1 00:00:05,527 --> 00:00:06,484 Wait, I didn't get lips. 2 00:00:06,615 --> 00:00:08,530 How are my lips? - They look good. 3 00:00:08,704 --> 00:00:10,444 Okay, so, the next day-- 4 00:00:10,445 --> 00:00:12,534 Oh, wait, can you see my pit stains, or no? 5 00:00:12,708 --> 00:00:14,014 No, the shirt totally hides out. 6 00:00:14,231 --> 00:00:16,103 Oh, that's-- 7 00:00:16,233 --> 00:00:18,279 Comin'! Come on in. 8 00:00:19,628 --> 00:00:21,804 - Hey. - Hey. 9 00:00:21,978 --> 00:00:24,981 Um, I think you should check your phone. 10 00:00:25,112 --> 00:00:26,635 Jesus . 11 00:00:28,158 --> 00:00:29,290 Oh, my God. 12 00:00:29,464 --> 00:00:31,901 You done your interview, or just starting? 13 00:00:32,075 --> 00:00:34,686 No, I'm-I'm not. Just starting. 14 00:00:34,817 --> 00:00:36,079 Oh, , it's-- all right. 15 00:00:36,210 --> 00:00:37,907 I haven't read-- I haven't read it yet. - Okay. 16 00:00:38,081 --> 00:00:39,213 Do you wanna read it to me? 17 00:00:39,387 --> 00:00:41,215 Okay. 18 00:00:41,345 --> 00:00:43,913 For the love of God. 19 00:00:44,044 --> 00:00:47,177 "We've seen the growing online speculation, 20 00:00:47,308 --> 00:00:49,614 so while it is still very new, 21 00:00:49,701 --> 00:00:52,052 we wanted to provide some clarity." 22 00:00:52,226 --> 00:00:53,705 - Oh, my God. - "We've shown up for each other 23 00:00:53,836 --> 00:00:55,011 as friends over the years 24 00:00:55,142 --> 00:00:57,230 through all of the highs and lows, 25 00:00:57,231 --> 00:00:58,754 and what's developed recently 26 00:00:58,884 --> 00:01:01,322 was the last thing either of us expected. 27 00:01:01,452 --> 00:01:03,019 Our connection grew out of a genuine 28 00:01:03,106 --> 00:01:04,673 long-standing friendship, 29 00:01:04,803 --> 00:01:06,587 which made it especially important for us 30 00:01:06,588 --> 00:01:08,372 to approach this with care." 31 00:01:11,419 --> 00:01:14,509 None of this makes sense. It's all not what happened. 32 00:01:19,209 --> 00:01:20,341 Hey. 33 00:01:21,733 --> 00:01:22,865 - Oh, you're on speaker. - Hi. 34 00:01:28,349 --> 00:01:29,480 Hold on. Let me-- Let me add Mia in. 35 00:01:29,654 --> 00:01:31,047 Hold on. 36 00:01:31,221 --> 00:01:33,180 - Hi. - Oh, wait, where did Jesse go? 37 00:01:33,310 --> 00:01:34,876 Oh, Jesse's here. Okay. 38 00:01:34,877 --> 00:01:36,313 I'm here with Kyle. 39 00:01:36,444 --> 00:01:37,793 Mia, thank you for-- 40 00:01:37,923 --> 00:01:39,795 Thank you for texting. I-I meant to respond. 41 00:01:47,716 --> 00:01:48,673 I did-- 42 00:01:48,847 --> 00:01:50,284 I did talk to Amanda last night, 43 00:01:50,371 --> 00:01:52,024 and West texted me an hour ago, 44 00:01:52,199 --> 00:01:55,898 which was clearly a check the box text. 45 00:01:56,072 --> 00:01:58,118 When I say-- 46 00:02:00,729 --> 00:02:02,905 I consider myself pretty close to West. 47 00:02:02,992 --> 00:02:04,079 I was literally at his parents' house 48 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:04,994 and his dad's ranch. 49 00:02:05,168 --> 00:02:06,343 Yeah. 50 00:02:06,517 --> 00:02:09,259 Like, we-we went to Toronto together. Like-- 51 00:02:10,565 --> 00:02:11,653 Carl's calling. 52 00:02:11,783 --> 00:02:12,610 Yeah, Carl. Well, here, we'll get Carl. 53 00:02:12,741 --> 00:02:13,916 Oh, patch him in. 54 00:02:14,046 --> 00:02:15,091 Here, you can probably hear. 55 00:02:15,178 --> 00:02:16,484 Here, we'll put the phones together. 56 00:02:16,658 --> 00:02:17,659 - Hey. - Hey, Kyle. 57 00:02:21,489 --> 00:02:23,317 I mean, nothing can kinda prepare you for this. 58 00:02:25,536 --> 00:02:26,624 You were pickin' up on just, like, 59 00:02:26,755 --> 00:02:28,365 inappropriateness, like, how touchy 60 00:02:28,496 --> 00:02:29,584 and handsy he's been. 61 00:02:31,107 --> 00:02:31,977 No, as someone's-- 62 00:02:42,379 --> 00:02:44,164 I think she is hurtin'. 63 00:03:04,140 --> 00:03:07,535 Now, it's, like, when did this start? 64 00:03:09,667 --> 00:03:11,147 Amanda tried to play it off last night 65 00:03:11,321 --> 00:03:12,844 like it's only been happening for a month. 66 00:03:18,285 --> 00:03:19,373 I will say, there were blinds 67 00:03:19,460 --> 00:03:22,071 going back to June 2025. 68 00:03:25,857 --> 00:03:28,164 I don't know what Amanda and West can say 69 00:03:28,295 --> 00:03:31,733 to, like, recover. 70 00:03:52,667 --> 00:03:54,190 Thank you. 71 00:03:54,364 --> 00:03:55,235 Thank you. 72 00:03:58,368 --> 00:04:00,109 Thank you. 73 00:04:04,026 --> 00:04:05,984 Thank you. 74 00:04:06,115 --> 00:04:08,117 Is everyone in here today? 75 00:04:08,291 --> 00:04:09,553 No, I think West and Amanda are-- 76 00:04:09,727 --> 00:04:11,338 I saw their names on that dressing room, right there. 77 00:04:11,512 --> 00:04:12,339 Oh. 78 00:04:13,688 --> 00:04:14,906 That's an adjustment for me. 79 00:04:17,300 --> 00:04:19,346 I've been on this for ten years, from the beginning. 80 00:04:19,563 --> 00:04:21,130 What's been going on the last month and half 81 00:04:21,261 --> 00:04:22,349 and two months 82 00:04:22,523 --> 00:04:25,917 is unlike anything we've ever experienced. 83 00:04:26,091 --> 00:04:27,397 The last two weeks even, 84 00:04:27,528 --> 00:04:28,703 the baseball game and that sh--, 85 00:04:28,833 --> 00:04:30,487 is just so----ing weird. 86 00:04:30,574 --> 00:04:32,446 The same day, Ciara's cover came out. 87 00:04:32,620 --> 00:04:35,883 Embarrassing. He's so----ed up. 88 00:04:35,884 --> 00:04:37,407 I was supposed to go to that game with West. 89 00:04:37,581 --> 00:04:38,321 You were? 90 00:04:38,539 --> 00:04:39,888 Yeah, it was a Kansas City game. 91 00:04:40,062 --> 00:04:41,629 Why didn't you end up going to the game? 92 00:04:41,846 --> 00:04:43,152 We're not friends anymore. 93 00:04:45,328 --> 00:04:47,287 It hurts. I considered him a brother. 94 00:04:50,768 --> 00:04:51,813 Oh! 95 00:04:53,728 --> 00:04:54,946 Never been in this room before. 96 00:04:55,164 --> 00:04:56,165 How are you? 97 00:04:56,296 --> 00:04:58,341 Yeah, you're normally with the boys. Hi. 98 00:04:58,472 --> 00:04:59,864 - Are we across from them? - Yeah. 99 00:05:00,038 --> 00:05:01,953 Sweet. 100 00:05:03,868 --> 00:05:05,653 All right. What's up? - Nothing. 101 00:05:05,827 --> 00:05:06,828 I just don't know if I can't breathe 102 00:05:06,958 --> 00:05:08,046 'cause I'm, like, anxious 103 00:05:08,220 --> 00:05:09,744 or 'cause my corset is so tight. 104 00:05:09,874 --> 00:05:11,006 Probably both. 105 00:05:14,618 --> 00:05:15,576 Thank you, sir. 106 00:05:23,148 --> 00:05:24,497 - You okay? - Yeah, I'm good. 107 00:05:24,498 --> 00:05:28,328 I actually-- I-I feel... Zen. 108 00:05:30,242 --> 00:05:31,809 I'm happy that Ciara's gonna get a moment 109 00:05:31,940 --> 00:05:33,768 to, like, really speak her peace, 110 00:05:33,855 --> 00:05:34,986 and I'm-I'm just-- - Oh, I think we're gonna 111 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:36,336 have a lot of moments. 112 00:05:38,076 --> 00:05:40,078 How are you? 113 00:05:40,165 --> 00:05:41,819 - I've had better days. - Yeah. 114 00:05:41,950 --> 00:05:43,517 How are you feeling? 115 00:05:43,604 --> 00:05:45,301 Um... 116 00:05:55,572 --> 00:05:59,140 Who do you feel more betrayed by? 117 00:05:59,141 --> 00:06:02,797 - Amanda. - Yeah. 118 00:06:02,927 --> 00:06:08,411 Like, I mean, I'm shocked by West, 119 00:06:08,542 --> 00:06:12,633 but I'm also really hurt by Amanda. 120 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,767 Is there a question that you really-- 121 00:06:16,941 --> 00:06:18,029 - I mean-- - Like, is there-- 122 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:19,814 Is there one thing that's the most 123 00:06:19,944 --> 00:06:22,556 kind of glaring to you? 124 00:06:22,686 --> 00:06:26,995 Um, well, I really-- it's really just, like, why. 125 00:06:27,082 --> 00:06:30,564 Right, right. 126 00:06:30,694 --> 00:06:31,739 Why? 127 00:06:53,413 --> 00:06:55,850 How do you think this is gonna go? 128 00:06:56,024 --> 00:06:57,852 There's nothing new that can be told today. 129 00:06:57,939 --> 00:06:58,808 Like, the truth is already out there. 130 00:06:58,809 --> 00:07:00,985 - So... - Yeah, it's just gonna be, 131 00:07:01,072 --> 00:07:04,728 like, shutting down the rumors. 132 00:07:04,859 --> 00:07:06,774 How are you feeling about seeing Ciara tonight? 133 00:07:09,341 --> 00:07:10,386 I mean, there's a lot of guilt. 134 00:07:10,604 --> 00:07:13,084 Like, that's my friend, and I-- it kills me 135 00:07:13,258 --> 00:07:15,739 that, like, I'm the one that caused her any pain. 136 00:07:17,828 --> 00:07:18,699 By the way, I sent you a text. 137 00:07:18,829 --> 00:07:20,221 - Hmm? - I saw you starting to type, 138 00:07:20,222 --> 00:07:21,352 and then you didn't. 139 00:07:21,353 --> 00:07:22,920 'Cause I finished the last episode, 140 00:07:23,094 --> 00:07:24,705 and I, like, was, like-- 141 00:07:24,792 --> 00:07:25,706 - It was a lot. - It was-- it was a lot. 142 00:07:25,836 --> 00:07:27,969 I will say, those last two episodes, 143 00:07:28,099 --> 00:07:29,753 uh, that was, like, the toughest reunion prep 144 00:07:29,884 --> 00:07:31,407 I've ever gone through. - Yeah. 145 00:07:31,538 --> 00:07:32,494 I don't think that people understood. 146 00:07:32,495 --> 00:07:34,279 I was like, yo, I am bottoming out. 147 00:07:34,454 --> 00:07:36,281 Like-like-- - Yeah, we could see. 148 00:07:36,412 --> 00:07:37,413 Yeah. Can I say sorry 149 00:07:37,544 --> 00:07:39,154 'cause I-I don't even think I realized 150 00:07:39,241 --> 00:07:40,721 how much you were bottoming out? 151 00:07:40,851 --> 00:07:43,811 Oh... - Give me a hug. 152 00:07:43,941 --> 00:07:45,682 I was-- I, again, I just felt misunderstood 153 00:07:45,813 --> 00:07:47,031 the whole summer. Don't cry. 154 00:07:47,205 --> 00:07:48,772 But, no, I know, and I'm sorry 155 00:07:48,990 --> 00:07:50,078 'cause I feel like 156 00:07:50,165 --> 00:07:53,168 I really misunderstood you this summer. 157 00:07:53,298 --> 00:07:55,431 Don't cry. It's okay. We got all day. 158 00:07:55,562 --> 00:07:59,217 I love you. We're gonna do great. 159 00:07:59,348 --> 00:08:01,306 Mm-hmm. We're not gonna get mad. 160 00:08:01,393 --> 00:08:02,656 We're not gonna storm off. 161 00:08:02,786 --> 00:08:04,832 No storming. I'm not gonna touch alcohol. 162 00:08:05,006 --> 00:08:07,530 I'm not gonna-- I'm not gonna cry. 163 00:08:07,661 --> 00:08:08,400 Well, pfft. 164 00:08:08,618 --> 00:08:10,707 Well... 165 00:08:10,881 --> 00:08:15,582 Well, you two seem very calm. 166 00:08:15,712 --> 00:08:16,887 Yeah, there's no other way to be. 167 00:08:17,061 --> 00:08:18,280 We're trying to be. Yeah. 168 00:08:18,454 --> 00:08:19,368 Okay, I'll see you guys in a minute. Okay. 169 00:08:19,455 --> 00:08:20,674 - All right. Bye, Andy. - Okay. 170 00:08:24,025 --> 00:08:26,680 - Not bad. - That's nothin'. 171 00:08:39,910 --> 00:08:41,433 - This one? - How's it going, Bailey? 172 00:08:41,564 --> 00:08:42,565 Good. 173 00:08:42,696 --> 00:08:45,176 - Hey, Andy. - Carl, my Carl. 174 00:08:45,307 --> 00:08:46,874 I'm gonna give you a hug. You look so----in' hot. 175 00:08:46,961 --> 00:08:47,744 Oh, my God, thank you! 176 00:08:47,831 --> 00:08:49,398 - You look great. - Thank you. 177 00:08:49,572 --> 00:08:50,530 Fly is up. That's a good-- 178 00:08:50,660 --> 00:08:52,227 That's a good thing. 179 00:08:52,357 --> 00:08:54,359 I've gotta sit over here, it looks like next to West. 180 00:08:54,534 --> 00:08:56,274 Aren't you glad to be sitting there and not here? 181 00:08:56,448 --> 00:08:57,188 Yes. 182 00:08:57,319 --> 00:08:58,494 Let me get the vibes here. 183 00:08:58,668 --> 00:08:59,887 Our backyard. 184 00:09:00,017 --> 00:09:02,150 It's always, like, incredibly detailed. 185 00:09:02,324 --> 00:09:03,325 Hey, Ben. 186 00:09:03,412 --> 00:09:04,500 - Andy, how are you, mate? - Hey, mate. 187 00:09:04,631 --> 00:09:05,283 - How are you doing, mate? - What's up, mate? 188 00:09:05,414 --> 00:09:06,109 - Looking fresh. - Yeah, yeah. 189 00:09:06,110 --> 00:09:07,458 - What a nice suit. - Hello. 190 00:09:07,459 --> 00:09:09,287 - How ya doin'? - Good. How are you? 191 00:09:09,374 --> 00:09:10,941 - You look great. - Thank you. 192 00:09:11,072 --> 00:09:13,248 ♪ What a day What a day ♪ 193 00:09:13,378 --> 00:09:15,380 - Wow! - Good Lord. 194 00:09:15,555 --> 00:09:17,078 Why are you in a revenge dress? 195 00:09:17,252 --> 00:09:18,253 Yeah. 196 00:09:18,340 --> 00:09:19,297 Well, I had to make up for Kyle. 197 00:09:19,471 --> 00:09:20,472 Oh. 198 00:09:20,603 --> 00:09:21,386 Yeah, I can't wear the revenge dress 199 00:09:21,517 --> 00:09:22,517 that people photoshopped me in. 200 00:09:22,518 --> 00:09:24,259 So... 201 00:09:24,433 --> 00:09:25,042 Kyle, you look-- you looked good in it. I'm not gonna lie. 202 00:09:25,129 --> 00:09:26,696 The best part is, I had the mullet. 203 00:09:26,827 --> 00:09:28,176 That was really funny. 204 00:09:28,306 --> 00:09:29,656 Oh, my goodness, look at this girl. 205 00:09:29,830 --> 00:09:31,440 Yes! 206 00:09:31,614 --> 00:09:33,355 - Thank you, guys. - Get over here. 207 00:09:33,573 --> 00:09:35,183 Are you-- are you next to me? - I love it. 208 00:09:35,313 --> 00:09:36,837 The calm before the storm. 209 00:09:37,011 --> 00:09:38,186 Yeah, literally. 210 00:09:40,971 --> 00:09:42,756 - Watch your step. - Yeah, thank you. 211 00:09:44,758 --> 00:09:46,673 - Hi. - Hi, Andy. 212 00:09:46,847 --> 00:09:49,545 - You look beautiful. - Thank you so much. 213 00:09:49,676 --> 00:09:51,199 - Have a seat. - Hello, hello. 214 00:09:53,201 --> 00:09:55,507 Okay. 215 00:09:55,725 --> 00:09:57,858 Well... 216 00:09:57,988 --> 00:09:59,076 I like the butter yellow. 217 00:09:59,207 --> 00:10:00,469 Thank you so much. 218 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,732 You guys look beautiful. - So do you. 219 00:10:02,863 --> 00:10:03,777 - You look pretty. - Thank you. 220 00:10:13,700 --> 00:10:15,136 - Hi, Westling. - Hello, Andrew. 221 00:10:15,310 --> 00:10:16,441 How are you? - I'm good. 222 00:10:16,572 --> 00:10:18,661 How are you? 223 00:10:22,926 --> 00:10:24,536 All rise. 224 00:10:24,711 --> 00:10:27,365 Wow! 225 00:10:27,539 --> 00:10:28,410 Okay. 226 00:10:28,584 --> 00:10:30,281 - Hi. - Hi. 227 00:10:30,412 --> 00:10:32,327 Oh, my God, Jessica Rabbit. 228 00:10:32,457 --> 00:10:33,894 - I said Jessica Rabbit, too. - Holy sh--. 229 00:10:34,024 --> 00:10:38,550 I feel like Jabba the Hut, and you're Princess Leia. 230 00:10:38,681 --> 00:10:40,465 - Looking beautiful. - Thanks. 231 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,424 I like the suit. I like this casual. 232 00:10:42,554 --> 00:10:44,339 We have two minutes, everyone. 233 00:10:45,993 --> 00:10:47,516 I love you too. 234 00:10:49,344 --> 00:10:50,345 Hi, Ben. 235 00:10:53,217 --> 00:10:54,828 How you doing? 236 00:10:54,958 --> 00:10:56,699 I just got a text that someone hacked my phone, 237 00:10:56,830 --> 00:10:58,745 and there's nudes of me, 238 00:10:58,875 --> 00:11:01,138 uh, being sent around Missouri. 239 00:11:01,269 --> 00:11:05,055 So, it's a good text to get right before this. 240 00:11:05,186 --> 00:11:06,753 Wow, when it rains, it pours. 241 00:11:06,927 --> 00:11:07,797 We already heard about it this morning. 242 00:11:07,971 --> 00:11:09,973 Wait, really? 243 00:11:10,104 --> 00:11:11,453 Huh. 244 00:11:11,583 --> 00:11:14,021 It's so weird. I've never gotten any. 245 00:11:14,151 --> 00:11:15,413 I've got the nude. 246 00:11:15,544 --> 00:11:16,763 Is it one? 247 00:11:16,850 --> 00:11:17,851 Three. 248 00:11:17,981 --> 00:11:19,591 Am I hard? 249 00:11:19,809 --> 00:11:21,289 No? Soft? 250 00:11:21,419 --> 00:11:22,899 - Flaccid. - Very soft, 251 00:11:23,030 --> 00:11:24,205 flaccid, not soft but... 252 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:30,994 It's me. 253 00:11:33,605 --> 00:11:36,739 It curves left. It's me. 254 00:11:36,870 --> 00:11:38,045 Ten seconds! 255 00:11:42,266 --> 00:11:46,053 Andy-- all eyes on Andy in five, four, three... 256 00:11:48,751 --> 00:11:50,057 Hey, everybody, 257 00:11:50,187 --> 00:11:53,625 welcome to the "Summer House" Season 10 Reunion. 258 00:11:53,756 --> 00:11:55,497 I'm your host, Andy Cohen. 259 00:11:55,627 --> 00:11:58,805 Now, this summer, we saw new friendships form 260 00:11:58,935 --> 00:12:03,418 and long-term relationships fall apart in real time. 261 00:12:03,548 --> 00:12:06,160 And while some endings were crystal clear, 262 00:12:06,290 --> 00:12:08,640 one jaw-dropping new beginning 263 00:12:08,771 --> 00:12:12,601 has left the housemates and the entire Bravosphere 264 00:12:12,732 --> 00:12:14,429 with a lot of questions. 265 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,301 First, I wanna say hi to the housemates, 266 00:12:17,432 --> 00:12:19,042 and I wanna start with you. Hi, Ciara. 267 00:12:19,173 --> 00:12:20,130 Hi, Andy. 268 00:12:20,217 --> 00:12:22,176 As a shock to no one on Earth, 269 00:12:22,306 --> 00:12:24,004 you look incredible. - Thanks. 270 00:12:24,178 --> 00:12:27,181 You've gotten a wave of love and support 271 00:12:27,268 --> 00:12:30,445 from the Bravoverse. What has that been like? 272 00:12:30,619 --> 00:12:32,055 Insane. 273 00:12:32,229 --> 00:12:34,405 A lot more than I think I would have ever expected. 274 00:12:34,536 --> 00:12:36,407 - Hey, Kyle. - Hey, Andy. 275 00:12:36,538 --> 00:12:38,975 I gotta admit, a few months ago, 276 00:12:39,106 --> 00:12:41,369 I really thought that you were gonna have 277 00:12:41,499 --> 00:12:42,849 the most to answer to tonight. 278 00:12:43,023 --> 00:12:45,373 I thought you were gonna maybe be the villain 279 00:12:45,503 --> 00:12:46,548 of the season. 280 00:12:46,678 --> 00:12:48,376 I have to think maybe you did, too. 281 00:12:48,463 --> 00:12:49,812 I was ready. I was ready. 282 00:12:49,943 --> 00:12:51,422 How does it feel not to be the biggest problem 283 00:12:51,553 --> 00:12:54,164 in the room? 284 00:12:54,295 --> 00:12:57,733 Weird-- it's very, uh, bittersweet to be 285 00:12:57,820 --> 00:12:59,648 kind of in the hotseat then off the hotseat 286 00:12:59,779 --> 00:13:03,260 and just in this weird... whatever you call this. 287 00:13:03,391 --> 00:13:04,740 I've never even been on this side of the room. 288 00:13:04,871 --> 00:13:06,611 Well, that brings me to Amanda. 289 00:13:06,829 --> 00:13:08,309 Hey, Amanda. - Hi, Andy. 290 00:13:08,439 --> 00:13:10,485 How are you feeling tonight? 291 00:13:10,615 --> 00:13:13,488 I mean, I'm-I'm prepared to, you know, 292 00:13:13,618 --> 00:13:15,446 to own up to what I've done, 293 00:13:15,577 --> 00:13:17,535 take accountability, apologize, 294 00:13:17,709 --> 00:13:19,711 uh, especially to Ciara and Kyle, 295 00:13:19,886 --> 00:13:23,193 and just, hopefully, be able to explain 296 00:13:23,367 --> 00:13:25,195 to everyone's face, you know, 297 00:13:25,326 --> 00:13:27,415 what went on and where I'm coming from. 298 00:13:27,545 --> 00:13:28,764 I'm glad she could say our name, right? 299 00:13:32,159 --> 00:13:33,334 What? 300 00:13:33,464 --> 00:13:34,988 I'm glad you could say our name this time. 301 00:13:45,781 --> 00:13:47,478 How are you feeling tonight? 302 00:13:47,609 --> 00:13:49,872 I'm prepared to take accountability, 303 00:13:50,003 --> 00:13:52,744 apologize, especially to Ciara and Kyle. 304 00:13:52,875 --> 00:13:54,094 I'm glad she could say our name, right? 305 00:13:56,792 --> 00:13:57,924 What? 306 00:13:58,098 --> 00:13:59,577 I'm glad you could say our name this time. 307 00:14:05,801 --> 00:14:06,715 Hey, West. 308 00:14:06,846 --> 00:14:07,934 Hello, Andy. 309 00:14:08,108 --> 00:14:10,197 Um, I gotta ask. 310 00:14:10,327 --> 00:14:15,028 I mean, two years ago, your first reunion, 311 00:14:15,158 --> 00:14:18,596 um, you kinda sh-- the bed a little bit. 312 00:14:18,727 --> 00:14:21,382 - For sure, for sure. - Kinda. 313 00:14:21,512 --> 00:14:24,515 How is-how is tonight gonna be different? 314 00:14:24,646 --> 00:14:26,996 Um... 315 00:14:27,127 --> 00:14:28,650 I think there's a lot to be explained 316 00:14:28,824 --> 00:14:30,826 and things to share that will, hopefully, 317 00:14:30,913 --> 00:14:33,524 clear up a lot of the, like, wildfire 318 00:14:33,655 --> 00:14:36,049 of what this became. 319 00:14:36,266 --> 00:14:37,789 - Hi, Carl. - Hey, Andy. 320 00:14:37,964 --> 00:14:40,880 Can you confirm or deny that you are a mess? 321 00:14:42,794 --> 00:14:44,666 - I-I'm a mess. - You're a mess. 322 00:14:44,796 --> 00:14:46,668 - I'm a mess. - Why are you a mess? 323 00:14:46,755 --> 00:14:48,278 It's just been hard to kind of reconcile 324 00:14:48,452 --> 00:14:49,758 what we're watching and what... 325 00:14:49,932 --> 00:14:51,455 kind of feels like was going on. 326 00:14:51,586 --> 00:14:53,893 Um, I feel like our group-- we should hold ourselves 327 00:14:54,067 --> 00:14:55,198 to a higher standard here, 328 00:14:55,329 --> 00:14:57,287 and we owe that to each other, 329 00:14:57,461 --> 00:14:58,985 and we owe that to our audience 330 00:14:59,159 --> 00:15:01,378 to, like, be----ing real, tell the truth, 331 00:15:01,509 --> 00:15:03,685 take accountability. 332 00:15:03,815 --> 00:15:07,123 I just, yeah, I'm nervous and anxious. 333 00:15:07,254 --> 00:15:09,082 - Hey, Jesse. - Hey, Andy. 334 00:15:09,299 --> 00:15:12,346 - How ya doin'? - Good. 335 00:15:12,476 --> 00:15:14,914 I was very sad on the way over here. 336 00:15:15,088 --> 00:15:15,958 - Why? - I don't know. 337 00:15:16,089 --> 00:15:17,481 It just kinda hit me. 338 00:15:17,612 --> 00:15:20,876 I feel like, uh, the friend group is-is fractured, 339 00:15:21,094 --> 00:15:22,182 and it's just sad, 340 00:15:22,356 --> 00:15:23,618 and I-I hope we're not just, like, mourning 341 00:15:23,748 --> 00:15:25,315 the loss of what we had, 342 00:15:25,446 --> 00:15:27,883 and I'm hoping that we can find some common ground 343 00:15:28,014 --> 00:15:31,365 and move forward the best way we can. 344 00:15:31,495 --> 00:15:33,106 Let's welcome the newbies. 345 00:15:33,323 --> 00:15:35,151 Hi, Bailey. - Hi, Andy. 346 00:15:35,325 --> 00:15:37,937 Don't worry, no Sweetgreen breakups today. 347 00:15:38,111 --> 00:15:39,808 You're safe on this couch. 348 00:15:39,895 --> 00:15:41,288 I'm not gonna get dumped here. 349 00:15:41,418 --> 00:15:44,291 - No, you're definitely not. - Fabulous. 350 00:15:44,421 --> 00:15:46,075 - Hi, Mia. - Hi. 351 00:15:46,206 --> 00:15:48,730 - You look gorgeous. - Thank you. 352 00:15:48,904 --> 00:15:50,601 You told me on "Watch What Happens Live" 353 00:15:50,732 --> 00:15:52,908 that you met Rihanna. - Mm-hmm. 354 00:15:53,126 --> 00:15:56,390 What advice would Rihanna give you today? 355 00:15:56,564 --> 00:15:57,782 Well, I'll tell you what she told me when I met her. 356 00:15:57,913 --> 00:15:58,827 - Okay. - Damn. 357 00:15:59,045 --> 00:16:01,917 She said, "You're a bad bitch." 358 00:16:02,048 --> 00:16:03,223 And she would've said that tonight, too. 359 00:16:03,353 --> 00:16:05,268 - That's what's up. - All right, yes. 360 00:16:05,442 --> 00:16:06,966 Hey, KJ. - Hey. 361 00:16:07,183 --> 00:16:11,057 - How are you? - I'm sad. 362 00:16:11,187 --> 00:16:14,147 This is family, and, obviously, family has issues, 363 00:16:14,277 --> 00:16:16,497 but I just feel like 364 00:16:16,627 --> 00:16:20,327 there was a lot of, um, fraudulent activity. 365 00:16:23,243 --> 00:16:24,418 - Hi, Ben. - Andy. 366 00:16:24,635 --> 00:16:26,376 - Great to see you. - Good to see you, too. 367 00:16:26,463 --> 00:16:27,943 How is the missus? 368 00:16:28,074 --> 00:16:29,162 Ten out of ten, thank you for asking. 369 00:16:31,729 --> 00:16:33,296 All right, well, obviously, we need 370 00:16:33,427 --> 00:16:36,865 to start by addressing the elephant in the room. 371 00:16:36,996 --> 00:16:39,389 In February of this year, Amanda and West 372 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,436 were spotted holding hands at an event, 373 00:16:42,523 --> 00:16:44,873 igniting what, at first, felt like 374 00:16:45,091 --> 00:16:48,355 outlandish Internet conspiracies. 375 00:16:48,485 --> 00:16:50,618 And when I asked West about those rumors 376 00:16:50,705 --> 00:16:52,315 on "Watch What Happens Live," 377 00:16:52,446 --> 00:16:55,971 his tepid denials only fueled speculation. 378 00:16:56,058 --> 00:16:58,017 What was your reaction to the rumors 379 00:16:58,104 --> 00:16:58,930 of you and Amanda? 380 00:16:59,061 --> 00:17:00,019 I just gotta show her the streets 381 00:17:00,193 --> 00:17:01,716 a little bit, you know. 382 00:17:01,846 --> 00:17:03,065 If it's not clear, that's a very important person to me, 383 00:17:03,283 --> 00:17:07,504 and I, like, care about her a lot. 384 00:17:07,635 --> 00:17:11,291 Finally, on March 31st, just three weeks ago, 385 00:17:11,465 --> 00:17:13,771 West and Amanda released a joint statement 386 00:17:13,902 --> 00:17:15,991 confirming their romance. 387 00:17:16,122 --> 00:17:18,428 This led to an avalanche of questions, 388 00:17:18,602 --> 00:17:22,519 like, where does this leave Ciara and Kyle? 389 00:17:22,650 --> 00:17:26,088 So, Ciara, when and why did you first suspect 390 00:17:26,219 --> 00:17:27,524 that something was going on 391 00:17:27,698 --> 00:17:29,439 between West and Amanda? 392 00:17:29,613 --> 00:17:31,746 First day would be January 17th 393 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,314 because I, like, went to call Amanda 394 00:17:34,488 --> 00:17:36,011 to invite her out to drinks with me and Mia, 395 00:17:36,142 --> 00:17:38,535 and her location was at West's house. 396 00:17:38,666 --> 00:17:42,278 And so, I-I had called, and she didn't answer, 397 00:17:42,409 --> 00:17:44,585 and then texted and didn't answer. 398 00:17:44,802 --> 00:17:46,326 I answered in 30 minutes. 399 00:17:46,500 --> 00:17:49,111 You did, after Mia put us in a group chat 400 00:17:49,285 --> 00:17:50,939 to see if you would respond. 401 00:17:51,070 --> 00:17:52,680 But, like, when I initially called you, 402 00:17:52,810 --> 00:17:53,811 you didn't answer. 403 00:17:54,029 --> 00:17:55,378 So, I was like, hmm, that's so weird. 404 00:17:55,509 --> 00:17:56,379 Like, why would she be at West's? 405 00:17:56,510 --> 00:17:57,946 - Okay, well, I was at-- - I'm speaking. 406 00:17:58,077 --> 00:17:59,687 So, I was like, hmm, that's weird. 407 00:17:59,817 --> 00:18:01,167 Why would she be at West's house? 408 00:18:01,341 --> 00:18:03,560 Because West was there for me all summer 409 00:18:03,691 --> 00:18:05,475 and was checking in. - And where was I? 410 00:18:05,562 --> 00:18:06,781 - Also there for-- - Where was I? 411 00:18:06,955 --> 00:18:07,912 - Also there for me. - Where was I? 412 00:18:07,999 --> 00:18:09,305 But when he asked me to get a drink-- 413 00:18:09,479 --> 00:18:10,872 No, say it, again. Where was I? 414 00:18:11,002 --> 00:18:12,439 You were also there for me, 415 00:18:12,569 --> 00:18:14,484 and I'm not discrediting that. - Yeah, and how many times 416 00:18:14,615 --> 00:18:16,138 have I asked you to hang out, 417 00:18:16,269 --> 00:18:17,139 and you have either blown me off-- 418 00:18:17,226 --> 00:18:18,532 I hung out with West twice in-- 419 00:18:18,662 --> 00:18:21,317 Shut the up. How many times 420 00:18:21,448 --> 00:18:23,145 have I asked you to hang out, 421 00:18:23,276 --> 00:18:24,581 have I asked to come over to your house, 422 00:18:24,712 --> 00:18:26,279 have I invited you to do stuff, 423 00:18:26,409 --> 00:18:29,151 and you act like your----in' phone doesn't work? 424 00:18:29,238 --> 00:18:31,066 I find it interesting that you're prioritizing 425 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:32,589 your friendship with West-- 426 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,852 - Not-- was not. - Over prioritizing your friendship-- 427 00:18:34,939 --> 00:18:36,550 - But you were. - But then why weren't you responding to her? 428 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,074 Oh, my God, guess what. I had an awakening. 429 00:18:39,205 --> 00:18:41,729 I was living on my own. I separated from my ex. 430 00:18:41,859 --> 00:18:43,339 And I was trying to prioritize myself. 431 00:18:43,470 --> 00:18:44,601 Yeah, and then you hang out with mine. You go out. 432 00:18:44,732 --> 00:18:46,255 You guys are going to the bars, like, getting----ed up. 433 00:18:46,386 --> 00:18:48,388 Also, you're breadcrumbing everyone on Instagram. 434 00:18:48,518 --> 00:18:50,738 - Oof, that was tough. - I'm-I'm also hanging out with other people. 435 00:18:50,868 --> 00:18:52,131 I was not just hanging out with West. 436 00:18:52,348 --> 00:18:53,566 - Okay. - Didn't-- so-- 437 00:18:53,567 --> 00:18:54,350 I was hanging out with plenty of other friends 438 00:18:54,481 --> 00:18:55,221 where he was not present at all. 439 00:18:55,351 --> 00:18:56,961 - Who? Who? Who? - Okay, okay. 440 00:18:57,092 --> 00:18:58,398 You don't think I have other friends? 441 00:18:58,528 --> 00:19:00,617 - No, Katie DeLuca. - I mean, besides Katie DeLuca. 442 00:19:00,835 --> 00:19:01,966 A lot of the friends you've been hanging out recently 443 00:19:02,141 --> 00:19:04,273 literally-- - Are West's friends. 444 00:19:04,404 --> 00:19:05,405 - Exactly, I-- - That you guys have seen on the Internet! 445 00:19:05,535 --> 00:19:07,015 Amanda, you're-you're-- 446 00:19:07,146 --> 00:19:08,886 I don't post every----ing time I go out somewhere. 447 00:19:09,017 --> 00:19:10,018 - But your best-- - You were. 448 00:19:10,149 --> 00:19:11,019 Some of your best friends you aren't even, 449 00:19:11,150 --> 00:19:12,325 like, seeing anymore. - You were, though. 450 00:19:12,412 --> 00:19:13,021 She was-she was posting non-stop about going out. 451 00:19:13,108 --> 00:19:14,283 I was going to dinners and drinks 452 00:19:14,414 --> 00:19:16,155 and going out and doing things. 453 00:19:16,285 --> 00:19:16,894 I was saying yes to everything. - I mean, she was hanging out 454 00:19:16,981 --> 00:19:20,420 with another Katie, who is-- 455 00:19:20,550 --> 00:19:22,552 - Friends with West. - No, not friends with West. 456 00:19:22,683 --> 00:19:24,989 off. 457 00:19:25,076 --> 00:19:26,426 - Um-- - Shut the up, Amanda. 458 00:19:26,513 --> 00:19:28,471 You don't wanna cross this----ing bridge with me. 459 00:19:28,558 --> 00:19:30,081 You really don't. 460 00:19:30,212 --> 00:19:32,258 I don't see your man sticking up for you now, huh? 461 00:19:35,261 --> 00:19:36,784 - Jesse, you said on "Watch What Happens Live"... - I'm sorry. 462 00:19:36,871 --> 00:19:38,916 ...you found out when the rest of the world did. 463 00:19:39,047 --> 00:19:41,223 Viewers want to equate you with 464 00:19:41,354 --> 00:19:43,834 Tom Schwartz in this situation, 465 00:19:43,921 --> 00:19:46,185 that you knew more than you let on. 466 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:47,882 What's your response to that? 467 00:19:48,056 --> 00:19:49,231 Jesse didn't know anything. 468 00:19:49,405 --> 00:19:51,581 Yeah, I-I spoke with Amanda. 469 00:19:51,668 --> 00:19:53,104 I sat down with her for drinks, 470 00:19:53,192 --> 00:19:56,020 and she told me that it just wasn't true. 471 00:19:56,151 --> 00:19:58,806 West-- I don't know-- I would text him, asking, 472 00:19:58,936 --> 00:20:00,895 and he would tell me that it wasn't true. 473 00:20:01,069 --> 00:20:02,592 - Wow. - The-the lying part, 474 00:20:02,723 --> 00:20:05,029 I-I will not sit here and act like I didn't do it. 475 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,250 I, 100% lied to people here, 476 00:20:08,381 --> 00:20:10,774 and I take full accountability for that. 477 00:20:10,905 --> 00:20:11,732 - Thank you. - Not cool to do, in general, 478 00:20:11,862 --> 00:20:13,516 and not cool to do to your friends. 479 00:20:13,647 --> 00:20:15,518 No matter the case, lying to people you care about 480 00:20:15,605 --> 00:20:16,737 is not okay. 481 00:20:16,867 --> 00:20:18,173 But I think you-- the problem is, now, 482 00:20:18,347 --> 00:20:19,435 is that I feel like you lie about your life. 483 00:20:19,522 --> 00:20:21,132 Like, you like about who you are. 484 00:20:21,220 --> 00:20:22,699 I think you're the most fraudulent person 485 00:20:22,873 --> 00:20:24,092 sitting on this couch. 486 00:20:24,223 --> 00:20:25,311 We've been here three years now. 487 00:20:25,485 --> 00:20:27,226 I don't think anybody really, truly knows 488 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:28,531 who you are. - Why do you say that? 489 00:20:28,662 --> 00:20:30,403 - You live a different - ing life off camera 490 00:20:30,490 --> 00:20:31,969 than you do on camera. 491 00:20:32,143 --> 00:20:33,362 We don't know what you're doing. 492 00:20:33,493 --> 00:20:35,451 And probably the reason why it was so confusing, 493 00:20:35,625 --> 00:20:36,931 is because you had a girlfriend. 494 00:20:40,978 --> 00:20:43,024 Meija? 495 00:20:51,250 --> 00:20:53,077 I think you're the most fraudulent person 496 00:20:53,164 --> 00:20:54,296 sitting on this couch. 497 00:20:54,470 --> 00:20:56,429 You live a different - ing life off camera 498 00:20:56,603 --> 00:20:58,082 than you do on camera. 499 00:20:58,169 --> 00:21:00,476 And probably the reason why it was so confusing, 500 00:21:00,650 --> 00:21:03,000 is because you had a girlfriend. 501 00:21:03,174 --> 00:21:04,306 Meija? 502 00:21:09,833 --> 00:21:11,661 Uh, not a girlfriend, but I was seeing someone. 503 00:21:11,792 --> 00:21:13,533 - Probably a girlfriend. - Uh... 504 00:21:13,620 --> 00:21:15,404 She says that you guys were exclusive. 505 00:21:15,535 --> 00:21:17,624 - We weren't. - And, in fact, she spent the night with you 506 00:21:17,754 --> 00:21:18,494 the night before your "Watch What Happens Live". 507 00:21:18,668 --> 00:21:19,930 Your "Watch What Happens Live". 508 00:21:20,061 --> 00:21:21,280 - On what, March 24th? - And she made you your tie. 509 00:21:21,410 --> 00:21:22,759 Weird. - Correct. 510 00:21:22,846 --> 00:21:24,848 Sorry, correction, March 24th, not March 21st. 511 00:21:24,979 --> 00:21:26,502 She did spend the night with you the night before? 512 00:21:26,633 --> 00:21:28,112 Mm-hmm, she brought me that tie. 513 00:21:28,243 --> 00:21:29,635 - She brought you the tie. - Yep. 514 00:21:29,636 --> 00:21:31,159 - The horsehair tie. - Yep. 515 00:21:31,333 --> 00:21:33,161 Now, West, explain your tie. 516 00:21:33,292 --> 00:21:34,902 Um, my friend, Meija, made this for me. 517 00:21:34,989 --> 00:21:35,946 We gotta tighten it up. 518 00:21:36,077 --> 00:21:38,558 Snarl Studios. It's horsehair. 519 00:21:38,688 --> 00:21:40,908 Real horsehair. - This is a real horsehair tie. 520 00:21:42,562 --> 00:21:44,825 And did you know that he was dating this woman? 521 00:21:44,955 --> 00:21:45,869 - Yeah. - Yes. 522 00:21:45,956 --> 00:21:46,827 You know now, or you knew then? 523 00:21:46,914 --> 00:21:48,263 And you didn't care? 524 00:21:48,437 --> 00:21:50,352 Uh, we had a whole conversation about it. 525 00:21:50,526 --> 00:21:53,311 Amanda, why are you doing this? 526 00:21:53,312 --> 00:21:54,617 - Doing what? - Like, why? 527 00:21:54,748 --> 00:21:55,357 You went from being married, and I'm not saying 528 00:21:55,531 --> 00:21:57,011 your relationship was perfect. 529 00:21:57,185 --> 00:21:57,794 - No, certainly not. - But you went from being married 530 00:21:57,881 --> 00:21:59,448 to being one of West's side bitches. 531 00:21:59,579 --> 00:22:01,189 That's crazy. 532 00:22:03,670 --> 00:22:05,715 - Okay. - This is unnecessary. 533 00:22:05,846 --> 00:22:07,543 We're gonna talk about this. 534 00:22:07,717 --> 00:22:10,720 Let's talk about the statement. 535 00:22:10,851 --> 00:22:13,244 The statement came out incredibly rushed 536 00:22:13,375 --> 00:22:16,683 because of how insane it all became. 537 00:22:16,770 --> 00:22:19,947 There's a zillion reasons why this was confusing 538 00:22:20,077 --> 00:22:20,904 and didn't make sense, 539 00:22:21,122 --> 00:22:21,905 and there's so many layers to it. 540 00:22:22,079 --> 00:22:23,385 Isn't that enough layers to go 541 00:22:23,472 --> 00:22:24,430 what the are we doing here? 542 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:25,953 - Right, yeah. - Period. 543 00:22:26,127 --> 00:22:27,171 - We talked about it. - You'd think that that would-- 544 00:22:27,389 --> 00:22:29,738 so, it was so conscious that you guys talked about it. 545 00:22:29,739 --> 00:22:30,871 It wasn't just like a drunk hookup. 546 00:22:31,001 --> 00:22:32,351 You guys talked about it. 547 00:22:32,481 --> 00:22:34,396 - No, it all started with-- - You knew how----ed up 548 00:22:34,527 --> 00:22:35,963 and how----ing weird it would be, 549 00:22:36,050 --> 00:22:37,878 and you still did it, you chose to do it. 550 00:22:38,008 --> 00:22:39,140 - Okay, but guess what. - You kept doing it, 551 00:22:39,227 --> 00:22:40,750 and you were hiding it from-- - Sometimes you can't help 552 00:22:40,881 --> 00:22:43,405 who you like and who you are attracted to. 553 00:22:43,579 --> 00:22:45,146 That was some-- - You actually can help it. 554 00:22:45,276 --> 00:22:46,102 - So, you didn't-- - When you're married, 555 00:22:46,103 --> 00:22:47,191 you actually can help it. - So, you-- 556 00:22:47,366 --> 00:22:49,193 I wasn't married anymore, Ciara. 557 00:22:49,324 --> 00:22:51,282 Are you guys actually legally? Have you guys filed? 558 00:22:51,370 --> 00:22:53,459 I've-I've attained counsel, 559 00:22:53,546 --> 00:22:55,548 and my attorney has reached out to Kyle, 560 00:22:55,678 --> 00:22:56,766 but we haven't gotten anywhere since then. 561 00:22:56,853 --> 00:22:58,768 Legally-- by-by the State of New York, 562 00:22:58,942 --> 00:23:00,204 you're still----ing married. - New Jersey. 563 00:23:00,379 --> 00:23:01,684 So, I'm sorry, but when I'm separated from someone, 564 00:23:01,815 --> 00:23:03,860 I have to stay celibate and single 565 00:23:04,078 --> 00:23:05,340 for the rest of my life until the judge signs papers? - Nobody was saying stay-- 566 00:23:05,558 --> 00:23:06,994 nobody was-nobody was saying that you needed 567 00:23:07,081 --> 00:23:09,475 to stay celibate or what the ever, 568 00:23:09,649 --> 00:23:11,477 but there are a million other----ing guys 569 00:23:11,607 --> 00:23:14,262 in New York City, but you chose the one that-- 570 00:23:14,393 --> 00:23:16,264 and you know how much that----ed me up. 571 00:23:16,395 --> 00:23:17,918 You chose the one guy. 572 00:23:18,092 --> 00:23:19,049 - I didn't chose-- I didn't-- - And you did it on purpose 573 00:23:19,136 --> 00:23:20,877 'cause you're a----ing snake, Amanda. 574 00:23:20,964 --> 00:23:22,270 You're a snake in the----ing grass, 575 00:23:22,401 --> 00:23:23,880 is what you are. - That is-- okay. 576 00:23:23,967 --> 00:23:25,360 You're a snake in the----ing grass, 577 00:23:25,491 --> 00:23:26,840 and you should honestly just say, "Okay," 578 00:23:26,970 --> 00:23:28,015 because you know you are. 579 00:23:28,145 --> 00:23:30,104 You move silent, but you're----ing deadly. 580 00:23:32,498 --> 00:23:34,630 Carl, Renee from Jacksonville said, 581 00:23:34,804 --> 00:23:36,284 "The public didn't go easy on you 582 00:23:36,458 --> 00:23:37,590 after your breakup with Lindsay, 583 00:23:37,677 --> 00:23:38,765 and you stayed quiet. 584 00:23:38,895 --> 00:23:41,202 So, when Amanda and West put out a statement, 585 00:23:41,332 --> 00:23:43,334 did you think it was the right move 586 00:23:43,422 --> 00:23:45,206 or unnecessary?" 587 00:23:45,336 --> 00:23:46,903 I mean, terrible move, 588 00:23:47,121 --> 00:23:49,645 but if you're gonna do it, apologize to Ciara and Kyle. 589 00:23:49,732 --> 00:23:51,342 Period. - I apologized privately. 590 00:23:51,473 --> 00:23:52,996 - In a statement publicly. - 100% but-- 591 00:23:53,127 --> 00:23:54,649 But who's the statement for? 592 00:23:54,650 --> 00:23:55,695 Like, why did you put a statement out? 593 00:23:55,869 --> 00:23:57,261 Everyone was asking for it to be addressed. 594 00:23:57,436 --> 00:23:58,524 It's like singing "Happy Birthday" 595 00:23:58,611 --> 00:24:00,308 without using someone's name. Like, it's-- 596 00:24:00,395 --> 00:24:01,657 You put a statement out because you----ed up. 597 00:24:01,788 --> 00:24:02,745 - I texted Ciara separately. - But you didn't address 598 00:24:02,876 --> 00:24:03,659 the people that you----ed up. 599 00:24:03,746 --> 00:24:04,704 I addressed them, 600 00:24:04,834 --> 00:24:06,488 and I texted every single one of you 601 00:24:06,619 --> 00:24:08,229 on this stage, apologizing. 602 00:24:08,403 --> 00:24:09,883 Did you text her a personal apology? 603 00:24:10,013 --> 00:24:11,493 Yeah, 100%. 604 00:24:11,624 --> 00:24:12,755 I mean, did-- you knew that 605 00:24:12,842 --> 00:24:15,192 it would need to be a conversation? 606 00:24:15,279 --> 00:24:16,585 - Okay, well, let's go over-- - Yeah, I would have loved 607 00:24:16,716 --> 00:24:18,413 to have been able to talk. - Let's go over my-- 608 00:24:18,500 --> 00:24:20,894 her first text since we wanna get into it. 609 00:24:21,068 --> 00:24:23,723 Okay, so, the day that the rumors dropped, 610 00:24:23,897 --> 00:24:25,202 don't hear from her until, like, that night. 611 00:24:25,420 --> 00:24:26,334 Okay. 612 00:24:26,421 --> 00:24:27,553 "Hi, Checking in. 613 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:28,945 The Internet is----ing on one, right now, 614 00:24:29,076 --> 00:24:31,165 and I feel like everything I do is under a microscope. 615 00:24:31,339 --> 00:24:33,167 I can't believe I'm even having to text you this, right now, 616 00:24:33,297 --> 00:24:35,561 but West and I are very much so just friends. 617 00:24:35,691 --> 00:24:37,214 I'm sad we're even having to discuss this." 618 00:24:37,301 --> 00:24:38,215 - Yeah. - I said, "So, I"-- 619 00:24:38,346 --> 00:24:39,521 And so, hold on, to be clear, 620 00:24:39,739 --> 00:24:41,349 you were hooking up, at that time. 621 00:24:41,436 --> 00:24:42,655 - 100%, 100%. - We're talking, 622 00:24:42,742 --> 00:24:44,918 and everything was PG. 623 00:24:45,048 --> 00:24:47,094 Everything that was happening between us was PG, 624 00:24:47,268 --> 00:24:48,356 and everything started with conversations and emotion. 625 00:24:48,443 --> 00:24:50,184 - What's PG? - What-what's PG? 626 00:24:50,314 --> 00:24:52,186 - Why continue to lie? - Like, literally. 627 00:24:52,316 --> 00:24:53,883 Like, can't you just tell us when things-- 628 00:24:53,970 --> 00:24:54,971 That's what I'm saying 'cause, like, what are we doing here? 629 00:24:55,058 --> 00:24:56,103 Like, when did you guys hook up for the first time? 630 00:24:56,233 --> 00:24:56,973 - With a guy that I used-- - After the statement. 631 00:24:57,104 --> 00:24:57,799 With a guy that I used to date-- anyway. 632 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:58,932 So, and then I said, 633 00:24:59,062 --> 00:25:00,499 "So, I can expect for there to be no photos 634 00:25:00,673 --> 00:25:01,935 or videos coming out? 635 00:25:02,065 --> 00:25:03,110 'Cause I feel like it's such a widespread rumor 636 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,155 for there to be no veracity to it." 637 00:25:05,329 --> 00:25:07,810 She goes, "No, nothing different than what I've posted myself. 638 00:25:07,984 --> 00:25:09,551 People have just seen us with each other more and more 639 00:25:09,682 --> 00:25:11,118 and are being psychos. 640 00:25:11,292 --> 00:25:12,206 I hear what you're saying, but I feel like 641 00:25:12,336 --> 00:25:13,773 I can't even exist right now 642 00:25:13,990 --> 00:25:15,949 without people overanalyzing everything I do." 643 00:25:16,123 --> 00:25:18,168 And so, I go, "Okay, so, for clarity, 644 00:25:18,299 --> 00:25:20,301 since I don't really feel like you're making it clear, 645 00:25:20,431 --> 00:25:22,432 you and West haven't hooked up, made out, 646 00:25:22,433 --> 00:25:24,610 held hands under table, or had sex?" 647 00:25:24,827 --> 00:25:26,220 I just get a, "Correct." - And I said, "Correct." 648 00:25:26,350 --> 00:25:28,526 And I lied, 100% lied. 649 00:25:28,527 --> 00:25:29,571 She would, all of a sudden, 650 00:25:29,658 --> 00:25:30,441 for the first time in five years, 651 00:25:30,572 --> 00:25:31,965 your location would go off. 652 00:25:32,139 --> 00:25:33,227 Right, you turned your location off. 653 00:25:33,357 --> 00:25:33,923 And then you'd forget. Then you would forget. 654 00:25:34,141 --> 00:25:35,185 I don't always share my location 655 00:25:35,316 --> 00:25:37,144 with the two of you. 656 00:25:37,274 --> 00:25:40,190 Between Kyle, my management, other friends, 657 00:25:40,364 --> 00:25:42,236 I didn't want people to know where I was all the time. 658 00:25:42,410 --> 00:25:43,193 - 'Cause you were at West's. - 'Cause you were out with West. 659 00:25:43,324 --> 00:25:44,151 Because you're doing something-- 660 00:25:44,368 --> 00:25:45,761 You're not supposed to be there with him. 661 00:25:45,892 --> 00:25:46,849 - You're doing shady stuff. - You were doing shady sh--. 662 00:25:47,023 --> 00:25:47,676 You were at-- you were sleeping at West's apartment. 663 00:25:47,763 --> 00:25:49,417 So, you-- so-so, you then text Ciara. 664 00:25:49,504 --> 00:25:50,897 - Of course, you'd turn it off. - Sure, that-- 665 00:25:51,027 --> 00:25:51,767 Sure, that's-- Okay. - I would definitely turn it off 666 00:25:51,898 --> 00:25:53,421 if I was, like, gonna get caught 667 00:25:53,552 --> 00:25:55,075 sleeping with my best friend's ex. 668 00:25:55,205 --> 00:25:57,643 - Okay. - I was not sleeping with West! 669 00:25:57,817 --> 00:25:59,340 - Whatever. - Were you not sleeping over? 670 00:26:00,820 --> 00:26:03,039 All right, we're gonna get to it a little bit later. 671 00:26:03,213 --> 00:26:05,999 So, who made the first move? 672 00:26:06,129 --> 00:26:07,696 Um, I-- When we were out, 673 00:26:07,827 --> 00:26:09,655 I, like, kinda looked at Amanda, 674 00:26:09,785 --> 00:26:10,830 and I was like, "Am I----ing crazy, 675 00:26:11,047 --> 00:26:13,876 or is there a little something going on here?" 676 00:26:15,356 --> 00:26:18,228 - That's so funny. - When was your first kiss? 677 00:26:18,402 --> 00:26:22,232 - End of February. - End of February, after brunch. 678 00:26:22,406 --> 00:26:24,495 When did it first happen that you slept together? 679 00:26:24,626 --> 00:26:26,323 Oh, so, the brunch that you guys all went out to, 680 00:26:26,454 --> 00:26:27,411 that was your first kiss? 681 00:26:29,196 --> 00:26:30,763 That night, yeah. 682 00:26:32,808 --> 00:26:34,723 When did you first sleep together? 683 00:26:34,810 --> 00:26:36,551 - Is that-- - After the statement-- 684 00:26:38,684 --> 00:26:40,381 I mean, not that night, but-- 685 00:26:43,645 --> 00:26:44,820 Also, to clear up, this isn't, like, 686 00:26:44,951 --> 00:26:46,953 a s-sex scandal. 687 00:26:47,127 --> 00:26:48,781 It was, like, hanging out, kisses. 688 00:26:48,911 --> 00:26:50,478 Yeah, we know you didn't until recently, 689 00:26:50,609 --> 00:26:51,348 a couple weeks ago, first time, good job. 690 00:26:51,566 --> 00:26:52,828 Yeah, I'm-I'm just clearing that up 691 00:26:52,959 --> 00:26:53,699 for the what was going on. - 'Cause you were, like-- 692 00:26:53,829 --> 00:26:54,482 I'd rather not visualize the sex part. 693 00:26:54,656 --> 00:26:55,744 Yeah. 694 00:26:55,831 --> 00:26:56,789 Can we just get back to the question? 695 00:26:56,919 --> 00:26:57,789 - Yeah. - Um, okay, 696 00:26:57,790 --> 00:26:59,792 so, I-I wanna hear the rest. 697 00:26:59,879 --> 00:27:02,577 Okay, so, then Saturday, March 7th, she says, 698 00:27:02,664 --> 00:27:04,405 "Oh, my gosh," she says, "Do you want to talk at all? 699 00:27:04,579 --> 00:27:05,885 I'm super in my head about where we left off 700 00:27:06,059 --> 00:27:07,451 this conversation, 701 00:27:07,669 --> 00:27:09,410 and I hate the thought of things being weird between us 702 00:27:09,584 --> 00:27:11,499 because of West. Like, that's so silly to me. 703 00:27:11,630 --> 00:27:12,413 I have nothing going on today or tomorrow... 704 00:27:12,543 --> 00:27:13,675 Maybe I should have just said to you... 705 00:27:13,762 --> 00:27:14,458 from the get-go-- - ...if you wanna do something." 706 00:27:14,545 --> 00:27:16,547 "I don't know what's going on. 707 00:27:16,678 --> 00:27:18,811 I had feelings for someone that I'm not supposed to have feelings for. 708 00:27:18,985 --> 00:27:19,638 I don't know what to do about it." 709 00:27:19,725 --> 00:27:20,508 And then you remove yourself. 710 00:27:20,726 --> 00:27:21,770 That's what a normal friend would do. 711 00:27:21,901 --> 00:27:23,424 - And-and-and what would-- - What? 712 00:27:23,554 --> 00:27:24,381 - You remove yourself. - And how would you have responded 713 00:27:24,512 --> 00:27:25,600 if she said that? - Well, if you-- 714 00:27:25,687 --> 00:27:27,950 So, I'm not allowed to pursue something 715 00:27:28,081 --> 00:27:30,431 that I feel strongly about. - No. 716 00:27:30,561 --> 00:27:32,520 Well, at that point, y-you clearly don't feel strongly 717 00:27:32,607 --> 00:27:33,652 if you're trying to understand it. - The answer is no. 718 00:27:33,826 --> 00:27:35,044 - No. Yeah, you know-- - Are we morally bankrupt? No. 719 00:27:35,175 --> 00:27:36,872 - Like, literally no. - Got it. 720 00:27:37,003 --> 00:27:38,569 So, no one in-- And no one in this world 721 00:27:38,744 --> 00:27:40,484 has ever been in a situation like this before. 722 00:27:40,659 --> 00:27:42,443 - No, ever! - In high school, maybe! 723 00:27:42,530 --> 00:27:43,705 We're in our 30's, not in high school. 724 00:27:43,879 --> 00:27:45,185 This is not the craziest thing 725 00:27:45,272 --> 00:27:47,056 that's ever happened in the whole entire world. 726 00:27:47,230 --> 00:27:48,579 You guys are acting like I had an affair. 727 00:27:48,754 --> 00:27:49,493 - You can downplay it. - I'm not downplaying. 728 00:27:49,668 --> 00:27:50,843 Okay, well, let me ask you this. 729 00:27:50,930 --> 00:27:51,844 - No, you had a whole month. - Hold on! Hold on! 730 00:27:51,931 --> 00:27:52,975 That's exactly what you came here to do today 731 00:27:53,106 --> 00:27:53,933 You're literally downplaying it. 732 00:27:54,063 --> 00:27:56,457 I'm not downplaying your feelings. 733 00:27:56,544 --> 00:27:56,979 No, well, what do you think that this-- 734 00:27:57,110 --> 00:27:58,415 Not a----ing thing. 735 00:27:58,502 --> 00:28:00,243 Everything he says is gonna-- 736 00:28:00,417 --> 00:28:01,244 You're saying that you felt so convicted, 737 00:28:01,375 --> 00:28:02,244 that you just had so much feelings 738 00:28:02,245 --> 00:28:03,202 that you were so confused about it, 739 00:28:03,203 --> 00:28:04,508 so you put out a statement. 740 00:28:04,639 --> 00:28:06,772 You're willing to disrupt the whole equilibrium 741 00:28:06,946 --> 00:28:09,949 in this house for, like, um, figuring out 742 00:28:10,079 --> 00:28:11,690 how you guys are feeling for each other. 743 00:28:13,909 --> 00:28:17,870 Okay, so, to close this portion of the conversation, 744 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,743 I-I would like to hear-- Ciara, what are your intentions 745 00:28:21,961 --> 00:28:27,662 that you hope for, for this reunion? 746 00:28:27,749 --> 00:28:30,099 I mean, after that, I don't know. 747 00:28:30,230 --> 00:28:31,753 I mean, I guess we might as well discuss the details 748 00:28:31,884 --> 00:28:32,928 before I put them in the ground 749 00:28:33,015 --> 00:28:34,234 and cover 'em with dirt. So... 750 00:28:37,193 --> 00:28:40,935 Okay, so, we are gonna hit pause on Amanda and West, 751 00:28:40,936 --> 00:28:43,198 and we're gonna circle back on that. 752 00:28:43,199 --> 00:28:44,070 We'll be right back. 753 00:28:50,511 --> 00:28:51,817 Coming up... 754 00:28:51,991 --> 00:28:54,254 Whose cardboard cutout got the most action? 755 00:28:54,384 --> 00:28:56,038 - Lindsay. - I-I gave a lot of hand jobs. 756 00:28:56,169 --> 00:28:57,910 I tried to put that on TikTok, and it censored it. 757 00:29:07,136 --> 00:29:09,617 You look great. Everyone looks fantastic. 758 00:29:09,748 --> 00:29:12,968 Lindsay's giving, like, Cruella De Vil. 759 00:29:13,099 --> 00:29:14,665 - You know. - Yeah, see every, like, 760 00:29:14,753 --> 00:29:17,799 little-- did you get a spray tan? What'd you do? 761 00:29:17,973 --> 00:29:22,282 - Spray tan, body glow, glitter. - Damn, girl. 762 00:29:22,412 --> 00:29:25,241 Yeah, it looks good. 763 00:29:25,372 --> 00:29:27,896 Yep, looks pretty good. 764 00:29:28,027 --> 00:29:30,203 - You look great. - You want another hug, Carl? 765 00:29:30,333 --> 00:29:34,163 Hug-house, I'll always take a hug. 766 00:29:34,294 --> 00:29:36,209 Look at this hot-ass girl comin' out here. 767 00:29:36,339 --> 00:29:37,950 - Oh, she does look good. - Hey, Levi. 768 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:38,951 - Levi. - Hi. Hello. 769 00:29:39,081 --> 00:29:40,039 - Great to see you. - Hey, Levi. 770 00:29:40,126 --> 00:29:41,388 - Hi. Hi, everyone. - Hello. 771 00:29:41,518 --> 00:29:42,519 - Whoo! - You look great. 772 00:29:42,693 --> 00:29:45,348 - Whoo, Levi! - Sexy. 773 00:29:45,479 --> 00:29:47,089 - You look so hot. - Love the green. 774 00:29:47,263 --> 00:29:49,004 Is Levi wearing Soft Bar green? 775 00:29:49,135 --> 00:29:50,484 - She is. - Oh. 776 00:29:50,614 --> 00:29:52,225 - This is our boy. - You girls coordinated. 777 00:29:52,399 --> 00:29:55,141 - Nice. - So, I heard I missed a lot. 778 00:29:55,271 --> 00:29:56,185 Good portion to miss. 779 00:29:56,316 --> 00:29:57,099 We're gonna lighten up the mood. 780 00:29:57,230 --> 00:30:01,321 Here we go. Five, four, three... 781 00:30:01,495 --> 00:30:02,931 Welcome back. 782 00:30:03,018 --> 00:30:04,585 Before the West and Amanda news 783 00:30:04,759 --> 00:30:06,674 shattered the internet to pieces, 784 00:30:06,805 --> 00:30:08,545 this crew managed to come together 785 00:30:08,632 --> 00:30:11,940 for plenty of chaos in the fun department. 786 00:30:12,114 --> 00:30:13,942 Oh! 787 00:30:16,249 --> 00:30:18,251 Go, go, go! 788 00:30:18,425 --> 00:30:19,339 Kill him! 789 00:30:21,297 --> 00:30:23,299 Whoa! What the...? 790 00:30:23,430 --> 00:30:26,520 And with a whole new crop of new housemates, 791 00:30:26,650 --> 00:30:30,393 the energy this summer was anything but low. 792 00:30:30,524 --> 00:30:32,091 Dara's gonna join us in a little bit, 793 00:30:32,265 --> 00:30:34,528 but, right now, we are joined by Levi. 794 00:30:34,658 --> 00:30:36,225 Hi, Levi. - Hi. 795 00:30:36,356 --> 00:30:39,185 - How was your summer? - It was really fun. 796 00:30:39,359 --> 00:30:40,490 The parties were my favorite part 797 00:30:40,577 --> 00:30:41,709 and getting to know everyone. 798 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,406 It was a really incredible summer. 799 00:30:43,580 --> 00:30:44,625 Levi and Bailey, 800 00:30:44,755 --> 00:30:46,714 I love it that you decided to share a bed 801 00:30:46,801 --> 00:30:49,108 and then put the clothes in the other bed. 802 00:30:49,238 --> 00:30:51,458 - Is this our sleep bed? - Yes. 803 00:30:51,588 --> 00:30:54,243 Wait, this is crazy work. 804 00:30:54,374 --> 00:30:55,723 - Wait, what? - Oh, yeah. 805 00:30:55,854 --> 00:30:56,942 We wanted to cuddle. 806 00:30:57,072 --> 00:30:59,553 Are you two as inseparable as you seem? 807 00:30:59,683 --> 00:31:00,336 I think it's worse than people even realize. 808 00:31:00,423 --> 00:31:01,033 - Probably way worse. - Yes. 809 00:31:01,163 --> 00:31:01,772 - Really? - Probably. 810 00:31:01,903 --> 00:31:02,904 Yeah, we do-- 811 00:31:03,035 --> 00:31:04,036 How many times a day do you talk? 812 00:31:04,123 --> 00:31:05,037 - See, do you hear Carl? - I-I, literally, 813 00:31:05,167 --> 00:31:06,603 any time I see Bailey, it's always, like, 814 00:31:06,734 --> 00:31:08,692 Levi's right there. 815 00:31:08,779 --> 00:31:11,521 Ciara, your costumes this summer, uh, 816 00:31:11,652 --> 00:31:14,437 just absolutely through the roof-- plague rat, 817 00:31:14,568 --> 00:31:17,571 an elderly version of Karma Brown. 818 00:31:17,701 --> 00:31:19,878 Um, it looked like Karma's strap-on breasts 819 00:31:20,008 --> 00:31:21,488 got a lot of action. 820 00:31:21,618 --> 00:31:24,273 Honestly, best $300 I ever spent off eBay. 821 00:31:24,404 --> 00:31:25,535 I mean-- - Thank you, Karma. 822 00:31:25,666 --> 00:31:27,146 - Three hundred? - I mean, yeah. 823 00:31:27,276 --> 00:31:28,364 Pierce 'em. Pierce those nipples. 824 00:31:28,495 --> 00:31:29,583 We need those for, uh-- we need the tits for-- 825 00:31:29,713 --> 00:31:30,845 - In the clubhouse. - BravoCon. 826 00:31:30,976 --> 00:31:31,890 - Well, I-- well, I saved them. - Oh, good. 827 00:31:32,064 --> 00:31:33,195 Oh, I was hoping one day they could, like, 828 00:31:33,326 --> 00:31:34,893 live in the Clubhouse. - Oh, great. 829 00:31:34,980 --> 00:31:37,939 Um, Jesse, Andrea from Brooklyn, New York, 830 00:31:38,070 --> 00:31:39,723 wants to know whose cardboard cutout 831 00:31:39,854 --> 00:31:41,160 got the most action. 832 00:31:41,290 --> 00:31:43,902 Oh, man, I think everybody got a fair share. 833 00:31:44,032 --> 00:31:44,815 - I think Lindsay. - Carl got a hand job. 834 00:31:44,946 --> 00:31:46,861 Yeah. 835 00:31:48,776 --> 00:31:50,386 - Lindsay-- - I-I gave a lot of hand jobs. 836 00:31:50,517 --> 00:31:53,607 I tried to put that on TikTok, and it censored it. 837 00:31:53,694 --> 00:31:55,087 Mia, Abbey from Virginia said, 838 00:31:55,217 --> 00:31:57,611 "You've been such an amazing addition to the cast 839 00:31:57,741 --> 00:31:59,004 and your friendship with Ciara. 840 00:31:59,178 --> 00:32:03,138 The support, deep love, and loyalty is pure goals." 841 00:32:03,269 --> 00:32:04,357 And you live in the same building. 842 00:32:04,531 --> 00:32:05,445 - We sure do. - Mm-hmm. 843 00:32:05,532 --> 00:32:06,925 - Okay, I love it. - We love it. 844 00:32:07,099 --> 00:32:09,275 We love it and I'm just so thankful I have her, 845 00:32:09,362 --> 00:32:11,973 especially at this point of my life 846 00:32:12,104 --> 00:32:14,323 where I feel like I've lost so much. 847 00:32:14,454 --> 00:32:16,543 It feels so incredible to feel like 848 00:32:16,673 --> 00:32:19,502 I have something that I know I can depend on 849 00:32:19,633 --> 00:32:20,895 and rely on, and who's always 850 00:32:20,982 --> 00:32:22,941 gonna be there for me. - Mmm. 851 00:32:23,071 --> 00:32:24,725 I know I speak for everyone, Mia, 852 00:32:24,855 --> 00:32:28,381 when I say how touched I was when you shared stories 853 00:32:28,468 --> 00:32:29,860 about your beautiful mom 854 00:32:29,948 --> 00:32:32,602 and your struggles, uh, since her passing. 855 00:32:32,776 --> 00:32:36,911 We got a lot of messages of gratitude from viewers. 856 00:32:36,998 --> 00:32:40,132 Melissa from Anchorage said, "Did visiting a psychic help, 857 00:32:40,262 --> 00:32:44,049 or was the heartbreak it brought on too intense?" 858 00:32:44,223 --> 00:32:46,094 It's an interesting question. - Yeah. 859 00:32:46,181 --> 00:32:50,055 I think, for me, I needed that. 860 00:32:50,185 --> 00:32:54,059 I was so worried and hearing that my mom was okay, 861 00:32:54,146 --> 00:32:58,628 wherever she is, just meant the world to me. 862 00:32:58,759 --> 00:33:04,983 How is your journey processing the grief going? 863 00:33:05,113 --> 00:33:06,462 - Every day is different. - Yeah. 864 00:33:06,636 --> 00:33:07,855 It-it really is a journey. 865 00:33:07,986 --> 00:33:11,337 Some days, I'm really smiley and excited, 866 00:33:11,511 --> 00:33:13,600 and I feel incredible. 867 00:33:13,730 --> 00:33:15,341 And then other days-- I'm gonna be honest-- 868 00:33:15,515 --> 00:33:17,169 I feel completely stuck. 869 00:33:17,299 --> 00:33:22,696 But I just try and almost live for my mom and my dad 870 00:33:22,826 --> 00:33:24,611 and do all the things that I can 871 00:33:24,741 --> 00:33:26,656 that I know they would want me to do. 872 00:33:26,830 --> 00:33:27,918 The summer found you 873 00:33:28,049 --> 00:33:29,833 at something of a fork in the road, 874 00:33:30,008 --> 00:33:31,357 uh, in your relationship with Scott. 875 00:33:31,531 --> 00:33:33,098 Yeah. 876 00:33:33,185 --> 00:33:35,013 How did that play out? 877 00:33:35,143 --> 00:33:37,754 So, after the summer, we broke up shortly after. 878 00:33:37,841 --> 00:33:38,799 - You did. - We did. 879 00:33:38,929 --> 00:33:40,322 And how long had you been together? 880 00:33:40,453 --> 00:33:41,671 - A few years. - Okay. 881 00:33:41,802 --> 00:33:43,325 Did you instigate that breakup? 882 00:33:43,412 --> 00:33:44,805 - I always do. - You always do. 883 00:33:44,935 --> 00:33:46,372 - Yeah, I'm the breaker upper. - You are. 884 00:33:46,502 --> 00:33:47,895 - Yeah, I am. - Wow. 885 00:33:48,069 --> 00:33:51,507 Ciara, what is single Mia like? 886 00:33:51,638 --> 00:33:53,422 I mean, I saw her at "Watch What Happens Live", 887 00:33:53,553 --> 00:33:55,729 and she was on one. So... 888 00:33:55,816 --> 00:33:57,948 Oh, my God, look at her. Look at her. 889 00:33:58,079 --> 00:33:59,211 What are you doing? What was happening? 890 00:33:59,341 --> 00:34:00,864 Mia-- she loves strays. 891 00:34:00,995 --> 00:34:02,736 I'm like, stop talking to everyone. 892 00:34:02,866 --> 00:34:04,085 I do. I love to talk to people. 893 00:34:04,172 --> 00:34:05,260 Like, she loves to talk to everyone. I'm like, 894 00:34:05,347 --> 00:34:05,826 can we just talk to our group? - I can't help it. 895 00:34:05,913 --> 00:34:07,001 - The strays. - I do. 896 00:34:07,132 --> 00:34:08,350 She's like, "Oh, my God, what's your name?" 897 00:34:08,437 --> 00:34:09,612 Are you looking for the one, 898 00:34:09,743 --> 00:34:11,353 or to have fun, right now? 899 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,225 - I'm not looking for anyone, right now. - Okay. 900 00:34:13,312 --> 00:34:15,357 I'm just looking to pour into myself. 901 00:34:15,444 --> 00:34:18,056 I think it's unhealthy to go from one serious relationship 902 00:34:18,186 --> 00:34:19,579 to another. 903 00:34:19,753 --> 00:34:21,972 Like, I just-- like, let's pump the brakes. 904 00:34:22,060 --> 00:34:25,541 Let's just celebrate me. 905 00:34:25,672 --> 00:34:27,935 So, Ben, watching back the season, 906 00:34:28,022 --> 00:34:30,894 did you have any idea that Bailey had 907 00:34:31,025 --> 00:34:32,940 that big of a crush on you? 908 00:34:33,071 --> 00:34:34,463 I can never have that long of a conversation 909 00:34:34,550 --> 00:34:36,117 with Australian Matthew McConaughey ever again. 910 00:34:36,248 --> 00:34:39,164 - Are you in love? - Physically, yes, very much, 911 00:34:39,251 --> 00:34:40,861 but look at that man. 912 00:34:40,991 --> 00:34:44,343 Uh, no, I did not. 913 00:34:44,473 --> 00:34:45,344 He said, "Period, end of sentence." 914 00:34:45,474 --> 00:34:47,215 - Yeah, no. - Period. 915 00:34:47,302 --> 00:34:49,913 Um, Bailey, let's talk about Amanda's birthday dinner 916 00:34:50,044 --> 00:34:52,612 because what started as a celebration 917 00:34:52,742 --> 00:34:54,222 really turned into 918 00:34:54,309 --> 00:34:57,704 one of the most uncomfortable moments of the summer. 919 00:34:57,834 --> 00:35:00,359 Uh, you accused Ben of wanting to sleep with Amanda. 920 00:35:00,489 --> 00:35:03,797 Do you think the comment came from frustration, 921 00:35:03,927 --> 00:35:06,887 or jealousy, or a mistimed joke, or what? 922 00:35:07,017 --> 00:35:10,108 It 10,000% did not come from jealousy. 923 00:35:10,238 --> 00:35:13,198 I was not trying to upset Amanda 924 00:35:13,372 --> 00:35:15,156 at her birthday dinner, or insult her, 925 00:35:15,243 --> 00:35:17,724 and that is what I felt the most horrible about. 926 00:35:17,854 --> 00:35:19,334 I had been in a plant costume for three hours. 927 00:35:19,465 --> 00:35:21,031 I was very hot and dehydrated, 928 00:35:21,162 --> 00:35:22,381 and I thought I was being, like, silly 929 00:35:22,511 --> 00:35:23,773 'cause he was talking about her looks. 930 00:35:23,904 --> 00:35:25,471 And I felt like, as I said, 931 00:35:25,601 --> 00:35:26,820 I felt like they joked about it. 932 00:35:26,907 --> 00:35:29,039 I felt like because of the skinny dipping thing, 933 00:35:29,170 --> 00:35:32,217 they had, like, a rapport about it. 934 00:35:32,347 --> 00:35:35,655 So, we met at a wedding in Italy last year. 935 00:35:35,829 --> 00:35:36,873 Okay. 936 00:35:37,004 --> 00:35:38,919 And then it was us who basically... 937 00:35:40,616 --> 00:35:42,357 We, yeah, we were up. Yeah, we stayed up. 938 00:35:42,444 --> 00:35:43,532 - No, it was great. - Yeah, we had a good time. 939 00:35:43,663 --> 00:35:44,881 Yeah. 940 00:35:45,012 --> 00:35:45,926 Did you guys go to an orgy, or something? 941 00:35:46,056 --> 00:35:47,667 - Yeah. - It sounded like it. 942 00:35:47,797 --> 00:35:50,278 It's that European water. 943 00:35:50,409 --> 00:35:52,411 Ben, Lucia from Seattle, uh, said, 944 00:35:52,541 --> 00:35:54,587 "You reacted to Bailey's innocuous joke 945 00:35:54,674 --> 00:35:56,066 with such fervor. 946 00:35:56,197 --> 00:35:59,809 Do you have anger issues?" 947 00:35:59,896 --> 00:36:01,463 Ben? I'm just kidding. 948 00:36:01,594 --> 00:36:02,595 Um, look, it caught me-- it caught me off guard. 949 00:36:02,725 --> 00:36:06,468 I definitely felt, uh, hurt and misunderstood 950 00:36:06,599 --> 00:36:08,383 because that's something that, you know, 951 00:36:08,470 --> 00:36:10,777 had never crossed my mind. I would never do that. 952 00:36:10,907 --> 00:36:14,215 And, you know, calling it out in front of everybody, 953 00:36:14,302 --> 00:36:15,608 I was like-- 954 00:36:15,738 --> 00:36:17,305 so, Bailey and I hadn't had a conversation, 955 00:36:17,392 --> 00:36:18,915 I guess, for the whole summer, 956 00:36:19,046 --> 00:36:20,743 and if you felt that maybe that's-- 957 00:36:20,874 --> 00:36:22,092 A conversation about that or a conversation, in general? 958 00:36:22,267 --> 00:36:24,312 - Anything, any conversation. - What? 959 00:36:24,443 --> 00:36:26,096 Yeah. So, if you kind of wanted to get to know me-- 960 00:36:26,271 --> 00:36:27,707 - Are you----ing joking? - Just hear me out. 961 00:36:27,837 --> 00:36:28,795 - We haven't had a conversation? - Well-- 962 00:36:28,925 --> 00:36:30,840 The first weekend, it was just me, you, 963 00:36:30,927 --> 00:36:32,755 KJ, and Levi. We're all the newbies. 964 00:36:32,886 --> 00:36:34,061 We definitely knew each other. 965 00:36:34,148 --> 00:36:35,715 I've got pictures of just the three of us out. 966 00:36:35,845 --> 00:36:37,499 - Yeah, okay. - You like to reprimand women. 967 00:36:37,630 --> 00:36:39,501 That was your problem. - No, no, no, no. 968 00:36:39,588 --> 00:36:40,937 You reprimanded her, and I don't like----ing like 969 00:36:41,068 --> 00:36:41,982 the way you talk to Sabrina, and I don't like the way 970 00:36:42,112 --> 00:36:43,723 you talk to me and you're full of sh--. 971 00:36:50,208 --> 00:36:51,774 - Just hear me out. - We haven't had a conversation? 972 00:36:51,948 --> 00:36:52,949 The first weekend, 973 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,603 it was just me, you, KJ, and Levi. 974 00:36:55,604 --> 00:36:56,605 We're all the newbies. - We definitely knew each other. 975 00:36:56,823 --> 00:36:58,738 I've got pictures of just the three of us out. 976 00:36:58,868 --> 00:37:00,652 - Yeah, okay. - You like to reprimand women. 977 00:37:00,653 --> 00:37:02,088 That was your problem. - No, no, no, no. 978 00:37:02,089 --> 00:37:03,263 You reprimanded her, and I don't like----ing like 979 00:37:03,264 --> 00:37:04,004 the way you talk to Sabrina, and I don't like the way 980 00:37:04,134 --> 00:37:05,397 you talk to me and you're full of sh--. 981 00:37:05,484 --> 00:37:06,224 Wait, Sabrina's done nothing 982 00:37:06,398 --> 00:37:07,094 but have your back the whole time. 983 00:37:07,225 --> 00:37:08,443 - I adore Sabrina. - Yeah. 984 00:37:08,617 --> 00:37:10,271 Adore. I think she could do better than you. 985 00:37:10,402 --> 00:37:12,534 - Okay, so, listen. - You talk to Sabrina like sh--. 986 00:37:12,665 --> 00:37:13,666 I didn't say anything was wrong with Sabrina. 987 00:37:13,753 --> 00:37:15,058 Sabrina is exquisite. 988 00:37:15,189 --> 00:37:16,494 I've watched you talking to her, and I was like, 989 00:37:16,495 --> 00:37:18,845 why does this guy only pop off on women? 990 00:37:18,975 --> 00:37:20,802 Sabrina Belle, please do me a favor. 991 00:37:20,803 --> 00:37:22,762 - Okay. - Get ready. 992 00:37:22,892 --> 00:37:24,416 God forbid we ever----ing have children, 993 00:37:24,546 --> 00:37:26,113 and we're trying to get them to school. 994 00:37:26,287 --> 00:37:27,245 When you talk to Kyle, you look like 995 00:37:27,332 --> 00:37:28,594 you're gonna make out with him, 996 00:37:28,724 --> 00:37:31,249 no matter how in the wrong he is. 997 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:42,564 But she did something you didn't like. 998 00:37:42,738 --> 00:37:44,044 Reprimand. - No. 999 00:37:44,174 --> 00:37:44,784 - I did something you didn't like. Reprimand. - No. 1000 00:37:44,958 --> 00:37:46,263 Yeah, you get this, like, face. 1001 00:37:46,264 --> 00:37:46,828 Sabrina says something you don't like. Reprimand. 1002 00:37:46,829 --> 00:37:49,267 You only reprimand women. 1003 00:37:49,397 --> 00:37:50,659 So, someone that I didn't know, 1004 00:37:50,746 --> 00:37:52,705 you didn't know me either, calling that out 1005 00:37:52,835 --> 00:37:53,749 with something that I would never do 1006 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,011 'cause I'm boys with Kyle, 1007 00:37:55,142 --> 00:37:57,884 and Amanda and I, we're friends, um, 1008 00:37:58,058 --> 00:37:59,886 and, sure, I treated her as one of the guys, 1009 00:37:59,973 --> 00:38:01,453 as one of the boys. That's what I thought she was. 1010 00:38:01,670 --> 00:38:03,584 So, you-you calling that out, 1011 00:38:03,585 --> 00:38:05,413 I wish you had spoken to me first and said, 1012 00:38:05,544 --> 00:38:06,327 "Listen, I think"-- - 'Cause I don't give a 1013 00:38:06,458 --> 00:38:07,807 if you wanna or not Amanda. 1014 00:38:07,894 --> 00:38:09,199 I also think the reason he got so mad 1015 00:38:09,287 --> 00:38:11,245 was because he was dating Sabrina the whole time, 1016 00:38:11,332 --> 00:38:13,334 but neither here nor there. 1017 00:38:13,465 --> 00:38:14,553 I feel like a lot of guys in this house 1018 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,468 have secret girlfriends. 1019 00:38:17,469 --> 00:38:18,644 Show of hands. 1020 00:38:18,774 --> 00:38:20,689 Who thinks that Ben had a secret girlfriend 1021 00:38:20,907 --> 00:38:23,126 the whole summer? - You definitely did. 1022 00:38:23,301 --> 00:38:25,868 There's a picture of them in June on her Instagram. 1023 00:38:26,042 --> 00:38:28,131 - Oh. - In bed. 1024 00:38:30,046 --> 00:38:31,438 - We film in July. - Anyway-- 1025 00:38:31,439 --> 00:38:33,049 Bailey, you were completely turned off 1026 00:38:33,180 --> 00:38:35,704 when Ben raised his voice, but when Carl lost his cool 1027 00:38:35,922 --> 00:38:37,532 later in the season, you were attracted to him. 1028 00:38:37,663 --> 00:38:39,620 - Wanted to make out with him. - Because-- 1029 00:38:39,621 --> 00:38:41,187 Yes, I did because he wasn't yelling at me, 1030 00:38:41,188 --> 00:38:42,494 a woman, you jackass. - No. 1031 00:38:42,668 --> 00:38:43,756 What do you think? He was yelling 1032 00:38:43,886 --> 00:38:45,584 at----ing Kyle for screaming at a woman. 1033 00:38:45,714 --> 00:38:46,715 He was defending a woman. - You were saying-- 1034 00:38:46,846 --> 00:38:47,976 you were saying that he was angry. 1035 00:38:47,977 --> 00:38:49,022 Isn't that what turned you on? - It was hot. 1036 00:38:49,109 --> 00:38:50,415 You were saying the same thing about me. 1037 00:38:50,545 --> 00:38:51,850 I did not get turned on by you being angry. 1038 00:38:51,851 --> 00:38:53,331 I thought you were the biggest piece of sh-- ever. 1039 00:38:55,028 --> 00:38:57,987 Um, Carl, what started as a surprise connection 1040 00:38:58,074 --> 00:38:59,988 between you and Bailey made for 1041 00:38:59,989 --> 00:39:02,252 some of the sweetest moments of the summer. 1042 00:39:02,427 --> 00:39:05,255 What was it about Bailey that caught your eye? 1043 00:39:05,343 --> 00:39:07,736 I mean, she's easy to talk to, great personality. 1044 00:39:07,823 --> 00:39:10,086 I think she's very in touch with her emotions 1045 00:39:10,173 --> 00:39:11,784 and, like, very emotionally intelligent. 1046 00:39:11,914 --> 00:39:13,959 I don't think I fully was clocking 1047 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,483 some of the energy towards us, 1048 00:39:15,570 --> 00:39:17,616 like, until maybe the last weekend. 1049 00:39:17,746 --> 00:39:20,008 I've always maybe been a little cautious in the house, 1050 00:39:20,009 --> 00:39:22,316 um, for obvious reasons. 1051 00:39:22,447 --> 00:39:25,231 So, I was just trying to kind of play it cool. 1052 00:39:25,232 --> 00:39:27,452 So, where do things stand between the two of you today? 1053 00:39:27,539 --> 00:39:29,192 Did it ever lift off? 1054 00:39:29,323 --> 00:39:31,324 I mean, we've-we've hung out, you know, in the fall. 1055 00:39:31,325 --> 00:39:32,630 We've hung out a fair amount of times. 1056 00:39:32,631 --> 00:39:34,022 I mean, I love our friendship. 1057 00:39:34,023 --> 00:39:35,764 I haven't really been prioritizing, like, 1058 00:39:35,895 --> 00:39:38,026 a dating relationship, just more flirting, 1059 00:39:38,027 --> 00:39:39,463 having fun. Um-- 1060 00:39:39,464 --> 00:39:40,987 Carl loves things soft, you know. 1061 00:39:41,117 --> 00:39:42,292 Nice and soft. 1062 00:39:42,423 --> 00:39:44,469 Bailey, did, uh, you take Lindsay's advice 1063 00:39:44,686 --> 00:39:46,079 and send Carl nudes? 1064 00:39:46,209 --> 00:39:48,167 I did not send Carl a nude because I thought 1065 00:39:48,168 --> 00:39:49,125 that would be insane. - Okay. 1066 00:39:50,388 --> 00:39:51,606 It might be hard, at that point. 1067 00:39:51,780 --> 00:39:53,260 Um, but I have spent a lot of time with him 1068 00:39:53,478 --> 00:39:55,001 and, um, love him and adore him so much. 1069 00:39:55,131 --> 00:39:56,568 Hard Bar. 1070 00:39:56,698 --> 00:40:00,615 But, no, I have not unsolicited sent him a nude. 1071 00:40:00,746 --> 00:40:03,182 If she sent you a nude, what would you do? 1072 00:40:03,183 --> 00:40:06,403 He'd open up Hard Bar. 1073 00:40:06,404 --> 00:40:07,666 He stole that from me. 1074 00:40:07,796 --> 00:40:09,537 Give credit where credit is due, please. 1075 00:40:09,624 --> 00:40:10,799 - OMG. - Hey, you two-- 1076 00:40:10,886 --> 00:40:11,974 you two next to each other are dangerous. 1077 00:40:12,148 --> 00:40:13,628 Wait, I do have a question, though, Carl, 1078 00:40:13,802 --> 00:40:15,674 because I was talking to Bailey. 1079 00:40:15,804 --> 00:40:18,589 She would go for it. Would you go for it? 1080 00:40:18,590 --> 00:40:20,155 Ooh, hotseat. 1081 00:40:20,156 --> 00:40:22,158 I mean, I think I would, 1082 00:40:22,376 --> 00:40:23,812 but I-I feel like where we are, right now, 1083 00:40:23,943 --> 00:40:25,945 I'm just liking the friendship and-- 1084 00:40:26,162 --> 00:40:27,033 And we're in very different places 1085 00:40:27,207 --> 00:40:28,338 in our lives. - Totally. 1086 00:40:28,469 --> 00:40:29,600 You're a lot-- you're a lot older than me. 1087 00:40:29,601 --> 00:40:31,123 I-I will say that's probably something I think 1088 00:40:31,124 --> 00:40:31,864 I forget about it, is just, like, the age difference. 1089 00:40:31,951 --> 00:40:33,561 - Yeah. - How old are you? 1090 00:40:33,692 --> 00:40:35,868 - I'm 31. - And I'm 41. 1091 00:40:36,085 --> 00:40:36,738 - Oh, okay, ten years. Big deal. - That's not that bad. 1092 00:40:36,912 --> 00:40:38,566 But I feel like mentally, 1093 00:40:38,697 --> 00:40:40,438 he's in a place of, like, wanting to be married 1094 00:40:40,655 --> 00:40:41,917 and, like, knows exactly what he wants. 1095 00:40:42,048 --> 00:40:43,136 Yeah, I'm not just trying to around. 1096 00:40:43,310 --> 00:40:44,659 Like, I really wanna date seriously, 1097 00:40:44,877 --> 00:40:46,487 and get married, and have a family, at some point. 1098 00:40:46,661 --> 00:40:48,140 - Right. - But I don't wanna waste my time. 1099 00:40:48,141 --> 00:40:50,186 Like, just random hookups, like, that was maybe me 1100 00:40:50,317 --> 00:40:51,883 in the past when I was drinking and using, 1101 00:40:51,884 --> 00:40:53,929 but even in the last two years, 1102 00:40:54,103 --> 00:40:55,322 like, I've really tried to, 1103 00:40:55,409 --> 00:40:56,628 like, get to know someone and feel comfortable. 1104 00:40:56,758 --> 00:40:58,106 And I've said this. Like, when you're sober 1105 00:40:58,107 --> 00:41:00,153 and hooking up, like, for the first time, 1106 00:41:00,283 --> 00:41:01,502 it's, like, a little... - Yeah. 1107 00:41:01,633 --> 00:41:03,852 ...it's like learning how to walk, again. 1108 00:41:03,939 --> 00:41:04,549 And you need to be comfortable with that person. 1109 00:41:04,766 --> 00:41:05,985 - Yeah. - Yeah. 1110 00:41:06,072 --> 00:41:07,029 And, not that I'm not comfortable with you, 1111 00:41:07,116 --> 00:41:08,640 but it just, I think, 1112 00:41:08,727 --> 00:41:09,641 takes time to kind of build to there. 1113 00:41:09,771 --> 00:41:12,600 Hmm. 1114 00:41:12,731 --> 00:41:17,952 KJ, you called Ciara and Mia your sisters for life. 1115 00:41:17,953 --> 00:41:19,694 Fans loved it. 1116 00:41:19,825 --> 00:41:21,869 Which one is giving tough love, 1117 00:41:21,870 --> 00:41:25,308 and which one is letting you get away with everything? 1118 00:41:25,526 --> 00:41:26,875 Neither one of us. 1119 00:41:26,962 --> 00:41:30,052 - Neither of one us. - Uh, I don't know 'cause-- 1120 00:41:30,139 --> 00:41:31,619 I feel like we both really tough love. 1121 00:41:31,837 --> 00:41:33,577 I got a bunch of tattoos during the fall-winter. 1122 00:41:33,578 --> 00:41:35,230 - And piercings. - Yeah, piercings. 1123 00:41:35,231 --> 00:41:37,146 And I-- and piercings, too, 1124 00:41:37,277 --> 00:41:39,235 and me and Mia went out to coffee, 1125 00:41:39,453 --> 00:41:41,803 and she's like, "Did you get another tattoo?" 1126 00:41:41,977 --> 00:41:42,935 - I was so upset. - Yeah. 1127 00:41:43,065 --> 00:41:44,240 - Don't get one more tattoo. - And I'm-- 1128 00:41:44,371 --> 00:41:46,460 and then she saw me again and was just like, 1129 00:41:46,591 --> 00:41:48,940 "Did you get another--" like, it's like clocking me. 1130 00:41:48,941 --> 00:41:51,334 Ciara, though, I'll go to events, 1131 00:41:51,421 --> 00:41:52,379 and then people will be like, 1132 00:41:52,597 --> 00:41:54,207 "Yeah, Ciara told us to check in on you 1133 00:41:54,337 --> 00:41:55,382 "and make sure you're good here." 1134 00:41:55,513 --> 00:41:56,775 So, she's always watching over me. 1135 00:41:56,862 --> 00:41:57,732 I'm always watching. 1136 00:41:57,950 --> 00:41:59,865 So, they both give it to me equally. 1137 00:42:00,082 --> 00:42:01,257 KJ, you've been very vocal 1138 00:42:01,388 --> 00:42:03,869 about, uh, your anxiety and mental health, 1139 00:42:03,999 --> 00:42:05,958 which people have really admired. 1140 00:42:06,045 --> 00:42:08,830 Um, what's been your reaction to the support you've gotten 1141 00:42:08,961 --> 00:42:10,136 from-from viewers? 1142 00:42:10,353 --> 00:42:11,441 I didn't expect it. 1143 00:42:11,529 --> 00:42:12,921 Um, in the fall, 1144 00:42:13,008 --> 00:42:16,489 I went through some heavy stuff mentally. 1145 00:42:16,490 --> 00:42:20,059 Um, I actually had to go to the hospital 1146 00:42:20,146 --> 00:42:22,757 for, um, self-harm, 1147 00:42:22,931 --> 00:42:25,716 and, uh, I was there for a week. 1148 00:42:25,717 --> 00:42:29,459 Mia and Ciara were there almost every day. 1149 00:42:29,677 --> 00:42:32,637 And, uh... 1150 00:42:35,553 --> 00:42:36,728 Then I went to recovery, 1151 00:42:36,815 --> 00:42:39,557 um, and that solidified it for me. 1152 00:42:39,644 --> 00:42:42,602 I was there for a few months. 1153 00:42:42,603 --> 00:42:44,823 I got to focus on myself, 1154 00:42:44,953 --> 00:42:49,262 and, uh, I needed that because I think, 1155 00:42:49,349 --> 00:42:52,047 my whole life, I distracted myself 1156 00:42:52,265 --> 00:42:54,440 and ran away from my issues 1157 00:42:54,441 --> 00:42:56,616 instead of facing them head on. 1158 00:42:56,617 --> 00:42:59,272 But now, I'm, um, better. 1159 00:42:59,359 --> 00:43:02,362 I'm in therapy, and I'm on medication. 1160 00:43:02,580 --> 00:43:04,756 I got diagnosed with BPD 1161 00:43:04,843 --> 00:43:07,323 when I was, um, in the hospital, 1162 00:43:07,541 --> 00:43:12,111 and, uh, yeah, I'm-I'm grateful that I'm here, 1163 00:43:12,328 --> 00:43:15,767 alive, 'cause I could have not been. 1164 00:43:15,854 --> 00:43:18,900 And, um, I'm thankful for just, like, 1165 00:43:19,031 --> 00:43:20,249 the support of my friends. 1166 00:43:20,380 --> 00:43:23,644 Like, everyone here has somewhat shown support 1167 00:43:23,862 --> 00:43:26,386 in their own way, so I appreciate that, 1168 00:43:26,516 --> 00:43:30,520 and, um, I'm very thankful that the audience is just, 1169 00:43:30,608 --> 00:43:34,002 um, embracing that because it's my truth. 1170 00:43:34,089 --> 00:43:37,179 You know, and I'm not gonna not be honest about 1171 00:43:37,266 --> 00:43:38,964 what I go through if-- 1172 00:43:39,138 --> 00:43:41,488 especially if it can help others. 1173 00:43:41,575 --> 00:43:43,055 - Thank you for sharing that. - Yeah, thanks. 1174 00:43:43,185 --> 00:43:45,144 - Yeah. - Love you, bro. Well said. 1175 00:43:45,361 --> 00:43:46,928 Jesse, I can see that you're moved. 1176 00:43:47,015 --> 00:43:48,537 I mean, it's a moving story. 1177 00:43:48,538 --> 00:43:51,019 I'm just-- I-I-- I feel for you, 1178 00:43:51,193 --> 00:43:52,891 and I'm-I'm glad you're-you're good 1179 00:43:53,108 --> 00:43:55,067 'cause I don't want anybody to go through that. 1180 00:43:55,197 --> 00:43:56,459 Thanks, man. 1181 00:43:56,677 --> 00:43:58,505 So, I'm happy he's feeling better. 1182 00:43:58,592 --> 00:43:59,680 Thank you. 1183 00:43:59,854 --> 00:44:00,941 You're gonna keep doing great stuff, man. 1184 00:44:00,942 --> 00:44:01,856 Yeah, thank you, everyone in this room. 1185 00:44:01,987 --> 00:44:03,118 No, we love you, dude, for real. 1186 00:44:03,205 --> 00:44:04,684 Seriously, thank you. 1187 00:44:04,685 --> 00:44:06,165 We're gonna take a break. 1188 00:44:06,252 --> 00:44:09,342 We'll be right back. 1189 00:44:18,438 --> 00:44:21,876 Five, four, three. 1190 00:44:22,007 --> 00:44:23,399 Welcome back. 1191 00:44:23,530 --> 00:44:25,140 Ciara vowed to go into this summer 1192 00:44:25,271 --> 00:44:26,794 with fewer walls up, 1193 00:44:26,925 --> 00:44:30,842 even as she successfully put a very meaningful roof 1194 00:44:30,972 --> 00:44:33,627 over her head in North Carolina. 1195 00:44:33,758 --> 00:44:36,412 And whether she was being a steady support system 1196 00:44:36,499 --> 00:44:40,199 for Amanda or reopening the door to West, 1197 00:44:40,329 --> 00:44:44,377 Ciara moved through the summer with a new level of grace. 1198 00:44:44,507 --> 00:44:47,119 Uh, Ciara, Bethany from Bend, Oregon said, 1199 00:44:47,249 --> 00:44:48,990 "Seeing you and your mom in North Carolina together 1200 00:44:49,121 --> 00:44:51,819 "was so intimate, and it showed us a side of you 1201 00:44:51,950 --> 00:44:53,473 "we've never really seen before, 1202 00:44:53,603 --> 00:44:57,433 "one rooted in family and breaking walls down.” 1203 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,306 I know where you came from, 1204 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:04,310 and I see where you are, and I'm just, you know, 1205 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:05,964 really proud of that. 1206 00:45:06,094 --> 00:45:07,879 Just keep-keep doing more. - Thanks, Sheila Miller. 1207 00:45:08,053 --> 00:45:09,576 Yes, keep doing more, dear. 1208 00:45:09,707 --> 00:45:12,579 What's the update on your grandparents' home? 1209 00:45:12,710 --> 00:45:15,364 I'm, uh, slowly doing renovations. 1210 00:45:15,538 --> 00:45:17,279 Um, I've honestly let my mom 1211 00:45:17,366 --> 00:45:18,759 kind of take over the project. 1212 00:45:18,890 --> 00:45:21,065 She loves this, like, home renovation field. 1213 00:45:21,066 --> 00:45:22,936 - Oh, good. - And she, like, 1214 00:45:22,937 --> 00:45:24,634 would call me a million times a day 1215 00:45:24,809 --> 00:45:26,245 about what I need to be doing, and I was like, 1216 00:45:26,375 --> 00:45:28,160 “Why don't you just do it, and I'll--" 1217 00:45:28,290 --> 00:45:29,074 I think that's amazing. 1218 00:45:29,204 --> 00:45:30,205 She's like your general contractor. 1219 00:45:30,292 --> 00:45:31,424 - Yeah, GM. - Just literally, like, 1220 00:45:31,511 --> 00:45:32,860 overseeing the whole thing. 1221 00:45:32,991 --> 00:45:34,427 Like, she got all the plumbing done in the house. 1222 00:45:34,514 --> 00:45:36,081 But, like, the house had mold. 1223 00:45:36,211 --> 00:45:37,212 It needed all new plumbing, electrical. 1224 00:45:37,343 --> 00:45:38,300 Oh, my God, yeah. 1225 00:45:38,431 --> 00:45:39,867 - Wow. - It needs foundation work. 1226 00:45:39,998 --> 00:45:42,000 But I'm really excited about the project, though. 1227 00:45:42,130 --> 00:45:43,392 - That's great. - And so is my mom, 1228 00:45:43,523 --> 00:45:44,611 even more than me. - That's great. 1229 00:45:44,742 --> 00:45:45,655 - Yeah. - Oh, that's good. 1230 00:45:45,786 --> 00:45:46,613 And she's a little closer than you. 1231 00:45:46,744 --> 00:45:47,266 So, it's gonna bring you together. 1232 00:45:47,353 --> 00:45:48,354 - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah. 1233 00:45:48,528 --> 00:45:49,094 Like, I think it'll be a great project 1234 00:45:49,181 --> 00:45:50,269 for the both of us, but, also, 1235 00:45:50,399 --> 00:45:51,749 we get to build new memories in this house, 1236 00:45:51,836 --> 00:45:53,446 as we build this house together. 1237 00:45:53,620 --> 00:45:55,013 So, yeah. 1238 00:45:55,100 --> 00:45:58,930 Did that trip home shift anything for you emotionally? 1239 00:45:59,017 --> 00:46:02,716 Yeah, it's like, this time is so short, like, 1240 00:46:02,847 --> 00:46:05,588 with your parents and-and in this life, 1241 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:09,505 and, like, even though, like, we have so many complexities 1242 00:46:09,592 --> 00:46:12,508 of, like, the family dynamics, it's, like, I love my mom, 1243 00:46:12,639 --> 00:46:15,729 and I want to be able to spend as much time with her 1244 00:46:15,860 --> 00:46:17,339 as I can, like, in the future, 1245 00:46:17,470 --> 00:46:19,037 and I want my kids to be close to her. 1246 00:46:19,167 --> 00:46:22,040 And I, like, want to create a space where, like, 1247 00:46:22,127 --> 00:46:25,434 people can come together, and it's, like, a position 1248 00:46:25,521 --> 00:46:26,522 I never thought I would never be in. 1249 00:46:26,609 --> 00:46:27,872 So, it was nice. 1250 00:46:28,002 --> 00:46:28,829 Mia, you were the one 1251 00:46:29,047 --> 00:46:30,222 who really pulled back the curtain 1252 00:46:30,396 --> 00:46:33,094 on how big of a deal the house was for Ciara. 1253 00:46:33,225 --> 00:46:35,618 Why was it important for the group to understand 1254 00:46:35,749 --> 00:46:37,969 what she went through to get here? 1255 00:46:38,056 --> 00:46:42,756 I think, at times, Ciara downplays her success, 1256 00:46:42,887 --> 00:46:44,366 which I can't stand. Stop doing that. 1257 00:46:44,453 --> 00:46:46,281 Okay, sorry. 1258 00:46:46,368 --> 00:46:49,197 I was with her throughout the entire process. 1259 00:46:49,328 --> 00:46:51,765 To see her actually purchase this home 1260 00:46:51,896 --> 00:46:53,635 was a huge deal for Ciara, and I just-- 1261 00:46:53,636 --> 00:46:54,855 I needed you to know that. 1262 00:46:54,942 --> 00:46:57,336 - Yeah. I love you. - Did, um-- 1263 00:46:57,466 --> 00:46:59,555 Ciara, Sydney from Belmar, New Jersey said, 1264 00:46:59,686 --> 00:47:01,122 "Not a question but as a Black woman, 1265 00:47:01,209 --> 00:47:04,082 "I need to say it's a feat to go from being capital 1266 00:47:04,212 --> 00:47:07,128 "to owning capital, only five or so generations 1267 00:47:07,259 --> 00:47:08,738 "separated from slavery. 1268 00:47:08,826 --> 00:47:11,698 "I hope you're proud of yourself." 1269 00:47:11,829 --> 00:47:14,135 That's awesome. 1270 00:47:14,266 --> 00:47:15,876 - That's really sweet. - Yeah, I'm proud of you. 1271 00:47:16,094 --> 00:47:17,922 - Thanks. - I see how hard you work, 1272 00:47:18,052 --> 00:47:20,011 and you're very humble. 1273 00:47:20,228 --> 00:47:22,491 I look up to you a lot, and I want my younger sisters 1274 00:47:22,622 --> 00:47:25,581 to be like you. - Thanks, KJ. 1275 00:47:25,668 --> 00:47:28,106 That's sweet. 1276 00:47:28,323 --> 00:47:30,063 West, was it tough to hear about the house 1277 00:47:30,064 --> 00:47:33,633 and not be able to share in her joy? 1278 00:47:33,851 --> 00:47:35,156 Yeah, originally, I didn't know about it. 1279 00:47:35,287 --> 00:47:39,508 And, uh, just knowing Ciara well enough to know 1280 00:47:39,682 --> 00:47:42,468 how important sentimental stuff like that is, yeah, 1281 00:47:42,555 --> 00:47:45,950 I was kind of out of the loop, but, uh, 1282 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:47,647 towards the end of the summer, I ended up getting to-- 1283 00:47:47,777 --> 00:47:49,083 we had a conversation about the house, 1284 00:47:49,257 --> 00:47:53,522 and that, like, helped bring me up to speed. 1285 00:47:53,653 --> 00:47:56,917 Ciara, what made you soften at the end of the summer, 1286 00:47:57,004 --> 00:48:00,703 um, and go from being completely done with West 1287 00:48:00,790 --> 00:48:02,967 to your emotional conversation 1288 00:48:03,054 --> 00:48:07,797 where you kind of let him back in, in a way? 1289 00:48:07,928 --> 00:48:08,929 Um... 1290 00:48:09,016 --> 00:48:11,627 I don't want everyone to think 1291 00:48:11,801 --> 00:48:13,280 that I have this hard exterior, 1292 00:48:13,281 --> 00:48:14,979 and that's, like, all there is to me. 1293 00:48:15,109 --> 00:48:17,938 Like, I just have-- - You've been hardened. 1294 00:48:18,069 --> 00:48:20,854 It's just been hardened, and I'm tired of giving people 1295 00:48:20,985 --> 00:48:23,683 chances to, like, me over. 1296 00:48:23,770 --> 00:48:26,294 So, that final night, um, of the summer, 1297 00:48:26,425 --> 00:48:28,296 the two of you made out in the backyard. 1298 00:48:28,470 --> 00:48:29,776 In the backyard. 1299 00:48:35,956 --> 00:48:39,046 Yeah, it was, like, ear-- it was, like, ear stuff. 1300 00:48:39,177 --> 00:48:41,222 Ear stuff? Is that what you said? 1301 00:48:41,396 --> 00:48:42,310 I believe so. 1302 00:48:42,528 --> 00:48:44,051 - Ear stuff? - What does that mean? 1303 00:48:44,182 --> 00:48:45,618 - Ear? Like ear licking? - Like, kissing the ears? 1304 00:48:45,792 --> 00:48:46,880 - Just, like-- - Like, eyes, nose, 1305 00:48:47,098 --> 00:48:47,968 ears, and toes? Ears? - To be honest, that-- 1306 00:48:48,099 --> 00:48:49,491 That revs my engine. So, I get it. 1307 00:48:49,665 --> 00:48:50,665 Lobes and stuff. 1308 00:48:50,666 --> 00:48:53,843 Were you aware that they were, like, 1309 00:48:53,974 --> 00:48:57,325 canoodling that last weekend? - Not to that extent, no. 1310 00:48:57,456 --> 00:48:58,848 But can I be, like, a super, like-- 1311 00:48:58,979 --> 00:49:01,547 put my tinfoil cap on here? 1312 00:49:01,764 --> 00:49:03,897 Are you kind of breadcrumbing the audience? 1313 00:49:04,115 --> 00:49:05,898 Sometimes it seems like you know what to say 1314 00:49:05,899 --> 00:49:07,379 to win people over. 1315 00:49:07,466 --> 00:49:10,860 Your friends, Ciara, the audience, uh, if you're-- 1316 00:49:10,948 --> 00:49:12,123 are you kind of gettin' what I'm getting? 1317 00:49:12,297 --> 00:49:13,428 - Yeah, I agree. - Okay. 1318 00:49:13,559 --> 00:49:14,821 Yeah, like, I do feel like, at this point-- 1319 00:49:14,952 --> 00:49:16,040 - Like, was it all bullsh--? - Yeah, was it all bullsh--? 1320 00:49:16,170 --> 00:49:19,608 You used it for a storyline 'cause, like, honestly, 1321 00:49:19,739 --> 00:49:22,916 you and Amanda feels like the best type of revenge 1322 00:49:23,003 --> 00:49:25,919 that you could execute. 1323 00:49:26,050 --> 00:49:27,399 And, honestly... 1324 00:49:27,529 --> 00:49:29,140 claps to you. 1325 00:49:33,622 --> 00:49:36,060 You and Amanda feels like the best type of revenge 1326 00:49:36,190 --> 00:49:37,539 that you could execute. 1327 00:49:37,713 --> 00:49:40,716 And, honestly, claps to you. 1328 00:49:40,890 --> 00:49:42,588 I genuinely felt that when West was saying 1329 00:49:42,718 --> 00:49:44,416 these things to me, and-and when you guys-- 1330 00:49:44,503 --> 00:49:45,939 I genuinely felt-- - Yeah. 1331 00:49:46,026 --> 00:49:46,853 But at no point did I say we're gonna date again, 1332 00:49:46,984 --> 00:49:48,159 or I'm pursuing her. - No. 1333 00:49:48,333 --> 00:49:49,769 I said-- I gave you compliments, 1334 00:49:49,899 --> 00:49:51,684 and I do look up to you. I think you're great. 1335 00:49:51,814 --> 00:49:52,946 We had a great time together. 1336 00:49:53,077 --> 00:49:56,036 At no point have I said, "I'm trying to get Ciara back. 1337 00:49:56,167 --> 00:49:58,343 "We're going to date, again." - But the actions. 1338 00:49:58,473 --> 00:50:00,693 - No, like, I understand. - You're so full of sh--. 1339 00:50:00,867 --> 00:50:03,870 He told Ben that he had a crush on me. 1340 00:50:07,874 --> 00:50:09,180 What? Wait, what? 1341 00:50:09,310 --> 00:50:11,095 What we talk about in the----ing walls 1342 00:50:11,269 --> 00:50:14,185 of my apartment stays in the----ing apartment. 1343 00:50:14,272 --> 00:50:15,795 And that when we were together, 1344 00:50:15,925 --> 00:50:17,362 it was magic. 1345 00:50:17,536 --> 00:50:19,712 When Ciara and I were, like, together, 1346 00:50:19,842 --> 00:50:21,105 it was, like, dreamy. 1347 00:50:21,279 --> 00:50:23,194 She's unreal, so I can-- I, like, I-I know why. 1348 00:50:23,324 --> 00:50:25,587 I know. 1349 00:50:25,761 --> 00:50:27,546 He was sad, and depressed, and all these things 1350 00:50:27,633 --> 00:50:29,287 that he expressed towards Ben this summer. 1351 00:50:29,417 --> 00:50:31,158 Can-can I ask you a question, West? 1352 00:50:31,245 --> 00:50:34,074 Honestly, like, hearing all of this, 1353 00:50:34,205 --> 00:50:36,946 and you saying what you said to Ben about 1354 00:50:37,034 --> 00:50:39,340 it's magic with Ciara, all of these things, 1355 00:50:39,427 --> 00:50:40,994 did you really mean that? 1356 00:50:41,125 --> 00:50:42,082 Yeah, I wouldn't-- I wouldn't lie 1357 00:50:42,213 --> 00:50:43,518 about our relationship being great, 1358 00:50:43,605 --> 00:50:46,956 but I also recognized, in that time, 1359 00:50:47,087 --> 00:50:48,958 I was not gonna be what Ciara needed, 1360 00:50:49,046 --> 00:50:50,699 and we ended it. 1361 00:50:50,786 --> 00:50:52,005 We got a dinner right after summer, 1362 00:50:52,136 --> 00:50:55,095 and I told Ciara, uh, what my plans were, 1363 00:50:55,269 --> 00:50:57,837 and how-how much I learned the first time 1364 00:50:57,924 --> 00:51:01,145 from what affected Ciara, and that I wasn't going to 1365 00:51:01,275 --> 00:51:03,973 just jump down that rabbit hole, again. 1366 00:51:04,061 --> 00:51:06,454 It's hard to ignore the sexual tension, 1367 00:51:06,585 --> 00:51:09,109 but I am not trying to portray... 1368 00:51:09,283 --> 00:51:11,285 - Yeah. - ...that I am a boyfriend. 1369 00:51:11,416 --> 00:51:15,072 But the last thing I want, is her----ing heart broken. 1370 00:51:15,202 --> 00:51:17,161 I know a lot of things that can be casual for me 1371 00:51:17,291 --> 00:51:20,990 are not casual for Ciara, and we had that conversation. 1372 00:51:21,165 --> 00:51:23,776 Um, and I've made plenty of mistakes along the way, 1373 00:51:23,906 --> 00:51:25,778 but I was very proactive 1374 00:51:25,952 --> 00:51:28,259 in trying to protect our friendship 1375 00:51:28,346 --> 00:51:31,436 and not, uh, send wrong messages. 1376 00:51:31,566 --> 00:51:32,437 The wrong message. 1377 00:51:32,611 --> 00:51:33,916 What was that different approach? 1378 00:51:34,003 --> 00:51:38,573 I mean, not having sex was huge. 1379 00:51:38,747 --> 00:51:40,053 You can't act like we weren't 1380 00:51:40,184 --> 00:51:42,142 sending flirty text messages and, like-- 1381 00:51:42,316 --> 00:51:44,275 We communicated significantly less. 1382 00:51:44,362 --> 00:51:45,493 - Yeah. - And I think we had-- 1383 00:51:45,667 --> 00:51:47,843 you slept over one time since summer ended. 1384 00:51:48,017 --> 00:51:49,280 - Twice. - West, can I ask you a question? 1385 00:51:49,367 --> 00:51:50,194 - I think-- - What's stronger? 1386 00:51:50,324 --> 00:51:52,283 When you just have sex with somebody, 1387 00:51:52,457 --> 00:51:53,849 or when you have an emotional connection 1388 00:51:53,980 --> 00:51:55,329 with somebody, what's stronger? 1389 00:51:55,460 --> 00:51:58,506 - Emotional. - Okay, thank you. 1390 00:51:58,637 --> 00:52:01,379 But, also, I spent the night twice. 1391 00:52:01,509 --> 00:52:03,250 So, you don't think you and Ciara 1392 00:52:03,337 --> 00:52:06,210 having sleepovers this fall and still just kissing, 1393 00:52:06,384 --> 00:52:08,212 not having sex, that wasn't a strong connection? 1394 00:52:08,299 --> 00:52:09,169 That wasn't important? 1395 00:52:09,300 --> 00:52:10,431 That wasn't something to consider? 1396 00:52:10,562 --> 00:52:13,434 Our chemistry, for sure, is-- uh, obviously, 1397 00:52:13,608 --> 00:52:14,783 we didn't talk for two years, and we were kind of, like, 1398 00:52:14,914 --> 00:52:16,916 right back in it. That is a real thing. 1399 00:52:17,046 --> 00:52:19,353 And I fell short in those moments. 1400 00:52:19,484 --> 00:52:21,007 I will acknowledge that. 1401 00:52:21,138 --> 00:52:23,227 But there are numerous times where I tried to make steps 1402 00:52:23,314 --> 00:52:26,708 to not allow us to get to a romantic place 1403 00:52:26,795 --> 00:52:29,189 or a physical place and keep it as friends 1404 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,757 because I wanted to be your friend and not-- 1405 00:52:31,887 --> 00:52:35,064 and I learned the first summer-- - We didn't see that. 1406 00:52:35,152 --> 00:52:36,805 - Say it, again. - I said we didn't see that. 1407 00:52:36,936 --> 00:52:38,155 Yeah, no, and at that end of summer, 1408 00:52:38,285 --> 00:52:40,853 I know it got romantic, again, the last weekend, 1409 00:52:40,983 --> 00:52:42,985 and I take accountability for that, for sure. 1410 00:52:43,116 --> 00:52:45,162 But even in just trying to be friends, 1411 00:52:45,336 --> 00:52:47,338 this is what you do to your friends. 1412 00:52:47,425 --> 00:52:49,078 West, you're so----ing good. 1413 00:52:49,209 --> 00:52:50,471 - You're really good. - You're so-- I'm-I'm, like, 1414 00:52:50,645 --> 00:52:51,690 getting pulled into you, right now. 1415 00:52:51,777 --> 00:52:53,344 - Yeah. - And I can catch myself. 1416 00:52:53,474 --> 00:52:56,782 - Yeah. - You're so----ing good. 1417 00:52:56,912 --> 00:52:58,827 You're good at pulling girls. 1418 00:52:58,958 --> 00:53:02,483 Do whatever you need to do to climb the ladder. 1419 00:53:02,657 --> 00:53:03,919 - Yeah. - To clout chase, 1420 00:53:04,050 --> 00:53:06,052 to get to wherever you----ing need to go. 1421 00:53:06,226 --> 00:53:08,402 - And then you drop 'em. - And then, boom. 1422 00:53:08,533 --> 00:53:10,056 They don't work for you. 1423 00:53:10,230 --> 00:53:12,624 They don't serve what you need to be served, 1424 00:53:12,754 --> 00:53:15,235 and you drop them. 1425 00:53:15,322 --> 00:53:17,672 You're gonna do the same - ing thing to Amanda 1426 00:53:17,846 --> 00:53:21,894 when this is not working out, because it's not going to, 1427 00:53:22,024 --> 00:53:23,678 and you're not gonna be able to handle it, West, 1428 00:53:23,852 --> 00:53:26,507 because you're a----ing toddler. 1429 00:53:26,638 --> 00:53:28,379 Or maybe they'll be together, because I honestly think 1430 00:53:28,553 --> 00:53:30,511 that the best, like, woman for West 1431 00:53:30,685 --> 00:53:32,774 is, like, someone who's not gonna check him on anything, 1432 00:53:32,948 --> 00:53:34,298 and that's totally Amanda. 1433 00:53:34,428 --> 00:53:35,516 - Oof. - Like, she's very mute. 1434 00:53:35,647 --> 00:53:37,866 She's gonna be that weak figure that he needs, 1435 00:53:37,997 --> 00:53:40,434 and he can always be the star in-in the relationship. 1436 00:53:40,521 --> 00:53:43,350 So, I actually think, like, maybe it could work. 1437 00:53:51,837 --> 00:53:53,534 That's your wife. She's not my wife. 1438 00:53:53,665 --> 00:53:55,580 I'm just-- yeah.