1 00:02:11,256 --> 00:02:13,850 - Just one box? - It's for my office. It's fragile. 2 00:02:14,009 --> 00:02:16,103 Sissy. 3 00:02:16,887 --> 00:02:20,016 Hey, dude, headphones. 4 00:02:20,182 --> 00:02:22,276 You're gonna go deaf! 5 00:02:55,759 --> 00:02:58,433 An autograph? 6 00:02:58,595 --> 00:03:01,314 - I just thought that... - Are you kidding me? 7 00:03:09,272 --> 00:03:11,366 Méfam'? 8 00:03:13,568 --> 00:03:15,616 - Sheriff. - Your husband around? 9 00:03:16,238 --> 00:03:18,332 Ashley? 10 00:03:19,658 --> 00:03:21,285 Ashley? 11 00:03:21,451 --> 00:03:23,704 Honey. 12 00:03:23,870 --> 00:03:25,497 Sweetheart. 13 00:03:25,664 --> 00:03:28,338 - What are you doing? - Painting. 14 00:03:28,500 --> 00:03:31,003 Yeah. I know. I think your mom wants your help unpacking. 15 00:03:31,795 --> 00:03:33,297 I know. 16 00:03:33,505 --> 00:03:35,849 So come outside. You can finish your painting later. 17 00:03:36,007 --> 00:03:38,886 I didn't wanna move here. I shouldn't have to carry boxes. 18 00:03:39,052 --> 00:03:43,228 We had to move here and we all have to help carry boxes. 19 00:03:43,390 --> 00:03:46,769 - You wanted to move here. - No, I had to move here. 20 00:03:46,935 --> 00:03:49,233 The new story I'm writing is here. 21 00:03:49,396 --> 00:03:51,524 Why can't you just keep writing in the old house? 22 00:03:51,690 --> 00:03:55,365 'Cause I was gonna have to write college textbooks to pay for that old house. 23 00:03:55,527 --> 00:03:58,121 - And I can't do that. - Why not? 24 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,625 - 'Cause I just can't. - But I miss my school. 25 00:04:01,783 --> 00:04:05,003 Well, you know what? The school here is supposed to be pretty great. 26 00:04:05,162 --> 00:04:07,130 But I want my old one. 27 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:13,420 I know. How about this. all right'? I'll tell you what. 28 00:04:14,629 --> 00:04:17,132 If we don't like it here, once I sell my book, we'll move back. 29 00:04:17,299 --> 00:04:19,802 But only if we don't like it here. 30 00:04:19,968 --> 00:04:22,016 - Really? - Really. 31 00:04:22,179 --> 00:04:23,271 You promise? 32 00:04:23,430 --> 00:04:26,400 I promise. But you have to promise to try to like it here. 33 00:04:26,558 --> 00:04:28,481 - I promise. - You do? Now. my little artist. 34 00:04:28,643 --> 00:04:31,442 - What's the number one rule? - Paint only goes in the bedroom. 35 00:04:31,605 --> 00:04:33,733 - Where doesn't it go'? - Anywhere else in the house. 36 00:04:33,940 --> 00:04:36,819 Right. OK, now, come with me. Move some boxes. 37 00:04:40,071 --> 00:04:41,948 Sheriff's here. 38 00:04:42,115 --> 00:04:45,085 - Already? - Play nice this time. 39 00:04:45,243 --> 00:04:46,745 - I'm always nice. - I'm not kidding. 40 00:04:46,912 --> 00:04:50,132 I'm tired of driving five miles under the speed limit to get ticketed anyway. 41 00:04:50,290 --> 00:04:52,634 Be nice. 42 00:04:54,211 --> 00:04:57,055 Afternoon. ls there a problem? 43 00:04:57,214 --> 00:04:59,262 No, sir. Just a friendly visit. 44 00:04:59,424 --> 00:05:01,347 I appreciate that. Ellison Oswalt. 45 00:05:01,510 --> 00:05:04,138 I know who you are. 46 00:05:04,304 --> 00:05:06,807 - So you're not a fan. - No. 47 00:05:06,973 --> 00:05:09,476 Well, what can I do for you? 48 00:05:09,643 --> 00:05:12,692 Well. not much, I expect, unless I can convince you 49 00:05:12,854 --> 00:05:17,280 to load those boxes back on that truck and leave as soon as you're able. 50 00:05:17,442 --> 00:05:19,365 No, I don't think so. But, you know what. 51 00:05:19,528 --> 00:05:21,826 I do have a couple of extra copies of Kentucky Blood 52 00:05:21,988 --> 00:05:24,366 if you want me to get one out and sign it for you. 53 00:05:24,533 --> 00:05:27,582 - No, thank you. sir. - Is it the writing? 54 00:05:27,744 --> 00:05:32,420 More a matter of content. You don't seem to care much for our profession. 55 00:05:32,582 --> 00:05:34,960 Not everybody in your profession gets it right. 56 00:05:35,126 --> 00:05:37,595 I've read your books. Neither do you. 57 00:05:39,297 --> 00:05:41,971 - Look... - You got it right in Kentucky Blood. 58 00:05:42,133 --> 00:05:45,307 I'll give you that. It's a fine piece of writing. 59 00:05:45,470 --> 00:05:48,349 But Cold Denver Morning, you got it wrong. 60 00:05:48,515 --> 00:05:50,893 - Blood Diner... - Look, that wasn't my fault. All right? 61 00:05:51,101 --> 00:05:55,732 Your bad theory helped a killer go free. You ruined people's lives. 62 00:05:55,897 --> 00:05:59,777 Now. this town doesn't need that. It needs to heal. It needs to forget. 63 00:05:59,943 --> 00:06:02,492 We sure don't want that circus that you bring with you. 64 00:06:02,654 --> 00:06:04,531 Well, there's a missing girl involved here. 65 00:06:04,698 --> 00:06:08,669 - She ain't missing. She's dead. - Come on. You don't know that. 66 00:06:08,869 --> 00:06:11,372 If that girl is still alive, then it ain't no miracle 67 00:06:11,538 --> 00:06:13,006 and we ain't ever gonna find her. 68 00:06:13,164 --> 00:06:15,542 Then I guess we should just let it go. 69 00:06:15,709 --> 00:06:19,054 You don't think the town deserves an explanation? 70 00:06:19,212 --> 00:06:23,592 Something like this... You can never explain something like this. 71 00:06:24,801 --> 00:06:28,772 And if you were able to. the odds are you wouldn't much care for the answer. 72 00:06:28,930 --> 00:06:31,228 Now. we did ourjob. You'll see that. 73 00:06:31,391 --> 00:06:35,988 And this is just another waste of your time like your last two books. 74 00:06:37,063 --> 00:06:39,566 If writing true crime has taught me one thing. 75 00:06:39,733 --> 00:06:43,203 It's that whenever an officer of the law tells me that I'm wasting my time, 76 00:06:43,361 --> 00:06:45,784 it just means he thinks he's wasting his. 77 00:06:45,947 --> 00:06:48,826 That's clever. You ought to write that down. 78 00:06:48,992 --> 00:06:51,586 Well, I'm gonna go out on a limb 79 00:06:51,745 --> 00:06:54,123 and assume your department is not at my disposal? 80 00:06:54,289 --> 00:06:58,886 Well, what do you know? You can still get things right on occasion. 81 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:08,980 And... I find this to be in extremely bad taste. 82 00:07:20,148 --> 00:07:21,866 - What was all that about? - The usual. 83 00:07:22,025 --> 00:07:24,323 He wanted an autograph, but he left his copy at home. 84 00:07:24,486 --> 00:07:26,204 - He'll be back later. - That bad? 85 00:07:26,363 --> 00:07:28,786 Why was he pointing at the house? 86 00:07:29,658 --> 00:07:33,959 Ellison, we didn't move in a few houses down from a crime scene again. did we'? 87 00:07:34,788 --> 00:07:36,631 - Tracy... - No. just don't say anything. 88 00:07:36,790 --> 00:07:38,884 If we did. I don't wanna know about it. 89 00:07:40,377 --> 00:07:42,550 - We didn't. - You promise? 90 00:07:42,712 --> 00:07:44,259 I promise. 91 00:07:45,298 --> 00:07:48,848 Here. Make yourself useful. Kitchen. 92 00:07:50,261 --> 00:07:53,231 It's gonna be good here. OK? You'll see. 93 00:08:39,227 --> 00:08:40,979 Shit. 94 00:08:45,942 --> 00:08:48,036 Shit. 95 00:09:10,467 --> 00:09:12,014 You gotta be kidding me. 96 00:09:15,889 --> 00:09:18,483 Family Hanging Out, '11? 97 00:09:22,812 --> 00:09:24,234 Barbeque. '79'? 98 00:09:32,697 --> 00:09:35,667 I've also got noodles and fortune cookies. 99 00:09:35,825 --> 00:09:38,999 Enjoy, kids. We're not likely to be able to eat out much this time. 100 00:09:39,162 --> 00:09:40,664 - Why not'? 101 00:09:40,830 --> 00:09:42,082 - You know why. - I don't. 102 00:09:42,248 --> 00:09:43,750 We haven't sold the old house yet. 103 00:09:43,917 --> 00:09:46,636 Once ifs gone, we'll be able to afford a few extra things. 104 00:09:46,795 --> 00:09:49,093 Then sell it already. Lower the price if you have to. 105 00:09:49,255 --> 00:09:51,553 We've already lowered it as much as we can. 106 00:09:51,716 --> 00:09:55,061 The market's terrible. Once we're not paying two mortgages, we'll be fine. 107 00:09:55,220 --> 00:09:57,939 And once I sell my new book, we'll be on Easy Street. 108 00:09:58,098 --> 00:10:01,193 - Is the story a good one this time? - Yeah, ifs good. Of course it is. 109 00:10:01,392 --> 00:10:03,611 - Will you show me where it happened? - Trevor. 110 00:10:03,770 --> 00:10:05,443 I'm old enough to know about this stuff. 111 00:10:05,605 --> 00:10:08,279 No, you're not. Even I'm not old enough to know about this stuff. 112 00:10:08,441 --> 00:10:11,115 Your father writes about terrible, terrible things. 113 00:10:11,277 --> 00:10:13,746 - I shouldn't be writing about it? - That's not what I meant. 114 00:10:13,905 --> 00:10:15,578 That's the way you said it. 115 00:10:15,740 --> 00:10:17,663 I'm gonna hear about it at school anyway. 116 00:10:17,826 --> 00:10:20,420 Kids'll all hate me again and tell me nonstop what happened. 117 00:10:20,578 --> 00:10:23,502 - Hey' nobody hates you. - I might as well hear it from you. 118 00:10:23,665 --> 00:10:26,088 - Are you listening to this? - Yes. I'm listening. 119 00:10:26,251 --> 00:10:28,345 Let's at least make sure your office stays locked. 120 00:10:28,503 --> 00:10:30,551 It's one thing to hear about it, another to see it. 121 00:10:30,713 --> 00:10:32,465 I don't want him walking in again. He's 12. 122 00:10:32,674 --> 00:10:35,427 - Mom' he knows how old I am. - Hey. stop it. 123 00:10:35,593 --> 00:10:38,847 - What's the first rule? - Never go in Dads office. 124 00:10:39,013 --> 00:10:40,265 And what's the rule? 125 00:10:40,431 --> 00:10:42,980 - Always lock Dads office. - That's right. 126 00:10:43,143 --> 00:10:46,238 And I don't wanna hear another thing about why we're here, from anybody. 127 00:10:46,396 --> 00:10:47,568 Yeah. 128 00:10:56,072 --> 00:10:57,574 You didn't brush your teeth. 129 00:10:57,740 --> 00:11:00,789 - No. not yet. - You're not coming to bed? 130 00:11:00,952 --> 00:11:04,877 No, I thought Pd set up my office first and get started. 131 00:11:05,039 --> 00:11:07,212 - How long is it gonna be? - Just an hour or two. 132 00:11:07,375 --> 00:11:10,970 No. I mean... how long are we here for this time? 133 00:11:11,129 --> 00:11:14,804 God' I don't know. It could be along one. 134 00:11:14,966 --> 00:11:17,014 I liked it better when you were writing fiction. 135 00:11:18,553 --> 00:11:21,181 - Nobody likes my fiction. - Maybe you should try again. 136 00:11:21,347 --> 00:11:23,020 I can't do this without you by my side. 137 00:11:23,183 --> 00:11:26,232 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm on your side. 138 00:11:28,229 --> 00:11:30,857 I just wanna see you enjoying your work again. 139 00:11:31,941 --> 00:11:35,616 When you're happy... we're all happy. 140 00:11:35,778 --> 00:11:38,952 I just need another hit. that's all. 141 00:11:39,115 --> 00:11:42,164 - Just one more. - I just... 142 00:11:44,204 --> 00:11:46,252 What? 143 00:11:46,414 --> 00:11:48,508 - You know I'm behind you on this. - I know. 144 00:11:48,666 --> 00:11:52,591 But that's not what you were gonna say. What were you gonna say? 145 00:11:52,754 --> 00:11:54,848 Kentucky Blood was ten years ago. 146 00:11:56,257 --> 00:11:57,474 And? 147 00:11:57,634 --> 00:12:01,434 And... what if that was your 15 minutes? 148 00:12:02,764 --> 00:12:05,813 OK, what if it was'? 149 00:12:05,975 --> 00:12:11,106 If it was, you can't just spend the rest of your life chasing after it. 150 00:12:11,272 --> 00:12:14,196 If you miss out on these years with the kids, you won't get them back. 151 00:12:14,359 --> 00:12:16,487 I just need one more chance, that's all, one more. 152 00:12:16,653 --> 00:12:19,327 - OK. good. - I got a good feeling about this. 153 00:12:20,657 --> 00:12:22,455 But, Ell. I don't think I can do this again. 154 00:12:22,617 --> 00:12:25,666 - Honey' you're not gonna have to. - No. I mean it. 155 00:12:27,205 --> 00:12:30,129 If this goes sour like last time. 156 00:12:30,291 --> 00:12:34,091 I'll take Trevor and Ashley and go back home to my sister's. 157 00:12:37,131 --> 00:12:39,634 - Is that fair? - Yes. 158 00:12:42,345 --> 00:12:45,189 But it's not gonna go sour. 159 00:12:45,348 --> 00:12:48,602 Good. Now go kick some arse. 160 00:13:43,614 --> 00:13:46,663 What the hell? Let's do this. 161 00:14:17,523 --> 00:14:18,740 All right. 162 00:16:58,017 --> 00:16:59,940 Why would you film it'? 163 00:18:21,726 --> 00:18:23,774 Daddy, I can't find the bathroom. 164 00:18:23,978 --> 00:18:26,731 Come here. Come on. Come on. We'll get you... 165 00:18:31,569 --> 00:18:33,663 Thank you, Daddy. 166 00:18:39,910 --> 00:18:43,835 Look at all these new paintings. You're really getting good. 167 00:18:43,998 --> 00:18:47,753 Thank you. Maybe one day I'll paint something really good. 168 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:52,010 - Then I'll be famous like you. - I'm sure you will, princess. 169 00:18:52,882 --> 00:18:55,510 - All right, get some sleep. - OK. 170 00:18:57,637 --> 00:18:59,810 - And Daddy? - Yes'? 171 00:18:59,972 --> 00:19:03,476 Are you gonna write a really good book this time so we can go home? 172 00:19:03,643 --> 00:19:07,693 I'm gonna Write the best book that anyones ever read. 173 00:21:33,209 --> 00:21:36,634 - Operator. - Yeah, King County Police, please. 174 00:21:36,796 --> 00:21:40,801 - Is this an emergency? - Yes, yes, it is. 175 00:21:53,771 --> 00:21:57,446 King County Police Department. How may I direct your call? 176 00:21:57,608 --> 00:22:01,488 King County Police Department. How may I direct your call? 177 00:22:05,074 --> 00:22:06,451 He//07 178 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,254 He//07 179 00:22:18,003 --> 00:22:20,131 All right. 180 00:22:28,472 --> 00:22:31,146 You came back and left the box. 181 00:22:33,185 --> 00:22:34,482 Why? 182 00:23:01,005 --> 00:23:04,475 Dammit, Ashley. 183 00:23:09,263 --> 00:23:11,106 Ashley? 184 00:24:47,945 --> 00:24:50,118 Trevor! Trevor, Trevor, Trevor, hey. hey! 185 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,875 Wake up. Trevor, Wake up, all right? Hey, hey, hey. Hey, wake up. 186 00:24:54,034 --> 00:24:57,664 Wake up, all right'? OK, OK. Come on, come on. 187 00:24:57,830 --> 00:25:00,709 My God, is he OK? 188 00:25:00,874 --> 00:25:03,468 Come on, open up. Here we go. Come outside. 189 00:25:03,627 --> 00:25:06,551 Hey, hey-Hey, hey, all right? Hey, hey, hey, wake up. 190 00:25:06,714 --> 00:25:09,217 Come on, come on, come on. wake up. Wake up, wake up. wake up. 191 00:25:09,383 --> 00:25:11,602 Trevor, wake up for me, all right? Hey, hey, hey. 192 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,730 Look at the stars. Trevor. Trevor, Trevor. 193 00:25:18,100 --> 00:25:20,979 - Why are we outside'? - All right, bud. OK. 194 00:25:21,145 --> 00:25:23,739 You were having a bad dream. OK'? One of those night terrors. 195 00:25:23,897 --> 00:25:26,946 - Just go back to sleep. - I thought these were over. 196 00:25:27,943 --> 00:25:31,368 It's just the stress of the move. I found him in one of the moving boxes. 197 00:25:31,530 --> 00:25:32,952 Poor baby. 198 00:25:33,115 --> 00:25:35,459 He'll be all right in a few hours. 199 00:25:35,659 --> 00:25:38,378 Tracy. I... 200 00:25:38,537 --> 00:25:40,915 What is it? What's the matter? 201 00:25:41,915 --> 00:25:45,169 I wanna... I wanna tell you something. 202 00:25:45,335 --> 00:25:47,133 OK. 203 00:25:50,841 --> 00:25:52,935 I'm just really sorry. 204 00:25:54,344 --> 00:25:58,645 It's not your fault. Come on. It's cold. Let's go inside. 205 00:26:06,940 --> 00:26:09,034 I was in a box? 206 00:26:09,193 --> 00:26:11,412 - You were in a box. - I don't remember any of that. 207 00:26:11,570 --> 00:26:13,868 It's not the strangest place we've ever found you. 208 00:26:14,031 --> 00:26:15,499 Please don't talk about the dryer. 209 00:26:15,657 --> 00:26:18,661 Are we talking about the time we found Trevor trying to pee in the dryer? 210 00:26:18,827 --> 00:26:20,670 - God, Mom, no. - I'm sorry, honey. 211 00:26:20,829 --> 00:26:22,877 I thought that's what you were talking about. 212 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,792 Did Trevor try to pee in the dryer again? 213 00:26:24,958 --> 00:26:27,677 - Mom. - No. Your brother had a night terror. 214 00:26:27,836 --> 00:26:30,134 - Is that like a bad dream? - Kind of. 215 00:26:30,297 --> 00:26:32,425 I think I had one of those. 216 00:26:32,591 --> 00:26:35,094 No, a night terror is a special kind of bad dream. 217 00:26:35,260 --> 00:26:39,265 We would have remembered if you had one. Don't do that. You can sit right here. 218 00:26:39,431 --> 00:26:42,810 So, Ashley, you excited about your first day at the new school? 219 00:26:42,976 --> 00:26:44,728 - What about you? - I guess. 220 00:26:44,895 --> 00:26:48,069 It's nice to see you're both so enthusiastic about our adventure. 221 00:26:48,232 --> 00:26:50,985 - Stop it. - Hey, you two stop it. Stop it. 222 00:26:51,151 --> 00:26:53,370 Be the bigger person. Are you gonna take 'em? 223 00:26:53,529 --> 00:26:55,031 Yeah, I've got some errands to run. 224 00:26:55,197 --> 00:26:58,076 I figured I'd get the lay of the land and let you get some work done. 225 00:26:58,242 --> 00:27:00,620 - Eat up. You're running late. - You heard your mother. 226 00:27:00,786 --> 00:27:02,538 Grab some road breakfast and skedaddle. 227 00:27:02,704 --> 00:27:05,583 - I left you a fresh pot of coffee. - Thanks. 228 00:27:05,749 --> 00:27:07,751 Have a nice morning with your murder victims. 229 00:27:07,918 --> 00:27:08,965 - Yes. dear. - Come on. 230 00:27:09,128 --> 00:27:11,756 - Trevor, where's your notebook? - It should be in my backpack. 231 00:27:11,922 --> 00:27:14,016 Can you see it in there? 232 00:29:24,096 --> 00:29:25,222 Fuck. 233 00:29:35,774 --> 00:29:37,776 That's it. OK. 234 00:29:37,943 --> 00:29:42,244 "Super 8 film was first released in 1966 by Eastman Kodak." 235 00:29:44,449 --> 00:29:45,496 OK. 236 00:30:44,509 --> 00:30:47,479 Trevor. dorft walk away from me. Ashley. close the door. 237 00:30:47,637 --> 00:30:49,639 Trevor, what on earth were you thinking'? 238 00:30:49,806 --> 00:30:52,309 I'll tell you again. I wasn't thinking. 239 00:30:52,476 --> 00:30:54,444 That's your problem. You don't think. 240 00:30:54,603 --> 00:30:57,231 You wanna be treated like an adult' but you don't act like one. 241 00:30:57,397 --> 00:31:00,025 You and Dad do lots of thinking. If you did. we wouldn't be here. 242 00:31:00,192 --> 00:31:01,944 You don't know what you're talking about. 243 00:31:02,110 --> 00:31:03,750 - I know more than you. - Go to your room! 244 00:31:03,904 --> 00:31:05,872 - I don't wanna see you until dinner. - Fine. 245 00:31:06,031 --> 00:31:07,783 - What happened? - Mom's overreacting. 246 00:31:07,949 --> 00:31:09,917 - Your son is acting out again. - What did he do'? 247 00:31:10,077 --> 00:31:13,957 - You're automatically taking her side'? - Hey, stop it. What did you do? 248 00:31:14,122 --> 00:31:15,169 I drew a picture. 249 00:31:15,332 --> 00:31:18,176 A picture with a permanent marker on the classroom whiteboard. 250 00:31:18,335 --> 00:31:20,087 - God. Trevor? - Tell him what you drew. 251 00:31:20,253 --> 00:31:23,006 - I drew a tree. - With four people hanging from it. 252 00:31:23,173 --> 00:31:26,803 Go to your room. Trevor. I need to speak to your father. 253 00:31:26,968 --> 00:31:28,595 His first day at school, Ellison, 254 00:31:28,762 --> 00:31:31,311 and he's already hearing the grisly details of your mystery? 255 00:31:31,473 --> 00:31:33,350 - What did he hear? - Exactly what he drew. 256 00:31:33,517 --> 00:31:35,611 That your book is about a family that was hung. 257 00:31:35,769 --> 00:31:37,988 - Christ, Ellison. - But that's all he heard? 258 00:31:38,146 --> 00:31:40,069 That's not enough? 259 00:31:40,232 --> 00:31:44,032 Look, I'm sorry he had to find out like this. all right? I am. 260 00:31:44,194 --> 00:31:45,992 But. come on. it was bound to happen. 261 00:31:46,154 --> 00:31:48,577 Really? That's your response? You think that makes it OK? 262 00:31:48,740 --> 00:31:50,538 No, it doesn't make it OK. all right? 263 00:31:50,700 --> 00:31:53,704 Nothing about what happened to these people is OK. 264 00:31:53,870 --> 00:31:55,668 But bad things happen to good people 265 00:31:55,831 --> 00:31:57,754 and they still need to have their story told. 266 00:31:57,916 --> 00:32:00,760 - They deserve that much. - You're a real man of the people. 267 00:32:00,919 --> 00:32:03,013 Come... 268 00:32:12,305 --> 00:32:15,900 - I'm putting the kids to bed. - Kiss them good night for me. 269 00:32:17,561 --> 00:32:19,939 - You're getting good work done? - Yeah. 270 00:32:20,105 --> 00:32:22,949 Good. Please keep the door closed. 271 00:36:10,710 --> 00:36:15,386 OK, 1998. St Louis murders. 272 00:36:23,056 --> 00:36:25,104 New details today in the grisly murders 273 00:36:25,266 --> 00:36:27,519 of a focal family found earlier this week. 274 00:36:27,686 --> 00:36:31,065 Police have released this photo of Christopher Miller, 275 00:36:31,231 --> 00:36:34,405 the missing 13-year-old son of William and Penny Miller. 276 00:36:34,567 --> 00:36:36,490 The Millers. Along with their younger son, 277 00:36:36,653 --> 00:36:38,621 were found stabbed inside their home. 278 00:36:38,780 --> 00:36:41,374 And police now are asking for any information 279 00:36:41,533 --> 00:36:45,629 that could lead to Christopher's return or the apprehension of any suspects 280 00:36:45,787 --> 00:36:49,587 involved in this vicious multiple murder and chi/d abduct/on. 281 00:41:00,208 --> 00:41:02,302 [' UOLJCI bang] 282 00:42:26,210 --> 00:42:27,928 Family Hanging Out. 283 00:42:36,721 --> 00:42:38,815 Pool Party. 284 00:42:45,688 --> 00:42:47,315 Barbecue. 285 00:42:53,112 --> 00:42:55,206 Sleepy Time. 286 00:43:28,523 --> 00:43:29,570 Really. I'm fine. 287 00:43:29,732 --> 00:43:33,362 I'd prefer to take you down to the hospital. You should get stitches. 288 00:43:33,528 --> 00:43:35,951 - Can't force you, though. - Yeah, and I'm not gonna go. 289 00:43:36,114 --> 00:43:38,742 The bleedings stopped for now. But if it starts again 290 00:43:38,908 --> 00:43:41,411 or if there's any more swelling, call a doctor immediately. 291 00:43:41,577 --> 00:43:43,671 - Thank you. Appreciate it. - OK. 292 00:43:45,164 --> 00:43:50,637 - This way. - So... let's go see this hole. 293 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,060 So you say you heard a loud thump and footsteps in the attic 294 00:43:57,218 --> 00:43:58,390 after the power went out'? 295 00:43:58,553 --> 00:43:59,600 Yes. 296 00:44:01,389 --> 00:44:04,017 - But the ladder wasn't down'? - No, it wasn't. 297 00:44:04,183 --> 00:44:07,733 It's not possible to close it from inside the attic? 298 00:44:07,895 --> 00:44:09,738 No. 299 00:44:09,897 --> 00:44:11,899 So how would an intruder get up there? 300 00:44:12,066 --> 00:44:15,411 I didn't say anyone was up there. I said it sounded like there was an intruder. 301 00:44:15,570 --> 00:44:18,574 - I did see a small snake, though. - Snakes don't have feet. 302 00:44:20,700 --> 00:44:24,625 You know, I'm... I'm guessing that you got squirrels. 303 00:44:24,787 --> 00:44:27,381 With, you know, way in and out up there 304 00:44:27,540 --> 00:44:30,009 and all the power gone off in the neighbourhood. 305 00:44:30,168 --> 00:44:34,674 I bet they got spooked from the sound of everything shutting down at once. 306 00:44:34,839 --> 00:44:36,841 - You know how they are. - Not really. 307 00:44:37,008 --> 00:44:39,807 - I'm not really a squirrel guy. - Really? 308 00:44:39,969 --> 00:44:43,143 I did kill a scorpion when we first moved in here. though, 309 00:44:43,306 --> 00:44:44,979 so maybe I should get an exterminator. 310 00:44:45,141 --> 00:44:49,362 Scorpions have feet. but you wouldn't hear 'em like you would squirrels. 311 00:44:51,105 --> 00:44:53,403 Well, Officer, thank you very much. 312 00:44:53,566 --> 00:44:57,116 It's... I will... If there's anything else I can do for you... 313 00:44:57,278 --> 00:45:00,999 Actually. there is. I left my copy of Kentucky Blood down at the station. 314 00:45:01,157 --> 00:45:03,125 It'd really mean a lot to me if you signed a copy. 315 00:45:03,284 --> 00:45:07,380 - I got a few extra copies in my office. - Thank you so much. That's so great. 316 00:45:09,248 --> 00:45:12,468 Wow. Do you know what? This is like one of them FBI profilefis offices. 317 00:45:12,627 --> 00:45:15,722 You got a map with pictures connected with yarn and everything. 318 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,760 Deputy. I need you to step outside. This is my private office. I'm serious. 319 00:45:19,926 --> 00:45:21,724 - Just wait outside. - Mr Oswalt. listen. 320 00:45:21,886 --> 00:45:24,765 You know there's a page in your books 321 00:45:24,931 --> 00:45:28,276 where you always say nice things about all the people that helped you out? 322 00:45:28,434 --> 00:45:30,778 - The acknowledgements? - Yeah. well... 323 00:45:30,937 --> 00:45:34,737 Yeah. and in each one there's always like a line that says, you know. 324 00:45:34,899 --> 00:45:37,402 "I couldn't have done this without the tireless efforts 325 00:45:37,568 --> 00:45:41,493 of Deputy So And So from the local police department." 326 00:45:41,656 --> 00:45:43,078 Right. 327 00:45:43,241 --> 00:45:46,461 Well. you know. I could be like... 328 00:45:46,619 --> 00:45:50,749 you know, your Deputy So And So, you know, if you don't already have one. 329 00:45:50,915 --> 00:45:53,464 Yeah, there are a few things you could do for me, actually. 330 00:45:53,626 --> 00:45:55,299 - Really? - Yeah. this could be perfect. 331 00:45:55,461 --> 00:45:57,555 - Do you have a notepad? - Um... 332 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,394 - Yes. - All right. Do you need a pen? 333 00:46:05,137 --> 00:46:06,354 Yes. 334 00:46:06,514 --> 00:46:09,267 I need the street address of a crime. 335 00:46:09,433 --> 00:46:11,856 In 1998, St Louis. A family was stabbed to death. 336 00:46:12,019 --> 00:46:14,488 They had their throats cut. It was a pretty ugly affair. 337 00:46:14,647 --> 00:46:17,571 I also need any details you can get me on another murder. 338 00:46:17,733 --> 00:46:20,111 1979, a family was burned alive, 339 00:46:20,278 --> 00:46:22,656 parked inside their own car, in their own garage. 340 00:46:22,822 --> 00:46:24,620 - What city'? - I don't know. 341 00:46:24,782 --> 00:46:27,501 All I have is the year and the method of execution. 342 00:46:27,660 --> 00:46:30,880 You think that the two cases are related? 343 00:46:31,038 --> 00:46:36,340 - No, no. I'm just doing research. - OK. I can definitely get this for you. 344 00:46:36,502 --> 00:46:40,177 I gotta wait till the sheriff leaves the office, but I will get it. 345 00:46:40,339 --> 00:46:42,341 Thank you very much, Deputy So And So. 346 00:46:47,471 --> 00:46:49,394 - I'm sorry. - For what? 347 00:46:49,557 --> 00:46:52,060 I was angry at Trevor today and I took it out on you. 348 00:46:52,226 --> 00:46:54,570 No, don't be sorry. I know the move's been hard for you. 349 00:46:54,729 --> 00:46:58,450 - I'm trying, Ell. I really am. - I know. 350 00:46:58,607 --> 00:47:00,905 I just want you here with me' that's all. 351 00:47:01,068 --> 00:47:05,164 I've always been with you. And I'm with you now. 352 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,134 Pleased to have Ellison Oswalt on our programme. 353 00:47:16,292 --> 00:47:18,090 His new book is called Kentucky Blood. 354 00:47:18,252 --> 00:47:20,880 - Good to have you on. - Thanks for having me. A real pleasure' 355 00:47:21,047 --> 00:47:23,800 Man. Igor into this. This is pretty graphic stuff 356 00:47:23,966 --> 00:47:26,219 So let me start by asking why you spend so much time 357 00:47:26,385 --> 00:47:28,934 investigating such grisly come-m'? 358 00:47:29,096 --> 00:47:32,145 Fame and money? No. I'm just kidding' 359 00:47:32,308 --> 00:47:36,734 The honest answer Is that I'm really driven by a sense of injustice. 360 00:47:36,937 --> 00:47:39,690 When I think about the awful things that happened to these people 361 00:47:39,857 --> 00:47:43,407 and that those responsible were never even identified, let alone caught... 362 00:47:43,569 --> 00:47:45,822 I mean. I knew when I starfeo' this parT/'cufar case 363 00:47:45,988 --> 00:47:48,992 that I might stumble on a few things that maybe somebodyo overlooked. 364 00:47:49,158 --> 00:47:52,287 Might? No. you in fact did uncover some additional information 365 00:47:52,453 --> 00:47:54,922 that the cops had overlooked' 366 00:47:55,081 --> 00:47:58,585 Well. look. first off. there are a lot of good police officers out there 367 00:47:58,751 --> 00:48:01,220 and I don't wanna in any way disparage what they do, right? 368 00:48:01,379 --> 00:48:05,100 But in police work getting something wrong means ruining people's lives' 369 00:48:05,257 --> 00:48:07,225 Good crime Writing can set things right' 370 00:48:07,385 --> 00:48:10,059 So, ultimately, What feels better? 371 00:48:10,221 --> 00:48:14,351 Seeing justice done or seeing your book. Kentucky Blood. 372 00:48:14,517 --> 00:48:17,020 Number one on the New York Times bestseller list? 373 00:48:19,146 --> 00:48:21,899 The justice. without question' 374 00:48:22,066 --> 00:48:25,741 I'd rather cut my hands off than write a book for fame or money. 375 00:51:06,730 --> 00:51:09,404 - Are you making Daddy his coffee? - Yes. 376 00:51:09,567 --> 00:51:11,285 Can I help? I wanna bring it to him. 377 00:51:11,443 --> 00:51:14,413 Sure, honey, but we have to make it just right. 378 00:51:14,572 --> 00:51:16,745 He's very particular about his coffee. 379 00:51:30,713 --> 00:51:33,512 - Brought you your coffee, Daddy. - Thank you, sweetheart. 380 00:51:36,510 --> 00:51:39,263 - Yeah' hello. - Hey. Mr Osvva/t' 381 00:51:39,430 --> 00:51:41,103 Hey, Deputy So And So. 382 00:51:41,265 --> 00:51:43,267 I'm sorry to get back to you so late in the day. 383 00:51:43,434 --> 00:51:46,108 / couldn't make the call from the office. You know. the sheriff 384 00:51:46,270 --> 00:51:49,069 - Yeah, I understand. - But I got what you asked about. 385 00:51:49,273 --> 00:51:51,901 There was a Martinez family in Sacramento, California, 386 00:51:52,067 --> 00:51:55,412 that died in their garage in 1979. Their car was set on fire. 387 00:51:55,571 --> 00:51:57,869 One of their sons. nine years old. They never found him. 388 00:51:58,032 --> 00:52:03,209 - Do you have the street address? - It's 8224 Bl/lington. Sacramento. 389 00:52:03,370 --> 00:52:04,462 And what about St Louis? 390 00:52:04,622 --> 00:52:07,375 The address of the house where the Mil/er murders occurred is 391 00:52:07,541 --> 00:52:10,385 2976 Piedmont Way, St LoL/is. 392 00:52:10,544 --> 00:52:15,220 That is excellent. 29... Wait, did you say 2976, like 29-76'? 393 00:52:15,382 --> 00:52:17,009 Yeah. Does that mean something to you? 394 00:52:17,176 --> 00:52:20,055 No. no. it doesn't. No. Thank you. Thank you. Deputy. 395 00:52:23,891 --> 00:52:26,144 Before the Stevensons moved here. 396 00:52:26,310 --> 00:52:29,234 They lived where the Miller family murders happened? 397 00:52:29,396 --> 00:52:31,490 Holy shit. 398 00:53:55,566 --> 00:53:57,113 Ashley? 399 00:53:59,403 --> 00:54:00,575 Trevor? 400 00:56:20,377 --> 00:56:22,630 My God. Is he OK'? 401 00:56:22,796 --> 00:56:24,548 I found him outside. 402 00:56:24,715 --> 00:56:27,264 We have to put a lock on his door. It's way worse than it was. 403 00:56:27,426 --> 00:56:29,520 I'll call the doctor in the morning. 404 00:56:34,057 --> 00:56:37,106 You stay with him. I left something outside. 405 00:57:01,209 --> 00:57:04,804 Good dog. Good dog. 406 00:57:05,839 --> 00:57:07,557 I don't wanna hurt you. 407 00:57:10,886 --> 00:57:13,435 I just wanna get my bat... 408 00:57:15,432 --> 00:57:18,606 so if you come at me, I can bash your head in, OK? 409 00:57:20,270 --> 00:57:22,022 That's fine. You keep it. 410 00:57:32,032 --> 00:57:35,161 - You OK'? - Yeah, I'm fine, fine. 411 00:57:36,244 --> 00:57:38,212 Trevor's too old to still be having these. 412 00:57:38,372 --> 00:57:40,249 He was supposed to have outgrown them by now. 413 00:57:40,415 --> 00:57:42,793 - He's all right. He's OK. - Just stop. 414 00:57:44,127 --> 00:57:46,425 - Stop what? - Drop the book. 415 00:57:47,547 --> 00:57:50,141 We can pack up. get out of town and never look back. 416 00:57:50,300 --> 00:57:52,177 Why, 'cause he's having some night terrors? 417 00:57:52,344 --> 00:57:54,267 It's more than that. He's never been this bad. 418 00:57:54,429 --> 00:57:56,852 - You've never been this bad. - What are you talking about? 419 00:57:57,015 --> 00:57:59,768 You've been at this book less than a week and you're already a mess. 420 00:57:59,935 --> 00:58:02,358 You never crack into the whisky this early and this often. 421 00:58:02,521 --> 00:58:04,239 - You're saying I'm a drunk? - No. 422 00:58:04,398 --> 00:58:06,742 I'm saying there's something you aren't telling me, 423 00:58:06,900 --> 00:58:10,279 something that's eating you up, and it seems to be getting to Trevor as well. 424 00:58:10,445 --> 00:58:13,324 - Somethings different this time. - Yeah. you wanna know what it is'? 425 00:58:13,490 --> 00:58:16,164 - How much do you wanna know? - I wanna know why you're different. 426 00:58:16,326 --> 00:58:19,705 I'm different because I've never been onto something this big before. 427 00:58:19,871 --> 00:58:22,169 Do you remember how it was when I was writing Kentucky? 428 00:58:22,332 --> 00:58:25,211 - I remember. - This is much bigger than that! Much! 429 00:58:25,377 --> 00:58:28,221 I am talking about a potentially important work here. 430 00:58:28,380 --> 00:58:31,805 I'm talking about a mega hit. This could be my In Colo' Blood. 431 00:58:31,967 --> 00:58:36,689 A movie deal' talk show circuit. right? A national book award. 432 00:58:36,847 --> 00:58:39,600 More money than we could... We could live wherever we wanted to. 433 00:58:39,766 --> 00:58:42,144 - I don't care about any of that. - You do. Everybody does. 434 00:58:42,310 --> 00:58:44,688 - Fmjust... - This is my shot. Tracy. 435 00:58:46,273 --> 00:58:48,401 You're just what? 436 00:58:48,567 --> 00:58:54,245 - I'm just worried about you. - Well. don't be. Nothing is wrong. 437 00:58:54,406 --> 00:58:57,000 Then why did you come in white as a ghost? 438 00:58:58,243 --> 00:59:00,962 Because I saw a dog. OK'? 439 00:59:01,121 --> 00:59:04,921 - A dog? - A very big dog, like Cujo big. 440 00:59:05,083 --> 00:59:08,257 I mean, I'd never seen him before. He's like... 441 00:59:08,420 --> 00:59:10,422 - Did you get rid of him? - Yeah, he's gone. 442 00:59:10,589 --> 00:59:13,217 Listen, I just need a little more time. OK? 443 00:59:13,383 --> 00:59:15,681 I promise it's worth it. 444 00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:19,815 Every minute that we're here, we're a minute closer to that happy ending 445 00:59:19,973 --> 00:59:21,520 that we always dreamed of. 446 00:59:21,683 --> 00:59:23,731 We're almost there. 447 00:59:25,062 --> 00:59:27,156 OK? 448 00:59:30,734 --> 00:59:34,113 - Deputy. - Mr Oswalt, these came in this morning. 449 00:59:34,279 --> 00:59:37,624 I had a few of the pertinent files pulled for you and had 'em faxed over. 450 00:59:37,783 --> 00:59:39,126 - Really? - Yeah. 451 00:59:39,284 --> 00:59:41,378 - Thanks. - No problem. 452 00:59:42,245 --> 00:59:44,373 Do you think I could come in for a second? 453 00:59:44,539 --> 00:59:47,509 Yeah. sure. 454 00:59:47,667 --> 00:59:49,510 - Thanks. - Come on, just here. 455 00:59:49,669 --> 00:59:52,138 L0Ok4Li I know what you must think of me. 456 00:59:52,297 --> 00:59:56,598 Some small-town deputy that's starstruck with the famous writer. 457 00:59:56,760 --> 01:00:02,017 - But I'm not some local moron. - I didn't say you were a... you know. 458 01:00:02,182 --> 01:00:03,684 I have a degree in criminology. 459 01:00:03,850 --> 01:00:08,151 I've taken my fair share of forensic science courses. 460 01:00:08,313 --> 01:00:13,570 I also know a series of connected murders when I see one, Mr Oswalt. 461 01:00:13,735 --> 01:00:16,454 - Look... - We missed something. I get that. 462 01:00:16,613 --> 01:00:19,787 But if you want me to run interference for you while you get this worked out. 463 01:00:19,950 --> 01:00:23,830 I gotta be in the loop just a little bit. 464 01:00:25,330 --> 01:00:29,380 - You really wanna help? - It's my home, Mr Oswalt. 465 01:00:29,543 --> 01:00:32,171 What happened here happened to all of us. 466 01:00:32,337 --> 01:00:34,260 All right. Come here. 467 01:00:44,182 --> 01:00:46,401 Who is that? 468 01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,689 I don't know. That's what I'm hoping to find out. 469 01:00:52,774 --> 01:00:55,277 - You think these are serial murders? - Maybe. 470 01:00:55,443 --> 01:00:58,913 More ritualised than necessarily serial. But really spread out. 471 01:00:59,072 --> 01:01:03,794 And not just regionally but over time. The first one dates back to the '60s. 472 01:01:03,952 --> 01:01:07,001 - The 1960s? - Yeah. 473 01:01:07,164 --> 01:01:09,508 That would put the guy, what, in his 70s? 474 01:01:09,666 --> 01:01:12,215 - Yeah. or his 60s. - Yeah, I... 475 01:01:12,377 --> 01:01:15,221 - I don't know. - Well, look at the methodology. 476 01:01:15,380 --> 01:01:18,884 Toxicology reports. some cases the killer drugged his victims. 477 01:01:19,050 --> 01:01:22,805 - With what? - Well. they couldn't tell for sure. 478 01:01:23,471 --> 01:01:27,192 But by drugging them. the killer removes his need to overpower them. 479 01:01:27,350 --> 01:01:29,603 Here he used a tree branch to do the heavy lifting. 480 01:01:29,769 --> 01:01:33,273 In Sacramento he lit a family on fire. In St Louis he slit their throats. 481 01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,444 - The first family he drowned. - Drowning? You... 482 01:01:36,610 --> 01:01:39,079 You never said anything about anyone being drowned. 483 01:01:39,237 --> 01:01:41,706 The only other significant link between the murder cases 484 01:01:41,865 --> 01:01:46,086 is that in each instance the killer murdered the entire family except one. 485 01:01:46,244 --> 01:01:48,246 A child which he took with him. 486 01:01:48,413 --> 01:01:54,011 That and this symbol appears in several of the crime scenes. 487 01:01:54,169 --> 01:01:57,264 That looks like something from out of the occult. 488 01:01:57,422 --> 01:02:00,892 Look' you might wanna call the university. 489 01:02:01,051 --> 01:02:03,349 There's a professor over there. Professor Jonas. 490 01:02:03,511 --> 01:02:04,763 He's an occult crime expert 491 01:02:04,930 --> 01:02:08,651 and the state police bring him in on some of the... the weirder stuff. 492 01:02:08,808 --> 01:02:10,731 I think this qualifies. 493 01:02:10,894 --> 01:02:13,989 So where do you think that drowning happened'? 494 01:02:14,147 --> 01:02:16,525 That's what I need you to find out. 495 01:02:18,109 --> 01:02:19,156 OK. 496 01:04:42,253 --> 01:04:44,130 - Professor Jonas? - Yes. 497 01:04:44,297 --> 01:04:47,801 Hello. Hey, thank you for getting back to me so quickly. I appreciate that. 498 01:04:47,967 --> 01:04:51,767 Of course. I'm a really big fan. I'm flattered that you emailed. 499 01:04:51,930 --> 01:04:53,477 Once I saw the photos that you sent, 500 01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:56,314 I knew exactly what cases you were studying. 501 01:04:56,518 --> 01:04:59,067 Wait. How would you know what cases I was looking at? 502 01:04:59,229 --> 01:05:03,951 The symbol that you sent me is... isn't a pentagram. 503 01:05:04,109 --> 01:05:06,111 It's not something that you would see teenagers 504 01:05:06,277 --> 01:05:10,703 or a Non/vegian black metal band paint on a wall in goat's blood to be edgy. 505 01:05:10,865 --> 01:05:12,538 - Right. - Or to piss off the Christ/ans' 506 01:05:12,700 --> 01:05:15,579 No. this is a little bit more obscure than that. 507 01:05:15,745 --> 01:05:19,545 I know the one in the ivaflway. 508 01:05:19,707 --> 01:05:23,462 That's from the late '90s in St Louis. 509 01:05:23,670 --> 01:05:26,264 The other one. the... the car hood. 510 01:05:26,423 --> 01:05:29,097 That is from Sacramento. That's about 30 years ago' 511 01:05:29,259 --> 01:05:31,011 Tell me about the one in Sacramento. 512 01:05:31,177 --> 01:05:35,478 It's a symbol associated with the worship of a pagan deity' 513 01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:37,358 A deity? What kind of deity? 514 01:05:37,517 --> 01:05:41,613 A very obscure one. Dating back to Babylonian times' 515 01:05:41,771 --> 01:05:45,321 Named Bughuul. the eater of children' 516 01:05:45,483 --> 01:05:50,956 - Did you say eater? - Yes. of children. Thank you. Jessica' 517 01:05:51,114 --> 01:05:52,787 The crimes that you're dealing with. 518 01:05:52,949 --> 01:05:55,372 They all have the element of a missing child, correct? 519 01:05:55,535 --> 01:05:58,038 Yes. Yeah. That's correct. 520 01:05:58,204 --> 01:06:01,333 We/I. Bughuu/ eats children 521 01:06:01,499 --> 01:06:04,127 Now, the fragments of stories that have survived, 522 01:06:04,335 --> 01:06:09,683 they all revolve around him needing the sou/s of human children to survive. 523 01:06:09,841 --> 01:06:13,937 Now. each story involves a different Way 524 01:06:14,095 --> 01:06:19,317 that he lures or tricks these children away from the physical world 525 01:06:19,476 --> 01:06:22,650 and traps them in his own rvef/venn/or/d 526 01:06:22,812 --> 01:06:25,861 and he consumes their sou/s over t/nve' 527 01:06:26,024 --> 01:06:30,746 Now. any worship of this deity would include a blood sacrifice 528 01:06:30,904 --> 01:06:33,578 or the wholesale eating of a c/vi/o'. 529 01:06:33,740 --> 01:06:38,462 So you're saying the person that made this symbol is... is eating children? 530 01:06:38,620 --> 01:06:40,588 Well. that would fit the stories. 531 01:06:40,747 --> 01:06:44,377 Of course. the few times that this symbol has shown up. 532 01:06:44,542 --> 01:06:47,842 None of the crimes have been related in any way to any of this. 533 01:06:48,004 --> 01:06:51,224 So this might be more of a cu/t initiation 534 01:06:51,382 --> 01:06:55,478 rather than. you know. The actual actions of any one man' 535 01:06:58,973 --> 01:07:01,601 There's been another one. hasn't there? 536 01:07:04,771 --> 01:07:07,866 I think so, yes. 537 01:07:08,024 --> 01:07:10,026 Tell me everything you can. 538 01:11:18,816 --> 01:11:20,159 Shh. 539 01:12:58,416 --> 01:13:03,388 - I appreciate you coming by, Officer. - Yeah, it's not a problem at all. 540 01:13:03,546 --> 01:13:08,598 - So we're becoming friends. right'? - I... I suppose, yeah. 541 01:13:08,759 --> 01:13:11,888 - I mean, I can trust you, right? - Yeah, absolutely. 542 01:13:13,014 --> 01:13:14,857 So if I were to ask you something in earnest. 543 01:13:15,016 --> 01:13:17,644 You wouldn't read too much into it'? 544 01:13:17,810 --> 01:13:20,063 Um... All right. 545 01:13:22,023 --> 01:13:28,702 Was there anything... weird about the Stevensons? 546 01:13:31,157 --> 01:13:35,003 No complaints from them about anything... strange? 547 01:13:37,288 --> 01:13:38,540 No, not to my knowledge. 548 01:13:38,706 --> 01:13:41,676 The investigators. did they notice anything odd or inexplicable 549 01:13:41,834 --> 01:13:45,259 about the house, any... any weird stories? 550 01:13:45,421 --> 01:13:47,048 No. 551 01:13:47,256 --> 01:13:50,351 Mr Oswalt. is there something that you wanna tell me? 552 01:13:55,598 --> 01:13:59,228 Clearly something happened and you wanna talk to somebody about it, right? 553 01:13:59,393 --> 01:14:00,940 Yeah. 554 01:14:01,103 --> 01:14:04,323 OK, well, does your wife know about it'? 555 01:14:04,482 --> 01:14:06,576 Wait. 556 01:14:08,778 --> 01:14:12,783 Does she know whose house this is... was? 557 01:14:17,912 --> 01:14:22,884 Man. That is a conversation that I would not wanna be around for. 558 01:14:23,042 --> 01:14:24,589 - No, me neither. - I'm sorry. 559 01:14:24,752 --> 01:14:30,259 So... So, what. you saw something weird. Heard something spooky in the house? 560 01:14:31,884 --> 01:14:35,354 - Yes. Precisely. - What exactly? 561 01:14:36,889 --> 01:14:38,983 Now... 562 01:14:39,809 --> 01:14:44,610 I don't believe in any, you know. stuff. 563 01:14:44,772 --> 01:14:48,902 Stuff? You mean the supernatural. The metaphysical, the paranormal. 564 01:14:49,068 --> 01:14:51,196 - That type of stuff? - Right. 565 01:14:51,362 --> 01:14:52,955 Right. Of course you don't. 566 01:14:53,114 --> 01:14:55,458 You never would have moved into a crime scene if you did. 567 01:14:55,616 --> 01:14:58,836 But here we are having this conversation. 568 01:14:58,995 --> 01:15:01,965 Yeah but... but there was... 569 01:15:02,123 --> 01:15:07,880 there was none of that, you know. None of that with the Stevensons. '? 570 01:15:08,921 --> 01:15:11,925 No. In the short amount of time that the Stevensons lived here, 571 01:15:12,091 --> 01:15:15,015 they never called the police, they never had the police called on them 572 01:15:15,177 --> 01:15:18,647 or reported anything bizarre that came up in the investigation. 573 01:15:18,806 --> 01:15:21,730 - Do you wanna know what I think? - Yes. 574 01:15:25,730 --> 01:15:29,075 I think that you moved yourself into the house of murder victims 575 01:15:29,233 --> 01:15:32,203 and immediately set about trying to put yourself in their head space. 576 01:15:32,361 --> 01:15:35,991 I also think that you've begun discovering things about this case 577 01:15:36,157 --> 01:15:40,003 that go to darker places than you were prepared for. 578 01:15:40,161 --> 01:15:42,789 I also think that every time that I've been to your house. 579 01:15:42,955 --> 01:15:45,504 There's a whisky bottle that doesn't appear to be neglected. 580 01:15:45,666 --> 01:15:49,296 - No, no, no. I... - Mr Oswalt. listen. I don't. I don't... 581 01:15:49,462 --> 01:15:52,932 I'm not saying that you have a drinking problem. I don't think that. 582 01:15:53,090 --> 01:15:55,764 Nor do I think that you're making any of this up... 583 01:15:55,926 --> 01:15:57,724 - No! - ...to get attention. 584 01:15:57,887 --> 01:16:01,357 What I do think is that... that you are under so much stress. 585 01:16:01,515 --> 01:16:03,483 You've put yourself under so much stress. 586 01:16:03,642 --> 01:16:07,863 That your mind is trying to process all of it at once. 587 01:16:08,064 --> 01:16:13,321 So you don't believe any of that otherworldly stuff. right? 588 01:16:13,486 --> 01:16:16,956 Are you kidding me'? I believe in all that stuff. 589 01:16:17,114 --> 01:16:20,163 I... I wouldn't sleep one night in this place. Are you nuts? 590 01:16:20,326 --> 01:16:23,296 Four people were hung by their necks in the tree in your backyard 591 01:16:23,454 --> 01:16:26,378 and that little girl is probably God knows wherever. 592 01:16:26,540 --> 01:16:30,295 - OK. - I'm... I'm sorry. You know what? 593 01:16:30,461 --> 01:16:34,557 You should try and get out more, Mr Oswalt, try to clear your head. 594 01:16:36,509 --> 01:16:39,103 Total honesty? 595 01:16:41,138 --> 01:16:47,396 Last night I thought something was in the house... 596 01:16:48,187 --> 01:16:51,987 and I woke up on the couch holding a baseball bat. 597 01:16:54,276 --> 01:16:58,326 Well... I guess if I thought something was in my home at night. 598 01:16:58,489 --> 01:17:00,207 I'd be a little bit freaked out too. 599 01:17:00,366 --> 01:17:04,997 But. listen. Mr Oswait. If you sleep in this house. 600 01:17:05,162 --> 01:17:07,836 It's just gonna do terrible things to your head. 601 01:17:12,086 --> 01:17:14,555 Ellison! 602 01:17:14,713 --> 01:17:16,340 - Ellison! - What's going on? 603 01:17:16,507 --> 01:17:20,478 Your daughter thought there wasn't room on her walls for her new painting. 604 01:17:20,636 --> 01:17:22,388 - Ashley! - No, that's not it. 605 01:17:22,555 --> 01:17:24,683 What did we talk about? We only gave you one rule. 606 01:17:24,849 --> 01:17:27,227 It was a big deal for us to let you paint on your walls. 607 01:17:27,393 --> 01:17:30,067 - What's the rule, Ashley? - Paint only goes in the bedroom. 608 01:17:30,229 --> 01:17:32,231 And what makes you think you can paint out here? 609 01:17:32,398 --> 01:17:34,992 I wanted to paint her picture, but she didn't want it in my room 610 01:17:35,151 --> 01:17:37,495 because that used to be her brother's room. 611 01:17:37,653 --> 01:17:40,202 What? Who are you talking about? 612 01:17:40,364 --> 01:17:42,708 - Stephanie. - Who's Stephanie? 613 01:17:42,867 --> 01:17:47,418 She used to live here. Shes the one Daddy's writing his book about. 614 01:17:53,335 --> 01:17:55,463 Ashley, go to your room and shut the door. 615 01:18:03,888 --> 01:18:06,937 What the hell were you thinking? Did you think I wouldn't find out? 616 01:18:07,099 --> 01:18:11,149 Shh. Of course I knew you were gonna find out eventually, OK? 617 01:18:11,312 --> 01:18:14,282 But don't blame me for not telling you. You never wanted to know. 618 01:18:14,440 --> 01:18:15,908 Don't try and pin this on me. 619 01:18:16,066 --> 01:18:18,694 I asked you! I asked you if we were living near the house! 620 01:18:18,861 --> 01:18:22,115 You asked me if we were living two houses down from a crime scene. 621 01:18:22,281 --> 01:18:23,908 - Don't you dare! - I said no. 622 01:18:24,074 --> 01:18:26,543 - We never should have come here! - Tracy, nobody died here. 623 01:18:26,744 --> 01:18:29,042 It's not like we're sleeping where somebody was killed 624 01:18:29,205 --> 01:18:31,674 or they had to wipe blood off the walls for the open house. 625 01:18:31,832 --> 01:18:35,336 - You're saying it didn't happen here'? - No. It happened in the backyard. 626 01:18:35,502 --> 01:18:39,006 That is so sick! God, you think that makes a difference'? 627 01:18:39,173 --> 01:18:41,471 - It does. - No, Ellison. It doesn't. 628 01:18:41,634 --> 01:18:43,682 You have done some crazy shit in the past. 629 01:18:43,844 --> 01:18:45,391 But this definitely takes the cake. 630 01:18:45,554 --> 01:18:47,898 My God. what on earth possessed you to move here'? 631 01:18:48,057 --> 01:18:50,480 - We've never been this broke before. - That's no excuse. 632 01:18:50,684 --> 01:18:52,561 This place came on the market. It was a steal. 633 01:18:52,728 --> 01:18:55,402 Gee, I wonder why. 634 01:18:55,564 --> 01:18:58,568 So what Trevor drew last week. That happened here? 635 01:19:00,027 --> 01:19:01,074 Yes. 636 01:19:01,237 --> 01:19:05,788 The previous owners of this home were hung from a tree in our backyard? 637 01:19:05,950 --> 01:19:08,419 - Yes. - That is so sick. Ellison. 638 01:19:08,577 --> 01:19:10,921 And you let our little girl play back there? 639 01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:12,127 Why shouldn't I? 640 01:19:12,289 --> 01:19:14,337 Our son is having night terrors 641 01:19:14,500 --> 01:19:16,719 and drawing pictures of this crime at school. 642 01:19:16,877 --> 01:19:19,096 And our daughterjust painted a dead girl on our wall. 643 01:19:19,255 --> 01:19:21,758 She's missing. Technically she's missing. 644 01:19:21,924 --> 01:19:24,302 I don't wanna hear about technicalities. 645 01:19:24,468 --> 01:19:26,061 Do you understand what you've done, 646 01:19:26,220 --> 01:19:29,269 the kind of jeopardy you've put your children in, your marriage'? 647 01:19:29,431 --> 01:19:30,523 Yes, I do! 648 01:19:30,683 --> 01:19:34,483 Is there anything you won't do for your goddamn book? 649 01:19:37,356 --> 01:19:40,155 Apparently not. I guess this is all worth it to you. 650 01:19:40,317 --> 01:19:42,411 - It's worth it. - Putting your family at risk. 651 01:19:42,569 --> 01:19:45,573 - Risk of what'? Of more paintings? - Don't. Your daughter... 652 01:19:45,739 --> 01:19:47,412 My daughter has a father who loves her, 653 01:19:47,574 --> 01:19:50,453 who is always around, who encourages her to be herself. 654 01:19:50,619 --> 01:19:52,542 The worst thing that has ever happened to her 655 01:19:52,705 --> 01:19:55,458 is one time she moved into a house where a family was killed. 656 01:19:55,624 --> 01:19:58,719 She found out about the murders. So she felt sorry for the little girl. 657 01:19:58,877 --> 01:20:01,175 So she painted a fucking picture! 658 01:20:01,338 --> 01:20:04,808 That's what she does. It's what she always has done. 659 01:20:04,967 --> 01:20:07,937 - That's it'? That's all you have to say'? - What else do you want from me? 660 01:20:08,095 --> 01:20:11,474 How about a home where we feel safe, Ellison? 661 01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:13,642 How about neighbours that don't hate us 662 01:20:13,809 --> 01:20:17,609 in a town where I can buy groceries without getting strange looks? 663 01:20:17,771 --> 01:20:20,490 L-low about a life that doesn't involve our kids 664 01:20:20,649 --> 01:20:24,324 drawing and painting the sick details of some horrific tragedy 665 01:20:24,528 --> 01:20:27,122 or working out their deep-seated anxieties 666 01:20:27,281 --> 01:20:28,908 by doing bizarre shit in the night? 667 01:20:29,074 --> 01:20:33,045 - How about that? Would that be OK? - I can give all that to you, I can! 668 01:20:33,203 --> 01:20:36,798 - Just when I finish the book! - This book isn't for us. It's for you. 669 01:20:36,957 --> 01:20:38,880 Tracy, don't say that. That's not true. 670 01:20:39,043 --> 01:20:42,092 It is true. There are plenty of other ways you can provide for this family. 671 01:20:42,296 --> 01:20:45,015 Doing What? Teaching? 672 01:20:45,174 --> 01:20:47,723 Editing journalism textbooks? 673 01:20:47,885 --> 01:20:54,439 Don't you understand that writing is what gives my life meaning? 674 01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:57,820 These books are my legacy. 675 01:21:01,065 --> 01:21:04,786 I have always supported you doing what you love. Ellison. 676 01:21:04,943 --> 01:21:07,696 But writing isn't the meaning of your life. 677 01:21:08,739 --> 01:21:13,336 You and me, right here, this marriage' that's the meaning of your life. 678 01:21:13,535 --> 01:21:17,256 And your legacy, that's Ashley and Trevor. 679 01:21:17,414 --> 01:21:20,133 Your kids are your legacy. 680 01:21:33,097 --> 01:21:36,522 - Did I get Daddy in trouble? - No. sweetie. 681 01:21:36,683 --> 01:21:38,777 Your daddy got Daddy in trouble. 682 01:21:38,936 --> 01:21:42,861 - I'm sorry I painted on the wall. - I know. 683 01:21:43,023 --> 01:21:45,117 You get a good night's sleep. 684 01:21:51,740 --> 01:21:55,790 So here's the book / wrote proving it. right? 685 01:21:55,953 --> 01:21:56,954 Exactly' 686 01:21:57,121 --> 01:22:01,092 Kidding aside. would you want a family? is that in the cards? 687 01:22:01,250 --> 01:22:02,297 / don't know' 688 01:22:02,459 --> 01:22:05,508 If you'd asked me a year ago. I might have said no. never. I'm a career man 689 01:22:05,712 --> 01:22:09,091 But you know how it goes-You meet someone. you get a lift/e older. 690 01:22:09,258 --> 01:22:11,727 All of a sudden. your career doesn't seem to matter so much' 691 01:22:11,885 --> 01:22:16,311 You want kids. you star? to see other people with kids and think "/ vvant that" 692 01:22:16,473 --> 01:22:20,103 aho' then you wonder "Is he gonna look like me? Is she gonna look fike her?" 693 01:22:20,310 --> 01:22:22,404 You paint rooms in your head and.“ 694 01:22:33,532 --> 01:22:35,205 Time for bed. 695 01:24:45,706 --> 01:24:47,800 What is happening'? 696 01:25:50,896 --> 01:25:52,990 Shit. 697 01:26:14,002 --> 01:26:15,219 Shit. 698 01:27:14,104 --> 01:27:17,108 - What the hell are you doing? - We have to leave here. 699 01:27:18,233 --> 01:27:20,361 What's the matter? What's happened'? 700 01:27:20,527 --> 01:27:22,621 You were right. 701 01:27:23,864 --> 01:27:27,619 I made a mistake. We should have never come to this house. 702 01:27:27,784 --> 01:27:31,459 - We have to leave now. - Ell. you're freaking me out here. 703 01:27:31,621 --> 01:27:35,626 Get the kids. pack the car. We have to leave. 704 01:27:36,877 --> 01:27:38,971 Go! 705 01:28:23,924 --> 01:28:27,303 - Honey, slow down. - I just wanna get on the highway. 706 01:28:27,469 --> 01:28:30,939 I wanna put as much road between us and this town as we can. OK? 707 01:28:31,097 --> 01:28:32,269 OK. 708 01:28:32,432 --> 01:28:35,106 - Where are we going, Daddy? - We're going home, honey. 709 01:28:35,268 --> 01:28:39,614 - Home, home, like you promised? - Yeah. Home, like I promised. 710 01:28:40,649 --> 01:28:42,492 What about our stuff? 711 01:28:42,651 --> 01:28:45,074 We're gonna call the movers in the morning, all right? 712 01:29:00,627 --> 01:29:02,755 It's OK. 713 01:29:13,098 --> 01:29:15,772 - Evening, Oswalts. - Sheriff. 714 01:29:16,852 --> 01:29:19,981 - Licence and registration. - God. 715 01:29:23,567 --> 01:29:27,413 Driving pretty fast for this time of night don't you think? 716 01:29:27,571 --> 01:29:30,120 Anything I ought to know about? 717 01:29:30,282 --> 01:29:32,831 Just trying to take your advice. That's all. 718 01:29:33,034 --> 01:29:36,914 - Which advice would that be? - Leave town and never look back. 719 01:29:44,087 --> 01:29:47,557 - You weren't bullied away or anything? - I'm sorry? 720 01:29:47,716 --> 01:29:50,139 What I mean is, I don't wanna be reading in your book 721 01:29:50,302 --> 01:29:53,806 that angry town folks chased you out of here. 722 01:29:53,972 --> 01:29:56,600 If you've been mistreated, I wanna know about it. 723 01:29:56,766 --> 01:29:58,643 There isn't gonna be any book. 724 01:29:59,394 --> 01:30:01,613 No book? 725 01:30:01,771 --> 01:30:03,865 No, sir. 726 01:30:07,694 --> 01:30:13,451 Well. then. I don't see any reason for me to have your autograph. 727 01:30:14,326 --> 01:30:18,422 Just one more favour. Hold it under 6O till you cross the county line. 728 01:30:18,580 --> 01:30:21,208 Until you're somebody else's problem. 729 01:30:22,584 --> 01:30:24,678 Yes, sir. 730 01:30:25,795 --> 01:30:27,763 Did you mean that? 731 01:30:27,923 --> 01:30:30,472 About the book'? Yeah. 732 01:30:31,843 --> 01:30:33,937 You promise? 733 01:30:34,721 --> 01:30:35,768 I promise. 734 01:30:39,517 --> 01:30:41,611 Let's go home. 735 01:30:58,536 --> 01:31:00,709 This goes in the office, right in there on the right. 736 01:31:00,872 --> 01:31:02,670 [E] 737 01:31:04,709 --> 01:31:07,963 Hey, Ell, 1O bucks says Trevor sleeps through the night. 738 01:31:08,129 --> 01:31:10,302 No, I'm not taking that bet. 739 01:32:01,558 --> 01:32:04,107 Mr Oswa/t. sorry it took so long to get back to you. 740 01:32:04,269 --> 01:32:06,567 There's been so little written on Bug/vuu/ 741 01:32:06,730 --> 01:32:10,030 that no one has actually bothered to scan any of this material before' 742 01:32:10,191 --> 01:32:13,195 - Well, what am I looking at? - You're looking at an engraving' 743 01:32:13,361 --> 01:32:17,116 An old sketch from the Dark Ages. And fragments of a deteriorated fresco' 744 01:32:17,282 --> 01:32:19,831 There isn't a lot left. Everything else has been destroyed' 745 01:32:19,993 --> 01:32:21,586 - Why? - Well. superstition' 746 01:32:21,745 --> 01:32:26,376 Early Christians believed that Bughuul actually lived in the images themselves 747 01:32:26,541 --> 01:32:29,010 and that they were gateways into his realm. 748 01:32:30,420 --> 01:32:31,637 - Gateways? - Yes. 749 01:32:31,796 --> 01:32:34,219 The ancient Church believed that he would take possession 750 01:32:34,424 --> 01:32:38,850 of those who saw the images and cause them to do terrible things. 751 01:32:39,012 --> 01:32:43,358 Or in some cases he could even abduct the viewer into the images themselves. 752 01:32:43,516 --> 01:32:46,065 Children exposed to the images 753 01:32:46,227 --> 01:32:50,903 were especially vulnerable to Bughuu/s possession and/or abduction' 754 01:32:51,066 --> 01:32:54,286 - What if you destroyed 'em'? - Sorry. I don't fol/ 755 01:32:54,444 --> 01:32:58,074 If you destroyed the images with a fire. What would happen then? 756 01:32:58,239 --> 01:33:01,334 What, do you mean literally or in the stories? 757 01:33:01,493 --> 01:33:04,463 In the stories if an image was destroyed, 758 01:33:04,662 --> 01:33:06,130 then the gateway would be closed 759 01:33:06,289 --> 01:33:10,294 and Bughuul would no longer have access to this world, right? 760 01:33:10,460 --> 01:33:15,808 Mr Oswa/t. what kind of book are you writing exactly? 761 01:33:18,301 --> 01:33:22,181 I don't know. I'm not even sure I have a book any more. 762 01:33:22,388 --> 01:33:25,312 - But thank you for your time. - Anytime. 763 01:33:38,863 --> 01:33:41,582 [E] 764 01:35:19,339 --> 01:35:20,761 All right. 765 01:35:30,767 --> 01:35:32,861 [E] 766 01:35:37,941 --> 01:35:39,901 - You know what time it is'? - I know. f??? sorry. 767 01:35:40,068 --> 01:35:41,911 But I've been trying to call you all day. 768 01:35:42,111 --> 01:35:45,035 - What's the problem? - OK' the prob/em is that you moved 769 01:35:45,240 --> 01:35:46,958 How is that a problem? 770 01:35:47,116 --> 01:35:49,539 I was compiling all of the data that you had me coflecting 771 01:35:49,702 --> 01:35:52,626 and once I started putting it together into a nice readable package, 772 01:35:52,789 --> 01:35:54,336 I saw the connect/on, it was obvious. 773 01:35:54,499 --> 01:35:57,378 - What was it? - The dates, the addresses. 774 01:35:57,543 --> 01:35:59,136 Each family that you had me look up 775 01:35:59,295 --> 01:36:03,596 had previously lived in the house where one of the ear/fer Im/rders took place. 776 01:36:03,758 --> 01:36:06,102 Each family? All five of them? 777 01:36:06,261 --> 01:36:09,561 Yes. and when you put them in chronological order, 778 01:36:09,722 --> 01:36:12,817 you can actually draw a line from murder to nvurder to nvurder' 779 01:36:12,976 --> 01:36:15,274 OK, we knew that the Stevensons previously lived 780 01:36:15,436 --> 01:36:18,815 in the same St Louis house where the Millers had their throats cut. 781 01:36:18,982 --> 01:36:20,484 Before the M/I/er family was killed. 782 01:36:20,692 --> 01:36:22,820 The Millers lived in the same house in Orange County 783 01:36:22,986 --> 01:36:25,114 where the De Luzio fawn massacre occurred. 784 01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:28,409 Guess where the De Luz/os lived before they moved to Orange County? 785 01:36:28,574 --> 01:36:31,794 Sacramento where the Martinez family was burned in their garage? 786 01:36:31,953 --> 01:36:35,924 Exactly. The pattern goes back to the 1966 Oregon drovvn/ngs' 787 01:36:36,082 --> 01:36:39,086 Listen. Mr Oswa/t, you just moved out of the last house in fine 788 01:36:39,252 --> 01:36:41,004 if this guy is still out there. 789 01:36:41,170 --> 01:36:45,050 You not on/yjust sped up his time/me, you put yourself in it. 790 01:36:46,426 --> 01:36:48,520 Thanks, Deputy. 791 01:37:29,802 --> 01:37:30,974 Stephanie. 792 01:37:51,491 --> 01:37:54,165 It's the missing kids. 793 01:39:16,534 --> 01:39:19,534 I like that you made the movies longer. They're better this way.