1 00:00:29,379 --> 00:00:31,448 Scott was the center of Ryan and Cheri's world. 2 00:00:31,551 --> 00:00:33,482 [Scott laughs] 3 00:00:33,586 --> 00:00:36,241 Scott had the world at his fingertips at this point. 4 00:00:40,103 --> 00:00:42,689 He was a really good dad. 5 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:50,172 His personality changed on such a drastic level. 6 00:00:50,275 --> 00:00:52,517 I would have never in a million years thought 7 00:00:52,620 --> 00:00:55,000 that he would have ever done anything like this. 8 00:00:55,103 --> 00:00:57,137 [911 dispatcher speaking] 9 00:00:57,241 --> 00:00:59,034 [man speaking] 10 00:00:59,137 --> 00:01:00,551 Something evil happened in that home. 11 00:01:00,655 --> 00:01:02,620 I just didn't know what it was. 12 00:01:02,724 --> 00:01:04,724 [man speaking] 13 00:01:10,586 --> 00:01:14,206 [theme music playing] 14 00:01:22,482 --> 00:01:26,655 [rhythmic drum beat playing] 15 00:01:29,310 --> 00:01:33,413 NARRATOR: 39-year-old Cheri Hartman is filming her 19-year-old son 16 00:01:33,517 --> 00:01:35,172 Scott's Army graduation. 17 00:01:36,517 --> 00:01:41,793 I just can't imagine the pride that must be leaping out of 18 00:01:41,896 --> 00:01:43,551 Cheri right now being there and -- 19 00:01:43,655 --> 00:01:45,758 and videotaping that. 20 00:01:47,517 --> 00:01:50,896 Cheri would dote and tell anyone and everyone 21 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,758 that her son Scott was in the Army. 22 00:01:52,862 --> 00:01:55,586 [shouting indistinctly] 23 00:01:55,689 --> 00:01:58,551 NARRATOR: Cheri is recording the ceremony for Scott's dad, 24 00:01:58,655 --> 00:02:00,689 39-year-old Brian Hartman, 25 00:02:00,793 --> 00:02:04,034 who hasn't made the 600-mile trip from their home in 26 00:02:04,137 --> 00:02:05,931 rural Indiana. 27 00:02:06,034 --> 00:02:09,172 Brian didn't go to the graduation because 28 00:02:09,275 --> 00:02:10,655 Brian never 29 00:02:10,758 --> 00:02:13,827 really left his house unless it was for work. 30 00:02:13,931 --> 00:02:15,862 Brian was a homebody. 31 00:02:17,931 --> 00:02:20,689 It was no disrespect on Scott's part or Cheri's part. 32 00:02:20,793 --> 00:02:22,137 That was just Brian. 33 00:02:24,724 --> 00:02:25,827 [laughs] 34 00:02:25,931 --> 00:02:28,241 NARRATOR: After the event, Scott relaxes with 35 00:02:28,344 --> 00:02:31,000 a friend who has joined Cheri on the trip. 36 00:02:38,517 --> 00:02:41,586 They haven't gotten back home yet, 37 00:02:41,689 --> 00:02:45,034 and, uh, just making a video for Brian. 38 00:02:47,241 --> 00:02:49,067 He sounds so much like his dad. 39 00:02:51,517 --> 00:02:54,344 COUGILL: Scott is beaming with pride, with a smile 40 00:02:54,448 --> 00:02:56,689 on his face of what he's just accomplished. 41 00:02:58,379 --> 00:03:02,379 NARRATOR: Scott grabs the camera and turns it on his mom. 42 00:03:02,482 --> 00:03:04,965 BAUMGARTNER: That is definitely Cheri not liking 43 00:03:05,068 --> 00:03:07,310 to be in front of the camera. 44 00:03:07,413 --> 00:03:08,724 Scott got her good. 45 00:03:08,827 --> 00:03:10,793 [laughs] 46 00:03:10,896 --> 00:03:15,000 That is a genuine smile from Cheri, 47 00:03:15,103 --> 00:03:18,103 but I think underneath of that smile, there was concern, 48 00:03:18,206 --> 00:03:20,275 you know, that Scott is going to be leaving again soon. 49 00:03:22,206 --> 00:03:23,551 NARRATOR: Back home in Indiana, 50 00:03:23,655 --> 00:03:26,206 Scott finally has the chance to mark the occasion 51 00:03:26,310 --> 00:03:29,551 with his dad, seen here in his signature yellow cap. 52 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,930 This must have been a celebration for Brian to bring 53 00:03:34,034 --> 00:03:36,724 out the fireworks, and he was glad Scott was home. 54 00:03:39,965 --> 00:03:42,172 Scott looks healthy. 55 00:03:42,275 --> 00:03:45,448 Yeah, he had the world at his fingertips at this point. 56 00:03:48,862 --> 00:03:51,172 NARRATOR: Scott's military career will take him away 57 00:03:51,275 --> 00:03:53,620 from the only home he's ever known. 58 00:03:53,724 --> 00:03:55,655 But his parents, Brian and Cheri, 59 00:03:55,758 --> 00:03:58,000 have always preferred a simpler life. 60 00:03:59,172 --> 00:04:02,620 Cheri and Brian got married in 1975. 61 00:04:02,724 --> 00:04:04,551 It was pretty quick out of high school. 62 00:04:05,724 --> 00:04:07,344 Money was tight at that time, 63 00:04:07,448 --> 00:04:11,344 and so she recycled her prom dress into her wedding dress. 64 00:04:14,482 --> 00:04:17,757 NARRATOR: A year later, in October 1976, 65 00:04:17,862 --> 00:04:19,724 Cheri gives birth to a son. 66 00:04:21,067 --> 00:04:24,862 Cheri and Brian named their son Brian Scott 67 00:04:24,965 --> 00:04:26,655 after his father. 68 00:04:26,758 --> 00:04:29,413 Then they went on, they called him Scott. 69 00:04:29,517 --> 00:04:32,000 Um, they had a new baby. They were so excited. 70 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,413 COUGILL: Scott was the center of Brian and Cheri's world. 71 00:04:37,517 --> 00:04:38,586 He couldn't do no wrong. 72 00:04:39,931 --> 00:04:43,517 Cheri and Scott's relationship was very tight. 73 00:04:43,620 --> 00:04:45,517 Brian was a disciplinarian. 74 00:04:45,620 --> 00:04:48,482 He set boundaries, and Cheri was more the loving 75 00:04:48,586 --> 00:04:50,206 mother who didn't want to see Scott get in trouble. 76 00:04:51,793 --> 00:04:54,344 NARRATOR: Brian owns his own construction business, 77 00:04:54,448 --> 00:04:57,413 remodeling and building homes. 78 00:04:57,517 --> 00:04:59,724 BAUMGARTNER: Brian taught 79 00:04:59,827 --> 00:05:01,896 Scott about carpentry work. 80 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,172 Brian would take him on all of the job sites. 81 00:05:05,275 --> 00:05:07,862 He was hoping one day, Scott would take over the business. 82 00:05:10,517 --> 00:05:12,862 WOOLUM: Brian and Scott did not always see 83 00:05:12,965 --> 00:05:13,931 eye to eye on everything, 84 00:05:14,034 --> 00:05:17,103 especially when Scott got older. 85 00:05:17,206 --> 00:05:20,758 So I think for Scott, joining the Army was a way for him 86 00:05:20,862 --> 00:05:26,068 to kind of get out from under Brian's control 87 00:05:26,172 --> 00:05:27,172 for a little while. 88 00:05:29,551 --> 00:05:32,482 NARRATOR: Scott is weeks away from his first Army posting 89 00:05:32,586 --> 00:05:35,103 when someone special walks into his life. 90 00:05:36,206 --> 00:05:39,724 ANGEL: I met Scott in the summer of '96, 91 00:05:39,827 --> 00:05:44,551 I was just so impressed right away. 92 00:05:44,655 --> 00:05:47,862 I had always admired people who served our country 93 00:05:47,965 --> 00:05:52,172 in the military, and he was very charismatic. 94 00:05:52,275 --> 00:05:55,793 And from there, we were a couple. 95 00:05:56,827 --> 00:06:00,172 Within two weeks, he was going to be in Fort Lewis, 96 00:06:00,275 --> 00:06:02,103 Washington State. 97 00:06:02,206 --> 00:06:06,310 So we talked a couple of times on the phone, and I would 98 00:06:06,413 --> 00:06:08,000 write him five- and six-page letters, 99 00:06:08,103 --> 00:06:09,517 and he would write them back. 100 00:06:10,724 --> 00:06:13,275 NARRATOR: Six months later, Angel visits Scott 101 00:06:13,379 --> 00:06:15,793 on the base for the first time. 102 00:06:15,896 --> 00:06:19,965 When I got there, and, uh, we got back to the apartment, 103 00:06:20,068 --> 00:06:22,862 Scott brought out the ring 104 00:06:22,965 --> 00:06:25,172 and asked me to marry him, 105 00:06:25,275 --> 00:06:27,517 and I said yes. 106 00:06:33,275 --> 00:06:35,551 NARRATOR: In August 1997, 107 00:06:35,655 --> 00:06:37,862 Scott and Angel marry in rural Indiana. 108 00:06:39,241 --> 00:06:42,275 ANGEL: Scott was wearing his dress uniform for 109 00:06:42,379 --> 00:06:47,034 the military at the wedding, and he looked very handsome. 110 00:06:48,862 --> 00:06:51,551 COUGILL: My brother, Brian, as always, 111 00:06:51,655 --> 00:06:55,172 had on blue jeans, T-shirt, and a yellow hat, 112 00:06:55,275 --> 00:06:57,965 which was his common everyday style. 113 00:06:58,068 --> 00:07:00,724 Attending his son's wedding made him pretty proud. 114 00:07:03,448 --> 00:07:04,758 ANGEL: At the wedding, 115 00:07:04,862 --> 00:07:09,379 I was in the very early days, just about five days 116 00:07:09,482 --> 00:07:12,137 over a month pregnant with my first child. 117 00:07:12,241 --> 00:07:13,862 [woman speaking] 118 00:07:15,758 --> 00:07:17,896 WOOLUM: When Cheri found out she was gonna become a grandma, 119 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,034 I remember getting a call from her, 120 00:07:20,137 --> 00:07:22,482 and she was extremely excited. 121 00:07:25,137 --> 00:07:27,931 While I was pregnant, the nausea 122 00:07:29,758 --> 00:07:31,344 was overwhelming. 123 00:07:32,379 --> 00:07:34,275 I was agoraphobic. 124 00:07:34,379 --> 00:07:36,000 I got worse and worse, being able 125 00:07:36,103 --> 00:07:38,793 to leave the house, especially being sick. 126 00:07:40,172 --> 00:07:42,724 I had avoidant personality disorder, and they 127 00:07:42,827 --> 00:07:45,758 could not try medications because of my pregnancy. 128 00:07:47,551 --> 00:07:49,689 NARRATOR: Her condition becomes so serious 129 00:07:49,793 --> 00:07:52,413 that Scott has to choose between staying in the Army 130 00:07:52,517 --> 00:07:54,000 and being there for his wife. 131 00:07:55,172 --> 00:07:57,448 COUGILL: Scott left the Army 132 00:07:57,551 --> 00:08:00,965 to come home and support Angel 133 00:08:01,068 --> 00:08:02,275 during her pregnancy. 134 00:08:03,896 --> 00:08:08,000 It was difficult for Scott to walk away from the military. 135 00:08:08,103 --> 00:08:09,689 But I also know that he wanted 136 00:08:09,793 --> 00:08:12,034 to be home to support his family. 137 00:08:13,034 --> 00:08:16,448 -[baby crying] -[Angel speaking] 138 00:08:16,551 --> 00:08:18,034 [chuckling] 139 00:08:18,137 --> 00:08:20,827 -[Angel speaking] -[Scott speaking] 140 00:08:20,931 --> 00:08:22,448 [Angel laughing] 141 00:08:22,551 --> 00:08:25,275 NARRATOR: On March 26th, 1998, 142 00:08:25,379 --> 00:08:27,517 Angel gives birth to baby Carolyn. 143 00:08:29,896 --> 00:08:31,379 ANGEL: Scott cut the cord. 144 00:08:32,895 --> 00:08:34,034 [man speaking] 145 00:08:34,136 --> 00:08:38,688 And I remember when they first laid her on my stomach, 146 00:08:38,793 --> 00:08:42,172 I looked into her eyes, Carolyn's eyes, and... 147 00:08:43,482 --> 00:08:45,586 I fell in love. 148 00:08:47,724 --> 00:08:51,551 NARRATOR: But Angel and Scott struggle as new parents. 149 00:08:51,655 --> 00:08:54,689 We were having difficulties, 150 00:08:55,793 --> 00:08:58,793 and I was admitted 151 00:08:58,896 --> 00:09:01,689 to the mental ward. 152 00:09:01,793 --> 00:09:03,724 They called it postpartum depression, 153 00:09:03,827 --> 00:09:07,206 but I was so happy about 154 00:09:07,310 --> 00:09:10,241 my daughter, but I... 155 00:09:11,827 --> 00:09:16,034 I couldn't speak out yet against Scott. 156 00:09:20,241 --> 00:09:23,103 It was the little things he did, 157 00:09:23,206 --> 00:09:26,758 even before she could talk or anything 158 00:09:26,862 --> 00:09:28,862 at a couple months of age. 159 00:09:30,827 --> 00:09:34,655 He believed in smacking her hand hard if -- 160 00:09:34,758 --> 00:09:37,103 if she was to reach for something. 161 00:09:39,068 --> 00:09:43,689 And when I wanted to go and do things, 162 00:09:43,793 --> 00:09:47,517 he would not let me. 163 00:09:48,655 --> 00:09:50,620 NARRATOR: Eventually, Scott turns to drugs. 164 00:09:53,482 --> 00:09:55,275 it might have been marijuana. 165 00:09:55,379 --> 00:09:57,068 It's hard to say. 166 00:09:57,172 --> 00:10:00,000 I just get the sense that it was more than just marijuana. 167 00:10:01,586 --> 00:10:05,000 His personality changed on such a drastic level. 168 00:10:20,379 --> 00:10:22,310 NARRATOR: By June 1999, 169 00:10:22,413 --> 00:10:24,793 Angel's mental health has improved. 170 00:10:24,896 --> 00:10:28,000 She and Scott welcome another member to the Hartman clan, 171 00:10:28,103 --> 00:10:29,896 a sibling for their daughter, Carolyn. 172 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,413 -Aw. -What do you think? 173 00:10:32,517 --> 00:10:38,068 Brian Kenneth Hartman was born June 9th, 1999. 174 00:10:39,344 --> 00:10:43,103 COUGILL: So we now have a Brian, a Scott, and a little Brian. 175 00:10:43,206 --> 00:10:45,344 That's how we decipher the three. 176 00:10:45,448 --> 00:10:47,758 [woman speaking] 177 00:10:47,862 --> 00:10:51,413 BAUMGARTNER: He's a proud papa, but at the same time, 178 00:10:51,517 --> 00:10:53,000 I'm sure he was overwhelmed. 179 00:10:57,172 --> 00:10:59,310 NARRATOR: For Scott's parents, Cheri and Brian, 180 00:10:59,413 --> 00:11:01,827 their grandson's arrival is overshadowed 181 00:11:01,931 --> 00:11:04,310 by growing worry about Scott's behavior. 182 00:11:05,620 --> 00:11:10,896 I do know there were some drugs involved, and it caused 183 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,517 some tension at home with his mother and father. 184 00:11:14,620 --> 00:11:19,068 There was concern as far as how the kids, 185 00:11:19,172 --> 00:11:21,068 Carolyn and little Brian, were being raised. 186 00:11:24,689 --> 00:11:26,965 When Brian was born, 187 00:11:27,068 --> 00:11:31,344 you know, we tried to stay together and work things out, 188 00:11:31,448 --> 00:11:35,068 but he started getting more controlling. 189 00:11:36,137 --> 00:11:39,689 "You can't leave the house unless I say so," 190 00:11:39,793 --> 00:11:43,103 and, "You need to start work now," 191 00:11:43,206 --> 00:11:47,344 and then he wouldn't want me to be at work away from him. 192 00:11:48,586 --> 00:11:52,206 So I started having a fear of him then. 193 00:11:52,310 --> 00:11:55,275 So I wanted a divorce. 194 00:12:00,137 --> 00:12:03,620 BAUMGARTNER: After Scott and Angel separated, 195 00:12:03,724 --> 00:12:07,206 Scott needed a place to live, and the perfect plan for -- 196 00:12:07,310 --> 00:12:09,344 for them is to move in with the parents, 197 00:12:09,448 --> 00:12:10,448 Brian and Cheri. 198 00:12:12,620 --> 00:12:14,896 [Cheri speaking] 199 00:12:16,103 --> 00:12:18,862 ANGEL: I wanted to get away from Scott, 200 00:12:18,965 --> 00:12:22,896 but I offered Scott that 201 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,965 sharing of custody, because I did not want to 202 00:12:27,068 --> 00:12:30,275 take them away from their father's side of the family. 203 00:12:30,379 --> 00:12:32,172 -[Cheri speaking] -[baby laughing] 204 00:12:33,655 --> 00:12:35,793 I know Brian and Cheri both looked forward 205 00:12:35,896 --> 00:12:38,137 to having both the grandkids under the roof. 206 00:12:38,241 --> 00:12:40,103 [Cheri speaking] 207 00:12:42,413 --> 00:12:45,724 NARRATOR: Brian wants to support his son, so he hires him 208 00:12:45,827 --> 00:12:47,344 to work at his construction company. 209 00:12:47,448 --> 00:12:49,344 [Cheri speaking] 210 00:12:52,965 --> 00:12:54,724 [Brian speaking] 211 00:12:54,827 --> 00:12:55,758 [Cheri chuckles] 212 00:12:57,344 --> 00:12:58,620 [Cheri speaking] 213 00:13:02,206 --> 00:13:05,793 I think Brian wanted Scott to follow in his footsteps. 214 00:13:05,896 --> 00:13:08,827 That was his sidekick. That was his partner. 215 00:13:08,931 --> 00:13:10,034 [man speaking indistinctly] 216 00:13:10,137 --> 00:13:12,551 NARRATOR: For Scott, it's a chance at a fresh start. 217 00:13:14,275 --> 00:13:18,931 Scott had cleaned up -- the drug use, 218 00:13:19,034 --> 00:13:20,793 maybe not completely, but he had cleaned up. 219 00:13:22,517 --> 00:13:25,000 CAROLYN: When Brian and I were super little, 220 00:13:25,103 --> 00:13:27,862 grandma and grandpa and dad were very close. 221 00:13:27,965 --> 00:13:30,310 It seemed like a very back and forth, 222 00:13:30,413 --> 00:13:33,758 like, relationship of dad helped with the work 223 00:13:33,862 --> 00:13:35,827 and grandma and grandpa helped with us. 224 00:13:35,931 --> 00:13:39,620 [babbling indistinctly] 225 00:13:39,724 --> 00:13:41,517 It's pretty apparent that that was my seat 226 00:13:41,620 --> 00:13:43,275 of choice was just sitting with dad, and so... 227 00:13:44,482 --> 00:13:48,448 I wish I remembered more of this stuff. 228 00:13:48,551 --> 00:13:49,344 [babbling indistinctly] 229 00:13:49,448 --> 00:13:51,000 When I was younger, 230 00:13:51,103 --> 00:13:53,931 he was a really good dad. 231 00:13:54,034 --> 00:13:56,068 He could be funny, 232 00:13:56,172 --> 00:13:57,517 be quite strict. 233 00:13:57,620 --> 00:13:59,344 [babbling indistinctly] 234 00:13:59,448 --> 00:14:02,068 [Scott speaking] 235 00:14:03,068 --> 00:14:04,965 But everybody else saw him as, you know, 236 00:14:05,068 --> 00:14:07,379 a single dad who was doing his best. 237 00:14:12,931 --> 00:14:16,275 NARRATOR: By January of 2000, with the support of his parents, 238 00:14:16,379 --> 00:14:19,517 Scott focuses on winning full custody of the kids. 239 00:14:21,827 --> 00:14:25,482 WOOLUM: There was a lot of, um, custody battle issues 240 00:14:25,586 --> 00:14:29,793 with Angel wanting custody, Scott wanting custody. 241 00:14:29,896 --> 00:14:31,551 [Cheri speaking] 242 00:14:31,655 --> 00:14:33,931 BRIAN: When we lived in that house, 243 00:14:34,034 --> 00:14:36,689 it was like having three parents in one house. 244 00:14:36,793 --> 00:14:39,344 Our whole childhood was just me, 245 00:14:39,448 --> 00:14:41,448 my sister, grandparents, and my dad. 246 00:14:43,379 --> 00:14:45,034 NARRATOR: Cheri and Brian delight in 247 00:14:45,137 --> 00:14:47,103 watching their grandchildren as they grow. 248 00:14:49,068 --> 00:14:50,793 -[babbling indistinctly] -[Cheri speaking] 249 00:14:53,448 --> 00:14:56,034 NARRATOR: But their home isn't equipped for two toddlers. 250 00:14:58,241 --> 00:15:01,517 BAUMGARTNER: It was very tight at the beginning, and I think 251 00:15:01,620 --> 00:15:04,896 the kids were sleeping in the living room on the couch, 252 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,586 but that wasn't good enough for Brian and Cheri. 253 00:15:08,689 --> 00:15:11,896 They wanted to redo that back room for the kids, 254 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,517 and so that -- 255 00:15:13,620 --> 00:15:15,551 that is what they started to do. 256 00:15:16,758 --> 00:15:19,793 [Cheri speaking] 257 00:15:26,517 --> 00:15:29,068 She's managing -- managing the boys, 258 00:15:29,172 --> 00:15:30,482 managing the guys here. 259 00:15:34,137 --> 00:15:35,862 [Cheri laughing] 260 00:15:44,068 --> 00:15:46,379 Cheri is showing 261 00:15:46,482 --> 00:15:50,103 the production, or the lack of production, 262 00:15:51,482 --> 00:15:53,000 in the back room. 263 00:15:53,103 --> 00:15:55,655 And then you can see Brian take a tablet of paper, 264 00:15:55,758 --> 00:15:58,965 and they're like, they're talking all of a sudden, and... 265 00:16:00,068 --> 00:16:01,482 like, we gotta show we're doing something here, you know, 266 00:16:01,586 --> 00:16:03,931 we're talking and we're -- but they're just really just 267 00:16:04,034 --> 00:16:05,206 chilling out. 268 00:16:05,310 --> 00:16:09,000 [Cheri speaking] 269 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,620 COUGILL: She's so excited to get that room done for them babies. 270 00:16:18,724 --> 00:16:21,965 Almost like a -- a mother instead of a grandmother. 271 00:16:22,068 --> 00:16:25,827 [all singing] Happy birthday to you. 272 00:16:25,931 --> 00:16:28,275 Happy birthday to you. 273 00:16:28,379 --> 00:16:31,655 This video is Carolyn's second birthday. 274 00:16:32,724 --> 00:16:35,103 And see Cheri right beside her up there. 275 00:16:35,206 --> 00:16:36,862 [singing continues] 276 00:16:36,965 --> 00:16:40,482 -[Cheri speaking] -[Scott speaking] 277 00:16:40,586 --> 00:16:42,931 WOOLUM: She's trying to blow out the candle. 278 00:16:43,034 --> 00:16:45,517 So cute, her little expression on her face. 279 00:16:54,586 --> 00:16:57,000 COUGILL: It's really difficult to 280 00:16:57,103 --> 00:17:01,172 look at a video like this, where there is a happy family. 281 00:17:03,034 --> 00:17:04,723 It's hard to believe that several years later, 282 00:17:04,827 --> 00:17:06,172 there was evil in the house. 283 00:17:19,482 --> 00:17:21,964 NARRATOR: It's Christmas morning 2003. 284 00:17:22,068 --> 00:17:23,241 Cheri Hartman is up 285 00:17:23,344 --> 00:17:25,448 early filming her excited grandchildren, 286 00:17:25,550 --> 00:17:27,172 Carolyn and little Brian. 287 00:17:33,103 --> 00:17:34,448 [Cheri speaking] 288 00:17:37,068 --> 00:17:39,517 When I watch this video, I... 289 00:17:39,620 --> 00:17:42,413 kind of get a little angry, because he doesn't get up. 290 00:17:42,517 --> 00:17:46,620 [Cheri speaking] 291 00:17:46,724 --> 00:17:49,275 I can hear some frustration in Cheri's voice. 292 00:17:49,379 --> 00:17:50,827 [Cheri speaking] 293 00:17:50,931 --> 00:17:54,206 -[Scott speaking] -[Cheri speaking] 294 00:17:54,310 --> 00:17:56,034 She's frustrated, I think, he won't get up 295 00:17:56,137 --> 00:17:58,172 for the kids to open up their gifts. 296 00:17:59,793 --> 00:18:04,137 I can remember my dad being easily stressed, because, 297 00:18:04,241 --> 00:18:06,000 I mean, he had a lot going on. 298 00:18:06,103 --> 00:18:09,689 He was working so much and then having 299 00:18:09,793 --> 00:18:13,034 to find time for me and my sister. 300 00:18:13,137 --> 00:18:15,862 I feel like, during that time, 301 00:18:15,965 --> 00:18:18,586 my dad didn't want to get up for stuff like that. 302 00:18:18,689 --> 00:18:21,034 [Cheri speaking] 303 00:18:27,275 --> 00:18:30,965 During that timeframe, Scott did let Cheri take over 304 00:18:31,068 --> 00:18:34,793 a lot of the duties of -- of being mom. 305 00:18:34,896 --> 00:18:38,586 She really needed Scott to step up and be their father, 306 00:18:38,689 --> 00:18:40,103 the father that he should have been. 307 00:18:44,586 --> 00:18:47,689 NARRATOR: By 2007, after a lengthy court battle, 308 00:18:47,793 --> 00:18:51,448 Scott is awarded full custody of Carolyn and little Brian. 309 00:18:53,724 --> 00:18:55,172 I was terrified, 310 00:18:57,655 --> 00:19:01,896 because, um, he had the most precious things 311 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,068 in the world to me 312 00:19:05,344 --> 00:19:06,689 in his grasp, 313 00:19:08,172 --> 00:19:12,482 and he did use that 314 00:19:12,586 --> 00:19:15,379 in so many ways 315 00:19:15,482 --> 00:19:17,758 to keep me and the children apart. 316 00:19:19,689 --> 00:19:21,758 NARRATOR: As the kids grow older, they begin 317 00:19:21,862 --> 00:19:24,413 to notice some worrying behavior from their dad. 318 00:19:26,793 --> 00:19:30,689 BRIAN: I seen him, uh, a couple times taking drugs. 319 00:19:30,793 --> 00:19:34,068 His whole attitude changed after he would go, 320 00:19:34,172 --> 00:19:37,862 and he'd snort a pill or take one. 321 00:19:37,965 --> 00:19:41,689 He'd seem... like, more relaxed, 322 00:19:41,793 --> 00:19:44,655 but really easily irritated at the same time. 323 00:19:45,724 --> 00:19:49,000 CAROLYN: I'm pretty sure it was pain medicine, like pain pills. 324 00:19:49,103 --> 00:19:53,482 My dad would often tell me that he was in pain -- 325 00:19:53,586 --> 00:19:59,275 in his back, his legs, and he did work a pretty intense job. 326 00:19:59,379 --> 00:20:03,034 I think that dad started using pain medicine because he didn't 327 00:20:03,137 --> 00:20:05,448 really have a way to deal with the pain. 328 00:20:05,551 --> 00:20:08,793 He didn't really have health insurance that he used anyways. 329 00:20:18,586 --> 00:20:20,310 NARRATOR: In January 2008, 330 00:20:20,413 --> 00:20:22,689 as Scott's addiction starts to take hold, 331 00:20:22,793 --> 00:20:25,000 the Hartmans receive some frightening news. 332 00:20:27,379 --> 00:20:28,793 WOOLUM: When we found out that Cheri 333 00:20:28,896 --> 00:20:30,551 was diagnosed with her brain cancer, 334 00:20:30,655 --> 00:20:32,965 we were completely shocked. 335 00:20:33,068 --> 00:20:35,206 Scott really seemed to step up. 336 00:20:35,310 --> 00:20:38,586 Um, you know, I think things got better for a little bit. 337 00:20:39,862 --> 00:20:43,793 My dad was the main one taking my grandma to appointments, 338 00:20:43,896 --> 00:20:46,413 especially when my grandpa had to go 339 00:20:46,517 --> 00:20:49,103 do his construction stuff. 340 00:20:49,206 --> 00:20:50,931 COUGILL: We were very proud of Scott 341 00:20:51,034 --> 00:20:52,758 for stepping up and helping his mom. 342 00:20:52,862 --> 00:20:54,448 His mom had done so much for him with 343 00:20:54,551 --> 00:20:57,758 the kids, and we thought basically it was about time, 344 00:20:57,862 --> 00:20:59,827 Cheri got... 345 00:20:59,931 --> 00:21:01,137 some love in return. 346 00:21:07,275 --> 00:21:11,655 WOOLUM: The cancer treatment really affected Cheri. 347 00:21:11,758 --> 00:21:13,689 She was very weak, 348 00:21:13,793 --> 00:21:17,068 and she lost her hair, and she had had brain surgery. 349 00:21:17,172 --> 00:21:18,482 She had a lot of pain. 350 00:21:22,517 --> 00:21:26,724 So she was prescribed several different pain medications. 351 00:21:26,827 --> 00:21:29,482 I know one of those being morphine 352 00:21:29,586 --> 00:21:31,689 and another being, um, Oxycodone. 353 00:21:33,137 --> 00:21:35,689 COUGILL: But she wanted to fight, and she was fighting. 354 00:21:35,793 --> 00:21:38,551 She had two grand babies that were depending on her 355 00:21:38,655 --> 00:21:40,896 and relying on her to get better. 356 00:21:43,586 --> 00:21:47,793 WOOLUM: She would go in several times a week for her radiation. 357 00:21:47,896 --> 00:21:50,931 But that was scary. We were concerned. 358 00:21:56,827 --> 00:21:59,517 And then Scott had taken Cheri 359 00:21:59,620 --> 00:22:01,103 to a doctor's appointment 360 00:22:02,241 --> 00:22:06,689 and had taken a prescription pad and had written 361 00:22:06,793 --> 00:22:09,689 a prescription and was caught doing that. 362 00:22:11,620 --> 00:22:14,689 He was arrested for forging a prescription. 363 00:22:17,103 --> 00:22:20,517 Cheri was extremely concerned about 364 00:22:20,620 --> 00:22:23,206 the path that Scott was on at this point. 365 00:22:24,724 --> 00:22:26,448 NARRATOR: Scott is charged with attempting to 366 00:22:26,551 --> 00:22:29,241 obtain a controlled substance by fraud. 367 00:22:29,344 --> 00:22:31,172 He receives a suspended sentence 368 00:22:31,275 --> 00:22:32,827 and is placed on probation. 369 00:22:38,172 --> 00:22:43,103 WOOLUM: And then, in the summer of 2009, 370 00:22:43,206 --> 00:22:47,827 Cheri had called me, and she was extremely upset. 371 00:22:47,931 --> 00:22:51,000 She was having some issues running out of 372 00:22:51,103 --> 00:22:52,137 her pain medications. 373 00:22:53,448 --> 00:22:57,931 She told me that Scott was saying 374 00:22:58,034 --> 00:23:00,310 that she didn't remember 375 00:23:00,413 --> 00:23:03,551 what she was taking, and that's why she was running out, 376 00:23:03,655 --> 00:23:05,586 which wasn't the case. 377 00:23:05,689 --> 00:23:07,965 Cheri knew what she was taking. 378 00:23:08,068 --> 00:23:10,275 And Brian, finally -- they knew 379 00:23:10,379 --> 00:23:12,241 that Scott was taking the medications. 380 00:23:13,689 --> 00:23:16,275 BAUMGARTNER: It's like Scott had his own 381 00:23:16,379 --> 00:23:18,241 dealer right there in the home. 382 00:23:19,931 --> 00:23:21,896 Dad would switch out 383 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,793 the prescriptions for vitamins that looked similar. 384 00:23:25,896 --> 00:23:27,827 He would have me do the counting, 385 00:23:27,931 --> 00:23:30,034 which I -- at the time, I knew was wrong, 386 00:23:30,137 --> 00:23:31,103 but he was my dad. 387 00:23:31,206 --> 00:23:32,758 So why was I gonna question that? 388 00:23:35,448 --> 00:23:40,827 When he got access to more drugs, he started becoming, 389 00:23:40,931 --> 00:23:43,103 um, a little more aggressive. 390 00:23:43,206 --> 00:23:45,068 He was not the same person at that point. 391 00:23:47,931 --> 00:23:50,724 To see your mother that sick, 392 00:23:50,827 --> 00:23:52,000 and then to be able to just take her 393 00:23:52,103 --> 00:23:55,793 pain medication and watch her suffer and be in pain... 394 00:23:55,896 --> 00:23:58,000 it's shocking. 395 00:23:59,448 --> 00:24:03,310 It came down to Brian having to just physically 396 00:24:03,413 --> 00:24:04,931 lock up the medication, 397 00:24:05,034 --> 00:24:09,551 and when it was time, he would unlock it and give it to her. 398 00:24:10,758 --> 00:24:13,827 Cheri had expressed to me how angry Scott was about that, 399 00:24:13,931 --> 00:24:17,068 because he didn't want to ever admit that he was taking it, 400 00:24:17,172 --> 00:24:20,034 and there was a lot of arguing when that happened. 401 00:24:27,482 --> 00:24:29,448 NARRATOR: In February 2010, 402 00:24:29,551 --> 00:24:31,655 after battling cancer for two years, 403 00:24:31,758 --> 00:24:33,758 Cheri received some welcome news. 404 00:24:34,931 --> 00:24:38,103 When Cheri called me and told me that she was in remission, 405 00:24:38,206 --> 00:24:39,103 she sounded good. 406 00:24:39,206 --> 00:24:40,724 She sounded happy, felt like 407 00:24:40,827 --> 00:24:43,103 she was finally beating the cancer. 408 00:24:44,689 --> 00:24:45,724 I was over the moon. 409 00:24:45,827 --> 00:24:47,689 I thought maybe that would also help change dad, 410 00:24:47,793 --> 00:24:49,758 because he wouldn't have as much access to, 411 00:24:49,862 --> 00:24:50,482 you know, the bad stuff. 412 00:24:53,241 --> 00:24:55,137 [operator speaking] 413 00:24:55,241 --> 00:24:58,655 [Scott speaking] 414 00:25:18,931 --> 00:25:20,172 DALY: On February 12th, 415 00:25:20,275 --> 00:25:25,172 a few minutes after 11, Scott Hartman made a 911 call. 416 00:25:25,275 --> 00:25:27,206 He told the operator that he had just 417 00:25:27,310 --> 00:25:30,758 arrived home and that his mother was in distress. 418 00:25:30,862 --> 00:25:32,448 [operator speaking] 419 00:25:32,551 --> 00:25:34,793 [Scott speaking] 420 00:25:50,482 --> 00:25:54,034 When the paramedics arrived, they took Cheri to the hospital. 421 00:25:54,137 --> 00:25:56,827 They were still working on her, trying 422 00:25:56,931 --> 00:25:59,758 to resuscitate her on the way there. 423 00:26:01,137 --> 00:26:04,482 When they arrived, the emergency room physician 424 00:26:04,586 --> 00:26:05,896 pronounced her deceased. 425 00:26:08,758 --> 00:26:12,275 The coroner was of the opinion that her cause of death 426 00:26:12,379 --> 00:26:15,241 was respiratory failure, and it was attributed 427 00:26:15,344 --> 00:26:16,655 to her cancer condition. 428 00:26:20,448 --> 00:26:23,793 CAROLYN: The morning after, I woke up, Brian was up 429 00:26:23,896 --> 00:26:26,206 and crying, and dad tells me, "Hey, 430 00:26:26,310 --> 00:26:29,965 your grandma is dead." And I just felt numb. 431 00:26:33,413 --> 00:26:36,275 BAUMGARTNER: Scott was calling me, and when he told me... 432 00:26:43,793 --> 00:26:45,517 [sniffles] Just a minute. 433 00:26:47,758 --> 00:26:48,896 I... 434 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,965 I couldn't believe what he was telling me, 435 00:26:51,068 --> 00:26:53,068 because I had just talked to her a week earlier. 436 00:26:55,965 --> 00:26:57,551 I said, "How's your dad doing?" 437 00:26:58,655 --> 00:27:03,931 He told me that his dad took off, and I don't... 438 00:27:05,206 --> 00:27:07,965 I'm -- I'm -- I was so shocked at the moment, 439 00:27:08,068 --> 00:27:09,689 and it's just like... 440 00:27:09,793 --> 00:27:13,482 there were just things that were not -- wasn't adding up. 441 00:27:14,862 --> 00:27:18,068 Scott said that Brian had left 442 00:27:18,172 --> 00:27:22,620 and told Scott, "Here's my checkbook, 443 00:27:22,724 --> 00:27:25,172 plan your mother's funeral," and he would be back. 444 00:27:26,862 --> 00:27:28,793 We knew there -- there's no way. 445 00:27:28,896 --> 00:27:31,551 No way. Brian was not going to leave 446 00:27:31,655 --> 00:27:33,931 at the time his wife passed. 447 00:27:40,965 --> 00:27:45,103 Scott had planned the funeral for Cheri -- at the time, 448 00:27:45,206 --> 00:27:48,448 we found out Cheri was cremated, and we were shocked, 449 00:27:48,551 --> 00:27:52,551 because our family just doesn't do any type of cremation. 450 00:27:54,793 --> 00:27:57,689 Scott and the kids didn't show up to 451 00:27:57,793 --> 00:28:00,862 the funeral, and Brian didn't show up to the funeral. 452 00:28:00,965 --> 00:28:03,206 Everybody kind of wondered what was going on. 453 00:28:06,896 --> 00:28:09,551 [operator speaking] 454 00:28:09,655 --> 00:28:12,275 [girl speaking] 455 00:28:12,379 --> 00:28:14,793 DALY: On February 20th, the day of Cheri's funeral, 456 00:28:14,896 --> 00:28:18,965 at about 2:17 p.m., a neighbor 457 00:28:19,068 --> 00:28:21,931 of Brian and Cheri Hartman 458 00:28:22,034 --> 00:28:24,931 reported that Scott Hartman 459 00:28:25,034 --> 00:28:27,275 was trying to break into their house. 460 00:28:27,379 --> 00:28:29,275 [woman speaking] 461 00:28:29,379 --> 00:28:30,931 [girl speaking] 462 00:28:33,206 --> 00:28:34,896 They suspected he was there trying 463 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,965 to obtain some medicines from their father. 464 00:28:41,068 --> 00:28:43,103 NARRATOR: Scott flees the scene in his vehicle, 465 00:28:43,206 --> 00:28:45,206 but officers quickly track him down. 466 00:28:46,517 --> 00:28:50,344 DALY: Scott was arrested on a road just beyond the house 467 00:28:50,448 --> 00:28:51,896 and transported to 468 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,482 the Randolph County jail, where he was booked in 469 00:28:54,586 --> 00:28:56,413 on a burglary charge. 470 00:28:56,517 --> 00:28:58,724 [woman speaking] 471 00:28:58,827 --> 00:29:00,275 [Scott speaking] 472 00:29:02,689 --> 00:29:04,310 NARRATOR: News of Scott's arrest 473 00:29:04,413 --> 00:29:06,689 reaches the family at Cheri's funeral. 474 00:29:06,793 --> 00:29:09,586 Finding out that he's not there, 475 00:29:09,689 --> 00:29:12,172 and he was so worried about drugs that that was more 476 00:29:12,275 --> 00:29:13,931 important to him, 477 00:29:14,034 --> 00:29:16,206 it -- shock. 478 00:29:16,310 --> 00:29:19,000 It just -- shock. I don't have any other words. 479 00:29:21,793 --> 00:29:25,000 [phone ringing] 480 00:29:25,103 --> 00:29:27,172 BAUMGARTNER: Later that night, 481 00:29:27,275 --> 00:29:30,758 I got a call from Scott from the jail, 482 00:29:30,862 --> 00:29:35,586 and he didn't even ask about his kids or anything. 483 00:29:35,689 --> 00:29:38,448 The first thing he told me or asked me, he says, "Barb, 484 00:29:38,551 --> 00:29:40,793 "he says, I need you to go to the house, 485 00:29:40,896 --> 00:29:45,206 and I need you to get dad's checkbook and bail me out." 486 00:29:46,344 --> 00:29:48,482 I said, "I am not gonna come bail you out." 487 00:29:48,586 --> 00:29:51,448 I said, "When your dad comes home," I said, 488 00:29:51,551 --> 00:29:54,896 "Your dad can do that if he wants to do that." 489 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,172 And he was getting pretty agitated with me, 490 00:29:58,275 --> 00:30:01,586 and he said, "Barb, you don't get it." 491 00:30:01,689 --> 00:30:04,655 He said, "Dad's not coming home." 492 00:30:06,310 --> 00:30:09,586 And all of a sudden, you know, I'm thinking something's wrong. 493 00:30:11,620 --> 00:30:14,000 NARRATOR: As Barbara files a missing persons report 494 00:30:14,103 --> 00:30:15,413 for her brother, Brian, 495 00:30:15,517 --> 00:30:18,310 Randolph County Detective Doug Fritz questions 496 00:30:18,413 --> 00:30:20,310 Scott about his dad's whereabouts. 497 00:30:21,586 --> 00:30:23,724 PULLINS: Scott appeared to be under the influence, 498 00:30:23,827 --> 00:30:25,827 which I believe when he was arrested, 499 00:30:25,931 --> 00:30:29,241 he had admitted that he had taken a lot of pain pills. 500 00:30:30,310 --> 00:30:33,413 [Fritz speaking] 501 00:30:37,413 --> 00:30:38,793 [Scott speaking] 502 00:30:38,896 --> 00:30:40,517 [Fritz speaking] 503 00:30:43,206 --> 00:30:45,310 When Detective Fritz interviewed Scott, 504 00:30:45,413 --> 00:30:47,172 he initially -- he was just trying 505 00:30:47,275 --> 00:30:49,034 to find out if Scott knew the whereabouts 506 00:30:49,137 --> 00:30:50,793 of his father 507 00:30:50,896 --> 00:30:54,724 or the circumstances in which he had left his property. 508 00:30:56,689 --> 00:30:59,206 NARRATOR: The detective also quizzes Scott about something 509 00:30:59,310 --> 00:31:02,137 he told jail officers on the day of his arrest. 510 00:31:04,379 --> 00:31:05,379 [Fritz speaking] 511 00:31:20,551 --> 00:31:22,448 [Scott speaking] 512 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,068 [Fritz speaking] 513 00:31:30,172 --> 00:31:33,586 DALY: When Detective Fritz confronted him with 514 00:31:33,689 --> 00:31:35,482 that inconsistency, 515 00:31:35,586 --> 00:31:37,655 Scott really didn't have a good explanation 516 00:31:37,758 --> 00:31:39,275 for why he had said that. 517 00:31:41,482 --> 00:31:44,482 NARRATOR: Police obtain a search warrant for the Hartman home. 518 00:31:45,896 --> 00:31:49,103 PULLINS: We responded to the location, 519 00:31:49,206 --> 00:31:51,103 and in the bedroom, 520 00:31:53,034 --> 00:31:57,931 we were noticing a lot of blood spatter on the walls. 521 00:31:58,034 --> 00:32:00,827 The mattress had a lot of blood in it. 522 00:32:03,620 --> 00:32:07,724 There appeared to be bloodstains and what they call drag marks 523 00:32:07,827 --> 00:32:12,310 in the hallway from the bedroom out into the garage. 524 00:32:14,310 --> 00:32:15,689 PULLINS: We found that that trail of 525 00:32:15,793 --> 00:32:17,931 blood somewhat stopped in the garage. 526 00:32:18,034 --> 00:32:21,206 So we started focusing a search in the garage area 527 00:32:21,310 --> 00:32:23,241 and came across a -- 528 00:32:23,344 --> 00:32:27,758 a black plastic -- like a tool box that would be 529 00:32:27,862 --> 00:32:28,896 in the bed of a pickup truck. 530 00:32:31,068 --> 00:32:35,034 When we opened the black tool box, 531 00:32:35,137 --> 00:32:38,965 we originally saw some tarps that appeared to be wrapped up. 532 00:32:39,068 --> 00:32:41,379 We began moving the tarps. 533 00:32:43,827 --> 00:32:45,344 And... 534 00:32:45,448 --> 00:32:47,448 you could see what appeared to be someone's head. 535 00:32:49,517 --> 00:32:53,724 There was obvious damage to his head that we believed was 536 00:32:53,827 --> 00:32:54,965 a gunshot wound, 537 00:32:55,068 --> 00:32:58,344 but we felt that it was Brian that was in the box. 538 00:33:03,137 --> 00:33:05,034 NARRATOR: Brian's family hear about the police 539 00:33:05,137 --> 00:33:07,103 search and rush to the scene. 540 00:33:09,103 --> 00:33:12,172 COUGILL: When we pulled up to Brian's house, 541 00:33:16,103 --> 00:33:16,793 an officer said that they had found a body. 542 00:33:19,344 --> 00:33:20,620 We knew they had found Brian. 543 00:33:23,931 --> 00:33:27,310 And I remember looking at the house, and I just saw evil. 544 00:33:27,413 --> 00:33:29,551 I knew something evil had happened in that home. 545 00:33:29,655 --> 00:33:30,827 I just didn't know what it was. 546 00:33:50,620 --> 00:33:52,275 NARRATOR: When Scott Hartman is told that 547 00:33:52,379 --> 00:33:55,000 a search has been conducted at his family property, 548 00:33:55,103 --> 00:33:56,724 he decides to come clean. 549 00:33:58,448 --> 00:34:01,689 [Scott speaking] 550 00:34:27,688 --> 00:34:30,241 Scott told us that his family 551 00:34:30,344 --> 00:34:34,757 had formed somewhat of a suicide pact. 552 00:34:34,862 --> 00:34:38,172 He also said that Brian had agreed with 553 00:34:38,275 --> 00:34:41,206 the suicide pact, but Brian wanted to go before 554 00:34:41,310 --> 00:34:42,688 Cheri, because 555 00:34:42,793 --> 00:34:45,827 he would not be able to stand seeing Cheri deceased. 556 00:34:55,896 --> 00:34:57,655 PULLINS: Scott told me that on the morning of 557 00:34:57,758 --> 00:35:01,965 February 12th, he started to medicate his mother. 558 00:35:49,482 --> 00:35:51,965 He was trying to convince the detectives that he was 559 00:35:52,068 --> 00:35:55,103 a reluctant participant in their plan and that 560 00:35:55,206 --> 00:36:00,172 he was almost doing his mom a favor, or it was at her 561 00:36:00,275 --> 00:36:02,758 coercion that he killed his father. 562 00:36:04,103 --> 00:36:05,551 [detective speaking] 563 00:36:12,172 --> 00:36:14,448 -[Scott speaking] -[detective speaking] 564 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,241 [Scott speaking] 565 00:36:19,620 --> 00:36:22,172 To shoot a parent and then have no feelings 566 00:36:22,275 --> 00:36:26,310 whatsoever when you're talking about it in an interview, 567 00:36:26,413 --> 00:36:27,551 the only thing I can say is 568 00:36:27,655 --> 00:36:29,862 addiction has totally taken over his life. 569 00:36:29,965 --> 00:36:33,137 -[detective speaking] -[Scott speaking] 570 00:36:44,448 --> 00:36:46,137 DALY: It's like some sort of a mitigation, 571 00:36:46,241 --> 00:36:50,482 like he's helping his dad out by cleaning things up 572 00:36:50,586 --> 00:36:51,896 and getting rid of things, 573 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,586 and he's being a good son, doing what his dad wanted him to do. 574 00:36:56,655 --> 00:36:58,241 Brian's autopsy showed 575 00:37:00,206 --> 00:37:01,896 that he was shot in the back 576 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,379 of the head with a 12-gauge shotgun, 577 00:37:05,482 --> 00:37:06,896 and that was the cause of death. 578 00:37:07,896 --> 00:37:10,965 And in Scott's house, we located 579 00:37:11,068 --> 00:37:15,068 the 12-gauge shotgun, and in a corner, 580 00:37:15,172 --> 00:37:18,206 um, that had the spent casing still inside the shotgun. 581 00:37:21,103 --> 00:37:22,862 Um, in regards to Cheri's death, 582 00:37:24,275 --> 00:37:28,620 after the coroner had released Cheri's body back to Scott, 583 00:37:28,724 --> 00:37:31,241 he had her cremated. 584 00:37:31,344 --> 00:37:33,034 This prevented us from 585 00:37:34,344 --> 00:37:36,689 doing any autopsy or anything that might 586 00:37:36,793 --> 00:37:39,034 have revealed a different cause of death. 587 00:37:40,758 --> 00:37:43,275 DALY: When I heard that initial story by Scott 588 00:37:43,379 --> 00:37:47,034 that this was a plan that had been concocted, 589 00:37:47,137 --> 00:37:49,379 I didn't believe it -- it did not make sense. 590 00:37:50,724 --> 00:37:54,310 Cheri's physical condition was not nearly 591 00:37:54,413 --> 00:37:57,931 as bad as what Scott had said it was. 592 00:37:58,034 --> 00:38:03,137 In fact, the friends and family of Cheri had 593 00:38:03,241 --> 00:38:06,448 described her as being in remission 594 00:38:06,551 --> 00:38:09,275 and that she was generally a happy person, 595 00:38:09,379 --> 00:38:10,758 not at all suicidal. 596 00:38:12,448 --> 00:38:14,965 NARRATOR: Detectives dig deeper for a motive. 597 00:38:16,206 --> 00:38:18,793 PULLINS: And we found that Scott had wrote himself 598 00:38:18,896 --> 00:38:23,655 a check for the amount of $2,000 from his dad's account. 599 00:38:23,758 --> 00:38:30,137 He still had his dad's wallet and debit card, and he was also 600 00:38:30,241 --> 00:38:32,724 filling prescriptions of his mother's 601 00:38:32,827 --> 00:38:36,413 after she had passed -- all of that in conjunction led 602 00:38:36,517 --> 00:38:40,000 me to my eventual thoughts of 603 00:38:40,103 --> 00:38:43,379 he was killing his parents to feed his addiction habit 604 00:38:43,482 --> 00:38:44,689 in any way that he could. 605 00:38:48,517 --> 00:38:50,793 DALY: Scott Hartman's double murder trial 606 00:38:50,896 --> 00:38:53,551 began on October the 7th, 2013, 607 00:38:53,655 --> 00:38:56,034 in Randolph County, Winchester, Indiana. 608 00:38:58,068 --> 00:39:00,724 NARRATOR: Prosecutor Daly maps out what happened at 609 00:39:00,827 --> 00:39:04,379 the Hartman home on February 12th, 2010. 610 00:39:05,862 --> 00:39:09,310 DALY: What I presented to the jury is that 611 00:39:09,413 --> 00:39:12,137 Scott walked in while his dad was asleep, 612 00:39:13,482 --> 00:39:14,793 put the shotgun up to the back 613 00:39:14,896 --> 00:39:16,620 of his head, and pulled the trigger. 614 00:39:16,724 --> 00:39:18,689 [gunshot blasts] 615 00:39:18,793 --> 00:39:22,172 Now, Scott may have already over medicated his mother, 616 00:39:22,275 --> 00:39:24,586 and it's possible Brian didn't know that. 617 00:39:24,689 --> 00:39:28,482 It's even possible he could have asphyxiated her. 618 00:39:28,586 --> 00:39:30,482 [sirens wailing] 619 00:39:30,586 --> 00:39:35,551 When the paramedics arrived to take Cheri to the hospital, 620 00:39:35,655 --> 00:39:38,896 Brian was probably already dead in the back bedroom. 621 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:44,034 While Cheri was on her way to the hospital, 622 00:39:44,137 --> 00:39:48,379 Scott was probably cleaning things up, 623 00:39:48,482 --> 00:39:51,586 dragging his dad's body from the bed 624 00:39:51,689 --> 00:39:55,172 out into the garage and up into that box. 625 00:39:59,206 --> 00:40:01,931 We did talk about his drug addiction 626 00:40:02,034 --> 00:40:05,172 as a possible reason for why he had 627 00:40:05,275 --> 00:40:08,241 to kill his parents, because they were standing in the way 628 00:40:08,344 --> 00:40:10,655 of him obtaining his drugs. 629 00:40:13,655 --> 00:40:16,172 NARRATOR: Scott Hartman is found guilty of murdering both of 630 00:40:16,275 --> 00:40:17,379 his parents. 631 00:40:17,482 --> 00:40:20,758 The judge sentences him to a total of 120 years. 632 00:40:23,275 --> 00:40:26,724 I remember the judge, when he sentenced Scott, 633 00:40:26,827 --> 00:40:30,275 told him that he was nothing but a cold-blooded murderer. 634 00:40:30,379 --> 00:40:32,517 Um... 635 00:40:32,620 --> 00:40:35,310 and I believe that's what Scott -- Scott was. 636 00:40:35,413 --> 00:40:36,482 He's a cold-blooded murder. 637 00:40:38,931 --> 00:40:41,068 BAUMGARTNER: I would have never in a million years thought 638 00:40:41,172 --> 00:40:43,586 that he would have ever done anything like this. 639 00:40:44,655 --> 00:40:48,655 He's where he should be, because he's a danger to society. 640 00:40:50,172 --> 00:40:52,793 BRIAN: He just messed up his mind on 641 00:40:52,896 --> 00:40:54,655 the drugs, and it made him a monster. 642 00:40:57,137 --> 00:40:59,241 CAROLYN: When everything happened, Brian and I lost 643 00:40:59,344 --> 00:41:01,172 everything but each other. 644 00:41:01,275 --> 00:41:04,000 We lost our house that we were growing up in. 645 00:41:05,068 --> 00:41:09,896 I lost the mom in my life and grandpa in my life. 646 00:41:12,034 --> 00:41:13,931 I talk about my grandparents a lot. 647 00:41:15,137 --> 00:41:18,241 Uh, this is -- I take grandma with me, um, 648 00:41:18,344 --> 00:41:20,275 wherever I think she would have liked to have gone. 649 00:41:20,379 --> 00:41:23,275 This has some of her ashes in it from... 650 00:41:23,379 --> 00:41:26,724 yeah, so, uh, I keep a part of her with me. 651 00:41:31,172 --> 00:41:33,655 I would give anything to be able to see them again.