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‎希臘季亞瓦塔最高安全監獄

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‎你是再犯嗎？刺傷監獄裡的人？

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‎沒錯

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‎擁擠又破爛

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‎想不到我會在監獄使用電鑽

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‎該國一些最危險的受刑人住在這裡

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‎那是不幸的意外，我抓起刀子刺了他

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‎我現在是為戴巴拉克拉瓦帽
‎持械搶劫而服刑

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‎三位都是重罪犯

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‎還有新型罪犯：人蛇

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‎我們五個都被判55年

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‎我因走私人口被判109年

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‎這是我下週要待的地方

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‎但我並非第一次鋃鐺入獄

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‎我是拉菲爾羅伊

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‎我在英國曾被誤判謀殺罪

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‎被判無期徒刑，不得假釋

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‎我努力12年才洗刷罪名

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‎現在我周遊各地
‎前往全球幾間最難熬的監獄

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‎深入挖掘最真實的監獄生活

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‎我在往希臘北部季亞瓦塔監獄的路上

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‎這座監獄關的是
‎殺人犯、竊盜犯和搶劫犯

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‎還有其他各種受刑人

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‎但人蛇的比例日益升高

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‎發生伊拉克戰爭
‎近十年來又爆發敘利亞內戰

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‎逾一百萬名非法移民進入希臘

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‎追求新生活

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‎但至少兩萬人
‎死在前往歐洲的危險路途中

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‎因為人蛇不顧他們的生命安全

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‎為了遏止人蛇的行動

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‎政府判以超長的刑期

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‎有時甚至被判好幾百年

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‎人蛇行動極為隱密

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‎對有些人來說，他們是隱形人

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‎但這座監獄裡裡有很多人蛇

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‎這些人入獄後，是否痛改前非？

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‎我會找出答案

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‎我很擔心在這座最高安全監獄
‎會發現什麼

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‎裡面都是希臘最凶狠的罪犯

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‎因為人蛇氾濫，所以也很壅擠

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‎就算在這場危機之前

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‎希臘監獄亟需現金，且以暴力聞名

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‎過來

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‎到了

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‎轉身看我，你嗑藥嗎？

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‎沒有，我不吸毒

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‎請把衣服脫掉，放在那裡

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‎請打開嘴巴

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‎請蹲下

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‎請給我尿液樣本

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‎你是否發現入獄的受刑人

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‎-體內可能都有毒品…
‎-對

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‎大約五成，通常是藥丸

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‎和海洛英

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‎我很驚訝
‎他竟然說接受搜身的受刑人

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‎有五成體內都有毒品

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‎檢驗結果是陰性，來，進來

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‎我會和三個人同住
‎應該只能睡兩個人的牢房

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‎希臘爆發移民危機以來

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‎超過一百名人蛇被送來這裡

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‎其實囚犯大多是外國人

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‎如果只關希臘囚犯

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‎監獄不會人滿為患

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‎你住一號房，從這裡進去

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‎依照監獄的要求

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‎不准受刑人用真名

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‎你們好

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‎不管受刑人是哪裡人
‎多數都會講希臘語或英語

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‎-你好
‎-你好

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‎-我叫尼寇
‎-尼寇

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‎-尼寇，對
‎-很高興認識你，尼寇

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‎-我叫強尼
‎-很高興認識你，強尼

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‎-安東尼斯
‎-安東尼斯

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‎我是拉菲爾，我和你們會住在這裡

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‎-沒錯
‎-我睡哪張床？

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‎-這張
‎-這是我的床？好

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‎這五個月來，這三人同住這間小牢房

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‎你是哪裡人？

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‎-我來自倫敦
‎-倫敦

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‎-來自英格蘭
‎-沒錯

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‎你們國籍都不同吧？都不是希臘人

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‎我是希臘人

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‎-你是希臘人？
‎-沒錯

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‎阿爾巴尼亞人、阿富汗人

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‎可以介紹一下這裡的規定

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‎和日常作息嗎？

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‎獄方上午8點20分開門

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‎下午12點30分鎖門

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‎然後發午餐

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‎下午2點30分，他們又開門…

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‎直到8點40分

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‎之後就吃晚餐

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‎每天都一樣

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‎這個問題大概最重要

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‎誰決定電視開哪個頻道？

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‎老人說了算

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‎沒啦，每個…一起決定，朋友

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‎我們都是朋友

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‎大家都是朋友

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‎好，你們入獄多久了？

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‎我因謀殺罪被關十年了

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‎兩年前被關來這座監獄
‎因為這裡有毒品勒戒所

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‎我之前吸毒

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‎那你呢，強尼？

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‎這是我第二次入獄

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‎第一次是因為大麻

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‎第二次也是大麻

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‎所以大麻害你第一次入獄時

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‎你沒記取教訓

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‎這是生意，我是生意人
‎這是我的生意

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‎謀殺…販毒…

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‎沒錯

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‎人口走私

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‎人口走私

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‎人口走私？

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‎我就在牢區側翼外

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‎它們把我和殺人犯

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‎人蛇還有毒販，關在同一間牢房

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‎這三人都是重罪犯

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‎不管怎麼看，這些都是重罪

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‎但我不知道來龍去脈

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‎他們看起來也都是好人

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‎牢區快上鎖就寢了

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‎牢房裡的確有蹲式馬桶

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‎但沒有熱水

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‎天哪，冷死人

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‎聽說將近一週沒熱水了

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‎我覺得喘不過氣

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‎四個人擠在幾平方公尺的空間

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‎這是我睡覺的空間

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‎牢房裡有電視和飲料這類的東西

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‎還蠻舒適的

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‎但牢房就是牢房

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‎這裡空間很小

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‎你感覺得到

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‎坐在這裡就能感覺到

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‎（第二天）

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‎這是我在季亞瓦塔監獄的第一個早晨

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‎四個人擠在一間牢房
‎還有人發出呼嚕聲，怎麼睡得著？

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‎但強尼顯然可以

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‎強尼！

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‎他每晚都這樣打呼嗎？

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‎相信我，這算小事

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‎你會打呼，真的，你會打呼

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‎才沒有

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‎是嗎？

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‎他根本不信，還說：“我不會打呼”

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‎代表我是第一個告訴他的人

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‎可能這句話太挑釁

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‎房門在8點20分開鎖，上班時間到了

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‎十年前爆發金融危機以來
‎希臘就很缺現金

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‎監獄沒錢修繕

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‎我今天被派去
‎和阿富汗獄友尼寇一起工作

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‎他因謀殺被判無期徒刑，毒癮又很重

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‎尼寇

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‎因為他會蓋房子

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‎他奉命修熱水，給他修理的工具

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‎那我們今天要做什麼？

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‎這裡的熱水管破了，需要修理

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‎好像在計畫逃獄，挖了一堆碎石

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‎受刑人將近一週沒熱水

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‎為什麼要你修理？怎麼不叫…

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‎外面的水電工進來修？

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‎會一些技術或手藝的囚犯就能做

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‎在監獄工作就能早點出獄

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‎季亞瓦塔監獄想出了極富創意的辦法

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‎來應付現金不足的問題

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‎獄方派受刑人保養自己的監獄

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‎受刑人雖不支薪，但刑期可減免

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‎如果知道每工作一天
‎刑期就能減一天

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‎我願意每天做

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‎這個嗎？

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‎-是這裡？
‎-沒錯

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‎想不到我會在牢房裡用電鑽

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‎這裡是最高安全監獄，但我在用電鑽

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‎離外牆近得不得了

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‎你不想拿它鑽破牆壁逃獄嗎？

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‎-不會
‎-不會嗎？

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‎你和外界隔絕十年了

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‎現在不會，快工作吧

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‎對，我們有突破了

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‎終於看到水管了

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‎你累了

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‎想休息嗎？

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‎想，休息一下吧

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‎回到牢區時，就到午餐時間

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‎菜是受刑人做的

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‎我很驚訝地發現，儘管缺錢

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‎以監獄的標準來看，伙食非常好

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‎我們有魚肉

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‎馬鈴薯泥

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‎甜菜根

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‎他們不會便宜行事，份量很充足

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‎很美味，強尼，你怎麼不吃？

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‎我不餓，早上11點吃了玉米片
‎還蠻飽的

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‎你的存糧很夠

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‎早上他還在睡覺，我就餵他喝牛奶了

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‎我餵他，因為他年事已高

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‎你得承認，他已經上了年紀

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‎我們尊敬他，畢竟他比較老

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‎玉米片

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‎一公升的牛奶配玉米片

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‎一到下午開鎖時間，門會自動打開

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‎所有受刑人又走出牢房談天說地

205
00:12:39,043 --> 00:12:40,843
‎去工作或打電話

206
00:12:41,563 --> 00:12:45,443
‎有些人走出牢房，有些人沒有
‎因為這裡的制度很自由

207
00:12:45,523 --> 00:12:49,403
‎比某些監獄輕鬆一點

208
00:12:51,923 --> 00:12:54,323
‎我和尼寇繼續上工以前

209
00:12:54,403 --> 00:12:59,283
‎我想知道他的歐洲之旅
‎怎麼以謀殺案收場

210
00:13:00,203 --> 00:13:01,883
‎尼寇來自阿富汗

211
00:13:02,643 --> 00:13:05,083
‎他17歲時偷渡來這裡

212
00:13:05,563 --> 00:13:09,683
‎當時塔利班正和美國領導的軍隊奮戰

213
00:13:11,483 --> 00:13:12,843
‎你小時候住哪裡？

214
00:13:12,923 --> 00:13:13,843
‎馬札爾沙里夫

215
00:13:14,603 --> 00:13:16,763
‎我還沒出生，我爸就死了

216
00:13:17,323 --> 00:13:19,363
‎我有四個兄弟

217
00:13:19,923 --> 00:13:25,363
‎我得工作支持我母親

218
00:13:25,443 --> 00:13:27,963
‎我們很窮

219
00:13:28,043 --> 00:13:30,843
‎常常沒東西吃

220
00:13:31,763 --> 00:13:33,203
‎你怎麼進來希臘的？

221
00:13:33,283 --> 00:13:36,043
‎我穿過伊朗，然後是土耳其

222
00:13:36,123 --> 00:13:39,123
‎一輛卡車塞了120人

223
00:13:39,203 --> 00:13:43,403
‎我付給人蛇500美元

224
00:13:43,483 --> 00:13:45,643
‎車子連開13小時都沒停下

225
00:13:45,723 --> 00:13:52,643
‎換車後，晚上待在山裡面

226
00:13:52,723 --> 00:13:55,803
‎我在土耳其待一晚，又付了1200歐元

227
00:13:55,883 --> 00:13:57,603
‎隔天就抵達希臘

228
00:13:58,163 --> 00:14:01,843
‎120人當中，多少人撐到終點？

229
00:14:01,923 --> 00:14:07,363
‎很少，沒錢的人會被囚禁…

230
00:14:10,683 --> 00:14:17,083
‎直到付得出錢為止

231
00:14:17,163 --> 00:14:20,203
‎他們被當成奴隸

232
00:14:21,563 --> 00:14:26,083
‎有些餓死了，有些渴死了

233
00:14:27,603 --> 00:14:34,323
‎很多人在伊朗遭到警方逮捕

234
00:14:36,043 --> 00:14:40,363
‎在山裡被發現的會被射殺

235
00:14:43,843 --> 00:14:47,163
‎你進入希臘，成了非法移民

236
00:14:47,243 --> 00:14:49,123
‎怎麼活下來的？做什麼工作？

237
00:14:49,203 --> 00:14:52,243
‎我唯一能做的是為農夫工作

238
00:14:52,323 --> 00:14:54,883
‎我做了五到七個月

239
00:14:55,483 --> 00:15:02,043
‎我耐心地要他發薪水，他一直不甩我

240
00:15:02,603 --> 00:15:03,923
‎那你怎麼做？

241
00:15:06,163 --> 00:15:10,483
‎我告訴他：“不付薪水，我就修理你”

242
00:15:11,083 --> 00:15:12,883
‎我抓起刀子刺了他

243
00:15:14,123 --> 00:15:16,523
‎你只刺了他一次？

244
00:15:16,603 --> 00:15:21,443
‎沒錯，他不幸被我一刀殺死

245
00:15:25,603 --> 00:15:27,323
‎我刺了他這裡

246
00:15:27,403 --> 00:15:28,563
‎原來你刺了他…

247
00:15:29,963 --> 00:15:35,163
‎我無意殺他，那不是預謀

248
00:15:39,443 --> 00:15:41,363
‎你曾在獄中被抓到吸毒嗎？

249
00:15:41,443 --> 00:15:44,363
‎你曾吸毒來逃避監獄的現實嗎？

250
00:15:44,443 --> 00:15:48,203
‎我媽死後，我吸海洛英六個月

251
00:15:48,283 --> 00:15:52,203
‎感覺就像死刑

252
00:15:52,283 --> 00:15:55,923
‎我喪失求生意志

253
00:15:57,563 --> 00:16:01,323
‎我和尼寇必須繼續修熱水管了

254
00:16:01,923 --> 00:16:05,283
‎尼寇顯然有心理問題，也很易怒

255
00:16:05,923 --> 00:16:09,683
‎關於他的暴力史
‎他還有很多可以分享

256
00:16:10,483 --> 00:16:13,163
‎我選擇做這件事是因為

257
00:16:13,923 --> 00:16:20,203
‎我能忘記我的刑期

258
00:16:20,283 --> 00:16:23,443
‎我可以殺時間，不去想這些鳥事

259
00:16:23,523 --> 00:16:26,083
‎例如刺殺別人或找毒品

260
00:16:28,643 --> 00:16:30,883
‎你曾在獄中刺別人嗎？

261
00:16:30,963 --> 00:16:32,483
‎我有過

262
00:16:35,083 --> 00:16:36,123
‎對方死了嗎？

263
00:16:36,163 --> 00:16:38,363
‎沒死，但受重傷

264
00:16:41,243 --> 00:16:42,803
‎幹嘛要刺了他？

265
00:16:42,883 --> 00:16:45,243
‎他欠我錢

266
00:16:50,803 --> 00:16:52,523
‎你刺了他幾次？

267
00:16:53,763 --> 00:16:56,763
‎刺了三次，刑期多十年

268
00:16:56,843 --> 00:16:59,723
‎我犯了錯，進了監獄
‎付出了慘痛的代價

269
00:16:59,803 --> 00:17:02,723
‎這就是人生，做錯事就要付出代價

270
00:17:03,843 --> 00:17:05,883
‎我仍在努力了解尼寇

271
00:17:06,923 --> 00:17:08,763
‎我覺得他是個謎題

272
00:17:08,843 --> 00:17:12,843
‎他在各國之間偷渡的人生經歷

273
00:17:12,923 --> 00:17:17,923
‎想減輕無期徒刑的刑期
‎大大影響了他的想法

274
00:17:18,483 --> 00:17:21,363
‎他經歷過令人難過的旅程

275
00:17:21,883 --> 00:17:24,483
‎但他也無故殺人

276
00:17:24,563 --> 00:17:25,963
‎他說是為了錢

277
00:17:26,043 --> 00:17:29,283
‎但在獄裡又重蹈覆轍

278
00:17:29,883 --> 00:17:33,363
‎主管當局覺得對此頗為擔心

279
00:17:34,043 --> 00:17:38,403
‎重點是，他無期徒刑已經服了十年

280
00:17:38,483 --> 00:17:41,363
‎當時，他自稱已經改過自新

281
00:17:43,843 --> 00:17:46,043
‎尼寇的故事提醒了我們

282
00:17:46,123 --> 00:17:49,723
‎這座監獄潛藏了很多危險

283
00:17:51,963 --> 00:17:56,043
‎回到側翼，獄警鎖定一間牢房

284
00:17:56,123 --> 00:17:59,043
‎要搜索電話、毒品和武器

285
00:18:00,283 --> 00:18:03,123
‎他們每天都做這種事嗎？

286
00:18:03,203 --> 00:18:04,523
‎搜索牢房？

287
00:18:04,603 --> 00:18:07,043
‎我們的確會每天搜索

288
00:18:07,123 --> 00:18:09,883
‎每天會搜索不同樓層的不同牢房

289
00:18:13,883 --> 00:18:19,963
‎我們先把囚犯叫出牢房

290
00:18:20,043 --> 00:18:24,203
‎然後對每個人搜身

291
00:18:24,283 --> 00:18:28,443
‎獄警再進去搜索牢房

292
00:18:33,723 --> 00:18:35,963
‎這可能會有問題

293
00:18:36,043 --> 00:18:39,243
‎囚犯會不爽我們搜查他們家

294
00:18:44,243 --> 00:18:45,563
‎他們在找什麼？

295
00:18:45,643 --> 00:18:48,723
‎毒品、私酒和自製刀具

296
00:18:49,483 --> 00:18:51,203
‎這次沒找到什麼

297
00:18:51,283 --> 00:18:54,083
‎但資深獄警迪米崔佩卓包羅斯

298
00:18:54,163 --> 00:18:57,443
‎熱切地告訴我，有時不是這樣

299
00:18:59,523 --> 00:19:04,363
‎看看我們去年沒收的違禁品

300
00:19:06,963 --> 00:19:11,443
‎你們在受刑人的牢房找到這些？
‎全是危險的武器

301
00:19:11,523 --> 00:19:13,963
‎有些很有趣

302
00:19:14,603 --> 00:19:17,763
‎我們通常不搜查宗教物品

303
00:19:19,283 --> 00:19:24,443
‎但它們可能也具危險性

304
00:19:24,523 --> 00:19:29,603
‎囚犯再親切
‎你還是必須隨時保持警戒

305
00:19:30,803 --> 00:19:35,563
‎（心魂永懷同胞愛）

306
00:19:41,283 --> 00:19:43,843
‎（第三天）

307
00:19:43,923 --> 00:19:49,363
‎這是我在希臘季亞瓦塔監獄
‎當囚犯的第三天

308
00:19:50,323 --> 00:19:54,683
‎獄警還沒開門，但我們得上工了

309
00:19:54,763 --> 00:19:57,803
‎牢房房門內側沒有把手

310
00:19:59,843 --> 00:20:03,603
‎上午9點，我的獄友全在認真工作

311
00:20:03,683 --> 00:20:07,083
‎一次減刑一天

312
00:20:08,043 --> 00:20:11,803
‎尼寇在努力修好監獄的熱水

313
00:20:13,243 --> 00:20:17,523
‎因販毒入獄的強尼在獄中的商店

314
00:20:19,323 --> 00:20:22,443
‎安東尼斯，因人口走私而判刑

315
00:20:22,523 --> 00:20:26,563
‎拿到一份輕鬆的差事
‎幫獄方員工泡咖啡

316
00:20:27,083 --> 00:20:31,563
‎他盡量每天工作，好減輕刑期

317
00:20:32,523 --> 00:20:33,523
‎乾杯

318
00:20:34,083 --> 00:20:35,003
‎乾杯

319
00:20:38,523 --> 00:20:41,923
‎安東尼斯帶我看運動場

320
00:20:47,203 --> 00:20:51,203
‎踏出室外那一刻，我眼睛睜不開

321
00:20:54,523 --> 00:20:59,003
‎想要記起我們在
‎希臘最高安全監獄的話

322
00:20:59,083 --> 00:21:02,243
‎只要看看有獄警手持類似衝鋒槍的

323
00:21:02,323 --> 00:21:04,363
‎警界塔就好

324
00:21:06,883 --> 00:21:11,083
‎安東尼斯盡心工作，希望能減輕刑期

325
00:21:11,163 --> 00:21:13,243
‎所以很少到戶外

326
00:21:15,723 --> 00:21:18,563
‎我很久沒到室外了

327
00:21:19,523 --> 00:21:21,723
‎那你上次走出來是什麼時候？

328
00:21:22,283 --> 00:21:23,643
‎八個月前

329
00:21:23,723 --> 00:21:25,203
‎等等，我要搞清楚

330
00:21:25,283 --> 00:21:28,723
‎你是說你八個月

331
00:21:28,803 --> 00:21:29,843
‎沒走到運動場了？

332
00:21:29,923 --> 00:21:31,283
‎-沒錯
‎-為什麼？

333
00:21:31,363 --> 00:21:35,523
‎因為我一直在工作

334
00:21:36,883 --> 00:21:38,883
‎-這是什麼？槓鈴嗎？
‎-沒錯

335
00:21:39,523 --> 00:21:43,283
‎既然到了戶外
‎就趁機看看監獄的健身房

336
00:21:43,363 --> 00:21:45,643
‎這裡是運動區

337
00:21:46,603 --> 00:21:48,963
‎雖然沒錢買適當的健身器材

338
00:21:49,043 --> 00:21:50,563
‎但他們會隨機應變

339
00:21:50,643 --> 00:21:53,443
‎天哪，好重

340
00:21:54,403 --> 00:21:56,723
‎這是專滿砂子的水瓶

341
00:21:57,203 --> 00:21:58,243
‎好

342
00:21:58,323 --> 00:22:01,403
‎我決定和柯斯塔斯比肌力

343
00:22:01,483 --> 00:22:03,723
‎他好像很認真練舉重

344
00:22:04,243 --> 00:22:05,363
‎我先來

345
00:22:06,483 --> 00:22:07,443
‎-好了嗎？
‎-好了

346
00:22:10,563 --> 00:22:11,643
‎好輕

347
00:22:17,323 --> 00:22:20,123
‎換柯斯塔斯展現他的能耐

348
00:22:32,123 --> 00:22:33,763
‎愛現，你這是在炫耀

349
00:22:35,243 --> 00:22:37,363
‎但他比我魁梧吧？

350
00:22:42,363 --> 00:22:47,123
‎我知道安東尼斯因走私人口被判重刑

351
00:22:47,203 --> 00:22:50,843
‎這在希臘被列為重罪

352
00:22:50,923 --> 00:22:55,563
‎因為會威脅邊境安全
‎和危及移民生命

353
00:22:55,643 --> 00:22:58,163
‎你怎麼會參與…

354
00:22:59,763 --> 00:23:00,883
‎人口走私？

355
00:23:00,963 --> 00:23:05,843
‎我朋友在做這一行

356
00:23:05,923 --> 00:23:07,363
‎我幫他忙

357
00:23:07,443 --> 00:23:09,443
‎我也有認識出租廂型車的人

358
00:23:10,923 --> 00:23:13,603
‎所以我介紹他們彼此認識

359
00:23:13,683 --> 00:23:15,443
‎你知道他要偷渡人口嗎？

360
00:23:15,523 --> 00:23:16,363
‎知道

361
00:23:16,443 --> 00:23:17,403
‎後來怎麼了？

362
00:23:17,963 --> 00:23:20,003
‎警方逮捕我們

363
00:23:20,083 --> 00:23:22,603
‎五人都被判55年

364
00:23:22,683 --> 00:23:24,763
‎所以你要被關55年？

365
00:23:24,843 --> 00:23:26,523
‎還有50萬歐元罰金

366
00:23:28,243 --> 00:23:32,043
‎你接受自己在這起事件中的角色嗎？

367
00:23:32,643 --> 00:23:34,843
‎我只是是介紹人

368
00:23:36,043 --> 00:23:38,083
‎沒負責偷渡人口

369
00:23:38,163 --> 00:23:41,843
‎我沒放在心上，誰可能會做這種事

370
00:23:44,683 --> 00:23:48,443
‎他說自己是小角色，卻被判55年

371
00:23:48,523 --> 00:23:53,043
‎他話中透露出，他不覺得自己有錯

372
00:23:54,363 --> 00:23:56,803
‎不管他的說詞真實與否

373
00:23:56,883 --> 00:24:01,483
‎這座監獄關了超過一百位
‎像安東尼斯這種人蛇

374
00:24:01,563 --> 00:24:04,443
‎佔囚犯的比例四分之一以上

375
00:24:09,123 --> 00:24:11,203
‎除了沒熱水

376
00:24:11,763 --> 00:24:14,563
‎這棟破爛的建築物又浮現新的危機

377
00:24:14,643 --> 00:24:16,563
‎拉菲爾，你有空嗎？

378
00:24:16,643 --> 00:24:21,003
‎備用發電機壞了

379
00:24:21,083 --> 00:24:24,243
‎我被派去幫柯斯塔斯修理

380
00:24:24,323 --> 00:24:26,603
‎今早舉重打敗我的那個傢伙

381
00:24:28,363 --> 00:24:29,363
‎柯斯塔斯？

382
00:24:30,483 --> 00:24:32,643
‎你們兩個今天修理發電機

383
00:24:32,723 --> 00:24:33,883
‎好，再見

384
00:24:33,963 --> 00:24:35,203
‎好

385
00:24:35,283 --> 00:24:38,723
‎我們要修發電機

386
00:24:40,003 --> 00:24:42,803
‎我們先改排氣管

387
00:24:44,003 --> 00:24:47,083
‎柯斯塔斯36歲，是卡車司機

388
00:24:47,163 --> 00:24:50,443
‎他是維持這座監獄運作順暢的要角

389
00:24:51,043 --> 00:24:53,043
‎這要歸功於他懂機械

390
00:24:57,003 --> 00:24:57,923
‎給我…

391
00:24:58,603 --> 00:24:59,603
‎-這個？
‎-‎沒錯

392
00:25:01,363 --> 00:25:02,363
‎和木板

393
00:25:02,443 --> 00:25:03,563
‎這塊木板？

394
00:25:07,923 --> 00:25:09,683
‎你做這個工作多久了？

395
00:25:09,763 --> 00:25:10,603
‎三年

396
00:25:10,683 --> 00:25:12,523
‎代表你被關這麼久了？

397
00:25:12,603 --> 00:25:13,483
‎沒錯

398
00:25:16,523 --> 00:25:20,803
‎想不到柯斯塔斯和我的獄友安東尼斯

399
00:25:20,883 --> 00:25:23,163
‎同屬一個偷運集團

400
00:25:23,683 --> 00:25:26,843
‎那談談你犯的罪行

401
00:25:26,923 --> 00:25:28,803
‎你因為走私人口被判刑

402
00:25:28,883 --> 00:25:31,523
‎我負責載他們

403
00:25:31,603 --> 00:25:36,443
‎這些人到了埃夫羅斯州邊境
‎我再運送他們

404
00:25:36,523 --> 00:25:40,203
‎用卡車載他們到塞薩洛尼基

405
00:25:40,283 --> 00:25:42,563
‎我想站在你的角度思考

406
00:25:42,643 --> 00:25:45,443
‎想像我開著卡車

407
00:25:45,523 --> 00:25:49,123
‎偷渡的人怎麼上卡車的？

408
00:25:49,203 --> 00:25:51,003
‎在高速公路上

409
00:25:51,843 --> 00:25:57,523
‎某些地點有公廁

410
00:25:57,603 --> 00:25:59,843
‎他們在那裏等，我們會去接他們

411
00:25:59,923 --> 00:26:01,003
‎99個人

412
00:26:01,083 --> 00:26:06,443
‎那輛卡車非常大，空間很夠

413
00:26:06,523 --> 00:26:07,843
‎你怎麼被抓的？

414
00:26:08,883 --> 00:26:11,603
‎我在加油站停車

415
00:26:11,683 --> 00:26:13,883
‎警察把我攔下來

416
00:26:13,963 --> 00:26:15,083
‎你被判幾年？

417
00:26:15,163 --> 00:26:21,163
‎我因人口走私被判109年

418
00:26:21,243 --> 00:26:23,323
‎109年年？

419
00:26:23,403 --> 00:26:28,083
‎依照希臘的規定，不管刑期是幾年

420
00:26:28,163 --> 00:26:31,283
‎你最多被關20年

421
00:26:31,363 --> 00:26:33,523
‎20年還是很久

422
00:26:34,363 --> 00:26:35,203
‎你為何這麼做？

423
00:26:36,083 --> 00:26:41,483
‎我的主要動機是錢

424
00:26:41,563 --> 00:26:43,203
‎你賺多少？

425
00:26:51,363 --> 00:26:52,403
‎別問了，拜託別問了

426
00:26:52,483 --> 00:26:53,363
‎好

427
00:26:53,443 --> 00:26:56,203
‎他口風很緊，我不意外

428
00:26:56,283 --> 00:26:59,723
‎每個移民通常要付人蛇幾千歐元

429
00:26:59,803 --> 00:27:06,763
‎柯斯塔斯一幫人偷運99個人
‎可以賺50萬歐元以上

430
00:27:06,843 --> 00:27:07,803
‎好，繼續吧

431
00:27:08,363 --> 00:27:12,443
‎我沒傷害誰，我沒殺人

432
00:27:12,523 --> 00:27:15,963
‎人口走私幾年前還只是輕罪

433
00:27:16,603 --> 00:27:20,163
‎現在屬於刑事罪
‎我覺得違反比例原則

434
00:27:22,203 --> 00:27:25,603
‎我也許是受刑人，但我沒犯法

435
00:27:27,723 --> 00:27:29,803
‎他的話的確認我想到

436
00:27:29,883 --> 00:27:36,003
‎109年是想幫助
‎這些逃離戰亂國家的人

437
00:27:36,083 --> 00:27:40,043
‎還是伸張生命的正義？

438
00:27:41,723 --> 00:27:44,043
‎以柯斯塔斯來說，他是為了錢

439
00:27:44,723 --> 00:27:46,683
‎這是金融產業

440
00:27:46,763 --> 00:27:50,243
‎人口走私行動涉及大筆金錢

441
00:27:50,323 --> 00:27:52,323
‎和許多人士

442
00:27:53,163 --> 00:27:56,843
‎但我無法想像倉皇逃難的男女老幼

443
00:27:56,923 --> 00:28:01,443
‎最後死在卡車後面是什麼光景

444
00:28:01,523 --> 00:28:03,683
‎你知道，擠得像沙丁魚

445
00:28:03,763 --> 00:28:07,843
‎耗盡家財，只為了逃到安全之地

446
00:28:07,923 --> 00:28:10,323
‎冀望能有更美好的人生

447
00:28:23,723 --> 00:28:25,763
‎我認識的兩個人蛇

448
00:28:25,843 --> 00:28:29,843
‎淡化了他們涉及案件的嚴重性

449
00:28:29,923 --> 00:28:33,243
‎但我聽說離監獄不到5公里

450
00:28:33,723 --> 00:28:38,363
‎有一座偷渡到希臘的難民營

451
00:28:39,003 --> 00:28:42,203
‎今天我要出獄一天

452
00:28:42,283 --> 00:28:44,363
‎去聽聽他們的說法

453
00:28:44,883 --> 00:28:48,243
‎希臘有很多這種難民營

454
00:28:48,323 --> 00:28:51,003
‎其中的移民和難民在尋求政治庇護

455
00:28:51,523 --> 00:28:54,443
‎很多人經歷千辛萬苦
‎冒著生命危險之後

456
00:28:54,523 --> 00:28:56,883
‎來到這裡都鬆了一口氣

457
00:28:58,363 --> 00:29:01,243
‎希臘有幾十座這種難民營

458
00:29:01,323 --> 00:29:04,323
‎光是這座就有了七百人

459
00:29:05,683 --> 00:29:06,523
‎亞邁德先生？

460
00:29:07,003 --> 00:29:09,483
‎亞邁德哈吉來自伊拉克北部

461
00:29:10,123 --> 00:29:12,963
‎他和他的大家庭
‎因當地衝突激烈而逃出來

462
00:29:13,443 --> 00:29:15,123
‎他們雇用了一名人蛇

463
00:29:15,203 --> 00:29:18,963
‎他保證會帶他們到西歐
‎給他們更好的未來

464
00:29:19,443 --> 00:29:22,883
‎但事實上，他們被困在希臘

465
00:29:22,963 --> 00:29:26,563
‎住在這個金屬盒裡三年半了

466
00:29:27,403 --> 00:29:29,643
‎聊聊你的逃難的經過

467
00:29:30,043 --> 00:29:31,963
‎我跑到土耳其的伊斯坦堡

468
00:29:32,043 --> 00:29:35,043
‎在那裏找到一名人蛇

469
00:29:35,123 --> 00:29:40,483
‎我付他將近8萬歐元

470
00:29:40,963 --> 00:29:45,163
‎我們做了快兩小時的車

471
00:29:45,763 --> 00:29:50,203
‎又走了七小時才到邊境

472
00:29:50,283 --> 00:29:52,563
‎有一條河

473
00:29:52,643 --> 00:29:55,883
‎船很小

474
00:29:55,963 --> 00:30:00,283
‎本來只能載14或20個人
‎但他們塞了47個人上去

475
00:30:00,363 --> 00:30:06,763
‎他們把我們所有家當都丟了
‎好騰出空間給我們

476
00:30:07,243 --> 00:30:10,403
‎我們必須把小孩塞在腳下

477
00:30:10,483 --> 00:30:14,803
‎那是一條大河…很寬，坐船很不舒服

478
00:30:15,843 --> 00:30:20,483
‎我的家人和四個兒子一度被河水沖走

479
00:30:20,563 --> 00:30:23,363
‎我們被沖走100公尺
‎當時想著：“完了！”

480
00:30:24,163 --> 00:30:27,523
‎亞邁德一家人很幸運

481
00:30:27,603 --> 00:30:30,203
‎有一個人我認識

482
00:30:30,283 --> 00:30:32,283
‎他比我們早兩個月離開

483
00:30:33,163 --> 00:30:37,323
‎他掉進河裡
‎老婆和兩個小孩都淹死了

484
00:30:37,403 --> 00:30:40,243
‎屍身一直沒找到

485
00:30:41,843 --> 00:30:46,723
‎每年超過一千位移民
‎在逃到歐洲的途中喪生

486
00:30:48,123 --> 00:30:51,483
‎你和人蛇碰面時，他們怎麼保證的？

487
00:30:51,563 --> 00:30:54,683
‎我們計劃直接逃到保加利亞

488
00:30:56,723 --> 00:30:59,243
‎所以我們才付高價

489
00:30:59,923 --> 00:31:03,123
‎但他們騙了我，把我帶到這裡

490
00:31:03,683 --> 00:31:05,163
‎在某些偷運途中

491
00:31:05,843 --> 00:31:08,723
‎其他人蛇甚至會搶劫難民

492
00:31:08,803 --> 00:31:11,483
‎你是否料到，你逃出伊拉克

493
00:31:11,563 --> 00:31:13,763
‎付給人…人蛇這麼多錢
‎會過這種生活？

494
00:31:13,843 --> 00:31:15,563
‎淪落到難民營？

495
00:31:15,643 --> 00:31:18,843
‎人蛇都在說謊，全是一派胡言

496
00:31:19,323 --> 00:31:21,403
‎這件事真令人震驚

497
00:31:21,483 --> 00:31:23,763
‎謝謝你分享你的故事

498
00:31:26,843 --> 00:31:32,523
‎超過半數的政治庇護申請
‎會遭到希臘當局回絕

499
00:31:33,123 --> 00:31:36,843
‎亞邁德一家人和數十萬難民

500
00:31:36,923 --> 00:31:40,523
‎冒著生命危險，喪失所有存款

501
00:31:40,603 --> 00:31:42,883
‎卻換來茫然的未來

502
00:31:49,083 --> 00:31:54,683
‎他說的故事，和把類似他一家人

503
00:31:54,763 --> 00:31:57,763
‎載到各地的人蛇的說詞

504
00:31:57,843 --> 00:31:59,483
‎大不相同

505
00:32:00,043 --> 00:32:01,723
‎他說他們並非善類

506
00:32:01,803 --> 00:32:05,523
‎他們玩弄人心，是騙子
‎一心只想賺錢

507
00:32:05,603 --> 00:32:09,283
‎他們讓這家人陷入性命之危

508
00:32:12,563 --> 00:32:15,963
‎但只要有人想逃離貧窮和戰爭

509
00:32:16,043 --> 00:32:18,203
‎移民就會一再湧入

510
00:32:18,283 --> 00:32:21,083
‎人蛇就會賺取暴利

511
00:32:25,003 --> 00:32:29,083
‎回到季亞瓦塔監獄後
‎我要找柯斯塔斯

512
00:32:29,163 --> 00:32:32,363
‎那名要關109年的人蛇

513
00:32:33,243 --> 00:32:36,243
‎他戳了被判刑的罪名

514
00:32:36,323 --> 00:32:38,523
‎但我還想問其他問題

515
00:32:40,763 --> 00:32:43,923
‎你還有其他未完結的案件？

516
00:32:44,003 --> 00:32:48,923
‎有，有些官司還沒打完

517
00:32:49,483 --> 00:32:53,203
‎很多偷渡客都死了

518
00:32:54,123 --> 00:32:57,363
‎他們會喪生，是因為你這種人

519
00:32:57,443 --> 00:33:00,683
‎準備在另一邊載他們

520
00:33:00,763 --> 00:33:04,443
‎你給了他們希望
‎有時根本無法實現的希望

521
00:33:04,523 --> 00:33:06,523
‎因為他們死在途中

522
00:33:07,723 --> 00:33:09,163
‎對此，你有什麼說法？

523
00:33:10,083 --> 00:33:17,083
‎那些案件與我無關

524
00:33:17,163 --> 00:33:21,163
‎我從沒涉入這種事件

525
00:33:21,243 --> 00:33:23,163
‎從沒發生在我身上過

526
00:33:23,243 --> 00:33:26,163
‎所以你不會覺得羞恥或懊悔？

527
00:33:26,843 --> 00:33:27,683
‎不會

528
00:33:27,763 --> 00:33:31,883
‎你覺得判人蛇重刑

529
00:33:32,683 --> 00:33:37,803
‎能遏止其他人做這種事嗎？

530
00:33:40,123 --> 00:33:42,363
‎判重刑沒有用

531
00:33:42,443 --> 00:33:47,243
‎就算不想
‎七成的囚犯還是會重回老本行

532
00:33:48,083 --> 00:33:50,483
‎因為他們在外面一無所有

533
00:33:52,563 --> 00:33:54,643
‎他對自己的行為不以為恥

534
00:33:54,723 --> 00:33:56,763
‎不覺得政府提高刑期的政策

535
00:33:56,843 --> 00:33:59,443
‎會有遏止的效果

536
00:33:59,523 --> 00:34:01,683
‎就算遏止了某些人

537
00:34:02,843 --> 00:34:04,803
‎我也覺得能遏止柯斯塔斯

538
00:34:12,523 --> 00:34:15,483
‎除了這座監獄裡的所有人蛇之外

539
00:34:15,563 --> 00:34:17,843
‎他們還有另一項大挑戰

540
00:34:17,923 --> 00:34:19,363
‎我到這裡時

541
00:34:19,443 --> 00:34:24,443
‎聽說有五成的新囚犯
‎毒品檢驗都呈陽性

542
00:34:24,923 --> 00:34:28,083
‎我自己的獄友尼寇就是海洛英成癮者

543
00:34:28,643 --> 00:34:30,643
‎-謝謝你，好友
‎-非常謝謝你

544
00:34:30,723 --> 00:34:34,283
‎但季亞瓦塔有一間特別的毒品勒戒所

545
00:34:34,923 --> 00:34:37,083
‎這在監獄當中很獨特

546
00:34:37,723 --> 00:34:40,363
‎勒戒所位於獨立安全區

547
00:34:40,883 --> 00:34:46,123
‎受刑人必須提出申請
‎獄方再決定誰有資格

548
00:34:48,243 --> 00:34:51,843
‎這在監獄當中很少見

549
00:34:51,923 --> 00:34:54,043
‎沒錯，非常特別

550
00:34:57,883 --> 00:35:00,363
‎我很少覺得我在坐牢

551
00:35:00,443 --> 00:35:02,603
‎35歲的喬治

552
00:35:02,683 --> 00:35:06,803
‎是接受勒戒的13位受刑人之一

553
00:35:07,403 --> 00:35:10,923
‎我們畫上偷火的普羅米修斯

554
00:35:11,003 --> 00:35:15,003
‎普羅米修斯是這個團體的名稱

555
00:35:15,083 --> 00:35:19,083
‎我們的座右銘在這裡

556
00:35:19,163 --> 00:35:23,403
‎我們在治療後會大喊這句話

557
00:35:28,243 --> 00:35:34,483
‎同舟共濟，心靈相繫，彼此互助
‎共創美好人生！

558
00:35:34,563 --> 00:35:36,963
‎我們是普羅米修斯！

559
00:35:37,843 --> 00:35:40,923
‎這13名囚犯知道自己很幸運

560
00:35:41,403 --> 00:35:43,443
‎勒戒所能容納84個人

561
00:35:43,923 --> 00:35:45,483
‎但因資金短缺

562
00:35:45,563 --> 00:35:49,563
‎他們只能幫助一小部分
‎需要治療的囚犯

563
00:35:50,323 --> 00:35:53,803
‎我和另一位成員同住

564
00:35:53,883 --> 00:35:55,803
‎現在喬治沒有毒癮

565
00:35:55,883 --> 00:36:00,403
‎但他需要確保，他兩年後出獄時

566
00:36:00,483 --> 00:36:02,243
‎他永遠不會再吸毒

567
00:36:03,643 --> 00:36:04,923
‎你為什麼被關？

568
00:36:05,003 --> 00:36:10,123
‎我現在是為戴巴拉克拉瓦帽
‎持械搶劫而服刑

569
00:36:10,203 --> 00:36:15,843
‎搶銀行、郵局、彩券行

570
00:36:15,923 --> 00:36:17,403
‎這類的罪行

571
00:36:17,483 --> 00:36:19,243
‎用什麼武器？

572
00:36:19,323 --> 00:36:23,163
‎自動步槍，不是左輪手槍

573
00:36:23,723 --> 00:36:25,483
‎你曾對誰開槍過嗎？

574
00:36:25,563 --> 00:36:30,403
‎我從沒對誰開槍過

575
00:36:30,883 --> 00:36:35,243
‎只會對空鳴槍嚇唬他們，好拿到錢

576
00:36:36,763 --> 00:36:41,643
‎這樣我才有錢買毒品

577
00:36:42,203 --> 00:36:44,643
‎海洛英，古柯鹼、大麻…

578
00:36:44,723 --> 00:36:46,203
‎-所有玩意
‎-所有玩意

579
00:36:46,283 --> 00:36:50,483
‎所以你才加入這個治療團體

580
00:36:50,563 --> 00:36:54,363
‎想克服讓你犯案的藥物依賴

581
00:36:54,443 --> 00:36:57,443
‎從我小時候起

582
00:36:58,163 --> 00:37:01,923
‎我就設想自己

583
00:37:03,003 --> 00:37:05,483
‎是個十惡不赦的罪犯

584
00:37:05,563 --> 00:37:08,443
‎結果正好相反

585
00:37:09,403 --> 00:37:14,603
‎我發現這裡的人
‎會給我真正的愛和尊重

586
00:37:15,843 --> 00:37:18,043
‎-大家早安
‎-早安

587
00:37:18,123 --> 00:37:20,283
‎誰要先開始分享今天的想法？

588
00:37:20,363 --> 00:37:22,763
‎他們每天都有團體治療

589
00:37:22,843 --> 00:37:27,323
‎幫助彼此了解和管理自己的成癮症

590
00:37:28,283 --> 00:37:29,643
‎各位團友，早安

591
00:37:31,003 --> 00:37:36,083
‎我很難開口聊這件事，但我在努力中

592
00:37:36,163 --> 00:37:38,483
‎我姐姐很久之後才來看我

593
00:37:38,963 --> 00:37:44,163
‎至少我們和爸爸聊了一些問題

594
00:37:44,243 --> 00:37:47,843
‎我和我一個孩子聊過

595
00:37:47,923 --> 00:37:49,483
‎另外兩個不肯和我說話

596
00:37:49,563 --> 00:37:54,043
‎真希望他們知道，他們的爸爸

597
00:37:54,123 --> 00:37:58,323
‎已經改過自新

598
00:37:58,883 --> 00:38:00,723
‎非常好，來抱抱

599
00:38:04,643 --> 00:38:06,643
‎這堂課很感人

600
00:38:06,723 --> 00:38:11,163
‎已經成長的罪犯公開討論

601
00:38:11,243 --> 00:38:14,963
‎每天或每週的挑戰是什麼

602
00:38:15,043 --> 00:38:20,083
‎這就是這個方案和治療團體

603
00:38:20,163 --> 00:38:24,483
‎努力的目標…提供這些人

604
00:38:25,123 --> 00:38:28,163
‎向前邁進的方法、工具和能力
‎好改變人生

605
00:38:28,243 --> 00:38:30,403
‎我們知道，他們改變人生時

606
00:38:31,003 --> 00:38:33,603
‎也改變了潛在受害者的人生

607
00:38:33,683 --> 00:38:36,403
‎我覺得這很重要

608
00:38:37,923 --> 00:38:41,003
‎今天是某位成員的40歲生日

609
00:38:41,643 --> 00:38:42,963
‎來，我幫你

610
00:38:43,043 --> 00:38:44,963
‎我知道怎麼穿圍裙，喬治

611
00:38:47,043 --> 00:38:48,883
‎喔，你把糖霜準備好了

612
00:38:49,923 --> 00:38:54,283
‎舀起糖霜塗勻

613
00:38:54,363 --> 00:38:56,123
‎我從中間開始

614
00:38:58,523 --> 00:38:59,643
‎佩服我吧？

615
00:39:01,003 --> 00:39:02,803
‎你塗得比我好

616
00:39:04,123 --> 00:39:06,883
‎好，戒毒成功感覺如何？

617
00:39:07,363 --> 00:39:11,403
‎想不到我有一天能戒毒成功

618
00:39:11,483 --> 00:39:18,283
‎我不相信我做得到，更別提做蛋糕

619
00:39:18,363 --> 00:39:22,763
‎你明白你開槍嚇唬人時

620
00:39:22,843 --> 00:39:25,283
‎讓人多痛苦嗎？

621
00:39:25,363 --> 00:39:28,323
‎我可以體會他們的感受

622
00:39:29,123 --> 00:39:32,203
‎我能換位思考了
‎可以體會他們的感受

623
00:39:32,283 --> 00:39:34,123
‎我改變不了過去

624
00:39:34,203 --> 00:39:35,963
‎感到內疚又懊悔

625
00:39:36,883 --> 00:39:39,243
‎我接受我的過去了

626
00:39:39,323 --> 00:39:45,763
‎祝你長命百歲，祝你壽與天齊
‎白髮蒼蒼

627
00:39:45,843 --> 00:39:51,763
‎知識之光照耀大家

628
00:39:51,843 --> 00:39:57,043
‎願在座的人都充滿智慧

629
00:39:57,123 --> 00:39:58,763
‎（四十）

630
00:39:58,843 --> 00:40:00,483
‎就我今天看到的

631
00:40:00,563 --> 00:40:04,803
‎勒戒所給的協助
‎是受刑人迫切需要的

632
00:40:05,483 --> 00:40:09,363
‎可惜只能幫13個人

633
00:40:18,043 --> 00:40:22,403
‎我答應過因謀殺而服刑的獄友尼寇

634
00:40:22,483 --> 00:40:24,923
‎在我離開前要打一場籃球

635
00:40:30,083 --> 00:40:33,603
‎尼寇曾參加毒品治療計畫

636
00:40:34,163 --> 00:40:38,443
‎但他受不了這麼激烈的課程
‎很快就退出了

637
00:40:38,523 --> 00:40:41,203
‎現在他渴望第二次機會

638
00:40:42,563 --> 00:40:47,763
‎當初參加時，體制和架構的要求很高

639
00:40:47,843 --> 00:40:49,883
‎在這種地方，也許是一大挑戰

640
00:40:49,963 --> 00:40:51,923
‎這次你做好準備，能再參加了？

641
00:40:52,003 --> 00:40:55,443
‎在那裏，你必須面對鏡子裡的自己

642
00:40:55,523 --> 00:40:58,243
‎明白你是誰，做了什麼事情

643
00:40:58,323 --> 00:41:01,003
‎在勒戒所，勇敢面對自己是很難的

644
00:41:01,083 --> 00:41:02,283
‎對誰都很難

645
00:41:02,363 --> 00:41:04,723
‎你為什麼覺得能面對自己了？

646
00:41:04,803 --> 00:41:10,083
‎我這個年紀，讓我能處理這些問題

647
00:41:11,323 --> 00:41:13,083
‎這是為了我自己好

648
00:41:13,163 --> 00:41:14,523
‎有利無害

649
00:41:14,603 --> 00:41:18,763
‎我該決定出獄後的人生目標了…

650
00:41:19,283 --> 00:41:21,163
‎我必須做好重回社會的準備

651
00:41:22,243 --> 00:41:26,883
‎希望能踏出監獄

652
00:41:27,723 --> 00:41:29,443
‎當個正常人

653
00:41:29,523 --> 00:41:32,083
‎忘記過去15年經歷過的事

654
00:41:36,963 --> 00:41:39,883
‎（第六天）

655
00:41:39,963 --> 00:41:43,283
‎今天是我在季亞瓦塔監獄的
‎最後一個早上

656
00:41:43,883 --> 00:41:48,923
‎但我的三位獄友可能還要待十年以上

657
00:41:49,003 --> 00:41:51,563
‎就算扣掉工作折抵的刑期也一樣

658
00:41:53,003 --> 00:41:57,603
‎將來可能還有更多人蛇入獄

659
00:41:58,243 --> 00:42:01,123
‎監獄協助囚犯改過自新的政策

660
00:42:01,203 --> 00:42:03,803
‎可能也會持續受限

661
00:42:04,363 --> 00:42:07,963
‎但我離開前想問典獄長

662
00:42:08,443 --> 00:42:12,923
‎阿納斯塔修斯帕帕多普洛斯
‎怎麼看待這個問題

663
00:42:13,723 --> 00:42:16,803
‎獄方有些計畫立意良善

664
00:42:16,883 --> 00:42:19,123
‎藥物勒戒所

665
00:42:19,203 --> 00:42:23,043
‎但只能嘉惠少數人…

666
00:42:23,123 --> 00:42:27,163
‎實情是，我們的資源窘迫

667
00:42:27,243 --> 00:42:33,203
‎這座監獄的設計只能收容360人

668
00:42:33,283 --> 00:42:39,683
‎目前受刑人不只360位，而是440位

669
00:42:40,323 --> 00:42:45,883
‎人數遠超過監獄的負荷

670
00:42:46,843 --> 00:42:48,963
‎但受刑人數目不斷上升

671
00:42:49,043 --> 00:42:51,523
‎不只是這裡，全國的監獄都一樣

672
00:42:51,603 --> 00:42:53,243
‎這個現象與人口走私有關

673
00:42:53,323 --> 00:42:57,603
‎這是否暗示超長的刑期

674
00:42:57,683 --> 00:43:01,563
‎與立法單位的希望不同
‎無法產生遏止效果

675
00:43:02,123 --> 00:43:03,803
‎你說得非常有道理

676
00:43:03,883 --> 00:43:09,923
‎但嚴刑不只是為了遏止犯罪

677
00:43:10,003 --> 00:43:16,883
‎和判刑一樣，我們需要教育這些人

678
00:43:17,403 --> 00:43:22,483
‎他們的行為就是罪行

679
00:43:22,563 --> 00:43:28,643
‎使他人陷入性命危機，我覺得是重罪

680
00:43:32,443 --> 00:43:34,283
‎但根據我的所見所聞

681
00:43:34,923 --> 00:43:40,403
‎這種新型罪犯可能最難改革

682
00:43:44,763 --> 00:43:46,683
‎我見過許多非常優秀的計畫

683
00:43:46,763 --> 00:43:49,883
‎它們能讓受刑人的人生更美好

684
00:43:49,963 --> 00:43:53,923
‎但我是否見過任何系統
‎能改革這種新型受刑人

685
00:43:54,003 --> 00:43:55,283
‎也就是人蛇？

686
00:43:55,363 --> 00:43:56,483
‎我就不確定了

687
00:44:23,483 --> 00:44:28,483
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