1 00:00:11,068 --> 00:00:13,068 ( music playing ) 2 00:00:38,485 --> 00:00:40,527 Male DJ: Hey, welcome back, and thanks for joining us. 3 00:00:40,610 --> 00:00:42,360 I'm here with Nina Brokaw. 4 00:00:42,443 --> 00:00:44,527 If you're anything like me, you know her as the maker 5 00:00:44,610 --> 00:00:48,360 of atmospheric, wildly emotional, dreamy music. 6 00:00:48,443 --> 00:00:50,735 Her last album "Tethered" was certainly a hit 7 00:00:50,819 --> 00:00:52,068 around our parts. 8 00:00:52,151 --> 00:00:53,485 Nina, thanks for joining us. 9 00:00:53,568 --> 00:00:54,902 Nina: Thanks for having me. 10 00:00:54,985 --> 00:00:57,026 DJ: So, are you out on tour 11 00:00:57,110 --> 00:01:00,026 still supporting "Tethered"? 12 00:01:00,110 --> 00:01:02,902 Nina: This is just like a little mini-tour. 13 00:01:02,985 --> 00:01:05,235 I'm opening for some friends of mine. 14 00:01:05,318 --> 00:01:08,276 You know, "Tethered" came out about three years ago, so-- 15 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:09,944 DJ: Well, yeah, you said it, 16 00:01:10,026 --> 00:01:12,443 I didn't say it, but now that you brought it up, 17 00:01:12,527 --> 00:01:14,860 the fans are curious and wondering 18 00:01:14,944 --> 00:01:16,652 is there something percolating in there? 19 00:01:16,735 --> 00:01:19,485 I know your records are often very personal, 20 00:01:19,568 --> 00:01:22,985 but can we get a little teaser, anything? 21 00:01:23,068 --> 00:01:25,819 Nina: Well, I'm still kind of dreaming it up at this point, 22 00:01:25,902 --> 00:01:28,527 so, yeah, I don't know. 23 00:01:28,610 --> 00:01:31,944 DJ: Cool, cool. So you're taking your time. 24 00:01:32,026 --> 00:01:35,527 But I know that you actually wrote and recorded "Tethered" 25 00:01:35,610 --> 00:01:38,610 in, like, 48 hours, so... 26 00:01:38,694 --> 00:01:41,652 Nina: Yeah, but it doesn't always happen that way. 27 00:01:41,735 --> 00:01:44,527 DJ: Oh, of course. Totally. 28 00:01:44,610 --> 00:01:46,026 Nina: I mean, yeah, 29 00:01:46,110 --> 00:01:48,819 sometimes it comes and it's simple 30 00:01:48,902 --> 00:01:50,610 and it just spills out, 31 00:01:50,694 --> 00:01:54,068 and sometimes it comes and it's not easy, it's hard, 32 00:01:54,151 --> 00:01:58,235 and it's... it's just fucking hard, 33 00:01:58,318 --> 00:02:00,110 so can you just-- 34 00:02:00,193 --> 00:02:01,902 ( text alert ) 35 00:02:11,318 --> 00:02:12,443 ( text alert ) 36 00:02:19,110 --> 00:02:20,777 ( text alert ) 37 00:02:34,735 --> 00:02:36,068 ( sighs ) 38 00:02:42,151 --> 00:02:44,860 ( computer beeping ) 39 00:02:46,235 --> 00:02:49,235 ( vocalizes musical phrase ) 40 00:02:53,151 --> 00:02:56,110 ( repeats phrase ) 41 00:03:00,527 --> 00:03:04,777 ( phrase looping ) 42 00:03:12,777 --> 00:03:16,443 ( singing over loop ) 43 00:03:22,276 --> 00:03:25,068 ( projector humming ) 44 00:03:26,860 --> 00:03:30,777 ( ambient vocal music continues ) 45 00:03:35,068 --> 00:03:39,151 ( vocalizing ) 46 00:03:40,985 --> 00:03:44,819 ( vocalizing over ambient music ) 47 00:03:52,652 --> 00:03:56,944 ( introduces new vocal phrase ) 48 00:04:06,402 --> 00:04:09,318 ( ambient music continues ) 49 00:04:13,443 --> 00:04:17,318 ( ambient music continues ) 50 00:04:31,151 --> 00:04:33,485 ( music continues ) 51 00:04:34,902 --> 00:04:36,902 ( text alert ) 52 00:04:38,777 --> 00:04:41,735 ( ambient music continues ) 53 00:05:00,735 --> 00:05:03,402 ( ambient music continues ) 54 00:05:09,610 --> 00:05:10,735 ( text alert ) 55 00:05:20,735 --> 00:05:22,402 ( music stops ) 56 00:05:36,777 --> 00:05:39,151 DJ: I'm sorry, I didn't mean to keep asking about-- 57 00:05:39,235 --> 00:05:41,610 Nina: No, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to be defensive. 58 00:05:41,694 --> 00:05:44,527 It's just for me, it's almost like-- 59 00:05:44,610 --> 00:05:47,777 there's, like, a shadow or something 60 00:05:47,860 --> 00:05:50,860 that's following me around and pulling me towards it. 61 00:05:50,944 --> 00:05:53,193 And I've been resisting it for a long time, 62 00:05:53,276 --> 00:05:56,026 but you just can't live with a shadow, you know, 63 00:05:56,110 --> 00:05:59,527 so I think I just have to dive in. 64 00:05:59,610 --> 00:06:02,360 But I don't know, it's terrifying. 65 00:06:02,443 --> 00:06:05,193 I'm scared I'm not gonna get it right. 66 00:06:05,276 --> 00:06:07,735 I'm scared of what's in there. 67 00:06:07,819 --> 00:06:10,443 It's just-- Yeah, I don't know. 68 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,527 ( projector humming ) 69 00:06:56,151 --> 00:06:59,068 ( beeping ) 70 00:06:59,151 --> 00:07:03,985 ( plays short phrase on keyboard, sings along ) 71 00:07:09,026 --> 00:07:12,235 ( phrase repeating ) 72 00:07:16,276 --> 00:07:19,694 ( ambient music continues ) 73 00:07:35,777 --> 00:07:39,694 ( ambient music continues ) 74 00:07:43,026 --> 00:07:44,735 ( text alert ) 75 00:07:58,068 --> 00:08:01,735 ( accompanying keyboard with vocal ) 76 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,026 ( ambient music continues ) 77 00:08:15,276 --> 00:08:17,110 ( text alert ) 78 00:08:22,068 --> 00:08:25,568 ( continues vocalizing over ambient music ) 79 00:08:42,777 --> 00:08:45,777 - ( text alert ) - ( plays dissonant note ) 80 00:08:52,443 --> 00:08:54,944 ( dissonant note repeats ) 81 00:09:03,485 --> 00:09:05,652 ( dissonant note repeats ) 82 00:09:08,151 --> 00:09:10,110 ( music stops ) 83 00:09:20,318 --> 00:09:22,485 ( projector humming ) 84 00:09:35,443 --> 00:09:39,110 ( ambient music playing ) 85 00:10:00,318 --> 00:10:03,985 ( ambient music continues ) 86 00:10:23,694 --> 00:10:25,068 ( music stops ) 87 00:10:27,443 --> 00:10:30,193 ( computer beeping ) 88 00:10:30,276 --> 00:10:34,860 ( ambient music playing ) 89 00:10:39,443 --> 00:10:41,694 ( projector humming ) 90 00:10:41,777 --> 00:10:44,777 ( ambient music playing ) 91 00:10:51,944 --> 00:10:54,902 ( vocalizing ) 92 00:10:57,068 --> 00:10:59,360 ( keyboard playing ) 93 00:11:04,235 --> 00:11:07,193 ( vocalizing continues ) 94 00:11:19,276 --> 00:11:22,443 ( ambient music continues ) 95 00:11:32,485 --> 00:11:34,944 ( vocalizing ) 96 00:11:48,068 --> 00:11:50,735 ( ambient music continues ) 97 00:12:00,235 --> 00:12:02,777 ( vocalizing continues ) 98 00:12:20,485 --> 00:12:23,610 ( ambient music continues ) 99 00:12:38,777 --> 00:12:41,860 ( vocalizing ) 100 00:13:06,527 --> 00:13:09,318 ( continues vocalizing ) 101 00:13:14,819 --> 00:13:16,694 ( music stops ) 102 00:13:23,944 --> 00:13:25,860 ( computer beeps ) 103 00:13:30,610 --> 00:13:32,777 ( flipping switches ) 104 00:13:45,860 --> 00:13:47,944 ( projector humming ) 105 00:13:50,068 --> 00:13:52,068 ( static buzzing ) 106 00:14:14,110 --> 00:14:16,944 ( dissonant piano chords ) 107 00:15:00,068 --> 00:15:04,110 ( dissonant music playing ) 108 00:15:19,819 --> 00:15:21,777 ( silence ) 109 00:15:46,694 --> 00:15:48,652 What are you doing here? 110 00:15:49,777 --> 00:15:51,568 I wanna talk to you. 111 00:15:51,652 --> 00:15:54,068 I don't wanna talk to you. 112 00:15:54,151 --> 00:15:55,944 I know. 113 00:15:56,026 --> 00:15:58,485 I've been texting and calling you for three months. 114 00:15:58,568 --> 00:16:00,151 I know you have. 115 00:16:05,235 --> 00:16:07,568 I really don't wanna talk. 116 00:16:13,068 --> 00:16:15,068 Please? 117 00:16:32,235 --> 00:16:34,694 No. I don't want to do this. 118 00:16:34,777 --> 00:16:36,610 Please. 119 00:16:44,902 --> 00:16:48,110 ( takes deep breath ) 120 00:16:51,694 --> 00:16:53,652 Go ahead. 121 00:16:57,568 --> 00:17:01,360 When I met you three years ago... 122 00:17:01,443 --> 00:17:04,443 I just knew that I had met the love of my life. 123 00:17:04,527 --> 00:17:07,944 And I'm pretty sure you felt the same way. 124 00:17:09,735 --> 00:17:12,068 We were so in love. 125 00:17:12,151 --> 00:17:16,151 We talked about getting married... 126 00:17:16,235 --> 00:17:18,068 and having kids. 127 00:17:20,235 --> 00:17:22,777 But you just destroyed it. 128 00:17:26,068 --> 00:17:29,568 When I became successful... 129 00:17:29,652 --> 00:17:30,819 you just-- 130 00:17:32,485 --> 00:17:34,735 you became jealous, 131 00:17:34,819 --> 00:17:38,151 petty, resentful, 132 00:17:38,235 --> 00:17:41,318 angry... 133 00:17:41,402 --> 00:17:44,318 and you destroyed what we had. 134 00:17:46,819 --> 00:17:50,151 I felt like you stopped loving me. 135 00:17:51,985 --> 00:17:55,360 You made me feel terrible about myself. 136 00:17:55,443 --> 00:17:59,568 And you took away the most important thing to me-- 137 00:17:59,652 --> 00:18:01,026 us. 138 00:18:40,568 --> 00:18:42,944 Well, it's difficult 139 00:18:43,026 --> 00:18:46,944 when the person you're with is more successful than you 140 00:18:47,026 --> 00:18:50,860 and... more talented than you... 141 00:18:53,819 --> 00:18:57,985 ...just generally a better person than you. 142 00:18:58,068 --> 00:19:00,068 It changed me. 143 00:19:03,902 --> 00:19:06,527 I didn't recognize myself. 144 00:19:08,402 --> 00:19:10,735 I was jealous. 145 00:19:14,694 --> 00:19:16,860 And I'm sorry. 146 00:19:18,276 --> 00:19:20,068 But I need to get over you. 147 00:19:25,568 --> 00:19:27,235 I see these images. 148 00:19:27,318 --> 00:19:30,902 They're everywhere. 149 00:19:32,568 --> 00:19:37,151 Like, I'll be taking a walk... 150 00:19:37,235 --> 00:19:40,735 and I'll see the image of us. 151 00:19:42,652 --> 00:19:46,568 Or even if I'm at a coffee shop, 152 00:19:46,652 --> 00:19:50,735 I'll turn around and it'll be playing on the wall. 153 00:19:52,485 --> 00:19:55,110 I can't get away from it. 154 00:19:57,402 --> 00:19:59,819 It's like you're haunting me. 155 00:20:02,610 --> 00:20:05,485 And I understand why you don't want to talk to me. 156 00:20:07,026 --> 00:20:09,110 But you can't just shut me out. 157 00:20:12,902 --> 00:20:15,443 I still carry you with me. 158 00:20:18,694 --> 00:20:20,777 I don't know what to do. 159 00:20:36,819 --> 00:20:39,902 So... 160 00:20:39,985 --> 00:20:42,485 is there any chance for us, or...? 161 00:20:45,318 --> 00:20:47,318 It's ruined. 162 00:20:52,777 --> 00:20:54,610 ( sighs ) 163 00:20:57,443 --> 00:20:59,485 And it's OK. 164 00:21:05,026 --> 00:21:07,068 I forgive you. 165 00:22:01,026 --> 00:22:03,610 ( computer beeping ) 166 00:22:03,694 --> 00:22:06,068 ( playing keyboard ) 167 00:22:13,318 --> 00:22:16,068 ( vocalizing ) 168 00:22:48,360 --> 00:22:51,443 ( looping vocals ) 169 00:23:01,402 --> 00:23:04,985 ( ambient music playing ) 170 00:23:17,527 --> 00:23:21,485 ( vocalizing, playing keyboard ) 171 00:23:51,360 --> 00:23:54,527 ( ambient music continues ) 172 00:24:53,652 --> 00:24:54,819 -♪ (MUSIC PLAYS) ♪ -(DOOR OPENS) 173 00:24:54,902 --> 00:24:56,985 JIMMY RAY FLYNN: Oh, we're in Room 104. What a trip. 174 00:24:57,068 --> 00:24:58,193 GIANNI ARONE: Great set. 175 00:24:58,985 --> 00:25:00,819 FLYNN: We had talked about collaborating, 176 00:25:00,902 --> 00:25:03,318 but there's something that happened this year 177 00:25:03,568 --> 00:25:06,902 with Gianni, dealing with his-- I call it mental wellness-- 178 00:25:07,151 --> 00:25:10,985 that allowed it to flow in a way that didn't feel forced. 179 00:25:13,402 --> 00:25:14,944 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪