1 00:00:05,639 --> 00:00:07,639 -[Mitchell speaking] -[Ramon speaking] 2 00:00:09,110 --> 00:00:10,709 -[Mitchell speaking] -[Ramon speaking] 3 00:00:10,711 --> 00:00:13,412 -[Mitchell speaking] -[Ramon speaking] 4 00:00:13,414 --> 00:00:15,414 [Ramon] Wow, this is wonderful memories. 5 00:00:16,384 --> 00:00:18,717 Here I am with my three kids. 6 00:00:18,719 --> 00:00:19,985 [woman speaking] 7 00:00:19,987 --> 00:00:22,454 They love the waters, little fishes. 8 00:00:23,724 --> 00:00:25,657 [Cris] Look at that. Clear water. 9 00:00:25,759 --> 00:00:28,560 Like there's no other place I would rather be. 10 00:00:28,629 --> 00:00:30,496 Look at this. 11 00:00:30,498 --> 00:00:33,098 [Mitchell] You know, growing up, it was, it was always the same thing 12 00:00:33,100 --> 00:00:37,202 It was always being together as a family and doing things. 13 00:00:38,839 --> 00:00:40,205 [Cris] It was always a great time 14 00:00:40,207 --> 00:00:41,940 when my parents were togethe 15 00:00:42,042 --> 00:00:44,510 and when, you know, it's all five of us. 16 00:00:44,512 --> 00:00:46,512 It was... it was... it was us five. 17 00:00:47,848 --> 00:00:52,418 It seemed like everything was... was good. 18 00:00:54,221 --> 00:00:56,422 [man speaking in Spanish] 19 00:01:01,729 --> 00:01:03,662 [Mitchell] At no point do you think that 20 00:01:03,764 --> 00:01:05,931 someone who comes to family parties 21 00:01:05,933 --> 00:01:08,400 could actually come up with an idea to kill somebody. 22 00:01:08,402 --> 00:01:10,135 [in Spanish] 23 00:01:14,742 --> 00:01:16,442 I couldn't believe that a human being 24 00:01:16,510 --> 00:01:18,844 would do something like this. 25 00:01:38,966 --> 00:01:42,034 [narrator] It's August 1997 in Puerto Rico. 26 00:01:45,039 --> 00:01:47,206 30-year-old Ramon Sosa 27 00:01:47,208 --> 00:01:49,541 is on vacation with his family. 28 00:01:52,313 --> 00:01:54,947 [Ramon] It was a wonderful vacation 29 00:01:54,949 --> 00:01:57,216 and I think that was our first big vacation 30 00:01:57,218 --> 00:01:59,418 that we took together with the kids. 31 00:02:02,022 --> 00:02:03,956 [narrator] Ramon, his wife Dolores, 32 00:02:03,958 --> 00:02:05,891 and their three children visit the home 33 00:02:05,893 --> 00:02:08,260 of Ramon's cousin, David. 34 00:02:09,363 --> 00:02:11,663 Six-year-old Mitchell and four-year-old Cris 35 00:02:11,732 --> 00:02:14,032 posed for photographs. 36 00:02:14,134 --> 00:02:17,102 -[Cris speaking] -[Dolores speaking] 37 00:02:17,104 --> 00:02:21,106 [narrator] Six-month-old baby Mia sleeps off camera. 38 00:02:21,108 --> 00:02:22,608 [Dolores speaking] 39 00:02:24,211 --> 00:02:25,410 [Mitchell speaking] 40 00:02:26,313 --> 00:02:27,446 [Dolores speaking] 41 00:02:28,716 --> 00:02:29,815 [Ramon] Where you at? 42 00:02:29,817 --> 00:02:31,416 Yeah, it was... 43 00:02:31,418 --> 00:02:34,253 it was a great opportunity for my kids to visit where I was born. 44 00:02:34,321 --> 00:02:37,256 I took them back to where I used to live. 45 00:02:37,357 --> 00:02:39,057 Yes! [exclaims] 46 00:02:41,529 --> 00:02:44,129 I wanted them to see where I grew up. 47 00:02:44,131 --> 00:02:48,333 I wanted to see, for them to see the beach, the river, 48 00:02:48,435 --> 00:02:49,801 the countryside. 49 00:02:49,803 --> 00:02:51,503 [indistinct chatter] 50 00:02:53,340 --> 00:02:54,640 [Ramon speaking] 51 00:02:54,708 --> 00:02:56,542 [Mitchell speaking] 52 00:02:56,610 --> 00:02:57,643 [Ramon speaking] 53 00:02:57,744 --> 00:02:59,344 [Dolores speaking] 54 00:03:01,649 --> 00:03:03,348 [Mitchell] It's up. 55 00:03:03,417 --> 00:03:04,449 [indistinct chatter] 56 00:03:04,551 --> 00:03:06,118 [Ramon speaking] 57 00:03:07,621 --> 00:03:09,955 [Mitchell] You know, growing up in Houston, 58 00:03:10,057 --> 00:03:12,824 I remember thinking how crazy it was 59 00:03:12,826 --> 00:03:15,227 that there were coconut trees in the backyard. 60 00:03:15,229 --> 00:03:17,529 -[Ramon speaking] -[Mitchell speaking] 61 00:03:17,531 --> 00:03:20,299 [Ramon speaking] 62 00:03:20,301 --> 00:03:22,501 [Cris] Going to Puerto Rico for the first time. 63 00:03:22,503 --> 00:03:26,238 That was such an amazing experience being there. 64 00:03:28,809 --> 00:03:32,978 Me and my brother, we were.. we were a Mario and Luigi. 65 00:03:33,013 --> 00:03:35,247 We would just go on these little adventures together. 66 00:03:35,916 --> 00:03:37,716 [Ramon speaking] 67 00:03:40,020 --> 00:03:41,153 Ah! 68 00:03:41,255 --> 00:03:43,055 I took my kids to a nice little island, 69 00:03:43,156 --> 00:03:45,657 that just a very small island 70 00:03:45,726 --> 00:03:48,560 that's just outside of Puerto Rico, it's called Isla Icacos. 71 00:03:50,130 --> 00:03:51,330 My kids, oh, my God. 72 00:03:51,332 --> 00:03:52,898 When I told them they were gonna get on a boat 73 00:03:52,900 --> 00:03:55,634 to go to an island, they just were amazed. 74 00:03:57,538 --> 00:03:58,904 [Ramon speaking] 75 00:03:58,906 --> 00:04:01,707 [Dolores speaking] 76 00:04:01,709 --> 00:04:03,408 [Mitchell] It's almost like a paradise over there. 77 00:04:03,410 --> 00:04:05,944 You know, the water is crystal clear. 78 00:04:06,013 --> 00:04:08,614 The sand on the beach is, you know, white. 79 00:04:08,616 --> 00:04:11,049 The food, the music is just something 80 00:04:11,051 --> 00:04:12,718 I always wanted to be around. 81 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,954 [Mitchell speaking] 82 00:04:17,291 --> 00:04:20,525 So, this is in... in Puerto Rico. 83 00:04:20,527 --> 00:04:22,160 You know, my dad threw me off of his shoulders. 84 00:04:22,262 --> 00:04:23,662 That's one thing I always wanted him to do. 85 00:04:23,731 --> 00:04:25,931 He always likes to play rough with us. 86 00:04:30,404 --> 00:04:32,804 [Ramon] So just relaxing and not even thinking about work 87 00:04:32,806 --> 00:04:35,641 or what you got to do or getting up early 88 00:04:35,742 --> 00:04:39,244 or all that stuff was just put aside for a week or two 89 00:04:39,346 --> 00:04:42,047 and it's just a wonderful, great feeling. 90 00:04:44,118 --> 00:04:45,517 [narrator] Back home in Houston, 91 00:04:45,519 --> 00:04:48,620 Ramon works long hours for a courier company. 92 00:04:50,591 --> 00:04:53,225 It was not easy taking care of a home 93 00:04:53,227 --> 00:04:55,727 financially and... and three kids. 94 00:04:56,930 --> 00:04:59,398 You know, and you have to get up, work 95 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,134 take care of the kids, come home. 96 00:05:02,202 --> 00:05:03,435 Sometimes it gets stressful. 97 00:05:04,705 --> 00:05:06,805 [Mitchell] I don't know how he did it. 98 00:05:06,807 --> 00:05:09,708 I think my dad's been workin the same schedule 99 00:05:09,710 --> 00:05:13,645 since he started, waking up at maybe 2:00 in the morning 100 00:05:13,747 --> 00:05:17,416 and then getting off of work at, you know, around noon. 101 00:05:19,053 --> 00:05:23,155 But it always seemed like he made time to hang out with us. 102 00:05:24,525 --> 00:05:26,124 [David speaking] 103 00:05:30,064 --> 00:05:32,130 [Ramon] This is in Bayamon, Puerto Rico. 104 00:05:32,132 --> 00:05:33,432 My cousin, David's house. 105 00:05:34,234 --> 00:05:37,736 He's showing Mitchell the chickens, 106 00:05:37,805 --> 00:05:42,207 telling them that these are Puerto Rican chickens. 107 00:05:42,209 --> 00:05:43,809 Mitchell, go ahead. 108 00:05:45,813 --> 00:05:47,913 [Mitchell] I was afraid of grabbing 'em myself 109 00:05:47,915 --> 00:05:49,614 because Cris... 110 00:05:49,616 --> 00:05:51,917 Cris actually put his hand in there and they pecked him. 111 00:05:51,919 --> 00:05:53,518 [indistinct chatter] 112 00:05:59,593 --> 00:06:02,828 I was kind of joking with them, you know, so they... 113 00:06:02,830 --> 00:06:05,764 they kind of took it literally, like, "For real, Dad?" 114 00:06:07,201 --> 00:06:10,535 Like, I was, "No, this is not how a chicken looks," 115 00:06:10,637 --> 00:06:13,405 like when I eat it, it don't look like this. 116 00:06:13,407 --> 00:06:15,807 [Ramon] Growing up in Puerto Rico, 117 00:06:15,809 --> 00:06:17,809 that's how it was when I was little. 118 00:06:17,811 --> 00:06:21,813 My grandmother literally would get the chickens 119 00:06:21,815 --> 00:06:24,149 and she would kill them. 120 00:06:24,251 --> 00:06:25,951 And that's what we'd have for dinner. 121 00:06:28,822 --> 00:06:31,757 I was born in San Juan, Puerto Rico 122 00:06:31,825 --> 00:06:34,559 on June 1st, 1967. 123 00:06:36,230 --> 00:06:40,198 My father was a very, very hard worker from the time that I can remember, 124 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:44,469 and he also was a professional wrestler. 125 00:06:44,471 --> 00:06:48,407 And he would take me with hi on the weekends to go to the gym. 126 00:06:48,409 --> 00:06:51,510 But this particular gym was for boxing. 127 00:06:53,347 --> 00:06:57,115 Even though I was maybe about, maybe five, six 128 00:06:57,117 --> 00:06:59,618 I find it fascinating how these guys were trainin 129 00:06:59,620 --> 00:07:01,219 and all they were doing at the time. 130 00:07:01,221 --> 00:07:03,422 There were some world champions 131 00:07:03,424 --> 00:07:05,090 that trained at the gym. 132 00:07:08,462 --> 00:07:12,431 We moved to the United State when I was being around nine or ten. 133 00:07:13,300 --> 00:07:15,000 That's when I really started competing. 134 00:07:16,403 --> 00:07:19,704 And I won several tournament I won junior Olympic champio 135 00:07:19,706 --> 00:07:24,042 there in that area, till the age of 16 or 17, 136 00:07:24,144 --> 00:07:26,211 that's when I competed in the amateur boxing. 137 00:07:26,213 --> 00:07:28,947 I had a lot of fights. I had over 100 amateur fights. 138 00:07:28,949 --> 00:07:30,047 I was doing very well. 139 00:07:32,619 --> 00:07:35,120 And there was one promoter that signed me 140 00:07:35,122 --> 00:07:37,956 to a professional contract in Puerto Rico. 141 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,728 But I was still a kid. I was homesick. 142 00:07:43,730 --> 00:07:46,264 I was not training the way I was supposed to train. 143 00:07:46,333 --> 00:07:48,333 Lost a couple of fights, and, you know, 144 00:07:48,435 --> 00:07:50,735 I lost the love for it. 145 00:07:50,837 --> 00:07:53,905 But I still wanted some kind of involvement with boxing. 146 00:07:55,108 --> 00:07:58,944 [narrator] In 1989, Ramon is living in Los Angeles. 147 00:08:00,347 --> 00:08:03,148 [Ramon] When I met Dolores, I was very young, 148 00:08:03,250 --> 00:08:06,218 was about 22 years old, living in LA. 149 00:08:06,220 --> 00:08:10,422 On my own, working and living the bachelor life 150 00:08:12,125 --> 00:08:15,060 She was maybe 18, 19. 151 00:08:15,128 --> 00:08:17,529 She had just graduated from high school. 152 00:08:17,531 --> 00:08:19,731 I thought she was very attractive. 153 00:08:21,101 --> 00:08:23,902 [narrator] The relationship lasts 12 months. 154 00:08:25,439 --> 00:08:28,507 Dolores discovers that she is pregnant with Mitchel 155 00:08:28,509 --> 00:08:30,509 after the breakup. 156 00:08:30,511 --> 00:08:32,611 [Ramon] I was not there through the whole pregnancy 157 00:08:32,613 --> 00:08:35,814 I have left her basically alone financially, 158 00:08:35,816 --> 00:08:39,918 emotionally, and go through a pregnancy all by herself. 159 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,320 In a way, I was in denial. 160 00:08:44,458 --> 00:08:48,293 But first time I saw my son I was very happy. 161 00:08:48,295 --> 00:08:51,796 It was a very good thing, the most happiest day in my life. 162 00:08:51,798 --> 00:08:56,935 The day we talked, saying sorry for everything that I had done. 163 00:08:57,037 --> 00:08:59,804 I wanted her to come back to Houston with me. 164 00:08:59,806 --> 00:09:02,040 But I think she said something to the effect of, you know, 165 00:09:02,042 --> 00:09:03,742 I'll think about it. 166 00:09:03,810 --> 00:09:05,143 And that gave me hope. 167 00:09:06,213 --> 00:09:08,914 [narrator] In 1991, Dolores decides to move 168 00:09:08,916 --> 00:09:11,950 to Texas to be with Ramon. 169 00:09:12,019 --> 00:09:15,420 She gives birth to Cris two years later. 170 00:09:16,523 --> 00:09:20,058 Baby Mia arrives in March 1997. 171 00:09:20,727 --> 00:09:22,327 [Mia cooing] 172 00:09:26,066 --> 00:09:28,433 [Cris] Oh, my gosh. Look at my sister. 173 00:09:28,535 --> 00:09:29,601 Big old chunk. 174 00:09:31,204 --> 00:09:32,570 Little chunk. 175 00:09:32,572 --> 00:09:35,740 My brother is helping and I'm just in my own little world 176 00:09:35,809 --> 00:09:39,244 trying to find some shells and rocks or something. 177 00:09:45,218 --> 00:09:48,420 [Cris] My mom called me ove and I go right away. 178 00:09:48,422 --> 00:09:51,823 I might be a mama's boy a little bit, some would say. 179 00:09:54,962 --> 00:09:57,462 [Ramon] We were driving down on the way back home. 180 00:09:58,065 --> 00:09:59,965 I can hear live music. 181 00:10:00,033 --> 00:10:02,901 And I said, "Wait a second, man, they having live music over there." 182 00:10:04,938 --> 00:10:07,105 And of course, my aunt, she just... 183 00:10:07,107 --> 00:10:10,041 she loves, you know, to dance and have a good tim 184 00:10:10,077 --> 00:10:13,044 And I just started dancing with her. 185 00:10:13,146 --> 00:10:15,046 [Cris] Look at my pop, breaking it down. 186 00:10:15,148 --> 00:10:18,016 That's it. That's Sosa time right there. 187 00:10:18,018 --> 00:10:20,318 Unh. Ah. 188 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,854 I like how my dad peeks at the camera 189 00:10:22,923 --> 00:10:25,490 just to make sure like you're getting this, right? 190 00:10:25,492 --> 00:10:27,258 You're recording this. 191 00:10:28,428 --> 00:10:31,329 [Ramon] In Puerto Rico, dancing is in our blood. 192 00:10:31,331 --> 00:10:34,532 We love having parties and dancing and having a good time. 193 00:10:36,103 --> 00:10:39,537 [Cris] We're with family, you know, we're dancing with anybody. 194 00:10:39,606 --> 00:10:43,608 We're gonna put on a show. 195 00:10:43,610 --> 00:10:46,745 [Mitchell] You know, family has always been a big thing for us. 196 00:10:46,780 --> 00:10:49,214 There's never a dull moment. 197 00:10:49,216 --> 00:10:50,915 [Ramon speaking] 198 00:10:50,917 --> 00:10:54,119 [Ramon] They just loved the whole Puerto Rico, you know, atmosphere. 199 00:10:55,722 --> 00:10:58,657 So, it was great, great feeling to see my kids happy. 200 00:11:05,532 --> 00:11:08,500 Dolores had the kids at a very, very young age, 201 00:11:09,336 --> 00:11:11,136 still a teenager. 202 00:11:12,606 --> 00:11:14,806 And she never had got to experience 203 00:11:14,808 --> 00:11:17,642 being young lady and having fun 204 00:11:17,744 --> 00:11:20,478 and going out and being with friends 205 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,814 and stuff like that. 206 00:11:22,816 --> 00:11:26,151 Over the years, we started to get a little more difficu 207 00:11:26,252 --> 00:11:30,255 and I believe that I had a lot to do with that too, 208 00:11:30,323 --> 00:11:33,224 because I didn't want her to work. 209 00:11:33,226 --> 00:11:35,827 The thought that our kids are gonna be better taking care of 210 00:11:35,829 --> 00:11:37,729 if she stayed at home. 211 00:11:39,066 --> 00:11:41,599 [Cris] Mom made a, made a big decision 212 00:11:41,601 --> 00:11:43,935 leaving my dad and taking us with her. 213 00:11:46,239 --> 00:11:47,839 [Ramon] I would beg her. 214 00:11:47,841 --> 00:11:50,308 I mean, I'm not gonna lie, I would beg for her to come back home. 215 00:11:50,310 --> 00:11:52,210 I missed my kids so much. 216 00:11:53,380 --> 00:11:55,914 I was very depressed and I didn't know 217 00:11:55,916 --> 00:11:57,615 what the heck the depression was. 218 00:12:00,420 --> 00:12:03,121 So, I just started coaching a lot more 219 00:12:03,123 --> 00:12:05,724 and being involved a lot more with boxing. 220 00:12:07,060 --> 00:12:09,127 [Mitchell] When my parents were split, 221 00:12:09,129 --> 00:12:11,963 uh, every day after school, we'd go to my dad's house 222 00:12:12,065 --> 00:12:14,232 and then we would go to the gym from there. 223 00:12:17,304 --> 00:12:21,206 [Ramon] I started a non-prof called Young Prospects Boxin 224 00:12:21,208 --> 00:12:23,641 I feel good about myself doing something 225 00:12:23,710 --> 00:12:26,344 that was good for the community, good for the kids. 226 00:12:28,949 --> 00:12:31,816 As a coach, you know, you're doing that not just for you, 227 00:12:31,818 --> 00:12:34,119 you're doing it for a kid and you're doing it for their family. 228 00:12:34,121 --> 00:12:37,055 It's just... this is, to me it's a bigger picture 229 00:12:37,157 --> 00:12:38,957 than just worrying about you. 230 00:12:40,527 --> 00:12:42,393 And you just got a little bigger and bigger. 231 00:12:42,395 --> 00:12:44,963 And it was the time where I was training 232 00:12:44,965 --> 00:12:47,232 some good fighters, you know, some former Olympians. 233 00:12:48,502 --> 00:12:49,901 [Noris] Ramon was always involved 234 00:12:49,903 --> 00:12:54,105 with some kind of celebrity or he was meeting somebody. 235 00:12:54,107 --> 00:12:56,040 It was great. He, yes... 236 00:12:56,042 --> 00:12:58,977 He used to come and tell us about it and show us pictures. 237 00:12:58,979 --> 00:13:02,614 "Oh, look who I met" or, "Look at this person." 238 00:13:02,616 --> 00:13:05,049 [Ramon] Being around boxing was great. 239 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,353 Whoo! 240 00:13:08,421 --> 00:13:10,622 I just hated to come home sometimes. 241 00:13:10,624 --> 00:13:11,956 You know, I just hate... hated the fact 242 00:13:12,058 --> 00:13:13,725 that I had to come home to an empty house. 243 00:13:19,633 --> 00:13:23,234 That particular evening, I remember I had a friend. 244 00:13:23,336 --> 00:13:26,938 He told me about this place where they play salsa music 245 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,507 "They have a live band that plays live music there, man. 246 00:13:29,509 --> 00:13:31,275 It's pretty, pretty nice place, man. 247 00:13:31,277 --> 00:13:33,845 It's... Beautiful ladies that hang out over there, man. You should go check it out." 248 00:13:36,950 --> 00:13:38,316 I pulled up to the place. 249 00:13:38,318 --> 00:13:40,151 I had a little fancy sports car, 250 00:13:40,220 --> 00:13:43,454 you know, BMW, had it all cleaned up. 251 00:13:43,523 --> 00:13:45,423 You know, how it is. You're trying to just show off. 252 00:13:46,726 --> 00:13:48,126 They're playing really nice music. 253 00:13:48,128 --> 00:13:50,428 And I said, "Wow, this is nice." 254 00:13:52,098 --> 00:13:55,633 I went to the bar and the next thing I know, 255 00:13:55,735 --> 00:14:00,038 she walks in front of me and steps on my toe. 256 00:14:02,809 --> 00:14:05,310 I was in pain. I was in a lot of pain. 257 00:14:05,312 --> 00:14:06,845 I was like, "What the heck?" 258 00:14:08,582 --> 00:14:11,816 Then I noticed, like, "Wow, beautiful lady." 259 00:14:13,086 --> 00:14:15,553 And all I could say is like, "Would you dance with me?" 260 00:14:15,655 --> 00:14:17,121 And she said, "Okay, yeah." 261 00:14:19,726 --> 00:14:22,227 And we danced. 262 00:14:25,632 --> 00:14:29,200 [narrator] The woman's name is Maria de Lourdes Dorantes 263 00:14:29,202 --> 00:14:31,202 Lulu to her friends. 264 00:14:32,405 --> 00:14:33,871 She was an excellent dancer 265 00:14:34,941 --> 00:14:38,209 And I asked her, "Are you... are you Puerto Rican or Colombian?" 266 00:14:38,945 --> 00:14:40,278 And she said, "Oh, no. 267 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,614 You know, a lot of people think that I am, but I'm Mexican." 268 00:14:42,616 --> 00:14:44,048 I just love to dance salsa. 269 00:14:45,685 --> 00:14:49,187 Once the place closed down, we were able to go outside 270 00:14:49,189 --> 00:14:52,323 and talk for a little bit. 271 00:14:52,325 --> 00:14:56,728 [narrator] Lulu reveals that she lives just outside of Houston. 272 00:14:56,730 --> 00:15:00,932 She is in the United States on a visitor visa. 273 00:15:00,934 --> 00:15:03,801 [Ramon] Lulu explained to m that she had moved to the United States 274 00:15:03,803 --> 00:15:06,638 because she wanted a better life for her kids 275 00:15:06,773 --> 00:15:07,838 and for herself. 276 00:15:09,709 --> 00:15:12,443 And we had a lot in common as far as the kids 277 00:15:12,512 --> 00:15:14,445 and coming back from difficult divorces 278 00:15:14,514 --> 00:15:15,846 and stuff like that. 279 00:15:16,950 --> 00:15:20,218 And the more we talked and dated, the more I guess 280 00:15:20,220 --> 00:15:22,787 you know, we started liking each other. 281 00:15:22,789 --> 00:15:25,123 It was the whirlwind type of relationship. 282 00:15:27,260 --> 00:15:31,663 She was the type of person that gave you massages. 283 00:15:31,731 --> 00:15:34,065 You know, my food on the table. 284 00:15:35,402 --> 00:15:38,002 She was very attentive to me all the time. 285 00:15:40,206 --> 00:15:42,707 [Cris] We were happy that he was happy. 286 00:15:42,709 --> 00:15:44,409 And so, it was kind of something that we had 287 00:15:44,411 --> 00:15:46,644 to like adapt to like, "Okay, well, 288 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,713 this is who's gonna be in the picture." 289 00:15:48,715 --> 00:15:52,250 So, this is who we, you know, have to respect. 290 00:15:54,821 --> 00:15:56,621 [Ramon] It's close to Christmas time 291 00:15:58,258 --> 00:16:02,427 and we have been together for about 15 or 18 months already. 292 00:16:03,930 --> 00:16:08,399 I feel that this is the right time to ask her to marry me. 293 00:16:08,401 --> 00:16:11,736 And when I did, all she did she just started crying 294 00:16:11,805 --> 00:16:14,305 and crying and crying and crying. 295 00:16:14,307 --> 00:16:17,709 And she couldn't believe that I had asked to marry her. 296 00:16:20,213 --> 00:16:21,713 [Cris] I heard about the wedding 297 00:16:21,715 --> 00:16:24,282 the day he got married from my mom. 298 00:16:24,284 --> 00:16:26,718 My mom just dropped the ball on us saying like, 299 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,654 "Hey, your dad got married today." 300 00:16:29,756 --> 00:16:31,956 And we're like, "What?" 301 00:16:33,626 --> 00:16:36,928 [Mitchell] I was dumbfounde and I was like, "Excuse me. What?" 302 00:16:36,930 --> 00:16:39,230 And I was like, "That's really weird 303 00:16:39,232 --> 00:16:41,499 for him to get married and us not know about it." 304 00:16:41,501 --> 00:16:43,034 -Go on. -[Ramon speaking] 305 00:16:45,305 --> 00:16:46,704 [Mitchell] You know, hindsight's 2020, 306 00:16:46,706 --> 00:16:48,139 I should have been picking u on the stuff 307 00:16:48,208 --> 00:16:51,809 and realizing that my dad wasn't interacting with us 308 00:16:51,811 --> 00:16:54,112 the way he used to. 309 00:16:56,383 --> 00:16:59,717 [Ramon] After a week of being marrie 310 00:16:59,719 --> 00:17:02,220 I had talked about going on a honeymoon 311 00:17:03,323 --> 00:17:04,521 and she was like, "No, no, no, no. 312 00:17:04,523 --> 00:17:06,324 She's just not only... we don't need to be spending 313 00:17:06,326 --> 00:17:09,427 any money on a honeymoon, that's just too, too expensive. 314 00:17:09,429 --> 00:17:10,661 I don't want to spend that. 315 00:17:10,763 --> 00:17:12,663 I don't want you to spend that kind of money. 316 00:17:12,765 --> 00:17:17,802 We just spend that money on getting the paperwork started 317 00:17:17,804 --> 00:17:19,804 for my Green Card." 318 00:17:22,042 --> 00:17:25,510 So, I said, you know, that sounded, you know, 319 00:17:25,512 --> 00:17:27,045 right, you know, whatever. 320 00:17:27,146 --> 00:17:30,515 So, we just started looking into the process of her 321 00:17:30,517 --> 00:17:32,150 and her kids getting a Green Card. 322 00:17:34,220 --> 00:17:37,855 In the first few years, what they call the honeymoon years, 323 00:17:37,924 --> 00:17:39,257 we're doing very well. 324 00:17:40,827 --> 00:17:43,127 I feel like, "Wow, man, she is just this great, 325 00:17:43,129 --> 00:17:44,929 great person, great lady, you know." 326 00:17:46,833 --> 00:17:51,936 We had talked about opening up a gym, a business. 327 00:17:51,938 --> 00:17:54,238 She loved training and she loved being around the gyms 328 00:17:54,307 --> 00:17:55,440 and stuff like that. 329 00:17:55,508 --> 00:17:57,041 So, she was all in. 330 00:17:59,746 --> 00:18:02,180 [Cris] So, when my dad opened up his big gym, 331 00:18:02,182 --> 00:18:03,614 his... his main gym, 332 00:18:03,616 --> 00:18:06,017 The Woodlands Boxing and Fitness, 333 00:18:07,053 --> 00:18:09,220 that was a very proud moment for everybody. 334 00:18:13,226 --> 00:18:14,926 [Cris] You know, like he ha a bunch of members, 335 00:18:14,928 --> 00:18:16,160 he has commercials. 336 00:18:16,162 --> 00:18:18,696 He's doing, like, all these different promos. 337 00:18:18,698 --> 00:18:20,965 He has merch, he has t-shirt 338 00:18:21,033 --> 00:18:22,700 boxing gloves and punching bags. 339 00:18:22,702 --> 00:18:25,403 I'm like, "Look at my dad really doing this. 340 00:18:25,405 --> 00:18:27,105 You know, he's really doing it." 341 00:18:31,044 --> 00:18:33,945 [Ramon] The advertising for the gym was all Lulu's idea. 342 00:18:34,046 --> 00:18:36,047 Social media was starting to take off then, 343 00:18:36,149 --> 00:18:38,583 so she thought that was, you know, free advertising. 344 00:18:38,585 --> 00:18:42,353 Welcome to Woodlands Boxing and Fitness. 345 00:18:42,455 --> 00:18:45,323 [Ramon] She had a group of ladies that she trained every day. 346 00:18:46,693 --> 00:18:50,328 They became very, very close friends. 347 00:18:50,330 --> 00:18:53,965 Yeah, she would... She ended up becoming a very good trainer. 348 00:18:55,635 --> 00:18:57,502 With the profits we're getting from the gym, 349 00:18:57,504 --> 00:19:00,238 the first thing we did, we bought motorcycles, 350 00:19:00,339 --> 00:19:02,306 we had cars, we had nice jewelry, 351 00:19:02,308 --> 00:19:06,944 a lot of nice clothes that she was getting. 352 00:19:07,013 --> 00:19:09,447 But I think the house that we bought together 353 00:19:09,549 --> 00:19:12,116 was the nicest thing that we had. 354 00:19:14,120 --> 00:19:17,054 Financially, the gym just took off, 355 00:19:17,156 --> 00:19:20,024 took off, and it was doing very, very well. 356 00:19:20,026 --> 00:19:22,226 I mean, Woodlands Boxing and Fitness 357 00:19:22,228 --> 00:19:23,961 was a very profitable gym. 358 00:19:24,531 --> 00:19:26,063 [all speaking] 359 00:19:27,500 --> 00:19:30,334 And I felt that nothing could go wrong. 360 00:19:36,442 --> 00:19:39,710 [Noris] Well, the day that my son got married, 361 00:19:39,712 --> 00:19:42,914 we invited Ramon and Lulu, 362 00:19:42,916 --> 00:19:46,517 and she brought her children and she brought her mother. 363 00:19:46,519 --> 00:19:50,521 And, um, it was a very, very exciting day. 364 00:19:52,759 --> 00:19:56,561 We danced and we played and we cried. And we just.. 365 00:19:56,662 --> 00:19:59,230 We had an excellent time as a family. 366 00:20:01,501 --> 00:20:04,936 She loved to dance, and my brother did too. 367 00:20:05,037 --> 00:20:08,806 So, um, Ramon and her, I saw them dancing 368 00:20:08,808 --> 00:20:12,410 and it seemed like it was, everything was, um... 369 00:20:12,412 --> 00:20:13,811 was good. 370 00:20:15,515 --> 00:20:19,150 [Ramon] That day I was holdi a lot of issues, 371 00:20:19,218 --> 00:20:20,651 problems inside of me. 372 00:20:22,622 --> 00:20:24,522 You know, you acting like everything's good 373 00:20:24,524 --> 00:20:26,757 and, you know, you're laughi with my family 374 00:20:26,826 --> 00:20:29,927 and taking pictures and this and that. 375 00:20:29,929 --> 00:20:31,462 But in reality, you know, 376 00:20:31,497 --> 00:20:34,699 we're having a lot of issues ourselves at home. 377 00:20:36,936 --> 00:20:40,705 It bothered her a lot that I was spending money 378 00:20:40,707 --> 00:20:43,841 on my son's education out of all things. 379 00:20:43,910 --> 00:20:45,176 And... 380 00:20:45,178 --> 00:20:46,611 and she would always throw i in my face that, 381 00:20:46,613 --> 00:20:48,346 well, you don't spend that kind of money 382 00:20:48,414 --> 00:20:51,115 or time with my kids. 383 00:20:52,385 --> 00:20:55,853 [Mitchell] After Lulu and my dad got married, the. 384 00:20:55,922 --> 00:20:59,323 the interest that she had shown 385 00:20:59,325 --> 00:21:03,027 when we met initially, she was not there. 386 00:21:04,931 --> 00:21:07,498 She just didn't want to be in the same room as us. 387 00:21:09,402 --> 00:21:11,335 [Ramon] After our third year 388 00:21:11,404 --> 00:21:12,803 she became an American citizen. 389 00:21:14,641 --> 00:21:17,308 I remember a little disagreement that we had, 390 00:21:17,310 --> 00:21:18,509 and she threw it in my face 391 00:21:18,511 --> 00:21:21,412 She said, look, you know, I'm an American now. 392 00:21:21,414 --> 00:21:24,515 I have all the rights in this country just like you do. 393 00:21:26,319 --> 00:21:28,853 [Cris] We were kind of thinking lik 394 00:21:28,921 --> 00:21:31,822 was this the reason that the marriage happened? 395 00:21:31,824 --> 00:21:34,558 Was she just trying to get a Green Card 396 00:21:34,627 --> 00:21:36,594 and become a US citizen? 397 00:21:36,596 --> 00:21:38,062 And is she using my dad? 398 00:21:40,033 --> 00:21:44,335 [Ramon] Now, at this point, we have a big two-storey hom 399 00:21:44,404 --> 00:21:47,705 She's living upstairs with her mother and two kids 400 00:21:47,707 --> 00:21:51,108 And I'm living downstairs by myself. 401 00:21:51,110 --> 00:21:53,678 And when I talk about tension in the house, 402 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,714 it was like oil and water, we could not mix. 403 00:21:58,418 --> 00:22:00,217 I didn't talk to her, she didn't talk to me. 404 00:22:00,219 --> 00:22:03,154 And we were at the point where there was no return. 405 00:22:04,757 --> 00:22:07,725 Lulu actually served me with papers for the divorce. 406 00:22:09,729 --> 00:22:13,931 It was just so horrible, uh, situation how we were living. 407 00:22:18,137 --> 00:22:21,038 I met Mundo back in the year around 2000 or s 408 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:25,309 and that's when I had the non-profit boxing gym. 409 00:22:27,213 --> 00:22:30,281 Mundo had a rough upbringing 410 00:22:30,283 --> 00:22:33,984 He ended up joining a local gang. 411 00:22:33,986 --> 00:22:38,622 That life got him in trouble and he eventually ended up in prison. 412 00:22:40,159 --> 00:22:45,529 [Cris] He was going through a hard time and boxing was his therapy. 413 00:22:45,531 --> 00:22:48,833 My dad changed Mundo's life by keeping him out of trouble 414 00:22:48,934 --> 00:22:50,334 and keeping him in the gym. 415 00:22:52,939 --> 00:22:56,307 [Ramon] Fast forward about 15 years later, 416 00:22:56,309 --> 00:22:58,609 a lot of Saturdays he would open the gym 417 00:22:58,611 --> 00:22:59,910 so I can have a break. 418 00:23:01,414 --> 00:23:04,048 And one day I remember I was driving... 419 00:23:05,051 --> 00:23:09,153 and Mundo calls me and he tells me, 420 00:23:09,255 --> 00:23:12,022 hey... hey, he keeps coming, "Pops, hey pops. 421 00:23:12,024 --> 00:23:16,127 I think, uh, Lulu... Lulu, she wants to kill you." 422 00:23:18,264 --> 00:23:21,732 I said, "Quit playing around this is not a joke, man. Quit... quit messing around. 423 00:23:21,801 --> 00:23:24,602 He goes, "I seen that look. 424 00:23:24,604 --> 00:23:26,704 I seen that look when people want to kill somebody, 425 00:23:26,706 --> 00:23:28,038 she wants to kill you." 426 00:23:33,413 --> 00:23:35,846 He told me that on this particular evening.. 427 00:23:37,216 --> 00:23:40,918 he just happened to walk by Lulu 428 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,754 and she was talking to somebody 429 00:23:43,823 --> 00:23:46,257 and he just overheard them talking about somebody 430 00:23:46,358 --> 00:23:49,860 in Mexico that cuts up people and chops up people 431 00:23:49,962 --> 00:23:52,930 and kills people or whatever for money. 432 00:23:52,932 --> 00:23:58,202 And Lulu answered by, "Hmm, maybe we could use him." 433 00:23:59,806 --> 00:24:02,706 And then later that evening as the gym was about to clos 434 00:24:02,708 --> 00:24:05,142 there was, you know, only a few people there, 435 00:24:06,512 --> 00:24:08,245 Mundo walked up to Lulu by herself 436 00:24:08,314 --> 00:24:11,248 and kind of sparked up the conversation again, 437 00:24:11,317 --> 00:24:14,051 asking her, "Hey, that conversation you were having earlier, 438 00:24:14,821 --> 00:24:16,554 was that about Ramon?" 439 00:24:16,655 --> 00:24:18,622 And she said, "Yeah, you know, I'm just tired of him. 440 00:24:18,624 --> 00:24:20,224 I wish they would just take him away. 441 00:24:20,226 --> 00:24:22,326 I wish he would just go away, I can't stand him anymore." 442 00:24:23,863 --> 00:24:27,965 And Mundo said, "Are you talking about going away?" 443 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,334 And he made the pistol sign with his hand 444 00:24:30,403 --> 00:24:31,936 like, going away like this? 445 00:24:33,306 --> 00:24:36,340 And she said, yeah, going away like that. 446 00:24:38,110 --> 00:24:39,710 And that's where it all started. 447 00:24:41,380 --> 00:24:44,815 When Mundo told me about that conversation, 448 00:24:44,817 --> 00:24:47,017 I was like, "Dang, you know, what I do? 449 00:24:47,019 --> 00:24:48,786 I mean, what's... what's, you know, what's the deal?" 450 00:24:48,788 --> 00:24:50,420 I mean, I was... I don't know. 451 00:24:50,423 --> 00:24:53,524 You know, I was so upset. Do I go to the police? Do I do... What do I do? 452 00:24:53,526 --> 00:24:54,959 And he said not to worry about it. 453 00:24:54,961 --> 00:24:57,061 I told that I was gonna meet up with her 454 00:24:57,063 --> 00:24:59,830 and see how far she's willing to go with this. 455 00:25:04,437 --> 00:25:07,304 The next meeting that Lulu had with Mundo, 456 00:25:08,641 --> 00:25:11,642 Mundo started recording their conversation 457 00:25:11,744 --> 00:25:14,812 in a cell phone he had in his pocket. 458 00:25:14,814 --> 00:25:18,616 He told her, "I got the people that can do the job." 459 00:25:52,418 --> 00:25:54,051 This is the person that at one time 460 00:25:54,053 --> 00:25:57,922 we were so in love and were expected to live 461 00:25:57,924 --> 00:26:00,057 our rest of our lives together. 462 00:26:01,127 --> 00:26:03,627 And now I'm here listening to her telling Mundo 463 00:26:03,629 --> 00:26:07,164 how she wanted to keep the business, the house, everything. 464 00:26:08,501 --> 00:26:09,800 She wanted me gone. 465 00:26:11,537 --> 00:26:12,836 She wanted me dead. 466 00:26:19,845 --> 00:26:23,213 [Mike] My sergeant at the ti called me at home, 467 00:26:23,215 --> 00:26:26,350 it was a Sunday, and expressed that 468 00:26:26,419 --> 00:26:30,220 he had two individuals at our office 469 00:26:30,222 --> 00:26:34,425 that were describing a plot for a murder. 470 00:26:39,065 --> 00:26:40,531 [bleep] 471 00:26:46,205 --> 00:26:50,407 [Mike] I asked Mundo, what was it about him 472 00:26:50,409 --> 00:26:52,242 that would make Maria believe 473 00:26:52,311 --> 00:26:54,945 that he did have the connections 474 00:26:55,047 --> 00:26:56,413 to facilitate such a crime? 475 00:27:10,096 --> 00:27:12,129 [Mike] I've never really had a lot of individuals 476 00:27:12,131 --> 00:27:13,831 that were reporting a crime 477 00:27:13,833 --> 00:27:16,700 also provide evidence of the investigation 478 00:27:16,702 --> 00:27:18,602 that they had been conducting. 479 00:27:27,947 --> 00:27:29,947 [Mike] Based on what I have heard 480 00:27:29,949 --> 00:27:33,651 and based on what I have see 481 00:27:33,752 --> 00:27:37,054 this case definitely warrant an investigation. 482 00:27:40,326 --> 00:27:42,826 [Kelly] The difference betwe actually committing the crim 483 00:27:42,828 --> 00:27:46,163 and just talking about, um, committing the crime 484 00:27:46,232 --> 00:27:47,898 is the intent. 485 00:27:47,900 --> 00:27:50,200 You don't want to arrest and charge someone 486 00:27:50,202 --> 00:27:51,502 with solicitation of capital murder 487 00:27:51,504 --> 00:27:54,038 if they're not intending to carry it out. 488 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:55,806 If they're just angry, if they're just venting. 489 00:27:58,110 --> 00:28:01,345 So, the plan was to try to introduce 490 00:28:01,414 --> 00:28:04,715 an undercover officer acting as a hitman 491 00:28:04,717 --> 00:28:07,351 that could record evidence of her actually trying 492 00:28:07,420 --> 00:28:11,121 to solicit someone to kill Ramon. 493 00:28:30,342 --> 00:28:33,310 [Mike] During the first mee with Maria, the undercover 494 00:28:33,312 --> 00:28:37,114 obviously asked what it is that she wanted done. 495 00:28:59,805 --> 00:29:01,839 [Mike] She knew what she wanted done 496 00:29:01,907 --> 00:29:05,109 and she had no problem asking for it. 497 00:29:06,645 --> 00:29:09,446 Lulu during the first meetin explains that they are goin 498 00:29:09,515 --> 00:29:10,814 through a divorce proceeding 499 00:29:10,816 --> 00:29:14,451 There is a court date in a couple of days 500 00:29:14,553 --> 00:29:19,156 so that it was a very big concern of hers 501 00:29:19,225 --> 00:29:22,626 that this killing be conducted very quickly. 502 00:29:37,309 --> 00:29:40,410 [Kelly] There was a large business that she was involved in 503 00:29:40,412 --> 00:29:43,347 and they had a nice home together. 504 00:29:43,415 --> 00:29:46,617 If he's dead before they're divorced, 505 00:29:46,619 --> 00:29:48,819 she gets all of it. 506 00:29:48,821 --> 00:29:51,955 [Mike] 50% wasn't quite good enough for her. 507 00:29:51,957 --> 00:29:53,123 She wanted it all. 508 00:29:54,727 --> 00:29:58,095 She also went to an ATM that night 509 00:29:58,097 --> 00:30:00,364 and pulled out $500 510 00:30:00,465 --> 00:30:02,933 as a down payment for the hitman. 511 00:30:06,405 --> 00:30:08,138 As soon as she did that, 512 00:30:08,207 --> 00:30:10,240 we could have arrested her that night 513 00:30:10,309 --> 00:30:12,109 if we would have wanted to. 514 00:30:12,111 --> 00:30:14,378 Maria had already made the solicitation, 515 00:30:14,380 --> 00:30:15,546 she made the payment. 516 00:30:17,049 --> 00:30:19,416 But I needed to get the evidence to make sure 517 00:30:19,418 --> 00:30:21,118 that we got a justice senten 518 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,720 and that she was gonna go to prison for a long time. 519 00:30:25,224 --> 00:30:28,625 I wanted video of her looking at his dead body 520 00:30:28,627 --> 00:30:30,227 because I wanted a judge or a jury 521 00:30:30,229 --> 00:30:32,830 to be able to see her reaction. 522 00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:37,034 And so, I wanted to set up and stage his murder. 523 00:30:41,607 --> 00:30:42,706 [siren blaring] 524 00:30:42,708 --> 00:30:44,041 [Ramon] I didn't know what to expect 525 00:30:44,109 --> 00:30:45,742 when I arrived at the police station. 526 00:30:45,844 --> 00:30:49,513 For them to put on my makeup. 527 00:30:49,515 --> 00:30:51,715 To me, it seemed like they didn't know what they were gonna do. 528 00:30:53,319 --> 00:30:54,918 [Jason] We were nervous. We were scared. 529 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,222 We were worried that it wasn't gonna be good enough. 530 00:30:58,224 --> 00:31:02,960 And there was literally someone's life at stake here. 531 00:31:02,962 --> 00:31:06,630 We had no experience in applying the makeup ourselves. 532 00:31:06,632 --> 00:31:11,301 So that's why we resorted to YouTube tutorials. 533 00:31:12,504 --> 00:31:15,105 And we practiced on my partner's hand. 534 00:31:17,109 --> 00:31:20,911 After about an hour, maybe an hour and a half, 535 00:31:20,913 --> 00:31:24,147 we thought we had a realistic gunshot wound. 536 00:31:25,417 --> 00:31:28,118 You know, it was sink or swim. It was time to go. 537 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:29,485 We were running out of time. 538 00:31:30,723 --> 00:31:34,758 [Mike] Lulu was very despera due to the time limit 539 00:31:34,827 --> 00:31:37,728 that she had concerning this court proceeding. 540 00:31:39,231 --> 00:31:42,499 So, it was important for us to find the mob scene 541 00:31:42,501 --> 00:31:45,035 for the murder as soon as possible. 542 00:31:46,639 --> 00:31:49,806 Luckily for us, the county actually owned 543 00:31:49,808 --> 00:31:52,109 a small field that we could use 544 00:31:52,111 --> 00:31:53,210 to dig a hole. 545 00:31:57,383 --> 00:31:58,582 [Ramon] Unreal. 546 00:31:58,584 --> 00:32:01,418 I just cannot believe what I was going through. 547 00:32:01,420 --> 00:32:05,222 And on the drive up there, I'd remember thinking of all my kids, 548 00:32:05,224 --> 00:32:07,024 my parents, my family, 549 00:32:07,026 --> 00:32:09,626 because I knew they were gonna see this picture sooner or later. 550 00:32:11,864 --> 00:32:13,931 [Mike] We had him remove all of his clothing 551 00:32:13,933 --> 00:32:16,333 except for his boxers. 552 00:32:16,435 --> 00:32:19,603 Put his hands behind his back as though his hands were bound. 553 00:32:19,605 --> 00:32:23,206 Keep him consistent with being kidnapped, 554 00:32:23,208 --> 00:32:25,309 executed and buried. 555 00:32:27,646 --> 00:32:29,680 [Ramon] Taught me how to pos 556 00:32:29,682 --> 00:32:32,316 They threw some dirt on me on top of me. 557 00:32:32,318 --> 00:32:35,953 And here I was, laying on my grave. 558 00:32:38,624 --> 00:32:40,057 [Mike] At this point of the investigation, 559 00:32:40,059 --> 00:32:43,160 Ramon is supposed to be deceased, 560 00:32:43,261 --> 00:32:45,629 so it was important that we remove 561 00:32:45,631 --> 00:32:48,298 all electronic communication devices from him 562 00:32:48,300 --> 00:32:50,000 and place it in the safe house. 563 00:32:52,037 --> 00:32:54,438 [Ramon] I was very, very worried in that room. 564 00:32:54,506 --> 00:32:58,041 I mean, I hardly slept. 565 00:32:58,110 --> 00:33:02,446 My mother and father, I spoke with them just about every day. 566 00:33:02,514 --> 00:33:06,650 It was gonna be very difficult because I always answered their calls. 567 00:33:13,359 --> 00:33:14,891 [Jason] Leading up to the meeting 568 00:33:14,893 --> 00:33:18,362 between the undercover and Mrs. Sosa, 569 00:33:18,430 --> 00:33:21,932 our... our anxiety was... was pretty high. 570 00:33:21,934 --> 00:33:24,801 Because she had to believe he was dead. 571 00:33:26,505 --> 00:33:30,540 [Mike] So, in order to ensur that we had Maria's reaction 572 00:33:30,642 --> 00:33:32,909 we had multiple audio and video devices 573 00:33:32,911 --> 00:33:34,411 installed in the vehicle. 574 00:33:45,824 --> 00:33:48,325 [Jason] They have an initial exchange. 575 00:33:48,327 --> 00:33:50,827 He proceeds to tell her that it's done. 576 00:34:06,111 --> 00:34:08,745 He then presents her with his cell phone 577 00:34:08,847 --> 00:34:10,047 to show her the photos. 578 00:34:15,421 --> 00:34:17,754 You know, all the investigators were curious 579 00:34:17,823 --> 00:34:20,924 as to what the reaction of Maria would be. 580 00:34:29,101 --> 00:34:32,235 We were all surprised when she laughed. 581 00:34:32,337 --> 00:34:35,806 [Jason] To smile at seeing your spouse dead in a hole, 582 00:34:35,808 --> 00:34:39,309 um, is significant. 583 00:34:39,311 --> 00:34:40,811 I was shocked. 584 00:34:48,220 --> 00:34:52,255 So as soon as Maria learned that Ramon was dead, 585 00:34:52,357 --> 00:34:54,558 she immediately turned to business 586 00:34:54,626 --> 00:34:57,060 and to satisfy the debt. 587 00:35:08,207 --> 00:35:10,807 [Mike] Suspects acting like Maria Sosa did 588 00:35:10,809 --> 00:35:12,309 is extremely rare. 589 00:35:12,311 --> 00:35:13,810 Fortunately, it's rare. 590 00:35:15,948 --> 00:35:18,815 Before she stepped out of the car, 591 00:35:18,817 --> 00:35:21,284 she smiled, took a deep breath 592 00:35:21,286 --> 00:35:23,053 and raise the roof with her hands 593 00:35:23,055 --> 00:35:24,754 because she was so excited and relieved that 594 00:35:24,823 --> 00:35:28,024 now she was free from Ramon 595 00:35:42,407 --> 00:35:44,808 [Noris] It was very unusual for Ramon not to answer 596 00:35:44,810 --> 00:35:47,210 and not to be at work. 597 00:35:47,212 --> 00:35:51,915 That's why I started getting very concerned 598 00:35:51,917 --> 00:35:53,517 about my brother. 599 00:35:54,753 --> 00:35:57,020 [Mike] We knew at this poin that Ramon's family 600 00:35:57,022 --> 00:35:59,089 and friends had been calling Maria 601 00:35:59,091 --> 00:36:00,957 and calling around, trying to find out 602 00:36:01,059 --> 00:36:04,060 where he was or if she knew anything about where he was. 603 00:36:04,162 --> 00:36:06,630 And so, we wanted to see how she would react 604 00:36:06,632 --> 00:36:08,932 when the officers approached her. 605 00:36:16,308 --> 00:36:18,341 [indistinct chatter on radio] 606 00:36:23,215 --> 00:36:28,051 [Jason] I went into the gym with a uniformed officer 607 00:36:28,053 --> 00:36:31,555 and I pretended to be a detective investigating 608 00:36:31,623 --> 00:36:33,323 a missing person's report. 609 00:36:43,702 --> 00:36:46,303 [Jason] We find that there's three people there. 610 00:36:47,606 --> 00:36:51,608 Um, it was Mrs. Sosa, her mom and her daughter. 611 00:36:57,015 --> 00:36:58,348 [Jason] She picked up her cell phone 612 00:36:58,450 --> 00:37:00,417 and started scrolling through the call history 613 00:37:00,419 --> 00:37:03,453 and the text history to try and give us an idea 614 00:37:03,555 --> 00:37:05,455 when she last talked to him 615 00:37:10,429 --> 00:37:14,064 [Jason] We just let her tal as much as she could. 616 00:37:14,132 --> 00:37:16,199 Everything was being recorde on body cam, 617 00:37:16,201 --> 00:37:19,302 so it was gonna be used as evidence. 618 00:37:28,046 --> 00:37:31,114 It was the final nail in the coffin, for lack of a better term. 619 00:37:38,824 --> 00:37:41,558 [Jason] After I felt like we had enough on video, 620 00:37:41,593 --> 00:37:45,929 I gave my counterpart a non-verbal indicator that... 621 00:37:45,931 --> 00:37:48,398 that I was going to put her in cuffs 622 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,333 and affect the arrest. 623 00:38:00,646 --> 00:38:02,512 [Kelly] When Maria Sosa was arrested, 624 00:38:02,514 --> 00:38:04,614 her mom was acting completely surprised. 625 00:38:04,616 --> 00:38:06,816 Her mom was asking questions 626 00:38:06,818 --> 00:38:09,052 she was following the officers out. 627 00:38:09,121 --> 00:38:10,487 I'm asking them what's going on, 628 00:38:10,489 --> 00:38:12,956 asking Maria, what's going on. 629 00:38:12,958 --> 00:38:16,226 You could tell that she was completely surprise 630 00:38:16,228 --> 00:38:18,028 and taken aback by what was happening. 631 00:38:20,999 --> 00:38:22,832 [indistinct chatter] 632 00:38:27,005 --> 00:38:30,307 [Kelly] Once Maria was arrested and taken to the station, 633 00:38:30,309 --> 00:38:32,709 she was given the opportunity to talk to the officers 634 00:38:32,711 --> 00:38:33,910 about what had happened. 635 00:38:57,536 --> 00:38:58,801 [Kelly] When you arrest someone, 636 00:38:58,803 --> 00:39:01,604 you don't have to read them their Miranda rights. 637 00:39:01,606 --> 00:39:05,008 That's... that's a television thing. 638 00:39:05,010 --> 00:39:07,243 The only time you're required to read them 639 00:39:07,312 --> 00:39:09,312 their Miranda warnings is before if you 640 00:39:09,314 --> 00:39:10,613 want to interview them. 641 00:39:22,227 --> 00:39:23,860 She asked for a lawyer, which was fine 642 00:39:23,928 --> 00:39:27,297 because we had all the evidence we needed. 643 00:39:27,299 --> 00:39:30,633 And so, she was charged with solicitation of capital murder. 644 00:39:34,306 --> 00:39:37,807 [news reporter] ...an investigation resultin in the event... 645 00:39:37,809 --> 00:39:39,142 Maria Sosa... 646 00:39:39,211 --> 00:39:42,312 [Noris] My mom... it was at my sister's house 647 00:39:42,314 --> 00:39:44,814 she saw them on TV, 648 00:39:44,816 --> 00:39:46,149 and that was the breaking news. 649 00:39:46,251 --> 00:39:47,751 And that's how my mom found out. 650 00:39:47,852 --> 00:39:49,519 [news reporter] Mrs. Sosa met with a man 651 00:39:49,521 --> 00:39:51,421 that would carry out the murder. 652 00:39:51,423 --> 00:39:54,224 Everybody knew on the news that Lulu 653 00:39:54,226 --> 00:39:57,460 had been arrested, but they didn't mention me. 654 00:39:57,562 --> 00:39:59,462 [news reporter] She is currently being held and... 655 00:39:59,564 --> 00:40:01,197 [Ramon] I called my mother 656 00:40:01,199 --> 00:40:03,400 and my father answered the phone. 657 00:40:04,603 --> 00:40:08,104 And in the background, I hear my mother, 658 00:40:08,106 --> 00:40:11,808 she was so upset, crying, thinking that I was dead. 659 00:40:16,314 --> 00:40:21,117 Finally, when I got there, my mother was on the couch, 660 00:40:21,119 --> 00:40:25,655 and when she saw me, she just started crying even harder. 661 00:40:27,626 --> 00:40:31,227 [Noris] When Ramon walked i into the room 662 00:40:31,229 --> 00:40:33,329 and we saw him that he was okay 663 00:40:34,332 --> 00:40:36,399 and he told my mom, mom, it's okay, 664 00:40:36,401 --> 00:40:39,536 I'm here, I am doing well. 665 00:40:40,639 --> 00:40:44,240 You know, it was unbelievable. 666 00:40:50,715 --> 00:40:53,650 [Mike] When Maria came in to plead in front of the judge, 667 00:40:53,751 --> 00:40:55,819 she'd already been in jail for over 15 months. 668 00:40:57,322 --> 00:40:59,556 [Ramon] I remember the first hearing, 669 00:40:59,657 --> 00:41:02,225 the first thing that caught my eyes were her shoe 670 00:41:03,128 --> 00:41:06,629 Here she was wearing $1 state shoes, 671 00:41:07,532 --> 00:41:10,200 dressed in a prison suit. 672 00:41:11,603 --> 00:41:13,203 [Kelly] The agreement that was made was that 673 00:41:13,205 --> 00:41:17,207 she would plead guilty to solicitation of murder, 674 00:41:17,209 --> 00:41:20,743 which carries the same punishment range as capital murder, 675 00:41:20,845 --> 00:41:22,812 and receive a sentence of 20 years in prison. 676 00:41:24,049 --> 00:41:25,615 [Ramon] In all the hearings and all the times 677 00:41:25,617 --> 00:41:27,717 that we were in the courtroom together, 678 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,552 she never looked at me once 679 00:41:30,555 --> 00:41:33,323 She had no remorse whatsoever. 680 00:41:35,026 --> 00:41:37,360 When she was sentenced 681 00:41:37,429 --> 00:41:39,829 I tell people I feel like all the air 682 00:41:39,831 --> 00:41:42,098 was left out of the balloon of anger. 683 00:41:42,100 --> 00:41:46,436 I mean, I just was able to sleep better, eat better, 684 00:41:46,505 --> 00:41:49,939 physically I felt a heck of a lot better. 685 00:41:49,941 --> 00:41:53,510 And, you know, life goes on. 686 00:41:57,048 --> 00:41:59,516 [Mitchell] My dad's essentially like Rocky to me you know? 687 00:41:59,518 --> 00:42:01,251 It doesn't matter... 688 00:42:02,053 --> 00:42:03,520 It doesn't matter how hard you hit, 689 00:42:03,522 --> 00:42:05,955 what matters is how hard you can get hit 690 00:42:05,957 --> 00:42:07,257 and keep moving forward. 691 00:42:08,660 --> 00:42:10,426 Whoo! 692 00:42:10,428 --> 00:42:14,264 [Cris] My dad, you know, he hugs us a little longer, 693 00:42:14,365 --> 00:42:17,133 tells us he loves us more than... than usual. 694 00:42:17,202 --> 00:42:21,037 And, you know, most importantly, stays coo 695 00:42:21,106 --> 00:42:24,307 and stays fly, stays funny. 696 00:42:24,309 --> 00:42:28,344 He keeps the, keeps that, that Sosa energy alive. 697 00:42:29,014 --> 00:42:30,146 Yeah.