[Shaun] Previously on 90 Day Fiance: Happily Ever After?
Tell All: No Limits...
Ed and Liz is over, now I move on with Liz and Jayson.
[chuckles] We're not going to bed.
[laughter]
[gasps, squeals]
Aah! Okay. Whoo!
They want to make a scene.
[Liz] Good night, ladies.
[screaming and laughing]
Yeah, he can have her.
[Liz laughs]
You know, Jasmine and I, we had a conversation
after the Tell All today privately,
and it was the first time we've made progress, actually, in months.
[Jasmine speaking]
-There it is. There it is. -[squeals]
-You love to see it. -Tonight, tonight!
-[whooping] -[Rob] Hell, yeah.
[Loren] So, Ed...
You think you're better than everybody,
but to call me a [bleep] bottom feeder?
I don't think so.
You don't even own what you said to me--
I'm looking at you telling you I don't like you!
Just keep your comments about me to yourself.
Angela, Michael, is it true that you haven't been intimate
since Michael stepped foot in America?
We sure haven't.
I can't believe you're saying this [bleep]
You cheated and told that bitch
you would come to Goddamn America and get the visa
and you'll handle me!
[dramatic music playing]
Send me back home!
That's the last [bleep] time you'll say that.
[bleep] what is it?
-That's the last time. You heard it? -Send me back home.
You heard that, didn't you?
I want you to admit you have a lying problem.
[Skyla] All the time.
-What did I lie again? -[Skyla] You lie all the time, Michael.
You get called out and then you stick with that lie
and think, "If I say it enough, everybody's going to believe it."
He say he did something, "Oh, I mopped the floor."
Go in there, it's not mopped. "Yes, I did."
You know what I mean? But he'll sit there and he'll just--
He'll gaslight me and gaslight-- to make me think
maybe he didn't, and then I know he did,
and I'm [bleep] confused because I wanted him here.
I fought hard, I worked hard.
When I tell you I worked hard, did I not [bleep] bust my ass?
Three jobs to go over there and for three years
-to have him. -[Skyla] Yeah.
You understand exactly what you told that girl.
You messed with my [bleep] head!
Yeah, sure you would! [bleeping]
Listen, listen!
You're caught. This is why you never talk like this.
You know what you're doing? You're sitting on my Goddamn couch waiting.
You know what he tells me? "I need the green card."
[bleep]
I'm living a married life by myself,
and I'm the only one fighting for this marriage, Shaun.
Angela, the relationship hasn't been good since he landed here in the States.
Why?
I'm sorry. I'll sit down.
[Shaun] Yeah. You can go sit by your daughter.
So the problems, Angela, have not...
they didn't start when he got here.
Obviously, they were the same problems
you were dealing with before.
You brought him here
because why?
Well, then why would you bring him here?
Why would you do that?
Because I love him more than he loves me.
I know, I know. But you're torturing yourself.
-[Angela] I know. -You're torturing yourself.
[Thais] I know!
You don't think I hate myself?
Don't hate yourself.
-Don't do that. -Aww!
-Don't say that. -[Ed] Don't say that.
Ange, we all see how hurt you are.
-[Thais] Yeah. -We all see that.
-We can see that. -But why don't he see it?
I don't know.
He can't. He can't see it.
The answers to your question, Ed, is she found out the lying about the chats,
the piggy bank, all that, and right when she found out about that,
that carried over here, and it hasn't been resolved yet.
Because he don't talk about it.
He just rolls his eyes and throws his head up.
[Shaun] Let's talk about that.
Angela became enraged when she looked
through Michael's phone and found he was part
of an online chat group called Paradise Men.
Let's take a look.
Let me see your phone.
Paradise Men?
Let's check this [bleep] out.
No, you're a paradise man, group administrator.
You-- You're the group administrator?
Listen.
-This is how we live. -You have no Goddamn business helping any [bleep].
I come to Nigeria, all the way to here to be made a fool of again!
[Shaun] Um, Michael?
Tell me, why were you a part of this group?
I was in a group chat like him.
-You were in a group chat? -[Thais] Yeah.
Yeah. Let me ask any of the foreigners here.
Has anybody done that before?
Yeah. Like, I was in a group with a bunch of British people who had spouse--
uh, partners in America,
and it's a group to help,
like, if we had a question about the process, I'd be like,
"Hey, what do I do on this section?
Yeah.
I think it looks like he was trying to save money.
Uh, we tried that, too. I tried.
There you go, together.
You didn't sneak behind his back?
-No. -You didn't sit there and become administrator?
Did you do it behind his back?
I was kind of suspicious when I first saw it--
-[Angela] But she explained it, right? -Yeah.
[Angela] There you go.
Okay. All right. Well, trust has always been a key struggle
in Angela and Michael's relationship,
but we finally saw it hit a tipping point when Angela hired outside help.
Angela, would you like to tell Michael who you hired?
I hired a private investigator.
[Ed] Smartest thing you could have done.
Michael, were you aware that Angela hired a private investigator?
No, no.
[Shaun] Well, let's take a look at that moment
when Angela hired her PI to investigate Michael.
So since you and Michael have been together for like seven years, right?
Why are you coming to me now?
Well, um, recently in Ivory Coast,
I found some [bleep] that's beyond my belief.
[man] Like what?
I found a girl who was supposed to be part of the chat group
he was helping named Cheetah.
-Do you know anything about this Cheetah? -That is [bleep] up.
His explanation is he's helping her and her husband
so they can get their visa and be together.
And I'm thinking, first of all,
"[bleep] you can't get your own Goddamn visa."
I've got a network that's got a long reach, all the way around the world.
I've got people over in Nigeria
that can try to extract all the communication.
And it doesn't matter if it's been deleted.
[exclaims]
-I'm getting scared now. -I'll get everything off the internet.
If you prove he's really scamming me, he's going home one way or another.
I'm willing to quit. Give it up. Gone.
Okay, uh, Michael, how do you feel after seeing that?
And Angela, have you had a chance to speak
with the investigator about his findings?
I want the private detector to prove that I'm wrong.
I want it to be wrong.
I want to be so [bleep] wrong.
He has no idea.
[Rob] You guys need to know.
[Jasmine] I mean, this is a living hell.
[Shaun] Angela, as she said,
has not spoken to her private investigator about his findings.
But we do have him here with us today to share what he has found.
[Ashley gasps]
[Jasmine] Oh, my God.
[Angela] I'm scared to [bleep] death.
That's why I'm shaking. I'm scared to death.
Okay, please welcome Angela's private investigator, Todd.
[bleep]
-Oh, dude, is that the FBI? -Oh, my God.
-[Todd] Hi. -[Angela] Hey, Mr. Todd.
-Thank you for coming. -Hey, Ms. Angela.
-How are you? Thank you so much. -Thank you.
[Shaun] Todd, this is Michael.
How are you doing, Michael? Todd.
Nice to meet you.
[giggling]
So, Todd, thank you very much for being here.
Thank you.
You've heard Michael's explanation for a number of the things
that upset Angela.
Anything he said today made your ears perk up?
There seemed to be some indiscretions here
from what I've learned in his past.
And certainly Angela does have a reason to be
questioning some of Michael's behavior.
Okay. Is everybody interested in what Todd has to say?
[indistinct chatter]
Okay. All right, Todd, tell us about your findings.
Well, if I may do so, I'd like to direct some questions to Michael.
After an exhaustive study of you.
Look, I've got a 189-page report.
Almost every single thing
that's ever been mentioned about you on the internet.
It took a staff of about five investigators
to dig all the information up that we have.
So if there's anything that you want to disclose,
now would be a great time to do that.
Okay?
When I try to explain to my wife,
she never gave me a chance to finish talking.
Michael has got a way to make even you believe it.
Everybody can't believe your opinion, for Christ's sake.
We're going to go on facts then, [bleep] their opinions.
In the last two days, I've walked in the bathroom,
the toilet is not flushed.
It is just consideration.
It was pee, by the way.
I didn't flush the pee at 2:00 in the morning.
-Oh, I do that. -Yeah, we all do that.
-[laughter] -Oh, no!
What?
[dramatic music playing]
If there's anything that you want to disclose,
now would be a great time to do that, okay?
No, no.
So, first, you have a presence, if you will, on social media.
So how many Facebook accounts do you have?
I only have one.
Which my wife controls.
Do you participate any on Instagram?
Oh, my God!
Not at all.
I'm sure that you have three Instagram accounts.
You mother [bleep]!
-I have no-- [scoffs] -[Todd] You're not familiar with those?
I'm not familiar with it.
People imitates me.
The only social me that I have is the Facebook...
All right, so let me give you a couple of names
and you can just give me an explanation
of where these people may or may not fit in your life.
Uh, I've heard that it's been mentioned about a female by the name of Cheetah.
See, this is something new to me, Todd.
-That ain't what he told us, is it? -[Michael] Let me talk!
When I try to explain to my wife,
she never give me a chance to finish talking.
Michael has got a way to make even you believe him.
He's such a liar!
[Shaun] Okay. Todd, have you found anything
in your investigation of Michael,
that leads you to believe he has been unfaithful to Angela?
I have one particular woman that we uncovered...
[gasps]
...and I'm not positive what that relationship is with him.
[bleep]
I'd like to give Michael an opportunity to explain it.
Okay, please do.
Who is this person?
[Todd] This one came up in question because he's known this person for quite a while.
Her name is, uh...
[bleeping]
Todd, what raises a red flag about this woman?
I have a chart of all of his connections,
his social connections, and I understand I don't.
[Angela] Holy [bleep]!
I don't-- She's not blood-related, though.
No, no. No blood-related.
Like someone that knows my family and I know her family.
-She's 36 or so... -[bleep].
...way back.
Angela, I think if he was cheating or scamming, it would be very easy.
-to just say that's what it is. -[Angela] You don't know
a Nigerian like him. He is good at what he does.
That chart, that's a lot of people,
and if there's not somebody on that chart right there
that pops out like, "Oh, yeah, we have evidence that you've been really going hard."
The only person he explained is a friend.
Yeah.
-Listen, it's friendly. -No.
Do you know the girl he was cheating with?
How about, she was trying to get ahold of Gino? I didn't want to say that.
Yeah, you didn't answer her.
She was trying to get you.
I got facts of it. He didn't answer her
The same one that cheated with Michael,
she was after this one and Michael-- Listen, Jazz.
Michael fell for it.
Gino didn't.
Okay, hold on just a second, Angela.
Okay.
Todd, is there anything about this woman
that has raised a red flag?
Does anything tell you
that Michael is cheating on Angela in any way?
I've got 160 pages of reports.
To answer your question directly,
no, there's not.
-Okay. -Good.
I don't care!
Skyla, going home. Y'all enjoy.
I don't care what y'all think about me
because I know the real [bleep].
But he's not better than the private investigator, though--
[Angela] You know why? We didn't have enough time to get it all.
This ain't-- He ain't had enough time.
Michael, you shut [bleep] up! You shut [bleep] up!
-Skyla. -Yes.
I'm going out. Skyla, go sit down.
[sighs]
[Shaun] Okay.
[Angela] I ain't doing this no more.
If he was, say, if it was such a nice thing,
he would say, Sorry, I should have told you.
He ain't said none of that [bleep], man!
Y'all, I'm [bleep]!
[continues indistinctly]
[speaking Spanish]
[in English] Okay, everybody, settle down for a second.
Okay. Skyla, your mom said
that if the private investigator did not find any evidence
of Michael cheating, that she would trust him.
Do you think that she should after what Todd has shared?
Yeah.
But I still think she need to leave him.
There's... there's no...
[clears throat] There's no intimacy.
There's no relationship there.
You know what I mean? Like...
Listen, every time that I look around
and I see these two people, it's him being quiet
and she's yelling and yelling.
[Jasmine] But the way she constantly yells at him,
I couldn't even treat a dog like that.
When it comes to, you know, her feelings,
she doesn't have any patience.
Is he lying or not?
Todd, I have a question for you.
Out of all that paperwork that you brought here with you today,
did you find anything at all
to make you suspect that Michael is scamming Angela?
Well...
I'd be sad.
-Why? We have Alessi-- -What do you mean why?
Because I don't wanna have just one kid.
[dramatic music playing]
-Todd, I have a question for you. -Yeah.
Out of all that paperwork that
you brought here with you today
did you find anything at all to make you suspect
that Michael is scamming Angela?
Skyla, you've met me.
We talked, right?
That's a lot of work.
That's a lot of digging.
That's pretty much his life...
that I've been able to uncover.
-I don't have anything. -[all exclaiming]
There you go.
I don't, I don't have anything concrete
that suggests, even implies that he is,
you know, an unethical person in terms of a relationship.
I don't.
It's not there.
[Michael speaking]
-There you go. -So you have to imagine
where he's coming from and how he feels if he really
isn't doing any of these things
that he's being accused of doing.
Yes! What I've seen today, I feel bad for him.
And I have seen that it's not only your mom,
the one yelling at him, but it's also you.
[Skyla] But y'all gotta understand,
he's already cheated.
He's constantly lies about this and that.
[Rob] I don't know what happens at home,
but I do know that what we can't do
is continue to act like he's scamming her.
[Michael speaking]
[Shaun] All right, Todd,
thank you very much for joining us.
Thank you, Todd.
[Shaun] I think you have helped us all get to the bottom
of a number of unanswered questions.
Skyla, it's been wonderful seeing you again,
and hopefully this will get better.
-[Skyla] Thank you. -[Shaun] Okay.
[Michael] Thank you, sir.
Michael, I don't know where you and Angela go from here,
but I hope this is a clean slate
for the rest of your marriage.
Thank you so much.
[Michael] Thank you.
[Shaun] Oh, boy, that was a rough one.
But it is time for lunch.
-So see you back here soon. -[all cheering]
My brother, good job.
Thank you.
[Patrick] I was, like, on the edge of my seat the whole time.
Like once that private investigator came out.
I was so involved.
Like, I didn't even wanna talk.
I was just, like, you know, "What's happening?"
Like, let me-- What's this guy about to do?
And to be honest, like, I was kind of on Angela's side
and I was like, "Man, Michael [bleep] up.
He did something wrong."
But, you know, he got his name cleared
and now I'm on his side.
Even after the proof comes out,
-it's, like, she's still holding on to it. -Yeah. She... [bleep] proof.
There's, like, literally, 200 and [bleep] 40 pages
-of nothing? -Rubbish, nonsense.
Of nothing. It took him long enough to say it, but of nothing.
[laughs]
I don't think anybody was truly, like,
convinced that he was doing something.
But it was actually kind of impressive.
Like, bro, you, you didn't--
You weren't prepared for this.
This dude did a deep dive into your life and came up with nothing.
[Skyla] I'm very happy that the PI
didn't find anything on Michael.
But to be honest, I think Michael did trick Mama into the relationship
to get over here, and he's just, you know,
trying to get his ducks in a row to leave.
-[Angela speaking] -Yeah.
[Angela speaking]
[Skyla speaking]
I don't see any reason why Angela should be suspicious
of Michael or his behavior.
[Angela] I've had enough.
I've just had enough.
But a concern that have is how adamant she is
about wanting to find a lie
or something wrong in the report.
It's almost like she's not willing to accept the truth.
I'm going to send his ass home.
[Michael speaking]
...it doesn't make any difference.
[Jasmine speaking]
[Sophie] It's disgusting.
[Jasmine speaking]
[Producer speaking]
[Angela speaking]
Have we had enough time to really dig?
No, we haven't!
This just happened two, three weeks ago.
I didn't know he had an uncle over here until two years ago.
A piece of [bleep] I've had enough.
I gotta go.
[Producer speaking]
-All right. -Let's go.
[man 1] Five, four, three, two...
Welcome back to 90 day fiance: Happily Ever After,
The Couple's Tell All.
Now, Angela and Michael are taking a minute.
We are going to move on
and hopefully they will join us a little later.
But right now I want to say hello to Patrick and Thais.
Thais, I understand you underwent some surgery.
Is that true?
Yes, I did.
I got my boobs done. [giggles]
-You look great. You look great. -[Thais] Thank you.
[Shaun] What went into the decision?
I mean, after the pregnancy,
my body, you know, changed a lot.
And my boobs was looking like, you know, not the same.
Was like too down.
And then that's, that's why I decided to do.
-And Patrick wanted, like bigger. -[Shaun] Whoa, Patrick.
-Really? -[Kobe speaking language]
[all laughing]
I mean, where they're at now, they're perfect.
But she was talking about getting smaller.
And what did you say?
[Thais speaking]
It's what makes you feel comfortable, honey.
-Yeah. -[Shaun] So, wait. So, Patrick, what--
What size did you tell her to get?
-I just didn't want 'em-- I didn't want 'em-- -He showed me a movie.
-No. I didn't want 'em smaller.
You showed me a movie.
[Shaun] Oh, my gosh.
[Thais] Like the, the girl doesn't have any shirt
-showing the boobs. -Oh, that's right. I showed--
[coughs]
[woman speaking] [laughs]
He showed exactly the way that he wanted my boobs.
Demi Moore in, in Striptease.
[all laughing]
It's a great movie, though.
Patrick is telling Thais to go bigger.
Alex, you were telling Loren not to do it at all.
-Yeah. I mean-- -He's not a boob guy.
I was okay with how it was.
[Thais speaking]
So, Thais, you mentioned one reason
for the surgery was the toll
that breast feeding took on your body.
-Yeah. -Does this mean more kids are off the table?
Um...
[Shaun] Patrick, how do you feel about that?
I mean, I know she's not ready to have kids now,
but I mean, I want to have more kids.
How many more do you want to have?
Until we have a boy.
So if it's just-- So if there's one, that's fine. But...
-[man speaking] -If there's 15?
Hopefully it doesn't take that long.
Well, you're gonna keep on trying.
[Thais speaking]
-And I'm not-- You know... -Well, you said five.
[Thais] Yeah...
You wanna wait, Thais, five years
-until you have another? -At least five!
Like, five to more. 'Cause--
-Loren, Loren... -That's a big difference.
Emily, can you help me out?
Once diapers are done,
you don't wanna go back to diapers.
Yes, you don't want to do five and then start over.
Yeah. I don't know. I just,
I just feel like I'm not ready,
you know, to have another kid here in this country alone.
I don't have my family around, you know?
I don't mind taking our time for another kid.
A little bit of time.
What are you talking about?
You talk about kids every day.
You feel pressured by that?
Yes, of course.
[Thais] Sometimes I avoid having sex too.
'Cause men, they, they believe
that you know that thing to pull out,
it works, and I, I don't believe that.
[man 1 speaking language]
-[man 2] Don't, don't, don't try the pull out [bleep]. -Yeah, I don't recommend that.
It doesn't work, bro.
Don't [bleep]. Don't does not work.
[all laughing]
When we talk about that, you always say, "I don't,
I don't wanna wait.
Like, what are you talking about?
I don't wanna wait like more."
[Patrick speaking]
You're 20-something years old.
I'm 40. What are we gonna talk about?
[Thais speaking]
[Shaun] Patrick, it is really interesting
-how you just stay silent a lot of the time. -[Thais] Yes.
-[Thais] I mean... -Your wife is crying next to you.
[dramatic music playing]
I'd be sad.
-Why? We have Alessi. -What do you mean why?
'Cause I don't wanna have just one kid.
-A 100%. I've always said more than one. -Okay. So, what I said?
-How many kids I said? -You said that you'd have two.
I didn't-- No.
[Thais speaking] Are you crazy?
I don't know. I don't know what she's talking about now.
Imagine me taking care of two kids...
Or even three, whatever.
And you traveling to work... Like, it's just too much.
Well, we're doing it now 'cause we have one kid and she's in daycare.
But even then, while they're at daycare,
a mom doesn't stop. Your mind is always running.
You're always doing laundry, chores, errands.
So I understand exactly what she's saying.
Day care or not, like, a mom, you're you're always on.
[Shaun] Um, Patrick, what are you currently doing for work?
I sell home security.
[Shaun] Mm-hmm.
[Patrick] I kind of travel a lot for work.
We-- I can work in Vegas,
but I choose to work in other markets
just 'cause it's a little easier.
[Shaun] Okay, so currently you're not living in Vegas?
[Thais speaking]
So right now you're living in Miami?
Yeah. Right now we're in Miami.
[Shaun] Well, that's exciting.
Thais, do you have any concerns when Patrick isn't around?
It sounds like you don't trust him when he's on the road.
I don't. I mean, I don't know.
In the past, he was saying that he was going to a dinner
and he ended up, you know,
in a club thing, type of thing,
with friends,
you know, guys that they are not marriage.
[Shaun] So when Patrick is on the road now,
you have concerns about who he's seeing?
Yeah, I think, like, with everything that happened before,
it's something that, you know, trust you still--
We're still working on it.
It's way better now, of course.
We haven't any problems when I've traveled.
Oh, because for you,
we don't have any problems. For you everything is fine.
-"No, it's fine." -Because I tell you where I'm going.
I tell you who I'm with.
And I-- You know, you've told me
what you want, and I give it to you.
You know, I always find this interesting about when,
when couples share their location.
And the requirement of sharing their location.
[man speaking foreign language]
Oh. Oh, whoa!
-So, you're saying that-- -What are you talking about?
[man speaking foreign language]
We wanna know.
[mouthing]
[laughs]
Jasmine always asks me for my location when I'm out.
And Jasmine, you wanna know where Gino is when he's out.
Absolutely.
It's not something that I track all the time, you know?
It's just, like, something that we have for safe
and then when he's traveling, I kind of use it.
Sophie had my location for years
and I didn't even know about it.
-[all exclaiming] -[all laughing]
[Shaun] Okay, well, I want to move on to another topic.
One person who is never afraid to voice their opinion
about Patrick and Thais' marriage is Patrick's brother, John.
Let's bring him out now, please.
Welcome, John.
-Hey, John. -Hey.
[all laughing]
-Welcome back to the Tell All. -Thank you. Thank you.
[Shaun] Uh, first of all, good to see you again.
Congratulations on your engagement to Megan.
How are things going in San Antonio?
Well, they're going good, you know?
We've got our ups and downs,
but like everybody else,
you know it's, it's a transition.
Now, are you also traveling with your brother for work?
I'm in Miami working, but I kind of told Megan...
[John continues speaking]
But she figured it out.
You know, location got me too, brother.
-We're all location. -[all laughing]
Everybody's got the location going on.
[Shaun] All right. I wanna talk about your trip to Brazil.
Thais hadn't seen her friends in Brazil for two years.
So it only made sense
that she would wanna catch up
with the girls on her first trip back home.
It was supposed to be a fun introduction
to Patrick and John,
but it quickly took a wrong turn.
Take a look.
No. So...
No, no, no, no, no.
We're not cheaters in our family.
[laughs]
I'm a guest in the country, and this is how I get treated?
Maybe I went a little overboard.
But you know what this girl came all of a sudden,
said I'm a bad influence on my brother.
Hell, no.
You must go down, bitch.
-Oh, my God! -[all exclaiming]
[Thais] Look the way that he talks.
-[John] So what? I'm-- -Calling, calling a woman a bitch.
Look, if, if the shoe fits.
If you're a bitch, you're a bitch.
I feel bad because, Thais, you might have triggered these.
Your friend never met John.
Didn't know anything about John.
She only said the things that you'd fed her with.
And that was what she got
everything that transpired in the table.
[John] That's why I listen to Kobe.
Man of, man of knowledge and wisdom.
Patrick, but who do you think is at fault?
Just do it, bro. Just... [whispers]
It's my fault. [all laughing]
-[John continues speaking] -[all laughing]
I'm the ass [bleep].
Get it. Take the get out of jail free card, bro.
Just take it.
I mean, John's a difficult person to deal with...
-[mouthing] -[Patrick] ...For Thais, like--
[Patrick speaking]
[John] What are you talking about?
Are you, like, delusional?
I yell at you? I don't even talk to you.
You go to our home...
I say hello.
You don't say sometimes.
You go there and then pretend I'm not there.
[sputtering]
-You know? I mean-- -It's disrespectful, like--
I have an attention deficit problem, okay?
Patrick, I mean, it is really interesting
-how you just stay silent a lot of the time. -[Thais] Yes.
Oh, I'm great at that.
-[Shaun] Yeah. -[Loren speaking]
-[Shaun] Why do you stay silent? -[Alexei speaking]
Because I love 'em both,
and I don't wanna make one upset
or the other person upset--
-The wife comes first. -I know the wife comes first.
-[Patrick speaking] -So you should have her back.
And I do have her back.
But you guys speak up for her.
She's saying I don't talk to her.
I say hello, you know? I mean--
You're 20-something years old.
I'm 40. What are we gonna talk about?
I didn't say talk. I didn't say even respect, at least.
-Like, say hi! -Where's my respect?
You don't show me any respect.
-[whispering] -You know I respect you by not saying anything to you.
-Yes. -John, I mean...
So, Patrick--
-John's-- -Patrick, your wife is crying next to you.
[Patrick speaking]
What did I say?
[sniffing]
Is this the first time that you're hearing
that Sophie actually hooked up with women?
Yeah.
[dramatic music playing]
[Shaun] Patrick, your wife is crying next to you.
[Patrick] He does. He does say it.
No, I-- No...
[Thais speaking]
Come on.
What are you talking about?
A lot of times!
[Patrick speaking]
[John laughing] I mean, that's the truth.
-But I, I still respect him. -[John speaking]
-I even say hello to him. -Respect?
Respect me?
I don't know--
[John] I gotta be honest. I cannot fall for these tears here
when it's never, like, she doesn't come
say hello to me either.
-Thais, I'm not-- It takes-- -When you go to someone's house
you'll say hi to someone.
You came on a vacation trip.
You didn't say hello when we met at the house.
-Ah, come on. -Come on.
But I have a question. Have you ever sat him down
and said, "Hey, by the way, can we have a conversation?"
You know, you tell him how you feel.
Like, "Hey, you come to my house, you're loud,
-it's great." -All the conversations go through me.
Come on, dude. She's a woman, okay?
She's old enough.
But I don't think it's Patrick's job to tell you...
It is 'cause it's his brother.
-No, no. -It's not her responsibility to have a chat with him.
Grow up. Come on.
-[Sophie] Me? -[Ed] Yes.
-How? I'm gonna say it's not her responsibility. -She's an adult.
-He should say to his brother,
you should have, you should have a chat with my wife.
I've already told John about it.
That's not confrontational.
That's-- that's not confrontational in life in general.
John's gonna do whatever John wants to.
[Rob] I think Thais feels like you don't like her.
Yeah.
-Yes. -Well, I mean, let's be honest.
She doesn't like-- It's not that I don't like her.
We just don't have anything in common.
But I mean, she-- the thing is, it goes both ways.
I acknowledge it, at least.
You know, she's acting like it doesn't exist on her part,
which is not true. It is not true.
But you two did find common ground in Brazil.
Now, Brazil was a big trip.
Thais?
Are there any plans to visit Brazil again soon?
-[Shaun] Wonderful. -Aw, yay!
-[Shaun] Aw. -Yes, like before I couldn't go
to Brazil by myself without him.
-Because-- Yeah. Yeah. -Now you can go to Brazil without Patrick.
So do you plan to go?
Yes. Yeah, I plan going somewhere.
We'll probably be back there this summer.
You mentioned you have a better support system
-in Brazil. -For sure.
-[Shaun] So... -Yeah, I have a lot of people there.
Would you think about living there permanently?
Yes.
Yeah.
-[Patrick] I would. -[Shaun] Mm-hmm.
Patrick, it almost seems like you would want to go back more than Thais.
Yeah, I mean, it just--
Especially because I want to have more kids.
You think moving back to Brazil...
would give you the chance to have kids sooner.
-Than staying in the States? -Yeah, absolutely.
I think so.
John, um, wherever Patrick is, you're not far away.
So would you think about going to Brazil?
Yeah. That one's not gonna happen.
-No? -You know, for one.
I don't think Megan would be down.
-Okay. -That would probably be an issue.
And two, you know, they don't speak much English
in that area of Brazil, you know,
so translations is kind of difficult.
Right. They could be calling you all sorts of names,
-and you wouldn't know. -I'm sure they do.
-Right.
Okay. Well, John, we appreciate, as always, how candid you are.
Thanks for joining us again. And good luck to you and Megan.
Good luck to everyone else. Thank you so much.
-Adios. -[Patrick] Bye, John.
[Thais speaking]
Patrick and Thais, thank you for your honesty,
as you navigate some difficult family issues.
We hope you continue to work through them.
Now let's direct our attention to Rob and Sophie.
Okay. We saw you break up during the season.
The question is, are you back together?
Do you want to answer that?
We're not together.
[Shaun] You are separated.
[Rob] Yeah.
-We're-- -But we're hanging out.
Oh.
[Shaun] Okay. Married?
Separated, but hanging out.
Yeah.
Are you living together?
No.
Actually,
I'm planning on moving back to Los Angeles
in probably a couple months.
-Oh wow. -[Shaun] Sophie,
does that mean you were going to be moving
back to Los Angeles in a couple months?
Um...
I don't really know.
It just seems like we bring out such bad traits of each other
sometimes, that I don't really know,
like if we can make it work at this point.
[Rob] I'm kind of in a place
where I really do feel like a husband
who's been put in the friend zone.
Any intimacy?
No.
We cuddle.
And hold hands. [laughs]
It's really childish, but like...
We just don't have sex, which I understand is a huge thing.
But we're both always unhappy.
I don't want to have sex if I'm sad,
I don't do angry sex.
I know some people like to do that, make up sex.
-I feel what you're saying. I feel what you're saying. -Yeah.
-It is a thing! -You have to have the emotional connection.
Yeah.
We love each other, but we have different love languages.
I really like to be told nice things about me
so I can feel good about myself.
And he doesn't give words of affirmation.
So I've-- I just feel [bleep] all the time.
I said for me to move in,
can you be more romantic to me and do the things I want?
And I get home and I see, like a note.
And I'm like, "Wow, he wrote me a love note."
And it was a chores list.
-And he was like, you have dishes-- -[Shaun] Oh, no!
[Rob] It was not a chores--
And I'm like, "What the [bleep]."
Please. Please.
Please.
-Please, can I say what I need to say? -Yes.
It was, "Can you do your dishes?
"Can you pick up your clothes?
"Can you put your makeup away?
"Can you flush the toilet?"
Sophie, tell me you flushed the toilet.
-I do flush the toilet. -Okay.
Rob is saying no.
-[Rob] Promise. -[Sophie] No.
Me and Sophie, because we are here right now
have been have been together for a couple of days.
In the night time at two in the morning, I don't.
And already twice in the last two days,
I've walked in the bathroom and the toilet is not flushed.
It is just consideration.
That is just,
if I ask you to do it, try to do that for me.
-I'm not saying-- -Can I say because that sounds disgusting.
Then do it.
-I wouldn't bring it up-- -Let me, let me say
-I wouldn't bring it up. -because you're trying to be-- Shut up.
It was pee, by the way.
I didn't flush the pee at 2:00 in the morning.
Oh, I do that.
-Yeah, we all do that. -[Loren] Same.
[Loren] Same.
Oh, my God.
Because we've been happy
when I used to be just as messy as I am now.
So, Sophie, why do you think you guys broke up?
I don't-- I feel like I haven't actually, like heard a reason why.
And why are we still broke up?
At the end of the day,
I've done everything that you've asked me to do,
-No you haven't! -and then you have continually moved the goalpost.
You're either delusional or you're lying,
and I think you're just delusional.
I wouldn't still be here a year and a half later--
I don't know why you're still here
-because you're delusional. -[Patrick] Actually, that might be why you're here.
-Cause I am delusional. -Yeah.
Cause I think she's gonna come back,
-but she's not. -The way you guys talk about marriage,
the way you guys act in your marriage, you guys aren't married.
I am. Cause I'm-- I really believe in it.
We're legally married, but we're not together.
If you guys are really gonna fix it,
-You're not gonna do it living in separate houses. -Right.
You guys got to stop the back and forth, just make a decision.
Well, Rob and Sophie's sex life has caused rifts in their marriage
because their needs and desires are not always in sync.
Take a look.
Oh...
Me and Rob haven't had sex in like...
It's been like six months.
-We've only been married like a year, -Yeah.
and it's like the beginning of our marriage,
the first time we moved to Austin, like,
we was fine, we was having sex.
It wasn't that regular, though. It was like twice a week.
And then after a while,
like he'd need me to, like, dress up and stuff for him to want to do it.
And I didn't because like, "What the [bleep]".
Rob's weird.
I mean, that's something cool to do every now and then.
-But if he expects you to come home -I know.
in a [bleep] Halloween costume every night,
then you need to just go jack off.
You want her to be some fantasy bitch,
that gets [bleep]. Red flag.
Something's wrong with him downstairs.
That's all I got to say.
-I just want you to be happy. -The hell?
If it's with a man, if it's with a woman.
Like I just want you to be happy.
Yeah.
I mean, have you ever thought about you with a woman?
Yeah. I've been with women, like, sexually.
Never like emotionally, like I've never been on a date with a woman.
Does Rob know about that?
No.
I've hooked up with women before.
A couple of times,
I've hooked up with women when I was like a lot younger.
And I've hidden that from Rob,
like, I should have told him, but...
When I first told Rob that I was bi,
I didn't feel the need to get into detail of like,
what I have or haven't done with women.
I just could see Rob making an issue out of it,
which, we already have so many issues.
I just didn't want to add on top of that.
[Shaun] Okay, so there is a lot to unpack there.
First of all, I want to ask you, Rob,
is this the first time that you're hearing
that Sophie actually hooked up with women?
[tense music playing]
Yeah.
[exhales]
You had a front row seat to Sophie and Rob's troubles.
We've been trying for how many months.
Or I say we, but they've been trying,
and Sophie is a very nice person, like I think--
Are you attracted to her?
[dramatic music playing]
Rob, is this the first time that you're hearing
that Sophie actually hooked up with women?
Yeah.
[exhales]
I've never heard her actually say that she has.
And I asked her if she had, and she said she hadn't.
He said, "Have you ever been with a woman?"
I said, "I've never dated a woman."
That was my exact response.
Did you-- Did you tell him that you've had sex with women before?
I've never said-- I didn't say I had sex with women.
I thought that would be the follow up question.
But he just kind of brushed it off.
So you worked around it.
Don't you think that's dishonest?
Don't you think you're evading
-He's-- -the question?
He's never brought up the fact that I'm bi,
ever in our whole marriage. It's not been an issue.
Sophie has a way of making herself
make perfect sense at my disposal.
No! I was depressed. Very [bleep] depressed.
Because of this man, and it's like, I love him.
But he really makes me feel bad about myself.
You can't have sex with your wife unless she's dressed up.
How do you think that makes me feel?
-He wants me to be someone else. -Sophie, we both know--
-And-- No. -that that is not true.
I'm sorry for not expressing
it was more than emotional with girls when I was 18 years old.
-I'm sorry, -Okay,
-I should have told you. -I'm not making it a big deal.
-And I'm sorry. -I just heard it for the first time.
And I feel like that's becoming an issue.
I don't see Rob having a problem with that.
It, it-- I do agree with Ed
saying it is dishonest in a way.
But we've addressed that.
We've addressed that.
Well, one person who has always had a lot to say
about the dynamics of Rob and Sophie's relationship
is Sophie's good friend, Kae.
Kae is with us today to shed some light on their relationship.
Please welcome Kae.
[Shaun] Hi, Kae.
-Hi. -Hi, there.
So you've been listening backstage.
-I have. -You've been ready to jump into the conversation.
-I'm finally here. -You had a front row seat
to Sophie and Rob's troubles.
What do you think is at the root of their troubles?
I don't think they know how to talk to each other.
They might love each other, and that's great.
But at the end of the day, they're not a good couple.
They don't need to be in a relationship.
We've been trying for how many months.
Or I say we, but they've been trying--
That's interesting that you said we've been trying for, okay.
She's like my best friend.
So it's like her issues.
I'm the kind of friend, like, when my friend is going through something.
I'm an empath. I feel everything they feel.
I feel their emotion.
I feel when they're sad.
I'm sad with them.
And Sophie is a very nice person, like I think--
Are you attracted to her?
[Kae exhales]
I wanna clear something up.
I'm 100% straight.
I am very, very, very straight.
-I don't care if you don't believe me. -[laughter]
I don't want-- What am I gonna do with some titties?
Like, I don't-- It's just not my thing.
-I'm straight. -Okay.
I'm just a really good friend, and it makes me sad
that people are gonna sit here,
and assume that I'm bisexual because I let her move in.
I'm just a really good friend,
and if you don't have a friend like that, become that friend.
The reason she moved in...
was because it was getting really bad.
I can't tell you how many times she's calling me crying.
I mean, you're biased because you're her friend.
-No, that's not-- -Nobody's here to defend Rob, and it's [bleep]
I am not biased.
-I put myself-- I'm talking, Ed. -And-- and that's--
-Okay. -I have put myself
in so many situations.
You were not there the whole time,
so I really don't care for everyone else's opinions
because you weren't in that situation with me.
So, Rob, what response do you have?
-How do you feel? -I appreciate you asking me,
because I wasn't gonna cut her off.
So I've taken accountability a lot. Often.
Can I say something, though?
-It's one thing to take his turn to talk-- -No, I just started talking.
[Kae] Okay.
[Rob sighs]
I'm not gonna sit here and...
say that Sophie is not valid in being upset.
Things were not great at home for me or for Sophie.
She just took the easy route,
which was to go live with somebody who asked nothing of her.
[Ed] You enable her.
How do I enable her?
-Please explain. -You just said--
[Sophie] Okay, but can I say,
not flushing your pee at 2:00 in the morning
is not an excuse to scream at your wife.
I'm sorry, but why is everyone like, "The toilet".
The two meanest things.
The two meanest--
[Rob] It's like, yes, I know.
I pushed her away, and I have been so sorry for that.
I don't know what else to do.
[Shaun] Okay.
Uh during a rough patch in their marriage,
Rob celebrated his birthday without Sophie.
Take a look.
Oh, God.
-Are you ready, Rob? -I'm ready.
Happy [bleep] birthday, Rob.
[bleep] happy birthday.
Hello. Hi. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Happy birthday.
Exactly.
It's your birthday.
Y'all trying to set me up.
I'm in a very complicated situation.
Well I'm like, I'm still not trying to--
Hola.
Don't, don't. Don't doubt me now.
You don't start off about doubting me.
-All right? -Okay.
[Shaun] Sophie.
That's the first time that you saw that, right?
I need, like, one second, honestly.
I'm not, I'm not-- I'm like--
[clears throat]
I don't want to comment on it in this moment.
[Emily] Did you go back in there?
-Okay, let's be clear. -I'm just saying, they didn't show.
I mean, it's the club I went back in the club, yes.
But like, what was the point?
If you do love Sophie, why are you talking to this half naked girl?
All right.
Why was I talking to this half naked girl?
Sophie's told me 10 times, go [bleep] somebody else because I'm not going to.
And she's basically distanced herself from me so far,
that I have, like, almost next to nothing.
But at the end of the day, yeah, I was at a club, I was drunk.
I'm, like, hanging out, these girls are throwing themselves at me.
And, yes, there is that thought in the back of my mind.
It's like, man,
I almost feel like, I would-- like I'm not wrong.
Because Sophie has made it very clear that I wouldn't be wrong.
I was enjoying the attention, but that's where it ended.
Okay, did you get her details?
-No. -So you never got her details?
No, I didn't get her number.
-You swear to me you never got her details? -Yeah.
Yeah.
I've seen that bitch on his Instagram.
[gasps]
[dramatic music playing]
Sophie.
Are you committed to making this relationship work?
[dramatic music playing]
I've seen that bitch on his Instagram.
[gasps]
She found me on Instagram.
I followed back, yeah, because I did meet her.
But that's the-- That's as deep as it goes.
Have you corresponded on social media?
We've talked about next to nothing. We don't talk.
So why did you just tell me, and you swore.
That I did not get her information.
You asked me, did I get her information.
In the video we just watched--
I said, "Did you get her details?", he said no.
Sophie, do you consider that cheating, though?
Like real honest question.
I don't know if I would--
-If Manuel went to a club, and the girl was like, -No.
-"You're so handsome." -Hell no. Hell no.
-Like, is that a trick question? -Hell no. Hell to the naw,
to the naw naw naw.
But I also wouldn't have moved out on him for nine months, either.
-Like I wouldn't have left him for nine months. -And told him,
-"You should go talk to other women." -Okay.
No! That was not how it happened.
No, that's not how it happened.
The reality is,
she said, "I am not ready to come home and work our [bleep] out.
But I don't want to be done."
[Sophie] Whatever the situation is, you just lied to me.
I asked him, what, three times?
And I said, "Do you swear you didn't get her details?" Yeah.
-I did not get her number that night. -We're talking
-So you asking me-- -about Instagram.
You got her-- It doesn't matter if you got her number,
her Facebook. You still have her Instagram.
Which means you have a way to contact her.
-The question, to me, sounded like-- -That's the issue.
[Sophie] He's a very smart man,
-but he likes to act dumb in these situations. -I'm not acting dumb.
He knows exactly what the [bleep] that is.
[Ashley] Looking at everything, Sophie.
You left. You're still gone.
You have no intentions of going back.
Rob has made it clear he's waiting.
I have moved. I have-- Okay.
Imma just say, like, why I moved out.
If you're freshly married for one, you should be [bleep] your wife.
I don't care. He wasn't.
He then told me things like, "For me to have sex with you,
you need to be something else."
-No. -I was not-- Shut up.
Can I? You can speak after me.
So I was feeling insecure. I had self-esteem issues.
And then I was like, "Please, can we go on dates?"
He never took me on one date.
Not one day after we got married, for months.
He left me in the house. I had depression.
That's why I wasn't tidying up, I'll admit it.
It was bad because I was bad.
I was not leaving my bed.
And it was a difficult time for me.
Anyway, my mom was there for me,
and Rob was stressed,
and I understand, like, it's difficult.
I want to speak. I don't want [bleep] cry.
-[Shaun] It's okay. -[Emily] Yeah.
Take a minute.
[Alexei] Take a breather.
We're starting to understand now.
-[Sophie] Okay. -It makes a lot of sense.
I understand it's difficult to take care of an immigrant, right?
It's hard.
I understand he was stressed.
However, I was really unhappy.
I was so unhappy, and that's why I ended up moving out.
He has changed, and I see that now,
and that's why I'm still like,
like, [sobs] I'm sorry.
Are you okay?
It's like, I wanna say my [bleep] part.
And I understand for him, that must have been difficult.
And it was just very difficult for both of us.
Sophie,
are you committed to making this relationship work?
[Sophie sniffling]
[whispering]
It's like I don't think we're good for each other, to be honest.
I think we both bring out the worst in each other.
I think Rob is an amazing person and everyone can see that.
He's a lovely guy.
But me and him together, it's like... we're not good.
[Shaun] So, Rob, you heard what Sophie just said.
She doesn't think that you're good together.
Honestly, I've been willing to try as long as she was,
and if she's not, then that's just it is what it is.
Therapy is the last thing that we haven't really tried, but everything else...
We've done everything. Everything possible.
[Jasmine] It might be beneficial.
At least you can walk away with a peace of mind
that you tried everything that was in your power to make it work,
and if not, at least that's gonna be your closure as a married couple.
[Shaun] And with that, I'm going to say goodbye to Kae.
We really appreciate you coming and sharing your thoughts
-on Rob and Sophie's relationship. -[Kae] Yes.
We can see that you really care about Sophie. Thank you so much.
-Thank you for having me. -[Shaun] Okay.
Well, Rob and Sophie, obviously, relationships are never simple,
but we do hope you can work through these issues together.
Okay, on that note, we are going to break for today.
Have a great night at the house,
and I will see you back here tomorrow.
-[all cheering and applauding] -[Thais] Yeah! We did it!
[Alexei groans]
[Sophie] You have shown your true colors,
and you're very, very fake and calculated--
Oh, man, this is actually who I've been to you for over a year and a half.
This is who I've been to you for over a year and a half
and the problem is you don't care.
-I can show you who you've been to me. -You don't see it.
-You've been a [bleep]. -I have not.
I was an [bleep] two years ago
-and that is not who I've been to you-- -[Sophie] Doesn't matter.
If you killed someone a year and a half ago, Are you no longer a murderer?
I didn't kill anyone, Sophie.
-I did not kill anyone. -It's a dramatic example
of "It doesn't take away what you did just because it wasn't now."
-But the effort since should. -The effort is nothing. The effort is nada.
All right, then, why do you even keep [bleep] talking to me?
The effort is nil.
All right, then. Leave me alone, then.
[Sophie] The effort is literally nonexistent.
[Rob] Then leave me the [bleep] alone.
[Sophie] You leave me the [bleep] alone!
-You're the one not leaving me alone! -[Rob] All right!
Why are you still talking to me?
[Sophie] Fine. Leave me alone.
Rob keeps thinking I don't let go of the past,
but he was definitely trying to shift the focus
on small things that I've done to, like, deflect the blame off, like, his huge actions.
Do I want a divorce right now?
No.
Is there a possibility after today?
Yes.
It's very difficult because...
Like, I can't see Rob not in my life.
I'm more ready to give up than Rob.
But I don't buy his [bleep].
I don't.
I just feel like he loves that lifestyle.
Where he loves talking to girls, he loves the attention,
he loves being told how handsome he is. He loves it.
It took months and months to even be, like, okay with some girl in my ear.
It doesn't look great, but it's like--
No, it does not look good.
But it's like at the same time,
she has cut off the intimacy from me.
I mean, that's true, too.
But she's hurt. She's like Gino.
Like, if you're hurt, you don't wanna be intimate.
[Sophie] I saw a side to Rob I've never seen,
and he was like a player.
When she said, like, if he was in a relationship or something,
"It's very complicated."
-Bitch, you say you're married, period. Okay? -[Thais] Yeah.
You don't have to give an explanation
-to a whore that you just met. -[Thais] No.
[Sophie] I don't think I can trust him. Especially after seeing that?
[Sophie] I didn't like Jasmine at all before this
because she looks crazy from what I've seen.
But now I've seen her as a person,
she's actually someone I probably like the most.
so focused on the fact
that I don't flush at night and I'm messy.
It's so strange. A lot of people do a lot more [bleep] than I do.
Hey, guys, can we go? 'Cause I'm getting pissy.
We gotta stay tight, guys. We gotta stay tight.
[Jasmine speaking]
Did one of you mother [bleep] come to my defense?
Not one of you--
[Ed] Shut up--
[Kobe] Okey-dokey.
Oh, man. That was a long day.
You guys, drinks are on me tonight.
Whoa!
[Emily speaking]
What'd you think of Rob and Sophie?
I thought she brought a lot of things out that were out of context.
[Emily] Right.
That's true. Yeah.
He's not perfect, and I'm sure he did lose his temper,
but the fact that he made a list, I thought it was hilarious.
Um, flush the toilet, you know?
[Patrick] How are you guys feeling?
Thais does not flush the toilet either.
[Thais speaking]
[Patrick] You don't!
[Rob] What?
Dude, she took a picture of the dirty toilet and sent it to me.
[bleep] You missed it?
That's why I was like, "Oh, Sophie, that's fine.
You don't flush the toilet? Whatever."
[Ed speaking]
Because Rob told us today
that she doesn't like to flush the toilet.
Yeah, so we need evidence.
[Emily] So now we need to go see.
[Gino] Let's see the evidence.
Gino, you're not innocent either, okay?
Yeah, you're not safe, huh?
-Wait, he didn't flush it, too? -Yeah!
[Gino] Let's have a look at the bathroom.
I want you to see...
Well, don't look at that.
What do you think?
Let's go check their toilet. All right, downstairs.
-[Kobe] Skeleton in their closet. -[Ed] Let's go.
[Gino] All right, let's go check this out.
Oh, my goodness gracious, what are we gonna find?
[Emily] Investigators.
Who wants to bet on if the toilet's flushed or not?
Five bucks it's not flushed.
It's not? I'm betting it's flushed.
[Ed] Okay, let's go. You ready?
[bleep]
Is it flushed or not?
[Emily] You owe me $5!
Yeah, toilet seat is up. That's a guy move by leaving the seat up.
That's true. That's a guy move.
And you know who falls in the toilet?
Your pregnant wife at 2:00 a.m., and it's rude!
Well, that was so fun.
I love being a little detective.
Of everybody, this is probably the fun group.
-[Emily] Oh, yeah. No, we're so fun. -Definitely.
Nobody's screaming at anybody yet.
[Gino] There's not a lot of yelling and screaming tonight.
[Kobe speaking]
Same goes for Patrick and Thais.
Yes.
-Because he needs to stand up to John -[Liz] He does not.
and say, "Respect my wife. This is my wife, this is our home."
You better believe... I was raised...
If I go to someone's house, I don't show up empty handed.
Right, and you say "Hello", right?
I go to somebody's house,
I don't leave empty handed. I take...
I steal something from their house.
[Ed] That's how I was raised.
[Ed] I know who brought their swim trunks.
-I brought mine. -I did.
Maybe we can all hit the hot tub, if you guys want to.
-I'll consider it. -[Ed] Okay.
[upbeat music playing]
-[Emily whoops] -[Ashley] I know, right?
[Ashley speaking]
I'm giving it to myself.
[Loren] Tonight is the night they sleep in the bed.
-[Alexei] Hello! -[Loren] Hello, hello!
Gang is all here.
It's so nice.
So I mean, this is fun. You guys have actually been really pleasant together
despite all the [bleep] that's been going on between you two.
I... Yeah, I mean, last night was rough,
but I definitely feel like we know that the chapter is closed.
[Emily whoops] Whoa, princess.
Look at you. Let me see your bathing suit.
You're so cute. Stop it.
-Should I go put mine on? -Yeah!
No, I'm just kidding. Let's go.
-Why not? -I'll walk you out there.
-But that's half of the toxic cycle. -Right.
But I just don't wanna be here and like--
[Thais speaking]
[Ashley] It is cold, it's cold.
-I just, like, jumped in. It's cold. -Whoo!
-This how we get in? -Come on in.
It'll even out.
[chuckling] Okay, move over.
[Ashley] I'm loving all the steam.
-Here, I'll move. Take my seat. -Okay.
Oh, my God. It's so hot here.
[Ed speaking]
Um, no.
-No. -Yes, you do!
-No sisters, Ed. -Why?
[Ed speaking]
[Ed] Yeah.
-Do you want to be single, Ed? -For a little bit.
-[Ashley] Yeah. -I don't wanna rush it.
[Liz speaking]
Us ladies have a couple of words to say to him.
-[Patrick] Oh, yeah? -[Liz] Mm-hmm.
I have, too.
Thais, I didn't realize there was so much tension between you and his brother.
I didn't know that.
[Thais] He pretend he doesn't know anything.
-I have-- -No, it's not...
I'm not trying to pretend I don't know anything.
Yeah, but what I'm saying is I didn't know that.
[Thais] I think... Huh?
I didn't know that.
Was today the first time you saw her tears?
[Patrick speaking]
Hey, Mr. Man.
Look at you. Already in your robe, huh?
Oh, no, we're getting in the hot tub.
-Oh, there you go. -That's what you walked in on.
That's what I walked in on.
I don't know if I need to walk into that.
You got the variety pack, I see.
Well, you know, flavors.
Bring the variety out to the hot tub.
[John] I ain't going out there.
-He needs to have her back. -Absolutely.
You need to wear the pants in the family.
-No, she doesn't. -[Ed] Yes, she does.
-We both wear pants. -[Rob] Watch out, now.
-Whoo! -Hey, how you doing?
-Come on in. -I don't know how we're all gonna fit.
Yeah, it's really hot when I got here first.
With you and Sophie after today.
There was lots of tea that got spilled.
I mean, Rob is my boy.
I didn't appreciate the best friend because...
It's like twice as hard for them
to work on their stuff with somebody like that.
Like, intruding in her mind.
If you guys are gonna stay married,
Sophie needs to bring her ass home.
-Oh. -[Ashley and Patrick] Speak of the devil.
-Hi, Sophie! -Call it my witchtuition.
-Hello! -Hi!
[Ashley] Hey, girl.
-You look so cute! -It's hot.
I never told you to grow up.
I told her that she's an adult.
She knows she's an adult. She's 27 years old.
-And she needs to be a strong woman... -And a mom.
-And tell him-- -And a mom. Exactly.
Tell him, "Look, man, I don't come into my house--"
You need to wear the pants in the family.
Oh, my God, look at that face!
What is... Look, okay, golly, God. Jesus.
When I tried to defend her, you told me to grow up.
I didn't say [bleep] to you.
Did one of you mother [bleep] come to my defense?
Not one of you--
-Are you serious? I was the only one-- -[Ed] Shut the hell--
To be clear--
-No, the [bleep] I wasn't. -Yes, you were!
-[Rob] No, I wasn't! -[Sophie] I showed it to you.
[Rob] No, I wasn't!
I have a voice note of his voice.
You have a voice note of me saying--
"Hey, if you're in a LA, come meet me."
That is a [bleep] lie!
[Ed] You need to stand up to John like you just did to me.
[Thais] I wasn't going to sit there and be insulted by Ed.
After all the terrible things that he has done in his relationships?
No.
-Let me see your head. -Why?
Oh, you're bald.
-Well, yeah. -And you're okay with it?
-Yeah. -You need to talk to Gino.
-[Gino] Cheers. -[Kobe] Cheers, brothers.
-Salud, salud. Here we go. -Cheers, John.
You guys can break.
[Kobe speaking]
-Yes. Of course. -Okay. That's good.
I know, I know. The marriage certificate's there.
If Thais can just open up a little bit,
you guys can have a fun relationship.
[John] I should open up too, right?
I'm just not that, you know, that open guy all the time, you know?
She's not trying to make enemies.
[Kobe] Because of what happened today.
You feel like you didn't say anything bad, but...
He says, [mockingly] "Hello."
I'm like, [mimics] "Hi."
[Patrick] I know what she's talking about.
-Listen, you will see-- -I know what she's talking about,
because that's how you've been even in my past relationships to the people I was with.
-Like, you were just... -[Thais speaking]
[Patrick] You were standoffish, bro.
[John] Yeah.
Sister-in-law.
Finish. Yeah.
Okay, Thais, what do you need from him?
-I don't know. Just respect me, you know? -[Emily] Okay.
So John's gonna come over and acknowledge you.
[all exclaiming]
There you go.
I gave a little olive branch, you know.
I'm willing to give it a chance
if you're willing to give it a chance, you know.
Your tone and your face, you know, might say something different.
[Emily] You're willing to work on it.
-Yeah. Yeah, I am. -[Emily] Okay.
Then let's hug and make up.
I hugged him already.
I'm not the bad guy.
Jesus Christ. All right.
You guys know you're, like, the hottest [bleep] couple.
What do you guys think? Do you think I love Rob?
I'm going to tell you. A lot of people, when you weren't there,
think your friend is a homewrecker.
-Kae? -[Liz] Yes.
I'm not sure I think she's a home wrecker.
-No, I said, "Some people." -[Ed] She's a home wrecker.
Why do you think she's a home...
-She's seen all the [bleep]. -[Ashley] She's intense.
All we're saying, Sophie, is if you guys are not letting go of the marriage,
because if he were, you would have--
But should he not have cheated, though?
And maybe then I would have let go.
-[Ashley speaking] -I probably should have left.
After the one billionth bitch online.
But that time before?
-All the time. -[Liz] Yeah, and I get that.
[Rob] To be clear--
-No, the [bleep] I wasn't. -Yes, you were!
-No, I wasn't! -I showed it to you.
No, I wasn't!
I have a voice note of his voice.
You have a voice note of me saying--
"Hey, if you're in a LA, come meet me--"
That is a [bleep] lie!
The worst thing that she found that she hadn't found
was a voice note of me saying,
"Yeah, maybe we can get lunch sometime."
From a girl who reached out and said, "Let's get lunch sometime."
Who even she knows I would never be physically attracted to.
So I literally looked at it--
So much of it was just me responding to people being nice to me.
[Jasmine] Hi, ladies!
In a general sense, if somebody hit you up and goes,
"Oh, my God, you're so pretty."
[Liz] Is that you?
That is not what I [bleep] said.
Are you serious?
"Meet me in town, let's go to dinner." Are you [bleep] crazy?
Because you're defensive.
-Is she lying? -She's [bleep] lying.
I've never, ever offered to take anybody to dinner.
-To do anything with anyone-- -[Sophie speaking]
Pull the [bleep] receipts up then!
[Shaun] Next time on 90 Day Fiance: Happily Ever After?
The Couples Tell All: No Limits...
Rob and Sophie, you're seated in separate chairs.
What happened?
Angela, you've always disrespected your husband in public.
-Every single place. -It's your opinion.
I don't care about your opinion, Kobe.
See how you're not taking up for me?
-Tell him to hush. -Kobe...
Are you hoarding money for a safety net?
[clears throat]
[whispering] He's turning red.
Are you?
Loren, she was talking [bleep] about Thais the whole time on Pillow Talk.
Yeah, she's so fake.
Hi, everybody.
It was so nice meeting you, I wish you the best of luck.
[Sophie] Because you're leaving after your segment,
and I don't really think that's fair.
So get on a flight and go home.
You guys think that you're better than us?
Excuse me?
Excuse you.