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[Rob Base & DJ E-Z Rock's
"It Takes Two"]
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DJ E-Z ROCK:
♪ Right about now ♪
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♪ You're about
to be possessed ♪
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♪ By the sounds
of MC Rob Base ♪
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♪ And DJ E-Z Rock ♪
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♪ Hit it ♪
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PERSON:
Who are you here to see?
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- Shaq.
- Shaq?
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What did you think about him?
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- [chuckles] He's big.
- He's big.
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♪ ♪
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SINGER: ♪ It takes two
to make a thing go right ♪
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♪ ♪
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♪ It takes two
to make it out of sight ♪
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- Who'd you come here to see?
- Kobe Bryant.
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- Came here for Shaq
and Kobe Bryant.
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REPORTER:
Do you like the Lakers?
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- Oh, yeah. Big Lakers fan.
REPORTER: Good.
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Hopefully, they will win
this year, right?
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FAN: You got that right.
DJ E-Z ROCK: ♪ Hit it ♪
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ROB BASE:
♪ I wanna rock right now ♪
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♪ I'm Rob Base
and I came to get down ♪
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REPORTER: In the '90s, you
haven't won a NBA title yet.
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Do you think this team
might do it?
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DEL:
This is certainly our goal.
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This is, um,
what we're here for.
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- It's good when you have
a lot of new faces.
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That means that there's
a change coming.
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- We're very young.
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We got mixtures of everything.
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We got a couple of veterans,
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and we got a guy that
he ain't went to college.
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BUSS: Well, you can never tell
how a team's gonna jell.
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Sometimes it comes together
immediately,
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sometimes it takes
two or three years.
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So we know we have
a lot of talent,
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but we don't know
how much teamwork we have yet.
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♪ ♪
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SHAQ: How about five guys
playing their roles?
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Everybody don't have
their own agenda, yeah.
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We should be fine.
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ROGER TROUTMAN:
♪ California love ♪
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[2Pac's "California Love"]
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♪ California knows
how to party ♪
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♪ California knows
how to party ♪
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CHICK HEARN: There he is.
His first shot as an owner.
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You think he likes it?
[commentator laughs]
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ROGER:
♪ California ♪
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♪ ♪
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- At this moment,
I can't believe it.
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ROGER:
♪ California ♪
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PERSON:
What's the future?
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Want to replace your father
at the top?
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- Yeah. [laughs]
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ROGER:
♪ In the city ♪
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BUSS: Between my daughters
and my sons,
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there are certainly enough
sports teams to go around.
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♪ ♪
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ROGER:
♪ In the city ♪
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PERSON: Are you
and the rest of the family,
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are you guys all
on the same page?
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♪ ♪
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PERSON: The Lakers caught
in the middle
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of a family power struggle.
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♪ ♪
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BUSS: I think I've really
left them with something.
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[indistinct chatter]
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CHICK: Aloha and a very
pleasant good evening
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to you, ladies and gentlemen.
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I'm Chick Hearn.
Stu Lantz is with me again.
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And we're so happy
to be with you
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in this new chapter
of Laker basketball, '96-'97.
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DEREK: I grew up
in Little Rock, Arkansas,
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which is a long way away
from LA.
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CHICK:
Derek Fisher, 6'1",
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a 200-pound rookie
out of Arkansas.
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- To be drafted by the Lakers
in 1996 was
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more than a dream come true.
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You know, we obviously
had Nick Van Exel
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and Eddie Jones,
Elden Campbell.
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Byron Scott came back
and played.
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But yeah, ah,
there was no question
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whose team it was at that time.
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ANNOUNCER:
And now here he comes,
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the big fella,
Shaquille O'Neal.
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[cheers and applause]
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- I think it's a
new start for you
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and an opportunity
to travel the road
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to a championship ring.
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- That's what it's all about.
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- Shaq was gonna turn
the franchise around.
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Shaq was gonna give us
an opportunity
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to get back
to winning championships.
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- He's dominant. You know,
he's just physically dominant.
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And he is a great
basketball player.
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JOHNNY: He was already
a celebrity at that point.
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And I think my dad was
a little more excited
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about having Shaq
as a sports fan
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than he was
as the owner of the team.
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SHAQ: I'm coming in.
[basket rattles]
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If this was a mafia movie,
I'm taking over all territory.
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If this was a gang movie,
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I'm taking over
all neighborhoods.
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You don't have to tell me.
Trust me. I'm telling you.
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[Shaquille O'Neal's
"(I Know I Got) Skillz)"]
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♪ You want to fight,
come fight me ♪
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♪ I'll hit you with the
wa-psh-psh-psh-psh-psh! ♪
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♪ See? See?
I get dirty ♪
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BUSS:
He's bigger than life.
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Literally the man,
when he walks in the room,
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commands all the attention
of everybody in the room.
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- I am Kazaam!
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- Shaq was
the ultimate showman.
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You know, him and LA just
went together perfect.
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- I used to blow his ass up
to get free tickets.
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"Shaq, it's the Dogg.
What's happening?"
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I used to hit him on the pager
and the SkyTel.
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"It's Snoop Dogg.
I need nine tickets, nigga.
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Leave them at the gate."
[laughs]
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BUSS: You had to have
a real superstar
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in order to have
a credible franchise,
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especially in a city
like Los Angeles.
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[cheers and applause]
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But regardless of how charming
a personality is,
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eventually,
the fans want a win.
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SHAQ:
The first thing Jerry West did
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when I got there,
he sat me down and he said,
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"Look up."
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And as I look up,
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he says,
"Son, if you can come here
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"and win
multiple championships,
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your name will be up there
one day."
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He said,
"It ain't gonna take long.
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"I just signed this kid.
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You and him are gonna win
a lot of championships."
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[soft dramatic music]
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KURT:
When Kobe was drafted,
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you could see
the young kid's talent level.
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It wasn't like you had
to strain to find it.
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It was there.
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I mean, it just popped
right off the court.
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You're gonna forget real quick,
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and everybody has to keep that
in the back of your mind,
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that he's just 18.
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SHAQ:
He was loved from day one.
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The fans are going,
"Kobe! Kobe!"
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ALL: [chanting]
Kobe! Kobe! Kobe!
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CHICK: And they're calling
"Kobe, Kobe, Kobe."
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NICK:
I can see Kobe right now.
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Like, his swag and confidence
was through the roof.
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- College is great competition.
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But in the NBA, it's the
best players in the world,
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and I love to play against
the best players in the world.
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- He was so intense
on being like Michael,
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being better than Michael.
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- Everything that MJ did,
Kobe did.
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Like the chewing of the gum,
the walking,
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the moves, the footwork.
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I used to have VHS tapes
back in the day
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full of highlights
of Michael Jordan.
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Kobe asked to borrow them.
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And I have never seen
those tapes again.
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[laughing]
He was just like,
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"No, motherfucker,
I want my tapes."
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[laughs]
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[cheers and applause]
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KURT:
When Kobe came in,
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he had all the components
to be a great ball player.
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But what he didn't have
was experience.
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- Would he be capable
of waiting his time?
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And there's no question his
time was gonna come soon.
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PERSON:
You are the youngest player
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for the Lakers right now.
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Do you feel any pressure
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coming straight out
of high school?
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- Not really.
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No, it's more excitement
more than anything.
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You know, I just can't wait
to go out there
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and just play a little.
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- You know, I knew
he had greatness in him
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from day one
of watching him in practice.
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And then to have Shaq.
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You know, if they could jell,
I was like,
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man, the sky's
the limits for them.
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My main man, Showboat,
coming in here.
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This is my man,
this is my man.
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This is Showboat.
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We call him Showboat, but
y'all know him as Kobe Bryant.
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This is my main man.
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I feel like a father to him.
I mean, this is my boy.
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I mean, we play together,
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we sit on the bench
by each other.
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We're always talking.
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Then when I look at--
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you know how you go down
in the locker room
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and they list everybody's age?
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Not their age,
but they date of birth?
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- Mm-hmm.
- And I see '78.
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- '78.
- [laughs]
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And I'm like, "I'm twice
as old as the kid," you know?
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- So I've been living in LA
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since I was, like,
in third grade.
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- This young man
was so respectful.
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Because I was like,
"Kobe," you know,
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"Nice to meet you.
My name is Byron."
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"I know who you are,
Mr. Scott."
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That's exactly how you--
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"I know who you are,
Mr. Scott."
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I was like, "Okay, well,
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you don't have
to call me Mr. Scott."
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- You know,
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what have your biggest
challenges been this year?
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- The hardest thing,
I would say,
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has been moving away
from my family.
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- You didn't have
the opportunity that we had
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as far as we were able
to adjust a little bit
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because we went to college,
so we had a chance to adjust.
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And you coming
straight out of high school.
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ROBERT: You know, I've never
played with anybody 18,
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19, since college.
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Sports are all about tradition.
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And after the game, the beers
were in the locker room.
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We always crack open a brew.
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[laughter]
- [indistinct]
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ROBERT:
Once we got Kobe on the team,
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someone comes in and says,
"You have a minor in here."
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[laughing]
Yeah, there's a couple guys
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that kind of got upset
at Kobe about that.
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We would go out somewhere,
and they'll look at him like,
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"Dude, I can't let you in."
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[laughing]
"You're not even 21 yet."
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[indistinct clamoring]
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SHAQ:
Oh, I can get him in,
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but if you ask
somebody something
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and they say no twice,
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you know,
someone's gonna be on top.
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How can you live
in Southern California
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and just go to practice
and go home?
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SNOOP: He really wasn't
the club type.
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You know, he dibbled
and dabbled a little bit,
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but then he would get
on his basketball shit
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and he would be, like,
locked up.
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He just was different.
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- I always
keep people arm-distant.
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You know, I'm very outgoing
and I'll talk to anybody.
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But there's a certain limit.
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I'm not gonna let just anybody
into my family circle.
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- He never really smiled.
He was always serious.
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- They were, you know,
opposites.
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Kobe was, you know, focused,
driven, and 18 years old.
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- Kobe would kill us
in practice.
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And we was like,
"Man, slow your ass down."
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Like,
"God damn, we in walkthrough."
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- And Shaq wanted to have fun.
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[whistle blows]
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NICK:
We in practice waiting on him.
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All of a sudden he comes out
the locker room butt naked,
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does a lap, and goes back in.
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- [laughs]
That is indeed frightening.
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SHAQ: I don't know what
you're talking about.
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And they need to understand
that snitches get stitches.
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So when I see you,
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got something for you,
D-Fish and Rob.
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JIM:
So there was conflict,
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and Kobe worked his tail off
to be the greatest.
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Shaq had the natural talent
to be the greatest.
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But it didn't seem like he
worked as hard to get beyond.
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- From a distance,
you could see
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that these two guys were
gonna be butting heads.
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[cheers and applause]
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[soft dramatic music]
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NEWSCASTER: Women's basketball
goes big time
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with a new league
backed by the NBA.
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- 'Bout time that
the women take the court
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and show their stuff.
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JOHNNY: When I got the call
from my dad to run the Sparks,
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of course,
my head was spinning again,
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going, "Okay, now I'm older,
I'm more mature.
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I'm running
another sports team."
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But I already went through
this with the Lazers.
281
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You know,
you don't expect to win.
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You just build yourself up
283
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and you get there as quickly
as you possibly can.
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But it's the same business.
285
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You're trying
to grow something.
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COMMENTATOR: Welcome
to the Great Western Forum,
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and it is a sellout crowd
of some 12,000 people.
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JOHNNY:
It was so much fun
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to try out this new age of
basketball that was happening.
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MICHAEL:
When I moved into coaching,
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Johnny, I mean,
was just like his dad--
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not being too involved,
but involved enough.
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Coop,
I don't care what you do.
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Is it best for the team?
295
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[cheers and applause]
296
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COMMENTATOR:
Here's the tip.
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And the Sparks control.
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JOHNNY: The Lakers have Shaq
to grow on.
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We had Lisa Leslie.
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- Los Angeles has been known
for its Showtime
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with the Los Angeles Lakers,
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and I think it
will be continued
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with the WNBA's team.
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- If it wasn't
for the physicality,
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Lisa could have played
in the NBA.
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COMMENTATOR 1:
Leslie, who starred at USC,
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grew up just a few blocks away
from the Forum.
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COMMENTATOR 2: That's Lisa
Leslie with those long arms.
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She just knocks it out.
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JOHNNY:
She was the great player,
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and we knew that we were going
to have a great first step
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when we started this team.
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Could she do it alone?
Of course not.
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COMMENTATOR:
And that'll do it here
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at the Great Western Forum.
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It's the New York Liberty
over the LA Sparks.
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JOHNNY:
Just like any other team,
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it might not have been
an immediate success.
319
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But my dad said, "You're going
in the right direction."
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[soft dramatic music]
321
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♪ ♪
322
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You know,
Jimmy wanted to prove himself
323
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just like I wanted
to prove myself
324
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or anybody wants
to prove themselves.
325
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- Everything I know about
basketball and scouting,
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I learned from Jerry West.
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My dad knew I would
come in with,
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"Please just feed me
everything you got, Mr. West."
329
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[laughing] Who's, I mean,
there's a legend right there
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and I'm working with him.
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♪ ♪
332
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He took me
on my first scouting job.
333
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Of course, that was Hawaii,
which was great, you know.
334
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[laughs]
335
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When you're traveling
with horses in trailers,
336
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you're getting pretty dirty.
337
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So when we went first class
to Hawaii with Jerry West,
338
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I'm sitting there going,
"This is a dream."
339
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You know, I can't believe
I'm sitting next to him.
340
00:12:50,770 --> 00:12:52,438
- I thought he was shy.
341
00:12:52,438 --> 00:12:55,149
Um, always very courteous.
342
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Uh, he would go to these
big scouting things with us.
343
00:12:58,736 --> 00:13:02,532
- He'd see games.
Uh, he'd send reports in.
344
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Stuff you kind of do
when you're starting out.
345
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JEANIE: My dad felt
that Jimmy had a good eye.
346
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That, given time,
Jimmy could really understand
347
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what you look for
in a great player.
348
00:13:15,962 --> 00:13:18,214
- I thought he was fine.
I really did.
349
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Obviously, I had great respect
for Jerry and for his kids.
350
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But my only question was,
you know, the owner's son--
351
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are you hiring him to, uh--
352
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just to give him
something to do?
353
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Was he going to, you know,
be dedicated enough to do it?
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♪ ♪
355
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JEANIE:
When I was, you know,
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named as the general manager
of the Forum
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and started running the venue,
358
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there really wasn't
much crossover between anything
359
00:13:47,118 --> 00:13:50,329
my brothers were doing
and what I was doing.
360
00:13:50,329 --> 00:13:51,789
[soft upbeat music]
361
00:13:51,789 --> 00:13:54,000
NEWSCASTER: Jeanie Buss
is a woman with a plan.
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She wants to make
the Great Western Forum
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the best arena it can be--
364
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at least until a new arena
is built in LA.
365
00:14:00,798 --> 00:14:04,677
- The ambitious part of me
jumped at the opportunity.
366
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I wanted to learn and grow.
367
00:14:08,181 --> 00:14:11,267
JANIE: My father took
our personalities
368
00:14:11,267 --> 00:14:15,563
and kind of helped place us
where we excelled.
369
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And Jeanie has always
been a perfectionist.
370
00:14:19,692 --> 00:14:22,570
- I liked the challenge.
371
00:14:22,570 --> 00:14:24,822
When you are
in a position like that,
372
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you have to be at work
in the morning.
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And then you have
to stay that night
374
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for whatever event
is in the building
375
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'cause it's your building.
376
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♪ ♪
377
00:14:37,168 --> 00:14:40,004
- I told Jerry,
she doesn't have to be here
378
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for every concert.
379
00:14:41,881 --> 00:14:44,967
But she was very devoted.
380
00:14:44,967 --> 00:14:47,053
JEANIE: I wanted to do
whatever I could
381
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in the family business.
382
00:14:48,971 --> 00:14:50,890
But as time went on,
you know,
383
00:14:50,890 --> 00:14:55,895
I really realized how much
I was missing of a dating life,
384
00:14:55,895 --> 00:14:58,064
a social life.
385
00:14:58,064 --> 00:14:59,440
In the divorce,
386
00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:04,028
I ended up with a house
that was on the beach.
387
00:15:04,028 --> 00:15:07,448
My girlfriends would literally
call me from my house
388
00:15:07,448 --> 00:15:11,536
while I was at work saying,
"Hey, it's a great beach day.
389
00:15:11,536 --> 00:15:13,788
Wish you were here."
390
00:15:13,788 --> 00:15:15,873
Those years,
those three or four years,
391
00:15:15,873 --> 00:15:18,417
really, I had no free time.
392
00:15:18,417 --> 00:15:20,545
♪ ♪
393
00:15:20,545 --> 00:15:24,006
Especially when Shaq
and Kobe came to the Lakers,
394
00:15:24,006 --> 00:15:25,716
my phone was ringing
off the hook.
395
00:15:25,716 --> 00:15:29,637
People requesting tickets,
celebrities coming again.
396
00:15:29,637 --> 00:15:30,888
- There's some hope now.
397
00:15:30,888 --> 00:15:32,390
People really believe
in the Lakers again.
398
00:15:32,390 --> 00:15:33,599
You know, they watched them,
399
00:15:33,599 --> 00:15:34,851
but they really
didn't believe in them.
400
00:15:34,851 --> 00:15:37,562
Now they're watching them
at a record number.
401
00:15:37,562 --> 00:15:39,605
[Montell Jordan's
"This Is How We Do It"]
402
00:15:39,605 --> 00:15:42,817
SINGERS:
♪ This is how we do it ♪
403
00:15:42,817 --> 00:15:44,652
- That era that got ushered in,
404
00:15:44,652 --> 00:15:46,404
the Lake Show--[chuckles]
405
00:15:46,404 --> 00:15:48,656
It was not so much for him.
406
00:15:48,656 --> 00:15:52,577
And it wasn't for even us
as a family.
407
00:15:52,577 --> 00:15:55,955
It was really,
it'll help our fans.
408
00:15:55,955 --> 00:15:57,623
MONTELL:
♪ This is how we do it ♪
409
00:15:57,623 --> 00:15:59,125
♪ It's Friday night ♪
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NICK: You talking about
expectations through the roof.
411
00:16:01,252 --> 00:16:03,713
Everywhere we went,
it was sold out.
412
00:16:03,713 --> 00:16:05,506
Like, it was crazy.
413
00:16:05,506 --> 00:16:07,466
JEANIE:
We were ecstatic
414
00:16:07,466 --> 00:16:09,594
that we had what
you would call a big two.
415
00:16:09,594 --> 00:16:10,720
[kids screaming]
416
00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,096
And they were everywhere.
417
00:16:12,096 --> 00:16:13,514
MONTELL: ♪ The honeys
in the street say ♪
418
00:16:13,514 --> 00:16:15,892
♪ Monty, yo, we made it,
it feels so good ♪
419
00:16:15,892 --> 00:16:18,311
- Hey, you're Kobe Bryant.
420
00:16:18,311 --> 00:16:21,147
- Oh, Kobe.
[cheers and applause]
421
00:16:21,147 --> 00:16:23,024
- Look, Mom,
it's about the SAT.
422
00:16:23,024 --> 00:16:24,775
I don't do well on big tests.
I freeze up.
423
00:16:24,775 --> 00:16:26,944
♪ ♪
424
00:16:26,944 --> 00:16:28,696
- This was the Lake Show.
425
00:16:28,696 --> 00:16:30,698
We're not the team that's
gonna come down and run plays.
426
00:16:30,698 --> 00:16:33,242
We're the team
that's got lobs, dunks.
427
00:16:33,242 --> 00:16:35,620
MONTELL: ♪ I'm kind of buzzed
and it's all because ♪
428
00:16:35,620 --> 00:16:37,580
SINGERS:
♪ This is how we do it ♪
429
00:16:37,580 --> 00:16:40,291
MONTELL: ♪ South Central
does it like nobody does ♪
430
00:16:40,291 --> 00:16:42,168
SINGERS:
♪ This is how we do it ♪
431
00:16:42,168 --> 00:16:44,462
- So we got an arena
filled with A-List stars.
432
00:16:44,462 --> 00:16:47,048
You know what I mean,
they coming to watch you.
433
00:16:47,048 --> 00:16:49,425
SNOOP: Coming to sit courtside
after becoming famous
434
00:16:49,425 --> 00:16:51,135
is probably the best thing
that can happen
435
00:16:51,135 --> 00:16:52,720
for you in entertainment,
436
00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,306
because you know that you're an
attraction at the attraction.
437
00:16:55,306 --> 00:16:56,807
You're watching
the basketball game,
438
00:16:56,807 --> 00:16:58,893
but you know the basketball
players are watching you.
439
00:17:00,186 --> 00:17:01,604
ICE CUBE:
You know, at that time,
440
00:17:01,604 --> 00:17:03,189
I could afford season tickets.
441
00:17:03,189 --> 00:17:07,109
So being up
in the Forum was great.
442
00:17:07,109 --> 00:17:09,946
Yelling at the refs, you know,
where they can hear you now.
443
00:17:11,447 --> 00:17:13,574
FLEA: We just knew
that we were gonna
444
00:17:13,574 --> 00:17:14,992
win a championship again.
445
00:17:14,992 --> 00:17:16,994
And to get into the Forum
to watch them play
446
00:17:16,994 --> 00:17:20,623
was gonna be the golden ticket
for the time of your life.
447
00:17:20,623 --> 00:17:22,917
ANDY: That place was on fire,
you know.
448
00:17:22,917 --> 00:17:26,587
It was a magical time
in LA sports.
449
00:17:26,587 --> 00:17:28,089
DYAN: We thought
this is the beginning
450
00:17:28,089 --> 00:17:29,882
of ring after ring after ring.
451
00:17:29,882 --> 00:17:31,008
That's what we were hoping.
452
00:17:31,008 --> 00:17:33,469
♪ ♪
453
00:17:36,389 --> 00:17:37,890
J.A.:
I grew up in Los Angeles.
454
00:17:37,890 --> 00:17:39,392
I was there for Showtime.
455
00:17:39,392 --> 00:17:41,602
And then there
was this long period
456
00:17:41,602 --> 00:17:43,854
of wandering
in the wilderness.
457
00:17:43,854 --> 00:17:46,566
But when I got to "the Times"
in '97, the Lakers,
458
00:17:46,566 --> 00:17:49,026
the Shaq and Kobe era,
was on the way up.
459
00:17:49,026 --> 00:17:50,152
I think people
thought the Lakers
460
00:17:50,152 --> 00:17:52,863
could be championship
contenders.
461
00:17:52,863 --> 00:17:56,200
It all felt,
like, preordained in a way.
462
00:17:56,200 --> 00:18:00,955
Although Kobe still had some
things to learn and work out.
463
00:18:00,955 --> 00:18:02,498
- There's gonna be a time
through the playoffs
464
00:18:02,498 --> 00:18:04,417
where guys on the team
are struggling.
465
00:18:04,417 --> 00:18:06,002
And we're gonna have to go
in there and do our job
466
00:18:06,002 --> 00:18:08,754
and, you know, answer the call,
answer that ultimate challenge.
467
00:18:08,754 --> 00:18:10,798
And I love it, man.
I can't wait.
468
00:18:10,798 --> 00:18:12,758
- And we're playing Utah
in Utah,
469
00:18:12,758 --> 00:18:14,594
and we were about
to lose the series.
470
00:18:14,594 --> 00:18:16,095
[cheers and applause]
471
00:18:16,095 --> 00:18:18,723
EDDIE: We were down 3-1
in the playoffs.
472
00:18:18,723 --> 00:18:21,559
If we lose another game,
we're going home.
473
00:18:21,559 --> 00:18:25,146
We knew it was all or nothing.
474
00:18:25,146 --> 00:18:26,647
KEVIN HARLAN:
We're tied at 89.
475
00:18:26,647 --> 00:18:28,649
It's a timeout, Los Angeles
476
00:18:28,649 --> 00:18:31,485
with 11.3 to play
in regulation.
477
00:18:31,485 --> 00:18:34,697
DEL:
We were tied with Utah.
478
00:18:34,697 --> 00:18:37,575
What we've got to do
is get a shot.
479
00:18:37,575 --> 00:18:39,410
This was the time.
480
00:18:39,410 --> 00:18:42,288
EDDIE: The play was for me,
and I was open.
481
00:18:42,288 --> 00:18:45,916
And, um, Kobe decided
he wanted to shoot the shot.
482
00:18:45,916 --> 00:18:47,585
KEVIN:
Five seconds left, four.
483
00:18:47,585 --> 00:18:50,296
Bryant drives.
Pull up, shot on the way--
484
00:18:50,296 --> 00:18:51,631
no good.
485
00:18:51,631 --> 00:18:53,424
Karl Malone, rebound.
We go to overtime.
486
00:18:53,424 --> 00:18:55,718
- And everybody always asked
me this question about
487
00:18:55,718 --> 00:18:57,136
was you pissed off?
488
00:18:57,136 --> 00:18:59,430
Don't get me wrong.
Yeah, at the time I was pissed.
489
00:18:59,430 --> 00:19:01,766
But when you think about it,
you're like,
490
00:19:01,766 --> 00:19:03,351
he felt like he was open.
491
00:19:03,351 --> 00:19:04,769
- Now in the overtime,
492
00:19:04,769 --> 00:19:07,146
Utah got out in the lead
493
00:19:07,146 --> 00:19:10,107
and we were trying
to catch up.
494
00:19:10,107 --> 00:19:12,860
- And Kobe shot two airballs
in a row.
495
00:19:12,860 --> 00:19:15,446
KEVIN: Bryant for three.
It's short again. Airball.
496
00:19:15,446 --> 00:19:18,658
Airball.
Eight seconds, seven seconds--
497
00:19:18,658 --> 00:19:19,742
here's a three-pointer.
498
00:19:19,742 --> 00:19:22,370
Airballed again
by Kobe Bryant.
499
00:19:22,370 --> 00:19:25,164
It's over, it's over,
it's all over.
500
00:19:25,164 --> 00:19:27,500
- Listen, if the play
was drawn up for someone else,
501
00:19:27,500 --> 00:19:29,085
if I was open,
I would've taken it.
502
00:19:29,085 --> 00:19:33,506
- I don't know if Kobe
was ready for that moment.
503
00:19:33,506 --> 00:19:35,633
But he had the heart.
504
00:19:37,009 --> 00:19:39,595
SHAQ: I told him.
I said, "Hey, man, we lost.
505
00:19:39,595 --> 00:19:42,473
But one day,
everybody's gonna fear you."
506
00:19:42,473 --> 00:19:44,517
REPORTER: Didn't seem like
you ever lost your confidence.
507
00:19:44,517 --> 00:19:46,394
- Well, you can't.
You know, we came too far.
508
00:19:46,394 --> 00:19:48,938
Uh, once you have an open look,
shoot it.
509
00:19:48,938 --> 00:19:50,648
And, uh, and unfortunately,
they weren't falling.
510
00:19:50,648 --> 00:19:52,316
They weren't falling tonight,
but...
511
00:19:52,316 --> 00:19:54,944
J.A.: You can see the makings
of a Hall of Fame player here.
512
00:19:54,944 --> 00:19:56,529
Just his understanding
of the game,
513
00:19:56,529 --> 00:19:58,114
his mastery
of the fundamentals,
514
00:19:58,114 --> 00:20:01,450
all the tools to be a great,
great player.
515
00:20:02,702 --> 00:20:04,036
KOBE:
I had to take a shot.
516
00:20:04,036 --> 00:20:05,663
I rushed it and I came
up a little short.
517
00:20:05,663 --> 00:20:06,914
Uh...
518
00:20:06,914 --> 00:20:09,375
this year,
we learn from those mistakes.
519
00:20:09,375 --> 00:20:10,876
When I get put
in that situation again,
520
00:20:10,876 --> 00:20:12,294
I'm not gonna miss them.
521
00:20:12,294 --> 00:20:13,629
BRYON: He looked at that
as a learning experience,
522
00:20:13,629 --> 00:20:15,297
and he was gonna
come back the next year
523
00:20:15,297 --> 00:20:17,633
with a vengeance, and he did.
524
00:20:17,633 --> 00:20:21,429
TUPAC: ♪ Bogart, Big Serge,
y'all know how this go ♪
525
00:20:21,429 --> 00:20:22,596
♪ All eyes on me ♪
526
00:20:22,596 --> 00:20:24,432
♪ Motherfuckin' OG ♪
527
00:20:24,432 --> 00:20:26,350
♪ Roll up in the club
and shit ♪
528
00:20:26,350 --> 00:20:27,977
♪ All eyes on me ♪
529
00:20:27,977 --> 00:20:31,647
[2Pac's "All Eyez On Me"]
530
00:20:31,647 --> 00:20:34,525
- Are you basically now
the basketball player
531
00:20:34,525 --> 00:20:35,860
you want
and think you should be?
532
00:20:35,860 --> 00:20:37,653
- Still a long ways
for me to go.
533
00:20:37,653 --> 00:20:39,071
I mean,
this is just the beginning.
534
00:20:39,071 --> 00:20:40,197
You know,
I'm just getting started.
535
00:20:40,197 --> 00:20:42,825
- He wasn't easy, okay?
He was not.
536
00:20:42,825 --> 00:20:45,327
He thought there was one guy
against the five.
537
00:20:45,327 --> 00:20:47,204
[basket rattles]
[cheers and applause]
538
00:20:47,204 --> 00:20:48,789
ROBERT: When Kobe was
in one of those moods,
539
00:20:48,789 --> 00:20:50,124
we wouldn't throw him the ball.
[laughs]
540
00:20:50,124 --> 00:20:51,959
We'd be like,
"Eh, we can't get it to you."
541
00:20:51,959 --> 00:20:53,002
We'd swing it the other way.
542
00:20:53,002 --> 00:20:54,920
And he would get so mad.
543
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,882
- The players gave him
the nickname "Showboat."
544
00:20:57,882 --> 00:20:59,216
And I told him,
545
00:20:59,216 --> 00:21:01,343
"That's the worst nickname
you could ever have."
546
00:21:01,343 --> 00:21:04,430
RICK:
I joined the Lakers in 1997.
547
00:21:04,430 --> 00:21:05,973
The friction
between older players
548
00:21:05,973 --> 00:21:08,517
and Kobe as a young player
was simply that.
549
00:21:08,517 --> 00:21:10,519
He wanted it too fast.
550
00:21:10,519 --> 00:21:13,689
The thought was maybe
he didn't have to pay his dues.
551
00:21:13,689 --> 00:21:15,900
NEWSCASTER: Kobe Bryant,
just 19 years old,
552
00:21:15,900 --> 00:21:17,401
he's been voted by the fans
553
00:21:17,401 --> 00:21:19,403
to start in next Sunday's
All-Star Game.
554
00:21:19,403 --> 00:21:20,738
TUPAC: ♪ Live the life
of a thug nigga ♪
555
00:21:20,738 --> 00:21:21,947
♪ Until the day I die ♪
556
00:21:21,947 --> 00:21:23,240
♪ Live the life
of a boss player ♪
557
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:24,283
♪ All eyes on me ♪
558
00:21:34,084 --> 00:21:36,170
- Kobe was all business.
559
00:21:36,170 --> 00:21:38,005
- He just looked different
from the rip.
560
00:21:38,005 --> 00:21:40,090
The moment cuz hit the floor,
he look different.
561
00:21:40,090 --> 00:21:42,092
ICE CUBE:
He's like a gunslinger.
562
00:21:42,092 --> 00:21:44,303
You know what I mean?
Coming into town,
563
00:21:44,303 --> 00:21:46,305
take no prisoners.
564
00:21:46,305 --> 00:21:47,973
He's not there
to be your friend.
565
00:21:47,973 --> 00:21:49,558
DEREK:
That energy of, like,
566
00:21:49,558 --> 00:21:52,603
"Nah, no, I'm the alpha male
here," started to come out.
567
00:21:52,603 --> 00:21:54,188
"This should be my team.
568
00:21:54,188 --> 00:21:55,314
Follow me."
569
00:21:56,482 --> 00:21:57,900
SHAQ:
He wanted the spot.
570
00:21:57,900 --> 00:22:00,945
He wanted to be the guy,
period.
571
00:22:00,945 --> 00:22:03,197
And we had to say,
"There's this thing
572
00:22:03,197 --> 00:22:05,241
that's called
pecking order here."
573
00:22:05,241 --> 00:22:08,619
Relax. I'm still in charge.
574
00:22:08,619 --> 00:22:09,954
KURT:
When Kareem was here,
575
00:22:09,954 --> 00:22:11,914
Magic always said,
"This is Kareem's team.
576
00:22:11,914 --> 00:22:13,541
I'm just here
to help him out."
577
00:22:13,541 --> 00:22:15,543
And I talked
to Kobe about that.
578
00:22:15,543 --> 00:22:18,337
You just say it's Shaq's team.
Just say it.
579
00:22:18,337 --> 00:22:21,340
And that didn't go over
too well. [laughs]
580
00:22:21,340 --> 00:22:24,051
You know, he used some,
uh, choice words
581
00:22:24,051 --> 00:22:25,636
about, uh, about Shaq.
582
00:22:25,636 --> 00:22:27,930
"Fuck that motherfucker."
[laughs]
583
00:22:27,930 --> 00:22:30,558
Can I say that?
584
00:22:30,558 --> 00:22:32,476
REPORTER: You guys had
a fight, you and Shaq.
585
00:22:32,476 --> 00:22:34,228
What was that all about?
What happened?
586
00:22:34,228 --> 00:22:35,396
KOBE:
Like I say, we're very similar
587
00:22:35,396 --> 00:22:37,064
because
we're both competitive.
588
00:22:37,064 --> 00:22:39,441
So you have two competitive
guys going head-to-head,
589
00:22:39,441 --> 00:22:40,609
you're gonna have fights.
590
00:22:40,609 --> 00:22:42,278
- Did he connect
on the punch he threw?
591
00:22:42,278 --> 00:22:43,863
- No. [laughs]
592
00:22:43,863 --> 00:22:45,155
No, no, no.
593
00:22:45,155 --> 00:22:47,074
I was swift on the duck,
you know?
594
00:22:47,074 --> 00:22:48,951
REPORTER: You ducked out of it?
Did you throw one back?
595
00:22:48,951 --> 00:22:50,411
- Yeah, well, we just
kind of got into, like,
596
00:22:50,411 --> 00:22:52,913
a pushing and shoving match.
597
00:22:52,913 --> 00:22:54,540
- We, uh, touched it up
a little bit,
598
00:22:54,540 --> 00:22:56,584
but it wasn't a fight.
599
00:22:56,584 --> 00:22:59,086
I don't fight.
600
00:22:59,086 --> 00:23:01,380
JOHNNY: The clash
between Kobe and Shaq
601
00:23:01,380 --> 00:23:03,966
was a little greater
than anticipated.
602
00:23:03,966 --> 00:23:06,051
It's not surprising
that the Lakers
603
00:23:06,051 --> 00:23:07,803
went through dysfunction.
604
00:23:07,803 --> 00:23:10,556
Dysfunction is part of the job.
605
00:23:10,556 --> 00:23:12,308
It's part of the business.
606
00:23:12,308 --> 00:23:14,226
REPORTER:
Can Kobe and Shaq co-exist?
607
00:23:14,226 --> 00:23:15,936
Can they make it work
together?
608
00:23:15,936 --> 00:23:17,563
MAGIC:
What they have to understand,
609
00:23:17,563 --> 00:23:20,983
it takes two stars
to win an NBA championship.
610
00:23:20,983 --> 00:23:21,984
You gotta have two.
611
00:23:21,984 --> 00:23:24,987
[soft dramatic music]
612
00:23:24,987 --> 00:23:26,822
♪ ♪
613
00:23:26,822 --> 00:23:28,949
- How well do these guys
have to get along
614
00:23:28,949 --> 00:23:30,367
for the Lakers to win a title?
615
00:23:30,367 --> 00:23:31,911
- Well, they have to be
in sync on the court.
616
00:23:31,911 --> 00:23:33,996
And off the court, they really
don't have to get along.
617
00:23:33,996 --> 00:23:36,749
- I think the expectations
continued to grow,
618
00:23:36,749 --> 00:23:40,252
uh, every year internally
for us
619
00:23:40,252 --> 00:23:43,505
as well as, you know,
media, fans, et cetera.
620
00:23:43,505 --> 00:23:45,758
- You don't have
Batman and Robin.
621
00:23:45,758 --> 00:23:47,843
You have Batman and Superman.
[chuckles]
622
00:23:47,843 --> 00:23:51,263
You know what I'm saying?
You got two alphas.
623
00:23:51,263 --> 00:23:53,682
And they gotta treat
each other with respect.
624
00:23:53,682 --> 00:23:56,060
Or not,
it's gonna be a problem.
625
00:23:56,060 --> 00:23:57,853
- Just creates
this feeling of yearning.
626
00:23:57,853 --> 00:23:59,313
If they can just pull it out,
627
00:23:59,313 --> 00:24:01,815
like, bring it together
for this game, you know.
628
00:24:01,815 --> 00:24:03,943
♪ ♪
629
00:24:03,943 --> 00:24:06,278
J.A.: Every little thing
becomes magnified
630
00:24:06,278 --> 00:24:07,529
because it could
be the difference
631
00:24:07,529 --> 00:24:08,906
between a championship or not.
632
00:24:08,906 --> 00:24:11,700
It could be the difference
between a dynasty or not.
633
00:24:11,700 --> 00:24:13,369
JEANIE: When you have
a player like Shaq,
634
00:24:13,369 --> 00:24:16,997
you should be
winning championships.
635
00:24:16,997 --> 00:24:18,749
And we were losing
in the playoffs.
636
00:24:19,959 --> 00:24:22,920
SHAQ:
'97, we lost.
637
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,464
'98, I think swept.
638
00:24:27,007 --> 00:24:29,677
Dr. Buss never even talked
about the pressure,
639
00:24:29,677 --> 00:24:31,178
but I knew.
640
00:24:31,178 --> 00:24:33,722
"Shaq, we just gave you
120 million.
641
00:24:33,722 --> 00:24:35,516
You got to step up."
642
00:24:35,516 --> 00:24:37,935
REPORTER: The criticism of you
is that you have too much fun
643
00:24:37,935 --> 00:24:40,729
doing other things and that
basketball is not your focus.
644
00:24:42,356 --> 00:24:44,733
SHAQ: Dr. J did a movie,
Kareem did a movie.
645
00:24:44,733 --> 00:24:46,568
"Shaq, you're doing too much."
646
00:24:46,568 --> 00:24:47,945
"Shaq's not ready."
647
00:24:47,945 --> 00:24:49,196
It's all my fault.
648
00:24:49,196 --> 00:24:51,573
Which I accept, I understand.
649
00:24:51,573 --> 00:24:54,994
But what I'm realizing is,
everybody,
650
00:24:54,994 --> 00:24:59,081
when it comes to coaching,
is thinking just like I am.
651
00:24:59,081 --> 00:25:01,291
- Del Harris would
have been a great coach
652
00:25:01,291 --> 00:25:02,751
for that team in the mid-'90s.
653
00:25:02,751 --> 00:25:05,838
But now the standards
and expectations change
654
00:25:05,838 --> 00:25:08,173
when you get the likes
of a Shaquille O'Neal.
655
00:25:08,173 --> 00:25:10,009
[indistinct chatter]
656
00:25:10,009 --> 00:25:11,427
KURT:
Del was a teacher.
657
00:25:11,427 --> 00:25:15,472
And that was one of the issues
that developed over time.
658
00:25:18,475 --> 00:25:20,561
He let the players run,
you know,
659
00:25:20,561 --> 00:25:22,271
and then there was
something to be taught,
660
00:25:22,271 --> 00:25:26,066
so then everyone would have
to come to a standstill.
661
00:25:26,066 --> 00:25:27,776
- You know,
shootarounds a lot of times
662
00:25:27,776 --> 00:25:31,238
would end up being
a Del lecture session.
663
00:25:31,238 --> 00:25:34,491
And then you'd just see
players just go sit down.
664
00:25:34,491 --> 00:25:37,161
ROBERT: He was on the verge
of losing everybody.
665
00:25:37,161 --> 00:25:40,456
And once you lose a guy,
it's hard to get him back.
666
00:25:40,456 --> 00:25:42,499
- He had already lost Nick.
667
00:25:42,499 --> 00:25:46,837
- I think we lost each other.
Del and I lost each other.
668
00:25:46,837 --> 00:25:49,381
EDDIE: Del was calling plays
from the sideline.
669
00:25:49,381 --> 00:25:51,633
And Nick, he hated that.
670
00:25:51,633 --> 00:25:54,386
But then the next day,
it kind of erupted.
671
00:25:54,386 --> 00:25:56,722
We had to pull Nick away,
pull Del away.
672
00:25:56,722 --> 00:25:58,390
I mean, they got
in each other's face.
673
00:25:58,390 --> 00:26:03,645
- You got 70-year-old Del
ready to physically fight.
674
00:26:03,645 --> 00:26:05,439
- Del was like, "Come on.
675
00:26:05,439 --> 00:26:06,523
"You're gonna walk over here,
676
00:26:06,523 --> 00:26:07,858
but you're gonna crawl back."
677
00:26:07,858 --> 00:26:09,735
- [laughs]
678
00:26:09,735 --> 00:26:10,986
Next thing you know,
they're gonna say
679
00:26:10,986 --> 00:26:12,112
Del did like this to me.
680
00:26:12,112 --> 00:26:13,614
[laughs]
No, man.
681
00:26:13,614 --> 00:26:16,158
I had a ball in my hand and
he slapped it out of my hand.
682
00:26:16,158 --> 00:26:19,995
So to me, it wasn't a big deal.
683
00:26:19,995 --> 00:26:22,790
EDDIE: And Del and Shaq,
they had their conflict.
684
00:26:22,790 --> 00:26:25,834
Once Shaquille feels,
though, you're not capable,
685
00:26:25,834 --> 00:26:27,211
he wants you out of there.
686
00:26:28,754 --> 00:26:30,464
SHAQ: My thing
with all the coaches was,
687
00:26:30,464 --> 00:26:32,508
if you haven't been
to the mountaintop...
688
00:26:32,508 --> 00:26:34,843
♪ ♪
689
00:26:34,843 --> 00:26:37,763
- My dad's like,
"I've got to keep Shaq happy."
690
00:26:37,763 --> 00:26:41,475
He was gonna find
whatever it took
691
00:26:41,475 --> 00:26:43,393
to make Shaq successful
692
00:26:43,393 --> 00:26:46,647
and take him back
to the promised land.
693
00:26:46,647 --> 00:26:47,773
WEST:
I was sitting in my office,
694
00:26:47,773 --> 00:26:49,149
and I get a call
from Jerry Buss.
695
00:26:49,149 --> 00:26:50,400
[phone ringing]
696
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,945
He said, "I just let Del go."
697
00:26:52,945 --> 00:26:55,197
And I'm--whoa.
698
00:26:55,197 --> 00:26:56,198
[cheers and applause]
699
00:26:56,198 --> 00:26:57,699
He was my friend.
700
00:26:59,159 --> 00:27:00,661
- West is coming
into the room, guys.
701
00:27:00,661 --> 00:27:02,538
- We just feel
at this point in time
702
00:27:02,538 --> 00:27:05,499
that, um, uh, we're not going
in the right direction.
703
00:27:05,499 --> 00:27:08,252
We felt a coaching change
was necessary.
704
00:27:08,252 --> 00:27:12,464
- I was surprised when I was
let go, as a matter of fact.
705
00:27:12,464 --> 00:27:16,176
This is being like a guy having
three bad days on the market
706
00:27:16,176 --> 00:27:17,970
and selling everything.
707
00:27:17,970 --> 00:27:19,138
PRODUCER:
Doesn't seem fair.
708
00:27:19,138 --> 00:27:20,889
- Well, I don't care
about fair.
709
00:27:20,889 --> 00:27:22,641
It's just not sensible.
710
00:27:22,641 --> 00:27:25,936
ANNOUNCER: Head coach, first
time we've ever said that,
711
00:27:25,936 --> 00:27:27,771
is Kurt Rambis.
712
00:27:27,771 --> 00:27:31,024
KURT: You know, this was
a very difficult season.
713
00:27:31,024 --> 00:27:32,109
I'm a young coach.
714
00:27:32,109 --> 00:27:33,902
I'm trying to deal
with all of this.
715
00:27:33,902 --> 00:27:38,532
And there was so much pressure
to win a championship.
716
00:27:38,532 --> 00:27:40,158
So that didn't really--
[chuckles]
717
00:27:40,158 --> 00:27:43,453
You know,
bode well for me, either.
718
00:27:43,453 --> 00:27:46,540
JEANIE:
We needed to be successful.
719
00:27:46,540 --> 00:27:49,459
There was a big financial crush
720
00:27:49,459 --> 00:27:52,087
because we were moving
into a new arena.
721
00:27:53,547 --> 00:27:55,924
Staples Center was gonna open,
722
00:27:55,924 --> 00:27:58,176
this era was gonna end.
723
00:27:58,176 --> 00:28:00,804
The Forum was gonna end.
724
00:28:00,804 --> 00:28:02,598
CHICK: Halfway up
to the ceiling at the Forum
725
00:28:02,598 --> 00:28:03,932
here in Los Angeles.
726
00:28:03,932 --> 00:28:05,434
Lakers moving from our right
to our left.
727
00:28:05,434 --> 00:28:06,977
And the tip between...
728
00:28:06,977 --> 00:28:08,812
INTERVIEWER: Dr. Buss,
let me ask you, first of all,
729
00:28:08,812 --> 00:28:12,065
why would you want
to buy the Forum?
730
00:28:12,065 --> 00:28:15,903
- The Forum is a magnificent
piece of real estate.
731
00:28:15,903 --> 00:28:20,198
So it's a combination
of economics and, uh, fun.
732
00:28:21,617 --> 00:28:23,744
JEANIE:
The Forum was his home.
733
00:28:23,744 --> 00:28:27,372
And he loved that building,
he really did.
734
00:28:27,372 --> 00:28:28,790
BUSS:
I didn't want to go.
735
00:28:28,790 --> 00:28:30,959
I don't think anybody
wanted to go, really.
736
00:28:30,959 --> 00:28:34,046
It was just kind of like
a mom-and-pop operation.
737
00:28:34,046 --> 00:28:36,465
I mean, everybody there
knew everybody else.
738
00:28:36,465 --> 00:28:37,925
- All the employees
at the Forum,
739
00:28:37,925 --> 00:28:41,261
all the ushers, everybody,
we were all family basically.
740
00:28:41,261 --> 00:28:44,139
JOHNNY: But, uh, the Forum
was getting older,
741
00:28:44,139 --> 00:28:47,726
and he was worried about that
it was going to cost him money
742
00:28:47,726 --> 00:28:49,519
to keep the maintenance up.
743
00:28:49,519 --> 00:28:51,438
♪ ♪
744
00:28:51,438 --> 00:28:54,816
- You're watching
the Detroit Pistons opening up
745
00:28:54,816 --> 00:28:58,236
the Palace in Auburn Hills--
746
00:28:58,236 --> 00:29:01,198
luxury seating and suites.
747
00:29:01,198 --> 00:29:04,660
All these things that we just
couldn't do at the Forum.
748
00:29:04,660 --> 00:29:07,621
We didn't have the space.
749
00:29:07,621 --> 00:29:10,457
So the world was changing,
750
00:29:10,457 --> 00:29:14,920
and my dad wasn't interested
in building a new arena.
751
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,381
He didn't want
to take on that task.
752
00:29:17,381 --> 00:29:20,133
- And there was just
not enough money to do it.
753
00:29:20,133 --> 00:29:21,635
♪ ♪
754
00:29:21,635 --> 00:29:24,846
JEANIE:
My dad sold the Kings in 1987.
755
00:29:24,846 --> 00:29:26,848
And the new owner sold
the team
756
00:29:26,848 --> 00:29:28,850
to Phil Anschutz in the '90s.
757
00:29:28,850 --> 00:29:33,230
And he was looking
to build an arena in LA.
758
00:29:33,230 --> 00:29:36,984
- Well, I'd never met, uh,
Dr. Buss before.
759
00:29:36,984 --> 00:29:39,945
We had only had, I think,
two meetings
760
00:29:39,945 --> 00:29:43,323
before we consummated
the deal.
761
00:29:43,323 --> 00:29:44,992
JEANIE:
And Phil said,
762
00:29:44,992 --> 00:29:47,869
"I'm taking a lot of risk
to build this arena.
763
00:29:47,869 --> 00:29:51,456
"Your team is going to benefit
and go up in value,
764
00:29:51,456 --> 00:29:54,793
and I should get a piece
of your upside."
765
00:29:54,793 --> 00:29:57,879
- My dad had to basically
sell a piece of the team,
766
00:29:57,879 --> 00:29:59,339
which he didn't want to do.
767
00:29:59,339 --> 00:30:02,467
- I wanted to buy more
of the Lakers,
768
00:30:02,467 --> 00:30:05,053
and he wanted to sell me less.
769
00:30:05,053 --> 00:30:09,516
But like much of life,
all things are compromises.
770
00:30:09,516 --> 00:30:14,146
- And we knew that when we came
to Staples that this was now,
771
00:30:14,146 --> 00:30:17,983
uh, entering into
the corporate century.
772
00:30:17,983 --> 00:30:21,194
- My dad made an agreement
that the Lakers would
773
00:30:21,194 --> 00:30:23,739
move into that new arena
774
00:30:23,739 --> 00:30:25,490
in downtown Los Angeles.
775
00:30:26,742 --> 00:30:31,830
GOLDSTEIN: 20 years ago,
downtown LA was very sad.
776
00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:37,252
I rarely went downtown.
Maybe once or twice a year.
777
00:30:37,252 --> 00:30:38,587
- Wasn't very pretty.
778
00:30:38,587 --> 00:30:40,964
And it wasn't someplace
you'd like to walk alone.
779
00:30:40,964 --> 00:30:43,592
Well, frankly, it still isn't.
780
00:30:43,592 --> 00:30:47,137
ANDY: It was an adult dose.
Be careful where you walk.
781
00:30:47,137 --> 00:30:50,057
Be in good company
and watch your back.
782
00:30:50,057 --> 00:30:52,350
- Our season ticket
holders were,
783
00:30:52,350 --> 00:30:53,977
"I don't want
to drive downtown.
784
00:30:53,977 --> 00:30:57,481
Nobody goes downtown.
It's too dangerous."
785
00:30:58,690 --> 00:31:01,276
Now you're talking
about a lot more risk,
786
00:31:01,276 --> 00:31:03,445
a lot more money
that could be lost.
787
00:31:03,445 --> 00:31:06,948
♪ ♪
788
00:31:06,948 --> 00:31:11,161
As we got closer and closer
to Staples Center opening,
789
00:31:11,161 --> 00:31:13,497
there was just
a lot of anxiety
790
00:31:13,497 --> 00:31:16,166
about what the future
was gonna hold.
791
00:31:16,166 --> 00:31:17,667
- Jerry Buss tells me
all the time
792
00:31:17,667 --> 00:31:20,087
that he wants
a championship-caliber team.
793
00:31:20,087 --> 00:31:24,341
JEANIE: He made a big
investment in Shaq and Kobe
794
00:31:24,341 --> 00:31:25,759
right out of high school.
795
00:31:25,759 --> 00:31:29,054
Did we miscalculate
on what he's gonna be?
796
00:31:29,054 --> 00:31:32,307
And you know,
it just wasn't working.
797
00:31:32,307 --> 00:31:37,604
♪ ♪
798
00:31:37,604 --> 00:31:40,357
There was no longer
a reason for me
799
00:31:40,357 --> 00:31:42,400
to be general manager
of the Forum,
800
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,945
and my dad gave me the title
801
00:31:44,945 --> 00:31:48,281
executive vice president
of business operations.
802
00:31:48,281 --> 00:31:51,076
That meant that
I was an executive
803
00:31:51,076 --> 00:31:53,995
on the Lakers side of things.
804
00:31:56,164 --> 00:31:59,376
You know, I wasn't aware
of any hard feelings
805
00:31:59,376 --> 00:32:02,671
from my siblings when
I moved in that position.
806
00:32:02,671 --> 00:32:07,259
That was something that my dad
had been grooming me towards.
807
00:32:07,259 --> 00:32:08,593
I've learned from the best,
808
00:32:08,593 --> 00:32:12,139
and that gives instant
recognition and respect.
809
00:32:12,139 --> 00:32:14,391
[soft tense music]
810
00:32:14,391 --> 00:32:16,351
I, like,
was at the office every day,
811
00:32:16,351 --> 00:32:18,812
and that wasn't something
that either of them
812
00:32:18,812 --> 00:32:20,772
really wanted to be
at the office every day.
813
00:32:22,149 --> 00:32:24,234
JOHNNY: I mean,
I was proud of my sister
814
00:32:24,234 --> 00:32:27,154
taking over the Laker job.
815
00:32:27,154 --> 00:32:30,532
And I was proud to be
involved in women's sports.
816
00:32:30,532 --> 00:32:32,617
During the building
of the Staples Center,
817
00:32:32,617 --> 00:32:34,327
I was excited about it,
818
00:32:34,327 --> 00:32:37,998
but it was bittersweet
at that time.
819
00:32:37,998 --> 00:32:39,916
The Lakers and Kings
were asked to go
820
00:32:39,916 --> 00:32:42,586
to the Staples Center
821
00:32:42,586 --> 00:32:45,130
and the Sparks were not.
822
00:32:45,130 --> 00:32:48,592
♪ ♪
823
00:32:48,592 --> 00:32:50,510
It was just hurtful, you know?
824
00:32:50,510 --> 00:32:52,596
It was like, why weren't
we asked to come over?
825
00:32:54,055 --> 00:32:55,473
MICHAEL:
I felt the same,
826
00:32:55,473 --> 00:32:57,142
that the Staples Center
should have invited us.
827
00:32:57,142 --> 00:32:59,352
Because the WNBA,
the Sparks and the Lakers,
828
00:32:59,352 --> 00:33:00,854
were a whole entity.
829
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,149
JOHNNY:
It was like, "Wow, okay.
830
00:33:04,149 --> 00:33:08,153
Women's basketball is
second-class citizens again."
831
00:33:08,153 --> 00:33:10,030
- But before you get
too excited about the new
832
00:33:10,030 --> 00:33:11,448
additions to the league,
remember,
833
00:33:11,448 --> 00:33:13,742
all of the players
are still women.
834
00:33:13,742 --> 00:33:16,912
- It was hurtful to hear,
835
00:33:16,912 --> 00:33:18,705
you know,
people make the jokes.
836
00:33:18,705 --> 00:33:20,624
And I could relate to it
837
00:33:20,624 --> 00:33:22,626
'cause I'd heard it
for so many years
838
00:33:22,626 --> 00:33:26,880
about everything about a woman
being involved in sports.
839
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,424
- You know, I mean,
it makes me second-guess.
840
00:33:29,424 --> 00:33:33,970
Well, what am I really doing?
Am I doing something good here?
841
00:33:33,970 --> 00:33:37,766
Or is it just to comfort me,
uh, for a job?
842
00:33:37,766 --> 00:33:42,229
Am I just being appeased
by my father and my family?
843
00:33:45,190 --> 00:33:46,524
- It has been well-documented,
844
00:33:46,524 --> 00:33:48,693
a tumultuous year
for the Laker organization.
845
00:33:48,693 --> 00:33:51,655
The firing of coach Del Harris
12 games into the season
846
00:33:51,655 --> 00:33:54,241
and now, finally,
the playoffs have arrived
847
00:33:54,241 --> 00:33:57,077
for a team that had
such high expectations
848
00:33:57,077 --> 00:33:59,162
at the beginning of the year.
849
00:33:59,162 --> 00:34:01,790
[suspenseful music]
850
00:34:01,790 --> 00:34:04,292
ANNOUNCER:
San Antonio sweeps.
851
00:34:04,292 --> 00:34:05,543
What does the future hold
852
00:34:05,543 --> 00:34:09,089
for the Lakers
and for Kurt Rambis?
853
00:34:09,089 --> 00:34:11,466
SHAQ:
I already had a grace period.
854
00:34:11,466 --> 00:34:14,261
We know you're not gonna
win this year--you're close.
855
00:34:14,261 --> 00:34:17,597
But around the third
time getting swept,
856
00:34:17,597 --> 00:34:19,057
now it's time to make moves.
857
00:34:19,057 --> 00:34:22,727
And then finally,
I went upstairs and said, uh,
858
00:34:22,727 --> 00:34:25,814
"Hey, man,
Phil Jackson is available."
859
00:34:25,814 --> 00:34:28,817
[Steve Miller Band's
"Fly Like an Eagle"]
860
00:34:28,817 --> 00:34:30,610
♪ ♪
861
00:34:30,610 --> 00:34:32,112
STEVE MILLER:
♪ Tick tock tick ♪
862
00:34:32,112 --> 00:34:33,738
♪ Doo doo doo-doo ♪
863
00:34:33,738 --> 00:34:35,907
[hawk shrieks]
864
00:34:35,907 --> 00:34:39,703
♪ Time keeps on slippin',
slippin', slippin' ♪
865
00:34:39,703 --> 00:34:42,038
PHIL:
In June of that year,
866
00:34:42,038 --> 00:34:45,917
I was in Montana
to spend my summer.
867
00:34:45,917 --> 00:34:49,254
From having played
14 years in the NBA,
868
00:34:49,254 --> 00:34:52,549
I just know that you spend
a lot of time on the road,
869
00:34:52,549 --> 00:34:54,801
a lot of time away from family.
870
00:34:54,801 --> 00:34:58,305
and you needed to have
a spot to recreate.
871
00:34:58,305 --> 00:35:00,348
STEVE MILLER:
♪ To the sea ♪
872
00:35:00,348 --> 00:35:01,725
♪ Fly like an eagle ♪
873
00:35:01,725 --> 00:35:03,518
PHIL:
I was a fly fisherman,
874
00:35:03,518 --> 00:35:05,478
did a lot
of motorcycle riding,
875
00:35:05,478 --> 00:35:08,523
all stuff
that really coordinated
876
00:35:08,523 --> 00:35:11,735
with the great outdoors,
the Rocky Mountains.
877
00:35:13,194 --> 00:35:16,740
- We had to "interview" Phil.
878
00:35:16,740 --> 00:35:18,783
They sent me out.
879
00:35:18,783 --> 00:35:20,118
Phil said, "Before you come in,
880
00:35:20,118 --> 00:35:22,245
I need you to move this log
out the lake."
881
00:35:22,245 --> 00:35:24,372
[soft hopeful music]
882
00:35:24,372 --> 00:35:26,541
And I'm saying to myself,
883
00:35:26,541 --> 00:35:27,917
"I'm not moving
no motherfucking log
884
00:35:27,917 --> 00:35:29,628
out no motherfucking lake."
885
00:35:29,628 --> 00:35:32,297
And then I said,
"It's a test, I know."
886
00:35:32,297 --> 00:35:34,424
'Cause it's stuff
my father used to do.
887
00:35:34,424 --> 00:35:37,761
And Phil Jackson is
a white version of my father.
888
00:35:37,761 --> 00:35:39,596
My father was
a drill sergeant.
889
00:35:39,596 --> 00:35:41,556
He demanded respect.
890
00:35:41,556 --> 00:35:43,725
Because Phil had
a great résumé,
891
00:35:43,725 --> 00:35:46,394
he also demanded respect.
892
00:35:46,394 --> 00:35:48,146
PHIL: I always felt like
Shaq had so many
893
00:35:48,146 --> 00:35:53,234
other things going on,
films, music, appearances,
894
00:35:53,234 --> 00:35:55,987
that basketball wasn't
his first priority.
895
00:35:55,987 --> 00:35:58,573
And I just encouraged him
to really,
896
00:35:58,573 --> 00:36:01,159
you know, give basketball
your full attention.
897
00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:04,037
- You say don't go out,
no more clubs for me.
898
00:36:04,037 --> 00:36:06,498
You say no more movies,
no more movies for me.
899
00:36:06,498 --> 00:36:09,709
No more rapping,
no more nothing for me.
900
00:36:09,709 --> 00:36:11,628
What do you want me to do?
901
00:36:11,628 --> 00:36:13,254
All right, I'm doing it.
902
00:36:13,254 --> 00:36:15,465
Shaq, go move the log
in the cold-ass water.
903
00:36:15,465 --> 00:36:17,258
Yes, sir.
[loud splash]
904
00:36:19,260 --> 00:36:20,762
And he gives me a towel.
905
00:36:20,762 --> 00:36:23,139
He says, "Hey, go in here
and get changed."
906
00:36:23,139 --> 00:36:24,641
I open the door...
907
00:36:24,641 --> 00:36:27,811
♪ ♪
908
00:36:27,811 --> 00:36:32,023
And the sun is hitting
these gold balls perfectly.
909
00:36:32,023 --> 00:36:34,526
It was like...
[imitates angelic choir]
910
00:36:36,945 --> 00:36:40,865
I felt like King Arthur
who just passed his last test
911
00:36:40,865 --> 00:36:42,659
and he's about
to become a knight.
912
00:36:42,659 --> 00:36:45,578
And then he said,
"If you listen to me,
913
00:36:45,578 --> 00:36:47,831
I'll make you MVP this year."
914
00:36:47,831 --> 00:36:50,166
So I shake his hand and say,
"Deal."
915
00:36:50,166 --> 00:36:51,918
[seagulls cawing]
916
00:36:51,918 --> 00:36:53,878
JIM:
I was meeting with my dad.
917
00:36:53,878 --> 00:36:55,964
You know, he said,
"Well, we can get Phil,
918
00:36:55,964 --> 00:36:57,382
but he's gonna cost us."
919
00:36:57,382 --> 00:36:59,384
And I said,
"Well, you know the numbers.
920
00:36:59,384 --> 00:37:01,177
"And you get this,
you've got a hell of a chance
921
00:37:01,177 --> 00:37:02,971
of winning some championships."
922
00:37:02,971 --> 00:37:06,975
- After an agreement was made,
Dr. Buss said,
923
00:37:06,975 --> 00:37:10,103
"Really, all I want is
to win another championship."
924
00:37:10,103 --> 00:37:11,688
I said, "Well, I came here
925
00:37:11,688 --> 00:37:14,399
because I think we can win
more than one championship."
926
00:37:14,399 --> 00:37:16,693
NEWSCASTER: In six of the last
eight NBA Finals,
927
00:37:16,693 --> 00:37:18,570
Phil Jackson was on
the winning sideline
928
00:37:18,570 --> 00:37:20,321
as coach of the Chicago Bulls.
929
00:37:20,321 --> 00:37:22,449
Today, Jackson is back
in the spotlight,
930
00:37:22,449 --> 00:37:25,410
named head coach
of the Los Angeles Lakers.
931
00:37:25,410 --> 00:37:27,120
J.A.: They did the press
conference in the same room
932
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:28,955
where they had
the Golden Globes Awards.
933
00:37:28,955 --> 00:37:31,249
[laughs]
Welcome to Hollywood.
934
00:37:31,249 --> 00:37:33,918
And Phil seemed to embrace it.
[cheers and applause]
935
00:37:33,918 --> 00:37:36,546
PHIL: This is a team that,
uh, is talented.
936
00:37:36,546 --> 00:37:39,799
It's young, it's on the verge.
It's been on the verge.
937
00:37:39,799 --> 00:37:42,510
And yet, it hasn't quite
gotten over the top.
938
00:37:42,510 --> 00:37:44,471
J.A.: The arrival
of Phil Jackson meant
939
00:37:44,471 --> 00:37:46,681
that there were
no more excuses.
940
00:37:46,681 --> 00:37:50,894
Something goes awry, they're
not gonna fire the coach.
941
00:37:50,894 --> 00:37:53,271
There's gonna be changes
made to the roster.
942
00:37:53,271 --> 00:37:55,648
It upped the pressure
on Kobe and Shaq.
943
00:37:55,648 --> 00:37:57,650
- Shaq says he wants
to win a championship.
944
00:37:57,650 --> 00:37:59,903
REPORTER: Mm-hmm.
- That's what he said.
945
00:37:59,903 --> 00:38:01,446
Kobe says the same thing.
946
00:38:01,446 --> 00:38:02,989
Well, okay,
we're gonna find out
947
00:38:02,989 --> 00:38:04,783
if all that's true right now.
948
00:38:04,783 --> 00:38:06,075
- I'm gonna ask them
to get in the best shape
949
00:38:06,075 --> 00:38:07,619
they can be in,
because come October,
950
00:38:07,619 --> 00:38:08,953
they're gonna be working.
951
00:38:08,953 --> 00:38:11,122
♪ ♪
952
00:38:11,122 --> 00:38:12,874
JEANIE:
At the press conference,
953
00:38:12,874 --> 00:38:14,709
I'm standing next to Magic,
954
00:38:14,709 --> 00:38:17,462
and you literally see me
roll my eyes
955
00:38:17,462 --> 00:38:19,380
at like, "Oh, my gosh,
956
00:38:19,380 --> 00:38:22,050
this guy is gonna bring
a circus to town."
957
00:38:22,050 --> 00:38:23,843
What are we doing?
958
00:38:23,843 --> 00:38:25,386
- A village coming off a river,
959
00:38:25,386 --> 00:38:26,513
and we got
to the fishing site--
960
00:38:26,513 --> 00:38:28,223
JEANIE:
I already was worried
961
00:38:28,223 --> 00:38:30,433
that Phil was gonna
be a bigger personality
962
00:38:30,433 --> 00:38:31,935
than Shaq or Kobe.
963
00:38:31,935 --> 00:38:35,188
And you know, now we're
at the Beverly Hills Hotel
964
00:38:35,188 --> 00:38:38,650
doing these special
press conferences.
965
00:38:38,650 --> 00:38:42,529
And of course, Phil's,
like, man of the hour.
966
00:38:42,529 --> 00:38:44,906
There was no way
I was gonna, like,
967
00:38:44,906 --> 00:38:48,159
wait in line to meet him.
968
00:38:48,159 --> 00:38:51,204
So I finally met him
in September
969
00:38:51,204 --> 00:38:54,374
in Vancouver
at the league meeting.
970
00:38:54,374 --> 00:38:56,417
PHIL: It was raining
in Vancouver, of course,
971
00:38:56,417 --> 00:38:58,294
the end of September.
972
00:38:58,294 --> 00:39:01,422
I got to the airport,
and Jeanie was sitting
973
00:39:01,422 --> 00:39:03,299
where my plane was
supposed to take off.
974
00:39:03,299 --> 00:39:05,260
I was like,
"Are you on this flight?"
975
00:39:05,260 --> 00:39:06,970
And she said, "No, uh,
976
00:39:06,970 --> 00:39:08,304
"I was on the flight
before this,
977
00:39:08,304 --> 00:39:10,348
"but that was canceled
because of the rain.
978
00:39:10,348 --> 00:39:13,226
And they're putting us
all on the same plane."
979
00:39:13,226 --> 00:39:14,727
I said, "Okay.
980
00:39:14,727 --> 00:39:16,437
Are you in first class?
We can sit together."
981
00:39:16,437 --> 00:39:19,524
"No, I ride in coach."
982
00:39:19,524 --> 00:39:22,110
[soft dramatic music]
983
00:39:22,110 --> 00:39:24,028
So I was really impressed
by that, because I said,
984
00:39:24,028 --> 00:39:26,614
okay, this is something
entirely different.
985
00:39:26,614 --> 00:39:30,118
- And you know, of course,
I'm reading "People" magazine.
986
00:39:30,118 --> 00:39:31,244
And he's like...
987
00:39:31,244 --> 00:39:32,871
[laughing]
"What are you reading?"
988
00:39:32,871 --> 00:39:34,455
And I was embarrassed
that I'm, like,
989
00:39:34,455 --> 00:39:39,168
reading just, you know,
a regular old magazine.
990
00:39:39,168 --> 00:39:41,713
- So we had a conversation
for an hour probably.
991
00:39:41,713 --> 00:39:43,047
The plane was delayed.
992
00:39:43,047 --> 00:39:48,303
♪ ♪
993
00:39:48,303 --> 00:39:50,722
- When I heard his voice,
994
00:39:50,722 --> 00:39:53,057
I don't know what it was
about his voice,
995
00:39:53,057 --> 00:39:54,976
but it just---
996
00:39:54,976 --> 00:39:57,812
it just, you know,
stood me up straight
997
00:39:57,812 --> 00:40:02,734
like this jolt of electricity
or, you know,
998
00:40:02,734 --> 00:40:06,905
when people talk about,
like, love at first sight.
999
00:40:06,905 --> 00:40:09,908
I just fell for him hard.
1000
00:40:09,908 --> 00:40:12,744
♪ ♪
1001
00:40:12,744 --> 00:40:14,412
PHIL:
The next workweek,
1002
00:40:14,412 --> 00:40:16,456
we were in the office
together.
1003
00:40:16,456 --> 00:40:19,459
She sent over a piece of her
birthday cake to my office.
1004
00:40:19,459 --> 00:40:22,086
And so I dropped by and
thanked her for it and said,
1005
00:40:22,086 --> 00:40:23,796
you know, "You want to go
out to dinner tonight?"
1006
00:40:23,796 --> 00:40:25,340
We did.
1007
00:40:25,340 --> 00:40:27,050
- At dinner that night,
1008
00:40:27,050 --> 00:40:31,971
we kind of talked about our--
the spark between us.
1009
00:40:31,971 --> 00:40:34,182
♪ ♪
1010
00:40:34,182 --> 00:40:36,184
PHIL: You know,
I was establishing myself
1011
00:40:36,184 --> 00:40:38,603
as a, you know,
individual person,
1012
00:40:38,603 --> 00:40:41,481
as a single man again.
1013
00:40:41,481 --> 00:40:46,402
I've got five children.
I've been married twice.
1014
00:40:46,402 --> 00:40:49,447
You know, I'm coming out of
a relationship for 25 years.
1015
00:40:49,447 --> 00:40:51,908
So we talked
a little bit about that.
1016
00:40:51,908 --> 00:40:55,078
- I told him that I wanted
to live in truth.
1017
00:40:55,078 --> 00:40:57,664
That was very different for me
1018
00:40:57,664 --> 00:41:01,292
in terms of the way
I was brought up.
1019
00:41:01,292 --> 00:41:03,419
PHIL: She was like,
"My dad kind of left us
1020
00:41:03,419 --> 00:41:06,506
"when I was seven, moved out.
1021
00:41:06,506 --> 00:41:08,424
"And when I went to school,
I told all the kids
1022
00:41:08,424 --> 00:41:10,218
that my dad had died."
1023
00:41:10,218 --> 00:41:12,720
JEANIE:
I got tired of my friends
1024
00:41:12,720 --> 00:41:15,515
asking where my dad was.
1025
00:41:15,515 --> 00:41:17,850
♪ ♪
1026
00:41:17,850 --> 00:41:21,354
Being real, like,
about your emotions,
1027
00:41:21,354 --> 00:41:26,609
that's what
attracted Phil to me.
1028
00:41:26,609 --> 00:41:29,862
You know, for what I thought
he was gonna be
1029
00:41:29,862 --> 00:41:33,408
to what he was
was so different.
1030
00:41:33,408 --> 00:41:36,703
I thought he was gonna
be high demanding,
1031
00:41:36,703 --> 00:41:40,498
consumed by winning.
1032
00:41:40,498 --> 00:41:42,375
He is consumed by winning,
1033
00:41:42,375 --> 00:41:45,211
but he also knows
he's consumed by winning
1034
00:41:45,211 --> 00:41:48,506
and is consumed with having
a balance in his life.
1035
00:41:48,506 --> 00:41:50,341
And not only for himself,
1036
00:41:50,341 --> 00:41:53,469
but for the people
surrounding him.
1037
00:41:53,469 --> 00:41:56,848
♪ ♪
1038
00:41:56,848 --> 00:42:00,268
I said, "You know, if we are
gonna see each other,
1039
00:42:00,268 --> 00:42:03,104
"I'm not gonna do it
behind anyone's back.
1040
00:42:03,104 --> 00:42:05,398
It has to come
with full disclosure."
1041
00:42:05,398 --> 00:42:07,775
And so we had to go
through that process
1042
00:42:07,775 --> 00:42:12,030
of letting people know,
which was tough.
1043
00:42:12,030 --> 00:42:14,282
[phone ringing]
1044
00:42:14,282 --> 00:42:15,992
JIM:
I think my dad called me.
1045
00:42:15,992 --> 00:42:19,078
He says, "You're not gonna
believe who Jeanie's dating."
1046
00:42:19,078 --> 00:42:20,246
I said, "Well, who?"
1047
00:42:20,246 --> 00:42:23,041
You know,
and I'm thinking Wayne Gretzky.
1048
00:42:23,041 --> 00:42:25,960
[laughing] Or, you know,
something like that.
1049
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:27,295
He goes, "No. Phil."
1050
00:42:31,007 --> 00:42:34,761
I go, "Are you kidding me?
Phil-Phil?"
1051
00:42:34,761 --> 00:42:37,180
And he goes, "Yes. Phil-Phil."
[laughs]
1052
00:42:37,180 --> 00:42:38,639
And that was the conversation.
1053
00:42:38,639 --> 00:42:40,808
- I remember when she told me,
1054
00:42:40,808 --> 00:42:42,101
and it was almost like,
1055
00:42:42,101 --> 00:42:43,895
"Oh, my gosh.
Are you kidding me?"
1056
00:42:43,895 --> 00:42:46,105
Like "Ooh, you're dating
that guy?" you know?
1057
00:42:46,105 --> 00:42:48,399
He was definitely older.
1058
00:42:48,399 --> 00:42:52,487
- I think my father
was a little, uh,
1059
00:42:52,487 --> 00:42:54,447
taken back by it.
1060
00:42:54,447 --> 00:42:56,324
PRODUCER: Do you think
that the age difference
1061
00:42:56,324 --> 00:42:57,450
bothered him at all?
1062
00:42:57,450 --> 00:42:58,576
- [chuckles]
1063
00:42:58,576 --> 00:43:00,495
He was living
that age difference.
1064
00:43:02,038 --> 00:43:06,042
He just felt that there was
a conflict of interest now.
1065
00:43:06,042 --> 00:43:08,169
Anything that he talked
to Phil about
1066
00:43:08,169 --> 00:43:09,378
was gonna get to Jeanie.
1067
00:43:09,378 --> 00:43:10,922
Anything that he talked
to Jeanie about
1068
00:43:10,922 --> 00:43:12,256
was gonna get to Phil.
1069
00:43:12,256 --> 00:43:15,885
So now he had to choose
his words carefully,
1070
00:43:15,885 --> 00:43:19,013
and I don't think
he liked that.
1071
00:43:19,013 --> 00:43:21,432
REPORTER: How do you react
when they give him heat
1072
00:43:21,432 --> 00:43:23,768
for being in love
with the boss's daughter?
1073
00:43:23,768 --> 00:43:25,144
JEANIE:
[laughs]
1074
00:43:25,144 --> 00:43:27,230
We're not Brad Pitt
and Jennifer Aniston.
1075
00:43:27,230 --> 00:43:31,025
You know, we're two adults
who have lived long lives
1076
00:43:31,025 --> 00:43:32,401
and had experiences.
1077
00:43:32,401 --> 00:43:34,737
I really don't understand
the fascination.
1078
00:43:34,737 --> 00:43:37,240
- It did bug Jerry West.
1079
00:43:37,240 --> 00:43:38,741
WEST: You know,
particularly with Jeanie,
1080
00:43:38,741 --> 00:43:41,661
who now was getting
more involved with the team,
1081
00:43:41,661 --> 00:43:44,539
my concern in a small
organization like that,
1082
00:43:44,539 --> 00:43:48,126
was that gonna permeate
and divide people?
1083
00:43:48,126 --> 00:43:50,586
Didn't like it.
Did not like it.
1084
00:43:56,425 --> 00:43:59,804
BRIAN: I come down to LA,
'99-2000 season.
1085
00:43:59,804 --> 00:44:03,015
By that time, I was 11 years
or so in the league.
1086
00:44:03,015 --> 00:44:06,602
And I had played with Shaq
in Orlando.
1087
00:44:06,602 --> 00:44:08,396
But Phil was different.
1088
00:44:08,396 --> 00:44:10,690
In that first year in LA,
1089
00:44:10,690 --> 00:44:14,402
I think all of us collectively
as a team were like,
1090
00:44:14,402 --> 00:44:16,404
"This dude is
a little strange.
1091
00:44:16,404 --> 00:44:19,282
"Man, what does all this
stuff that he has us doing
1092
00:44:19,282 --> 00:44:20,616
have to do with basketball?"
1093
00:44:20,616 --> 00:44:24,579
[soft upbeat music]
1094
00:44:24,579 --> 00:44:25,872
- He comes in the room,
1095
00:44:25,872 --> 00:44:27,707
and all of a sudden,
we smelling this stuff.
1096
00:44:27,707 --> 00:44:29,125
We're like, "What the--
what is the--
1097
00:44:29,125 --> 00:44:31,335
someone smoking weed?"
1098
00:44:31,335 --> 00:44:33,171
He's going to everybody's
locker and, like,
1099
00:44:33,171 --> 00:44:34,463
he's, like, trying to,
you know,
1100
00:44:34,463 --> 00:44:37,091
get out the demons and stuff.
1101
00:44:37,091 --> 00:44:38,092
REPORTER:
And one last question.
1102
00:44:38,092 --> 00:44:39,594
Zen master, tell me about that.
1103
00:44:39,594 --> 00:44:41,053
- Well it's just
something I taught
1104
00:44:41,053 --> 00:44:42,555
these, uh, players about.
1105
00:44:42,555 --> 00:44:44,932
Uh, you know,
learning how to meditate,
1106
00:44:44,932 --> 00:44:47,894
learning how to put
their mind, uh, at ease.
1107
00:44:47,894 --> 00:44:50,813
- I'm looking at him like...
1108
00:44:50,813 --> 00:44:52,190
"Stop talking back.
1109
00:44:52,190 --> 00:44:54,317
Michael and Scottie
did the meditation."
1110
00:44:54,317 --> 00:44:57,069
A'ight.
They did it, I'ma do it.
1111
00:44:57,069 --> 00:44:58,571
Every day he come in
with the sage,
1112
00:44:58,571 --> 00:45:00,698
and we got a chance
to meditate before practice.
1113
00:45:00,698 --> 00:45:02,950
[inhales deeply]
Go to a more quiet place.
1114
00:45:02,950 --> 00:45:04,410
DEVEAN:
It was my rookie year,
1115
00:45:04,410 --> 00:45:06,913
and I had the worst person
sitting behind me.
1116
00:45:06,913 --> 00:45:09,123
Couldn't hold attention
for more than five minutes.
1117
00:45:09,123 --> 00:45:12,251
And that's Shaq, kicking
my chair the whole time.
1118
00:45:12,251 --> 00:45:14,795
- We sat there and hummed
for about a half hour.
1119
00:45:14,795 --> 00:45:16,964
REPORTER:
And you thought to yourself?
1120
00:45:16,964 --> 00:45:18,841
- Oh, this not too bad.
[reporter laughs]
1121
00:45:18,841 --> 00:45:20,051
At least we're not floating.
1122
00:45:20,051 --> 00:45:21,969
- Zen is something
that brings awareness,
1123
00:45:21,969 --> 00:45:23,721
and it's very much
a part of what I believe
1124
00:45:23,721 --> 00:45:25,514
is the game's important key.
1125
00:45:25,514 --> 00:45:27,850
And if you're aware out there,
it really helps your team.
1126
00:45:27,850 --> 00:45:30,228
- Understanding
and learning meditation
1127
00:45:30,228 --> 00:45:32,980
helped us to slow ourselves
down mentally,
1128
00:45:32,980 --> 00:45:34,899
emotionally, psychologically.
1129
00:45:34,899 --> 00:45:38,361
♪ ♪
1130
00:45:38,361 --> 00:45:40,738
- You know, Phil had this
thing when he came in.
1131
00:45:40,738 --> 00:45:44,659
He'd interview all the players,
and he'd make them read books.
1132
00:45:44,659 --> 00:45:46,744
- What kind of stuff
would he bring in, Shaq?
1133
00:45:46,744 --> 00:45:50,998
- He bought me a book, uh,
by a guy named Nietzsche.
1134
00:45:50,998 --> 00:45:52,083
Nietzsche.
- Really?
1135
00:45:52,083 --> 00:45:54,043
- Yeah.
[laughter and applause]
1136
00:45:54,043 --> 00:45:55,962
Nietzsche wrote a book
called, uh, "Superman."
1137
00:45:55,962 --> 00:45:57,421
But I didn't want
to read about myself,
1138
00:45:57,421 --> 00:46:01,342
so you know, I didn't read it.
[laughter and applause]
1139
00:46:01,342 --> 00:46:03,886
By interviewing us
and by handing out the books,
1140
00:46:03,886 --> 00:46:05,930
he knows what makes us go.
1141
00:46:05,930 --> 00:46:08,557
And if you challenge us,
1142
00:46:08,557 --> 00:46:10,184
most of the time, we step up.
1143
00:46:10,184 --> 00:46:13,187
♪ ♪
1144
00:46:13,187 --> 00:46:14,480
COMMENTATOR:
The opening of Staples
1145
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:15,856
for the Los Angeles Lakers,
1146
00:46:15,856 --> 00:46:18,276
and everybody excited
about this new facility
1147
00:46:18,276 --> 00:46:20,903
and hoping that they'll
get it with a win.
1148
00:46:20,903 --> 00:46:23,281
COMMENTATOR: If it goes,
it'll go off the fingertips.
1149
00:46:23,281 --> 00:46:24,782
DEREK:
You were young.
1150
00:46:24,782 --> 00:46:27,201
So I think that meditation
1151
00:46:27,201 --> 00:46:30,371
just started to help us
connect with each other.
1152
00:46:30,371 --> 00:46:36,335
♪ ♪
1153
00:46:36,335 --> 00:46:39,672
BRIAN:
We ran off 16 games in a row,
1154
00:46:39,672 --> 00:46:41,966
and then we won 19 games
in a row.
1155
00:46:41,966 --> 00:46:46,220
And everybody started to kind
of look at each other and say,
1156
00:46:46,220 --> 00:46:47,972
"This is working."
1157
00:46:49,432 --> 00:46:52,935
We quickly realized
not only did we have
1158
00:46:52,935 --> 00:46:54,937
to apply meditation and use it
1159
00:46:54,937 --> 00:46:58,316
for the basketball
side of things,
1160
00:46:58,316 --> 00:47:01,569
but also in dealing with Kobe.
1161
00:47:01,569 --> 00:47:03,988
[soft pensive music]
1162
00:47:03,988 --> 00:47:07,241
PHIL:
With Kobe, he made a choice.
1163
00:47:07,241 --> 00:47:11,871
And the choice was
to go it alone.
1164
00:47:11,871 --> 00:47:13,581
I do know on the road,
most of the time,
1165
00:47:13,581 --> 00:47:15,082
he spends it in his room.
1166
00:47:15,082 --> 00:47:16,667
And most of the time,
he asks us
1167
00:47:16,667 --> 00:47:18,836
for the tape of the game
we played the night before,
1168
00:47:18,836 --> 00:47:20,546
the opponent we're playing
the next night.
1169
00:47:20,546 --> 00:47:22,006
KOBE: You know,
I would study the game.
1170
00:47:22,006 --> 00:47:23,799
I would think
about our opponents.
1171
00:47:23,799 --> 00:47:26,385
And, uh, not every player
was doing that.
1172
00:47:26,385 --> 00:47:28,971
PHIL: I said to him, you know,
some of the players came to me
1173
00:47:28,971 --> 00:47:30,723
and said, you know,
you don't even want to go down
1174
00:47:30,723 --> 00:47:33,392
and have, you know,
a bite to eat with him.
1175
00:47:33,392 --> 00:47:35,561
- Kobe was extremely quiet.
1176
00:47:35,561 --> 00:47:37,897
Um, sat in the back of the bus.
1177
00:47:37,897 --> 00:47:40,066
- He has on headphones.
1178
00:47:40,066 --> 00:47:41,942
Bobbing his head like
he's listening to music,
1179
00:47:41,942 --> 00:47:45,154
like he's not paying attention
to anybody.
1180
00:47:45,154 --> 00:47:46,530
I go and sit next to him,
1181
00:47:46,530 --> 00:47:48,324
there's nothing
in the headphones.
1182
00:47:48,324 --> 00:47:50,993
He just wants to hear
what these guys are saying.
1183
00:47:50,993 --> 00:47:53,537
- At times it felt like,
you know,
1184
00:47:53,537 --> 00:47:55,331
what, he doesn't want
to be a part of this?
1185
00:47:55,331 --> 00:47:56,957
Or he feels like he's too good
1186
00:47:56,957 --> 00:47:59,126
to, you know,
to hang out with the fellas?
1187
00:47:59,126 --> 00:48:01,212
ANNOUNCER: Kobe Bryant's
coming in the ball game.
1188
00:48:01,212 --> 00:48:03,214
That's what all
the noise is about.
1189
00:48:03,214 --> 00:48:05,049
PHIL:
He saw himself as a star.
1190
00:48:05,049 --> 00:48:08,386
[basketball dribbling]
1191
00:48:11,263 --> 00:48:13,516
ANNOUNCER: And the coach
is all over Kobe.
1192
00:48:13,516 --> 00:48:16,727
- He's saying, I want to be the
best basketball player ever.
1193
00:48:16,727 --> 00:48:20,523
And if I'm restricted
and not scoring points,
1194
00:48:20,523 --> 00:48:23,776
that's not
how I'm gonna be seen.
1195
00:48:23,776 --> 00:48:26,487
Sometimes, players have
to make a sacrifice
1196
00:48:26,487 --> 00:48:28,447
for the betterment of the team.
1197
00:48:28,447 --> 00:48:30,950
- We wanted, as a group,
to kind of address
1198
00:48:30,950 --> 00:48:32,993
Kobe being selfish
on the court.
1199
00:48:32,993 --> 00:48:34,620
KOBE:
Something wasn't right.
1200
00:48:34,620 --> 00:48:36,372
Something wasn't right.
I mean, I go to practice,
1201
00:48:36,372 --> 00:48:38,958
and I feel
a little uncomfortable.
1202
00:48:38,958 --> 00:48:41,085
What the--what's this about?
1203
00:48:41,085 --> 00:48:44,672
PHIL: The mood in
the locker room was not good.
1204
00:48:44,672 --> 00:48:47,633
So I asked the ball boys,
the trainers,
1205
00:48:47,633 --> 00:48:50,803
Jerry West, Mitch Kupchak,
to leave the room.
1206
00:48:50,803 --> 00:48:53,889
I want to talk
to these players alone.
1207
00:48:53,889 --> 00:48:56,434
And then I started out on,
what's going on out there?
1208
00:48:56,434 --> 00:48:58,519
What's going on with you guys?
1209
00:48:58,519 --> 00:49:00,896
They didn't want to talk.
1210
00:49:00,896 --> 00:49:02,857
Rick Fox finally said,
1211
00:49:02,857 --> 00:49:04,316
"You know, we've had trouble
with Kobe.
1212
00:49:04,316 --> 00:49:08,112
Kobe sometimes gets
into his individual act."
1213
00:49:08,112 --> 00:49:11,866
- Anything that doesn't
drive the team agenda,
1214
00:49:11,866 --> 00:49:14,160
like, I have to cut out
like it's cancer.
1215
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:15,995
And so my communication
I think was
1216
00:49:15,995 --> 00:49:18,330
a little probably
more emotional
1217
00:49:18,330 --> 00:49:20,082
than people expected it to be.
1218
00:49:20,082 --> 00:49:22,585
- Rick got so emotional,
I think he cried,
1219
00:49:22,585 --> 00:49:24,420
and he just kind of, like,
went in and just like,
1220
00:49:24,420 --> 00:49:26,088
"That's bull, you know,
you don't trust us.
1221
00:49:26,088 --> 00:49:27,465
You know, we're your brothers."
1222
00:49:27,465 --> 00:49:31,051
- If you don't trust us,
we're not gonna trust you.
1223
00:49:31,051 --> 00:49:33,387
We're not gonna
give you the ball.
1224
00:49:33,387 --> 00:49:35,097
SHAQ: The true definition
of a great player
1225
00:49:35,097 --> 00:49:37,975
is one that makes players
around you better.
1226
00:49:37,975 --> 00:49:40,853
You can't come in
doing that all by yourself,
1227
00:49:40,853 --> 00:49:42,938
pissing everybody off.
1228
00:49:42,938 --> 00:49:45,483
Because now
they don't want to play.
1229
00:49:45,483 --> 00:49:46,650
And we can't
have that right now.
1230
00:49:46,650 --> 00:49:48,486
So yeah, I said
what I had to say.
1231
00:49:48,486 --> 00:49:50,154
And I meant it.
1232
00:49:50,154 --> 00:49:51,864
ROBERT: That was the moment
when everybody
1233
00:49:51,864 --> 00:49:53,782
got some stuff
off their chest.
1234
00:49:53,782 --> 00:49:55,659
And when your teammates
sit back and tell you
1235
00:49:55,659 --> 00:49:58,412
how they view you, are you able
1236
00:49:58,412 --> 00:50:01,290
to absorb that
and understand that?
1237
00:50:01,290 --> 00:50:04,585
- It was about them thinking
I was out for myself
1238
00:50:04,585 --> 00:50:07,838
and I was being selfish,
and, um,
1239
00:50:07,838 --> 00:50:09,882
which was totally not the case.
1240
00:50:09,882 --> 00:50:12,301
- I talked to Jerry West
about it at the time.
1241
00:50:12,301 --> 00:50:14,512
He said, you know,
Kobe doesn't really
1242
00:50:14,512 --> 00:50:18,390
want to win if he wants it
to be about him.
1243
00:50:18,390 --> 00:50:21,477
You know, maybe it'd be best
to move him on.
1244
00:50:21,477 --> 00:50:25,314
[soft tense music]
1245
00:50:25,314 --> 00:50:28,484
- I always say teams emerge
as championship contenders
1246
00:50:28,484 --> 00:50:30,110
by December or January.
1247
00:50:30,110 --> 00:50:32,279
Lakers were one
of those teams.
1248
00:50:33,739 --> 00:50:34,865
They finished
with the best record
1249
00:50:34,865 --> 00:50:36,116
in the league that year.
1250
00:50:36,116 --> 00:50:38,744
But in the postseason,
we learned very early on
1251
00:50:38,744 --> 00:50:41,872
that you can show things
in the regular season,
1252
00:50:41,872 --> 00:50:44,124
and it's a whole
different story learning
1253
00:50:44,124 --> 00:50:46,252
how to win a championship.
1254
00:50:46,252 --> 00:50:47,962
[upbeat music]
1255
00:50:47,962 --> 00:50:50,297
ANNOUNCER: Tonight, it's
the Portland Trail Blazers
1256
00:50:50,297 --> 00:50:52,675
versus the Los Angeles Lakers.
1257
00:50:52,675 --> 00:50:54,885
- I just think, you know,
both teams are just gonna
1258
00:50:54,885 --> 00:50:56,220
come out and lay it
on the line.
1259
00:50:56,220 --> 00:50:57,638
I mean, I think
the pressure's on them
1260
00:50:57,638 --> 00:51:00,182
because everybody
expected them to beat us
1261
00:51:00,182 --> 00:51:02,476
in this series, uh,
so dominantly.
1262
00:51:02,476 --> 00:51:05,729
- Going into that game 7,
we were tied--
1263
00:51:05,729 --> 00:51:07,606
series was tied 3-3.
1264
00:51:07,606 --> 00:51:10,109
J.A.: Game 7 against
Portland was so pivotal,
1265
00:51:10,109 --> 00:51:12,194
because I think
if they don't win that game,
1266
00:51:12,194 --> 00:51:14,989
it's possible Shaq
and Kobe get broken up.
1267
00:51:14,989 --> 00:51:16,323
This thing is gonna be over
1268
00:51:16,323 --> 00:51:18,158
before it even had
a chance to start.
1269
00:51:18,158 --> 00:51:19,785
COMMENTATOR: The Lakers
have to realize that
1270
00:51:19,785 --> 00:51:22,913
they've got 12 minutes to play
with only a 13-point game.
1271
00:51:22,913 --> 00:51:24,456
COMMENTATOR: Not any more.
[both laugh]
1272
00:51:24,456 --> 00:51:27,042
Steve Smith hits
on the run and it's 15.
1273
00:51:27,042 --> 00:51:29,086
- I was at that game, man,
1274
00:51:29,086 --> 00:51:32,923
and we looked like
our dog just died.
1275
00:51:32,923 --> 00:51:34,925
- They were blowing us out.
I was so mad.
1276
00:51:34,925 --> 00:51:36,468
I was so mad.
1277
00:51:36,468 --> 00:51:38,679
I go, this is how
we're going down again?
1278
00:51:38,679 --> 00:51:42,516
- In game 7,
when you're down 15 points
1279
00:51:42,516 --> 00:51:44,602
in the fourth quarter,
1280
00:51:44,602 --> 00:51:47,479
when everything's
about to crumble away,
1281
00:51:47,479 --> 00:51:49,773
Phil says what he says
every day.
1282
00:51:49,773 --> 00:51:52,067
Go to your quiet place.
1283
00:51:52,067 --> 00:51:53,527
He ain't calling no plays.
1284
00:51:53,527 --> 00:51:55,029
Shut the hell up.
1285
00:51:55,029 --> 00:51:57,531
Go to your quiet place.
1286
00:51:57,531 --> 00:51:59,158
He used a little bit
of reverse psychology.
1287
00:51:59,158 --> 00:52:00,826
"Oh, it's been a great year.
1288
00:52:00,826 --> 00:52:02,870
"Knew you pussies
couldn't do it.
1289
00:52:02,870 --> 00:52:05,164
"We'll win next year, but we're
not gonna win this year.
1290
00:52:05,164 --> 00:52:06,415
Good job, guys."
1291
00:52:06,415 --> 00:52:08,292
And then we looking
at each other like, what?
1292
00:52:08,292 --> 00:52:09,501
When we was 13 down,
1293
00:52:09,501 --> 00:52:11,003
I told my guys, look,
do or die.
1294
00:52:11,003 --> 00:52:12,171
The time is now.
1295
00:52:12,171 --> 00:52:13,380
We've been in this
position before,
1296
00:52:13,380 --> 00:52:14,840
and we ain't never lost
three in a row.
1297
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:16,133
Let's play. Let's go.
1298
00:52:16,133 --> 00:52:17,801
- Just kind of like
trying to light a fire.
1299
00:52:17,801 --> 00:52:20,220
You get this little spark,
and you begin to blow on it
1300
00:52:20,220 --> 00:52:22,514
and say, come on,
come on, heat up.
1301
00:52:22,514 --> 00:52:26,477
And, uh,
that's what began to happen.
1302
00:52:26,477 --> 00:52:28,354
SHAQ: It was a whole game
of like, hey, man,
1303
00:52:28,354 --> 00:52:31,815
I know you like to do this,
but I'm right there, dog.
1304
00:52:31,815 --> 00:52:33,484
All right, I got you.
1305
00:52:33,484 --> 00:52:36,070
Kobe's like, hey, Shaq,
instead of trying to shoot
1306
00:52:36,070 --> 00:52:38,864
three or four jump hooks
over four or five people,
1307
00:52:38,864 --> 00:52:40,115
I'm right here.
1308
00:52:40,115 --> 00:52:41,533
All right, I got you, Kob.
1309
00:52:41,533 --> 00:52:43,952
So I kept telling him,
and he kept saying, I got you.
1310
00:52:43,952 --> 00:52:45,329
So right when he's--
1311
00:52:45,329 --> 00:52:47,706
right when he's
crossed Scottie up,
1312
00:52:47,706 --> 00:52:49,708
does he have me?
1313
00:52:49,708 --> 00:52:51,919
COMMENTATOR:
Bryant to Shaq!
1314
00:52:51,919 --> 00:52:55,923
[cheers and applause]
1315
00:52:55,923 --> 00:52:57,383
SNOOP:
I wasn't watching that moment.
1316
00:52:57,383 --> 00:52:59,093
I was at
the motherfucking game.
1317
00:52:59,093 --> 00:53:01,679
I was in the crowd,
you understand me?
1318
00:53:01,679 --> 00:53:03,639
We were so excited, so happy,
1319
00:53:03,639 --> 00:53:05,391
we jumped out
our motherfucking seats.
1320
00:53:05,391 --> 00:53:08,435
COMMENTATOR: Kobe Bryant's
assist to Shaquille O'Neal
1321
00:53:08,435 --> 00:53:11,105
makes it a 6-point
difference with 41...
1322
00:53:11,105 --> 00:53:12,439
SHAQ:
He could have took the shot.
1323
00:53:12,439 --> 00:53:13,982
But he was like,
you know what?
1324
00:53:13,982 --> 00:53:15,651
Big dog's there.
1325
00:53:15,651 --> 00:53:18,070
That meant that
we were finally there.
1326
00:53:18,070 --> 00:53:19,613
- That moment
was so significant
1327
00:53:19,613 --> 00:53:22,991
because that's when you knew
we had the game secured.
1328
00:53:22,991 --> 00:53:26,495
- We found something in that
eight, nine minute stretch
1329
00:53:26,495 --> 00:53:31,500
that defined us for the next,
you know, three or four years.
1330
00:53:31,500 --> 00:53:33,711
COMMENTATOR:
With 41.3 seconds left,
1331
00:53:33,711 --> 00:53:37,089
LA has outscored Portland.
1332
00:53:37,089 --> 00:53:41,593
And that's it--a huge comeback
in the fourth quarter.
1333
00:53:41,593 --> 00:53:43,095
DEREK:
In order to achieve
1334
00:53:43,095 --> 00:53:45,764
what they each want
to achieve,
1335
00:53:45,764 --> 00:53:48,350
the two of them are connected.
1336
00:53:48,350 --> 00:53:50,227
And there's no way
to separate that.
1337
00:53:50,227 --> 00:53:52,813
- Was this the ultimate test
for you all?
1338
00:53:52,813 --> 00:53:54,982
- Up to this point, this
has been the ultimate test.
1339
00:53:54,982 --> 00:53:56,984
- And I knew my teammate was
gonna step up for me tonight,
1340
00:53:56,984 --> 00:53:59,069
because I had to step up
the last two games.
1341
00:53:59,069 --> 00:54:01,238
DEREK: These two guys are
working together this way,
1342
00:54:01,238 --> 00:54:03,031
the rest of the league
has no chance.
1343
00:54:03,031 --> 00:54:04,533
[laughs]
1344
00:54:05,993 --> 00:54:07,745
SNOOP:
The Pacers--
1345
00:54:07,745 --> 00:54:12,666
Reggie Miller,
Jalen Rose, Rik Smits--
1346
00:54:12,666 --> 00:54:15,669
man, we knew we was
gonna dust them off.
1347
00:54:15,669 --> 00:54:17,171
They was weak.
1348
00:54:17,171 --> 00:54:18,464
[dramatic music]
1349
00:54:18,464 --> 00:54:19,882
COMMENTATOR:
Larry Bird says, "We know
1350
00:54:19,882 --> 00:54:21,300
we can beat this team;
however,
1351
00:54:21,300 --> 00:54:22,926
our confidence
isn't always there.
1352
00:54:22,926 --> 00:54:24,428
It comes and goes.
1353
00:54:24,428 --> 00:54:26,764
Tonight will set the tone
for the entire series.
1354
00:54:26,764 --> 00:54:29,600
♪ ♪
1355
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,853
COMMENTATOR:
Pacers--deep to O'Neal.
1356
00:54:32,853 --> 00:54:35,606
Into the lane, to the hoop,
and Shaq catches up.
1357
00:54:35,606 --> 00:54:37,900
[cheers and applause]
1358
00:54:39,610 --> 00:54:41,570
COMMENTATOR:
And that's what he has to do.
1359
00:54:41,570 --> 00:54:43,864
A lot of different ways
to score.
1360
00:54:46,450 --> 00:54:49,077
- The toughest game
for us was in game 4.
1361
00:54:50,412 --> 00:54:52,122
There's always one play
that you go,
1362
00:54:52,122 --> 00:54:55,167
that's the one that killed us.
1363
00:54:55,167 --> 00:54:56,919
It was that tip-in from Kobe.
1364
00:54:56,919 --> 00:54:59,963
[cheers and applause]
1365
00:54:59,963 --> 00:55:04,551
♪ ♪
1366
00:55:04,551 --> 00:55:07,846
- And now uno más to go.
1367
00:55:07,846 --> 00:55:09,056
COMMENTATOR: Here comes
the two-on-one break
1368
00:55:09,056 --> 00:55:10,474
with Kobe and Shaw.
1369
00:55:10,474 --> 00:55:12,100
Kobe in deep, gives to Shaq.
1370
00:55:12,100 --> 00:55:13,477
Shaq is hammered, scores.
1371
00:55:13,477 --> 00:55:15,312
Listen to this crowd!
1372
00:55:15,312 --> 00:55:16,980
[cheers and applause]
The Lakers have the lead!
1373
00:55:16,980 --> 00:55:18,398
COMMENTATOR: To Miller,
he shoots a three.
1374
00:55:18,398 --> 00:55:20,651
No good. Game's over.
[buzzer blares]
1375
00:55:20,651 --> 00:55:23,487
[cheers and applause]
1376
00:55:23,487 --> 00:55:29,493
♪ ♪
1377
00:55:35,999 --> 00:55:37,834
SHAQ:
The mentality that I had,
1378
00:55:37,834 --> 00:55:39,836
if I get to the finals again,
1379
00:55:39,836 --> 00:55:42,548
I'm coming home with this.
1380
00:55:42,548 --> 00:55:45,884
And I followed Phil's orders
and won the MVP too.
1381
00:55:47,302 --> 00:55:49,221
PLAYER: Shaq Diesel!
PLAYER: Yeah, B!
1382
00:55:49,221 --> 00:55:52,182
- Finally got one. Yeah.
1383
00:55:52,182 --> 00:55:53,934
And the mentality that he had,
1384
00:55:53,934 --> 00:55:55,978
I'm getting
one of these trophies too.
1385
00:55:55,978 --> 00:55:57,563
So if you got two people
that have
1386
00:55:57,563 --> 00:56:00,065
that same mentality
plus everybody else
1387
00:56:00,065 --> 00:56:01,984
is on the right page...
1388
00:56:01,984 --> 00:56:04,361
- Is it what you dreamed of?
- Oh, it's everything and more.
1389
00:56:04,361 --> 00:56:05,821
I mean, you have
the Laker colors
1390
00:56:05,821 --> 00:56:07,906
falling from the ceiling
and fans going crazy.
1391
00:56:07,906 --> 00:56:11,410
- You know, to reach
this pinnacle again
1392
00:56:11,410 --> 00:56:13,537
after going all the way down,
1393
00:56:13,537 --> 00:56:15,539
uh, it's just
a fantastic feeling.
1394
00:56:15,539 --> 00:56:16,832
I can tell you.
1395
00:56:16,832 --> 00:56:19,167
It took us ten years.
1396
00:56:19,167 --> 00:56:20,544
REPORTER:
It's really amazing.
1397
00:56:20,544 --> 00:56:22,212
The championship
is back where it belongs.
1398
00:56:22,212 --> 00:56:24,298
BUSS:
It is where it belongs.
1399
00:56:24,298 --> 00:56:26,925
- You know, to see his
just the satisfaction
1400
00:56:26,925 --> 00:56:29,511
and his joy involved in that,
1401
00:56:29,511 --> 00:56:32,431
it was a beautiful moment
for sure.
1402
00:56:32,431 --> 00:56:34,683
JESSE: I was a little kid,
but I've heard these stories
1403
00:56:34,683 --> 00:56:36,143
about how the Lakers won
1404
00:56:36,143 --> 00:56:37,894
so many championships
in the '80s,
1405
00:56:37,894 --> 00:56:40,355
and being there with my father
1406
00:56:40,355 --> 00:56:43,317
to see him
at his peak happiness,
1407
00:56:43,317 --> 00:56:45,319
it made it
that much more special.
1408
00:56:45,319 --> 00:56:47,279
JOEY: Because really,
it was the first time
1409
00:56:47,279 --> 00:56:51,241
me or Jesse really remember,
um, celebrating a championship.
1410
00:56:51,241 --> 00:56:54,369
You know, we were just
so excited to be on that stage
1411
00:56:54,369 --> 00:56:55,871
and be part of that.
1412
00:56:55,871 --> 00:56:59,082
[cheers and applause]
1413
00:56:59,082 --> 00:57:02,210
REPORTER: Is this the
beginning of another dynasty?
1414
00:57:02,210 --> 00:57:04,171
- We'll just have to see
what history says.
1415
00:57:04,171 --> 00:57:06,465
- And Shaq says you're gonna
do it again next year.
1416
00:57:06,465 --> 00:57:08,342
[laughter]
1417
00:57:08,342 --> 00:57:09,551
That's a quote.
1418
00:57:09,551 --> 00:57:10,969
PERSON:
Shaq's right.
1419
00:57:10,969 --> 00:57:12,846
- Well, if Shaq says
we're gonna win,
1420
00:57:12,846 --> 00:57:14,473
uh, who am I to say?
1421
00:57:14,473 --> 00:57:17,142
[laughter]
1422
00:57:17,142 --> 00:57:19,519
Okay, Shaq. Let's do it!
1423
00:57:19,519 --> 00:57:21,355
[laughs]
1424
00:57:21,355 --> 00:57:24,358
[cheers and applause]
1425
00:57:24,358 --> 00:57:26,443
[soft uplifting music]
1426
00:57:26,443 --> 00:57:29,446
[all chanting and cheering]
1427
00:57:29,446 --> 00:57:35,285
♪ ♪
1428
00:57:35,285 --> 00:57:36,620
- Does that make
you feel better?
1429
00:57:36,620 --> 00:57:38,205
You ain't gonna cry now,
are you, Ricky?
1430
00:57:38,205 --> 00:57:39,456
- Whoo!
1431
00:57:39,456 --> 00:57:40,916
- That's what
I'm talking about!
1432
00:57:42,959 --> 00:57:44,920
BUSS:
I'm just happy for the fans.
1433
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:46,797
I mean, I don't care
what city you take--
1434
00:57:46,797 --> 00:57:49,007
New York, Sacramento, Indiana.
1435
00:57:49,007 --> 00:57:50,300
Just forget it.
1436
00:57:50,300 --> 00:57:52,928
This is where the fans are.
1437
00:57:52,928 --> 00:57:54,930
You know, this trophy
belongs to them.
1438
00:57:54,930 --> 00:57:57,599
I'm the keeper,
but they own it.
1439
00:57:59,309 --> 00:58:00,727
REPORTER:
Can you imagine what this
1440
00:58:00,727 --> 00:58:02,437
victory parade
is gonna be like?
1441
00:58:02,437 --> 00:58:04,731
BUSS: I've got a feeling
that Los Angeles
1442
00:58:04,731 --> 00:58:08,485
is gonna turn out in total
for this particular one.
1443
00:58:08,485 --> 00:58:15,492
♪ ♪