1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:40,160 --> 00:00:42,080 He always looked for the good side of people. 4 00:00:42,160 --> 00:00:44,840 He didn't look for material things, the economic side or for a nice tracksuit. 5 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:46,080 He wouldn't criticize anybody, 6 00:00:46,160 --> 00:00:49,480 so I thought "you're as nice as you are dumb." It makes me mad. 7 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,560 The smell after playing football. 8 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,360 He left his shirt and they grabbed it. Poof. 9 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,720 And he's like… What does your mom use to wash this? 10 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,440 And, ah, I was going home from work… I heard the news on the radio… 11 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,400 Mmm… I got really nervous. 12 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,560 A huge overwhelming sensation and… 13 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,640 seeing hours and more hours go by and that… 14 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,560 The only one no one had heard from was Dani. 15 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,720 The taxi driver… crying with us. 16 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,920 I still believed that Dani was helping the victims. 17 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,800 I got home, my father was crying. 18 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,760 And I didn't understand, I told him, hey, it's fine, everything's fine, dad, no… 19 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:31,520 Everything's fine, and… 20 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,040 And I got the call about them not being able to find Dani. But… 21 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,640 I had already talked to him, so… 22 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,680 it couldn't be and I was saying that… 23 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,360 He was going to show up and that I'd give him a hug, 24 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:44,960 I wanted him to show up so badly… 25 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,040 And he never showed up. 26 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,200 Up until March 10th, 2004, 27 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,920 I was a normal person, I think I was happy. I had a job. 28 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,440 I was able to send both my children to college. 29 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:21,320 I was working on research on new drugs to treat cancer. 30 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,880 I was a commander in the terrestrial… terrestrial army. 31 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,760 I worked as an electrician and as plumber. 32 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,040 I was a photojournalist at Agencia EFE. 33 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,960 I was a regional dance teacher. 34 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,520 She was in a dance group, too. 35 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,000 I used to work at… the station. 36 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:38,640 I'm a security guard. 37 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,600 I was working as a train operator 38 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,280 at the Madrid commuter trains network. 39 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,640 Back then, I juggled 40 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,920 working as a civil servant and I drove a taxi. 41 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,000 I had two jobs. 42 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:54,920 I was a completely happy girl. 43 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,000 I didn't have any kind of problem, everything for me was… great. 44 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:02,520 My life was… just like any other 19, 20-year-old guy's. 45 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,160 I found out I was pregnant. I was happy. 46 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:18,640 There was nothing 47 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,400 foreshadowing that something would happen that day 48 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,760 different from… any other day. 49 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:26,360 A regular working day. 50 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,560 He kissed me goodbye like every morning. 51 00:03:28,640 --> 00:03:30,760 You have some coffee, you take a shower. 52 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,120 You get dressed and… you leave in a hurry to catch the train. 53 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,520 I remember I bought the newspaper that day. 54 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:38,520 Because Real Madrid had won the day before. 55 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,920 When he said goodbye, his mother told him… 56 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,520 Aren't you going to kiss me goodbye, son? 57 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,320 As he was walking down the corridor… 58 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,960 I had this feeling… 59 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,480 And I thought, "Don't leave." 60 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,880 I saw I was about to miss the train, so I automatically ran to catch it. 61 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:10,000 And I caught it. 62 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,760 When the doors closed, we heard a very loud noise. 63 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,480 We all fell to the ground 64 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,160 and smoke came out. I managed to get out of the wagon. 65 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:27,640 I looked right, 66 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,800 and to my surprise I saw a blown-up wagon. 67 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:32,560 I was on the platform 68 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:36,760 and the wagon to my left and the one I'd just gotten off from… 69 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:38,360 exploded. 70 00:04:39,280 --> 00:04:41,400 What crossed my mind was to get out. 71 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:42,840 To get out of there no matter what. 72 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,480 There is no cowardice in a situation like that. 73 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,120 It's survival. 74 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,880 Through the security walkie-talkies 75 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,200 we were told we all had to go… 76 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:58,120 downstairs… 77 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:00,360 to the platforms. 78 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,880 I threw myself down to protect myself 79 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:04,880 and jumped to the railway on the right. 80 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,320 There a third bomb exploded, 81 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:08,640 and everything went black. 82 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,400 The third explosion hit us upfront. 83 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,600 The blast threw us down. 84 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,640 I was knocked unconscious. 85 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,320 The first shards 86 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,800 of glass hit me 87 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,240 on the left side of my face. 88 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,920 You see… horror 89 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,160 Images that I think… no one should see. 90 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,120 I always sat in the same wagon. 91 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,240 Usually on the same seat, right next to the window. 92 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,600 I remember the beeping sound when the doors closed. 93 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,360 I started the… train. 94 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,000 I didn't hear any noise. You see a flash… 95 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:11,480 and smoke. 96 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:18,160 A black cloud enveloped me and everything started spinning. 97 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,560 I was under a seat. 98 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:21,680 I couldn't see anything. 99 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,120 I started screaming, "What is this?" 100 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,320 I-it's is a bomb. It's a bomb. 101 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:28,200 And I remember nothing else. 102 00:06:28,280 --> 00:06:30,680 I saw through the rear-view mirror… 103 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,560 how the second bomb… 104 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,000 the second bomb exploded. 105 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,080 That image… I have it… 106 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,520 It's impossible to… to forget. 107 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,960 Because of the huge noise from the blast… 108 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,120 it's almost like you're deaf. 109 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,240 You hear like when someone talks 110 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,160 while your head is underwater. 111 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:05,680 That's how I was hearing. 112 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:07,040 I saw things that… 113 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,000 that were really hard. 114 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,720 The first sensation was a lot of light spinning around me 115 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:26,320 and that I had lost control of my body. 116 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,080 I tried to sit up, but I wasn't able to. 117 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,080 We were out and got back in to help people out. 118 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:32,880 While we were taking people out, 119 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,520 the fifth wagon exploded. 120 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,960 I don't remember anything after that blast. 121 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:44,600 Ah… 122 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,120 Lord… protect me. 123 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,440 Uh… me and my family. 124 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:58,120 At that moment… 125 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,520 everything… turned black. 126 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,160 Once we got there we realized 127 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:03,320 just how big the tragedy actually was. 128 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,800 First, our colleagues, we looked at each other 129 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:08,560 and we told ourselves, "Okay, well, what is this?" 130 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,160 Where do we begin? 131 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:11,520 Everything was quiet. 132 00:09:11,680 --> 00:09:14,800 It was dead silence. You could only hear mobile phones. 133 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,800 When I woke up, I knew I was on the train, 134 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,280 but I couldn't see the train anywhere. 135 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,840 I was suddenly on the seat that the woman next to me was in. 136 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:27,920 I realized, 137 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,200 to my surprise, I no longer had pants nor shoes. 138 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,440 The people who were in front of me, who were… 139 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,080 who were right above the bomb were completely torn apart. 140 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,880 My legs were cut up to my knees. 141 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,360 I tried to get up. That was when I realized that… 142 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,920 my legs… It was impossible to get up 143 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,800 because they were completely torn apart. 144 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,160 I was in so much pain. 145 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,640 It was if my whole body had been torn… 146 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,240 my whole body, so much pain. 147 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,000 We began to… 148 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,520 do something called triage. 149 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,320 To determine which patients 150 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,160 should receive medical attention first depending on the injuries they have, 151 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,600 how likely they are to… to survive. 152 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,240 I was helping someone and my partner, well… 153 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,440 she asked, "What can I do?" 154 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,280 And the SAMUR physician who was attending that person… 155 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,120 told her, "Help him die in peace." 156 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:26,960 Help him die peacefully. 157 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:31,280 My partner, well… 158 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,080 she held his hand… 159 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:37,120 and simply waited for him to die. 160 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,360 A firetruck arrived and… 161 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,880 we started asking them to cut the doors 162 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,720 from the trains so we could use them as stretchers. 163 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,720 The windows from nearby houses had shattered 164 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,720 and through those broken windows people were throwing blankets for us. 165 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,240 A friend of hers called me… 166 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,280 and she only said to me, "Bomb at Atocha." 167 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,680 I had my mobile here, I grabbed it… 168 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:09,400 and I called my mother. 169 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,800 He said, "Mom, there was an explosion." 170 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,200 And… he said, "Mommy come, come mommy." 171 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:15,800 "Dad, dad! 172 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:20,400 There was an explosion, and my arm is destroyed." 173 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,400 And then the call cut off. 174 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:25,720 So I went… 175 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,360 to the school to check if she had arrived and they told me 176 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:30,560 she hadn't. 177 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:34,800 I woke up that morning and thought I would call him to say "happy birthday", 178 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,320 it's his birthday today and I should be the first, I'm his mother. 179 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,320 One of the answers to the calls was… 180 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:43,840 "We can't find your sister." 181 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,960 When I called, it went through, but… 182 00:11:48,680 --> 00:11:49,840 no one picked up. 183 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,560 Since we were undocumented people, 184 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,600 we didn't want the police to come and start asking us questions. 185 00:11:56,680 --> 00:11:59,480 I held on to that lady and was asking her to help me. 186 00:11:59,560 --> 00:12:02,040 I told her I had to leave that place because… 187 00:12:02,680 --> 00:12:04,400 I didn't want to be deported, 188 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,600 but she said, "How can you leave if you can't even walk?" 189 00:12:06,680 --> 00:12:08,320 I had blood all over me. 190 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,400 I didn't have papers back then 191 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:15,360 and I was just hoping the police wouldn't catch me because I had no pa-- 192 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,440 I remember… a boy next to me… 193 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,360 He was dead… very young. 194 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,760 One man came onto the train and saw… 195 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,520 a finger… that was moving. 196 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,560 He had a wound in his chest. 197 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,440 When I saw the wound, what I did was put my hand in. 198 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:37,440 I put my hand inside him. 199 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,160 With his hand he… 200 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,040 he lessened the blood loss. 201 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:02,880 In Spain, we felt 202 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,240 the permanent threat of local terrorism. 203 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,360 The terrorism carried out by ETA. 204 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,080 Two weeks before some ETA members had been caught. 205 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,240 They had come to Madrid with a truck full of explosives 206 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,600 and they were targeting something big, but it wasn't known what. 207 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:56,240 It's clear. 208 00:13:56,680 --> 00:13:59,560 ETA has tried to wreck democracy. 209 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:07,320 It was a Thursday. 210 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,400 And the general elections would take place on Sunday. 211 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:16,160 Thus, there was a chance this would directly 212 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,040 impact the election. 213 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,080 Terrorists must know that any government 214 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:24,680 will give them the same answer. 215 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:26,640 And that it will pursue them 216 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,560 until they answer for their atrocious crimes. 217 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,440 This is not the time to talk about anything 218 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,280 but the anger we feel because of this savagery 219 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,000 and the support for the families of the victims. 220 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,560 Once the people that need 221 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,280 medical attention are removed from the area, 222 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:16,600 the areas are secured. 223 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:20,680 An inspection of the scene begins, 224 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:24,200 and all the objects are observed and then orderly removed. 225 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:31,200 Suddenly, we can hear people's voices and screams saying there's another bomb. 226 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,320 And a personal and emotional struggle begins. 227 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,360 The guys from TEDAX told us we had to leave the place immediately. 228 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,360 We had to make sure there were no remaining living victims. 229 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,640 The firefighters didn't know… 230 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:54,800 And we all stayed there. 231 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,400 Because some people were still alive. 232 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:06,080 A colleague heard a noise, heard a moan 233 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,160 and the guy said, "we need to search here." 234 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,320 There was a… a girl… 235 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,480 who was screaming inside, but what we heard was so low. 236 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,440 And indeed, there was a person 237 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:22,000 underneath… several people. 238 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,000 They saw me, they saw that I… 239 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,120 that I was breathing and… 240 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,400 I remember that they said, "This one's alive, she's alive!" 241 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,400 Our first instinct was to grab her hand. 242 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:36,080 And when she grabbed my hand, I remember she held it very very tight, like saying 243 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,600 "I don't know where I am or what happened, 244 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,840 but I know this is what's going to save me." 245 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:45,440 In the end, 246 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,280 two bags with explosive devices were found. 247 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,400 One at El Pozo station, 248 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,920 which had to be neutralized. 249 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,600 The other at Atocha, 250 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:58,440 and despite TEDAX's efforts to deactivate it, 251 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:02,360 they realized that it wasn't safe enough to do it manually, 252 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,720 so it was neutralized by allowing it to explode. 253 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,640 The firefighters had to carry out the hardest job. 254 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:21,680 We were recovering the bodies, and in some cases it was really hard. 255 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,880 I was obsessed with looking at every spot, at every corner 256 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:26,599 so we wouldn't miss anything. 257 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,599 We looked underneath the rails 258 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,000 and by tracing the blast wave 259 00:17:31,079 --> 00:17:33,079 I told one firefighter, "Let's get up on the roof 260 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,760 in case there's anything there." Indeed, there was a dead body 261 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:38,440 on the roof… 262 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:48,560 An incident infinitely more painful… 263 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:53,680 considering how many feelings we experienced. 264 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,120 The wounds were different. 265 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,960 It wasn't a war, and these were not soldiers and there were so many. 266 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:16,760 I'd never seen a clinical chart written on an abdomen with a marker. 267 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,840 The patients arrived completely out of themselves. 268 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,240 Most of them were deaf. 269 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:25,560 I had a burst vertebra. 270 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,680 I was missing a piece of… of my forehead and my nose. 271 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:30,640 I had tubes coming out of everywhere. 272 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,160 The only thing I was thinking of was that I had lost my baby. 273 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,680 It felt… impossible, like a nightmare, 274 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,240 but no, it was real. 275 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,680 I didn't care that I had burns, I didn't care that I had broken bones, 276 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,720 I didn't care that one of my legs had been amputated. 277 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,400 I didn't care about any of that. I was alive. 278 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,920 The blast wave had cut my elbow. 279 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,520 The doctor recommended cutting his arm off, to amputate his left arm. 280 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,440 My husband showed me a picture of my children, 281 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,080 because I couldn't remember I had children. 282 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,080 When I woke up… 283 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,720 My husband, my parents, my family was there. 284 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:19,080 I was trying to tell them how my daughter was dressed. 285 00:19:36,360 --> 00:19:39,040 That same morning I talked to Baltasar Garzón 286 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,160 and told him, "Those ETA people are bastards." 287 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,840 And Garzón told me, "Alberto, it wasn't ETA." 288 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,720 I told Alberto Ruiz Gallardón, he asked me, 289 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,360 and I told him it wasn't ETA. 290 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:52,880 And I remember he said, "What are you saying?" 291 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:54,320 I said, "No, it wasn't them." 292 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,880 He told me it wasn't ETA's modus operandi. 293 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,040 I can tell you at this moment ETA 294 00:19:59,120 --> 00:20:02,960 doesn't have enough operating forces to carry out an attack this big. 295 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,040 The abertzale left is not even considering 296 00:20:17,120 --> 00:20:19,880 as a hypothesis that ETA 297 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,440 is behind what happened today in Madrid. 298 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,520 The Government convened a crisis cabinet, 299 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,120 and to our surprise, we discovered 300 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:33,040 that the people who were called to participate in the crisis cabinet 301 00:20:33,120 --> 00:20:35,680 were people who had little to do 302 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,560 with any police or security department 303 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,840 and had more to do with the Popular Party. 304 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,080 And furthermore, the Director of the National Intelligence Service 305 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,120 hadn't been asked to join. 306 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,080 That was the first time I had a feeling 307 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,600 that things were starting to become delicate 308 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,240 and might end up becoming dangerous. 309 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,520 There were two meetings that morning. 310 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,520 One took place at the Moncloa and was presided by the president, 311 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,200 and another one at the Ministry of Interior, 312 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,160 which was presided by the Minister Acebes. 313 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,400 I wasn't invited to either of them. 314 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,680 There was a meeting of the police higherups 315 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,960 between 12:00 and 1:00 PM at the Ministry of Interior. 316 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,480 One of the police commanders called 317 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,240 the police commander in charge of the TEDAX, who was working 318 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,800 in one of the attack sites, to ask him if he knew anything about the explosives. 319 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,480 And he said it could be dynamite with a detonating cord, 320 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,520 that's what Santiago Cuadro Jaén says. 321 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,800 And Pedro Díaz Pintado says he heard him say 322 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,800 it might be Titadine with a detonating cord. 323 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,400 Both have sworn to death that it was the other that made the mistake. 324 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,920 Santiago Cuadro says he never said Titadine 325 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,800 and Díaz Pintado says he heard Titadine. 326 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,360 That's what he reported to the rest of the police commanders 327 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,800 and what he later reported to the minister. 328 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,080 That morning we were told that what had blown was Titadine, 329 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,400 not goma-2 ECO, which is what actually blew up. 330 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,120 Titadine was ETA's usual weapon. 331 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,840 The Titadine issue is a rumor 332 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,600 that started spreading in the first hours immediately after the attacks 333 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,880 when we still weren't able to determine the type of explosive. 334 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,640 First, because there was no expert analysis 335 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,440 and second, because the expert analysis that was done later 336 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,880 could only determine the type of explosive 337 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,520 used for the explosion, not the brand. 338 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:24,880 And Titadine is a brand. 339 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,640 The President of the Government José María Aznar called 340 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,920 all the main newspapers' directors to tell them 341 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,160 the government was certain ETA was behind the attacks. 342 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:44,080 We received a direct phone call from the President. 343 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,040 He told us then that 344 00:22:47,120 --> 00:22:50,560 the most likely hypothesis they were going with 345 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,800 was that the terrorist organization ETA was behind the attack. 346 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,400 The President of the Government considered 347 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:04,320 ETA directly responsible for the attack without any doubt whatsoever. 348 00:23:22,360 --> 00:23:24,760 We had just closed the edition of the newspaper 349 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,840 with the front page headline 350 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,400 "Terrorist Massacre in Madrid." 351 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,640 And after Aznar's call, 352 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,280 I changed the headline 353 00:23:33,360 --> 00:23:36,280 to "ETA Massacre in Madrid." 354 00:23:36,360 --> 00:23:40,000 How could we not trust the word of the President? 355 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,360 The police, due to the M.O., discarded ETA 356 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,760 almost from the beginning. 357 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,680 I felt pretty uncomfortable… 358 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,240 because an attack of such magnitude 359 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,520 was something that ETA, unless it was a faction 360 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,800 that was trying to split from them, 361 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,200 wasn't interested in. 362 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,440 At this moment, security forces and corps 363 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,440 as well as the Ministry of Interior, have no doubt 364 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,800 that the terrorist organization ETA is behind the attack. 365 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:22,680 There is no possible nor desirable negotiation with these murderers 366 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:27,320 who have so many times brought death throughout all of Spain. 367 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,560 Spanish television is providing you information on the series of attacks 368 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,200 in Madrid through which ETA has tried to plant 369 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,280 the seeds of chaos and panic at the end of the electoral campaign. 370 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,880 The government called the United Nations to demand 371 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,560 a statement condemning the attacks. 372 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,560 They asked and insisted that the Security Council 373 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,320 condemn the attacks. 374 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,320 The government insisted, 375 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,400 that as statement of condemnation was not enough, 376 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:29,120 it had to say that the attacks had been perpetrated by ETA. 377 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,520 The Renault Kangoo was found around noon 378 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,520 and people from the Provincial Information Brigade showed up. 379 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,880 They said that the Renault didn't match 380 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:53,640 the information that a vehicle manipulated by ETA should provide. 381 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,960 When we found the van, there were some remaining 382 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,800 explosive devices and it was determine they were made of goma-2 ECO. 383 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,320 The policemen in charge managed the information correctly, 384 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,280 but it is obvious that there was 385 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,000 a discrepancy between the information provided 386 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,240 and the information the public had. 387 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,800 A van was found 388 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,160 in Alcalá de Henares 389 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,320 and in the front seat we found 390 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:28,280 seven detonating devices and also among others tapes, 391 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,560 we found one in Arabic containing 392 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,400 Quran verses regarding teaching. 393 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:41,040 This made me instruct 394 00:26:41,120 --> 00:26:47,040 our police forces and corps not to dismiss any line of investigation. 395 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,240 I insisted that our main line of investigation, the one the police 396 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,760 and the national guard was considering as essential, same as this morning, 397 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,440 was that of the terrorist group ETA. 398 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,800 Spain is still in shock of this tragedy 399 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,120 caused by the series of attacks that happened 400 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,760 today that, according to most of the hypotheses, 401 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,880 ETA carried out in Madrid. 402 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,840 A letter supposedly from the terrorist organization Al-Qaeda 403 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,520 was sent to an Arabic newspaper in London 404 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,280 and in it the group claims to be behind 405 00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:35,080 this morning's attacks in Madrid. 406 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,920 Al-Qaeda justifies the attacks as part 407 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,320 of old unsettled debts in what they call the Spanish crusade. 408 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,320 It was very painful to see how the issue 409 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,840 of the people who died was slowly fading away. 410 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,200 The dead bodies were taken to pavilion 6 at IFEMA. 411 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,920 Then the autopsies began. 412 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,960 There were many families who didn't know yet 413 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,960 that their relative was dead. 414 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:06,640 They were holding on to the hope that they 415 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,880 might find them at the hospital among the unidentified wounded. 416 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,960 To everyone that approached and asked me 417 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,440 if I needed something, I would answer, "Look for my boy." 418 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,600 I believed my son would show up any minute. 419 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,200 It was past 11. 420 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,640 It was past 12. 421 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,280 All night without knowing anything. 422 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,960 They explained the same thing, as always. Dad had gone to heaven because… 423 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,080 some evil people wanted to take him. 424 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,200 That feeling of not wanting to be called. 425 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:37,720 Of not wanting 426 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,520 to hear your family's name, your daughter's name. 427 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,200 We told a family that… 428 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,640 their relative was dead. 429 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:47,960 And we would accompany them 430 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,560 immediately to identify the body. 431 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,040 It seemed that they had found… 432 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:54,920 Daniel's body. 433 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,240 They had to make a DNA test to identify him properly. 434 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,240 I only remember that I said one phrase. 435 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,040 Please, even if it's a lie… 436 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,120 swear to me… that my son died without any suffering. 437 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,560 The police told me we needed to see a picture. 438 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,960 And I told them it was my daughter. 439 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,160 My husband went in 440 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,080 to identify a person, thinking it was his daughter. 441 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:26,600 But he said it wasn't. 442 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:28,880 And it was his daughter. 443 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,360 It's the hardest thing 444 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,760 any father could go through, 445 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,520 or any mother. 446 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,640 I was so stubborn about being one of the persons going in. 447 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:43,840 And I went in. 448 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,320 And there she was. 449 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,120 And then… 450 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:53,920 that was it. 451 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,200 All of us were wondering, "How can I help?" 452 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,120 All the wounded had someone 453 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,800 next to them holding their hand. 454 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,320 People from the streets. 455 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,000 He held my hand and told me all along, 456 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,400 "Don't worry, we're going to help you." 457 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,320 There were people who were still alive but… no… 458 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,440 They didn't have any chance. 459 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,640 I never imagined someone who wasn't a health worker could do such thing. 460 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,400 In that moment, some people did things that… 461 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,200 that under normal circumstances they wouldn't do. 462 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,880 I thought they were going to leave, but when I said "Let's go look inside", 463 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,200 eight or ten people went in and those eight or ten stayed until the end. 464 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,600 The lines to donate blood 465 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:30,760 had no end. 466 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,840 The taxi driver told me I didn't have to pay him anything and wished me luck. 467 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,400 Everyone showed up. Everyone. 468 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:43,600 "We're not afraid." 469 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,920 While writing an article… 470 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,120 It was so hard to convey 471 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,600 the great pain we were seeing. 472 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,840 Whenever an ambulance passed through, people would clap. 473 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,240 I really wanted to thank the people 474 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,160 for helping us and what they did. 475 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,200 We did everything we could and if I couldn't do better 476 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,280 I apologize, obviously. Right? 477 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,280 To anyone that at that time 478 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,040 cried for us, know that 479 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,120 I will be eternally grateful to you. 480 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,640 I'd never seen my country as united like that day. Never. 481 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:25,440 Two days later, 482 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,120 Spain was divided like I'd never seen before. 483 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,840 We are committed to fight new threats 484 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:37,400 like terrorism, weapons of mass destruction and tyrannical regimes. 485 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,920 The role of Spain in the Iraq occupation was very polemical, 486 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,000 it was very controversial, 487 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:19,600 and it produced large protests in the streets. 488 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,280 It brought to the forefront matters of international politics 489 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,600 for the general public, something that had never happened before. 490 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,000 The interest of the general public in foreign affairs 491 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:30,720 was very limited. 492 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:37,960 Instructions were given to pick up and store bag the evidence found 493 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,720 and to send it to IFEMA. 494 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,440 The judge in charge stated in the report 495 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,960 that the evidence was going to be held at the Puente de Vallecas precinct, 496 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,160 we had to go to IFEMA 497 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,000 and bring everything to the Puente de Vallecas precinct. 498 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,400 While doing an inspection and writing 499 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,640 a report of everything that was inside the bag, 500 00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:05,240 a police officer found the device. 501 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,280 I got a call and they told me they had found a bomb 502 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,480 and that they had already called the TEDAX team, 503 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,120 that they had evacuated the precinct. 504 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:17,680 We took it to a park to be able to deactivate it 505 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,760 more securely and without putting other people at risk, 506 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,520 there we could go slowly, 507 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,440 and we were able to deactivate it. 508 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,560 In the X-ray we could perfectly see 509 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,440 a very long wire that hadn't been properly fitted. 510 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,640 It was like this, which is why it didn't explode. 511 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,960 The backpack contained a phone, 512 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,360 a card and an explosive device. 513 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,120 With this, the police started working 514 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,680 backwards to figure out where the explosive devices came from, 515 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,520 where the phone was bought 516 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,400 and where the card was bought. 517 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,240 Does anyone believe that any sensible government 518 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,080 in Spain after 30 years 519 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,080 of terrorism and after facing an attack like yesterday's 520 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,720 wouldn't logically, 521 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,240 reasonably, believe 522 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,000 that that gang might be behind it? 523 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,040 For some, if it had been ETA, 524 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:30,920 this would be a victory for the Popular Party, 525 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,600 however, for others if the Islamists had done it, 526 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,800 Islamic terrorists, this would give 527 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,840 the south an advantage in the elections that would take place in three days. 528 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,600 The main line of investigation is still ETA. 529 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,440 Yes, it's still the main line of investigation, 530 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,680 this is what I've been told moments ago 531 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,520 by the security forces and corps, who are in charge of the investigation. 532 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:30,760 An anonymous call on behalf of ETA 533 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,160 assures that the terrorist organization was not responsible 534 00:39:33,240 --> 00:39:34,720 and it was published by the newspaper Gara. 535 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,560 The White House offered 536 00:39:41,720 --> 00:39:44,560 an interview with the President and the First Lady 537 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,280 at ambassador Javier Rupérez's residence. 538 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,400 The offer was a surprise 539 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,240 due to the nature of the interview, 540 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,640 but it was normal that the White House press called 541 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,120 the Spanish Television correspondents. 542 00:39:57,240 --> 00:39:59,040 I always believed it was 543 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,160 because of the connection, the friendship 544 00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:03,760 between Bush and Aznar. 545 00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:06,480 It was the first time an American president 546 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,000 visited a foreign ambassador in Washington. 547 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,480 Rumsfeld, Condoleezza Rice were there. 548 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,800 We knew Colin Powell, who had a very high position 549 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,600 in Bush's administration, was coming. 550 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,840 Bush did the interview next to his wife 551 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,000 and afterwards 552 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,000 Lorenzo called me to tell me that Spanish Television 553 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,600 would not broadcast the interview. 554 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,040 At that time, I supposed, 555 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,120 and I still believe it now, 556 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:45,680 that Spanish Television's director 557 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,520 believed it wasn't timely 558 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:50,520 to link… 559 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,800 what had happened in Madrid with President Bush 560 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,640 because that led to Iraq. 561 00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,600 And what I understood 562 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,760 was that Spanish Television's directors were… 563 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,520 trying to keep going with the government's version, 564 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:05,440 which was ETA. 565 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:17,520 Bush held me back and asked if we could talk privately. 566 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,080 He asked me, "Who do you think 567 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,800 is behind this?" And I said, "Well, we believe it's ETA." 568 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:24,400 Then he told me, 569 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,360 "My intelligence services say 570 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,680 there's a chance it wasn't ETA." 571 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,280 When the President of the United States 572 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:31,920 says his intelligence services 573 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,840 are finding out that it was someone else, well… 574 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,120 I called Aznar to told him and… 575 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,640 Aznar, I imagine Aznar knew 576 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,400 much more than I did at that moment, right? 577 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,520 He was already aware of the issue since he… 578 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,840 Let's say the rumor mill 579 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,000 had already started in Madrid. 580 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:19,480 It began with the usual shouts of "No to terrorism…" 581 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,240 but then something starts to come out… 582 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,480 a voice in a… 583 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:30,440 very spontaneous manner asking who was it. 584 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,120 That question, at that demonstration, 585 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,360 that day, already… 586 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,080 told us that the people didn't believe 587 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,040 the government's version. 588 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,960 It seems like some people 589 00:43:17,240 --> 00:43:19,680 want to dismiss the possibility 590 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,600 that the criminal and murderous organization ETA is behind this. 591 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,400 As the investigation continues, 592 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:29,560 there is more evidence pointing to Arabs, not ETA. 593 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,880 Specially when they find phone numbers 594 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,760 through one of the phone cards found next to the bombs. 595 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,200 Those numbers were tracked 596 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,280 and it turned out that the phone card 597 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:44,360 was sold in Lavapies in a store 598 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,200 of an Arab named Jamal Zougam. 599 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,880 Jamal Zougam was a person with a jihadist background. 600 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,240 He was someone who had already been flagged by French intelligence services 601 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,000 for his ties to jihadism. 602 00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:03,280 No Spaniard can be surprised that the priority 603 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,680 is the terrorist organization that's spent 30 years 604 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,120 attacking Spain, and that's caused nearly 900 deaths. 605 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:11,920 That is the priority. 606 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:16,960 I haven't heard it's Al-Qaeda from anyone at the security forces and corps 607 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,680 or that the favor an investigative line 608 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,400 regarding that terrorist organization. 609 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,560 The first detentions were of citizens from Maghreb. 610 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:38,960 Where's ETA? 611 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,560 The head of the NIC had been 612 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:49,000 excluded from both political and investigative meetings, 613 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:53,040 and suddenly the government asks him to make a statement 614 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,040 blaming ETA for the attacks, 615 00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:00,040 when the police already had by noon on Saturday the information 616 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:04,000 of the stores where the phones 617 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:08,200 used in the attacks had been sold. 618 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,760 I met with Minister Acebes in his office 619 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,040 on Saturday at 4:00 PM and I wasn't told anything. 620 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,920 From Moncloa, I'm being asked to say something 621 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,840 that is obviously going nowhere, 622 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,440 and they already know that the ETA trail has no validity whatsoever 623 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,440 and that the Islamist trail is the valid one. 624 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,440 I felt very bad that day. 625 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,960 I felt very manipulated and that day I wanted… 626 00:45:28,240 --> 00:45:30,920 I wanted to quit. But imagine, if that night, 627 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,720 the day before the elections, I had presented my resignation, 628 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,080 I would've directly caused him to lose the elections, 629 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:37,800 and that was a burden I didn't want to carry either. 630 00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,360 Before the ballots open, 631 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,760 the local cell records a video 632 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,080 with the intent of being able to intervene 633 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,000 in the discussion that had already started 634 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,080 in the media and among Spain's society 635 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,200 regarding who was behind the attacks. 636 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,520 The video was made by one of the terrorists dressed as a woman 637 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,440 because that was what he had nearby. Imagine how desperate 638 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,480 they were feeling, the need they had to say, 639 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,880 "Hey, it was us who killed them, not ETA. 640 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,280 It was us, damn it!" 641 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,360 I think nothing should be dismissed. 642 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,400 The police will continue to work 643 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,280 investigating every possibility. 644 00:46:45,720 --> 00:46:48,120 The Minister of Interior subjected himself 645 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:52,320 to a dramatic sequence of public appearances 646 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,400 in which the information he provided 647 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,840 was very volatile, and at the same time very contradictory. 648 00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:03,000 It was extremely surprising that someone like Aznar 649 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,080 wasn't capable of stopping that version, 650 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,680 because it was obvious that the opposition 651 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,680 was going to use the ammunition they were giving them. 652 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,080 On the day of reflection, 653 00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:25,440 the Spanish left went out to the streets and criticized the government 654 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,280 harshly and disproportionately. 655 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,280 In Spain, on the 24 hours before an election, 656 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,680 it is forbidden to make any political propaganda. 657 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,880 Many of the meetings taking place in the streets and in front 658 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,960 of the Popular Party headquarters were organized through social media, 659 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:43,680 which, on top of that, 660 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:47,800 were still unknown or, at least, their use was very rare. 661 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,520 The complaints started very strong. 662 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,640 There was a demonstration in front of the Popular Party's headquarters, 663 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,840 berating the government despite the fact 664 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,080 that there had been no evidence of culpability from the government. 665 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:17,200 There is an illegal demonstration 666 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:21,800 that is also blaming the Popular Party for terrible crimes. 667 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:25,800 The government was in trouble, the opposition had seen blood 668 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:31,360 and the chance to change the election outcome unexpectedly. 669 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:52,200 Spanish citizens deserve a government that doesn't lie to them. 670 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,360 They deserve a government that always speaks the truth. 671 00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,600 The government, since the beginning has acted 672 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,880 and continues to act with full transparency. 673 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:53,280 On Sunday 14th, I went down to vote with my husband and daughter. 674 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,440 Miriam was going to London on Thursday, 675 00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,480 so she sent her vote through mail. I asked to be present 676 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,840 to make sure Miriam's vote was counted. 677 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:04,040 I went to vote. 678 00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,560 I went because my boy 679 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,720 wanted to vote, but they didn't let him. 680 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:39,880 The day of the elections gave the victory, surprisingly, to the opposition party. 681 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,280 I've given orders to have the Spanish troops 682 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,080 posted in Iraq 683 00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:58,080 come home as soon and as safely as possible. 684 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,640 Condoleezza Rice called me to express 685 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,880 her surprise, her shock. 686 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,800 Because they hadn't warned the Americans, they hadn't said anything. 687 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,040 There was this sense that Zapatero 688 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,160 is kind of doing what the terrorists have asked. 689 00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,920 He should have waited long enough so that no one 690 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,320 would think that there was a cause-and-effect relationship 691 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,040 between the attacks and the withdrawal. 692 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,760 Choosing March 11 as the day of the attacks in Madrid 693 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:38,360 had nothing to do with the elections. 694 00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:42,480 It was rather a matter of strategy for the terrorist organization Al-Qaeda. 695 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:48,080 The first evidence of March 11 696 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,720 having been chosen as the day to attack Madrid 697 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,640 dates back 698 00:52:53,720 --> 00:52:57,000 to October 19, 2003. 699 00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,960 An on October 19, 2003, 700 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,400 the general elections hadn't been called yet 701 00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:05,280 in Spain. 702 00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,400 There's objective data indicating 703 00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,640 that the attacks were fully planned in Belgium, in Brussels. 704 00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:14,320 It's a document to be able to acquire a mobile telephone chip 705 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,160 that would be used by the March 11 network. 706 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,280 In those documents, they put two false dates of birth. 707 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,680 One is replaced by May 16, 708 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,360 the date of the attacks in Casablanca, 709 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:31,720 and the other one is replaced by March 11, 710 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:35,280 the day the attacks in Madrid would occur. 711 00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,080 Both pieces of information date back to before the elections were called. 712 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:42,600 Therefore, it's hard to believe that someone was heading 713 00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,520 the presidency and knew he would call for an election on March 14. 714 00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:14,800 With all the data that the national police had gathered, 715 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,600 we started to draw the first conclusions 716 00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:21,640 on all the devices that hadn't exploded. 717 00:54:21,720 --> 00:54:26,080 Once we found out where the mobile phones' chips had been bought, 718 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,720 we were able to locate the phones 719 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:30,720 through the radioelectric network. 720 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,760 And they were near a house we already knew of 721 00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:37,480 which is where the explosives were made, in they are of Morata de Tajuña. 722 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:44,960 That type of explosive came from mines, especially those located in Asturias. 723 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,520 Conchita Mine is a very rural place, 724 00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,280 it was relatively easy to hide big amounts of explosive materials there. 725 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,120 There were explosive cartridges, 726 00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,760 which were not at the munitions dump, as they should have been. 727 00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:02,920 All the explosive devices, as well as the rest of the detonators, 728 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,720 and there were many different types, had all come from the same mine. 729 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,080 The other part of the investigation was now to identify 730 00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,400 all the people who might have had a role 731 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:17,280 in allowing the terrorists to have this amount of explosives. 732 00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,040 The linking piece was 733 00:55:20,240 --> 00:55:23,480 an individual called Rafa Zouhier, 734 00:55:23,720 --> 00:55:26,000 who knew the perpetrators 735 00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,000 and also the people at the mine in Asturias. 736 00:55:29,240 --> 00:55:31,120 And both groups arranged it. 737 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,840 The jihadist cell got their explosives in Asturias 738 00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,680 by trading them for hashish, as simple as that. 739 00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,240 They took them to Madrid and planned the attacks. 740 00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,320 The operation leader of the cell, 741 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:50,800 when he was driving from Asturias with 200 kg of explosives, 742 00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,000 was stopped by the Civil Guard. 743 00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:58,040 They were stopped, identified, and there was nothing against them. 744 00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,680 He was fined and he paid in cash. 745 00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,200 They didn't search the trunk where all the explosives were. 746 00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,040 The car had duplicated plates. 747 00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,000 If instead of a traffic patrol car 748 00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,840 an antiterrorist control patrol car had been there, he'd been arrested. 749 00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,880 There were serious coordination failures 750 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,480 between the Civil Guard, the National Police Corps, 751 00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,120 and also of international cooperation. 752 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,120 There were many lines of investigation, 753 00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,560 but none of them were concrete. 754 00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,560 We knew they had a lot of explosives 755 00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,960 and that they would go on killing 756 00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:36,560 while the could. 757 00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:32,760 Some security guards who were patrolling near the AVE rails saw 758 00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,800 a suspicious vehicle, with two individuals acting suspiciously 759 00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:39,200 and they called the Civil Guard. The people who were there 760 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:43,400 noticed the movement and that they had been found out and left. 761 00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,560 They cut some of the wire to access the rails 762 00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:49,960 and they tried to plant some explosives there. 763 00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:53,400 12 kilograms of explosives with their detonators had been placed 764 00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,200 under the rail and hidden with rocks. As the train passed, 765 00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,520 they would've simply had to detonate them manually. 766 00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,040 They placed it a few meters away from a bridge. 767 00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:05,960 Had it exploded, it would've been a similar carnage to that of March 11th. 768 00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:10,320 Because of the way the explosive device had been placed, 769 00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,360 all the people on the train would have died. 770 00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,720 The General Information Precinct already had information 771 00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:23,920 about the possible perpetrators 772 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,280 of the attacks, and they were all from a jihadist cell 773 00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,840 that was mainly composed of individuals from Morocco. 774 00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:34,200 At that time the only one that had been to Afghanistan 775 00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,240 and had returned to Spain was Said Berraj. 776 00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,400 Said Berraj had to have been the one 777 00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,560 to teach them how to make the explosives. 778 00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:46,960 We were investigating mainly 779 00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,440 all the phone numbers that had been in touch 780 00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:54,640 or had had anything to do with the phones that were used for the bombs. 781 00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:56,080 A point came 782 00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:58,320 when we had a map 783 00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:02,040 that looked like a star with hundreds of points, 784 00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,120 here we placed the different phone numbers 785 00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:08,240 owned by people who could have been involved in the attacks. 786 00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:14,360 One of the numbers really caught my eye 787 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:18,480 because it looked really similar to the batch related to Said Berraj. 788 00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,840 I decided to investigate the phone number 789 00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:26,560 and we saw that the last incoming call 790 00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,080 was from a Spaniard 791 00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:31,000 that had rented an apartment to some Arabs. 792 00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,720 They had given him their foreign number 793 00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,680 and the name of Mohamed Belhadj 794 00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,200 and… at 3:00 PM… 795 00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,880 I called my then boss, my superior… 796 00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:47,080 and told him "I've found the security apartment of the terrorists." 797 00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:48,920 I asked, "Is there someone inside?" 798 00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,480 And Rafa says, "Yes, there are people inside." 799 00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:01,480 Abdelmajid Bouchar was one of the people inside the apartment 800 01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:03,160 and he went down to take out the trash. 801 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,360 This person notices the presence of members 802 01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,760 of the Central Unit of Foreign Intelligence. 803 01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:11,840 The units are dressed as civilians 804 01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,800 and then he leaves the bag in the container. 805 01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:17,560 And he starts running. 806 01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,760 The police couldn't stop him at that time because 807 01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,560 what we didn't know was that Abdelmajid Bouchar was actually an athlete. 808 01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:33,520 The guys up in the apartment 809 01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,120 started shooting from the windows 810 01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:39,920 and for us that was confirmation 811 01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:41,640 that they were the terrorists. 812 01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,440 The amount of explosives that they may still have 813 01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,320 could be high, very high. 814 01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:50,480 It was likely they had it in the apartment. 815 01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:54,160 One of Morocco's State security forces called me 816 01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:57,040 since they already had the names of the people we were looking for 817 01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,000 and obviously the phones had been bugged. 818 01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:02,320 They told me that they had called their families in Morocco 819 01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:03,840 to say goodbye. 820 01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,640 He told me they believed they were going to kill themselves. 821 01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:11,360 The area is sealed off 822 01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:13,960 and all the citizen security units are mobilized, 823 01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:15,800 and GEO is sent, 824 01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:17,520 the Special Ops Group, 825 01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:22,320 to carry out the assault or to negotiate the terrorists' surrender. 826 01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:25,760 We proceeded and went up to the first floor 827 01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:28,200 where the place they were living in was. 828 01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:32,080 We put a controlled explosive device on the door. 829 01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,160 They started shooting from the inside 830 01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:37,960 and we could hear chanting in Arabic. 831 01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:42,440 The chief of the operation ordered us to throw tear gas inside, 832 01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:44,480 and a short while later we saw Javier, 833 01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,320 who was the only one that could see inside through the shield window, 834 01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,680 signaled he could see someone 835 01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,400 and he was talking to someone inside, and he told him, 836 01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,080 "Get out slowly, undress, undress." 837 01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:09,320 The blast wave threw me into the air, 838 01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:11,480 my eardrums were gone, I could barely hear. 839 01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:13,960 When the explosion's movement stopped 840 01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:18,160 and I saw I was fine, I looked up at the building, the assault was over, 841 01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:21,080 everything was about, well, to collapse. 842 01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,240 Then we all got to work 843 01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:27,720 to rescue our teammates who had been buried under the rubble. 844 01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:29,400 We also took Javier out, 845 01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:32,120 who was very injured at that moment. 846 01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:38,680 An object cut his leg and he didn't make it. 847 01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:54,200 We found the remains of seven bodies, 848 01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:56,080 completely destroyed. 849 01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:59,800 The leaders of the cell killed themselves there. 850 01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:08,520 They were the ones who put the backpacks in the train 851 01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:10,160 getting on at Alcalá de Henares. 852 01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:13,720 They got on different trains, left the backpacks and got off 853 01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:15,280 at intermediate stations. 854 01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:25,920 The terrorists had started but hadn't finished 855 01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,880 a series of attacks they had planned. 856 01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,160 They had a house 857 01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:33,440 they had rented very close to Granada. 858 01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:35,680 One of them left a will. 859 01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:38,080 They were counting on the fact 860 01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:41,680 if they weren't detained, their goal was to… 861 01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:45,720 their ultimate goal was to become what they understand as… 862 01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:47,160 a martyr. 863 01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:56,880 The grave of GEO member Torronteras, 864 01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:58,960 who died during the explosion, was desecrated. 865 01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:01,640 The coffin was pulled out, the body was taken out and… 866 01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:02,840 and burnt. 867 01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:24,840 The ones who planned that out… 868 01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:27,680 The ones I asked before… 869 01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:30,240 when, who, and why… 870 01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:35,200 They decided that day, precisely that day… 871 01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:39,320 Well, I don't think they are in far away deserts. 872 01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:42,960 Or that they're in far away mountains. 873 01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:50,480 What do you mean by that? 874 01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:52,480 Your honor, I'm saying what I said, 875 01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:54,440 and if you want to know, 876 01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:55,840 investigate it, your honor. 877 01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:57,960 Don't ask me to take responsibility on that. 878 01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,320 I didn't have much information because we weren't part of the investigation. 879 01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,080 There were no meetings in which we participated 880 01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:08,240 and in which investigation tasks were assigned or distributed to us. 881 01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:09,640 That's after the 16th. 882 01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,800 It doesn't make sense that some common criminals 883 01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:15,720 were able to plan and carry out 884 01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,920 the largest terrorist attack in the history of Europe, 885 01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,680 and which even toppled a government. 886 01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:23,000 You… 887 01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:26,800 insist time and again in pulling an esoteric link 888 01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:29,080 between ETA and Al-Qaeda not because you care about the truth, 889 01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:32,080 because you care that the people-- 890 01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,200 what you care about is that the people keep thinking that there is a link, 891 01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:36,000 because that, somehow, 892 01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:38,840 will allow you to keep defending the lies you told between the 11th and the 14th. 893 01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:42,560 You are the ones who cannot live with the circumstances 894 01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:43,760 in which you won. 895 01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:47,840 You don't care about what's on the reports, or the judicial process, 896 01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:49,640 or the data, you don't care about that. 897 01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:53,720 You have the irresistible need, 898 01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:57,120 irresistible, to say the investigation is not being carried out. 899 01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:01,240 Today instead of the president showing up, an agitator has shown up. 900 01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:10,600 What were you laughing about, your honors? 901 01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:14,040 What we're talking about, your honors… 902 01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:17,040 is of the death and permanent injuries 903 01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:18,880 suffered by human beings. 904 01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:23,200 Of losses that have filled us with grief and bitterness. 905 01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,920 What happened? What madness took over 906 01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:30,560 this country in that moment? Politics cannot steep that low. It can't. 907 01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,440 The 11M commission was only there 908 01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:36,080 so that politicians could throw insults at each other 909 01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:38,880 at the expense of the victims of the 11M. It didn't serve any purpose. 910 01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:02,600 Everything fell apart. 911 01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:06,320 Why? Because there was a change, and a new government came in. 912 01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:07,800 That's the answer. 913 01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:15,680 There was a smearing campaign against the investigative judge, 914 01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:17,760 against the prosecutor. 915 01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:20,040 They wanted, at any cost, 916 01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:23,120 the perpetrators to be the terrorist organization ETA. 917 01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:30,000 A conspiracy theory was created. 918 01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:35,120 Pedro J. Ramírez, from the newspaper El Mundo 919 01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:37,320 along with Federico Jiménez Losantos, 920 01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:39,640 who at that time worked at the COPE, 921 01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:40,960 starts spreading stories 922 01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,760 to hoist a flag 923 01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:45,960 saying that it wasn't clear who the perpetrators were. 924 01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:50,560 We ended up turning coincidences 925 01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:54,840 into evidence and putting them on the front page 926 01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:56,520 with a great reach. 927 01:07:57,360 --> 01:08:02,320 Several theories start circulating and they always include 928 01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:04,920 a link with ETA, 929 01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:08,000 with the Spanish secret service 930 01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:10,520 working for the socialist party… 931 01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,440 The conservation of the trains 932 01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:16,200 has also been the target of many theories. 933 01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:19,040 The contention point here is to understand either that the trains 934 01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:21,720 are the scene of a crime or that they are evidence for convictions. 935 01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:23,680 The trains are a crime scene that, 936 01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:26,240 after the police has inspected it 937 01:08:26,319 --> 01:08:28,240 and has gathered samples and evidence, 938 01:08:28,319 --> 01:08:30,600 goes back to normal. 939 01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:37,840 They talked a lot about links between ETA members 940 01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:41,240 that had gone to Morocco. Where did they find this information? 941 01:08:41,319 --> 01:08:43,200 Morocco never provided that information to us. 942 01:08:43,279 --> 01:08:45,720 The intelligence services didn't either. 943 01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:08,800 We are in a commercial war. El Mundo has to leave 944 01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:11,920 its right-wing newspaper competition, Diario ABC, on the curbside. 945 01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:15,680 Each time El Mundo published a story like this, 946 01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:17,200 with the support of the COPE, 947 01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:19,640 the sales of El Mundo would go up, 948 01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:21,319 and the sales of ABC would go down. 949 01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:27,800 The efforts to mislead the discussion of who was behind the 11M 950 01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:32,800 is the most transcendental and dirtiest journalistic deceit operation 951 01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:36,000 in the history of Spanish journalism since the transition to democracy. 952 01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:40,439 There isn't even a reasonable margin, 953 01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:42,600 not even to cast doubt… 954 01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:46,680 that some people keep casting with a good intention 955 01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:51,000 that there was possible cooperation between ETA and jihadists. 956 01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:55,000 That cooperation has never existed. 957 01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:57,960 There is absolutely no evidence pointing to any kind of cooperation. 958 01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:00,000 Neither direct nor indirect. 959 01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:04,680 Every attempt at linking the attacks 960 01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:08,640 with the terrorist organization ETA was absolutely fraudulent. 961 01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:09,800 There was nothing. 962 01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:13,480 Since the beginning, everything pointed to a jihadist cell. 963 01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:31,400 A damage was done, 964 01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:35,200 unnecessary, gratuitous, and unfair, 965 01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:37,960 to the people who were just doing their job. 966 01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:47,560 Some journalists, 967 01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:50,200 including Jiménez Losantos, accused me directly 968 01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:54,640 of being responsible for a police scheme… 969 01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:59,320 that had planned the attacks. 970 01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:02,320 That I had been an accomplice of a criminal massacre 971 01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:06,000 and had filled the 11M report with false evidence. 972 01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:09,840 My wife, my children… 973 01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:13,080 tried to act normal around me, but… 974 01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:16,240 They were carrying their suffering deep inside 975 01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:18,680 and, in fact, unfortunately, well… 976 01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,400 The consequences were lethal. 977 01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:48,640 To understand what happened on March 11th, 2004 in Madrid, 978 01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:51,120 we have to go back ten years… 979 01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:53,200 to 1994. 980 01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:57,080 That was the year when an Al-Qaeda cell 981 01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:59,560 was formed in Spain. 982 01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:06,760 The Al-Qaeda cell in Spain was formed by people who had military experience 983 01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:09,760 with the Muslim Brotherhood that had fled Syria. 984 01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:13,480 They left an influential leader in their place, 985 01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:15,200 and it was Abu Dahdah. 986 01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:20,160 A real cell begins to form around Abu Dahdah. 987 01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:21,760 They get married to Spanish women 988 01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:25,920 so they can get the citizenship quickly and their only way of life 989 01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:27,600 is to prepare for the jihad. 990 01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:31,200 This cell carried out 991 01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:35,040 financing, radicalization, and recruiting. 992 01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:49,360 Abu Dahdah travelled 993 01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:52,920 at least 10 or 12 times a year with the money 994 01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:54,680 they had collected in mosques in Madrid 995 01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:58,800 to give it directly to Abu Qutada in London. 996 01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:16,480 Two months before September 11, 997 01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:20,000 someone, possibly from Afghanistan, 998 01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:23,920 told Abu Dahdah that they had entered the aviation field. 999 01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:27,160 The call was in Arabic, so we asked the translator, 1000 01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:29,800 "What do they mean by aviation field? 1001 01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:32,600 Do they mean they're in an airfield?" 1002 01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:34,760 But the translator would say, 1003 01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:39,400 "No, it means that they have started to work in the field of aviation." 1004 01:14:30,480 --> 01:14:33,640 The Hamburg cell, led by Mohamed Atta, 1005 01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:37,960 had been in touch with the Spanish Al-Qaeda cell 1006 01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:40,360 led by Abu Dahdah. 1007 01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:43,440 We went to see a judge, we said, "We believe 1008 01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:48,240 that the cell has somehow participated or knew about it beforehand. 1009 01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:50,680 And… I think we should stop them." 1010 01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:58,200 The Dátil operation 1011 01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:02,360 that dismantled the Spanish Al-Qaeda cell was the most important operation 1012 01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:05,640 against Al-Qaeda carried out in Western Europe 1013 01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:07,000 since the 9/11 attacks. 1014 01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:12,320 Most of Abu Dahdah's cell members are detained, 1015 01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:13,760 including their leader. 1016 01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:17,080 However, not all the members of the cell are detained. 1017 01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:22,200 Amer Azizi, originally from Morocco 1018 01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:23,520 and a resident from Madrid, 1019 01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:28,520 was Abu Dahdah's right hand man in the Spanish Al-Qaeda cell. 1020 01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:33,440 He was going to be detained that day when Operation Dátil happened. 1021 01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:35,640 But what we didn't know is that he wasn't there. 1022 01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:38,400 Later on, we found out he had left to Afghanistan. 1023 01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:47,120 He decided to plot revenge against Spain 1024 01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:50,600 because of the operation that had dismantled 1025 01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:52,560 Abu Dahdah's cell 1026 01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:56,240 that he had belonged to until November 2001. 1027 01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:02,440 Amer Azizi, from Pakistan, started 1028 01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:06,600 to give orders so that the remaining members of Abu Dahdah's cell 1029 01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:11,440 that hadn't been detained would start to meet and create a new cell. 1030 01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:21,800 Amer Azizi takes that decision in December 2001 1031 01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:25,120 accompanied by a well-known operative 1032 01:16:25,440 --> 01:16:28,280 of the Islamic group fighting in Libya. 1033 01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:47,360 Throughout this process… 1034 01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:50,680 of planification… Amer Azizi 1035 01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:53,520 becomes part of central Al-Qaeda. 1036 01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:55,760 He begins to climb the ranks 1037 01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:59,440 inside the Al-Qaeda organization. 1038 01:17:00,480 --> 01:17:03,240 He's appointed by Osama Bin Laden himself 1039 01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:06,360 as Al-Qaeda's external operations deputy chief. 1040 01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:21,040 Amer Azizi manages 1041 01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:24,960 to have his plans to carry out a terrorist attack in Spain 1042 01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:30,560 approved by Al-Qaeda's leaders themselves 1043 01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:33,720 through their external operations command. 1044 01:18:13,480 --> 01:18:18,080 In the 11M terrorist network, there are three main components. 1045 01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:21,840 First, what was left of Abu Dahdah's cell. 1046 01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:26,640 The second component is provided by the Islamic fighting group from Morocco 1047 01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:30,280 through their Western Europe network. 1048 01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:33,520 And the third component 1049 01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:37,200 is formed by the common criminals turned jihadists 1050 01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:41,200 that joined in the summer of 2003. 1051 01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:44,640 Thus it would be a great mistake 1052 01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,280 to reduce the March 11 network 1053 01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:50,520 to a small group of criminals radicalized by the Iraq War. 1054 01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:09,640 The trial lasted over six months, it had over 600 witnesses, 1055 01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:12,440 over 90 expert witnesses, 52 lawyers. 1056 01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:15,640 It was a sentence that was studying in depth 1057 01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:18,600 every allegation of each of the parties. 1058 01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:21,320 The defendants were not all accused of the same thing. 1059 01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:25,480 We had a main group that was being accused of having strictly committed the attacks. 1060 01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:29,400 Others were accused of belonging to one of the cells. 1061 01:20:29,480 --> 01:20:33,160 Others were accused of collaborating, others of falsifying documents, 1062 01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:35,520 and others of having provided the explosives. 1063 01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:38,560 In the end, it ended up being a technically complicated trial. 1064 01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:15,160 The big question was who was the mastermind 1065 01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:18,880 and why were the attacks in Madrid planned? 1066 01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:20,320 What was the reason? 1067 01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:28,600 At the trial, they weren't able to determine 1068 01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:31,760 why there wasn't a clear mastermind 1069 01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:33,200 behind the attacks on March 11. 1070 01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:46,600 We had a warrant for his search and arrest 1071 01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:48,960 regarding his ties to the Madrid cell. 1072 01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:52,400 We weren't able to figure out where he was. 1073 01:21:52,480 --> 01:21:54,320 Of course we couldn't locate him, 1074 01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:57,840 and thus we weren't able to prosecute him at that time. 1075 01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:52,720 We got information that an American drone had struck 1076 01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:56,760 a meeting attended by high-ranking leaders of Al-Qaeda 1077 01:22:56,840 --> 01:23:00,280 and that when they checked the rubble, 1078 01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:02,440 they found Amer Azizi. 1079 01:23:06,480 --> 01:23:08,800 When Amer Azizi died, 1080 01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:11,640 the missing piece to figure out 1081 01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:17,040 how the 2004 attacks in Madrid were planned 1082 01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:21,040 was given by a document from US authorities, 1083 01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:25,920 where they detailed how Azizi had died and whom he was with. 1084 01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:33,280 This information was provided by the United Sates intelligence services 1085 01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:35,840 to Spanish authorities 1086 01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:38,880 in September 2006. 1087 01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:45,480 And again, a more detailed briefing on Amer Azizi 1088 01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:48,800 and his role in jihadist activities 1089 01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:51,040 in Spain on March 11th 1090 01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:53,400 was again provided in September 2007. 1091 01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:21,520 Azizi's relevance was not understood 1092 01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:25,600 until he was killed, along with his boss Hamza Rabia, 1093 01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:29,400 discrediting the theory that the 11M cell 1094 01:24:29,480 --> 01:24:32,320 was composed of radicals inspired 1095 01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:35,200 by the words of Osama Bin Laden 1096 01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:38,120 that wanted to contribute to his fight without having any connection to him. 1097 01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:43,040 If this had been known at the time the trial took place, 1098 01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:46,840 the final conclusion would have been different. 1099 01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:49,520 Azizi is the key piece of the puzzle 1100 01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:53,120 that allows us to understand everything that has happened 1101 01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:56,080 and understand the reason and meaning of the attacks. 1102 01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:14,280 The government didn't have enough empathy 1103 01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:18,920 for the shock Spain's society was going through. 1104 01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:22,720 If I had been the president of the government at that time, 1105 01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:26,480 the first thing I would've done is go to Atocha. 1106 01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:30,680 If Aznar had summoned 1107 01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:33,840 the leaders of each political party to Moncloa… 1108 01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:37,640 Maybe in an act of condemnation and solidarity… 1109 01:25:38,440 --> 01:25:40,360 Spain is being attacked. 1110 01:25:40,440 --> 01:25:41,800 We are all together, 1111 01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:44,600 and we're going to face this together. 1112 01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:47,160 Whomever the perpetrator is, 1113 01:25:47,440 --> 01:25:51,520 they're not confronting the government. They're confronting the country 1114 01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:54,320 and all its political forces. 1115 01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:56,840 This picture didn't come about. 1116 01:25:57,960 --> 01:25:59,840 We would've all understood, 1117 01:25:59,920 --> 01:26:02,000 and we wouldn't feel like 1118 01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:05,560 we were deceived. 1119 01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:12,840 If at that time the president had asked all the citizens to remain calm 1120 01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:15,480 that democracy shall remain victorious, 1121 01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:18,200 and that in two days there's an electoral date, and that they can vote as they like 1122 01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:22,000 as long as everyone goes to vote, he would've crushingly won the election. 1123 01:26:52,440 --> 01:26:55,520 It's a sad date, it's a date that had a very negative impact 1124 01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:58,280 on the political and social evolution of Spain, no doubt. 1125 01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:01,520 When we talk about 11M… 1126 01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:04,480 we almost forget that we're talking about the dead. 1127 01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:24,600 The victims have shown me the best part of human beings. 1128 01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:27,680 Gratefulness. 1129 01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:39,680 Respect and understanding. 1130 01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:52,720 It's something that you learn to live with. But you never forget. 1131 01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:54,760 When someone dies, 1132 01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:58,960 they keep on living in other people's memories, but it's very hard. 1133 01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:00,960 We really miss them. 1134 01:28:03,640 --> 01:28:05,280 I don't want to… 1135 01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:08,920 revictimize myself, I am a survivor and that's how I see myself. 1136 01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:13,320 I'd like to believe something like this won't ever happen again, 1137 01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:16,320 but of course what we must not do is forget.