,793 --> 00:28:37,965 to obtain some medicines from their father. 466 00:28:40,862 --> 00:28:42,965 NARRATOR: Scott flees the scene in his vehicle, 467 00:28:42,965 --> 00:28:45,206 but officers quickly track him down. 468 00:28:46,275 --> 00:28:50,241 DALY: Scott was arrested on a road just beyond the house 469 00:28:50,310 --> 00:28:51,862 and transported to 470 00:28:51,931 --> 00:28:54,448 the Randolph County jail, where he was booked in 471 00:28:54,448 --> 00:28:56,448 on a burglary charge. 472 00:28:56,517 --> 00:28:58,758 [woman speaking] 473 00:28:58,827 --> 00:29:00,241 [Scott speaking] 474 00:29:02,448 --> 00:29:04,137 NARRATOR: News of Scott's arrest 475 00:29:04,137 --> 00:29:06,551 reaches the family at Cheri's funeral. 476 00:29:06,551 --> 00:29:09,448 Finding out that he's not there, 477 00:29:09,517 --> 00:29:12,068 and he was so worried about drugs that that was more 478 00:29:12,068 --> 00:29:13,862 important to him, 479 00:29:13,931 --> 00:29:16,068 it -- shock. 480 00:29:16,068 --> 00:29:18,965 It just -- shock. I don't have any other words. 481 00:29:21,586 --> 00:29:24,896 [phone ringing] 482 00:29:24,896 --> 00:29:27,000 BAUMGARTNER: Later that night, 483 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,586 I got a call from Scott from the jail, 484 00:29:30,586 --> 00:29:35,448 and he didn't even ask about his kids or anything. 485 00:29:35,517 --> 00:29:38,275 The first thing he told me or asked me, he says, "Barb, 486 00:29:38,275 --> 00:29:40,655 "he says, I need you to go to the house, 487 00:29:40,724 --> 00:29:45,206 and I need you to get dad's checkbook and bail me out." 488 00:29:46,103 --> 00:29:48,344 I said, "I am not gonna come bail you out." 489 00:29:48,413 --> 00:29:51,344 I said, "When your dad comes home," I said, 490 00:29:51,413 --> 00:29:54,862 "Your dad can do that if he wants to do that." 491 00:29:54,931 --> 00:29:58,034 And he was getting pretty agitated with me, 492 00:29:58,034 --> 00:30:01,482 and he said, "Barb, you don't get it." 493 00:30:01,482 --> 00:30:04,655 He said, "Dad's not coming home." 494 00:30:06,034 --> 00:30:09,551 And all of a sudden, you know, I'm thinking something's wrong. 495 00:30:11,379 --> 00:30:13,896 NARRATOR: As Barbara files a missing persons report 496 00:30:13,896 --> 00:30:15,241 for her brother, Brian, 497 00:30:15,241 --> 00:30:18,137 Randolph County Detective Doug Fritz questions 498 00:30:18,137 --> 00:30:20,310 Scott about his dad's whereabouts. 499 00:30:21,344 --> 00:30:23,551 PULLINS: Scott appeared to be under the influence, 500 00:30:23,551 --> 00:30:25,655 which I believe when he was arrested, 501 00:30:25,655 --> 00:30:29,241 he had admitted that he had taken a lot of pain pills. 502 00:30:30,103 --> 00:30:33,413 [Fritz speaking] 503 00:30:37,172 --> 00:30:38,758 [Scott speaking] 504 00:30:38,827 --> 00:30:40,517 [Fritz speaking] 505 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,137 When Detective Fritz interviewed Scott, 506 00:30:45,137 --> 00:30:47,000 he initially -- he was just trying 507 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,965 to find out if Scott knew the whereabouts 508 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,655 of his father 509 00:30:50,655 --> 00:30:54,758 or the circumstances in which he had left his property. 510 00:30:56,482 --> 00:30:59,137 NARRATOR: The detective also quizzes Scott about something 511 00:30:59,137 --> 00:31:02,137 he told jail officers on the day of his arrest. 512 00:31:04,172 --> 00:31:05,344 [Fritz speaking] 513 00:31:20,379 --> 00:31:22,448 [Scott speaking] 514 00:31:27,793 --> 00:31:29,965 [Fritz speaking] 515 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,482 DALY: When Detective Fritz confronted him with 516 00:31:33,482 --> 00:31:35,344 that inconsistency, 517 00:31:35,344 --> 00:31:37,586 Scott really didn't have a good explanation 518 00:31:37,586 --> 00:31:39,241 for why he had said that. 519 00:31:41,241 --> 00:31:44,448 NARRATOR: Police obtain a search warrant for the Hartman home. 520 00:31:45,689 --> 00:31:49,000 PULLINS: We responded to the location, 521 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,172 and in the bedroom, 522 00:31:52,862 --> 00:31:57,896 we were noticing a lot of blood spatter on the walls. 523 00:31:57,896 --> 00:32:00,827 The mattress had a lot of blood in it. 524 00:32:03,379 --> 00:32:07,586 There appeared to be bloodstains and what they call drag marks 525 00:32:07,586 --> 00:32:12,310 in the hallway from the bedroom out into the garage. 526 00:32:14,068 --> 00:32:15,551 PULLINS: We found that that trail of 527 00:32:15,620 --> 00:32:17,758 blood somewhat stopped in the garage. 528 00:32:17,758 --> 00:32:21,068 So we started focusing a search in the garage area 529 00:32:21,068 --> 00:32:23,068 and came across a -- 530 00:32:23,068 --> 00:32:27,655 a black plastic -- like a tool box that would be 531 00:32:27,655 --> 00:32:28,862 in the bed of a pickup truck. 532 00:32:30,862 --> 00:32:34,862 When we opened the black tool box, 533 00:32:34,862 --> 00:32:38,862 we originally saw some tarps that appeared to be wrapped up. 534 00:32:38,862 --> 00:32:41,344 We began moving the tarps. 535 00:32:43,655 --> 00:32:45,172 And... 536 00:32:45,172 --> 00:32:47,448 you could see what appeared to be someone's head. 537 00:32:49,275 --> 00:32:53,758 There was obvious damage to his head that we believed was 538 00:32:53,827 --> 00:32:54,913 a gunshot wound, 539 00:32:54,913 --> 00:32:58,413 but we felt that it was Brian that was in the box. 540 00:33:02,896 --> 00:33:04,965 NARRATOR: Brian's family hear about the police 541 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,103 search and rush to the scene. 542 00:33:08,896 --> 00:33:12,172 COUGILL: When we pulled up to Brian's house, 543 00:33:15,896 --> 00:33:16,862 an officer said that they had found a body. 544 00:33:19,137 --> 00:33:20,620 We knew they had found Brian. 545 00:33:23,689 --> 00:33:27,137 And I remember looking at the house, and I just saw evil. 546 00:33:27,137 --> 00:33:29,379 I knew something evil had happened in that home. 547 00:33:29,379 --> 00:33:30,827 I just didn't know what it was. 548 00:33:50,448 --> 00:33:52,172 NARRATOR: When Scott Hartman is told that 549 00:33:52,172 --> 00:33:55,000 a search has been conducted at his family property, 550 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,758 he decides to come clean. 551 00:33:58,275 --> 00:34:01,655 [Scott speaking] 552 00:34:27,447 --> 00:34:30,068 Scott told us that his family 553 00:34:30,068 --> 00:34:34,585 had formed somewhat of a suicide pact. 554 00:34:34,585 --> 00:34:38,034 He also said that Brian had agreed with 555 00:34:38,034 --> 00:34:41,068 the suicide pact, but Brian wanted to go before 556 00:34:41,068 --> 00:34:42,551 Cheri, because 557 00:34:42,620 --> 00:34:45,827 he would not be able to stand seeing Cheri deceased. 558 00:34:55,757 --> 00:34:57,586 PULLINS: Scott told me that on the morning of 559 00:34:57,586 --> 00:35:01,965 February 12th, he started to medicate his mother. 560 00:35:49,275 --> 00:35:51,862 He was trying to convince the detectives that he was 561 00:35:51,862 --> 00:35:55,034 a reluctant participant in their plan and that 562 00:35:55,034 --> 00:36:00,068 he was almost doing his mom a favor, or it was at her 563 00:36:00,068 --> 00:36:02,758 coercion that he killed his father. 564 00:36:03,896 --> 00:36:05,551 [detective speaking] 565 00:36:11,965 --> 00:36:14,448 -[Scott speaking] -[detective speaking] 566 00:36:15,793 --> 00:36:17,241 [Scott speaking] 567 00:36:19,379 --> 00:36:22,034 To shoot a parent and then have no feelings 568 00:36:22,034 --> 00:36:26,172 whatsoever when you're talking about it in an interview, 569 00:36:26,172 --> 00:36:27,379 the only thing I can say is 570 00:36:27,379 --> 00:36:29,758 addiction has totally taken over his life. 571 00:36:29,758 --> 00:36:33,137 -[detective speaking] -[Scott speaking] 572 00:36:44,172 --> 00:36:46,000 DALY: It's like some sort of a mitigation, 573 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:50,448 like he's helping his dad out by cleaning things up 574 00:36:50,517 --> 00:36:51,862 and getting rid of things, 575 00:36:51,931 --> 00:36:55,655 and he's being a good son, doing what his dad wanted him to do. 576 00:36:56,551 --> 00:36:58,310 Brian's autopsy showed 577 00:37:00,068 --> 00:37:01,793 that he was shot in the back 578 00:37:01,793 --> 00:37:05,241 of the head with a 12-gauge shotgun, 579 00:37:05,241 --> 00:37:06,862 and that was the cause of death. 580 00:37:07,689 --> 00:37:10,862 And in Scott's house, we located 581 00:37:10,862 --> 00:37:14,965 the 12-gauge shotgun, and in a corner, 582 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,206 um, that had the spent casing still inside the shotgun. 583 00:37:20,896 --> 00:37:22,862 Um, in regards to Cheri's death, 584 00:37:24,034 --> 00:37:28,551 after the coroner had released Cheri's body back to Scott, 585 00:37:28,620 --> 00:37:31,103 he had her cremated. 586 00:37:31,103 --> 00:37:33,034 This prevented us from 587 00:37:34,103 --> 00:37:36,551 doing any autopsy or anything that might 588 00:37:36,551 --> 00:37:39,034 have revealed a different cause of death. 589 00:37:40,482 --> 00:37:43,137 DALY: When I heard that initial story by Scott 590 00:37:43,137 --> 00:37:46,896 that this was a plan that had been concocted, 591 00:37:46,896 --> 00:37:49,448 I didn't believe it -- it did not make sense. 592 00:37:50,551 --> 00:37:54,241 Cheri's physical condition was not nearly 593 00:37:54,241 --> 00:37:57,862 as bad as what Scott had said it was. 594 00:37:57,862 --> 00:38:03,000 In fact, the friends and family of Cheri had 595 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,344 described her as being in remission 596 00:38:06,344 --> 00:38:09,137 and that she was generally a happy person, 597 00:38:09,137 --> 00:38:10,758 not at all suicidal. 598 00:38:12,241 --> 00:38:14,965 NARRATOR: Detectives dig deeper for a motive. 599 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,655 PULLINS: And we found that Scott had wrote himself 600 00:38:18,655 --> 00:38:23,482 a check for the amount of $2,000 from his dad's account. 601 00:38:23,482 --> 00:38:30,000 He still had his dad's wallet and debit card, and he was also 602 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,551 filling prescriptions of his mother's 603 00:38:32,551 --> 00:38:36,275 after she had passed -- all of that in conjunction led 604 00:38:36,275 --> 00:38:39,862 me to my eventual thoughts of 605 00:38:39,931 --> 00:38:43,241 he was killing his parents to feed his addiction habit 606 00:38:43,310 --> 00:38:44,655 in any way that he could. 607 00:38:48,344 --> 00:38:50,758 DALY: Scott Hartman's double murder trial 608 00:38:50,758 --> 00:38:53,448 began on October the 7th, 2013, 609 00:38:53,448 --> 00:38:56,103 in Randolph County, Winchester, Indiana. 610 00:38:57,896 --> 00:39:00,655 NARRATOR: Prosecutor Daly maps out what happened at 611 00:39:00,655 --> 00:39:04,344 the Hartman home on February 12th, 2010. 612 00:39:05,586 --> 00:39:09,137 DALY: What I presented to the jury is that 613 00:39:09,137 --> 00:39:12,137 Scott walked in while his dad was asleep, 614 00:39:13,241 --> 00:39:14,655 put the shotgun up to the back 615 00:39:14,655 --> 00:39:16,551 of his head, and pulled the trigger. 616 00:39:16,551 --> 00:39:18,551 [gunshot blasts] 617 00:39:18,620 --> 00:39:22,034 Now, Scott may have already over medicated his mother, 618 00:39:22,034 --> 00:39:24,448 and it's possible Brian didn't know that. 619 00:39:24,517 --> 00:39:28,448 It's even possible he could have asphyxiated her. 620 00:39:28,517 --> 00:39:30,344 [sirens wailing] 621 00:39:30,413 --> 00:39:35,448 When the paramedics arrived to take Cheri to the hospital, 622 00:39:35,517 --> 00:39:38,862 Brian was probably already dead in the back bedroom. 623 00:39:39,793 --> 00:39:43,896 While Cheri was on her way to the hospital, 624 00:39:43,896 --> 00:39:48,241 Scott was probably cleaning things up, 625 00:39:48,310 --> 00:39:51,448 dragging his dad's body from the bed 626 00:39:51,517 --> 00:39:55,172 out into the garage and up into that box. 627 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,793 We did talk about his drug addiction 628 00:40:01,793 --> 00:40:05,000 as a possible reason for why he had 629 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,103 to kill his parents, because they were standing in the way 630 00:40:08,103 --> 00:40:10,655 of him obtaining his drugs. 631 00:40:13,379 --> 00:40:16,034 NARRATOR: Scott Hartman is found guilty of murdering both of 632 00:40:16,034 --> 00:40:17,241 his parents. 633 00:40:17,241 --> 00:40:20,758 The judge sentences him to a total of 120 years. 634 00:40:23,068 --> 00:40:26,551 I remember the judge, when he sentenced Scott, 635 00:40:26,551 --> 00:40:30,172 told him that he was nothing but a cold-blooded murderer. 636 00:40:30,172 --> 00:40:32,379 Um... 637 00:40:32,379 --> 00:40:35,172 and I believe that's what Scott -- Scott was. 638 00:40:35,172 --> 00:40:36,448 He's a cold-blooded murder. 639 00:40:38,689 --> 00:40:40,965 BAUMGARTNER: I would have never in a million years thought 640 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,551 that he would have ever done anything like this. 641 00:40:44,482 --> 00:40:48,724 He's where he should be, because he's a danger to society. 642 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,758 BRIAN: He just messed up his mind on 643 00:40:52,827 --> 00:40:54,724 the drugs, and it made him a monster. 644 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,172 CAROLYN: When everything happened, Brian and I lost 645 00:40:59,172 --> 00:41:01,000 everything but each other. 646 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,965 We lost our house that we were growing up in. 647 00:41:04,793 --> 00:41:09,862 I lost the mom in my life and grandpa in my life. 648 00:41:11,793 --> 00:41:13,931 I talk about my grandparents a lot. 649 00:41:14,896 --> 00:41:18,103 Uh, this is -- I take grandma with me, um, 650 00:41:18,103 --> 00:41:20,103 wherever I think she would have liked to have gone. 651 00:41:20,103 --> 00:41:23,103 This has some of her ashes in it from... 652 00:41:23,103 --> 00:41:26,724 yeah, so, uh, I keep a part of her with me. 653 00:41:30,965 --> 00:41:33,586 I would give anything to be able to see them again.