1 00:00:00,207 --> 00:00:03,057 And that will do it for the headlines for the 9:00 hour. 2 00:00:03,126 --> 00:00:05,528 We will see you back here at 9:30. 3 00:00:05,757 --> 00:00:09,067 For New York News 3, I'm Allison Rojas. 4 00:00:10,312 --> 00:00:11,436 And we're out. 5 00:00:13,722 --> 00:00:14,934 Nice broadcast. 6 00:00:14,959 --> 00:00:18,259 -Thanks. -That new shade of lipstick, that looks great on camera. 7 00:00:23,979 --> 00:00:26,065 Who would send me 8 00:00:26,148 --> 00:00:28,016 a birthday card two months before my birthday? 9 00:00:30,319 --> 00:00:31,344 Okay, this is not funny. 10 00:00:31,369 --> 00:00:33,164 -No. It's in your hair. -It's everywhere. 11 00:00:33,189 --> 00:00:35,843 -I have to be back on the air in 23 and a half minutes. -No, I'll get-get, 12 00:00:35,867 --> 00:00:36,912 Wardrobe and makeup. 13 00:00:36,937 --> 00:00:37,960 Hurry. 14 00:00:43,208 --> 00:00:46,223 Yesterday morning, my wife... she woke up achy, nauseous. 15 00:00:46,248 --> 00:00:48,433 She had a bit of a fever, said her chest hurt. 16 00:00:48,458 --> 00:00:49,761 We thought it was the flu. 17 00:00:49,786 --> 00:00:52,322 But then, today, she started coughing up blood. 18 00:00:53,049 --> 00:00:54,080 Attendant, 19 00:00:54,105 --> 00:00:55,916 -let's get her to Room One. -Yes, Doctor. 20 00:00:55,941 --> 00:00:56,960 Let's page Dr. Farmer and the chief, 21 00:00:56,985 --> 00:00:59,529 and then alert the Health Department and the CDC. 22 00:00:59,554 --> 00:01:00,680 The-the CDC? 23 00:01:00,705 --> 00:01:02,305 Center for Disease Control? What's going on? 24 00:01:02,394 --> 00:01:03,412 Government buildings 25 00:01:03,436 --> 00:01:05,271 remain closed and subway ridership 26 00:01:05,355 --> 00:01:06,999 is at its lowest level since 9/11 27 00:01:07,023 --> 00:01:09,818 as anthrax terror grips Manhattan. 28 00:01:09,901 --> 00:01:12,612 A quiet panic has descended on the city 29 00:01:12,695 --> 00:01:14,965 as New Yorkers are trying to figure out who's behind this 30 00:01:14,989 --> 00:01:15,966 and when it will end. 31 00:01:15,990 --> 00:01:19,619 At this hour, the death toll remains at two. 32 00:01:19,702 --> 00:01:21,013 The deceased are Katie Connors, 33 00:01:21,037 --> 00:01:23,265 who opened a birthday card addressed to her husband, 34 00:01:23,289 --> 00:01:26,042 Manhattan Congressman Peter Connors, 35 00:01:26,126 --> 00:01:29,504 and Emmanuel Bakry, the postal worker who delivered it. 36 00:01:29,587 --> 00:01:31,464 But, finally, some good news. 37 00:01:31,548 --> 00:01:34,592 News 3's Allison Rojas is responding to treatment 38 00:01:34,676 --> 00:01:37,137 after opening an anthrax-laden greeting card 39 00:01:37,220 --> 00:01:39,973 in this very studio more than a week ago. 40 00:01:40,056 --> 00:01:42,976 Doctors expect her and the four other News 3 staffers 41 00:01:43,059 --> 00:01:46,271 who were taken ill to make a full recovery. 42 00:02:02,412 --> 00:02:05,874 Folks, we're about to roll, so I need quiet. 43 00:02:05,957 --> 00:02:08,835 Five, four, 44 00:02:08,918 --> 00:02:11,588 three, two... 45 00:02:13,590 --> 00:02:15,467 Good afternoon from ground zero. 46 00:02:15,550 --> 00:02:18,070 Here in Manhattan we're all collectively holding our breath, 47 00:02:18,094 --> 00:02:21,014 waiting for the next anthrax-laden shoe to drop. 48 00:02:21,097 --> 00:02:23,534 With that thought in mind, we thought we'd pay a visit 49 00:02:23,558 --> 00:02:27,103 to Hudson University, which is one of the foremost laboratories 50 00:02:27,187 --> 00:02:30,023 for the study of chemical weapons and bio-pathogens. 51 00:02:30,106 --> 00:02:33,026 We wanted to talk with Dr. Roger Simpkins, 52 00:02:33,109 --> 00:02:35,820 a microbiologist and researcher who runs this lab, 53 00:02:35,904 --> 00:02:38,090 which is financed in a combination of funding 54 00:02:38,114 --> 00:02:41,034 from the university and the government. 55 00:02:41,117 --> 00:02:43,703 Dr. Simpkins, any words of wisdom 56 00:02:43,786 --> 00:02:46,414 or homespun advice for our viewers tuning in, 57 00:02:46,498 --> 00:02:49,048 missing work and school, doing everything they can 58 00:02:49,125 --> 00:02:51,711 to keep themselves from becoming a victim, 59 00:02:51,794 --> 00:02:53,880 falling ill, possibly even dying? 60 00:02:53,963 --> 00:02:55,399 The thing we all need to remember 61 00:02:55,423 --> 00:02:57,175 is that anthrax is not a virus. 62 00:02:57,258 --> 00:03:00,053 It's a bacteria, and that means you can't catch it. 63 00:03:00,136 --> 00:03:01,947 It can't be transmitted from person-to-person, 64 00:03:01,971 --> 00:03:03,949 so if you don't have direct contact with it, 65 00:03:03,973 --> 00:03:06,017 it poses no threat to you. 66 00:03:06,100 --> 00:03:08,686 So calm down. 67 00:03:08,770 --> 00:03:11,081 A-And I've been told that even if you do have direct contact, 68 00:03:11,105 --> 00:03:14,234 it's still not necessarily fatal. 69 00:03:14,317 --> 00:03:15,693 Absolutely true. 70 00:03:15,777 --> 00:03:18,905 If anthrax is identified early, it can be treated. 71 00:03:18,988 --> 00:03:21,133 What makes it tricky is early anthrax symptoms 72 00:03:21,157 --> 00:03:22,867 look just like the flu. 73 00:03:22,951 --> 00:03:24,094 So unless your doctor knows 74 00:03:24,118 --> 00:03:26,371 that you've actually had contact with it, 75 00:03:26,454 --> 00:03:29,104 the disease can go undetected until the drugs we use 76 00:03:29,165 --> 00:03:30,643 to cure it are no longer effective. 77 00:03:30,667 --> 00:03:32,502 But it's been nearly 20 years 78 00:03:32,585 --> 00:03:34,754 since the last round of anthrax incidents. 79 00:03:34,837 --> 00:03:37,149 How is it there's still no cure for this stuff? 80 00:03:37,173 --> 00:03:39,551 Well, ironically, 81 00:03:39,634 --> 00:03:42,929 last year at this time, my, colleagues and I 82 00:03:43,012 --> 00:03:45,056 were in the process of developing 83 00:03:45,139 --> 00:03:47,159 some very promising new late-stage anthrax treatments. 84 00:03:47,183 --> 00:03:48,309 Wait. 85 00:03:48,393 --> 00:03:49,602 "Were"? 86 00:03:49,686 --> 00:03:53,565 Well, our funding, particularly with regard to anthrax research, 87 00:03:53,648 --> 00:03:55,942 comes from the federal government. 88 00:03:56,025 --> 00:03:59,445 And they pulled way back this year. 89 00:03:59,529 --> 00:04:01,489 What can I tell you? 90 00:04:01,573 --> 00:04:03,199 Go write your congressman. 91 00:04:14,168 --> 00:04:16,462 The FBI is in my office. 92 00:04:16,546 --> 00:04:18,566 They've determined that the anthrax used 93 00:04:18,590 --> 00:04:20,508 in all these recent attacks 94 00:04:20,592 --> 00:04:22,635 comes from our labs. 95 00:04:24,053 --> 00:04:26,003 They want to talk to the three of you. 96 00:04:32,270 --> 00:04:34,981 What did you do? Get a second job? 97 00:04:35,064 --> 00:04:36,482 Aren't you afraid of dogs? 98 00:04:36,566 --> 00:04:38,252 Other postal workers going postal? 99 00:04:38,276 --> 00:04:39,986 Not funny. It's just my mail 100 00:04:40,069 --> 00:04:41,654 for the last couple of weeks. 101 00:04:41,738 --> 00:04:43,865 I made the post office hold it for me. 102 00:04:43,948 --> 00:04:46,010 Once I found out the FBI arrested the anthrax killer, 103 00:04:46,034 --> 00:04:47,595 I figured it was finally safe to pick it up 104 00:04:47,619 --> 00:04:48,819 and sort through it all. 105 00:04:48,870 --> 00:04:51,289 Won't be needing that anymore. 106 00:04:53,082 --> 00:04:55,084 Bull in his office? 107 00:05:03,217 --> 00:05:04,969 I'm in the middle 108 00:05:05,053 --> 00:05:08,431 of some very important procrastination. 109 00:05:09,432 --> 00:05:13,019 Hey. Sorry to interrupt. 110 00:05:13,102 --> 00:05:15,021 Why are you so glum, Mr. Colón? 111 00:05:15,104 --> 00:05:16,081 Haven't you heard? 112 00:05:16,105 --> 00:05:19,025 It's a glorious day in New York. 113 00:05:19,108 --> 00:05:21,069 Spring has sprung, 114 00:05:21,152 --> 00:05:22,862 Easter's barely a month away, 115 00:05:22,946 --> 00:05:24,590 and the anthrax killer is off the streets. 116 00:05:24,614 --> 00:05:27,909 We can put this whole dark chapter behind us. 117 00:05:27,992 --> 00:05:30,536 Well, actually, no, we can't. 118 00:05:30,620 --> 00:05:32,038 What does that mean? 119 00:05:32,121 --> 00:05:34,266 You remember, a couple of years ago, we signed up 120 00:05:34,290 --> 00:05:38,044 to be a part of that program where private firms offer 121 00:05:38,127 --> 00:05:40,922 their services to the public defender's office? 122 00:05:41,005 --> 00:05:43,883 No. I got nothing on that. 123 00:05:43,966 --> 00:05:46,111 Must have been trying to get into somebody's good graces. 124 00:05:46,135 --> 00:05:47,780 What's the difference? We offered, 125 00:05:47,804 --> 00:05:49,722 and this morning they called. 126 00:05:49,806 --> 00:05:53,226 Natalie Reznick, the accused anthrax killer, is facing 127 00:05:53,309 --> 00:05:55,954 two counts of capital murder and a slew of other charges. 128 00:05:55,978 --> 00:05:59,482 Well, she needs a defense team, and we're one of the few firms 129 00:05:59,565 --> 00:06:02,902 in the city with the expertise to handle that type of case. 130 00:06:02,985 --> 00:06:04,588 Well, just call 'em back and tell 'em no. 131 00:06:04,612 --> 00:06:07,907 I have a newborn child and you have... 132 00:06:07,990 --> 00:06:09,117 Just say that 133 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,637 we really appreciate the offer, but we are not interested 134 00:06:11,661 --> 00:06:14,372 in representing a terrorist at this time. 135 00:06:14,455 --> 00:06:15,915 An accused terrorist. 136 00:06:15,998 --> 00:06:17,959 I think you're missing the point. 137 00:06:18,042 --> 00:06:19,978 The federal defender's office wasn't asking 138 00:06:20,002 --> 00:06:21,146 when they called me this morning. 139 00:06:21,170 --> 00:06:22,380 They were telling. 140 00:06:23,381 --> 00:06:25,091 It's our case, Bull. 141 00:06:25,174 --> 00:06:26,884 Happy spring. 142 00:06:26,908 --> 00:06:28,908 BULL S04E17 - The Invisible Woman 143 00:06:28,932 --> 00:06:32,564 Synchrony by Serginhoedj 144 00:06:34,019 --> 00:06:35,729 I have no idea why I'm here. 145 00:06:35,812 --> 00:06:37,773 Surely you heard the FBI agent 146 00:06:37,856 --> 00:06:40,901 read you the charges before he took you into custody. 147 00:06:40,984 --> 00:06:43,487 You're being charged with murdering two people 148 00:06:43,570 --> 00:06:47,282 with a Tier 1 federal select biological agent 149 00:06:47,366 --> 00:06:49,451 and terrorizing the city of New York. 150 00:06:49,534 --> 00:06:53,455 Yes, of course, but wh-why would they think I would do that? 151 00:06:53,538 --> 00:06:54,641 Well, the evidence against you 152 00:06:54,665 --> 00:06:56,351 will be laid out at your arraignment, 153 00:06:56,375 --> 00:06:58,225 but based on the charging documents, 154 00:06:58,252 --> 00:06:59,896 the FBI has a pretty strong case. 155 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:01,463 How is that possible? 156 00:07:01,546 --> 00:07:03,524 Well, when the funding for your anthrax research 157 00:07:03,548 --> 00:07:04,675 was cut last year, 158 00:07:04,758 --> 00:07:06,718 you sent out dozens of e-mails. 159 00:07:06,802 --> 00:07:09,304 To journalists, to politicians. 160 00:07:09,388 --> 00:07:12,641 The very people who've been the targets in these attacks. 161 00:07:12,724 --> 00:07:15,811 Well, y-yes, b-but that's... 162 00:07:15,894 --> 00:07:17,688 that's just a coincidence. 163 00:07:17,771 --> 00:07:20,482 The-the letters that I was writing were about 164 00:07:20,565 --> 00:07:25,565 how shortsighted and dangerous it was to cut that funding. 165 00:07:25,737 --> 00:07:28,490 Just because anthrax was out of the news did not mean 166 00:07:28,573 --> 00:07:31,285 that it was no longer a risk to national security. 167 00:07:31,368 --> 00:07:32,720 Well, the U.S. Attorney's Office 168 00:07:32,744 --> 00:07:35,455 suspects that when your warnings fell on deaf ears, 169 00:07:35,539 --> 00:07:39,501 you orchestrated these attacks to prove a point. 170 00:07:39,584 --> 00:07:44,298 "Anthrax is still out there. It's still lethal." 171 00:07:44,381 --> 00:07:48,093 That's absurd. I am a doctor, I am a scientist. 172 00:07:48,176 --> 00:07:50,863 The work that my team was doing was about saving lives. 173 00:07:50,887 --> 00:07:52,597 How on earth would killing people 174 00:07:52,681 --> 00:07:54,641 help us achieve that goal? 175 00:07:54,725 --> 00:07:57,185 If that's all they had, I'd agree with you. 176 00:07:57,269 --> 00:07:59,539 Are you aware that your office had been bleached 177 00:07:59,563 --> 00:08:01,189 before the FBI searched it? 178 00:08:01,273 --> 00:08:02,273 Yes. 179 00:08:02,316 --> 00:08:06,153 Bleach is a disinfectant. I work with pathogens. 180 00:08:06,236 --> 00:08:07,696 But yours was the only office 181 00:08:07,779 --> 00:08:10,157 in the complex to have been so recently 182 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:11,867 and thoroughly bleached. 183 00:08:11,950 --> 00:08:14,494 Bleach kills anthrax. 184 00:08:14,578 --> 00:08:17,539 It makes it appear as if you were destroying evidence. 185 00:08:17,622 --> 00:08:20,417 Your apartment had been bleached, too. 186 00:08:20,500 --> 00:08:25,047 And investigators found a stash of the antibiotic ciprofloxacin 187 00:08:25,130 --> 00:08:28,508 and a box of N95 face masks in your kitchen. 188 00:08:28,592 --> 00:08:29,694 They suspect you used both 189 00:08:29,718 --> 00:08:32,929 when you assembled the anthrax-laden birthday cards. 190 00:08:33,013 --> 00:08:35,349 I mean, the masks were... I... 191 00:08:37,309 --> 00:08:40,520 I was gonna paint my bathroom. 192 00:08:40,604 --> 00:08:42,624 And I go on a medical mission every year. 193 00:08:42,648 --> 00:08:44,524 This year, it's Cambodia. 194 00:08:44,608 --> 00:08:46,443 Last year, it was Honduras, 195 00:08:46,526 --> 00:08:48,445 Guadalupe. 196 00:08:48,528 --> 00:08:51,782 Anyway, my doctor gives me cipro before I go every year. 197 00:08:53,617 --> 00:08:55,369 I meant what I said. 198 00:08:56,370 --> 00:08:58,955 I have no idea why I'm here. 199 00:09:00,624 --> 00:09:02,417 I believe the woman. 200 00:09:02,501 --> 00:09:05,646 I mean, she says she has no idea what she's doing behind bars. 201 00:09:05,670 --> 00:09:07,214 I believe her. 202 00:09:07,297 --> 00:09:09,216 Okay. Well, that makes two of you. 203 00:09:09,299 --> 00:09:12,969 Unfortunately, the government sees it all quite differently. 204 00:09:13,053 --> 00:09:15,972 Yeah, government. You ever heard of detective myopia? 205 00:09:16,056 --> 00:09:18,642 Detective myopia? 206 00:09:18,725 --> 00:09:20,894 No. Can't say that I have. 207 00:09:20,977 --> 00:09:22,437 It is when law enforcement, 208 00:09:22,521 --> 00:09:25,399 usually because of extreme public or political pressure, 209 00:09:25,482 --> 00:09:28,485 picks a suspect and then evaluates all the evidence 210 00:09:28,568 --> 00:09:31,988 with the predisposition that that suspect is guilty. 211 00:09:32,072 --> 00:09:33,841 And they stop looking for other suspects, 212 00:09:33,865 --> 00:09:35,265 they stop running down leads 213 00:09:35,325 --> 00:09:37,512 that don't back up their predetermined theories. 214 00:09:37,536 --> 00:09:40,580 All their work goes into proving that their suspect, 215 00:09:40,664 --> 00:09:44,418 the person they picked at random is guilty. 216 00:09:44,501 --> 00:09:47,129 City's in a panic. FBI needs 217 00:09:47,212 --> 00:09:48,296 to restore calm. 218 00:09:48,380 --> 00:09:51,591 Natalie presented as someone with access to the bacteria 219 00:09:51,675 --> 00:09:54,475 and an apparent motive, so they combed through her life 220 00:09:54,511 --> 00:09:56,763 looking for ways to prove she did it. 221 00:09:56,847 --> 00:09:58,974 Detective myopia. 222 00:10:01,393 --> 00:10:03,793 I think we need to argue for a change of venue. 223 00:10:04,688 --> 00:10:06,982 Well... I know legal strategy isn't exactly 224 00:10:07,065 --> 00:10:10,318 my area of expertise, but I have been going through 225 00:10:10,402 --> 00:10:14,364 the potential jury lists, and, well, given the panic 226 00:10:14,448 --> 00:10:17,534 and all of the publicity around this case, 227 00:10:17,617 --> 00:10:18,886 wouldn't we be likely to get 228 00:10:18,910 --> 00:10:20,054 a more impartial jury somewhere else? 229 00:10:20,078 --> 00:10:23,665 Somewhere that hasn't been through as much as New York has? 230 00:10:23,749 --> 00:10:25,834 That's not a bad thought, actually. 231 00:10:25,917 --> 00:10:28,417 You know, the problem is, it's next to impossible 232 00:10:28,462 --> 00:10:32,382 to get a change of venue in a federal criminal case. 233 00:10:32,466 --> 00:10:33,508 I'm just worried. 234 00:10:33,592 --> 00:10:35,385 No matter how I look at the data, 235 00:10:35,469 --> 00:10:38,138 I just don't know how we're gonna seat a jury 236 00:10:38,221 --> 00:10:40,474 that can look past their own fears. 237 00:10:40,557 --> 00:10:42,350 That's why we shouldn't try. 238 00:10:42,434 --> 00:10:44,811 In fact, we should do just the opposite. 239 00:10:44,895 --> 00:10:47,481 We should scare the living daylights out of 'em. 240 00:10:47,564 --> 00:10:49,357 People are predisposed 241 00:10:49,441 --> 00:10:50,960 to convicting Natalie because they want to believe 242 00:10:50,984 --> 00:10:52,003 that the danger has passed. 243 00:10:52,027 --> 00:10:55,155 So what we need to do is convince the jury... 244 00:10:55,238 --> 00:10:57,574 that it hasn't. 245 00:10:57,657 --> 00:11:00,535 Anybody remember the last time 246 00:11:00,619 --> 00:11:03,330 we had a series of anthrax attacks? 247 00:11:03,413 --> 00:11:06,249 It was right after 9/11, wasn't it? 248 00:11:06,333 --> 00:11:07,709 Yes, yes. Very good. 249 00:11:07,792 --> 00:11:09,503 And do you remember how long 250 00:11:09,586 --> 00:11:11,686 it took for them to find the perpetrator? 251 00:11:13,131 --> 00:11:14,567 I seem to recall it was pretty quick. 252 00:11:14,591 --> 00:11:16,218 Indeed it was. 253 00:11:16,301 --> 00:11:18,386 Attorney General John Ashcroft 254 00:11:18,470 --> 00:11:23,391 publicly named former biodefense researcher Steven Jay Hatfill 255 00:11:23,475 --> 00:11:25,727 as a person of interest in the attacks. 256 00:11:25,810 --> 00:11:28,396 FBI tapped his phone. 257 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,191 He lost his job, couldn't get another one. 258 00:11:31,274 --> 00:11:32,651 Almost committed suicide. 259 00:11:32,734 --> 00:11:35,111 Then, in 2008, 260 00:11:35,195 --> 00:11:37,113 everyone suddenly realized 261 00:11:37,197 --> 00:11:39,407 that they were persecuting the wrong man. 262 00:11:39,491 --> 00:11:42,077 So here's my question to you. 263 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,472 How many of you folks believe that, of course, 264 00:11:44,496 --> 00:11:47,457 with all the best intentions in the world, 265 00:11:47,541 --> 00:11:50,877 people whose job it is to root out the bad guys 266 00:11:50,961 --> 00:11:53,588 sometimes get it wrong? 267 00:12:00,387 --> 00:12:02,556 Now we're getting somewhere. 268 00:12:05,016 --> 00:12:06,934 Means, motive and opportunity... 269 00:12:07,018 --> 00:12:08,603 They must feel they have it, 270 00:12:08,686 --> 00:12:09,663 or they wouldn't have brought the case. 271 00:12:09,687 --> 00:12:11,707 For those of us who didn't go to law school, 272 00:12:11,731 --> 00:12:12,875 what does "means" mean again? 273 00:12:12,899 --> 00:12:15,502 It means she could do it; she had the tools necessary. 274 00:12:15,526 --> 00:12:17,820 In this case, anthrax. She worked at a place 275 00:12:17,904 --> 00:12:20,528 where anthrax was readily available. 276 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,865 Yeah, but there's more to it than that. 277 00:12:22,909 --> 00:12:25,787 Every expert I've spoken with said the same thing. 278 00:12:25,870 --> 00:12:28,956 Researchers work with wet anthrax spores. 279 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,185 To make a-a powder that can be sent in the mail, 280 00:12:31,209 --> 00:12:32,853 you have to use dry anthrax spores, 281 00:12:32,877 --> 00:12:35,355 and in order to dry them, you have to use a very specific, 282 00:12:35,379 --> 00:12:37,941 very large piece of equipment built just for that purpose. 283 00:12:37,965 --> 00:12:39,151 Which, of course, they have at the lab? 284 00:12:39,175 --> 00:12:40,736 Which, of course, they have at the lab. 285 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,470 But all of that takes time. 286 00:12:42,553 --> 00:12:45,306 Stealing the anthrax. Drying the anthrax. 287 00:12:45,389 --> 00:12:46,867 I've skimmed over this grand jury transcript 288 00:12:46,891 --> 00:12:49,191 three times... I've yet to see an explanation 289 00:12:49,268 --> 00:12:51,813 for when Natalie would have been able to do that 290 00:12:51,896 --> 00:12:53,874 -without raising suspicion. -Obviously, 291 00:12:53,898 --> 00:12:56,692 They are saving their biggest surprises for trial. 292 00:12:56,776 --> 00:12:58,361 I'll give you another one. 293 00:12:59,634 --> 00:13:00,822 So, the FBI was able 294 00:13:00,905 --> 00:13:02,925 to determine that all the anthrax letters 295 00:13:02,949 --> 00:13:04,575 were mailed from this mailbox 296 00:13:04,659 --> 00:13:06,053 within a specific eight-hour period. 297 00:13:06,077 --> 00:13:07,620 Really? 298 00:13:07,703 --> 00:13:09,223 Well, since I'm the only one here 299 00:13:09,247 --> 00:13:10,933 who hasn't worked for Homeland or FBI, 300 00:13:10,957 --> 00:13:13,000 can someone tell me how they do that? 301 00:13:13,084 --> 00:13:15,104 When you drop a letter into a government mailbox, 302 00:13:15,128 --> 00:13:17,106 it goes into a bin that's location-specific 303 00:13:17,130 --> 00:13:18,172 and time-coded. 304 00:13:18,256 --> 00:13:20,943 When that bin is carried back to the general post office 305 00:13:20,967 --> 00:13:22,903 for processing and your letter is postmarked, 306 00:13:22,927 --> 00:13:25,346 it carries all that information with it. 307 00:13:25,429 --> 00:13:28,307 Wow. That's really cool. 308 00:13:28,391 --> 00:13:30,726 And more than a little scary. 309 00:13:30,810 --> 00:13:32,478 Back to the pictures. 310 00:13:32,562 --> 00:13:34,915 All right, so, the FBI examined security footage 311 00:13:34,939 --> 00:13:37,251 from area cameras taken during the same time frame. 312 00:13:37,275 --> 00:13:39,725 They were able to eliminate all but three people 313 00:13:39,777 --> 00:13:41,863 who mailed letters during that period. 314 00:13:41,946 --> 00:13:43,924 Wha...? And how were they able to do that? 315 00:13:43,948 --> 00:13:46,659 How could they tell from these... grainy photos 316 00:13:46,742 --> 00:13:48,953 who's mailing anthrax and who isn't? 317 00:13:49,036 --> 00:13:52,039 Well, I can't be sure, but my suspicion is, 318 00:13:52,123 --> 00:13:54,393 what they really did was basically eliminate everyone 319 00:13:54,417 --> 00:13:56,043 who didn't look like Natalie. 320 00:13:56,127 --> 00:13:58,814 There is your detective myopia that Bull keeps talking about. 321 00:13:58,838 --> 00:14:00,965 And that left them with three people 322 00:14:01,048 --> 00:14:02,383 who did look like Natalie? 323 00:14:02,466 --> 00:14:04,552 Well, it left them with three people, 324 00:14:04,635 --> 00:14:06,262 like this person here. 325 00:14:07,305 --> 00:14:08,931 Or this person here. 326 00:14:09,932 --> 00:14:12,393 Or this person here. 327 00:14:14,437 --> 00:14:17,237 People who don't really look like anyone in particular. 328 00:14:17,273 --> 00:14:19,567 At least not as far as I can tell. 329 00:14:19,650 --> 00:14:21,194 So what am I gonna tell Bull? 330 00:14:21,277 --> 00:14:24,572 Opening arguments, testimony start tomorrow morning. 331 00:14:24,655 --> 00:14:27,200 What in the world am I gonna tell Bull? 332 00:14:27,283 --> 00:14:30,083 Tell him that Danny and I are putting together dossiers 333 00:14:30,119 --> 00:14:33,164 on everyone Natalie works with, and... 334 00:14:33,247 --> 00:14:34,957 That our strategy hasn't changed. 335 00:14:35,041 --> 00:14:37,960 To get the jury and the public to let go of the idea 336 00:14:38,044 --> 00:14:39,855 that Natalie is the mastermind behind these attacks, 337 00:14:39,879 --> 00:14:43,799 we have to... come up with another credible suspect. 338 00:14:43,883 --> 00:14:45,468 And we will. 339 00:14:50,683 --> 00:14:53,895 Now, Dr. Poulson, as a researcher 340 00:14:53,978 --> 00:14:55,855 in the Medical Countermeasures Unit 341 00:14:55,939 --> 00:14:57,499 at Hudson University Laboratories, 342 00:14:57,523 --> 00:14:59,901 you frequently work shoulder-to-shoulder 343 00:14:59,984 --> 00:15:01,236 with Natalie Reznick, 344 00:15:01,319 --> 00:15:03,089 -don't you? -Yes, I do. 345 00:15:03,196 --> 00:15:07,325 Now, it's against the lab's standard operating procedures 346 00:15:07,408 --> 00:15:09,077 for anyone to work alone? 347 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,138 -That's correct, yes. -And to your knowledge, 348 00:15:11,162 --> 00:15:12,789 Dr. Poulson, 349 00:15:12,872 --> 00:15:14,791 did Dr. Reznick 350 00:15:14,874 --> 00:15:18,711 ever simply disregard this tenet of standard operating procedure? 351 00:15:19,879 --> 00:15:22,799 Yes, I believe she may have. Once. 352 00:15:22,882 --> 00:15:25,278 About a week before the attacks. 353 00:15:25,385 --> 00:15:26,445 You're referring to the evening 354 00:15:26,469 --> 00:15:28,739 -of the 11th? -I don't know what he's talking about. 355 00:15:28,763 --> 00:15:31,641 It was late. We were the only two people in the lab. 356 00:15:31,724 --> 00:15:34,310 And at around 7:00 p.m., I got summoned 357 00:15:34,394 --> 00:15:37,021 to the chancellor's office for a call with D.C. 358 00:15:37,105 --> 00:15:40,525 Much of the work we do at our labs 359 00:15:40,608 --> 00:15:42,986 is in partnership with the Department 360 00:15:43,069 --> 00:15:45,488 of Defense, so when they say jump, 361 00:15:45,571 --> 00:15:47,490 we jump. 362 00:15:47,573 --> 00:15:50,326 And I told Natalie to... 363 00:15:50,410 --> 00:15:54,038 clean up and that we would finish up another day. 364 00:15:54,122 --> 00:15:57,208 So I left her unattended. 365 00:15:57,292 --> 00:16:00,378 Which, as the senior researcher, I shouldn't have done. 366 00:16:00,461 --> 00:16:03,798 But she assured me that she would just take a few minutes 367 00:16:03,881 --> 00:16:05,110 and then she would leave. 368 00:16:05,134 --> 00:16:06,384 Just to be clear. 369 00:16:07,468 --> 00:16:09,512 Your expectation was that Dr. Reznick 370 00:16:09,595 --> 00:16:11,347 would take five, maybe ten minutes 371 00:16:11,431 --> 00:16:13,516 to clean up the lab and then leave. 372 00:16:13,599 --> 00:16:14,599 Correct? 373 00:16:14,642 --> 00:16:16,519 That was my assumption, yes. 374 00:16:16,602 --> 00:16:18,563 Dr. Poulson... 375 00:16:18,646 --> 00:16:21,190 this is a single frame 376 00:16:21,274 --> 00:16:24,527 from security footage taken from the night in question. 377 00:16:24,610 --> 00:16:28,197 It shows someone leaving the laboratory complex at Hudson. 378 00:16:28,281 --> 00:16:29,991 Can you identify that person? 379 00:16:30,074 --> 00:16:31,198 It's Dr. Reznick. 380 00:16:31,222 --> 00:16:32,368 And could you read 381 00:16:32,452 --> 00:16:35,246 the time stamp on the photo for us, please? 382 00:16:35,330 --> 00:16:38,374 9:26 p.m. 383 00:16:38,458 --> 00:16:40,585 9:26 p.m. 384 00:16:40,668 --> 00:16:44,714 Two and a half hours after you left the lab, correct? 385 00:16:44,797 --> 00:16:46,007 Yes. 386 00:16:46,090 --> 00:16:47,258 Dr. Poulson, 387 00:16:47,342 --> 00:16:50,112 in your professional opinion, if Dr. Reznick had been alone 388 00:16:50,136 --> 00:16:53,222 in that lab, not just for a few minutes to clean up, 389 00:16:53,306 --> 00:16:56,356 but for several hours, would that have given her enough time 390 00:16:56,434 --> 00:16:59,520 to dry the anthrax spores into a powder 391 00:16:59,604 --> 00:17:01,856 and sneak them out of the lab? 392 00:17:01,939 --> 00:17:04,776 Objection, Your Honor! Calls for speculation. 393 00:17:04,859 --> 00:17:06,069 Your Honor, 394 00:17:06,152 --> 00:17:07,629 Dr. Poulson is a microbiologist. 395 00:17:07,653 --> 00:17:10,573 I'm simply asking him for his professional opinion. 396 00:17:10,657 --> 00:17:12,450 Objection overruled. 397 00:17:12,533 --> 00:17:14,827 I'll allow him to answer. 398 00:17:15,828 --> 00:17:18,414 I believe it would have, yes. 399 00:17:18,498 --> 00:17:22,604 No further questions for now, Your Honor. 400 00:17:29,676 --> 00:17:31,636 Dr. Poulson. 401 00:17:31,719 --> 00:17:34,097 Really appreciate you being here today. 402 00:17:34,180 --> 00:17:36,599 Now, I know we've heard a lot of speculation 403 00:17:36,682 --> 00:17:39,582 about what might have happened, what could have happened, 404 00:17:39,644 --> 00:17:42,397 but you are a scientist. 405 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,942 You deal with the physical facts of the world. 406 00:17:46,025 --> 00:17:48,569 So let's get back to that. 407 00:17:48,653 --> 00:17:50,488 Do you have any proof 408 00:17:50,571 --> 00:17:53,574 that Dr. Reznick stayed in the lab alone 409 00:17:53,658 --> 00:17:56,619 any longer than she told you she would? 410 00:17:56,702 --> 00:17:58,496 Well, based on the time stamp... 411 00:17:58,579 --> 00:18:01,791 No, no. That time stamp only proves 412 00:18:01,874 --> 00:18:04,001 what time she left the building, 413 00:18:04,085 --> 00:18:07,463 which was two and a half hours after you did. 414 00:18:07,547 --> 00:18:09,465 Nowhere does it indicate 415 00:18:09,549 --> 00:18:12,468 what time she left the lab itself, does it? 416 00:18:13,511 --> 00:18:14,802 No, it doesn't. 417 00:18:16,222 --> 00:18:20,643 Now, Dr. Reznick maintains she left the lab 418 00:18:20,726 --> 00:18:23,438 as promised and spent the remainder of that time 419 00:18:23,521 --> 00:18:27,984 in her office typing a report of the day's work. 420 00:18:28,067 --> 00:18:30,027 In fact... 421 00:18:30,111 --> 00:18:33,739 you reviewed that very report the next morning, didn't you? 422 00:18:33,823 --> 00:18:34,824 It's quite possible. 423 00:18:34,907 --> 00:18:37,457 I often review the reports from the previous night 424 00:18:37,535 --> 00:18:38,513 the next morning. 425 00:18:38,537 --> 00:18:39,537 I see. 426 00:18:39,620 --> 00:18:43,624 And before the FBI informed you that Dr. Reznick was a suspect, 427 00:18:43,708 --> 00:18:46,711 did you have any reason to suspect her of this crime? 428 00:18:46,794 --> 00:18:48,171 No. 429 00:18:50,423 --> 00:18:54,135 I've always believed Natalie to be trustworthy and... 430 00:18:54,218 --> 00:18:55,970 a passionate scientist. 431 00:18:56,053 --> 00:18:58,222 And I'm still inclined to believe so. 432 00:18:58,306 --> 00:19:00,224 I mean, hon... 433 00:19:00,308 --> 00:19:02,185 honestly... 434 00:19:02,268 --> 00:19:05,563 I hope the version of events you just laid out is the truth. 435 00:19:06,606 --> 00:19:09,817 Thank you very much, Dr. Poulson. 436 00:19:09,901 --> 00:19:12,278 No further questions, Your Honor. 437 00:19:13,946 --> 00:19:15,114 Redirect? 438 00:19:16,115 --> 00:19:18,868 Regardless of what you might hope, 439 00:19:18,951 --> 00:19:20,870 Dr. Poulson, 440 00:19:20,953 --> 00:19:23,873 doesn't the fact remain that a pathogen was stolen 441 00:19:23,956 --> 00:19:25,458 from your lab? 442 00:19:26,459 --> 00:19:27,729 -Yes. -And based 443 00:19:27,835 --> 00:19:29,935 On your own testimony, wouldn't you agree 444 00:19:30,004 --> 00:19:33,841 that Dr. Reznick was the only researcher 445 00:19:33,925 --> 00:19:35,611 who could possibly have had an opportunity 446 00:19:35,635 --> 00:19:37,154 -to do it? -Asked and answered, 447 00:19:37,178 --> 00:19:38,221 Your Honor. 448 00:19:38,304 --> 00:19:40,181 Counsel is badgering the witness. 449 00:19:40,264 --> 00:19:42,744 I'll withdraw the question, Your Honor. 450 00:19:42,808 --> 00:19:45,061 How's the view from where you're sitting? 451 00:19:45,144 --> 00:19:46,604 The only good news is, 452 00:19:46,687 --> 00:19:49,232 it can't get any worse. 453 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,412 I'm awake. It's okay. 454 00:20:01,495 --> 00:20:04,248 Partying all night with Astrid again? 455 00:20:04,331 --> 00:20:05,499 Yeah. 456 00:20:07,668 --> 00:20:10,480 I was sitting in the living room at 3:00 in the morning, 457 00:20:10,504 --> 00:20:11,398 little Astrid up on my shoulder. 458 00:20:11,422 --> 00:20:13,632 I was trying to get a burp out of her. 459 00:20:13,716 --> 00:20:16,427 And I flip on the news, and we're everywhere. 460 00:20:16,510 --> 00:20:18,448 Every channel. 461 00:20:18,554 --> 00:20:21,265 And if it is our intention to convince the jury 462 00:20:21,349 --> 00:20:23,934 that the real anthrax killer is still out there, 463 00:20:24,018 --> 00:20:27,396 well, the national media has not picked up on it. 464 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,440 Which means... 465 00:20:29,523 --> 00:20:31,275 we're failing. 466 00:20:32,318 --> 00:20:34,445 Well, you don't know that. 467 00:20:34,528 --> 00:20:36,572 Our target's the jury, not cable news. 468 00:20:36,655 --> 00:20:38,592 But the world of cable news is the world 469 00:20:38,616 --> 00:20:40,343 these jurors go home to every night. 470 00:20:40,367 --> 00:20:43,287 And if the CNNs and the Foxes and the CNBCs aren't buying 471 00:20:43,370 --> 00:20:45,140 our version of events, then neither 472 00:20:45,164 --> 00:20:48,501 are the jurors' families or neighbors. 473 00:20:48,584 --> 00:20:52,254 And we all know they're not supposed to talk about the case 474 00:20:52,338 --> 00:20:57,338 or watch the news about it... but they do. 475 00:20:57,593 --> 00:21:01,138 I'm sorry, Bull, but I think you're being a little premature. 476 00:21:01,222 --> 00:21:03,622 The prosecution is still presenting their case, 477 00:21:03,682 --> 00:21:05,601 and we haven't even gotten our turn. 478 00:21:05,684 --> 00:21:08,604 I know. But we can't wait until then. 479 00:21:08,687 --> 00:21:10,773 We have to go on the offensive now. 480 00:21:10,856 --> 00:21:13,210 We got to use every objection, every cross to hammer home 481 00:21:13,234 --> 00:21:16,821 how dangerous it will be if the jury gets this one wrong. 482 00:21:16,904 --> 00:21:20,199 The killer is still out there. 483 00:21:21,283 --> 00:21:23,494 My wife, my-my wife Katie, 484 00:21:23,577 --> 00:21:26,539 she didn't aspire to a political life. 485 00:21:26,622 --> 00:21:28,517 I mean, heck, when I met her in grad school, 486 00:21:28,541 --> 00:21:29,684 she didn't even read the paper. 487 00:21:29,708 --> 00:21:32,503 But then we fell in love, and the next thing you know, 488 00:21:32,586 --> 00:21:36,257 I'm running for office and then we're out there together 489 00:21:36,340 --> 00:21:38,551 on the campaign trail. 490 00:21:38,634 --> 00:21:40,803 She was a natural. 491 00:21:40,886 --> 00:21:42,888 I mean, she loved people. 492 00:21:42,972 --> 00:21:46,851 And people sensed it and they loved her right back. 493 00:21:46,934 --> 00:21:50,980 You see, I take enormous pride in being a congressman. 494 00:21:51,063 --> 00:21:53,023 But the thought that my job, 495 00:21:53,107 --> 00:21:55,568 that my commitment to public service 496 00:21:55,651 --> 00:22:00,531 somehow contributed to her d-death... 497 00:22:00,614 --> 00:22:03,159 It's all right, Congressman Connors. 498 00:22:03,242 --> 00:22:05,035 No further questions. 499 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,663 Bull, it's not looking good here. 500 00:22:07,746 --> 00:22:09,891 This jury really feels for the congressman. 501 00:22:09,915 --> 00:22:12,042 Of course they do. So do I. 502 00:22:12,126 --> 00:22:15,004 But that doesn't mean his pain is Natalie's fault. 503 00:22:15,087 --> 00:22:17,756 Congressman Connors. 504 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,551 I'd just like to say how profoundly sorry I am 505 00:22:20,634 --> 00:22:21,927 for your loss. 506 00:22:22,011 --> 00:22:23,387 Thank you. 507 00:22:23,470 --> 00:22:25,639 Now, much has been made of the fact 508 00:22:25,723 --> 00:22:29,351 that you were a part of a long list of legislators 509 00:22:29,435 --> 00:22:31,520 Dr. Reznick reached out to in the wake 510 00:22:31,604 --> 00:22:34,231 of a funding cut to her research program. 511 00:22:34,315 --> 00:22:37,401 Now, do you recall Dr. Reznick's 512 00:22:37,484 --> 00:22:40,571 message to you to be threatening in any way? 513 00:22:40,654 --> 00:22:42,239 Honestly, I don't. 514 00:22:42,323 --> 00:22:47,077 You see, my staff filters my e-mails, so I only learned about 515 00:22:47,161 --> 00:22:52,161 that message in the, in the aftermath of my wife's passing. 516 00:22:52,291 --> 00:22:55,252 But, no, it did not appear to be threatening. 517 00:22:55,336 --> 00:22:58,923 But I imagine your office must receive 518 00:22:59,006 --> 00:23:01,592 threatening e-mails from time to time? 519 00:23:01,675 --> 00:23:03,612 Yes, unfortunately, in my line of work, 520 00:23:03,636 --> 00:23:05,489 you have to make tough choices sometimes, 521 00:23:05,513 --> 00:23:07,097 choices that anger people, 522 00:23:07,181 --> 00:23:09,892 and occasionally those people do lash out. 523 00:23:09,975 --> 00:23:14,438 How many threats would you estimate that you've received 524 00:23:14,521 --> 00:23:17,274 in the seven years that you've been in Congress? 525 00:23:17,358 --> 00:23:22,358 Like I said, my staff filters my communications, 526 00:23:22,988 --> 00:23:25,282 so there's really no way for me to know. 527 00:23:25,366 --> 00:23:28,285 Well, my office inquired. 528 00:23:28,369 --> 00:23:32,248 And according to your staff, it's 102. 529 00:23:33,540 --> 00:23:35,334 That's how many unique threats 530 00:23:35,417 --> 00:23:38,462 your office has received in the past seven years. 531 00:23:38,545 --> 00:23:41,799 19 of those were death threats. 532 00:23:41,882 --> 00:23:43,968 So let me ask you, 533 00:23:44,051 --> 00:23:49,051 in the wake of these attacks, to the best of your knowledge, 534 00:23:49,682 --> 00:23:54,353 did the FBI investigate those 19 people 535 00:23:54,436 --> 00:23:57,147 who previously threatened to take your life? 536 00:23:57,231 --> 00:23:59,608 They may have. 537 00:23:59,692 --> 00:24:01,986 Honestly, I don't know. 538 00:24:02,069 --> 00:24:04,530 You don't know. 539 00:24:04,613 --> 00:24:08,325 Wow. That's kind of unsettling. 540 00:24:08,409 --> 00:24:11,453 I mean, did the FBI even ask you about 541 00:24:11,537 --> 00:24:15,457 anyone who possibly could have had a vendetta against you 542 00:24:15,541 --> 00:24:17,167 during that time period? 543 00:24:17,251 --> 00:24:19,670 I don't know. 544 00:24:19,753 --> 00:24:23,882 Well, then I truly am sorry for you, Congressman Connors. 545 00:24:23,966 --> 00:24:27,636 Not only for your tragic loss, but also because, 546 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,889 apparently, law enforcement seems more interested 547 00:24:30,973 --> 00:24:33,600 in scapegoating Natalie Reznick than it does 548 00:24:33,684 --> 00:24:36,812 in making sure your wife's real killer is off the streets. 549 00:24:36,895 --> 00:24:39,690 Objection. Counsel is testifying. 550 00:24:39,773 --> 00:24:41,400 Sustained. 551 00:24:41,483 --> 00:24:44,695 The jury will disregard the defense's last statement. 552 00:24:44,778 --> 00:24:46,530 Ask a question, Mr. Colón. 553 00:24:46,613 --> 00:24:47,924 That's all right, Your Honor. 554 00:24:47,948 --> 00:24:49,366 I have no further questions 555 00:24:49,450 --> 00:24:51,386 -at this time. -I'm sure you can't see it yet, 556 00:24:51,410 --> 00:24:53,638 But it finally feels like we're making progress. 557 00:24:53,662 --> 00:24:55,890 The government will call its next witness, please. 558 00:24:55,914 --> 00:24:59,001 The government rests its case, Your Honor. 559 00:24:59,084 --> 00:25:02,588 Then the defense will call its first witness, please. 560 00:25:02,671 --> 00:25:05,424 My parents came to this country before I was born. 561 00:25:05,507 --> 00:25:07,968 They were scientists in the Soviet Union, 562 00:25:08,052 --> 00:25:09,988 but they refused to toe the party line, 563 00:25:10,012 --> 00:25:12,097 so their lives were in danger. 564 00:25:12,181 --> 00:25:15,601 They fled and they found sanctuary here, 565 00:25:15,684 --> 00:25:16,328 in America. 566 00:25:16,352 --> 00:25:18,437 And until the day they died, 567 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,731 they never ceased being grateful for that. 568 00:25:20,814 --> 00:25:23,859 And they raised me to be grateful, too. 569 00:25:23,942 --> 00:25:27,613 I decided when I was 570 00:25:27,696 --> 00:25:29,632 a very young girl that, when I grew up, 571 00:25:29,656 --> 00:25:31,575 I-I would help people somehow, 572 00:25:31,658 --> 00:25:33,452 protect people somehow. 573 00:25:33,535 --> 00:25:37,081 So, is that how you ended up researching cures 574 00:25:37,164 --> 00:25:39,208 for deadly biological weapons? 575 00:25:39,291 --> 00:25:42,419 Well, it was... 576 00:25:42,503 --> 00:25:44,588 It was part of it, sure. 577 00:25:44,671 --> 00:25:46,298 A love of science. 578 00:25:47,341 --> 00:25:48,234 I don't know. 579 00:25:48,258 --> 00:25:51,011 It-it-it gives me a sense of satisfaction, 580 00:25:51,095 --> 00:25:52,697 like I'm-I'm pulling my own weight, 581 00:25:52,721 --> 00:25:55,099 I'm doing my share. 582 00:25:55,182 --> 00:25:57,935 I am showing my gratitude. 583 00:25:58,018 --> 00:26:00,437 So the idea that you would hurt 584 00:26:00,521 --> 00:26:04,942 or kill fellow Americans for your own personal gain... 585 00:26:05,025 --> 00:26:06,443 Is absurd. 586 00:26:06,527 --> 00:26:08,445 To do the work that I do, 587 00:26:08,529 --> 00:26:10,781 you have... You have to become a doctor. 588 00:26:10,864 --> 00:26:13,409 I'm-I'm a doctor. 589 00:26:13,492 --> 00:26:15,452 I took an oath to save lives. 590 00:26:15,536 --> 00:26:19,123 Why would I knowingly set out to hurt anyone? 591 00:26:19,206 --> 00:26:21,917 Kill anyone? 592 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,627 Thank you, Dr. Reznick. 593 00:26:23,710 --> 00:26:26,004 No further questions, Your Honor. 594 00:26:26,088 --> 00:26:28,799 They look engaged to me, receptive. 595 00:26:28,882 --> 00:26:30,259 Open body language. 596 00:26:30,342 --> 00:26:32,362 A couple jurors are starting to lean in. 597 00:26:32,386 --> 00:26:34,364 Does that line up with what you're seeing? 598 00:26:34,388 --> 00:26:35,556 Sure does. 599 00:26:35,639 --> 00:26:37,242 They're starting to find Natalie credible, 600 00:26:37,266 --> 00:26:40,310 and a few of them are now firmly on her side. 601 00:26:40,394 --> 00:26:42,146 So, 602 00:26:42,229 --> 00:26:43,981 Dr. Reznick, 603 00:26:44,064 --> 00:26:45,875 the pleasure you take from your work 604 00:26:45,899 --> 00:26:49,528 is fundamentally altruistic, right? 605 00:26:49,611 --> 00:26:52,656 I mean, you want to pull your own weight. 606 00:26:52,739 --> 00:26:55,492 You want to do your share. 607 00:26:55,576 --> 00:26:59,288 And, most of all, you want to help people? 608 00:26:59,371 --> 00:27:00,789 Protect people. 609 00:27:00,873 --> 00:27:03,375 This is what you just testified to, correct? 610 00:27:03,459 --> 00:27:05,461 Yes. 611 00:27:05,544 --> 00:27:06,896 And you would never want to hurt anyone. 612 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,065 You certainly wouldn't want to see anyone die. 613 00:27:09,089 --> 00:27:10,132 I mean, the work 614 00:27:10,215 --> 00:27:11,192 you do, 615 00:27:11,216 --> 00:27:13,343 your very reason for being, 616 00:27:13,427 --> 00:27:16,597 is all about saving lives. 617 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,015 Is that correct? 618 00:27:18,098 --> 00:27:20,184 That is what I said, yes. 619 00:27:20,267 --> 00:27:21,393 Interesting. 620 00:27:21,477 --> 00:27:23,437 Because I have a video 621 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,582 of an academic conference you participated in, 622 00:27:25,606 --> 00:27:27,399 which would seem 623 00:27:27,483 --> 00:27:29,401 to suggest otherwise. 624 00:27:29,485 --> 00:27:30,861 Objection. 625 00:27:30,944 --> 00:27:32,905 Your Honor, this is the first 626 00:27:32,988 --> 00:27:34,907 the defense has heard of any video. 627 00:27:34,990 --> 00:27:37,135 -The AUSA knows... -Your Honor, a concerned citizen 628 00:27:37,159 --> 00:27:39,095 -Sent this video to our office... -he has a duty to disclose 629 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:40,555 -Any and all... -only just yesterday. 630 00:27:40,579 --> 00:27:42,498 Enough! Both of you. 631 00:27:42,581 --> 00:27:43,916 Mr. Reynolds, 632 00:27:43,999 --> 00:27:47,878 I'm gonna take you at your word and allow this. 633 00:27:47,961 --> 00:27:50,547 Mr. Colón, I will give you ample time to prepare 634 00:27:50,631 --> 00:27:52,382 should you choose to redirect. 635 00:27:52,466 --> 00:27:54,134 Let's proceed. 636 00:27:55,385 --> 00:27:57,221 Is that you up there, Dr. Reznick, 637 00:27:57,304 --> 00:27:59,014 on the stage, in the video? 638 00:27:59,097 --> 00:28:00,766 It is. Yes. 639 00:28:00,849 --> 00:28:03,393 Do you recall when this video was taken? 640 00:28:03,477 --> 00:28:05,562 Um, I-I believe 641 00:28:05,646 --> 00:28:09,566 it was an ethics panel at a microbiology conference 642 00:28:09,650 --> 00:28:12,569 about... ten years ago. 643 00:28:12,653 --> 00:28:14,196 I was still a postgrad. 644 00:28:15,697 --> 00:28:20,244 I have a hypothetical question for you, Dr. Reznick. 645 00:28:20,327 --> 00:28:21,453 Okay. 646 00:28:21,537 --> 00:28:24,581 If an unknown deadly virus or bacteria 647 00:28:24,665 --> 00:28:27,084 were to infect an isolated group of people, 648 00:28:27,167 --> 00:28:28,585 what, in your opinion, 649 00:28:28,669 --> 00:28:31,380 is the best course of action? 650 00:28:31,463 --> 00:28:33,423 Um, well, 651 00:28:33,507 --> 00:28:38,220 if there was a chance to contain the outbreak within that group, 652 00:28:38,303 --> 00:28:39,763 I'd say that the only choice 653 00:28:39,846 --> 00:28:43,016 is to quarantine the infected... 654 00:28:43,100 --> 00:28:44,601 Nobody in, nobody out... 655 00:28:44,685 --> 00:28:48,272 And then watch the, progression of the disease. 656 00:28:48,355 --> 00:28:50,107 Even if the disease were deadly? 657 00:28:50,190 --> 00:28:51,483 Well, if you don't know 658 00:28:51,567 --> 00:28:52,335 what the pathogen is, 659 00:28:52,359 --> 00:28:54,820 treating the symptoms may be futile. 660 00:28:54,903 --> 00:28:58,156 You're going to have to let in medical workers, 661 00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:59,509 and then, at some point, you're going 662 00:28:59,533 --> 00:29:01,076 to have to let them back out, 663 00:29:01,159 --> 00:29:02,578 and they very well may carry 664 00:29:02,661 --> 00:29:04,639 whatever it is to the general population. 665 00:29:04,663 --> 00:29:06,623 So, yeah, 666 00:29:06,707 --> 00:29:08,208 harsh as it sounds, 667 00:29:08,292 --> 00:29:10,961 quarantine. 668 00:29:11,044 --> 00:29:12,296 Because, unfortunately, 669 00:29:12,379 --> 00:29:16,425 sometimes five have to die to save 5,000. 670 00:29:24,057 --> 00:29:28,687 "Sometimes five have to die to save 5,000." 671 00:29:32,733 --> 00:29:35,920 Is that why you sent the anthrax through the mail, Dr. Reznick? 672 00:29:35,944 --> 00:29:39,489 Because you thought it would be okay to kill two 673 00:29:39,573 --> 00:29:42,117 if it meant recovering the funds 674 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,494 that you needed in order to find a cure? 675 00:29:44,578 --> 00:29:46,330 Objection. 676 00:29:46,413 --> 00:29:47,513 Facts not in evidence. 677 00:29:47,581 --> 00:29:48,999 Speculation. 678 00:29:49,082 --> 00:29:50,208 Badgering. 679 00:29:50,292 --> 00:29:51,501 Should I go on? 680 00:29:51,585 --> 00:29:53,211 Of course not. 681 00:29:53,295 --> 00:29:55,505 That is part of a larger conversation. 682 00:29:55,589 --> 00:29:57,525 You lifted that out of context. 683 00:29:57,549 --> 00:29:59,360 -Dr. Reznick. -And organically contracting 684 00:29:59,384 --> 00:30:01,195 A disease is fundamentally different 685 00:30:01,219 --> 00:30:03,406 -than intentionally infecting someone. -Dr. Reznick. 686 00:30:03,430 --> 00:30:05,015 Dr. Reznick. 687 00:30:05,098 --> 00:30:08,310 Your attorney was making an objection on your behalf. 688 00:30:08,393 --> 00:30:10,228 In the future, when an attorney 689 00:30:10,312 --> 00:30:11,521 makes an objection, 690 00:30:11,605 --> 00:30:14,542 please refrain from answering until I've rendered my decision 691 00:30:14,566 --> 00:30:16,193 on the objection. 692 00:30:16,276 --> 00:30:18,195 I will let the witness's statement 693 00:30:18,278 --> 00:30:20,030 remain in the record. 694 00:30:20,113 --> 00:30:22,550 Let's take a ten-minute break and allow everyone 695 00:30:22,574 --> 00:30:24,719 -to cool down. The witness will remain... -How's this playing where you are? 696 00:30:24,743 --> 00:30:25,637 Not terribly well. 697 00:30:25,661 --> 00:30:27,711 I'm afraid we lost all our greens, Bull. 698 00:30:27,788 --> 00:30:30,228 We will continue her testimony at that time. 699 00:30:33,036 --> 00:30:34,181 So, how was dinner? 700 00:30:34,205 --> 00:30:35,372 Not great. 701 00:30:35,455 --> 00:30:37,332 I wasn't hungry. I'd been eating 702 00:30:37,416 --> 00:30:38,685 my small intestine all afternoon. 703 00:30:38,709 --> 00:30:40,085 I promise you, 704 00:30:40,168 --> 00:30:42,462 it was as difficult to listen to over here 705 00:30:42,546 --> 00:30:47,134 as I'm sure it was for you to witness in person. 706 00:30:47,217 --> 00:30:48,969 The problem is, was, 707 00:30:49,052 --> 00:30:51,239 and continues to be we've presented the jury 708 00:30:51,263 --> 00:30:53,157 with no real alternatives to our client. 709 00:30:53,181 --> 00:30:55,243 We keep insisting it must be someone else, but... 710 00:30:55,267 --> 00:30:56,329 we never say who. 711 00:30:56,353 --> 00:30:57,436 Yeah. 712 00:30:57,519 --> 00:30:59,980 Bull's hitting the nail on the head, Marissa. 713 00:31:00,063 --> 00:31:02,363 Every time I feel like we're making progress, 714 00:31:02,399 --> 00:31:05,277 every time I feel a hint of traction with this jury, 715 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:06,570 it all slips away. 716 00:31:06,653 --> 00:31:10,073 That's because they have no one else to consider but Natalie. 717 00:31:10,157 --> 00:31:12,302 I hear you. And all I can tell you is that... 718 00:31:12,326 --> 00:31:14,286 Danny, Chunk, and Taylor... 719 00:31:14,369 --> 00:31:16,455 Who is standing right next to me... 720 00:31:16,538 --> 00:31:19,041 They're all beating the bushes, 721 00:31:19,124 --> 00:31:21,895 trying to find someone who could have plausibly pulled this off. 722 00:31:21,919 --> 00:31:23,469 Dr. Bull, did you get a chance 723 00:31:23,545 --> 00:31:25,356 to go through those dossiers I prepared for you? 724 00:31:25,380 --> 00:31:28,342 There's material there on almost 50 lab employees, 725 00:31:28,425 --> 00:31:30,302 all of whom have access to anthrax. 726 00:31:30,385 --> 00:31:33,138 I'm getting through them as fast as I can, Taylor. 727 00:31:33,221 --> 00:31:35,408 But it's not as if anyone flagged one of the employees 728 00:31:35,432 --> 00:31:38,977 and said, "Here's a plausible suspect." 729 00:31:39,061 --> 00:31:40,330 Come on, Bull. We are all pulling 730 00:31:40,354 --> 00:31:42,054 on the same end of the rope here. 731 00:31:43,087 --> 00:31:44,274 What? 732 00:31:44,358 --> 00:31:45,442 The hell was that? 733 00:31:45,525 --> 00:31:47,402 What's going on over there? 734 00:31:57,579 --> 00:31:59,498 Is it... safe out here? 735 00:31:59,581 --> 00:32:01,166 Absolutely. 736 00:32:01,249 --> 00:32:03,335 My name is, Jason Bull. 737 00:32:03,418 --> 00:32:05,295 This is my place of business. 738 00:32:05,379 --> 00:32:07,172 I have two employees inside. 739 00:32:07,255 --> 00:32:10,425 Do you have any sense of when they'll be able to come out? 740 00:32:10,509 --> 00:32:13,178 They will be able to come out at some point, right? 741 00:32:13,261 --> 00:32:15,013 It's gonna be quite a while. 742 00:32:15,097 --> 00:32:16,897 You might want to give them a call. 743 00:32:19,476 --> 00:32:20,894 How you guys feeling? 744 00:32:20,978 --> 00:32:23,313 At the moment? Absolutely fine. 745 00:32:23,397 --> 00:32:25,315 A little hungry. 746 00:32:25,399 --> 00:32:26,525 He asked. 747 00:32:26,608 --> 00:32:28,252 We can't eat anything from the kitchen. 748 00:32:28,276 --> 00:32:30,421 Can't eat anything until they give us the all clear 749 00:32:30,445 --> 00:32:31,714 and we can get out of here. 750 00:32:31,738 --> 00:32:33,758 We are gonna be fine. They've loaded us up with antibiotics. 751 00:32:33,782 --> 00:32:34,759 I think it's primarily 752 00:32:34,783 --> 00:32:37,202 about waiting for lab results at this point. 753 00:32:37,285 --> 00:32:39,764 Marissa, Taylor, I'm so sorry you're going through this. 754 00:32:39,788 --> 00:32:40,872 They give you 755 00:32:40,956 --> 00:32:42,499 any ETA on these tests? 756 00:32:42,582 --> 00:32:45,335 They've estimated another three hours or so. 757 00:32:45,419 --> 00:32:48,171 Taylor, do you need us to swing by your place 758 00:32:48,255 --> 00:32:49,273 and pick up your son? 759 00:32:49,297 --> 00:32:51,049 Nope. He's at his dad's. 760 00:32:51,133 --> 00:32:52,134 Thank goodness. 761 00:32:52,217 --> 00:32:55,053 Hey, guys, there's nothing for you to do here. 762 00:32:55,137 --> 00:32:56,722 Why don't you just head home? 763 00:32:56,805 --> 00:32:59,683 Bull, I will text you as soon as they tell us anything. 764 00:32:59,766 --> 00:33:01,601 As soon as they let us out of here. 765 00:33:01,685 --> 00:33:03,395 Are you sure? I mean, 766 00:33:03,478 --> 00:33:05,397 I'm happy to stick around. 767 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,232 We're good. 768 00:33:07,315 --> 00:33:08,335 We've got each other. 769 00:33:08,359 --> 00:33:09,401 Okay. 770 00:33:09,484 --> 00:33:11,403 Then I am going to go home, 771 00:33:11,486 --> 00:33:14,406 kiss my baby, 772 00:33:14,489 --> 00:33:16,700 and read some dossiers. 773 00:33:19,327 --> 00:33:21,413 Would you think I was a terrible person 774 00:33:21,496 --> 00:33:22,873 if I told you that, 775 00:33:22,956 --> 00:33:25,309 as horrible as this must be for Marissa and Taylor, 776 00:33:25,333 --> 00:33:27,836 there's potentially a big upside to it? 777 00:33:28,837 --> 00:33:29,963 Thank God. 778 00:33:30,047 --> 00:33:33,300 I thought I was the only one whose mind worked that way. 779 00:33:33,383 --> 00:33:35,343 Natalie's in jail. 780 00:33:35,427 --> 00:33:37,471 So she couldn't have done it. 781 00:33:37,554 --> 00:33:39,264 If the FBI and the CDC confirm 782 00:33:39,347 --> 00:33:42,434 that the handwriting is the same on the letter we got at TAC 783 00:33:42,517 --> 00:33:44,217 as on the envelopes that went out 784 00:33:44,269 --> 00:33:45,997 to the congressman and the newscaster... 785 00:33:46,021 --> 00:33:47,971 And that the construction of the gizmo 786 00:33:48,023 --> 00:33:51,359 that makes sure the anthrax makes contact with the person 787 00:33:51,443 --> 00:33:52,486 is similar... 788 00:33:53,904 --> 00:33:56,823 I think our client is free and clear. 789 00:33:56,907 --> 00:34:00,702 I'll make sure to keep all my digits crossed. 790 00:34:08,668 --> 00:34:10,754 Hello? 791 00:34:10,837 --> 00:34:12,297 Marissa. 792 00:34:12,380 --> 00:34:15,175 Tell me what's going on. 793 00:34:16,718 --> 00:34:19,137 On your way home? 794 00:34:19,221 --> 00:34:21,098 That's great. 795 00:34:21,181 --> 00:34:23,391 Great to hear. 796 00:34:25,602 --> 00:34:26,895 Really? 797 00:34:26,978 --> 00:34:29,314 They certain of that? Powdered sugar? 798 00:34:31,733 --> 00:34:34,361 Yeah, that is funny. 799 00:34:34,444 --> 00:34:36,571 If Taylor had only licked her fingers, 800 00:34:36,655 --> 00:34:39,533 she wouldn't have been hungry anymore. 801 00:34:39,616 --> 00:34:42,369 Well, the two of you get something to eat, 802 00:34:42,452 --> 00:34:45,372 get some sleep, and I'll see you in the morning. 803 00:34:45,455 --> 00:34:47,165 Night. 804 00:34:51,586 --> 00:34:54,172 You have no idea how happy I am 805 00:34:54,256 --> 00:34:57,300 to be standing here, talking to you. 806 00:34:57,384 --> 00:35:01,304 You have no idea how happy I am to be talked to. 807 00:35:02,430 --> 00:35:03,932 Just a copycat. 808 00:35:04,015 --> 00:35:07,227 Copycat with powdered sugar trying to intimidate us. 809 00:35:07,310 --> 00:35:09,622 Somebody who'd watched the news and convinced themselves 810 00:35:09,646 --> 00:35:11,398 that Natalie is a murderer 811 00:35:11,481 --> 00:35:13,709 and that we're the bad guys just doing whatever we can 812 00:35:13,733 --> 00:35:15,671 -to help her evade the law. -Well, 813 00:35:15,777 --> 00:35:18,548 I went through the rest of the dossiers early this morning, 814 00:35:18,572 --> 00:35:21,449 and I found one that ticked a lot of boxes for me. 815 00:35:21,533 --> 00:35:22,617 Really? 816 00:35:22,701 --> 00:35:25,662 What if I told you that one of the employees at Hudson 817 00:35:25,745 --> 00:35:28,415 served as a medic during the first Gulf War? 818 00:35:28,498 --> 00:35:32,586 Okay. And that's meaningful because...? 819 00:35:32,669 --> 00:35:34,981 Because it means they have firsthand knowledge 820 00:35:35,005 --> 00:35:38,758 of the devastation biological and chemical weapons cause. 821 00:35:38,842 --> 00:35:41,887 No offense, but that hardly seems like enough 822 00:35:41,970 --> 00:35:43,930 to get a jury to change its mind. 823 00:35:44,014 --> 00:35:46,826 What if I told you this person was stationed in territory 824 00:35:46,850 --> 00:35:50,562 where Saddam Hussein was waging chemical and biological warfare 825 00:35:50,645 --> 00:35:53,732 against a large swath of civilians? 826 00:35:53,815 --> 00:35:56,765 Still kind of feels like we're making some big leaps here, 827 00:35:56,818 --> 00:35:57,903 don't you think? 828 00:35:57,986 --> 00:36:00,322 I don't know. 829 00:36:00,405 --> 00:36:03,742 Why does someone dedicate their life to finding an antidote 830 00:36:03,825 --> 00:36:05,577 to something like anthrax? 831 00:36:05,660 --> 00:36:07,913 We know why Natalie did it. 832 00:36:07,996 --> 00:36:11,917 She felt... a sense of obligation to her country. 833 00:36:13,710 --> 00:36:16,004 So, what if this person did it 834 00:36:16,087 --> 00:36:17,797 because they keenly understood 835 00:36:17,881 --> 00:36:21,426 that biological weapons were an imminent threat to the homeland? 836 00:36:21,510 --> 00:36:24,971 So, when Congress cut their funding for the research, 837 00:36:25,055 --> 00:36:27,724 they took matters into their own hands 838 00:36:27,807 --> 00:36:29,684 and decided the one 839 00:36:29,768 --> 00:36:32,497 or two deaths necessary to seize the public's imagination 840 00:36:32,521 --> 00:36:36,441 were a fair trade if it helped prevent a greater harm. 841 00:36:36,524 --> 00:36:39,819 So, you're saying the FBI had the right motive... 842 00:36:39,903 --> 00:36:42,781 Just pegged the wrong person. 843 00:36:44,199 --> 00:36:46,743 Who is this person? 844 00:36:46,826 --> 00:36:48,578 Roger Simpkins? 845 00:36:48,662 --> 00:36:50,455 Natalie's boss? 846 00:36:50,539 --> 00:36:53,166 The man who oversees the entire program? 847 00:36:53,250 --> 00:36:56,670 His position means he can come and go between labs by himself 848 00:36:56,753 --> 00:36:58,296 without raising suspicion, 849 00:36:58,380 --> 00:37:00,423 which means he has access 850 00:37:00,507 --> 00:37:01,758 to anthrax. 851 00:37:01,841 --> 00:37:03,152 Not to mention the know-how 852 00:37:03,176 --> 00:37:05,762 and the equipment to dry the spores with. 853 00:37:05,845 --> 00:37:07,782 Not only did Dr. Simpkins have the motive, 854 00:37:07,806 --> 00:37:10,117 the means, and the opportunity to commit this crime... 855 00:37:10,141 --> 00:37:11,869 He was also in the perfect position 856 00:37:11,893 --> 00:37:12,870 to frame Natalie Reznick. 857 00:37:12,894 --> 00:37:15,146 Natalie had to get her boss's okay 858 00:37:15,230 --> 00:37:16,499 before she wrote to that list 859 00:37:16,523 --> 00:37:19,252 of legislators and journalists in the wake of the budget cuts. 860 00:37:19,276 --> 00:37:20,944 Dr. Simpkins 861 00:37:21,027 --> 00:37:23,327 could easily have pulled Congressman Connors' 862 00:37:23,405 --> 00:37:27,158 and Allison Rojas' names from that list in an effort 863 00:37:27,242 --> 00:37:28,868 to make Natalie look guilty. 864 00:37:30,996 --> 00:37:32,163 I'm sorry, 865 00:37:32,247 --> 00:37:36,668 but none of this sounds terribly convincing. 866 00:37:36,751 --> 00:37:39,170 In fact, it sounds desperate, 867 00:37:39,254 --> 00:37:40,856 like you know you're about to lose 868 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,900 and you're throwing spaghetti on the wall, 869 00:37:42,924 --> 00:37:44,235 hoping something will stick. 870 00:37:44,259 --> 00:37:46,511 Look, I came to this meeting 871 00:37:46,594 --> 00:37:47,846 in good faith. 872 00:37:47,929 --> 00:37:49,556 But I got to tell you, 873 00:37:49,639 --> 00:37:52,392 I believe Natalie Reznick is guilty, 874 00:37:52,475 --> 00:37:54,352 and nothing I've heard here today 875 00:37:54,436 --> 00:37:57,480 even remotely begins to change my mind. 876 00:37:57,564 --> 00:37:59,750 Well, perhaps we should have skipped the warm-up then. 877 00:37:59,774 --> 00:38:03,028 Danny, the pièce de résistance, if you will. 878 00:38:07,824 --> 00:38:10,869 You recognize these images, Mr. Reynolds? 879 00:38:10,952 --> 00:38:11,762 Of course. 880 00:38:11,786 --> 00:38:13,586 Those are from the security footage 881 00:38:13,621 --> 00:38:17,375 the FBI lifted near the mailbox where the letters were sent. 882 00:38:17,459 --> 00:38:18,769 You were never able to identify Natalie 883 00:38:18,793 --> 00:38:20,503 in any of these photos, were you? 884 00:38:20,587 --> 00:38:22,106 Come on. Look at the time of year. 885 00:38:22,130 --> 00:38:23,840 Look how everyone is dressed. 886 00:38:23,923 --> 00:38:27,218 Nevertheless, we do believe one of them is Natalie. 887 00:38:27,302 --> 00:38:28,946 Well, in the same way you set out to prove 888 00:38:28,970 --> 00:38:29,989 one of them is Natalie, 889 00:38:30,013 --> 00:38:33,641 we set out to prove one of them is Dr. Simpkins. 890 00:38:35,226 --> 00:38:36,936 We widened the surveillance area 891 00:38:37,020 --> 00:38:38,956 and accessed all of the security cameras 892 00:38:38,980 --> 00:38:40,750 within a half-mile radius of the mailbox. 893 00:38:40,774 --> 00:38:42,585 Now, the FBI determined that there was 894 00:38:42,609 --> 00:38:45,695 an eight-hour window during which the letters were mailed. 895 00:38:45,779 --> 00:38:49,199 So, using a photograph of Dr. Simpkins' face, 896 00:38:49,282 --> 00:38:51,409 our office created an algorithm 897 00:38:51,493 --> 00:38:54,412 to scan all eight hours of the footage 898 00:38:54,496 --> 00:38:56,122 from every single camera. 899 00:38:57,123 --> 00:38:59,250 This is what we found. 900 00:38:59,334 --> 00:39:01,544 Recorded by an ATM about four blocks away 901 00:39:01,628 --> 00:39:03,755 from the mailbox. 902 00:39:03,838 --> 00:39:07,050 As you can see, that's Roger Simpkins. 903 00:39:07,133 --> 00:39:09,094 And you'll notice his hat 904 00:39:09,177 --> 00:39:11,721 perfectly matches this hat. 905 00:39:11,805 --> 00:39:13,890 In this photo. 906 00:39:13,973 --> 00:39:17,143 Where a person is clearly mailing letters. 907 00:39:17,227 --> 00:39:19,562 Letters which I would bet contain anthrax. 908 00:39:23,233 --> 00:39:24,818 Nice work. 909 00:39:28,405 --> 00:39:30,782 Well, I suppose the four of us 910 00:39:30,865 --> 00:39:32,843 should take a walk down to the judge's chambers, 911 00:39:32,867 --> 00:39:34,367 see if we can get an audience. 912 00:39:36,204 --> 00:39:38,557 If this isn't probable cause for a search warrant, 913 00:39:38,581 --> 00:39:40,542 I don't know what is. 914 00:39:45,839 --> 00:39:47,090 Look out there. 915 00:39:47,173 --> 00:39:48,758 You see a single face mask? 916 00:39:48,842 --> 00:39:50,135 Nope. 917 00:39:50,218 --> 00:39:51,695 Just people walking their dogs, 918 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,638 strolling their kids. 919 00:39:53,722 --> 00:39:56,099 Well, it's like we told the judge... 920 00:39:56,182 --> 00:39:58,282 The FBI searched Dr. Simpkins' apartment, 921 00:39:58,351 --> 00:40:00,538 only to discover it, too, had been bleached. 922 00:40:00,562 --> 00:40:03,106 Luckily, when they opened up the HVAC ducts, 923 00:40:03,189 --> 00:40:07,110 they found anthrax spores behind a vent in the kitchen. 924 00:40:07,193 --> 00:40:09,821 I still have a hard time believing it. 925 00:40:09,904 --> 00:40:11,614 We talked about it all the time. 926 00:40:11,698 --> 00:40:14,617 He kept saying how he wanted to help people, 927 00:40:14,701 --> 00:40:15,701 protect people. 928 00:40:15,743 --> 00:40:17,847 I'm sure he thought he was doing just that. 929 00:40:17,871 --> 00:40:20,290 Doing it for the greater good. 930 00:40:20,373 --> 00:40:23,710 You know, I guess that's why I like my work so much. 931 00:40:23,793 --> 00:40:26,546 Bacteria may be challenging, 932 00:40:26,629 --> 00:40:29,716 but they're a whole hell of a lot easier to understand 933 00:40:29,799 --> 00:40:31,801 than people. 934 00:40:31,825 --> 00:40:35,825 Synchrony by Serginhoedj