1 00:00:05,266 --> 00:00:06,745 So that final night of the summer, 2 00:00:06,963 --> 00:00:08,965 the two of you made out in the backyard? 3 00:00:09,139 --> 00:00:10,314 Yeah. 4 00:00:10,532 --> 00:00:11,314 - Ear stuff? - Ear stuff? 5 00:00:11,315 --> 00:00:12,228 What does that mean? 6 00:00:12,229 --> 00:00:14,884 What the fuck is ear stuff?! 7 00:00:15,058 --> 00:00:17,800 Previously, on the Summer House Reunion. 8 00:00:18,018 --> 00:00:19,758 Lindsay and I have incredible chemistry. 9 00:00:19,976 --> 00:00:21,499 I felt a really nice bond between us 10 00:00:21,717 --> 00:00:23,675 that I've been wanting. 11 00:00:23,893 --> 00:00:25,808 I care about you, and I always will. 12 00:00:26,026 --> 00:00:30,160 You are finally the person you always wanted to be. 13 00:00:30,378 --> 00:00:31,379 That's a beautiful thing to see. 14 00:00:31,596 --> 00:00:32,728 Thank you. 15 00:00:33,816 --> 00:00:35,513 West was there for me all summer. 16 00:00:35,731 --> 00:00:36,906 And where was I? 17 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:37,994 I was living on my own. 18 00:00:38,168 --> 00:00:39,517 I separated from my ex. 19 00:00:39,735 --> 00:00:41,040 And I was trying to prioritize myself. 20 00:00:41,041 --> 00:00:42,302 Yeah, and you were hanging out with mine. 21 00:00:42,303 --> 00:00:43,607 You'd go out, you guys are going to the bars, 22 00:00:43,608 --> 00:00:44,957 you're breadcrumbing everyone on Instagram. 23 00:00:45,132 --> 00:00:46,133 Oof. That was tough. 24 00:00:48,048 --> 00:00:50,876 I, 100%, lied to people here. 25 00:00:51,051 --> 00:00:52,355 The problem is now 26 00:00:52,356 --> 00:00:53,400 is that I feel like you lie about your life. 27 00:00:53,401 --> 00:00:54,793 Like, you lie about who you are. 28 00:00:55,011 --> 00:00:56,926 It is The West Show, 29 00:00:57,100 --> 00:00:59,059 and it will always be The West Show. 30 00:00:59,276 --> 00:01:01,017 You live a different fucking life off-camera 31 00:01:01,191 --> 00:01:02,540 than you do on-camera. 32 00:01:02,758 --> 00:01:03,715 You had a girlfriend. 33 00:01:06,718 --> 00:01:08,154 Meija. 34 00:01:08,155 --> 00:01:10,374 Uh, not a girlfriend, but I was seeing someone. 35 00:01:10,592 --> 00:01:11,680 Like, he referred to me as his girlfriend 36 00:01:11,897 --> 00:01:13,028 all the time. 37 00:01:13,029 --> 00:01:14,683 Our relationship isn't just that easy 38 00:01:14,900 --> 00:01:17,077 for him to, like, completely discredit. 39 00:01:17,294 --> 00:01:19,340 That's just, like, so fucking hurtful. 40 00:01:23,518 --> 00:01:24,867 Oh, yeah. 41 00:01:25,085 --> 00:01:26,825 At least it's almost over. 42 00:01:27,043 --> 00:01:29,001 Like, we're about to go confront him. 43 00:01:29,176 --> 00:01:31,352 I think it'll get a little bit easier. 44 00:01:31,569 --> 00:01:34,006 We'll be able to talk since you're not physically here. 45 00:01:34,181 --> 00:01:35,225 Thank you for having my back. 46 00:01:56,681 --> 00:01:58,553 Okay, let's clock back in, kids. 47 00:02:01,860 --> 00:02:02,731 I'm thinking about chopping my hair off 48 00:02:02,948 --> 00:02:04,035 for the summer. 49 00:02:04,036 --> 00:02:04,776 Let's talk before you do that. 50 00:02:04,994 --> 00:02:05,734 Okay. 51 00:02:05,951 --> 00:02:07,214 With Meija, right? 52 00:02:07,431 --> 00:02:08,605 Stay by your phone. 53 00:02:08,606 --> 00:02:09,520 I'll be texting you, and I'll call you 54 00:02:09,738 --> 00:02:11,435 if I, like, need anything. 55 00:02:11,653 --> 00:02:12,567 - Okay, bye. - Bye. 56 00:02:18,138 --> 00:02:19,748 No. 57 00:02:19,965 --> 00:02:20,966 Come sit with me. 58 00:02:25,667 --> 00:02:27,843 I genuinely worry about you so much. 59 00:02:28,060 --> 00:02:29,323 No, I appreciate that. 60 00:02:29,540 --> 00:02:30,975 And I know that you said that 61 00:02:30,976 --> 00:02:32,935 and you had texted that too. - And I- I mean it. 62 00:02:33,153 --> 00:02:34,501 Maybe I'm naive. 63 00:02:34,502 --> 00:02:36,025 I feel like we've had a lot of conversations, 64 00:02:36,199 --> 00:02:38,680 him and I, that, like, made me feel... 65 00:02:41,291 --> 00:02:44,207 ...secure. And that's okay. 66 00:02:44,425 --> 00:02:46,078 Maybe this will be a huge mistake 67 00:02:46,253 --> 00:02:48,124 and I'll wake up one day and realize it. 68 00:02:48,298 --> 00:02:51,649 But... 69 00:02:51,867 --> 00:02:53,825 Yeah, it's just, like, hard to sit on the stage 70 00:02:54,043 --> 00:02:55,305 and, like, try to explain myself 71 00:02:55,523 --> 00:02:56,785 when no one's gonna listen. 72 00:02:57,002 --> 00:02:59,309 Yeah. 73 00:02:59,527 --> 00:03:01,529 You, my dear, look like a movie star. 74 00:03:01,746 --> 00:03:03,444 - Thank you. - You do. 75 00:03:03,661 --> 00:03:04,445 - Thank you, guys. - You look so beautiful. 76 00:03:04,662 --> 00:03:05,836 Love you. 77 00:03:05,837 --> 00:03:07,187 - You're unbelievable. - Oh, really? 78 00:03:07,361 --> 00:03:08,753 - Yeah. - Oh, thanks, Carl. 79 00:03:08,971 --> 00:03:10,014 It's fun to watch. 80 00:03:10,015 --> 00:03:10,799 Oh, 'cause it's not at you. 81 00:03:11,016 --> 00:03:12,931 - I-I agree. - Sort of. 82 00:03:13,671 --> 00:03:15,064 Yeah. 83 00:03:15,238 --> 00:03:16,412 It's about to get interesting. 84 00:03:16,413 --> 00:03:17,849 - Oh, really? - Comfy couch this year. 85 00:03:18,067 --> 00:03:19,329 You're both 6'5", 86 00:03:19,547 --> 00:03:22,245 so I'm a little confused why you're slumping. 87 00:03:23,855 --> 00:03:25,988 It's feeling like, your legs are longer, Jesse, 88 00:03:26,206 --> 00:03:28,251 but Carl's torso is longer. 89 00:03:28,469 --> 00:03:29,905 No, 6'5" guy is built the same. 90 00:03:31,907 --> 00:03:32,690 I like how in the fight I'm like, 91 00:03:32,908 --> 00:03:34,910 "This 6'5" motherfucker." 92 00:03:35,127 --> 00:03:36,651 fuck off, you fuckin' 6'5" motherfucker. 93 00:03:36,868 --> 00:03:37,869 No, hey, hey, hey. 94 00:03:39,784 --> 00:03:41,264 - Why...? - Yeah, you said that 95 00:03:41,482 --> 00:03:42,874 like it was an insult. 96 00:03:43,092 --> 00:03:44,049 I'm like, that's a good thing. 97 00:03:44,224 --> 00:03:45,573 Is this everything else? 98 00:03:45,790 --> 00:03:46,921 Oh, good. 99 00:03:46,922 --> 00:03:47,836 This is the end of the show. Okay. 100 00:03:50,447 --> 00:03:53,450 Wait, where did the-- Oh. 101 00:03:53,668 --> 00:03:55,452 The two ladies. Okay. 102 00:03:55,670 --> 00:03:59,064 And... Lindsay. Nice. 103 00:03:59,239 --> 00:04:01,632 Three, two... 104 00:04:01,850 --> 00:04:05,114 Welcome back to the Summer House Season 10 Reunion. 105 00:04:05,288 --> 00:04:06,636 We still have a lot to discuss 106 00:04:06,637 --> 00:04:08,944 and I wanna leave it all on the table today, 107 00:04:09,161 --> 00:04:10,902 so that you can move forward 108 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:12,294 however feels right, 109 00:04:12,295 --> 00:04:14,254 whether that's working towards healing 110 00:04:14,428 --> 00:04:17,126 or choosing to step away from certain friendships. 111 00:04:17,300 --> 00:04:18,867 We're gonna dive into what's been going on. 112 00:04:19,084 --> 00:04:21,652 But, first we need to discuss how we got there. 113 00:04:21,870 --> 00:04:23,087 Fabulous. 114 00:04:23,088 --> 00:04:25,395 So, West, you were such a steady support 115 00:04:25,613 --> 00:04:26,831 for Amanda all summer. 116 00:04:27,049 --> 00:04:30,400 So, at what point did that start to feel 117 00:04:30,618 --> 00:04:32,620 like more than just a friendship to you? 118 00:04:32,837 --> 00:04:34,578 We started going out a lot 119 00:04:34,796 --> 00:04:38,843 in February and March with a lot of my friends 120 00:04:39,061 --> 00:04:40,149 and having like, a lot of fun. 121 00:04:40,323 --> 00:04:42,282 Amanda and I share mutual friends, 122 00:04:42,456 --> 00:04:46,198 and I think seeing her happy 123 00:04:46,373 --> 00:04:48,723 and like, having fun and like, 124 00:04:48,940 --> 00:04:51,247 kind of the Amanda that I didn't see prior, 125 00:04:51,421 --> 00:04:54,468 I took it kind of personal, I guess, 126 00:04:54,685 --> 00:04:55,991 because I was bringing her around my friends 127 00:04:56,208 --> 00:04:58,602 and we were out and about and like, 128 00:04:58,820 --> 00:05:01,039 that was special to me. 129 00:05:01,257 --> 00:05:04,652 Like, I know it sounds like so black and white, 130 00:05:04,869 --> 00:05:09,004 but it was a treat for me 131 00:05:09,221 --> 00:05:11,398 to see Amanda like, incredibly happy, 132 00:05:11,615 --> 00:05:16,664 and we started spending more time together. 133 00:05:16,881 --> 00:05:17,926 Amanda, what about you? 134 00:05:18,143 --> 00:05:19,580 Was there a specific moment 135 00:05:19,797 --> 00:05:22,147 when your feelings for West clicked? 136 00:05:22,322 --> 00:05:25,325 Um, not necessarily. 137 00:05:25,542 --> 00:05:28,893 We just-- There was like a night where we just... 138 00:05:29,111 --> 00:05:31,069 I don't know, he sort of like said something 139 00:05:31,287 --> 00:05:32,332 and was like, am I crazy? 140 00:05:32,549 --> 00:05:33,550 Like, is there something here? 141 00:05:33,768 --> 00:05:34,812 And I feel like, all the motions 142 00:05:35,030 --> 00:05:36,596 just kind of came flooding in. 143 00:05:36,597 --> 00:05:39,774 It wasn't like a slow burn, or like, a build up to it. 144 00:05:39,991 --> 00:05:42,864 It just kind of like came flooding in all at once. 145 00:05:43,081 --> 00:05:45,345 It wasn't something that was like top of my mind. 146 00:05:45,519 --> 00:05:48,391 Okay, so, to be clear, 147 00:05:48,609 --> 00:05:50,959 were you having an affair this summer? 148 00:05:51,176 --> 00:05:52,961 in unison: Absolutely not. 149 00:05:53,178 --> 00:05:55,485 Because we have lied to people in this room, 150 00:05:55,703 --> 00:05:58,793 which I recognize and again, apologize for. 151 00:05:59,010 --> 00:06:01,361 I get that the things we are saying today, 152 00:06:01,578 --> 00:06:03,928 people have reason to not trust us and like-- 153 00:06:04,146 --> 00:06:06,453 But not only did you lie, you made us feel crazy 154 00:06:06,670 --> 00:06:07,931 for even thinking it could be true. - Yeah. 155 00:06:07,932 --> 00:06:09,455 - Gaslighting. - And then you tricked us. 156 00:06:09,456 --> 00:06:10,717 You played games on Instagram. - And that really hurt. 157 00:06:10,718 --> 00:06:12,328 You also said "holy frick" to her in March 158 00:06:12,502 --> 00:06:14,068 on a post that-- - Yeah. 159 00:06:14,069 --> 00:06:15,636 - Shouldn't have done that. - You're like... You're... 160 00:06:15,853 --> 00:06:17,376 Yeah, I shouldn't have done that. 161 00:06:17,377 --> 00:06:18,726 No, but, like, you guys are so fuckin' calculated. 162 00:06:18,943 --> 00:06:20,380 Why would we trust what you say? 163 00:06:20,554 --> 00:06:21,902 Mia, on Watch What Happens Live, 164 00:06:21,903 --> 00:06:23,383 I asked him if you thought something happened 165 00:06:23,557 --> 00:06:25,733 between West and Amanda this summer. 166 00:06:25,950 --> 00:06:27,952 Now, what do you think? Looking back on it? 167 00:06:28,170 --> 00:06:30,215 Looking back, I would say yes. 168 00:06:30,390 --> 00:06:31,782 - Really? - Mm-hmm. 169 00:06:33,610 --> 00:06:36,178 What specifically were you seeing or hearing? 170 00:06:36,396 --> 00:06:38,310 Well, in the last few episodes that came out, 171 00:06:38,485 --> 00:06:41,139 just watching, like, for example, 172 00:06:41,357 --> 00:06:43,620 when Kyle and Carl got into the fight, 173 00:06:43,838 --> 00:06:46,144 Amanda, you and I and Lindsay 174 00:06:46,362 --> 00:06:47,494 and the girls were in the kitchen. 175 00:06:47,711 --> 00:06:49,191 And you're so cool, calm, and collect 176 00:06:49,409 --> 00:06:50,974 when you're talking to us. 177 00:06:50,975 --> 00:06:53,456 As soon as you see West when you walk towards the door, 178 00:06:53,674 --> 00:06:55,806 you go into his arms, start crying. 179 00:06:56,024 --> 00:06:57,112 West, you pull Amanda's head in, 180 00:06:57,329 --> 00:06:58,200 you're kissing her on the head. 181 00:06:58,418 --> 00:06:59,723 That's weird. 182 00:07:02,422 --> 00:07:04,989 You pulling up your fuckin' chair next to me. 183 00:07:14,521 --> 00:07:16,131 Thank you. 184 00:07:16,348 --> 00:07:17,567 - ... - I love you. 185 00:07:19,482 --> 00:07:20,527 Another time. 186 00:07:20,744 --> 00:07:21,788 I'm not done. - Gotcha. 187 00:07:21,789 --> 00:07:23,747 Another time, that same night, 188 00:07:23,965 --> 00:07:26,315 Amanda, you run outside to go talk to Kyle. 189 00:07:26,489 --> 00:07:29,100 West, you come behind Amanda 190 00:07:29,318 --> 00:07:30,928 and you're grabbing her like this, 191 00:07:31,146 --> 00:07:33,148 and your hand is awfully close to her breast. 192 00:07:33,365 --> 00:07:34,583 Kyle, stop-- - It's okay. It's okay. 193 00:07:34,584 --> 00:07:35,280 You're gonna say things you don't mean. 194 00:07:35,455 --> 00:07:36,716 - No, I-- - Kyle! 195 00:07:36,717 --> 00:07:37,630 You're gonna say things you don't mean. 196 00:07:37,631 --> 00:07:38,893 It's okay. Take a breath. 197 00:07:39,110 --> 00:07:40,546 - I thought that was strange. - Okay. 198 00:07:40,547 --> 00:07:43,071 I don't think you would ever grab me like that. 199 00:07:43,288 --> 00:07:45,465 I don't think you would ever grab Lindsay like that. 200 00:07:45,639 --> 00:07:46,466 It's weird. - Okay. 201 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,032 He has not, in fact. 202 00:07:48,250 --> 00:07:50,382 I think if you guys thought something weird 203 00:07:50,557 --> 00:07:53,560 was going on last summer, it would have been flagged. 204 00:07:53,777 --> 00:07:55,082 I don't think so. 205 00:07:55,083 --> 00:07:58,347 I think we looked at Amanda like a victim, 206 00:07:58,521 --> 00:07:59,566 and we thought you two 207 00:07:59,783 --> 00:08:01,219 would never do something like that. 208 00:08:01,437 --> 00:08:03,483 And so it was-- - It was the perfect guise. 209 00:08:03,700 --> 00:08:07,443 Did you have a crush on her at that time? 210 00:08:07,617 --> 00:08:08,923 No, but I definitely-- We got way closer 211 00:08:09,140 --> 00:08:10,968 after all the moments that I feel like 212 00:08:11,186 --> 00:08:12,840 we shared intimately. Bathroom crying night... 213 00:08:13,057 --> 00:08:14,015 Did you have a crush on him? 214 00:08:14,232 --> 00:08:15,624 No. I was dealing-- 215 00:08:15,625 --> 00:08:18,889 I was so caught up and lost in my own marriage 216 00:08:19,107 --> 00:08:21,109 and the fallout of it. I'm just-- 217 00:08:21,326 --> 00:08:23,546 It's so easy to watch this through a different lens 218 00:08:23,764 --> 00:08:25,156 and see what you guys wanna see. 219 00:08:25,374 --> 00:08:26,897 But you guys all lived in the house, 220 00:08:27,115 --> 00:08:28,159 and that's not what was happening 221 00:08:28,377 --> 00:08:29,857 at all this summer. 222 00:08:30,074 --> 00:08:31,467 Like, that's what's so frustrating. 223 00:08:31,641 --> 00:08:33,164 I'm not a fucking cheater. 224 00:08:33,382 --> 00:08:35,079 I'm not gonna step out on Kyle. 225 00:08:35,297 --> 00:08:36,820 I'm not gonna do things that are inappropriate. 226 00:08:37,038 --> 00:08:38,779 I've been cheated on. I've been hurt. 227 00:08:38,996 --> 00:08:40,520 I was... I was... 228 00:08:40,694 --> 00:08:41,782 We're not talking about, like, hooking up. 229 00:08:41,999 --> 00:08:43,347 Like, we're not saying-- 230 00:08:43,348 --> 00:08:44,654 We don't think you guys fucked over summer. 231 00:08:44,872 --> 00:08:45,873 But I think you guys definitely had, like, 232 00:08:46,090 --> 00:08:46,961 an emotional affair. - Okay. 233 00:08:47,178 --> 00:08:48,788 All right, moving on. 234 00:08:48,789 --> 00:08:50,138 There's an emotional connection that was developing. 235 00:08:50,355 --> 00:08:51,574 Okay. So they're saying-- 236 00:08:51,792 --> 00:08:53,270 I mean, probab-- 237 00:08:53,271 --> 00:08:56,100 we definitely became closer throughout the summer. 238 00:08:59,190 --> 00:09:00,452 Now we're making some headway. 239 00:09:00,627 --> 00:09:01,975 Now people are starting to be honest. 240 00:09:01,976 --> 00:09:02,976 Okay, we're getting somewhere. Jesus fuck! 241 00:09:02,977 --> 00:09:04,239 Lindsay, that's fair to say. 242 00:09:04,456 --> 00:09:06,067 But not in a romantic way. 243 00:09:06,284 --> 00:09:07,415 - But that is romantic. - I know, but it's... 244 00:09:07,416 --> 00:09:09,940 But it's like, you yelling at West, 245 00:09:10,158 --> 00:09:12,334 it seemed like you yelled at him 246 00:09:12,552 --> 00:09:13,683 on behalf of yourself 247 00:09:13,901 --> 00:09:15,206 and not Ciara. - Correct. 248 00:09:15,424 --> 00:09:17,513 Why at this small, intimate party, 249 00:09:17,687 --> 00:09:19,341 do you decide to have this girl sitting in your lap 250 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:20,951 the whole time and, like, making out with her? 251 00:09:22,866 --> 00:09:24,259 Can you at least see where Amanda's coming from? 252 00:09:24,476 --> 00:09:25,868 Totally. 253 00:09:25,869 --> 00:09:27,871 There's a level of respect that we have to have 254 00:09:28,089 --> 00:09:29,569 to live here together. 255 00:09:29,743 --> 00:09:30,961 To watch it back... - Like, you were jealous 256 00:09:31,179 --> 00:09:32,048 watching that. - ...no one felt that way 257 00:09:32,049 --> 00:09:33,355 in the moment. I was-- 258 00:09:33,573 --> 00:09:34,574 Because it was under the guise... 259 00:09:34,791 --> 00:09:36,097 ...that this is your best friend. 260 00:09:36,837 --> 00:09:39,579 And we would never think you would do that. 261 00:09:39,753 --> 00:09:41,058 I have one timeline question 262 00:09:41,276 --> 00:09:42,669 that I'm a little concerned about. 263 00:09:42,886 --> 00:09:44,758 Just because you lied once, 264 00:09:44,975 --> 00:09:46,280 I'm gonna give you one last chance, 265 00:09:46,281 --> 00:09:47,543 and then I'm gonna take you for your word. 266 00:09:48,588 --> 00:09:53,462 So, Brianna told Dave Portnoy at Super Bowl... 267 00:09:55,159 --> 00:09:56,639 ...that you guys were a thing. 268 00:09:56,857 --> 00:09:58,293 Now, there's only two weeks between 269 00:09:58,510 --> 00:10:00,687 when we split and Super Bowl. - Yeah. 270 00:10:00,904 --> 00:10:03,646 So somehow, some way, one of your close friends 271 00:10:03,864 --> 00:10:06,997 thought of you guys as an item within that two week period. 272 00:10:07,215 --> 00:10:09,826 - We were not hanging out. - Now, I've been DMed 273 00:10:10,044 --> 00:10:11,698 from someone who knows someone from that circle, 274 00:10:11,915 --> 00:10:13,482 saying, "Don't let them fool you. 275 00:10:13,656 --> 00:10:15,310 This goes back to 2025." 276 00:10:15,527 --> 00:10:16,616 - Insane. - I can't reveal my identity. 277 00:10:16,833 --> 00:10:18,574 What? - That's not true. 278 00:10:18,748 --> 00:10:21,838 All right, so I'm just, again, once and for all, 279 00:10:22,056 --> 00:10:25,407 was there any physical activity? 280 00:10:25,625 --> 00:10:27,017 I don't care if it's an emotional affair, 281 00:10:27,235 --> 00:10:28,671 because at this point, that's subjective, 282 00:10:28,889 --> 00:10:32,327 but did you guys ever hook up in 2025? 283 00:10:32,544 --> 00:10:33,937 - No. fuck no. - On my fucking life? 284 00:10:34,155 --> 00:10:36,070 On the dogs life? No. 285 00:10:36,287 --> 00:10:37,941 An emotional affair is so much worse than-- 286 00:10:38,159 --> 00:10:39,639 I agree, but we're never gonna be able to prove that. 287 00:10:39,856 --> 00:10:40,988 I mean just... I don't know. 288 00:10:41,205 --> 00:10:42,816 Can I ask a question really quick? 289 00:10:43,033 --> 00:10:44,555 Yeah. 290 00:10:44,556 --> 00:10:48,430 Amanda and West, did you honestly just come forward 291 00:10:48,648 --> 00:10:51,651 because you guys... there was so much speculation, 292 00:10:51,825 --> 00:10:53,609 or were you guys gonna continue to lie to us? 293 00:10:55,306 --> 00:10:57,961 And please be truthful. - To be so honest, 294 00:10:58,179 --> 00:11:00,137 in that moment, came forward because the speculation 295 00:11:00,355 --> 00:11:01,965 because there were a lot of things 296 00:11:02,183 --> 00:11:04,664 that I was still trying to understand and figure out, 297 00:11:04,838 --> 00:11:06,970 including the Meija situation. 298 00:11:07,188 --> 00:11:08,537 But one more follow-up question. 299 00:11:08,711 --> 00:11:10,495 So, it had nothing to do with, like, 300 00:11:10,670 --> 00:11:12,019 hurting your friendship with Ciara? 301 00:11:12,236 --> 00:11:14,238 It had to do with figuring out 302 00:11:14,456 --> 00:11:16,371 if West was actually exclusive with Meija. 303 00:11:16,588 --> 00:11:18,765 Again, I know that I fucked it up. 304 00:11:18,982 --> 00:11:20,505 I know that I didn't handle it right. 305 00:11:20,680 --> 00:11:23,030 In that moment, like, that's, 306 00:11:23,247 --> 00:11:25,206 that's all I could understand how to do. 307 00:11:25,423 --> 00:11:30,298 And-And I'm again, sorry for lying to you, Ciara. 308 00:11:30,515 --> 00:11:32,561 Were there other people, West? 309 00:11:32,735 --> 00:11:34,084 I'm assuming that there were other girls 310 00:11:34,302 --> 00:11:36,826 that you were hanging out with during that time? 311 00:11:37,044 --> 00:11:38,480 - Yep. - Did Meija know 312 00:11:38,698 --> 00:11:41,222 that you were dating other women 313 00:11:41,439 --> 00:11:42,484 during that time, or did she think 314 00:11:42,702 --> 00:11:44,093 you were exclusive, or...? 315 00:11:44,094 --> 00:11:45,748 Yeah, I mean, I obviously wasn't the clearest, 316 00:11:45,966 --> 00:11:47,488 but it was-- 317 00:11:47,489 --> 00:11:48,795 I told her that it was not an exclusive relationship 318 00:11:49,012 --> 00:11:54,148 in like... 319 00:11:54,365 --> 00:11:55,932 November, or December, aft-- - You're lying 320 00:11:56,150 --> 00:11:58,456 because you sent her flowers on Valentine's Day. 321 00:11:58,674 --> 00:12:02,069 So I'm just... When does the lying stop? 322 00:12:02,286 --> 00:12:05,376 I've been not clear with a zillion women 323 00:12:05,594 --> 00:12:06,987 that I've dated prior to this. 324 00:12:07,204 --> 00:12:08,466 - Hmm. - So that's your M.O.? 325 00:12:08,684 --> 00:12:10,164 - So that's your style. - That's you. 326 00:12:10,381 --> 00:12:11,382 You understand how that's a little concerning? 327 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:12,382 Because I still care for her. 328 00:12:12,383 --> 00:12:13,470 - Of course. - Okay. 329 00:12:13,471 --> 00:12:14,864 Can I ask you one last question? 330 00:12:15,082 --> 00:12:16,125 Were you not-- 331 00:12:16,126 --> 00:12:17,562 Were you exclusive with Meija? 332 00:12:20,043 --> 00:12:21,741 I mean, I mean, no. 333 00:12:21,915 --> 00:12:23,177 She thought we were. - Did she-- 334 00:12:23,394 --> 00:12:25,005 - So you lied to her. - She thought you-- 335 00:12:25,222 --> 00:12:26,832 She thought you were. - You just lied earlier. 336 00:12:26,833 --> 00:12:28,094 Because you said you were saying these things to her, 337 00:12:28,095 --> 00:12:29,312 and you asked-- - So, you're a . 338 00:12:29,313 --> 00:12:31,359 And you said you wanted to be with her. 339 00:12:31,576 --> 00:12:34,188 Earlier today, you said you were not exclusive. 340 00:12:34,405 --> 00:12:36,364 She says that you guys were exclusive, and in fact, 341 00:12:36,581 --> 00:12:38,148 she spent the night with you. - We weren't. 342 00:12:38,366 --> 00:12:39,410 - Now you're like, okay... - He can't even keep up 343 00:12:39,628 --> 00:12:40,628 with his lies! - I lied again. 344 00:12:40,629 --> 00:12:41,543 Okay, so what is the truth? 345 00:12:41,761 --> 00:12:43,022 West. We know. 346 00:12:43,023 --> 00:12:44,284 How do you know the details about this? 347 00:12:44,285 --> 00:12:46,113 We know. The curiosity got the best of me. 348 00:12:46,330 --> 00:12:47,287 I reached out to her. - Um, I actually have the timeline. 349 00:12:47,288 --> 00:12:49,029 I reached out to Meija, too. 350 00:12:49,246 --> 00:12:50,813 I've been chatting with Meija all the time. 351 00:12:51,031 --> 00:12:53,424 Hold up. You- You've talked to this woman? 352 00:12:53,642 --> 00:12:54,338 - Yeah. - Yes. 353 00:12:54,556 --> 00:12:55,557 - Yes? - Yeah. 354 00:12:55,775 --> 00:12:57,210 Got it. 355 00:12:57,211 --> 00:12:59,126 And so you were dating her and you were secretive. 356 00:12:59,343 --> 00:13:01,084 - Secretively, yes. - And she thought 357 00:13:01,302 --> 00:13:02,477 that you were exclusive, 358 00:13:02,694 --> 00:13:04,261 but you were seeing a lot of women. 359 00:13:04,479 --> 00:13:06,307 For 14 months. 360 00:13:06,524 --> 00:13:08,700 - Not a lot, but yeah-- - You were seeing other women. 361 00:13:08,875 --> 00:13:10,093 Correct. 362 00:13:10,311 --> 00:13:11,834 You were saying I love you to this woman. 363 00:13:14,619 --> 00:13:16,143 You can't even look at me because you know 364 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,188 you're fuckin' lying right now. 365 00:13:18,406 --> 00:13:20,538 Does it give you cause for pause 366 00:13:20,756 --> 00:13:21,931 that he was seeing this woman, saying 367 00:13:22,149 --> 00:13:23,759 I love you to her, and... 368 00:13:23,933 --> 00:13:25,281 Sending her flowers on Valentine's Day. 369 00:13:25,282 --> 00:13:26,239 ...she thought that they were monogamous. 370 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:27,327 You flew her out to Bozeman 371 00:13:27,328 --> 00:13:29,634 for the Montana game with your dad. 372 00:13:29,809 --> 00:13:31,506 - That was January... 3rd. - Yeah. That was January. 373 00:13:31,723 --> 00:13:32,681 Either way, you're flying this girl out. 374 00:13:32,855 --> 00:13:34,248 Does that-- Okay, hold on. 375 00:13:34,465 --> 00:13:35,684 Does that give you-- - Way before any of this? 376 00:13:35,858 --> 00:13:37,207 Does that worry you? - "Way before." 377 00:13:37,425 --> 00:13:38,512 Okay, hold on. Hold on. 378 00:13:38,513 --> 00:13:39,993 I had some of this information, 379 00:13:40,210 --> 00:13:41,298 not all of it. 380 00:13:43,648 --> 00:13:44,954 - Interesting. - Does it worry you 381 00:13:45,172 --> 00:13:47,827 that he sent her flowers on Valentine's Day? 382 00:13:48,044 --> 00:13:51,047 There was nothing really going on between us 383 00:13:51,265 --> 00:13:52,440 on Valentine's Day. - Okay, what about-- 384 00:13:52,657 --> 00:13:53,833 - You just said! - What about January? 385 00:13:55,530 --> 00:13:56,792 I-I feel like the Super Bowl thing 386 00:13:56,966 --> 00:13:58,227 is, like, incriminating. 387 00:13:58,228 --> 00:13:59,577 Dave Portnoy has no reason to get involved, 388 00:13:59,795 --> 00:14:00,840 so I'm like... - This is crazy. 389 00:14:03,930 --> 00:14:05,279 February 3rd. 390 00:14:05,496 --> 00:14:10,588 Has anyone else met your girlfriend, Meija? 391 00:14:10,806 --> 00:14:13,113 - Yeah. Ben and I have. - You have? 392 00:14:13,330 --> 00:14:14,722 When did you meet her? - I'd also like to say, 393 00:14:14,723 --> 00:14:16,203 "girlfriend" is not true. - Well, she thought-- 394 00:14:16,420 --> 00:14:18,073 Yeah, because you have loopholes. 395 00:14:18,074 --> 00:14:20,033 Because you have loopholes. - She thought that you were-- 396 00:14:20,250 --> 00:14:21,599 That's how she calls herself. 397 00:14:21,817 --> 00:14:24,211 Did she think she was your girlfriend? 398 00:14:27,301 --> 00:14:30,260 She thought we were in an exclusive relationship, yes. 399 00:14:30,478 --> 00:14:31,652 - That's a girlfriend. - Then that's your girlfriend. 400 00:14:31,653 --> 00:14:32,219 Yeah. - That's what a girlfriend is. 401 00:14:32,436 --> 00:14:33,524 Yeah. 402 00:14:44,448 --> 00:14:47,103 Did she think she was your girlfriend? 403 00:14:50,193 --> 00:14:52,892 She thought we were in an exclusive relationship, yes. 404 00:14:53,109 --> 00:14:54,241 - That's a girlfriend. - Then that's your girlfriend. 405 00:14:54,458 --> 00:14:55,024 Yeah. - That's what a girlfriend is. 406 00:14:55,242 --> 00:14:57,287 Yeah. 407 00:15:04,381 --> 00:15:06,253 Jesse, when did you meet her? 408 00:15:06,470 --> 00:15:08,690 October, we went out to Montana. 409 00:15:08,908 --> 00:15:11,258 I've always thought that Meija understood 410 00:15:11,475 --> 00:15:13,825 that they were not exclusive. 411 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,654 What it feels like now, is that you probably told her 412 00:15:16,872 --> 00:15:19,440 that this is all just for a show, and... 413 00:15:19,657 --> 00:15:20,920 That's quite literally what he did. 414 00:15:21,094 --> 00:15:23,096 What do you want to say to West? 415 00:15:23,313 --> 00:15:25,533 I mean, I am not the person in the situation 416 00:15:25,750 --> 00:15:28,579 who needs sympathy, but it-- you know, 417 00:15:28,797 --> 00:15:31,800 and I feel for Ciara and Kyle. 418 00:15:31,974 --> 00:15:34,934 But it hurts, deeply, and I just feel lied to. 419 00:15:35,108 --> 00:15:37,023 I'm really upset that the sanctity 420 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,329 of this friend group feels broken, 421 00:15:39,547 --> 00:15:41,418 and I just... 422 00:15:41,636 --> 00:15:43,159 Today has really proved that I just would never 423 00:15:43,377 --> 00:15:45,640 have expected this out of you. 424 00:15:45,857 --> 00:15:48,077 And I'm sad about it. 425 00:15:48,295 --> 00:15:51,124 I apologize, Jesse. 426 00:15:51,341 --> 00:15:52,995 It's-it's-- it's-- 427 00:15:53,213 --> 00:15:55,737 It's heartbreaking that we're-- 428 00:15:55,955 --> 00:15:58,305 It took all of us to go to West Village bars. 429 00:16:00,916 --> 00:16:03,179 West, you said at the apres-ski party 430 00:16:03,397 --> 00:16:05,877 that you weren't looking to be anyone's boyfriend. 431 00:16:06,052 --> 00:16:08,793 It's hard to ignore the sexual tension, 432 00:16:08,968 --> 00:16:12,928 but that being said, I am not trying to portray 433 00:16:13,102 --> 00:16:14,669 that I am a boyfriend. - Yeah. Yeah. 434 00:16:14,886 --> 00:16:16,365 That's not what I'm doing. 435 00:16:16,366 --> 00:16:18,194 Since you've expressed your feelings for each other, 436 00:16:18,412 --> 00:16:20,675 have the two of you been monogamous? 437 00:16:23,243 --> 00:16:24,330 - Yes. - West, have you 438 00:16:24,331 --> 00:16:26,550 been monogamous to Amanda since-- 439 00:16:26,768 --> 00:16:27,942 in the last two months? - Uh, actually, 440 00:16:27,943 --> 00:16:29,989 not since we expressed feelings, no. 441 00:16:30,206 --> 00:16:31,815 - What? - Um... 442 00:16:31,816 --> 00:16:33,253 Yeah, 'cause the Internet would have a frenzy with you 443 00:16:33,470 --> 00:16:34,688 at this point. - Yeah. 444 00:16:34,689 --> 00:16:36,212 So, yeah, you wouldn't. Why would you? 445 00:16:36,430 --> 00:16:37,779 But since the statement, yes. 446 00:16:37,997 --> 00:16:40,086 Since your statement, you've been monogamous. 447 00:16:40,303 --> 00:16:41,870 Yes, sir. 448 00:16:43,002 --> 00:16:44,524 West, Vera from Hollywood said, 449 00:16:44,525 --> 00:16:45,961 "There's a lot of pressure on you to make things work 450 00:16:46,135 --> 00:16:47,483 "with Amanda. 451 00:16:47,484 --> 00:16:49,269 "People are joking, you need to get married 452 00:16:49,486 --> 00:16:52,185 "or get Amanda pregnant ASAP to make it all work, then." 453 00:16:56,145 --> 00:16:57,407 How does that-- I mean, do you feel pressure 454 00:16:57,625 --> 00:17:00,062 to make this thing work? 455 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,195 Yeah, I don't think that should be why it works. 456 00:17:02,412 --> 00:17:03,760 - Right. - But, obviously, 457 00:17:03,761 --> 00:17:05,502 in a moment like this, that's what you feel. 458 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:07,635 It seems dangerous for me with someone with 459 00:17:07,852 --> 00:17:10,681 very clear commitment issues. - That-- 460 00:17:10,899 --> 00:17:12,640 I would agree. 461 00:17:14,294 --> 00:17:16,383 Like, I just get-- I just still cannot believe 462 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,080 we're in this, like, position. 463 00:17:18,298 --> 00:17:19,777 Like, we were really close. 464 00:17:19,995 --> 00:17:22,084 Like, I considered you one of the best things 465 00:17:22,302 --> 00:17:23,693 that ever happened to this show 466 00:17:23,694 --> 00:17:26,045 because I considered you one of my best friends. 467 00:17:26,219 --> 00:17:27,872 I think that, um-- 468 00:17:28,047 --> 00:17:30,136 I think that the most eye-opening part of all of this 469 00:17:30,353 --> 00:17:34,183 has just been unfortunately kind of learning about 470 00:17:34,401 --> 00:17:37,230 what's kind of behind closed doors in your life, 471 00:17:37,447 --> 00:17:39,928 and, like, I do still have love for Amanda 472 00:17:40,102 --> 00:17:41,060 and I do still care for her, 473 00:17:41,234 --> 00:17:42,844 and I-I am very concerned. 474 00:17:43,062 --> 00:17:46,804 And at the end of the day, like, yeah, when we broke up, 475 00:17:47,022 --> 00:17:49,329 it was not a good marriage. 476 00:17:49,546 --> 00:17:51,200 You knew that. You had a front row seat. 477 00:17:51,418 --> 00:17:54,073 You knew that she's in the most vulnerable spot 478 00:17:54,247 --> 00:17:55,551 any girl could possibly be. 479 00:17:55,552 --> 00:17:58,947 She just got out of a ten year relationship, 480 00:17:59,121 --> 00:18:00,688 and to quote you on Andy's show, 481 00:18:00,905 --> 00:18:03,299 it's like, "Yeah, I'm gonna show her the streets." 482 00:18:04,909 --> 00:18:06,955 And deciding to, like, make that move, 483 00:18:07,129 --> 00:18:08,826 and pursue these feelings, 484 00:18:09,044 --> 00:18:12,830 you've essentially completely isolated her. 485 00:18:13,048 --> 00:18:16,486 Like, she's, like, kind of alone on an island. 486 00:18:16,704 --> 00:18:19,489 And I-I honestly just have to ask, like, 487 00:18:19,707 --> 00:18:21,796 what is your plan for Amanda, 488 00:18:22,013 --> 00:18:24,625 and is all this really gonna be worth it? 489 00:18:24,842 --> 00:18:27,193 But I'd like to think that you care about her, 490 00:18:27,410 --> 00:18:29,063 and I'd like to think that you feel like 491 00:18:29,064 --> 00:18:32,285 you owe her something, but, like, where do you go from here? 492 00:18:32,502 --> 00:18:35,375 Yeah, um, part of our conversations 493 00:18:35,592 --> 00:18:39,379 were obviously weighing in how much this could 494 00:18:39,596 --> 00:18:41,207 fuck up friendships, 495 00:18:41,424 --> 00:18:46,821 and that's why I wish more than anything 496 00:18:47,038 --> 00:18:49,171 we could have spoken to each other 497 00:18:49,389 --> 00:18:51,695 before the shit fucking got carried away. 498 00:18:51,913 --> 00:18:53,132 Um, but this was-- - But that was when 499 00:18:53,306 --> 00:18:54,872 you were in my business. 500 00:18:55,090 --> 00:18:55,698 That's when you were inserting yourself 501 00:18:55,699 --> 00:18:56,787 into my marriage. 502 00:18:57,005 --> 00:19:00,269 I was texting you in early February, 503 00:19:00,487 --> 00:19:02,532 not knowing you're in Miami on a dinner date with her, 504 00:19:02,750 --> 00:19:06,841 about our sex life or the lack thereof. 505 00:19:07,058 --> 00:19:08,886 Do you understand how big of a fool I feel? 506 00:19:09,104 --> 00:19:10,410 - Totally. - You were literally with her. 507 00:19:10,627 --> 00:19:11,976 Totally. 508 00:19:12,151 --> 00:19:15,676 Um, and again, that was not anything romantic 509 00:19:15,893 --> 00:19:17,765 at the time, but-- 510 00:19:17,982 --> 00:19:19,897 But why wasn't I invited, then? 511 00:19:20,115 --> 00:19:21,377 Like... - I don't know. 512 00:19:21,595 --> 00:19:22,812 You and I had dinner plans the next night. 513 00:19:22,813 --> 00:19:24,902 I should have invited you. I apologize. 514 00:19:25,120 --> 00:19:26,513 - It just-- it looks bad. - No, I understand. 515 00:19:26,730 --> 00:19:28,732 Everything looks shitty. 516 00:19:28,950 --> 00:19:33,911 Um, the concern about me being, like, the worst person 517 00:19:34,129 --> 00:19:36,392 to risk all of this makes total sense. 518 00:19:36,610 --> 00:19:39,265 And I hear you out, and I think that's 519 00:19:39,482 --> 00:19:40,788 not just your concern but everyone here's concern, 520 00:19:41,005 --> 00:19:42,833 and-- 521 00:19:43,051 --> 00:19:44,313 Like, I actually care about her family. 522 00:19:44,531 --> 00:19:46,009 I don't even know what her family's gonna think 523 00:19:46,010 --> 00:19:47,751 when they see this, 'cause, yeah, we just kind of 524 00:19:47,969 --> 00:19:49,579 exposed you for having a full-blown girlfriend, 525 00:19:49,797 --> 00:19:51,363 and I'm like, this is horrible. - Okay, so... 526 00:19:51,364 --> 00:19:52,408 is there anything you can make us feel better about it? 527 00:19:52,626 --> 00:19:54,193 Like, you not being the worst person 528 00:19:54,410 --> 00:19:55,932 to risk it all for? - You're-- yeah, 529 00:19:55,933 --> 00:19:57,108 you're still not even being, like, "she's worth it." 530 00:20:02,679 --> 00:20:04,333 We just kind of exposed you 531 00:20:04,551 --> 00:20:06,291 for having a full-blown girlfriend, 532 00:20:06,292 --> 00:20:07,422 and I'm like, this is horrible. - Okay, so, is there anything 533 00:20:07,423 --> 00:20:08,510 you can make us feel better about it? 534 00:20:08,511 --> 00:20:09,556 Like, you not being the worst person 535 00:20:09,773 --> 00:20:11,296 to risk it all for? - You're-- yeah, 536 00:20:11,297 --> 00:20:12,602 you're still not even being, like, "she's worth it." 537 00:20:12,820 --> 00:20:14,343 Um, a lot of our conversations were about 538 00:20:14,561 --> 00:20:18,086 this needs to be something that's serious and has legs, 539 00:20:18,260 --> 00:20:19,478 and we both would be willing to-- 540 00:20:19,479 --> 00:20:21,916 But how much is that a PR damage move? 541 00:20:22,133 --> 00:20:24,397 No, I'm talking about before all of this happened. 542 00:20:24,614 --> 00:20:26,094 All right. Sorry. 543 00:20:26,268 --> 00:20:27,313 I'm gonna try and not interrupt. 544 00:20:27,530 --> 00:20:28,575 No, it's okay. And I hear-- 545 00:20:28,792 --> 00:20:32,187 I 100% hear you. 546 00:20:32,361 --> 00:20:35,277 This got so out of my control, 547 00:20:35,495 --> 00:20:36,799 and I wish it didn't, and again, 548 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:41,283 I will forever regret not speaking to you 549 00:20:41,501 --> 00:20:43,329 before this happened. 550 00:20:43,546 --> 00:20:45,722 I mean, it was in your control the whole time. 551 00:20:45,940 --> 00:20:48,377 You had to have known what was gonna happen. 552 00:20:48,595 --> 00:20:50,074 If you're hooking up or doing whatever you're doing 553 00:20:50,249 --> 00:20:51,815 and posting about it-- - Yeah, and also-- 554 00:20:52,033 --> 00:20:53,207 - Yeah. - Yeah, it's like-- 555 00:20:53,208 --> 00:20:54,601 I feel like you guys bragging about it 556 00:20:54,818 --> 00:20:57,212 for months on end is really the point 557 00:20:57,386 --> 00:20:59,867 where it's like the most disrespectful 558 00:21:00,084 --> 00:21:01,563 to everyone. - I-- That, a hun-- 559 00:21:01,564 --> 00:21:02,826 Do you guys think you weren't bragging about it 560 00:21:03,044 --> 00:21:04,566 when you were posting on Instagram? 561 00:21:04,567 --> 00:21:05,350 You literally posted a picture where you were like, 562 00:21:05,351 --> 00:21:06,656 "This is how much I care." 563 00:21:06,874 --> 00:21:08,267 It had nothing to do with anything. 564 00:21:08,441 --> 00:21:09,615 What did it have-- I even texted you about it. 565 00:21:09,616 --> 00:21:11,574 It's so easy to read into everything. 566 00:21:11,792 --> 00:21:13,314 - Amanda. - And that's not what I was-- 567 00:21:13,315 --> 00:21:15,404 Amanda, girls post so consciously, subconsciously, 568 00:21:15,622 --> 00:21:17,145 even down to the song. 569 00:21:18,233 --> 00:21:19,365 I post trending songs. 570 00:21:19,582 --> 00:21:20,975 I'm not spending five minutes-- 571 00:21:21,192 --> 00:21:22,759 I literally open up Instagram and it says, 572 00:21:22,977 --> 00:21:24,805 "suggested for you," and I pick a fucking song. 573 00:21:25,022 --> 00:21:27,329 She did a 20 carousel thing of her and West, 574 00:21:27,547 --> 00:21:29,070 and then the last one was like, "This is how much I care." 575 00:21:29,288 --> 00:21:30,463 - Yeah, yeah, convenient. - No, on my fuck-- 576 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,901 Then that was a very dumb mistake 577 00:21:34,118 --> 00:21:36,686 on my part, but literally they're not related. 578 00:21:36,904 --> 00:21:38,471 And when I was posting-- 579 00:21:38,688 --> 00:21:40,690 you guys don't have to believe me. 580 00:21:40,908 --> 00:21:42,692 What about the invisible text one, 581 00:21:42,910 --> 00:21:44,258 that at the end said, "Same"? 582 00:21:44,259 --> 00:21:46,087 I-I have friends that also do invisible text. 583 00:21:46,305 --> 00:21:47,871 For the in-- oh, okay. 584 00:21:48,089 --> 00:21:49,263 But West is notorious. - Nastasia from Sleeping Hollow-- 585 00:21:49,264 --> 00:21:50,657 West is the only one who does that. 586 00:21:50,874 --> 00:21:52,222 Nastasia from Sleeping Hollow, New York said-- 587 00:21:52,223 --> 00:21:54,182 Not only on there. It's on everyone's phone. 588 00:21:54,356 --> 00:21:56,750 ...Amanda in light of everything that's happened, 589 00:21:56,967 --> 00:21:58,229 do you think you and Ciara ever 590 00:21:58,404 --> 00:21:59,753 truly became real friends 591 00:21:59,970 --> 00:22:01,450 or was it more of a show friendship? 592 00:22:04,540 --> 00:22:07,151 I mean, there's definitely real friendship there. 593 00:22:07,326 --> 00:22:09,676 I wouldn't chalk it up to just a show friendship. 594 00:22:11,895 --> 00:22:15,551 That would be insensitive and insane. 595 00:22:15,769 --> 00:22:17,510 Um, when you watch back the scenes 596 00:22:17,727 --> 00:22:21,427 of Ciara being a supportive friend to you, 597 00:22:21,644 --> 00:22:23,080 how did that feel watching it back? 598 00:22:23,298 --> 00:22:24,691 I mean... 599 00:22:26,519 --> 00:22:27,781 I haven't been watching the show, 600 00:22:27,998 --> 00:22:29,260 but I know that she has been-- 601 00:22:29,435 --> 00:22:32,916 I watched past seasons. 602 00:22:33,134 --> 00:22:34,309 I have not watched this. 603 00:22:34,483 --> 00:22:35,397 It was really tough to watch. 604 00:22:35,615 --> 00:22:36,745 Do you plan on watching it? 605 00:22:36,746 --> 00:22:37,529 Because it kinda feels like a copout 606 00:22:37,530 --> 00:22:38,617 not to watch it. - Right. 607 00:22:38,618 --> 00:22:40,053 Because the second to last episode, 608 00:22:40,054 --> 00:22:41,925 was the hardest thing I've ever had to go through. 609 00:22:42,143 --> 00:22:45,407 I will watch after this reunion. 610 00:22:45,625 --> 00:22:47,366 Or after-- at some point, but, like-- 611 00:22:47,540 --> 00:22:48,540 But I feel like it's, like, too late. 612 00:22:48,541 --> 00:22:50,106 Like-- - Yeah, I mean, it's-- 613 00:22:50,107 --> 00:22:51,456 - No, I'm putting-- - It's like you've got the time. 614 00:22:51,457 --> 00:22:52,761 I was up 'til 3:00 in the morning watching it, 615 00:22:52,762 --> 00:22:54,329 'cause I-I look-- - Okay, and I understand that, 616 00:22:54,503 --> 00:22:56,505 and I'm not playing victim again. 617 00:22:56,723 --> 00:22:57,810 - Nobody's saying that. - I'm just-- 618 00:22:57,811 --> 00:22:59,202 I think it's just a reflection 619 00:22:59,203 --> 00:23:00,161 of how much you don't care. - Before I explain, 620 00:23:00,379 --> 00:23:01,945 I do care. 621 00:23:02,163 --> 00:23:04,208 The Internet has been dragging me. 622 00:23:04,383 --> 00:23:07,734 When I watch the episodes, I can already pinpoint 623 00:23:07,951 --> 00:23:10,650 everything that everyone's going to say about me online. 624 00:23:10,867 --> 00:23:12,086 And that has been very difficult 625 00:23:12,303 --> 00:23:13,783 for me to deal with, so I have to have-- 626 00:23:14,001 --> 00:23:15,742 I stopped watching the episodes 627 00:23:15,959 --> 00:23:18,788 because I cannot handle the idea of thinking about 628 00:23:19,006 --> 00:23:20,267 all the nasty shit 629 00:23:20,268 --> 00:23:21,443 people are gonna say about me afterwards. 630 00:23:21,661 --> 00:23:23,227 I had to stop watching them. 631 00:23:25,665 --> 00:23:27,013 - Amanda. - Yeah. 632 00:23:27,014 --> 00:23:30,713 I think that the thing that is killing people 633 00:23:30,931 --> 00:23:32,846 so much about this, 634 00:23:33,063 --> 00:23:35,849 and the reason people are so upset about it, 635 00:23:36,066 --> 00:23:41,071 is that it feels like just such a friend betrayal. 636 00:23:41,289 --> 00:23:45,119 - Yes. - And these scenes of Ciara 637 00:23:45,336 --> 00:23:46,990 trying to give you the strength to get out 638 00:23:47,208 --> 00:23:50,211 of a bad relationship... 639 00:23:50,429 --> 00:23:53,562 You're used to kind of, like, being beaten down. 640 00:23:53,780 --> 00:23:55,434 Like, you don't realize your magic. 641 00:23:55,608 --> 00:23:57,958 I'm really grateful to have you guys as friends. 642 00:23:58,175 --> 00:23:59,481 Oh, baby, you're stuck with us. 643 00:23:59,699 --> 00:24:02,310 If you want to fucking go, tell me when, 644 00:24:02,484 --> 00:24:04,399 and I'll schedule every fucking thing for you. 645 00:24:04,573 --> 00:24:06,227 You are in charge of your life. 646 00:24:06,445 --> 00:24:08,925 You have to stop letting life happen to you. 647 00:24:16,237 --> 00:24:17,412 Thank you. 648 00:24:21,808 --> 00:24:25,115 I have very good friends to remind me that every day. 649 00:24:31,339 --> 00:24:33,863 I did a really shitty thing. 650 00:24:34,081 --> 00:24:35,255 You're still doing a really shitty thing. 651 00:24:35,256 --> 00:24:38,346 - And-and-- - Because I literally-- 652 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:39,565 What are you-- hold on. Hold on. 653 00:24:39,782 --> 00:24:40,783 What do you have to say about it? 654 00:24:41,001 --> 00:24:42,393 I mean... 655 00:24:42,568 --> 00:24:44,874 I don't know that I've really-- 656 00:24:45,092 --> 00:24:47,137 What is going-- what are you feeling about it? 657 00:24:47,355 --> 00:24:50,489 What are you thinking? And maybe speak to her. 658 00:24:50,706 --> 00:24:54,144 - In regards to the situa-- - Betraying her, yes. 659 00:24:54,362 --> 00:24:59,759 No, I-- this has been an-an-- 660 00:24:59,976 --> 00:25:04,415 a very confusing and crazy time. 661 00:25:04,590 --> 00:25:06,548 There's been a lot of feelings that I've sorted through. 662 00:25:06,766 --> 00:25:08,898 I-- 663 00:25:09,116 --> 00:25:10,552 Again, I developed feelings for someone 664 00:25:10,770 --> 00:25:12,902 that I wasn't supposed to 665 00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:15,644 in a way that I wasn't expecting to, 666 00:25:15,862 --> 00:25:18,299 and it has-- 667 00:25:18,517 --> 00:25:21,563 Again, there were times I lost sleep, I didn't eat, 668 00:25:21,781 --> 00:25:25,436 thinking about what this was going to do 669 00:25:25,611 --> 00:25:26,915 to our friendship, 670 00:25:26,916 --> 00:25:30,311 even the fact that these feelings existed. 671 00:25:30,529 --> 00:25:32,922 I fucked up, and I'm deeply sorry 672 00:25:33,140 --> 00:25:36,186 for betraying your trust. 673 00:25:36,404 --> 00:25:39,276 And it kills me to know that I have caused you this pain. 674 00:25:39,494 --> 00:25:40,799 No, it doesn't, Amanda. You didn't even-- 675 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,324 Like, you fucking texted me 24 hours before 676 00:25:43,542 --> 00:25:44,847 your fucking statement's gonna come out, 677 00:25:45,065 --> 00:25:46,326 finally admitting the truth of it. 678 00:25:46,327 --> 00:25:47,546 - I couldn't-- I wouldn't-- - Meanwhile, 679 00:25:47,763 --> 00:25:50,766 I'm calling Kyle like, what the fuck is this, 680 00:25:50,984 --> 00:25:52,289 when I have nothing but be there for you. 681 00:25:52,507 --> 00:25:53,681 I-- 682 00:25:53,682 --> 00:25:55,074 And Lindsay has to come and pick me up 683 00:25:55,075 --> 00:25:56,816 off the fucking bathroom floor so I can go and do 684 00:25:57,033 --> 00:25:59,296 my fucking job, okay? - And I'm not-- 685 00:25:59,514 --> 00:26:02,038 Because I couldn't fathom that I would be sitting here, 686 00:26:02,256 --> 00:26:06,652 right here, today, pissed that you're fucking my ex. 687 00:26:06,869 --> 00:26:09,568 And-and he propositioned you, and you said, "Yeah. 688 00:26:09,785 --> 00:26:12,745 "Let's do it." Like... 689 00:26:12,962 --> 00:26:15,269 At the slightest, if you were my friend ever, you would be 690 00:26:15,486 --> 00:26:17,227 like, "Hmm, that would be a big fuck you to Ciara. 691 00:26:17,445 --> 00:26:18,794 "Why would I ever do that to her?" 692 00:26:19,012 --> 00:26:20,447 - I wasn't-- - If anything, 693 00:26:20,448 --> 00:26:21,710 you would be like, "He wants revenge against her, 694 00:26:21,928 --> 00:26:23,233 "'cause he resents her so fucking much," 695 00:26:23,451 --> 00:26:24,887 but that never even crossed your mind, 696 00:26:25,105 --> 00:26:26,585 because he wants to embarrass me. 697 00:26:26,802 --> 00:26:28,456 He wants get his last little word. 698 00:26:28,630 --> 00:26:30,371 This is his last little word, and I hope it works, 699 00:26:30,589 --> 00:26:32,025 because he's with you to spite me. 700 00:26:32,242 --> 00:26:34,201 So... have fun. 701 00:26:42,165 --> 00:26:44,427 My neck's gonna be pinched by the end of today. 702 00:26:44,428 --> 00:26:46,213 I know, my back is fucking killing me. 703 00:26:46,430 --> 00:26:47,866 If I wasn't wearing this dress, it wouldn't be, 704 00:26:47,867 --> 00:26:49,608 but I'm like, I cannot have a sloppy boob moment. 705 00:26:49,825 --> 00:26:50,826 A malfunction? 706 00:27:00,357 --> 00:27:02,621 - I know. - Five, four, three... 707 00:27:04,013 --> 00:27:05,231 Welcome back 708 00:27:05,232 --> 00:27:07,538 to the Summer House Season 10 reunion. 709 00:27:07,713 --> 00:27:09,976 Ciara, you said that walking this season back 710 00:27:10,193 --> 00:27:12,369 has been a major mind-fuck. 711 00:27:12,587 --> 00:27:14,763 Which scenes have been the most difficult 712 00:27:14,981 --> 00:27:16,069 for you to watch? 713 00:27:21,335 --> 00:27:24,512 I think, um, the last episode. 714 00:27:24,686 --> 00:27:27,341 Um... 715 00:27:27,558 --> 00:27:28,777 Yeah, the last episode, like, when we're, like, 716 00:27:28,995 --> 00:27:32,215 all leaving the house. Um... 717 00:27:32,433 --> 00:27:33,695 I think, like, obviously, it was, like, 718 00:27:33,913 --> 00:27:35,043 such a big season. 719 00:27:35,044 --> 00:27:35,697 We had, like, such a good summer, 720 00:27:35,915 --> 00:27:38,700 and... 721 00:27:38,918 --> 00:27:40,484 It kind of felt like we were-- there was gonna be 722 00:27:40,659 --> 00:27:44,097 a major pivot and stuff, and, like... 723 00:27:44,314 --> 00:27:47,448 Yeah, it was, like, really emotional for me 724 00:27:47,666 --> 00:27:50,451 to see a scene of, like, me and Amanda saying goodbye 725 00:27:50,669 --> 00:27:53,410 to each other, and, like, me telling her, like, 726 00:27:53,628 --> 00:27:56,283 how much I love her, and how special she is, 727 00:27:56,500 --> 00:28:00,461 and, like, she's beautiful, and she's seen, and, like, 728 00:28:00,679 --> 00:28:03,116 she deserves the best. 729 00:28:04,683 --> 00:28:05,945 That kind of fucked me up a little bit. 730 00:28:06,162 --> 00:28:08,338 Um... 731 00:28:08,556 --> 00:28:10,471 Yeah, that kind of-- 732 00:28:13,256 --> 00:28:14,605 It's a bit bittersweet. 733 00:28:19,785 --> 00:28:23,223 That final weekend, um, you seemed instrumental 734 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,704 in pushing Amanda to do something about 735 00:28:25,878 --> 00:28:28,141 her relationship ending. 736 00:28:28,358 --> 00:28:29,795 Do you regret that now? 737 00:28:30,012 --> 00:28:33,059 No, because at the time, my friend was unhappy 738 00:28:33,276 --> 00:28:35,148 and I wanted her to be happy. 739 00:28:35,365 --> 00:28:38,499 And I wanted her to feel a sense of, like, relief. 740 00:28:38,717 --> 00:28:41,067 I wanted her to be able to exhale for a second. 741 00:28:41,284 --> 00:28:43,722 I wanted her to be able to think about herself 742 00:28:43,939 --> 00:28:46,725 and, like, what she wants in this life. 743 00:28:46,942 --> 00:28:49,466 That made me sad to see a woman, like, 744 00:28:49,684 --> 00:28:51,599 not believe in herself, and, like, 745 00:28:51,773 --> 00:28:53,514 not think that she was worth anything, 746 00:28:53,732 --> 00:28:56,386 or, like, not think that, you know, she was worthy 747 00:28:56,604 --> 00:28:59,259 of something so great, or that her value equated to, 748 00:28:59,476 --> 00:29:00,739 like, the man that she was dating 749 00:29:00,956 --> 00:29:03,350 or she just, like, completely obliterated 750 00:29:03,567 --> 00:29:06,092 her own dreams in order to fall in line with, like, 751 00:29:06,309 --> 00:29:08,050 a guy that she's married to. 752 00:29:08,268 --> 00:29:12,315 Like, I-I don't-- I've never seen that type of relationship 753 00:29:12,533 --> 00:29:15,144 in my life, but I've also never seen a healthy marriage 754 00:29:15,362 --> 00:29:16,971 in my life. 755 00:29:16,972 --> 00:29:19,105 I've seen a woman who, like, had to fight tooth and nail 756 00:29:19,322 --> 00:29:23,022 to support two kids, and, like, her mom passed away early 757 00:29:23,239 --> 00:29:24,719 and so she had to figure things out 758 00:29:24,893 --> 00:29:27,026 and work two and three jobs to support her kids, 759 00:29:27,243 --> 00:29:28,941 so it's like-- 760 00:29:29,158 --> 00:29:31,247 but that independence, and that-- 761 00:29:31,465 --> 00:29:34,076 and that financial freedom, and that, like-- 762 00:29:34,294 --> 00:29:35,774 that drive, and that builds-- 763 00:29:35,991 --> 00:29:39,473 like, it's worth something, and it's worth it. 764 00:29:39,690 --> 00:29:42,171 What's your response to that? 765 00:29:42,389 --> 00:29:44,695 No, I mean, I've-- 766 00:29:44,870 --> 00:29:46,393 I mean, I've been extremely a-appreciative 767 00:29:46,610 --> 00:29:48,308 of everything that Ciara has done for me 768 00:29:48,525 --> 00:29:50,484 and been there for me throughout the years. 769 00:29:50,701 --> 00:29:54,444 Like, I know that I have fucked up... 770 00:29:56,446 --> 00:29:58,709 an incredible friendship, 771 00:29:58,884 --> 00:30:01,277 and that is something that I will live with 772 00:30:01,495 --> 00:30:03,802 for the rest of my life. 773 00:30:04,019 --> 00:30:06,848 No matter what happens in this situation, 774 00:30:07,066 --> 00:30:10,156 I'm gonna-- I will walk away from this set today 775 00:30:10,373 --> 00:30:11,940 and be doing a lot of thinking 776 00:30:12,158 --> 00:30:14,073 and a lot of reflecting 777 00:30:14,290 --> 00:30:17,163 and maybe spending a lot of time 778 00:30:17,380 --> 00:30:20,514 just thinking about... me 779 00:30:20,731 --> 00:30:21,776 and what's important to me. 780 00:30:21,950 --> 00:30:26,999 But I've-- I cannot say sorry 781 00:30:27,216 --> 00:30:29,349 more to you, Ciara, like, 782 00:30:29,566 --> 00:30:31,177 until I'm blue in the face. 783 00:30:31,394 --> 00:30:35,790 I truly am sorry for what I have done. 784 00:30:35,964 --> 00:30:39,402 Truly, you do not deserve a friend like me. 785 00:30:39,620 --> 00:30:41,970 - Okay. - Is there anything she could... 786 00:30:42,188 --> 00:30:43,449 say right now? - But I don't-- 787 00:30:43,450 --> 00:30:44,754 And I don't deserve a friend like you. 788 00:30:44,755 --> 00:30:45,712 What did you think was gonna happen, though? 789 00:30:45,713 --> 00:30:46,844 - I don't know. - Like I don't-- 790 00:30:46,845 --> 00:30:48,236 That's where I'm getting really confused. 791 00:30:48,237 --> 00:30:49,455 Yeah, where was-- like, go back to my question 792 00:30:49,456 --> 00:30:50,369 about the plan. - How did you not know, 793 00:30:50,370 --> 00:30:52,851 knowing Ciara-- Knowing Ciara! 794 00:30:53,025 --> 00:30:55,462 - Yeah. - How did you not know... 795 00:30:55,679 --> 00:30:57,507 - I-- - ...what this was gonna do to this friendship? 796 00:30:57,725 --> 00:31:00,249 And you were willing to say fuck it. 797 00:31:00,467 --> 00:31:02,295 - Yeah, that's what the part-- - Living in Cloud 9-- 798 00:31:02,512 --> 00:31:04,253 Living, like, not-- - That's the part that's, like, disposable. 799 00:31:04,471 --> 00:31:05,907 I wasn't thinking it fully through. 800 00:31:07,866 --> 00:31:10,912 Jesse, what's going through your mind? 801 00:31:11,130 --> 00:31:13,349 I was hoping you wouldn't call on me. 802 00:31:13,567 --> 00:31:14,524 - Jesse needs a tissue. - Um... 803 00:31:18,746 --> 00:31:20,530 I didn't expect to get this emotional about it. 804 00:31:20,748 --> 00:31:22,793 But just, like, based off what we've heard, 805 00:31:22,968 --> 00:31:25,187 you know, I'm someone whose best friend 806 00:31:25,405 --> 00:31:28,060 has hooked up with his ex. 807 00:31:28,277 --> 00:31:30,410 And I think a lot of those e-emotions 808 00:31:30,627 --> 00:31:31,977 are coming up. 809 00:31:34,283 --> 00:31:35,850 I know what it feels like. 810 00:31:38,026 --> 00:31:40,202 Yeah, one of Jesse's friends this summer 811 00:31:40,420 --> 00:31:42,117 hooked up with an ex of his. 812 00:31:42,335 --> 00:31:43,596 Literally, that's what he said. 813 00:31:43,597 --> 00:31:44,728 - And lied about it. - And lied about it. 814 00:31:44,903 --> 00:31:45,729 It literally happened to him. 815 00:31:45,904 --> 00:31:47,253 - For months. - Right. 816 00:31:49,037 --> 00:31:51,083 And also, I feel like I'm losing a brother. 817 00:31:53,694 --> 00:31:57,350 And, uh, I mean, I hope, like, that you can somehow 818 00:31:57,567 --> 00:32:00,875 improve and prove us wrong and whatever, but... 819 00:32:01,049 --> 00:32:02,572 it doesn't look good. 820 00:32:02,790 --> 00:32:04,313 West, what's your reaction to that? 821 00:32:04,531 --> 00:32:07,577 Um, I fucking hate that. 822 00:32:07,795 --> 00:32:09,318 And obviously Jesse and I are incredibly close 823 00:32:09,536 --> 00:32:11,581 and hearing him say it doesn't look good 824 00:32:11,799 --> 00:32:14,845 is... devastating. 825 00:32:15,020 --> 00:32:16,935 I wanted to be here today and apologize 826 00:32:17,152 --> 00:32:19,589 and try to articulate well, and I-- 827 00:32:19,807 --> 00:32:22,418 Um, the friendships here matter to me 828 00:32:22,636 --> 00:32:23,593 so fucking much. 829 00:32:23,811 --> 00:32:26,509 And it sucks knowing that... 830 00:32:26,727 --> 00:32:29,773 I'm responsible for watching... 831 00:32:29,948 --> 00:32:31,645 the cracks in all of this. 832 00:32:31,862 --> 00:32:33,952 Um, no offense. 833 00:32:34,126 --> 00:32:35,692 Like, are you on, like, 834 00:32:35,910 --> 00:32:37,346 a bunch of beta blockers or what? 835 00:32:37,564 --> 00:32:41,568 Because, like, everybody's so emotional around you-- 836 00:32:41,785 --> 00:32:43,396 - Mm-hmm. - About you 837 00:32:43,613 --> 00:32:45,485 and their relationship with you, and... 838 00:32:47,748 --> 00:32:48,879 You're like this. 839 00:32:49,054 --> 00:32:50,751 I'm just curious what's going on. 840 00:32:50,969 --> 00:32:52,361 I'm talking to you. - Y-yeah, no, I know. 841 00:32:52,579 --> 00:32:55,756 Um, I'm trying to stay composed, 842 00:32:55,974 --> 00:32:57,149 uh, as much as possible. 843 00:32:57,366 --> 00:32:58,889 There's nothing-- 844 00:32:59,064 --> 00:33:01,196 Or you're-or you're just a sociopath. 845 00:33:01,414 --> 00:33:03,068 Are you on beta blockers? 846 00:33:03,285 --> 00:33:04,895 I did take beta-- I took a beta blocker. 847 00:33:05,070 --> 00:33:07,594 - Okay. - But, I mean, I don't... 848 00:33:07,811 --> 00:33:09,596 know if that's why I'm not, like, sobbing this moment. 849 00:33:09,813 --> 00:33:12,555 I-I-- this matters to me. 850 00:33:12,773 --> 00:33:16,472 I apologize if I don't read emotional enough, 851 00:33:16,690 --> 00:33:17,865 but, like, this is my friend. 852 00:33:18,039 --> 00:33:19,126 If I was sitting where Carl is, 853 00:33:19,127 --> 00:33:21,347 I would wrap my arms around him, 854 00:33:21,564 --> 00:33:24,002 um, but I don't know if that's wanted. 855 00:33:26,743 --> 00:33:28,615 Amanda, was it worth it? 856 00:33:30,182 --> 00:33:31,139 I-- 857 00:33:31,357 --> 00:33:33,620 That's an impossible question 858 00:33:33,837 --> 00:33:34,969 to answer in this moment 859 00:33:35,143 --> 00:33:38,581 because I wish I could have both. 860 00:33:38,799 --> 00:33:40,148 Even though that's not the case. 861 00:33:44,674 --> 00:33:46,981 So let me ask you very clearly, 862 00:33:47,155 --> 00:33:48,765 are you two in love? 863 00:33:58,253 --> 00:34:00,038 Let me ask you very clearly, 864 00:34:00,212 --> 00:34:01,735 are you two in love? 865 00:34:04,694 --> 00:34:05,868 Uh, we're not-- 866 00:34:05,869 --> 00:34:07,697 We are not using the word love right now. 867 00:34:07,915 --> 00:34:09,395 - It's so early. - It-It's been two months, 868 00:34:09,612 --> 00:34:11,832 three months, like, yeah. 869 00:34:12,050 --> 00:34:14,008 He told me he thinks he loves her. 870 00:34:14,182 --> 00:34:16,315 And I'm very much, like, committed 871 00:34:16,532 --> 00:34:18,795 to this relationship. 872 00:34:19,013 --> 00:34:21,755 Do you think you could be falling in love? 873 00:34:21,972 --> 00:34:24,627 That's the conversations that we've had. 874 00:34:24,845 --> 00:34:27,021 That's the reason that I've waited-- 875 00:34:27,195 --> 00:34:28,414 You can laugh at me all you want. 876 00:34:28,631 --> 00:34:30,024 Go on. 877 00:34:30,198 --> 00:34:31,982 Wait, You guys had-had those conversations, 878 00:34:32,157 --> 00:34:34,246 - Yes. - But Wes is sitting here saying, "No." 879 00:34:34,463 --> 00:34:35,420 - We haven't said it. - No, he-- 880 00:34:35,421 --> 00:34:37,466 Yeah, we're not saying it. 881 00:34:37,684 --> 00:34:39,468 Okay. 882 00:34:39,686 --> 00:34:41,034 - He's gonna embarrass you. - But you feel like that could be-- 883 00:34:41,035 --> 00:34:42,122 They're having conversations about saying it. 884 00:34:42,123 --> 00:34:43,602 It could be. You're-you're checking-- 885 00:34:43,603 --> 00:34:45,212 No, we're not having conversations about saying it. 886 00:34:45,213 --> 00:34:46,083 We're having conversations about the serious of our feelings 887 00:34:46,084 --> 00:34:48,086 and where we see this going, 888 00:34:48,260 --> 00:34:50,784 because we knew that there was so much on the line. 889 00:34:51,001 --> 00:34:52,046 So you guys are exclusive now? 890 00:34:52,220 --> 00:34:53,526 Yeah. 891 00:34:53,743 --> 00:34:55,222 - Got it. - They have to be. 892 00:34:55,223 --> 00:34:56,659 And-and you want-- and you still wanna be with him? 893 00:34:56,877 --> 00:34:59,184 Like, after all this shit, Amanda? 894 00:34:59,401 --> 00:35:00,663 Like, you-- Like, you see this behavior? 895 00:35:00,881 --> 00:35:01,751 He's hooking up with four different girls 896 00:35:01,969 --> 00:35:03,710 and your former best friend. 897 00:35:03,927 --> 00:35:05,059 That's fucking crazy. 898 00:35:05,233 --> 00:35:07,105 And I-I hear you. 899 00:35:08,845 --> 00:35:10,717 Do you think that you are able 900 00:35:10,934 --> 00:35:13,937 to give Amanda what she needs in a partner? 901 00:35:14,112 --> 00:35:16,984 I'm... committed to making the effort to do it. 902 00:35:17,158 --> 00:35:19,987 I know, again, my history does not say so. 903 00:35:20,161 --> 00:35:24,165 But I think if Amanda and I can get back to 904 00:35:24,383 --> 00:35:26,428 what our early days were, 905 00:35:26,646 --> 00:35:28,778 those are very special days and days that I-- 906 00:35:28,996 --> 00:35:30,257 Your early days? 907 00:35:30,258 --> 00:35:31,911 Like, six weeks ago? - The honeymoon phase? 908 00:35:31,912 --> 00:35:34,088 - No, I know, I'm just saying-- - Oh, my God, not this one! 909 00:35:34,262 --> 00:35:35,698 - Um, but to-- - You're like every other guy. 910 00:35:35,916 --> 00:35:37,874 - Hold on. - But to... 911 00:35:38,092 --> 00:35:40,138 Early days, like six weeks ago? 912 00:35:40,355 --> 00:35:41,530 Just, like, when this relationship 913 00:35:41,748 --> 00:35:43,706 was blossoming, and, like, we started 914 00:35:43,924 --> 00:35:45,664 to, like, feel things. - Okay. 915 00:35:45,665 --> 00:35:46,795 - That's the most fun. - It's because you're being sneaky. 916 00:35:46,796 --> 00:35:48,623 And you're infatuated with each other. 917 00:35:48,624 --> 00:35:49,885 - No, I think he means-- - You're running around, you're being sneaky. 918 00:35:49,886 --> 00:35:51,191 - I think he means when it's-- - It's exciting. 919 00:35:51,192 --> 00:35:51,279 - Yeah, it's sneaky. - I think he just means 920 00:35:52,411 --> 00:35:52,541 when it hasn't been dealing with-- 921 00:35:54,064 --> 00:35:54,152 It's the thrill of the chase because-- 922 00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:55,370 The other stuff, the other stuff. 923 00:35:56,371 --> 00:35:56,502 ...The fallout and the turmoil. 924 00:35:57,677 --> 00:35:57,807 - Correct, but I-- - That part, not-- 925 00:35:58,852 --> 00:36:00,070 - Yes. - I care a lot about... 926 00:36:00,245 --> 00:36:01,768 my friendships and people in this room, 927 00:36:01,985 --> 00:36:03,987 despite I know what-- - Lie! That's a lie. 928 00:36:04,162 --> 00:36:05,206 - Okay, hold on. - ...Everyone will say here. 929 00:36:05,424 --> 00:36:07,382 Um... - Sorry, I'm over it. 930 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:08,775 - Okay, hold on. - I-I-- 931 00:36:10,342 --> 00:36:12,082 I hope that one day, I guess probably 932 00:36:12,257 --> 00:36:13,432 all of these friendships will re-mend, 933 00:36:13,649 --> 00:36:17,740 but I do hope, um, some of them can be. 934 00:36:17,958 --> 00:36:21,048 And th-that's the main priority. 935 00:36:21,222 --> 00:36:23,311 Did you say, "Act like you like me," 936 00:36:23,529 --> 00:36:24,747 to West at the Yankees game? 937 00:36:26,314 --> 00:36:27,794 I don't-- It wasn't-- 938 00:36:28,011 --> 00:36:30,100 I think that was probably the sentence, 939 00:36:30,275 --> 00:36:31,711 but it was a longer statement. 940 00:36:31,928 --> 00:36:33,887 That was the end of it. 941 00:36:34,104 --> 00:36:35,976 I didn't just say, "Act like you like me." 942 00:36:36,194 --> 00:36:37,456 Can I--? 943 00:36:37,673 --> 00:36:38,674 - Go, Ben. - Say something. 944 00:36:38,892 --> 00:36:39,893 Ben wants to say something. 945 00:36:40,110 --> 00:36:41,589 Ben? 946 00:36:41,590 --> 00:36:45,464 Um, fr-from a perspective of-of, like, K.J. and I, 947 00:36:45,681 --> 00:36:48,249 you four boys, you know, welcomed us in with open arms, 948 00:36:48,467 --> 00:36:50,338 and we had a great summer. 949 00:36:50,556 --> 00:36:51,730 The boys were on, you know, 950 00:36:51,731 --> 00:36:52,993 we-we were bouncing off each other. 951 00:36:53,211 --> 00:36:54,777 There was quite the bromance and everything. 952 00:36:54,995 --> 00:36:56,997 - Boys summer! - Boys summer! 953 00:36:57,215 --> 00:36:58,433 Let's go! 954 00:37:05,135 --> 00:37:06,397 The boys are too hype. 955 00:37:06,398 --> 00:37:08,138 The boys are way too hype on each other. 956 00:37:08,313 --> 00:37:09,357 - They need to stop. - It's disgusting. 957 00:37:09,575 --> 00:37:10,793 It is. 958 00:37:11,011 --> 00:37:13,100 And I-I truly believe that you were 959 00:37:13,274 --> 00:37:15,276 one of-one of the boys, 960 00:37:15,494 --> 00:37:16,234 you know, you played football. 961 00:37:16,451 --> 00:37:18,017 You understand bro code. 962 00:37:18,018 --> 00:37:19,889 That was the thing that's the most kind of disappointing 963 00:37:20,107 --> 00:37:22,718 is that I-I know you know, 964 00:37:22,936 --> 00:37:24,241 that's how to roll. 965 00:37:24,242 --> 00:37:25,243 I know, like, with all you boys from home, 966 00:37:25,460 --> 00:37:27,026 there's no way you would-you would 967 00:37:27,027 --> 00:37:30,030 go near anyone's ex-girlfriends or wives or anything. 968 00:37:30,248 --> 00:37:32,685 I think what breaks my heart the most 969 00:37:32,902 --> 00:37:34,426 looking at right now is 970 00:37:34,643 --> 00:37:36,689 the-the boys literally breaking down, 971 00:37:36,906 --> 00:37:39,474 like in tears because it's-it's cut them so deep. 972 00:37:39,692 --> 00:37:41,607 And you were like-- You were the-- 973 00:37:41,824 --> 00:37:43,173 One of the leaders of the pack. 974 00:37:43,348 --> 00:37:44,522 I think that's, like, what's 975 00:37:44,523 --> 00:37:46,655 the monumental letdown of everything 976 00:37:46,873 --> 00:37:48,918 and just like kind of crushed it all 977 00:37:49,136 --> 00:37:50,571 to-to smithereens. 978 00:37:50,572 --> 00:37:53,358 And it just doesn't feel like you kinda understand 979 00:37:53,575 --> 00:37:54,881 the gravity of what's happened. 980 00:37:55,098 --> 00:37:57,231 Today, I've learned it-- 981 00:37:57,405 --> 00:37:59,059 I mean, I knew it was an-an issue, 982 00:37:59,277 --> 00:38:01,409 but I've learned today that it's-- 983 00:38:01,627 --> 00:38:03,237 What would you even said to me two months ago? 984 00:38:03,411 --> 00:38:04,804 Like, I don't even--? 985 00:38:05,021 --> 00:38:06,719 It's just such a-- 986 00:38:06,936 --> 00:38:10,288 I've just never even gone where you've gone. 987 00:38:10,462 --> 00:38:11,637 Mm-hmm. 988 00:38:11,854 --> 00:38:14,292 And it's just hard to even... 989 00:38:16,468 --> 00:38:18,165 Well, Jesse did say you were gonna come in combative. 990 00:38:18,339 --> 00:38:20,298 So today, you understand everything. 991 00:38:20,472 --> 00:38:21,646 But yesterday-- 992 00:38:21,647 --> 00:38:22,604 That I was gonna come in combative? 993 00:38:22,822 --> 00:38:24,214 - Yeah, like-- - Uh, I don't-- 994 00:38:24,389 --> 00:38:25,520 Or, like, have a defense, but, like-- 995 00:38:26,826 --> 00:38:28,393 That was just a guess. 996 00:38:28,610 --> 00:38:30,308 - Oh, no. - But, like-- 997 00:38:30,482 --> 00:38:31,526 So it took-it took today? - I know I've-I've h-- 998 00:38:31,744 --> 00:38:33,222 I've hurt people. 999 00:38:33,223 --> 00:38:35,138 I've hurt-I've hurt you. I've hurt Kyle especially. 1000 00:38:35,313 --> 00:38:36,836 And also everyone here. 1001 00:38:37,053 --> 00:38:39,055 And it fucking breaks my heart. 1002 00:38:39,273 --> 00:38:40,840 And that fucking sucks. And I'm sorry. 1003 00:38:41,057 --> 00:38:42,885 And I do think at this point, 1004 00:38:43,103 --> 00:38:46,019 people here know that friendships do matter to me, 1005 00:38:46,236 --> 00:38:49,414 but I have compromised those in... 1006 00:38:49,631 --> 00:38:50,937 more ways than one. - We don't know that anymore. 1007 00:38:51,154 --> 00:38:52,416 We don't know that anymore. - I-I understand. 1008 00:38:52,417 --> 00:38:53,592 Because we also don't know who you are. 1009 00:38:53,809 --> 00:38:55,289 Like, you're a completely different person 1010 00:38:55,463 --> 00:38:57,639 than who you, like, lead on to be, so... 1011 00:38:57,857 --> 00:38:59,946 It's like how many situationships do you need 1012 00:39:00,163 --> 00:39:01,816 to-to kind of, like... 1013 00:39:01,817 --> 00:39:02,905 get yourself off-- - To get to the center of the lollipop? 1014 00:39:03,123 --> 00:39:04,994 ...and-and feel like the man? 1015 00:39:05,212 --> 00:39:07,127 Like, how much is enough? 1016 00:39:07,345 --> 00:39:08,475 Yeah, it's a good question. And I've never-- 1017 00:39:08,476 --> 00:39:09,695 As much as-- As long as he'll gain 1018 00:39:09,912 --> 00:39:11,436 followers from each one 1019 00:39:11,653 --> 00:39:14,308 and can get something out of it. 1020 00:39:14,482 --> 00:39:16,397 Well, let's-let's take a break 1021 00:39:16,615 --> 00:39:20,314 and we'll be back to wrap this up after this. 1022 00:39:20,488 --> 00:39:22,577 Okay, make this a super quick pee break. 1023 00:39:26,886 --> 00:39:29,236 We did this for 10 hours, and I still don't feel clear. 1024 00:39:29,410 --> 00:39:30,845 I have no clarity. - No, I have zero clarity! 1025 00:39:30,846 --> 00:39:32,065 I don't understand when it happened, because-- 1026 00:39:32,282 --> 00:39:33,457 - I-I know nothing. - Because-- 1027 00:39:33,458 --> 00:39:34,763 I'm walking away, knowing less than. 1028 00:39:34,981 --> 00:39:36,417 I agree. I-I'm walking away 1029 00:39:36,635 --> 00:39:37,462 knowing less than what I came in knowing. 1030 00:39:37,679 --> 00:39:38,680 Yeah. 1031 00:39:41,988 --> 00:39:43,903 How do you feel? 1032 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:45,644 I mean, um, horrible. 1033 00:39:49,735 --> 00:39:52,390 Yeah, I don't think there's-- 1034 00:39:52,564 --> 00:39:54,043 I will say, like, I'm honestly still trying 1035 00:39:54,261 --> 00:39:55,393 to figure out how much you care, 1036 00:39:55,610 --> 00:39:57,177 because like I-- 1037 00:39:57,395 --> 00:39:59,832 He doesn't. 1038 00:40:00,049 --> 00:40:01,964 It's been one long mind-fuck over two months. 1039 00:40:02,182 --> 00:40:03,836 And then being here, I'm not gonna lie, 1040 00:40:04,053 --> 00:40:05,490 like, I didn't know how I'd even react 1041 00:40:05,707 --> 00:40:07,056 seeing the two of you together. 1042 00:40:08,493 --> 00:40:10,669 Mm-hmm. 1043 00:40:10,886 --> 00:40:12,627 Usually, like, you come into a reunion, 1044 00:40:12,845 --> 00:40:14,237 you try to shoot for resolution. 1045 00:40:14,412 --> 00:40:16,065 I knew there was not gonna be resolution today. 1046 00:40:16,283 --> 00:40:18,328 But, like, the whole, like, what's the plan question, 1047 00:40:18,503 --> 00:40:20,766 is also f-- not just for you and Amanda, 1048 00:40:20,983 --> 00:40:24,334 but everybody. - I-- yeah, I-I mean... 1049 00:40:24,509 --> 00:40:25,813 I'm not saying you have an answer 1050 00:40:25,814 --> 00:40:27,729 because it's a fucking loaded question, but... 1051 00:40:27,947 --> 00:40:29,252 I'll be right back. 1052 00:40:31,777 --> 00:40:33,648 I'm really hot. 1053 00:40:37,173 --> 00:40:38,784 Uh... 1054 00:40:55,278 --> 00:40:56,584 - We'll talk tomorrow. - I hate when our 10-year relationship 1055 00:40:56,802 --> 00:40:59,457 gets talked about as if it was 100% bad. 1056 00:40:59,674 --> 00:41:01,284 I know. I'm sorry. 1057 00:41:09,162 --> 00:41:11,991 Andy, I don't-- I haven't learned anything. 1058 00:41:12,208 --> 00:41:13,906 What are you talking about? 1059 00:41:14,123 --> 00:41:16,822 I just feel like there's not a lot of clarity. 1060 00:41:18,345 --> 00:41:19,781 - Really? - Yeah. 1061 00:41:28,007 --> 00:41:31,010 Andy, I haven't learn anything. 1062 00:41:31,227 --> 00:41:32,577 What are you talking about? 1063 00:41:32,794 --> 00:41:36,363 I just feel like there's not a lot of clarity. 1064 00:41:36,537 --> 00:41:38,800 - Really? - Yeah. 1065 00:41:39,018 --> 00:41:40,410 Should we start over? 1066 00:41:40,585 --> 00:41:42,151 I mean, kind of. 1067 00:41:42,369 --> 00:41:44,240 Okay, Lindsay, here I go. 1068 00:41:44,458 --> 00:41:46,024 I wanna see-- 1069 00:41:46,025 --> 00:41:48,114 Hey, everybody, welcome to the "Summer House" reunion. 1070 00:41:48,331 --> 00:41:49,942 I mean, I just... 1071 00:41:50,159 --> 00:41:53,423 I don't know, why did it take today 1072 00:41:53,598 --> 00:41:56,339 to, like, think through any of this? 1073 00:41:56,514 --> 00:41:58,428 Like, I don't get it. 1074 00:41:58,603 --> 00:42:02,781 I'm just so confused how such a big decision 1075 00:42:02,998 --> 00:42:05,784 at such high risk 1076 00:42:06,001 --> 00:42:08,308 and you're saying you guys weighed all these options 1077 00:42:08,526 --> 00:42:10,353 before making this decision, 1078 00:42:10,528 --> 00:42:12,442 but you didn't. 1079 00:42:12,617 --> 00:42:16,534 Because look it, all these guys are a mess. 1080 00:42:16,751 --> 00:42:18,274 And if you weighed all these decisions, 1081 00:42:18,492 --> 00:42:21,016 then surely you must have thought 1082 00:42:21,234 --> 00:42:24,106 how this would affect more than just the four of you. 1083 00:42:25,151 --> 00:42:26,413 And I'm looking at you, West, 1084 00:42:26,587 --> 00:42:29,111 because you're the manipulator here. 1085 00:42:29,329 --> 00:42:30,722 He also made the first move. 1086 00:42:30,939 --> 00:42:33,638 And, like, you just are not... 1087 00:42:33,855 --> 00:42:37,032 thinking through in a bigger picture way, 1088 00:42:37,250 --> 00:42:38,729 bird's-eye view. 1089 00:42:38,730 --> 00:42:41,515 Like, this affects the future of our friend group. 1090 00:42:41,689 --> 00:42:45,214 It affects people's livelihoods, careers. 1091 00:42:45,432 --> 00:42:47,652 And today is the day that you just... 1092 00:42:47,869 --> 00:42:50,045 thought about that? 1093 00:42:50,263 --> 00:42:52,874 It's very short sighted for a fucking hookup. 1094 00:42:54,441 --> 00:42:56,835 For a fling. 1095 00:42:57,052 --> 00:42:58,488 This entire day has been overshadowed. 1096 00:42:58,663 --> 00:43:00,142 - Yeah. - All we want to talk about 1097 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:01,753 is to get clarity. 1098 00:43:01,970 --> 00:43:03,711 And you guys came to the table with, 1099 00:43:03,929 --> 00:43:05,407 "Well, we have a lot to think about after tonight." 1100 00:43:05,408 --> 00:43:06,975 Okay, all right, I wanna-- I wanna land this plane. 1101 00:43:07,193 --> 00:43:08,454 - We'll end-end this. - Because we're gonna get-- 1102 00:43:08,455 --> 00:43:09,935 We have a hard out at 7:30. - Now, yeah. 1103 00:43:10,152 --> 00:43:11,893 I have a lot to think about. - Okay. 1104 00:43:12,111 --> 00:43:13,721 - Ten seconds. - All right. 1105 00:43:13,939 --> 00:43:16,811 Five, four, three... 1106 00:43:17,029 --> 00:43:18,944 And we are back. 1107 00:43:19,161 --> 00:43:21,729 Boy, is this group at a crossroads. 1108 00:43:21,947 --> 00:43:24,123 Kyle, what does moving forward look like for you? 1109 00:43:24,340 --> 00:43:25,646 It's clear-- I mean I've been watching you 1110 00:43:25,864 --> 00:43:27,473 during the breaks. I know-- 1111 00:43:27,474 --> 00:43:29,519 I, you know, I've been watching you when Amanda got up. 1112 00:43:29,694 --> 00:43:32,218 I mean, it's clear you still love her. 1113 00:43:32,435 --> 00:43:33,654 You care for her. 1114 00:43:33,872 --> 00:43:35,307 She's like family to you. 1115 00:43:35,308 --> 00:43:37,658 How do you, uh-- how do you navigate the future? 1116 00:43:39,529 --> 00:43:41,444 Since the split, I've had to make a big effort 1117 00:43:41,619 --> 00:43:44,447 to-to just be at peace 1118 00:43:44,622 --> 00:43:46,711 with, like, you know what? No one's gonna-- 1119 00:43:46,928 --> 00:43:49,104 No one cares about my side, and I'm just-- 1120 00:43:49,322 --> 00:43:52,412 You know, let's just focus on an amicable breakup, 1121 00:43:52,630 --> 00:43:54,719 because God forbid our friends have to choose sides. 1122 00:43:54,936 --> 00:43:56,198 The audience has to choose sides. 1123 00:43:56,416 --> 00:43:58,636 We-we'd seen friends have bad breakups. 1124 00:43:58,810 --> 00:44:00,028 And neither of us wanted that. 1125 00:44:00,246 --> 00:44:02,857 We've seen what it does to our friends. 1126 00:44:03,075 --> 00:44:06,339 And, uh... 1127 00:44:06,556 --> 00:44:09,298 It's just like... 1128 00:44:09,516 --> 00:44:12,911 I-I don't-- A-Andy, I don't know. 1129 00:44:14,086 --> 00:44:16,001 I don't know where we go from here. 1130 00:44:16,218 --> 00:44:18,307 I really, like... 1131 00:44:18,525 --> 00:44:21,615 I-I know I said on your show, I'd be ha-- 1132 00:44:21,789 --> 00:44:24,662 Whatever makes Amanda happy, I'd be happy about. 1133 00:44:24,879 --> 00:44:28,100 If you found out that it was true, 1134 00:44:28,317 --> 00:44:30,493 would you be upset? 1135 00:44:30,668 --> 00:44:32,582 Uh, it would certainly catch me by surprise 1136 00:44:32,757 --> 00:44:33,714 and feel a little reckless, 1137 00:44:33,932 --> 00:44:36,891 but if it made Amanda happy, 1138 00:44:37,109 --> 00:44:39,677 I think I just would have to vote Yay. 1139 00:44:39,894 --> 00:44:41,853 You know, candidly, this was not something 1140 00:44:42,070 --> 00:44:44,638 I-I ever thought was gonna be possible. 1141 00:44:46,771 --> 00:44:49,643 Ciara, I know that... 1142 00:44:51,384 --> 00:44:53,212 ...you've had a lot of hurt 1143 00:44:53,429 --> 00:44:55,867 and you've had a lot of anger 1144 00:44:56,084 --> 00:44:57,520 around this situation, 1145 00:44:57,695 --> 00:45:02,090 and I wonder, do you feel-- was this cathartic 1146 00:45:02,308 --> 00:45:05,790 being able to get it all out today? 1147 00:45:06,007 --> 00:45:09,228 And do you feel like you can move forward 1148 00:45:09,445 --> 00:45:11,709 in your life and-and leave this? 1149 00:45:11,883 --> 00:45:14,886 Because, I-I mean, I certainly don't see you-- 1150 00:45:15,103 --> 00:45:16,714 - No. - ...reconciling with either of these two. 1151 00:45:16,931 --> 00:45:18,193 So... - Yeah, I think 1152 00:45:18,411 --> 00:45:20,108 in, like, some ways it was cathartic. 1153 00:45:20,326 --> 00:45:23,024 It's nice to be able to move on with my life. 1154 00:45:23,242 --> 00:45:25,984 So... Yeah. 1155 00:45:29,074 --> 00:45:30,728 Well, Ciara, before we say goodbye, 1156 00:45:30,945 --> 00:45:32,337 I want to take a second to highlight 1157 00:45:32,338 --> 00:45:34,209 something incredible. You recently helped raise 1158 00:45:34,427 --> 00:45:38,518 over $160,000 1159 00:45:38,736 --> 00:45:41,608 for Girl Scout Troop 6000. 1160 00:45:41,782 --> 00:45:43,305 That is no small thing. 1161 00:45:43,523 --> 00:45:45,568 - Yeah. - That is real impact. 1162 00:45:45,743 --> 00:45:47,701 And it came about as a result of all this. 1163 00:45:47,875 --> 00:45:50,748 And after a summer, fall, winter, spring 1164 00:45:50,922 --> 00:45:52,967 full of chaos, 1165 00:45:53,185 --> 00:45:55,013 that is something worth celebrating. 1166 00:45:55,230 --> 00:45:56,754 So I want to celebrate 1167 00:45:56,928 --> 00:45:59,757 with one of Kyle's favorite treats, cookies. 1168 00:45:59,974 --> 00:46:02,107 We have Girl Scout cookies... 1169 00:46:02,324 --> 00:46:04,152 - Ooh, Thin Mints. - ...coming in. 1170 00:46:04,370 --> 00:46:05,588 I almost opened them on a break. 1171 00:46:05,763 --> 00:46:06,502 I'm glad I didn't. - Do we have Thin Mints? 1172 00:46:06,720 --> 00:46:08,243 Yes, I love it. 1173 00:46:08,461 --> 00:46:09,375 - Thin Mint, baby. - Oh, my God, this is my favorite. 1174 00:46:09,592 --> 00:46:10,811 Thank you. 1175 00:46:11,029 --> 00:46:13,205 Don't eat it yet. We're cheersing. 1176 00:46:13,422 --> 00:46:15,860 It's ironic because this was probably 1177 00:46:16,077 --> 00:46:20,212 the most fun season of "Summer House" to watch. 1178 00:46:20,429 --> 00:46:22,301 And it was probably the least fun reunion 1179 00:46:22,518 --> 00:46:24,216 we've ever done. - Uh, tenfold. 1180 00:46:24,433 --> 00:46:25,739 - Yeah. - Yeah. 1181 00:46:25,913 --> 00:46:27,741 But I hope you all feel like 1182 00:46:27,915 --> 00:46:30,265 you were able to get everything off your chest. 1183 00:46:30,483 --> 00:46:33,616 And I also just really wanna salute the newbies 1184 00:46:33,791 --> 00:46:37,272 because you all were just outstanding to watch 1185 00:46:37,490 --> 00:46:40,885 and I really thank you for your openness 1186 00:46:41,102 --> 00:46:43,888 and for sharing tonight and for coming. 1187 00:46:44,105 --> 00:46:46,847 And, uh, really appreciate it. 1188 00:46:47,065 --> 00:46:48,414 Thanks, Andy. 1189 00:46:48,631 --> 00:46:50,459 All right, for more with "Summer House", 1190 00:46:50,677 --> 00:46:52,070 click around bravotv.com. 1191 00:46:52,287 --> 00:46:53,462 Thanks, everybody. 1192 00:46:54,289 --> 00:46:55,334 Well done. - See ya. 1193 00:46:55,551 --> 00:46:57,075 Well done, Andy Cohen. 1194 00:46:57,292 --> 00:46:58,423 All right. 1195 00:46:58,424 --> 00:46:59,729 Do we need to take a group photo? 1196 00:46:59,904 --> 00:47:01,340 - Yes. - All right, everybody, 1197 00:47:01,557 --> 00:47:03,037 if you could get tight. 1198 00:47:03,255 --> 00:47:04,822 That's perfect. 1199 00:47:05,039 --> 00:47:06,780 Okay, I'm gonna step out. 1200 00:47:07,694 --> 00:47:08,737 Ready? 1201 00:47:08,738 --> 00:47:10,958 Ten of these, ready? Ten, nine... 1202 00:47:11,176 --> 00:47:13,787 eight, seven, six... 1203 00:47:13,961 --> 00:47:16,616 five, four, three... 1204 00:47:16,834 --> 00:47:18,444 two, one... 1205 00:47:22,709 --> 00:47:23,928 What did he say? 1206 00:47:24,145 --> 00:47:26,756 That you were the one obsessed with him. 1207 00:47:26,931 --> 00:47:28,541 That's such fucking bullshit. 1208 00:47:28,758 --> 00:47:30,195 This is exactly my fucking point, Amanda. 1209 00:47:32,023 --> 00:47:35,809 I just feel, like, really fucking stupid. 1210 00:47:35,983 --> 00:47:38,638 To be honest, you should feel stupid. 1211 00:47:38,856 --> 00:47:39,857 He's gotta go. 1212 00:47:40,901 --> 00:47:41,815 Do you love her? 1213 00:47:41,989 --> 00:47:43,991 Do you want full honesty, 1214 00:47:44,209 --> 00:47:46,428 even though it could be possibly hurtful today? 1215 00:47:46,646 --> 00:47:47,952 Yes. 1216 00:47:48,169 --> 00:47:50,258 I do love her, and, like, have 1217 00:47:50,476 --> 00:47:52,826 for a very, very long time. 1218 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,351 You owe some type of apology to Meija. 1219 00:47:56,569 --> 00:47:59,093 After the reunion, he texted me. 1220 00:47:59,311 --> 00:48:01,487 "You win." 1221 00:48:01,704 --> 00:48:03,184 He brought us together far too late. 1222 00:48:03,402 --> 00:48:05,621 - I mean... - Far too late.