1 00:00:07,485 --> 00:00:08,616 Wait, I didn't get lips. 2 00:00:08,617 --> 00:00:10,488 How are my lips? - They look good. 3 00:00:10,706 --> 00:00:12,229 Okay, so, the next day-- 4 00:00:12,447 --> 00:00:14,405 Oh, wait, can you see my pit stains, or no? 5 00:00:14,623 --> 00:00:16,016 No, the shirt totally hides out. 6 00:00:16,190 --> 00:00:18,018 Oh, it does. 7 00:00:18,192 --> 00:00:20,150 Comin'! Come on in. 8 00:00:21,543 --> 00:00:23,762 - Hey. - Hey. 9 00:00:23,980 --> 00:00:26,896 Um, I think you should check your phone. 10 00:00:27,070 --> 00:00:28,550 Jesus fuck. 11 00:00:30,030 --> 00:00:31,292 Oh, my God. 12 00:00:31,509 --> 00:00:33,816 You done your interview, or just starting? 13 00:00:34,034 --> 00:00:36,514 No, I'm-I'm not. Just starting. 14 00:00:36,732 --> 00:00:38,167 Oh, fuck, it's-- all right. 15 00:00:38,168 --> 00:00:39,822 I haven't read-- I haven't read it yet. - Okay. 16 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:41,171 Do you wanna read it to me? 17 00:00:41,389 --> 00:00:42,912 Okay. 18 00:00:43,086 --> 00:00:45,741 For the love of God. 19 00:00:45,958 --> 00:00:49,049 "We've seen the growing online speculation, 20 00:00:49,223 --> 00:00:51,529 so while it is still very new, 21 00:00:51,747 --> 00:00:53,966 we wanted to provide some clarity." 22 00:00:54,141 --> 00:00:55,577 - Oh, my God. - "We've shown up for each other 23 00:00:55,794 --> 00:00:56,882 as friends over the years 24 00:00:57,057 --> 00:00:59,146 through all of the highs and lows, 25 00:00:59,363 --> 00:01:00,582 and what's developed recently 26 00:01:00,799 --> 00:01:03,237 was the last thing either of us expected. 27 00:01:03,454 --> 00:01:04,934 Our connection grew out of a genuine 28 00:01:05,108 --> 00:01:06,631 long-standing friendship, 29 00:01:06,849 --> 00:01:08,503 which made it especially important for us 30 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:10,244 to approach this with care." 31 00:01:13,247 --> 00:01:16,424 None of this makes sense. It's all not what happened. 32 00:01:21,124 --> 00:01:22,256 Hey. 33 00:01:23,605 --> 00:01:24,780 - Oh, you're on speaker. - Hi. 34 00:01:30,307 --> 00:01:31,482 Hold on. Let me-- Let me add Mia in. 35 00:01:31,700 --> 00:01:33,004 Hold on. 36 00:01:33,005 --> 00:01:35,095 - Hi. - Oh, wait, where did Jesse go? 37 00:01:35,269 --> 00:01:36,705 Oh, Jesse's here. Okay. 38 00:01:36,922 --> 00:01:38,141 I'm here with Kyle. 39 00:01:38,359 --> 00:01:39,707 Mia, thank you for-- 40 00:01:39,708 --> 00:01:41,710 Thank you for texting. I-I meant to respond. 41 00:01:49,587 --> 00:01:50,632 I did-- 42 00:01:50,849 --> 00:01:52,112 I did talk to Amanda last night, 43 00:01:52,286 --> 00:01:54,026 and West texted me an hour ago, 44 00:01:54,201 --> 00:01:57,813 which was clearly a check the box text. 45 00:01:58,030 --> 00:02:00,032 When I say-- 46 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,733 I consider myself pretty close to West. 47 00:02:04,950 --> 00:02:05,995 I was literally at his parents' house 48 00:02:06,169 --> 00:02:07,127 and his dad's ranch. 49 00:02:07,301 --> 00:02:08,649 Yeah. 50 00:02:08,650 --> 00:02:11,000 Like, we-we went to Toronto together. Like-- 51 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:13,784 Carl's calling. 52 00:02:13,785 --> 00:02:14,525 Yeah, Carl. Well, here, we'll get Carl. 53 00:02:14,743 --> 00:02:15,787 Oh, patch him in. 54 00:02:16,005 --> 00:02:17,179 Here, you can probably hear. 55 00:02:17,180 --> 00:02:18,312 Here, we'll put the phones together. 56 00:02:18,529 --> 00:02:20,270 - Hey. - Hey, Kyle. 57 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,101 I mean, nothing can kinda prepare you for this. 58 00:02:27,538 --> 00:02:28,625 You were pickin' up on just, like, 59 00:02:28,626 --> 00:02:30,193 inappropriateness, like, how touchy 60 00:02:30,411 --> 00:02:31,412 and handsy he's been. 61 00:02:33,065 --> 00:02:33,936 No, as someone's-- 62 00:02:44,207 --> 00:02:46,122 I think she is hurtin'. 63 00:03:05,924 --> 00:03:09,537 Now, it's, like, when did this start? 64 00:03:11,626 --> 00:03:12,975 Amanda tried to play it off last night 65 00:03:13,193 --> 00:03:14,716 like it's only been happening for a month. 66 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:21,244 I will say, there were blinds 67 00:03:21,462 --> 00:03:23,420 going back to June 2025. 68 00:03:27,685 --> 00:03:29,992 I don't know what Amanda and West can say 69 00:03:30,210 --> 00:03:33,648 to, like, recover. 70 00:03:54,495 --> 00:03:56,105 Thank you. 71 00:03:56,279 --> 00:03:57,237 Thank you. 72 00:04:00,327 --> 00:04:01,980 Thank you. 73 00:04:09,249 --> 00:04:10,467 What are you wearing? 74 00:04:10,685 --> 00:04:11,860 Olive green, like, long-- 75 00:04:12,077 --> 00:04:12,861 What color are you wearing? 76 00:04:13,078 --> 00:04:14,863 - Red. - Ooh, ooh. 77 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:16,343 I'm the devil you don't wanna know. 78 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,083 Ooh! 79 00:04:22,087 --> 00:04:24,046 Thank you. 80 00:04:24,264 --> 00:04:26,222 Is everyone in here today? 81 00:04:26,396 --> 00:04:27,962 No, I think West and Amanda are-- 82 00:04:27,963 --> 00:04:29,356 I saw their names on that dressing room, right there. 83 00:04:29,573 --> 00:04:30,574 Oh. 84 00:04:31,706 --> 00:04:33,229 That's an adjustment for me. 85 00:04:35,275 --> 00:04:37,451 I've been on this for ten years, from the beginning. 86 00:04:37,668 --> 00:04:39,148 What's been going on the last month and half 87 00:04:39,322 --> 00:04:40,627 and two months 88 00:04:40,628 --> 00:04:44,022 is unlike anything we've ever experienced. 89 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:45,459 The last two weeks even, 90 00:04:45,676 --> 00:04:46,764 the baseball game and that shit, 91 00:04:46,982 --> 00:04:48,462 is just so fucking weird. 92 00:04:48,679 --> 00:04:50,507 The same day, Ciara's cover came out. 93 00:04:50,725 --> 00:04:53,858 Embarrassing. He's so fucked up. 94 00:04:54,076 --> 00:04:55,469 I was supposed to go to that game with West. 95 00:04:55,686 --> 00:04:56,817 You were? 96 00:04:56,818 --> 00:04:58,079 Yeah, it was a Kansas City game. 97 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:59,690 Why didn't you end up going to the game? 98 00:04:59,908 --> 00:05:01,170 We're not friends anymore. 99 00:05:03,303 --> 00:05:05,305 It hurts. I considered him a brother. 100 00:05:08,830 --> 00:05:09,831 Oh! 101 00:05:11,789 --> 00:05:13,008 Never been in this room before. 102 00:05:13,225 --> 00:05:14,487 How are you? 103 00:05:14,488 --> 00:05:16,403 Yeah, you're normally with the boys. Hi. 104 00:05:16,620 --> 00:05:17,969 - Are we across from them? - Yeah. 105 00:05:18,187 --> 00:05:19,971 Sweet. 106 00:05:21,973 --> 00:05:23,758 All right. What's up? - Nothing. 107 00:05:23,975 --> 00:05:24,889 I just don't know if I can't breathe 108 00:05:25,107 --> 00:05:26,194 'cause I'm, like, anxious 109 00:05:26,195 --> 00:05:27,762 or 'cause my corset is so tight. 110 00:05:27,979 --> 00:05:29,416 Probably both. 111 00:05:32,549 --> 00:05:33,768 Thank you, sir. 112 00:05:41,297 --> 00:05:42,603 - You okay? - Yeah, I'm good. 113 00:05:42,820 --> 00:05:46,433 I actually-- I-I feel... Zen. 114 00:05:48,217 --> 00:05:49,871 I'm happy that Ciara's gonna get a moment 115 00:05:50,088 --> 00:05:51,742 to, like, really speak her peace, 116 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:53,091 and I'm-I'm just-- - Oh, I think we're gonna 117 00:05:53,309 --> 00:05:54,397 have a lot of moments. 118 00:05:56,051 --> 00:05:58,009 How are you? 119 00:05:58,227 --> 00:05:59,924 - I've had better days. - Yeah. 120 00:06:00,142 --> 00:06:01,535 How are you feeling? 121 00:06:01,752 --> 00:06:03,450 Um... 122 00:06:13,677 --> 00:06:17,202 Who do you feel more betrayed by? 123 00:06:17,377 --> 00:06:20,858 - Amanda. - Yeah. 124 00:06:21,076 --> 00:06:26,473 Like, I mean, I'm shocked by West, 125 00:06:26,690 --> 00:06:30,607 but I'm also really hurt by Amanda. 126 00:06:30,825 --> 00:06:34,829 Is there a question that you really-- 127 00:06:35,046 --> 00:06:36,177 - I mean-- - Like, is there-- 128 00:06:36,178 --> 00:06:37,832 Is there one thing that's the most 129 00:06:38,049 --> 00:06:40,530 kind of glaring to you? 130 00:06:40,748 --> 00:06:45,013 Um, well, I really-- it's really just, like, why. 131 00:06:45,230 --> 00:06:48,582 Right, right. 132 00:06:48,799 --> 00:06:49,757 Why? 133 00:07:11,431 --> 00:07:13,781 How do you think this is gonna go? 134 00:07:13,998 --> 00:07:15,783 There's nothing new that can be told today. 135 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,174 Like, the truth is already out there. 136 00:07:17,175 --> 00:07:18,960 - So... - Yeah, it's just gonna be, 137 00:07:19,177 --> 00:07:22,659 like, shutting down the rumors. 138 00:07:22,877 --> 00:07:24,879 How are you feeling about seeing Ciara tonight? 139 00:07:27,403 --> 00:07:28,708 I mean, there's a lot of guilt. 140 00:07:28,709 --> 00:07:31,189 Like, that's my friend, and I-- it kills me 141 00:07:31,407 --> 00:07:33,714 that, like, I'm the one that caused her any pain. 142 00:07:35,716 --> 00:07:36,890 By the way, I sent you a text. 143 00:07:36,891 --> 00:07:38,240 - Hmm? - I saw you starting to type, 144 00:07:38,458 --> 00:07:39,588 and then you didn't. 145 00:07:39,589 --> 00:07:40,938 'Cause I finished the last episode, 146 00:07:41,156 --> 00:07:42,636 and I, like, was, like-- 147 00:07:42,853 --> 00:07:44,027 - It was a lot. - It was-- it was a lot. 148 00:07:44,028 --> 00:07:45,987 I will say, those last two episodes, 149 00:07:46,204 --> 00:07:47,771 uh, that was, like, the toughest reunion prep 150 00:07:47,989 --> 00:07:49,338 I've ever gone through. - Yeah. 151 00:07:49,512 --> 00:07:50,686 I don't think that people understood. 152 00:07:50,687 --> 00:07:52,428 I was like, yo, I am bottoming out. 153 00:07:52,602 --> 00:07:54,212 Like-like-- - Yeah, we could see. 154 00:07:54,430 --> 00:07:55,604 Yeah. Can I say sorry 155 00:07:55,605 --> 00:07:57,302 'cause I-I don't even think I realized 156 00:07:57,477 --> 00:07:58,782 how much you were bottoming out? 157 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,916 Oh... - Give me a hug. 158 00:08:02,133 --> 00:08:03,787 I was-- I, again, I just felt misunderstood 159 00:08:04,005 --> 00:08:05,093 the whole summer. Don't cry. 160 00:08:05,310 --> 00:08:06,834 But, no, I know, and I'm sorry 161 00:08:07,051 --> 00:08:08,269 'cause I feel like 162 00:08:08,270 --> 00:08:11,229 I really misunderstood you this summer. 163 00:08:11,447 --> 00:08:13,405 Don't cry. It's okay. We got all day. 164 00:08:13,580 --> 00:08:17,366 I love you. We're gonna do great. 165 00:08:17,540 --> 00:08:19,324 Mm-hmm. We're not gonna get mad. 166 00:08:19,499 --> 00:08:20,803 We're not gonna storm off. 167 00:08:20,804 --> 00:08:23,024 No storming. I'm not gonna touch alcohol. 168 00:08:23,241 --> 00:08:25,505 I'm not gonna-- I'm not gonna cry. 169 00:08:25,679 --> 00:08:26,549 Well, pfft. 170 00:08:26,767 --> 00:08:28,725 Well... 171 00:08:28,943 --> 00:08:33,600 Well, you two seem very calm. 172 00:08:33,817 --> 00:08:34,949 Yeah, there's no other way to be. 173 00:08:35,166 --> 00:08:36,471 We're trying to be. Yeah. 174 00:08:36,472 --> 00:08:37,472 Okay, I'll see you guys in a minute. Okay. 175 00:08:37,473 --> 00:08:38,822 - All right. Bye, Andy. - Okay. 176 00:08:42,217 --> 00:08:44,741 - Not bad. - That's nothin'. 177 00:08:58,189 --> 00:08:59,495 - This one? - How's it going, Bailey? 178 00:08:59,669 --> 00:09:00,801 Good! 179 00:09:01,018 --> 00:09:03,325 - Hey, Andy. - Carl, my Carl. 180 00:09:03,543 --> 00:09:04,935 I'm gonna give you a hug. You look so fuckin' hot. 181 00:09:05,153 --> 00:09:06,153 Oh, my God, thank you. 182 00:09:06,154 --> 00:09:07,547 - You look great. - Thank you. 183 00:09:07,721 --> 00:09:08,809 Fly is up. That's a good-- 184 00:09:09,026 --> 00:09:10,636 That's a good thing. 185 00:09:10,637 --> 00:09:12,334 I've gotta sit over here, it looks like next to West. 186 00:09:12,552 --> 00:09:14,466 Aren't you glad to be sitting there and not here? 187 00:09:14,641 --> 00:09:15,554 Yes. 188 00:09:15,555 --> 00:09:16,643 Let me get the vibes here. 189 00:09:16,860 --> 00:09:18,079 Our backyard. 190 00:09:18,296 --> 00:09:20,429 It's always, like, incredibly detailed. 191 00:09:20,603 --> 00:09:21,821 Hey, Ben. 192 00:09:21,822 --> 00:09:23,126 - Andy, how are you, mate? - Hey, mate. 193 00:09:23,127 --> 00:09:24,084 - How are you doing, mate? - What's up, mate? 194 00:09:24,085 --> 00:09:24,998 - Looking fresh. - Yeah, yeah. 195 00:09:24,999 --> 00:09:26,129 - What a nice suit. - Hello. 196 00:09:26,130 --> 00:09:27,392 - How ya doin'? - Good. How are you? 197 00:09:27,567 --> 00:09:29,090 - You look great. - Thank you. 198 00:09:29,307 --> 00:09:31,571 ♪ What a day What a day ♪ 199 00:09:31,788 --> 00:09:33,137 My friend in Idaho was singing your song 200 00:09:33,355 --> 00:09:34,398 the other day, and I was like, 201 00:09:34,399 --> 00:09:35,531 "Are you singing Jesse Solomon?" 202 00:09:35,705 --> 00:09:36,924 And she was like, "It's stuck in my head." 203 00:09:37,141 --> 00:09:38,621 - Made it to Idaho. - You've hit Idaho. 204 00:09:38,839 --> 00:09:40,056 Bumfuck Idaho, 205 00:09:40,057 --> 00:09:41,188 like, in the middle of nowhere, Idaho. 206 00:09:41,189 --> 00:09:43,017 - They got Internet there? - Exactly! 207 00:09:43,234 --> 00:09:45,062 - Wow! - Good Lord. 208 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:46,760 Why are you in a revenge dress? 209 00:09:46,977 --> 00:09:47,978 Yeah. 210 00:09:48,196 --> 00:09:48,979 Well, I had to make up for Kyle. 211 00:09:49,197 --> 00:09:50,371 Oh. 212 00:09:50,372 --> 00:09:51,415 Yeah, I can't wear the revenge dress 213 00:09:51,416 --> 00:09:52,113 that people photoshopped me in. 214 00:09:52,330 --> 00:09:54,070 So... 215 00:09:54,071 --> 00:09:55,158 Kyle, you look-- you looked good in it. I'm not gonna lie. 216 00:09:55,159 --> 00:09:56,334 The best part is, I had the mullet. 217 00:09:56,552 --> 00:09:57,727 That was really funny. 218 00:09:57,945 --> 00:09:59,294 Oh, my goodness, look at this girl. 219 00:09:59,511 --> 00:10:01,078 Yes! 220 00:10:01,296 --> 00:10:03,037 - Thank you, guys. - Get over here. 221 00:10:03,254 --> 00:10:04,734 Are you-- are you next to me? - I love it. 222 00:10:04,952 --> 00:10:06,475 The calm before the storm. 223 00:10:06,649 --> 00:10:07,737 Yeah, literally. 224 00:10:12,612 --> 00:10:14,396 - Watch your step. - Yeah, thank you. 225 00:10:16,441 --> 00:10:18,313 - Hi. - Hi, Andy. 226 00:10:18,530 --> 00:10:21,098 - You look beautiful. - Thank you so much. 227 00:10:21,316 --> 00:10:22,839 - Have a seat. - Hello, hello. 228 00:10:25,059 --> 00:10:27,191 Okay. 229 00:10:27,409 --> 00:10:29,541 Well... 230 00:10:29,716 --> 00:10:30,717 I like the butter yellow. 231 00:10:30,934 --> 00:10:32,022 Thank you so much. 232 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,416 You guys look beautiful. - So do you. 233 00:10:34,634 --> 00:10:35,504 - You look pretty. - Thank you. 234 00:10:45,427 --> 00:10:46,733 - Hi, Westling. - Hello, Andrew. 235 00:10:46,950 --> 00:10:47,995 How are you? - I'm good. 236 00:10:48,212 --> 00:10:50,824 How are you? 237 00:10:51,041 --> 00:10:52,826 Did you put in sweat guards? 238 00:10:53,043 --> 00:10:54,001 Yeah, there's four of 'em. 239 00:10:54,218 --> 00:10:55,392 - Four of 'em? - Yeah. 240 00:10:55,393 --> 00:10:57,091 - Okay. - You might need some more. 241 00:10:57,308 --> 00:11:00,050 Five, six-- I got more. It was a 50-pack. 242 00:11:00,268 --> 00:11:02,531 - Okay. - Yeah. 243 00:11:02,705 --> 00:11:03,967 Not fair. 244 00:11:04,185 --> 00:11:05,360 - What? - Don't make me laugh. 245 00:11:05,577 --> 00:11:06,578 Oh. 246 00:11:11,932 --> 00:11:13,542 All rise. 247 00:11:13,716 --> 00:11:16,371 Wow! 248 00:11:16,588 --> 00:11:17,415 Okay. 249 00:11:17,633 --> 00:11:19,200 - Hi. - Hi. 250 00:11:19,417 --> 00:11:21,245 Oh, my God, Jessica Rabbit. 251 00:11:21,463 --> 00:11:22,985 - I said Jessica Rabbit, too. - Holy shit. 252 00:11:22,986 --> 00:11:27,512 I feel like Jabba the Hut, and you're Princess Leia. 253 00:11:27,687 --> 00:11:29,471 - Looking beautiful. - Thanks. 254 00:11:29,689 --> 00:11:31,429 I like the suit. I like this casual. 255 00:11:31,647 --> 00:11:33,040 We have two minutes, everyone. 256 00:11:46,706 --> 00:11:48,359 I love you too. 257 00:11:50,231 --> 00:11:51,188 Hi, Ben. 258 00:11:55,715 --> 00:11:57,629 I just got a text that someone hacked my phone, 259 00:11:57,804 --> 00:11:59,588 and there's nudes of me, 260 00:11:59,762 --> 00:12:01,895 uh, being sent around Missouri. 261 00:12:02,112 --> 00:12:05,899 So, it's a good text to get right before this. 262 00:12:06,116 --> 00:12:07,639 Wow, when it rains, it pours. 263 00:12:07,814 --> 00:12:08,597 We already heard about it this morning. 264 00:12:08,771 --> 00:12:10,860 Wait, really? 265 00:12:11,078 --> 00:12:12,296 Huh. 266 00:12:12,514 --> 00:12:14,908 It's so weird. I've never gotten any. 267 00:12:15,125 --> 00:12:16,257 I've got the nude. 268 00:12:16,474 --> 00:12:17,562 Is it one? 269 00:12:17,737 --> 00:12:18,738 Three. 270 00:12:18,912 --> 00:12:20,565 Am I hard? 271 00:12:20,740 --> 00:12:22,089 No? Soft? 272 00:12:22,306 --> 00:12:23,743 - Flaccid. - Very soft, 273 00:12:23,917 --> 00:12:25,048 flaccid, not soft but... 274 00:12:31,011 --> 00:12:31,881 It's me. 275 00:12:34,623 --> 00:12:37,495 It curves left. It's me. 276 00:12:37,713 --> 00:12:38,975 Ten seconds! 277 00:12:43,197 --> 00:12:46,896 Andy-- all eyes on Andy in five, four, three... 278 00:12:49,551 --> 00:12:50,986 Hey, everybody, 279 00:12:50,987 --> 00:12:54,469 welcome to the "Summer House" Season 10 Reunion. 280 00:12:54,686 --> 00:12:56,297 I'm your host, Andy Cohen. 281 00:12:56,514 --> 00:12:59,561 Now, this summer, we saw new friendships form 282 00:12:59,779 --> 00:13:04,174 and long-term relationships fall apart in real time. 283 00:13:04,392 --> 00:13:06,960 And while some endings were crystal clear, 284 00:13:07,177 --> 00:13:09,353 one jaw-dropping new beginning 285 00:13:09,571 --> 00:13:13,401 has left the housemates and the entire Bravosphere 286 00:13:13,618 --> 00:13:15,142 with a lot of questions. 287 00:13:15,359 --> 00:13:17,971 First, I wanna say hi to the housemates, 288 00:13:18,188 --> 00:13:19,842 and I wanna start with you. Hi, Ciara. 289 00:13:20,060 --> 00:13:21,147 Hi, Andy. 290 00:13:21,148 --> 00:13:22,976 As a shock to no one on Earth, 291 00:13:23,193 --> 00:13:24,804 you look incredible. - Thanks. 292 00:13:24,978 --> 00:13:27,937 You've gotten a wave of love and support 293 00:13:28,155 --> 00:13:31,332 from the Bravoverse. What has that been like? 294 00:13:31,549 --> 00:13:33,072 Insane. 295 00:13:33,073 --> 00:13:35,118 A lot more than I think I would have ever expected. 296 00:13:35,336 --> 00:13:36,859 Congratulations on "Dancing With the Stars." 297 00:13:37,077 --> 00:13:38,339 - Thank you. - Yay! 298 00:13:38,556 --> 00:13:39,819 - Very exciting. - Thanks. 299 00:13:39,993 --> 00:13:41,603 - Are you excited? - Yeah, I'm so excited. 300 00:13:41,821 --> 00:13:43,692 - Hey, Kyle. - Hey, Andy. 301 00:13:43,866 --> 00:13:46,173 I gotta admit, a few months ago, 302 00:13:46,390 --> 00:13:48,610 I really thought that you were gonna have 303 00:13:48,828 --> 00:13:50,133 the most to answer to tonight. 304 00:13:50,351 --> 00:13:52,570 I thought you were gonna maybe be the villain 305 00:13:52,788 --> 00:13:53,919 of the season. 306 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:55,617 I have to think maybe you did, too. 307 00:13:55,835 --> 00:13:57,226 I was ready. I was ready. 308 00:13:57,227 --> 00:13:58,576 How does it feel not to be the biggest problem 309 00:13:58,794 --> 00:14:01,405 in the room? 310 00:14:01,623 --> 00:14:04,800 Weird-- it's very, uh, bittersweet to be 311 00:14:04,974 --> 00:14:06,846 kind of in the hotseat then off the hotseat 312 00:14:07,063 --> 00:14:10,414 and just in this weird... whatever you call this. 313 00:14:10,632 --> 00:14:11,938 I've never even been on this side of the room. 314 00:14:12,155 --> 00:14:13,896 Well, that brings me to Amanda. 315 00:14:14,114 --> 00:14:15,506 Hey, Amanda. - Hi, Andy. 316 00:14:15,724 --> 00:14:17,639 How are you feeling tonight? 317 00:14:17,857 --> 00:14:20,816 I mean, I'm-I'm prepared to, you know, 318 00:14:20,990 --> 00:14:22,600 to own up to what I've done, 319 00:14:22,818 --> 00:14:24,776 take accountability, apologize, 320 00:14:24,951 --> 00:14:26,866 uh, especially to Ciara and Kyle, 321 00:14:27,083 --> 00:14:30,391 and just, hopefully, be able to explain 322 00:14:30,608 --> 00:14:32,349 to everyone's face, you know, 323 00:14:32,567 --> 00:14:34,743 what went on and where I'm coming from. 324 00:14:34,917 --> 00:14:36,092 I'm glad she could say our name, right? 325 00:14:39,530 --> 00:14:40,835 What? 326 00:14:40,836 --> 00:14:42,229 I'm glad you could say our name this time. 327 00:14:54,676 --> 00:14:56,504 How are you feeling tonight? 328 00:14:56,721 --> 00:14:58,810 I'm prepared to take accountability, 329 00:14:58,985 --> 00:15:01,726 apologize, especially to Ciara and Kyle. 330 00:15:01,901 --> 00:15:03,119 I'm glad she could say our name, right? 331 00:15:05,817 --> 00:15:07,079 What? 332 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:08,516 I'm glad you could say our name this time. 333 00:15:14,739 --> 00:15:15,523 Hey, West. 334 00:15:15,740 --> 00:15:16,828 Hello, Andy. 335 00:15:17,003 --> 00:15:19,048 Um, I gotta ask. 336 00:15:19,266 --> 00:15:23,835 I mean, two years ago, your first reunion, 337 00:15:24,010 --> 00:15:27,578 um, you kinda shit the bed a little bit. 338 00:15:27,796 --> 00:15:30,059 - For sure, for sure. - Kinda. 339 00:15:30,277 --> 00:15:33,367 How is-how is tonight gonna be different? 340 00:15:33,584 --> 00:15:35,804 Um... 341 00:15:35,978 --> 00:15:37,371 I think there's a lot to be explained 342 00:15:37,588 --> 00:15:39,721 and things to share that will, hopefully, 343 00:15:39,939 --> 00:15:42,506 clear up a lot of the, like, wildfire 344 00:15:42,724 --> 00:15:44,987 of what this became. 345 00:15:45,205 --> 00:15:46,641 - Hi, Carl. - Hey, Andy. 346 00:15:46,858 --> 00:15:49,644 Can you confirm or deny that you are a mess? 347 00:15:51,646 --> 00:15:53,604 - I-I'm a mess. - You're a mess. 348 00:15:53,822 --> 00:15:55,476 - I'm a mess. - Why are you a mess? 349 00:15:55,693 --> 00:15:57,043 It's just been hard to kind of reconcile 350 00:15:57,260 --> 00:15:58,434 what we're watching 351 00:15:58,435 --> 00:16:00,350 and what kind of feels like was going on. 352 00:16:00,568 --> 00:16:02,744 Um, I feel like our group-- we should hold ourselves 353 00:16:02,962 --> 00:16:03,963 to a higher standard here, 354 00:16:04,180 --> 00:16:06,313 and we owe that to each other, 355 00:16:06,530 --> 00:16:07,923 and we owe that to our audience 356 00:16:08,097 --> 00:16:10,404 to, like, be fucking real, tell the truth, 357 00:16:10,621 --> 00:16:12,667 take accountability. 358 00:16:12,884 --> 00:16:15,975 I just, yeah, I'm nervous and anxious. 359 00:16:16,192 --> 00:16:18,020 - Hey, Jesse. - Hey, Andy. 360 00:16:18,238 --> 00:16:21,110 - How ya doin'? - Good. 361 00:16:21,328 --> 00:16:23,808 I was very sad on the way over here. 362 00:16:23,983 --> 00:16:24,809 - Why? - I don't know. 363 00:16:24,984 --> 00:16:26,420 It just kinda hit me. 364 00:16:26,637 --> 00:16:29,814 I feel like, uh, the friend group is-is fractured, 365 00:16:29,989 --> 00:16:31,293 and it's just sad, 366 00:16:31,294 --> 00:16:32,513 and I-I hope we're not just, like, mourning 367 00:16:32,730 --> 00:16:34,209 the loss of what we had, 368 00:16:34,210 --> 00:16:36,691 and I'm hoping that we can find some common ground 369 00:16:36,908 --> 00:16:40,129 and move forward the best way we can. 370 00:16:40,347 --> 00:16:42,044 Let's welcome the newbies. 371 00:16:42,262 --> 00:16:44,046 Hi, Bailey. - Hi, Andy. 372 00:16:44,264 --> 00:16:46,875 Don't worry, no Sweetgreen breakups today. 373 00:16:47,049 --> 00:16:48,746 You are safe on this couch. 374 00:16:48,964 --> 00:16:50,183 I'm not gonna get dumped here. 375 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,099 - No, you're definitely not. - Fabulous. 376 00:16:53,316 --> 00:16:54,970 - Hi, Mia. - Hi. 377 00:16:55,144 --> 00:16:57,494 - You look gorgeous. - Thank you. 378 00:16:57,712 --> 00:16:59,583 You told me on "Watch What Happens Live" 379 00:16:59,801 --> 00:17:01,846 that you met Rihanna. - Mm-hmm. 380 00:17:02,021 --> 00:17:05,285 What advice would Rihanna give you today? 381 00:17:05,502 --> 00:17:06,808 Well, I'll tell you what she told me when I met her. 382 00:17:07,026 --> 00:17:08,113 - Okay. - Damn. 383 00:17:08,114 --> 00:17:10,768 She said, "You're a bad bitch." 384 00:17:10,986 --> 00:17:12,205 And she would have said that tonight, too. 385 00:17:12,422 --> 00:17:14,207 - That's what's up. - All right, yes. 386 00:17:14,424 --> 00:17:15,991 Hey, KJ. - Hey. 387 00:17:16,165 --> 00:17:19,908 - How are you? - I'm sad. 388 00:17:20,082 --> 00:17:22,867 This is family, and, obviously, family has issues, 389 00:17:23,042 --> 00:17:25,348 but I just feel like 390 00:17:25,566 --> 00:17:29,222 there was a lot of, um, fraudulent activity. 391 00:17:32,094 --> 00:17:33,487 - Hi, Ben. - Andy. 392 00:17:33,704 --> 00:17:35,315 - Great to see you. - Good to see you, too. 393 00:17:35,532 --> 00:17:36,925 How is the missus? 394 00:17:37,099 --> 00:17:38,100 Ten out of ten, thank you for asking. 395 00:17:40,668 --> 00:17:42,148 All right, well, obviously, we need 396 00:17:42,365 --> 00:17:45,803 to start by addressing the elephant in the room. 397 00:17:46,021 --> 00:17:48,241 In February of this year, Amanda and West 398 00:17:48,458 --> 00:17:51,244 were spotted holding hands at an event, 399 00:17:51,461 --> 00:17:53,855 igniting what, at first, felt like 400 00:17:54,073 --> 00:17:57,119 outlandish Internet conspiracies. 401 00:17:57,337 --> 00:17:59,513 And when I asked West about those rumors 402 00:17:59,730 --> 00:18:01,167 on "Watch What Happens Live," 403 00:18:01,384 --> 00:18:05,040 his tepid denials only fueled speculation. 404 00:18:05,214 --> 00:18:07,869 What was your reaction to the rumors of you and Amanda? 405 00:18:08,087 --> 00:18:09,044 I just had to show her the streets 406 00:18:09,218 --> 00:18:10,784 a little bit, you know. 407 00:18:10,785 --> 00:18:12,178 If it's not clear, that's a very important person to me, 408 00:18:12,395 --> 00:18:16,486 and I, like, care about her a lot. 409 00:18:16,704 --> 00:18:20,186 Finally, on March 31st, just three weeks ago, 410 00:18:20,403 --> 00:18:22,797 West and Amanda released a joint statement 411 00:18:23,014 --> 00:18:24,799 confirming their romance. 412 00:18:25,016 --> 00:18:27,323 This led to an avalanche of questions, 413 00:18:27,541 --> 00:18:31,284 like where does this leave Ciara and Kyle? 414 00:18:31,501 --> 00:18:34,939 So, Ciara, when and why did you first suspect 415 00:18:35,114 --> 00:18:36,463 that something was going on 416 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,421 between West and Amanda? 417 00:18:38,639 --> 00:18:40,684 First day would be January 17th 418 00:18:40,902 --> 00:18:43,209 because I, like, went to call Amanda 419 00:18:43,426 --> 00:18:44,906 to invite her out to drinks with me and Mia, 420 00:18:45,124 --> 00:18:47,474 and her location was at West's house. 421 00:18:47,691 --> 00:18:51,130 And so, I-I had called, and she didn't answer, 422 00:18:51,304 --> 00:18:53,523 and then texted and didn't answer. 423 00:18:53,741 --> 00:18:55,264 I answered in 30 minutes. 424 00:18:55,482 --> 00:18:58,093 You did, after Mia put us in a group chat 425 00:18:58,267 --> 00:18:59,834 to see if you would respond. 426 00:19:00,051 --> 00:19:01,575 But, like, when I initially called you, 427 00:19:01,792 --> 00:19:03,010 you didn't answer. 428 00:19:03,011 --> 00:19:04,317 So, I was like, hmm, that's so weird. 429 00:19:04,534 --> 00:19:05,752 Like, why would she be at West's? 430 00:19:05,753 --> 00:19:06,797 - Okay, well, I was at-- - I'm speaking. 431 00:19:07,015 --> 00:19:08,669 So, I was like, hmm, that's weird. 432 00:19:08,886 --> 00:19:10,192 Why would she be at West's house? 433 00:19:10,410 --> 00:19:12,499 Because West was there for me all summer 434 00:19:12,716 --> 00:19:14,327 and was checking in. - And where was I? 435 00:19:14,544 --> 00:19:15,719 - Also there for-- - Where was I? 436 00:19:15,937 --> 00:19:17,112 - Also there for me. - Where was I? 437 00:19:17,286 --> 00:19:18,461 But when he asked me to get a drink-- 438 00:19:18,679 --> 00:19:19,854 No, say it, again. Where was I? 439 00:19:20,071 --> 00:19:21,637 You were also there for me, 440 00:19:21,638 --> 00:19:23,336 and I'm not discrediting that. - Yeah, and how many times 441 00:19:23,553 --> 00:19:25,164 have I asked you to hang out, 442 00:19:25,338 --> 00:19:26,382 and you have either blown me off-- 443 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:27,730 I hung out with West twice in-- 444 00:19:27,731 --> 00:19:30,212 Shut the fuck up. How many times 445 00:19:30,430 --> 00:19:32,083 have I asked you to hang out, 446 00:19:32,258 --> 00:19:33,346 have I asked to come over to your house, 447 00:19:33,563 --> 00:19:35,174 have I invited you to do stuff, 448 00:19:35,348 --> 00:19:37,915 and you act like your fuckin' phone doesn't work? 449 00:19:38,133 --> 00:19:40,048 I find it interesting that you're prioritizing 450 00:19:40,222 --> 00:19:41,310 your friendship with West-- 451 00:19:41,528 --> 00:19:42,702 Not-- was not. 452 00:19:42,703 --> 00:19:43,964 Over prioritizing your friendship-- 453 00:19:43,965 --> 00:19:44,617 - But you were. - But then why weren't you 454 00:19:44,618 --> 00:19:45,922 responding to her? 455 00:19:45,923 --> 00:19:47,925 Oh, my God, guess what. I had an awakening. 456 00:19:48,143 --> 00:19:50,711 I was living on my own. I separated from my ex. 457 00:19:50,928 --> 00:19:52,190 And I was trying to prioritize myself. 458 00:19:52,191 --> 00:19:53,452 Yeah, and then you hang out with mine. 459 00:19:53,453 --> 00:19:54,323 You go out. You guys are going to the bars, 460 00:19:54,541 --> 00:19:55,976 like, getting fucked up. 461 00:19:55,977 --> 00:19:57,847 Also, you're breadcrumbing everyone on Instagram. 462 00:19:57,848 --> 00:19:59,546 - Oof, that was tough. - I'm-I'm also hanging out with other people. 463 00:19:59,763 --> 00:20:01,200 I was not just hanging out with West. 464 00:20:01,417 --> 00:20:02,809 - Okay. - Didn't-- so-- 465 00:20:02,810 --> 00:20:03,810 I was hanging out with plenty of other friends 466 00:20:03,811 --> 00:20:04,767 where he was not present at all. 467 00:20:04,768 --> 00:20:05,942 - Okay, okay. - Who? Who? Who? 468 00:20:05,943 --> 00:20:07,422 You don't think I have other friends? 469 00:20:07,423 --> 00:20:09,599 - No, Katie DeLuca. - I mean, besides Katie DeLuca. 470 00:20:09,817 --> 00:20:10,905 A lot of the friends you've been hanging out recently 471 00:20:11,122 --> 00:20:13,255 literally-- - Are West's friends. 472 00:20:13,473 --> 00:20:14,561 - Exactly, I-- - That you guys have seen on the Internet! 473 00:20:14,778 --> 00:20:16,257 Amanda, you're-you're-- 474 00:20:16,258 --> 00:20:18,042 I don't post every fucking time I go out somewhere. 475 00:20:18,217 --> 00:20:19,521 - But your best-- - You were. 476 00:20:19,522 --> 00:20:20,783 Some of your best friends you aren't even, 477 00:20:20,784 --> 00:20:22,132 like, seeing anymore. - You were, though. 478 00:20:22,133 --> 00:20:22,221 She was-she was posting nonstop about going out. 479 00:20:23,309 --> 00:20:23,439 I was going to dinners and drinks 480 00:20:24,484 --> 00:20:26,180 and going out and doing things. 481 00:20:26,181 --> 00:20:26,268 I was saying yes to everything. - I mean, she was hanging out 482 00:20:27,226 --> 00:20:29,140 with another Katie, who is-- 483 00:20:29,315 --> 00:20:31,273 - Friends with West. - No, not friends with West. 484 00:20:31,491 --> 00:20:33,884 Fuck off. 485 00:20:34,102 --> 00:20:35,537 - Um-- - Shut the fuck up, Amanda. 486 00:20:35,538 --> 00:20:37,279 You don't wanna cross this fucking bridge with me. 487 00:20:37,497 --> 00:20:38,933 You really don't. 488 00:20:39,150 --> 00:20:41,065 I don't see your man sticking up for you now, huh? 489 00:20:43,938 --> 00:20:45,548 Jesse, you said on "Watch What Happens Live" 490 00:20:45,766 --> 00:20:47,811 you found out when the rest of the world did. - I'm sorry. 491 00:20:48,029 --> 00:20:49,944 Viewers want to equate you with 492 00:20:50,161 --> 00:20:52,599 Tom Schwartz in this situation, 493 00:20:52,816 --> 00:20:55,079 that you knew more than you let on. 494 00:20:55,254 --> 00:20:56,777 What's your response to that? 495 00:20:56,994 --> 00:20:58,126 Jesse didn't know anything. 496 00:20:58,300 --> 00:21:00,302 Yeah, I-I spoke with Amanda. 497 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:01,825 I sat down with her for drinks, 498 00:21:02,043 --> 00:21:04,828 and she told me that it just wasn't true. 499 00:21:05,046 --> 00:21:07,614 West-- I don't know-- I would text him, asking, 500 00:21:07,831 --> 00:21:10,225 and he would tell me that it wasn't true. 501 00:21:10,399 --> 00:21:13,707 Um, I-I have a timeline prepared, if necessary. 502 00:21:13,924 --> 00:21:15,970 Get it out. 503 00:21:16,187 --> 00:21:17,188 Get it out. 504 00:21:17,363 --> 00:21:18,799 That's why we're here. 505 00:21:19,016 --> 00:21:20,495 - Wow. - The-the lying part, 506 00:21:20,496 --> 00:21:22,759 I-I will not sit here and act like I didn't do it. 507 00:21:22,977 --> 00:21:26,023 I 100% lied to people here, 508 00:21:26,241 --> 00:21:28,374 and I take full accountability for that. 509 00:21:28,591 --> 00:21:29,678 - Thank you. - Not cool to do, in general, 510 00:21:29,679 --> 00:21:31,246 and not cool to do to your friends. 511 00:21:31,420 --> 00:21:33,161 No matter the case, lying to people you care about 512 00:21:33,335 --> 00:21:34,596 is not okay. 513 00:21:34,597 --> 00:21:35,903 But I think you-- the problem is, now, 514 00:21:36,120 --> 00:21:37,207 is that I feel like you lie about your life. 515 00:21:37,208 --> 00:21:38,862 Like, you like about who you are. 516 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:40,516 I think you're the most fraudulent person 517 00:21:40,734 --> 00:21:41,865 sitting on this couch. 518 00:21:42,083 --> 00:21:43,388 We've been here three years now. 519 00:21:43,389 --> 00:21:44,999 I don't think anybody really, truly knows 520 00:21:45,216 --> 00:21:46,478 who you are. - Why do you say that? 521 00:21:46,479 --> 00:21:48,089 You live a different fucking life off camera 522 00:21:48,307 --> 00:21:49,656 than you do on camera. 523 00:21:49,873 --> 00:21:51,309 We don't know what you're doing. 524 00:21:51,310 --> 00:21:53,224 And probably the reason why it was so confusing, 525 00:21:53,399 --> 00:21:54,791 is because you had a girlfriend. 526 00:21:58,839 --> 00:22:00,884 Meija? 527 00:22:10,067 --> 00:22:11,852 I think you're the most fraudulent person 528 00:22:12,069 --> 00:22:13,418 sitting on this couch. 529 00:22:13,419 --> 00:22:15,203 You live a different fucking life off camera 530 00:22:15,377 --> 00:22:16,770 than you do on camera. 531 00:22:16,987 --> 00:22:19,250 And probably the reason why it was so confusing, 532 00:22:19,425 --> 00:22:21,775 is because you had a girlfriend. 533 00:22:21,992 --> 00:22:23,167 Meija? 534 00:22:28,695 --> 00:22:30,436 Uh, not a girlfriend, but I was seeing someone. 535 00:22:30,653 --> 00:22:32,263 - Probably a girlfriend. - Uh... 536 00:22:32,438 --> 00:22:34,265 She says that you guys were exclusive. 537 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,355 - We weren't. - And, in fact, she spent the night with you 538 00:22:36,529 --> 00:22:37,616 the night before your "Watch What Happens Live". 539 00:22:37,617 --> 00:22:39,095 Your "Watch What Happens Live". 540 00:22:39,096 --> 00:22:40,184 - On what, March 24th? - And she made you your tie-- 541 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:41,794 Weird. - Correct. 542 00:22:41,795 --> 00:22:43,623 Sorry, correction, March 24th, not March 21st. 543 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,364 She did spend the night with you the night before? 544 00:22:45,538 --> 00:22:46,887 Mm-hmm, she brought me that tie. 545 00:22:47,104 --> 00:22:48,410 - She brought you the tie. - Yep. 546 00:22:48,628 --> 00:22:50,107 - The horsehair tie. - Yep. 547 00:22:50,325 --> 00:22:52,022 Now, West, explain your tie. 548 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:53,720 Um, my friend, Meija, made this for me. 549 00:22:53,937 --> 00:22:54,851 We gotta tighten it up. 550 00:22:55,069 --> 00:22:57,332 Snarl Studios. It's horsehair. 551 00:22:57,506 --> 00:22:59,726 Real horsehair. - This is a real horsehair tie. 552 00:23:01,380 --> 00:23:03,643 And did you know that he was dating this woman? 553 00:23:03,860 --> 00:23:04,947 - Yeah. - Yes. 554 00:23:04,948 --> 00:23:05,732 You know now, or you knew then? 555 00:23:05,949 --> 00:23:07,254 And you didn't care? 556 00:23:07,255 --> 00:23:09,213 Uh, we had a whole conversation about it. 557 00:23:09,388 --> 00:23:12,129 Amanda, why are you doing this? 558 00:23:12,347 --> 00:23:13,695 - Doing what? - Like, why? 559 00:23:13,696 --> 00:23:14,653 You went from being married, and I'm not saying 560 00:23:14,654 --> 00:23:16,263 your relationship was perfect. 561 00:23:16,264 --> 00:23:17,395 - No, certainly not. - But you went from being married 562 00:23:17,396 --> 00:23:18,048 to being one of West's side bitches. 563 00:23:18,266 --> 00:23:19,876 That's crazy. 564 00:23:22,357 --> 00:23:24,403 - Okay. - This is unnecessary. 565 00:23:24,620 --> 00:23:26,274 We're gonna talk about this. 566 00:23:26,448 --> 00:23:29,408 Let's talk about the statement. 567 00:23:29,625 --> 00:23:31,932 The statement came out incredibly rushed 568 00:23:32,149 --> 00:23:35,414 because of how insane it all became. 569 00:23:35,588 --> 00:23:38,547 There's a zillion reasons why this was confusing 570 00:23:38,765 --> 00:23:39,895 and didn't make sense, 571 00:23:39,896 --> 00:23:40,940 and there's so many layers to it. 572 00:23:40,941 --> 00:23:42,029 Isn't that enough layers to go 573 00:23:42,246 --> 00:23:43,204 what the fuck are we doing here? 574 00:23:43,422 --> 00:23:44,944 Period. - Right, yeah. 575 00:23:44,945 --> 00:23:46,119 - We talked about it. - You'd think that that would-- 576 00:23:46,120 --> 00:23:47,251 so, it was so conscious that you guys 577 00:23:47,426 --> 00:23:48,600 talked about it. 578 00:23:48,601 --> 00:23:49,602 It wasn't just like a drunk hookup. 579 00:23:49,819 --> 00:23:51,341 You guys talked about it. 580 00:23:51,342 --> 00:23:53,040 - No, it all started with-- - You knew how fucked up 581 00:23:53,257 --> 00:23:54,563 and how fucking weird it would be, 582 00:23:54,781 --> 00:23:56,522 and you still did it, you chose to do it. 583 00:23:56,739 --> 00:23:58,348 - Okay, but guess what. - You kept doing it, 584 00:23:58,349 --> 00:23:59,567 and you were hiding it from-- - Sometimes you can't help 585 00:23:59,568 --> 00:24:02,136 who you like and who you are attracted to. 586 00:24:02,353 --> 00:24:03,703 That was some-- - You actually can help it. 587 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,094 - So, you didn't-- - When you're married, 588 00:24:05,095 --> 00:24:06,182 you actually can help it. - So, you-- 589 00:24:06,183 --> 00:24:07,837 I wasn't married anymore, Ciara. 590 00:24:08,055 --> 00:24:09,926 Are you guys actually legally? Have you guys filed? 591 00:24:10,144 --> 00:24:12,059 I've-I've attained counsel, 592 00:24:12,276 --> 00:24:14,191 and my attorney has reached out to Kyle, 593 00:24:14,409 --> 00:24:15,627 but we haven't gotten anywhere since then. 594 00:24:15,628 --> 00:24:17,194 Legally-- by-by the State of New York, 595 00:24:17,412 --> 00:24:18,368 you're still fucking married. 596 00:24:18,369 --> 00:24:19,500 - New Jersey. - So, I'm sorry, 597 00:24:19,501 --> 00:24:20,588 but when I'm separated from someone, 598 00:24:20,589 --> 00:24:21,721 I have to stay celibate and single 599 00:24:21,938 --> 00:24:23,548 for the rest of my life 600 00:24:23,549 --> 00:24:24,810 until the judge signs papers? - Nobody was saying stay-- 601 00:24:24,811 --> 00:24:25,941 nobody was-nobody was saying that you needed 602 00:24:25,942 --> 00:24:28,205 to stay celibate or what the fuck ever, 603 00:24:28,423 --> 00:24:30,120 but there are a million other fucking guys 604 00:24:30,338 --> 00:24:32,819 in New York City, but you chose the one that-- 605 00:24:33,036 --> 00:24:34,777 and you know how much that fucked me up. 606 00:24:34,995 --> 00:24:36,605 You chose the one guy. 607 00:24:36,823 --> 00:24:37,997 - I didn't chose-- I didn't-- - And you did it on purpose 608 00:24:37,998 --> 00:24:39,565 'cause you're a fucking snake, Amanda. 609 00:24:39,782 --> 00:24:41,088 You're a snake in the fucking grass, 610 00:24:41,305 --> 00:24:42,655 is what you are. - That is-- okay. 611 00:24:42,872 --> 00:24:44,091 You're a snake in the fucking grass, 612 00:24:44,308 --> 00:24:45,484 and you should honestly just say, "Okay," 613 00:24:45,701 --> 00:24:46,962 because you know you are. 614 00:24:46,963 --> 00:24:48,748 You move silent, but you're fucking deadly. 615 00:24:51,054 --> 00:24:53,448 When Ciara confronted you 616 00:24:53,622 --> 00:24:55,755 and said, "Is this happening," 617 00:24:55,972 --> 00:24:58,801 and you denied it, 618 00:24:59,019 --> 00:25:01,500 what is going through your mind, at that point, 619 00:25:01,674 --> 00:25:04,546 given not only all the two of you have been through 620 00:25:04,764 --> 00:25:06,896 but everything she has portrayed 621 00:25:07,114 --> 00:25:10,204 about her complications with this man? 622 00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:13,163 I was terrified. 623 00:25:13,381 --> 00:25:14,730 I knew that I would-- 624 00:25:14,948 --> 00:25:17,646 the truth would have to come out, no matter what. 625 00:25:17,864 --> 00:25:19,169 I knew I was gonna have to tell her, 626 00:25:19,387 --> 00:25:22,085 whether this was a short-term thing, 627 00:25:22,303 --> 00:25:23,259 something more. - And you know he is, 628 00:25:23,260 --> 00:25:24,739 like, my friend, too, right? 629 00:25:24,740 --> 00:25:26,132 - Right, yeah. - Like, I feel like I'm just kind of 630 00:25:26,133 --> 00:25:27,394 kicked to the fucking side during this whole thing. 631 00:25:27,395 --> 00:25:28,830 The question was about Ciara, right now. 632 00:25:28,831 --> 00:25:30,179 - Okay, well, I-I-- - I know, but I'm just, like, 633 00:25:30,180 --> 00:25:30,311 kind of losing my mind. - Well, you guys are both 634 00:25:31,660 --> 00:25:31,747 snakes in the grass because West is fucked up 635 00:25:32,661 --> 00:25:32,792 for doing that to you, too. 636 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:34,010 Like, they're both fucking weird. 637 00:25:34,663 --> 00:25:36,142 So, knowing-- 638 00:25:36,143 --> 00:25:39,450 I mean, it-it could take a casual viewer of the show 639 00:25:39,625 --> 00:25:41,583 to look at the statement and say, 640 00:25:41,801 --> 00:25:44,151 "Well, that's weird that they didn't mention 641 00:25:44,368 --> 00:25:47,067 Ciara or Kyle or kind of acknowledge--" 642 00:25:47,284 --> 00:25:49,112 I feel like I-- 643 00:25:49,330 --> 00:25:50,940 It's damned if you do, damned if you don't. 644 00:25:51,158 --> 00:25:52,507 If you say people-- - No, no, no, no. 645 00:25:52,681 --> 00:25:53,900 Okay, and listen, I handled it the way 646 00:25:54,117 --> 00:25:56,946 that I thought was the right thing to do. 647 00:25:57,164 --> 00:26:00,428 Did a PR person help you with that statement? 648 00:26:00,602 --> 00:26:01,777 - Clearly not, clearly not. - I hope not. 649 00:26:01,995 --> 00:26:03,038 - Okay. - Jesus. 650 00:26:03,039 --> 00:26:04,563 Well, so, then, who wrote it? 651 00:26:04,780 --> 00:26:07,870 The both of y'all together? - ChatGPT, no, it, uh-- 652 00:26:08,088 --> 00:26:09,655 No, ChatGPT is a lot smarter than that statement. 653 00:26:09,872 --> 00:26:10,699 Let's be so for real. - I-I was kidding. 654 00:26:10,917 --> 00:26:12,178 Wait... 655 00:26:12,179 --> 00:26:14,616 Um, Carl, Renee from Jacksonville said, 656 00:26:14,834 --> 00:26:16,270 "The public didn't go easy on you 657 00:26:16,487 --> 00:26:17,576 after your breakup with Lindsay, 658 00:26:17,750 --> 00:26:19,054 and you stayed quiet. 659 00:26:19,055 --> 00:26:21,014 So, when Amanda and West put out a statement, 660 00:26:21,231 --> 00:26:23,364 did you think it was the right move 661 00:26:23,582 --> 00:26:25,148 or unnecessary?" 662 00:26:25,366 --> 00:26:26,933 I mean, terrible move, 663 00:26:27,150 --> 00:26:29,588 but if you're gonna do it, apologize to Ciara and Kyle. 664 00:26:29,805 --> 00:26:31,328 Period. - I apologized privately. 665 00:26:31,546 --> 00:26:33,156 - In a statement publicly. - 100% but-- 666 00:26:33,374 --> 00:26:34,636 Because who is the statement for? 667 00:26:34,854 --> 00:26:36,158 Like, why did you put a statement out? 668 00:26:36,159 --> 00:26:37,508 Everyone was asking for it to be addressed. 669 00:26:37,683 --> 00:26:38,987 It's like singing "Happy Birthday" 670 00:26:38,988 --> 00:26:40,424 without using someone's name. Like, it's-- 671 00:26:40,599 --> 00:26:42,077 You put a statement out because you fucked up. 672 00:26:42,078 --> 00:26:42,991 - I texted Ciara separately. - But you didn't address 673 00:26:42,992 --> 00:26:43,732 the people that you fucked up. 674 00:26:43,950 --> 00:26:45,124 I addressed them, 675 00:26:45,125 --> 00:26:46,517 and I texted every single one of you 676 00:26:46,692 --> 00:26:48,607 on this stage, apologizing. 677 00:26:48,824 --> 00:26:50,130 - I just-- - Yeah, at least you texted me, Amanda. 678 00:26:50,347 --> 00:26:52,349 I didn't get one from you, West. 679 00:26:52,567 --> 00:26:54,351 Why didn't you reach out to KJ? 680 00:26:54,569 --> 00:26:56,136 I didn't text Bailey or Levi either. 681 00:26:56,353 --> 00:26:58,617 I thought-- I-I just focused on the people 682 00:26:58,834 --> 00:27:00,227 that I thought it really, really, really hurt, and if-- 683 00:27:00,444 --> 00:27:01,836 Everyone did get dragged into it, 684 00:27:01,837 --> 00:27:03,491 even me and Levi. - Yeah, like, unintentionally. 685 00:27:03,665 --> 00:27:05,187 Thank you. - Everyone has been dragged into it. 686 00:27:05,188 --> 00:27:06,449 But that's the reason why I didn't add the apology 687 00:27:06,450 --> 00:27:08,627 in the statement because it felt inauthentic, 688 00:27:08,801 --> 00:27:11,020 and people-- I felt like I'd be attacked for that, also, 689 00:27:11,238 --> 00:27:13,109 which is why I texted everyone 690 00:27:13,327 --> 00:27:14,544 individually and separately. 691 00:27:14,545 --> 00:27:15,589 Did you text her a personal apology? 692 00:27:15,590 --> 00:27:16,896 I apologize for not texting you. 693 00:27:17,113 --> 00:27:18,724 Did you text her a personal apology? 694 00:27:18,941 --> 00:27:20,290 Yeah, 100%. 695 00:27:20,508 --> 00:27:21,639 I mean, did-- you knew that 696 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,946 it would need to be a conversation? 697 00:27:24,164 --> 00:27:25,252 - Okay, well, let's go over-- - Yeah, I would have loved 698 00:27:25,469 --> 00:27:26,600 to have been able to talk. 699 00:27:26,601 --> 00:27:27,820 Let's go over my-- her first text 700 00:27:28,037 --> 00:27:29,648 since we wanna get into it. 701 00:27:29,865 --> 00:27:32,563 Okay, so, the day that the rumors dropped, 702 00:27:32,738 --> 00:27:34,000 don't hear from her until, like, that night. 703 00:27:34,217 --> 00:27:35,088 Okay. 704 00:27:35,305 --> 00:27:36,610 "Hi, Checking in. 705 00:27:36,611 --> 00:27:38,090 The Internet is fucking on one, right now, 706 00:27:38,091 --> 00:27:39,832 and I feel like everything I do is under a microscope. 707 00:27:40,049 --> 00:27:41,660 I can't believe I'm even having to text you this, right now, 708 00:27:41,877 --> 00:27:44,140 but West and I are very much so just friends. 709 00:27:44,358 --> 00:27:45,838 I'm sad we're even having to discuss this." 710 00:27:46,055 --> 00:27:47,099 - Yeah. - I said, "So, I"-- 711 00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:48,231 And so, hold on, to be clear, 712 00:27:48,449 --> 00:27:50,059 you were hooking up, at that time. 713 00:27:50,277 --> 00:27:51,278 - 100%, 100%. - We're talking, 714 00:27:51,495 --> 00:27:53,497 and everything was PG. 715 00:27:53,672 --> 00:27:55,717 Everything that was happening between us was PG, 716 00:27:55,935 --> 00:27:57,023 and everything started with conversations and emotion. 717 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:58,764 - What's PG? - What-what's PG? 718 00:27:58,981 --> 00:28:00,766 - Why continue to lie? - Like, literally. 719 00:28:00,983 --> 00:28:02,723 Like, can't you just tell us when things-- 720 00:28:02,724 --> 00:28:04,203 That's what I'm saying 'cause, like, what are we doing here? 721 00:28:04,204 --> 00:28:05,595 Like, when did you guys hook up for the first time? 722 00:28:05,596 --> 00:28:05,684 - With a guy that I used-- - After the statement. 723 00:28:06,902 --> 00:28:07,033 With a guy that I used to date-- anyway. 724 00:28:07,773 --> 00:28:07,903 So, and then I said, 725 00:28:08,991 --> 00:28:09,122 "So, I can expect for there to be 726 00:28:10,210 --> 00:28:10,340 no photos or videos coming out? 727 00:28:11,690 --> 00:28:11,777 'Cause I feel like it's such a widespread rumor 728 00:28:12,952 --> 00:28:14,604 for there to be no veracity to it." 729 00:28:14,605 --> 00:28:16,477 She goes, "No, nothing different than what I've posted myself. 730 00:28:16,695 --> 00:28:18,131 People have just seen us with each other more and more 731 00:28:18,348 --> 00:28:19,741 and are being psychos. 732 00:28:19,959 --> 00:28:20,873 I hear what you're saying, but I feel like 733 00:28:21,090 --> 00:28:22,439 I can't even exist right now 734 00:28:22,657 --> 00:28:24,572 without people overanalyzing everything I do." 735 00:28:24,746 --> 00:28:26,661 And so, I go, "Okay, so, for clarity, 736 00:28:26,835 --> 00:28:28,794 since I don't really feel like you're making it clear, 737 00:28:29,011 --> 00:28:30,926 you and West haven't hooked up, made out, 738 00:28:31,144 --> 00:28:33,363 held hands under table, or had sex?" 739 00:28:33,581 --> 00:28:34,843 I just get a, "Correct." - And I said, "Correct." 740 00:28:35,061 --> 00:28:37,063 And I lied, 100% lied. 741 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:38,367 She would, all of a sudden, 742 00:28:38,368 --> 00:28:39,282 for the first time in five years, 743 00:28:39,500 --> 00:28:40,675 your location would go off. 744 00:28:40,849 --> 00:28:42,328 Right, you turned your location off. 745 00:28:42,329 --> 00:28:43,416 And then you would forget. Then you would forget. 746 00:28:43,417 --> 00:28:44,070 I don't always share my location 747 00:28:44,287 --> 00:28:46,289 with the two of you. 748 00:28:46,507 --> 00:28:47,725 - I'm just saying. - Yeah, that's not how 749 00:28:47,726 --> 00:28:48,813 Find My Friends works. - That didn't-- 750 00:28:48,814 --> 00:28:50,118 It's, like, we have it all the time. 751 00:28:50,119 --> 00:28:51,642 That's how it-- - That didn't work out well. 752 00:28:51,817 --> 00:28:54,689 Between Kyle, my management, other friends, 753 00:28:54,863 --> 00:28:56,735 I didn't want people to know where I was all the time. 754 00:28:56,952 --> 00:28:58,083 - 'Cause you were at West's. - 'Cause you were out with West. 755 00:28:58,084 --> 00:28:59,388 Because you're doing something-- 756 00:28:59,389 --> 00:29:00,955 You're not supposed to be there with him. 757 00:29:00,956 --> 00:29:02,391 - You're doing shady stuff. - You were doing shady shit. 758 00:29:02,392 --> 00:29:02,523 You were at-- you were sleeping at West's apartment. 759 00:29:03,698 --> 00:29:05,003 So, you-- so-so, you then text Ciara. 760 00:29:05,004 --> 00:29:06,569 - Of course, you'd turn it off. - Sure, that-- 761 00:29:06,570 --> 00:29:06,701 Sure, that's-- Okay. - I would definitely turn it off 762 00:29:07,702 --> 00:29:07,833 if I was, like, gonna get caught 763 00:29:08,964 --> 00:29:10,182 sleeping with my best friend's ex. 764 00:29:10,183 --> 00:29:12,141 - Okay. - I was not sleeping with West! 765 00:29:12,359 --> 00:29:13,795 - Whatever. - Were you not sleeping over? 766 00:29:15,318 --> 00:29:17,538 All right, we're gonna get to it a little bit later. 767 00:29:17,756 --> 00:29:20,454 So, who made the first move? 768 00:29:20,671 --> 00:29:22,282 Um, I-- When we were out, 769 00:29:22,499 --> 00:29:24,153 I, like, kinda looked at Amanda, 770 00:29:24,371 --> 00:29:25,719 and I was like, "Am I fucking crazy, 771 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,375 or is there a little something going on here?" 772 00:29:29,985 --> 00:29:32,771 - That's so funny. - When was your first kiss? 773 00:29:32,945 --> 00:29:36,600 - End of February. - End of February, after brunch. 774 00:29:36,775 --> 00:29:38,951 When did it first happen that you slept together? 775 00:29:39,168 --> 00:29:40,822 Oh, so, the brunch that you guys all went out to, 776 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:41,867 that was your first kiss? 777 00:29:43,694 --> 00:29:45,305 That night, yeah. 778 00:29:47,350 --> 00:29:49,309 When did you first sleep together? 779 00:29:49,526 --> 00:29:51,006 - Is that-- - After the statement-- 780 00:29:53,139 --> 00:29:55,054 I mean, not that night, but-- 781 00:29:58,144 --> 00:29:59,275 Also, to clear up, this isn't, like, 782 00:29:59,493 --> 00:30:01,408 a s-sex scandal. 783 00:30:01,625 --> 00:30:03,105 It was, like, hanging out, kisses. 784 00:30:03,323 --> 00:30:04,933 Yeah, we know you didn't fuck until recently, 785 00:30:05,151 --> 00:30:06,281 a couple weeks ago, first time, good job. 786 00:30:06,282 --> 00:30:07,761 Yeah, I'm-I'm just clearing that up 787 00:30:07,762 --> 00:30:08,936 for the what was going on. - 'Cause you were, like-- 788 00:30:08,937 --> 00:30:09,068 I'd rather not visualize the sex part. 789 00:30:09,546 --> 00:30:10,720 Yeah. 790 00:30:10,721 --> 00:30:10,809 Can we just get back to the question? 791 00:30:11,287 --> 00:30:12,592 Yeah. 792 00:30:12,593 --> 00:30:14,073 Um, okay, so, I-I want to hear the rest. 793 00:30:14,290 --> 00:30:16,815 Okay, so, then Saturday, March 7th, she says, 794 00:30:17,032 --> 00:30:18,729 "Oh, my gosh," she says, "Do you want to talk at all? 795 00:30:18,904 --> 00:30:20,209 I'm super in my head about where we left off 796 00:30:20,427 --> 00:30:21,993 this conversation, 797 00:30:21,994 --> 00:30:23,778 and I hate the thought of things being weird between us 798 00:30:23,952 --> 00:30:25,736 because of West. Like, that's so silly to me. 799 00:30:25,911 --> 00:30:27,172 I have nothing going on today or tomorrow... 800 00:30:27,173 --> 00:30:28,521 Maybe I should have just said to you... 801 00:30:28,522 --> 00:30:29,522 from the get-go-- - ...if you wanna do something." 802 00:30:29,523 --> 00:30:30,958 "I don't know what's going on. 803 00:30:30,959 --> 00:30:31,917 I had feelings for someone that I'm not supposed to 804 00:30:32,134 --> 00:30:33,265 have feelings for. 805 00:30:33,266 --> 00:30:34,266 I don't know what to do about it." 806 00:30:34,267 --> 00:30:35,354 And then you remove yourself. 807 00:30:35,355 --> 00:30:36,442 That's what a normal friend would do. 808 00:30:36,443 --> 00:30:37,443 And-and-and what would-- and how-- 809 00:30:37,444 --> 00:30:38,923 - What? - You remove yourself. 810 00:30:38,924 --> 00:30:39,707 And how would you have responded if she said that? 811 00:30:39,881 --> 00:30:41,055 Well, if you-- 812 00:30:41,056 --> 00:30:42,231 So, I'm not allowed to pursue something 813 00:30:42,449 --> 00:30:45,017 that I feel strongly about. - No. 814 00:30:45,234 --> 00:30:46,365 Well, at that point, y-you clearly 815 00:30:46,366 --> 00:30:47,193 don't feel strongly if you're trying 816 00:30:47,410 --> 00:30:48,628 to understand it. - No. 817 00:30:48,629 --> 00:30:50,108 - The answer is no. - Yeah, you know-- 818 00:30:50,109 --> 00:30:50,935 - Are we morally bankrupt? No. - Like, literally no. 819 00:30:50,936 --> 00:30:52,154 Got it. So, no one in-- 820 00:30:52,372 --> 00:30:53,720 And no one in this world 821 00:30:53,721 --> 00:30:54,853 has ever been in a situation like this before. 822 00:30:55,070 --> 00:30:56,767 - No, ever! - In high school maybe! 823 00:30:56,942 --> 00:30:57,986 We're in our 30's, not in high school. 824 00:30:58,204 --> 00:30:59,595 This is not the craziest thing 825 00:30:59,596 --> 00:31:01,468 that's ever happened in the whole entire world. 826 00:31:01,685 --> 00:31:02,948 You guys are acting like I had an affair. 827 00:31:03,165 --> 00:31:04,296 - You can downplay it. - I'm not downplaying. 828 00:31:04,297 --> 00:31:05,688 Okay, well, let me ask you this. 829 00:31:05,689 --> 00:31:07,038 - No, you had a whole month. - Hold on! Hold on! 830 00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:08,082 That's exactly what you came here to do today 831 00:31:08,083 --> 00:31:08,214 You're literally downplaying it. 832 00:31:09,389 --> 00:31:10,694 I'm not downplaying your feelings. 833 00:31:10,869 --> 00:31:11,651 No, well, what do you think that this-- 834 00:31:11,652 --> 00:31:12,609 Not a fucking thing. 835 00:31:12,827 --> 00:31:14,568 Everything he say is gonna-- 836 00:31:14,785 --> 00:31:15,873 You're saying that you felt so convicted, 837 00:31:15,874 --> 00:31:17,004 that you just had so much feelings 838 00:31:17,005 --> 00:31:17,918 that you were so confused about it, 839 00:31:17,919 --> 00:31:19,267 so you put out a statement. 840 00:31:19,268 --> 00:31:21,140 You're willing to disrupt the whole equilibrium 841 00:31:21,357 --> 00:31:24,230 in this house for, like, um, figuring out 842 00:31:24,447 --> 00:31:29,061 how you guys are feeling for each other. 843 00:31:29,278 --> 00:31:33,108 Okay, so, to close this portion of the conversation, 844 00:31:33,326 --> 00:31:37,156 I-I would like to hear-- Ciara, what are your intentions 845 00:31:37,373 --> 00:31:42,988 that you hope for, for this reunion? 846 00:31:43,205 --> 00:31:45,381 I mean, after that, I don't know. 847 00:31:45,599 --> 00:31:47,079 I mean, I guess we might as well discuss the details 848 00:31:47,296 --> 00:31:48,341 before I put them in the ground 849 00:31:48,558 --> 00:31:49,646 and cover 'em with dirt. So... 850 00:31:52,606 --> 00:31:56,262 Okay, so, we are gonna hit pause on Amanda and West, 851 00:31:56,479 --> 00:31:58,525 and we're gonna circle back on that. 852 00:31:58,742 --> 00:31:59,482 We'll be right back. 853 00:32:05,967 --> 00:32:07,272 Coming up... 854 00:32:07,273 --> 00:32:09,623 Whose cardboard cutout got the most action? 855 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,538 - Lindsay. - I-I gave a lot of hand jobs. 856 00:32:11,755 --> 00:32:13,192 I tried to put that on TikTok, and it censored it. 857 00:32:24,029 --> 00:32:26,422 You look great. Everyone looks fantastic. 858 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,730 Lindsay is giving, like, Cruella De Vil. 859 00:32:29,948 --> 00:32:30,992 - You know. - Yeah, I'm looking. 860 00:32:31,210 --> 00:32:32,733 You can see every, like, little-- 861 00:32:32,951 --> 00:32:34,561 is it a spray tan? What'd you do? 862 00:32:34,778 --> 00:32:39,131 - Spray tan, body glow, glitter. - Damn, girl. 863 00:32:39,348 --> 00:32:41,960 Yeah, it looks good. 864 00:32:42,177 --> 00:32:44,658 Yep, looks pretty good. 865 00:32:44,875 --> 00:32:46,921 - You look great. - You want another hug, Carl? 866 00:32:47,095 --> 00:32:51,056 Hug-house, I'll always take a hug. 867 00:32:51,273 --> 00:32:52,971 Look at this hot-ass girl coming out here. 868 00:32:53,145 --> 00:32:54,711 - Oh, she does look good. - Hey, Levi. 869 00:32:54,929 --> 00:32:55,974 - Levi. - Hi. Hello. 870 00:32:56,148 --> 00:32:57,104 - Great to see you. - Hey, Levi. 871 00:32:57,105 --> 00:32:58,106 - Hi. Hi, everyone. - Hello. 872 00:32:58,324 --> 00:33:00,108 - Whoo! - You look great. 873 00:33:00,326 --> 00:33:02,981 - Whoo, Levi! - Sexy. 874 00:33:03,155 --> 00:33:04,242 - You look so hot. - Love the green. 875 00:33:04,243 --> 00:33:05,766 Is Levi wearing Soft Bar green? 876 00:33:05,984 --> 00:33:07,202 - She is. - Oh. 877 00:33:07,420 --> 00:33:08,943 - This is our boy. - You girls coordinated. 878 00:33:09,117 --> 00:33:11,902 - Nice. - So, I heard I missed a lot. 879 00:33:12,077 --> 00:33:13,207 Good portion to miss. 880 00:33:13,208 --> 00:33:14,295 We're gonna lighten up the mood. 881 00:33:14,296 --> 00:33:18,126 Here we go. Five, four, three... 882 00:33:18,344 --> 00:33:19,649 Welcome back. 883 00:33:19,867 --> 00:33:21,390 Before the West and Amanda news 884 00:33:21,608 --> 00:33:23,349 shattered the internet to pieces, 885 00:33:23,566 --> 00:33:25,220 this crew managed to come together 886 00:33:25,438 --> 00:33:28,789 for plenty of chaos in the fun department. 887 00:33:29,007 --> 00:33:30,660 Oh! 888 00:33:33,054 --> 00:33:35,013 Go, go, go! 889 00:33:35,187 --> 00:33:36,057 Kill him! 890 00:33:38,407 --> 00:33:40,018 Whoa! What the...? 891 00:33:40,235 --> 00:33:43,195 And with a whole new crop of new housemates, 892 00:33:43,412 --> 00:33:47,025 the energy this summer was anything but low. 893 00:33:47,199 --> 00:33:48,722 Dara's gonna join us in a little bit, 894 00:33:48,939 --> 00:33:51,290 but, right now, we are joined by Levi. 895 00:33:51,507 --> 00:33:52,943 Hi, Levi. - Hi. 896 00:33:53,118 --> 00:33:56,034 - How was your summer? - It was really fun. 897 00:33:56,208 --> 00:33:57,122 The parties were my favorite part 898 00:33:57,339 --> 00:33:58,470 and getting to know everyone. 899 00:33:58,471 --> 00:34:00,299 It was a really incredible summer. 900 00:34:00,516 --> 00:34:02,475 So, after 12 years in a relationship, 901 00:34:02,692 --> 00:34:05,652 you walked into a house full of single, 902 00:34:05,869 --> 00:34:07,784 ready to mingle housemates. 903 00:34:08,002 --> 00:34:10,309 Was that exciting or intimidating? 904 00:34:10,526 --> 00:34:11,918 I think it was exciting. 905 00:34:11,919 --> 00:34:14,487 I just don't think the guys were that into me. 906 00:34:14,704 --> 00:34:15,922 Aww. 907 00:34:15,923 --> 00:34:16,836 Sometimes friendship is more valuable. 908 00:34:16,837 --> 00:34:18,360 Hey, I love friendship, too. 909 00:34:18,578 --> 00:34:20,058 Bailey, your summer started with tears 910 00:34:20,275 --> 00:34:21,929 at the first house dinner, 911 00:34:22,103 --> 00:34:24,540 a pretty unforgettable first impression. 912 00:34:24,758 --> 00:34:27,021 Missy from Bar Harbor, Maine said, 913 00:34:27,195 --> 00:34:29,067 "Levi, does Bailey have a history of 914 00:34:29,284 --> 00:34:32,157 flipping the mood at dinner, or was this a first for her?" 915 00:34:32,374 --> 00:34:33,245 - She does that. - You do. 916 00:34:34,376 --> 00:34:35,724 - I do do that. - You do. 917 00:34:35,725 --> 00:34:37,771 Um, yeah, no, I-I do trauma dump on people. 918 00:34:37,988 --> 00:34:39,512 So, yes, I do have a history of doing it. 919 00:34:39,729 --> 00:34:40,991 It's not the first time. 920 00:34:42,254 --> 00:34:44,473 Jesse, Mariska from Salt Lake City said, 921 00:34:44,691 --> 00:34:46,258 "After that first dinner, were you concerned about 922 00:34:46,475 --> 00:34:48,521 how the rest of the summer would go?" 923 00:34:48,738 --> 00:34:49,739 - Me? - Yeah. 924 00:34:49,957 --> 00:34:51,131 Yeah, sure was. 925 00:34:51,132 --> 00:34:52,525 - You were. - I was like "wrong show." 926 00:34:52,742 --> 00:34:54,092 Like, we're trying to have fun. 927 00:34:54,266 --> 00:34:56,790 - West, same question. - "Wrong show." 928 00:34:57,007 --> 00:34:58,748 Uh, I didn't know if there would be more tears 929 00:34:58,966 --> 00:35:00,140 at more meals, 930 00:35:00,141 --> 00:35:02,187 but I think that that was the only time. 931 00:35:02,404 --> 00:35:03,623 Um, Levi and Bailey, 932 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,886 I love it that you decided to share a bed 933 00:35:06,104 --> 00:35:08,280 and then put the clothes in the other bed. 934 00:35:08,497 --> 00:35:10,717 - Is this our sleep bed? - Yes. 935 00:35:10,934 --> 00:35:13,502 Wait, this is crazy work. 936 00:35:13,720 --> 00:35:15,025 - Wait, what? - Oh, yeah. 937 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:16,461 We wanted to cuddle. 938 00:35:16,462 --> 00:35:18,768 Are you two as inseparable as you seem? 939 00:35:18,986 --> 00:35:19,942 I think it's worse than people even realize. 940 00:35:19,943 --> 00:35:20,769 - Probably way worse. - Yes. 941 00:35:20,770 --> 00:35:21,379 - Really? - Probably. 942 00:35:21,380 --> 00:35:22,467 Yeah, we do-- 943 00:35:22,468 --> 00:35:23,642 How many times a day do you talk? 944 00:35:23,643 --> 00:35:24,860 - See, do you hear Carl? - I-I, literally, 945 00:35:24,861 --> 00:35:25,861 any time I see Bailey, it's always, like, 946 00:35:25,862 --> 00:35:27,951 Levi is right there. 947 00:35:28,126 --> 00:35:30,606 Ciara, your costumes this summer, uh, 948 00:35:30,824 --> 00:35:33,653 just absolutely through the roof-- plague rat, 949 00:35:33,870 --> 00:35:36,786 an elderly version of Karma Brown. 950 00:35:37,004 --> 00:35:39,137 Um, it looked like Karma's strap-on breasts 951 00:35:39,354 --> 00:35:40,660 got a lot of action. 952 00:35:40,877 --> 00:35:43,576 Honestly, best $300 I ever spent off eBay. 953 00:35:43,793 --> 00:35:44,794 I mean-- - Thank you, Karma. 954 00:35:45,012 --> 00:35:46,231 - Three hundred? - I mean, yeah. 955 00:35:46,448 --> 00:35:47,840 Pierce 'em. Pierce those nipples. 956 00:35:47,841 --> 00:35:49,016 We need those for, uh-- we need the tits for-- 957 00:35:49,190 --> 00:35:50,538 - In the clubhouse. - BravoCon. 958 00:35:50,539 --> 00:35:51,800 - Well, I-- well, I saved them. - Oh, good. 959 00:35:51,801 --> 00:35:52,888 Oh, I was hoping one day they could, like, 960 00:35:52,889 --> 00:35:54,064 live in the clubhouse. - Oh, great. 961 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,155 Um, Jesse, Andrea from Brooklyn, New York 962 00:35:57,329 --> 00:35:58,852 wants to know whose cardboard cutout 963 00:35:59,069 --> 00:36:00,375 got the most action. 964 00:36:00,593 --> 00:36:03,161 Oh, man, I think everybody got a fair share. 965 00:36:03,378 --> 00:36:04,249 - I think Lindsay. - Carl got a hand job. 966 00:36:04,466 --> 00:36:06,512 Yeah. 967 00:36:08,166 --> 00:36:09,776 - Lindsay-- - I-I gave a lot of hand jobs. 968 00:36:09,993 --> 00:36:12,822 I tried to put that on TikTok, and it censored it. 969 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,389 Mia, Abbey from Virginia said, 970 00:36:14,607 --> 00:36:16,913 "You've been such an amazing addition to the cast 971 00:36:17,131 --> 00:36:18,610 and your friendship with Ciara. 972 00:36:18,611 --> 00:36:22,354 The support, deep love, and loyalty is pure goals." 973 00:36:22,571 --> 00:36:23,616 And you live in the same building. 974 00:36:23,833 --> 00:36:24,920 - We sure do. - Mm-hmm. 975 00:36:24,921 --> 00:36:26,226 - Okay, I love it. - We love it. 976 00:36:26,227 --> 00:36:28,534 We love it and I'm just so thankful I have her, 977 00:36:28,751 --> 00:36:31,189 especially at this point of my life 978 00:36:31,406 --> 00:36:33,495 where I feel like I've lost so much. 979 00:36:33,713 --> 00:36:35,715 It feels so incredible to feel like 980 00:36:35,932 --> 00:36:38,761 I have something that I know I can depend on 981 00:36:38,979 --> 00:36:40,285 and rely on and who is always 982 00:36:40,502 --> 00:36:42,112 gonna be there for me. - Mmm. 983 00:36:42,287 --> 00:36:44,027 I know I speak for everyone, Mia, 984 00:36:44,202 --> 00:36:47,466 when I say how touched I was when you shared stories 985 00:36:47,683 --> 00:36:50,469 about your beautiful mom and your struggles, uh, 986 00:36:50,686 --> 00:36:52,165 since her passing. 987 00:36:52,166 --> 00:36:56,083 We got a lot of messages of gratitude from viewers. 988 00:36:56,257 --> 00:36:59,217 Melissa from Anchorage said, "Did visiting a psychic help, 989 00:36:59,434 --> 00:37:03,221 or was the heartbreak it brought on too intense?" 990 00:37:03,438 --> 00:37:05,223 It's an interesting question. - Yeah. 991 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,139 I think, for me, I needed that. 992 00:37:09,314 --> 00:37:13,187 I was so worried and hearing that my mom was okay, 993 00:37:13,361 --> 00:37:17,626 wherever she is, just meant the world to me. 994 00:37:17,844 --> 00:37:24,242 How is your journey processing the grief going? 995 00:37:24,459 --> 00:37:25,634 - Every day is different. - Yeah. 996 00:37:25,852 --> 00:37:27,113 It-it really is a journey. 997 00:37:27,114 --> 00:37:30,509 Some days, I'm really smiley and excited, 998 00:37:30,726 --> 00:37:32,772 and I feel incredible. 999 00:37:32,989 --> 00:37:34,687 And then other days-- I'm gonna be honest-- 1000 00:37:34,904 --> 00:37:37,603 I feel completely stuck, and I can't get off my couch 1001 00:37:37,820 --> 00:37:41,433 because I'm so sad, and I feel so alone. 1002 00:37:41,650 --> 00:37:46,960 But I just try and almost live for my mom and my dad 1003 00:37:47,177 --> 00:37:48,788 and do all the things that I can 1004 00:37:49,005 --> 00:37:50,833 that I know they would want me to do. 1005 00:37:51,051 --> 00:37:52,225 The summer found you 1006 00:37:52,226 --> 00:37:54,097 at something of a fork in the road, 1007 00:37:54,272 --> 00:37:55,577 uh, in your relationship with Scott. 1008 00:37:55,795 --> 00:37:57,231 Yeah. 1009 00:37:57,405 --> 00:37:59,146 How did that play out? 1010 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,018 So, after the summer, we broke up shortly after. 1011 00:38:02,236 --> 00:38:03,367 - You did. - We did. 1012 00:38:03,368 --> 00:38:04,499 And how long had you been together? 1013 00:38:04,717 --> 00:38:05,805 - A few years. - Okay. 1014 00:38:06,022 --> 00:38:07,415 Did you instigate that breakup? 1015 00:38:07,633 --> 00:38:08,982 - I always do. - You always do. 1016 00:38:09,199 --> 00:38:10,549 - Yeah, I'm the breaker upper. - You are. 1017 00:38:10,766 --> 00:38:12,115 - Yeah, I am. - Wow. 1018 00:38:12,290 --> 00:38:15,815 Ciara, what is single Mia like? 1019 00:38:16,032 --> 00:38:17,512 I mean, I saw her at "Watch What Happens Live", 1020 00:38:17,730 --> 00:38:19,775 and she was on one. So... 1021 00:38:19,993 --> 00:38:22,169 Oh, my God, look at her. Look at her. 1022 00:38:22,343 --> 00:38:23,475 What are you doing? What was happening? 1023 00:38:23,692 --> 00:38:24,998 Mia-- she loves strays. 1024 00:38:25,215 --> 00:38:27,000 I'm like, stop talking to everyone. 1025 00:38:27,217 --> 00:38:28,566 I do. I love to talk to people. 1026 00:38:28,567 --> 00:38:29,958 Like, she loves to talk to everyone. I'm like, 1027 00:38:29,959 --> 00:38:30,090 can we just talk to our group? - I can't help it. 1028 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,265 - The strays. - I do. 1029 00:38:32,266 --> 00:38:33,179 She's like, "Oh, my God, what's your name?" 1030 00:38:33,180 --> 00:38:34,093 Are you looking for the one, 1031 00:38:34,094 --> 00:38:35,313 or to have fun, right now? 1032 00:38:35,530 --> 00:38:36,836 I'm not looking for anyone, right now. 1033 00:38:37,053 --> 00:38:38,271 Okay. 1034 00:38:38,272 --> 00:38:39,838 I'm just looking to pour into myself. 1035 00:38:39,839 --> 00:38:42,232 I think it's unhealthy to go from one serious relationship 1036 00:38:42,407 --> 00:38:43,930 to another. 1037 00:38:44,147 --> 00:38:46,149 Like, I just-- like, let's pump the brakes. 1038 00:38:46,324 --> 00:38:49,675 Let's just celebrate me. 1039 00:38:49,892 --> 00:38:51,981 So, Ben, watching back the season, 1040 00:38:52,199 --> 00:38:54,984 did you have any idea that Bailey had 1041 00:38:55,202 --> 00:38:57,204 that big of a crush on you? 1042 00:38:57,378 --> 00:38:58,813 I can never have that long of a conversation 1043 00:38:58,814 --> 00:39:00,250 with Australian Matthew McConaughey ever again. 1044 00:39:00,425 --> 00:39:03,341 - Are you in love? - Physically, yes, very much, 1045 00:39:03,558 --> 00:39:05,168 but look at that man. 1046 00:39:05,343 --> 00:39:08,520 Uh, no, I did not. 1047 00:39:08,737 --> 00:39:09,651 He said, "Period, end of sentence." 1048 00:39:09,869 --> 00:39:11,436 - Yeah, no. - Period. 1049 00:39:11,653 --> 00:39:14,177 Um, Bailey, let's talk about Amanda's birthday dinner 1050 00:39:14,352 --> 00:39:16,876 because what started as a celebration 1051 00:39:17,093 --> 00:39:18,616 really turned into 1052 00:39:18,617 --> 00:39:21,968 one of the most uncomfortable moments of the summer. 1053 00:39:22,185 --> 00:39:24,623 Uh, you accused Ben of wanting to sleep with Amanda. 1054 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,974 Do you think the comment came from frustration, 1055 00:39:28,191 --> 00:39:31,064 or jealousy, or a mistimed joke, or what? 1056 00:39:31,281 --> 00:39:34,372 It 10,000% did not come from jealousy. 1057 00:39:34,546 --> 00:39:37,375 I was not trying to upset Amanda 1058 00:39:37,549 --> 00:39:39,377 at her birthday dinner, or insult her, 1059 00:39:39,594 --> 00:39:41,901 and that is what I felt the most horrible about. 1060 00:39:42,118 --> 00:39:43,511 I had been in a plant costume for three hours. 1061 00:39:43,729 --> 00:39:45,252 I was very hot and dehydrated, 1062 00:39:45,426 --> 00:39:46,601 and I thought I was being, like, silly 1063 00:39:46,819 --> 00:39:48,472 'cause he was talking about her looks. 1064 00:39:48,473 --> 00:39:51,084 And I felt like, as I said, I felt like they joked about it. 1065 00:39:51,301 --> 00:39:53,216 I felt like because of the skinny dipping thing, 1066 00:39:53,391 --> 00:39:56,394 they had, like, a rapport about it. 1067 00:39:56,568 --> 00:39:59,875 So, we met at a wedding in Italy last year. 1068 00:40:00,093 --> 00:40:01,223 Okay. 1069 00:40:01,224 --> 00:40:03,096 And then it was us who basically... 1070 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,752 We, yeah, we were up. Yeah, we stayed up. 1071 00:40:06,969 --> 00:40:07,709 - No, it was great. - Yeah, we had a good time. 1072 00:40:07,927 --> 00:40:09,231 Yeah. 1073 00:40:09,232 --> 00:40:10,190 Did you guys go to an orgy or something? 1074 00:40:10,408 --> 00:40:11,800 - Yeah. - It sounded like it. 1075 00:40:12,018 --> 00:40:14,412 It's that European water. 1076 00:40:14,629 --> 00:40:16,544 Ben, Lucia from Seattle, uh, said, 1077 00:40:16,762 --> 00:40:18,720 "You reacted to Bailey's innocuous joke 1078 00:40:18,938 --> 00:40:20,243 with such fervor. 1079 00:40:20,418 --> 00:40:23,943 Do you have anger issues?" 1080 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:25,553 Ben? I'm just kidding. 1081 00:40:25,771 --> 00:40:27,119 Um, look, it caught me-- it caught me off guard. 1082 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,645 I definitely felt, uh, hurt and misunderstood 1083 00:40:30,863 --> 00:40:32,473 because that's something that, you know, 1084 00:40:32,691 --> 00:40:34,954 had never crossed my mind. I would never do that. 1085 00:40:35,171 --> 00:40:38,305 And, you know, calling it out in front of everybody, 1086 00:40:38,479 --> 00:40:39,915 I was like-- 1087 00:40:40,133 --> 00:40:41,439 so, Bailey and I hadn't had a conversation, 1088 00:40:41,613 --> 00:40:42,918 I guess, for the whole summer, 1089 00:40:43,136 --> 00:40:44,877 and if you felt that maybe that's-- 1090 00:40:45,094 --> 00:40:46,444 A conversation about that or a conversation, in general? 1091 00:40:46,618 --> 00:40:48,533 - Anything, any conversation. - What? 1092 00:40:48,750 --> 00:40:50,404 Yeah. So, if you kind of wanted to get to know me-- 1093 00:40:50,578 --> 00:40:52,014 - Are you fucking joking? - Just hear me out. 1094 00:40:52,232 --> 00:40:53,493 - We haven't had a conversation? - Well-- 1095 00:40:53,494 --> 00:40:54,887 The first weekend, it was just me, you, 1096 00:40:55,104 --> 00:40:57,237 KJ, and Levi. We're all the newbies. 1097 00:40:57,455 --> 00:40:58,803 We definitely knew each other. 1098 00:40:58,804 --> 00:41:00,108 I've got pictures of just the three of us out. 1099 00:41:00,109 --> 00:41:01,676 - Yeah, okay. - You like to reprimand women. 1100 00:41:01,894 --> 00:41:03,722 That was your problem. - No, no, no, no. 1101 00:41:03,939 --> 00:41:04,940 You reprimanded her, and I don't like fucking like 1102 00:41:05,158 --> 00:41:06,332 the way you talk to Sabrina, 1103 00:41:06,333 --> 00:41:06,985 and I don't like the way you talk to me 1104 00:41:06,986 --> 00:41:08,466 and your bullshit. 1105 00:41:16,038 --> 00:41:17,909 - Just hear me out. - We haven't had a conversation? 1106 00:41:17,910 --> 00:41:18,997 The first weekend, 1107 00:41:18,998 --> 00:41:21,261 it was just me, you, KJ, and Levi. 1108 00:41:21,479 --> 00:41:22,479 We're all the newbies. 1109 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:23,828 We definitely knew each other. 1110 00:41:23,829 --> 00:41:25,133 I've got pictures of just the three of us out. 1111 00:41:25,134 --> 00:41:26,484 - Yeah, okay. - You like to reprimand women. 1112 00:41:26,701 --> 00:41:28,223 That was your problem. - No, no, no, no. 1113 00:41:28,224 --> 00:41:29,660 You reprimanded her, and I don't like fucking like 1114 00:41:29,661 --> 00:41:30,661 the way you talk to Sabrina, and I don't like the way 1115 00:41:30,662 --> 00:41:31,705 you talk to me and your bullshit. 1116 00:41:31,706 --> 00:41:32,793 Wait, Sabrina has had nothing 1117 00:41:32,794 --> 00:41:33,707 but have your back the whole time. 1118 00:41:33,708 --> 00:41:35,013 - I adore Sabrina. - Yeah. 1119 00:41:35,014 --> 00:41:36,580 Adore. I think she could do better than you. 1120 00:41:36,581 --> 00:41:38,365 - Okay, so, listen. - You talk to Sabrina like shit. 1121 00:41:38,539 --> 00:41:39,497 I didn't say anything was wrong with Sabrina. 1122 00:41:39,671 --> 00:41:41,062 Sabrina is exquisite. 1123 00:41:41,063 --> 00:41:42,238 I've watched you talking to her, and I was like, 1124 00:41:42,456 --> 00:41:44,763 why does this guy only pop off on women? 1125 00:41:44,980 --> 00:41:46,547 Sabrina Belle, please do me a favor. 1126 00:41:46,765 --> 00:41:48,723 - Okay. - Get ready. 1127 00:41:48,941 --> 00:41:50,377 God forbid we ever fucking have children, 1128 00:41:50,551 --> 00:41:52,031 and we're trying to get them to school. 1129 00:41:52,248 --> 00:41:53,248 When you talk to Kyle, you look like 1130 00:41:53,249 --> 00:41:54,512 you're gonna make out with him, 1131 00:41:54,686 --> 00:41:57,210 no matter how in the wrong he is. 1132 00:42:07,525 --> 00:42:08,395 But she did something you didn't like. 1133 00:42:08,569 --> 00:42:09,613 Reprimand. 1134 00:42:09,614 --> 00:42:10,309 I did something you didn't like. 1135 00:42:10,310 --> 00:42:11,440 Reprimand. - No. 1136 00:42:11,441 --> 00:42:12,833 Yeah, you get this, like, face. 1137 00:42:12,834 --> 00:42:12,965 Sabrina says something you don't like. Reprimand. 1138 00:42:13,792 --> 00:42:15,054 You only reprimand women. 1139 00:42:15,271 --> 00:42:16,533 So someone that I didn't know, 1140 00:42:16,534 --> 00:42:18,536 you didn't know me either, calling that out 1141 00:42:18,710 --> 00:42:19,537 with something that I would never do 1142 00:42:19,754 --> 00:42:20,885 'cause I'm boys with Kyle, 1143 00:42:20,886 --> 00:42:23,671 and Amanda and I, we're friends, um, 1144 00:42:23,889 --> 00:42:25,499 and, sure, I treated her as one of the guys, 1145 00:42:25,673 --> 00:42:27,240 as one of the boys. That's what I thought she was. 1146 00:42:27,457 --> 00:42:29,198 So, you-you calling that out, 1147 00:42:29,416 --> 00:42:31,113 I wish you had spoken to me first and said, 1148 00:42:31,331 --> 00:42:32,418 "Listen, I think"-- - 'Cause I don't give a fuck 1149 00:42:32,419 --> 00:42:33,593 if you wanna or not fuck Amanda. 1150 00:42:33,594 --> 00:42:34,900 I also think the reason he got so mad 1151 00:42:35,117 --> 00:42:37,119 was because he was dating Sabrina the whole time, 1152 00:42:37,337 --> 00:42:39,121 but neither here nor there. 1153 00:42:39,339 --> 00:42:40,253 I feel like a lot of guys in this house 1154 00:42:40,470 --> 00:42:43,125 have secret girlfriends. 1155 00:42:43,343 --> 00:42:44,691 Show of hands. 1156 00:42:44,692 --> 00:42:46,476 Who thinks that Ben had a secret girlfriend 1157 00:42:46,651 --> 00:42:48,957 the whole summer? - You definitely did. 1158 00:42:49,175 --> 00:42:51,699 There's a picture of them in June on her Instagram. 1159 00:42:51,917 --> 00:42:53,832 - Oh. - In bed. 1160 00:42:55,834 --> 00:42:57,096 - We film in July. - Anyway-- 1161 00:42:57,313 --> 00:42:58,879 Bailey, you were completely turned off 1162 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,535 when Ben raised his voice, but when Carl lost his cool 1163 00:43:01,709 --> 00:43:03,493 later in the season, you were attracted to him. 1164 00:43:03,668 --> 00:43:05,278 - Wanted to make out with him. - Because-- 1165 00:43:05,495 --> 00:43:06,888 Yes, I did because he wasn't yelling at me, 1166 00:43:07,106 --> 00:43:08,673 a woman, you jackass. - No. 1167 00:43:08,890 --> 00:43:10,456 What do you think? 1168 00:43:10,457 --> 00:43:11,762 He was yelling at fucking Kyle for screaming at a woman. 1169 00:43:11,763 --> 00:43:12,806 He was defending a woman. - You were saying-- 1170 00:43:12,807 --> 00:43:14,199 you were saying that he was angry. 1171 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:15,374 Isn't that what turned you on? - It was hot. 1172 00:43:15,375 --> 00:43:16,680 You were saying the same thing about me. 1173 00:43:16,681 --> 00:43:18,072 I did not get turned on by you being angry. 1174 00:43:18,073 --> 00:43:19,292 I thought you were the biggest piece of shit ever. 1175 00:43:20,946 --> 00:43:23,601 Um, Carl, what started as a surprise connection 1176 00:43:23,818 --> 00:43:25,559 between you and Bailey made for 1177 00:43:25,733 --> 00:43:28,040 some of the sweetest moments of the summer. 1178 00:43:28,257 --> 00:43:30,912 What was it about Bailey that caught your eye? 1179 00:43:31,130 --> 00:43:33,567 I mean, she's easy to talk to, great personality. 1180 00:43:33,741 --> 00:43:35,656 I think she's very in touch with her emotions 1181 00:43:35,874 --> 00:43:37,440 and, like, very emotionally intelligent. 1182 00:43:37,615 --> 00:43:39,965 But I do-- I think you guys have, like, 1183 00:43:40,182 --> 00:43:41,706 the same kind of quirky, weird energy. 1184 00:43:41,923 --> 00:43:42,924 - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yes. 1185 00:43:43,142 --> 00:43:44,317 We're goofy and a little quirky. 1186 00:43:44,534 --> 00:43:45,622 - Yeah. - And I appreciate 1187 00:43:45,623 --> 00:43:47,799 your trauma dumping 'cause I do-- 1188 00:43:48,016 --> 00:43:49,278 I do the same. - That's cute. 1189 00:43:49,496 --> 00:43:51,411 I don't think I fully was clocking 1190 00:43:51,629 --> 00:43:53,108 some of the energy towards us, 1191 00:43:53,326 --> 00:43:55,154 like, until maybe the last weekend. 1192 00:43:55,371 --> 00:43:57,635 I've always maybe been a little cautious in the house, 1193 00:43:57,809 --> 00:43:59,854 um, for obvious reasons. 1194 00:44:00,072 --> 00:44:02,640 So, I was just trying to kind of play it cool. 1195 00:44:02,814 --> 00:44:04,946 So, where do things stand between the two of you today? 1196 00:44:05,164 --> 00:44:06,687 Did it ever lift off? 1197 00:44:06,905 --> 00:44:08,820 I mean, we've-we've hung out, you know, in the fall. 1198 00:44:09,037 --> 00:44:10,125 We've hung out a fair amount of times. 1199 00:44:10,343 --> 00:44:11,518 I mean, I love our friendship. 1200 00:44:11,692 --> 00:44:13,433 I think, I mean, to completely honest, 1201 00:44:13,651 --> 00:44:14,825 in the fall, I had-- 1202 00:44:14,826 --> 00:44:16,566 I was opening my business officially. 1203 00:44:16,741 --> 00:44:18,394 I haven't really been prioritizing, like, 1204 00:44:18,612 --> 00:44:20,614 a dating relationship, just more flirting, 1205 00:44:20,788 --> 00:44:22,007 having fun. Um-- 1206 00:44:22,224 --> 00:44:23,661 Carl loves things soft, you know. 1207 00:44:23,835 --> 00:44:25,139 Nice and soft. 1208 00:44:25,140 --> 00:44:27,229 Bailey, did, uh, you take Lindsay's advice 1209 00:44:27,447 --> 00:44:28,753 and send Carl nudes? 1210 00:44:28,970 --> 00:44:30,842 I did not send Carl a nude because I thought 1211 00:44:31,059 --> 00:44:31,712 that would be insane. - Okay. 1212 00:44:33,061 --> 00:44:34,323 It might be hard, at that point. 1213 00:44:34,541 --> 00:44:35,890 Um, but I have spent a lot of time with him 1214 00:44:36,108 --> 00:44:37,631 and, um, love him and adore him so much. 1215 00:44:37,805 --> 00:44:39,285 Hard Bar. 1216 00:44:39,502 --> 00:44:43,245 But, no, I have not unsolicited sent him a nude. 1217 00:44:43,463 --> 00:44:45,683 If she sent you a nude, what would you do? 1218 00:44:45,857 --> 00:44:48,990 He'd open up Hard Bar. 1219 00:44:49,208 --> 00:44:50,469 He stole that from me. 1220 00:44:50,470 --> 00:44:52,037 Give credit where credit is due, please. 1221 00:44:52,254 --> 00:44:53,515 - OMG. - Hey, you two-- 1222 00:44:53,516 --> 00:44:54,735 you two next to each other are dangerous. 1223 00:44:54,953 --> 00:44:56,431 - No, we are. We are. - That's so funny. 1224 00:44:56,432 --> 00:44:59,958 Um, show of hands, who-who ships Bailey and Carl? 1225 00:45:00,175 --> 00:45:02,177 Sometimes it's good to be friends with someone 1226 00:45:02,395 --> 00:45:04,353 before you start dating. 1227 00:45:04,571 --> 00:45:07,617 - That's crazy. - Sometimes. 1228 00:45:07,792 --> 00:45:09,141 Wait, I do have a question, though, Carl, 1229 00:45:09,358 --> 00:45:11,099 because I was talking to Bailey. 1230 00:45:11,317 --> 00:45:13,928 She would go for it. Would you go for it? 1231 00:45:14,146 --> 00:45:15,495 Ooh, hotseat. 1232 00:45:15,713 --> 00:45:17,715 I mean, I think I would, 1233 00:45:17,889 --> 00:45:19,281 but I-I feel like where we are, right now, 1234 00:45:19,499 --> 00:45:21,457 I'm just liking the friendship and-- 1235 00:45:21,675 --> 00:45:22,632 And we're in very different places 1236 00:45:22,807 --> 00:45:24,111 in our lives. - Totally. 1237 00:45:24,112 --> 00:45:25,504 You're a lot-- you're a lot older than me. 1238 00:45:25,505 --> 00:45:27,027 I-I will say that's probably something I think 1239 00:45:27,028 --> 00:45:27,898 I forget about it, is just, like, the age difference. 1240 00:45:27,899 --> 00:45:29,161 - Yeah. - How old are you? 1241 00:45:29,378 --> 00:45:31,511 - I'm 31. - And I'm 41. 1242 00:45:31,729 --> 00:45:32,554 - Oh, okay, ten years. Big deal. - That's not that bad. 1243 00:45:32,555 --> 00:45:34,122 But I feel like mentally 1244 00:45:34,340 --> 00:45:36,081 he's in a place of, like, wanting to be married 1245 00:45:36,298 --> 00:45:37,646 and, like, knows exactly what he wants. 1246 00:45:37,647 --> 00:45:38,736 Yeah, I'm not just trying to fuck around. 1247 00:45:38,953 --> 00:45:40,389 Like, I really wanna date seriously, 1248 00:45:40,607 --> 00:45:41,739 and get married, and have a family, at some point. 1249 00:45:41,913 --> 00:45:43,043 Right. 1250 00:45:43,044 --> 00:45:44,479 But I don't want to waste my time. 1251 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:45,699 Like, just random hookups, like, that was maybe me 1252 00:45:45,873 --> 00:45:47,092 in the past when I was drinking and using, 1253 00:45:47,309 --> 00:45:49,485 but even in the last two years, 1254 00:45:49,703 --> 00:45:51,051 like, I've really tried to, 1255 00:45:51,052 --> 00:45:52,357 like, get to know someone and feel comfortable. 1256 00:45:52,358 --> 00:45:53,619 And I've said this. Like, when you're sober 1257 00:45:53,620 --> 00:45:55,578 and hooking up, like, for the first time, 1258 00:45:55,753 --> 00:45:57,101 it's, like, a little... - Yeah. 1259 00:45:57,102 --> 00:45:59,321 ...it's like learning how to walk, again. 1260 00:45:59,539 --> 00:46:00,148 And you need to be comfortable with that person. 1261 00:46:00,366 --> 00:46:01,758 - Yeah. - Yeah. 1262 00:46:01,759 --> 00:46:02,498 And, not that I'm not comfortable with you, 1263 00:46:02,716 --> 00:46:04,065 but it just, I think, 1264 00:46:04,283 --> 00:46:05,197 takes time to kind of build to there. 1265 00:46:05,414 --> 00:46:08,069 Hmm. 1266 00:46:08,287 --> 00:46:13,379 KJ, you called Ciara and Mia your sisters for life. 1267 00:46:13,596 --> 00:46:15,120 Fans loved it. 1268 00:46:15,337 --> 00:46:17,209 Which one is giving tough love, 1269 00:46:17,426 --> 00:46:20,778 and which one is letting you get away with everything? 1270 00:46:20,995 --> 00:46:22,388 Neither one of us. 1271 00:46:22,605 --> 00:46:25,434 - Neither of one us. - Uh, I don't know 'cause-- 1272 00:46:25,652 --> 00:46:27,219 I feel like we both really tough love. 1273 00:46:27,436 --> 00:46:28,960 I got a bunch of tattoos during the fall-winter. 1274 00:46:29,177 --> 00:46:30,657 - And piercings. - Yeah, piercings. 1275 00:46:30,831 --> 00:46:32,615 And I-- and piercings, too, 1276 00:46:32,790 --> 00:46:34,530 and me and Mia went out to coffee, 1277 00:46:34,748 --> 00:46:37,229 and she's like, "Did you get another tattoo?" 1278 00:46:37,446 --> 00:46:38,665 - I was so upset. - Yeah. 1279 00:46:38,839 --> 00:46:40,144 - Don't get one more tattoo. - And I'm-- 1280 00:46:40,145 --> 00:46:41,929 and then she saw me again and was just like, 1281 00:46:42,147 --> 00:46:43,931 "Did you get another--" like, it's like clocking me. 1282 00:46:44,149 --> 00:46:46,673 Ciara, though, I'll go to events, 1283 00:46:46,847 --> 00:46:48,065 and then people will be like, 1284 00:46:48,066 --> 00:46:49,632 "Yeah, Ciara told us to check in on you 1285 00:46:49,807 --> 00:46:51,025 "and make sure you're good here." 1286 00:46:51,243 --> 00:46:52,244 So, she's always watching over me. 1287 00:46:52,461 --> 00:46:53,679 I'm always watching. 1288 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,421 So, they both give it to me equally. 1289 00:46:55,638 --> 00:46:56,943 KJ, you've been very vocal 1290 00:46:56,944 --> 00:46:59,338 about, uh, your anxiety and mental health, 1291 00:46:59,555 --> 00:47:01,253 which people have really admired. 1292 00:47:01,470 --> 00:47:04,299 Um, what's been your reaction to the support you've gotten 1293 00:47:04,517 --> 00:47:05,735 from-from viewers? 1294 00:47:05,910 --> 00:47:06,911 I didn't expect it. 1295 00:47:07,128 --> 00:47:08,347 Um, in the fall, 1296 00:47:08,564 --> 00:47:11,916 I went through some heavy stuff mentally. 1297 00:47:12,133 --> 00:47:15,484 Um, I actually had to go to the hospital 1298 00:47:15,702 --> 00:47:18,270 for, um, self-harm, 1299 00:47:18,487 --> 00:47:21,142 and, uh, I was there for a week. 1300 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,624 Mia and Ciara were there almost every day. 1301 00:47:24,842 --> 00:47:28,149 And, uh... 1302 00:47:31,022 --> 00:47:32,110 Then I went to recovery, 1303 00:47:32,327 --> 00:47:35,026 um, and that solidified it for me. 1304 00:47:35,243 --> 00:47:37,985 I was there for a few months. 1305 00:47:38,203 --> 00:47:40,553 I got to focus on myself, 1306 00:47:40,770 --> 00:47:44,731 and, uh, I needed that because I think, 1307 00:47:44,905 --> 00:47:47,647 my whole life, I distracted myself 1308 00:47:47,865 --> 00:47:49,910 and ran away from my issues 1309 00:47:50,128 --> 00:47:52,217 instead of facing them head on. 1310 00:47:52,434 --> 00:47:54,872 But now, I'm, um, better. 1311 00:47:55,089 --> 00:47:58,005 I'm in therapy, and I'm on medication. 1312 00:47:58,223 --> 00:48:00,181 I got diagnosed with BPD 1313 00:48:00,399 --> 00:48:02,836 when I was, um, in the hospital, 1314 00:48:03,010 --> 00:48:07,710 and, uh, yeah, I'm-I'm grateful that I'm here, 1315 00:48:07,885 --> 00:48:11,236 alive, 'cause I could have not been. 1316 00:48:11,453 --> 00:48:14,456 And, um, I'm thankful for just, like, 1317 00:48:14,674 --> 00:48:15,893 the support of my friends. 1318 00:48:16,110 --> 00:48:19,157 Like, everyone here has somewhat shown support 1319 00:48:19,374 --> 00:48:21,899 in their own way, so I appreciate that, 1320 00:48:22,073 --> 00:48:25,903 and, um, I'm very thankful that the audience is just, 1321 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,471 um, embracing that because it's my truth. 1322 00:48:29,689 --> 00:48:32,692 You know, and I'm not gonna not be honest about 1323 00:48:32,910 --> 00:48:34,650 what I go through if-- 1324 00:48:34,868 --> 00:48:37,001 especially if it can help others. 1325 00:48:37,218 --> 00:48:38,611 - Thank you for sharing that. - Yeah, thanks. 1326 00:48:38,828 --> 00:48:40,656 - Yeah. - Love you, bro. Well said. 1327 00:48:40,874 --> 00:48:42,441 Jesse, I can see that you're moved. 1328 00:48:42,658 --> 00:48:44,138 I mean, it's a moving story. 1329 00:48:44,356 --> 00:48:46,619 I'm just-- I-I-- I feel for you, 1330 00:48:46,836 --> 00:48:48,534 and I'm-I'm glad you're-you're good 1331 00:48:48,751 --> 00:48:50,536 'cause I don't want anybody to go through that. 1332 00:48:50,753 --> 00:48:52,059 Thanks, man. 1333 00:48:52,277 --> 00:48:53,974 So, I'm happy he's feeling better. 1334 00:48:54,192 --> 00:48:55,540 Thank you. 1335 00:48:55,541 --> 00:48:56,802 You're gonna keep doing great stuff, man. 1336 00:48:56,803 --> 00:48:57,803 Yeah, thank you, everyone in this room. 1337 00:48:57,804 --> 00:48:58,544 No, we love you, dude, for real. 1338 00:48:58,761 --> 00:49:00,067 Seriously, thank you. 1339 00:49:00,285 --> 00:49:01,764 We're gonna take a break. 1340 00:49:01,939 --> 00:49:04,898 We'll be right back. 1341 00:49:14,299 --> 00:49:17,780 Five, four, three. 1342 00:49:17,955 --> 00:49:19,086 Welcome back. 1343 00:49:19,304 --> 00:49:20,958 Ciara vowed to go into this summer 1344 00:49:21,175 --> 00:49:22,742 with fewer walls up, 1345 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,311 even as she successfully put a very meaningful roof 1346 00:49:26,528 --> 00:49:29,314 over her head in North Carolina. 1347 00:49:29,531 --> 00:49:32,230 And whether she was being a steady support system 1348 00:49:32,447 --> 00:49:35,973 for Amanda or reopening the door to West, 1349 00:49:36,147 --> 00:49:40,107 Ciara moved through the summer with a new level of grace. 1350 00:49:40,325 --> 00:49:43,067 Uh, Ciara, Bethany from Bend, Oregon said, 1351 00:49:43,284 --> 00:49:44,807 “Seeing you and your mom in North Carolina together 1352 00:49:44,982 --> 00:49:47,593 "was so intimate, and it showed us a side of you 1353 00:49:47,810 --> 00:49:49,290 "we've never really seen before, 1354 00:49:49,508 --> 00:49:53,512 "one rooted in family and breaking walls down.” 1355 00:49:53,729 --> 00:49:56,080 I know where you came from, 1356 00:49:56,297 --> 00:50:00,127 and I see where you are, and I'm just, you know, 1357 00:50:00,345 --> 00:50:01,955 really proud of that. 1358 00:50:02,129 --> 00:50:03,826 Just keep-keep doing more. - Thanks, Sheila Miller. 1359 00:50:04,001 --> 00:50:05,437 Yes, keep doing more, dear. 1360 00:50:05,654 --> 00:50:08,179 What's the update on your grandparents' home? 1361 00:50:08,396 --> 00:50:11,225 I'm, uh, slowly doing renovations. 1362 00:50:11,443 --> 00:50:13,097 Um, I've honestly let my mom 1363 00:50:13,314 --> 00:50:14,620 kind of take over the project. 1364 00:50:14,837 --> 00:50:16,970 She loves this, like, home renovation field. 1365 00:50:17,144 --> 00:50:18,666 Oh, good. 1366 00:50:18,667 --> 00:50:20,626 And she, like, would call me a million times a day 1367 00:50:20,843 --> 00:50:22,106 about what I need to be doing, and I was like, 1368 00:50:22,323 --> 00:50:24,021 “Why don't you just do it, and I'll--" 1369 00:50:24,238 --> 00:50:25,325 I think that's amazing. 1370 00:50:25,326 --> 00:50:26,457 She's like your general contractor. 1371 00:50:26,458 --> 00:50:27,327 - Yeah, GM. - Just literally, like, 1372 00:50:27,328 --> 00:50:28,677 overseeing the whole thing. 1373 00:50:28,895 --> 00:50:30,331 Like, she got all the plumbing done in the house. 1374 00:50:30,549 --> 00:50:31,767 But, like, the house had mold. 1375 00:50:31,985 --> 00:50:32,986 It needed all new plumbing, electrical. 1376 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:34,291 Oh, my God, yeah. 1377 00:50:34,292 --> 00:50:35,683 - Wow. - It needs foundation work. 1378 00:50:35,684 --> 00:50:37,904 But I'm really excited about the project, though. 1379 00:50:38,078 --> 00:50:39,209 - That's great. - And so is my mom, 1380 00:50:39,210 --> 00:50:40,385 even more than me. - That's great. 1381 00:50:40,602 --> 00:50:41,733 - Yeah. - Oh, that's good. 1382 00:50:41,734 --> 00:50:42,821 And she's a little closer than you. 1383 00:50:42,822 --> 00:50:42,952 So, it's gonna bring you together. 1384 00:50:43,779 --> 00:50:43,953 - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah. 1385 00:50:45,129 --> 00:50:45,259 Like, I think it'll be a great project 1386 00:50:46,304 --> 00:50:46,434 for the both of us, but, also, 1387 00:50:47,740 --> 00:50:47,870 we get to build new memories in this house, 1388 00:50:48,915 --> 00:50:49,307 as we build this house together. 1389 00:50:49,524 --> 00:50:51,134 So, yeah. 1390 00:50:51,135 --> 00:50:54,790 Did that trip home shift anything for you emotionally? 1391 00:50:55,008 --> 00:50:58,490 Yeah, it's like this time is so short, like, 1392 00:50:58,707 --> 00:51:01,362 with your parents and-and in this life, 1393 00:51:01,580 --> 00:51:05,323 and, like, even though, like, we have so many complexities 1394 00:51:05,540 --> 00:51:08,239 of, like, the family dynamics, it's, like, I love my mom, 1395 00:51:08,456 --> 00:51:11,416 and I want to be able to spend as much time with her 1396 00:51:11,633 --> 00:51:13,026 as I can, like, in the future, 1397 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:14,810 and I want my kids to be close to her. 1398 00:51:15,028 --> 00:51:17,857 And I, like, want to create a space where, like, 1399 00:51:18,075 --> 00:51:21,252 people can come together, and it's, like, a position 1400 00:51:21,469 --> 00:51:22,383 I never thought I would never be in. 1401 00:51:22,601 --> 00:51:24,167 So, it was nice. 1402 00:51:24,168 --> 00:51:27,171 So, is your dad aware that you purchased the house? 1403 00:51:27,388 --> 00:51:28,737 Yeah, now he is. 1404 00:51:28,955 --> 00:51:30,652 Um, my mom actually told him before the season. 1405 00:51:30,870 --> 00:51:33,438 Okay, how did that go? 1406 00:51:33,655 --> 00:51:35,309 I think he just, like, misunderstands me 1407 00:51:35,527 --> 00:51:36,831 and my intentions. 1408 00:51:36,832 --> 00:51:37,745 I don't know if he, like, thinks it's, like, 1409 00:51:37,746 --> 00:51:39,008 the best investment property, 1410 00:51:39,183 --> 00:51:40,358 or, like, he doesn't understand 1411 00:51:40,575 --> 00:51:42,273 my attachment to the property. 1412 00:51:42,490 --> 00:51:44,013 I guess he still can't fathom, like, 1413 00:51:44,188 --> 00:51:46,190 why I would want to hold onto it. 1414 00:51:46,407 --> 00:51:47,452 I know he grew up in that house 1415 00:51:47,669 --> 00:51:50,107 but, like, me, too, you know. 1416 00:51:50,281 --> 00:51:51,846 Yeah. 1417 00:51:51,847 --> 00:51:53,675 Mia, you were the one who really pulled back the curtain 1418 00:51:53,893 --> 00:51:56,461 on how big of a deal the house was for Ciara. 1419 00:51:56,678 --> 00:51:58,550 Why was it important for the group to understand 1420 00:51:58,767 --> 00:52:01,205 what she went through to get here? 1421 00:52:01,422 --> 00:52:05,861 I think, at times, Ciara downplays her success, 1422 00:52:06,079 --> 00:52:07,776 which I can't stand. Stop doing that. 1423 00:52:07,994 --> 00:52:09,691 Okay, sorry. 1424 00:52:09,909 --> 00:52:12,477 I was with her throughout the entire process. 1425 00:52:12,694 --> 00:52:15,175 To see her actually purchase this home 1426 00:52:15,393 --> 00:52:17,046 was a huge deal for Ciara, and I just-- 1427 00:52:17,221 --> 00:52:18,265 I needed you to know that. 1428 00:52:18,483 --> 00:52:20,746 - Yeah. I love you. - Did, um-- 1429 00:52:20,963 --> 00:52:22,922 Ciara, Sydney from Belmar, New Jersey said, 1430 00:52:23,140 --> 00:52:24,575 “Not a question but as a Black woman, 1431 00:52:24,576 --> 00:52:27,274 "I need to say it's a feat to go from being capital 1432 00:52:27,492 --> 00:52:30,321 "to owning capital, only five or so generations 1433 00:52:30,538 --> 00:52:32,061 "separated from slavery. 1434 00:52:32,236 --> 00:52:34,455 "I hope you're proud of yourself." 1435 00:52:34,673 --> 00:52:37,502 That's awesome. 1436 00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:39,286 - That's really sweet. - Yeah, I'm proud of you. 1437 00:52:39,504 --> 00:52:41,332 - Thanks. - I see how hard you work, 1438 00:52:41,549 --> 00:52:43,464 and you're very humble. 1439 00:52:43,682 --> 00:52:45,727 I look up to you a lot, and I want my younger sisters 1440 00:52:45,945 --> 00:52:48,991 to be like you. - Thanks, KJ. 1441 00:52:49,166 --> 00:52:51,472 That's sweet. 1442 00:52:51,690 --> 00:52:53,387 West, was it tough to hear about the house 1443 00:52:53,605 --> 00:52:56,999 and not be able to share in her joy? 1444 00:52:57,174 --> 00:52:58,523 Yeah, originally, I didn't know about it. 1445 00:52:58,740 --> 00:53:02,962 And, uh, just knowing Ciara well enough to know 1446 00:53:03,180 --> 00:53:05,747 how important sentimental stuff like that is, yeah, 1447 00:53:05,965 --> 00:53:09,316 I was kind of out of the loop, but, uh, 1448 00:53:09,534 --> 00:53:11,144 towards the end of the summer, I ended up getting to-- 1449 00:53:11,318 --> 00:53:12,624 we had a conversation about the house, 1450 00:53:12,841 --> 00:53:16,932 and that, like, helped bring me up to speed. 1451 00:53:17,150 --> 00:53:19,631 Ciara, what made you soften at the end of the summer, 1452 00:53:19,848 --> 00:53:23,417 um, and go from being completely done with West 1453 00:53:23,635 --> 00:53:26,159 to your emotional conversation 1454 00:53:26,333 --> 00:53:30,990 where you kind of let him back in, in a way? 1455 00:53:31,208 --> 00:53:34,559 Um, I just was, like, tired of, like, 1456 00:53:34,776 --> 00:53:36,561 the energy in the house. 1457 00:53:36,778 --> 00:53:38,215 Like, I wanted us to be able to get along. 1458 00:53:38,389 --> 00:53:41,043 We were really good friends, best friends, 1459 00:53:41,218 --> 00:53:42,740 at one point in time. 1460 00:53:42,741 --> 00:53:44,786 But then it got to the point where I was like, okay, 1461 00:53:45,004 --> 00:53:47,441 I'm giving KJ advice of, like, it's better to have 1462 00:53:47,659 --> 00:53:49,095 loved and lost than never have loved at all. 1463 00:53:49,269 --> 00:53:52,925 And, like, you know, I don't want everyone to think 1464 00:53:53,142 --> 00:53:54,666 that I have this hard exterior, 1465 00:53:54,883 --> 00:53:56,189 and that's, like, all there is to me. 1466 00:53:56,363 --> 00:53:59,323 Like, I just have-- - You've been hardened. 1467 00:53:59,540 --> 00:54:02,151 It's just been hardened, and I'm tired of giving people 1468 00:54:02,326 --> 00:54:04,893 chances to, like, fuck me over. 1469 00:54:05,111 --> 00:54:07,548 So, that final night, um, of the summer, 1470 00:54:07,766 --> 00:54:09,768 the two of you made out in the backyard. 1471 00:54:09,985 --> 00:54:11,030 In the backyard. 1472 00:54:17,819 --> 00:54:20,431 Yeah, it was, like, ear-- it was, like, ear stuff. 1473 00:54:20,648 --> 00:54:22,346 Ear stuff? Is that what you said? 1474 00:54:22,563 --> 00:54:23,825 I believe so. 1475 00:54:24,043 --> 00:54:25,479 - Ear stuff? - What does that mean? 1476 00:54:25,697 --> 00:54:27,220 - Ear? Like ear licking? - Like, kissing the ears? 1477 00:54:27,394 --> 00:54:28,742 - Just, like-- - Like, eyes, nose, 1478 00:54:28,743 --> 00:54:29,830 ears, and toes? Ears? - To be honest, that-- 1479 00:54:29,831 --> 00:54:31,180 that revs my engine. So, I get it. 1480 00:54:31,355 --> 00:54:33,748 - Lobes and stuff. - You guys did ear stuff. 1481 00:54:33,966 --> 00:54:36,011 And anything else happen besides ear stuff? 1482 00:54:36,229 --> 00:54:37,361 What the fuck is ear stuff? 1483 00:54:37,578 --> 00:54:38,970 No, it was all above-above the chin. 1484 00:54:38,971 --> 00:54:40,277 If you lick my earlobe, I will get blood flow. 1485 00:54:40,451 --> 00:54:41,755 No. 1486 00:54:41,756 --> 00:54:45,325 Um, were you aware that they were, like, 1487 00:54:45,543 --> 00:54:49,286 canoodling that last weekend? - Not to that extent, no. 1488 00:54:49,503 --> 00:54:50,461 But can I be, like, a super, like-- 1489 00:54:50,678 --> 00:54:53,159 put my tinfoil cap on here? 1490 00:54:53,333 --> 00:54:55,640 Are you kind of breadcrumbing the audience? 1491 00:54:55,857 --> 00:54:57,598 Sometimes it seems like you know what to say 1492 00:54:57,816 --> 00:54:59,295 to win people over. 1493 00:54:59,296 --> 00:55:02,560 Your friends, Ciara, the audience, uh, if you're-- 1494 00:55:02,777 --> 00:55:03,778 are you kind of gettin' what I'm getting? 1495 00:55:03,996 --> 00:55:05,388 - Yeah, I agree. - Okay. 1496 00:55:05,389 --> 00:55:06,911 Yeah, like, I do feel like, at this point-- 1497 00:55:06,912 --> 00:55:08,391 - Like, was it all bullshit? - Yeah, was it all bullshit? 1498 00:55:08,392 --> 00:55:11,482 You used it for a storyline 'cause, like, honestly, 1499 00:55:11,699 --> 00:55:14,659 you and Amanda feels like the best type of revenge 1500 00:55:14,876 --> 00:55:17,792 that you could execute. 1501 00:55:18,010 --> 00:55:21,056 And, honestly, claps to you. 1502 00:55:26,758 --> 00:55:29,064 You and Amanda feels like the best type of revenge 1503 00:55:29,282 --> 00:55:30,544 that you could execute. 1504 00:55:30,762 --> 00:55:33,982 And, honestly, claps to you. 1505 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:35,505 I genuinely felt that when West was saying 1506 00:55:35,506 --> 00:55:37,334 these things to me, and-and when you guys-- 1507 00:55:37,551 --> 00:55:39,073 I genuinely felt-- - Yeah. 1508 00:55:39,074 --> 00:55:39,987 But at no point did I say we're gonna date again, 1509 00:55:39,988 --> 00:55:41,120 or I'm pursuing her. - No. 1510 00:55:41,338 --> 00:55:42,642 I said-- I gave you compliments, 1511 00:55:42,643 --> 00:55:44,384 and I do look up to you. I think you're great. 1512 00:55:44,602 --> 00:55:46,124 We had a great time together. 1513 00:55:46,125 --> 00:55:49,171 At no point have I said, "I'm trying to get Ciara back. 1514 00:55:49,346 --> 00:55:51,348 "We're going to date, again." - But the actions. 1515 00:55:51,565 --> 00:55:53,654 - No, like, I understand. - You're so full of shit. 1516 00:55:53,872 --> 00:55:56,657 He told Ben that he had a crush on me. 1517 00:56:00,618 --> 00:56:02,446 What? Wait, what? 1518 00:56:02,663 --> 00:56:04,012 What we talk about in the fucking walls 1519 00:56:04,230 --> 00:56:07,102 of my apartment stays in the fucking apartment. 1520 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:08,669 And that when we were together, 1521 00:56:08,887 --> 00:56:10,367 it was magic. 1522 00:56:10,584 --> 00:56:12,499 When Ciara and I were, like, together, 1523 00:56:12,717 --> 00:56:14,153 it was, like, dreamy. 1524 00:56:14,371 --> 00:56:16,155 She's unreal, so I can-- I, like, I-I know why. 1525 00:56:16,373 --> 00:56:18,549 I know. 1526 00:56:18,766 --> 00:56:20,377 He was sad, and depressed, and all these things 1527 00:56:20,594 --> 00:56:22,161 that he expressed towards Ben this summer. 1528 00:56:22,379 --> 00:56:23,771 Can-can I ask you a question, West? 1529 00:56:23,989 --> 00:56:26,861 Honestly, like, hearing all of this, 1530 00:56:27,079 --> 00:56:29,777 and you saying what you said to Ben about 1531 00:56:29,995 --> 00:56:31,997 it's magic with Ciara, all of these things, 1532 00:56:32,214 --> 00:56:33,868 did you really mean that? 1533 00:56:34,086 --> 00:56:35,216 Yeah, I wouldn't-- I wouldn't lie 1534 00:56:35,217 --> 00:56:36,523 about our relationship being great, 1535 00:56:36,741 --> 00:56:39,874 but I also recognized, in that time, 1536 00:56:40,092 --> 00:56:41,876 I was not gonna be what Ciara needed, 1537 00:56:42,094 --> 00:56:43,617 and we ended it. 1538 00:56:43,835 --> 00:56:45,139 We got a dinner right after summer, 1539 00:56:45,140 --> 00:56:48,230 and I told Ciara, uh, what my plans were, 1540 00:56:48,405 --> 00:56:50,407 and how-how much I learned the first time 1541 00:56:50,624 --> 00:56:53,932 from what affected Ciara, and that I wasn't going to 1542 00:56:54,149 --> 00:56:56,543 just jump down that rabbit hole, again. 1543 00:56:56,761 --> 00:56:59,416 It's hard to ignore the sexual tension, 1544 00:56:59,590 --> 00:57:02,027 but I am not trying to portray that I am a boyfriend. 1545 00:57:02,244 --> 00:57:04,159 Yeah. 1546 00:57:04,377 --> 00:57:08,076 But the last thing I want, is her fucking heart broken. 1547 00:57:08,294 --> 00:57:09,991 I know a lot of things that can be casual for me 1548 00:57:10,209 --> 00:57:13,778 are not casual for Ciara, and we had that conversation. 1549 00:57:13,995 --> 00:57:16,824 Um, and I've made plenty of mistakes along the way, 1550 00:57:17,042 --> 00:57:21,046 but I was very proactive in trying to protect our friendship 1551 00:57:21,263 --> 00:57:24,441 and not, uh, send wrong messages. 1552 00:57:24,615 --> 00:57:25,745 The wrong message. 1553 00:57:25,746 --> 00:57:26,965 What was that different approach? 1554 00:57:27,182 --> 00:57:31,230 I mean, not having sex was huge. 1555 00:57:31,448 --> 00:57:32,927 You can't act like we weren't 1556 00:57:33,145 --> 00:57:35,060 sending flirty text messages and, like-- 1557 00:57:35,277 --> 00:57:37,192 We communicated significantly less. 1558 00:57:37,410 --> 00:57:38,715 - Yeah. - And I think we had-- 1559 00:57:38,716 --> 00:57:40,587 you slept over one time since summer ended. 1560 00:57:40,805 --> 00:57:42,154 - Twice. - West, can I ask you a question? 1561 00:57:42,371 --> 00:57:43,502 - I think-- - What's stronger? 1562 00:57:43,503 --> 00:57:45,244 When you just have sex with somebody 1563 00:57:45,462 --> 00:57:46,724 or when you have an emotional connection 1564 00:57:46,941 --> 00:57:48,377 with somebody, what's stronger? 1565 00:57:48,552 --> 00:57:51,468 - Emotional. - Okay, thank you. 1566 00:57:51,685 --> 00:57:54,209 But, also, I spent the night twice. 1567 00:57:54,427 --> 00:57:56,081 So, you don't think you and Ciara 1568 00:57:56,298 --> 00:57:58,997 having sleepovers this fall and still just kissing, 1569 00:57:59,214 --> 00:58:00,999 not having sex, that wasn't a strong connection? 1570 00:58:01,216 --> 00:58:02,347 That wasn't important? 1571 00:58:02,348 --> 00:58:03,696 That wasn't something to consider? 1572 00:58:03,697 --> 00:58:06,395 Our chemistry, for sure, is-- uh, obviously, 1573 00:58:06,570 --> 00:58:07,788 we didn't talk for two years, and we were kind of, like, 1574 00:58:08,006 --> 00:58:09,660 right back in it. That is a real thing. 1575 00:58:09,877 --> 00:58:12,184 And I fell short in those moments. 1576 00:58:12,401 --> 00:58:13,967 I will acknowledge that. 1577 00:58:13,968 --> 00:58:15,927 But there are numerous times where I tried to make steps 1578 00:58:16,144 --> 00:58:19,234 to not allow us to get to a romantic place 1579 00:58:19,452 --> 00:58:22,020 or a physical place and keep it as friends 1580 00:58:22,237 --> 00:58:24,718 because I wanted to be your friend and not-- 1581 00:58:24,936 --> 00:58:27,982 and I learned the first summer-- - We didn't see that. 1582 00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:29,723 - Say it, again. - I said we didn't see that. 1583 00:58:29,941 --> 00:58:31,332 Yeah, no, and at that end of summer, 1584 00:58:31,333 --> 00:58:33,858 I know it got romantic, again, the last weekend, 1585 00:58:34,075 --> 00:58:35,990 and I take accountability for that, for sure. 1586 00:58:36,208 --> 00:58:38,253 But even in just trying to be friends, 1587 00:58:38,471 --> 00:58:40,299 this is what you do to your friends. 1588 00:58:40,517 --> 00:58:41,735 West, you're so fucking good. 1589 00:58:41,953 --> 00:58:43,431 - You're really good. - You're so-- 1590 00:58:43,432 --> 00:58:44,695 I'm-I'm, like, getting pulled into you, right now. 1591 00:58:44,912 --> 00:58:46,435 - Yeah. - And I can catch myself. 1592 00:58:46,610 --> 00:58:49,656 - Yeah. - You're so fucking good. 1593 00:58:49,874 --> 00:58:51,528 You're good at pulling girls. 1594 00:58:51,702 --> 00:58:55,444 Do whatever you need to do to climb the ladder. 1595 00:58:55,619 --> 00:58:56,881 - Yeah. - To clout chase, 1596 00:58:57,098 --> 00:58:59,231 to get to wherever you fucking need to go. 1597 00:58:59,448 --> 00:59:01,276 - And then you drop ‘em. - And then boom. 1598 00:59:01,494 --> 00:59:02,974 They don't work for you. 1599 00:59:03,191 --> 00:59:05,411 They don't serve what you need to be served, 1600 00:59:05,585 --> 00:59:08,196 and you drop them. 1601 00:59:08,414 --> 00:59:10,547 You're gonna do the same fucking thing to Amanda 1602 00:59:10,764 --> 00:59:14,768 when this is not working out, because it's not going to, 1603 00:59:14,986 --> 00:59:16,509 and you're not gonna be able to handle it, 1604 00:59:16,683 --> 00:59:19,425 West, because you're a fucking toddler. 1605 00:59:19,599 --> 00:59:21,296 Or maybe they'll be together, because I honestly think 1606 00:59:21,514 --> 00:59:23,385 that the best, like, woman for West 1607 00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:25,823 is, like, someone who is not gonna check him on anything, 1608 00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:27,302 and that's totally Amanda. 1609 00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:28,868 - Oof. - Like, she's very mute. 1610 00:59:28,869 --> 00:59:30,784 She's gonna be that weak figure that he needs, 1611 00:59:31,002 --> 00:59:33,265 and he can always be the star in-in the relationship. 1612 00:59:33,482 --> 00:59:36,311 So, I actually think, like, maybe it could work. 1613 00:59:44,755 --> 00:59:46,191 That's your wife. She's not my wife. 1614 00:59:46,408 --> 00:59:48,585 I'm just sayin'.