1 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:38,040 Hello, I'm Frank Skinner, and welcome to Room 101. 2 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,680 Now, dumping their dislikes into the dreaded vault tonight are 3 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,400 Gogglebox Scarlett Moffatt, 4 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:44,920 Brainbox Charlie Brooker, 5 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:46,320 and Police Box, Pearl Mackie. 6 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,200 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 7 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:55,840 OK, shall we kick off? 8 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,440 So what's upsetting Charlie Brooker? 9 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:07,320 Ah, yeah. This is Anything I Don't Want To Do. 10 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,240 Now, I recognise this is quite a broad one. 11 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:14,840 Mm. And it's a category that I find has expanded 12 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,720 the older I get, basically. There's a rule, 13 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,400 there's a basic rule of thumb that I think is called Sturgeon's law, 14 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,160 usually applies to film and TV and literature, 15 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:29,520 that 90% of everything is rubbish, and isn't worth bothering with. 16 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,240 Most places aren't worth going to, 17 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,360 most conversations aren't worth having, 18 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,520 most things aren't worth eating, 19 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,720 most items and objects in the world aren't worth looking at, 20 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,160 or contemplating. 21 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:45,120 I don't want to go to a forest, or a picnic, or watch your play, 22 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,840 or read a book, because it's not worth doing. 23 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,840 And it really comes into focus at weekends, 24 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,920 and you can't just, apparently, sit around in the house 25 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,240 just staring at a phone all the time, because that's sort of bad. 26 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,960 And the kids know this, as well, because they've discovered iPads 27 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,400 and phones, and everyone would rather be looking at those 28 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,000 all the time, obviously. 29 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,120 But because, out of a sense of duty and guilt, 30 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:10,440 you end up going to a playground, or on a picnic, or to a bloody museum, 31 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,760 and most things aren't worth bothering with. 32 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:15,360 OK. 33 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:16,800 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 34 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:24,480 Well, thanks for coming. 35 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,960 I would say that, often, 36 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,800 there are things you think you aren't going to enjoy, 37 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,200 and then when you do do them, 38 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:41,120 you actually find out they're much more pleasurable than you thought. 39 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,600 And I have to say, I've used that line a few times. 40 00:02:44,640 --> 00:02:47,000 What about the theory of deferred gratification, 41 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,120 it's that you do something you don't want to do now 42 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,080 because you'll get the reward at some point in the future? 43 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:56,320 I'll give you an example. When I take, if I'm wearing a jumper... 44 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,360 Right... ..when I take it off, 45 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,520 I always pull the sleeves out the right way again, and I think, 46 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,320 "When I come back to this jumper... 47 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:06,680 "..set to go." 48 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,440 That's bleak. That is the bleakest thing I've ever heard. 49 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,320 Coming from Charlie Brooker, I take that as an enormous compliment. 50 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:16,880 Is that... 51 00:03:16,920 --> 00:03:18,640 That's a thing? 52 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,120 That's the first place you go to when I talk about pleasure, 53 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,320 is you think about the thing you do with the arms of your jumper? 54 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,720 I'm talking about thinking ahead to make my life sweeter 55 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,440 at a later date. 56 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,040 Jumper preparation. 57 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:35,680 I feel like you need a hug. 58 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,800 Like a proper hug. No! 59 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:40,800 But if you're only enjoying 98... 60 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:42,760 Well, sorry, 2% of your life... 61 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,840 It's not that... It's not that I'm not enjoying. 62 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,560 It's just that the rest of it probably isn't worth bothering with. 63 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,000 It would have made no difference to my quality of life if 98% of things 64 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,320 hadn't happened. 65 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,160 How do you decide on the 2%, though? 66 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:57,960 Er, there's probably... 67 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,360 There's probably a couple of desserts I've had I've liked. 68 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,400 Probably the birth of my children. 69 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:07,760 OK, that's a good one to put in there, yeah, yeah. 70 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,680 I'd probably put that somewhere in there. 71 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,160 I tell you what I would... I agree with you that I don't think 72 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:16,440 we should do things because other people think we should do them. 73 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:17,880 I'd agree with that. 74 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,760 I mean, take this picture of a lovely beach holiday. 75 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,240 LAUGHTER 76 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,600 God, I respect that Goth. I love that. 77 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,080 That's brilliant. She's just like, "No, no, I don't do bikinis. 78 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:35,760 "I'm not having it." Can you imagine it? 79 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,440 And the money she's saved on suntan lotion, fantastic. 80 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,160 What about this painter and decorator who didn't want 81 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:43,560 to move some boxes? 82 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:46,760 LAUGHTER 83 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,000 You see what your attitude does to the world, Charlie? 84 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,280 That's more interesting than a plain wall, though, isn't it? 85 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:56,960 That's an admirable spirit. 86 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,200 Well, the idea of doing what you don't want to do, 87 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:05,400 we've got an example here of a dad trying to persuade his child to do 88 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:06,840 something they don't want to do. 89 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:11,440 And it shows, with a bit of clever thought, 90 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,200 it's amazing what you can achieve. 91 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,200 THEY SPEAK OWN LANGUAGE 92 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:31,880 LAUGHTER 93 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:39,920 I like that. 94 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,880 I just think you're liable... If you don't do things 95 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,600 you don't want to do, you're liable to not make fabulous discoveries. 96 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,200 Like, I recently went camping... 97 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,280 Ugh... ..and they asked me to... Oh, I know, yeah. 98 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,200 Come on! That's a bad one to pick. That's not it, that's not my... 99 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:00,000 And they asked me to build a bonfire, and I thought... 100 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:01,880 "I really don't want to build a bonfire." 101 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,920 I built a bonfire, I loved it. 102 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:08,880 I stared at that bonfire for an hour and a half. 103 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,880 If I had the choice between Netflix and a bonfire, 104 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:14,920 I would rather have a bonfire. 105 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,960 And I would not have discovered that if I'd adopted your attitude of, 106 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,520 "No, I don't want to do that so I'm not going to do it." 107 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaking of which, I've got a show on Netflix, so up yours! 108 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,720 Yeah, believe me, I've got several shows on the bonfire. 109 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:39,920 OK, and so to Scarlett. 110 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:45,920 Crocs. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 111 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,240 I hate Crocs. They're awful. 112 00:06:50,280 --> 00:06:52,200 Awful. Look at them. 113 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,840 That makes my heart angry, just looking at that illustration. 114 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,600 Awful. Like, I don't understand, like, 115 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,800 who sat down, and thought, "Right, we want a waterproof shoe, 116 00:07:01,840 --> 00:07:03,720 "so what we'll do is put holes in it"? 117 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,360 Like, it makes no sense at all, and, like, no-one's ever, like, 118 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,240 bought an outfit, and went, "I know what'll just set these off nice, 119 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,080 "a pair of Crocs." Well... Who's done that? 120 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,280 And they've brought, like, nice designer types out. 121 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,160 They're still Crocs. It doesn't matter if you stick jewels on them, 122 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,000 make them fancy colours, prints, look at that design! 123 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,200 I think it's... Why are they so wide? Yeah, why are they so wide? 124 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:28,480 Whose foot is that wide? 125 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,160 No, I'm with you, I totally... 126 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,360 That's what... I love their width, 127 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,680 because when I've been wearing them a couple of hours, 128 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,800 my feet start to settle. 129 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:40,280 Oh... 130 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:41,800 Honestly, I take them off, 131 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,480 and none of my toes are touching each other any more. 132 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,080 I can comb, I can actually comb with my foot. 133 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,880 Like, what outfit would you wear with your Crocs? 134 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,200 Well, I'll tell you something now, I do the bins in the Crocs. 135 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,640 Yeah. And I mow the lawn. What if you get bin juice 136 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,720 on your foot, though? Yeah. There's holes in them. 137 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,240 I'm prepared to live with that. I couldn't deal with that. 138 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,200 And I mow the lawn, I do the garden, so I don't go that far. 139 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:10,920 I would say that my Wi-Fi extends further than my Croc usage. 140 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:13,560 So even you know how ugly they are, 141 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,560 because you wouldn't go out in public with them. 142 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,040 No, because of people like you making it a stigma! 143 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:20,600 I'm wearing Crocs now. 144 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:21,920 No, you're not! 145 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,720 I am! You can see how long I've been wearing this pair. Oh, no, don't. 146 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,200 LAUGHTER 147 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:33,120 I will... 148 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,200 I will trim these, eventually. 149 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,880 But, no, I think they're very, very... 150 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,040 I can really relax in them. 151 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,960 Let's say I'm at a barbecue, par example. 152 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,560 And I always think there's not enough roughage at a barbecue, 153 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,040 so I serve Brussels sprouts. 154 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,240 Here they are. 155 00:08:56,280 --> 00:09:01,040 Just boiled. And what I do, there's no strainer, ever, so I... 156 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:02,360 Oh! 157 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,960 LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE ..slip the Croc off. 158 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,000 Oh, wow! 159 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:13,640 And then I can... 160 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:16,680 I can offer these round. 161 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:21,760 I just grab the slingback, and say, "Jeff, would you like a sprout?" 162 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,120 And we're in business. 163 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:28,360 Come with me. 164 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,160 Good idea? I mean, do you take it off your foot 165 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,640 to then strain with it? 166 00:09:35,680 --> 00:09:38,240 Yeah. OK. That is what I was scared of, yeah. 167 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:39,760 Does that affect the flavour? 168 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:42,840 Well, I wear socks with them. 169 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:46,360 Oh, no. What? Well, what's the point of wearing them, 170 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,000 if you're going to wear socks? 171 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,360 Then you're not even getting the air around your feet. 172 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:51,920 Oh, well, let me show you. 173 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,200 What... These are the socks I wear them with. 174 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:01,840 And... 175 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:03,120 LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE 176 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,360 People don't even know I'm wearing them, it's amazing. 177 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,240 Also, you know, I like to cook at home. 178 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,840 One thing that annoys me is when you get a beef patty. 179 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,560 Whereas, I like proper minced beef. The scent of minced beef. 180 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:25,560 So what I do... 181 00:10:27,680 --> 00:10:30,080 ..I... I take off a Croc. 182 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,520 AUDIENCE GROANS 183 00:10:32,560 --> 00:10:34,160 I... Oh, God. 184 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:35,760 I load it. 185 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:37,000 Oh, no, I can't bear it. 186 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,520 This is like a sick Channel 4 documentary. 187 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:42,280 I need a plunger. 188 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:46,760 THEY GROAN 189 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,480 No, that's worse than I thought it was going to be. 190 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,280 APPLAUSE 191 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:54,800 Look at that! 192 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,520 You have showed me every other use of a Croc, 193 00:11:00,560 --> 00:11:05,800 other than actually its job, which is being a stylish shoe. 194 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:07,720 You don't want to be able to strain 195 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,640 your Brussels in your sandals, do you? 196 00:11:10,680 --> 00:11:11,680 YOU don't. 197 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,560 OK, so what is winding up Pearl? 198 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,080 Yeah! Yeah! 199 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,800 I hate mosquitoes. 200 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:35,600 They serve, like, absolutely no purpose, apart from to bite you, 201 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,800 and just make you feel massively uncomfortable. 202 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:39,520 It's like... 203 00:11:39,560 --> 00:11:42,240 Why are they there? Why do they exist? 204 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,960 All they do is bite your skin, suck your blood a tiny bit, 205 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,000 tiny bit, just enough to make you, like, 206 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,080 completely uncomfortable for the rest of the evening. 207 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,840 Do you know what I mean? And also, malaria, that's pretty rude. 208 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,240 I'm not really down with that. 209 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,360 And they only, have you noticed, they only have... 210 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,960 That little sound they make... SHE MAKES HIGH-PITCHED SOUND 211 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,200 That little sound, they only make that, after they've 212 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:04,480 already bitten you. 213 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,040 Did you know that? Is that true? I discovered that recently. 214 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:11,320 Yes, it is. Yeah, and that's like, not only have you bitten me, yeah? 215 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,280 But then it's like you're insulting me. 216 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,720 You're adding insult to injury, you're then going... 217 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:17,680 "Bitten you!" 218 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,800 That's not OK. Is that genuinely true? 219 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,680 Yeah, it's the blood vibrating inside them. 220 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,160 Is it? Wow, that's amazing. 221 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:28,040 That's like after you drink a cup of tea and you go, "Ah!" 222 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,800 Yeah, exactly! Next time I'll just go, "Yeah, I hope it chokes you!" 223 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,320 But they can bite you as many times as they want, can't they? 224 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,520 It's not like bees, sting you once and they're dead, 225 00:12:39,560 --> 00:12:41,920 and you're, like, "Oh, honourable, you know. 226 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,400 "I appreciate what you've done." 227 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,840 You know, you wouldn't have done it if you didn't mean to. 228 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,200 Mosquitoes are there just like, "Om, nom, nom, nom, nom." 229 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,520 Well, I've got to say, you're in very good company, 230 00:12:50,560 --> 00:12:53,000 because here's someone else who doesn't like mosquitoes. 231 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:54,440 The Democrats... 232 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:55,960 Oh, it was a mosquito. 233 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,720 I don't want mosquitoes around me. 234 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:00,920 I don't like mosquitoes! 235 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,240 I don't like those mosquitoes, I never did. 236 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:06,840 OK. Speaking of mosquitoes... 237 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:09,760 ..hello, Hillary, how are you doing? 238 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,240 AUDIENCE: Ooh! 239 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:15,080 Ooh! What I like about that, "I don't like mosquitoes, I never did," 240 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,640 as if there was a time when they were quite popular. 241 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,760 I think it's really rude as well that they only bite certain people. 242 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,960 Like, what's that about? I was at my friend's house the other day, 243 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,560 on her balcony, I'd been out there for about five minutes, 244 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,280 and I had about seven mosquito bites on me already. 245 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,680 And I said to Emma, I was like, "Emma, do you have any, like, 246 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,240 "mosquito bite cream?" 247 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,880 "Anything like that?" And she's like, "Oh, no, no, sorry, 248 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,360 "they don't really affect me. They don't really bite me." 249 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:42,600 And I'm, like, "What?!" 250 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,520 Why have they just munched me? 251 00:13:45,560 --> 00:13:47,840 And, like, both my other friends are completely fine. 252 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,200 Feel privileged that you're the chosen one. 253 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,680 But I'd rather not be, though, do you know what I mean? 254 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:53,960 It's good to feel wanted. 255 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,840 Yeah. I hate to tell you this, Pearl, but one study 256 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:58,960 showed people... 257 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,320 ..whose hygiene was not quite... 258 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,680 LAUGHTER 259 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:09,600 Basically, sweatier people get bitten more often. 260 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,240 I am quite a sweaty person. 261 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:15,480 Maybe that's it. Oh, well, there you go. They like a bit of seasoning. 262 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,960 I can't change that, though. What do I do about that? 263 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:20,440 Wear Crocs, they're very airy... 264 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,200 Let the air blow through you. 265 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,560 OK, we come to the end of that round. 266 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,920 Now then, I... 267 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:35,000 I don't feel I can put Crocs in. I think... 268 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,840 I wear them, and that would seem hypocritical. 269 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,160 I think there's a bit of snobbery about Crocs. 270 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,400 I think people with wide feet, really, it's changed my life. 271 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,240 You wear your fancy stilettos, but when you get to a certain age, 272 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:50,920 you need that space. 273 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:58,840 I thought about putting in things I don't want to do. 274 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:00,440 But I don't want to. 275 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,560 So I'm going to put mosquitoes into Room 101. 276 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,160 Yes! Yes! 277 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,920 Get them in there. Get in! Get in! 278 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,000 What's upsetting Scarlett? 279 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:28,880 Right, Little Cartons Of UHT milk, now... 280 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:30,240 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 281 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:36,280 Like, what is it? 282 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,880 Someone once told us that it was evaporated milk, so how is it there? 283 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,080 And, like, it never has a sell-by date on. 284 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,360 No. It never says cow's milk. 285 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,080 So I don't know what... 286 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:56,160 ..it's come from. It could be any animal. 287 00:15:56,200 --> 00:16:00,480 And, just, they're always the size of thimbles. 288 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:04,360 Like, who has that much milk in their tea? 289 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,320 Just make them a bit bigger. 290 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,440 If you're going to go through all the hassle of making a tab 291 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,800 that you can't open, that you've got to struggle with, 292 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:13,800 so half of it spills out, make it bigger. 293 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,960 So, how many would you use in a cup of tea? 294 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,040 About eight. No? Genuinely. 295 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:21,800 You would use eight? 296 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:23,520 Because they're that big. 297 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,160 I know, but sometimes I'll just make the tea black, 298 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,640 and I'll drink it with UHT chasers. 299 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:34,720 Straight down. 300 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,360 Milk's a natural thing, isn't it? That's why it goes off. 301 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:39,960 It shouldn't last years. 302 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,000 Do you know what I mean? It shouldn't. 303 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,120 But that's progress, isn't it? No. 304 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:50,400 The life expectancy of human beings have increased - why not milk? 305 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:56,800 I just don't... Like, they never have sell-by dates. It's dangerous. 306 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,440 Well, it can't be that... Surely they wouldn't... 307 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,960 The Government would... 308 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,920 ..stamp down on this, surely, if it was deadly? 309 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:06,440 What does it even stand for? 310 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,280 It sounds like something you need a course of antibiotics. 311 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,560 UHT. "Oh, I'll have some UHT." 312 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:15,520 It sounds... "I wouldn't want to catch UHT, lasts for ages." 313 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,760 Yeah, exactly. 314 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,600 And I just don't want to be drinking something that sounds like that. 315 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,640 Do you go to the tanning salon, ever? 316 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,120 What's a tanning salon? Like a spray tan? 317 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,080 No, when you go, and you lie on a sunbed. 318 00:17:28,120 --> 00:17:29,960 Oh, no, I don't do that, I just fake it. 319 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,680 I find they make a fabulous pair of... 320 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,200 That's brilliant. 321 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:44,560 That is brilliant. 322 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,480 Not only that, but it's not the only sensitive area on your body, 323 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,160 obviously, so I also wear... 324 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,520 They call me Pot Noodle at the tanning salon. 325 00:18:03,360 --> 00:18:06,840 I quite like the novelty of opening them. 326 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:08,560 Yous need to get out more. 327 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,680 It means you're not at home, doesn't it? It's a little treat. 328 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,520 Think of it as fun-sized milk. 329 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:21,440 One thing I like about them is I still play with my Action Man. 330 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:22,840 I'm a big... 331 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,040 And I particularly liked the game Action Man, family butcher. 332 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,080 See, you can use the carton... 333 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:36,720 APPLAUSE 334 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:39,920 Another thing I like to do, 335 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:43,600 is half a walnut, representing roast chicken. 336 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,440 Look at that. 337 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,240 They are practical. They are there because, otherwise, 338 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,600 they'd have to give you... What else are they going to do? 339 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,960 They're there so that you can make a cup of tea in your hotel room 340 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,520 without having to go out and milk a cow. 341 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,960 Otherwise, they'd have to give you a full carton of milk, 342 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,440 and put it in the fridge. They are serving a purpose. 343 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,480 Or just have your coffee black? 344 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:18,000 They could just... You can get, like, mini pints, can't you? 345 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,720 Hold it, how can you have a mini pint? 346 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,480 Well, I don't know, like, what the specific measurement it is, 347 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,320 but it's, like, half a pint. Smaller than your average pint? 348 00:19:28,360 --> 00:19:29,960 Yeah, it's like half a pint. 349 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,200 That is condensed milk, I think you'll find. 350 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,040 Well, I tell you something, 351 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:46,080 I play quite a bit of football, and I find one brilliant thing is, 352 00:19:46,120 --> 00:19:47,960 if you've run out of studs... 353 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,400 ..they do a great... 354 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,200 MUSIC: Match Of The Day theme 355 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:05,400 I love that you clapped along. 356 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,400 Desperate for community singing. They don't want comedy. 357 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,240 They want Another One Bites The Dust with big foam hands. 358 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,000 So what's upsetting Charlie Brooker? 359 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,120 Yeah. And this is, this is really the whole... 360 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:26,680 ..experience. 361 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,280 The fact that it's necessary is annoying, 362 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:34,880 but there's not many experiences in life in which you have to sit in 363 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,240 a confined space with a stranger, 364 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:41,280 and you have to sit there and make small talk with them 365 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:45,680 whilst staring at yourself in a mirror 366 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:50,440 and having your own awkwardness amplified as you look at yourself. 367 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:54,360 While, sometimes, drinking a cup of coffee that's getting more and more 368 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,800 full of hair. 369 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,560 The whole experience is just... 370 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,640 ..I find an absolute torment. 371 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:08,200 And I would be far happier if there was a night barbering service, 372 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,880 that you could book someone who would come round to your house, 373 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,800 in the dead of night, and cut your hair while you were asleep, 374 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,600 or while sedated, if they did haircuts on the NHS. 375 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,960 What about that moment when they hold the mirror 376 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,760 at the back of your head? 377 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,000 So you can watch yourself nodding obsequiously from the back. 378 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,760 You can see what you look like as a liar, from behind. 379 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:44,720 Good to know. 380 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,920 I can't imagine what damage they would do that would make me 381 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,880 say anything other than, "It's lovely, thanks very much." 382 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:57,080 I always thought if I was a barber I'd get one of these. 383 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,440 And the man who didn't have a bald patch, suddenly... 384 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:05,800 HE GASPS 385 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,040 I wouldn't be able to resist. 386 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,640 Better still, if you had a man who had a bald patch, and you had that. 387 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:14,720 Really build his hopes up. 388 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,600 Then go, "No!" 389 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,080 What is the purpose of the mirror? 390 00:22:18,120 --> 00:22:20,800 Why do you have to have... Why can't I have a TV, 391 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,160 or something like that instead? 392 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:23,480 Why can't I have anything? 393 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,960 A photograph of a terrible atrocity happening? 394 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,320 That would be preferable to watching myself. 395 00:22:29,360 --> 00:22:31,320 It should have an option, in this day and age, 396 00:22:31,360 --> 00:22:32,720 like when you're on a plane, 397 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,840 and the in-flight entertainment system nowadays, 398 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,560 you can be watching a film, then you can just check that you're en route. 399 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,600 You can see a little map. 400 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,920 There should be an option, there should just be a button 401 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,200 you can press that brings up the feed of your haircut 402 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:49,240 in front of you, just for the few moments that's necessary. 403 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:53,800 Then you could go back to watching whatever war movie is preferable. 404 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,960 I agree with you there. I don't know if this is just a girl thing, 405 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,440 but I feel like you almost pay to be insulted. 406 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,960 They sit down, and they just tell you everything that's wrong 407 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,880 with your hair, like, you've got split ends, 408 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,160 and your roots need doing. Your hair's dry, and you need 409 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,160 a conditioning treatment on it. And I'm like... 410 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,200 And they want to cut about that much off. Yeah. "No, what are you doing?! 411 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,440 "This took me ages to grow!" I just want the, like, split ends cut off, 412 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,200 and then you end up coming out with, like, a bowl cut. 413 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,040 I agree with you, it's awful. I hate going. 414 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,400 I agree. I swear this is true. 415 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:31,120 I went to a barbers in Camden Town, and I said to the bloke, he said, 416 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,240 "What do you want?" And I said, "I don't... 417 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,520 "I quite like yours. Something like yours." 418 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,920 And he said, "Well, I have number two all over." 419 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,360 Right? I said, "You should try wet wipes." 420 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,000 APPLAUSE 421 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,640 That bit I made up. No, don't clap that. 422 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,000 I made that bit up. He said, "I have number two all over." 423 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,560 And I said, "Well, I'll have that then." And so he got the... 424 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:57,120 And he cut my hair, and I could see my scalp, because it was so short. 425 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,120 And I said, "This is much shorter than yours." 426 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,600 He said, "Oh, well, mine's grown out quite a bit." 427 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,400 I swear! 428 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,800 I swear that's true. 429 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,360 Oh, my God. 430 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,560 Do you always find that, you know, when they give, like, 431 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,920 head massages as well, I always find that awkward because I'm, like, 432 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,440 do I close my eyes? 433 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,000 Do I keep them open and look at them? 434 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,400 I went somewhere and they started giving me a head massage, 435 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,480 and I thought, "Which way is this going? 436 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,040 "Have I walked into the wrong bloody place?" 437 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,800 This is a bit weird. I've got my head in the sink. 438 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,560 I don't let them wash it, ever. 439 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,080 Do you not? You know that sink with the, sort of, that you lean back on? 440 00:24:39,120 --> 00:24:41,400 Yeah. It feels a bit like sleeping in a urinal. 441 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:45,480 Just take my word for that. 442 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,400 Then you lean back... And I was getting it done once, 443 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:50,880 and it occurred to me... 444 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,080 I just had this image of this woman karate chopping me 445 00:24:54,120 --> 00:24:56,160 across the Adam's apple. Yeah! 446 00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:00,360 And once that's crossed your mind, you cannot enjoy it. 447 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,560 You're very vulnerable in those sinks. 448 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,440 I've thought that. It's like Sweeney Todd or something. Oh. 449 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,000 It's the perfect... Oh, toughen up! 450 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:11,840 And so, to Pearl. 451 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,800 Hear me out here, yeah? 452 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,080 OK, so the thing about swimming goggles that really gets me is 453 00:25:24,120 --> 00:25:26,880 that you put them on, and you're like, great, 454 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,720 they're like suctioned onto your eyeballs. 455 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,400 You're like, "Cool, cool. This feels pretty tight, you know." 456 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,000 If you're me, you pull them around your massive amounts of hair, 457 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:35,640 that the rubber is not going well with. 458 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,480 And you get in the pool, and you're like, "This is going to be great." 459 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,880 You're in there, you're swimming around, like, 460 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,560 "Wow, I can see everything. Oh, my God, I can see that woman's leg, 461 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,120 "it's so exciting." And then, that little bubble of water 462 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,040 just comes in, comes into your eye like that, and you're just blind. 463 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,680 Because the chlorine is actually in your eye and it was open, 464 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,520 when it shouldn't have been open underwater anyway. 465 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,560 No. I don't... 466 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,160 I really have a strong aversion to them. 467 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,200 They lull you into a false sense of security, 468 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:02,560 and then they just get you. 469 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,600 I don't... I don't get much leakage, though, 470 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,360 with the goggles. Maybe it's just me. 471 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:15,400 I've got quite a large eyebrow to sort of, cheekbone ratio. 472 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,680 So maybe it's that. Maybe I'm too excited in the water. 473 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,240 I'm like, "Ah!" Eyes are open really wide or something. 474 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:21,840 Maybe you need a welding visor? 475 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:25,880 Are you tightening them up properly? 476 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,520 Because they're very difficult to work. It's very difficult 477 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,840 to work out how to tighten up a pair of swimming goggles. 478 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,000 If they're a bit loose, and then you tighten them, 479 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:34,440 you always over judge it. Yeah. 480 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,600 You put them back on and go like that, "That's much better." 481 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,000 It feels like you've stuck your eyes into the ends of two Hoovers. 482 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,960 Yeah. That's the thing, you come out, you've been swimming, 483 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,440 and you're like, "Great, yeah!" You're about to go on a date, 484 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,000 and literally, you look like your eyes have been sucked out 485 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,840 of their sockets, but then just sort of popped back on. 486 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,520 It's like, that's not attractive. 487 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,760 Are you swimming your way to these dates? 488 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,080 I have to travel far to get them, trust me. 489 00:27:02,120 --> 00:27:05,320 Here's some examples of goggles I actually like. 490 00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:06,400 What about these? 491 00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:11,120 LAUGHTER 492 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,040 I would look... These... You might like these, Pearl, 493 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,680 because I think these retain a certain glamour in the water. 494 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,160 Oh, they're nice. Ooh! 495 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,760 That's a bit Dame Edna, isn't it? 496 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,960 I'm actually trying to flutter them, how can I possibly do that? 497 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,240 OK, we come to the end of this. 498 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,160 I... 499 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,600 I can't put swimming goggles in, Pearl, 500 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,440 because I can't really swim without them. 501 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,840 I wouldn't want to deprive you of that. 502 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,880 I think I'm not going to put haircuts in, 503 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,320 because I have had some very pleasurable... 504 00:27:51,360 --> 00:27:54,200 I once had a haircut... I was on tour and I went for a haircut, 505 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:55,920 the bloke said, "How do you want it?" 506 00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:00,360 And there was a poster of me across the road, and I said, "Like that." 507 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:01,840 Just for those moments. 508 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:04,880 So... That's brilliant. 509 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,200 ..I am going to put cartons of UHT milk into Room 101. 510 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,160 And that brings us to the end of the show. 511 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,840 Well done, Pearl, you were this week's winner 512 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,720 and our most persuasive guest. Yes! 513 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,120 I should do a dab now. 514 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,600 Thank you very much to Charlie Brooker, Scarlett Moffatt, 515 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,280 and Pearl Mackie. 516 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,120 And thank you, goodnight. 517 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,520 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE