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- Everybody, I feel like
everybody heals differently
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and everybody has a different
process of healing
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and dealing with trauma,
and like,
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events that have happened
with them.
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I was trying to heal it
on my own.
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- Hi, Josiah!
Smile, come on!
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- Come on! Wah!
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- Ah, he's not doing it.
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- Do you take the
responsibilities as parents
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to raise,
promise to do all you can,
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to help present Josiah
to know Jesus?
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- Yes, we do.
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-
Qu'est-ce que tu penses, Jos?
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Est-ce que tu surpris?
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Qui est là? Qui est l?
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Merci pour Bella Bella.
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- Thank you, Bella Bella.
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- I'm Black, I'm from Haiti.
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I got adopted into a half
white-half Native family.
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Because of that,
I got Native status.
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This is the only life
I've known. This is day one.
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- Coming bowling with us?
What the heck?
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Of course, you're coming
bowling with us.
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It's always a toss up -
basketball, bowling,
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basketball, bowling. Right?
- Uh--
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- We go bowling like, once
every five years so it's,
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so it's hard for us
to get good at it.
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- Literally, I haven't--
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- Happy adoption day, Everyone.
Woo-hoo!
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- Can you believe
it's been 22 and 23 years?
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Like, how did that happen?
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- It only became fun when
I was born though, right?
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- The heck?!
-
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- Don, this chicken's
really good.
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- Unlike you,
you tell Mom everything.
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- I'm glad you like it.
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- Yo, you gotta get one of
these guys on your farm.
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The all-black chickens.
- Oh, yeah, yeah.
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- The Blacks are black meat
and everything.
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I don't know where
they're from, but--
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- They're from Indonesia.
- All right, let's go get one.
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- Yeah. Like, they're black,
black, black.
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Even their meat is dark, dark,
dark purple.
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- So weird.
- Yeah.
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- That doesn't look appetizing.
- A black pig.
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Black is beautiful!
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- It's true.
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- I don't even know
what age I even like,
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it hit me that I was adopted,
or nothin', like,
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honestly, for the longest time,
I thought
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I was just the same
as everybody else.
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All I knew is I didn't
actually have a like,
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a birth Mom and Dad,
and all that stuff.
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Like, that's all I knew.
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I knew, I knew something
was up because I was like,
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I don't actually
have parents, like,
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I'm living with somebody else.
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Something that I didn't
know yet was just off,
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and it was that like,
that connection,
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that like full blood on
connection.
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They never really made it seem
like if I was different,
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or anything like that like--
I felt like, the same,
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but I knew something
wasn't fully there.
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- Our adoption day tradition
has always been to say
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that it's a very special time,
and we all get very cheesy,
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so I'm trying not
to be cheesy, Josiah.
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He's like, "Don't get cheesy."
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- Are we all gonna say one
thing we appreciate?
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- No that's Thanksgiving.
-
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- But anyways, our tradition
has always been just to say
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that Mariah and Josiah
are amazing, and we love them,
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and we're so happy that
they're in our family.
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- Don't drag it on.
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- We have to leave in
five minutes, for bowling.
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- Uh, okay. Goodbye.
- Jos, don't run away!
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- No.
- You're very fun.
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- Always give thanks to God
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for giving Mariah and Josiah
to our family.
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Always.
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I think um,
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you're much easier
to look after
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before you turn 26.
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- I agree.
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- Alright.
-
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- Okay, Jos, your turn.
Damian, your turn.
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- I've gotta thank Josiah
for toughening me up
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and roughing me around
all until I was like, 13.
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And now I'm immune.
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Stronger, because of him.
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And then, thanks for Mariah,
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for showing me the other side
of siblings.
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- We didn't know what the hell
we were doing,
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but it turned out pretty good.
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- We did not know what
the hell we were doing.
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Nowadays, people have read
like, 19 books
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before they even get pregnant,
and we didn't read anything,
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we didn't know anything,
we didn't, had no idea.
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- Remember that time and
we had that quilt thing,
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and it was one
of the few blankets.
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- Oh, and she got all
tangled up in it.
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- And she got tangled up in it
and her whole head
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was wrapped in that quilt.
- Oh, my God.
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- And she fell off the end
of the bed into a basket
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with this thing wrapped
around her head.
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I'm like, "Why does
she sound so muffled?"
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- What the heck?!
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That's why you don't put
blanket on a baby!
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- That explains a lot.
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- We didn't have anything
there! No crib.
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- We had no nothing.
We literally,
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were not going to Haiti
to try to find kids.
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She landed in our laps.
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As a Heiltsuk person,
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home will always be Bella
Bella,
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will always be the Heiltsuk
Nation.
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The kids always knew that.
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They knew that that's
where Daddy's from,
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that's where our family all is.
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I had 14 years to live immersed
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in my Nation and my community,
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and I haven't had that
opportunity ever since.
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I watch it all from afar.
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It didn't take the core
identity out of me.
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- This is Bella Bella.
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- And I still identify as a,
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as a Heiltsuk person above,
above all else.
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- Look at Mama!
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- And I tried to instil that
connectedness to my children.
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- Welcome home.
That is beautiful!
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You guys did a great job.
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- We go to Bella,
and like, they love us.
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- Papa can ring for service!
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- We've been part
of the family there.
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They, they treat us like
one of their own, they,
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it ain't no different.
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So, I mean, they've always
just accepted us,
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which is beautiful.
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- Hey!
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- Hey-hey-hey!
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- Oh! Ooh!
- Yo, this guy!
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- He would've been like,
that's not my name.
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As long as I can
remember,
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basketball has been the one
thing that I've played,
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dreamt of.
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It was very important to me,
like,
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I played it from a young age,
I played on multiple teams,
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I travelled all over with them.
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I won a couple championships,
and whatnot.
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Basketball was always like,
the one that stuck around,
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like, no matter what else
I did, or whatever,
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I'd always come back to
basketball at the end
of the day.
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It was a very important
piece of my life.
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So, Josiah got involved
with the high school team
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and some community leagues,
and he just loved it
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and he was really good at it.
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And he got invited
to participate
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in the Heiltsuk Nation um,
Junior All Native team.
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The All Native basketball
tournament is a big deal
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on the West Coast.
Basketball is,
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is the sport that everybody
is really passionate about,
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and it goes back a long ways,
like decades.
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Teams would train all year,
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they would bring all
of their village pride
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to the tournament and
compete for their Nations.
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So, this was a really cool
way for him
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to get involved with people
from home, and sort of learn,
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and connect,
and learn about the culture.
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He played for two years
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at the All Native basketball
tournament.
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Until the third year,
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somebody protested
his involvement,
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and one of their rules was that
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an individual had to be born
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with at least one-eighth
Indigenous blood.
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That is a type of a blood
quantum rule.
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They can't legally be
that, because I was adopted,
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and it's, from,
from me being adopted,
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it's pretty much the same
thing as if I had Native blood,
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because it's not like if I had
a choice for this situation.
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But they didn't want
to see it like that.
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And then, when they found
out that he was born Haitian
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and we adopted him, they
said well, he can't play.
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Who is
Indigenous?
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The question has been
at the centre
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of a controversial decision
to deny Josiah Wilson
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from playing in the All Native
basketball tournament.
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- He had already provided
his status card uh,
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as proof that his is a
Registered Status Indian.
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- The family was shocked
when the 21 year old
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was sent a letter barring
him from playing
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in the All Native Basketball
Tournament.
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- Do you consider yourself
First Nations?
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- Yes, I do. I've been,
I've been part
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of the community in Bella Bella,
the Heiltsuk community,
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for a while now, and I was
a social worker out there
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and I helped out with the kids,
and everything like that.
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So, yeah, I do consider myself
part of their community.
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I was actually shocked and hurt,
just knowing that
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after two years of playing
for the All Native,
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and they've seen me play before,
and then just boom,
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they say that I can't play
for them,
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I was actually very shocked
on that.
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If they see that I'm adopted
and I have a Native status,
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I feel like I should be allowed
to play.
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- You got this!
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- You're gonna break
things here.
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- It goes by the name.
- Well, that's racist.
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- What?
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- Why do the Black kids
have to go last, huh?
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- Wait a minute, no,
I go first!
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- Yeah, you literally put--
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- I put my name in first.
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Okay!
This looks promising, Dad!
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- Yeeahhhh!
- Okay.
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I told Mariah if she doesn't
get a strike
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she can't come back home,
that's it.
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- Oh, maybe, maybe, maybe! Oh!
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I'm very proud
of my parents for like,
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making those choices that
they made in their life
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to adopt two, beautiful,
great kids from Haiti,
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and then, um, having two
of their own as well,
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and then like, being able to,
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to bond and to be stronger
as a family,
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I think that's awesome
how that story played out.
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Adoption is,
certainly in my world view,
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it's a very powerful thing.
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- I was so close!
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We were young and naive,
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not knowing what we were
getting ourselves into.
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Ended up moving to Haiti.
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The chapter of our lives
in Haiti
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still reverberates today
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because we ended up starting
our family down there
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and adopting our two kids.
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Bumpy ride,
but we're at...
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at Numerson's compound
in Léogâne.
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I had a nursing degree;
she was a teacher.
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We thought we could do some
good in the world
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and we looked for
opportunities,
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so we both ended up
working in the hospital.
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In my culture,
in the Heiltsuk culture,
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adoption has been a very
important part of our culture.
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It's the way we grow our
families and,
246
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and strengthen ties
between communities,
247
00:14:01,928 --> 00:14:04,887
so adoption was nothing
strange or new, to me.
248
00:14:09,152 --> 00:14:11,067
Doesn't matter how you
have your children,
249
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you just love them. You,
you would do anything for them.
250
00:14:18,988 --> 00:14:21,382
There's the family
that we're born into,
251
00:14:21,425 --> 00:14:23,558
there's the family
that we married into.
252
00:14:23,601 --> 00:14:25,603
- Okay, avec la, okay.
253
00:14:29,433 --> 00:14:32,349
Even though my ex-wife
and I are divorced,
254
00:14:32,393 --> 00:14:35,613
we still act like a family
255
00:14:35,657 --> 00:14:38,138
because we love these kids
so much.
256
00:14:38,181 --> 00:14:41,010
- Eh, dansez-vous!
257
00:14:49,018 --> 00:14:50,715
- I mean, it was a good night,
though. I ain't gonna lie
258
00:14:50,759 --> 00:14:52,804
like, we had fun,
to an extent.
259
00:14:52,848 --> 00:14:55,198
I mean, they had fun.
I had--
260
00:14:55,242 --> 00:14:57,331
- You didn't have fun?
261
00:14:57,374 --> 00:15:00,160
- Hmm, I enjoyed seeing
my Grandma.
262
00:15:02,466 --> 00:15:04,947
So, I haven't seen her in like
three and a half, four months.
263
00:15:04,991 --> 00:15:06,557
So, it was definitely a good
thing for me to see her.
264
00:15:08,298 --> 00:15:10,257
Dad asked if my Grandma was
there, I already told, um,
265
00:15:10,300 --> 00:15:12,650
I would've dipped out so quick.
I wouldn't have stayed.
266
00:15:14,087 --> 00:15:16,872
My Grandma, she's my OG, yo!
- Yeah?
267
00:15:16,916 --> 00:15:18,961
- Ever since my Grandpa
passed away,
268
00:15:19,005 --> 00:15:21,094
I just had to be there
for her and like,
269
00:15:21,137 --> 00:15:23,879
my Grandpa was the, my day one.
Yo, like,
270
00:15:23,923 --> 00:15:25,098
I'll show you my Grandpa, y'all.
271
00:15:25,141 --> 00:15:26,664
This man,
272
00:15:28,275 --> 00:15:29,537
he's straight Native,
you know what I'm sayin',
273
00:15:31,017 --> 00:15:32,801
like, this is my Dad's Dad.
274
00:15:32,844 --> 00:15:34,455
I could straight up
consider them like,
275
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a second set of parents,
pretty much.
276
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Maybe even a third or fourth
set of parents, if you wanna,
277
00:15:40,678 --> 00:15:43,246
go, like that,
but that's another story.
278
00:15:43,290 --> 00:15:45,031
From the moment that,
279
00:15:45,074 --> 00:15:47,207
honestly, from the moment that
my parents got separated,
280
00:15:47,250 --> 00:15:50,123
'til like, 'til now, yo,
my Grandma, my Grandpa
281
00:15:50,166 --> 00:15:52,168
have been like, literally
the closest, beside my homies.
282
00:15:53,822 --> 00:15:55,650
Oh, yeah, this is,
this is my,
283
00:15:55,693 --> 00:15:57,652
this is one of the first times
Papa ever went to Haiti.
284
00:15:57,695 --> 00:15:59,871
I think this is like, their
only time they've ever went.
285
00:15:59,915 --> 00:16:01,482
That was like, one thing
I was actually upset
286
00:16:01,525 --> 00:16:03,266
when he passed away is like,
287
00:16:03,310 --> 00:16:05,268
he really wanted to go back
to Haiti again.
288
00:16:05,312 --> 00:16:08,315
You know, he was definitely
one of a guy, one of a kind guy,
289
00:16:08,358 --> 00:16:10,273
like, yeah, he was special.
290
00:16:11,709 --> 00:16:13,189
He was really special to me.
291
00:16:17,802 --> 00:16:19,717
- I saw this guy downtown,
this white guy,
292
00:16:19,761 --> 00:16:21,154
with the worst dreads.
I was just like, "Oh, my God."
293
00:16:21,197 --> 00:16:23,243
- He was white?
294
00:16:23,286 --> 00:16:25,027
- First of all, white people
shouldn't have dreads, but-
295
00:16:25,071 --> 00:16:26,681
That's what I'm saying, white
people don't get dreads.
296
00:16:26,724 --> 00:16:28,639
- But-
- Yo, they're ugly.
297
00:16:28,683 --> 00:16:30,902
- Because their hair doesn't
lock, right, properly.
298
00:16:30,946 --> 00:16:33,731
But also, they were really
hideous looking.
299
00:16:34,863 --> 00:16:37,039
- So disrespectful.
So racist.
300
00:16:37,083 --> 00:16:38,519
- That's, yeah,
he shouldn't be wearing--
301
00:16:38,562 --> 00:16:40,738
- So racist to have red dreads
like that, you ugly ass.
302
00:16:40,782 --> 00:16:42,523
- I think--
303
00:16:44,133 --> 00:16:45,482
- I like, keeping hollers to
be like, "Who does your hair?"
304
00:16:45,526 --> 00:16:47,528
- Uh huh! I know!
305
00:16:47,571 --> 00:16:49,530
- All I'm saying is that,
fuck all that other shit,
306
00:16:49,573 --> 00:16:51,445
my Mom knows what she's doin'.
307
00:16:51,488 --> 00:16:53,273
We don't need all those
extra tools.
308
00:16:53,316 --> 00:16:55,057
Y'all got money though?
If y'all got money,
309
00:16:55,101 --> 00:16:56,754
you can come,
you know what I'm saying?
310
00:16:56,798 --> 00:16:58,669
- Exactly, you gonna pay me?
- Ten percent for the boy,
311
00:16:58,713 --> 00:17:00,454
you know, 90% for her,
you know what I'm saying?
312
00:17:00,497 --> 00:17:03,109
- Oh, ten, okay,
that sounds fair.
313
00:17:03,152 --> 00:17:05,502
Trying to make you look good.
Price you pay to be beautiful.
314
00:17:06,808 --> 00:17:08,375
- Well, it shouldn't hurt
to be beautiful.
315
00:17:08,418 --> 00:17:10,246
- Well, I know, it shouldn't,
316
00:17:10,290 --> 00:17:12,248
but tell that to every woman
who waxes her legs.
317
00:17:12,292 --> 00:17:14,381
You're gonna be so handsome
after this.
318
00:17:18,037 --> 00:17:20,691
The thing that he said then,
and he said as he got older,
319
00:17:20,735 --> 00:17:22,476
Dad shouldn't have left us.
320
00:17:22,519 --> 00:17:24,086
Everybody leaves.
321
00:17:25,783 --> 00:17:27,655
Our divorce was extremely
hard on him
322
00:17:29,396 --> 00:17:31,746
and he has taken that on
as a bit of an abandonment.
323
00:17:36,881 --> 00:17:40,363
And so, then being rejected by
the Indigenous community
324
00:17:40,407 --> 00:17:42,583
and that basketball community
that had been important to him,
325
00:17:42,626 --> 00:17:44,150
there's been a lot there
that he has to work through.
326
00:17:46,978 --> 00:17:49,198
Everybody's always looking
for where do they belong
327
00:17:49,242 --> 00:17:51,809
in the world, and that was
a place he belonged, right.
328
00:17:54,377 --> 00:17:56,727
What about
this stings the most,
329
00:17:56,771 --> 00:18:00,209
I mean, this idea that you're,
you're not Native enough
330
00:18:00,253 --> 00:18:02,211
to participate
in the tournament?
331
00:18:02,255 --> 00:18:03,995
- Even though I have status
332
00:18:04,039 --> 00:18:06,563
and I've been part of the
community for a long time now,
333
00:18:06,607 --> 00:18:08,522
and I lived out there
with my Grandma,
334
00:18:08,565 --> 00:18:10,350
just not being able to go up
there this year with the boys,
335
00:18:10,393 --> 00:18:12,787
to see them,
everything just hurts.
336
00:18:14,354 --> 00:18:16,617
It made a scar on me,
you know what I'm saying,
337
00:18:16,660 --> 00:18:18,793
like, it definitely let a mark.
338
00:18:18,836 --> 00:18:20,708
Who are you to tell me
that I ain't Native?
339
00:18:22,666 --> 00:18:25,974
As a Black person adopted
by a non-Black family,
340
00:18:26,017 --> 00:18:28,150
he's already had to contend
with that side
341
00:18:28,194 --> 00:18:31,110
of his identity
and figure out who he was.
342
00:18:32,850 --> 00:18:35,114
He came into our family by
adoption and not by birth,
343
00:18:35,157 --> 00:18:37,855
doesn't make him any less
legitimately Heiltsuk.
344
00:18:39,030 --> 00:18:41,076
The blood quantum rule,
345
00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:43,426
if you carry it to
its logical conclusion,
346
00:18:43,470 --> 00:18:46,212
it will eliminate and erase
Indigenous people down the road.
347
00:18:47,604 --> 00:18:50,041
That's a colonial concept
348
00:18:50,085 --> 00:18:52,609
that has been imposed
on Indigenous people.
349
00:18:52,653 --> 00:18:56,874
Kinship and family
is so important to us.
350
00:18:56,918 --> 00:18:58,833
It's nobody else's business
to tell us
351
00:18:58,876 --> 00:19:01,140
who belongs and who doesn't.
352
00:19:01,183 --> 00:19:04,055
It's kind of one of the last
things we have to protect
353
00:19:04,099 --> 00:19:08,016
is who we are, and our way
of life, and you know,
354
00:19:08,059 --> 00:19:10,366
kinship and that part
of our identity
355
00:19:10,410 --> 00:19:12,281
is crucial to our survival.
356
00:19:14,153 --> 00:19:15,937
I decided I wouldn't
let it pass
357
00:19:15,980 --> 00:19:19,201
and tried to engage
some communication
358
00:19:19,245 --> 00:19:21,029
with the All Native Basketball
Tournament committee,
359
00:19:21,072 --> 00:19:23,336
and they wouldn't talk.
360
00:19:23,379 --> 00:19:27,122
So, I took it to the British
Columbia Human Rights Tribunal
361
00:19:27,166 --> 00:19:29,429
and lodged a formal complaint.
362
00:19:29,472 --> 00:19:31,474
So, it's important
to read the question over
363
00:19:31,518 --> 00:19:34,260
a couple of times.
Especially on a final exam.
364
00:19:34,303 --> 00:19:39,265
So, 12,000, arrears were,
divide that by 12 months.
365
00:19:39,308 --> 00:19:42,877
The adjustment amount
would have been $1000.
366
00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,880
So on future test or exams
ask yourself
367
00:19:47,751 --> 00:19:50,276
what period am I preparing
this financial statement...?
368
00:19:50,319 --> 00:19:52,103
It was very traumatic,
369
00:19:52,147 --> 00:19:54,541
like it just had me questioning
so much and just like,
370
00:19:54,584 --> 00:19:56,238
it just had me all fucked up.
371
00:19:59,198 --> 00:20:00,721
It was around that time too,
was when I really started
372
00:20:00,764 --> 00:20:02,244
becoming a stoner, and whatnot.
373
00:20:04,899 --> 00:20:06,683
I definitely used weed like,
374
00:20:06,727 --> 00:20:08,946
to cope with a bunch
of that bullshit.
375
00:20:10,513 --> 00:20:12,254
Doing that, that was definitely
keeping me distracted
376
00:20:12,298 --> 00:20:15,083
and whatnot, and trying not to
think of all this negativity,
377
00:20:15,126 --> 00:20:16,693
and all that bullshit,
and all that.
378
00:20:23,700 --> 00:20:26,007
- Yeah, a lot of like,
the fats, and lipids
379
00:20:26,050 --> 00:20:28,183
and like, the toxins
that you would find.
380
00:20:28,227 --> 00:20:29,967
Like, I don't know, like you
don't get the heavy tars
381
00:20:30,011 --> 00:20:31,708
from burning it,
like when you smoke a bong,
382
00:20:31,752 --> 00:20:33,536
or when you smoke a joint.
383
00:20:33,580 --> 00:20:35,973
You can like, feel the like,
heavy kind of resins and tars.
384
00:20:36,017 --> 00:20:38,324
Whereas you do this, it's
already, it's all kind of,
385
00:20:38,367 --> 00:20:40,282
all that stuff's been removed,
so, you're just kinda getting
386
00:20:40,326 --> 00:20:42,893
all the good stuff
in one little bunch.
387
00:20:52,207 --> 00:20:54,383
I'll be flying like,
in February though,
388
00:20:54,427 --> 00:20:56,385
because I have to go to a
basketball tournament in BC,
389
00:20:56,429 --> 00:20:59,127
for like, this whole thing.
- Yeah.
390
00:20:59,170 --> 00:21:01,303
- So, it's like maybe.
I don't know if I'm gonna stay
391
00:21:01,347 --> 00:21:03,087
up for the whole tournament,
yet.
392
00:21:03,131 --> 00:21:04,872
I just wanna go see my cousins
and my homies,
393
00:21:04,915 --> 00:21:07,004
and all that stuff, the family.
394
00:21:07,048 --> 00:21:10,007
And then, deal with the stuff
I gotta deal with.
395
00:21:10,051 --> 00:21:12,532
It's crazy how packed it gets.
It's wild.
396
00:21:12,575 --> 00:21:14,229
It's honestly a good time
though, it's just like,
397
00:21:14,273 --> 00:21:17,145
a huge gathering of like,
Native clans,
398
00:21:17,188 --> 00:21:18,886
just to play ball.
It's honestly like,
399
00:21:18,929 --> 00:21:20,627
it's a good time,
that's all it is.
400
00:21:20,670 --> 00:21:22,933
But I mean, that's what it was.
401
00:21:22,977 --> 00:21:24,979
It was supposed to be,
but they fucked up.
402
00:21:25,022 --> 00:21:27,024
But who knows.
403
00:21:28,678 --> 00:21:30,941
Only time can tell, I guess.
404
00:21:49,438 --> 00:21:52,528
A washing ceremony
is a way, culturally,
405
00:21:52,572 --> 00:21:55,357
we take away the negative
influence and impact
406
00:21:55,401 --> 00:21:57,794
of a bad experience on someone
407
00:21:57,838 --> 00:21:59,840
and we wash it off
of the trauma
408
00:21:59,883 --> 00:22:01,232
and the negativity of that.
409
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,414
- Yo, what's goin' on?
- How you doin', Big Papa?
410
00:22:08,457 --> 00:22:09,980
- What's goin' on?
- I'm good, man. How ya doin'?
411
00:22:10,024 --> 00:22:12,287
- Good to see you.
- You too, Boss.
412
00:22:12,331 --> 00:22:14,420
- What ya doin'?
- Man, we're just goin' up
to Rupert.
413
00:22:14,463 --> 00:22:15,943
- You playin'?
- No, not this year.
414
00:22:15,986 --> 00:22:18,032
- I'm playing.
- You're playing?
415
00:22:18,075 --> 00:22:19,990
When my dad first told
me about the washing ceremony,
416
00:22:20,034 --> 00:22:22,036
I was like, "What?"
417
00:22:22,079 --> 00:22:24,081
I ani't never heard of
something like that before,
418
00:22:24,125 --> 00:22:26,780
but then he explained it to me,
and I was like, you know what,
419
00:22:26,823 --> 00:22:29,565
this could be something
we could do.
420
00:22:29,609 --> 00:22:31,175
Over there, I don't know
if you can see the lights,
421
00:22:31,219 --> 00:22:33,482
there's like, that's the city,
Bella Bella.
422
00:22:33,526 --> 00:22:35,789
But like, we just take them up,
and now we're goin',
423
00:22:35,832 --> 00:22:37,834
now we're goin' like, up north.
424
00:22:37,878 --> 00:22:39,619
It's like, it's Natives.
425
00:22:42,709 --> 00:22:44,972
- Jos!
426
00:22:45,015 --> 00:22:47,191
- Oh, come here, kid!
Oh, my God!
427
00:22:47,235 --> 00:22:50,020
I've been lookin' for you
this whole time.
428
00:22:50,064 --> 00:22:51,674
How you doin', girl?
- Good.
429
00:22:57,158 --> 00:22:59,682
- The Rupert people that kicked
me outta this shit,
430
00:22:59,726 --> 00:23:02,119
saying I can't play because
I'm Black, know what I'm sayin'.
431
00:23:02,163 --> 00:23:04,426
But they didn't say those words,
but
432
00:23:04,470 --> 00:23:06,080
we all know that's what
they meant.
433
00:23:06,123 --> 00:23:08,517
See a Black man dunkin'
around and stuff like that,
434
00:23:08,561 --> 00:23:10,867
and actually you know, you
can't play, bro.
435
00:23:10,911 --> 00:23:13,304
But it is what it is,
you know what I'm sayin'.
436
00:23:13,348 --> 00:23:15,089
That's why we on this trip.
437
00:23:15,132 --> 00:23:17,178
Not knowin' what's poppin'.
438
00:23:17,221 --> 00:23:19,093
So is it that
you just like,
439
00:23:19,136 --> 00:23:21,182
you wanna meet people.
440
00:23:21,225 --> 00:23:22,966
- Yeah, the main thing. I just
wanna see who these niggas is.
441
00:23:27,406 --> 00:23:29,059
- Oh, y'all didn't hear about
that, huh? Y'all didn't hear,
442
00:23:29,103 --> 00:23:30,713
you didn't hear what
was happenin' with that?
443
00:23:30,757 --> 00:23:32,933
- What happened?
- Oh!
444
00:23:32,976 --> 00:23:34,978
Yeah, we're not getting it
no more.
445
00:23:36,502 --> 00:23:39,113
It's like, 'cause I didn't
come up last year
446
00:23:39,156 --> 00:23:41,463
because of my surgery, like,
as if it was my fault right,
447
00:23:41,507 --> 00:23:43,117
because you know like,
I planned to get surgery.
448
00:23:44,510 --> 00:23:46,512
So, if you can't do that man,
you a bum nigga.
449
00:23:46,555 --> 00:23:48,035
That's all I'm saying.
450
00:23:50,124 --> 00:23:52,082
But hey, like I said,
451
00:23:53,388 --> 00:23:54,911
we'll see what happens
when we get up there.
452
00:24:03,616 --> 00:24:05,531
- I'd like to call on the
453
00:24:05,574 --> 00:24:08,795
Intermediate Coach and Manager.
454
00:24:10,579 --> 00:24:11,754
So, you know, we had a problem
with getting Josiah
455
00:24:11,798 --> 00:24:13,669
on the basketball team,
456
00:24:15,279 --> 00:24:17,368
and we're thankful
for all our people
457
00:24:17,412 --> 00:24:20,154
for standing up for Josiah,
the Hereditary Chiefs,
458
00:24:20,197 --> 00:24:22,286
Tribal Council,
and all our people.
459
00:24:22,330 --> 00:24:24,071
You know, he was adopted
in the traditional way
460
00:24:25,420 --> 00:24:27,161
and we've always accepted him
461
00:24:27,204 --> 00:24:29,163
and we're so thankful for him
to be coming to play
462
00:24:29,206 --> 00:24:31,992
with his team, the young men
that he played with
463
00:24:32,035 --> 00:24:34,995
over the time at the All Native
Tournament.
464
00:24:35,038 --> 00:24:38,041
We all know that
Josiah's from Haiti,
465
00:24:38,085 --> 00:24:39,956
that's where he's originally
from,
466
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,306
but he only knows Heiltsuk,
you know,
467
00:24:42,350 --> 00:24:44,265
and that's the important part.
468
00:24:44,308 --> 00:24:46,615
So, we wanted to
do this here today
469
00:24:46,659 --> 00:24:49,009
because the All Native
Tournament committee
470
00:24:49,052 --> 00:24:51,228
wouldn't allow us to do it in
471
00:24:51,272 --> 00:24:53,143
the All Native Tournament,
472
00:24:54,275 --> 00:24:56,407
which is unfortunate.
473
00:24:56,451 --> 00:24:58,279
So, if we can stand up
in front of our people
474
00:24:58,322 --> 00:25:00,411
and just let him know
how happy we are to,
475
00:25:00,455 --> 00:25:02,544
to have him back here today.
476
00:25:02,588 --> 00:25:04,459
He knows how much you care
for him,
477
00:25:04,503 --> 00:25:06,548
because he can feel it.
478
00:25:06,592 --> 00:25:08,376
You know, he knows he's
around family right now.
479
00:25:14,817 --> 00:25:16,993
- Thank you.
480
00:25:17,037 --> 00:25:18,995
Thank you.
481
00:25:22,477 --> 00:25:24,566
I just wanted to say
thank you to all of you,
482
00:25:24,610 --> 00:25:26,263
for all the support
and all the love
483
00:25:26,307 --> 00:25:29,049
that you guys have shown
throughout the last four years
484
00:25:29,092 --> 00:25:31,399
since I got kicked out.
485
00:25:31,442 --> 00:25:33,053
Um, it's been hard on me
and my family,
486
00:25:33,096 --> 00:25:35,577
and I know it's been hard on
my teammates and my community,
487
00:25:35,621 --> 00:25:37,884
but I just wanted to say that
you guys stood behind me
488
00:25:37,927 --> 00:25:39,842
and was with me the whole time,
489
00:25:39,886 --> 00:25:41,670
so I just wanted to say
thank you a lot, for that.
490
00:25:41,714 --> 00:25:43,585
It means the world to me.
491
00:26:15,748 --> 00:26:18,489
- For those of you that don't
know the words of this song,
492
00:26:18,533 --> 00:26:21,449
it says "We are Heiltsuk,
We are strong.
493
00:26:23,494 --> 00:26:27,107
We are proud.
We are good-looking." Woo!
494
00:26:29,457 --> 00:26:31,764
So, that's to you, Josiah.
495
00:26:31,807 --> 00:26:33,330
- Thank you very much.
Thank you so much. Thank you.
496
00:26:35,724 --> 00:26:38,118
It's just tough for him
because he got robbed.
497
00:26:38,161 --> 00:26:41,382
Like, it hurts him.
Like, he'll never forget this.
498
00:26:41,425 --> 00:26:44,298
He got robbed of what,
three years now?
499
00:26:44,341 --> 00:26:46,953
Four.
- Four years,
500
00:26:46,996 --> 00:26:49,129
four years of basketball.
501
00:26:49,172 --> 00:26:52,349
One of things that got him
excited was to go to the...
502
00:26:52,393 --> 00:26:54,700
All Native, to us,
is the biggest thing for us.
503
00:26:54,743 --> 00:26:57,354
It's the most exciting thing,
one time of the year.
504
00:26:57,398 --> 00:27:00,270
We call it second Christmas,
right, like,
505
00:27:00,314 --> 00:27:02,751
that's how much we love
the All Native.
506
00:27:02,795 --> 00:27:04,971
He got an unfair shot right,
like,
507
00:27:05,014 --> 00:27:07,626
that's all he's ever known
is Heiltsuk.
508
00:27:07,669 --> 00:27:11,238
He's never known, really,
his other side until... what?
509
00:27:13,414 --> 00:27:15,068
- Until I was older.
- Yeah, yeah.
510
00:27:15,111 --> 00:27:17,157
- Even then it wasn't like,
I didn't,
511
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,202
I didn't know them the same
was as I did for Bella Bella.
512
00:27:19,246 --> 00:27:20,987
Like, I'd go to Haiti,
but it was like,
513
00:27:21,030 --> 00:27:23,119
my Mom's Grandma has
an orphanage over there,
514
00:27:23,163 --> 00:27:25,121
so it's not like I'm going
to see my blood family.
515
00:27:25,165 --> 00:27:27,167
Like, they all passed away,
and stuff like that.
516
00:27:27,210 --> 00:27:29,865
So, I mean, I don't,
when I go to Haiti, it's a trip,
517
00:27:29,909 --> 00:27:31,737
it's a vacation for me,
you know what I'm saying?
518
00:27:31,780 --> 00:27:33,564
When I come out here,
yeah, it's a vacation,
519
00:27:33,608 --> 00:27:35,566
but I'm coming out here
to see family and stuff,
520
00:27:35,610 --> 00:27:38,091
so, it's, it's two different
ways I see it.
521
00:27:38,134 --> 00:27:39,788
- It's good to see you though,
man.
522
00:27:39,832 --> 00:27:42,095
You too.
Good to see you.
523
00:27:42,138 --> 00:27:44,184
- Glad you're good.
- Thank you, you too.
524
00:27:44,227 --> 00:27:46,621
- At least you didn't get that
bad of a depression anyway.
525
00:27:46,665 --> 00:27:48,057
Could've went a whole
different way.
526
00:27:48,101 --> 00:27:50,016
- Mm-hmm.
- Right?
527
00:27:50,059 --> 00:27:51,931
- Wasn't too bad, like--
- At least you stayed positive.
528
00:27:51,974 --> 00:27:53,802
- Mm-hmm. I tried to,
- That's the good part.
529
00:27:53,846 --> 00:27:55,369
as much as I could. It was an
honour being on their team.
530
00:27:56,849 --> 00:27:58,633
- Our team.
- Our team.
531
00:27:58,677 --> 00:28:00,287
Yeah, our team.
532
00:29:32,509 --> 00:29:33,989
Amen.
533
00:30:14,943 --> 00:30:17,946
Coming to Prince Rupert
is a bit of an ordeal.
534
00:30:17,990 --> 00:30:20,514
If there was going to be
a public apology,
535
00:30:20,557 --> 00:30:23,517
that totally makes it worth it
to come all this way.
536
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,563
What is disappointing
is the lack of willingness
537
00:30:26,607 --> 00:30:29,784
to take accountability
for what they've done to him,
538
00:30:29,828 --> 00:30:32,656
to his family, to his Nation,
539
00:30:32,700 --> 00:30:35,094
to our elected leadership.
540
00:30:35,137 --> 00:30:39,011
They actually threatened
to ban the Heiltsuk team
541
00:30:39,054 --> 00:30:42,753
if we included something
like a welcome back gesture,
542
00:30:42,797 --> 00:30:46,148
for Josiah, and or,
a washing ceremony.
543
00:31:01,468 --> 00:31:06,081
Defence!
544
00:31:13,523 --> 00:31:15,395
- Let's go! Go!
- Woo!
545
00:31:24,708 --> 00:31:29,626
Defence!
546
00:31:38,897 --> 00:31:40,986
- They're switching everything.
That's what we've gotta do
547
00:31:41,029 --> 00:31:43,118
every time on that top side,
right.
548
00:31:43,162 --> 00:31:44,990
We've gotta make them make
decisions, right.
549
00:31:45,033 --> 00:31:46,643
If you're having
to pick up the ball,
550
00:31:46,687 --> 00:31:48,384
they're making sloppy
passes now.
551
00:31:48,428 --> 00:31:50,386
Continue to fight through.
Call those screws.
552
00:31:50,430 --> 00:31:53,041
Count on everything.
553
00:31:53,085 --> 00:31:54,782
This was like the big,
the big year for me,
554
00:31:54,825 --> 00:31:56,392
you know what I'm saying,
like I,
555
00:31:56,436 --> 00:31:58,829
I got a couple years they said
I couldn't play.
556
00:31:58,873 --> 00:32:01,963
Like, just a lot of work,
and time,
557
00:32:02,007 --> 00:32:04,052
and effort came to like,
this year.
558
00:32:04,096 --> 00:32:06,141
And then, I thought they
was gonna do the ceremony
559
00:32:06,185 --> 00:32:08,056
and all that,
and now they're not.
560
00:32:08,100 --> 00:32:11,016
Nothing. They didn't even
follow through with nothing.
561
00:32:11,059 --> 00:32:13,148
Other than saying that
I can come back and play.
562
00:32:14,845 --> 00:32:17,022
They put a big damper on me,
like,
563
00:32:17,065 --> 00:32:19,720
I've low-key kind of lost
hope for it.
564
00:32:19,763 --> 00:32:21,548
Like, I don't, I have no idea
what's happening anymore.
565
00:32:26,074 --> 00:32:29,034
- Man, you playing?
- Huh? Not this year,
566
00:32:29,077 --> 00:32:30,992
I got surgery over the summer,
so I'm in recovery.
567
00:32:31,036 --> 00:32:33,255
It's alright.
568
00:32:33,299 --> 00:32:35,040
It's, in the cold it
hurts because I mean,
569
00:32:35,083 --> 00:32:36,824
I've got a metal pole
in my foot,
570
00:32:36,867 --> 00:32:38,478
so when I get cold out
I feel it a lot,
571
00:32:38,521 --> 00:32:40,306
but right now,
I'm okay.
572
00:32:40,349 --> 00:32:42,438
It's just more recovery,
573
00:32:42,482 --> 00:32:44,005
but hopefully I'll be playing
next year.
574
00:32:45,572 --> 00:32:47,704
- Hello.
- Hey, what's up, man?
575
00:32:47,748 --> 00:32:49,706
- How ya doin'?
- How ya doin'? Good.
576
00:32:49,750 --> 00:32:51,839
- I'm good. How you doing?
I like your trainers.
577
00:32:51,882 --> 00:32:53,667
I'm not, not on TV right now,
but it will be.
578
00:32:55,495 --> 00:32:57,714
We're filming for the future.
579
00:32:57,758 --> 00:33:00,935
- Filming for the future?
- Yeah, man.
580
00:33:00,979 --> 00:33:03,024
- That's cool.
- Yeah, I know.
- That's lit.
581
00:33:03,068 --> 00:33:05,766
- Check out my nigger, Mark.
Ha ha.
582
00:33:06,854 --> 00:33:08,116
My nigga--
583
00:33:12,207 --> 00:33:13,730
- What the hell?
584
00:33:15,906 --> 00:33:17,734
Honestly,
it's gotten to the point
585
00:33:17,778 --> 00:33:19,910
where everybody be using
the word nigger nowadays,
586
00:33:19,954 --> 00:33:21,651
like I know so many people that
ain't niggers, they be like,
587
00:33:21,695 --> 00:33:24,089
bro, you the pastiest thing
alive, what do you mean?
588
00:33:24,132 --> 00:33:26,917
They all used the word,
trust me.
589
00:33:26,961 --> 00:33:28,876
I've kind of just accepted it.
590
00:33:35,143 --> 00:33:37,885
- I'm guessing, yes.
591
00:33:37,928 --> 00:33:40,061
Any dip in there, Ken,
for veggies?
592
00:33:41,715 --> 00:33:43,499
- Whoa!
593
00:33:43,543 --> 00:33:45,675
- I don't know what that is.
594
00:33:45,719 --> 00:33:47,677
- White people food.
- Mm-hmm.
595
00:33:49,984 --> 00:33:51,986
- You are what you eat.
596
00:33:52,030 --> 00:33:54,728
- Oh, brother!
597
00:33:54,771 --> 00:33:57,122
Oh!
- How are you?
598
00:33:58,993 --> 00:34:01,082
- Oh, it's nice to see you.
- It's good to see you, too.
599
00:34:01,126 --> 00:34:03,693
- You doin' okay?
- Yeah.
- So am I.
600
00:34:03,737 --> 00:34:05,782
- Good stuff. Yeah.
- Uh huh.
601
00:34:05,826 --> 00:34:08,524
- Well, I'm happy to see you.
602
00:34:08,568 --> 00:34:10,352
- Do you know what time
I've been up since?
603
00:34:10,396 --> 00:34:12,093
- I know but--
604
00:34:12,137 --> 00:34:13,921
- Yeah, a 12, 24-hour boat ride.
- Good.
605
00:34:17,664 --> 00:34:19,405
- Initially when I booked
my flight,
606
00:34:19,448 --> 00:34:22,234
there was this plan that there
would be something happening
607
00:34:22,277 --> 00:34:24,758
actually with the tournament
itself, like some sort of,
608
00:34:24,801 --> 00:34:28,283
they would provide some time
before, after, or during a game,
609
00:34:28,327 --> 00:34:30,677
sort of officially
with the tournament.
610
00:34:30,720 --> 00:34:32,722
With the committee refusing
611
00:34:32,766 --> 00:34:35,247
to acknowledge anything
publicly,
612
00:34:35,290 --> 00:34:38,293
it doesn't feel done to me,
but that's frustrating.
613
00:34:38,337 --> 00:34:41,340
How long did it, what time
were you guys there,
614
00:34:41,383 --> 00:34:43,168
like half an hour?
- Where, in Bella?
615
00:34:43,211 --> 00:34:45,126
- No, no in like--
- The room?
616
00:34:45,170 --> 00:34:46,997
The ceremony, yeah.
What about, not the ceremony,
617
00:34:47,041 --> 00:34:48,999
but you know what I mean.
- I don't even know.
618
00:34:49,043 --> 00:34:50,740
Couple minutes, like,
10, 20 minutes maybe.
619
00:34:50,784 --> 00:34:53,178
- Okay.
- It wasn't the longest thing.
620
00:34:53,221 --> 00:34:54,962
- No, but it was nice.
- It was just a quick thing.
621
00:34:55,005 --> 00:34:56,572
- Oh, that's good!
622
00:34:56,616 --> 00:34:58,835
- No, I am so grateful
for what they did.
623
00:34:58,879 --> 00:35:01,186
Because I just wish
I could've been there.
624
00:35:01,229 --> 00:35:03,144
- That's awesome. Yeah, me too.
That would've been neat.
625
00:35:03,188 --> 00:35:06,321
I'm not, I didn't really
miss the like,
626
00:35:06,365 --> 00:35:08,584
19-hour ferry ride,
to be honest.
627
00:35:08,628 --> 00:35:10,847
-
- You didn't miss nothin'.
628
00:35:10,891 --> 00:35:12,806
- Thank you, thank you,
thank you
629
00:35:12,849 --> 00:35:15,025
to everybody for coming
and being here today.
630
00:35:15,069 --> 00:35:17,680
Something that my daughter
and I talk about all the time
631
00:35:17,724 --> 00:35:19,856
that we're lacking,
we're missing here
632
00:35:19,900 --> 00:35:22,163
is just this family connections.
633
00:35:22,207 --> 00:35:25,775
- Love you all, and thank you
for supporting my boy,
634
00:35:25,819 --> 00:35:28,822
and with what he's been
going through.
635
00:35:28,865 --> 00:35:31,172
It's been a very um, it's been
quite the rollercoaster.
636
00:35:31,216 --> 00:35:33,174
- Yes.
637
00:35:33,218 --> 00:35:35,220
Yeah, I'm glad we can
all be here.
638
00:35:35,263 --> 00:35:38,179
And Liette, flying all the way
from Calgary today,
639
00:35:38,223 --> 00:35:40,268
Li getting up at four
in the morning.
640
00:35:40,312 --> 00:35:42,444
See, your parents,
641
00:35:42,488 --> 00:35:44,446
you might think your parents
might love you a bit.
642
00:35:44,490 --> 00:35:46,883
- Yeah.
-
643
00:36:02,290 --> 00:36:04,074
- I think it's, I feel like
maybe it's in the summertime.
644
00:36:04,118 --> 00:36:05,815
- Huh?
645
00:36:05,859 --> 00:36:07,643
- I think it's maybe
in the summertime,
646
00:36:07,687 --> 00:36:09,210
but I have no idea. I'll have
to check when I get back.
647
00:36:09,254 --> 00:36:10,907
- Okay.
648
00:36:18,393 --> 00:36:20,221
- Jasmine.
649
00:36:20,265 --> 00:36:22,919
Jasmine can you come here
for a minute, please?
650
00:36:22,963 --> 00:36:24,312
- They're struggling without
you.
651
00:36:25,879 --> 00:36:27,968
They'd like to hear Creole,
652
00:36:28,011 --> 00:36:29,622
so can you two talk
about something?
653
00:36:29,665 --> 00:36:31,667
- Or hey, you and my Dad
go ahead.
654
00:36:31,711 --> 00:36:33,408
Yeah, you and Don go ahead,
655
00:36:33,452 --> 00:36:34,801
because you guys
are better than me.
656
00:36:47,292 --> 00:36:48,945
- I understand. I understand
it; I don't speak.
657
00:36:54,995 --> 00:36:56,736
- Uh, A, took me out of
my beautiful country
658
00:36:56,779 --> 00:36:59,304
and brought me to the Badlands.
659
00:36:59,347 --> 00:37:00,957
Nobody speaks Creole here, yo,
how am I supposed to speak?
660
00:37:09,052 --> 00:37:11,490
Because we wanted them to have
that linguistic connections.
661
00:37:11,533 --> 00:37:15,276
So, it's ironic like,
I speak English, French,
662
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,671
Haitian Creole,
uh, a fair amount of Spanish,
663
00:37:18,714 --> 00:37:20,542
and American Sign Language,
664
00:37:20,586 --> 00:37:23,110
and tiny bit of Heiltsuk.
665
00:37:23,153 --> 00:37:26,505
I just wish I could speak
my original,
666
00:37:26,548 --> 00:37:30,683
my Aboriginal language
better than I speak it,
667
00:37:30,726 --> 00:37:33,294
but no opportunity.
I had way more opportunity
668
00:37:33,338 --> 00:37:35,470
to learn other languages
than my own.
669
00:37:35,514 --> 00:37:37,167
- And that's what they did
to me.
670
00:37:37,211 --> 00:37:39,082
They took me out of my native
language place
671
00:37:39,126 --> 00:37:41,128
and brought me up.
672
00:37:41,171 --> 00:37:43,304
- Josiah, that's why you speak
French, and then,
673
00:37:43,348 --> 00:37:45,088
when you go back to Haiti,
people can understand you.
674
00:37:45,132 --> 00:37:46,829
- Well, they look at me like,
man,
675
00:37:46,873 --> 00:37:48,788
what are you talkin' about?
- Yeah.
676
00:37:48,831 --> 00:37:51,051
- It's sad. It's not the same.
677
00:37:54,968 --> 00:37:56,883
- Oh, that flash was...!
-
678
00:37:56,926 --> 00:37:59,059
- Did it work?
679
00:37:59,102 --> 00:38:00,843
Okay, Josiah is the hard one
to see.
680
00:38:07,241 --> 00:38:09,374
My opinion, they're
just failing to recognize
681
00:38:09,417 --> 00:38:11,898
the human beings on the other
side of those rules.
682
00:38:11,941 --> 00:38:14,248
Rules are, they're necessary,
683
00:38:14,292 --> 00:38:16,598
you can't have a functional
tournament without rules,
684
00:38:16,642 --> 00:38:18,905
but on the other hand,
685
00:38:18,948 --> 00:38:21,429
there's sort of a rigidity
686
00:38:21,473 --> 00:38:23,823
and a lack of compassion
687
00:38:23,866 --> 00:38:26,347
regarding who is on the other
side of those rules.
688
00:38:28,218 --> 00:38:31,352
This whole experience has
been eye-opening, you know.
689
00:38:33,223 --> 00:38:35,400
- Tell me about it.
- Indigenous politics are,
690
00:38:35,443 --> 00:38:37,184
are complicated to begin with,
691
00:38:37,227 --> 00:38:39,534
and then you add Nation
allegiances
692
00:38:39,578 --> 00:38:41,623
and personalities,
693
00:38:43,886 --> 00:38:45,932
it's all, it is what it is.
694
00:38:47,412 --> 00:38:48,978
- Wow that sun is really
killing you.
695
00:38:49,022 --> 00:38:51,372
- It's hitting my eye,
like right in my eyes.
696
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,941
- Jos, you're gonna get black.
697
00:38:54,984 --> 00:38:57,770
- Hopefully.
698
00:38:57,813 --> 00:38:59,989
- You're gonna get darker.
- Hopefully.
699
00:39:00,033 --> 00:39:02,122
See, if you keep wearing
that jacket you're,
700
00:39:02,165 --> 00:39:03,863
you're gonna run out
of Vitamin D.
701
00:39:06,039 --> 00:39:08,302
You need the sun on your skin
to get Vitamin D.
702
00:39:08,346 --> 00:39:10,130
- I'll take medicine.
703
00:39:10,173 --> 00:39:12,393
- This is, this is your doctor
father speaking to you.
704
00:39:14,700 --> 00:39:17,006
- He might know a thing or two.
- I think you guys need
705
00:39:17,050 --> 00:39:18,530
a little bit more Vitamin D,
than me.
706
00:39:37,636 --> 00:39:39,551
It was nice
to be back and see
707
00:39:39,594 --> 00:39:41,422
all the homies and everything,
but at the same time,
708
00:39:41,466 --> 00:39:43,206
it was like, I don't know
if I wanna be part
709
00:39:43,250 --> 00:39:45,905
of such a negative thing,
you know?
710
00:39:49,691 --> 00:39:51,693
Our Hereditary Chiefs
are not satisfied
711
00:39:51,737 --> 00:39:53,956
at leaving it there.
712
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,828
Their desire and preference is
713
00:39:55,871 --> 00:39:58,613
to have a proper washing
ceremony for Josiah done
714
00:39:58,657 --> 00:40:01,268
in Bella Bella,
in the fall of 2019,
715
00:40:02,791 --> 00:40:05,925
to do it in our own territory.
716
00:40:05,968 --> 00:40:09,494
In some ways, it's gonna be
that much more powerful.
717
00:40:24,117 --> 00:40:27,294
- Ariane, this one's even
better! Come check this!
718
00:40:27,337 --> 00:40:29,165
- Hey, Mariah,
I'm in a really big rush.
719
00:40:29,209 --> 00:40:30,689
I have leave in 10 minutes.
- Man!
720
00:40:32,386 --> 00:40:34,301
Josiah was the cutest one
out of all four of us.
721
00:40:35,694 --> 00:40:37,347
Then, I don't know
what happened.
722
00:40:37,391 --> 00:40:39,349
At least he's actually legit
smiling 'cause like,
723
00:40:39,393 --> 00:40:41,264
there are times that honestly,
724
00:40:41,308 --> 00:40:43,484
smiling for Josiah
was like, not a thing.
725
00:40:43,528 --> 00:40:45,573
I guess every child
that gets adopted,
726
00:40:45,617 --> 00:40:48,881
they seem to have
different reactions.
727
00:40:50,491 --> 00:40:51,840
Sometimes they have different
way of coping
728
00:40:51,884 --> 00:40:54,016
through different situations,
and for Josiah,
729
00:40:54,060 --> 00:40:56,323
he's never really been great
at expressing himself.
730
00:41:00,066 --> 00:41:02,024
That's Josiah
with his Papa.
731
00:41:02,068 --> 00:41:04,592
That's who he was closest to.
732
00:41:04,636 --> 00:41:07,290
I guess probably
his favourite person.
733
00:41:09,945 --> 00:41:11,773
They always knew, and we always
talked about it,
734
00:41:11,817 --> 00:41:13,732
and we talked about how they
came to join our family.
735
00:41:13,775 --> 00:41:16,038
Mariah always had her
biological father in Haiti;
736
00:41:16,082 --> 00:41:17,736
we used to be able to go
and visit him
737
00:41:17,779 --> 00:41:20,216
and spend time with him.
And Josiah,
738
00:41:20,260 --> 00:41:22,175
both of his birth parents
had passed away,
739
00:41:22,218 --> 00:41:24,046
so there was definitely
a sense of, sort of,
740
00:41:24,090 --> 00:41:26,005
a real sense of loss
in his life.
741
00:41:26,048 --> 00:41:28,355
I think that's pretty normal
for adoptive kids
742
00:41:28,398 --> 00:41:30,400
to have to work through that in
various stages of their life,
743
00:41:30,444 --> 00:41:32,838
as they mature.
744
00:41:32,881 --> 00:41:35,188
It's like an onion, you don't
just deal with it once.
745
00:41:40,628 --> 00:41:42,587
I didn't even get
to really talk to my Mama
746
00:41:42,630 --> 00:41:44,458
because I mean,
she passed away so quick.
747
00:41:44,502 --> 00:41:47,417
I've always just had an image
that my Mama and my Papa
748
00:41:47,461 --> 00:41:49,202
are always watching over me.
So, I mean,
749
00:41:49,245 --> 00:41:51,030
I believe they're
watching over me.
750
00:41:55,077 --> 00:41:58,211
- Anything that my biological
children would have
751
00:41:58,254 --> 00:42:00,343
according to Canadian law,
752
00:42:00,387 --> 00:42:03,259
my adoptive children
also have the right too.
753
00:42:03,303 --> 00:42:05,610
So, that's why
they all have status,
754
00:42:05,653 --> 00:42:07,612
and people are like, "Oh, I
never thought of it that way."
755
00:42:07,655 --> 00:42:10,092
- And I think the other thing
is like, Indigeneity
756
00:42:10,136 --> 00:42:13,618
is not necessarily blood.
- Blood, right.
757
00:42:13,661 --> 00:42:16,055
- It's not blood, it's like,
involvement in your community.
758
00:42:16,098 --> 00:42:19,667
It's like, informing people,
it's having like a pride
759
00:42:19,711 --> 00:42:21,408
and like, knowing your culture.
- Yeah.
760
00:42:21,451 --> 00:42:23,584
- It's not just,
"Oh, I'm full Native,
761
00:42:23,628 --> 00:42:25,847
I'm 100%," like,
that's kind of weird.
762
00:42:25,891 --> 00:42:28,807
Blood just doesn't constitute
being an Indigenous person,
763
00:42:28,850 --> 00:42:31,244
fully to me.
764
00:42:31,287 --> 00:42:33,594
And a lot of like,
our questions about um,
765
00:42:33,638 --> 00:42:35,422
being Heiltsuk are always gonna
come back to us being,
766
00:42:35,465 --> 00:42:37,598
white passing.
- Yeah.
767
00:42:37,642 --> 00:42:40,209
- For sure, because to me,
I do feel
768
00:42:40,253 --> 00:42:42,081
a responsibility to my
community
769
00:42:42,124 --> 00:42:44,823
but I also almost feel like
I don't have a say,
770
00:42:44,866 --> 00:42:46,651
and I don't want to centre
myself in these discussions.
771
00:42:46,694 --> 00:42:48,087
What is this white girl doing?
772
00:42:48,130 --> 00:42:50,176
Talking about our issues,
773
00:42:50,219 --> 00:42:52,439
centring yourself on our issues,
774
00:42:52,482 --> 00:42:54,833
when she's not living
the same experiences as us.
775
00:42:56,574 --> 00:42:58,880
Obviously, in terms of like,
my ancestry and my Dad,
776
00:42:58,924 --> 00:43:02,057
like I am in Indigenous person
but I don't look like one.
777
00:43:02,101 --> 00:43:04,669
I can very easily navigate
like, the world,
778
00:43:04,712 --> 00:43:07,410
in way that I could pretend
that I am not Indigenous at all.
779
00:43:07,454 --> 00:43:09,935
- I had this teacher
in elementary, I think,
780
00:43:09,978 --> 00:43:12,198
that didn't believe me
I was First Nations,
781
00:43:12,241 --> 00:43:15,027
for some reason,
just super strange.
782
00:43:15,070 --> 00:43:17,638
And like, the next day
I brought my status card
783
00:43:17,682 --> 00:43:20,902
to school, she was like,
"Oh, like..." you know,
784
00:43:20,946 --> 00:43:23,252
because I don't look it, right.
So, I mean, it does happen.
785
00:43:25,515 --> 00:43:28,344
But there's a sense of like,
resentfulness
786
00:43:28,388 --> 00:43:31,434
when it comes to being white.
Do I personally want
787
00:43:31,478 --> 00:43:34,133
to identify more with
or whatever, right.
788
00:43:34,176 --> 00:43:37,136
And it's a tough question
and I feel like I always
789
00:43:37,179 --> 00:43:39,138
kind of struggle with it.
790
00:43:39,181 --> 00:43:41,662
- Josiah, you were very cute.
We were watching baby pictures.
791
00:43:41,706 --> 00:43:43,446
- I know I was cute.
Y'all always tell me that.
792
00:43:44,883 --> 00:43:46,928
- Why you always so mad?
Just be happy.
793
00:43:46,972 --> 00:43:48,930
- Yeah, and I was lying on the
ground and you were next to me,
794
00:43:48,974 --> 00:43:50,845
Josiah, and I just put my arm
around you like,
795
00:43:50,889 --> 00:43:52,673
"Josiah," just gonna lie there.
796
00:43:52,717 --> 00:43:54,675
- Josiah, you actually
used to love me.
797
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,069
You were always, you were
playing trucks in my face,
798
00:43:57,112 --> 00:43:59,332
and you were trying to get
me to play trucks.
799
00:43:59,375 --> 00:44:01,595
- Yeah, yeah, the keyword,
they keyword, "loved".
800
00:44:01,639 --> 00:44:03,684
- Isn't that sad, though?
- No, not really.
801
00:44:03,728 --> 00:44:05,686
- I'm sad about it.
802
00:44:05,730 --> 00:44:07,775
- Like, I remember in high
school, he would like,
803
00:44:07,819 --> 00:44:09,995
protect me from like, the big,
scary people who would like,
804
00:44:10,038 --> 00:44:11,866
make fun of me, or they would
like, say things to me
805
00:44:11,910 --> 00:44:13,694
that were offensive,
and he'd be like,
806
00:44:13,738 --> 00:44:15,130
"Oh, you're gonna talk
to my sister like that?
807
00:44:15,174 --> 00:44:17,567
And [grumbles]" And kinda like,
scare them away.
808
00:44:17,611 --> 00:44:19,657
So, he definitely cares
about me and I know that.
809
00:44:19,700 --> 00:44:21,920
- If anything happens in this
thing, you know what I'm sayin',
810
00:44:21,963 --> 00:44:23,791
it ain't 'cause of her,
it's 'cause of me.
811
00:44:23,835 --> 00:44:25,706
- Josiah.
- So just know.
812
00:44:25,750 --> 00:44:27,708
- This would not have
happened without Dad
813
00:44:27,752 --> 00:44:29,797
and us pushing you to do it
to begin with.
814
00:44:29,841 --> 00:44:32,321
- My nigga, it would've
happened either way.
815
00:44:34,541 --> 00:44:36,456
You know why?
816
00:44:36,499 --> 00:44:38,763
'Cause the world needs
to know that I am--
817
00:44:38,806 --> 00:44:40,416
- This is not your attitude!
818
00:44:40,460 --> 00:44:42,201
You're just stunting
for cameras.
819
00:44:42,244 --> 00:44:44,420
- I'm just talking outta my ass.
- Stunting for the camera.
820
00:44:44,464 --> 00:44:46,771
- Always talking outta my ass.
She's been knowing that shit.
821
00:44:46,814 --> 00:44:48,598
- Okay, well, you promised me
a hug from this morning.
822
00:44:48,642 --> 00:44:50,470
- No, I didn't.
- Yeah, ya did.
823
00:44:50,513 --> 00:44:52,646
- My nigger--
- If I change numbers.
824
00:44:52,690 --> 00:44:55,257
Yeah, you did!
You promised. Oh.
825
00:44:55,301 --> 00:44:57,607
- Now, hey, listen to me.
- I love you.
826
00:44:57,651 --> 00:45:00,045
- Get outta here!
- Gotta get one more!
827
00:45:00,088 --> 00:45:02,743
- Come on!
That was your turn!
828
00:45:02,787 --> 00:45:05,833
- Oh, can I get one on
the, when I'm back?
829
00:45:05,877 --> 00:45:07,530
- We'll see how ya did!
830
00:45:09,184 --> 00:45:11,447
See what I mean
by tough love?
831
00:45:11,491 --> 00:45:14,450
- Anyway, I love him.
He's my brother, so.
832
00:45:16,104 --> 00:45:17,453
- And he puts on like,
a brave face for everything,
833
00:45:17,497 --> 00:45:19,368
like he won't, even like,
834
00:45:19,412 --> 00:45:21,588
I don't think I've seen him cry
835
00:45:21,631 --> 00:45:23,938
since probably
my Grandpa passed away,
836
00:45:23,982 --> 00:45:26,462
and even that was like,
one tear. He just like,
837
00:45:26,506 --> 00:45:28,595
he might have cried
in private and stuff,
838
00:45:28,638 --> 00:45:30,902
but he's like, like really,
really private
839
00:45:30,945 --> 00:45:32,599
and he doesn't really share
his emotions, at least with us.
840
00:45:34,644 --> 00:45:36,168
♪ Jesus loves me
841
00:45:36,211 --> 00:45:38,997
♪ Yes, he does love me
842
00:45:41,739 --> 00:45:44,785
Ah, ici, Ariane.
- Ariane! Hey.
843
00:45:44,829 --> 00:45:46,047
Hey. Ariane!
844
00:45:46,091 --> 00:45:48,310
That's not nice.
845
00:45:53,838 --> 00:45:55,796
- Hold up. Hi, hi, hi!
-
846
00:46:15,685 --> 00:46:17,513
- Ah!
- Yeah!
- Ah!
847
00:46:20,038 --> 00:46:21,909
- Whoa, Jos!
848
00:46:28,655 --> 00:46:31,614
- Um, I've asked you
a few times
849
00:46:31,658 --> 00:46:34,313
but can you talk
about your Dad?
850
00:46:34,356 --> 00:46:37,446
- I mean, we can maybe talk
about him. Not today.
851
00:46:37,490 --> 00:46:38,970
- Not today?
- Maybe another day.
852
00:46:39,013 --> 00:46:40,841
- Okay.
853
00:46:42,495 --> 00:46:44,627
- I don't know we,
we had our differences.
854
00:46:44,671 --> 00:46:47,587
You know, I dunno, stuff
happened in the past.
855
00:46:47,630 --> 00:46:50,503
We kinda, I kinda just didn't
accept stuff
856
00:46:50,546 --> 00:46:52,722
and got upset.
857
00:46:52,766 --> 00:46:55,769
And I, I just kinda did
my own thing, really.
858
00:46:55,813 --> 00:46:58,859
But... I dunno,
life happens, really.
859
00:47:00,905 --> 00:47:03,733
We fight too much, honestly.
Like, I, I'm honestly,
860
00:47:03,777 --> 00:47:05,474
I'm just an instigator
with my family.
861
00:47:05,518 --> 00:47:07,825
I'm always starting
some shit, yo.
862
00:47:07,868 --> 00:47:10,262
I don't even know why half
the time, I just, I dunno,
863
00:47:10,305 --> 00:47:12,090
I'm an instigator
for some reason.
864
00:47:12,133 --> 00:47:13,874
I'm always, there's always
some shit goin' down
865
00:47:13,918 --> 00:47:15,615
and I'm always in the middle
of it.
866
00:47:15,658 --> 00:47:17,486
It's always Josiah
and this, Josiah and that.
867
00:47:17,530 --> 00:47:20,272
But so, we figured out
that like,
868
00:47:20,315 --> 00:47:22,578
the best thing for us,
869
00:47:22,622 --> 00:47:24,537
I just stay away from them
and we all be good.
870
00:47:26,017 --> 00:47:27,540
I don't go out instigating
everybody,
871
00:47:27,583 --> 00:47:29,542
just like really
my siblings mainly.
872
00:47:29,585 --> 00:47:31,283
But I don't know, there's
something about the way
873
00:47:31,326 --> 00:47:34,373
they react it just,
oh, it gets me.
874
00:47:34,416 --> 00:47:37,376
Makes me happy.
I dunno.
875
00:47:37,419 --> 00:47:40,074
Me and Mariah, we had thing
goin' on when we was kids
876
00:47:40,118 --> 00:47:43,295
like, we was like, we was
honestly OG's and then,
877
00:47:43,338 --> 00:47:46,341
these white things came around.
878
00:47:47,865 --> 00:47:49,562
Changed the whole game.
879
00:47:52,782 --> 00:47:54,828
- And who? What are,
what are white things?
880
00:47:54,872 --> 00:47:57,526
- Ariane and Tevan! Yeah.
881
00:47:57,570 --> 00:48:00,442
Me and Mariah,
Liette and Don,
882
00:48:00,486 --> 00:48:02,575
were living good, y'all.
Know what I'm saying?
883
00:48:02,618 --> 00:48:05,056
Life was good.
We was out in Vancouver
884
00:48:05,099 --> 00:48:07,841
doing our thing, me and Mariah
would eat some Cheerios
885
00:48:07,885 --> 00:48:10,365
behind the toilet
at like 5:00 a.m. sometimes,
886
00:48:10,409 --> 00:48:12,324
you know. Just the way it was,
you know what I'm saying, like.
887
00:48:13,978 --> 00:48:15,936
And then we had some more kids.
888
00:48:15,980 --> 00:48:18,156
Well, not we, but them. What?
889
00:48:18,199 --> 00:48:20,201
And then the house
just got packed, like,
890
00:48:20,245 --> 00:48:22,812
people everywhere and always
just, there was so much,
891
00:48:22,856 --> 00:48:24,640
there was just too much goin'
on all the time.
892
00:48:26,729 --> 00:48:29,341
Like, there was just never
a quiet place.
893
00:48:29,384 --> 00:48:30,864
It was kind of annoying
honestly, sometimes.
894
00:48:34,650 --> 00:48:37,392
Honestly, I think ever since
my Grandpa passed away really,
895
00:48:37,436 --> 00:48:40,178
I was definitely that hurt,
that hurt a lot.
896
00:48:40,221 --> 00:48:43,833
But he was like the main,
he kept me in order, yo.
897
00:48:43,877 --> 00:48:45,574
He, he didn't like when I,
when I fought with the,
898
00:48:45,618 --> 00:48:47,446
with the other kids,
and stuff like that.
899
00:48:47,489 --> 00:48:50,057
So, he'd always keep me
straight. He'd be like, "Hey!"
900
00:48:50,101 --> 00:48:52,364
Whenever I'd start some shit,
he'd be like, "Josiah!"
901
00:48:54,018 --> 00:48:55,410
So, like, he kept me in order.
And then, like...
902
00:48:58,718 --> 00:49:00,850
don't mean I don't like him,
though.
903
00:49:00,894 --> 00:49:02,678
He's always gonna be my blood
and whatnot,
904
00:49:02,722 --> 00:49:06,160
but that dude piss me off
sometimes. I tell ya that.
905
00:49:18,346 --> 00:49:20,000
I might be playing now.
906
00:49:20,044 --> 00:49:21,480
So, I don't know what's
happening really,
907
00:49:21,523 --> 00:49:23,308
but I was on the phone
with them just now, so.
908
00:49:23,351 --> 00:49:25,832
We'll see what happens.
909
00:49:25,875 --> 00:49:29,009
- Okay. So, you'd be playing
with the Heiltsuk team?
910
00:49:29,053 --> 00:49:31,664
- Yeah, I guess so.
Okay, yo, um,
911
00:49:31,707 --> 00:49:34,101
I got a call today saying
that they want me to play
912
00:49:34,145 --> 00:49:35,929
for the tournament now.
913
00:49:35,973 --> 00:49:38,323
Okay. Bella Bella?
914
00:49:38,366 --> 00:49:40,934
- Yeah, but I'm figuring it out.
Like, I messaged him.
915
00:49:40,978 --> 00:49:42,980
I messaged the coach yesterday
and he's like,
916
00:49:43,023 --> 00:49:44,633
"Oh, I'll get back to you
this afternoon, so."
917
00:49:44,677 --> 00:49:46,418
- I would, I mean,
I would love to see you play
918
00:49:46,461 --> 00:49:48,333
in the tournament.
That would just go.
919
00:49:48,376 --> 00:49:49,682
- Yeah, I mean, I'm cool
with just going too,
920
00:49:49,725 --> 00:49:51,423
but alright, okay.
921
00:49:51,466 --> 00:49:53,468
- I know, but it's better
if you can play.
922
00:49:53,512 --> 00:49:56,036
- Let's get it!
- How does it feel?
923
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,125
- I mean, I don't know.
Good, I guess.
924
00:49:58,169 --> 00:50:00,301
I don't really have emotions
for it. Doesn't really faze me.
925
00:50:00,345 --> 00:50:02,956
It is what it is.
926
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,740
It was meant to happen.
I don't know.
927
00:50:06,742 --> 00:50:08,483
I'm not gonna say that like,
I'm overly excited or like,
928
00:50:08,527 --> 00:50:11,095
out of joy just for the... no.
929
00:50:11,138 --> 00:50:13,053
Cool, I'm playing ball.
930
00:50:13,097 --> 00:50:14,054
That's that.
931
00:50:49,350 --> 00:50:51,787
- Oh, it be like that, though.
- It be like that.
932
00:50:51,831 --> 00:50:54,181
- I just, I literally
was chilling one day
933
00:50:54,225 --> 00:50:55,835
and I seen a nigger
and I was like,
934
00:50:55,878 --> 00:50:57,793
that kid right there,
that's my bro.
935
00:50:57,837 --> 00:50:59,534
And that's how it went.
- Is that how it went?
936
00:50:59,578 --> 00:51:01,580
- Pretty much.
- Yo, literally like,
937
00:51:01,623 --> 00:51:03,495
ever since we was young
938
00:51:03,538 --> 00:51:05,410
we either was gonna become
athletes
939
00:51:05,453 --> 00:51:07,368
or was gonna get into the music
industry or something.
940
00:51:07,412 --> 00:51:09,327
Like, I mean, we stuck by.
941
00:51:09,370 --> 00:51:11,416
For the longest time we were
straight, we played,
942
00:51:11,459 --> 00:51:13,331
we played sports. Like,
the weed and all this shit,
943
00:51:13,374 --> 00:51:15,376
the lifestyle you guys see now,
man,
944
00:51:15,420 --> 00:51:17,204
this came like years after
fucking high school, bro.
945
00:51:19,119 --> 00:51:21,339
Yeah, no I'm going back now.
- What, to play?
946
00:51:21,382 --> 00:51:23,776
- Yeah. I got a call today.
- Have fun with your lungs.
947
00:51:23,819 --> 00:51:26,387
- Fuck me.
-
948
00:51:26,431 --> 00:51:29,260
- Better start that cardio.
- Better play half court, then.
949
00:51:29,303 --> 00:51:30,783
- Oh, Josiah, you're actually
trying to hoop again?
950
00:51:30,826 --> 00:51:32,785
- Hoop?
Oh, like, it's goin' down.
951
00:51:32,828 --> 00:51:35,353
Like, I'm going up.
- Yikes.
952
00:51:35,396 --> 00:51:37,006
- I wanna come watch.
WE should just go to watch.
953
00:51:37,050 --> 00:51:38,878
- Fuck you, guys.
954
00:51:38,921 --> 00:51:42,055
Can I just say, bro, I'm sorry,
I'll give you a hoop mix tape.
955
00:51:42,099 --> 00:51:44,971
- When he plays he's gonna
beyond fitted out of his mind
too,
956
00:51:45,014 --> 00:51:47,321
so like, you know, like--
957
00:51:47,365 --> 00:51:49,236
- I don't work out,
I don't run, I don't hoop,
958
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,021
I barely eat, I smoke weed.
959
00:51:52,065 --> 00:51:53,849
- Whadda ya mean ya barely?
That shit.
960
00:52:01,118 --> 00:52:02,336
- Um,
961
00:52:04,208 --> 00:52:08,037
I think it's definitely like
harder when you're younger
962
00:52:08,081 --> 00:52:11,432
'cause you're a little bit
more unappreciative.
963
00:52:11,476 --> 00:52:15,088
'Cause I mean, for me,
'cause I was always thinking
964
00:52:15,132 --> 00:52:17,438
that I still wanted my family
there
965
00:52:17,482 --> 00:52:20,180
and this wasn't really my
family here until like,
966
00:52:20,224 --> 00:52:21,877
I grew up and I started
appreciating
967
00:52:21,921 --> 00:52:23,966
what they actually do for me.
968
00:52:24,010 --> 00:52:27,100
But for the most part
it's pretty good.
969
00:52:27,144 --> 00:52:29,276
- It's kinda, it's kind of,
with the all Native shit,
970
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,235
I don't, I didn't really
know any different,
971
00:52:31,278 --> 00:52:32,975
you know what I'm sayin',
like this is how it was.
972
00:52:33,019 --> 00:52:34,586
Like, I had no other choice.
973
00:52:34,629 --> 00:52:36,457
So, it's like,
it is what it is.
974
00:52:36,501 --> 00:52:38,851
But like, I don't know,
975
00:52:38,894 --> 00:52:40,679
I'm not even gonna talk bad
about my parents or nothing,
976
00:52:40,722 --> 00:52:42,637
like I fucks with them but...
977
00:52:42,681 --> 00:52:45,118
I don't know there's definitely,
978
00:52:45,162 --> 00:52:46,598
I dunno, something different
about it, y'all.
979
00:52:46,641 --> 00:52:48,904
Something's weird about it.
980
00:52:48,948 --> 00:52:52,821
- I don't think me personally,
I would do adoption though.
981
00:52:52,865 --> 00:52:55,389
Just from knowing
how I went through.
982
00:52:55,433 --> 00:52:57,304
- I don't think I would
personally.
983
00:52:57,348 --> 00:52:59,698
I've always thought about doing
it just because I feel like,
984
00:52:59,741 --> 00:53:01,656
okay, yeah, there are those
struggling kids out there,
985
00:53:01,700 --> 00:53:03,615
and all that, that want,
like that need a family,
986
00:53:03,658 --> 00:53:05,443
but at the same time
it's like,
987
00:53:05,486 --> 00:53:07,314
I don't know if I wanna
do that to a kid.
988
00:53:07,358 --> 00:53:09,098
Like, I don't know, it's that
weird feeling like yeah,
989
00:53:09,142 --> 00:53:11,405
no, there's all the love and
everything there, but like--
990
00:53:11,449 --> 00:53:13,712
- It's not the same.
991
00:53:13,755 --> 00:53:16,062
- I feel like there's different
energy it being like,
992
00:53:16,105 --> 00:53:18,151
your legit blood,
you know what I'm saying.
993
00:53:18,195 --> 00:53:20,458
And I could be wrong,
but I mean, that's how I feel.
994
00:53:20,501 --> 00:53:23,287
I just feel like there's
something different there
that's like--
995
00:53:23,330 --> 00:53:24,331
- I just felt like it's like,
996
00:53:25,898 --> 00:53:27,247
like especially like for us,
997
00:53:29,510 --> 00:53:32,339
you're not really gonna
know what that real Mom
998
00:53:32,383 --> 00:53:35,647
love feel like, or real Dad
love feel like.
999
00:53:35,690 --> 00:53:37,910
- 'Cause you know
how whenever--
1000
00:53:37,953 --> 00:53:39,955
- Straight from your own blood,
you know what I mean.
1001
00:53:39,999 --> 00:53:41,740
- Cuz, you know, how every
Mother says there's like,
1002
00:53:41,783 --> 00:53:44,438
that motherly love? Like--
- Yeah. We don't have that.
1003
00:53:44,482 --> 00:53:48,312
- What mother? I don't know?
I haven't met. Cool.
1004
00:53:48,355 --> 00:53:49,835
- What is it, like you know
what I mean? Like, you know.
1005
00:53:49,878 --> 00:53:52,054
- I got the love that I got.
1006
00:53:52,098 --> 00:53:53,926
And I'm not saying it
was shitty,
1007
00:53:53,969 --> 00:53:56,233
I'm not saying there's like,
any better or wrong way,
1008
00:53:56,276 --> 00:53:58,278
but I mean like--
- You only knew one thing.
1009
00:53:58,322 --> 00:54:00,933
- Yeah, so I mean, you never,
- It was regular.
1010
00:54:00,976 --> 00:54:02,761
- There's a feel, there's
a tension, or something.
1011
00:54:02,804 --> 00:54:04,458
- Yeah.
- At the end of the day,
1012
00:54:04,502 --> 00:54:06,460
you know like,
we're different
1013
00:54:06,504 --> 00:54:09,463
- There's that image of niggers,
you know what I'm saying,
1014
00:54:09,507 --> 00:54:12,988
and I am a nigger.
And the way that I dress.
1015
00:54:13,032 --> 00:54:15,295
Like, the people,
like just my lifestyle,
1016
00:54:15,339 --> 00:54:17,993
I've got that image portrayed
around me, so it's like.
1017
00:54:19,734 --> 00:54:21,823
And then you've got my siblings
that are the good white kids,
1018
00:54:21,867 --> 00:54:24,173
you know what I'm saying.
So, it's like,
1019
00:54:24,217 --> 00:54:26,393
am I competing against them,
or what? Like--
1020
00:54:26,437 --> 00:54:28,917
I'm not gonna say they treated
us differently, but I just,
1021
00:54:28,961 --> 00:54:31,485
I don't know, just like,
the energy around us,
1022
00:54:31,529 --> 00:54:33,400
and like at times I've just,
I've noticed some.
1023
00:54:33,444 --> 00:54:35,968
But I don't know,
I guess it is what it is.
1024
00:55:00,471 --> 00:55:02,777
Back home in Bella Bella,
1025
00:55:02,821 --> 00:55:05,258
when we were growing up,
if you did something wrong
1026
00:55:05,302 --> 00:55:06,825
with your fishing skills,
or whatever,
1027
00:55:06,868 --> 00:55:10,219
you got called a farmer.
1028
00:55:10,263 --> 00:55:13,440
So, I never dreamed
I would be doing this.
1029
00:55:13,484 --> 00:55:17,401
But it matches my philosophy
of raising your own food
1030
00:55:17,444 --> 00:55:19,446
and I'm a meat eater,
1031
00:55:19,490 --> 00:55:22,188
so I like the idea of knowing
where it comes from.
1032
00:55:26,192 --> 00:55:28,150
I grew up in the 70s,
in Bella Bella.
1033
00:55:30,327 --> 00:55:32,503
When I was growing up,
1034
00:55:32,546 --> 00:55:36,245
most of my exposure to religion
was the United Church
1035
00:55:36,289 --> 00:55:38,378
because we lived literally
across the street
1036
00:55:38,422 --> 00:55:41,294
from the United Church building.
1037
00:55:41,338 --> 00:55:44,384
Missionaries have been
involved in,
1038
00:55:44,428 --> 00:55:47,387
in my Nation since the 1800's
or maybe even earlier.
1039
00:55:49,868 --> 00:55:52,566
There had been uh, influence
1040
00:55:52,610 --> 00:55:54,351
of more Evangelical
Christianity
1041
00:55:54,394 --> 00:55:57,528
that had some kind of
an impact on social norms
1042
00:55:57,571 --> 00:56:00,444
or social values becoming a
little bit more conservative
1043
00:56:00,487 --> 00:56:03,403
in that domain.
1044
00:56:03,447 --> 00:56:06,798
Religion became a bigger
thing for me
1045
00:56:06,841 --> 00:56:10,105
after I left Bella Bella
and um,
1046
00:56:10,149 --> 00:56:11,933
left and went away
for high school
1047
00:56:11,977 --> 00:56:13,848
and got more deeply involved.
1048
00:56:15,546 --> 00:56:17,025
If you were LGBT,
1049
00:56:18,679 --> 00:56:20,725
which I actually didn't
know that I was
1050
00:56:20,768 --> 00:56:23,467
when I left Bella Bella
at age 14,
1051
00:56:23,510 --> 00:56:26,731
it took about a year
before I consciously realized
1052
00:56:26,774 --> 00:56:28,733
that I was gay,
1053
00:56:28,776 --> 00:56:30,822
but I couldn't accept it.
1054
00:56:32,693 --> 00:56:35,740
And just as I became aware
that I was gay,
1055
00:56:35,783 --> 00:56:38,438
there was this big debate over
whether you were acceptable
1056
00:56:38,482 --> 00:56:41,093
as a person, or not.
1057
00:56:41,136 --> 00:56:44,618
And so, I wasn't about
to come out of the closet.
1058
00:56:44,662 --> 00:56:48,230
And then I got in my
relationship with my ex-wife,
1059
00:56:48,274 --> 00:56:51,277
with Liette,
and we fell in love
1060
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,323
and it was legit,
and got married,
1061
00:56:54,367 --> 00:56:56,282
because that's just what
you did back in those,
1062
00:56:56,325 --> 00:56:58,545
in those circles.
1063
00:56:58,589 --> 00:57:01,548
You didn't prolong
a relationship um,
1064
00:57:01,592 --> 00:57:03,463
and move in together
without being married.
1065
00:57:03,507 --> 00:57:05,900
That was prohibited
by the church.
1066
00:57:05,944 --> 00:57:08,120
And that kinda took
precedence over my,
1067
00:57:08,163 --> 00:57:09,948
my Heiltsuk identity.
1068
00:57:12,429 --> 00:57:15,170
Um, and it wasn't until
13 years into marriage
1069
00:57:15,214 --> 00:57:17,695
when I just couldn't,
couldn't um,
1070
00:57:19,348 --> 00:57:21,481
pretend to be something
that I wasn't anymore,
1071
00:57:21,525 --> 00:57:25,224
and then, came out and
we separated and divorced,
1072
00:57:25,267 --> 00:57:28,183
and sorted all of that out
afterwards.
1073
00:57:29,402 --> 00:57:31,056
Come here, Bella.
1074
00:57:31,099 --> 00:57:32,971
But I feel like
I was railroaded
1075
00:57:33,014 --> 00:57:35,495
into that path of life
1076
00:57:35,539 --> 00:57:37,845
where you had to just follow
the evangelical
1077
00:57:37,889 --> 00:57:40,326
uh, script.
1078
00:57:40,369 --> 00:57:43,503
I've completely discarded
and rejected all of that
1079
00:57:43,547 --> 00:57:46,288
because I feel like
it was so damaging.
1080
00:57:46,332 --> 00:57:48,769
Like, why can't you be
who you are?
1081
00:57:48,813 --> 00:57:51,337
If there is a Creator,
1082
00:57:51,380 --> 00:57:54,035
the Creator made me who
and what I am,
1083
00:57:54,079 --> 00:57:56,342
and I'm not, I'm not gonna
try to mess with that.
1084
00:58:09,355 --> 00:58:12,967
As a gay man
with two partners,
1085
00:58:13,011 --> 00:58:15,361
a polyamorous triad
relationship,
1086
00:58:15,404 --> 00:58:17,319
well, that's my family.
1087
00:58:22,194 --> 00:58:24,588
In a lot of ways,
I, I live with that decision
1088
00:58:24,631 --> 00:58:28,548
to not come out of the closet
for so many years,
1089
00:58:28,592 --> 00:58:30,637
and how it impacted people,
1090
00:58:30,681 --> 00:58:33,031
especially Liette
and my children,
1091
00:58:33,074 --> 00:58:35,468
but on the other hand, like,
she's a remarkable person.
1092
00:58:35,512 --> 00:58:38,384
I, I just think I, I,
I don't know,
1093
00:58:38,427 --> 00:58:41,213
I won the lottery
of the universe
1094
00:58:41,256 --> 00:58:43,476
having her as the Mother
of my children,
1095
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,566
because she's done
such a good job
1096
00:58:46,610 --> 00:58:49,177
getting through all of that,
moving on with her life,
1097
00:58:49,221 --> 00:58:53,007
while maintaining a
relationship with someone who,
1098
00:58:53,051 --> 00:58:55,923
in a lot of ways,
although unintentionally,
1099
00:58:55,967 --> 00:58:58,230
it was a betrayal.
1100
00:58:58,273 --> 00:59:01,407
So, you know, I feel bad
about that, even to this day,
1101
00:59:01,450 --> 00:59:03,365
I probably will
to the day I die.
1102
00:59:04,932 --> 00:59:08,196
So, in a lot of ways,
I felt very unburdened.
1103
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:11,678
And then, in other ways,
by doing so,
1104
00:59:11,722 --> 00:59:14,986
I just destroyed someone's
life,
1105
00:59:15,029 --> 00:59:18,424
namely my ex-wife, right,
1106
00:59:18,467 --> 00:59:21,688
and threatened the sort of
psychological stability
1107
00:59:21,732 --> 00:59:24,430
and well-being of my children
by initiating a divorce.
1108
00:59:27,389 --> 00:59:29,304
I don't doubt that Josiah
loves me.
1109
00:59:29,348 --> 00:59:31,045
I, I know he does,
1110
00:59:31,089 --> 00:59:34,701
um, but whether it's a,
1111
00:59:34,745 --> 00:59:37,182
it's a conflicted thing
that he has to go through,
1112
00:59:38,705 --> 00:59:39,706
that's his journey.
1113
00:59:41,403 --> 00:59:43,841
My, my journey was
conflicted as well.
1114
00:59:43,884 --> 00:59:47,496
So, I, I just hope that
eventually at some point
1115
00:59:47,540 --> 00:59:50,499
or other, he just comes
to realize that you don't,
1116
00:59:50,543 --> 00:59:52,501
you don't always get
to pick your family.
1117
00:59:52,545 --> 00:59:55,069
Sometimes you do,
but you don't usually.
1118
00:59:55,113 --> 00:59:57,245
So, it is what it is.
1119
01:00:27,580 --> 01:00:29,887
This is Bella Bella.
1120
01:00:29,930 --> 01:00:31,758
Honestly, for me, this is
the closest I get to Haiti,
1121
01:00:31,802 --> 01:00:33,760
'cause like, you've got water,
the weather's beautiful,
1122
01:00:33,804 --> 01:00:35,196
you got a little bit
of sunshine.
1123
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,546
Calgary, you got nothin'
of that.
1124
01:00:37,590 --> 01:00:40,288
So, I mean, honestly,
feel, being here,
1125
01:00:40,332 --> 01:00:42,203
I'm like, this is like,
pretty much my second,
1126
01:00:42,247 --> 01:00:44,292
I'd say this is probably like
second closest home to Haiti.
1127
01:00:44,336 --> 01:00:46,512
So, for me, it's definitely
a vibe coming out here.
1128
01:00:46,555 --> 01:00:48,340
And I mean, just my Grandpa,
like, my Grandpa was like,
1129
01:00:48,383 --> 01:00:50,559
really the backbone of me
and all that.
1130
01:00:50,603 --> 01:00:52,561
So, just being here is like,
it just make,
1131
01:00:52,605 --> 01:00:53,911
I feel like I'm closer to him,
and all that.
1132
01:00:53,954 --> 01:00:55,608
And I mean like, his burial
is over there, so,
1133
01:00:55,652 --> 01:00:58,524
I mean, yeah, no,
I flex with this place.
1134
01:00:58,567 --> 01:01:00,744
It's definitely,
it's definitely a spot.
1135
01:01:00,787 --> 01:01:03,485
Like, these people are homies;
they family, and all that.
1136
01:01:03,529 --> 01:01:05,009
So, it's dope.
1137
01:01:08,012 --> 01:01:10,797
I dunno, growing up,
after my parents got a divorce,
1138
01:01:10,841 --> 01:01:12,756
I was a really difficult child.
1139
01:01:12,799 --> 01:01:14,801
Went through a bunch
of rough stages.
1140
01:01:14,845 --> 01:01:16,542
Fucked shit up.
Was really angry.
1141
01:01:16,585 --> 01:01:18,370
Just not happy with life
and just everything.
1142
01:01:18,413 --> 01:01:21,373
So um, ever since then,
1143
01:01:21,416 --> 01:01:24,724
I definitely pushed away
from my parents,
1144
01:01:24,768 --> 01:01:26,813
and I just like, I don't know,
1145
01:01:26,857 --> 01:01:28,728
I definitely made it a weird
situation with them, like,
1146
01:01:28,772 --> 01:01:31,165
from like, the age of probably
like, 12, 13,
1147
01:01:31,209 --> 01:01:33,037
'til I was like,
1148
01:01:35,256 --> 01:01:37,563
shit like, 18, 19,
1149
01:01:37,606 --> 01:01:39,347
maybe 20, 21,
something like that.
1150
01:01:40,958 --> 01:01:42,786
I was just a,
I was just a shit.
1151
01:01:42,829 --> 01:01:45,136
They pretty much like, ignited
the rowdiness in my life, yo.
1152
01:01:45,179 --> 01:01:48,008
If anything, it was on them.
I blame you!
1153
01:01:48,052 --> 01:01:50,445
Like, if it wasn't for them,
yo, I was a chill kid.
1154
01:01:50,489 --> 01:01:52,230
Somewhat chill,
you know what I'm saying.
1155
01:01:52,273 --> 01:01:54,362
Like, I was somewhat chill.
Life might've been different;
1156
01:01:54,406 --> 01:01:56,147
life might've not been
different.
1157
01:01:56,190 --> 01:01:57,975
Who knows what
would've happened
1158
01:01:58,018 --> 01:01:59,628
if I didn't go through the way,
life as I did,
1159
01:01:59,672 --> 01:02:01,630
you know what I'm saying, so.
1160
01:02:01,674 --> 01:02:03,458
And I've said
this multiple times,
1161
01:02:03,502 --> 01:02:05,591
if you ask me when I see
a family, I see,
1162
01:02:05,634 --> 01:02:08,681
I picture Mama, Papa,
junior, and sissy,
1163
01:02:08,725 --> 01:02:10,814
alls chillin' under one roof,
you know what I'm saying.
1164
01:02:10,857 --> 01:02:13,947
That's how, that's how when,
and if you asked me
1165
01:02:13,991 --> 01:02:15,819
when I was 10 years old
or when I was younger.
1166
01:02:15,862 --> 01:02:17,821
If you ask me now, if you
ask me in like, 50 years,
1167
01:02:17,864 --> 01:02:21,999
when you ask me when I see a
family, that's what I see, like.
1168
01:02:22,042 --> 01:02:24,479
Or you could've asked me how,
how I would've wanted it to go,
1169
01:02:24,523 --> 01:02:26,873
I would've been like, no, don't,
like there's no break-ups,
1170
01:02:26,917 --> 01:02:28,440
like, shut the fuck up,
like, that's stupid.
1171
01:02:28,483 --> 01:02:30,659
But I mean, I, I can't tell
them to do that, you know.
1172
01:02:30,703 --> 01:02:34,402
So, it is what it is,
but yeah, no, yeah,
1173
01:02:34,446 --> 01:02:36,274
no that's pretty much it, like.
1174
01:02:38,537 --> 01:02:40,191
- So, how did your, what
was the conversation like,
1175
01:02:40,234 --> 01:02:44,021
when your Dad, like,
came out to you guys?
1176
01:02:44,064 --> 01:02:45,457
I don't know,
you'd have to ask him.
1177
01:02:47,111 --> 01:02:49,156
I try not to keep--remember
that shit in my life.
1178
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,898
I just toss that all out really.
I don't, I don't care about it.
1179
01:02:51,942 --> 01:02:54,074
Like, you'd have to ask him
if you really wanna know.
1180
01:02:54,118 --> 01:02:56,860
He could tell you, probably.
I honestly probably left
1181
01:02:56,903 --> 01:02:58,426
halfway through. I did,
I did leave halfway through,
1182
01:02:58,470 --> 01:03:00,298
so I really wouldn't know.
- Really?
1183
01:03:00,341 --> 01:03:02,343
- Yeah, I just, I was like,
nigger this is stupid as fuck,
1184
01:03:02,387 --> 01:03:04,563
like you're breaking up with my
Mom? Like, alright peace out.
1185
01:03:04,606 --> 01:03:06,695
I was just pissed off
and I left.
1186
01:03:06,739 --> 01:03:09,263
So, if you wanna know,
you can ask him, but...
1187
01:03:09,307 --> 01:03:11,570
I just dipped out.
1188
01:03:13,877 --> 01:03:15,879
It took him a lot of work
to get me to like,
1189
01:03:15,922 --> 01:03:17,881
start talking up again,
because I would not talk to him,
1190
01:03:17,924 --> 01:03:20,709
I wouldn't answer his calls.
Um,
1191
01:03:20,753 --> 01:03:23,712
I was just disappointed.
1192
01:03:23,756 --> 01:03:25,845
Coming from my situation,
not having parents
1193
01:03:25,889 --> 01:03:27,673
and just like having a Mom
pass away and all that shit,
1194
01:03:27,716 --> 01:03:30,328
and just finally getting
a family and all that,
1195
01:03:30,371 --> 01:03:33,679
and then, that just not working
on it and all that shit,
1196
01:03:33,722 --> 01:03:35,681
I'm not saying it's my fault,
but it's just fucked up.
1197
01:03:35,724 --> 01:03:37,726
So, I mean, it was
just the whole thing
1198
01:03:37,770 --> 01:03:39,554
that was kinda fucked up for me.
1199
01:03:39,598 --> 01:03:43,471
But yeah, that's kinda
why I just do my thing,
1200
01:03:43,515 --> 01:03:46,344
'cause like, I dunno,
it's kinda fucked up still.
1201
01:03:46,387 --> 01:03:48,868
I'm still, it's all fucked up.
1202
01:03:48,912 --> 01:03:51,784
I ain't gonna say I ain't
got love for the man.
1203
01:03:51,828 --> 01:03:53,917
You know, he helped me get my,
beat this case.
1204
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:55,744
You know, we filed for the
right shit and all that, man.
1205
01:03:55,788 --> 01:03:57,659
We out here, doing shit
and all that, so,
1206
01:03:57,703 --> 01:04:00,140
so I definitely still have love
1207
01:04:00,184 --> 01:04:01,750
and I still fucks with that
nigger for that shit.
1208
01:04:01,794 --> 01:04:02,969
No, that was a lot,
you know what I'm saying,
1209
01:04:03,013 --> 01:04:04,710
it was a long process.
1210
01:04:04,753 --> 01:04:06,755
The fact that he did that,
you know, means he's like,
1211
01:04:06,799 --> 01:04:08,366
his heart is in the right
place and he want,
1212
01:04:08,409 --> 01:04:10,194
he wants to do good, but...
1213
01:04:13,414 --> 01:04:15,764
with the big picture,
1214
01:04:15,808 --> 01:04:17,897
we both standing on different
corners of the temple, so.
1215
01:04:20,334 --> 01:04:22,119
Don't mean we're enemies,
or nothin'.
1216
01:04:40,964 --> 01:04:43,923
Can someone call Josiah,
please? Dad?
1217
01:04:47,492 --> 01:04:49,537
Can you call? I can't call.
- Why?
1218
01:04:49,581 --> 01:04:51,365
- 'Cause I don't know.
1219
01:04:51,409 --> 01:04:53,367
- I don't think he's gonna
answer.
1220
01:04:53,411 --> 01:04:55,935
Dad, can you call Jos?
1221
01:04:55,979 --> 01:04:58,503
Procession in
starts at 10.
1222
01:04:58,546 --> 01:05:00,940
And it's five after nine now.
1223
01:05:02,463 --> 01:05:04,770
So, we're all here now
just waiting on you.
1224
01:05:06,293 --> 01:05:07,860
Okay, okay.
1225
01:05:08,469 --> 01:05:10,602
A bientôt. Okay, bye.
1226
01:05:23,484 --> 01:05:25,051
Why is my whole
family spread out?
1227
01:05:25,095 --> 01:05:28,054
Tevan's right there,
Mariah's over there,
1228
01:05:28,098 --> 01:05:30,056
Liette's over there. Who knows
where everybody's at, man?
1229
01:05:30,100 --> 01:05:32,667
- Get someone to come talk
to you.
1230
01:05:50,859 --> 01:05:53,862
- We're turning a page on some
of the dark chapters
1231
01:05:53,906 --> 01:05:55,038
in our people's history,
1232
01:05:57,910 --> 01:05:59,738
and we're coming together
here to celebrate
1233
01:05:59,781 --> 01:06:02,567
the opening of our new
1234
01:06:04,482 --> 01:06:06,397
Our people have been waiting
for this moment
1235
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:08,225
for a long, long time,
1236
01:06:09,748 --> 01:06:12,055
and it was the belief
of our Elders
1237
01:06:12,098 --> 01:06:14,231
that it was the missionaries
who intentionally destroyed
1238
01:06:14,274 --> 01:06:16,581
the last Big House
1239
01:06:16,624 --> 01:06:19,671
that stood here
in our community,
1240
01:06:19,714 --> 01:06:21,934
our territory.
1241
01:06:21,978 --> 01:06:24,023
The churches that were here
at the time.
1242
01:06:25,764 --> 01:06:28,288
So, how ironic is it
that we're here on a Sunday
1243
01:06:28,332 --> 01:06:30,247
celebrating this again.
1244
01:07:45,017 --> 01:07:46,714
- Okay.
1245
01:08:07,257 --> 01:08:09,128
- Why did you ask me
to do your hair?
1246
01:08:09,172 --> 01:08:10,956
- Especially living here,
in Bella Bella,
1247
01:08:10,999 --> 01:08:13,219
like now that I just moved here,
I'm like okay,
1248
01:08:13,263 --> 01:08:15,352
there's no hair product
stuff here.
1249
01:08:15,395 --> 01:08:17,919
I'm like, like literally
the only Black people
1250
01:08:17,963 --> 01:08:20,444
in Bella Bella.
1251
01:08:22,576 --> 01:08:25,013
So, then like, who taught
you to, to do hair?
1252
01:08:25,057 --> 01:08:27,190
- Honestly, YouTube.
1253
01:08:27,233 --> 01:08:29,061
- Yeah.
1254
01:08:29,105 --> 01:08:31,150
- YouTube, more than anything.
I'm not perfect at it.
1255
01:08:33,631 --> 01:08:35,589
My Mom did my hair
a lot.
1256
01:08:35,633 --> 01:08:38,418
Um, my Dad would a lot
of ponytails, too.
1257
01:08:38,462 --> 01:08:40,159
I guess growing up
1258
01:08:41,595 --> 01:08:44,032
we didn't really um,
like me,
1259
01:08:45,730 --> 01:08:48,385
I, I wasn't taught exactly like,
1260
01:08:48,428 --> 01:08:49,995
how to do like,
cornrows and things like that.
1261
01:08:51,692 --> 01:08:55,218
Um, but now I find that
I've been practicing
1262
01:08:55,261 --> 01:08:58,351
doing a few things,
so they're not super perfect,
1263
01:08:58,395 --> 01:09:00,658
but I've been, I've been
practicing because I'm like,
1264
01:09:00,701 --> 01:09:02,790
oh, when I have my own children,
1265
01:09:02,834 --> 01:09:05,315
I wanna try this,
and I would love to do that.
1266
01:09:05,358 --> 01:09:09,057
So, I kinda feel sometimes
like I've sorta missed out.
1267
01:09:09,101 --> 01:09:10,885
a little disappointed that
I'm like, oh, yeah,
1268
01:09:10,929 --> 01:09:12,365
I didn't get to learn to braid
hair, and all that,
1269
01:09:12,409 --> 01:09:14,280
at a young age,
1270
01:09:14,324 --> 01:09:17,196
or have that many people
teach me
1271
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:18,197
how to braid hair.
1272
01:09:20,025 --> 01:09:22,897
Um, but now I guess like,
it's better...
1273
01:09:22,941 --> 01:09:25,248
to do, late than never.
1274
01:09:25,291 --> 01:09:27,119
So, I'm learning,
little by little.
1275
01:09:27,163 --> 01:09:29,643
Um, I'm so happy
that I moved here,
1276
01:09:29,687 --> 01:09:32,255
but I'm also like, ooh,
I hope I don't like lose,
1277
01:09:32,298 --> 01:09:34,518
like, lose my Black-ness
a little bit.
1278
01:09:34,561 --> 01:09:36,737
- Yeah?
- You know,
1279
01:09:36,781 --> 01:09:38,217
like I'm loving like,
the culture that I'm learning
1280
01:09:38,261 --> 01:09:40,350
and um,
1281
01:09:43,004 --> 01:09:45,485
and I do, I do take a lot
of pride into,
1282
01:09:46,530 --> 01:09:49,141
into my heritage and um,
1283
01:09:49,185 --> 01:09:51,274
especially the Heiltsuk side.
1284
01:09:51,317 --> 01:09:53,450
It's amazing just to learn
a lot of,
1285
01:09:53,493 --> 01:09:55,843
a lot of things.
Like, especially this weekend,
1286
01:09:55,887 --> 01:09:57,454
like there's a lot of things
I didn't know.
1287
01:09:57,497 --> 01:10:00,283
Um, and it's kinda been,
1288
01:10:00,326 --> 01:10:02,285
but I feel like this weekend
also has kinda been
1289
01:10:02,328 --> 01:10:05,331
a bit of a emotional,
emotional rollercoaster;
1290
01:10:05,375 --> 01:10:06,767
a bit of a struggle, too,
1291
01:10:06,811 --> 01:10:08,595
like just being there
for Josiah.
1292
01:10:08,639 --> 01:10:10,423
Um,
1293
01:10:10,467 --> 01:10:13,992
and also actually, even just
being there for my family.
1294
01:10:15,298 --> 01:10:17,909
And just knowing like,
1295
01:10:17,952 --> 01:10:19,954
the hardship that we actually
did face, and the stress,
1296
01:10:19,998 --> 01:10:22,130
and the negativity,
and all that.
1297
01:10:22,174 --> 01:10:24,176
I think my Grandpa
would be really proud,
1298
01:10:24,220 --> 01:10:27,701
how my Dad really, really
fought for, for his family.
1299
01:10:30,182 --> 01:10:33,011
And to make sure that our
culture is not disrespected,
1300
01:10:35,143 --> 01:10:37,668
um, and that we really
uplift those that are,
1301
01:10:37,711 --> 01:10:39,887
that are our own.
1302
01:10:39,931 --> 01:10:43,108
- I noticed that Josiah
can be a little mean...
1303
01:10:43,151 --> 01:10:45,153
- Mm-hmm.
- towards you.
1304
01:10:45,197 --> 01:10:47,547
- I don't know, I think
it's 'cause since I've,
1305
01:10:49,419 --> 01:10:50,942
I think it's since, probably
since I've been dating girls,
1306
01:10:50,985 --> 01:10:53,292
probably is where he's--
1307
01:10:53,336 --> 01:10:55,555
Well, he kind of did the same
with my Dad, like,
1308
01:10:55,599 --> 01:10:57,731
it took him a long time
when my Dad came out,
1309
01:10:57,775 --> 01:11:00,168
and everything. It was like,
super hard on him
1310
01:11:00,212 --> 01:11:03,128
and it took a long time
to get where he is today,
1311
01:11:03,171 --> 01:11:06,218
where he can kinda be part
of like,
1312
01:11:06,262 --> 01:11:08,176
when we have family dinners
and stuff.
1313
01:11:08,220 --> 01:11:11,789
But like, he was really angry
for a while.
1314
01:11:11,832 --> 01:11:14,792
So, I'm assuming that's
probably the same thing.
1315
01:11:14,835 --> 01:11:17,490
They've really embraced,
1316
01:11:17,534 --> 01:11:20,319
you know, my identity
and everything, and they,
1317
01:11:20,363 --> 01:11:22,974
they just,
1318
01:11:23,017 --> 01:11:24,845
yeah, they didn't make it
a big deal.
1319
01:11:26,151 --> 01:11:29,023
So, yeah, that's,
that's kinda how I like it.
1320
01:11:29,067 --> 01:11:30,982
For sure.
1321
01:11:38,206 --> 01:11:39,556
- Thank you.
1322
01:11:44,038 --> 01:11:45,866
I was more sad
than devastated,
1323
01:11:45,910 --> 01:11:48,086
when Mom and Dad, they both
sat us down and said
1324
01:11:48,129 --> 01:11:50,958
that they were, they were gonna
separate and then,
1325
01:11:51,002 --> 01:11:53,613
they were getting a divorce,
and that they couldn't,
1326
01:11:53,657 --> 01:11:55,441
they couldn't be together
anymore, and everything.
1327
01:11:58,314 --> 01:12:00,011
- No, we have to take one
at a time, you guys.
1328
01:12:00,054 --> 01:12:01,795
- Aha!
- Okay. Ready?
1329
01:12:01,839 --> 01:12:03,797
We need Josiah here, too.
1330
01:12:03,841 --> 01:12:05,669
Tim's ears take up
half the thing.
1331
01:12:05,712 --> 01:12:08,236
-
- Okay, let's go.
1332
01:12:21,424 --> 01:12:23,164
- This is the crazy thing
1333
01:12:23,208 --> 01:12:25,297
when I don't get to come home
that often,
1334
01:12:25,341 --> 01:12:28,039
and like even just remembering
landmarks.
1335
01:12:29,519 --> 01:12:32,870
Like, when I know that,
there's an opening in the trees,
1336
01:12:32,913 --> 01:12:35,307
you can sort of see this little
1337
01:12:35,351 --> 01:12:37,396
pathway that goes in.
1338
01:12:40,094 --> 01:12:42,358
All those years,
and everything, and having to,
1339
01:12:42,401 --> 01:12:45,056
having to pluck the courage
to, to tell his family.
1340
01:12:47,406 --> 01:12:48,625
Like, I know that was like,
super difficult for him,
1341
01:12:48,668 --> 01:12:50,496
for sure.
1342
01:12:54,282 --> 01:12:57,024
That was more sad
than you know, like,
1343
01:12:57,068 --> 01:12:59,810
my Dad saying that he was gay.
1344
01:13:07,644 --> 01:13:09,646
I knew he was still my father
and everything,
1345
01:13:09,689 --> 01:13:12,605
and that my love for,
for him never changed.
1346
01:13:16,566 --> 01:13:18,655
- 1 and 46.
- Okay.
1347
01:13:18,698 --> 01:13:20,308
Wait. So if we see the number -
what happens?
1348
01:13:20,352 --> 01:13:21,832
- We're good.
1349
01:13:21,875 --> 01:13:23,442
- And if we don't see
the same number?
1350
01:13:33,147 --> 01:13:34,714
- I'm still trying to wrap
my head around
1351
01:13:34,758 --> 01:13:37,500
why you don't wanna be,
1352
01:13:37,543 --> 01:13:39,545
why you didn't wanna go with
the, with the Grave Island,
1353
01:13:39,589 --> 01:13:41,982
just 'cause I know how you
felt about your Grandpa.
1354
01:13:42,026 --> 01:13:43,897
and how close you two were.
- Mm-hmm.
1355
01:13:43,941 --> 01:13:47,335
- Yeah.
- I dunno.
1356
01:13:47,379 --> 01:13:50,338
I have no, I don't really
have a reason for it
1357
01:13:50,382 --> 01:13:52,210
other than I didn't wanna go.
1358
01:13:54,691 --> 01:13:57,433
That's mainly it.
1359
01:13:57,476 --> 01:13:59,304
- Are you gonna try to go
by yourself, or what?
1360
01:13:59,347 --> 01:14:00,871
- I dunno, we'll see.
1361
01:14:03,569 --> 01:14:05,441
There's definitely a reason
to but not with them.
1362
01:14:05,484 --> 01:14:07,138
I dunno.
1363
01:14:09,619 --> 01:14:12,099
My Grandpa and I used
to fuck around all the time.
1364
01:14:12,143 --> 01:14:14,406
We would, we were always
just joking,
1365
01:14:14,450 --> 01:14:16,582
and always getting ourselves
into some kinda trouble.
1366
01:14:18,628 --> 01:14:21,108
What, no matter what sorta
stuff it was,
1367
01:14:21,152 --> 01:14:22,675
it was always something.
1368
01:14:22,719 --> 01:14:25,330
But my uh, I dunno,
1369
01:14:27,593 --> 01:14:30,335
I honour him like, every day.
I pray to this guy.
1370
01:14:30,378 --> 01:14:33,556
I dunno. I have multiple
pictures in my,
1371
01:14:33,599 --> 01:14:37,342
just stuff of his in my room
in my house, so I dunno,
1372
01:14:37,385 --> 01:14:40,606
I don't really have, yeah.
1373
01:14:40,650 --> 01:14:43,348
And like, I don't
like graveyards, yo.
1374
01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:58,450
Is it good, Papa?
- Yep, really good.
1375
01:15:00,147 --> 01:15:02,193
Yeah. We're doing
things together.
1376
01:15:02,236 --> 01:15:04,935
Ohhh.
That's very nice.
1377
01:15:12,420 --> 01:15:15,598
Josiah, ou sommes-nous,
maintenant?
1378
01:15:15,641 --> 01:15:18,252
- A Bella Bella!
1379
01:15:18,296 --> 01:15:20,472
What about Papa,
any famous last words?
1380
01:15:20,516 --> 01:15:23,214
- Yes, I'd like to say
that I'm very happy
1381
01:15:23,257 --> 01:15:25,477
that my Grandkids are here,
1382
01:15:25,521 --> 01:15:28,088
and Christmas and the New Year.
1383
01:15:30,308 --> 01:15:32,484
- I'm just happy to be here
with our family
1384
01:15:32,528 --> 01:15:36,444
and I'm looking forward to all
that God has in store for us
1385
01:15:36,488 --> 01:15:38,577
in the next,
in the year 2000 and beyond.
1386
01:15:40,013 --> 01:15:42,755
Happy New Year!
1387
01:15:42,799 --> 01:15:44,931
Cheers! Cheers!
1388
01:15:44,975 --> 01:15:47,586
- Cheers! Cheers!
- Cheers!
1389
01:15:54,811 --> 01:15:57,378
- I hadn't been to see my Dad's
grave for quite a while,
1390
01:15:57,422 --> 01:15:59,598
so that was really meaningful.
1391
01:15:59,642 --> 01:16:02,427
And the fact that I had
my four kids with me, um,
1392
01:16:03,907 --> 01:16:06,083
that is uh, a rare event.
1393
01:16:07,650 --> 01:16:10,348
I was telling my kids
about my Dad's sense of humour,
1394
01:16:11,567 --> 01:16:13,525
and he always used to say
this phrase
1395
01:16:13,569 --> 01:16:15,832
about in the future,
1396
01:16:15,875 --> 01:16:18,443
he goes, "When I'm in the
graveyard pushing up daisies..."
1397
01:16:18,486 --> 01:16:20,401
and I'm like, I said,
1398
01:16:20,445 --> 01:16:22,055
we need to bring some
daisies over here
1399
01:16:22,099 --> 01:16:24,449
and plant them around his grave.
1400
01:16:24,492 --> 01:16:27,844
But they actually take over,
so we might not do that,
1401
01:16:27,887 --> 01:16:30,324
But...
1402
01:16:30,368 --> 01:16:32,065
kinda lightened the mood
a little bit
1403
01:16:32,109 --> 01:16:34,067
and talked about his,
his humour
1404
01:16:34,111 --> 01:16:36,504
about when he would talk
about when he was gone.
1405
01:16:36,548 --> 01:16:38,637
So, and of course,
1406
01:16:38,681 --> 01:16:41,814
the kids knew him very well
and remembered his humour,
1407
01:16:41,858 --> 01:16:44,295
so we got just to share
some memories, yeah.
1408
01:16:45,775 --> 01:16:48,081
- Um, Jos was supposed to come.
1409
01:16:48,125 --> 01:16:49,953
- Um, he just,
he decided not to.
1410
01:16:51,694 --> 01:16:54,479
So, you know, we,
we let him process things
1411
01:16:54,522 --> 01:16:56,655
how he processes them.
1412
01:16:56,699 --> 01:16:59,658
He's, he tries to be such
a tough guy.
1413
01:17:01,921 --> 01:17:03,880
And he, and in a way,
in a lot of ways, he is.
1414
01:17:03,923 --> 01:17:05,708
He's been through a lot in,
in his life.
1415
01:17:05,751 --> 01:17:09,407
But um, he's also a very
sensitive human being,
1416
01:17:09,450 --> 01:17:11,670
and so, sometimes
it's just too much.
1417
01:17:13,106 --> 01:17:15,065
And he and my Dad
were particularly close.
1418
01:17:15,108 --> 01:17:17,110
So, for him to go
1419
01:17:19,199 --> 01:17:21,114
and sort of relive that,
1420
01:17:22,725 --> 01:17:25,771
and have all of those emotions
brought up again,
1421
01:17:25,815 --> 01:17:28,121
I guess he just wasn't
in the space to do it.
1422
01:17:28,165 --> 01:17:30,558
So, that, that's okay.
1423
01:17:30,602 --> 01:17:32,909
Um, he'll have other
opportunities, so.
1424
01:17:32,952 --> 01:17:34,693
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
1425
01:17:48,185 --> 01:17:50,317
The whole purpose
of this washing ceremony
1426
01:17:50,361 --> 01:17:53,538
is to mark a moment in time,
1427
01:17:53,581 --> 01:17:55,496
and what we are doing
as your family
1428
01:17:55,540 --> 01:17:58,543
and as your community
is standing um,
1429
01:17:58,586 --> 01:18:00,371
with you.
- Mm-hmm.
1430
01:18:00,414 --> 01:18:02,373
- Is to make a statement
1431
01:18:02,416 --> 01:18:04,244
so that you have this moment
in time
1432
01:18:04,288 --> 01:18:06,812
that you can think back to,
1433
01:18:06,856 --> 01:18:09,554
and you will remember that
from that moment forward,
1434
01:18:09,597 --> 01:18:11,817
you don't have to hold on
to any of that stuff.
1435
01:18:11,861 --> 01:18:14,124
- Mm-hmm.
- Any of it.
- Okay.
1436
01:18:15,995 --> 01:18:17,780
- Just keep in mind,
a lot of the reasons
1437
01:18:17,823 --> 01:18:20,957
why people are so good to us
is because of your Papa.
1438
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:23,350
- Mm-hmm.
1439
01:18:23,394 --> 01:18:26,527
- And how much they really
esteemed him
1440
01:18:28,051 --> 01:18:29,748
and they love that they had
for your Papa,
1441
01:18:32,011 --> 01:18:34,492
they're now, that's what they
hold for you, now.
1442
01:18:35,841 --> 01:18:37,974
So, don't forget.
- Yep.
1443
01:18:38,017 --> 01:18:39,758
- Okay?
- Mm-hmm.
1444
01:18:39,802 --> 01:18:41,760
- So, this is how important
it is.
1445
01:18:41,804 --> 01:18:44,981
And why this washing ceremony
means so much to me,
1446
01:18:45,024 --> 01:18:46,765
that they're gonna do this
for you.
1447
01:18:46,809 --> 01:18:48,636
- Okay.
- Okay?
1448
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:52,684
So... do you have any,
do you have any questions?
1449
01:18:52,728 --> 01:18:54,817
- I ain't, I ain't talking
though, that's it.
1450
01:18:54,860 --> 01:18:56,427
- No, you don't have to.
1451
01:18:56,470 --> 01:18:58,255
- That's it.
That's, I'm out of here.
1452
01:19:11,703 --> 01:19:13,400
- I'm just tired.
1453
01:19:13,444 --> 01:19:15,620
I don't even wanna be here
anymore, like this is--
1454
01:19:34,595 --> 01:19:36,641
Today, we want
to thank the Hemas
1455
01:19:36,684 --> 01:19:38,948
and the Tribal Council,
1456
01:19:38,991 --> 01:19:41,211
for giving us the opportunity
to uplift Josiah today
1457
01:19:41,254 --> 01:19:43,343
in our Great House.
1458
01:19:43,387 --> 01:19:46,782
Josiah is of Haitian ancestry
by birth
1459
01:19:46,825 --> 01:19:49,741
and was adopted by my brother,
Don, and his wife, Liette,
1460
01:19:49,785 --> 01:19:51,308
when he was months old,
1461
01:19:51,351 --> 01:19:53,310
when they were living in Haiti.
1462
01:19:53,353 --> 01:19:55,834
In 2015,
Josiah received a letter
1463
01:19:57,314 --> 01:19:59,272
that banned him
from participating
1464
01:19:59,316 --> 01:20:01,666
in the tournament
to a blood quantum rule.
1465
01:20:01,709 --> 01:20:05,496
This was devastating to Josiah,
and in turn,
1466
01:20:05,539 --> 01:20:07,759
to our family
and our Nation as a whole.
1467
01:20:09,413 --> 01:20:11,850
Blood quantum was a policy
enacted by the government
1468
01:20:11,894 --> 01:20:14,461
to eventually abolish us
as Indigenous people.
1469
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:17,595
So, as we began to figure out
1470
01:20:17,638 --> 01:20:19,684
how we could challenge
this further,
1471
01:20:19,727 --> 01:20:22,556
we decided that this
was about a human right.
1472
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:24,732
This was about
our Heiltsuk right,
1473
01:20:24,776 --> 01:20:26,822
our Indigenous rights
as people.
1474
01:20:26,865 --> 01:20:29,563
In the end, we ended up
settling the matter;
1475
01:20:29,607 --> 01:20:32,088
that rule was taken away,
1476
01:20:32,131 --> 01:20:34,568
it no longer exists within
the All Native committee.
1477
01:20:42,750 --> 01:20:45,536
Your story has helped
others who have been adopted
1478
01:20:45,579 --> 01:20:47,625
and to have brought
into their place,
1479
01:20:47,668 --> 01:20:50,193
to be reaffirmed that
you are one of ours.
1480
01:20:50,236 --> 01:20:52,717
That's never been
a question for us,
1481
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:54,893
and we want you
to recognize that today
1482
01:20:54,937 --> 01:20:56,068
and really sink that.
1483
01:20:57,504 --> 01:20:59,202
- My Son was born
1484
01:20:59,245 --> 01:21:01,117
in a rural hospital in Haiti
1485
01:21:04,685 --> 01:21:07,427
and he was orphaned
at age four days.
1486
01:21:11,431 --> 01:21:12,955
When he was two weeks old,
1487
01:21:12,998 --> 01:21:16,219
I got him discharged
into the care of a lady,
1488
01:21:16,262 --> 01:21:18,569
an American lady
that was living there.
1489
01:21:18,612 --> 01:21:20,919
Never thinking
1490
01:21:20,963 --> 01:21:22,921
that I was gonna have anything
more to do with it.
1491
01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:26,794
And when Josiah
was two months old,
1492
01:21:28,187 --> 01:21:31,364
my Mother and Father came
from home
1493
01:21:31,408 --> 01:21:33,149
to visit us down there.
1494
01:21:33,192 --> 01:21:35,194
And we have a photo
1495
01:21:36,761 --> 01:21:38,850
of my father holding Josiah
1496
01:21:38,894 --> 01:21:41,548
when he was a two-month-old
infant,
1497
01:21:41,592 --> 01:21:43,202
and he didn't know at that time
1498
01:21:43,246 --> 01:21:45,596
that this was his future
Grandson
1499
01:21:46,684 --> 01:21:48,991
until a few months later,
1500
01:21:49,034 --> 01:21:50,818
we told him
1501
01:21:50,862 --> 01:21:53,212
that we were gonna move ahead
with an adoption
1502
01:21:56,172 --> 01:21:58,565
of that little baby.
1503
01:21:59,827 --> 01:22:02,395
And he said,
1504
01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:04,484
"I just knew
1505
01:22:04,528 --> 01:22:06,051
that was my Grandson
that I was holding,"
1506
01:22:09,228 --> 01:22:12,840
and it seems like
from that moment onwards,
1507
01:22:12,884 --> 01:22:15,495
the two of them had such a bond.
1508
01:22:17,933 --> 01:22:21,066
And for me,
this whole story
1509
01:22:21,110 --> 01:22:22,285
of what he has been through,
1510
01:22:24,852 --> 01:22:28,900
it just shines a light on
our right as Heiltsuk
1511
01:22:28,944 --> 01:22:32,034
to exercise our sovereignty
1512
01:22:32,077 --> 01:22:34,036
to decide who is one of us.
1513
01:22:34,079 --> 01:22:37,517
Just like any nation
has the right to do that,
1514
01:22:37,561 --> 01:22:39,563
we have the right to do that.
1515
01:23:05,284 --> 01:23:07,330
- Thank you.
1516
01:23:07,373 --> 01:23:09,419
See what they're doing for you?
1517
01:24:48,605 --> 01:24:50,302
Healing is um,
1518
01:24:50,346 --> 01:24:53,262
a necessary process
of any kind of damage
1519
01:24:53,305 --> 01:24:55,438
done to anybody.
1520
01:24:56,830 --> 01:24:58,745
You just can't rush it.
1521
01:24:58,789 --> 01:25:00,356
Everybody heals
at a different pace.
1522
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:06,797
My family, I guess they
would've thought that
1523
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:09,060
the washing ceremony
1524
01:25:09,104 --> 01:25:11,845
would help with trauma
and everything,
1525
01:25:11,889 --> 01:25:14,370
and it was really nice,
1526
01:25:14,413 --> 01:25:17,764
and it was really good,
and I appreciate it a lot.
1527
01:25:21,116 --> 01:25:23,161
When that happened,
we just took another turn.
1528
01:25:25,294 --> 01:25:27,339
He was like, "I got you."
1529
01:25:28,645 --> 01:25:30,473
If it wasn't for him,
1530
01:25:30,516 --> 01:25:31,735
I probably wouldn't be here
right now, honestly.
1531
01:25:36,696 --> 01:25:38,742
You know, I definitely just,
I appreciate him for that.
1532
01:25:52,103 --> 01:25:53,583
Even though, yeah,
okay, I was mad,
1533
01:25:53,626 --> 01:25:54,627
or like yeah, we didn't,
we hadn't talked,
1534
01:25:54,671 --> 01:25:57,326
and all that kind of stuff,
1535
01:25:57,369 --> 01:26:00,807
like, we still on good terms.
Like, I still got love.
1536
01:26:00,851 --> 01:26:04,898
It's like, it's just life tings,
I guess.
1537
01:26:11,470 --> 01:26:13,255
It's gonna take time.
Like, it's not something
1538
01:26:13,298 --> 01:26:16,475
that I'm gonna forget about
and just move on about
1539
01:26:16,519 --> 01:26:19,130
within the next couple days,
or whatever.
1540
01:26:19,174 --> 01:26:21,437
I'm gonna still think
about this for a long time.
1541
01:26:29,271 --> 01:26:31,316
Whatever it is, you just gotta
let that person heal
1542
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:32,796
at their pace
and just let them do them.
1543
01:27:43,780 --> 01:27:46,130
Though Josiah's story is unique,
it represents
1544
01:27:46,173 --> 01:27:47,871
the many layers
to our identities
1545
01:27:47,914 --> 01:27:49,960
and where we belong
in the world.
1546
01:27:50,003 --> 01:27:51,527
Joining me now
to talk about "One of Ours"
1547
01:27:51,570 --> 01:27:53,093
are former
Canadian basketball player
1548
01:27:53,137 --> 01:27:56,183
and First Nation councilman
Michael Linklater
1549
01:27:56,227 --> 01:27:58,229
and US Representative
Sharice Davids.
1550
01:27:58,273 --> 01:28:01,014
Hi, yeah, thanks for having me.
I'm so happy to be here.
1551
01:28:01,058 --> 01:28:03,147
What were both of your thoughts
and/or takeaways
1552
01:28:03,190 --> 01:28:04,627
upon watching the film?
1553
01:28:04,670 --> 01:28:06,237
I appreciated
that we had to
1554
01:28:06,281 --> 01:28:08,587
not just explore
ideas of identity
1555
01:28:08,631 --> 01:28:10,415
but also explore
1556
01:28:10,459 --> 01:28:13,026
the concept
of healing from trauma.
1557
01:28:13,070 --> 01:28:15,202
I was very, very,
uh, touched
1558
01:28:15,246 --> 01:28:17,857
by the heavy topics
that were brought up,
1559
01:28:17,901 --> 01:28:21,426
but also the beauty
in things like ceremony
1560
01:28:21,470 --> 01:28:24,821
and communities coming together
to support each other.
1561
01:28:24,864 --> 01:28:26,953
Yes,
coping and healing.
1562
01:28:26,997 --> 01:28:28,607
Uh, Michael,
what were your thoughts?
1563
01:28:28,651 --> 01:28:31,001
I really
felt for Josiah,
1564
01:28:31,044 --> 01:28:33,003
his journey,
the struggles,
1565
01:28:33,046 --> 01:28:35,092
the adversity
that he had to face.
1566
01:28:35,135 --> 01:28:36,789
You can really
empathize with him
1567
01:28:36,833 --> 01:28:39,183
and where he's coming from
and what he's gone through,
1568
01:28:39,226 --> 01:28:41,185
but I think
one of the most important things
1569
01:28:41,228 --> 01:28:44,623
that I would like
to kind of shine some light on
1570
01:28:44,667 --> 01:28:46,277
is the fact that,
you know,
1571
01:28:46,321 --> 01:28:48,671
they're indigenous
to a different place.
1572
01:28:48,714 --> 01:28:51,761
Let's just take, you know,
a non-indigenous family
1573
01:28:51,804 --> 01:28:53,980
adopting somebody
who is indigenous.
1574
01:28:54,024 --> 01:28:56,200
I think
it's really important
1575
01:28:56,243 --> 01:28:59,421
that you have your --
your family structure
1576
01:28:59,464 --> 01:29:01,423
and the culture
of your family,
1577
01:29:01,466 --> 01:29:05,688
but it's really important
to honor where you come from.
1578
01:29:05,731 --> 01:29:08,865
Josiah was not confused
about who he was
1579
01:29:08,908 --> 01:29:12,434
and where his place was
within the Heiltsuk community
1580
01:29:12,477 --> 01:29:14,174
until he was told
he was different,
1581
01:29:14,218 --> 01:29:16,699
and how does
our view of ourselves change
1582
01:29:16,742 --> 01:29:17,961
with outside influence?
1583
01:29:18,004 --> 01:29:19,310
A-And should it?
1584
01:29:19,354 --> 01:29:20,964
I have thought
a lot about
1585
01:29:21,007 --> 01:29:23,923
what it means
to be native.
1586
01:29:23,967 --> 01:29:26,186
You know,
I am -- I am Ho-Chunk,
1587
01:29:26,230 --> 01:29:29,233
which is
a tribe in Wisconsin.
1588
01:29:29,276 --> 01:29:31,235
The thing
that struck me the most
1589
01:29:31,278 --> 01:29:35,152
was it wasn't just Josiah
that -- that felt really solid
1590
01:29:35,195 --> 01:29:39,112
in his, uh, place in --
in his community.
1591
01:29:39,156 --> 01:29:42,028
It was the leaders
of his community.
1592
01:29:42,072 --> 01:29:45,292
It was the other tribal,
uh, members.
1593
01:29:45,336 --> 01:29:48,339
It was the folks
on the basketball team.
1594
01:29:48,383 --> 01:29:50,950
Even when it comes to,
um, you know,
1595
01:29:50,994 --> 01:29:52,996
other, like,
external factors
1596
01:29:53,039 --> 01:29:54,737
or making reference to,
1597
01:29:54,780 --> 01:29:56,347
let's just say,
basketball teams,
1598
01:29:56,391 --> 01:29:58,697
you decide who becomes
a part of your team,
1599
01:29:58,741 --> 01:30:00,177
and that's your team.
1600
01:30:00,220 --> 01:30:02,658
Uh, and it's the same thing
for nations.
1601
01:30:02,701 --> 01:30:05,965
Nations who --
who have that sovereignty
1602
01:30:06,009 --> 01:30:08,185
over themselves
as First Peoples,
1603
01:30:08,228 --> 01:30:09,665
they're the ones
that decide that.
1604
01:30:09,708 --> 01:30:11,275
The blood quantum --
1605
01:30:11,318 --> 01:30:12,929
you know,
that's a colonial construct.
1606
01:30:12,972 --> 01:30:16,715
It was a construct
designed to eradicate us
1607
01:30:16,759 --> 01:30:19,718
in hopes that
we would eventually fall off,
1608
01:30:19,762 --> 01:30:22,329
where there is
no blood quantum
1609
01:30:22,373 --> 01:30:25,332
for us
to identify as who we are.
1610
01:30:25,376 --> 01:30:27,552
My great-great-grandmother
was Choctaw,
1611
01:30:27,596 --> 01:30:30,163
and so --
my great-great-grandmother Ari.
1612
01:30:30,207 --> 01:30:31,730
I remember
always being discouraged
1613
01:30:31,774 --> 01:30:33,515
from following up
on that
1614
01:30:33,558 --> 01:30:36,082
because, like, "Well,
you can't go to a reservation
1615
01:30:36,126 --> 01:30:38,345
because you have to prove
this amount of, you know,
1616
01:30:38,389 --> 01:30:41,087
'blood,'" so to speak,
which -- which comes up a lot,
1617
01:30:41,131 --> 01:30:44,482
which I didn't even recognize
as a huge, you know,
1618
01:30:44,526 --> 01:30:47,920
colonialist kind of,
like, stigma, you know?
1619
01:30:47,964 --> 01:30:51,010
When you look at different
religions or different beliefs,
1620
01:30:51,054 --> 01:30:53,491
you don't necessarily
have to, like,
1621
01:30:53,535 --> 01:30:57,582
come from where that religion
or belief was founded
1622
01:30:57,626 --> 01:31:00,803
in order to practice
that way of life.
1623
01:31:00,846 --> 01:31:03,022
Even Josiah's white siblings
struggle with identity
1624
01:31:03,066 --> 01:31:05,329
because they don't
"look" indigenous.
1625
01:31:05,372 --> 01:31:07,723
Is too much importance
placed on appearance
1626
01:31:07,766 --> 01:31:11,727
as a part of identity
and belonging in our society?
1627
01:31:11,770 --> 01:31:15,513
There are a lot of,
uh, constructs around
1628
01:31:15,557 --> 01:31:19,778
who should be considered
native or indigenous
1629
01:31:19,822 --> 01:31:22,520
here in North America,
1630
01:31:22,564 --> 01:31:24,304
and this story
is a great example
1631
01:31:24,348 --> 01:31:27,612
of having to deal with
issues of identity.
1632
01:31:27,656 --> 01:31:31,834
What is the modern Native
experience in North America?
1633
01:31:31,877 --> 01:31:33,531
We just don't get to see that
that often.
1634
01:31:33,575 --> 01:31:34,967
Truly, truly.
1635
01:31:35,011 --> 01:31:36,839
What are your thoughts
on representation
1636
01:31:36,882 --> 01:31:39,537
of indigenous people in media,
as well as people like Josiah,
1637
01:31:39,581 --> 01:31:42,540
whose identities
are less identifiable?
1638
01:31:42,584 --> 01:31:48,154
The only time you see
indigenous people in the media,
1639
01:31:48,198 --> 01:31:53,029
majority of the time,
it's for negative things.
1640
01:31:53,072 --> 01:31:55,205
You rarely see
the positive things,
1641
01:31:55,248 --> 01:31:57,250
and there are so many
wonderful things
1642
01:31:57,294 --> 01:31:58,817
that indigenous people do.
1643
01:31:58,861 --> 01:32:00,602
It speaks
to the misrepresentation
1644
01:32:00,645 --> 01:32:03,996
and the under-representation
of minorities.
1645
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:06,085
I do think
that we're in a time
1646
01:32:06,129 --> 01:32:11,569
of racial reckoning and also
a historical acknowledgement
1647
01:32:11,613 --> 01:32:14,790
of how our country
got to the place
1648
01:32:14,833 --> 01:32:16,618
that we are in now.
1649
01:32:16,661 --> 01:32:18,402
The film shines a spotlight
1650
01:32:18,445 --> 01:32:21,231
on the themes of identity
and belonging.
1651
01:32:21,274 --> 01:32:24,060
How do you personally
define identity?
1652
01:32:24,103 --> 01:32:27,759
It's a lifetime journey
full of twists and turns
1653
01:32:27,803 --> 01:32:31,676
and one that is shaped
by your -- your circumstances.
1654
01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:35,419
I have certainly, um,
become more solid
1655
01:32:35,462 --> 01:32:39,205
in -- in who I am
in a number of different ways
1656
01:32:39,249 --> 01:32:42,208
since, uh,
since getting into Congress.
1657
01:32:42,252 --> 01:32:43,601
I have learned a lot.
1658
01:32:43,645 --> 01:32:45,647
I have seen
a lot of things
1659
01:32:45,690 --> 01:32:48,693
that I never would've seen
if I weren't in this position.
1660
01:32:48,737 --> 01:32:51,870
You know, there's constant
changes within your identity,
1661
01:32:51,914 --> 01:32:53,611
and as you grow,
1662
01:32:53,655 --> 01:32:55,787
and I think even
looking at Josiah's father,
1663
01:32:55,831 --> 01:32:58,094
you know,
he didn't identify
1664
01:32:58,137 --> 01:33:00,705
or even really recognize
he was gay
1665
01:33:00,749 --> 01:33:02,620
'til a long time
throughout his life.
1666
01:33:02,664 --> 01:33:05,362
I think that identity
is constantly searching
1667
01:33:05,405 --> 01:33:07,146
in where you belong
and where you fit
1668
01:33:07,190 --> 01:33:09,148
or where you feel
most comfortable
1669
01:33:09,192 --> 01:33:12,325
is where you'll --
you'll identify.
1670
01:33:12,369 --> 01:33:15,459
Michael, Representative Davids,
thanks for digging into the --
1671
01:33:15,502 --> 01:33:17,417
the intersectionalities
of identity.
1672
01:33:17,461 --> 01:33:19,942
It's been a pleasure
having you both.
1673
01:33:19,985 --> 01:33:21,813
Thank you so much
for having me today.
1674
01:33:21,857 --> 01:33:23,510
Thanks so much
for inviting me to this.
1675
01:33:23,554 --> 01:33:25,034
This was such
a great conversation.
1676
01:33:25,077 --> 01:33:27,079
Films like "One of Ours,"
1677
01:33:27,123 --> 01:33:29,952
which force us to challenge
the way we perceive each other,
1678
01:33:29,995 --> 01:33:33,042
are the exact kind of stories
we need to see more of.
1679
01:33:33,085 --> 01:33:34,870
Thanks so much for watching
"Can We Talk About This?"
1680
01:33:34,913 --> 01:33:36,915
Join me next time
for another compelling film
1681
01:33:36,959 --> 01:33:38,177
and riveting convo.
1682
01:33:38,221 --> 01:33:40,310
I'm Jordan Carlos.
Goodbye for now.