[Roger speaking]
Donna was kind, generous, loved life.
[Roger speaking]
PATRICIA: Biggest thing she wanted to do was
to find somebody that would treat her good,
get married, and have children.
I mean, you couldn't have been happier if you'd hit a lottery.
We didn't know then what was really going on.
[phone ringing]
[operator speaking]
[Roger speaking]
OPERATOR: Mm-hmm.
-[Roger speaking] -[operator speaking]
All these thoughts go through your head.
It went from a missing persons to where do I go from here?
BRICE WAYNE: And when the details started rolling out,
the forensic started coming in,
it overwhelmed me.
I was blindsided. I didn't see that coming.
[theme music playing]
NARRATOR: It's August 4th, 1989, in Knox County, Kentucky.
32-year-old Air Force serviceman,
Roger Harris, waits patiently at the altar for his bride.
Roger was very nervous, just pacing back and forth, waiting,
you know, not knowing what to do.
NARRATOR: The bride's mother, 38-year-old Patricia Jordan,
checks to see if her daughter is ready to make her entrance.
But I was very proud,
I mean, to see my daughter actually get married.
I wanted to make sure everything was perfect.
NARRATOR: Finally, Roger's bride,
20-year-old Donna, appears.
Her 42-year-old father, Brice,
walks his daughter down the aisle.
PATRICIA: Here comes Donna and her dad, Brice.
Oh, she looks so pretty in that picture.
She was a beautiful bride.
NARRATOR: Donna Jordan was born on November 25th, 1968,
in Valparaiso, Indiana.
PATRICIA: We had three children.
Donna Lynn Jordan, my number one,
Brice Wayne Jordan, number two,
and Shannon Marie Jordan, number three.
NARRATOR: The Jordan children grow up on their parents' farm.
PATRICIA: We had horses, cattle, pigs, goats, chickens,
just things that normal people have on the farm.
Donna took very good care of the younger children when we
was out doing farm work, stuff like that.
BRICE WAYNE: I was close to my older sister, Donna,
because me and her was only three years apart.
She was more, uh, mature
for her age than the rest of us was.
She was the one who kept us in check on all that
and made sure that we didn't do nothing foolish to get hurt.
NARRATOR: In the spring of 1988, 19-year-old Donna
leaves the security of her family.
BRICE WAYNE: We had an aunt that was serving in the military
in Hawaii.
She had a daughter, and she needed a live-in
babysitter that the military was even willing to pay for.
So Donna got a free ride to go to
Hawaii and be paid to be a live-in babysitter.
NARRATOR: Within a few months, Donna meets Roger,
a divorced dad of one.
He would hang out over at my sister's house,
Roger would, and that's where he met Donna.
BRICE WAYNE: And my aunt basically said,
he's a lifetime military man, and he is highly
recognized amongst his peers in the military, and that he had
never been any kind of mischief or trouble.
Then we got letters saying that she found somebody that
she was able to open up and talk to
and somebody that was taking her out on the town
and treating her to dinners and treating her wonderful.
NARRATOR: Roger proposes six months after
he and Donna first meet.
The pair tie the knot five months later.
PATRICIA: Oh, beautiful, beautiful.
Happy. I don't think Donna could
smile any wider than what she's smiling.
She sure is pretty.
NARRATOR: At the reception,
Donna and Roger share a wedding toast.
PATRICIA: This is where they want them to cross arms.
They didn't know quite how to cross arms.
[indistinct talking]
They was much more relaxed at that time.
Like, oh, thank God, it's over with, we're married now.
We can go on with our life.
And we felt very, very good about it. Very good.
NARRATOR: A week after the wedding, Roger is transferred
to Moody Air Force Base near Valdosta, Georgia.
PATRICIA: They went on, like, a week's honeymoon,
and then they moved to a house in Georgia where
it wasn't maybe a mile from the Air Force base
where he was stationed at.
NARRATOR: Donna's siblings come to visit in July 1990.
NARRATOR: Donna videotapes her little sister, Shannon, Roger,
and Roger's daughter from his previous marriage.
BRICE WAYNE: That's the kind of man that --
that Donna married right there.
Just loving to have fun, as you can see, you know.
Look at the grins on their face,
at the fun they were having.
Just picking on each other.
If the kids wanted to wrestle,
he would literally get right down on the floor with them
and roll around like a dog.
You know, it was fun.
Donna's brother, Brice, takes over filming.
[Brice Wayne speaking]
Me and Donna's relationship when we're together,
if we weren't picking on each other, I mean,
one of the two of us was having a really bad day, and it
was just always little -- little picking going on,
and letting each other know that we still love one another.
NARRATOR: The next day, the group head out
to watch an air show.
[Roger speaking]
BRICE WAYNE: Roger's daughter to the right,
Shannon to the left, and Roger was notorious for giving
the Queen Elizabeth wave.
And there I was.
The sun was bright that day.
I remember that -- like I say, I got some burned pretty badly.
They were on the blanket.
They were cutting up, clowning around.
I was sitting there enjoying watching, but I wasn't joining
in, so she had to pick on me,
just get me to react for the video camera.
[Donna speaking]
Even though Donna was married, she had her own life.
But when me, Donna, and Shannon would get together,
it was like we had never left one another's side.
♪♪
NARRATOR: The following summer,
Donna is home alone when she hears a knock at the door.
BRICE WAYNE: A gentleman had broke down in
the neighborhood in the middle of the heat
in June in Georgia.
It was well right around 100 degrees.
Nobody would answer the door to him until he come to
Donna's house.
He wanted to know if he could just borrow
a phone to call somebody to come and get him.
Donna being the person that Donna was,
she was going to help him
BRICE WAYNE: After the phone call,
he asked her for a glass of water.
She stepped in the house,
he stepped in behind her.
PATRICIA: And when she turned her back
to get him the glass of water,
he had pulled a knife on Donna.
BRICE WAYNE: He held the knife to her there
[phone ringing]
until a friend called,
and this friend was supposed to have met Donna for a walk.
Well, the friend called to cancel the walk
or to change time,
and Donna acted like everything was peaches
and cream, and the walk was going on.
And that woman is like, you know, are you in trouble?
And it went into a coded phone call at
the time where the friend knew Donna was in distress.
NARRATOR: Donna ends the call with her friend.
Then the man with the knife attacks her.
BRICE WAYNE: It was a violent rape at knifepoint,
and we don't know if he was intending on
killing Donna or if he was just gonna leave.
We don't know, because the police
was able to get there before then.
NARRATOR: Donna's attacker is named Kenneth Battles.
She testifies at Battles' trial in March 1992.
PATRICIA: When she went to court for the rape,
I came down to support her.
Uh, she seemed nervous, um,
scared,
afraid that if what she said or what she'd done,
that he would get out and come back and harm her.
NARRATOR: The jury finds Kenneth Battles guilty of rape,
aggravated assault, and kidnapping.
The judge sentences him to 60 years in prison.
Afterwards, she wouldn't go nowhere by herself.
She was too afraid to.
She was very frightened, and she was scared to even stay by
herself after that for a while.
But Roger seemed very kind and willing to help her.
Um, he was there for her, and it
seems like they could lean on each other.
Uh, there never seemed like there was any doubt
that they really loved each other
and they was there for each other, and that's pretty
important in a marriage.
NARRATOR: On October 22nd, 1992,
Donna gives birth to a son, Joey.
PATRICIA: Joseph was born, and she was very, very happy.
Roger was very happy, excited.
"I got a boy! I got a boy!"
I mean, he was like a proud peacock.
BRICE WAYNE: And Joey just brought so much joy to the home.
Her and Roger both were just -- just
beautiful again, they had a glow to them.
They was -- they was living large.
PATRICIA: Okay, here's Donna -- she's trying to get him to nap
is what it is. [laughs]
Get him good and tired so she can
put him -- put him down for his nap.
That's how she checks him.
See how she picks up the arm and drops it?
NARRATOR: Donna revels in her role as a new mom.
But she continues to struggle in the aftermath
of her rape the year before.
BRICE WAYNE: After the rape,
my sister was just completely different.
Even after Joey was born,
we had noticed Donna was still very insecure.
She would just kind of withdraw.
We tried to be there as much as we could.
Uh, we showed support as a family.
NARRATOR: In July 1994,
the Air Force transfers Roger to Arkansas.
The family moves to Harrison.
The change of scene focuses Donna's
mind about what she wants from life.
Once Joey started getting old
enough to start preschool, kindergarten,
she wanted to find something to start
doing to give her life a purpose.
[child babbling]
Donna come to the decision to become a nurse.
NARRATOR: Donna enrolls in nursing school in August 1994.
Roger films Joey as he greets his mom after a day in class.
I apparently would wait at the front door like
a lost puppy and just wait for her to come in.
Mm-hmm.
[Roger speaking]
As soon as she got home and got out of the car,
I was jumping up in her arms.
[laughs]
Muwah!
-[Roger speaking] -[Joseph babbling]
NARRATOR: Roger and Donna see their stay
in Arkansas as temporary.
They both hankered to live somewhere warmer.
DONNA: Thank you.
ROGER: Ahhh!
JOSEPH: Ah!
NARRATOR: In March 1995,
they drive the 900-mile journey to Lake City, Florida,
to scope out land on which to build a forever home.
This is the new home, going to be,
this is her spot of ground.
Uh, there's 10 acres -- as you see, it's very sandy.
[Roger speaking]
PATRICIA: They had dreams of owning land,
having livestock, and, uh,
just a place where they could relax.
Everything seemed like it was just coming together.
NARRATOR: Three months later,
Roger retires from the Air Force.
PATRICIA: Roger retired after 17 years out
of the military, June 30th of 1995.
They did all these accommodational rewards,
medals, and things that he received, and Donna also
received one for being the wife of a military person.
It's hard to be a military wife for the simple reason,
when you're in the military,
they go away for months and years on end,
and you have to be supportive of what they're doing,
keep up the home in the States.
NARRATOR: The Harris family makes the move to Florida
in the fall of 1995.
Donna finds work at a veterans hospital in Lake City.
Roger stays at home and looks after Joey.
A year later, Donna discovers that
she is pregnant with her second child.
[man speaking]
PATRICIA: When Donna found out that she
was pregnant with another child, she was...
kind of beside herself,
happy-go-lucky.
She had a good job, a good career.
She had her children.
Roger seemed very contented.
But I was never sure how Roger's
mindset was with getting out of the military.
He ran his house like a military base,
and Roger would be harsh on her.
I started seeing a side of Roger, a very manipulating,
controlling side to him that the family had never got to see.
[man speaking indistinctly]
[woman speaking indistinctly]
[man speaking indistinctly]
PATRICIA: Timothy was born March 13th, 1997,
at the Gainesville Hospital in Gainesville, Florida.
It seemed like a very joyous, joyous occasion.
Happy, and Timmy was so tiny.
[laughs] He was such a tiny little thing.
Joseph was very, very excited that he had a baby brother.
[Joseph talking]
PATRICIA: Donna just got out of the hospital, was coming home.
Roger's got the baby.
He's helping Donna out.
-[woman speaking] -[Joseph speaking]
[Joseph speaking]
PATRICIA: Shannon baked the cake.
She worked all day on it. [laughs]
Joey's so excited.
"Made it for my baby. Made it for my baby brother."
[Joseph speaking]
JOSEPH: You know, I had no idea how excited I was
for him to come home.
I love that I just seem stuck on -- that's my baby.
That's my baby brother.
That's adorable. We're a family.
NARRATOR: One year later, Donna's parents sell
their home in Kentucky.
They move to Lake City, Florida, to
be closer to Donna and their grandchildren.
This is when things -- we felt a little different.
All of a sudden Roger, he didn't want us there.
We didn't know why.
Donna was becoming more independent.
He did not like that.
He got bored watching the kids, taking care of things.
He went on to work then for Walmart.
[Roger speaking]
PATRICIA: While he was working there, they offered him
a chance to become a district manager.
Roger made it really key to everybody knowing
that a man needs to be the provider,
and then a woman's place is in the house.
But Donna worked very hard as a nurse,
and Roger was not real thrilled about it,
but by the end, Roger was showing her a little bit of
support to help her, but she
still had to maintain her housework.
PATRICIA: Oh, Roger decided
he wanted to keep the kids at home more.
So he was gonna hire a babysitter.
In December of 1996,
Donna and Roger went to a Christmas party,
and that's where they met Jennifer Palmer.
Jennifer kind of needed a place to stay,
and it was going to be beneficial
for Donna and Roger for her
to move in with them so that she could be a babysitter
where they didn't have to run the kids anywhere.
They could be more at home.
So he hired this girl, and Donna seemed okay with it at
the time, because then she wouldn't have to pay
that much for a sitter.
BRICE WAYNE: But then Donna told me that her
and Roger wasn't getting to spend time together.
He was always at work.
PATRICIA: And Donna was getting kind of suspicious,
more or less, of what was going on because of the way they
connected with each other and snuck around
and talked to each other.
July 3rd of 1998,
Donna discovered emails with Jennifer Palmer
and Roger.
He would give her times when to meet with her, when not to.
BRICE WAYNE: Roger was having an affair.
All the nights that she was worried about him working late,
he wasn't working.
It just devastated her.
It felt like somebody just tore her world away from her.
PATRICIA: She just told Roger she wanted to get
away for a few days and clear her head.
So she came over and stayed, and she talked.
We all talked it out.
And so when she went back, she confronted him
about the emails.
He says, "Oh, yes," he says, "I fell away, and I
cheated on you, and I'm so sorry, I'll never do it again."
She said, "Well, the girl has to go, has to move out."
She was getting pretty hard on Roger by this time.
And so he says, "Okay, I'll move her out."
She said, "If you don't, I will."
Donna chucked her out more or less on her ear,
all her stuff and all, right out the door, honey.
NARRATOR: Jennifer rents a place in town.
But Donna keeps her on as the family's babysitter.
PATRICIA: It was really surprising that Donna would even
still talk to her and to allow her to come back and babysit.
But Roger had to be out of the house.
She babysat a few weeks after that until finally,
Donna seen or knew
that they were still seeing each other and that she
was actually coming over when Donna was gone, um, sneaking
behind her back, and Roger
sneaking, even though he promised that he wouldn't.
Donna said that she wanted Jennifer Palmer not
to have no part whatsoever in their lives.
Uh, and they would have nothing more to do with
Jennifer Palmer.
BRICE WAYNE: Roger went to counseling and broke up
with Jennifer Palmer, and everything was going good.
He wanted to be back with Donna,
that he realized his mistake.
MAN: Ew.
[laughter]
PATRICIA: By that time, Donna and Roger was seeming
like they was trying to put their marriage together.
Around her,
he portrayed the loving father, husband.
She knew no different.
She thought, well, yeah, he had a fling,
it's over with, let's move on.
That's just the way she was.
[indistinct talking]
This was, uh, thanksgiving in, um, '98.
They decided to come over to our house for
Thanksgiving dinner.
JOSEPH: The whole family's together.
The kids know to stay out of the house,
stay out of the kitchen, get out from under their feet.
I remember hanging a little airplane out in the front yard.
[shouts indistinctly]
It seemed like most of the family
atmosphere was, when we were there together,
there's -- nothing else mattered.
PATRICIA: We see no change.
Uh, not at that point other than things
were just a little more quieter than normal.
But -- because we didn't know then what was really going on.
BRICE WAYNE: Nobody could ever imagine that it would
turn out the way that it did.
I was blindsided. I didn't see that coming.
[operator speaking]
-[Roger speaking] -[operator speaking]
[Roger speaking]
[operator speaking]
[Roger speaking]
[operator speaking]
[Roger speaking]
[operator speaking]
[Roger speaking]
PATRICIA: On December 4th of 1998,
Roger brought Timmy to our home
and told us that Donna was missing.
I said, "What do you mean Donna's missing?"
He said, "Well, Donna got in her van last night,
"was gonna go to Walmart and exchange a jack
"that she had bought me for my birthday, but I already had one.
So she was gonna take it back."
And he said she'd never come back home.
Donna would not leave her boys.
Donna would not go out of the house at night.
All these things is running through my head.
And when I told Brice about it, he said,
"Something's not right." He says, "Call the police."
I called the police and told them what was going on,
what I thought.
And they said, "Oh, we can't put out any kind of report,"
he said, "for 24 hours."
And I said, "You people don't understand, this is not Donna."
And I mean, I got onto them.
I was calling them every hour on the hour and finally they
got tired of me calling, and I said,
"I ain't waiting no 24 hours."
We're crazy-headed.
We knew something was wrong -- on Sunday,
we knew, just a feeling, that something bad
had happened to Donna.
♪♪
NARRATOR: 72 hours after Donna's disappearance,
the Columbia County Sheriff's Office receives a report of
a suspicious abandoned vehicle.
DONNIE: On December 7th,
employees of the truck stop located
at I- 75 and 441
called 911, stating that they've noticed a foul odor
coming from the area of the van
that was in the north parking lot.
Upon my arrival,
um, I noticed the 1992 Chevy Astro van
in the north parking lot, away from the business,
isolated by itself.
We ran the vehicle license plate,
and it came back to Roger and Donna Harris.
Walking around to the right side of
the van, where the sliding door is,
I could observe a deceased white
female in an advanced state of decomposition.
Looking at her, she matched
the description of what we believed to be Donna Harris.
NARRATOR: Crime scene technicians search the vehicle.
She was face-down, with her head between
the seat and the wall of the van.
You could not make out any type of injury
to the head or body.
A nail punch was located near Donna's body.
It's used to drive through pieces of metal
nails that you can't extract out of something.
They had found a purse behind the passenger seat,
a bolt, and a floor jack in the rear of the van.
My mind immediately raced to something's not right here.
The doors are locked, the keys are missing.
She's face-down in the far back seat.
In my mind, there's foul play.
It went from a missing persons to a homicide case.
NARRATOR: Detectives delay notifying Donna's family about
their discovery until they have more information.
DONNIE: The problem with small towns is words get out fast.
People start making calls, and there's 50 stories
out there, and 49 and 1/2 of them are incorrect.
So when we located Donna, we're gonna be
very tight-lipped.
I begin the process of finding
where's Donna been these three days.
I went to the VA domiciliary
for veterans to interview coworkers,
see when she had been there,
what shift she worked, and gaining insight on
Donna's work,
what she had said about her home life, and I was told that
she had been complaining about
marital problems with Roger Harris.
Donna's colleagues told us that he was having
an affair with a girl named Jennifer Palmer.
While speaking with coworkers of Donna Harris,
one of the male employees points out the window and says,
"There goes Roger now."
I'm interested in why Roger
is pulling through Donna Harris's work.
I immediately went to the parking lot,
got into my unmarked vehicle, and began to follow Roger.
NARRATOR: Roger drives to a nearby residential property.
Detective Brown watches Roger enter the house.
On the day that we found his wife deceased in the van,
I definitely wanted to know who lived there.
NARRATOR: Detective Brown's colleagues
report that the residence belongs
to Roger's alleged mistress, Jennifer Palmer.
DONNIE: 10 minutes later, Roger emerges from the residence
and gets into his car
and proceeds southbound on Country Club Road
off of [indistinct].
We followed Roger all the way to his residence,
and while up the road, I contact Roger by phone
and announce who I am.
I ask him if he had seen or heard from Donna.
Any updates?
Roger tells me, "I was gonna ask you the same thing."
I get some base information from him,
and I started to throw some things out there
and ask him about his relationship with
Jennifer Palmer.
He was extremely nervous, voice shaking.
Not sure what to say.
He immediately starts telling me
they were having marital problems.
He admits to an affair with Jennifer.
Roger said that six days prior, on December
the first, was the last time that he had seen Jennifer.
So I knew that he was lying.
I knew there was more for Roger to
tell me, and it probably wasn't gonna be good.
NARRATOR: Detective Brown arranges for Roger and Jennifer
to be interviewed at the sheriff's office.
So I'm getting very serious at this point about finding out
what happened to Donna, and I feel like
I have the two people on the way to tell me the answers.
Jennifer was more nervous than most people I had dealt with
in my career -- hands visibly shaking,
eyes tearing up.
When I asked Jennifer the last time she had seen Roger Harris,
Jennifer told me it was on the first of December.
This is also what Roger had told me.
I told her that we basically had found Donna
deceased in a van
and that she had been killed and I want to know
what she knew about that.
And her actual statement after I told her she needed to get
it off her chest was, "I just want to tell the truth."
Jennifer said that she and Roger had
been having an affair for five months.
Donna had found out about it.
But the affair continues.
Roger tells Jennifer,
"Donna's threatened to take the children from me.
"Divorce is not an option.
"I'm not gonna lose property. I'm not gonna lose children.
My only way out is taking Donna's life."
BOB: According to Jennifer,
Roger said he was gonna make a gun to kill his wife
with, and he invited Jennifer
around to his house one day when the wife wasn't there
and showed her the gun in progress.
DONNIE: He was slowly, methodically, sawing pipe,
fitting things to make a gun.
I refer it to a zip gun -- it's a homemade gun.
BOB: Roger had told Jennifer he was gonna kill Donna with it.
He was gonna shoot her in the head in the van,
and then he was gonna need help disposing of the body.
NARRATOR: Jennifer tells detectives that she and Roger
met at a diner on the morning of December 3rd.
He says, "It's gonna go down tonight,"
and says he's gonna call her when it's done.
[phone ringing]
At about 10:30 that night, she gets a phone call.
Roger says, "Well, I did it.
I'm washing my hands, and you need to get here."
She got to the house, Roger was there.
He wanted her to follow him down to the parking lot.
Uh, he parked Donna's van.
And then Roger tried to clean up
the inside of the car as best he could.
♪♪
Then she drove him back to his house
and then went and disposed of the evidence,
bloody clothes,
and then she finally threw the components to
the gun off the end of the dock.
NARRATOR: Next, Detective Brown interviews Roger.
So I sat down with Roger, and he had that look,
he was still doing the grieving husband look,
and when Roger realized what Jennifer had shared with me,
I mean he just sat back,
and it was a straight, stone-cold changed Roger.
It was, "You gotta prove it, bud, I ain't saying nothing.
I want an attorney."
NARRATOR: Detective Brown arrests Roger Harris
on suspicion of first-degree murder.
He arrest Jennifer Palmer for
being an accessory after the fact.
PATRICIA: Well, I knew when the detectives pulled up
my yard, something had happened,
bad, because he brought us Joseph.
They picked him up from school, and we sat at the kitchen table,
and the detective says, "I hate to inform you,
but we found Donna."
And I said, "Is she okay?"
And he told us at that time she had --
they had found her body.
You don't know to speak. You don't know to think.
You're numb -- a lot of it, you're just numb.
JOSEPH: When I walked into the kitchen,
Nanna Pat and Papaw Brice,
both of their backs were to me, and I remember,
before I saw them,
I heard the crying.
You know, you can never really prepare a child of that --
I was six years old at the time.
They sat me down and told me that
my mother was gone and wasn't coming back.
That's a memory I don't think I'll ever, uh, forget.
♪♪
NARRATOR: Jennifer directs investigators
to where she disposed of the items
that she says Roger cleaned up from Donna's van.
Investigators scour the locations
to recover physical evidence
that links Roger to his wife's murder.
They had scuba drivers look on the bottom of the lake.
There was a half-inch diameter pipe that was connected to
the smaller diameter pipe that a .357 magnum bullet would fit
right into.
The portions of the gun that were found in the van were
the finishing nail punch and bolt that had been sharpened on
one end.
You have a number of pieces at the --
in the car, and you have a number of pieces
in the, uh, in the lake.
And did they go together? They did.
It was a very effective short-range murder weapon.
The medical examiner, he was able to take that
finishing nail punch and fit it perfectly into the hole
that was in the back of Donna's head.
This was probably one of
the most premeditated murders that I've ever handled.
Because you -- you set out, you know, I'm gonna kill
somebody, and in order to kill that person,
I'm gonna make a gun to kill 'em with.
Roger had grown tired of his wife, Donna.
He told a number of people that he hated her,
and so he shot her in the back of the head with
the homemade gun.
♪♪
NARRATOR: On April 24th, 2000,
Roger pleads not guilty to the murder of his wife.
Jennifer pleads guilty to being
an accessory to murder and tampering with evidence.
She agrees to testify against Roger at
his trial in exchange for a lesser sentence.
On April 27th, 2000, the jury found Roger Harris guilty
of murder in the first degree
and conspiracy to commit murder in the first degree.
NARRATOR: The judge sentences Roger Harris to death.
An appeal court later commutes his sentence
to 30 years in prison.
Jennifer Palmer receives 25 years in prison.
An appeal court later reduces this to 20 years.
I was very relieved when Roger Harris
was sentenced to death,
even though he didn't stay there.
But it was like a big weight had been
lifted off our shoulder and that Donna got her justice.
BRICE WAYNE: My mom and dad ended up getting custody
of Timmy and Joey, and when Joey was
a teenager and Timmy was eight years old,
they decided they wanted to live with me and my wife.
I think she'd be extremely proud of them.
I know I am, I'm very proud of
the way both of them have turned out.
JOSEPH: I feel like over the years, Nanna Pat
and Papaw Brice have done a wonderful job of keeping
her memory alive and well.
PATRICIA: They asked something, we let them know.
They had their pictures of her hanging up on the wall.
I have kept everything that she treasured,
but I still wish she was here.
There'll never be another.