1 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,679 (suspenseful music) 2 00:00:21,399 --> 00:00:23,160 [William] You went to the police and told them lies? 3 00:00:23,199 --> 00:00:24,440 No, I didn't. 4 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:25,800 No, I didn't go to the police and tell them lies- 5 00:00:25,839 --> 00:00:27,160 [William] So it is the truth? 6 00:00:27,199 --> 00:00:30,399 (suspenseful music) 7 00:00:31,239 --> 00:00:34,000 You just want someone to say, do you know what, 8 00:00:34,039 --> 00:00:35,000 I believe you. 9 00:00:35,039 --> 00:00:38,359 (suspenseful music) 10 00:00:38,399 --> 00:00:40,159 She's very much likely to fall 11 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:41,880 in the hands of the prosecution, 12 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,759 so they can scrutinize her evidence, 13 00:00:44,799 --> 00:00:46,039 and tear it apart. 14 00:00:46,079 --> 00:00:49,560 (suspenseful music) 15 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,600 That does not make me someone who is abusive 16 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,200 to children, because I'm not. 17 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,119 (suspenseful music) 18 00:00:57,159 --> 00:00:58,320 If they think that, 19 00:00:58,359 --> 00:01:01,560 then they think we're monsters. 20 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,599 (suspenseful music) 21 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:08,319 [Man] Is the breathing noisy at the moment? 22 00:01:08,359 --> 00:01:09,719 [Kyle] I don't think she's breathing 23 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:11,840 on her own, I'm breathing for her. 24 00:01:11,879 --> 00:01:13,439 [Kenzey] Please keep breathing, Kyle! 25 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:14,480 [Man] Okay. 26 00:01:14,519 --> 00:01:16,359 [Narrator] On November the 3rd, 2014, 27 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,760 a call was made to NHS Direct. 28 00:01:18,799 --> 00:01:19,879 [Man] Okay. 29 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,159 [Narrator] An eight week old baby girl 30 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,120 was fighting for her life. 31 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:25,280 [Man] Okay, so the emergency ambulance 32 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:26,920 has already been requested. 33 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:28,239 Has she taken any odd medication? 34 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:29,799 [Kenzey] Kyle, breathe! 35 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:30,799 [Man] Kneel by the side. 36 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:31,799 [Kenzey] Keep breathing! 37 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:32,799 [Narrators] Doctors discovered 38 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:34,760 she had a fractured skull, 39 00:01:34,799 --> 00:01:36,200 bleeding on the brain, 40 00:01:36,239 --> 00:01:38,519 and severe retinal hemorrhaging. 41 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,959 Injuries which left her brain damaged and blind. 42 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,040 (suspenseful music) 43 00:01:44,079 --> 00:01:45,000 The next day, 44 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:46,920 her 21 year old mother Kenzey, 45 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,239 and the baby's father, Kyle, were arrested. 46 00:01:51,359 --> 00:01:54,040 Kyle was charged with grievous bodily harm. 47 00:01:54,959 --> 00:01:57,079 Kenzey with witnessing the assault, 48 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,239 and failing to protect her child. 49 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,120 (suspenseful music) 50 00:02:04,239 --> 00:02:06,480 It's the first time Kenzey's been accused 51 00:02:06,519 --> 00:02:07,799 of a crime 52 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,680 If convicted, she faces up to 10 years in prison. 53 00:02:11,719 --> 00:02:14,800 (suspenseful music) 54 00:02:16,599 --> 00:02:19,039 They actually arrested us the day after. 55 00:02:19,879 --> 00:02:21,360 I just felt sick. 56 00:02:22,599 --> 00:02:23,719 I remember saying, 57 00:02:23,759 --> 00:02:25,680 you ask me anything you wanna ask me now, 58 00:02:25,719 --> 00:02:26,759 I've got nothing to hide, 59 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,400 say whatever it is you need to say, 60 00:02:28,439 --> 00:02:30,840 'cause I need to get back to the hospital, 61 00:02:30,879 --> 00:02:32,439 I need to be with her. 62 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:35,400 It's heartbreaking. 63 00:02:36,199 --> 00:02:41,240 It's heartbreaking, because to turn round, 64 00:02:41,759 --> 00:02:46,319 and throw that at you is one of the worst things 65 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,800 any parent could be accused of. 66 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,479 (soft eerie music) 67 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:57,879 [Narrator] After her arrest, 68 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,639 Kenzey's injured baby was removed from her care 69 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:01,680 by social services. 70 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:05,000 A year of police investigations 71 00:03:05,039 --> 00:03:07,120 into her and Kyle followed, 72 00:03:07,159 --> 00:03:09,360 before charges were laid. 73 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:10,639 And the Crown Prosecution Service 74 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,400 has spent five more months 75 00:03:12,439 --> 00:03:15,599 gathering evidence to use against her. 76 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,800 (soft eerie music) 77 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,080 Her trial is now nine weeks away. 78 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,080 As it currently stands, 79 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,159 the allegations that have been made against me 80 00:03:26,199 --> 00:03:30,599 are either, you know, I should have known, 81 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,120 or I did know something, 82 00:03:32,159 --> 00:03:33,680 which isn't the case. 83 00:03:33,719 --> 00:03:34,879 At the moment, 84 00:03:34,919 --> 00:03:39,319 there's a lot of speculation, speculating. 85 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,400 All I do know is I can say 100% 86 00:03:42,439 --> 00:03:44,199 is that I know it wasn't me, 87 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,879 and neither would I have allowed that, 88 00:03:46,919 --> 00:03:49,159 I wouldn't have allowed that to happen. 89 00:03:49,199 --> 00:03:53,000 She's my child, and she was loved. 90 00:03:53,039 --> 00:03:55,039 You feel it every day. 91 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:56,479 You know, it doesn't go away. 92 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:00,039 It's something every day that I think about. 93 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:01,240 It's been a year and a half, 94 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,240 and I've never, ever got my head around that, 95 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,520 and I'm constantly looking for answers. 96 00:04:09,919 --> 00:04:13,120 (suspenseful music) 97 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:19,360 [Narrator] Kenzey is being represented 98 00:04:19,399 --> 00:04:22,199 by criminal law firm, GT Stewart. 99 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:24,720 Barrister Ronnie Manek 100 00:04:24,759 --> 00:04:27,399 is leading the preparations for her defense. 101 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,879 If the client is new to the system, 102 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,439 never been in custody before, 103 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:33,600 or police custody, 104 00:04:33,639 --> 00:04:36,360 they're very anxious, very apprehensive 105 00:04:36,399 --> 00:04:38,439 about what will happen next. 106 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:40,639 Criminal trials, they take a long time 107 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:41,480 to get to trial. 108 00:04:41,519 --> 00:04:43,800 From the very outset of charge, 109 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:45,399 it can go a bit quiet, 110 00:04:45,439 --> 00:04:46,800 and they get on with their lives, 111 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:48,519 and then it suddenly sort of surfaces, 112 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,160 and you will have to face up to it one day. 113 00:04:51,199 --> 00:04:54,000 And that day will come at your trial. 114 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,199 The stress that goes with a trial process, 115 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,399 for a suspect who's never been 116 00:04:59,439 --> 00:05:03,040 in this position before, is huge. 117 00:05:03,079 --> 00:05:05,600 (suspenseful music) 118 00:05:05,639 --> 00:05:08,199 [Narrator] To challenge the prosecution's case, 119 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,079 Kenzey's legal team needs to assess 120 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,480 thousands of pages of written evidence, 121 00:05:12,519 --> 00:05:14,839 and hours of video and audio recordings 122 00:05:14,879 --> 00:05:16,199 that they've submitted. 123 00:05:17,639 --> 00:05:20,439 One of the most significant is Kenzey's call 124 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,079 to NHS Direct, 125 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:23,199 in the early hours 126 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,319 of Monday the 3rd of November, 2014. 127 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,839 (suspenseful music) 128 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:33,839 Assisting Ronnie with the case 129 00:05:33,879 --> 00:05:35,959 is solicitor William Bache, 130 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,040 a leading specialist in baby shaking cases. 131 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:43,399 Kenzey, how are you? 132 00:05:43,439 --> 00:05:44,519 [Kenzey] Hiya. 133 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:45,680 [Narrator] He needs to establish 134 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,000 Kenzey's version of events 135 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:48,399 shortly before the call. 136 00:05:48,439 --> 00:05:49,399 Can I carry anything for you? 137 00:05:49,439 --> 00:05:50,399 [Narrator] The period in which 138 00:05:50,439 --> 00:05:51,959 medical experts say the injuries 139 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,360 must have been inflicted. Thank you. 140 00:05:54,399 --> 00:05:56,040 All right, then. 141 00:05:56,079 --> 00:05:59,199 [Kenzey] Not being with Kyle 100% of the time. 142 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:03,120 You know, I can't say yes, 100%, 143 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,920 but actually, if you're asking me my feeling, 144 00:06:05,959 --> 00:06:07,160 and what do I think? 145 00:06:08,079 --> 00:06:10,600 I don't think he has done anything. 146 00:06:10,639 --> 00:06:11,879 Yes, all right. 147 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,600 I'd like to go to the Sunday night, 148 00:06:15,639 --> 00:06:17,519 and you are in the kitchen. 149 00:06:18,879 --> 00:06:23,920 And Kyle is in the lounge, with the child. 150 00:06:24,399 --> 00:06:26,399 You were in the kitchen with the door shut, 151 00:06:26,439 --> 00:06:27,680 making up a feed. 152 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:29,800 Did you hear anything? 153 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,000 I'd said, at some point, 154 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:34,560 I thought I heard crying, 155 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,680 and I opened the door. 156 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,959 And he said, oh no, it was just the telly. 157 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:41,279 So I said, oh, right, 158 00:06:41,319 --> 00:06:42,360 it sounded like crying. 159 00:06:42,399 --> 00:06:45,000 So I shut the door, and carried on. 160 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:46,680 [William] Yes, so how did things go 161 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:47,920 on from there? 162 00:06:47,959 --> 00:06:49,800 And then, I said to him, 163 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:51,199 she seems a bit floppy. 164 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:52,560 You know, what if something's wrong with her, 165 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,600 and she's having a fit or something? 166 00:06:54,639 --> 00:06:56,199 So this is very important. 167 00:06:56,879 --> 00:06:58,079 Just don't go too quickly, 168 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,120 because I would like to get it. 169 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:01,319 In that instant, 170 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,279 you realized there was something wrong. 171 00:07:03,319 --> 00:07:04,319 [Kenzey] I thought something 172 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:05,600 didn't seem quite right with her. 173 00:07:05,639 --> 00:07:07,399 Straight away? Yeah. 174 00:07:07,439 --> 00:07:10,600 And then he just went, oh no, she's fine, 175 00:07:10,639 --> 00:07:11,639 she's just tired. 176 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,600 And that completely threw off 177 00:07:14,639 --> 00:07:15,800 whatever I was thinking, 178 00:07:15,839 --> 00:07:17,079 because I thought, 179 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,240 oh, I'm just making a fuss about something. 180 00:07:20,279 --> 00:07:24,639 I just didn't think anything further, 181 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:25,920 and went to bed, so. 182 00:07:25,959 --> 00:07:29,120 All right, so then what happens after that? 183 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:30,079 During the night, 184 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,120 she made some different sounds. 185 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,240 But when I picked her up, 186 00:07:35,279 --> 00:07:37,120 she cried, but it seemed 187 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,519 like a lot of effort for her. 188 00:07:40,639 --> 00:07:41,800 Obviously, she was unwell. 189 00:07:41,839 --> 00:07:46,920 I had my phone, and I made a search on Google. 190 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:48,360 [William] What words did you use? 191 00:07:48,399 --> 00:07:49,879 [Kenzey] Well, I don't know. 192 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:51,879 [William] As best you can remember. 193 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,600 Well, the prosecution says that I- 194 00:07:54,639 --> 00:07:56,600 [William] No, no, I don't want to know 195 00:07:56,639 --> 00:07:57,399 what the prosecution say, 196 00:07:57,439 --> 00:07:58,600 I want to know what you say. 197 00:07:58,639 --> 00:08:01,199 Well, I don't remember exactly what I put in. 198 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,360 Just something in my mind, just went, 199 00:08:03,399 --> 00:08:04,800 actually, why don't you just call 200 00:08:04,839 --> 00:08:06,519 the NHS for advice? 201 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:11,199 I sat up, and I passed her over to Kyle, 202 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:12,800 and I don't really know 203 00:08:12,839 --> 00:08:14,040 exactly what he was doing, 204 00:08:14,079 --> 00:08:17,920 but he blew a couple of times in her mouth. 205 00:08:17,959 --> 00:08:20,000 And I didn't say anything, 206 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,360 but I do remember thinking, what's he doing? 207 00:08:22,399 --> 00:08:26,560 You know, not thinking anything of this. 208 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:31,800 [William] Kyle was blowing in some way into her mouth? 209 00:08:31,839 --> 00:08:33,799 [Kenzey] Not repeatedly, but he done it 210 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,159 sort of a couple of times. 211 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,200 [William] Before making the call. 212 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:40,759 [Kenzey] Yeah. 213 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,159 (sorrowful eerie music) 214 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,360 [Woman] Thank you for calling NHS 111. 215 00:08:49,399 --> 00:08:50,399 This service is- 216 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:51,559 [Narrator] Ronnie and his colleague, 217 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,480 Kevin Williams, are listening to a recording 218 00:08:53,519 --> 00:08:54,440 of the call. 219 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:56,159 [Woman] Please hold the line, 220 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:57,519 and your call- Trouble. 221 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,480 [Man] Good morning, you're through to NHS 111, 222 00:08:59,519 --> 00:09:01,080 and you're speaking- 223 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:02,480 [Ronnie] I'm not entirely sure 224 00:09:02,519 --> 00:09:04,120 that that's the actual correct transcription of it. 225 00:09:04,159 --> 00:09:06,200 [Kenzey] But she sounds very nasally, 226 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,039 and she keeps like, twitching. 227 00:09:08,919 --> 00:09:10,960 Like her head keeps sort of, 228 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,799 she's stopped now, but she's just so floppy 229 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,240 and everything, and her breathing- 230 00:09:17,279 --> 00:09:19,240 [Man] But you said she's still asleep, yeah? 231 00:09:19,279 --> 00:09:20,399 [Kenzey] She's still asleep, yeah. 232 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:21,639 [Man] Okay, so floppy makes sense 233 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,840 when they're still asleep. 234 00:09:23,879 --> 00:09:24,919 [Narrator] Medical experts say 235 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:26,159 the injuries to her baby 236 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,600 were deliberately inflicted. 237 00:09:28,639 --> 00:09:30,120 The prosecution is arguing 238 00:09:30,159 --> 00:09:32,360 that Kenzey had seen her boyfriend assault 239 00:09:32,399 --> 00:09:35,000 their daughter, and was trying to cover this up 240 00:09:35,039 --> 00:09:36,240 when she made the call. 241 00:09:36,279 --> 00:09:37,879 [Kenzey] She won't wake up, though, 242 00:09:37,919 --> 00:09:38,960 this is the thing. 243 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,279 [Man] I need you to wake her up. 244 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,120 [Kenzey] Okay, Kyle, try and wake her up. 245 00:09:42,159 --> 00:09:44,440 [Man] Make sure you can wake her up. 246 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,039 [Kyle] She's got blood around her face. 247 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:47,039 [Kenzey] She's got blood 248 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:48,000 around her face. On her nose. 249 00:09:48,039 --> 00:09:49,000 [Kenzey] On her nose. 250 00:09:49,039 --> 00:09:51,200 Oh my God, I'm really scared now. 251 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:52,960 [Man] Don't be scared, all right? 252 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,039 [Kenzey] I don't know 253 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:55,679 why she's just so floppy, I'm quite- 254 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,080 [Man] Are you still continuing 255 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:58,919 to try and wake her up? 256 00:09:58,960 --> 00:09:59,799 [Kenzey] Yes. 257 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:01,399 [Man] Yeah, all right. 258 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,480 [Kenzey] Kyle, is she still breathing? 259 00:10:03,519 --> 00:10:06,240 [Man] Is the chest still coming up, yeah? 260 00:10:06,279 --> 00:10:08,279 [Kyle] No it's not, she's got like, 261 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,399 her whole nose is blocked. 262 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,080 [Man] Okay, but is the chest still rising 263 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:13,279 up and down? It's a bloody color, 264 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,000 and it's sort of bubbling. 265 00:10:16,039 --> 00:10:17,799 [Man] Blood bubbling from the nose, yeah? 266 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:19,360 [Kyle] And her mouth. 267 00:10:19,399 --> 00:10:21,159 [Kenzey] Kyle, pick her up, please. 268 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:22,279 [Kyle] No, don't pick her up. 269 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,600 [Kenzey] Please, please make her safe! 270 00:10:25,639 --> 00:10:27,399 [Man] Is the breathing noisy at the moment? 271 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,039 [Kyle] I don't think she's breathing on her own, 272 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:30,360 I'm breathing for her. 273 00:10:30,399 --> 00:10:32,840 [Kenzey] Please keep breathing, Kyle. 274 00:10:32,879 --> 00:10:35,240 (puffing) 275 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:37,360 [Man] Nice rhythm. 276 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:38,799 [Kyle] Have you sent someone? 277 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:40,080 [Man] Okay, that's already been sent, 278 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,000 that's been sent, that's already been sent through, 279 00:10:42,039 --> 00:10:44,320 I've already organized an ambulance for her. 280 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:45,639 Has she taken any odd medication? 281 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,120 [Kenzey] Kyle, breathe! 282 00:10:47,159 --> 00:10:48,120 [Man] Kneel by the side. 283 00:10:48,159 --> 00:10:49,759 [Kenzey] Keep breathing! 284 00:10:49,799 --> 00:10:51,080 Stop Kyle, don't ever stop, 285 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,000 just keep doing it. 286 00:10:53,039 --> 00:10:56,600 Is she still alive, I don't know. 287 00:10:56,639 --> 00:10:58,240 Oh, baby, come on. 288 00:10:59,519 --> 00:11:00,879 (soft eerie music) 289 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:02,279 They're here, they're here, 290 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,840 they're here, they're here, okay. 291 00:11:04,879 --> 00:11:08,399 [Man] Are they there with you now? 292 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:12,039 Obviously, it's quite an emotional call. 293 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:13,120 But if you notice at the start, 294 00:11:13,159 --> 00:11:14,279 it was quite calm. 295 00:11:15,039 --> 00:11:15,960 She was quite calm, 296 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,080 she was quite quite calculated, 297 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,639 and she was able to describe what was going on. 298 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,039 And then she became 299 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,480 extremely hysterical and crying 300 00:11:27,519 --> 00:11:29,559 as soon as the blood was mentioned. 301 00:11:30,279 --> 00:11:31,799 Can we just go to the beginning of the, 302 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:32,960 I'm in trouble, 303 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:37,000 because that's quite a damaging comment, 304 00:11:37,039 --> 00:11:39,399 which the prosecution will no doubt play on. 305 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,720 [Narrator] It's alleged that as the call connects 306 00:11:41,759 --> 00:11:42,879 to the operator, 307 00:11:42,919 --> 00:11:44,840 Kenzey can be heard saying to Kyle 308 00:11:44,879 --> 00:11:46,039 that she's in trouble. 309 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:47,600 [Woman] Please hold the line, 310 00:11:47,639 --> 00:11:48,480 and your call- 311 00:11:48,519 --> 00:11:49,559 [Kenzey] In trouble. 312 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:50,919 I don't know if, can you make it out, 313 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,600 because I'm struggling to make it out? 314 00:11:53,639 --> 00:11:56,559 So we can be perhaps go back a few seconds? 315 00:11:57,919 --> 00:11:59,440 You certainly hear the word trouble, 316 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:00,879 whether you could confidently say 317 00:12:00,919 --> 00:12:02,679 she says, I'm in trouble. 318 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:03,759 [Woman] The line, and your call- 319 00:12:03,799 --> 00:12:04,960 [Kenzey] In trouble. 320 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:06,159 [Man] Good morning, you're through to NHS- 321 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,360 There's no way that that, I can't decipher 322 00:12:09,399 --> 00:12:11,519 that that is saying, I'm in trouble. 323 00:12:13,039 --> 00:12:15,200 She does appear to say something like trouble, 324 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:16,559 but not, I'm in trouble. 325 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:17,919 Yeah, I agree. 326 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:19,039 [Ronnie] It depends how much emphasis 327 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:20,879 the Crown are placing on this. 328 00:12:20,919 --> 00:12:24,159 (suspenseful music) 329 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:26,679 [Kenzey] I'm not sure if you picked up on it, 330 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:28,200 but according to someone, 331 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,240 I've said, I'm in trouble. 332 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,039 Don't actually know where they're getting that from, 333 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,120 'cause I know fine well I never said anything 334 00:12:37,159 --> 00:12:38,720 along those lines. 335 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,399 [William] Right then, let's just go back 336 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,360 to when the ambulance people arrived at the flat. 337 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:51,720 I remember her being held 338 00:12:51,759 --> 00:12:53,480 by the female paramedic, 339 00:12:53,519 --> 00:12:56,799 and her all in one was just cut down the middle, 340 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,320 and she was just, 341 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,440 she just looked lifeless. 342 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:06,440 [William] Do you remember, 343 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,000 or can you describe 344 00:13:08,039 --> 00:13:11,279 what Kyle's demeanor was in front 345 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,200 of the ambulance staff? 346 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,320 He was just very emotional, I remember he- 347 00:13:17,039 --> 00:13:20,000 [William] How does he show he's being emotional? 348 00:13:20,039 --> 00:13:22,559 He was trying to cling onto me, 349 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:27,000 and I'm not the sort of person, that, like, 350 00:13:27,039 --> 00:13:28,559 I don't wanna, like, 351 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,159 he was trying to hold me, 352 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,559 and I didn't wanna be held. 353 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:35,919 I didn't even feel like I was here. 354 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:37,200 It didn't feel real. 355 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:38,200 You've just woken up 356 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,000 from a really horrendous, 357 00:13:40,039 --> 00:13:42,840 worst possible, awful nightmare. 358 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,720 Everything is just black, you just, 359 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,679 and you're still panicking. 360 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:53,519 [William] Yes. 361 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,639 If we cross-reference the evidence, 362 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,039 firstly taking, I'm in trouble, 363 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,399 with the medical response team's evidence, 364 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,440 where he states 365 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:10,279 that Kyle went to hold Kenzey's hand. 366 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:11,320 Of course, she then pulled away, 367 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,200 and says, don't you dare touch me, 368 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,120 get away from me, don't touch me again. 369 00:14:15,159 --> 00:14:17,279 And that's at witness page, 103. 370 00:14:18,519 --> 00:14:20,720 Putting that into context of this, 371 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,159 the prosecution will no doubt put a spin on it 372 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:28,440 on the fact that she must have known, 373 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,200 prior to that call, 374 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:31,919 that she has been shaken, 375 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:33,679 or suffered blunt trauma. 376 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:35,240 Either by eyewitness, 377 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:37,200 in terms of her witnessing anything, 378 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,600 or whether she was told by Kyle 379 00:14:39,639 --> 00:14:41,120 that he had done something. 380 00:14:41,159 --> 00:14:42,799 So when pieced together, 381 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:43,720 I have to say, 382 00:14:43,759 --> 00:14:45,120 the prosecution case does look 383 00:14:45,159 --> 00:14:47,519 a little bit stronger than at first blush. 384 00:14:48,679 --> 00:14:51,720 (suspenseful music) 385 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:04,440 [Narrator] In seven weeks, 386 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,960 22 year old Kenzey will stand trial 387 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,159 for failing to protect her baby daughter 388 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,879 from a violent assault, by her boyfriend, Kyle. 389 00:15:12,919 --> 00:15:15,480 An assault that she claims never happened. 390 00:15:16,399 --> 00:15:17,759 Sometimes when I'm walking, 391 00:15:17,799 --> 00:15:19,759 I feel a bit conscious 392 00:15:19,799 --> 00:15:22,000 that I'm just gonna see someone. 393 00:15:22,039 --> 00:15:25,039 Like bumping into some of the police officers. 394 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:26,679 If I was to see them in the street, 395 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,639 I'd avoid them, I wouldn't want 396 00:15:28,679 --> 00:15:29,639 to bump into them. 397 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,159 [Narrator] Just being accused 398 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,679 has already brought a heavy punishment. 399 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,480 After her arrest 18 months ago, 400 00:15:36,519 --> 00:15:38,799 Kenzey's injured daughter was taken away 401 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:40,519 by social services, 402 00:15:40,559 --> 00:15:41,559 because Kenzey was deemed 403 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,399 to be a potential risk to her. 404 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,240 Kenzey then moved to a new area. 405 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:49,720 When you see people 406 00:15:49,759 --> 00:15:52,480 with their children and stuff, 407 00:15:52,519 --> 00:15:54,519 like I just saw a lady with her pram, 408 00:15:54,559 --> 00:15:57,840 and I always think, that should be me. 409 00:15:57,879 --> 00:15:59,759 You know, why is that not me? 410 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:03,279 I suppose as well, because obviously, 411 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:07,919 when I moved here, I had Kyle here as well. 412 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,120 So it's kinda difficult, 413 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:16,120 that he's not round and stuff as well. 414 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,159 (suspenseful music) 415 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:21,759 [Narrator] Kyle has now been remanded 416 00:16:21,799 --> 00:16:23,960 in custody until the trial. 417 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,399 But before he was remanded, 418 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,240 Kenzey became pregnant with a second daughter. 419 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,360 Immediately after the child was born, 420 00:16:33,399 --> 00:16:36,279 she was also removed from Kenzey's care. 421 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,799 [Kenzey] We had to go to court 422 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:41,360 while I was still in hospital. 423 00:16:41,399 --> 00:16:44,159 And the judge made the decision 424 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,080 that she should be placed elsewhere. 425 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,279 It was traumatizing. 426 00:16:50,759 --> 00:16:52,840 (suspenseful music) 427 00:16:52,879 --> 00:16:56,759 It's such a life changer, having a child. 428 00:16:56,799 --> 00:16:59,559 And it's precious as well, you know. 429 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:00,600 You're gonna do this, 430 00:17:00,639 --> 00:17:02,120 and you're gonna do that. 431 00:17:02,159 --> 00:17:04,240 And you do all these wonderful things, 432 00:17:04,279 --> 00:17:06,119 but you never think 433 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,039 that's gonna be taken from you. 434 00:17:09,079 --> 00:17:12,440 And I guess just visualizing that feeling 435 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,960 of when they're home. 436 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,079 It's just that that keeps me going. 437 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,680 (soft suspenseful music) 438 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,000 [Narrator] Kenzey's defense preparations 439 00:17:31,039 --> 00:17:34,200 are being led by barrister, Ronnie Manek. 440 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:35,960 Once you're accused of a crime, 441 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:37,440 and you're charged, 442 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,160 the public automatically assume you're guilty, 443 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:41,440 because the prosecution bring the case, 444 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:42,559 and the police bring it, 445 00:17:42,599 --> 00:17:43,960 so they must be right. 446 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:45,960 Sometimes it feels like David against Goliath, 447 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,759 because you have the individual, 448 00:17:48,799 --> 00:17:51,039 with their legal aid lawyer, 449 00:17:51,079 --> 00:17:54,119 and then you have three or four police officers, 450 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:55,720 the reviewing lawyer and prosecution, 451 00:17:55,759 --> 00:17:57,759 and other paralegals and caseworkers, 452 00:17:57,799 --> 00:17:58,920 and then the barrister. 453 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,160 So you feel like you've got a whole team 454 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:02,720 that you have to face and confront, 455 00:18:02,759 --> 00:18:05,079 and it sometimes doesn't feel 456 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:06,599 like a level playing field. 457 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:08,960 Right, she said a few things- 458 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,119 [Narrator] More evidence has arrived 459 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:11,559 for Ronnie to consider. 460 00:18:12,599 --> 00:18:13,960 A voluntary police interview 461 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,960 that Kenzey gave to the child abuse investigation team 462 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,599 two months after her daughter had been injured. 463 00:18:20,839 --> 00:18:22,000 [Man] Is that her? 464 00:18:22,039 --> 00:18:23,319 [Kevin] Yeah, looks different, doesn't she? 465 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:24,880 [Man] I was expecting a blonde. 466 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,559 There was an argument between me and Kyle, 467 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:30,359 the end of September, 468 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:34,119 and then he was arrested, domestic violence. 469 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:36,960 And the reason that actually started 470 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,400 was because Kyle, 471 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,079 he was saying to me, 472 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:43,960 you don't need to go to her every time she cries. 473 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,759 And I said, yeah, but if I know why she's crying. 474 00:18:46,799 --> 00:18:48,960 So it seems like very early on, 475 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:53,039 there's always been like, maybe jealous tendency? 476 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:58,559 But the week before she became unwell, 477 00:18:59,279 --> 00:19:01,359 Kyle was feeding her. 478 00:19:03,039 --> 00:19:05,720 And I remember him saying, 479 00:19:05,759 --> 00:19:07,960 oh she's just a greedy cunt. 480 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:12,240 And my reaction to that was just, 481 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,119 how dare you say something like that. 482 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,519 She's not a greedy cunt, she's a baby. 483 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:24,240 You can't be, it's verbal abuse, 484 00:19:24,279 --> 00:19:28,160 you know, he verbally abuses me, 485 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,039 but to be verbally abusive 486 00:19:30,079 --> 00:19:31,279 to the baby, she's hungry, 487 00:19:31,319 --> 00:19:33,160 if she's hungry, you know, 488 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,079 there's nothing wrong with that. 489 00:19:35,759 --> 00:19:37,200 But as time has gone on, 490 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,359 and because of Kyle's behavior, 491 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,000 and reflecting back on things, 492 00:19:42,039 --> 00:19:44,559 there seems to being a bit of a pattern emerging. 493 00:19:44,599 --> 00:19:48,279 And I think the warning signs were there, 494 00:19:48,319 --> 00:19:52,440 but obviously, you don't expect anything 495 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,160 like this to happen, so. 496 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,799 But yeah, so. 497 00:19:56,839 --> 00:19:58,039 [Woman] I'm just gonna pop next door 498 00:19:58,079 --> 00:19:59,160 and have a quick chat- 499 00:19:59,960 --> 00:20:01,240 [Kevin] It's done now, Ronnie. 500 00:20:01,279 --> 00:20:02,319 She comes back and then says, 501 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,160 there's nothing else to talk about. 502 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:05,640 So, shall we turn it off there? 503 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:06,720 Yeah. 504 00:20:06,759 --> 00:20:08,160 On one hand it's helpful, 505 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:09,960 on one hand it's helpful 506 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,799 about her state of mind, 507 00:20:11,839 --> 00:20:13,880 and it's upon reflection. 508 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,079 It's all upon reflection, 509 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:16,480 because this is done two months later. 510 00:20:16,519 --> 00:20:19,440 Not actually, that's what she felt at the time. 511 00:20:20,599 --> 00:20:23,079 But also, she does say, 512 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,599 I think the warning signs were there. 513 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:27,960 [Kevin] Yeah, well, 514 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:28,960 you wouldn't want that going in, 515 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,759 I just think you should avoid it. 516 00:20:31,799 --> 00:20:32,960 [Ronnie] What's your view about why 517 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:33,960 this has been recorded? 518 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:34,920 Because you'll know 519 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,680 that she's voluntarily attended 520 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,000 the police station. 521 00:20:40,039 --> 00:20:42,160 I think their intention at that stage 522 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,240 is to use her as a prosecution witness. 523 00:20:44,279 --> 00:20:45,359 Because if I remember rightly, 524 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,359 she told me that her and Kyle 525 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,240 were having some arguments. 526 00:20:49,279 --> 00:20:50,960 I think it's around this time. 527 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,039 [Ronnie] It helps them against her, 528 00:20:53,079 --> 00:20:55,160 because of the background, 529 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,559 and the acrimony in their relationship, 530 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,519 it quite suggests that she ought to have known 531 00:21:03,559 --> 00:21:05,680 in relation to his violent background. 532 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,680 (soft eerie music) 533 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,200 (sighing) 534 00:21:17,759 --> 00:21:19,359 [Narrator] Her solicitor William Bache 535 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,119 wants to quiz Kenzey about the interview. 536 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,720 You gave a couple of voluntary interviews 537 00:21:26,759 --> 00:21:28,160 to the police, didn't you? 538 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,759 Yeah, I don't want that used. 539 00:21:30,799 --> 00:21:33,720 [William] I'm sorry, it's there. 540 00:21:33,759 --> 00:21:35,279 It's in the evidence. 541 00:21:35,319 --> 00:21:36,880 We can't get away from it. 542 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,160 We have to deal with it. 543 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:39,440 [Kenzey] Voluntary? 544 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:40,799 [William] Yes. 545 00:21:40,839 --> 00:21:42,920 Why don't you want to deal with it? 546 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,039 Because at the time, 547 00:21:45,079 --> 00:21:47,079 my mindset was very different, 548 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,559 and I'll be quite honest, 549 00:21:49,599 --> 00:21:53,160 I was very pissed off about one thing or another, 550 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:55,920 and I wasn't actually educated- 551 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,160 [William] Well was it the truth or wasn't it? 552 00:21:58,200 --> 00:21:59,319 No, I was just think- 553 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,119 [William] You're telling me you went 554 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,720 to the police and told lies? 555 00:22:02,759 --> 00:22:03,759 No I didn't go to the police 556 00:22:03,799 --> 00:22:04,960 and tell them lies, I went- 557 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,160 [William] So it is the truth? 558 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:07,359 Well it is, but what I'm saying is, 559 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,240 some things I think are slightly exaggerated, 560 00:22:10,279 --> 00:22:12,200 because I was pissed off at him. 561 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,559 So when you're pissed off at someone, 562 00:22:14,599 --> 00:22:17,240 you tend to, rather than saying, 563 00:22:18,279 --> 00:22:19,440 I don't know how to explain it, 564 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,880 but you know, you are angry with someone, 565 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,920 so you, do you know what I mean? 566 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:26,319 But, the things that I said 567 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,599 I feel are quite harsh, and maybe- 568 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:30,359 Well I'm afraid we're going 569 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:31,640 to just have to tackle it. 570 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:34,720 [Narrator] In a different police interview 571 00:22:34,759 --> 00:22:36,680 with Kenzey, it was alleged 572 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:37,680 that she was complicit 573 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,599 in covering up Kyle's assault. 574 00:22:40,839 --> 00:22:42,960 Now going to this interview, 575 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,960 one of the things we found on Kyle's phone 576 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,640 was a search. 577 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,079 Yeah, on the web search, 578 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,839 it said that the search was, baby don't wake up. 579 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:57,079 That was made at an exact time as 5:44. 580 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:58,519 Okay. 581 00:22:58,559 --> 00:23:00,720 The NHS direct number was called at about, 582 00:23:00,759 --> 00:23:03,720 let's have a look, at 5:52. 583 00:23:03,759 --> 00:23:05,400 Seven or eight minutes later. 584 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,519 You've left it eight minutes to phone 101. 585 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,200 But what we're saying 586 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:12,960 is that perhaps something had happened, 587 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,279 and you've decided like, 588 00:23:14,319 --> 00:23:15,960 you're right with suggestions 589 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,480 that collusion could take place. 590 00:23:17,519 --> 00:23:20,319 Or one of you had decided, let's phone 111, 591 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:21,400 and while we're on the phone, 592 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,640 make out then she stopped breathing, 593 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:24,839 so it all looks normal, 594 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,640 and then the ambulance is called. 595 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:30,000 I mean, I don't know 596 00:23:30,039 --> 00:23:32,079 who these people think they are, 597 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,559 and what they think exactly has happened, 598 00:23:35,599 --> 00:23:38,319 but reading that, it's fucking sick, 599 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:39,240 and it's nothing like that, 600 00:23:39,279 --> 00:23:41,359 and it makes me fucking furious. 601 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,400 (police siren blaring) 602 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,200 (suspenseful music) 603 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,119 I'm just in complete limbo, 604 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,160 because I'm like, yes, 605 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,839 I know we wasn't a perfect couple, 606 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,240 but I haven't done this. 607 00:24:04,279 --> 00:24:05,960 And I don't believe Kyle has either. 608 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,160 And I'm not gonna change that. 609 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,160 Unless like, you know, 610 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,079 there's some really significant evidence 611 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:13,519 that came forward and was like, look, 612 00:24:13,559 --> 00:24:16,160 this is the only way this could have happened. 613 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,200 Just because we had our moments, 614 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,119 and we was volatile at times, 615 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,960 doesn't mean that that person is then going 616 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,839 to go and do something to a child, you know? 617 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,160 So to make that assumption 618 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:32,839 is a big assumption to make, 619 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,599 and it's completely wrong. 620 00:24:35,519 --> 00:24:38,559 (suspenseful music) 621 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,240 A lot of this is in Kenzey's own hands. 622 00:24:47,279 --> 00:24:49,559 If it wasn't her that had caused the injuries, 623 00:24:49,599 --> 00:24:52,359 then it would have had to have been Kyle, 624 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,519 who was at the time, her partner. 625 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:57,960 I wish I could just tell her 626 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,119 to wake up and smell the coffee, 627 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,119 and deal with the reality of the situation, 628 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,880 which is looking after her own interests. 629 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,400 Because if she doesn't, 630 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:10,480 there's a real risk 631 00:25:10,519 --> 00:25:13,279 that she will be convicted of this case. 632 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:15,359 If she were to be convicted, 633 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,240 there is a risk that she will face 634 00:25:19,279 --> 00:25:21,079 an immediate custodial sentence. 635 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,440 She would never get to see her children. 636 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,119 Her stakes are very high in her case, 637 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:27,759 because she has a lot to lose. 638 00:25:30,039 --> 00:25:33,559 (train rattling) 639 00:25:33,599 --> 00:25:36,599 (suspenseful music) 640 00:25:37,519 --> 00:25:39,519 [Narrator] Social services only allow Kenzey 641 00:25:39,559 --> 00:25:42,279 to see her children a few times each year. 642 00:25:45,759 --> 00:25:49,160 [Kenzey] It's just got lower, and lower, and lower, 643 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,240 the time that I spend with her. 644 00:25:51,279 --> 00:25:55,920 It started off every day for four hours, 645 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,359 it then went to three times a week 646 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,839 for two hours, to once a week, 647 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,200 to once a month, to four times a year 648 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:09,799 [Narrator] The injuries sustained 649 00:26:09,839 --> 00:26:11,279 by Kenzey's daughter, 650 00:26:11,319 --> 00:26:14,000 injuries that 16 medical experts say 651 00:26:14,039 --> 00:26:16,559 were the result of an intentional assault, 652 00:26:16,599 --> 00:26:18,960 have left her with serious health problems. 653 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,880 She regularly requires long stays in hospital, 654 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,400 and Kenzey's mother, Maz, 655 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:25,599 visits her often, 656 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,839 seeing for herself the care and attention 657 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,559 her granddaughter requires. 658 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,119 She's got cerebral palsy in all four limbs, 659 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,920 with dystonia, which is stiffening 660 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,359 of the upper limbs, 661 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,759 and the bottom part is very floppy. 662 00:26:43,799 --> 00:26:45,000 She's got an unsafe swallow, 663 00:26:45,039 --> 00:26:46,720 so she doesn't have anything orally, 664 00:26:46,759 --> 00:26:48,359 so she's peg fed through her stomach, 665 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,160 and she's got inhalers now, 666 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,279 more recently as well, for her breathing, 667 00:26:52,319 --> 00:26:53,559 'cause her breathing's got bad. 668 00:26:53,599 --> 00:26:55,000 She's got scoliosis, 669 00:26:55,039 --> 00:26:56,960 which is curvature of the spine. 670 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,000 And her hips are dislocated. 671 00:26:59,799 --> 00:27:02,000 And possibly her knee, as well. 672 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,480 [Narrator] Aware that her granddaughter needs 673 00:27:04,519 --> 00:27:06,759 more than the hospital can provide, 674 00:27:06,799 --> 00:27:08,759 Maz does what she can to help. 675 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:10,680 I just try and do the best 676 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,920 I can for her, and, you know, 677 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,160 try and get her anything that's available 678 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:17,759 out there for her to do, 679 00:27:17,799 --> 00:27:19,279 like the music therapy, 680 00:27:20,279 --> 00:27:23,359 and she goes to the cerebral palsy center 681 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:24,039 once a week. 682 00:27:24,079 --> 00:27:24,960 They're things that 683 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,039 I've arranged privately myself. 684 00:27:28,079 --> 00:27:29,359 I'm just sort of trying to pick 685 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,559 up the pieces from the mess left behind, 686 00:27:32,599 --> 00:27:33,519 if you like. 687 00:27:34,559 --> 00:27:37,599 (suspenseful music) 688 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:39,759 [Narrator] Kenzey used to work 689 00:27:39,799 --> 00:27:41,279 for a homeless charity, 690 00:27:41,319 --> 00:27:43,960 but left after the stress of being accused, 691 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,880 and having her children taken away 692 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,160 became too much. 693 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:48,200 Well, they're new. 694 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,759 They were in a box, so I want 2.50. 695 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:52,839 [Narrator] Her defense case 696 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,480 is being paid for by legal aid. 697 00:27:55,519 --> 00:27:56,960 (suspenseful music) 698 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,200 Since last year now, 699 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,480 I've been doing some fundraising sort of thing, 700 00:28:02,519 --> 00:28:03,680 just raising money 701 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,559 for her further treatments, 702 00:28:06,599 --> 00:28:07,759 and different therapies, 703 00:28:07,799 --> 00:28:11,000 'cause obviously, she's got quite complex needs, 704 00:28:11,039 --> 00:28:13,960 so she's gonna have to need further treatment 705 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,119 and further therapies in the future. 706 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,759 So this is just one of the ways 707 00:28:18,799 --> 00:28:22,039 in which I get that money together, 708 00:28:22,079 --> 00:28:26,440 just running boot sales, and, yeah, 709 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:27,680 you know, it's good fun to get out, 710 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,200 and obviously, because I know why I'm doing it, 711 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,400 I'm very passionate about it. 712 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,359 (suspenseful music) 713 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:37,799 I just remember when she was born, 714 00:28:37,839 --> 00:28:40,720 it was just like getting into a routine. 715 00:28:40,759 --> 00:28:42,400 You go to the park. 716 00:28:43,119 --> 00:28:45,559 Always had her there with me. 717 00:28:45,599 --> 00:28:47,920 And seven weeks just flew by, 718 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,599 it just went so quick. 719 00:28:51,599 --> 00:28:55,079 I still think in my mind, why? 720 00:28:56,359 --> 00:28:57,200 Why us? 721 00:28:58,039 --> 00:28:59,400 You know, why my family? 722 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,160 If I could swap places with Kenzey, 723 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,839 I would take it all away from her, 724 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,079 and I'd take it. 725 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,880 It's not fair what she's going through. 726 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:09,880 She don't deserve it. 727 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,559 You know, she's worked hard 728 00:29:11,599 --> 00:29:12,880 since she left school. 729 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,880 She's a good kid. 730 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,079 You know, she's never drunk, 731 00:29:17,119 --> 00:29:18,759 smoked, took drugs. 732 00:29:18,799 --> 00:29:21,200 Always been a caring person. 733 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,160 Always done good things for other people. 734 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,519 [Man] She finds it hard to think of Kyle 735 00:29:25,559 --> 00:29:28,640 as someone who also has done anything wrong. 736 00:29:29,599 --> 00:29:31,839 I can't say he definitely did, 737 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,000 or he definitely didn't. 738 00:29:33,039 --> 00:29:34,839 Obviously ,I don't know, I wasn't there, 739 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,039 I don't know. 740 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,160 But I would be surprised, to be honest, 741 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,839 if he did, 'cause he never struck me 742 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,000 as the kind of person 743 00:29:44,039 --> 00:29:46,039 that would do something like this. 744 00:29:50,799 --> 00:29:53,160 Obviously, I have to keep an open mind. 745 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,359 (soft eerie music) 746 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,119 [Narrator] Even though her legal team 747 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,160 have advised her not to, 748 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,160 Kenzey has kept in regular contact 749 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,480 with Kyle whilst he's been in prison. 750 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,000 He calls me baby doll. (chuckling) 751 00:30:14,039 --> 00:30:16,599 It just says, hi, baby doll. 752 00:30:17,799 --> 00:30:20,359 Firstly, I miss you ladies very much, 753 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,960 And I wish I could cuddle up to you all. 754 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,000 For me, that is a dream come true. 755 00:30:26,039 --> 00:30:28,200 The closer I get to this trial, 756 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,759 at least then I will know how long I have to wait 757 00:30:30,799 --> 00:30:31,960 for that day. 758 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,799 In the meantime, focus on the positives, 759 00:30:34,839 --> 00:30:36,319 and keep praying that one day, 760 00:30:36,359 --> 00:30:39,359 we will be a family again. 761 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,359 Love you, forever. 762 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,680 This one is from Easter. 763 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,799 Says hi, baby doll. 764 00:30:48,839 --> 00:30:50,920 I found a poetry book 765 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,000 with all kinds of First World War poetry in it. 766 00:30:54,039 --> 00:30:56,160 So the first is called Everyone's Saying, 767 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,359 which I feel has some slight relevance 768 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,920 to our freedom and our wanting of unity, 769 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,559 here it goes. 770 00:31:02,599 --> 00:31:05,079 Everyone suddenly burst out singing, 771 00:31:05,119 --> 00:31:07,839 and I was filled with such delight. 772 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,759 As prison birds must find in freedom, 773 00:31:10,799 --> 00:31:13,400 winging widely across the white, 774 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,200 everyone's voice was suddenly lifted, 775 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,839 and beauty came like the setting sun. 776 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,119 It just feels like it used to. 777 00:31:23,279 --> 00:31:25,359 Like how we would be with each other, 778 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,799 and it gives me a sense of normality. 779 00:31:29,839 --> 00:31:33,319 My life hasn't always been as it is now. 780 00:31:33,359 --> 00:31:35,480 [Man] It would potentially help your defense 781 00:31:35,519 --> 00:31:38,720 if you were to distance yourself. 782 00:31:39,559 --> 00:31:44,839 I think, I can understand that approach, 783 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,160 and actually, in a way, 784 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,640 I have distanced myself, 785 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,599 because I've not seen him, 786 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,559 and I have kind of taken that middle line, 787 00:31:54,599 --> 00:31:56,559 and that's where I am. 788 00:31:56,599 --> 00:31:58,039 I'm on that middle line. 789 00:31:58,799 --> 00:32:01,160 And when people use the words, 790 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,640 intent, or maliciousness, 791 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,680 I mean, who is anybody, 792 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,640 you know I can't even make that judgment, 793 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:15,359 so how can a stranger make that judgment? 794 00:32:17,359 --> 00:32:19,319 It's just completely beyond me, 795 00:32:19,359 --> 00:32:20,759 the only person that can make 796 00:32:20,799 --> 00:32:24,079 a judgment here is God. 797 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,920 (suspenseful music) 798 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,200 [Narrator] Kenzey already faces 799 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,119 up to 10 years in prison. 800 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,160 For failing to protect her baby daughter 801 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,720 from what independent medical experts say 802 00:32:42,759 --> 00:32:44,759 must have been a serious assault. 803 00:32:48,559 --> 00:32:50,079 Now, the challenge facing her 804 00:32:50,119 --> 00:32:51,720 and her defense team 805 00:32:51,759 --> 00:32:53,960 has become much more serious. 806 00:32:55,079 --> 00:32:57,920 The prosecution have added a further charge, 807 00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,240 which increases the chances 808 00:32:59,279 --> 00:33:00,720 of Kenzey being convicted. 809 00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:04,400 Cruelty to a person under 16, 810 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,240 contrary to section 1.1 811 00:33:06,279 --> 00:33:08,519 of the Children and Young Persons Act, 1933. 812 00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:11,240 Willfully, and I emphasize the word willfully, 813 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,039 because that means 814 00:33:13,079 --> 00:33:14,920 knowingingly and deliberate, okay, right? 815 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:15,920 [Kenzey] I'm gonna end up using 816 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:16,920 the C word in a minute. 817 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:17,799 Don't. 818 00:33:17,839 --> 00:33:18,839 But hang on, let me finish. 819 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,960 Assaulted, ill treated, neglected, 820 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,240 or exposed the said child 821 00:33:24,279 --> 00:33:26,519 in a manner likely to cause the said child 822 00:33:26,559 --> 00:33:28,119 unnecessary suffering, 823 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:29,839 or injury to health. 824 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,079 What that effectively means- 825 00:33:31,119 --> 00:33:32,759 They will fucking suffer if they fucking carry on 826 00:33:32,799 --> 00:33:34,720 like this, 'cause I'm not having it. 827 00:33:34,759 --> 00:33:36,319 Right, okay. 828 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,720 I'm just advising you on what is going to happen. 829 00:33:39,759 --> 00:33:40,880 On one hand, they're saying 830 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,119 that you've neglected her by not seeking 831 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,319 medical attention quick enough, all right? 832 00:33:46,359 --> 00:33:47,880 Hold your thoughts on that one. 833 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:52,480 Secondly, it's that you've exposed her 834 00:33:52,519 --> 00:33:56,920 to a situation or an environment willfully, 835 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,839 knowing that Kyle is violent, 836 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:01,440 and can be aggressive, 837 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:06,759 and which would likely to cause her 838 00:34:06,799 --> 00:34:09,079 to suffer unnecessarily, 839 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,480 or cause injury to her health. 840 00:34:12,519 --> 00:34:15,320 I'm just not gonna stand in that box 841 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:20,079 at any point, and go on like I knew something, 842 00:34:20,119 --> 00:34:21,920 because first of all, I don't. 843 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:22,880 Second of all, 844 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,639 I never see Kyle do anything, 845 00:34:24,679 --> 00:34:27,079 in any of the time. 846 00:34:27,119 --> 00:34:28,199 [Ronnie] You say that, you say that. 847 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:29,719 So I'm not gonna stand- 848 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:30,920 That helps you. 849 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,440 Because you not seeing Kyle being aggressive, 850 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,159 that means you could never have known 851 00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:37,559 or suspected or ought to have known 852 00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:38,920 that there's a significant risk. 853 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,519 So that's great, you say that. 854 00:34:40,559 --> 00:34:41,599 Do people not think, 855 00:34:41,639 --> 00:34:44,320 that I wouldn't have give Kyle, 856 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:45,239 I wouldn't have- 857 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,519 I agree with you, 100%, Kenzey. 858 00:34:47,559 --> 00:34:50,159 What we can't tell a jury 859 00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:53,159 is how the injuries happened. 860 00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:56,039 Because you don't know when Kyle took her away, 861 00:34:56,079 --> 00:34:57,159 whether it happened, 862 00:34:57,199 --> 00:35:00,199 and only Kyle knows, nobody else knows. 863 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,280 It's stupid that they come out 864 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:03,360 with this crap, 865 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,280 because if someone had done something, 866 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,079 they'd think, fuck it, ooh, you know, 867 00:35:07,119 --> 00:35:08,639 let's just say we dropped her, 868 00:35:08,679 --> 00:35:10,440 or let's just say, you know, 869 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:11,760 but no one's done that, 870 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:12,920 because at the end of the day, 871 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,599 no one's got nothing to hide! 872 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:16,559 Does that make sense? 873 00:35:16,599 --> 00:35:17,760 [Ronnie] Well, not necessarily, because- 874 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,840 Well, okay, I can't speak 100% for Kyle, 875 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,280 I know, and I can't speak 100% for anyone in this world. 876 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,119 Kyle's not gonna necessarily tell you, he might t 877 00:35:24,159 --> 00:35:25,840 he might not tell you, he may wish not to tell you. 878 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,199 You may not think he's done it, that's fine. 879 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,360 That's your personal opinion. 880 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,519 I don't know whether Kyle's done it, 881 00:35:32,559 --> 00:35:33,920 neither do the prosecution. 882 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,639 But based on circumstantial evidence, 883 00:35:38,519 --> 00:35:43,719 a jury could conclude that they're sure 884 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,000 that Kyle did cause the injuries. 885 00:35:47,039 --> 00:35:49,719 Because in that window of, for example, 886 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:50,960 45 minutes in the kitchen, 887 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,000 but if they're not sure, 888 00:35:52,039 --> 00:35:53,679 then they'll find him not guilty. 889 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:54,599 Do you see? 890 00:35:57,039 --> 00:35:58,199 She doesn't want to believe it. 891 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,719 She doesn't want to assist the prosecution 892 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:01,840 in convicting him, 893 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:02,920 where he's looking 894 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,480 at a very, very long prison sentence 895 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,360 for his part in this. 896 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,519 But, it's hard, because I'm not in it. 897 00:36:12,559 --> 00:36:13,519 And if I'm a lawyer, 898 00:36:13,559 --> 00:36:16,079 I would be advising her to do that. 899 00:36:16,119 --> 00:36:18,920 But if I take myself out of the lawyer capacity, 900 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,039 and try and put myself in her shoes, 901 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,880 it's extremely, extremely difficult 902 00:36:25,559 --> 00:36:28,079 to try and portion blame on a loved one 903 00:36:28,119 --> 00:36:29,280 that you don't want to accept 904 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,159 that they would have done this to the child. 905 00:36:32,199 --> 00:36:35,760 (soft suspenseful music) 906 00:36:43,159 --> 00:36:45,079 [Narrator] Just how aware Kenzey was 907 00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:47,519 of Kyle's tendency to violence 908 00:36:47,559 --> 00:36:48,760 is becoming central 909 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,000 to the prosecution's case against her. 910 00:36:53,199 --> 00:36:54,960 In order to address the accusation 911 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,280 that Kenzey and Kyle's relationship 912 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,960 was a key factor in the alleged crime, 913 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,639 solicitor, William Bache, 914 00:37:01,679 --> 00:37:03,559 needs to know more about them. 915 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,119 We got on well to begin with. 916 00:37:07,159 --> 00:37:08,880 We got on went very well. 917 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:13,480 I think it was more towards 918 00:37:13,519 --> 00:37:14,519 the end of that year 919 00:37:14,559 --> 00:37:17,760 when things were a little bit rocky. 920 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,960 He could be abusive. 921 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,519 So he'd say things. Give me an example 922 00:37:22,559 --> 00:37:23,880 of what he would say. 923 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,719 Oh, well, you're just being a bitch, 924 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,800 and it was like, you know, 925 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,400 I don't tolerate people 926 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,920 being verbally abusive towards me. 927 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,119 You know, whether it be Kyle, 928 00:37:36,159 --> 00:37:41,199 or the queen, I won't tolerate anyone. 929 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,360 [William] Did it ever progress to the point 930 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,599 where he became physically aggressive? 931 00:37:46,639 --> 00:37:48,599 To be honest, he's never like, 932 00:37:50,119 --> 00:37:54,159 punched me, or done anything in that sense. 933 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,480 But throughout the pregnancy, 934 00:37:57,519 --> 00:37:59,960 there were, on occasions, 935 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,360 there were still these heated arguments 936 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,159 over silly things. 937 00:38:06,199 --> 00:38:08,199 And I found the verbal abuse 938 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:12,800 had got a bit more, you know- 939 00:38:13,199 --> 00:38:15,800 Bit stronger. A bit stronger. 940 00:38:16,159 --> 00:38:17,199 [Narrator] With just three weeks 941 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,360 until Kenzey takes the stand, 942 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,400 her version of events is being collated 943 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,840 into a statement, that will form the basis 944 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,079 of her defense. 945 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,480 Details need to be checked 946 00:38:27,519 --> 00:38:28,519 and double-checked, 947 00:38:28,559 --> 00:38:30,519 to prepare her for cross-examination 948 00:38:30,559 --> 00:38:31,679 by the prosecution. 949 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,320 Now, if you remember, 950 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,639 I spoke to you some time ago, 951 00:38:36,679 --> 00:38:40,159 and took quite a detailed story 952 00:38:40,199 --> 00:38:42,400 from you about when you started to notice 953 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,159 that she was unwell? 954 00:38:44,199 --> 00:38:47,199 Did you at that, or round about then, 955 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,639 say anything like, should we call the hospital, 956 00:38:50,679 --> 00:38:51,880 should we call the health service, 957 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,039 should we call an ambulance? 958 00:38:53,079 --> 00:38:54,719 [Kenzey] No, no. 959 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,639 You didn't actually sort of say, 960 00:38:56,679 --> 00:38:57,719 perhaps we ought to get somebody 961 00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:58,960 to come along and see. 962 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,360 [Kenzey] No, I didn't. 963 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,480 [William] If you'd been left to yourself, 964 00:39:02,519 --> 00:39:04,159 uninterfered that night, 965 00:39:04,199 --> 00:39:05,639 what would you have done? 966 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:07,840 To be quite honest, 967 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:08,760 I've thought about this a lot 968 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,199 in the last 18 months or so. 969 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:13,360 What would I have done 970 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:14,400 if it was just me, 971 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,039 and had I had had them few seconds, 972 00:39:17,079 --> 00:39:19,840 I think I would have called someone. 973 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,079 Whether that be my mum or the NHS. 974 00:39:22,119 --> 00:39:25,039 And that's something I think about almost daily. 975 00:39:26,039 --> 00:39:29,599 Had I been on my own, what would I have done? 976 00:39:29,639 --> 00:39:30,639 And I think... 977 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,559 [William] I'm sorry to have to ask you 978 00:39:38,599 --> 00:39:39,559 all this again. 979 00:39:41,559 --> 00:39:42,960 (sobbing) 980 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,519 Well it think probably going to have 981 00:39:44,559 --> 00:39:45,599 to stop now, anyway. 982 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,360 (sobbing) 983 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:50,840 [Woman] Do you have any tissues? 984 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,280 Sorry, it's just every time, 985 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,480 I feel like I've always gotta go over it, 986 00:39:54,519 --> 00:39:55,400 and it just, 987 00:39:56,119 --> 00:39:57,800 even when I'm not here, 988 00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,880 even at home, I'm constantly going over, 989 00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:01,480 and over, and over, and over, and over, 990 00:40:01,519 --> 00:40:03,280 and it's just all... 991 00:40:04,559 --> 00:40:06,760 I suppose, because I always feel like, 992 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,280 could I have done more, should I have done more, 993 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:12,559 did I do enough, 994 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,480 why didn't I listen to my instincts? 995 00:40:15,519 --> 00:40:18,480 [William] You should not blame yourself. 996 00:40:18,519 --> 00:40:19,440 'Cause you've got nothing 997 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,199 to blame yourself for, all right? 998 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,679 (soft sorrowful music) 999 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,360 [Narrator] It's social services who control 1000 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,559 when Kenzey can see her children. 1001 00:40:31,559 --> 00:40:33,000 Today, she's visiting them. 1002 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,400 Her last chance to do so 1003 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,159 before the trial begins. 1004 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,079 Kenzey's mum, Maz, will also be present. 1005 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,119 Don't like to call it contact, 1006 00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:47,159 I think it's a really horrible word. 1007 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:53,159 So I've got my meeting, my play date 1008 00:40:53,199 --> 00:40:57,000 that I get every so often, 1009 00:40:57,039 --> 00:40:58,679 to see the children. 1010 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:06,159 Three to four times a year, for three hours. 1011 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:14,079 Some arsehole judge in the family court 1012 00:41:14,559 --> 00:41:16,199 has said I should see them 1013 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,280 three to four times a year, 1014 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,159 because maybe, just maybe, 1015 00:41:20,199 --> 00:41:22,119 there might be a possibility 1016 00:41:22,159 --> 00:41:26,880 that Kenzey may have done or knew something, 1017 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,079 which is complete fucking insanity. 1018 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,360 (soft sorrowful music) 1019 00:41:46,159 --> 00:41:47,719 [Maz] Well you just feel helpless, don't you? 1020 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,119 You wanna help your kids. 1021 00:41:49,159 --> 00:41:50,840 It's a bit like your kids 1022 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,119 are being bullied at school, 1023 00:41:52,159 --> 00:41:53,280 you wanna go up there, 1024 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:54,599 and defend them, and stick up for them, 1025 00:41:54,639 --> 00:41:58,119 and stop it, and you're helpless in this situation, 1026 00:41:58,159 --> 00:42:00,880 'cause you're up against so many powerful people, 1027 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,800 that there's nothing you can do about it. 1028 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,239 (soft sorrowful music) 1029 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,920 [Kenzey] I've not been allowed 1030 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:22,079 to be involved in her life as I should 1031 00:42:22,119 --> 00:42:24,159 and ought to be. 1032 00:42:24,199 --> 00:42:26,320 After 18 months, you know, 1033 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:30,800 still trying to find answers and reasons, 1034 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,159 and why, why has this happened? 1035 00:42:35,199 --> 00:42:37,679 I don't even feel like I am a mum. 1036 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,159 (soft sorrowful music) 1037 00:42:42,639 --> 00:42:44,039 [Narrator] Three hours later, 1038 00:42:44,079 --> 00:42:46,679 Kenzey's alloted time with her children is over. 1039 00:42:47,519 --> 00:42:50,960 (soft sorrowful music) 1040 00:42:56,159 --> 00:42:58,519 You know, they're such innocent creatures, 1041 00:42:58,559 --> 00:42:59,559 if you like, you know, 1042 00:42:59,599 --> 00:43:02,920 and it's lovely to watch them learn, 1043 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:07,920 and say things, and do things, 1044 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,960 and it's nice to watch that, 1045 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,119 especially when it's your own children. 1046 00:43:12,159 --> 00:43:14,320 But it's really tough, 1047 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:19,440 because it's so limited, and so restricted. 1048 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,360 And constantly being observed, 1049 00:43:26,599 --> 00:43:30,519 that's the negative side to it. 1050 00:43:30,559 --> 00:43:32,519 (suspenseful music) 1051 00:43:32,559 --> 00:43:34,320 If she gets found guilty, that'll be worse, 1052 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,039 'cause she ain't done anything. 1053 00:43:36,079 --> 00:43:37,559 That means you're sending 1054 00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:38,960 an innocent person to prison, 1055 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,800 they've been punished enough, 1056 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,679 had their kids taken away, 1057 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,519 not allowed to see their kids, 1058 00:43:44,559 --> 00:43:48,480 or only so many times a year or whatever. 1059 00:43:48,519 --> 00:43:49,440 And on top of that, 1060 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:50,599 you've gotta wait for this trial, 1061 00:43:50,639 --> 00:43:52,920 you've been through all that, been on bail, 1062 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:53,920 and go to prison. 1063 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,519 All for something you never done. 1064 00:43:55,559 --> 00:43:56,480 Is that fair? 1065 00:43:57,199 --> 00:44:00,400 (suspenseful music) 1066 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,920 (soft suspenseful music) 1067 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:13,960 [Narrator] In two weeks' time, 1068 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,440 Kenzey's trial will begin. 1069 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:17,480 And she'll be taking the stand 1070 00:44:17,519 --> 00:44:18,960 to try and clear her name. 1071 00:44:20,559 --> 00:44:21,599 There's been times 1072 00:44:21,639 --> 00:44:22,639 where I've just sort of sat in the bath 1073 00:44:22,679 --> 00:44:24,199 or something, and I'm like, 1074 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,400 kinda talking aloud to myself, 1075 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:27,920 and I'm thinking of all the things 1076 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:28,920 that they're gonna ask me, 1077 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,239 and how I'm gonna answer it, 1078 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,559 and I suppose you do kind of rehearse it. 1079 00:44:34,599 --> 00:44:37,639 But actually, you can't rehearse anything, 1080 00:44:37,679 --> 00:44:40,800 because you don't know what's gonna be asked, 1081 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,119 or what's gonna be said. 1082 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,480 And the only thing you can do is be open and honest. 1083 00:44:46,519 --> 00:44:50,199 (soft suspenseful music) 1084 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,400 [Narrator] When Kenzey and Kyle were arrested, 1085 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,519 their mobile phones were seized by the police. 1086 00:44:55,559 --> 00:44:58,119 The prosecution are using the text messages 1087 00:44:58,159 --> 00:44:59,280 sent between them 1088 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,519 to illustrate the volatile relationship 1089 00:45:01,559 --> 00:45:03,440 which surrounded their daughter. 1090 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,519 (suspenseful music) 1091 00:45:07,559 --> 00:45:09,679 (beeping) 1092 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,079 (beeping) 1093 00:45:19,119 --> 00:45:22,320 (suspenseful music) 1094 00:45:29,559 --> 00:45:31,960 (beeping) 1095 00:45:36,079 --> 00:45:37,960 More than 7,000 messages 1096 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,320 have been submitted as evidence 1097 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,559 to Kenzey's barrister, Ronnie Manek. 1098 00:45:43,119 --> 00:45:44,840 [Ronnie] I've received some text messages today. 1099 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,000 [Kenzey] Is this a text message 1100 00:45:46,039 --> 00:45:47,840 between myself and Kyle, or, Mum? 1101 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,599 Yes, the prosecution are effectively using 1102 00:45:50,639 --> 00:45:51,920 these set of text messages, 1103 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,760 and I won't go through them all. 1104 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,000 But for example, 1105 00:45:55,039 --> 00:45:57,679 this is on the 1st of November at six o'clock. 1106 00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,039 I know you cannot stand me, 1107 00:45:59,079 --> 00:46:01,360 that's why you always need to be away from me, 1108 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:02,519 and lie to me. 1109 00:46:02,559 --> 00:46:03,800 Once you return, 1110 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,280 I'll go out until later on, stay out of your way. 1111 00:46:07,119 --> 00:46:08,719 Sorry you hate me so much. 1112 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,559 And it goes on. 1113 00:46:12,159 --> 00:46:14,800 You can play on this, you little cunt. 1114 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,119 There are other text messages here 1115 00:46:16,159 --> 00:46:18,239 which the prosecution are going to use. 1116 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:19,280 But does that make me, you know, 1117 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:20,559 the next Fred and Rose West, 1118 00:46:20,599 --> 00:46:21,760 because we've had 1119 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,000 a little ding dong, you know? No, no, no, no. 1120 00:46:23,039 --> 00:46:24,599 There's no such thing as a perfect couple. 1121 00:46:24,639 --> 00:46:25,800 And I've never once said, 1122 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,760 you know, oh, you know, it's lovely, 1123 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,599 it's hunky-dory, because actually, 1124 00:46:29,639 --> 00:46:30,880 it wasn't always hunky-dory, 1125 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,400 but that does not mean, 1126 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,559 and that does not make me someone who is abusive 1127 00:46:35,599 --> 00:46:37,039 to children, because I'm not, 1128 00:46:37,079 --> 00:46:39,519 nor would I be the sort of person 1129 00:46:39,559 --> 00:46:41,360 that's gonna allow for that to happen. 1130 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,000 [Ronnie] Well, they're trying to make out 1131 00:46:43,039 --> 00:46:45,239 that you're this mother who allowed- 1132 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:46,199 It makes me sicks, it makes me- 1133 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:47,360 [Ronnie] Well, I agree- 1134 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:48,519 It makes me sick. 1135 00:46:48,559 --> 00:46:50,480 I don't even have words to explain it, Ronnie. 1136 00:46:50,519 --> 00:46:51,639 I really don't. 1137 00:46:51,679 --> 00:46:52,719 And I'm sorry, I don't mean to get annoyed, 1138 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:53,760 it just upsets me. 1139 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,119 You will have your opportunity 1140 00:46:55,159 --> 00:46:57,320 in the witness box to actually tell the jury 1141 00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:58,480 how sick you are 1142 00:46:58,519 --> 00:47:00,280 about the accusations against you. 1143 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,840 We can't stop the prosecution from prosecuting. 1144 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:04,480 They are there to do their job, 1145 00:47:04,519 --> 00:47:06,599 we are here to do our job for you, 1146 00:47:06,639 --> 00:47:08,840 and rest assured, you're in safe hands. 1147 00:47:09,079 --> 00:47:10,760 [Kenzey] How many other families 1148 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,039 are gonna have to go through this shit? 1149 00:47:12,079 --> 00:47:13,679 Well- Sorry, for being so- 1150 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,000 No, say it how you feel. 1151 00:47:15,039 --> 00:47:16,400 Don't hold back. 1152 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:17,920 And please, don't hold back 1153 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,719 in the witness box, of course, 1154 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,679 we will go through evidence with you. 1155 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:23,960 Whether you choose to go over evidence 1156 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,199 or not, we can deal with later, all right? 1157 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,519 But again, we have to, 1158 00:47:28,559 --> 00:47:29,639 Kenzey, we have to make sure 1159 00:47:29,679 --> 00:47:31,800 that we focus on our case, okay? 1160 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:33,840 He has his legal team. Just makes me sick. 1161 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,719 He has a Queen's Counsel. 1162 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,480 Okay, he has a legal team, right? 1163 00:47:38,519 --> 00:47:40,559 We are not defending him. 1164 00:47:41,559 --> 00:47:44,559 (suspenseful music) 1165 00:47:49,679 --> 00:47:52,039 (beeping) 1166 00:47:52,079 --> 00:47:55,280 (suspenseful music) 1167 00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:01,639 [Narrator] The most damning messages 1168 00:48:01,679 --> 00:48:03,159 for Kenzey's defense were sent 1169 00:48:03,199 --> 00:48:06,360 just a few weeks before the couple were arrested. 1170 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,119 After Kyle had been cautioned by police 1171 00:48:08,159 --> 00:48:09,719 for hitting Kenzey 1172 00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,480 while she was holding their baby. 1173 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:14,639 [Kenzey] I didn't want to press 1174 00:48:14,679 --> 00:48:15,800 any charges or anything. 1175 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,719 It was more like a warning thing. 1176 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,159 It was a warning thing, as in- 1177 00:48:19,199 --> 00:48:20,360 He got cautioned, he was cautioned. 1178 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,639 Did he tell you that he accepted a caution? 1179 00:48:23,679 --> 00:48:24,880 No. 1180 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:26,159 Do you know what I mean by a police caution? 1181 00:48:26,199 --> 00:48:27,239 Yeah. 1182 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,800 That he admitted that he did slap you. 1183 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,920 I didn't know he'd accepted a caution, no. 1184 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:34,079 He accepted a police caution, 1185 00:48:34,119 --> 00:48:36,000 which is not a criminal conviction. 1186 00:48:36,039 --> 00:48:38,159 But I didn't sign anything, you know, to- 1187 00:48:38,199 --> 00:48:39,719 No, see, initially, 1188 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,559 you made an allegation didn't you, 1189 00:48:41,599 --> 00:48:42,400 you called the police? 1190 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:43,880 Yeah, I rang the police, yeah. 1191 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:45,440 You then made, 1192 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:46,440 which Kevin has 1193 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,519 basically just shown you a statement. 1194 00:48:48,559 --> 00:48:50,840 That caution will remain on his record 1195 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,719 for a number of years. 1196 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:53,960 But it's not a conviction 1197 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:55,679 It was a two way thing to be honest with you. 1198 00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:59,320 I said it was actually both of us were squabbling. 1199 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,119 So I never sat down and said, oh, no. 1200 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:04,920 [Ronnie] All couples argue, all right? 1201 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,440 Well, I would think so. 1202 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:07,280 You know, as I said, 1203 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:08,360 I don't think there's such thing 1204 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,880 as a perfect couple that doesn't have 1205 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:12,639 a disagreement. No, they all argue. 1206 00:49:12,679 --> 00:49:13,800 Yeah, exactly. And I'm not saying 1207 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,159 that to have an altercation 1208 00:49:15,199 --> 00:49:17,800 is right in any way, shape or form, 1209 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,280 but, as I said, it doesn't make me, 1210 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:29,199 or Kyle even, what they're trying to make out. 1211 00:49:29,639 --> 00:49:33,199 (soft suspenseful music) 1212 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:41,880 No one understands what's going 1213 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,440 through your mind, 1214 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:44,280 no one understands 1215 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,559 your thought process, you know? 1216 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,119 And you just want someone to say, 1217 00:49:50,159 --> 00:49:52,519 do you know what, I believe you. 1218 00:49:52,559 --> 00:49:53,679 I believe you. 1219 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,760 I hear what you're saying. 1220 00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,000 That is my hope, 1221 00:49:57,039 --> 00:50:00,039 that the jury will, once they hear 1222 00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:02,559 my side of the story, they will soon, 1223 00:50:03,559 --> 00:50:08,079 I hope, realize that's what this is all about. 1224 00:50:08,119 --> 00:50:11,599 Is getting these people to see it from your side. 1225 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,360 As opposed to the prosecution. 1226 00:50:17,639 --> 00:50:21,199 (soft suspenseful music) 1227 00:50:25,039 --> 00:50:26,199 [Narrator] If she's to have a chance 1228 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:27,960 of being found innocent, 1229 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:29,559 Kenzey's legal team need her 1230 00:50:29,599 --> 00:50:31,599 to end her support for Kyle. 1231 00:50:32,559 --> 00:50:34,280 Especially as the prosecution 1232 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,559 have submitted a message he posted on Facebook. 1233 00:50:37,599 --> 00:50:40,679 (suspenseful music) 1234 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,880 Three months after he was arrested, 1235 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:27,480 Kenzey's boyfriend, Kyle, 1236 00:51:27,519 --> 00:51:29,079 confessed on Facebook 1237 00:51:29,119 --> 00:51:31,079 to injuring their baby daughter. 1238 00:51:32,199 --> 00:51:33,920 Kyle later retracted it. 1239 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:35,920 But the confession remains part 1240 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:37,960 of the case against him. 1241 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,159 With one week until trial, 1242 00:51:40,199 --> 00:51:41,719 Ronnie's worried that it will make 1243 00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,639 Kenzey's ongoing support for her boyfriend 1244 00:51:44,679 --> 00:51:47,000 even more damaging to her defense. 1245 00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,039 [Ronnie] Just say the truth is- 1246 00:51:49,079 --> 00:51:51,039 But we're never going to find out the truth, 1247 00:51:51,079 --> 00:51:52,599 I don't think. Why not? 1248 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,199 [Kenzey] 'Cause I just cannot see 1249 00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:55,719 how we're gonna find out the truth. 1250 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:56,719 Say if he gives evidence 1251 00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,280 in the witness box, right? 1252 00:51:58,320 --> 00:51:59,880 [Kenzey] It's different if he sa right, I've done something. 1253 00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:01,079 Well there you go. 1254 00:52:01,119 --> 00:52:03,280 Say if he gives evidence in the witness box. 1255 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,519 And crumbles under cross examination 1256 00:52:06,559 --> 00:52:10,519 by these formidable silks from all sides, right? 1257 00:52:12,079 --> 00:52:14,480 And he decides to make a confession. 1258 00:52:15,599 --> 00:52:16,920 Would that satisfy you? 1259 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:20,719 [Kenzey] If he made a confession- 1260 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:22,519 [Ronnie] He's made two already, by the way. 1261 00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:24,760 Just to let you know. 1262 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:26,159 I have to- 1263 00:52:26,199 --> 00:52:29,079 Facebook and another one, just to let you know, 1264 00:52:29,119 --> 00:52:32,280 unsolicited, without even being prompted. 1265 00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:33,880 But- So, go on. 1266 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,119 If he made a confession, 1267 00:52:36,159 --> 00:52:39,920 and that's different. 1268 00:52:40,679 --> 00:52:42,079 But I would still be thinking, 1269 00:52:42,119 --> 00:52:43,599 why is there no bruising, 1270 00:52:43,639 --> 00:52:44,760 why is there no red mark, 1271 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:45,800 why is there no bump- Well hang on 1272 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,280 If somebody confesses- 1273 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,440 [Kenzey] If someone confessed- 1274 00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,239 I mean, because he feels guilty, for example, 1275 00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:53,599 and he says, right, you know what 1276 00:52:53,639 --> 00:52:54,880 I'm gonna just own up, 1277 00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:56,480 because I don't want to put 1278 00:52:56,519 --> 00:52:58,280 Kenzey through this anymore. 1279 00:52:58,320 --> 00:52:59,360 And he decides, 1280 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,320 are you still not going to believe it? 1281 00:53:03,119 --> 00:53:04,760 You're gonna get into his case. 1282 00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,280 We don't want you to trespass into his case, 1283 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,679 because it just completely ruins 1284 00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:11,239 the perspective of your defense. 1285 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,000 [kenzey[ But I will behind closed doors, 1286 00:53:13,039 --> 00:53:14,679 be doing my research. 1287 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,719 Do what you want behind closed doors. 1288 00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,559 But in front of the jury, 1289 00:53:18,599 --> 00:53:20,400 you'll be asked questions 1290 00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,880 about your role, how they put their case. 1291 00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:25,079 You ought to have known he was violent, 1292 00:53:25,119 --> 00:53:26,559 there's the text messages, 1293 00:53:26,599 --> 00:53:27,679 tell us about the text messages, 1294 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,280 in terms of all that. 1295 00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:33,159 No face pulling, all right, in the dock. 1296 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:35,440 [Kenzey] I can't guarantee 1297 00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:36,599 I won't pull a face, because I've got 1298 00:53:36,639 --> 00:53:38,400 quite an expressive face. 1299 00:53:39,119 --> 00:53:41,480 Answer the question you're asked. 1300 00:53:41,519 --> 00:53:43,840 Don't go off into one. 1301 00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,320 Because the more information you volunteer, 1302 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,480 the more ammunition you give the prosecution 1303 00:53:49,519 --> 00:53:51,199 to take you on a little path. 1304 00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,880 Stick to the question, okay? 1305 00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:55,320 They're slippery, aren't they? 1306 00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:56,280 Well, we're paid 1307 00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,920 to do that, we're lawyers, right? 1308 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,119 Lawyers are there to extract. 1309 00:54:02,159 --> 00:54:05,519 We'll deal with that nearer the time, all right? 1310 00:54:07,199 --> 00:54:08,599 [Narrator] With the Facebook confession 1311 00:54:08,639 --> 00:54:09,960 now in the frame, 1312 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,920 Kenzey's refusal to accept Kyle's involvement 1313 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,039 could seriously undermine her defense. 1314 00:54:16,079 --> 00:54:18,519 But her legal team still have strong arguments 1315 00:54:18,559 --> 00:54:19,519 to put forward. 1316 00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,880 The prosecution has no firm evidence 1317 00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,960 to prove that Kenzey witnessed an assault. 1318 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:29,039 And to counter the claim 1319 00:54:29,079 --> 00:54:30,079 that she should have known 1320 00:54:30,119 --> 00:54:32,239 Kyle was a threat to their child, 1321 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:33,880 solicitor, William Bache, 1322 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,400 has uncovered a social services report 1323 00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,280 made shortly before the injuries happened. 1324 00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:43,119 It concluded that Kyle wasn't a risk to the baby. 1325 00:54:43,159 --> 00:54:46,920 (soft suspenseful music) 1326 00:54:48,079 --> 00:54:51,079 For Ronnie, the case could still go either way. 1327 00:54:55,079 --> 00:54:58,239 I think we have a pretty good chance 1328 00:54:58,280 --> 00:54:59,159 of an acquittal. 1329 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,400 I'm slightly worried that that chance 1330 00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:08,119 will be decreased percentage wise 1331 00:55:08,159 --> 00:55:09,360 if she gave evidence. 1332 00:55:10,119 --> 00:55:11,119 I'm very much worried 1333 00:55:11,159 --> 00:55:13,719 about how she will present herself 1334 00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:14,920 in the witness box. 1335 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,039 She can portray herself 1336 00:55:17,079 --> 00:55:19,800 as protecting her partner, 1337 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,719 which may be very, very harmful to her defense. 1338 00:55:23,519 --> 00:55:25,239 And this is where it can all go wrong, 1339 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,480 and all the hard work that's done so far 1340 00:55:27,519 --> 00:55:30,000 could be unmade. 1341 00:55:30,039 --> 00:55:33,400 (suspenseful music) 1342 00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:34,880 There's gonna be a lot of things 1343 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:36,880 that are thrown at me 1344 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:38,480 that I'm not gonna like. 1345 00:55:38,519 --> 00:55:41,440 And it's a natural thing to wanna react 1346 00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:45,639 when someone's being horrible or nasty to you. 1347 00:55:45,679 --> 00:55:47,599 But I suppose the way 1348 00:55:47,639 --> 00:55:49,800 that I would ground myself 1349 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:54,000 is thinking of both of the children. 1350 00:55:54,039 --> 00:55:59,079 So when I feel myself possibly wanting to react, 1351 00:55:59,119 --> 00:56:01,119 I've got to kind of think, 1352 00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:03,280 remember what this is about, 1353 00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,239 and who you're doing this for, 1354 00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:08,960 and hopefully that should kind of keep me level, 1355 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:10,719 you know, balanced. 1356 00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:12,480 But I don't say it's gonna be easy, 1357 00:56:12,519 --> 00:56:13,880 because my natural instinct 1358 00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:15,679 is I wanna stand up for myself, 1359 00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:17,199 and say, you're wrong. 1360 00:56:18,559 --> 00:56:21,239 My view is that she shouldn't give evidence. 1361 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,480 She may think she's doing herself a favor, 1362 00:56:24,519 --> 00:56:26,559 and telling her story, 1363 00:56:26,599 --> 00:56:31,159 but in fact, she's very much likely to fall 1364 00:56:31,199 --> 00:56:33,400 in the hands of the prosecution, 1365 00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,320 in the way that they want her to be, 1366 00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,320 so they can then scrutinize her evidence, 1367 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:40,679 and tear it apart. 1368 00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,920 (suspenseful music) 1369 00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,000 (soft piano music) 1370 00:57:01,199 --> 00:57:03,199 [Narrator] Kenzey's trial begins today, 1371 00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,679 and is expected to last four weeks. 1372 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:14,159 I'm actually not feeling too bad. 1373 00:57:14,199 --> 00:57:15,480 I don't know, it's really weird, 1374 00:57:15,519 --> 00:57:19,840 it's like it just doesn't actually feel very real. 1375 00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:21,760 I mean, it's daunting. 1376 00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,119 It's obviously gonna be quite daunting, 1377 00:57:24,159 --> 00:57:28,679 but I was there, and I know what happened, 1378 00:57:28,719 --> 00:57:30,840 and I know what didn't happen. 1379 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,039 When you know, you're innocent, 1380 00:57:34,079 --> 00:57:36,159 and you know you've not done anything. 1381 00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,880 I think that gives you even more determination 1382 00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,880 and stuff to be strong minded, 1383 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,360 and to wanna get through it, 1384 00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,679 and I think in my mind, I'm just like, 1385 00:57:52,519 --> 00:57:55,199 the jury will hopefully see through all this. 1386 00:57:56,079 --> 00:57:57,360 My innocence, if you like, 1387 00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,280 my innocence should come through. 1388 00:58:01,519 --> 00:58:04,800 Anyone could wake up and their baby's sleepy, 1389 00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,960 or, kids have cot deaths 1390 00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:12,239 and that all the time, or die in their sleep, 1391 00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,519 babies, and it's never explained. 1392 00:58:15,559 --> 00:58:16,719 Still not really explained, 1393 00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:18,719 it's still a bit of a mystery. 1394 00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:21,039 So, I'll just have to support Kenzey 1395 00:58:21,079 --> 00:58:24,280 the best I can, whatever the outcome. 1396 00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:28,199 (suspenseful music) 1397 00:58:30,159 --> 00:58:31,840 Listening to the opening speech 1398 00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:33,719 from a prosecutor isn't pleasant, 1399 00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:35,320 because it sounds awful, 1400 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,039 because that's the job of the prosecution team, 1401 00:58:38,079 --> 00:58:39,039 is to present the case 1402 00:58:39,079 --> 00:58:41,559 which is the route to conviction. 1403 00:58:41,599 --> 00:58:43,079 It's a game of two halves. 1404 00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:45,039 And the prosecution have 1405 00:58:45,079 --> 00:58:46,719 to then finish their half, 1406 00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:48,119 and the defense will get their opportunity, 1407 00:58:48,159 --> 00:58:49,639 but some clients don't understand that, 1408 00:58:49,679 --> 00:58:52,079 and so they fear 1409 00:58:52,119 --> 00:58:54,039 that what the jury are listening to, 1410 00:58:54,079 --> 00:58:55,679 or what they're hearing, 1411 00:58:55,719 --> 00:58:57,360 is all very much one sided, 1412 00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:58,559 but they don't realize 1413 00:58:58,599 --> 00:59:00,880 that actually their term will come in due course. 1414 00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:02,960 (suspenseful music) 1415 00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,679 The first day, I did stand up, 1416 00:59:05,719 --> 00:59:07,440 and I shouted out, 1417 00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:08,760 because something they said 1418 00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,480 I knew it was just a complete lie. 1419 00:59:11,519 --> 00:59:12,719 And then I got told off. 1420 00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:14,039 If you do that again, 1421 00:59:14,079 --> 00:59:15,880 you'll be sent down to the cells. 1422 00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:19,000 (suspenseful music) 1423 00:59:19,039 --> 00:59:21,880 Sometimes I don't even feel like a human being. 1424 00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:24,000 The way I'm being judged, 1425 00:59:24,039 --> 00:59:25,360 and the way I'm being spoken about, 1426 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,519 I don't even feel like I exist on this earth. 1427 00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,039 There's so much at stake here. 1428 00:59:32,079 --> 00:59:35,039 You know, it's not just, oh, well, 1429 00:59:35,079 --> 00:59:37,039 we think maybe they've done something, 1430 00:59:37,079 --> 00:59:40,079 or we're not sure, or we don't think so. 1431 00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:44,960 You've got to be 100%. 1432 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,679 Now if all these people think 1433 00:59:47,719 --> 00:59:49,920 that I, or Kyle, 1434 00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:51,440 or both of us has done something, 1435 00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,039 they really think that, 1436 00:59:54,079 --> 00:59:56,599 you're looking at a couple of monsters. 1437 00:59:57,679 --> 01:00:01,320 You know, you are looking at someone 1438 01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,000 that you could compare to Ian Huntley, 1439 01:00:04,039 --> 01:00:07,800 or Myra Hindley, or Fred and Rose West. 1440 01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:11,679 That's how serious this is, in my eyes. 1441 01:00:12,599 --> 01:00:13,880 And if they think that, 1442 01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:17,400 then they think we're monsters. 1443 01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:18,639 And then I'm thinking, 1444 01:00:18,679 --> 01:00:21,679 is that what people think of me? 1445 01:00:21,719 --> 01:00:24,920 (suspenseful music) 1446 01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:28,079 [Narrator] The prosecution have finished 1447 01:00:28,119 --> 01:00:30,639 putting their case against Kenzey. 1448 01:00:30,679 --> 01:00:33,599 (suspenseful music) 1449 01:00:33,639 --> 01:00:34,920 It's gone as well as it can. 1450 01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:36,400 Better than I thought. 1451 01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:39,119 But now we have the defense case. 1452 01:00:39,159 --> 01:00:41,840 So this is where it's the crucial 1453 01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:43,920 and pivotal part of the case, where, 1454 01:00:45,159 --> 01:00:46,480 in my view, the whole case 1455 01:00:46,519 --> 01:00:49,239 rests upon their evidence. 1456 01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,239 The difficult part starts now, 1457 01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:55,000 because she is very much likely to go, 1458 01:00:56,559 --> 01:01:00,960 if I can put it in a skiing term, off piste. 1459 01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:03,599 And that's quite dangerous, 1460 01:01:03,639 --> 01:01:04,760 because we don't know what answers 1461 01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:06,440 she'll give to a jury. 1462 01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:10,280 She's very animated, and she's very vocal. 1463 01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:15,119 So she will no doubt, and happily do so, 1464 01:01:15,159 --> 01:01:17,280 tell the prosecution how she feels 1465 01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:19,360 about the case, and tell the jury. 1466 01:01:20,679 --> 01:01:23,719 (suspenseful music) 1467 01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:26,360 [Narrator] As she contemplates giving evidence 1468 01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:29,639 and being cross-examined by the prosecution, 1469 01:01:29,679 --> 01:01:31,079 Kenzey's visiting a park 1470 01:01:31,119 --> 01:01:32,840 which holds her fondest memories 1471 01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,400 of family life with her daughter and Kyle. 1472 01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,559 I haven't been here since this has all happened. 1473 01:01:39,599 --> 01:01:41,920 'Cause I always thought to myself, 1474 01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:43,760 if I'm gonna come back here, 1475 01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:47,199 I'm gonna come back with everyone, to be honest. 1476 01:01:49,079 --> 01:01:53,599 Somewhere I used to come quite a lot with Kyle. 1477 01:01:53,639 --> 01:01:54,519 When she was born, 1478 01:01:54,559 --> 01:01:56,840 we brought her along one evening 1479 01:01:56,880 --> 01:02:02,079 to watch the sun go down from up on the hill. 1480 01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:04,400 I suppose I wonder, 1481 01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:10,519 I tend to more wonder 1482 01:02:10,559 --> 01:02:11,679 if things weren't this way, 1483 01:02:11,719 --> 01:02:13,559 what would we be doing now? 1484 01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,599 You know, my hopes of the sorts of things 1485 01:02:17,639 --> 01:02:19,239 we would have done together, 1486 01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:20,159 as a family. 1487 01:02:22,199 --> 01:02:23,079 Yeah. 1488 01:02:28,199 --> 01:02:29,079 Yeah. 1489 01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:39,119 You just can't 1490 01:02:39,159 --> 01:02:40,880 really turn back the time, 1491 01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,280 and it's difficult as well, 1492 01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:46,519 because obviously, I always think, 1493 01:02:46,559 --> 01:02:47,639 like had I known, 1494 01:02:47,679 --> 01:02:52,880 and of course I would go back 1495 01:02:55,079 --> 01:02:57,880 in time, and I'd do things so differently. 1496 01:03:13,679 --> 01:03:16,639 (soft piano music) 1497 01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,760 [Narrator] Kenzey's defense begins today, 1498 01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,280 but after a last minute change of heart, 1499 01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:36,360 she'll no longer face 1500 01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,639 cross-examination by the prosecution. 1501 01:03:39,559 --> 01:03:40,920 Following Ronnie's concerns 1502 01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:42,679 that she'll be attacked for refusing 1503 01:03:42,719 --> 01:03:44,000 to accept Kyle's guilt, 1504 01:03:44,039 --> 01:03:46,000 despite his confession, 1505 01:03:46,039 --> 01:03:48,320 she's decided not to take the stand. 1506 01:03:53,199 --> 01:03:54,719 Her legal team are now relying 1507 01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:56,000 on the detailed statement 1508 01:03:56,039 --> 01:03:58,039 that she provided to her lawyers, 1509 01:03:58,079 --> 01:04:00,599 and two key arguments. 1510 01:04:00,639 --> 01:04:02,119 There's no firm evidence to show 1511 01:04:02,159 --> 01:04:03,840 she witnessed an assault, 1512 01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,440 and that even if she knew of Kyle's aggression, 1513 01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:07,719 she had no reason to think 1514 01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,679 he would inflict grievous harm on their daughter, 1515 01:04:10,719 --> 01:04:12,400 especially as social services 1516 01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:15,239 didn't think Kyle posed a significant risk. 1517 01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:22,000 (train rattling) 1518 01:04:22,039 --> 01:04:23,159 After closing speeches 1519 01:04:23,199 --> 01:04:25,679 from the prosecution and the defense, 1520 01:04:25,719 --> 01:04:28,239 the jury was sent out to reach a verdict. 1521 01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:32,360 (suspenseful music) 1522 01:04:33,119 --> 01:04:35,119 Whatever the jury is saying, I know myself. 1523 01:04:35,159 --> 01:04:39,440 I know I have not caused or allowed any harm 1524 01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:40,800 to my children. 1525 01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:44,559 So that is what I've got to keep telling myself, 1526 01:04:44,599 --> 01:04:45,599 you did not do this, 1527 01:04:45,639 --> 01:04:46,840 you did not allow this, 1528 01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:48,920 you did not cause this. 1529 01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,039 That is obviously something I'm gonna have 1530 01:04:51,079 --> 01:04:52,159 to keep repeating myself. 1531 01:04:52,199 --> 01:04:53,199 You're doing this for your children, 1532 01:04:53,239 --> 01:04:54,800 you know you love them very much, 1533 01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:56,079 you would go to the end of the earth 1534 01:04:56,119 --> 01:04:58,400 and back for them, and you're here, 1535 01:04:59,960 --> 01:05:02,639 and you're doing this for them. 1536 01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:07,360 (suspenseful music) 1537 01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:31,960 When you run a case on behalf of the defense, 1538 01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:33,920 you always manage to convince yourself 1539 01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:35,480 there's a bit of doubt. 1540 01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:37,760 You always think, 1541 01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:39,199 when you speak to 12 people, 1542 01:05:39,239 --> 01:05:42,119 and there's 12 people watching the case unfold, 1543 01:05:42,159 --> 01:05:43,159 there are 12 different minds 1544 01:05:43,199 --> 01:05:45,000 from different walks of life, 1545 01:05:45,039 --> 01:05:46,800 and there may well be some people 1546 01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:50,280 that actually have a doubt about the evidence. 1547 01:05:51,199 --> 01:05:52,639 So you always come out of there 1548 01:05:52,679 --> 01:05:54,400 feeling a bit of hope. 1549 01:05:55,679 --> 01:05:58,880 (suspenseful music) 1550 01:06:07,559 --> 01:06:09,159 (train rattling) 1551 01:06:09,199 --> 01:06:10,760 Kyle professed his innocence, 1552 01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,239 saying, it wasn't me, it wasn't me. 1553 01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:16,920 And I think she believed her boyfriend, 1554 01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,280 and therefore didn't want to be seen 1555 01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:20,960 to attack his character. 1556 01:06:21,679 --> 01:06:25,639 And her misguided loyalty to him 1557 01:06:25,679 --> 01:06:27,480 is what caused her to be convicted. 1558 01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:31,440 (suspenseful music)