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I have concluded the ABM Treaty
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hinders our government's
ability to develop ways
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to protect our people
from future terrorists
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or rogue state missile attacks.
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Today I have given
formal notice to Russia
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that the United States
of America
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is withdrawing from this
almost 30-year-old treaty.
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On what basis?
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The system we are contemplating
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would not undermine
Russia's deterrent
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or the principles of mutual
deterrence and strategic stability.
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The missile defense
capabilities we are developing
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are not designed to defend
against Russia,
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just as the new NATO
we are building
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is not designed
to defend against Russia.
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The Cold War is over.
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Russia is not our enemy.
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- Okay, so no rules.
- New rules.
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American rules.
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Oh, well, this is actually
what Reagan and Gorbachev
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came so close to achieving
in 1986.
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At one point, they wanted
to go all the way...
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Complete disarmament.
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Right, right.
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So stop referring to them
as partners, our partners.
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You've said that too much.
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You should wish me a...
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happy Fourth of July, being
that the, uh... an American.
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It's our independence day,
so to speak.
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So, uh, in a, in a hot war,
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is the US dominant? Yes or no?
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No.
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It would, it would be
a case of, uh,
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Russia surviving it?
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Even with the missile shields?
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This was originally proposed,
you know, by John Kennedy,
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with Nikita Khrushchev in 1963.
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- I know.
- It was a crazy time.
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Uh... Stanley Kubrick,
a filmmaker I much admire,
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made a wonderful film
called Dr. Strangelove
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How I Learned to Love the Bomb.
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Has he seen it?
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- No.
- Ah, you must see it.
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Really, it's well worth it.
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It's a classic. Because the...
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Mr. Kennedy was dealing
with the military system
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that had been growing and
growing since World War II,
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and the generals,
at that point, knew
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that the Soviet Union did not
have the capacity to match them.
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And many of them said, this is the
time to hit the Soviet Union.
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So there was a desire for a
unilateral strike against Russia.
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Kennedy said, you're crazy,
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and then as, as other situations
developed in Berlin and Cuba,
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it became more dangerous.
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♪ ♪
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Well, the United States
has become more right wing
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since the Ronald Reagan era,
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and now we have Hillary
Clinton on the left...
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Supposed left, she's the Democratic
challenger, probably will be...
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Making very aggressive statements
also against, uh, about Ukraine
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and comparing
Mr. Putin to, uh, Hitler.
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The United States has never really
had a war on its own homeland...
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- That's true.
- And to many people,
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who are very important people,
war is somewhat of a game.
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I fear that still
in the United States.
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I fear the neo...
The neoconservative element
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as being so hungry...
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to make their point, to win their
case, that it's dangerous.
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Uh, hello, D... hello, Dimitri.
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Listen, uh,
I can't hear too well.
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Do you suppose you could turn
the music down just a little?
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Oh, oh, that's much better.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Now then, Dimitri, you know how
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we've always talked
about the possibility
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of something going wrong
with the bomb.
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The bomb, Dimitri.
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The hydrogen bomb.
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Well, now, what happened is, uh,
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one of our base commanders,
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he had a sort of...
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Well, he went
a little funny in the head,
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you know,
just a little... funny.
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And, uh, he went and did
a silly thing.
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Well, I'll tell you what he did.
He ordered his planes...
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to attack your country.
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Yes, but, uh, the whole point
of the doomsday machine
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is lost...
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if you keep it a secret.
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Why didn't you tell
the world, eh?
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It was to be announced
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at the Party Congress on Monday.
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As you know,
the premier loves surprises.
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Woo-hoo! Woo-hoo!
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Woo-woo-ha!
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Woo, woo-hoo!
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Woo-hoo!
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♪ We'll meet again ♪
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♪ Don't know where,
don't know when... ♪
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A lot of this footage
was unknown at that time.
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It was, you know,
revealed in this movie.
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Thank you for indulging me.
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I thought the, uh, the Russian
premier was very good.
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He was... Dimitri.
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The concept of nuclear winter,
you know, the end of the world,
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that was the, uh,
you know, the hydrogen bomb.
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The scientists, they talked about
it in... right after the war,
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and, uh, Truman
went ahead anyway.
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I believe that.
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- At some point.
- Thank you very much. Bye.
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Okay.
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Thank you so much.
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There you go.
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Bye-bye.
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♪ ♪
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You look colorful.
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You look like... Mighty Mouse.
No, that's cool.
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Very nice.
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Yeah, we'll be, uh,
on the ice, looking at you.
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Any advice?
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But he's told
all the other hockey players
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that he's gonna score
two goals or one?
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Do they check him
as hard as they want?
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You started
playing hockey at 40?
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Three years ago.
Really? At age 50?
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That's pretty cool.
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Oh, at age 60. I'm sorry.
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I keep thinking you're 53,
instead you're 63.
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You know,
I couldn't skate before that.
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I know. I heard that.
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You fell down one time.
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You were tired.
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Twice.
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Tired in the legs, no?
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At your age? Come on.
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If he gets checked, I mean, he
could easily break a bone, right?
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What if, uh, one of the men
on either team admitted...
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In Russia... that he was gay?
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Could he keep it quiet?
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Well, you have
the propaganda law.
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Yeah.
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There's a tradition, though...
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Whatever he says,
there's a tradition...
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There is a macho tradition
in Russia,
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a pretty strong one.
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No, that's different.
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Is that true
in the military as well?
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- No restriction in the military?
- No prohibition.
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I mean, if you're taking
a shower in a submarine
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with a man
and you know he's gay,
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then do they have
a problem with that?
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Could I just point out,
even in a society
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where there's some malfunction,
there will be many orphans,
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and some of those orphans
could be adopted
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by same-sex couples?
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Gay people across Russia say there's
been a surge of intolerance,
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discrimination and violence,
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and it started around the time
Russia's parliament passed
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what's become known
as the "gay propaganda law."
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Moscow is not Sodom.
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We are here to support normal people
that want to create families.
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I hear you work out
almost every day
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or five times a week?
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- Seven days? No.
- Yes.
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That's too much.
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Swim first, then gym?
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Right. Then relax the muscles.
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Do you think when you swim?
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Do you get ideas...
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from the unconscious? Do you
find it to be meditative?
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This is for badminton or what?
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Judo master, yeah.
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- Very much. Yeah.
- Yes? Is good?
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So all your, uh, all your
energy, your aggressive energy
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comes out in judo
in the morning, or exercise?
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Does he have a trainer?
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- Well, I used to have one.
- Yeah.
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And I think I'm a master.
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Probably helps you a lot. Yeah.
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I have to raise some concerns
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that are raised
by Foreign Affairs magazine,
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which I consider like the
official government viewpoint.
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This is the Council
for Foreign Relations,
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they publish this,
and they have all these experts
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who come in and they write
on their fields in Russia.
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Some of these questions
are raised by them.
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Yeah...
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Putin's Russia, down...
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That's, that's their
point of view, yeah.
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I understand.
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This is their... This is
an official point of view,
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and therefore, it has... it is
listened to in Washington,
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and this is what
he has to deal with.
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I'm not gonna argue with that.
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Why did you... after 2001...
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Why did you acquiesce
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in the US military encroachment
across Central Asia?
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He said that they were...
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He said that they were not
gonna stay forever?
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When was the wool pulled
from his eyes?
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No, I mean, by 2007 in Munich,
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he's casting another eye
on this relationship, correct?
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What happens between 2002-03,
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he has the Iraqi invasion,
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then he has the Ukrainian
orange revolution in 2004.
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What is he thinking when the
Ukrainian revolution goes down?
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Hundreds of thousands of pro-democracy
Ukrainians in the streets
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today protested against the results
of the presidential election,
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pitting their candidate, the West-leaning
challenger Victor Yushchenko,
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against the pro-Moscow prime
minister Victor Yanukovych.
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They claim Yanukovych's
victory was rigged,
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with reports of ballot stuffing
and voter intimidation.
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In Ukraine today,
anti-government demonstrators
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finally had something
to celebrate.
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The parliament voted to disband
the government of the candidate
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who has been declared the winner of
the disputed presidential election.
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Opposition leader Victor
Yuschenko joined his supporters
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in a victory celebration
early this morning.
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With most votes counted,
the Western-leaning economist
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leads by an insurmountable
nine percentage points.
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He thanked the hundreds of thousands
who had taken to the streets
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to demand democratic change.
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Earlier, his opponent, the Soviet-style
prime minister Victor Yanukovych,
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looked defeated
but conceded nothing.
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He let that situation go, but
then somewhere between 2004
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and 2007 in Munich,
the ball moves the other way.
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Iraq's a disaster,
Afghanistan's been a disaster.
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Somewhere in there,
he changes his point of view.
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I can't wait to visit with, uh,
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my friend Vladimir Putin
in Shanghai...
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to reiterate, once again,
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that the Cold War is over,
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it's done with,
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and that there are
new threats that we face.
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Yeah, I know.
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Yeah.
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I know it.
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We know that Bush supported
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the Georgian offensive in 2008.
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Georgia is under attack
from its neighbor Russia,
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and the whole day today,
they've been bombing Georgia
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from, uh, numerous war planes,
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uh, and, uh, specifically
targeting civilian population.
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The United States
of America stands
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with the democratically
elected government of Georgia.
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Columns of Russian tanks and troops
rolled into the American-backed
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former Soviet Republic
of Georgia today.
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Georgia attacked its then breakaway
Republic of South Ossetia,
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with the aim of bringing it back
under Tbilisi's control.
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But Georgia is reported to have resumed
aerial and artillery bombardment
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of Tskhinvali, the main town
in South Ossetia.
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Hundreds of civilians
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and more than 70 peacekeepers
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were killed in
the following days.
256
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Did you take a gamble?
257
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Your government launched its own
attempt to retake South Ossetia, um,
258
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- just 24 hours ago.
- No, we didn't.
259
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- Was that unwise in retrospect?
- We didn't.
260
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We didn't.
At twenty-four a. m. last night,
261
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Russian APCs started to cross
into Georgian territory.
262
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And there we had to act.
263
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There we had
to fire back the artillery.
264
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There we had to take measures, because
it was a clear-cut case of intervention.
265
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Do you think that, uh, the US,
uh, or NATO in any way
266
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were supporting Saakashvili to do this?
Or told him to... it was okay to try?
267
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As you know,
Putin's a straightforward,
268
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pretty tough character...
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when it comes to his interests.
Well, so am I.
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And, uh, you know, we've had
some, some headbutts...
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diplomatic headbutts.
272
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Most Americans think that Russia
is certainly as bad as the US
273
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when it comes
to, uh, surveillance.
274
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As bad. That's just an assumption,
because of the old KGB.
275
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You're serious about that? I mean, you
don't think you're as good technically?
276
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I'm not talking about money.
I'm talking about technically.
277
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Yeah, that's different, though.
278
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Is Russia collecting any bulk
communication in any form?
279
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Everything is sort of targeted?
280
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We're just talking about collection,
not reading it, just collecting it.
281
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Just using all the telephone system
or using all the Internet system.
282
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Fifteen percent of
the population is Islamic,
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in Russia, that's what I'm told,
284
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and many of them are in Moscow.
285
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So, then you're telling me
286
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that there's no
bulk collection on Muslims?
287
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Yes. Have a good night, sir.
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Good night to you.
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- Spasibo.
- Thank you.
290
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- Oliver's wife.
- Nice to meet you, ma'am.
291
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Very nice to meet you,
Mr. President.
292
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- Your first time in Russia?
- Yeah, first time in Russia, yes.
293
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- Not in Saint Petersburg?
- No, no, just in Moscow.
294
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You must go now
to Saint Petersburg.
295
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- Okay. Thank you.
- Bye-bye.
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297
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298
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Um, I want to talk
about Snowden a bit?
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You said that
you're in good with Bush.
300
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And, presumably,
you were good with Obama.
301
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You were dealing
with him on Syria,
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you were dealing
with him on Iran.
303
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And then, uh, out of the blue,
304
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you give asylum
to Edward Snowden.
305
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So it's June 2013,
you get a call, I suppose.
306
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You hear that Snowden is
on the way.
307
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I'm sure you get calls
from the US, including Obama.
308
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How do you handle... How does the situation
devolve, and how do you handle it?
309
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He just disappeared?
310
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To Cuba, yeah.
311
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And then Ecuador. Yeah.
312
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While he was in the plane?
313
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Why not?
314
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Did Obama get on a phone
with you?
315
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Uh, let me ask you, I'm sure you must
have... As an ex-KGB, uh, agent...
316
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You must have hated what Snowden did
with every fiber of your being.
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Right.
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Did you agree with what he did?
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Did you think the, uh, National
Security Agency had gone too far
321
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in its eavesdropping?
322
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But he should not have whistled?
323
00:41:02,770 --> 00:41:06,860
So, he's saying that he should
not have whistle-blown,
324
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and he should've resigned, in
principle, on the principle,
325
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like Mr. Putin did
when he resigned from the KGB?
326
00:41:30,130 --> 00:41:33,800
Okay. So, uh, you do agree
that the NSA went too far?
327
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And how do you feel about Russian intelligence
activities in their surveillance?
328
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In a scene in the movie, we show
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where Snowden
discusses the heat map.
330
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Okay, so this is data collection
for the month of March,
331
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worldwide,
e-mails and Skype calls.
332
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So France, 70 million.
333
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Germany, 500 million.
334
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Brazil, two billion.
335
00:42:26,230 --> 00:42:28,520
Inside the US,
336
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3.1 billion e-mails and calls.
337
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That's not including
any of the telecom company data.
338
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,530
Okay, so what's
the collection of Russia?
339
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Russia is...
340
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1.5 billion.
341
00:42:40,370 --> 00:42:43,040
Wait. So we're collecting
twice as much in the US
342
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- as we are in Russia?
- Yeah, I figured it was a lot...
343
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- Russia is number two,
- US is number one.
344
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Well, you must be spying on the US,
because if the US is spying on you,
345
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I mean, the Americans are gonna
say, I'm sure you're spying on us.
346
00:43:15,980 --> 00:43:20,070
The Snowden affair in terms
of the US-Russia relationship
347
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seemed to turn, was a big deal
348
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,410
for the neoconservative
movement in the US.
349
00:43:25,410 --> 00:43:28,120
And the neocons seemed to focus
in on Russia once again.
350
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:32,250
It wasn't too long afterward
that the Ukraine issue came up.
351
00:43:32,250 --> 00:43:35,630
I think I would consider
Snowden a pawn in a game.
352
00:43:35,630 --> 00:43:40,090
Unless they wanted him here,
in Moscow, to embarrass.
353
00:43:46,140 --> 00:43:48,270
Really?
354
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,370
Very strong.
355
00:44:11,370 --> 00:44:12,710
Well, one thing is clear.
356
00:44:12,710 --> 00:44:15,460
I think the only place in the
world where he's... safe
357
00:44:15,460 --> 00:44:18,260
is here, in Russia.
358
00:44:22,590 --> 00:44:24,180
And there's
a great irony in this.
359
00:44:24,180 --> 00:44:25,430
In the old days,
360
00:44:25,430 --> 00:44:29,060
the Russian defectors would go
to the United States.
361
00:44:29,060 --> 00:44:31,020
This is a reversal.
362
00:44:35,190 --> 00:44:37,440
- No, I'm not saying that.
- I'm saying it's ironic.
363
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364
00:45:30,370 --> 00:45:31,950
So, uh, this is your dacha.
365
00:45:31,950 --> 00:45:35,040
Your ranch.
366
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:39,040
Official state residence.
And you come here on weekends?
367
00:45:45,130 --> 00:45:48,050
So it's about 25 minutes,
20 minutes from Moscow.
368
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:58,360
His adoption of orthodox religion
back into the Russian system,
369
00:45:58,360 --> 00:45:59,860
he's been a proponent of that.
370
00:46:02,990 --> 00:46:06,820
I understand, but there's been
a renaissance of...
371
00:46:23,340 --> 00:46:24,010
Right.
372
00:46:24,010 --> 00:46:26,300
When he comes here, does...
373
00:46:26,300 --> 00:46:29,260
Where does he, uh,
sit if he sits?
374
00:46:29,260 --> 00:46:31,810
Are there any chairs?
Does he sit down?
375
00:46:35,850 --> 00:46:37,270
So how do you...?
376
00:46:37,270 --> 00:46:39,270
The mass is while you stand.
377
00:46:39,270 --> 00:46:40,650
Aha.
378
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:43,610
I see.
379
00:46:47,450 --> 00:46:51,370
People don't pray in... uh, kneeling.
They pray standing.
380
00:46:58,290 --> 00:47:01,080
This weekend, you have guests
coming over for the weekend?
381
00:47:08,130 --> 00:47:11,050
The two daughters are married,
and they bring their husbands,
382
00:47:11,050 --> 00:47:13,310
so you meet your son-in-laws
on the weekend?
383
00:47:16,810 --> 00:47:20,310
So are you a grandfather yet?
384
00:47:20,310 --> 00:47:23,110
Do you like your grandchildren?
385
00:47:23,110 --> 00:47:26,530
So, are you a good grandfather? Do
you play with them in the garden?
386
00:47:29,990 --> 00:47:33,370
Very seldom. Do you...
387
00:47:33,370 --> 00:47:35,290
Do the son-in-laws argue
with you?
388
00:47:35,290 --> 00:47:39,250
They have different opinions?
They give you sort of gossip?
389
00:47:44,340 --> 00:47:45,340
Daughters too?
390
00:47:52,010 --> 00:47:53,100
Yeah. Yeah.
391
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:58,850
Yeah, that's amazing.
392
00:47:58,850 --> 00:48:00,560
You're a very lucky man.
393
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,020
Two good children.
394
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,360
Yeah.
395
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,240
Good. So...
396
00:48:11,240 --> 00:48:13,490
♪ ♪
397
00:48:19,500 --> 00:48:23,210
That's a beauty.
What is this, a race horse?
398
00:48:30,470 --> 00:48:31,970
Looks like a thoroughbred.
399
00:48:32,300 --> 00:48:34,470
Yeah?
400
00:48:38,060 --> 00:48:39,720
He rides them all?
401
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,440
Well, if they throw you,
these are big horses.
402
00:48:56,950 --> 00:49:00,080
Yeah. That's dangerous.
403
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,580
I must've fallen off
five, six times.
404
00:49:02,580 --> 00:49:05,130
And here's a tiny one.
405
00:49:05,130 --> 00:49:08,170
♪ ♪
406
00:49:15,930 --> 00:49:18,140
You have the largest
Muslim population in Europe.
407
00:49:22,770 --> 00:49:25,190
You've mentioned in the past
the, uh, white, uh,
408
00:49:25,190 --> 00:49:27,900
the Russian ethnic population
is diminishing.
409
00:49:31,490 --> 00:49:33,570
Right.
410
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,750
You've said several times
in the last two days, you know,
411
00:51:12,750 --> 00:51:15,050
that Russia is a democracy.
412
00:51:15,050 --> 00:51:17,050
Your critics in America,
and there are many,
413
00:51:17,050 --> 00:51:19,220
would say that Russia
is not a democracy,
414
00:51:19,220 --> 00:51:23,970
Russia is a traditional
authoritarian state...
415
00:51:24,720 --> 00:51:27,140
and that, uh, there is, uh...
416
00:51:27,140 --> 00:51:29,730
The parliament does not decide,
417
00:51:29,730 --> 00:51:31,150
does not make major decisions.
418
00:51:31,150 --> 00:51:36,610
There's limited access to, uh,
television for the opposition parties,
419
00:51:36,610 --> 00:51:40,320
that... your party
dominates the media.
420
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,070
The registration process
is difficult
421
00:51:42,070 --> 00:51:45,240
for these opposition parties,
422
00:51:45,240 --> 00:51:48,410
that there's a lack
of judicial independence,
423
00:51:48,410 --> 00:51:51,670
although that's an old problem
in Russia, I gather.
424
00:51:51,670 --> 00:51:54,420
These are the criticisms
that are often launched at you.
425
00:51:54,420 --> 00:51:58,300
I'd love you to take a chance
here and respond to that.
426
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,930
♪ ♪
427
00:54:54,270 --> 00:54:57,100
What do you think of these
candidates in the US election?
428
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:06,780
No, we want to hear
what you think.
429
00:55:06,780 --> 00:55:09,110
This is a personal thing,
uh, characters.
430
00:55:30,510 --> 00:55:32,455
- How about Bernie Sanders?
- Would you like that?
431
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,380
Yeah. I get it.
432
00:56:08,380 --> 00:56:10,220
But you didn't answer
my question about Sanders.
433
00:56:10,220 --> 00:56:11,300
Do you like him?
434
00:56:13,930 --> 00:56:15,890
Aah!
435
00:56:21,890 --> 00:56:22,890
Yeah.
436
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:58,060
But you do realize how powerful
your answer could be
437
00:56:58,060 --> 00:57:01,730
if you said suddenly
that you prefer X candidate...
438
00:57:03,060 --> 00:57:04,770
he would go like that tomorrow.
439
00:57:04,770 --> 00:57:08,110
And if you say you didn't like
Trump or something, right?
440
00:57:08,110 --> 00:57:09,400
What would happen?
He'd win, right?
441
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,240
You have that amount
of power in the US.
442
00:57:28,590 --> 00:57:31,920
Thank you, sir.
We'll see you tomorrow.
443
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:33,090
Talk about some heavier stuff.
444
00:57:33,090 --> 00:57:35,050
♪ ♪
445
00:57:35,050 --> 00:57:36,550
Thank you, sir.
446
00:57:41,220 --> 00:57:42,810
- Yes. Thanks very much.
- Bye-bye.
447
00:57:42,810 --> 00:57:45,940
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