1 00:00:00,456 --> 00:00:01,849 Ladies and gentlemen, 2 00:00:01,951 --> 00:00:03,523 Whitney Holland. 3 00:00:04,657 --> 00:00:06,483 I grew up on a farm. 4 00:00:07,593 --> 00:00:09,265 Couple hundred acres. 5 00:00:10,796 --> 00:00:12,093 Every day, 6 00:00:12,208 --> 00:00:14,281 my dad would go out to the field. 7 00:00:14,754 --> 00:00:16,088 Bale hay, 8 00:00:16,453 --> 00:00:18,375 feed slop to the pigs, 9 00:00:18,962 --> 00:00:20,304 shovel cow dung. 10 00:00:22,414 --> 00:00:24,390 I can still smell that cow dung. 11 00:00:27,820 --> 00:00:31,343 And then the summer before my ninth birthday, 12 00:00:31,578 --> 00:00:35,468 there was this amazing heat wave, 13 00:00:35,578 --> 00:00:39,625 and with it, this unrelenting drought. 14 00:00:39,975 --> 00:00:42,875 The kind of drought that just seems to go on forever. 15 00:00:43,436 --> 00:00:46,021 And I remember my dad doing everything he could 16 00:00:46,109 --> 00:00:50,115 to save the crops, save the animals, 17 00:00:50,398 --> 00:00:53,771 but the crops dried up. 18 00:00:54,468 --> 00:00:56,804 Animals started to die. 19 00:00:57,383 --> 00:00:59,419 And then, one late August morning, 20 00:00:59,507 --> 00:01:01,735 my father dropped dead in a cornfield. 21 00:01:03,351 --> 00:01:05,734 Dehydration and heart failure. 22 00:01:06,749 --> 00:01:08,872 He was 32 years old. 23 00:01:09,764 --> 00:01:10,824 By the way, 24 00:01:10,912 --> 00:01:13,935 I'm not talking about India 25 00:01:14,023 --> 00:01:15,097 or Africa. 26 00:01:15,184 --> 00:01:18,796 I'm talking 150 miles 27 00:01:18,884 --> 00:01:20,799 up the New York State Thruway. 28 00:01:21,117 --> 00:01:24,656 Less than three hours from this vast body of water. 29 00:01:25,695 --> 00:01:27,196 Makes no sense. 30 00:01:29,085 --> 00:01:31,523 In a world with so much water, 31 00:01:31,765 --> 00:01:36,248 why are so many people without? 32 00:01:39,918 --> 00:01:41,239 This... 33 00:01:41,687 --> 00:01:44,169 ...is the Freshwater Honeycomb. 34 00:01:44,875 --> 00:01:48,523 It's a passive, nonelectrical desalination tool. 35 00:01:48,611 --> 00:01:50,395 It acts like a chemical magnet, 36 00:01:50,729 --> 00:01:54,070 separating salt from water on a molecular level. 37 00:01:54,213 --> 00:01:55,757 It's inexpensive 38 00:01:55,994 --> 00:01:59,563 and doesn't rely on any exhaustible energy sources. 39 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,812 Imagine this, ladies and gentlemen, 40 00:02:04,900 --> 00:02:07,359 happening on a global scale. 41 00:02:07,671 --> 00:02:09,368 An endless supply of water 42 00:02:09,455 --> 00:02:11,734 provided by the world's five oceans, 43 00:02:11,822 --> 00:02:14,302 hundreds of rivers, and thousands of lakes, 44 00:02:14,634 --> 00:02:17,664 and purified by the Freshwater Honeycomb. 45 00:02:18,742 --> 00:02:21,718 My tech team tells me we're only 90 days away. 46 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,351 Ah. 47 00:02:37,265 --> 00:02:38,773 So who wants in? 48 00:02:42,953 --> 00:02:44,186 Come on in. 49 00:02:47,250 --> 00:02:49,625 I hear you told them 90 days. 50 00:02:50,250 --> 00:02:51,703 To scale up to what? 51 00:02:51,932 --> 00:02:53,891 25 million gallons a day? 52 00:02:54,046 --> 00:02:55,501 That would be a good start. 53 00:02:55,773 --> 00:02:57,112 You know that's not gonna happen. 54 00:02:57,406 --> 00:03:00,804 Not in 90 days, maybe not in 90 years. 55 00:03:00,992 --> 00:03:03,562 No, I don't know that's not going to happen, 56 00:03:03,664 --> 00:03:04,946 and you don't either. 57 00:03:05,186 --> 00:03:08,035 Whitney, not every problem can be solved 58 00:03:08,123 --> 00:03:09,776 simply by adding enthusiasm. 59 00:03:09,863 --> 00:03:13,041 Okay, Derek, it's 10:00 at night. 60 00:03:13,128 --> 00:03:16,609 What do you need? Some new piece of software? 61 00:03:16,781 --> 00:03:18,466 What-what new gizmo do you need? 62 00:03:18,554 --> 00:03:20,700 What-what new biochemist do you want me to try to steal from... 63 00:03:20,787 --> 00:03:22,006 It's none of that. 64 00:03:22,093 --> 00:03:25,009 Whitney, I'm done. I'm just done. 65 00:03:25,632 --> 00:03:28,607 You keep taking people's money, promising them the moon, 66 00:03:28,695 --> 00:03:30,178 and I'm supposed to be your Neil Armstrong 67 00:03:30,265 --> 00:03:32,538 and give it to them, and I'm telling you I can't. 68 00:03:32,741 --> 00:03:35,105 What? Derek, we've been here before. 69 00:03:35,648 --> 00:03:38,341 You're just tired. You're nowhere near done. 70 00:03:38,429 --> 00:03:40,443 500 gallons is great for a demonstration, 71 00:03:40,531 --> 00:03:43,240 but we need to prove we can scale up 72 00:03:43,328 --> 00:03:46,204 the Freshwater Honeycomb to handle whole municipalities, 73 00:03:46,375 --> 00:03:48,208 city water systems, state water... 74 00:03:48,296 --> 00:03:50,380 I've been trying to tell you for a month. 75 00:03:50,468 --> 00:03:53,732 It can't. You know it. We both know it. 76 00:03:54,335 --> 00:03:57,257 And tomorrow the D.A. is gonna know it. 77 00:04:11,882 --> 00:04:13,609 Psst. 78 00:04:14,523 --> 00:04:16,216 How did he score vacation time? 79 00:04:16,375 --> 00:04:19,592 He didn't, not that I'm aware of. 80 00:04:23,570 --> 00:04:24,851 Beautiful. 81 00:04:24,938 --> 00:04:28,226 I'm still using the ones I got in college. 82 00:04:28,539 --> 00:04:30,888 Funny you should say that. They're for my daughter. 83 00:04:30,976 --> 00:04:34,130 Your daughter? You guys are taking a trip together? 84 00:04:34,218 --> 00:04:37,287 She called me last night. She won a scholarship, 85 00:04:37,375 --> 00:04:38,531 a journalism scholarship, 86 00:04:38,619 --> 00:04:41,820 to study abroad for six months in Jordan. 87 00:04:42,170 --> 00:04:45,593 Jordan, ah, Middle East. 88 00:04:45,866 --> 00:04:47,419 How do you feel about that? 89 00:04:47,507 --> 00:04:51,400 Thrilled, excited, proud of her. 90 00:04:52,335 --> 00:04:53,796 Scared for her. 91 00:04:54,467 --> 00:04:55,903 The packet that they sent 92 00:04:55,991 --> 00:04:57,318 keeps talking about how safe it is, 93 00:04:57,405 --> 00:04:59,240 even though we know it's in a part of the world that, 94 00:04:59,327 --> 00:05:00,713 you know, is a little scary. 95 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,044 But if you want to be a journalist, 96 00:05:03,132 --> 00:05:04,841 a serious journalist, and she does... 97 00:05:04,929 --> 00:05:06,475 My God. 98 00:05:07,069 --> 00:05:10,195 1,500 students applied, and they picked her. 99 00:05:10,538 --> 00:05:12,284 I mean, you're looking at a guy who didn't leave Georgia 100 00:05:12,371 --> 00:05:14,272 until he was 18 years old. 101 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,172 It is obscene how proud I am. 102 00:05:21,339 --> 00:05:23,559 Yeah. 103 00:05:23,975 --> 00:05:26,298 I'm guessing you've read the papers, 104 00:05:26,443 --> 00:05:28,217 seen the reports. 105 00:05:28,779 --> 00:05:31,695 The federal government is taking me to court. 106 00:05:32,217 --> 00:05:34,219 Criminal court. Uh... 107 00:05:34,452 --> 00:05:38,671 Charging me with two counts of conspiracy to commit fraud, 108 00:05:38,796 --> 00:05:41,357 nine counts of wire fraud, 109 00:05:41,647 --> 00:05:45,076 some other, less consequential things 110 00:05:45,164 --> 00:05:46,131 that I can't remember right now, 111 00:05:46,219 --> 00:05:49,309 though all the charges do end with the word "fraud." 112 00:05:50,553 --> 00:05:52,186 You're on the front page. 113 00:05:53,607 --> 00:05:55,444 Oh, that's 114 00:05:55,616 --> 00:05:57,329 pithy. 115 00:05:57,416 --> 00:05:59,593 So, why do you think the government 116 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,475 is suddenly coming after you? 117 00:06:01,943 --> 00:06:03,311 My friend... 118 00:06:03,632 --> 00:06:06,960 my head of R & D, 119 00:06:08,216 --> 00:06:11,030 he just became convinced we were chasing a ghost, 120 00:06:11,126 --> 00:06:13,850 that there was no way we could get to where we needed to go, 121 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:15,962 so he went to the Feds. 122 00:06:16,499 --> 00:06:17,864 But why do that? 123 00:06:17,952 --> 00:06:20,352 If he was unhappy, why not just quit? 124 00:06:21,100 --> 00:06:23,991 I think I became so good 125 00:06:24,079 --> 00:06:26,757 at raising money that he got spooked. 126 00:06:27,527 --> 00:06:30,613 And when it was just a lark, when we had no money, 127 00:06:30,952 --> 00:06:32,364 no one to answer to, 128 00:06:32,451 --> 00:06:33,884 there was no pressure. 129 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,798 But when people heard what we were up to, 130 00:06:36,893 --> 00:06:39,116 they started throwing money at us. 131 00:06:39,204 --> 00:06:42,837 I mean, it's been a wild couple of years. 132 00:06:42,925 --> 00:06:44,927 But the more successful we got, 133 00:06:45,015 --> 00:06:49,306 the more Derek just froze. 134 00:06:49,628 --> 00:06:53,009 I'm guessing he thought that if he could 135 00:06:53,111 --> 00:06:56,300 recast himself as the whistleblower 136 00:06:56,388 --> 00:06:58,353 rather than the co-conspirator, 137 00:06:58,594 --> 00:07:01,597 that he might be able to work again. 138 00:07:02,003 --> 00:07:05,355 The government is claiming your water desalination technology 139 00:07:05,443 --> 00:07:07,834 is incapable of being applied to anything other than 140 00:07:07,922 --> 00:07:09,738 personal use application, 141 00:07:09,826 --> 00:07:13,177 but that in your pitches and demonstrations and 142 00:07:13,405 --> 00:07:15,152 investment prospectuses, 143 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,691 you've been selling it as the answer 144 00:07:17,779 --> 00:07:20,246 to the global water shortage. 145 00:07:20,891 --> 00:07:23,981 They say you're peddling a pipe dream. 146 00:07:24,261 --> 00:07:27,050 Look, I'm not a nut. 147 00:07:27,255 --> 00:07:29,214 I'm not a scam artist. 148 00:07:29,699 --> 00:07:32,468 I'm not saying I've discovered something 149 00:07:32,555 --> 00:07:35,759 that can help you lose weight or make your hair grow back. 150 00:07:35,847 --> 00:07:37,949 I'm not saying I can help women 151 00:07:38,037 --> 00:07:41,737 fill out their bikinis or men look more manly 152 00:07:41,825 --> 00:07:42,902 in their Speedos. 153 00:07:42,990 --> 00:07:46,363 I'm saying I can help quench the thirst of the world. 154 00:07:47,949 --> 00:07:50,517 I can help water crops in a desert. 155 00:07:50,902 --> 00:07:52,835 The ramifications are huge. 156 00:07:52,923 --> 00:07:55,402 I mean... look, there are four things 157 00:07:55,490 --> 00:07:57,503 every human being on this planet needs: 158 00:07:57,736 --> 00:08:00,581 air to breathe, food to eat, 159 00:08:00,942 --> 00:08:03,074 a piece of land to stand on, 160 00:08:03,498 --> 00:08:05,503 and water. 161 00:08:06,414 --> 00:08:08,081 You figure out the water part, 162 00:08:08,405 --> 00:08:10,712 everything else falls into place. 163 00:08:10,901 --> 00:08:12,105 You can grow more food, 164 00:08:12,193 --> 00:08:14,500 you can plant more trees to help create more oxygen, 165 00:08:14,739 --> 00:08:17,426 and people can live anywhere, 166 00:08:17,822 --> 00:08:19,563 no matter the climate. 167 00:08:20,652 --> 00:08:24,346 This is real. This matters. 168 00:08:25,129 --> 00:08:26,965 I get that the guy choked, 169 00:08:27,053 --> 00:08:28,435 but why sell her out to the government? 170 00:08:28,522 --> 00:08:29,879 It just doesn't make sense to me. 171 00:08:29,967 --> 00:08:32,512 Well, it's all about the money. As soon as he called the Feds, 172 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,341 he stopped being a disgruntled employee 173 00:08:34,429 --> 00:08:37,040 and became classified as an SEC whistleblower. 174 00:08:37,157 --> 00:08:40,137 And as an SEC whistleblower, if the government wins, 175 00:08:40,225 --> 00:08:43,402 he gets a percentage of whatever cash judgment the court levies. 176 00:08:43,490 --> 00:08:45,144 The plot thickens. 177 00:08:49,110 --> 00:08:51,340 You're not gonna represent her, are you? 178 00:08:52,598 --> 00:08:54,738 What's your issue, Benny? 179 00:08:54,833 --> 00:08:56,363 First of all, you promised me 180 00:08:56,451 --> 00:08:59,098 that I could have some say in the cases we take around here. 181 00:08:59,186 --> 00:09:02,189 And second of all, we just sat with that woman 182 00:09:02,406 --> 00:09:05,105 for a half an hour, and she didn't say a single thing 183 00:09:05,193 --> 00:09:07,238 I can use to mount a defense. 184 00:09:07,326 --> 00:09:09,082 Do you believe what she told you? 185 00:09:09,463 --> 00:09:11,073 Do you believe she was lying to you? 186 00:09:11,981 --> 00:09:14,035 I'm not sure that's relevant. 187 00:09:14,123 --> 00:09:16,168 I think it's the only thing that is relevant. 188 00:09:16,514 --> 00:09:18,762 If she believes what she's saying, 189 00:09:18,850 --> 00:09:21,746 what she's selling, then there is no criminal intent. 190 00:09:21,886 --> 00:09:24,062 And if there is no criminal intent, 191 00:09:24,188 --> 00:09:25,885 then there is no crime. 192 00:09:25,995 --> 00:09:28,171 But, Bull, how do we do that? 193 00:09:28,461 --> 00:09:32,250 How do we prove what someone does or doesn't believe? 194 00:09:32,345 --> 00:09:34,477 Especially if the thing that she believes in 195 00:09:34,565 --> 00:09:35,977 doesn't actually exist? 196 00:09:36,065 --> 00:09:38,503 Well, for what it's worth, I believe her. 197 00:09:38,591 --> 00:09:41,071 You think she can change seawater into drinking water? 198 00:09:41,453 --> 00:09:43,151 You believe she can change the world? 199 00:09:43,239 --> 00:09:44,719 I believe she believes she can. 200 00:09:44,807 --> 00:09:46,722 Of course you do. Well, I don't. 201 00:09:46,810 --> 00:09:48,320 Benny... 202 00:09:49,048 --> 00:09:51,093 I told you that I would listen to you, 203 00:09:51,414 --> 00:09:52,922 and I have listened to you, 204 00:09:53,010 --> 00:09:55,867 and what you said mattered to me, 205 00:09:56,701 --> 00:09:58,747 but I'm taking the case. 206 00:10:01,747 --> 00:10:03,749 *BULL (2016)* Season 04 Episode 02 207 00:10:03,843 --> 00:10:06,396 *BULL (2016)* Episode Title :"Fantastica Voyage" 208 00:10:07,693 --> 00:10:09,302 So, how does this work? 209 00:10:09,553 --> 00:10:12,238 Well, today is about trying to select a jury 210 00:10:12,326 --> 00:10:15,561 that's at least open to hearing the arguments 211 00:10:15,648 --> 00:10:16,606 we're gonna make in court. 212 00:10:16,693 --> 00:10:18,086 And how do we do that? 213 00:10:18,286 --> 00:10:21,176 Yes, Dr. Bull, how do we do that? 214 00:10:21,638 --> 00:10:24,933 Well, the first thing we have to try and do 215 00:10:25,021 --> 00:10:27,341 is reframe what this trial is about. 216 00:10:27,503 --> 00:10:29,294 The assistant United States attorney 217 00:10:29,401 --> 00:10:32,490 wants to make it about the things you promised 218 00:10:32,578 --> 00:10:34,987 versus the things you were actually able to accomplish 219 00:10:35,075 --> 00:10:36,256 before they pulled the plug on you. 220 00:10:36,350 --> 00:10:38,715 Well, that is 221 00:10:39,067 --> 00:10:41,108 what the trial is about. 222 00:10:41,196 --> 00:10:43,546 Not if we have anything to do with it. 223 00:10:43,957 --> 00:10:47,370 I want to use the jury selection process to put the idea 224 00:10:47,458 --> 00:10:50,118 in their head that what this is really about 225 00:10:50,449 --> 00:10:52,119 is something different entirely. 226 00:10:52,207 --> 00:10:53,425 And that would be? 227 00:10:53,638 --> 00:10:55,029 Belief systems. 228 00:10:55,145 --> 00:10:57,472 There are people who believed for the longest time 229 00:10:57,560 --> 00:11:00,652 that phones had to be black, with rotary dials, 230 00:11:00,740 --> 00:11:04,386 and be connected with wires that disappeared into the wall 231 00:11:04,482 --> 00:11:07,708 and ran from pole to pole along the side of the road. 232 00:11:07,796 --> 00:11:08,875 And that that's what phones are 233 00:11:08,962 --> 00:11:11,400 and that's what phones will always be. 234 00:11:11,791 --> 00:11:13,966 That cars could only run on gasoline, 235 00:11:14,054 --> 00:11:17,212 that movies could only be seen on giant screens 236 00:11:17,300 --> 00:11:19,433 in air-conditioned theaters, and that news 237 00:11:19,521 --> 00:11:23,917 could only be delivered via black newsprint on white paper. 238 00:11:24,106 --> 00:11:25,890 Flying cars. 239 00:11:26,446 --> 00:11:28,927 Anybody here think we'll ever see them? 240 00:11:30,534 --> 00:11:32,306 In our lifetime? 241 00:11:34,484 --> 00:11:36,235 Maybe we got a live one. 242 00:11:36,323 --> 00:11:38,368 Well, don't anybody get their hopes up. 243 00:11:38,456 --> 00:11:39,980 David Murphy is a financial planner, 244 00:11:40,068 --> 00:11:41,983 considers himself fiscally conservative. 245 00:11:42,170 --> 00:11:44,781 Doesn't seem like he'd fit the bill. 246 00:11:44,868 --> 00:11:47,784 Well, you might be right. You might be wrong. 247 00:11:47,871 --> 00:11:50,656 Hard to know without getting a peek at his belief system. 248 00:11:52,049 --> 00:11:55,835 So you're thinking, one of these days, you'll be hovering 249 00:11:55,922 --> 00:11:58,577 over Fifth Avenue in your brand-new convertible. 250 00:11:58,664 --> 00:12:00,231 Something like that. 251 00:12:00,492 --> 00:12:02,186 And please don't take this the wrong way, 252 00:12:02,274 --> 00:12:04,454 but you look like you've been around a while. 253 00:12:04,714 --> 00:12:06,759 Like you've seen a thing or two. 254 00:12:06,846 --> 00:12:10,126 Where does all of this fanciful optimism come from? 255 00:12:10,276 --> 00:12:12,165 It's not fanciful optimism at all. 256 00:12:12,431 --> 00:12:15,028 It's more like once bitten, twice shy. 257 00:12:15,115 --> 00:12:16,639 Ah. How do you mean? 258 00:12:16,892 --> 00:12:18,467 Well, 20 years ago or so, 259 00:12:18,554 --> 00:12:20,817 a man came to me for some investment capital. 260 00:12:20,904 --> 00:12:23,820 He wanted to put it in a new company he was starting. 261 00:12:23,907 --> 00:12:26,616 Said he was gonna sell books over the Internet. 262 00:12:26,851 --> 00:12:30,325 I absolutely did not understand. I asked him, 263 00:12:30,413 --> 00:12:33,059 "How are the books going to come out of the computer? 264 00:12:33,147 --> 00:12:34,831 "Are they, are they gonna ooze out of the slot 265 00:12:34,918 --> 00:12:36,441 for the f-floppy disk?" 266 00:12:36,528 --> 00:12:38,878 I-I basically threw him out of my office. 267 00:12:38,965 --> 00:12:43,492 Do you know how rich I'd be if I had just been a better listener? 268 00:12:43,579 --> 00:12:45,450 Can we clone this guy? 269 00:12:45,661 --> 00:12:47,518 Your Honor, this juror is acceptable 270 00:12:47,606 --> 00:12:49,335 to the defense. 271 00:12:49,933 --> 00:12:50,934 What about you? 272 00:12:51,021 --> 00:12:52,240 What about me? 273 00:12:52,327 --> 00:12:54,633 I read you dropped out of college. 274 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:55,895 I did. 275 00:12:55,997 --> 00:12:58,771 I had this idea for the Freshwater Honeycomb 276 00:12:58,882 --> 00:13:01,505 and I didn't want to wait four years to get going on it. 277 00:13:01,593 --> 00:13:03,989 Well, the prosecution is gonna try and use 278 00:13:04,077 --> 00:13:05,775 your lack of formal education as proof 279 00:13:05,886 --> 00:13:08,128 that you don't really know what you're talking about. 280 00:13:08,216 --> 00:13:09,969 And then they're gonna bring in a bunch of experts, 281 00:13:10,056 --> 00:13:12,034 like your ex-employee Derek Goodman, 282 00:13:12,122 --> 00:13:14,827 that have all kinds of degrees and doctorates 283 00:13:14,914 --> 00:13:17,925 and associations with institutions of higher learning, 284 00:13:18,013 --> 00:13:20,966 and they are going to testify that you are just plain wrong. 285 00:13:21,054 --> 00:13:23,183 Sounds delightful. That's why I want 286 00:13:23,271 --> 00:13:25,888 to use voir dire to undermine that assertion. 287 00:13:26,083 --> 00:13:27,208 I'm sorry. You lost me. 288 00:13:27,311 --> 00:13:28,473 What assertion? 289 00:13:28,591 --> 00:13:30,015 That there is a correlation 290 00:13:30,103 --> 00:13:32,591 between the amount of education one receives 291 00:13:32,976 --> 00:13:35,036 and one's ability to innovate. 292 00:13:35,435 --> 00:13:37,328 To see beyond what is there 293 00:13:37,415 --> 00:13:40,489 and imagine a thing that's not there yet. 294 00:13:40,740 --> 00:13:43,565 And I want to put that idea out there 295 00:13:43,653 --> 00:13:45,583 before the trial even starts. 296 00:13:45,764 --> 00:13:48,216 How many people think there's a relationship 297 00:13:48,304 --> 00:13:50,987 between the amount of time one spends 298 00:13:51,075 --> 00:13:52,996 getting a college education 299 00:13:53,083 --> 00:13:55,303 and their ability to change the world? 300 00:13:58,795 --> 00:14:01,319 So, Henry Ford. 301 00:14:01,680 --> 00:14:04,864 The founder of the Ford Motor Company 302 00:14:04,927 --> 00:14:07,964 and one of the earliest proponents of the assembly line, 303 00:14:08,052 --> 00:14:10,584 which ushered in the age of mass production. 304 00:14:10,997 --> 00:14:12,172 Lots of college? 305 00:14:12,371 --> 00:14:15,058 I don't know. Did they even have college back then? 306 00:14:15,146 --> 00:14:16,808 I assure you they did. 307 00:14:16,895 --> 00:14:19,081 Well, then, yeah. I would suppose so. 308 00:14:19,169 --> 00:14:22,653 Actually, he never went. Not a single day. 309 00:14:22,857 --> 00:14:25,099 How about Coco Chanel? 310 00:14:25,239 --> 00:14:28,917 Here is a woman who not only revolutionized 311 00:14:29,005 --> 00:14:30,636 fashion in her day, 312 00:14:30,724 --> 00:14:35,261 but really sort of created the concept of branding, 313 00:14:35,348 --> 00:14:38,874 the idea of putting her name on a variety of products. 314 00:14:39,208 --> 00:14:40,755 Did she go to college? 315 00:14:41,114 --> 00:14:43,604 Why are you picking on me? I-I don't know. 316 00:14:43,692 --> 00:14:45,358 All-all these people are from a long time ago. 317 00:14:45,445 --> 00:14:47,112 True, true, true. 318 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,552 A-And by the way, she never went to college. 319 00:14:49,724 --> 00:14:52,956 She grew up in an orphanage where she learned how to sew, 320 00:14:53,044 --> 00:14:56,325 and that was pretty much the extent of her formal education. 321 00:14:56,474 --> 00:14:59,050 All right, so, let me give you some 322 00:14:59,138 --> 00:15:00,417 contemporary names. 323 00:15:00,630 --> 00:15:02,245 Steve Jobs. You ever heard of him? 324 00:15:02,395 --> 00:15:04,473 The computer guy? Yeah, sure. 325 00:15:04,638 --> 00:15:05,988 He probably went to a bunch of colleges. 326 00:15:06,075 --> 00:15:09,426 Nope. Went to one, never graduated. 327 00:15:09,724 --> 00:15:11,950 So my question to you is simple. 328 00:15:12,037 --> 00:15:15,519 Do you think, just because someone has a bunch of degrees, 329 00:15:15,607 --> 00:15:17,567 that that makes them an expert? 330 00:15:17,669 --> 00:15:19,479 Or that, uh, sometimes, 331 00:15:19,700 --> 00:15:23,956 maybe when someone doesn't have the best education, 332 00:15:24,044 --> 00:15:25,964 they have something else? 333 00:15:26,169 --> 00:15:28,388 A vision of the future maybe? 334 00:15:28,638 --> 00:15:31,841 And that they may have something unique 335 00:15:31,950 --> 00:15:34,591 and wonderful to offer mankind? 336 00:15:35,075 --> 00:15:38,271 Yeah. I think there are people like that, definitely. 337 00:15:40,543 --> 00:15:42,371 ♪ You feel like summertime... ♪ 338 00:15:42,459 --> 00:15:43,895 - Excuse me. - Sorry, excuse me. 339 00:15:43,982 --> 00:15:44,896 Thanks. 340 00:15:44,983 --> 00:15:49,114 ♪ You took this heart of mine 341 00:15:49,528 --> 00:15:52,857 ♪ You'll be my valentine 342 00:15:52,945 --> 00:15:54,788 ♪ In the summer 343 00:15:55,161 --> 00:15:58,431 ♪ In the summer ♪ 344 00:15:58,895 --> 00:16:01,143 ♪ You are my only one 345 00:16:03,393 --> 00:16:06,278 ♪ Just dancin', havin' fun... 346 00:16:06,638 --> 00:16:08,097 Hi. This is Anna. 347 00:16:08,185 --> 00:16:10,065 Leave me a message and I'll call you right back. 348 00:16:11,864 --> 00:16:14,136 Hey, little girl. 349 00:16:14,333 --> 00:16:15,528 It's your dad. 350 00:16:15,988 --> 00:16:18,872 Uh, I'm standing in front of your dorm room door. 351 00:16:19,161 --> 00:16:21,183 Uh, kind of thought we had agreed to get together 352 00:16:21,294 --> 00:16:23,583 and celebrate some of your good news, but, uh... 353 00:16:23,942 --> 00:16:26,440 Anyway, I-I brought you a gift. 354 00:16:26,528 --> 00:16:28,558 But it looks like you're not here. 355 00:16:28,646 --> 00:16:30,365 Could you give me a call back and let me know 356 00:16:30,452 --> 00:16:32,065 if we're still good for tonight? 357 00:16:32,544 --> 00:16:35,120 Or just that you're okay? 358 00:16:35,325 --> 00:16:36,862 It's 7:15. 359 00:16:36,950 --> 00:16:38,535 I can stand here for another couple minutes 360 00:16:38,622 --> 00:16:40,349 if you want to call me back. 361 00:16:41,185 --> 00:16:42,432 Love you. 362 00:16:42,519 --> 00:16:44,919 ♪ Do love me, do love me, do, do love me, do love me, do... ♪ 363 00:16:47,002 --> 00:16:49,395 ♪ Do love me, do love me, do♪♪ Oh 364 00:16:49,482 --> 00:16:51,093 ♪ Do love me, do love me, do ♪ 365 00:16:51,180 --> 00:16:52,268 ♪ I need you 366 00:16:52,355 --> 00:16:53,617 ♪ Do love me, do love me, do ♪ 367 00:16:53,704 --> 00:16:54,894 ♪ Do love me, do love me, do ♪ 368 00:16:54,982 --> 00:16:57,872 ♪ Hoo! 369 00:16:57,997 --> 00:17:01,973 ♪ Is it summertime magic 370 00:17:02,435 --> 00:17:06,982 ♪ That makes me want to dance all night long? ♪ 371 00:17:07,550 --> 00:17:09,552 ♪ It's your summertime magic. 372 00:17:14,013 --> 00:17:17,155 We started testing our Freshwater Honeycomb 373 00:17:17,243 --> 00:17:18,653 about seven months ago, 374 00:17:18,741 --> 00:17:22,130 trying to replicate how it would be used in a municipal setting. 375 00:17:22,218 --> 00:17:25,263 The pressure with which the water hits the filter 376 00:17:25,442 --> 00:17:27,208 is controlled by a combination 377 00:17:27,296 --> 00:17:29,966 of volume, speed, and pipe diameter. 378 00:17:30,152 --> 00:17:32,458 Using a pipe 60 inches wide, 379 00:17:32,546 --> 00:17:37,599 we noted that at 477 gallons per second, the filter did its job. 380 00:17:37,716 --> 00:17:38,765 The problem 381 00:17:38,853 --> 00:17:41,090 started to manifest when we tried to push through 382 00:17:41,178 --> 00:17:44,443 more than 477 gallons per second. 383 00:17:44,531 --> 00:17:47,098 The filter itself starts to disintegrate. 384 00:17:47,231 --> 00:17:50,626 The cellulose material and the filament that holds it together 385 00:17:50,729 --> 00:17:53,317 would start to appear in the supposedly clean water 386 00:17:53,405 --> 00:17:55,146 as microparticles. 387 00:17:55,281 --> 00:17:58,841 Invisible to the naked eye but in the water nonetheless. 388 00:17:59,011 --> 00:18:02,243 Effectively, the filter was no longer cleaning the water 389 00:18:02,331 --> 00:18:03,536 but actually polluting it, 390 00:18:03,624 --> 00:18:05,365 making it dangerous to drink. 391 00:18:05,770 --> 00:18:07,966 Once those materials hit the human stomach, 392 00:18:08,061 --> 00:18:10,521 they could very well tear it apart. 393 00:18:10,609 --> 00:18:13,466 Ah. And as director of research, 394 00:18:13,554 --> 00:18:15,730 who did you share these findings with? 395 00:18:15,909 --> 00:18:17,693 Um, the defendant. 396 00:18:17,999 --> 00:18:21,989 So you don't believe anything you said had any impact on her? 397 00:18:22,077 --> 00:18:23,458 Well, just the fact 398 00:18:23,546 --> 00:18:25,903 that she was continuing to court investors. 399 00:18:25,991 --> 00:18:28,123 Telling them that we were 90 days away 400 00:18:28,211 --> 00:18:31,239 when I was plainly telling her that what she was promising 401 00:18:31,327 --> 00:18:33,896 was not possible on any timetable. 402 00:18:34,450 --> 00:18:35,653 Thank you. 403 00:18:35,741 --> 00:18:36,888 Nothing further. 404 00:18:36,976 --> 00:18:37,997 I'm guessing 405 00:18:38,085 --> 00:18:40,043 you already know what I'm about to tell you. 406 00:18:40,761 --> 00:18:42,589 I could read this jury on a moonless night 407 00:18:42,676 --> 00:18:44,461 with a blindfold on. 408 00:18:44,548 --> 00:18:46,211 Good morning, Mr. Goodman. 409 00:18:46,299 --> 00:18:47,711 - Doctor. - Ah. 410 00:18:47,814 --> 00:18:50,469 Doctor. My apologies. 411 00:18:50,570 --> 00:18:52,593 And you are a doctor in what? 412 00:18:52,737 --> 00:18:55,961 Well, I have a doctorate in civil engineering as well 413 00:18:56,049 --> 00:18:59,906 as a second doctorate in arid lands resource sciences. 414 00:18:59,994 --> 00:19:02,649 Wow. That is impressive. 415 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,273 Sounds like you know a lot about desalination. 416 00:19:06,361 --> 00:19:07,937 Well, I do pride myself on being 417 00:19:08,025 --> 00:19:09,570 something of an expert in my field. 418 00:19:09,733 --> 00:19:14,531 Terrific. So it's reasonable to assume that you know 419 00:19:14,654 --> 00:19:17,656 everything there is to know about, uh, seawater 420 00:19:17,777 --> 00:19:20,218 - and desalination and... - Well, I don't think 421 00:19:20,306 --> 00:19:22,890 anyone knows everything about anything. 422 00:19:23,091 --> 00:19:24,397 Great point. 423 00:19:24,624 --> 00:19:28,312 So, when you say no one could scale up 424 00:19:28,406 --> 00:19:29,945 the Freshwater Honeycomb 425 00:19:30,033 --> 00:19:33,334 for use in municipal water purification application, 426 00:19:33,422 --> 00:19:35,218 what you're really trying to say is, 427 00:19:35,353 --> 00:19:38,704 "I," meaning you, "couldn't scale up 428 00:19:38,814 --> 00:19:40,816 "the Freshwater Honeycomb 429 00:19:40,904 --> 00:19:43,312 for use in municipal water purification applications." 430 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:44,570 Isn't that correct? 431 00:19:44,682 --> 00:19:47,187 Objection. Asked and answered. 432 00:19:47,275 --> 00:19:48,625 - Your Honor. - Badgering the witness. 433 00:19:48,712 --> 00:19:50,062 - Your Honor... - Save your breath, 434 00:19:50,149 --> 00:19:51,325 Mr. Colón. 435 00:19:51,688 --> 00:19:53,554 The question has not been asked and answered. 436 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:55,879 And the counselor is not badgering the witness. 437 00:19:55,967 --> 00:19:56,882 Objection overruled. 438 00:19:56,970 --> 00:19:58,257 Ask your question again. 439 00:19:58,345 --> 00:20:00,906 Isn't it true, Dr. Goodman, that all you can say 440 00:20:00,994 --> 00:20:04,070 with any certainty is that you couldn't do it? 441 00:20:04,451 --> 00:20:06,148 You couldn't scale it up? 442 00:20:06,390 --> 00:20:07,851 Ooh. 443 00:20:07,939 --> 00:20:11,836 What is that I'm feeling? Could it be attitudes shifting? 444 00:20:12,609 --> 00:20:14,632 Yes. I mean, 445 00:20:14,742 --> 00:20:17,328 for all you know, there could be some kid 446 00:20:17,416 --> 00:20:19,648 sitting in his or her garage right now 447 00:20:19,736 --> 00:20:20,883 with just the fix for this thing. 448 00:20:21,266 --> 00:20:22,781 I doubt it. I didn't ask you 449 00:20:22,869 --> 00:20:24,062 if you doubted it. 450 00:20:24,150 --> 00:20:27,588 I had asked if what I am saying right now is possible. 451 00:20:27,776 --> 00:20:29,604 If a solution is possible. 452 00:20:30,175 --> 00:20:31,961 I suppose anything is possible. 453 00:20:32,049 --> 00:20:33,242 Exactly. 454 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,851 Anything is possible. 455 00:20:36,719 --> 00:20:38,257 Sir, how much do you stand to make 456 00:20:38,345 --> 00:20:40,898 if the government wins this case? 457 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,544 Isn't it true that if the government prevails 458 00:20:44,632 --> 00:20:48,062 in this case, as a whistleblower, 459 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:49,945 you stand to profit? 460 00:20:50,585 --> 00:20:52,484 Actually make some real money? 461 00:20:53,494 --> 00:20:54,713 I'm sorry. 462 00:20:54,808 --> 00:20:56,565 Let me put it another way. 463 00:20:57,915 --> 00:21:01,390 Isn't it true that you stood to make considerably more 464 00:21:01,510 --> 00:21:06,117 by not finishing your work and leaving the company 465 00:21:06,205 --> 00:21:09,588 and turning state's evidence than if you'd stayed 466 00:21:09,676 --> 00:21:12,147 and done the job you'd originally been hired to do? 467 00:21:12,235 --> 00:21:15,953 I mean, we're talking millions, right? 468 00:21:16,095 --> 00:21:17,401 Objection. 469 00:21:17,489 --> 00:21:18,650 Relevance? 470 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:19,980 No, that's all right, Your Honor. 471 00:21:20,067 --> 00:21:21,851 I withdraw the question. 472 00:21:22,254 --> 00:21:24,909 I think the jury could connect the dots. 473 00:21:25,317 --> 00:21:27,648 Nothing further. 474 00:21:32,370 --> 00:21:34,726 What's going on over there? 475 00:21:35,125 --> 00:21:38,015 Looks like you're having a troublesome bowel movement. 476 00:21:38,330 --> 00:21:40,093 You did great, Benny. 477 00:21:40,295 --> 00:21:41,875 We got 'em on the run. 478 00:21:42,580 --> 00:21:46,015 I think you're mistaking a momentary change of fortune 479 00:21:46,103 --> 00:21:48,061 for a real victory. 480 00:21:49,316 --> 00:21:52,203 That was, that was everything. 481 00:21:52,726 --> 00:21:54,728 That's our whole defense. 482 00:21:54,816 --> 00:21:56,468 I've got nothing else to fight with. 483 00:21:56,556 --> 00:21:58,123 Don't be ridiculous. 484 00:21:58,211 --> 00:22:01,170 Tomorrow we present our case. We put Whitney on the stand. 485 00:22:01,375 --> 00:22:04,929 Did you see those YouTube videos I sent you? 486 00:22:05,676 --> 00:22:08,418 Girl could sell sawdust to a lumber mill. 487 00:22:11,491 --> 00:22:15,476 She's just trying to finance her dream, and that is not a crime. 488 00:22:15,564 --> 00:22:16,739 But, Bull, 489 00:22:17,750 --> 00:22:20,804 the law does not differentiate 490 00:22:20,892 --> 00:22:23,547 between a run-of-the-mill lie 491 00:22:23,808 --> 00:22:26,724 and a lie for a worthwhile dream. 492 00:22:26,812 --> 00:22:29,815 To the law, it's all a lie. 493 00:22:29,939 --> 00:22:31,765 It's all a fraud. 494 00:22:33,456 --> 00:22:36,285 Come on, Bull, you saw that film. 495 00:22:37,491 --> 00:22:41,174 The most current version of this thing 496 00:22:41,262 --> 00:22:43,722 disintegrates before water starts flowing 497 00:22:43,810 --> 00:22:47,323 at anything approaching the required speed. 498 00:22:47,732 --> 00:22:50,667 There's no way she didn't know she was lying, 499 00:22:51,155 --> 00:22:52,896 and that's fraud. 500 00:22:53,210 --> 00:22:56,692 So, everybody, we've all been working very hard 501 00:22:56,780 --> 00:22:58,769 trying to pull this together for you 502 00:22:58,926 --> 00:23:00,972 and Benny and the client. 503 00:23:01,060 --> 00:23:04,107 Uh, why don't we let Taylor start? 504 00:23:04,435 --> 00:23:05,698 Thanks. 505 00:23:06,575 --> 00:23:08,490 Uh, some 506 00:23:08,867 --> 00:23:11,870 little bumps in the road we need to discuss. 507 00:23:11,958 --> 00:23:13,917 So glad you're going first. 508 00:23:14,339 --> 00:23:16,886 Whitney didn't, in fact, drop out early 509 00:23:16,974 --> 00:23:18,659 to pursue her Freshwater Honeycomb dreams 510 00:23:18,747 --> 00:23:21,968 like she told us, like she told every reporter 511 00:23:22,056 --> 00:23:23,579 who's ever done a story about her. 512 00:23:24,386 --> 00:23:25,823 She had to leave. 513 00:23:26,013 --> 00:23:28,456 - They made her leave. - Because? 514 00:23:28,544 --> 00:23:30,285 Because she was in arrears. 515 00:23:30,486 --> 00:23:32,096 She had a habit of writing tuition 516 00:23:32,184 --> 00:23:33,925 and housing checks that bounced. 517 00:23:34,013 --> 00:23:36,089 The school would give her second and third chances 518 00:23:36,177 --> 00:23:37,222 to make good on her bills, 519 00:23:37,310 --> 00:23:39,660 offered her campus jobs to make money, 520 00:23:39,748 --> 00:23:41,362 but she'd no sooner pay off one bad debt 521 00:23:41,450 --> 00:23:43,148 and then write another worthless check. 522 00:23:43,488 --> 00:23:44,837 Finally, they had enough. 523 00:23:45,370 --> 00:23:46,878 I'm sorry, Bull. 524 00:23:47,305 --> 00:23:49,073 You think the prosecution knows? 525 00:23:49,161 --> 00:23:50,878 Who cares? I think you guys are making 526 00:23:51,084 --> 00:23:52,346 a mountain out of a molehill. 527 00:23:52,783 --> 00:23:56,091 Well, I don't agree. It's not a molehill. 528 00:23:56,468 --> 00:23:58,426 Writing bad checks, that's fraud. 529 00:23:58,513 --> 00:24:01,299 That's the exact crime she's being accused of right now. 530 00:24:01,394 --> 00:24:03,270 You're forgetting her father had died. 531 00:24:03,523 --> 00:24:06,786 They'd lost the family farm. Of course money was an issue. 532 00:24:07,351 --> 00:24:09,021 Did she pay the college back? 533 00:24:09,109 --> 00:24:11,416 Did everybody get everything they were owed? 534 00:24:11,789 --> 00:24:13,878 Yes. Eventually. 535 00:24:14,184 --> 00:24:16,143 Probably with the salary she paid herself 536 00:24:16,231 --> 00:24:17,974 after the investors came on board. 537 00:24:18,062 --> 00:24:19,107 I'm confused. 538 00:24:19,195 --> 00:24:22,544 Are we trying to prove her guilt or prove her innocence? 539 00:24:22,632 --> 00:24:24,156 Hit me with a real problem. 540 00:24:24,323 --> 00:24:26,801 Guess that's my cue. Uh, so I went upstate 541 00:24:26,889 --> 00:24:30,501 to see her mother today, with no help from Whitney, I might add. 542 00:24:30,912 --> 00:24:32,122 What does that mean? 543 00:24:32,210 --> 00:24:33,820 Well, I asked her for her mother's info 544 00:24:34,027 --> 00:24:36,341 the day she came in here, and she never sent it. 545 00:24:36,595 --> 00:24:38,510 Finally had to figure it out on my own. 546 00:24:38,598 --> 00:24:39,858 And? 547 00:24:39,956 --> 00:24:42,161 And she wouldn't talk to me. 548 00:24:42,715 --> 00:24:43,805 The neighbors seem to think 549 00:24:43,893 --> 00:24:45,721 Whitney might be paying the bills. 550 00:24:45,809 --> 00:24:48,594 She got a new car, had the house painted last spring. 551 00:24:48,966 --> 00:24:50,847 Where are you going with this? 552 00:24:50,935 --> 00:24:53,351 Again, I'm talking to the neighbors, 553 00:24:53,529 --> 00:24:55,177 and according to them, 554 00:24:55,819 --> 00:24:57,777 Whitney's family never owned a farm. 555 00:24:58,206 --> 00:25:00,052 And her father 556 00:25:00,140 --> 00:25:03,448 worked on a farm, but he didn't die of dehydration. 557 00:25:03,900 --> 00:25:06,842 His blue jeans got caught in a combine machine. 558 00:25:06,980 --> 00:25:08,441 It pulled him in and chewed him up 559 00:25:08,529 --> 00:25:10,705 before anyone could, uh, shut it off. 560 00:25:12,987 --> 00:25:15,019 What time are we due in court tomorrow? 561 00:25:15,114 --> 00:25:17,813 - We reconvene after lunch. -00. 562 00:25:17,901 --> 00:25:19,424 Okay. Reach out to Whitney. 563 00:25:19,512 --> 00:25:23,089 Tell her I want to meet her here tomorrow morning, 10:00 a.m. 564 00:25:23,291 --> 00:25:25,472 Okay. And somebody find 565 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,562 a polygraph examiner. 566 00:25:27,947 --> 00:25:29,775 I want to do a little work with Whitney. 567 00:25:29,863 --> 00:25:32,692 You want to examine her with a lie detector? 568 00:25:33,128 --> 00:25:36,000 You do know that those tests are not admissible in court. 569 00:25:36,628 --> 00:25:40,573 It's not for court. It's for me. 570 00:25:42,495 --> 00:25:43,877 Was it something I said? 571 00:25:43,965 --> 00:25:48,563 It's just a technique we use to prepare clients to testify. 572 00:25:48,651 --> 00:25:51,548 See which questions make you anxious. 573 00:25:51,636 --> 00:25:53,698 Identify any possible triggers. 574 00:25:53,807 --> 00:25:57,081 Okay. Sort of surprised Dr. Bull isn't here. 575 00:25:57,245 --> 00:25:59,845 Well, he will be reviewing the results 576 00:25:59,933 --> 00:26:02,042 before we go into court this afternoon. 577 00:26:02,155 --> 00:26:04,253 I'm sure he'll have a conversation with you 578 00:26:04,341 --> 00:26:05,714 about it before you testify. 579 00:26:05,824 --> 00:26:08,087 I'm amazed she agreed to do this. 580 00:26:08,174 --> 00:26:09,800 She's got to know we're onto her. 581 00:26:09,958 --> 00:26:11,699 Well, it's a good sign. 582 00:26:11,786 --> 00:26:14,206 It means she thinks she has nothing to hide. 583 00:26:14,339 --> 00:26:15,433 All right, 584 00:26:15,521 --> 00:26:17,045 let's get this show on the road. 585 00:26:17,140 --> 00:26:18,207 Good morning. 586 00:26:18,294 --> 00:26:19,948 Is your name Whitney Holland? 587 00:26:20,089 --> 00:26:21,135 Yes. 588 00:26:21,231 --> 00:26:23,102 Are you 26 years old? 589 00:26:23,189 --> 00:26:24,269 Yes. 590 00:26:24,403 --> 00:26:26,409 Ask her if she grew up on a farm. 591 00:26:26,671 --> 00:26:28,589 Did you grow up on a farm? 592 00:26:31,651 --> 00:26:33,199 I grew up near a farm. 593 00:26:33,558 --> 00:26:35,659 I need you to answer yes or no. 594 00:26:35,890 --> 00:26:36,979 No. 595 00:26:37,247 --> 00:26:38,995 I did not grow up on a farm. 596 00:26:39,089 --> 00:26:41,058 Ask her if her father died of a heart attack. 597 00:26:41,188 --> 00:26:43,511 Did your father die of a heart attack? 598 00:26:46,896 --> 00:26:48,201 No. 599 00:26:49,392 --> 00:26:50,922 - In a field? - In a field? 600 00:26:51,019 --> 00:26:52,103 During a heat wave? 601 00:26:52,198 --> 00:26:53,854 - During a heat wave? - Of dehydration and sunstroke? 602 00:26:53,941 --> 00:26:56,465 - Of dehydration and sunstroke? - Trying to save his crops and animals? 603 00:26:56,552 --> 00:26:57,992 Trying to save his crops and animals? 604 00:26:59,964 --> 00:27:01,401 No, he did not. 605 00:27:02,847 --> 00:27:04,524 He died in an accident involving 606 00:27:04,612 --> 00:27:06,417 some farm machinery. 607 00:27:06,505 --> 00:27:08,072 Well, there goes your defense. 608 00:27:08,582 --> 00:27:12,009 If she knew she was lying when she told people those things, 609 00:27:12,097 --> 00:27:13,935 then there's criminal intent. 610 00:27:14,023 --> 00:27:15,925 Game over. 611 00:27:17,127 --> 00:27:18,939 Ask her if the Freshwater Honeycomb 612 00:27:19,027 --> 00:27:20,931 will ever actually be able to... 613 00:27:21,019 --> 00:27:24,105 ...purify enough water for a small municipality. 614 00:27:25,776 --> 00:27:27,355 Absolutely. 615 00:27:27,691 --> 00:27:29,862 - A large city? - A large city? 616 00:27:30,019 --> 00:27:31,214 Without a doubt. 617 00:27:31,549 --> 00:27:34,503 Are you 90 days away from being able to prove that? 618 00:27:34,611 --> 00:27:36,251 And are you 90 days away 619 00:27:36,339 --> 00:27:38,046 from being able to prove that? 620 00:27:39,650 --> 00:27:41,120 I don't know. 621 00:27:42,526 --> 00:27:43,776 Possibly. 622 00:27:43,987 --> 00:27:46,751 If the government will let me continue my work. 623 00:27:49,682 --> 00:27:51,553 What are you smiling about? 624 00:27:54,456 --> 00:27:56,228 Hi, this is Anna. 625 00:27:56,316 --> 00:27:57,939 Leave me a message and I'll call you right back. 626 00:27:59,198 --> 00:28:02,767 Hi, Anna. It's Dad again. 627 00:28:03,284 --> 00:28:05,712 Listen, I-I know you said that you needed a couple of days, 628 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,087 but, um, well, see, I'm trying to help out with 629 00:28:08,175 --> 00:28:11,079 this travel stuff. You know, passports, doctor visits, 630 00:28:11,166 --> 00:28:14,220 but I feel a little funny setting them up 631 00:28:14,308 --> 00:28:15,517 and I haven't talked to you. 632 00:28:15,605 --> 00:28:16,998 Call me back, please? 633 00:28:17,283 --> 00:28:19,441 Thanks. Love you. 634 00:28:25,072 --> 00:28:26,137 Kids. 635 00:28:26,620 --> 00:28:27,966 Where do they come from? 636 00:28:28,253 --> 00:28:29,870 Tell me about it. 637 00:28:31,042 --> 00:28:32,392 Were you ever 19? 638 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,376 Nope. Went straight from old enough to vote 639 00:28:35,464 --> 00:28:37,417 to bitter divorcée. 640 00:28:38,315 --> 00:28:41,022 Whatever it is, it's gonna be fine. 641 00:28:41,464 --> 00:28:44,287 I know. Intellectually, I know that, 642 00:28:44,374 --> 00:28:48,532 but... it's just that I-I wasn't there to be her parent 643 00:28:48,620 --> 00:28:53,620 for so long, and now I'm here and I'm ready and I'm proud, 644 00:28:53,839 --> 00:28:56,995 but she's getting older, and so, for whatever reason, 645 00:28:57,346 --> 00:29:00,041 she's not wanting a parent right now, 646 00:29:00,370 --> 00:29:02,221 and it makes me crazy. 647 00:29:02,714 --> 00:29:04,487 This, too, will pass. 648 00:29:21,909 --> 00:29:24,323 You look like the cat who ate the canary 649 00:29:24,643 --> 00:29:27,634 and then decided what he really wanted was fish. 650 00:29:29,253 --> 00:29:31,659 I can't make up my mind about you. 651 00:29:32,003 --> 00:29:33,805 Do you lie to hide the truth, 652 00:29:33,893 --> 00:29:35,854 or tell the truth to hide your lies? 653 00:29:36,065 --> 00:29:39,596 I always tell the truth, except when I'm selling myself. 654 00:29:39,728 --> 00:29:41,735 Then I do my best to tell a good story. 655 00:29:41,823 --> 00:29:43,321 People appreciate a good story 656 00:29:43,409 --> 00:29:44,720 when they're being sold something. 657 00:29:44,807 --> 00:29:47,437 A product, a person, an idea. 658 00:29:47,862 --> 00:29:49,656 Especially an idea that doesn't exist yet. 659 00:29:49,743 --> 00:29:51,397 Like a desalination filter? 660 00:29:52,151 --> 00:29:55,575 Like many things, like gravity. 661 00:29:56,198 --> 00:29:59,187 Story is, an apple fell on Sir Isaac Newton's head, 662 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,277 but that didn't really happen. 663 00:30:01,557 --> 00:30:04,518 Turns out, he was sitting under a different tree 664 00:30:04,792 --> 00:30:07,326 when he saw the apple fall off another tree, 665 00:30:07,413 --> 00:30:09,628 the one he wasn't sitting under. 666 00:30:09,901 --> 00:30:12,253 It's not nearly as good a story, 667 00:30:12,768 --> 00:30:15,922 but the myth about the apple hitting him in the head 668 00:30:16,010 --> 00:30:19,077 doesn't do anything to diminish the importance of his theory, 669 00:30:19,164 --> 00:30:20,861 the importance of his discovery. 670 00:30:20,948 --> 00:30:23,040 Clearly, people prefer the myth to the truth 671 00:30:23,128 --> 00:30:24,542 or they wouldn't keep repeating it. 672 00:30:24,893 --> 00:30:26,961 Just because my father didn't die 673 00:30:27,049 --> 00:30:29,626 in the middle of a drought doesn't change the fact 674 00:30:29,714 --> 00:30:33,565 that my filter can and will do what I claim. 675 00:30:34,807 --> 00:30:36,660 And what about the 90 days? 676 00:30:36,995 --> 00:30:39,861 You told investors you were 90 days away. 677 00:30:40,026 --> 00:30:41,273 That's me selling. 678 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,218 That's me exciting my investors 679 00:30:44,306 --> 00:30:46,347 and motivating my research team. 680 00:30:46,583 --> 00:30:49,908 It's like when Thomas Edison was working on his light bulb. 681 00:30:50,057 --> 00:30:52,000 He tried a thousand different materials 682 00:30:52,088 --> 00:30:54,079 before he found one that would glow without burning up, 683 00:30:54,166 --> 00:30:56,815 but one day... there it was. 684 00:30:57,115 --> 00:30:58,943 I'm just looking for the right kind of sponge, 685 00:30:59,030 --> 00:31:01,354 the right kind of filament. 686 00:31:02,017 --> 00:31:04,752 And who's to say I'm not 90 days away? 687 00:31:08,169 --> 00:31:11,197 She said to the man 688 00:31:11,463 --> 00:31:15,046 wearing completely clear eyeglasses. 689 00:31:16,569 --> 00:31:18,299 No prescription. 690 00:31:18,908 --> 00:31:21,182 To convince people of what? 691 00:31:21,416 --> 00:31:24,142 To hide from what? 692 00:31:25,563 --> 00:31:27,101 Misspent youth? 693 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,311 A face that's a tad too pretty 694 00:31:30,399 --> 00:31:32,368 to be taken seriously as a trial scientist? 695 00:31:32,455 --> 00:31:36,118 As a scientist of any kind? 696 00:31:36,493 --> 00:31:38,809 I'm not the one on trial for fraud. 697 00:31:39,243 --> 00:31:41,387 And I'm not the one who has to take the stand 698 00:31:41,475 --> 00:31:44,295 and answer questions about all those lies. 699 00:31:44,491 --> 00:31:47,069 About which I will tell the absolute truth. 700 00:31:47,288 --> 00:31:49,123 Just like I did this morning. 701 00:31:49,420 --> 00:31:51,686 That's gonna confuse the hell out of the jury. 702 00:31:51,983 --> 00:31:55,108 That's why I hired you, jury guru. 703 00:31:57,037 --> 00:32:00,133 I know you get it. I know you can explain me to them. 704 00:32:00,389 --> 00:32:02,093 And what if I can't? 705 00:32:02,897 --> 00:32:06,053 What would you suggest? I go in there and lie? 706 00:32:06,202 --> 00:32:07,584 Of course not. 707 00:32:07,751 --> 00:32:10,004 For one, you would be committing another crime, 708 00:32:10,092 --> 00:32:12,124 and for two, your attorney... My associate... 709 00:32:12,272 --> 00:32:14,397 Would never knowingly suborn perjury. 710 00:32:14,485 --> 00:32:15,332 Well, 711 00:32:15,568 --> 00:32:19,153 if you can't make my testifying to the truth work, 712 00:32:19,568 --> 00:32:22,417 tell me now so I can find new counsel. 713 00:32:28,074 --> 00:32:30,574 I know I will eventually get that filter 714 00:32:30,662 --> 00:32:32,561 to do what I need it to do. 715 00:32:34,123 --> 00:32:36,397 You really believe it, don't you? 716 00:32:40,178 --> 00:32:42,525 Well, we should head into court, then. 717 00:32:42,612 --> 00:32:45,266 And, if you wouldn't mind, 718 00:32:45,353 --> 00:32:48,006 keep the glasses thing to yourself. 719 00:32:49,571 --> 00:32:51,747 So at this point, you're working... 720 00:32:51,974 --> 00:32:53,367 In my kitchen. 721 00:32:53,697 --> 00:32:55,709 We got the water from one of the fountains 722 00:32:55,797 --> 00:32:58,748 in Prospect Park on a 90-degree day. 723 00:32:58,836 --> 00:33:01,147 I mean, it was brown. 724 00:33:01,488 --> 00:33:03,229 We ran a gallon of the water 725 00:33:03,316 --> 00:33:05,268 through our little homemade filter. 726 00:33:05,330 --> 00:33:07,115 Poured another gallon into a sterile container 727 00:33:07,202 --> 00:33:08,686 and had them both tested. 728 00:33:08,949 --> 00:33:12,649 The filtered water was everything we hoped it would be. 729 00:33:12,791 --> 00:33:15,881 It was clear, it was ready to drink. 730 00:33:16,311 --> 00:33:20,162 The other gallon was pretty damn toxic. 731 00:33:21,738 --> 00:33:24,162 It was just Derek and I at that point. 732 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,144 I don't think it's possible to hug someone 733 00:33:27,232 --> 00:33:29,659 harder than we hugged each other that day. 734 00:33:30,115 --> 00:33:31,865 So let me ask you a question. 735 00:33:32,122 --> 00:33:34,443 You had a filter that worked. 736 00:33:34,534 --> 00:33:38,668 You could have sold it to any one of a number of companies 737 00:33:38,857 --> 00:33:41,410 for use in personal drinking mugs, 738 00:33:41,498 --> 00:33:45,834 for camping, for survival kits after natural disasters? 739 00:33:46,154 --> 00:33:47,373 Yes. 740 00:33:47,936 --> 00:33:50,959 Why not just sell it and be done? 741 00:33:51,047 --> 00:33:53,240 Because it was never just about the money. 742 00:33:53,684 --> 00:33:59,006 It was, and is, about knowing there's a real problem, 743 00:33:59,420 --> 00:34:00,959 a real need, 744 00:34:01,047 --> 00:34:03,780 and realizing that you might be able to fix it. 745 00:34:03,883 --> 00:34:06,982 You might be able to make things better. 746 00:34:07,477 --> 00:34:11,740 I mean, we're all here for a reason, right? 747 00:34:12,342 --> 00:34:15,746 I mean, why did Edison's company devote all of those resources 748 00:34:15,834 --> 00:34:17,620 to developing the incandescent light bulb? 749 00:34:17,707 --> 00:34:20,311 We had candles, we had gas lights. 750 00:34:20,514 --> 00:34:23,928 I think he thought he could make things better. 751 00:34:24,235 --> 00:34:29,818 I think he thought he could... make life better. 752 00:34:30,677 --> 00:34:31,912 Thank you. 753 00:34:32,268 --> 00:34:33,505 Come on. 754 00:34:33,593 --> 00:34:35,290 "He thought he could make life better." 755 00:34:35,639 --> 00:34:37,451 Even I teared up. 756 00:34:38,544 --> 00:34:41,309 You lied to investors about the circumstances 757 00:34:41,397 --> 00:34:43,167 surrounding your father's death, didn't you? 758 00:34:44,061 --> 00:34:45,909 Yes. And, contrary 759 00:34:45,996 --> 00:34:48,147 to what you told reporters and investors, 760 00:34:48,303 --> 00:34:52,176 you didn't leave college because you were consumed with this idea 761 00:34:52,263 --> 00:34:55,310 about a revolutionary new desalination filter, 762 00:34:55,397 --> 00:34:57,530 but because you couldn't pay your bills 763 00:34:57,617 --> 00:34:59,183 and had bounced several checks. 764 00:34:59,270 --> 00:35:00,837 Isn't that right? 765 00:35:04,647 --> 00:35:07,123 Both are actually true. 766 00:35:07,225 --> 00:35:11,500 You admit you told investors that you were within months 767 00:35:11,587 --> 00:35:14,547 of having the filter field-checked and ready 768 00:35:14,634 --> 00:35:17,004 when your director of research 769 00:35:17,092 --> 00:35:18,928 indicated quite clearly 770 00:35:19,083 --> 00:35:22,075 that he felt that no further upscaling was possible 771 00:35:22,163 --> 00:35:23,947 on the Freshwater Honeycomb. 772 00:35:24,034 --> 00:35:25,383 Isn't that true? 773 00:35:25,860 --> 00:35:28,970 I didn't agree with my director of research. 774 00:35:29,375 --> 00:35:31,087 I didn't ask if you agreed. 775 00:35:31,175 --> 00:35:34,134 I was pointing out that you didn't share his assessment 776 00:35:34,222 --> 00:35:36,486 with your current or future investors, 777 00:35:36,574 --> 00:35:38,376 which feels deceptive. 778 00:35:38,464 --> 00:35:42,438 In fact, it feels like there's a pattern of deception 779 00:35:42,617 --> 00:35:43,798 at Freshwater Honeycomb. 780 00:35:43,886 --> 00:35:46,915 Objection. The witness is here to answer questions, 781 00:35:47,143 --> 00:35:48,266 not to be lectured to. 782 00:35:48,354 --> 00:35:50,233 Okay. Here's a question. 783 00:35:50,321 --> 00:35:53,100 How is your life better today 784 00:35:53,188 --> 00:35:55,229 than it was, say, three years ago, 785 00:35:55,317 --> 00:35:58,102 before investors were lavishing you with money 786 00:35:58,190 --> 00:36:00,461 in the hopes of cashing in on the success 787 00:36:00,549 --> 00:36:01,938 of Freshwater Honeycomb? 788 00:36:02,026 --> 00:36:05,160 If, by better, you mean financially, 789 00:36:05,380 --> 00:36:07,980 I have made no secret of the fact that my life 790 00:36:08,068 --> 00:36:10,288 is markedly different. 791 00:36:10,433 --> 00:36:13,262 But I'd also like to mention that those investments 792 00:36:13,357 --> 00:36:16,362 pay for 200 employee salaries. 793 00:36:16,450 --> 00:36:20,324 They pay for research tools and offices 794 00:36:20,435 --> 00:36:22,472 - and lab rentals and... - Are you a liar? 795 00:36:22,805 --> 00:36:24,488 Your Honor! 796 00:36:24,746 --> 00:36:26,443 It's a simple question. 797 00:36:30,318 --> 00:36:31,980 Not about the filter. 798 00:36:32,325 --> 00:36:34,203 Not about what I believe it can do. 799 00:36:34,291 --> 00:36:36,671 Not about the things that count. 800 00:36:36,759 --> 00:36:42,261 So we should just believe what you tell us about this filter, 801 00:36:42,386 --> 00:36:44,637 which doesn't yet exist, 802 00:36:44,871 --> 00:36:49,480 even when almost everything else you have told us is a lie? 803 00:36:51,566 --> 00:36:53,043 Yes. 804 00:36:54,183 --> 00:36:56,918 I have no further questions, your Honor. 805 00:37:05,129 --> 00:37:07,660 That was a very nice closing argument. 806 00:37:07,747 --> 00:37:11,794 Well, he wrote it. Mostly. 807 00:37:12,144 --> 00:37:13,883 It was fine. 808 00:37:14,971 --> 00:37:17,402 You know, we can appeal. 809 00:37:17,574 --> 00:37:19,628 I mean, if they find you guilty, 810 00:37:19,784 --> 00:37:22,254 we'll immediately file for an appeal. 811 00:37:22,762 --> 00:37:25,114 Not that that's a foregone conclusion, 812 00:37:25,202 --> 00:37:26,840 I'm just saying that, uh... 813 00:37:26,928 --> 00:37:30,536 Jury deliberations are funny things. 814 00:37:30,624 --> 00:37:31,903 Lots can happen. 815 00:37:31,991 --> 00:37:35,624 Uh, people start to compare notes, 816 00:37:35,858 --> 00:37:38,546 minds get changed, uh... 817 00:37:39,030 --> 00:37:41,041 It's not over till it's over. 818 00:37:46,228 --> 00:37:48,230 This is me. 819 00:37:51,008 --> 00:37:53,794 Thank you both for everything. 820 00:37:54,163 --> 00:37:57,803 Yeah. We'll give you a call the second we hear. 821 00:38:07,068 --> 00:38:08,794 I'm sorry. 822 00:38:10,037 --> 00:38:13,324 What are you sorry about? Jury's not even back yet. 823 00:38:13,412 --> 00:38:14,582 Come on, you called it. 824 00:38:14,670 --> 00:38:16,716 You called it the second she first walked 825 00:38:16,804 --> 00:38:18,187 through the door. 826 00:38:19,748 --> 00:38:21,741 It wasn't her, Bull. 827 00:38:21,864 --> 00:38:25,433 - It was... - I know. The lies. 828 00:38:26,069 --> 00:38:27,655 The untruths. 829 00:38:28,248 --> 00:38:30,411 Once the jury knows you're willing to make things up 830 00:38:30,499 --> 00:38:32,022 to get what you want... 831 00:38:33,780 --> 00:38:35,661 God, I'm arrogant. 832 00:38:36,390 --> 00:38:37,987 I thought we could get them to see 833 00:38:38,075 --> 00:38:40,951 it was just a means to an end. 834 00:38:42,340 --> 00:38:44,859 The end was so worthwhile. 835 00:38:48,193 --> 00:38:49,629 Hmm. 836 00:38:50,690 --> 00:38:53,450 You two are the same person. 837 00:38:53,645 --> 00:38:55,567 You know that, don't you? 838 00:38:56,153 --> 00:39:00,573 You set your sights on something that's almost impossible, 839 00:39:00,661 --> 00:39:04,629 and you don't let anyone talk you out of it. 840 00:39:05,573 --> 00:39:08,395 It's one of the things I love about you, man. 841 00:39:10,895 --> 00:39:13,221 Sometimes I wonder if it isn't all a lie, 842 00:39:13,309 --> 00:39:16,831 this thing we do, this jury thing. 843 00:39:17,340 --> 00:39:20,880 I mean... what was the point? 844 00:39:21,090 --> 00:39:23,455 According to Marissa, by the time the AUSA 845 00:39:23,543 --> 00:39:26,755 was done with her closing, it was a shutout. 846 00:39:27,082 --> 00:39:29,768 Was a field of red. 847 00:39:29,856 --> 00:39:31,499 And she is betting that by tomorrow morning, 848 00:39:31,586 --> 00:39:33,434 we are back in court, 849 00:39:33,806 --> 00:39:36,973 and Whitney is behind bars by tomorrow afternoon. 850 00:39:41,245 --> 00:39:44,042 I mean, I'm really no good at this at all. 851 00:39:47,776 --> 00:39:49,299 "Dear Judge Graves. 852 00:39:49,386 --> 00:39:50,993 "As you know, we have been deliberating 853 00:39:51,081 --> 00:39:52,047 "for four solid days. 854 00:39:52,135 --> 00:39:53,341 "All of us are united in our verdict 855 00:39:53,428 --> 00:39:55,104 "with the exception of one juror. 856 00:39:55,192 --> 00:39:57,370 "This juror refuses to budge, refuses to debate. 857 00:39:57,458 --> 00:40:00,073 It is difficult to see a way forward from here." 858 00:40:04,628 --> 00:40:08,003 I'm going to call everyone back into the court in an hour, 859 00:40:08,198 --> 00:40:10,277 officially declaring a mistrial. 860 00:40:10,870 --> 00:40:12,883 My assumption is you're going to want to retry this 861 00:40:12,971 --> 00:40:14,251 as quickly as possible? 862 00:40:14,339 --> 00:40:15,456 Absolutely. 863 00:40:15,775 --> 00:40:18,487 Your client, will, of course, remain out on bail. 864 00:40:18,706 --> 00:40:21,065 What's your first availability, gentlemen? 865 00:40:21,229 --> 00:40:22,593 Unfortunately, our office is booked 866 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,758 for the next seven months. 867 00:40:24,846 --> 00:40:27,212 All right, then. Seven months it is. 868 00:40:27,300 --> 00:40:28,837 I'm going to pencil it in, 869 00:40:28,925 --> 00:40:30,629 and I would hope that if things change, 870 00:40:30,717 --> 00:40:33,403 you'll let us know so that we can move this forward. 871 00:40:33,491 --> 00:40:34,981 Now go get your client 872 00:40:35,069 --> 00:40:37,389 so we can make this official. 873 00:40:39,306 --> 00:40:40,437 Seven months? 874 00:40:40,524 --> 00:40:42,439 We don't even know what our next case is. 875 00:40:43,038 --> 00:40:46,756 I ever tell you how my dad died in a tsunami in the Mojave? 876 00:40:48,397 --> 00:40:50,170 My God, in a million years, 877 00:40:50,272 --> 00:40:52,319 that is not where I saw this going. 878 00:40:52,452 --> 00:40:56,256 Well, like I told you, deliberations are a funny thing. 879 00:40:57,053 --> 00:40:59,038 But seven months? 880 00:40:59,358 --> 00:41:00,936 It seems so far away. 881 00:41:01,780 --> 00:41:05,850 I wanted to give you time to work on that filter. 882 00:41:06,505 --> 00:41:09,241 You get that thing to do the things you say it can do, 883 00:41:09,467 --> 00:41:13,397 and there is no fraud and there is no case. 884 00:41:13,938 --> 00:41:15,428 Okay. 885 00:41:16,623 --> 00:41:18,233 I appreciate that. 886 00:41:18,725 --> 00:41:22,280 But the truth is, at this point, I have no money. 887 00:41:22,483 --> 00:41:24,317 Ever since the government filed this case, 888 00:41:24,405 --> 00:41:26,527 investors have been pulling their money out. 889 00:41:26,733 --> 00:41:29,075 Creditors have been demanding payment. 890 00:41:29,163 --> 00:41:31,145 It may make more sense to just get this over with. 891 00:41:31,233 --> 00:41:32,840 That's not to say I don't appreciate 892 00:41:32,928 --> 00:41:33,926 what you're trying to do, but... 893 00:41:34,013 --> 00:41:35,420 Ms. Holland. 894 00:41:35,732 --> 00:41:37,406 Um, forgive me for intruding. 895 00:41:37,494 --> 00:41:41,051 I'm, uh, one of the jurors. Uh, the foreman, actually. 896 00:41:41,139 --> 00:41:44,536 I have to tell you, I am positively fascinated 897 00:41:44,624 --> 00:41:46,068 by what it is you're trying to do, 898 00:41:46,155 --> 00:41:49,342 and I was hoping you might be able to find room for me 899 00:41:49,467 --> 00:41:52,999 to help, perhaps provide some additional capital. 900 00:41:54,358 --> 00:41:56,700 Uh, if I'm doing something improper, 901 00:41:56,788 --> 00:41:59,116 uh, one of you will tell me, right? 902 00:41:59,412 --> 00:42:01,604 All sounds proper to me. 903 00:42:01,835 --> 00:42:03,577 I look forward to speaking with you. 904 00:42:06,940 --> 00:42:08,942 This may just work out. 905 00:42:10,764 --> 00:42:12,268 I take back what I said. 906 00:42:12,419 --> 00:42:15,335 I think I may actually be pretty good at this jury thing. 907 00:42:15,708 --> 00:42:19,498 Captioned by Media Access Group at WGBH access.wgbh.org 908 00:42:19,592 --> 00:42:22,249 Sync corrections by srjanapala