1 00:00:08,094 --> 00:00:10,009 [female reporter] Do you know the mood within the compound? 2 00:00:10,705 --> 00:00:12,403 Well, our intel is saying 3 00:00:12,446 --> 00:00:15,449 that people are starting to question their loyalty to Koresh. 4 00:00:15,493 --> 00:00:15,971 [voices overlapping] 5 00:00:16,537 --> 00:00:17,625 How many people are still inside? 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:20,324 -[camera shutter clicks] -We estimate 130. 7 00:00:20,846 --> 00:00:23,240 Is there any concern for the possibility of a mass suicide? 8 00:00:24,893 --> 00:00:26,852 All possibilities are a concern. 9 00:00:27,244 --> 00:00:30,290 Have you been talking to the White House about what's going on? 10 00:00:30,986 --> 00:00:33,641 Yes. They are apprised of the situation. 11 00:00:33,772 --> 00:00:36,166 Sir, what do think it will take for them to come out? 12 00:00:38,690 --> 00:00:40,431 [scoffs] Apparently, a sign from God. 13 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:43,608 [reporters clamoring] 14 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:47,481 [theme music playing] 15 00:01:18,730 --> 00:01:20,079 [Steve] I don't understand, Gary. 16 00:01:20,297 --> 00:01:23,604 -Why did you shut our power off? -Look, you gotta understand. 17 00:01:23,648 --> 00:01:26,912 The negotiators do not get 100% of the input, okay? 18 00:01:26,955 --> 00:01:29,132 The tactical side, they have a say in it, as well. 19 00:01:29,741 --> 00:01:31,482 Our position is moving forward. 20 00:01:32,744 --> 00:01:34,746 I thought we made a lot of progress yesterday 21 00:01:34,789 --> 00:01:36,574 delivering you that milk with Sheriff Harwell. 22 00:01:36,922 --> 00:01:38,663 [Steve] Me, too. Which is why I'm confused. 23 00:01:38,706 --> 00:01:41,622 I mean, you send in milk for the kids, then turn off the power 24 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,234 so it goes bad. I mean, where's the sense in that? 25 00:01:48,934 --> 00:01:50,979 My bosses have it in their minds 26 00:01:51,850 --> 00:01:53,982 that this might become another Jonestown. 27 00:01:54,331 --> 00:01:57,551 Another Jonestown? Wait a second. 28 00:01:57,856 --> 00:02:00,511 Do you think that we are going to kill ourselves? 29 00:02:00,859 --> 00:02:03,166 Well, frankly, Steve, I don't know what you're thinking. 30 00:02:03,601 --> 00:02:06,647 Gary, do you honestly believe that I would spend 31 00:02:06,691 --> 00:02:09,041 this much time on the phone with you if that was our plan? 32 00:02:09,607 --> 00:02:10,912 We're trying to find a solution. 33 00:02:11,565 --> 00:02:13,698 A solution that will take us back to the life we had 34 00:02:13,872 --> 00:02:15,352 before you came in here and ruined it. 35 00:02:15,700 --> 00:02:16,440 I am, too. 36 00:02:17,049 --> 00:02:18,659 Now, what I'd really like to do 37 00:02:18,703 --> 00:02:20,792 is take advantage of the good stuff 38 00:02:20,835 --> 00:02:23,186 that happened yesterday and keep moving forward. 39 00:02:23,534 --> 00:02:26,101 -Do you think we can do that? -Look. What I want you to do 40 00:02:26,145 --> 00:02:28,669 is tell our bosses we are not going to kill ourselves. 41 00:02:28,713 --> 00:02:29,975 That is not what we're about. 42 00:02:30,497 --> 00:02:31,019 I will. 43 00:02:32,847 --> 00:02:34,632 Is David there? I'd like to talk to him. 44 00:02:34,675 --> 00:02:36,068 David's not gonna talk to you again 45 00:02:36,111 --> 00:02:37,983 until you turn our electricity back on. 46 00:02:41,595 --> 00:02:44,032 [Prince] Lack of electricity makes them less comfortable 47 00:02:44,555 --> 00:02:46,078 and more willing to compromise. 48 00:02:46,209 --> 00:02:47,862 Under normal circumstances, yes. 49 00:02:47,906 --> 00:02:49,212 But these people, they already know 50 00:02:49,255 --> 00:02:50,213 how to live with nothing. 51 00:02:51,388 --> 00:02:52,780 All you're doing is pissing 'em off. 52 00:02:55,435 --> 00:02:57,263 -Mitch feels differently. -You know, sir, 53 00:02:57,307 --> 00:02:59,091 with you talking to Mitch and I separately, 54 00:03:00,005 --> 00:03:02,355 it feels like we're operating at cross purposes here. 55 00:03:02,442 --> 00:03:03,400 It's been nine days. 56 00:03:04,836 --> 00:03:06,359 How much longer do I let this go on? 57 00:03:07,795 --> 00:03:08,927 As long as it takes. 58 00:03:09,014 --> 00:03:10,755 Do you know what this is costing taxpayers? 59 00:03:10,842 --> 00:03:13,366 God damn it, I'm not worried about taxpayers right now. 60 00:03:14,106 --> 00:03:16,804 Gary, we need to bring this to a resolution. 61 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:17,718 Look... 62 00:03:20,417 --> 00:03:23,768 Koresh has been bullied his entire life. 63 00:03:23,811 --> 00:03:24,464 Here we go. 64 00:03:25,204 --> 00:03:27,511 The more you let HRT do what they did last night, 65 00:03:27,554 --> 00:03:28,816 the more he's gonna dig in. 66 00:03:29,164 --> 00:03:30,427 He's let people out. 67 00:03:30,601 --> 00:03:32,080 That shows he's willing to work with us. 68 00:03:32,124 --> 00:03:34,474 But we've gotta meet that with positive reinforcement, 69 00:03:34,518 --> 00:03:35,388 not punishment. 70 00:03:36,084 --> 00:03:38,217 You wanna train a dog to fetch your newspaper? 71 00:03:38,348 --> 00:03:39,740 Do you kick him in the balls 72 00:03:39,784 --> 00:03:41,264 every time he brings it back to ya? 73 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:42,439 No. 74 00:03:43,309 --> 00:03:44,441 I'm sorry, Tony. 75 00:03:45,659 --> 00:03:49,576 We both want the same thing. You know that, right? 76 00:03:49,707 --> 00:03:52,100 But in order to get it, we gotta turn the power back on! 77 00:03:54,973 --> 00:03:56,757 Whew. 78 00:03:59,020 --> 00:04:00,370 [splashing] 79 00:04:02,241 --> 00:04:03,590 [sniffles] 80 00:04:06,593 --> 00:04:07,507 -[Brad] Morning. -Morning. 81 00:04:29,137 --> 00:04:31,618 Your mom... it's sweet what she did. 82 00:04:32,619 --> 00:04:34,360 Yeah, it was kind of embarrassing. 83 00:04:36,319 --> 00:04:37,711 I wish my mom did something like that. 84 00:04:41,541 --> 00:04:43,891 -Yeah, what happened to her? -She left. 85 00:04:45,023 --> 00:04:46,981 Right after I joined the House of David. 86 00:04:49,114 --> 00:04:50,289 She didn't like how that happened. 87 00:04:52,291 --> 00:04:53,597 What-- what's that like? 88 00:04:57,340 --> 00:04:58,341 Being married to David? 89 00:05:02,997 --> 00:05:04,347 [chuckles] 90 00:05:08,263 --> 00:05:09,352 It's... 91 00:05:09,917 --> 00:05:10,483 it's like... 92 00:05:11,876 --> 00:05:15,009 being married to the most special person in the world. 93 00:05:17,882 --> 00:05:19,318 But not being special yourself. 94 00:05:25,716 --> 00:05:26,543 You're special to me. 95 00:05:30,721 --> 00:05:32,679 You're special to me, too. 96 00:05:38,293 --> 00:05:40,383 [Steve] David wants you to try and get that generator working. 97 00:05:41,471 --> 00:05:42,733 That thing hasn't worked forever. 98 00:05:43,081 --> 00:05:45,213 I know, but you know, do what you... 99 00:05:48,347 --> 00:05:50,393 [happy murmuring] 100 00:05:52,220 --> 00:05:54,005 [Steve] Hey! I take that back. 101 00:05:56,268 --> 00:05:57,922 [claps] Hey, Thibs, will you turn that up for me? 102 00:05:58,792 --> 00:06:01,099 [TV news anchor] Still no sign of surrender. Robert... 103 00:06:01,142 --> 00:06:03,144 See what they're saying about us now. 104 00:06:03,188 --> 00:06:05,408 ...joins us now live with the latest. Robert? 105 00:06:05,451 --> 00:06:08,411 We've just learned that the Branch Davidians who left Mt. Carmel 106 00:06:08,454 --> 00:06:09,847 have been arrested. 107 00:06:10,238 --> 00:06:12,806 Also, a judge has declared those remaining inside 108 00:06:12,850 --> 00:06:14,329 to be unfit parents. 109 00:06:14,765 --> 00:06:16,462 Child Services has been brought in 110 00:06:16,506 --> 00:06:18,595 to handle the situation as it unfolds. 111 00:06:18,812 --> 00:06:21,293 [David] How dare you call us "unfit parents"? 112 00:06:21,641 --> 00:06:23,600 When was the last time you saw your kids, Gary? 113 00:06:24,252 --> 00:06:25,732 I see mine every day. 114 00:06:27,255 --> 00:06:29,649 The judge doesn't know you or your people, David. 115 00:06:30,911 --> 00:06:33,348 Which is why you need to come out and tell your side of things. 116 00:06:33,479 --> 00:06:35,742 Oh, I'd love to tell my side of things, Gary, 117 00:06:35,786 --> 00:06:37,396 but you won't let us speak to the press. 118 00:06:37,788 --> 00:06:40,094 Every time I turn that TV on, 119 00:06:40,138 --> 00:06:42,140 all I see is "David Koresh, the fanatic. 120 00:06:42,445 --> 00:06:44,447 David Koresh, the antagonist." 121 00:06:44,490 --> 00:06:45,622 Well, from what I can see, 122 00:06:45,665 --> 00:06:47,275 there's an awful lot of sympathy for you 123 00:06:47,319 --> 00:06:49,060 and a lot of anger towards the ATF 124 00:06:49,103 --> 00:06:50,278 in all parts of the country. 125 00:06:51,323 --> 00:06:55,806 It's in your interest to come out now, and not have that sentiment turn. 126 00:06:55,980 --> 00:06:58,722 You know, you sure like putting all the pressure on us to come out, 127 00:06:59,070 --> 00:07:01,638 when what you should be doing is just back off. 128 00:07:01,855 --> 00:07:03,378 Let time take its toll. 129 00:07:03,422 --> 00:07:04,467 Do you understand? 130 00:07:04,771 --> 00:07:06,643 It's not our desire to die in here, Gary. 131 00:07:06,686 --> 00:07:07,470 I understand, 132 00:07:08,079 --> 00:07:09,602 and I've been trying to buy time with my bosses, 133 00:07:09,646 --> 00:07:11,865 -but it's very difficult-- -Buy time for what? 134 00:07:11,996 --> 00:07:13,519 Before you come in here full force? 135 00:07:14,651 --> 00:07:15,695 [Gary] No. Buy the time... 136 00:07:16,261 --> 00:07:17,175 you need, you know, 137 00:07:17,218 --> 00:07:20,526 to pray and talk to your God. 138 00:07:24,661 --> 00:07:25,400 Tell me, Gary... 139 00:07:26,967 --> 00:07:27,707 who's your God? 140 00:07:29,274 --> 00:07:30,797 You do believe in God, don't ya? 141 00:07:34,235 --> 00:07:35,672 I don't know what I believe. 142 00:07:35,759 --> 00:07:37,717 [David] Well, how do you think all this started, Gary? 143 00:07:38,849 --> 00:07:40,894 Do you think i-it's all just random? 144 00:07:41,242 --> 00:07:42,983 It's all one big coincidence? 145 00:07:43,636 --> 00:07:47,858 That a proton collided with a neutron and that's how it all got started? 146 00:07:48,249 --> 00:07:52,079 Well, who created that proton, Gary? Who created that neutron? 147 00:07:53,559 --> 00:07:55,822 How did the universe get this possibility? 148 00:08:00,044 --> 00:08:02,655 The kids, David-- let's talk about sending more of 'em out. 149 00:08:03,264 --> 00:08:05,223 [David] Gary, I know. 150 00:08:05,745 --> 00:08:07,791 I know you don't like talking about religion. 151 00:08:08,705 --> 00:08:10,533 But religion is all I am. 152 00:08:10,924 --> 00:08:13,361 -Right, but the kids are what-- -Listen to me! 153 00:08:14,711 --> 00:08:18,279 Listen. Listen carefully. These kids in here are my children, 154 00:08:18,453 --> 00:08:19,716 and they ain't coming out! 155 00:08:20,934 --> 00:08:23,197 Especially to someone who doesn't even believe in God. 156 00:08:24,242 --> 00:08:25,199 [handset slams] 157 00:08:29,464 --> 00:08:31,162 [tapping in rhythm] 158 00:08:33,251 --> 00:08:34,731 [drumming] 159 00:08:35,862 --> 00:08:36,341 That's hard. 160 00:08:37,995 --> 00:08:39,866 Well, everything's hard until you practice it, right? 161 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:41,738 -[faint whirring] -Trust me. 162 00:08:41,781 --> 00:08:44,001 By your birthday, I'm gonna have you playing like John Bonham. 163 00:08:44,044 --> 00:08:46,438 [whirring] 164 00:08:47,395 --> 00:08:49,659 [aircraft engine buzzing, fades] 165 00:08:52,662 --> 00:08:54,707 Are you gonna leave us, Thibodeau? 166 00:08:58,668 --> 00:08:59,451 Let's try again. 167 00:08:59,494 --> 00:09:00,017 [kids laughing and talking] 168 00:09:00,583 --> 00:09:05,762 Do these kids seem abused to you? 169 00:09:06,719 --> 00:09:08,199 -No, they sure don't. -Yeah. 170 00:09:08,895 --> 00:09:11,115 I've seen abused kids. They don't act like this. 171 00:09:13,247 --> 00:09:14,248 [Gary] These children are loved. 172 00:09:15,641 --> 00:09:18,296 Their parents must be suffering to be without 'em. 173 00:09:18,513 --> 00:09:20,428 But Koresh won't send out any more kids. 174 00:09:20,472 --> 00:09:22,256 We need to start working on the parents. 175 00:09:22,822 --> 00:09:24,607 Okay. How do we do that? 176 00:09:26,957 --> 00:09:27,740 Go get the camera. 177 00:09:28,785 --> 00:09:30,830 [kids chatting and laughing] 178 00:09:44,061 --> 00:09:45,758 What? 179 00:09:48,456 --> 00:09:50,545 [phone rings] 180 00:09:53,113 --> 00:09:54,898 [monitor beeps] 181 00:09:55,594 --> 00:09:57,291 -Hello. -[Kathy] You lied to me. 182 00:09:58,771 --> 00:10:00,033 -Who's this? -Kathy Schroeder. 183 00:10:00,817 --> 00:10:02,209 I saw that tape you sent. 184 00:10:02,340 --> 00:10:05,648 I gave my children over to you and you lied to me! 185 00:10:06,213 --> 00:10:06,823 -[clicks] -Get Gary! 186 00:10:09,477 --> 00:10:12,437 Uh, I'm sorry, Kathy. You have me at a bit of a disadvantage. 187 00:10:12,655 --> 00:10:14,134 I'm not sure what we're talking about here. 188 00:10:14,395 --> 00:10:16,920 Danny! I mean, where are his brothers? 189 00:10:17,094 --> 00:10:21,359 They're supposed to be together! Danny is only three and he's all alone! 190 00:10:21,402 --> 00:10:23,230 I don't know why your sons would be separated. 191 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:24,318 Wait. 192 00:10:27,191 --> 00:10:29,846 The father took them. Now, why didn't he take Danny? 193 00:10:29,933 --> 00:10:31,325 Well, Danny's not his. 194 00:10:32,196 --> 00:10:34,851 He belongs to Mike. You know, my second husband... 195 00:10:35,068 --> 00:10:37,810 who you killed? 196 00:10:37,854 --> 00:10:38,332 [Walter] Oh. 197 00:10:39,116 --> 00:10:41,771 I need you to get Danny to his brothers. 198 00:10:42,380 --> 00:10:45,818 Okay? They'll look after him. I need you to make Dale understand. 199 00:10:46,210 --> 00:10:49,387 Kathy, your first husband has no legal right to Danny. 200 00:10:49,648 --> 00:10:51,737 Well, nobody told me that! You-- 201 00:10:52,825 --> 00:10:55,959 God, you guys are like--! I mean, first you killed Mike, 202 00:10:56,568 --> 00:10:58,396 and now Danny's just all alone! 203 00:10:58,526 --> 00:11:00,137 [sobs] This is not right. 204 00:11:00,267 --> 00:11:03,227 -[sobbing] This isnot right. -Kathy... 205 00:11:03,357 --> 00:11:06,447 I'm so sorry. I can only imagine what you're going through. 206 00:11:08,058 --> 00:11:09,842 But sometimes when it comes to children, 207 00:11:09,886 --> 00:11:12,540 it's necessary to set aside what we need 208 00:11:13,150 --> 00:11:14,020 for their needs. 209 00:11:15,195 --> 00:11:16,022 And right now... 210 00:11:17,241 --> 00:11:18,721 you know what Danny needs most... 211 00:11:20,548 --> 00:11:21,724 is a hug from his mommy. 212 00:11:28,861 --> 00:11:30,645 [Kathy sobbing] 213 00:11:33,648 --> 00:11:36,173 -Shh... -[Kathy gasps, sniffles] 214 00:11:36,303 --> 00:11:38,305 [whimpers] God...! 215 00:11:43,354 --> 00:11:44,747 Okay. 216 00:11:47,401 --> 00:11:50,491 [Kathy sighs] Okay. 217 00:11:50,535 --> 00:11:51,188 I'm coming out. 218 00:11:55,105 --> 00:11:56,236 [handset clicks] 219 00:11:58,108 --> 00:11:59,631 Whew. [sniffles] 220 00:12:07,987 --> 00:12:08,771 [sobs] I'm sorry. 221 00:12:21,087 --> 00:12:23,220 [Ron Engelman] The ATF believe these guys 222 00:12:23,263 --> 00:12:26,614 were converting semiautomatic weapons into automatics. 223 00:12:27,180 --> 00:12:30,314 Now, in Texas, that's illegal. Unless... 224 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:35,232 you purchase a $25 permit, in which case, it's fine. 225 00:12:35,362 --> 00:12:38,017 This is Ron Engelman, reminding you to pay your parking tickets, 226 00:12:38,061 --> 00:12:42,326 because the ATF is in town and they're hunting Americans. 227 00:12:47,157 --> 00:12:49,376 I noticed you've been sleeping in your car the last few nights. 228 00:12:50,813 --> 00:12:52,597 Yeah, well, there's a lot of press in town. 229 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,294 I can't get a room at a decent rate. 230 00:12:54,338 --> 00:12:55,078 I got a room. 231 00:12:55,730 --> 00:12:57,384 With two beds in it, if you like. 232 00:12:58,211 --> 00:13:01,127 Thank you, but I... got myself a pillow 233 00:13:01,171 --> 00:13:02,563 and my seat folds all the way back. 234 00:13:02,607 --> 00:13:04,696 -So, I'm good. -Okay. Look. 235 00:13:05,175 --> 00:13:08,178 I know you blame me for everything that's happened. 236 00:13:08,352 --> 00:13:10,702 And I'll be the first to admit I was not the best mother. 237 00:13:12,356 --> 00:13:14,140 I had David when I was 14. 238 00:13:15,402 --> 00:13:19,232 It's no excuse, but what 14-year-old knows how to raise a child? 239 00:13:20,364 --> 00:13:23,715 We don't have the luxury to not like one another. 240 00:13:23,976 --> 00:13:28,154 We both want the same thing. We both want our boys to come out of there. 241 00:13:34,030 --> 00:13:36,597 Okay. Okay. 242 00:13:36,771 --> 00:13:38,295 I had my son when I was 16. 243 00:13:43,474 --> 00:13:44,779 I didn't have it figured out either. 244 00:13:47,826 --> 00:13:50,785 My offer stands if you change your mind. 245 00:13:52,396 --> 00:13:55,660 It's room 47. Okay? 246 00:13:58,054 --> 00:13:59,969 [sighs] 247 00:14:00,012 --> 00:14:01,535 [Thibodeau] Serenity mentioned it's her birthday next week. 248 00:14:02,058 --> 00:14:03,146 You planning anything? 249 00:14:03,494 --> 00:14:05,713 It's not really an appropriate time to celebrate. 250 00:14:07,019 --> 00:14:10,544 That's not how it works. Can't not have a party on your birthday. 251 00:14:13,939 --> 00:14:15,201 Everyone's spirit's down. 252 00:14:16,550 --> 00:14:17,769 All the more reason to lift it up. 253 00:14:18,770 --> 00:14:19,727 I can help you plan something-- 254 00:14:19,771 --> 00:14:21,033 Thanks, Thibs, but not now, okay? 255 00:14:23,383 --> 00:14:24,732 I'm sorry. Just not now. 256 00:14:27,866 --> 00:14:29,737 Uh... 257 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,222 [David] Kathy, put your heart to wisdom. 258 00:14:37,484 --> 00:14:38,224 Think this through. 259 00:14:41,445 --> 00:14:43,186 These are the people that murdered your husband. 260 00:14:45,144 --> 00:14:45,710 I know. 261 00:14:46,450 --> 00:14:49,540 [Kathy sighs] It... it's not an easy decision, 262 00:14:49,583 --> 00:14:51,759 but Danny needs me. 263 00:14:53,152 --> 00:14:55,459 Well, if your desire is stronger than your loyalty to God, 264 00:14:55,589 --> 00:14:56,764 then we have our answer, don't we? 265 00:14:56,895 --> 00:14:57,765 David... 266 00:14:57,809 --> 00:14:59,811 I know God is here. I know that. 267 00:15:00,681 --> 00:15:03,554 -It's-- it's all coming true-- -If you're gonna go, go. 268 00:15:04,685 --> 00:15:07,471 If you're looking for my blessing, you ain't getting it. 269 00:15:11,605 --> 00:15:12,084 Go. 270 00:15:14,739 --> 00:15:15,914 -Go on. -[sighs] 271 00:15:26,751 --> 00:15:28,448 -Take Brad with you. -Me? 272 00:15:31,451 --> 00:15:34,106 I heard you were drinking. Is that the truth? 273 00:15:36,065 --> 00:15:37,544 [David] We are all one body here. 274 00:15:38,067 --> 00:15:41,157 And for that body to work properly, we all need to be in harmony. 275 00:15:41,679 --> 00:15:43,333 If one fingerisn't working, 276 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,336 or if someone decides to go out on their own-- 277 00:15:46,727 --> 00:15:48,338 -David-- -then we're allout of harmony. 278 00:15:49,208 --> 00:15:52,124 This is God's test, and you failed miserably. 279 00:15:52,342 --> 00:15:53,952 -[Rachel] Calm down. -Don't tell me to calm down. 280 00:15:53,996 --> 00:15:54,997 I'm protecting us. 281 00:16:00,611 --> 00:16:01,307 You're done here. 282 00:16:03,614 --> 00:16:05,137 Steve, let 'em out. 283 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,272 [whispers] Kathy... 284 00:16:24,374 --> 00:16:25,288 Sir, do you copy? 285 00:16:26,419 --> 00:16:28,726 [sniper over radio] I have two targets in my view. Over. 286 00:16:29,335 --> 00:16:30,858 [radio transmission] 287 00:16:55,405 --> 00:16:59,235 [David's voice] Whoa, whoa, whoa! Everyone! Just calm down! 288 00:16:59,365 --> 00:17:02,412 [agent's voice] Keep your hands in the air and get on the ground, now! 289 00:17:02,542 --> 00:17:05,371 [footsteps approaching] 290 00:17:08,592 --> 00:17:09,419 I was right there. 291 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,687 -I tried to stop it. -[Judy] I know you did. 292 00:17:24,216 --> 00:17:25,565 [soft chuckle] 293 00:17:29,265 --> 00:17:30,918 God's not speaking to me anymore. 294 00:17:34,226 --> 00:17:36,098 I have no idea what I'm gonna do. 295 00:17:41,233 --> 00:17:42,756 You know, you always say 296 00:17:44,628 --> 00:17:46,630 "To trust God in the light's easy, but... 297 00:17:46,978 --> 00:17:48,762 to trust Him in the dark, that's faith." 298 00:17:52,984 --> 00:17:54,333 [David sighs] 299 00:18:01,427 --> 00:18:03,777 [wind whistling] 300 00:18:06,519 --> 00:18:08,782 [rumbling] 301 00:18:09,957 --> 00:18:11,611 [crashes] 302 00:18:18,966 --> 00:18:21,404 -What's happening? -I don't know? 303 00:18:43,687 --> 00:18:45,645 [David] Everything you tell me is a lie, Gary. 304 00:18:46,342 --> 00:18:48,170 No, Everything I tell you is not a lie. 305 00:18:48,213 --> 00:18:51,477 I'm not the one who drove that vehicle onto your property, David. 306 00:18:51,695 --> 00:18:54,088 [David] I don't wanna hear it. We aren't afraid of the government. 307 00:18:54,393 --> 00:18:55,960 Big Brother wants to come in here and fight, 308 00:18:56,003 --> 00:18:57,179 we will fight back. 309 00:18:58,136 --> 00:18:59,659 I think we've proven that before. 310 00:18:59,920 --> 00:19:02,401 And as long as our flag is still flying, I'm gonna defend it. 311 00:19:03,010 --> 00:19:04,534 As an American citizen, 312 00:19:04,795 --> 00:19:07,101 anyone that steps on my property, 313 00:19:07,145 --> 00:19:09,800 anyone that destroys my property, is gonna get their ass whupped. 314 00:19:10,104 --> 00:19:12,933 Look, I would feel exactly the same way if I was in your position. 315 00:19:12,977 --> 00:19:16,241 But, the thing is, these guys are frustrated, too. 316 00:19:17,416 --> 00:19:20,158 And they don't wanna be here any more than you want them here. 317 00:19:20,593 --> 00:19:23,466 But try as I might, I cannot get them to understand 318 00:19:23,509 --> 00:19:25,598 somebody waiting for a sign from God. 319 00:19:26,425 --> 00:19:28,862 It's just not part of their worldview. 320 00:19:33,258 --> 00:19:34,694 I get that, Gary. 321 00:19:35,217 --> 00:19:37,436 But we can get through this if we work together, okay? 322 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:41,527 Now I want you to sit tight. I'm gonna go talk to my bosses 323 00:19:41,571 --> 00:19:43,442 and try and get those tanks off your property. 324 00:19:43,486 --> 00:19:44,791 [Gary] Okay? 325 00:19:47,316 --> 00:19:49,361 Okay. All right. 326 00:19:51,015 --> 00:19:52,712 -[handset clicks] -[sighs] 327 00:19:52,973 --> 00:19:54,845 [Gary] Do you realize I'm getting all my information 328 00:19:54,888 --> 00:19:56,803 about what we're doing from the Branch Davidians? 329 00:19:59,197 --> 00:20:00,459 Maybe you should move in with them. 330 00:20:00,590 --> 00:20:01,895 God damn it! 331 00:20:03,332 --> 00:20:05,377 Why did you send that damn tank in there? 332 00:20:07,553 --> 00:20:09,642 Because when I went to pick up those people, 333 00:20:10,556 --> 00:20:14,560 I noticed several vantage points where they could hide and fire on our agents. 334 00:20:15,126 --> 00:20:16,910 I had to mitigate their strategic advantage. 335 00:20:16,954 --> 00:20:19,348 You didn't try to "mitigate their strategic advantage." 336 00:20:19,391 --> 00:20:22,046 You're trying to irritate them into coming out! 337 00:20:22,829 --> 00:20:24,483 It's not a winning strategy! 338 00:20:25,049 --> 00:20:28,095 What's not a winning strategy is "waiting for a sign from God." 339 00:20:29,271 --> 00:20:30,402 -Sir, I-- -[Prince] No. 340 00:20:31,229 --> 00:20:35,364 I'm tired of buying you time. You need to tell them to come out. 341 00:20:35,886 --> 00:20:37,627 [Prince] It's been 17 days, Gary. 342 00:20:38,018 --> 00:20:39,846 -I've been pushing 'em. -Not hard enough. 343 00:20:40,586 --> 00:20:43,285 I'm under an awful lot of pressure to get them out. 344 00:20:43,937 --> 00:20:47,071 I have the attorney general and every politician in Washington 345 00:20:47,158 --> 00:20:48,464 breathing down my neck! 346 00:20:49,813 --> 00:20:52,294 I want them outta there by tomorrow morning! 347 00:20:53,207 --> 00:20:55,601 I can't give 'em a deadline. I've tried that before. 348 00:20:55,645 --> 00:20:57,473 It doesn't work. Now, time is on our side-- 349 00:20:57,516 --> 00:21:00,563 Time is noton our side. Now, give them the deadline. Now. 350 00:21:05,481 --> 00:21:05,959 No. 351 00:21:09,267 --> 00:21:10,050 I won't do that. 352 00:21:18,015 --> 00:21:19,277 Get Koresh on the phone. 353 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:21,975 Whoa, Tony. What are you doing? 354 00:21:22,672 --> 00:21:23,194 Hey... 355 00:21:24,891 --> 00:21:27,154 [phone ringing] 356 00:21:32,638 --> 00:21:33,160 Hello? 357 00:21:33,509 --> 00:21:35,075 -[Prince] David? -Yes? 358 00:21:35,554 --> 00:21:37,991 This is Tony Prince, Special Agent in Charge for the FBI. 359 00:21:39,732 --> 00:21:41,517 If you don't come out of there by morning... 360 00:21:42,474 --> 00:21:46,348 certain actions will be taken against you and your people. 361 00:21:49,046 --> 00:21:50,482 That's not a threat, it's a promise. 362 00:21:50,917 --> 00:21:51,657 [handset slams] 363 00:21:51,831 --> 00:21:53,572 [line hums] 364 00:22:05,018 --> 00:22:06,498 [music playing] 365 00:22:06,542 --> 00:22:08,848 [announcer] This is the CBS Evening News. 366 00:22:10,937 --> 00:22:12,374 Good evening, Dan Rather reporting. 367 00:22:12,678 --> 00:22:15,202 That heavily-armed cult in central Texas 368 00:22:15,246 --> 00:22:17,204 is showing no signs of surrender. 369 00:22:17,248 --> 00:22:19,424 Indeed, it shows all signs of defiance. 370 00:22:19,729 --> 00:22:22,862 Vicki Mabrey is on the scene covering for us near Waco, Texas. 371 00:22:23,428 --> 00:22:26,126 [Mabrey] The standoff outside the Branch Davidian compound 372 00:22:26,170 --> 00:22:28,433 has become a psychological power struggle 373 00:22:28,477 --> 00:22:31,262 between federal agents and cult leader David Koresh. 374 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,004 The FBI is restocking its own arsenal, 375 00:22:34,047 --> 00:22:36,572 borrowing Abrams tanks from the defense department. 376 00:22:36,615 --> 00:22:38,443 Now, sources tell CBS News 377 00:22:38,487 --> 00:22:41,751 that federal agents don't plan to let this go on indefinitely. 378 00:22:41,881 --> 00:22:44,101 Their frustration level is very high 379 00:22:44,231 --> 00:22:46,495 and if negotiations are not more fruitful, 380 00:22:46,712 --> 00:22:48,758 they may take action by this weekend. 381 00:22:49,454 --> 00:22:52,631 I think we should probably just prepare everyone for another attack. 382 00:22:52,675 --> 00:22:54,111 We don't know they're going to do that. 383 00:22:54,633 --> 00:22:56,069 Yeah, but we don't know that they're not. 384 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:57,984 Steve, what do you think that they are gonna do? 385 00:22:58,028 --> 00:22:59,029 We can just leave. 386 00:22:59,899 --> 00:23:02,641 The minute we walk out those doors, we're admitting guilt. 387 00:23:02,772 --> 00:23:05,209 I don't know, guilt versus death. Is there a decision? 388 00:23:05,514 --> 00:23:07,254 Yeah. Spending the rest of your life in jail, 389 00:23:07,777 --> 00:23:09,953 or death. Some decision. 390 00:23:10,083 --> 00:23:11,084 This is why we need a lawyer. 391 00:23:11,433 --> 00:23:13,739 -No offense, Wayne. -None taken. 392 00:23:14,087 --> 00:23:15,611 [Judy] Well, they barely gave us milk. 393 00:23:15,654 --> 00:23:17,351 Do you think they're gonna give us a lawyer? 394 00:23:17,569 --> 00:23:20,093 No, Judy's right. The chances of that are as good as them-- 395 00:23:20,529 --> 00:23:21,573 [door opening] 396 00:23:23,183 --> 00:23:24,968 Hey, David. 397 00:23:26,143 --> 00:23:26,752 What's going on? 398 00:23:28,493 --> 00:23:31,322 -We're just talking. -About...? 399 00:23:33,150 --> 00:23:36,066 -About our options. -Options? 400 00:23:36,632 --> 00:23:38,808 -Mm-hmm. -[David] Steven... 401 00:23:39,243 --> 00:23:41,375 you of all people know there's only one option. 402 00:23:45,118 --> 00:23:46,642 Wayne... 403 00:23:46,685 --> 00:23:48,470 you wanna go out there, be with your family? 404 00:23:49,340 --> 00:23:51,429 Or do you wanna feel the hand of God? 405 00:23:52,169 --> 00:23:53,300 You are my family, David. 406 00:23:56,173 --> 00:23:58,610 Judy, do you wanna stay or do you wanna leave? 407 00:23:59,698 --> 00:24:01,091 I don't wanna leave without you. 408 00:24:02,875 --> 00:24:03,963 Thibodeau? 409 00:24:06,009 --> 00:24:07,663 Go on. Take the easy way out. 410 00:24:10,535 --> 00:24:12,015 -I... -[Rachel] David. 411 00:24:12,058 --> 00:24:13,973 You owe it to us to tell us what you're thinking. 412 00:24:14,321 --> 00:24:17,150 No. I owe you nothing. 413 00:24:18,630 --> 00:24:20,153 [sighs] 414 00:24:21,590 --> 00:24:23,417 You are not the only one that's suffering here. 415 00:24:24,897 --> 00:24:28,640 -Don't you forget that. -Don't forget... why we're here. 416 00:24:29,511 --> 00:24:30,773 This is our "withering." 417 00:24:33,515 --> 00:24:35,081 Y'all wanna miss out on the miracle? 418 00:24:38,215 --> 00:24:39,085 Be my guest. 419 00:24:49,182 --> 00:24:50,357 Get outta my chapel. 420 00:24:57,756 --> 00:25:00,280 Sir, I apologize for my outburst, but I'd... 421 00:25:01,673 --> 00:25:04,415 I'd really appreciate if you'd reconsider your ultimatum. 422 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:08,375 Gary, please sit down. 423 00:25:14,425 --> 00:25:15,469 [Prince] How many kids do you have? 424 00:25:17,950 --> 00:25:19,822 -Three. -I have two myself. 425 00:25:21,606 --> 00:25:25,567 Your wife, uh... she understands the job? 426 00:25:26,655 --> 00:25:30,267 Well, she was a secretary in the Bureau when we met, so she gets it. 427 00:25:30,659 --> 00:25:32,095 Oh. 428 00:25:32,138 --> 00:25:32,878 My wife, she... [chuckles] 429 00:25:34,271 --> 00:25:37,840 she pretends to get it. But she doesn't. 430 00:25:40,669 --> 00:25:43,672 -Where did you grow up? -Atlantic Beach, Florida. 431 00:25:43,802 --> 00:25:45,587 Now, uh, sir, I'd really like to-- 432 00:25:45,630 --> 00:25:46,109 What? 433 00:25:46,979 --> 00:25:48,459 Move this conversation along? 434 00:25:51,244 --> 00:25:52,898 What if I just wanna sit here and talk? 435 00:25:55,814 --> 00:25:56,467 [chuckles] For hours? 436 00:25:57,294 --> 00:25:59,644 What if we just talked and talked, but then, 437 00:25:59,818 --> 00:26:01,341 after all that, I decided 438 00:26:02,038 --> 00:26:04,606 not to give you the response you came in here looking for? 439 00:26:06,695 --> 00:26:09,001 That would be frustrating, wouldn't it? 440 00:26:10,176 --> 00:26:13,049 Sir, one of the main principles I try to teach my students 441 00:26:13,092 --> 00:26:17,270 who wanna be negotiators is to never, ever start a clock 442 00:26:17,314 --> 00:26:19,490 because it gives the person on the other end 443 00:26:19,533 --> 00:26:21,710 the opportunity to make the wrong decision. 444 00:26:22,101 --> 00:26:23,537 We're not in a classroom here, Gary. 445 00:26:24,626 --> 00:26:26,758 And the principles that you apply 446 00:26:26,802 --> 00:26:30,632 to hypothetical situations, well... 447 00:26:30,762 --> 00:26:31,458 they don't always work. 448 00:26:32,546 --> 00:26:33,678 We're at an impasse here. 449 00:26:35,027 --> 00:26:39,466 And your "trickle-flow-gush" theory-- albeit a good one-- 450 00:26:40,163 --> 00:26:43,775 well... that doesn't seem to be working either. 451 00:26:44,036 --> 00:26:45,647 So, what's your plan, then? 452 00:26:46,735 --> 00:26:47,779 It's time to apply pressure. 453 00:26:48,954 --> 00:26:51,870 Decker wants to start implementing psy-ops to get them out. 454 00:26:53,524 --> 00:26:55,221 You wanna psychologically torture them? 455 00:26:55,265 --> 00:26:56,788 It's not torture. 456 00:26:56,832 --> 00:26:58,007 It's a safe way to push them. 457 00:26:58,790 --> 00:27:01,575 This is not an FBI-sanctioned strategy. You do understand that, right? 458 00:27:01,619 --> 00:27:03,099 Don't think I haven't thought this through. 459 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,493 I'm in a difficult position here, Gary. 460 00:27:07,277 --> 00:27:09,540 All right, so, uh, you know... 461 00:27:10,019 --> 00:27:11,847 just for shits and giggles, let me get this straight. 462 00:27:12,238 --> 00:27:15,764 You wanna take a guy that we're fairly certain is unstable to begin with... 463 00:27:17,679 --> 00:27:19,855 and you're gonna attempt to drive him crazy 464 00:27:20,682 --> 00:27:22,379 with psychological pressure, 465 00:27:23,293 --> 00:27:25,164 in hopes that somehow 466 00:27:25,730 --> 00:27:28,167 that will suddenly make him more reasonable? 467 00:27:31,083 --> 00:27:34,521 You've been requesting an open flow of communication since you got here. 468 00:27:37,133 --> 00:27:38,090 I just gave it to ya. 469 00:27:45,141 --> 00:27:46,882 [Gary] My commander, David, I spoke to him. 470 00:27:46,925 --> 00:27:49,101 He's not gonna back down on this ultimatum. 471 00:27:50,102 --> 00:27:52,322 [David] Yeah, well, we're not backing down either, Gary. 472 00:27:54,454 --> 00:27:55,804 David, I'm gonna try something here. 473 00:27:55,891 --> 00:27:56,718 I wanna talk to ya 474 00:27:58,197 --> 00:28:00,460 not like "Gary, the FBI agent," but... 475 00:28:01,374 --> 00:28:02,506 like I was your friend. 476 00:28:03,420 --> 00:28:05,727 And I want you to listen to what I'm gonna say. 477 00:28:07,163 --> 00:28:09,861 As if a friend was saying it to you. 478 00:28:12,951 --> 00:28:13,517 [Gary] Come out. 479 00:28:15,214 --> 00:28:17,564 Just come out before it gets any worse. 480 00:28:19,610 --> 00:28:21,177 That's my friendly advice. 481 00:28:22,395 --> 00:28:23,701 I appreciate that, Gary. 482 00:28:25,094 --> 00:28:27,313 And I want this to be over just as much as you do. 483 00:28:28,227 --> 00:28:30,099 You think I like being in this place like this? 484 00:28:30,577 --> 00:28:32,666 I don't. It's awful. 485 00:28:33,189 --> 00:28:36,279 [David] You have no idea what I'd give to have a hot shower right now. 486 00:28:36,801 --> 00:28:38,368 It can be over, David. 487 00:28:39,282 --> 00:28:42,067 You have the ability to make it be over. 488 00:28:42,676 --> 00:28:43,286 I'm trying. 489 00:28:44,853 --> 00:28:46,332 I'm trying to connect with God. 490 00:28:47,681 --> 00:28:49,727 And I'm not just giving you the runaround either, Gary. 491 00:28:50,075 --> 00:28:50,597 I know. 492 00:28:53,687 --> 00:28:56,603 Well, I just want you to know, whatever happens from here on out... 493 00:28:58,257 --> 00:28:59,215 I'm trying, too. 494 00:29:01,957 --> 00:29:02,653 I know you are. 495 00:29:04,437 --> 00:29:04,916 I know. 496 00:29:09,181 --> 00:29:11,009 [line clicks] 497 00:29:12,576 --> 00:29:13,925 [crickets chirping] 498 00:29:16,058 --> 00:29:17,842 [drumming] 499 00:29:19,017 --> 00:29:21,019 -[cymbal rings] -Okay, yeah. 500 00:29:22,020 --> 00:29:23,152 [Thibodeau] All right. It's almost bedtime. 501 00:29:23,239 --> 00:29:25,632 But before you go, I have something for you. 502 00:29:25,676 --> 00:29:27,330 [Serenity] What is it? 503 00:29:27,809 --> 00:29:28,679 Happy birthday. 504 00:29:29,506 --> 00:29:32,465 Go ahead, make a wish, and blow it out. 505 00:29:32,509 --> 00:29:33,771 [puffs] 506 00:29:33,815 --> 00:29:34,816 [Michelle] What's going on here? 507 00:29:36,208 --> 00:29:37,993 Uh, we're just having a little party. 508 00:29:38,167 --> 00:29:39,385 Because it's my birthday. 509 00:29:39,429 --> 00:29:40,778 I know it is. [chuckles] 510 00:29:42,214 --> 00:29:43,737 It's time to go to bed, all right? 511 00:29:43,781 --> 00:29:45,478 Wait. She has to open her present first. 512 00:29:49,178 --> 00:29:52,268 [Michelle gasps] Wow. It's so pretty. 513 00:29:52,398 --> 00:29:54,444 -What is it? -It's a drum key. 514 00:29:55,793 --> 00:29:57,229 If you're gonna be a rock star someday, 515 00:29:57,273 --> 00:29:59,362 gotta know how to tune a drum, right? 516 00:30:02,060 --> 00:30:02,669 -Hmm. -[Thibodeau] You like it? 517 00:30:03,540 --> 00:30:04,541 -Yeah. -[Michelle] What do you say? 518 00:30:04,758 --> 00:30:07,152 -Thank you, Thibodeau. -Aw, you're welcome. 519 00:30:09,154 --> 00:30:10,721 -[lights click] -[Michelle gasps] 520 00:30:10,764 --> 00:30:11,678 [Serenity] What's happening? 521 00:30:17,771 --> 00:30:18,903 Light 'em up, boys. 522 00:30:22,211 --> 00:30:24,256 [Thibodeau] It's okay. It's okay. 523 00:30:24,387 --> 00:30:26,432 It's okay. 524 00:30:28,391 --> 00:30:30,262 [loud screeching] 525 00:30:30,393 --> 00:30:33,048 [buzzing, whining] 526 00:30:33,875 --> 00:30:36,616 [distant rattling, honking] 527 00:30:36,747 --> 00:30:38,314 [voice screaming on recording] 528 00:30:39,532 --> 00:30:41,447 [honking] 529 00:30:43,623 --> 00:30:45,887 [recording continues] 530 00:30:50,021 --> 00:30:53,198 [varied screeching, wailing] 531 00:30:56,506 --> 00:30:59,683 [dolphin chatter playing] 532 00:30:59,813 --> 00:31:02,033 [screaming plays] 533 00:31:05,471 --> 00:31:07,517 [screaming plays] 534 00:31:13,740 --> 00:31:15,742 [recorded screaming continues] 535 00:31:22,184 --> 00:31:23,533 [wind whistling] 536 00:31:34,022 --> 00:31:36,285 [thunder rumbling] 537 00:31:39,462 --> 00:31:41,333 [thunder continues] 538 00:31:54,172 --> 00:31:57,045 [rain pattering] 539 00:31:57,959 --> 00:32:00,483 No, no, I'm sorry. Please don't put words in my mouth. 540 00:32:00,526 --> 00:32:03,486 The FBI has no comment at this time. Next question. 541 00:32:03,529 --> 00:32:05,879 Is there a consideration to use psychological warfare? 542 00:32:05,923 --> 00:32:07,142 Have you discussed it at all? 543 00:32:07,490 --> 00:32:09,753 I don't even know what psychological warfare is. 544 00:32:09,796 --> 00:32:11,929 Well, it was reported that you're playing loud music 545 00:32:11,973 --> 00:32:14,279 and shining bright lights on the compound all night 546 00:32:14,323 --> 00:32:15,541 to try to agitate the group. 547 00:32:15,889 --> 00:32:18,544 Yeah, I cannot discuss tactics of that sort, but I'd say 548 00:32:18,588 --> 00:32:20,764 there's minimal chance that we would get up to that sort of activity. 549 00:32:20,807 --> 00:32:23,636 When are you gonna allow the parents to intervene and talk to our children? 550 00:32:23,810 --> 00:32:26,248 Well, that is not something we're comfortable doing at the moment. 551 00:32:26,291 --> 00:32:29,642 Why? Why? How can it hurt for our voices to get in there? 552 00:32:29,686 --> 00:32:33,298 We know our children. We should be speaking to our children. 553 00:32:33,385 --> 00:32:35,605 -Ma'am, there's a protocol-- -[snaps] Screw your protocol! 554 00:32:35,648 --> 00:32:37,781 I want to talk to my son! 555 00:32:38,173 --> 00:32:39,261 -Ma'am-- -Everybody here, 556 00:32:39,391 --> 00:32:41,002 all of these families here, 557 00:32:41,219 --> 00:32:42,786 we don't wanna just stand around-- 558 00:32:42,829 --> 00:32:43,656 -Is there security? -and just figure out 559 00:32:44,092 --> 00:32:45,658 that we've waited too long? I don't want... 560 00:32:45,702 --> 00:32:47,617 -a dead son on my hands! -[Prince] Security, please! 561 00:32:48,357 --> 00:32:51,577 Let me talk to my son! Let us talk to our children! 562 00:32:51,621 --> 00:32:54,754 I think that's going to do it for today. Thank you. 563 00:32:56,669 --> 00:32:58,932 [thunder rumbling] 564 00:33:00,282 --> 00:33:02,284 [rain pattering] 565 00:33:04,112 --> 00:33:05,548 [faint knocking on door] 566 00:33:05,983 --> 00:33:09,030 I filled a bunch of glasses. I figured I'd bring one over for Serenity. 567 00:33:11,032 --> 00:33:11,684 Thank you. 568 00:33:12,468 --> 00:33:13,817 You're welcome. 569 00:33:16,341 --> 00:33:17,864 How you guys doing? 570 00:33:18,952 --> 00:33:19,692 It's freezing. 571 00:33:21,259 --> 00:33:23,392 I have an extra blanket. I'll run and grab it. 572 00:33:23,653 --> 00:33:25,002 Wait, Thibs. 573 00:33:29,441 --> 00:33:31,443 You're the best. 574 00:33:39,234 --> 00:33:40,800 Be right back. 575 00:33:45,457 --> 00:33:46,719 [clicking] 576 00:33:49,592 --> 00:33:51,594 -[sniffles] -[Steve] Wayne? 577 00:33:51,637 --> 00:33:52,986 Get that generator working yet? 578 00:33:54,510 --> 00:33:56,251 Looks like it's gonna be another cold one tonight. 579 00:33:56,903 --> 00:33:59,384 I've taken it apart and put it back together twice. 580 00:34:00,646 --> 00:34:01,952 I still can't figure out what's wrong with it. 581 00:34:02,561 --> 00:34:03,562 Do you mind if I have a look? 582 00:34:04,868 --> 00:34:06,217 I'll take all the help I can get. 583 00:34:13,616 --> 00:34:14,747 [raps] 584 00:34:18,882 --> 00:34:20,188 Come on in. 585 00:34:27,499 --> 00:34:28,109 [sighs] How you doing? 586 00:34:28,935 --> 00:34:30,720 Good. 587 00:34:30,763 --> 00:34:34,027 I was just checking in on you, see if you're okay. 588 00:34:36,117 --> 00:34:36,639 What's wrong? 589 00:34:39,294 --> 00:34:41,122 Um... 590 00:34:43,472 --> 00:34:45,126 I don't wanna die in here, David. 591 00:34:48,129 --> 00:34:49,173 I know I might. 592 00:34:50,957 --> 00:34:53,351 And-and maybe that's God's will, but... 593 00:34:55,484 --> 00:34:56,137 I don't want to. 594 00:34:59,444 --> 00:35:01,272 I wish I had three more years with you. 595 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,406 Three more years to teach you the message. 596 00:35:04,797 --> 00:35:06,016 Who's to say you won't? 597 00:35:06,190 --> 00:35:08,671 The way things are going, I think it's clear. 598 00:35:09,585 --> 00:35:10,194 We're going home. 599 00:35:11,717 --> 00:35:12,979 One way or another, Thibs. 600 00:35:18,289 --> 00:35:19,638 Uh... 601 00:35:19,682 --> 00:35:20,987 Michelle and Serenity... 602 00:35:23,816 --> 00:35:24,469 What about 'em? 603 00:35:27,820 --> 00:35:29,126 If I decide to go... 604 00:35:31,084 --> 00:35:32,303 will you let them leave with me? 605 00:35:33,478 --> 00:35:35,480 [faint chuckle] 606 00:35:37,656 --> 00:35:39,658 Hm. 607 00:35:39,832 --> 00:35:41,225 [sighs] 608 00:35:43,532 --> 00:35:44,010 Your mother. 609 00:35:45,925 --> 00:35:48,101 She sure struck a nerve with you, didn't she? 610 00:35:51,235 --> 00:35:52,193 -Yeah. -Yeah. 611 00:35:53,890 --> 00:35:55,021 They have a way of doing that. 612 00:36:00,940 --> 00:36:02,072 And it would pain me, 613 00:36:03,856 --> 00:36:06,511 but I would not hold it against you if you wanted to go join her. 614 00:36:08,687 --> 00:36:09,427 But Michelle? 615 00:36:15,868 --> 00:36:16,869 And Serenity? 616 00:36:16,913 --> 00:36:20,482 That is my wife... and my daughter. 617 00:36:24,442 --> 00:36:27,228 They are mine... to protect. 618 00:36:28,925 --> 00:36:29,665 Not yours. 619 00:36:33,625 --> 00:36:34,235 You understand? 620 00:36:37,890 --> 00:36:39,762 [faintly] Mm-hmm. 621 00:36:56,126 --> 00:36:57,736 [TV reporter] Sources near the scene are reporting 622 00:36:57,780 --> 00:37:00,957 that the FBI's main concern right now is a mass suicide. 623 00:37:01,131 --> 00:37:04,177 Authorities feel Koresh has become unstable in the last few days 624 00:37:04,439 --> 00:37:06,397 and they worry about what he might do. 625 00:37:06,745 --> 00:37:08,094 [male reporter] A lightning storm-- 626 00:37:08,225 --> 00:37:09,748 [remote clicks] 627 00:37:10,662 --> 00:37:12,534 [knocking on door] 628 00:37:22,065 --> 00:37:26,156 I ran outta money for gas. My car is freezing. 629 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,768 -May I come in? -Yes. Please. 630 00:37:31,074 --> 00:37:32,597 [thunder rumbles] 631 00:37:35,296 --> 00:37:36,122 [Steve] All right, Thibs. 632 00:37:37,559 --> 00:37:38,386 I'm ready when you are. 633 00:37:39,778 --> 00:37:41,563 [inhales] 634 00:37:42,172 --> 00:37:43,782 Hi, Mom. It's me. 635 00:37:45,610 --> 00:37:46,872 I saw you on the news the other night. 636 00:37:49,179 --> 00:37:51,486 I know this is hard on you. I'm sorry. 637 00:37:54,967 --> 00:37:56,012 I just want you to know I'm okay. 638 00:37:56,055 --> 00:38:00,059 I'm not being held against my will. 639 00:38:02,018 --> 00:38:04,237 I can come out whenever I want. But... 640 00:38:06,762 --> 00:38:10,505 this is something I-- I thought about a lot, and... 641 00:38:12,420 --> 00:38:13,334 I need to see this through. 642 00:38:15,988 --> 00:38:16,728 'Cause people here... 643 00:38:18,077 --> 00:38:18,991 they're counting on me. 644 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,995 [Thibodeau] I can't leave them behind, so... 645 00:38:28,697 --> 00:38:29,741 [voice quavers] I hope you understand. 646 00:38:32,918 --> 00:38:33,876 I really love you, Mom. 647 00:38:38,054 --> 00:38:38,750 I hope--[clears throat] 648 00:38:38,794 --> 00:38:39,403 hope to see you soon. 649 00:38:49,848 --> 00:38:51,676 [crickets chirping] 650 00:38:54,070 --> 00:38:56,507 [popping] 651 00:38:59,292 --> 00:39:00,729 -Hey, help me hang this blanket. -[Thibodeau] Yeah. 652 00:39:02,383 --> 00:39:03,253 [grunts] Can you get that side? 653 00:39:04,646 --> 00:39:07,518 -Hang this up. -[recording screeches] 654 00:39:10,739 --> 00:39:12,871 [recorded gunfire rattling, horns honking] 655 00:39:13,742 --> 00:39:15,787 [recorded screaming] 656 00:39:18,964 --> 00:39:21,880 [recorded screeching plays] 657 00:39:31,150 --> 00:39:33,631 [children crying] 658 00:39:48,603 --> 00:39:50,735 [whirring] 659 00:40:00,528 --> 00:40:01,659 [sighs] 660 00:40:09,754 --> 00:40:14,193 What's it gonna take to get you to start seeing them as people? 661 00:40:14,411 --> 00:40:15,368 I see 'em as people. 662 00:40:17,501 --> 00:40:19,285 Just not the kind I ever wanna be around again. 663 00:40:19,547 --> 00:40:21,026 Hm. 664 00:40:23,420 --> 00:40:27,206 Have you noticed... that not a single person has come out 665 00:40:27,250 --> 00:40:30,079 since you started screwing around with them? What does that tell ya? 666 00:40:30,253 --> 00:40:32,342 I don't know. 667 00:40:32,385 --> 00:40:33,865 That they're a bunch of stubborn sons of bitches? 668 00:40:34,605 --> 00:40:35,563 [Gary scoffs] 669 00:40:37,956 --> 00:40:41,438 History's not gonna be on your side with this one, Mitch. 670 00:40:45,529 --> 00:40:47,183 I'll take the other side of that bet. 671 00:40:47,836 --> 00:40:49,838 Just stand down, okay? For a few days. 672 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,145 Turn the power back on. And give them... 673 00:40:54,712 --> 00:40:56,888 a moment to start thinking straight again. 674 00:40:57,628 --> 00:40:59,151 That's not my call. Talk to Prince. 675 00:40:59,195 --> 00:41:01,502 Prince isn't listening to me anymore, Mitch. 676 00:41:03,329 --> 00:41:05,157 He's listening to you. 677 00:41:12,556 --> 00:41:13,601 Five thousand to one. 678 00:41:15,167 --> 00:41:16,255 Those are the odds against us. 679 00:41:17,213 --> 00:41:19,650 Five thousand people to every one officer of the law. 680 00:41:23,045 --> 00:41:24,525 You know how we keep order with those odds? 681 00:41:25,917 --> 00:41:28,485 Because they believe we're more powerful than we are. 682 00:41:29,530 --> 00:41:30,661 We project strength. 683 00:41:31,619 --> 00:41:33,316 And the people believe in that strength. 684 00:41:37,538 --> 00:41:40,497 So when we sit outside a place like this, 685 00:41:41,672 --> 00:41:42,673 for weeks on end, 686 00:41:44,283 --> 00:41:45,415 waiting for them to tire... 687 00:41:47,809 --> 00:41:49,985 we look weak in front of the rest of the whole world. 688 00:41:51,421 --> 00:41:55,381 And every angry asshole with a bomb kit starts getting ideas. 689 00:41:56,774 --> 00:41:58,950 This is more than a situation now, Gary. 690 00:42:01,039 --> 00:42:01,779 This is a symbol. 691 00:42:05,609 --> 00:42:08,481 Are we the kind of agency that coddles cop killers? 692 00:42:11,397 --> 00:42:14,270 Or are we the goddamn FBI? 693 00:42:21,930 --> 00:42:24,585 [recording shrieks, squeals] 694 00:42:26,935 --> 00:42:28,763 -[sputters] -[sighs] 695 00:42:31,504 --> 00:42:31,983 Come on. 696 00:42:33,289 --> 00:42:36,074 -[sputters, whirrs] -Whoo! 697 00:42:36,248 --> 00:42:36,771 Yeah! 698 00:42:38,773 --> 00:42:41,384 [laughing] 699 00:42:42,820 --> 00:42:44,692 [David] You did it! 700 00:42:44,735 --> 00:42:47,042 I knew you would! Great job! 701 00:42:48,783 --> 00:42:50,567 How much gas do we have in there? 702 00:42:51,176 --> 00:42:52,264 -[Wayne] 10 minutes, tops. -[recorded honking playing] 703 00:42:54,919 --> 00:42:56,312 I know what I wanna do with it. 704 00:42:59,620 --> 00:43:02,187 [recorded screaming, honking continues] 705 00:43:09,847 --> 00:43:11,936 Oh, my God. 706 00:43:17,594 --> 00:43:19,944 [beeps] 707 00:43:28,083 --> 00:43:30,651 [keypad beeping] 708 00:43:34,829 --> 00:43:36,918 [line ringing] 709 00:43:41,009 --> 00:43:42,967 [woman] Hello? 710 00:43:43,925 --> 00:43:47,145 -Hi, sis. -Oh, my God, Steve! 711 00:43:49,147 --> 00:43:50,061 Where are you? Did you get out of there? 712 00:43:50,279 --> 00:43:51,323 No, I'm still inside. 713 00:43:53,325 --> 00:43:55,284 -I found a phone. And-- -[beeping] 714 00:43:56,415 --> 00:43:57,199 -[sister] Steve? -You know what? I-- 715 00:43:58,374 --> 00:44:01,072 Look, Sue, I don't have a lot of time. 716 00:44:01,812 --> 00:44:04,989 This thing's beeping at me, but... listen. 717 00:44:06,774 --> 00:44:09,820 I-- there's been a lot of talk on the news 718 00:44:10,038 --> 00:44:14,042 and, um, with the FBI, about us committing suicide in here. 719 00:44:14,085 --> 00:44:16,871 And I just want you to know, no matter what they tell you, 720 00:44:17,698 --> 00:44:20,657 that we would never kill ourselves. 721 00:44:21,484 --> 00:44:21,963 And so, 722 00:44:24,052 --> 00:44:28,186 if we somehow-- I don't know-- if we wind up dead, or-- 723 00:44:28,230 --> 00:44:30,145 [phone beeping] 724 00:44:31,102 --> 00:44:35,063 and-- and that's what they're telling people around the world, 725 00:44:35,541 --> 00:44:37,369 then I just want you to know that it's a lie. 726 00:44:40,372 --> 00:44:42,070 Okay? 727 00:44:43,724 --> 00:44:45,551 Sue...? 728 00:44:45,943 --> 00:44:46,596 -[beeping] -Can you hear what I'm-- 729 00:44:50,556 --> 00:44:52,602 -[faint thumping] -[sobbing] 730 00:44:56,432 --> 00:44:59,087 -[music playing] -[recorded screaming continues] 731 00:45:01,089 --> 00:45:01,872 -[music continues] -What is that? 732 00:45:03,526 --> 00:45:05,702 What's that sound? 733 00:45:05,833 --> 00:45:07,399 Hey, turn off the speakers. 734 00:45:07,530 --> 00:45:09,880 [distant drumming] 735 00:45:11,055 --> 00:45:12,883 [music continues] 736 00:45:14,232 --> 00:45:16,191 -I thought we cut the power off. -We did. 737 00:45:17,279 --> 00:45:20,021 [music continues] 738 00:45:25,156 --> 00:45:29,073 ♪ I've been in a cave For 40 days ♪ 739 00:45:29,857 --> 00:45:33,686 ♪ Only a spark To light my way ♪ 740 00:45:34,513 --> 00:45:36,080 ♪ I want to give out 741 00:45:36,907 --> 00:45:38,779 ♪ I want to give in 742 00:45:39,562 --> 00:45:41,520 ♪ This is our crime 743 00:45:41,651 --> 00:45:43,435 ♪ This is our sin ♪ 744 00:45:43,609 --> 00:45:45,916 ♪ Oh, I still believe! ♪ 745 00:45:50,094 --> 00:45:52,096 [music continues] 746 00:45:57,188 --> 00:45:59,190 [music continues] 747 00:46:08,809 --> 00:46:10,636 [music continues] 748 00:46:11,072 --> 00:46:12,116 If we were to go in... 749 00:46:12,508 --> 00:46:13,683 [David] ♪ But I still believe... ♪ 750 00:46:13,988 --> 00:46:15,076 What would that look like? 751 00:46:17,165 --> 00:46:18,644 [Mitch] I could have a plan on your desk by morning. 752 00:46:20,124 --> 00:46:23,824 -♪ Through the heartache... -Get it to me. 753 00:46:24,607 --> 00:46:28,785 ♪ Through the waiting, Through the years ♪ 754 00:46:28,916 --> 00:46:30,831 ♪ For people like us ♪ 755 00:46:31,657 --> 00:46:33,790 ♪ In places like this 756 00:46:33,921 --> 00:46:38,403 ♪ We need all the hope That we can get ♪ 757 00:46:38,534 --> 00:46:40,753 ♪ Oh, I still believe! ♪ 758 00:46:55,377 --> 00:46:56,813 [music ends]